Category Archives: Elderly

Mayo Clinic, Medicare, No longer accept new Medicare patients, Obama praised Mayo Clinic, Mayo lost $840 million last year on Medicare, Medicare Trust Fund going bankrupt

From BNET, January 4, 2010.

“Mayo Clinic Bridles at Medicare Payments”

“The Mayo Clinic, which has been praised by President Obama as an exemplar for the healthcare industry, will no longer accept new Medicare patients at a primary-care clinic in Glendale, AZ, a Phoenix suburb. While this office serves only a small portion of Mayo’s 526,000 patients in Minnesota, Arizona, and Florida, the organization says that the Glendale clinic is part of a 2-year pilot that will determine whether Mayo continues taking care of Medicare patients at other facilities. Meanwhile, the 3,000 Medicare patients who see family doctors at the Glendale office will have to pay nearly $2,000 a year out of pocket if they want to stay with their physicians.
Mayo is going in this direction because it lost $840 million last year on Medicare. Its Arizona hospital and four primary-care clinics lost $120 million. Nationwide, physicians earn about 20 percent less from Medicare than they do from private payers, but there’s no evidence that most are losing money on Medicare. In a Bloomberg article, Dr. Robert Berenson of the Urban Institute is quoted as saying that some primary-care physicians can afford to do without Medicare “because there is an unlimited demand for their services.” In areas where private health plans pay much more, Medicare looks like a poor payer, he adds.
Nevertheless, the Mayo experiment highlights the grim realities facing Medicare. Even at the current payment rates, the payroll-tax-funded Medicare Trust Fund, which covers inpatient care, is expected to go bankrupt in 2017. General tax revenues and beneficiary premiums guarantee the solvency of Medicare Part B, the outpatient program, but neither higher taxes nor the current rise in premiums is popular. Cutting doctors’ fees is not politically acceptable, either. To keep those fees stable for the next decade, the House recently passed a supplemental spending bill of nearly $200 billion, and the Senate is expected to follow suit, in return for the AMA’s support of its reform bill.”

Read more:

http://industry.bnet.com/healthcare/10001573/mayo-clinic-bridles-at-medicare-payments/

Thanks to my good friend Bill for the info.

Parker Griffith announcement, Switches parties, Griffith Republican, Griffith leaves Democrat party, Health care bill bad for doctors

Representative Parker Griffith of Alabama announces his switch from the Democrat to Republican party.

Parker Griffith did not just vote against the Health care bill and other harmful legislation, he sent a strong signal that the Democrat party is not good for this country.

From CBS News blog, December 22, 2009.

“Parker Griffith, Democratic Representative, Switches Parties to GOP”

“Rep. Parker Griffith, a freshman Democrat from Alabama, announced Tuesday that he is switching parties to become a Republican.

“I believe our nation is at a crossroads and I can no longer align myself with a party that continues to pursue legislation that is bad for our country, hurts our economy, and drives us further and further into debt,” Griffith, 67, said at a press conference at his home, according to the Associated Press.

Some aren’t surprised by Griffith’s switch. He has voted against all major Democratic initiatives this year, including the stimulus, cap and trade and health care bills.

He’s also spoken out against House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, saying that he would not vote for her to be speaker again.”

“A radiation oncologist, Griffith cited the Democrats’ health care plans as a reason for his switch. He was one of 39 Democrats to vote against the bill in the House last month.

“I want to make it perfectly clear that this bill is bad for our doctors,” he said at the press conference, according to the AP. “It’s bad for our patients. It’s bad for the young men and women who are considering going into the health care field.”

“The success of Republicans in the off-year elections last month also appears to be a reason for his decision to switch parties. Griffith told Politico then that he wanted to be called an independent Blue Dog, not a Democrat. “I should be nervous,” he added.”

“When a Member of Congress decides to leave a 258 seat majority to join a deep minority, it is a sure sign that the majority party has become completely disconnected from seniors, young workers, and families in America,” Cantor said in a statement. “We welcome Parker Griffith to the Republican Conference, and will continue to stand and fight against the damaging agenda of this Administration working in tandem with the Pelosi/Reid run Congress.”

“Parker Griffith is a dedicated public servant who has consistently put the best interests of his constituents first, and it is in that spirit that Republicans welcome him,” Boehner added. “With today’s decision, Congressman Griffith has added his voice to the growing chorus of Americans who have had it with Democrats’ wrong-headed policies and lack of leadership.””

Read more:

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/12/22/politics/politicalhotsheet/entry6009974.shtml

2009 Christmas, Message of hope, Americans helping Americans, No government required, Help those around us

I am writing this message to you as my significant other assembles Christmas packages for five elderly ladies in an assisted living facility not far from us. These ladies have no family members to care for them. This is an annual tradition at the coffee shop we frequent, the same coffee shop where I bring you so many tidings of gloom.

My lady deserves all the credit for this. She just got back from shopping and also tried to deliver an old coat for a drive for those in need of winter apparel. Just a hint for those females who bank on the best makeup, shoes and dresses. For most of us, it is still what is on the inside that matters most and she just became even lovelier.

Watching her came at a most fortuitous time for me. I had just finished reading the Ellen Goodman article about Sarah Palin and her book. Another veiled attempt to put down Sarah Palin and what is right about this country. The bane of my existence is reading about so much negativity and attacks on good people.

So, let us not forget the good in this world and that people matter. No matter what the Senate and House do, irrespective of the socialist agenda of the Obama Administration, there is good around us and a reason for us to go on and embrace what is right about this country.

God bless.

Wells

Health Care Bill passed in House, November 7, 2009, Scorecard for 2010, 220 to 215 vote, 39 Democrats voted no, 1 Republican voted yes, More tea parties, Senate may stall, Vote the Jackasses out in 2010

From Fox News, November 7, 2009.

“House Passes Health Care Bill”

“The 220-215 vote cleared the way for the Senate to begin debate on the issue that has come to overshadow all others in Congress.
In a victory for President Barack Obama, the Democratic-controlled House narrowly passed landmark health care legislation Saturday night to expand coverage to tens of millions who lack it and place tough new restrictions on the insurance industry. Republican opposition was nearly unanimous.

The 220-215 vote cleared the way for the Senate to begin a long-delayed debate on the issue that has come to overshadow all others in Congress.

A triumphant Speaker Nancy Pelosi likened the legislation to the passage of Social Security in 1935 and Medicare 30 years later — and Obama issued a statement saying, “I look forward to signing it into law by the end of the year.”

“It provides coverage for 96 percent of Americans. It offers everyone, regardless of health or income, the peace of mind that comes from knowing they will have access to affordable health care when they need it,” said Rep. John Dingell, the 83-year-old Michigan lawmaker who has introduced national health insurance in every Congress since succeeding his father in 1955.

In the run-up to a final vote, conservatives from the two political parties joined forces to impose tough new restrictions on abortion coverage in insurance policies to be sold to many individuals and small groups. They prevailed on a roll call of 240-194.

Ironically, that only solidified support for the legislation, clearing the way for conservative Democrats to vote for it.

The legislation would require most Americans to carry insurance and provide federal subsidies to those who otherwise could not afford it. Large companies would have to offer coverage to their employees. Both consumers and companies would be slapped with penalties if they defied the government’s mandates.

Insurance industry practices such as denying coverage on the basis of pre-existing medical conditions would be banned, and insurers would no longer be able to charge higher premiums on the basis of gender or medical history. In a further slap, the industry would lose its exemption from federal antitrust restrictions on price fixing and market allocation.

At its core, the measure would create a federally regulated marketplace where consumers could shop for coverage. In the bill’s most controversial provision, the government would sell insurance, although the Congressional Budget Office forecasts that premiums for it would be more expensive than for policies sold by private firms.

A cheer went up from the Democratic side of the House when the bill gained 218 votes, a majority. Moments later, Democrats counted down the final seconds of the voting period in unison, and let loose an even louder roar when Pelosi grabbed the gavel and declared, “the bill is passed.”

The bill drew the votes of 219 Democrats and Rep. Joseph Cao, a first-term Republican who holds an overwhelmingly Democratic seat in New Orleans. Opposed were 176 Republicans and 39 Democrats.

From the Senate, Majority Leader Harry Reid of Nevada issued a statement saying, “We realize the strong will for reform that exists, and we are energized that we stand closer than ever to reforming our broken health insurance system.””

“”We are going to have a complete government takeover of our health care system faster than you can say, `this is making me sick,”‘ jabbed Rep. Candice Miller, R-Mich., adding that Democrats were intent on passing “a jobs-killing, tax-hiking, deficit-exploding” bill.”

Read more:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/11/07/house-passes-health-care/

We will use this vote as a basis for our scorecard to vote the Jackasses out in 2010.

Socialist Health Care Bill, Nancy Pelosi and Congress ignore public, Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, Conclude debate and vote on Saturday, Vote the jackasses out

“We were waist deep in the Big Muddy, And the big fool said to push on.”…Pete Seeger

The arrogant Jackasses continue to push on

to ram a unpopular

Socialist

Health Care Bill

down our throats

 

From Fox News November 5, 2009

“House Poised to Debate, Vote on Health Care Reform Bill”

“President Obama’s sweeping vision of a health care overhaul will come to an historic debate and vote in the House this weekend.

Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, D-Md., said the House would conclude its historic debate and vote on Saturday.

“That would be my expectation,” he said on the House floor, responding to a query from House Minority Whip Eric Cantor, R-Va., who asked whether lawmakers would be able to leave Washington Saturday.

“It is our intent to finish the health care bill Saturday, Saturday night or Sunday morning,” he said.

Republicans will be allowed to offer their health care bill as an amendment, Hoyer said.

The Congressional Budget Office estimated that the GOP plan, while keeping premiums down and costing a mere fraction of the Democrats’ bill, would cover only 3 million more Americans. By comparison, the Democrats’ bill is projected to cover 36 million.

On Thursday, House Democratic leaders predicted swift passage of the bill and Obama declared health reform is closer to passage than ever before.

The bill received a huge boost Thursday from two major groups: The American Medical Association and the powerful seniors’ lobby AARP. AARP, with its 40 million members, promised to run ads and contact activists to gin up support.

“I urge Congress to listen to AARP, listen to the AMA, and pass this reform for hundreds of millions of Americans who will benefit from it,” Obama told reporters during an unannounced visit to the White House briefing room after the endorsements were announced.

At the other end of Pennsylvania Avenue, Democrats were listening.”

Read more:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/11/05/house-poised-debate-vote-health-care-reform/

We must fight this socialist takeover.

However, do not be troubled if the Obama thugs pass a government run health care bill.

We must change Congress anyway next year.

We will vote the jackasses out in 2010.

And then we will repeal the socialist bill.

Michele Bachmann, Thursday, November 5, 2009, Capitol Building, Health Care Bill, Socialist bill, Bachmann fights Pelosi, Michele Bachmann confronts Congress

Congresswoman Michele Bachmann appeared on the Sean Hannity Show on Fox last night, October 30, 2009. She exposed the Health Care Bill as socialist and stated that she will appear on the Capitol Building steps next Thursday, November 5, 2009 at noon to confront Congress to stop passage of this ruinous bill. Watch the interview

From ABC 5 News, October 30, 2009.

“Bachmann Fighting Against Democratic Health Care Bill”

“Many Republican members of congress are back in their districts for the weekend trying to advocate against the House’s health care plan, and that movement in Minnesota is being led by Michele Bachmann.

While House Democrats rally around a health care bill they say will cover almost all Americans and lower costs, Republican Michele Bachmann sees it much differently.

“I would prefer to see true health care reform, but unfortunately the bill that will come up next week that we will vote on is the government takeover of cradle to grave socialist health care. This is a mammoth, ugly bill that’s coming forward,” said Bachmann.”

“Bachmann calls the bill by a different name. “There will be maybe 72 hours for the general public to read the bill. And this is going to change our lives forever. This is the crown jewel of socialism,” said Bachmann.

Bachmann’s alternative revolves around a free-market approach, involving a change in the federal tax code. Each individual would own their health care, not government and not their employers.”

Read more:

http://kstp.com/news/stories/S1224447.shtml?cat=1

 

H1N1, Obama Declares National Emergency, October 24, 2009, Bill of Rights revoked?, Stafford Act, National Emergencies Act, Public Health Emergency Fund, Federal emergency authorities, Rights have been now officially suspended.

I first heard about Obama declaring a national emergency due to the H1N1 flu this morning as I was driving down the highway. I was warned many months ago that the flu was coming and that Obama would use it as an excuse to exercise more power over the American public. One of the people that warned me of this, in March of 2009, before the public awareness of a coming flu, a retired military officer, just sent me some information.

October 24, 2009,  approx 7:50 PM ET.

“Obama declares swine flu a national emergency”

“President Barack Obama declared the swine flu outbreak a national emergency and empowered his health secretary to suspend federal guidelines at hospitals and speed up how infected people might receive treatment in a disaster.

The declaration that Obama signed late Friday means Health and Human Services chief Kathleen Sebelius to bypass federal rules when opening alternative care sites, such as offsite hospital centers at schools or community centers, if needed.

Hospitals could modify patient rules — for example, requiring them to give less information during a hectic time — to quicken access to treatment, with government approval. The declaration, which the White House announced Saturday, allows HHS in some cases to let hospitals relocate emergency rooms offsite to reduce flu-related burdens and to protect noninfected patients.

Administration officials said the declaration was a pre-emptive move designed to make decisions easier when they need to be made. Officials said this was not in response to any single development on an outbreak that has lasted months and has killed more than 1,000 people in the United States.

It was the second of two steps needed to give Sebelius extraordinary powers during a crisis. On April 26, the administration declared swine flu a public health emergency, allowing the shipment of roughly 12 million doses of flu-fighting medications from a federal stockpile to states in case they eventually needed them. At the time, there were 20 confirmed cases in the U.S. of people recovering easily. There was no vaccine against swine flu, but the CDC had taken the initial step necessary for producing one.”

Read more:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091024/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_obama_swine_flu

 

“What does this mean for YOU?   It means the Federal Government has just declared its right to revoke the Bill of Rights:
 
A National Emergency, under the Stafford Act:
 
Quote:
With respect to the current outbreak, the Public Health Emergency Fund is available (but is
currently unfunded)17 and Emergency Use Authorizations have been granted by FDA.18 However,
the Secretary’s waiver and modification authority has not been activated because there is no
concurrent presidential declaration under either the Stafford Act or the National Emergencies Act.
(comment: report published in May 2009)
 
So declaring this emergency doesn’t really make more funds available.  They don’t EXIST!  So, that’s not the reason……
Quote:
A presidential declaration under the Stafford Act triggers federal emergency authorities that are
independent of the Secretary’s public health emergency authorities. Declarations under the
Stafford Act fall into two categories: emergency declarations and major disaster declarations. As
of this point in time, there have been no Stafford Act declarations pertaining to the current
influenza A(H1N1) virus outbreak. A presidential emergency declaration under the Stafford Act
authorizes the President to direct federal agencies to support state and local emergency assistance
activities; coordinate disaster relief provided by federal and non-federal organizations; provide
technical and advisory assistance to state and local governments; provide emergency assistance
through federal agencies; remove debris through grants to state and local governments; provide
assistance to individuals and households for temporary housing and uninsured personal needs;

and assist state and local governments in the distribution of medicine, food, and consumables.19
The total amount of assistance available is limited in an emergency declaration to $5 million,
“unless the President determines that there is a continuing need; Congress must be notified if the
$5 million ceiling is breached.
 
Source:  Document prepared for Congress in May, 2009:  http://assets.opencrs.com/rpts/R40560_20090506.pdf
 
Now, we’re getting down to the real reasons…..
 
Further of interest from this document:
 
Quote:
A major disaster declaration authorizes the President to offer all the assistance authorized under
an emergency declaration, and further authorizes funds for the repair and restoration of federal
facilities, unemployment assistance, emergency grants to assist low-income migrant and seasonal
farm workers, food coupons and distribution, relocation assistance, crisis counseling assistance
and training, community disaster loans, emergency communications, and emergency public
transportation.23 Additionally, the total amount of assistance provided in a major disaster
declaration is not subject to a ceiling in the same way as under an emergency declaration.
 
And here is the money quote:
 
Quote:

The Public Health Service Act and the Stafford Act contain authorities that
allow the Secretary of Health and Human Services and the President, respectively, to take certain
actions during emergencies or disasters. While the primary authority for quarantine and isolation
in the United States resides at the state level, the federal government has jurisdiction over
interstate and border quarantine. Border entry and border closing issues may arise in the context
of measures designed to keep individuals who have, or may have, influenza A(H1N1) from
crossing U.S. borders. Aliens with the H1N1 virus can be denied entry, but American citizens
cannot be excluded from the United States solely because of a communicable disease, although
they may be quarantined or isolated at the border for health reasons. Airlines have considerable
discretion to implement travel restrictions relating to the safety and/or security of flights and other
passengers and crew. In addition, the federal government has broad legal authority to regulate and
control the navigable airspace of the United States in dealing with incidents involving
communicable diseases. States have authority to initiate other emergency measures such as
mandatory vaccination orders and certain nonpharmaceutical interventions such as school
closures, which may lessen the spread of an infectious disease. The International Health
Regulations adopted by the World Health Organization in 2005 provide a framework for
international cooperation against infectious disease threats.

The use of these emergency measures to contain the influenza A(H1N1) virus outbreak may raise
a classic civil rights issue: to what extent can an individual’s liberty be curtailed to advance the
common good? The U.S. Constitution and federal civil rights laws provide for individual due
process and equal protection rights as well as a right to privacy, but these rights are balanced
against the needs of the community.
 
And there you have it, in black and white.  I make no determination as to whether H1N1A is truly the public threat they are presenting, although there have been deaths of children at a concerning rate, even here in Michigan – the fact is, the Stafford Act allows the Federal Government to strip away all your rights.  While this National Emergency is in effect, this gives the Federal Government carte blanche to use this declaration for whatever it pleases.  Rights have been now officially suspended.”
 
Stephanie S. Jasky,   Founder, Director
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Health care reform, Facts, Truth, 2010 elections, Obama lies, Government run health care, Wealth redistribution, All you need to know about health care reform

“What is 1,000 lawyers at the bottom of the ocean? A good start.”….Is this a joke? Wells

ObamaContributions

All you need to know about health care reform

 

What is the current attempt by Obama and liberal Democrats at health care reform all about?

  • Appeasing their far left core support.
  • More control over the American people to get votes.
  • Payback to trial lawyers and other big supporters (refer to contribution table above).
  • Achieving the goals of far left, socialist, communists who are controlling the party with the goal of redistribution of wealth..

Why do a high percentage of attorneys support the Democrat party? The Democrat party supports big government and that means more work for attorneys. Have you ever noticed the multitude of attorney ads on TV for representation with Social Security matters?

What will it take to really fix health care?

  • Tort reform. This has to do with medical malpractice lawsuits and insurance and the cost of litigation for doctors, hospitals and pharmaceutical companies. Trial lawyers such as John Edwards have become wealthy at the expense of the American Public. Obama and the Democratic party are controlled by their high contributor law buddies.
  • Open up health care policies across state boundaries. This is the only area the federal government should control, to allow a basic health care policy to be sold nationwide. If the states want to supplement this, the additional coverage can be taylored by state.
  • Health care policy portability. This would allow keeping the same policy when changing  jobs.
  • Provide a basic safety net policy for those currently uninsured who cannot afford insurance now. Adding these people to Medicare is one proposal.

SC Representative and patriot Joe Wilson called Barack Obama a liar when Obama addressed Congress and the American people on health care reform. Who was telling the truth?

“Media must expose Obama’s calculated lying, scare tactics”

“Media Research Center President Brent Bozell issued the following statement this morning demanding the media report President Obama’s lies, distortions and exaggerations delivered in his speech on health care reform last night:”

“Barack Obama will not stop committing serial dishonesty with the American people until the media expose his false figures and bogus exaggerations for what they are: fraudulent scare tactics.:

“Last night Obama told a litany of lies. He said the total cost of his health reform would be $900 billion over ten years, but even the government-run Congressional Budget Office found it would cost $1.6 trillion. He claimed his reform would not cover illegal immigrants or abortions, but nothing in any of the Democrat bills requires citizen verification and several organizations including the National Right to Life Committee have shown exactly how federal funds would be used to pay for abortion-on-demand. He knows these are lies and he tells them because he is confident the left wing ‘news’ media will let him get away with it. ”

 Obama health care lies

We have one of the best health care systems in the world. We just need to make some adjustments. We do not need government run health care. From one of the commenters on this blog:

“Write/Right on, Citizen Wells, we do not want govt. healthcare. My mom who came to this country from England is still alive thanks to good medical care here. Her younger sister, who stayed in England, died years ago from breast cancer that she wasn’t treated agressively for thanks to Socialized Medicine.”….maddie

The regulars on this blog may have seen the following videos. However, they provide excellent insight, from a variety of perspectives, on health care reform.

Anesthesiologist Dr. Todd Rubin on doctors demonstrating to have tort reform included in health reform.

 

Congressman Mike Rogers, Michigan

 

ABC’s John Stossel Destroys/Pulverizes/Crushes Obama’s anti-American ‘Health Care’ Plan

 

The most important message from this article:

We must change Congress next year during the 2010 elections.

This will cure a variety of  ills and injustices including repeal of a government run or ruined  health care plan.

Joe Wilson, Obama lies, SC Representative Wilson, Support Joe Wilson, YouTube video, Obama health care, Don’t back down

I do not normally link to congressmen’s fundraising efforts. I will make an exception in this case. American hero, SC Representative Joe Wilson, stood up for us when Obama lied before congress and the Nation. We asked for Joe Wilson to not back down and Representative Wilson did not back down. We need more Joe Wilsons.

“In these past weeks I have rattled the cage of liberal Democrats in Washington with my staunch opposition to their big government policies. Now, they are targeting me with everything theyve got. They are running ads in my Congressional District attacking me and are raising millions for my liberal opponent.

Despite their attacks – I will not be muzzled. I will continue to stand arm-in-arm with every patriot in America against their disastrous plot to hijack our nation’s health care system.”

“Dear friend,
In these past weeks I have rattled the cage of liberal Democrats in Washington with my staunch opposition to their big government policies. Now, they are targeting me with everything they’ve got. They have produced ads attacking me and are raising millions for my liberal opponent.
Despite their attacks – I will not be muzzled. I will continue to stand arm-in-arm with every patriot in America to ensure our voices are heard in Washington.
As you may know, Wednesday, September 30 is the end of the third-quarter for fundraising. The amount of money we raise in this quarter will be scrutinized by the liberal mainstream media and compared to that of my opponent who has raised more than a million dollars.
We have set a goal to raise $25,000 by midnight to keep up the fight against the escalating attacks from liberal Democrats and end the third-quarter strong. Will you please watch this video and donate to my campaign today to help us take back Washington?
 
I have been humbled by the support you have shown my family and me over the past few weeks. The emails, letters, Facebook messages, Tweets and comments I have received have strengthened my resolve to not back down. As the liberal Democrats in Washington continue their attacks on me, I will continue to stand with you and fight for real solutions to our nation’s problems.
But I can not do it alone.
Please, take a few minutes today to watch this video and make a donation to help us reach our goal of $25,000 to take back Washington.
Together, we will take back Washington.
Proud to stand with you,
Joe Wilson
U.S. Representative
Paid for by Joe Wilson for Congress”

Key Senate Committee Votes Against Government-Run Health Insurance Plan, September 29, 2009, Fox News, 15 to 8 vote,Five committee Democrats, including Chairman Max Baucus, joined with all 10 committee Republicans

From Fox News, September 29, 2009:

“Key Senate Committee Votes Against Government-Run Health Insurance Plan”

“The Senate Finance Committee has voted against creating a new government health insurance plan to compete with the private market.

The 15-to-8 vote could forecast the fate of the public option in the Senate as a whole. The outcome was expected but still a defeat for liberals who view government-sponsored insurance for the middle class as a key component of President Barack Obama’s health care overhaul.

Five committee Democrats, including Chairman Max Baucus, joined with all 10 committee Republicans to defeat the measure by Democratic Sen. Jay Rockefeller of West Virginia.

Opponents said a public option would drive private insurers out of business and amount to a government takeover. Proponents said it would give consumers choice and competition.”

“Democrats remain divided on the need to create a government plan — and Finance Chairman Max Baucus (D-Mont.) is already in the hot seat — accused of being lukewarm, if not downright hostile, to the public option.

Sen. Kent Conrad, D-ND, who has crafted an alternative plan that would set up a series of non-profit health care cooperatives, blasted Rockefeller’s plan, saying, “The devil is in the details.”  Conrad said if the amendment is implemented, “every major hospital goes broke.” 

“I can’t possibly support any amendment that does that,” he said. 

Congressional aides on both sides of the issue say that the public option amendments are not expected to pass out of the Finance Committee. Schumer has called the committee debate a beginning of “a conversation about the public option,” saying, “It gets people thinking.”

Sen. Jeff Bingaman, D-NM, said he could support a public option, but he disagrees with Rockefeller’s approach. “I think there is a problem with providing Medicare reimbursement rates,” Bingaman said, echoing the concerns of Conrad. 

As senators continue to spar over the public option, two liberal groups are launching a hard-hitting television and Internet ad featuring a young father from Montana. Bing Perrine, 26, who needs a heart operation and is uninsured and deeply in debt, looks straight into the camera and asks Baucus: “Whose side are you on?”

The ad is sponsored by Democracy for America and the Progressive Change Campaign Committee, which say Baucus is too cozy with insurance and health care interests that have contributed to his campaigns and oppose a government plan.”

Read more:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/09/29/senate-panel-debates-govt-run-health-plan/