Category Archives: Washington DC

Obama birth certificate forgery, Obama corruption, Vivek Kundra, Yusuf Acar, forged documents, John Brennan, Passport security breach, Long form birth certificate forgery

Obama thugs forging long form birth certificate?

“Don’t know about 9/11 conspiracy, but do know from DC source that an Administration team is working on perfecting a forgery of the long-form birth certificate. They plan on presenting it in a a month or so. The source is FBI agent who has drinking buddy from University of Illinois now in the Administration. Its second hand, but the source is supposed to be solid.

They have already prepared the forgery with special paper and ink. The document was printed on a fully functional 1960 Heidelberger printing press located at a print museum in Toronto. Access was arranged by a trustee of the museum who is connected to a large Canadian banking/investment firm with major US interests.”

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Is the above true? I have no confirmation.

Is it plausible?

Based on everything we know about Obama, et al,

Absolutely!

Consider the following (ignoring the COLB controversy).

Obama, Kundra, Yusuf Acar and forged documents
“Yesterday, the Citizen Wells blog presented a second article on
the arrest of 2 individuals in the Washington DC office
that was headed by Obama’s technology czar, Vivek Kundra, as
recently as a few days ago. This article came from a Washington
Post article dated March 13, 2009. Last night Citizen Wells
was notified that the Washington Post article had been changed.

After some investigating, it was discovered that the whole
nature of the article had been changed. Consider the
following:”
“Vivek Kundra, who was tapped as the White House technology czar
March 5, oversaw technology projects and budgets for 86 D.C.
government agencies as head of the District’s Office of the Chief
Technology Officer.”

“Yusuf Acar, 40, who has worked in the technology office since
2004, was charged with bribery, conspiracy, money laundering and
conflict of interest.”

“FBI agents carted away boxes and envelopes from the Office of
the Chief Technology Officer throughout the day.”

“Acar also told the informant that he could use computers to
create fake D.C. birth certificates, Hibarger said.”

“The scam began unraveling in March last year”

Acar forged birth certificates and the Washington Post changed their article

“A high-powered team of Los Angeles attorneys representing President Obama in his effort to keep his birth certificate, college records and passport documents concealed from the public has suggested there should be “monetary sanctions”  against a lawyer whose clients have brought a complaint alleging Obama doesn’t qualify for the Oval Office under the Constitution’s demand for a “natural born” citizen in that post.”

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“Obama’s top terrorism and intelligence adviser, John O. Brennan, heads a firm that was cited in March for breaching sensitive files in the State Department’s passport office, according to a State Department Inspector General’s report released this past July.”

“During a State Department briefing on March 21, 2008, McCormack confirmed that the contractor had accessed the passport files of presidential candidates Barack Obama, Hillary Rodham Clinton, and John McCain, and that the inspector general had launched an investigation.
Sources who tracked the investigation tell Newsmax that the main target of the breach was the Obama passport file, and that the contractor accessed the file in order to “cauterize” the records of potentially embarrassing information.”

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From Philip Berg’s lawsuit

“53. Furthermore, Obama traveled to Indonesia, Pakistan and Southern India in 1981. The relations between Pakistan and India were extremely tense and Pakistan was in turmoil and under martial law. The country was filled with Afghan refugees; and Pakistan’s Islamist-leaning Interservices Intelligence Agency (ISI) had begun to provide arms to the Afghan mujahideen and to assist the process of recruiting radicalized Muslim men–jihadists–from around the world to fight against the Soviet Union. Pakistan was so dangerous that it was on the State Department’s travel ban list for US Citizens. Non-Muslim visitors were not welcome unless sponsored by their embassy for official business. A Muslim citizen of Indonesia traveling on an Indonesian passport would have success entering Indonesia, Pakistan and India. Therefore, it is believed Obama traveled on his Indonesian passport entering the Countries. Indonesian passports require renewal every five (5) years. At the time of Obama’s travels to Indonesia, Pakistan and India, Obama was twenty (20) years old. If Obama would have been a U.S. citizen, which he was not, 8 USC §1481(a)(2) provides loss of nationality by native born citizens upon “taking an oath or making an affirmation or other formal declaration of allegiance to a foreign state…after having attained the age of eighteen years”, in violation of 8 U.S.C. §1401(a)(1). Since Lolo Soetoro legally acknowledged Obama as his son and/or adopted Obama, Obama was a “natural” citizen of Indonesia, as proven by Obama’s school record.”

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March 21, 2008 Obama’s passport information breached

Tea Parties, April 15, 2009, National tax day, Map, View tea parties across US, The real Barack Obama

The real Barack Obama blog has a nationwide map and YouTube videos of tea parties across the US on April 15, 2009, National Tax Day.

“Disappointed that you couldn’t or didn’t make it to one of the National Tax Day Tea Parties? No problem. RBO’s got ya’ covered.

You can follow the links on RBO’s National Tax Day Tea Party post and go check out the articles and pix — or you can get a feel for Tea Party fever right here in the YouTube video gallery. Sadly, this is only a sampling of all the gatherings — there are hundreds more.

Some folks marched. Some folks sang. Some folks made speeches. Some folks were interviewed. Some folks just stood on the sidewalk and held signs. Some folks got rowdy. Some folks were angry. Some stood in the rain. Some stood in the heat.

Few pro videographers in the crowds, but there are lots of great clips here — and everyone was enthusiastic — with their hearts in the right place. They all knew why they were there even if not so eloquent of speech. They showed up by the thousands, even when the local news gurus (i.e. CNN and anything affiliated with GE) said they were only a handful or a hundred or so strong.

You can bet it’ll happen again — on July 4th for sure. Any chance this is a “movement”? Judge for yourself.

BTW, if these clips don’t bring a few tears to your eyes and a lump to your throat, shame on you!”

View here:

http://therealbarackobama.wordpress.com/2009/04/16/video-gallery-rightwing-extremist-tea-parties/

Thanks to commenter Katie for the heads up.

Tea bags, Washington DC, White House, 1 million tea bags, Lafayette Park, First Amendment rights, National Park Services officials, not proper permit

From GOPUSA:

TEA BAG UPDATE: More than 1 million tea bags delivered to Washington, D.C. near White House.

Dear Concerned American Citizen,http://www.discountbookdistributors.com/teabag.aspxFox News televised the partial unloading of more than 1 million of our tea bags at Lafayette Park in Washington, D.C. near the White House this morning (note background of photo)! Unfortunately, representatives of The Patriot Depot and Reagan.org were told by National Park Services officials to reload the truck. Why? Even though the original protest permit was approved, our tea bag team was conveniently told that it was not the “proper” permit. This is an absolute outrage and a denial of our First Amendment rights, which read:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

But our tea bags are not leaving the Capitol City any time soon! We’ve just set up a towering display of more than 1 million tea bags at a new location in Washington, D.C.—the headquarters of a free market think tank, The Competitive Enterprise Institute. Your tea bags are sending a loud and clear message: Enough is Enough.

 

Here is the text:

“Fox News televised the partial unloading of more than 1 million of our tea bags at Lafayette Park in Washington, D.C. near the White House this morning (note background of photo)! Unfortunately, representatives of The Patriot Depot and Reagan.org were told by National Park Services officials to reload the truck. Why? Even though the original protest permit was approved, our tea bag team was conveniently told that it was not the “proper” permit. This is an absolute outrage and a denial of our First Amendment rights, which read:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

But our tea bags are not leaving the Capitol City any time soon! We’ve just set up a towering display of more than 1 million tea bags at a new location in Washington, D.C.—the headquarters of a free market think tank, The Competitive Enterprise Institute. Your tea bags are sending a loud and clear message: Enough is Enough.”

Bob Basso YouTube videos, Obama invites Basso to White House, False rumor, World Net Daily, Thomas Paine, Bob Basso’s videos a threat to Obama?, Basso dispels rumor

There have been rumors about Bob Basso being invited to the White House by Obama.
One source of the rumor was an article on World Net Daily.

“The man who created two phenomenally successful “We The People” YouTube videos urging Americans to stand up against Congress and reclaim their republic now – or perhaps lose it forever – reportedly has been summoned to the White House by President Obama to discuss the subject matter of the short films.

Bob Basso, who posts videos under the name funbobbasso on YouTube, has created videos in which he portrays Thomas Paine, author of the “Common Sense” pamphlet that made the case for independence during the American Revolution.

Basso, whose website offers his services as a motivational speaker, uses the YouTube presentations to condemn “non-representing representatives” and warns, “Only when they feel the almighty wrath of ‘We The People’ marching in the streets from California to New York shouting ‘We’re mad as hell and we want our country back’ will they get the message they work for you.”

He was scheduled this week to appear on the “Jerry Doyle Show” when he told the radio host that Obama had personally invited him to meet in the White House “to discuss the disturbing nature of the videos.”

According to a spokesman for Doyle’s show, at the time when Basso was supposed to be calling in for the show, he was unavailable. Basso reached the show several hours later, explaining he had been flooded by media calls and literally was unable to call out.”

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http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=92999\”>created

“On April 4th, while being interviewed in a special edition of the Chalice Show, Bob Basso, affectionately also known as Thomas Paine, corrected the false rumors that he had been invited to the White House.

The widely spread story is that Bob Basso was called to the White House following the release of the popular Thomas Paine to discuss the disturbing nature of the videos.  Read one story here

So what is the truth?  Did Bob Basso get invited to the White House?  Listen to Bob tell you in his own words! Here is a 4 minute clip in which Mr. Basso presents the facts.”

Read more and listen to Bob Basso:

http://crystalchalice.wordpress.com/

Tea Party April 15, 2009, NC taxpayer tea parties, Protest Reckless Federal Spending, Trillions of Dollars of Debt and Proposed Tax Hikes, North Carolina locations, cities

From Americans For Prosperity:

http://capwiz.com/americansforprosperity/utr/1/FNFYKGXWLK/BSKXKGYGDY/3189919426


Join Taxpayer Tea Party Protests Across North Carolina
Reckless Federal Spending, Trillions of Dollars of Debt and Proposed Tax Hikes Spark a Growing List of Tea Party Protests All Across North Carolina

Excitement is building as we get closer and closer to Tax Day on Wednesday, April 15 and not because we are anxious to file our taxes. There are literally dozens of tea party protests across the state on this date. And they don’t stop there! On the list below, you will see that the tea parties will continue after April 15, too.

Average citizens are bringing their friends, neighbors, children, and handmade signs conveying the message that, like the patriots of old, they don’t want high taxes, oppressive government or trampled freedoms. Chanting “Don’t Tread on Me” and “We, the People”, citizens hope their elected officials hear their voices.

We have been to three tremendous tea parties so far. See the photos and video coverage from Raleigh’s kickoff tea party at the Capitol on March 21, and enjoy this photo of an April 7 Wilmington tea party where hundreds of people exercised their right to assemble and protest on the Cape Fear River.

Please attend one or more of these events and help us spread the word. Our economic freedom is under attack and we must fight back. All of the events below are free and open to the public.

Events taking place on Wednesday, April 15, 2009 unless otherwise noted.

Asheville
4:30 pm
Sidewalk in front of Asheville City Hall and Buncombe County Courthouse
Non-partisan Movement to Repeal the Pork!
Email: erikafranzi@mac.com

Boone
4:00-6:00 pm
Hardees’ parking lot across from the Holmes Convocation Center
Email: info@afpnc.org

Charlotte
2:00pm – 4:00 pm
City Hall Lawn
600 E. Trade Street
Charlotte , NC
E-mail: charlottetaxdayteaparty@gmail.com
Register online here.

Currituck
11:30am – 1:00pm
Currituck Judicial Center,
2801 Caratoke Hwy.,
Currituck, NC.
Register Here

Davidson
5:30-7:30 pm
North Harbor Club, exit 30 on I-77
Email: info@afpnc.org

Eden
5:30 pm
Boat Landing
Email: info@afpnc.org

Edenton
5:00 pm
Edenton Courthouse Green ( Chowan County)

Note: The Edenton Tea Party was one of the earliest organized women’s political actions in United States history. On October 25, 1774, Mrs. Penelope Barker organized, at the home of Mrs. Elizabeth King, fifty-one women in Edenton, North Carolina. Together they formed an alliance wholeheartedly supporting the American cause against “taxation without representation.”

This event will include Revolutionary war re-enactors to celebrate the famous Edenton Tea Party. This is a once in a lifetime event to celebrate our past and protect us from a future of debt and high taxes.

Please register today here.

Read more about the history of the Edenton tea party here.

Elizabeth City
5:30pm – 7:30pm
Sidewalk in front of Pasquotank County Courthouse, 206 E. Main Street
Need info: info@afpnc.org

Fayetteville
12:00 pm
Liberty Point Resolves Marker, Corner of Bow and Person Streets
Need info: info@afpnc.org

Franklin
12:00pm – 1:00pm
Town Gazebo in Downtown Franklin
Need info: info@afpnc.org

Goldsboro
12:00 noon
City Hall in Goldsboro
Need info: info@afpnc.org

Greensboro
12:00-1:00 pm
Tea Party will be held at the Governmental Plaza in downtown Greensboro, near the Courthouse
Register Here.
Need info: info@afpnc.org

Greenville
3:00 pm
Town Commons
Need info: info@afpnc.org

Henderson
5-8:00 pm
City Hall on Rose Ave.
Need info: Tim McAlister 252.213.3701 moonlighter07@nc.rr.com

Hillsborough
5:30-6:30 pm
Historic Orange County Courthouse at 104 E. King Stree
Need info: info@afpnc.org

Kill Devil Hills
10:00 am
Wright Brothers Monument (Milepost 7.5 on US Highway 158)
Need info: info@afpnc.org

Lincolnton
11:00 am – 1:00 pm
Lincoln County Court House
Email: info@afpnc.org

Louisburg
6:30-8:30 pm
Franklin County Courthouse, Main Street
Email: info@afpnc.org

Mooresville
4:30-7:00
Post Office on Williamson Road
Need info: info@afpnc.org

Morehead City
4-6pm
Parkway Shopping Center located on Hwy 70. 4841 Arendell Street.
Register Here

Morganton
12-1:00 pm
Old Courthouse Square
Need info: info@afpnc.org

New Bern
6-8 PM
Begins at County Commissioner Building and then moves to Union Point Park
Register Here

Newton
12:00 noon
Newton Courthouse100 A South West Blvd.
Government Center on 321
http://www.meetup.com/Hickory-NC-Glenn-Beck-Meetup-Group/

Raleigh
Note: Two Raleigh Tea Parties on this date—different times and locations—attend both!
4:30-6:00 pm
Federal Courthouse. New Bern Avenue across from the Post Office. New Bern Ave. and Person St.
6:30pm – 8:30 pm
NC State Capitol at One East Edenton Street (east side-Wilmington Street side)
Register online here.

Roanoke Rapids
5:00-8:00 pm
Colliers Harley Davidson
Email: info@afpnc.org

Rockingham
4:00-9:00 pm
Post office in Rockingham, 119 W. Washington St.
Email: info@afpnc.org

Rutherfordton
5:00pm – 6:00pm
Rutherfordton County Courthouse Lawn, 229 N. Main Street
Need info: info@afpnc.org

Smithfield – [CANCELED]
2-4:00 pm
Smithfield Post Office, 201 N. 3rd Street, Smithfield 27577
Need info: idspeck@yahoo.com

Southern Pines
4:00-7:00
Post Office on Broad Street
Need Info: info@afpnc.org

Statesville
12-5:00 pm
In front of Civic Center, corner of Center St. and Front St.
Need info: info@afpnc.org
http://therealnewsradio.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=13…

Stella (Carteret County)
6:30pm
Boondocks beside the Stella bridge,
Need info: info@afpnc.org

Sylva (county seat for Jackson County)
12:00-7:00 pm
Downtown Sylva
Email: info@afpnc.org

Wilmington
5pm to 7pm
Corner of Oleander and College Road
Register Here

Winston-Salem
12 to 2pm
Winston Park on N. Marshall St in downtown Winston Salem.
Register Here

Waynesville
1:00-6:00 pm
Haywood County Courthouse
Email: info@afpnc.org

Date: Thursday, April 16

Washington
5:30-6:30 pm
Beaufort County Courthouse
Email: info@afpnc.org

Date: Friday, April 17

Asheboro
Randolph County Tea Party
12-1PM
Randolph County Republican Headquarters at 122 Sunset Ave. Asheboro, 27203 NC
Register Now

Date: Saturday, April 18

Jacksonville
5:30pm
Marina Cafe & Marina, 110 S Marine Blvd, Jacksonville, NC 28540
Register Here

 

Americans for Prosperity (AFP) is the nation’s premier grassroots organization committed to advancing every individual’s right to economic freedom and opportunity. AFP believes reducing the size and scope of government is the best safeguard to ensuring individual productivity and prosperity for all Americans. AFP educates and engages citizens in support of restraining state and federal government growth, and returning government to its constitutional limits.

For more information, visit www.americansforprosperity.org

 
 

Orly Taitz, Update, April 13, 2009, Dr. Taitz new website, Defend our Freedoms, San Antonio TX tea party, FBI, Citizens Grand Jury

I just got off the phone with Dr. Orly Taitz. We spoke for a while about her website and the recent controversy. Dr. Taitz has a new website for Defend Our Freedoms.

http://repubx.com/

Orly stated that Defend our Freedoms is her foundation and that she has been blocked from accessing her data on the previous website. She is still committed to the cause of exposing the truth about Barack Obama.

We also spoke about the US Supreme Court, Justice Scalia, Chief Justice Roberts and law clerk Danny Bickell. She and I are both concerned that Bickell is still employed at the Supreme Court after all of the shady dealings that she and other attorneys experienced from Danny Bickell.

Dr. Orly Taitz will attend the San Antonio, TX tea party and stated she will be willing to stay an extra day if enough citizens are willing to meet with the local FBI office and initiate a Citizens Grand Jury. She also stated that her expenses are very high. Every time that she travels she spends at least a thousand dollars. She is providing her services pro bono, so it is not asking too much for people to donate to the cause to help with expenses.

Dr. Orly Taitz new site:

http://repubx.com/

God bless Orly Taitz

Barack Obama, bowling, NCAA basketball teams, The Tonight Show, Obama not in Washington, Zachjonesishome blog, Congress, Pelosi, Barney Frank, Senator Dodd, Timothy Geithner, diversion, manipulation and theater

Zach, of the Zach Jones is Home blog has written another hard
hitting article exposing the antics, hypocrisy and deception
of Obama and his Democrat cronies.

“The Obama Show – Vilification, Manipulation and Distraction

(“All this has happened before, and it will happen again” – Battlestar Galactica)
I’ve heard it said that there are only a handful of archetypal stories from which all variations come. Today, in politics, this appears truer than ever before. The same motivations are at play, the same goals and agendas, the same use of vilification and manipulation, the same attachments and vulnerabilities to draw out, the same diversions, the same subordination of truth – all to be used as “legitimate” means to the obtain the politician’s goals. Regrettably, the archetypal story of almost every politician today is the quest for power.”
“Power and manipulation! We all need to let that sink in and flow over us because in our regular lives we don’t think that way. Take a moment and say to yourself the words Hollywood, nothing is as it appears, the words mean nothing, the agendas are conflicting, all may be an elaborated distraction.
Now to American Politics 2009 –
This past week a poorly choreographed political theater has been taking place in the nation’s capital. It is the best example of political Kobuki theater we’ve had this year. We’ve had Pelosi and Barney Frank shrieking and pointing mephitic fingers at everyone but themselves. Senator Dodd, who has played a pivotal role in the entire financial mess, has been first denying knowledge of any AIG bonuses, kind of admitting the bonuses, admitting he wrote the amendment that exempted AIG so they could get the bonuses, and finally saying the Obama administration asked him to do everything. Timothy Geithner saying I didn’t know anything about anything until a few days ago and now a tape surfaces clearing indicating that he knew about the AIG bonuses at least by March 3, 2009. And finally, Obama saying I didn’t know anything about the AGI bonuses – which could be true since he was quickly planning a trip out of town to appear on the Tonight Show to talk about Special Olympics and his bowling skills.
The outcome of all the drama and CYA’ing was that the Congress of the United States, led by Nancy Pelosi, passed legislation attempting to tax anyone who received an AIG bonus out of any and all money. Congress decided that they must do “something”. Nancy was yelling and screaming, hell yes we’re mad and we are not going to take it, our voters are mad and we’re going to punish AGI employees who took these Congressional authorized bonuses. Oh my. The Kobuki result so far is that the House of Representatives have passed a likely unconstitutional bill of attainder in the attempt to cover their (not reading the original bill) tracks.”
“As entertaining as people with pitchforks can be; it’s now time to consider Mr. Obama’s actions.
Where was he? Was he bowling, picking his NCAA basketball teams, appearing on The Tonight Show? Why wasn’t he in Washington? I would suggest that it is/was part of the chorography that team Obama is executing to manipulate the public and maintain the Obama illusion. They want to try to keep Obama above it all, spouting lofty words and symbolizing calm.
During the Vietnam War, Nixon went to China. During this financial crisis, Obama goes to Hollywood and back to the campaign trail. It’s all diversion, manipulation and theater.”

 

Read more:

http://zachjonesishome.wordpress.com/2009/03/21/obama-vilification-manipulation-distraction-battlestar-galactica-aig-pelosi-harry-reid-barney-frank-birth-certificate-larry-sinclair-the-bopac-report/

Obama, Blagojevich, Photos, Obama endorsed Blagojevich, Obama senate seat, Chicago corruption, Blagojevich criminal complaint, Obama should be indicted, Blagojevich indictment

I received this in an email sent from a nice lady, part
of the “Greatest Generation.” I have seen the photos of
Blagojevich and Obama before, but they are worthy of
presenting again, lest we forget.

The world according to Chicago
To understand the next 4 years,  you have to understand the world according to Chicago .  While it is a city in Illinois , it is also a completely different country,  with a whole different set of morals and language.  There are only three rules which anybody can understand.  You don’t even need an attorney to understand them and if you need an attorney, well … . . you know too much… so look out for Rule #3!
 
RULE #1….No matter what you see, hear, or do, you don’t know anybody and you don’t know nothing!
RULE #2…If you capture something on tape or camera, it doesn’t reveal nothing!
RULE #3…If you know what everybody knows in Chicago , well, . … . you still don’t know nothing.
 
Now pay close attention!  We don’t want to have to say this more than once.   It’s very simple . . . we’ll illustrate.  Remember, you know nothing.
 
 
These two? They don’t know each other! They said they didn’t.

blago1

 

The fellas in the foreground of this picture? Well, what fellas?  We don’t see nothing!

blago2

 

The guy on the left?  For all you know he’s Santa Claus.  And the guy on the right . . …well, he’s the Easter Bunny!  That’s all you need to know.

   

blago3

 

Go to your eye doctor…your eyes are lying to you!  Ca’pish? 

Blagojevich Corruption Probe

 

Remember Jimmy Hoffa!  He knew too much and now, well, now no one knows where he is. Is the big picture clear?  Not these pictures! Remember, You’ve already forgot them…
 

Now, ain’t that simple? They don’t know each other, ’cause they said so! and neither do we!
And don’t forget it!

blago5

John Coale, Sarah Palin, Greta Van Susteren, Washington Post article, Coale endorsed John McCain, Palin’s political image, Alaska Governor Sarah Palin

John Coale, the husband of Greta Van Susteren, is guiding the
political future of Alaska Governor Sarah Palin. From the
Washington Post, March 17, 2009:

“So, who are the figures charged with guiding Palin’s political image in Washington? Here’s the lineup based on our conversations with informed strategists.

• John Coale: Coale, a well-known Washington lawyer and the husband of Fox News Channel’s Greta Van Susteren, drew national media attention when he endorsed Sen. John McCain’s presidential bid in protest of the way in which Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, who he backed in the primary, was treated. Coale, in an interview with the Fix, described himself simply as a “friend” of the Alaska governor but acknowledged that he suggested she start a leadership PAC and helped her navigate through some of the questions surrounding her family that lingered after the campaign. Others familiar with Palin’s political team insist that Coale has far more power than he is letting on — essentially helping to run Sarah PAC. Coale demurred on that front, noting only that he talks to Palin regularly and that she is a “fascinating person” who is “definitely not what the right thinks or the left thinks.””

Read more:

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/thefix/2009/03/palins_team.html

Natural Born Citizen, Leo Donofrio, Vattel, Obama not natural born citizen, Ron Paul, Citizen Wells, US Constitution, Founding fathers, Marbury vs Madison, Citizens, Natives, Natural born citizen video

I received the following email request on December 26, 2008:

“XXXXX XXXXXX of TX has today gotten off the phone with Ron Paul.
Her parents live in the same city as RP.
 
Bad news.  He does NOT intend at this time to stand up on Jan
8th.  Part of the reason XXXXX mentioned was that RP said no
one knew the definition by either the law cases and Constitution
itself as to the real menaing of natural born.

Citizen Wells, I immediately thought of all your great research
on natural born that you’ve posted on our website.  Its too much
to expect RP or any Congress critter to read it all BUT…
Here’s you assignment.  Condense into no more than 3 pages with
full legal references on as many pages as needed.  The more the
RELEVANT references the better.   Can we have this done by Dec 28th?
 
I also ask that XXXXX, XXX and you coordinate the naturing of Ron
Paul.  Your goal is to get him to agree to file the written
objection NLT Jan 3rd.
 
Are you’ll up to that challenge?  If Ron Paul does sign on, he
will bring other Constitutionalists along in both the Senate and
House.”

Obviously Ron Paul is not paying attention.

I spent most of my time trying to debunk what I believed
about natural born citizen and after much reading posted
the following on the Citizen Wells blog on December 28,
2008:

Natural born citizen explained

Dean Haskins used this information to
produce this excellent video:

Exactly What IS a Natural Born Citizen?

Leo Donofrio has posted his most recent opinion about natural
born citizen and the influence of Vattel on the founding
fathers. Thanks to Phil at the Right Side of Life website
for the heads up.

“ONE FINAL POINT ABOUT THE NATURAL BORN CITIZEN CLAUSE.

The more I read Vattel (pictured above), specifically the passage which defines “natural-born citizen”, the more convinced I become that the framers understood Vattel much better than we have on this issue.  I now am firmly convinced that the framers relied on Vattel’s definition when they included the natural born citizen clause in Article 2 Section 1 Clause 5.

Yesterday, I had a revelation as to what Vattel meant and what the framers intended “natural born citizen” to mean in the Constitution.  It’s obvious that the framers drew a distinction between the meaning of “citizen” and the meaning of “natural born citizen”.  A “citizen” can be Senator or Representative, but in order to be President one must be a natural born citizen.

It’s the difference between a fact and a legal status.

Whether you are a natural born citizen is a fact of nature which can’t be waived or renounced, but your actual legal citizenship can be renounced.  The difference is subtle, but so very important.  “Natural born citizen” is not a different form of “citizenship”.  It is a manner of acquiring citizenship.  And while natural born citizens may end their legal tie to the country by renouncing citizenship, they will always have been naturally born into that nation as a citizen.

Let’s take a look at Vattel’s famous text:

§ 212. Citizens and natives.

The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens.

Two different sentences.  Two different civil groups are being discussed.

Examine the subject heading given by Vattel, “Natives and Citizens”.  Two separate groups of the civil society are addressed in the heading. And here is the start of the greatest proof that the framers relied on Vattel as to the natural born citizen clause.

In the passage above, the first sentence defines who the “citizens” of a civil society are.  Vattel states; “The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages.”

In the very next sentence he describes a different set of people wherein he states,  “The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens.”

There are natives and citizens, just as the header says.   All citizens are members of the civil society, but not all citizens are natives or natural-born citizens.  A native can’t renounce his “nativeness”.  He’s a native forever.  He might renounce the citizenship he gained through being a native, but he can’t renounce the FACT of his birth as a native.

Vattel equates natives with natural-born citizens.  They are the same.  According to Vattel, in order to be a native, one must be born of the soil and the blood of two citizen parents.

He goes on as follows:

“As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights…I say, that, in order to be of the country, it is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; for, if he is born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country.

Some have argued that this passage indicates only one parent – the father – is necessary for one to be a natural born citizen.  That is false. The above passage only mentions the word “citizen”.  It says the children of the father are “citizens”, but it does not say they are “natives or natural-born citizens”.  Vattel is discussing the legality of citizenship, not the fact of one’s birth as being native.

When Vattel wrote this in 1758, he wasn’t arguing for its inclusion in a future US Constitution as a qualification for being President.  But the framers did read his work.  And when it came to choosing the President, they wanted a “natural-born citizen”, not just a citizen.  That is clear in the Constitution.  Vattel doesn’t say that “natives or natural-born citizens” have any special legal rights over “citizens”.  He simply described a phenomenon of nature, that the citizenship of those who are born on the soil to citizen parents (plural) is a “natural-born citizen”.

Citizen = legal status

Native or natural-born citizen = fact of birth which bestows citizenship.

Vattel also wrote:

“The country of the fathers is therefore that of the children; and these become true citizens merely by their tacit consent. We shall soon see whether, on their coming to the years of discretion, they may renounce their right, and what they owe to the society in which they were born.

Once again, he does not mention natives or natural-born citizens in this passage, just citizens.  Furthermore, he states that the citizens may renounce their citizenship when they come of legal age.  But nobody can renounce a fact of birth.  The fact is true or it is not true. You’re either “born” a natural-born citizen or you are not.  The legal citizenship which attaches to this fact of birth may be renounced, but the fact will be with you forever.

And it is that fact of birth the framers sought to guarantee for each President of the United States.  The framers ruled that the commander in chief be a natural born citizen.  Like Vattel, the framers purposely distinguished between “citizens” and “natural born citizens”.  And to that distinction there can only be one effect:

ONLY A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN CAN BE PRESIDENT.

According to Chief Justice Marshall’s opinion in Marbury v. Madison, the 14th amendment cannot make the natural born citizen clause from Article 2 Section 1 superfluous.  If being born as a 14th Amendment citizen was enough to be President, then the natural born citizen clause would have no effect.  According to Marshall, that argument is inadimissible.

President Obama is not a natural born citizen of the United States whethe he was born in Hawaii or not.

FAREWELL.

I am not going to protest any longer.  As a Christian, I’m somewhat convinced this nation has been judged by the almighty and his fury may be descending as we speak.  Such fury appears to be in the form of Constitutional cancer.  I have prayed over my continuing role in this battle and the answer to those prayers said I am done here.  As a true believer in the Lord Jesus Christ, I place my faith not in any organized religion but in the words of the lamb and the voice of God.  Peace be with you.

Leo C. Donofrio

03.18.2009″

 

Read more:

http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/2009/03/18/two-minute-warning-vattel-decoded/

 

I respectfully disagree with Leo Donofrio on one important aspect.
Barack Obama is not president under the US Constitution. No amount
of swearing in makes one president. Only a combination of the
election process and being qualified under the US Constitution makes
one president.