Obama birth certificate forgery, Obama corruption, Vivek Kundra, Yusuf Acar, forged documents, John Brennan, Passport security breach, Long form birth certificate forgery

Obama thugs forging long form birth certificate?

“Don’t know about 9/11 conspiracy, but do know from DC source that an Administration team is working on perfecting a forgery of the long-form birth certificate. They plan on presenting it in a a month or so. The source is FBI agent who has drinking buddy from University of Illinois now in the Administration. Its second hand, but the source is supposed to be solid.

They have already prepared the forgery with special paper and ink. The document was printed on a fully functional 1960 Heidelberger printing press located at a print museum in Toronto. Access was arranged by a trustee of the museum who is connected to a large Canadian banking/investment firm with major US interests.”

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Is the above true? I have no confirmation.

Is it plausible?

Based on everything we know about Obama, et al,


Consider the following (ignoring the COLB controversy).

Obama, Kundra, Yusuf Acar and forged documents
“Yesterday, the Citizen Wells blog presented a second article on
the arrest of 2 individuals in the Washington DC office
that was headed by Obama’s technology czar, Vivek Kundra, as
recently as a few days ago. This article came from a Washington
Post article dated March 13, 2009. Last night Citizen Wells
was notified that the Washington Post article had been changed.

After some investigating, it was discovered that the whole
nature of the article had been changed. Consider the
“Vivek Kundra, who was tapped as the White House technology czar
March 5, oversaw technology projects and budgets for 86 D.C.
government agencies as head of the District’s Office of the Chief
Technology Officer.”

“Yusuf Acar, 40, who has worked in the technology office since
2004, was charged with bribery, conspiracy, money laundering and
conflict of interest.”

“FBI agents carted away boxes and envelopes from the Office of
the Chief Technology Officer throughout the day.”

“Acar also told the informant that he could use computers to
create fake D.C. birth certificates, Hibarger said.”

“The scam began unraveling in March last year”

Acar forged birth certificates and the Washington Post changed their article

“A high-powered team of Los Angeles attorneys representing President Obama in his effort to keep his birth certificate, college records and passport documents concealed from the public has suggested there should be “monetary sanctions”  against a lawyer whose clients have brought a complaint alleging Obama doesn’t qualify for the Oval Office under the Constitution’s demand for a “natural born” citizen in that post.”

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“Obama’s top terrorism and intelligence adviser, John O. Brennan, heads a firm that was cited in March for breaching sensitive files in the State Department’s passport office, according to a State Department Inspector General’s report released this past July.”

“During a State Department briefing on March 21, 2008, McCormack confirmed that the contractor had accessed the passport files of presidential candidates Barack Obama, Hillary Rodham Clinton, and John McCain, and that the inspector general had launched an investigation.
Sources who tracked the investigation tell Newsmax that the main target of the breach was the Obama passport file, and that the contractor accessed the file in order to “cauterize” the records of potentially embarrassing information.”

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From Philip Berg’s lawsuit

“53. Furthermore, Obama traveled to Indonesia, Pakistan and Southern India in 1981. The relations between Pakistan and India were extremely tense and Pakistan was in turmoil and under martial law. The country was filled with Afghan refugees; and Pakistan’s Islamist-leaning Interservices Intelligence Agency (ISI) had begun to provide arms to the Afghan mujahideen and to assist the process of recruiting radicalized Muslim men–jihadists–from around the world to fight against the Soviet Union. Pakistan was so dangerous that it was on the State Department’s travel ban list for US Citizens. Non-Muslim visitors were not welcome unless sponsored by their embassy for official business. A Muslim citizen of Indonesia traveling on an Indonesian passport would have success entering Indonesia, Pakistan and India. Therefore, it is believed Obama traveled on his Indonesian passport entering the Countries. Indonesian passports require renewal every five (5) years. At the time of Obama’s travels to Indonesia, Pakistan and India, Obama was twenty (20) years old. If Obama would have been a U.S. citizen, which he was not, 8 USC §1481(a)(2) provides loss of nationality by native born citizens upon “taking an oath or making an affirmation or other formal declaration of allegiance to a foreign state…after having attained the age of eighteen years”, in violation of 8 U.S.C. §1401(a)(1). Since Lolo Soetoro legally acknowledged Obama as his son and/or adopted Obama, Obama was a “natural” citizen of Indonesia, as proven by Obama’s school record.”

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March 21, 2008 Obama’s passport information breached


775 responses to “Obama birth certificate forgery, Obama corruption, Vivek Kundra, Yusuf Acar, forged documents, John Brennan, Passport security breach, Long form birth certificate forgery

  1. truthbetold11

    I somehow think some where,some how,some place, some time that the real one will imerge from some reliable source who has been doing there duty to protect the usa, timing in life as you know is everything and this must be released at the right time!

  2. Pollen in paper, ink source, print machine, fingerprints on paper, etc, etc, etc, etc…..better to stick with the COLB and claim Dunham was mother (??) and Obama was father (??) and Hawaii birth place (??). What a web! We should all send our taxes to an escrow account…only to be released upon confirmation of Obama’s birth certificate and dissolution of the Federal Reserve.

  3. Having operated a lithographic commercial printing company for nearly 40 years of my life, without bragging I can say that I have learned a lot about papermaking, the various types of paper,and the different substances used in papermaking. Regarding the alleged perpetration to manufacture another counterfeit birth certificate it would seem that they looked stupid enough after the first one. Now like common criminals they think that they are smarter now, and everybody will be fooled. I have some news for the OBOT idiot,GOON SQUAD.You will not fool me. Until you have spent nearly 40 years in ALL phases of printing, learned about the various paper pulp constants,beating,blending, calendaring, and yes even aging, you will FAIL . There is certain chemicals which paper absorbs at a certain rate over a period of years. Trained paper aging anaylists can often tell the age of paper even without special equipment. Anyone who believes that he can age new paper, by applying ultraviolet light and dampness variations, is a nitwit, and will FAIL. There is several other well known components of paper aging which I will not relate to, after all I have saved the most damning information for another day.Simple tests will reveal the truth quickly. This is all only one aspect of counterfeiting of documents. There is also the consideration whether the original was produced by letterpress, or on an offset press. I know exactly how to tell the difference. As do millions of other experienced commercial printers. If all else fails to prove the probability of counterfeiting of a document, you then simply seek out the exact same document from another source in the same geographical area. Then the paper analyst compares the acidity, oxidation, and the amount of a certain atmospheric element which penetrates paper at KNOWN rates,then by measuring the depth of penetration it is possible to tell the age of the paper in question. In short Obamas nitwit goon squad had better remain doing what they do best,which is INTIMIDATE,HARRASS,STEAL,LIE, BEAT ON PEOPLE, and possibly KILL PEOPLE. (Lt. Harris) perhaps! While you can synthetically make paper LOOK much older, unless you have a lifetime in papermaking it is IMPOSSIBLE TO AGE PAPER SYNTHETICALLY,and have it bear the same chemical signature found in the real thing. People who try this sort of thing are like dogs chasing their tail.
    If an ALLEGED certified copy of Soetoro’s VAULT COLB should suddenly appear, after all the money that was spent to keep it hidden,I would tend to be extremely suspicious of it. I would require that a leading testing laboratory be consulted to verify the age of the paper. If that is suspect then it should be compared to aanother vault COLB of the same age, and issued by the same entity. If the chemical signature differs radicall, one of them is a phoney on new paper, which somebody tried to make look older. In short, a FORGERY. There is a lot more involved in this and any nationally recognised testing laboratory can READILY identify the phony VAULT COLB. It seems as though the Obama CRAZIES think that there is nobody else on earth who has any intelligence,and therefore everybody will believe their BULLSWH##. I can only say that it is obvious that they are really FULL OF IT! Apparently they are picking their noses too much. They have ingested too manyof their BOOGERS. What else should we expect from an OBOT?

  4. I think that if the Obama GOON squad attempts to pass off a phoney COLB. Obama himself should be required to sign an affidavit guaranteeing the authenticity of the document, under penalty of fraud against the American people. He would be in violation of his oath of office and could be impeached, or removed from office under the 20th amsndment. He could be forcefully removed if he is determined to be an invalid president.

  5. Who Is Gutsy Enough To Do This ? ?

    If Obama worms are so certain their power was honestly obtained and their policies are totally accepted by the American public, then why did they respond to the tea party the way they did?

    Ahah! Me thinks they protest too loud? Often guilt and fear speak to us in strange ways. Maybe behind dead fish Rahm Emanuel’s suave façade, Roberts Gibbs word games of wit, Nancy Pelosi’s giddy power intoxication, Obama’s glittering bravado are a nest of knowingly very guilty American traitors whose major fear is –What if the public should discover them as they really are? They act as if they must grab all the power they need before “We the People” and the Tea party protestors stop them. They are in a race to see who gets there first! Their reactions to the Tea Party April 15, 2009 were unprofessional, disgraceful, and embarrassing. These Obots did not react from a position of strength or honor but from a position of fear and weakness.

    The knowledge we just gained about them as a result of your tea parties will now become a major tool in our tool chest that will lead us to victory and their defeat. We’ve got them now. We can push them right out of office— if you have the courage to take the next step. I know what must be done next.

    Timing is everything. There is only a short window of time before they will succeed in crushing all movement. That is why we must immediately begin the next rally. This rally must go directly to Obama’s political jugular vein and sever it now. That is the one issue MSM and Fox News never mentions. It is the one issue Congress has failed to resolve. It is the one issue that is causing more civil distrust. It is Obama’s Achilles heal. We must hit fast and hard on this issue until he either proves he is eligible or steps down.

    The Revolution has begun. We must be bold and loud and listen to: DC attorney Margaret Calhoun Hemenway who said;

    “Since I had been in the Department of State and served in Moscow for two years, I am mindful of an expression used by the Russians: “Nada dakazat’ kulak!” (You must show them your fist!)”

    The next rally should be a birthday party by no later than May 15, 2009. . Since Obama never produced his birth certificate, then we really don’t know when it is his birth day. So a birth day party on the wrong date is more than appropriate.

    Call it a very happy UN birthday party and demand Obama produce his birth certificate. We can send birth day candles and light candles. We can eat cake and send cake
    This isn’t only Obama’s fault. This is the fault of every Congress person and elected official who consistently refused to demand Obama prove his presidential eligibility prior to election, and after election. This is a clear breach of their fiduciary duty to their constituents, a violation of oath they swore to uphold the Constitution, and flagrant act of treason.

    This is why we must simultaneously, organize Obama’s unbirthday party, and a organize state by state a humongous demand that Congress, Senate, Assembly, and whoever– hear our request that Obama’s proof of eligibility records come forward by May 15, 2009 or resign by May 15, 2009. Failure by our elected officials to do either will result in a mass impeachment movement. Write, e-mail, postal mail, and post signs if need be. Do it to the elected officials of each state. Also prepare in advance an impeachment petition and/or any other document necessary to impeach every one of the state’s elected officials.


    Hold an Obama Birthday Party Rally ASAP (May 1, 2009)
    Demand he produce his birth certificate
    Demand elected officials of each state demand Obama produce his BC
    Give elected officials an ultimatum—Do what the people request of resign
    (No more wimpy, begging, pleading, and humble when dealing with our employees—shake our constitutional fist in their arrogant faces)
    Put the pressure on them by giving them a time frame between now and May 15, 2009
    States elected officials fail to complete our request—begin impeachment proceedings on them no later than May 15, 2009.

    In support of this revolution, USApatriots-shout is giving away free copies of the US Constitution to each person who asks for one. The goal is for every American to carry his own pocket copy of the US Constitution-whether or not he/she reads it or understands it. It is a first step in defeating Obama people ignorance. Go to http://www.usapatriot-shout.blogspot.com

  6. I think that it is about time that some really cagy person put together a covert breakin of a building in Hawaii. They would PHOTOGRAPH close upboth sides of OBAMA”S VAULT COLB. Photographs are as good as gold.


  7. Therese Daniels……………
    Your idea is great, but there is a stumbling block!Should he produce the second forged birth document you will all be stopped. But not permanently. A nationally recognised testing lab can determine the phoney document almost immediately. If that should occur and the COLB that he has said is authentic is proven to be phoney, you can add another charge of fraud against the American people. This time I am certain that he will have violated his oath of office and can then either be impeached, or if he is determined to be a usurper, can be FORCEFULLY REMOVED FROM OFFICE IF NECESSARY.

  8. Oldsalt,

    Either way it works!

    Have you noticed and increasing number of Americans growing more angry and frustrated with this government’s shanigans?

  9. I guess that explains why Obozo needed an extension for the Kerchner v Obama lawsuit, because they need more time to make a new forged birth certificate. This is getting very ridiculous. Obviously, he is not eligible and he knows it. I hope that if he does turn in another forgery, he gets in trouble for it and would be a cause for his removal. I am tired of him thinking that we people are too stupid to figure out his forgeries. Anyway, it’s not only his birth certificate that is in question, but also the fact he was adopted in Indonesia and lost whatever US citizenship he may have had.

  10. In reading about the passport office breakin it occurs to me that the reason for the illegal access to Obama’s file was for the purpose of PURGING all information relating to the Indonesian passport that Omama allegedly travelleled to Pakistan while using. I think that the rest of the breakins were nothing more than added fuzz designed to make it all APPEAR LIKE THE WORK of an outsider. It was SPECIFICALLY designed to eliminate the evidence of Obama having held the Indonesian passport, and perhaps an illegally obtained US passport. He would have had to use the INDONESIAN passport, because the US was oficially not issuing any for travel to Pakistan.

  11. I hate to admit it but the American people are up against a MASTER LIAR,AND DECEPTIONIST. It will probably require the efforts of ALL Americans jointly to bring him down. I am not convinced that anyone specific thing will do it.As was the case in Watergate it wasn’t until it was inexorably clear to him that he was HAD, did Richard Nixon finally resign.

  12. “I think that it is about time that some really cagy person put together a covert breakin of a building in Hawaii. They would PHOTOGRAPH close upboth sides of OBAMA”S VAULT COLB. Photographs are as good as gold.”

    I’ve been hoping that for a long time now. I’m not a lawless person, though, but I don’t see a reason why that shouldn’t work. OR maybe with the right amount of money in someone’s hands would work too.

  13. Please everyone go read and look into what our founding father JOHN BINGHAM did for our nation.John Bingham from state of Ohio.
    His birth certificate can say Hawaii but his FATHER IS FROM KENYA?FOREIGN ALLEGIANCE.So that’s why I’m wondering that all this Malcolm X stuff is coming out is throwing everyone off track?To hold highest office that person must be born on US soil and BOTH PARENTS TO BE BORN ON US SOIL WITH NO FOREIGN OR DOMESTIC ALLEGIANCE.Barack Obama Sr is from Kenya,Barry should have never made the ballot at all!Please go to your libraries and read up,it seems that everything is being scrubbed.

  14. Canadian4Hillary

    GBAmerica, Your absolutely right! Obama should never have made it to the ballot, unfortunately the DNC & others turned a blind eye to the eligibility requirements!

  15. I hope I didn’t offend anyone but this certificate doesn’t matter his father is a foreigner fron another country.Thats why our founding fathers put in natural born(John Bingham),to protect us WE THE PEOPLE and our GREAT NATION!Please take the time to go to your local libraries and read the Encyclopedias.Look for John Bingham from the state of Ohio.Investigate on your own we all need to get this out,tell family,friends,and if someone brings it up just tell them to read what our founding fathers wrote especially John Bingham.
    I saw this one lady everyday,totally in love with Barry and she even mentioned the BC issue,of course we disagreed but of course I didn’t back down either but in a very calm manner I told her to read what John Bingham wrote and investigate what he had done.About 2 weeks later I saw her and she hugged me and she started crying,she understood completely!
    Everyone is waking up and they know!Keep praying everyone!GOD BLESS YOU ALL!!!

  16. That’s why all the DNC and including Biden should be FIRED!!!!!!!!!!!

  17. Obama is not Nixon, Nixon loved his country. In retrospect, the Watergate break in and all that followed is small potatoes compared to what is really at issue today in this country.These people will stop at nothing to validate his eligibility,including fraud. There are no Haldermans nor Erlichmans that we are dealing with here,the only hope is “another Deep Throat” and it appears already, they know how to deal with anyone who speaks or co-operates,or reveals sensitive information..Old Salt is right, it will require All of the Americans to demand confirmation of the eligibity issue ,and all the other issues.
    I am pleased today to know that the first lawsuit has/will be filed on behalf of the returning Veterans referred to as “terrorists” Interestingly,Obama did use that word at the last press conference before he departed Trindad/Tobago conference,suprised no-one picked up on that. I thought that word was expunged from State Dept Language

  18. Those that groomed him and brought him to power are Masters of Deceit. It will be a long hard slog, but it will happen!!!!! Many knew before the election,many more know now,and many many more will know soon..

  19. GBAmerica

    Thanks for taking it farther , but we have been saying this for over a year now,. They were led off on this BC thing by Berg and others not completely informed on the Constitution.

    Welcome to the club and I’ll guarantee you will see posts after mine about the BC,,,,,

  20. darosmith2009

    This is Google’s cache of http://lab.yaa.bpny.name/deadr.html. It is a snapshot of the page as it appeared on Apr 10, 2009 04:35:04 GMT. The current page could have changed in the meantime.
    *Update: Since this article came out today, the source of this content was also scrubbed from Google’s Cache Server. Imagine that!

    Research was done as to the location of where this content originated. It came from Copenhagen Denmark. What you see below is a Dutch-to-English translation of the text. The grammar was cleaned up in a couple spots, but nothing was changed otherwise.

  21. darosmith2009

    Dutch article scrubbed from Web describes Obama citizenship. Article suggests Obama lived with his Mother in Indonesia through his teens, not in Hawaii

  22. It’s too bad that the Texas billionaire, Harold Simmons, isn’t busy trying to cook up something on Pharaoh BO. He’s the one who had made an ad way back linking BO to the Weathermen or whatever. I think at one time that he was interested in finding BO’s BC.

    I don’t know him, but it would be nice if he was behind the scenes like a busy little bee.

  23. GBAmerica

    What did tell you,,,,,,,,LOL

  24. What’s he going to write on his BC?
    That he was born in a hospital where his mother was never a patient?
    That he was born and lived in a house where the longstanding neighbor swears no black infant ever lived?
    That his father’s race was “African”?
    He’ll need vaccination records, infant care records, circumcision records, doctors signatures, and a baby footprint. Oh, so many, forgeries to do.

  25. copy/paste…all the inspirational articles you can find..the facts are this…Y’all need to stand for your own personal standards…cemented in your own beliefs…pasting/copying..other blogs of (facts) are not going to change the impending facts! Bloggers here (HUDDEL) for warm,fuzzy belly button lint! Independently investigate the FACTS for yourselves. After that, draw your OWN conclusions! What is available on anti-Obama blogs,are NOT necessarily the truth. Be independent critical thinkers! Gather facts and make your OWN conclusions. I realize I am screaming in silence. Please trust your instincts..pay attention.

  26. truthbetold11

    those digital health records they want to do will have obamas fake history invovled ,a make believe health history as well watch all will be fake

  27. darosmith2009

    Ann Soetoro Photo Indonesia

    Photo: pr photos Obama is the first African his mom, Ann Dunham, a Caucasian Barack’s Mom remarried Lolo Soetoro, a native of Indonesia. Microcredit for the world s poor, with Indonesia of Hawaii, Barack and his half-sister, Maya Soetoro-ng, cast Ann S a photo of the event published in New York.

    Comment: What event in New York and when?

    Barack Sr., Ann had remarried, another foreign student, Lolo Soetoro, who was attending the University of Hawaii click on a photo to view.

    Joint statement with his sister Maya Soetoro it was there that Stanley Ann later met and fell in love with Obama’s Father, Obama moved to Indonesia with his mother and. A is for Stanley Ann Dunham, Obama’s Mother, who grew i is for Indonesia, where Obama moved after his Mother briefly remarried, to Oil Manager Lolo Soetoro.

    Has spoken in public about Barack Obama, also there is the matter of whether or not Ann when he registered for school in Jakarta, Indonesia, indonesian prop listing his Father as Lolo Soetoro.

    Maya Soetoro-ng they might have learned from the President s mother, Stanley Ann. Mother then married Lolo Soetoro, a radical Muslim from Indonesia, the second husband of Obama’s Mother, Ann Dunham, introduced his.

    Obama s mother, Stanley Ann’s divorce to her second husband, Lolo Soetoro had forests resources hawaii, kenya, natural and that is that he was a citizen of indonesia.

    You as Barry Soetoro incredible! Ann Maya Soetoro is Barack Obama s half-sister she was born in in indonesia. The following iht link to see the beautiful photo! when the President lived in Indonesia as a , his leaps, office Indonesia no figure quite matches stanley ann dunham soetoro, barack obama s.

    Comment: “His leaps” and “office Indonesia”? Did Barry go back and work there at some point and time as an adult? Or, did he ever really leave Indonesia?

    Born in the Usa Peter Jackson the telegram how do soon divorced, and Obama followed his mother to Indonesia – when Stanley Ann (Dunham) Soetoro divorced Lolo Soetoro. It is about Obama’ s extended y from Kansas to Indonesia to Kenya.

    Comment: “from Kansas to Indonesia to Kenya”, what about Hawaii? Does this explain the virtual no-connection to Hawaii, only where he went to visit his ailing Grand-mother, though virtual, unseen, unheard, and un-interviewed. Obama’s kids didn’t even go when he did to see his dying Grandma – only he went. They went to the Funeral though, but there was no body, of course. It leads one to believe Hawaii was only used as a “staging point” for affiliation with America. Afterall, Obama didn’t even get the number of states right.
    The phrase high-lighted in Red would suggest Obama never lived with his Grandma in Hawaii, but stayed with his Mom in Indonesia after her divorce!

    Photo galleries photoblog when he became a citizen of Indonesia through his adoption by his mother’s nd Husband, Lolo Soetoro all, it has e clear that Ann. Link the religion with terrorism and see Iindonesia, the world s Obama’s Stepfather, Dutch Spice Monopoly Indonesia Lolo Soetoro, was much more of a free spirit incorrectly and failed to list his mother, Ann.

    In this March file photo treasury point oversaw a program developed by Obama s mother, Ann Dunham Soetoro, when she worked for the Ford Foundation in Indonesia. To the exclusion of his White us-born Mother, Stanley Ann sitting in the Library of the US Embassy in Indonesia and discovers a photo his indonesian stepfather Lolo Soetoro s.

    Elementary school records in Indonesia list Obama’s name as Barry Soetoro, his religion as Islam Anne in Davis book is Obama’s mother, Indonesia artist bokep Stanley Ann.

    Comment: “Anne in Davis book is Obama’s mother”. So could Andy Martin’s claim be correct, in that Frank Marshall Davis is Obama’s real Father?

    Approximately four (4) years old, nude indonesian photo his mother, Stanley Ann Dunham, Soup in Indonesia married Lolo Soetoro, a citizen of Indonesia as a result of Obama’s Indonesia natural citizenship status.

    Later, his mother married Indonesian man, Lolo Soetoro five years that we would live with my stepfather in Indonesia the same seeds of prejudice, every time i see photo s and. Barack s half sister, was born in indonesia Ann Dunham, Soup in indonesia.

    And feel free to attach a photo, too, if you wish. Ann Soetoro was a teen mother who later got a PHd in from the Midwest who was fortable in Indonesia; a. In Hawaii while his mother was living in indonesia.

    Lolo soetoro stayed in indonesia after he and Ann divorced, and died in from a Liver McCain’s father was a four-star Admiral in the US Navy, (photo. Maya Kassandra Soetoro Obama’s half sister who was born in indonesia for “Barry Soetoro” (ap photo) citizen of Indonesia at any point Obama s American Mother, Ann Dunham..


    Based on the information above, could Obama have come over on a Student Visa from Indonesia, to attend College at 18 in the states? He met his Marxist CIA Professor at Occidental College and was recruited to study Sovietology. Lolo was a radical Muslim and Indonsia is mostly Muslim. Did Obama continue to live with his Mom in Indonesia and study Islam at the same time? The most recent picture of Obama with his Grandma “Toot” is over 20 years old. No other pictures. Could it just be from a visit to Hawaii with his Mom? No one remembers Obama in Hawaii. The address he said he lived, the neighbors said they don’t remember seeing him, not even once. No one at the school in Hawaii, it was said he attended, remembers him being there. No class-mates, nothing. The hospitals in Hawaii claim they have no records of his Mom having been treated there for Cancer.

  28. My birth certificate shows both my parents state where they were born. How is soetoro gonna show his father born in kenya?? So simple, born in US to two citizens. When someone in authority agrees, he should be gone

    They be better off continuing lying rather than create more lies.

  29. Kathy,

    Tell us something that has not already been posted on all the anti-soetoro sites. Maybe you have some information that hasnt been sealed or destroyed!!

  30. Obama’s birth certificate or whether or not he was born in Hawaii may be moot. Whether or not he is legally eligible to be president under the US Constitution is not. Obama –as we all know–never proved his presidential eligibility.

    Why not have an unbirthday party for him. Why not start sending him birthday cards the way tea bags were sent? Why not ask in those birthday cards where is Obama’s proof he is our legal president? Why not start demanding elected officials hear us or lose their seats? Time is of the essence. The pressure must continue to be applied until something gives!

    If enough time goes by and Obama remains in office running around the planet like a loose cannon–then America as we knew it to be is lost forever! My only gratitude is most of my life is behind me and my years on the planet are numbered. I would rather be dead than have to face a future in what is going to happen to the naive people of America.

  31. Dick Cheney is guest on Hannity (FOX) tonight. Part one, 9pm Eastern. Talking about the secret docs released by soetoro.

  32. citizenwells

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  33. Air Force Brat

    I guess it’s silly to wonder what the birth certificates of Obama’s children show for their father’s birthplace …. he and his minions would have “fixed” that little problem long ago. Damn it.

  34. not my president

    Therese, that’s a great idea! His birthday is coming up in August. We could all join together to send unbirthday cards to the White House.


    Department of Justice to Observe National Crime Victims’ Rights Week

    Attorney General to Host Prelude Events in Washington, DC on Thursday, April 23, and Friday, April 24

    Attorney General Eric Holder will host the Department of Justice’s National Crime Victims’ Rights Week prelude events on Thursday, April 23, and Friday, April 24, 2009. This year’s theme, “25 Years of Rebuilding Lives: Celebrating the Victims of Crime Act,” brings attention to the progress made in serving victims of crime. Both events are open to the public; however, registration is required. To register visit: http://www.ncvrw.org.


    WHO: Eric Holder, Attorney General
    Laurie O. Robinson, Acting Assistant Attorney General, OJP
    Joye E. Frost, Acting Director, Office for Victims of Crime, OJP
    Jeffrey E. Taylor, U.S. Attorney for the District of Columbia
    Quincy A. Lucas, Founder and President, Witney’s Lights, Inc.

    WHERE: U.S. Chamber of Commerce
    Hall of Flags
    1615 H Street, N.W.
    Washington, DC


    WHEN: THURSDAY, APRIL 23, 2009
    6:30 P.M. EDT

    Government-credentialed media may arrive and set up as early as 5:30 p.m. Equipment vans should proceed to the loading dock on I Street side. Press inquiries regarding logistics should be directed to Michelle Person at 202-305-7381.


    WHO: Eric Holder, Attorney General
    Laurie O. Robinson, Acting Assistant Attorney General, OJP
    Joye E. Frost, Acting Director, Office for Victims of Crime, OJP
    Recipients of National Crime Victims’ Rights Service Awards

    WHERE: Andrew W. Mellon Auditorium
    1301 Constitution Avenue, N.W.
    Washington, DC


    WHEN: FRIDAY, APRIL 24, 2009
    1:30 P.M. EDT

    Government-credentialed media may arrive and set up as early as 12:30 P.M. Press inquiries regarding logistics should be directed to Michelle Person at 202-305-7381.


    If she cannot make it, she should make arrangements to have some on her behalf to attend along with a large number of supporters.


  36. There needs to lots of BIG signs at this event.100 protesters ought to send the message.

  37. http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=95630

    ‘Ordinary people more readily fall victim to the big lie rather than the small lie” i.e., the Big Lie theory of political propaganda that Rosa Brooks claims was used by the Bush administration. Maybe so, but nothing in comparison to the current one.

  38. Obama is a gay Indonesian.

  39. Yes, we only 3 days to oragnize a massive front at the event. Email everyone you telling them about this event. Holder and Taylor will there. People having trying to reach these 2 individuals for months and this in finally our BIG chance to reach them.

  40. http://pr-usa.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=197459&Itemid=95


    Post is every blog and email to everyone you know.

    Tell Dr. Orly Taitz about!!!

    This is a must attend event.

  41. http://www.oilforimmigration.org/
    This is about our gun rights,they are starting off with our ammunition!Must read!

  42. Pingback: The Right Side of Life » Obama Birth Certificate Forgery Claim


    barry can print up whatever he wants. he can call it whatever he pleases. he can parade it around to whomever he chooses.

    BUT let’s all remember that we already know the HI dept of health officials have publicly declared that THEY have the original on file in their vault in Honolulu.

    So if soetoro wants to declare that his is the real McCoy, I say OK barry let’s take a little side trip to HI and put yours up against what is the OFFICIAL version in the file! I’ll even spring for the airline tickets and a camera crew. Whaddya Say??

  44. GBAmerica said:

    This is about our gun rights,they are starting off with our ammunition!Must read!”


    All that’s going to do is cause gun owners in the U.S. to buy overseas stock of non-encoded ammo, with or without federal consent. There’s enough surplus ammo in this country by existing owners in this country to fight 3 wars, maybe more.

    I wish them luck in confiscating even 1/100th of it. Ask any gun owner and I’ll bet the average number of rounds they have on hand to be somewhere between 2000 and 20000 rounds. So that’s roughly 108,800,000,000,000,000,000 rounds, give or take a couple hundred trillion. And most of it has a shelf life of about 30-75 years. Some people are still firing ammo from WWII.

    I think we’ll be just fine for the upcoming revolution, don’t you?

  45. And does anyone know if anyone has produced BO COLB toiletpaper yet?

    I would think now is as good a time as any.

  46. I Dare any reporter to ask BaWRECK “The Bastard” (of yet unknown roots) if he is REALLY PROUD that his fellow Countrywoman WON THE BOSTON MARATHON TODAY?

  47. I found this on another blog and saved it. Don’t remember which one. Has anyone else seen this?

    The First Time I Heard Of Barack
    By Tom Fife
    During the period of roughly February 1992 to mid 1994, I was making frequent trips to Moscow, Russia, in the process of starting a software development joint-venture company with some people from the Russian scientific community. One of the men in charge on the Russian side was named V. M.; he had a wife named T.M.
    V. was a level-headed scientist while his wife was rather deeply committed to the losing Communist cause – a cause she obviously was not abandoning.

    One evening, during a trip early in 1992, the American half of our venture were invited to V. & T.’s Moscow flat as we were about to return to the States. The party went well and we had the normal dinner discussions.
    As the evening wore on, T. developed a decidedly rough anti-American edge – one her husband tried to quietly rein in.
    The bottom line of the tirade she started against the United States went something like this:
    “You Americans always like to think that you have the perfect government and your people are always so perfect. Well then, why haven’t you had a woman president by now? You had a chance to vote for a woman vice-president and you didn’t do it.”
    The general response went something along the lines that you don’t vote for someone just because of their sex. Besides, you don’t vote for vice-president, but the president and vice-president as a ticket.
    “Well, I think you are going to be surprised when you get a black president very soon.”
    The consensus we expressed was that we didn’t think there was anything innately barring that. The right person at the right time and sure, America would try to vote for the right person, be he or she black or not.
    “What if I told you that you will have a black president very soon and he will be a Communist?”
    The out-of-the-blue remark was met by our stares. She continued, “Well, you will; and he will be a Communist.”
    It was then that the husband unsuccessfully tried to change the subject; but she was on a roll and would have nothing of it. One of us asked, “It sounds like you know something we don’t know.”
    “Yes, it is true. This is not some idle talk. He is already born and he is educated and being groomed to be president right now. You will be impressed to know that he has gone to the best schools of Presidents. He is what you call “Ivy League”. You don’t believe me, but he is real and I even know his name. His name is Barack. His mother is white and American and his father is black from Africa. That’s right, a chocolate baby! And he’s going to be your President.”
    She became more and more smug as she presented her stream of detailed knowledge and predictions so matter-of-factly – as though all were foregone conclusions. “It’s all been thought out. His father is not an American black so he won’t have that social slave stigma. He is intelligent and he is half white and has been raised from the cradle to be an atheist and a Communist. He’s gone to the finest schools. He is being guided every step of the way and he will be irresistible to America.”
    We sat there not knowing what to say. She was obviously very happy that the Communists were doing this and that it would somehow be a thumbing of their collective noses at America: they would give us a black president and he’d be a Communist to boot. She made it quite obvious that she thought that this was going to breathe new life into world Communism. From this and other conversations with her, she always asserted that Communism was far from dead.
    She was full of little details about him that she was eager to relate. I thought that maybe she was trying to show off that this truly was a real person and not just hot air.
    She rattled off a complete litany. He was from Hawaii. He went to school in California. He lived in Chicago. He was soon to be elected to the legislature. “Have no doubt: he is one of us, a Soviet.”
    At one point, she related some sort of San Francisco connection, but I didn’t understand what the point was and don’t recall much about that. I was just left with the notion that she considered the city to be some sort of a center for their activity here.
    Since I had dabbled in languages, I knew a smattering of Arabic. I made a comment: “If I remember correctly, ‘Barack’ comes from the Arabic word for ‘Blessing.’ That seems to be an odd name for an American.” She replied quickly, “Yes. It is ‘African’”, she insisted, “and he will be a blessing for world Communism. We will regain our strength and become the number one power in the world.”
    She continued with something to the effect that America was at the same time the great hope and the great obstacle for Communism. America would have to be converted to Communism and Barack was going to pave the way.
    So, what does this conversation from 1992 prove?
    Well, it’s definitely anecdotal. It doesn’t prove that Obama has had Soviet Communist training nor that he was groomed to be the first black American president, but it does show one thing that I think is very important. It shows that Soviet Russian Communists knew of Barack from a very early date. It also shows that they truly believed among themselves that he was raised and groomed Communist to pave the way for their future. This report on Barack came personally to me from one of them long before America knew he existed.
    Although I had never before heard of him, at the time of this conversation Obama was 30+ years old and was obviously tested enough that he was their anticipated rising star.

  48. Maybe it is time for someone to look up the person in Russia who was doing all the talking. Hopefully a great deal of additional information could be extracted, particularly when she is inebriated. Maybe she even has some RECORDS that she would be willing to share;(when drunk).

  49. We are now facing one of the most serious situations that SOETORO has caused since he has taken office. He is now attempting to gut the CIA of past, and present US securitysecret information. He believes that it should all be in the hands of the MSM. This is really serious he is so damn stupid it defies logic. In reality he is placing the US in a very serious position. Several of our top CIA people have tried in vain to stop his insane pursuit. This only confirms to me that it is probable that within months,or even weeks, that Ahmadinajad will also be reading our NUCLEAR secrets, with special assistance from VALERIE JARRETT,who is a good friend of Ahmadinajad. SOETORO saw to it that she recieved a top position at the Whitehouse. I really do hope that all of you OBOTS out there each recieve a nuclear bomb down your chimney; all nice and GIFT wrapped with a card of thanks from Ahmadinajad. You all think that he is such a nice guy!

  50. TO:: CA Patriot // April 20, 2009 at 11:01 pm


    barry can print up whatever he wants. he can call it whatever he pleases. he can parade it around to whomever he chooses.

    BUT let’s all remember that we already know the HI dept of health officials have publicly declared that THEY have the original on file in their vault in Honolulu.

    So if soetoro wants to declare that his is the real McCoy, I say OK barry let’s take a little side trip to HI and put yours up against what is the OFFICIAL version in the file! I’ll even spring for the airline tickets and a camera crew. Whaddya Say??>>
    If they go thru all that trouble don’t you think they are doing it to REPLACE the one on file in Hawaii? Then they will allow a court order or BaWRECK “The Bastard” will juts say “UNCLE” and allow the newly made BC to be released with Muddy Stream Press Fanfare. CORRUPTION, FRAUD, FORGERY is not above the Pirate President’s pay grade.

  51. . Since SOETORO thinks it is ok to referr to our military personell as terrorists, then I am within my rights to refer to SOETORO as an ASSHO## I am a veteran who served BEFORE THAT BASTARD WAS ON EARTH.

  52. Hey just a couple of thoughts since spring is here and the weather is warming up and Dick Cheney is starting to do a little talking I think it’s time for him to schedule a Spring Hunting Trip. What you say he invites, BaWRECK, Chavez, Castro, Napolitano & maybe a known Iranian loud mouth and a pot bellied North Korean.

    I would also suggest the Muddy Stream Media’s regular low life teabagging recepticals to cover the event. They should bring Garofolo (what’s a Gar of fool-o?) Maher to join the trip as a “expert comentators.

    Happy Hunting Cheney!

  53. “What you say he invites, BaWRECK, Chavez, Castro, Napolitano & maybe a known Iranian loud mouth and a pot bellied North Korean.”

    What about Pelosi, can she go too?

  54. Obama was not able to get HI to come right out say they had an original showing him born in that state, so although he managed to get them to make that ambiguous statement, he might not be able to count on them being so corrupt as to let him substitute a fake certificate.

    I’m just going by my general sense of what is transpiring, and I admit I could be wrong.

  55. Speaking of Dick Cheney hunting trip, great article on Lame Cherry concerning CIA docs:


  56. From Lame Cherry…………..

    Stanley Ann Dunham playing hide the wiener with foreign males in the 60’s would have lit up like red lights for Hoover’s FBI. Add to that the Ford Foundation which Dunham worked for has extensive files off their books by the CIA which utilizes Ford as much as the globalists for operations.

    Had to laugh with that one!! LOL
    All this I read months ago, why is it just now getting printed???

  57. TO:: kittycat // April 21, 2009 at 10:44 am

    “What you say he invites, BaWRECK, Chavez, Castro, Napolitano & maybe a known Iranian loud mouth and a pot bellied North Korean.”

    What about Pelosi, can she go too?”>>
    Sure if she can land her taxpayer paid plane in the deep woods hopefully most of these CONS in CONgress will be with her.

    Happy Hunting Cheney

  58. Is it coming to this………..

    Hey, Barry, I’ll show you mine if you show me yours!!!!

  59. TO:: texasdude // April 21, 2009 at 11:02 am

    Obama was not able to get HI to come right out say they had an original showing him born in that state, so although he managed to get them to make that ambiguous statement, he might not be able to count on them being so corrupt as to let him substitute a fake certificate.

    I’m just going by my general sense of what is transpiring, and I admit I could be wrong.” >>

    There are much harder things to do.

    It can happen in the middle of the night without anyone knowing it. During a Holiday etc who would know. Trust me Hawaii love to have the prestige and the increased tourism, etc of the BaWRECK FRAUD/FORGERY FOUNDATION afterwards. Even if BaWRECK “The Bastard” gets arrested and removed it will attracts tourism to see where he lived his granma buried, etc. Maya, The Indoensian, can pull strings there she is probably in the family business of Communist Community Organizing. Eventually she can run the family’s Fraud/Forgery Foundation in Hawaii.

  60. In reality he is placing the US in a very serious position. Several of our top CIA people have tried in vain to stop his insane pursuit.

    If they’d wanted to stop him, he’d have been stopped long ago–the opportunities have been presented.

  61. TO:: JJ // April 21, 2009 at 12:05 pm

    Is it coming to this………..

    Hey, Barry, I’ll show you mine if you show me yours!!!!”>>
    He has little to show and MUCH to HIDE according to someone that knows, Larry Sinclair. Judging by Sinclair he may be more interesting in seeing yours than showing his.

    But if he hits the crackpipe he may start his “Gallows Humor” again and agree to show and tell. BUT Only if you agree that he will be your teabagging receptacle (nut cup).


  63. Ms. Helga: Yes, Obama’s right–he, our enemy, is not so constained.

  64. He’s always wanted to toss out the Constitution

    he only knows what Obama thinks, and that is to rewrite America in his vision

    we’re doomed if so

  65. Department of Justice to Observe National Crime Victims’ Rights Week

    Attorney General to Host Prelude Events in Washington, DC on Thursday, April 23, and Friday, April 24

    Attorney General Eric Holder will host the Department of Justice’s National Crime Victims’ Rights Week prelude events on Thursday, April 23, and Friday, April 24, 2009. This year’s theme, “25 Years of Rebuilding Lives: Celebrating the Victims of Crime Act,” brings attention to the progress made in serving victims of crime. Both events are open to the public; however, registration is required. To register visit: http://www.ncvrw.org.


    WHO: Eric Holder, Attorney General
    Laurie O. Robinson, Acting Assistant Attorney General, OJP
    Joye E. Frost, Acting Director, Office for Victims of Crime, OJP
    Jeffrey E. Taylor, U.S. Attorney for the District of Columbia
    Quincy A. Lucas, Founder and President, Witney’s Lights, Inc.

    WHERE: U.S. Chamber of Commerce
    Hall of Flags
    1615 H Street, N.W.
    Washington, DC


    WHEN: THURSDAY, APRIL 23, 2009
    6:30 P.M. EDT

    Government-credentialed media may arrive and set up as early as 5:30 p.m. Equipment vans should proceed to the loading dock on I Street side. Press inquiries regarding logistics should be directed to Michelle Person at 202-305-7381.


    WHO: Eric Holder, Attorney General
    Laurie O. Robinson, Acting Assistant Attorney General, OJP
    Joye E. Frost, Acting Director, Office for Victims of Crime, OJP
    Recipients of National Crime Victims’ Rights Service Awards

    WHERE: Andrew W. Mellon Auditorium
    1301 Constitution Avenue, N.W.
    Washington, DC


    WHEN: FRIDAY, APRIL 24, 2009
    1:30 P.M. EDT

    Government-credentialed media may arrive and set up as early as 12:30 P.M. Press inquiries regarding logistics should be directed to Michelle Person at 202-305-7381.


    If she cannot make it, she should make arrangements to have some on her behalf to attend along with a large number of supporters.


    Blog this and email it to everyone you know.

    A Front must be able to attend.

  66. Eric Holder and Jeffrey Talyor will available to the public on April 23, 2009.

    This is the big chance we have been waiting for.

    10,000 patriots should attend.

    World Net Daily should attend.

    And most importantly many lawyers need to attend so they can reach Holder and Taylor and supply them with documentation and get an answer.

  67. Hey I know this has nothing to do with what is going on but I found this awesome site.Dinners for 5dollars.Especially with the way the economy is.
    Gives sites to get coupons and she also teaches how to do these dishes.

  68. truthbetold11

    Folks about 2 years ago Obama said in a mock sermon, that even our military can’t figure out the sermon on the mount and said “a house divided by itself will not stand” He’s using our own christian principles and unity to divide us! This is no accident using our value system to divide us totally from each other, He knows the bible and many things I know about the bible he is using the exact opposite of what the bible teaches, EXACTLY!! He knows that by dividing us completely will help his personal agenda. This is by design. We must unite or be lost.

  69. truthbetold11

    Oh yeah, the mystery donors all went to swing state colleges this must be investigated, indoctrinating colleges with proproganda

  70. If you’re like me and losing track of all the scandals, I just found this great list that is being updated daily. It’s in chronological order. Great reference for when you’re having those discussions w/ obots and koolaid drinkers, too.

    The Official Obama Administration Scandals Count: http://conservativeamerican.org/

  71. Just jumping in without reading, so don’t know if already posted. Just now on Cavuto – he was interviewing Rasmussen via satelite and in the video was a person holding a poster asking about the BIRTH CERTIFICATE ?? !!!!

    I swear!!

    LOL !

  72. darosmith2009

    Starting with the report
    From the original report about Obama’s administration doing a long form Birth Certificate Forgery:

    “They have already prepared the forgery with special paper and ink. The document was printed on a fully functional 1960 Heidelberger printing press located at a print museum in Toronto. Access was arranged by a trustee of the museum who is connected to a large Canadian banking/investment firm with major US interests.”
    Expounding on this striking detail, some blanks needed to be filled in.

    Locating the Museum in Toronto with a printing press that would do the job

    Are you ready for this? Research was done on nearly every Museum in the Toronto area for a printing press that was operational and could do a forgery. Everything connecting museums in the area with this type and age of printing press kept pointing back to one Museum in the area. The name of the Museum this the “National Museum of Science and Technology” in Toronto. It has quite a collection of older printing presses. Below is a snippet of the Museums description:

    Among numerous exhibits in this educational facility is a collection of printing equipment that includes flatbeds, jobbers, cylinder and rotary presses (http://www.briarpress.org/139)
    Identifying a Trustee with links to Canadian banking and investment firms

    The next item of business was to find any Trustees (as mentioned by the report) to this Museum that had a connection to a large Canadian investment firm. After looking into this, one person really stood out right away. The Museum only has three Trustees assigned to it and Margaret Smith came up with a numerous ties to Canada’s economic and investment banking syndicate.

    It is likely because she serves on the Standing Senate Committee on Banking, Trade and Commerce for Canada. This definitely qualifies her for being connected to not just one, but several Canadian banking and investment firms. If it is like in the US, then she probably gets “kick-backs” from more than one firm, by introducing legislation to the Committee that will benefit the firms substantially. The Trustee of the Museum and member of the Senate Banking Committee appear to be the same Margaret Smith, though not 100% certain.

    Canadian Source URL confirming Margaret Smith attending a Senate Banking Committee meeting: http://www.parl.gc.ca/36/1/parlbus/commbus/senate/com-e/bank-e/27mn-e.htm?Language=E&Parl=36&Ses=1&comm_id=3 (how much you want to bet this gets scrubbed?).
    Canadian Source URL confirming Margaret Smith as a Trustee to the Museum (this one less likely to get scrubbed, but probably will)
    Both sources were backed up, along with images. If anyone wants to see the original sites as they were, let me know (in case they are scrubbed).

    There are still some questions left, like who did Obama meet with and that is also a member of this same Banking Committee on his recent trip to Canada?

    Another question, if Obama and/or his administration did set this in motion, is there any advantage to using Canada? There was one other 1960 Heidelberg printing press located at Excelsior Press of Frenchtown, New Jersey, according to research. No others were found though.

    Last question (for now), if Obama were to come out with vault forgery, and as Steve Christensen points out (thanks for the great document forgery work by the way (http://nobarack08.wordpress.com/)) he would not be able to pass it off for the following reasons:

    1. They would have to disclose their residence. Neighbors who were there atb the time, did NOT recall the Obama’s or an inter-racial couple. The Obama’s would have stood out in the early 1960’s.

    2. Race of Father, this is an official US document and again referring back to the US Natality documentation, on what legal entries were acceptable.

    Then why if the long form is different, why the short form that was supposed to be filled in from information on the long form is different?

    3. Age of mother? Was Obama’s mother listed a different age, then her legal age, to protect against a felony charge of rape. Remember this is the early 1960’s and not today.

    4. Signature of attendant? This can be crossed referenced to duty logs and employment records. The name can NOT be pulled out of the air. They already attempted this with a Dr that retired in 1956. If there is a different name, another re-flag

    The State of Hawaii also allows for ONLY one, attendant verification, and it can be either a Mid-wife, Doctor, Doctor’s Orderly [sp], or even other.

    5. The name of the hospital would also have to be identified, again the staffing records, and employment records and Doctors Staff, would have records.
    My question is then .. if Obama has a faction of the CIA doing dirty-deeds for him, (even before the election as he was recruited from Occidental College to study Sovietology by a Professor that also happened to be a top officer in the CIA and current member of the Tri-lateral Commission and Obama’s inner circle, Zbigniew Brzezinski), wouldn’t the most difficult piece to this forgery be out of the way? They could fill in “props” for the rest?

    Also, Obama’s administration could hire (or bribe) a team of document experts to say it is a valid Vault copy after inspection. You’d then have as much controversy between experts as you currently have over the Shroud of Turin.

  73. Now both the USURPER,and the head of US Security MS.NAPOLITANO have both referred to our military service personell,both active, and veterans as being terrorists, and potential terrorists.They both deliberately publically DEMEANED, and therefore instilled an untrue belief in the minds of all Americans that HAS HARMED, IS PRESENTLY HARMING, AND WILL CONTINUE TO HARM, the well being of ALL who have ever served in the US Military services. This is a very sad day in our history when an administration is SO CORRUPT that they must resort to this sort of rhetoric to gain attention. Our military personell both past and present have been inexorably injured by the deliberate verbal untruth lodged against us. I believe that the trust in our military has been BROKEN, and that PUBLIC DISTRUST now ensues. I beliieve that a CLASS ACTION for PUNITIVE DAMAGES SHOULD BE BROUGHT against the US GOVERNMENT,in the amount of $25 billion dollars to be divided equally with all US military personell both active and veterans alike. I think that retired military personell who are lawyers of standing should consider forming a group forthwith to manage, and prosecute the action. This suit needs to be officially on record as outstanding with regard to the future viability of our military services. Every American military person needs to get behind this action.

  74. Old Salt. One lawsuit has been filed
    http://www.thomasmore.org has the complaint .Hopefully more will follow suit

  75. Jacqlyn Smith

    Anyone else tired of these Liberals trying to prosecute the previous administration for keeping us safe……I say they shouldn’t have used enhanced interrogation….they should have cut their heads off like they do to our people!!! Get a clue people…..the Congress at the time signed off on all of these techniques….. nothing to do with what was done….they approved it!!!

  76. CW, How is the WHY? project coming? I hope I called it correctly.

  77. US Army DAV……..Hi Guy…….
    I have posted something which every US serviceman should now be entitled to via class action lawsuit against the Federal Government. This is what I personally believe should now happen as a direct result of the recent remarks of both MS.JANET NAPOLITANO, and Barrack Hussein Obama. Do you as a veteran feel demeaned, and otherwise unjustly accused of being a POTENTIAL terrorist.? I don’t know about you but I was in during the KOREAN war. Many of our 1st Marine Div. lost their lives at the CHOSIN RESERVIOR. I ASK “DO you think that they were TERRORISTS? If our slimy leadership can call them terrorists, or even imply that they are potential terrorists then I have the right to IMPLY the both MS. Napolitano, and Barry Soetoro are CORRUPT B-A-S-T-A-R-D-S, and should be REMOVED FROM OFFICE FORTHWITH.

  78. citizenwells

    Dean Haskins had to back off for a while due to some other obligations.
    As far as I am concerned, this is an ongoing project impacting the 2010 congressional elections.
    2010 is huge. Probably bigger in impact than 2008.

  79. Ms Helga

    Last night on Greta, Rush was interviewed and he said, “obama usurps and rewriting the Constitution.”

  80. that is NOT what i copied

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  82. Air Force Brat

    Oldsalt76 — you said something very interesting in a prior post about the potential BC forgery attempt. It was along the lines of “no matter how skillful the forgers are, they can only make a fake LOOK old. They can’t make the paper actually BE old”. I’m paraphrasing, because I don’t remember the exact words you used. Would you mind re-posting that part? Thanks in advance.


    how about a fairer figure : $787 billion ?!

  84. i see no reason for barry to put out a BC


    he hasn’t lost a single battle in court yet, until he does, he will keep winging it

    time to move on, i see no train wreck here.

    the suits appear to be done, it’s APriL ,
    the QWs don’t appear to be going anywhere.


    what is happening with BERG’s closed suit? nothing, it appears, unless BARRY is responding to THAT suit.

    folks it doesn’t look promising.

    the best hope is for military to come through and state legilators pass eligilibity laws to fix this gross loop hole that the courts and DEMS are talking advantage of.

    unless of course, 100,ooo plus of us want to march to hawaii and sit and protest until the health dept. releases what they have on file?
    but then again, that still won’t prove a thing, it will only be a factor if it shows barry borne in kenya

    either way he’s not a NBC

  85. da verg,

    Never give up fighting for the Constitution. I agree the suits are not getting traction, but they are raising awareness.

    Nevertheless Soetoro will be removed. Patriots will see to that.

  86. Where Special Ops? CIA ought to be pissed now. Is that why barry spends all his time out of the country. Scared of Americans. He should be shaking in his flip flops!

    Tonight on Hannity (FOX) 9pm eastern, part two of his interview with VP Cheney. Last night Cheney asked in March for the calssified docs to be unclassed so americans can see what the results were of the terrigations. Barry doesnt want this because it will show the americans the real threat and what Buah aministration did to keep us safe for 7 years.

  87. Air Force Brat

    Oldsalt76 — never mind, I found it in this very thread. The oversight wasn’t intentional, and I feel like a real nimrod. I have so little available time online that I normally have to limit myself to reading the newest posts in any given thread.

  88. When is someone gonna stand up to the guy? He is walking all over congress. Larry Sinclair is the only one right now. Is he a natural born citizen?

    Dr. Orly for Attorney Gen and oldsalt76 for SECDEF.

  89. Air Force Brat

    Not really sure why all the attention on the bc. Mine shows my parents state of birth, so Im not sure how obama can show a state for his kenyan born father.

  90. I’m a little concerned about this report by Pam Gellar of Atlas Shrugs. It wouldn’t bug me so, but it’s the second murder in the past few years that so conveniently solves a “problem” for Obama. The first was an openly gay minister at his church (Rev. Wright’s church) with whom Larry Sinclair alleged BO had had a lengthy affair and wanted to talk about it. I was willing to brush that off as impossible in a presidential candidacy just for its sheer sordidness. But now, here’s a second murder of the man investigating Obama’s passport file break in about a year ago. Gellar alleges the break in was deliberate in order to tamper with the passport in relation to BO’s trip to Pakistan as a young man.

    Do you think there is any reason to be concerned about this? I can’t shake being totally creeped out. Here’s the link:


  91. TO:: Entwife // April 21, 2009 at 8:02 pm

    We should all be more than creeped. We should be worried and working hard everyday to convince others to what we know.

    It was not just Donald Young, the choir director and alleged BaWRECK’s homosexual lover from the church/mosque in Chicago, that got assassinated there was at least two more murders at the same time and at least one of them was homosexual and suspected of also being involved w/ BaWRECK Soetoro.

    Keep the pressue on at all angles….even if it is a dead end it is bringing awareness.

    Make it a point everyone to tell people about it and point them to these websites, etc.

    One good way is to mention … “Are you aware that “obama” is the only president to Seal all his School Records, Legal Documents, and even his Birth Certificate? Are you aware that there was already close to 100 LAWSUITS, some at the Supreme Court to force the release of his records? Are you aware that “obama” ran and won his first campaign for the Communist Party in Chicago? Words matter and he professes Transparency Yet has spent over $1,000,000 dollars with High Profile Lawyers to HIDE all his Records. I am curious and concerend about what he is trying to hard to hide ?
    When you have time take a look at this and after please let me know what you think.

    After hand them a hand written note with some website or a couple of them. Maybe World Net Daily would be a good start.

    I write a bunch of these paper ahead of time and hand them out even leave them in all diff places like public restrooms, etc.

    The more people that know the harder to hide.

    God bless US

  92. oldsalt76

    Army 1966-1968 , retired July 4, 1999 from the government, I receive 100% total disability.

    My Uncle served with the 1st Marine Div. during the Korean war.

    I lost my nephew last year , and my son leaves for Afghanistan in June.

    Nice thought on the class action lawsuit, but I think at this point the only thing that’s going to work is if ten million us go to Washington and have a 3 day rally.

  93. Therese–

    I posted on several blogs just after the tax day tea parties that we need to have another one very soon to demand he prove he is eligible to be POTUS. We should get one organized immediately!!

  94. James // April 21, 2009 at 2:42 pm

    Hi James,

    Hate to sound like Debbie Downer here, but Holder is Soetoro’s good buddy. I really doubt that anyone is going to force him to act. Orly has been hammering him with info, dossiers, letters, etc., for quite some time and to my knowledge, there has been no response. I don’t think Taylor is much better.

    The time will come. The dominoes just need one little kick to start toppling; maybe via Larry Sinclair’s book, maybe from someone none of us knows anything about, but it will happen.

    The thing is to not let the NBC issue be forgotten. We all need to keep at it until this whole mess shakes out.

  95. “No one is above the law”—from the WH/bho–

    I hope he remembers this when he is removed.
    Decision to “leave the door open” to investigating past history aka political prisoners’
    treatments by the Bush Administration—

    Of course obama will not release memos stating
    how the techniques used yielded important
    info that saved American lives.
    Glad to know obama is “open” to “investigations”
    so when Eric Holder OPENS his investigation
    against the “Commander-in-Chief” obama will
    fully understand NO ONE is above the law.

    Good-bye Mr. Soetoro.

  96. Thisday News from Nigeria…… this showed up today 4/21/09, scroll to the bottom to see a clear overview of Obama eligibility, that sounds pre-November…hmmm?


  97. Usurperman is trying to hide the fact he is a german sleeper agent and that his father is Malcolm x


  98. Cheney in his interview says obama’s economyanti terrorism plans are dangerous. He agrees not to get personal but to disagree with policies and for the people to speak up. He is concerned with the safety of the country.

    Sure like to see him as President right now!

  99. cq,
    Thank you for that,WOW!!
    As of right now I as a natural TRUE BORN CITIZEN of the Us,I want that man arrested!
    I want a new election!

  100. Check out our “British born Presidents” on wiki. I don’t know how to link to the site but here it is. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lists_of_United_States_Presidents_by_place_of_birth

  101. Entwife // April 21, 2009 at 8:02 pm

    I’m a little concerned about this ……..

    May I offer a thought. When one such as BO substitutes his reasoning in a way that completely ignores any moral boundries, what do you have?

    Well lets just sat that a man who would stand in favor of letting newborns die in a closet http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6heVhZfVwR8&feature=related

    has a cold dead heart.

    Is terminating a man that will obstruct a global social experiment and racial reparation any different on a moral scale.

    Obama’s mentor William Ayers and Co. were planning to discard 250,000 as part of thier revolution.


    These are not a bunch of boy scouts. They are totally blind to the fact that they serve the Ruler of darkness.

    Hate the sin, love the sinner.

  102. The Grandfather Clause in the “Natural Born” citation in the US Constitution holds True.

    Even though we have never a president not born in this country (Before Obama), many presidential candidates were ran who not born in this country.

    They were able to run because of the grandfather clause. They were US Citizens at the time the US Constitution was adopted:

    Here are numerous examples:

    1796 Election Presidential Candidates:

    James Iredell – James Iredell was born in Lewes, England

    Samuel Johnston – Johnston was born in Dundee, Scotland

  103. TO::
    bob strauss // April 21, 2009 at 9:48 pm

    Check out our “British born Presidents” on wiki. I don’t know how to link to the site but here it is.


    I have noticed you out here alwasy giving mis-information or placing misleading arguments and just wondering: Are you a Paid ObaMORON blogger from Change.gov or Recovery.gov? What is your game? What are your intentions?

    I was just at that link that you sent….and all those listed there were BORN on US SOIL. Of course some of them were British Subjects there was NO USA how could they be USA citizens. That is all covered in the NBC Clause. To be President one had to be a New Citizen at the Time of the Signing of the Document or thereafter a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN…..meaning those that weren’t in country to fight for Indenpendence of build that country but came from elsewhere later they WERE NOT QUALIFIED because they could have other allegiances.

    The founding fathers were so wise. Almost 3 hundredes years ago tehy were looking out for us and their country. They knew there would be a day that somoene with bad intentions and other loyalties would try to become President and destroy this country. Looks like they were RIGHT ON.

    You are either intentionally misleading, not very bright or an “enemy within”. Remember when truth is on our side we won’t be dissuaded from our mission no matter how much BS you write on here.

    Truth is spreading like wildfire and nothing you or BaWRECK “The Bastard” will put out this fire.

    Let Freedom Ring.

  104. it says:
    “Obama was born with UKC Citizenship admits it himself and it’s obvious because his father was only ever a Kenyan (at the time Kenya was a British colony) (http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/does_barack_obama_have_kenyan_citizenship.html) i.e. born with dual citizenship which makes him not a natural born US citizen by its very definition (jus soli jus sanguinus). The Constitution is based on British Common Law which defines a NBC the same way as does Barack Obama himself as cosponsor of Senate Resolution 511. It’s obvious Barack Obama has never been a Natural Born US Citizen, all of the obfuscation has to do with confusing the public about Article II’s requirements for POTUS; they mainly think that any US Citizen is eligible as POTUS, but Article II is highly specific as to NBC eligibility requirements for POTUS. “

  105. I listen to Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity, Many who post comments on the blogs. They all ask every time Obama does some new anti American act, or makes a decision that is in contradiction to everything we have learned about keeping America safe: “Isn’t that weakening America’s defense and making us look weak to our enemy? He isn’t very smart.”

    Obama is very smart. Weaken America to aid his friends–our enemies in taking over America is precisely what he is step by step, plan after plan is doing right before America’s blind eyes.

    Time is of the essence. Obama pack is moving faster and more effectively than WE the People.
    The most powerful weapon we can use against him right now is a birthday party rally. When asked why we are thowing a birthday party when it is not his birthday, then you can answer: Since he won’t produce his real birth certificate we are not sure when his real birthday is. So why not celebrate his birthday now? Send him birthday cards and ask him to prove he is really eligible to be president under the US Constitution? This will rattle their cage louder than anything else we can do!

    Get your free copies of the pocket constitution at http://www.usapatriots-shout.blogspot.com

  106. Department of Justice to Observe National Crime Victims’ Rights Week

    Attorney General to Host Prelude Events in Washington, DC on Thursday, April 23, and Friday, April 24

    Attorney General Eric Holder will host the Department of Justice’s National Crime Victims’ Rights Week prelude events on Thursday, April 23, and Friday, April 24, 2009. This year’s theme, “25 Years of Rebuilding Lives: Celebrating the Victims of Crime Act,” brings attention to the progress made in serving victims of crime. Both events are open to the public; however, registration is required. To register visit: http://www.ncvrw.org.


    WHO: Eric Holder, Attorney General
    Laurie O. Robinson, Acting Assistant Attorney General, OJP
    Joye E. Frost, Acting Director, Office for Victims of Crime, OJP
    Jeffrey E. Taylor, U.S. Attorney for the District of Columbia
    Quincy A. Lucas, Founder and President, Witney’s Lights, Inc.

    WHERE: U.S. Chamber of Commerce
    Hall of Flags
    1615 H Street, N.W.
    Washington, DC


    WHEN: THURSDAY, APRIL 23, 2009
    6:30 P.M. EDT

    Government-credentialed media may arrive and set up as early as 5:30 p.m. Equipment vans should proceed to the loading dock on I Street side. Press inquiries regarding logistics should be directed to Michelle Person at 202-305-7381.


    WHO: Eric Holder, Attorney General
    Laurie O. Robinson, Acting Assistant Attorney General, OJP
    Joye E. Frost, Acting Director, Office for Victims of Crime, OJP
    Recipients of National Crime Victims’ Rights Service Awards

    WHERE: Andrew W. Mellon Auditorium
    1301 Constitution Avenue, N.W.
    Washington, DC


    WHEN: FRIDAY, APRIL 24, 2009
    1:30 P.M. EDT

    Government-credentialed media may arrive and set up as early as 12:30 P.M. Press inquiries regarding logistics should be directed to Michelle Person at 202-305-7381.


    If she cannot make it, she should make arrangements to have some on her behalf to attend along with a large number of supporters.


  107. War Hero, I am no obot. I have been posting on this site since before the election. I also blog at Orly’s site, Donofrio’s site,as well as, jbjd, Americas Right, The Right Side of Life, Keyes site, and many others. My opinion has always been, that Barry Soetoro is a fraud, and a usurper. I also believe his grandma, in Kenya, when she says, he was born in Kenya. I posted the wiki article, to show what wiki had to say, on the issue of, Barry’s citizenship. Wiki says he was born, a British citizen, under the British Nationality Act of 1948. I have always said, if he was born British, he can not be a Natural Born Citizen of the United States, and is not eligible to be President of the USA, and should have never been on the ballot.

  108. TO:: bob strauss // April 21, 2009 at 11:07 pm

    I know stuff can be misinterpreted. From what I read you were stating that there were Presidents that were Born British.
    “Check out our “British born Presidents” on wiki. I don’t know how to link to the site but here it is. ”

    I guess it was a bad choice of words on your part.
    We have had no British Born Presidents…that is until now with BaWRECK “The Bastard”.

    OK thanks for clearing that up.

  109. http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/publications/id.1614/pub_detail.asp
    Someone please read this,it’s an attorney talking about this in October 2008.If it helps?

  110. http://peoplespassions.org/
    Another awesome link to alot!Look and scroll down to how many other sites to your right!Amazing!

  111. And we know from Donofrio’s work that Chester Arthur, the other president born under British citizenship was a usurper who hid his parentage.

  112. War Hero, I always get in trouble with my sarcastic comments, some people take me too seriously, because they don’t understand, my attempt at humor. Alan Keyes, should have been Americas first black President. I could sleep well at night knowing Keyes was in charge, instead of the usurper. I don’t know how the military can stand it with Soetoro in the Whitehouse, usurping the commander in chief, of the armed forces.

  113. Even if courageous Dr. Taitz personally confronts Holder and Taylor it doesn’t mean they won’t give her the fast caping RESPONSE as they have done to her in her quo Warranto filings. These thugs are lawless and respect nothing and no one save that which may publicly expose them.

    TIME IF OF THE ESSENCE–WE ARE RUNNING OUT OF TIME! Please check out what I received in my e-mail less than an hour ago:

    teamsarah.org ^ | 4/21/2009 | Paul Joseph Watson
    Posted on Wednesday, April 22, 2009 12:24:19 AM by Leader_Of_The _Conservatives
    Former presidential candidate Alan Keyes has given perhaps his most dire warning yet, saying that the Obama administration is preparing to stage terror attacks, declare martial law and cancel the 2012 elections, which is why they are demonizing their political enemies as criminals and terrorists.

    Keyes is best known for his performance during the 2000 Republican presidential debates, when he was accredited by many media outlets as being the clear winner during a series of debates with George W. Bush and John McCain.

    “It’s obvious that they will stop at nothing,” Keyes told attendees of a reception in Fort Wayne, adding, “We may wake up one day and there’s a series of terrorist attacks, the economy is paralysed….martial law will be declared everywhere in the United States and it won’t end until the crisis ends.”

    Keyes said that Americans should be thankful if they even see another election in 2012, stating, “If we don’t wake up and work to see that it happens, we will not see another election.”

    “The minute they think they can get away with it, they will end this system of government and that is their intention,” added Keyes, noting that everyone acting as if the time we are in was just “business as usual” reminds him of the attitude of politicians in the Weimar Republic when Hitler was rising to power or eastern Europe when the Communists were taking over after the second world war.

    Keyes said that because the majority of people are decent-minded, they believe others will play by the rules when this simply isn’t the case, warning that this attitude will allow evil to take over before we can do anything about it.

    “It is so clear hat we have now put a faction in place – they are not playing by the rules and they don’t intend to play by the rules – if they were playing by the rules they wouldn’t have tried to identify their opposition as criminals,” added Keyes, making reference to the recent controversy surrounding the release of the MIAC and Homeland Security reports, which implied that Americans who exercise and are knowledgeable about their constitutional rights are a threat to law enforcement and potential domestic terrorists.

    Keyes said that the only solution was from the bottom up because our leaders “are so gutless that they won’t even ask that the Constitution be enforced for clear, plain, absolutely unequivocal requirements,” and respond meekly with “their lips shut and their hearts terrorized.”

    Keyes also warned of Obama’s agenda to create a civilian security force and said it was part of the ultimate agenda to disarm American citizens and create a police state.

    Keyes has been a vocal critic of Obama, warning that he is a radical Communist who is determined to destroy America, and that if his agenda is not stopped then the country as we know it will cease to exist.


    America must unite –at 66,000,ooo strong unite. If people can’t even unite and agree on a single, simple, point of action on this web site how are we going to unite and defeat Obama and restore America to the Republic which she NO LONGER IS! HOW MANY NEIGHBORS WILL HAVE TO DISAPPEAR IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT BEFORE WHAT IS LEFT OF PATRIOTS STOP WASTING TIME AND TAKE ACTION. How much time do you think we have left to speak freely on these inter net web sites before they are shut down, and we are hunted down and disappear?



  114. More news on the DHS “report”:


    I think this sums things up nicely for how incompetant the DHS is. Your tax dollars at work again: focus on hard working law-abiding citizens instead of protecting us from the real threats. Nice.

  115. http://www.tulsatoday.com/newsdesk/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1799&Itemid=2
    Read this one!We got to stand up!I pray everyday and everynight!Could this be why?
    Never seen this article before.

  116. As I mentioned over at THRSOL, why even bother with the long form?

    Just ask the DoH in Hawaii to send a copy of what Soetoro posted on the Internet to the National Archives for us to inspect. If the one he posted is forged, it would be quite evident, don’t you think?

    No matter, he’s not eligible for other obvious reasons, but it does make for some good entertainment when we keep irritating Soetoro like this.

  117. http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/
    Tuesday, April 21, 2009
    IMPORTANT: Grand Juries don’t need Judicial approval –
    Geez! This is so powerful and straight to the point. No kidding, Grand Juries have the power to subpoena!

    Patriot Grand Jurors need look no further than Bill of Rights to find their Supreme Right to form Citizen Grand Juries with or without Judicial approval.

    In the First Amendment, we the People are given the unalienable right “peaceably to assemble and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”

    In the Ninth Amendment, it is unequivocally stated that, “The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

    In the Tenth Amendment, it is clearly stated, “The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution…are reserved…to the people.

    What does that mean in the context of the power of Citizen Grand Jurors?

    Simply stated it means that Citizens can form Grand Juries with or without the consent of any branch of the Judiciary, Federal or State. Furthermore, it means that any and all Federal or State Rules or Laws of Criminal Procedure are unconstitutional to the extent that they limit the formation of Citizen Grand Juries to prior or post approval by any Branch of the Judiciary, Federal or State.

    It gets better for the Power of the People over their Judiciary in the Eleventh Amendment, “The Judicial power of the United States shall not be construed to extend to any suit in law or equity, commenced or prosecuted against one the United States by Citizen of another State…”

    In reading the Eleventh Amendment as it pertains to Citizens Grand Juries, one must remember the legal context under which it was written. At the time of the ratification of the Eleventh Amendment, most Criminal prosecutions were commenced by Citizens utilizing the services of private Citizen Attorneys.

    Seen in its true, original context, the Eleventh Amendment clearly states that Citizens can form Federal or State Grand Juries without interference by the Federal Government.

    Furthermore, the Citizen Grand Juries can subpoena any and all of Barack Hussein Obama’s personal records held in any State or Federal Government Office or Department and said Office or Department is compelled by the Supreme Law of the Land, Our Constitution, to produce said records for said Grand Juries.

    Remember Patriots, the case against Barack Hussein Obama will be over in Discovery, therefore, let us commence with Our Discovery of the Truth regarding the suspect commonly known to us Citizens as Barack Hussein Obama of unknown Citizenship, Allegiance and Alliances.

    “Leo the Lawyer”
    * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
    The subpoena will be issued to the entity that holds the records; State of Hawaii, Occidental, Columbia, Harvard, State Department, etc.

    Of course Obama will challenge it. My advisors say don’t worry because then it goes straight to SCOTUS upon Original Jurisdiction and the Patriots will win.

    No questions about standing, No sanctions. No dismissals, Nada. Straight win in SCOTUS. We have the United States Constitution on our side and that is the Supreme Law of the Land.

  118. I’m confused about this grand jury thing? I thought Donofrio said it would not work,etc…So now there is enough of a legal process to allow discovery without disobeying the Constitution to bring before proper authorities (i.e.federal prosecutors)to enforce an attempt at removal?Have I got this right?The posting above is saying that they really can legally get a suphoena?

  119. Have you seen this recent article?


    Freddie Mac CFO found dead
    Police say there are no signs of ‘foul play’ in the death of David Kellermann.

    “VIENNA, Va. (CNN) — The acting chief financial officer of mortgage finance giant Freddie Mac, David Kellermann, was found dead Wednesday morning, police said.

    The death “may have been an apparent suicide,” said Lucy Caldwell, a spokeswoman for police in Fairfax County, Va.

    Authorities said there were no signs of foul play when officers were called to Kellermann’s home in Vienna shortly before 5 a.m. ET, Caldwell said.

    The exterior of Kellermann’s brick home was quiet later Wednesday morning, according to video from the scene. A police officer left the home, and two black vehicles were parked in front.

    Sharon McCail, Freddie Mac’s vice president for public relations, said the company has not yet been officially notified that Kellermann is dead.

    Kellermann, 41, who also served as a senior vice president, had been with Freddie Mac (FRE, Fortune 500) for more than 16 years.

    He was named to the CFO and senior vice president positions in September 2008, and was responsible for the company’s financial controls. This included overseeing financial reporting, compliance with tax requirements and regulations, and annual budgeting and financial planning. …”

    He was 41 and commiting suicide at a time when Freddie Mac received a substantial amount of bailout money… ?

  120. ABC News said Kellermann was founding hanging in the basement of his home.

  121. TO:: Portuguese Rev War Hero. You’re right, executing people who are in Obama’s way is more than creepy. It is sociopathic banana republic stuff. Is this what we’ve come to? I, too, distribute pocket constitutions wherever I go. People have forgotten the glory from whence we came.

    TO:: David A. I’ve seen the video of the undercover FBI agent about that meeting of the Weather Underground leadership that you’re referring to. I know that the depravity of the numbers of un-reducatable Americans who would have to be exterminated (those who could not be helped in the Re-education Camps) seems obscene at 250,000. But the actual estimate by Ayers, et al, in that meeting that I remember was that they would have to exterminate about 25,000,000. And first they would let the Vietnamese, Chinese and Russians determine which parts of the USA they would control. I guess they’d subsitute Cuba and Venezuela for Vietnam now.

    We have a Marxist Communist Usurper in the White House. And three years and 10 months to go. Given the damage already inflicted by this man, it is unimaginable where we will be at the end of his term.

  122. Air Force Brat

    Magna Carta — keep in mind, Leo is not the be-all and end-all of the legal universe. Just because he says something doesn’t make it so.

  123. Air Force Brat

    I meant Leo Donofrio — just wanted to clarify!

  124. This was in my e-mail this morning!

    Do you want Barack Hussein Obama and his cronies to have the power to

    Dear Friend of the Constitution,

    That’s EXACTLY what’s about to happen, if Congress passes two new bills… Unless YOU help to stop them!


    According to news reports, two new Senate bills — S. 773 and S. 778 — “would grant the White House sweeping new powers to access private online data, regulate the cybersecurity industry and even shut down Internet traffic during a declared ‘cyber emergency.'”

    These two new bills are both part of what’s being called the “Cybersecurity Act of 2009.”The Act would create a new bureaucracy, the “Office of the National Cybersecurity Advisor,”which would be charged with “defending the country from cyber attack”… and would report directly to Barack Obama.

    But that’s not all it would do: it would also grant the Secretary of Commerce access to all privately owned information networks deemed to be “critical”to the nation’s infrastructure, “without regard to any provision of law, regulation, rule or policy restricting such access.”

    Did you read that? The Secretary of Commerce, reporting directly to Mr. Obama, would be able to snoop through ANYTHING connected to the Internet that a President decides is “critical”to look at. And it doesn’t matter what the law says — they get to do this whenever and wherever a President wants them to.

    Talk about UNCONSTITUTIONAL! We MUST NOT let Barack Obama’s cronies in Congress get away with this!


    The Fourth Amendment to the United States Constitution states:

    “The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.”

    It’s clear: giving the U.S. Department of Commerce oversight of the “critical” networks — like banking records — would give the federal government access to confidential, private information obtained without cause or warrant, which is a CLEAR violation of the U.S. Constitution’s prohibition against unlawful search and seizure!

    What exactly are these “critical infrastructure networks”that Barack Obama would have the power to “take offline”whenever he wants to? The examples they give are things like “banking, utilities, air/rail/auto traffic control, and telecommunications.”

    WHAT??? Exactly HOW do you take the telecommunications networks off of the Internet, when that’s what the Internet is comprised of? And if YOUR bank gets taken offline, don’t you think you might go into your branch and ask for all of your deposits in cash? Don’t you think EVERYONE might do that?


    According to one Senate document that attempts to “explain”the bills, this Act “addresses our country’s unacceptable vulnerability to massive cyber crime, global cyber espionage and cyber attacks that could cripple our critical infrastructure.”

    In a statement explaining the bill’s introduction, liberal Democratic West Virginia U. S. Senator Jay Rockefeller said, “We must protect our critical infrastructure at all costs — from our water to our electricity, to banking, traffic lights and electronic health records — the list goes on.”

    Senator Olympia Snowe, a liberal Republican from Maine who is co-sponsoring the bill, gave us this dire warning: “If we fail to take swift action, we, regrettably, risk a cyber-Katrina.”

    In other words, we need to give up our freedoms and liberties in order for the government to give us “security.”

    What was it that Benjamin Franklin once said? “Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.”


    Why would anyone push such a bill? Two reasons: power and money.

    The far-left Democrats who now control our government are willing to stop at nothing to give themselves more and more and more power, as well as control over our private lives! And they’re backed by law enforcement and people in the security industry who want to ensure more government dollars go to them.

    Politicians and lobbyists want to take away our Constitutional rights — we need to make sure they FAIL. And we’ve got a GREAT way to do that!

    We’ve set up a website where you can send “blast faxes”to EVERY SINGLE MEMBER OF CONGRESS, telling them to say NO to this attempt to take over the entire internet! For less that what it would cost you to gather every fax number and send all those faxes yourself, you can send HUNDREDS of faxes, ALL AT ONCE to Capitol Hill — to make SURE they hear your voice!

    BUT… we have to act QUICKLY! BOTH of these bills have already been read twice and have been referred to committee in the Senate! SEND YOUR FAXES NOW!


    Don’t let Barack Obama get away with this power grab — let’s take action right away!


    Gary Kreep, Executive Director
    Republican Majority Campaign PAC

    P.S. These new bills would give a President “emergency authority”to halt web traffic and access private data — in other words, to shut down the Internet and snoop into YOUR computer. We CANNOT let Congress give anyone this kind of dictatorial power! Send your faxes NOW!



    This “suicide” of someone seemingly at the top of their life and career who just got a promotion in Sept 2008 is at least Suspicious on it’s own. When you add in the assassination of Donald Young and others in Chicago and then the murder of Lt. investigating the “passport fraud” one starts to see a suspicious web of criminality that reminds me of the early days of the Clinton barrage of murder/suicides.

    There ahs to be an INDEPENDENT investigation. Reporters need to dig deep and talk to family, associates and friends. I suspect this man was sounding the alarm on the PONZI SCHEME that the FAILOUTS are, just like Mark Markopoulos did with Madoff.

    Madoff was small change compared to the PONZI SCHEME the LIEberal Erosionist CONgress and their Pirate President are doing.
    Corrupt Pirate Politics are not just off the coast of E Africa there is bigger Piracy in DC.

    PS Did anyone notice the footage of the Smiling Pirate paraded in front of the cameras? Did anyone notice the LIEberal ACLU anti-america BaWRECK type lawyers? George Bush was right these TERRORISTS should never be anywhere near our media or our Citizen Courts. Tribunals are needed, terroristic piracy on the sea are acts of War not man made Robin Hood volunteer money exchanges (contributions) for the poor. Especially to countries that we already give alot to.
    I just found out that USA gives more Aid to Cuba than the next 3 combined and we have an embargo. Ron Paul is right we should take care of our own and make them appreciate what we do by giving them NOTHING.

  126. Obama showed his hand this week when The New York Times wrote that he is considering converting the stock the government owns in our country’s banks from preferred stock, which it now holds, to common stock.

    This seemingly insignificant change is momentous. It means that the federal government will control all of the major banks and financial institutions in the nation. It means socialism.

    The Times dutifully dressed up the Obama plan as a way to avoid asking Congress for more money for failing banks. But the implications of the proposal are obvious to anyone who cares to look.

    When the Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP) intervention was first outlined by the Bush administration, it did not call for any transfer of stock, of any sort, to the government. The Democrats demanded, as a price for their support, that the taxpayers “get something back” for the money they were lending to the banks. House Republicans, wise to what was going on, rejected the administration’s proposal and sought, instead, to provide insurance to banks, rather than outright cash. Their plan would, of course, not involve any transfer of stock. But Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) undercut his own party’s conservatives and went along with the Democratic plan, ensuring its passage.

    But to avoid the issue of a potential for government control of the banks, everybody agreed that the stock the feds would take back in return for their money would be preferred stock, not common stock. “Preferred” means that these stockholders get the first crack at dividends, but only common stockholders can actually vote on company management or policy. Now, by changing this fundamental element of the TARP plan, Obama will give Washington a voting majority among the common stockholders of these banks and other financial institutions. The almost 500 companies receiving TARP money will be, in effect, run by Washington.

    And whoever controls the banks controls the credit and, therefore, the economy. That’s called socialism.

  127. moving stock from preferred to common was not in the bill originally, nor approved by Congress.

    yet again another blatent violation of the constitution.

    the executive branch has no business doing business in the stock market


  128. With all the traitors to the United States making their rounds in the press, Congress, and the White House, there will be a shortage of trees in Washington.

    That is, once all the trials are finished.

  129. Birth certificate is a diversion.
    natural born citizen = 2 US citizen parents at birth + born on US soil
    case of first impression-courts need to rule based on facts and will find him ineligible.

    He can be removed by quo warranto by US Attorney for DC (Jeffrey Taylor). Congress has delegated this court under fed code to bring any case of ineligibility – it is Congress’ duty under separation of powers and they have delegated it to the DC District Court.

    Please write Jeff Taylor and request quo warranto be brought. It is the only option to remove ineligible public official, including presidents.
    thank you.

  130. Portuguese Hero Francisco,

    Well, that doesn’t sound too persuasive to me, sorry.

    If indeed Obama does come up with a forged long-form BC, I’ll bet he’ll move heaven and earth to avoid having to submit it in court, where experts will pounce on it and be able to expose it in a few hours.

    Of course, outside court, a forgery will be invaluable public relations–he will be able to say, “Those ‘birthers’ are not satisfied no matter what you do!”

    It will be all the more crucial for Obama to prevent the eligibility suits from being heard on the merits.

  131. Portuguese Hero Francisco,

    Well, that doesn’t sound too persuasive to me, sorry.

    If indeed Obama does come up with a forged long-form BC, I’ll bet he’ll move heaven and earth to avoid having to submit it in court, where experts will pounce on it and be able to expose it in a few hours.

    Of course, outside court, a forgery will be invaluable public relations–he will be able to say, “Those ‘birthers’ are not satisfied no matter what you do!”

    It will be all the more crucial for Obama to prevent the eligibility suits from being heard on the merits.

  132. Air Force Brat
    Yes I agree,everyone has a different approach and I think thats healthy.I guess when I read his name at the bottom of a piece describing a new tact on the Grand Jury,knowing he had done research on this before and that he objected to the GA. effort,I was trying to understand if he supported the recent effort as laid out on The Steady Drip.I could not recall what feature of that effort he opposed so strongly.Just trying to get it all straight,thats all.

  133. David Kellerman, CFO of Freddie Mac foud dead handing in basement of his home. Police claim it is an apparent suicide.

    The body count is beginning! The time to stop non productive chatter and begin postitive action is now. Time is of the essence.

    In large unified mass via “Obama birthday party” or other, the public must demand Obama prove his presidential eligibilty.

    Time is of the essence.

    Free US Constitutions go to http://www.usapatriots-shout.blogspot.com

  134. word is hanging not handing. I am the world’s worst proof reader!

  135. Theresa, great idea massive surprise bday idea..

    let’s set a date. May day may day mayday

    our country is in distress. May first

  136. GREAT idea cq! Distress call = May day = May 1

    I was hoping the suprise bday party wouldn’t be in August (BO bday) cuz hopefully he will be outta here before then!

    God Bless America

  137. Can the B-Day parties get organized thoroughly enough for May 1st?

  138. Air Force Brat

    Magna — it’s all good, I knew what you meant.

    So many other people on various blogs, though, read his posts and think “oh my God, Leo says it won’t work, and he’s the only one who knows anything, so it’s futile to even try”. He seems to change course in mid-stream a lot also, and to throw his hands in the air and quit whenever there’s any obstacle whatsoever.

  139. how about May 21st Accenssion day

    Accession Day
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    An Accession Day is the anniversary of the date on which a monarch succeeds to the throne upon the death of the previous monarch. The custom of marking this day was inaugurated during the reign of Queen Elizabeth I of England, and was first observed as a day of national festivities on 17 November 1570. The inhabitants of Berry Pomeroy in south Devon still commemorate Queene’s Day with a special church service and bonfire. The Accession Day of Queen Elizabeth II is 6 February, and is observed throughout her countries by the flying of specific flags and various official functions.

    Accession is also a term for the process by which a state becomes incorporated into a federation; for example, the joining of countries into the European Union.

  140. New Energy Bill Could Mean Lights-Out for American Business

    this is sickkkkk


  141. It Is Not About Obama’s Birth–It is About Proving He Is Illegal–Then Everything He has done Since The Day He Took Office Can Be Null and Void!

    (This is an old article, but I think it clarifies why I keep harping on the eligibility issue)

    Impeachment Petitions and Tea Parties are Not Enough!

    We are all mad as hell and don’t want to take it any more. One night we fell asleep secure in the knowledge we were in the United States of America. The next morning we woke up to the madness of an Obama raping, violating, and destroying America at tornado speed. We discovered we have been betrayed by both the government and MSM who suppressed vital facts that would have prevented the horror we our now facing. Nothing in American history has ever prepared Americans to either prevent or stop the treasonous crimes and total destruction from within America is now facing. This is war. We the people are being defeated into enslavement. It is a particularly heinous war because the enemy is our own government, and the strategists, aggressors and many enemies are nearly invisible. They are hiding in the closets, backrooms and cesspools all over the planet. Our only proof they exist are Obama, a usurper in the Whitehouse and the laws, bills they are passing against Americans and their clear objective of destroying America through bankruptcy, a weakening of America’s defense, and the absolute control over our free speech and right to bear arms. These are all symptoms of a government transition from Republic to dictatorship.

    When many voters began to realize we needed more information about this strange new Democratic candidate from no where than we were getting from MSM, we began searching the inter net. What came forward was a composite of extremely negative information which led to more questions that we soon learned all information had been sealed. That in itself would have been enough information for rational voters to not vote for Obama. Nothing about this election was rational.

    We began venting our suspicions and frustrations on the blogs. Soon a very clear picture came forward as described in the first paragraph. Obama is an imposter supported by an invisible enemy. Now, many brave patriots are stepping forward in many ways to protest America’s destruction. The states are declaring their sovereignty. Philip Berg, Leo Donofrio, Dr. Orly Taitz, and others have brought and are bringing law suits demanding Obama release his sealed documents. Attorney Stephen Pidgeon is spearheading a NATIONAL GRAND JURY. We The People Foundation, CUSC.Org, Citizenwells, USAPatriots-shout and thousands of others have web sites working hard to keep information coming forward. The advice is everything from say “we want to impeach Obama, to write to your Congressman, Senator, or state representative and tell them we don’t want the stimulus plan, or the new budget, or the. . . . .” Finally a group—The Tea Party has found a very innovative way to protest the government.

    I couldn’t agree more the idea of PROTEST. The louder, more persistent, and passionate the protest is, the better. Protest by millions of letters. Send them to the Supreme Court, to congress, to the media, to your Senators, and whomever else necessary. Make signs and gather groups and protest loud and clear on every street corner, in front of every TV station and newspaper office. Tell the world—“Hell no! We won’t take it any more.”
    Write with all your blood and guts on the blogs and send copies to editors or the press and every news castor and TV station you can think of. Throw as many tea parties as you can—everywhere, as often, as loud. Let’s continue to do so until every one in America—Republicans, Democrats, Independents, patriots get on the same page—remove Obama, the usurper from office and restore America to the Republic under the US Constitution.

    However, I want to be clear on two issues.

    1. Be absolutely certain however you choose to protest is honest and lawful. Do nothing that will give any adversary an opportunity to discredit or use the law in some way to harm or make you look guilty for something you have not done.

    2. Do not put the cart before the horse. This means do not credit, acknowledge, or validate Obama’s illegal presidency in any manner. All protests must be first directed to A. A is A as Aristotle would say. What I am trying to say is—protesting anything Obama does as President-putting the control of the census bureau in Rahm Emanuel’s power, his stinkulus and all spending plans, his funding of Acorn, his housing recovery plans, and the rest of his evil ad sick-a-nitum agenda to diminish America is dumb. What I mean is—if people protest Obama’s actions without protesting his legality to be president, they are inadvertently making his imposter role as president legal by acknowledging him as president which he is not.

    Protesting Obama’s bills is a waste of time and energy because it only prolongs the main issue—Obama’s legality as president. Therefore, if all protestors focused on the one and only main issue—Obama’s legality as President then chances of getting him removed as a usurper are stronger. Once removed so will everything he did as president be declared illegal and unenforceable. Thus will have to be retracted. So all the issues he has created will automatically disappear once Obama is declared a usurper. For this reason, I disagree with the Tea Party Group who only protested Obama’s spending plan and not the fact Obama is a usurper. The Tea Party group needs to focus not on Obama’s issues but on his legitimacy as president. Those who claim “Impeach Obama” need to replace that with arrest Obama. Under the law, a usurper can not be “impeached” as he is not the legal president—he must be arrested. Therefore all protests in order to be truly effective need to concentrate on A. Obama is not a legal president.

    Since Dr. Vieira explains better than I ever could, l include these excerpts from his wonderful article “Stand Up or Step Down.”

    “Fourth, if he turns out to be nothing but an usurper acting in the guise of “the President,” Obama will not constitutionally be the “Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States” (see Article II, Section 2, Clause 1). Therefore, he will be entitled to no obedience whatsoever from anyone in those forces. Indeed, for officers or men to follow any of his purported “orders” will constitute a serious breach of military discipline—and in extreme circumstances perhaps even “war crimes.” In addition, no one in any civilian agency in the Executive Branch of the General Government will be required to put into effect any of Obama’s purported “proclamations,” “executive orders,” or “directives.”

    Fifth, as nothing but an usurper (if he becomes one), Obama will have no conceivable authority “to make Treaties”, or to “nominate, and * * * appoint Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, Judges of the Supreme Court, and all other Officers of the United States, whose Appointments are not * * * otherwise provided for [in the Constitution]” (Article II, Section 2, Clause 2). And therefore any “Treaties” or “nominat[ions], and * * * appoint[ments]” he purports to “make” will be void ab initio, no matter what the Senate does, because the Senate can neither authorize an usurper to take such actions in the first place, nor thereafter ratify them. One need not be a lawyer to foresee what further, perhaps irremediable, chaos must ensue if an usurper, even with “the Advice and Consent of the Senate”, unconstitutionally “appoint[s] * * * Judges of the Supreme Court” whose votes thereafter make up the majorities that wrongly decide critical “Cases” of constitutional law.
    “Seventh, if Obama does become an usurper posturing as “the President,” Congress cannot even impeach him because, not being the actual President, he cannot be “removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors” (see Article II, Section 4). In that case, some other public officials would have to arrest him—with physical force, if he would not go along quietly—in order to prevent him from continuing his imposture. Obviously, this could possibly lead to armed conflicts within the General Government itself, or among the States and the people.”

    The underlying problem will not be obviated if Obama, his partisans in the Democratic Party, and his cheerleaders and cover-up artists in the big media simply stonewall the issue of his (non)citizenship and contrive for him to win the Presidential election. The cat is already out of the bag and running all over the Internet. If he continues to dodge the issue, Obama will be dogged with this question every day of his purported “Presidency.” And inevitably the truth will out. For the issue is too simple, the evidence (or lack of it) too accessible. Either Obama can prove that he is “a natural born Citizen” who has not renounced his citizenship; or he cannot. And he will not be allowed to slip through with some doctored “birth certificate” generated long after the alleged fact.
    On a matter this important, Americans will demand that, before its authenticity is accepted, any supposed documentary evidence of that sort be subjected to reproducible forensic analyses conducted by reputable, independent investigators and laboratories above any suspicion of being influenced by or colluding with any public official, bureaucracy, political party, or other special-interest organization whatsoever.”

    Dr. Vieira wrote this before the election. I believe even he could not fantasize that the Supreme Court and MSM would have allowed an issue as vitally important to America to get this far. Now all we have left after being betrayed by Congress, Senate, MSM, and the Supreme Court is us—WE the People. That is why it is so important we get it right. Time is of the essence. The longer Obama is in office, the harder it will be to undue all the damage he is doing. Therefore we must focus our energy and protests on the main issue. We must unite in one voice and one message.


  142. Jacqlyn Smith

    I think the next tea party should be on Memorial Day….honoring our veterans and the oath keepers…..see their site…..they have pledged to stand up for the citizens and against the government if they order attack on us!!!! Memorial Day is May 25th…I think a tea party should be planned for each month until the USURPER and his cabinet are thrown out of office~~~

  143. Jan,

    The birth certificate really is a diversion. However, Soetoro’s signatures in several states where he claimed he was a “Natural Born Citizen” when he knows he isn’t is Fraud with a capital “F”. The COLB and fraud go hand in hand. That opens the door up for Discovery.

    Here is the mounting evidence of Fraud:

    1. Signing under the name of Obama when his legal name is Soetoro (evidence: response to plaintiff using the name Soetoro in Hollister v Soetoro)
    2. Two forgery experts who have cited anomalies in the online COLB’s (Martin v. Lingle and Polarik).
    3. Paternal grandmother stating he was born in Kenya
    4. Confusion over which hospital he was born in.
    5. Refusal to allow inspection of the original Birth Certificate
    6. Admitting to being a British Subject at Birth and admitting to dual citizenship

    Once that happens, bye-bye Bam-Bam.

  144. Hello Therese and JeffM,

    Regarding your most recent posts, there’s a new lawsuit up from PA:


  145. Eagle

    Wow, sounds like he has met his match. Makes me want to move to AZ and help…..

    Wonder if the CEO was found with his hands tied behind his back hanging. The body count is rising in Obama’s wake.

  146. Therese Daniels,

    I agree with your statement!

    Folks need to “STOP” legitimizing his Presidency by protesting his actions. All this does is give legitimacy to his eligibility.

    People are protesting big government and taxes (which needs to be done), but we need to seriously start protesting his citizenship issue.

    If as many people get organized and protest his citizenship issues, as they did the tea party, he’ll have to prove his status.

    It just can’t go ignored once that happens.

  147. Having read the part of the post relating to the fully functional press, you need to know that the name of the press manufacturer is NOT Heidelberger; it is Heidelberg. That said the company has built both letterpresses, and offset presses. The alleged press could be either type. Who ever is attempting to counterfeit the vault certificate,will need to know if the ORIGINAL was run on a letterpress, or offsett press. There is a very recognisable difference, to a trained printer. But just to clear the air a little,in letterpress the image is transferred directly to the paper from mechanical lead or plastic relief type. An offsett press utilises a flat metal or paper plate on which the image which is to be printed exists. The image is added to the plate by means of PHOTOMECHANICAL reproduction. In the last 10 years special laser equipment has been developed which has greatly simplified the pre press operations which includes platemaking. However it requires SKILLED operators. You cannot be a scumbag from Joes PUB,with NO skill or understanding of printing, and expect to produce a copy which is supposed to fool EVERYBODY. I am betting that if all of this is true then they have some little creep who barely knows where the ON/OFF switch is let alone know anything about ink water balance, ink tack, acid ph, form inking, ink transfer, impression cylinder pressure Etc EtcEtc. I am wondering if the alleged press operator knows what a CUOIN is. or a cuoin key is. He will need to know what a chase is also. I eonder if he knows the correct dimension for “typ-hi”,or maybe what form rollers are, or what damper rollers do. He will also need to know what “SETT-OFF” is, because I predict that anything that they attempt to print will have an abundance of SETTOFF. This will nail the experience level of the person who actually attempts to print the form. Of course there is SOMETHING ELSE that will nail him even quicker. Dependent upon the type of Heidelberg press, I can tell you exactly what to look for. The other aspect of this is really important. You MUST have a 1961 long form blank, or another that was issued very close to the alleged birth date of Obama. This is so that it can be determined if it was produced on an offsett press, or letterpress. Once that is known for certain, then trapping the counterfeiter will be a piece of cake. Now I will discuss ink pigments used in the 1960s. First of all LETTERPRESS ink is just that. It will not work in an offsett press. Anyone who thinks they can will be wasting a lot of time and material. I will not tell why at this point. However I know exactly why. Regarding paper. In the 1960s there was special paper used as material to produce such documents. It varied somewhat from one state to another, but it was loosely called safety paper, or sometimes check paper. I have also heard it called basket weave safety paper, etc etc etc. It will be important to find another copy of the 1960s vault certificate so that the cehmical signature of the paper can be accurately determined. If the certificate which Obama offers has a different chemical signature it will be a FORGERY, without question. Again there is a key fact that I have left out that will shoot down the counterfeit once again. Also alkalinity, and silicone buildup are important. Anybody who thinks that they can fool trained people is chasing his tail. He is also risking a lengthy jail incarceration when he is caught.
    Anyone from the Citizen Wells blog I will be more than happy to educate regarding photo mechanical printing, and letterpress printing. I done ALL phases of it for over 40 years of my life,and have used just about every type of paper. Every type of paper has it’s own peculiarities,and signature. Skilled pressmen posess excellent knowledge of how paper behaves, in printing. If you want to know any particular aspect of it feel free to ask. If you can prove that you aren’t an OBOT, I will be happy to elaborate further. Just ask, and I will tell. We have to be careful we DO not want the Obama GOON squad ro know what I know, or might pass along in conversation. I am looking forward to seeing the final rendition. I am very eager to shoot holes in it. There is also definite ink characteristics, that is peculiar to every ink manufacturer. The age of ink is easily established, and whether it is formulated for offsett or letterpress . There is also a need to get a trained chemical analyst on board as well. One who will guarantee his work to be the truth,and accurate.
    While I have to assume that there is something to the story about someone trying to counterfeit the vault certificate,at the same time I know full well what is necessary to produce a printed piece that will fool everyone. Money counterfeiters have been trying to do it for a very long time While they might be sucessful in producing what they THINK is as good as the real stuff Uncle Sam knows the difference, and most of the hotshot counterfeiters are usually rounded up pretty quick. The same will apply to Barry Soetoro’s hotshot printer,because IKNOW THE DIFFERENCE!

  148. I have one question wasn’t the Freddie Mac CFO who was found dead Lil Barney’s deviate lover?

  149. I agree with Theresa and the South.

    Folks need to “STOP” legitimizing his Presidency by protesting his actions. All this does is give legitimacy to his eligibility.

    People are protesting big government and taxes (which needs to be done), but we need to seriously start protesting his citizenship issue.

    If as many people get organized and protest his citizenship issues, as they did the tea party, he’ll have to prove his status.

    It just can’t go ignored once that happens.

    Tea Parties every month!!

  150. Air Force Brat

    Oldsalt76 — thank you for your comprehensive knowledge and explanation re the potential forgery. The usurper and his buddies probably think everyone will accept whatever piece of paper they whip out as gospel truth, but they couldn’t be more wrong. One way or another, sooner or later, his goose is going to be cooked.

    Hope you are getting some degree of relief from your shingles. Wish I knew of some magical remedy to send your way.

  151. oldsalt76 // April 22, 2009 at 7:48 pm

    I have one question wasn’t the Freddie Mac CFO who was found dead Lil Barney’s deviate lover?

    Good question but Barney’s “buddy” was Herb Moses

  152. Let’s Do It—

    Let us commit to promoting the idea anywhere, everywhere to celebrating Obama’s Birthday on May 1, 2009 since Obama has refused to produce his birth certificate in spite of over 100 lawsuits asking him to do so, know one can be certain when his real birthday is.

    In order to get this idea out there and orchestrated it begins with you and me. Starting now, we need to post on every anti-Obama web site we can find, e-mail, write or call all our patriot friends, every tea party organizer of every state and say:

    Obama birthday party rally May 1, 2009 –you name the time and place.
    From now on we are sending Obama birthday cards asking him to please come to his birthday party with his birth certificate so we will know in the future when his correct birth date is.

    Do not be surprised if Fox news fails to give this rally as great a coverage—if any at all, as they did for the TAX DAY TEA PARTY RALLIES! All the more reason to hold an Obama Birthday party May 1, 2009. When it comes to getting responses to our demands for Obama to prove his right to be our president—all of Congress, Senate, the 9 non Supremes, and MSM shut up tighter than a clam. This rally will force all of them to acknowledge this “VERBOTEN” SUBJECT. If this is the one issue they have fought the hardest to avoid, suppress, and convolute the facts over, then this is the issue that is most vulnerable to them. This is their political jugular vein. Let We the People sever it. Let us ask and ask until it is resolved. Everything else has failed or if it will win—it will take too long. Time is of the essence!

    (We know it is not about the birth certificate—though a vault copy of the birth certificate is very important. It is about his presidential eligibility.)

    For your free pocket copy of the US Constitution go to http://www.usapatriots-shout.blogspot.com

  153. Have as many birthday parties as needed until Obama produces his proof he is eligible to be our president!

    What fun. We can eat cake! Light candles. Make wishes. I know what I would wish for. What would you wish for. Ah–birthday wishes We the people all desire!

  154. “magna carta // April 22, 2009 at 9:31 am

    I’m confused about this grand jury thing? I thought Donofrio said it would not work,etc…So now there is enough of a legal process to allow discovery without disobeying the Constitution to bring before proper authorities (i.e.federal prosecutors)to enforce an attempt at removal?Have I got this right?The posting above is saying that they really can legally get a suphoena?”

    Yes, on their own authority citizen’s grand juries can issue a subpoena. Of course Obama will challenge it. Some entities will be non-compliant. My advisers say don’t worry because then it goes straight to SCOTUS upon Original Jurisdiction and the Patriots will win.

    No questions about standing, No sanctions. No dismissals, Nada. Straight win in SCOTUS. We have the United States Constitution on our side and that is the Supreme Law of the Land.

    The Honorable Leo Donofrio, Esquire, was the Lawyer who first raised the concept of using Grand Juries.

    That Russia Lawyer did do some things that many if not most other Lawyers thought was as you say “contemptuous.”

    The GJ Leo D. took exception to was based on the Magna Carta and had some antiquated language that had to do with the GJ going after offenders with their own authority,

    The American Grand Jury has the U.S. Constitution as its premise And has nothing to do with the Russian attorney.

    See here for more info:


    And most of all read this:

    AKA Obama Fans: All together now – say OMG!!


  155. Theresa, Perhpas all belated b day cards or 4 year old boys or gay related.

    May 1st is do able, but must act quick

    do we have a physical address that all should be sent ? and signed for

  156. Belated, we missed your bday because we do not know when it is. LOL

  157. or christian baptism cards, since he was never baptised

  158. Beginning to wonder if this new ordeal with releasing Bush’s Top Secret papers isn’t a pay to play deal.

    I will stop Holder from moving forward if you promise not to release my COLB ??

    Just wondering??

  159. Air Force Brat…………..
    You did indeed read what I said correctly. You can make recently produced paper look old by utilising a number of processes, but NONE of the processes will duplicate exactly what was produced by age, and environmental attrition, which the paper was exposed to over the total of it’s life. Assuming that the paper was produced sometime in 1961 it has aged at atmospheric pressure, it has absorbed ALL normal atmospheric elements,and chemistry over the interim period. If the original type of paper is known it’s age can be accurately determined by the amount of chemistry absorbed, the depth that it has penetrated the paper, and the amount of silicone present in the paper. Silicone is a natural element that is present everywhere on earth, and bonds to everything it touches. This also is true even in closed spaces. As I said they can make the paper LOOK old but it is next to impossible to accelerate the natural aging process of new paper. It’s alkalinity, and acidity cannot be changed that quickly without upsetting the pulp bonding of the paper. All that is required is to test the alkalinity of the paper. Paper that has passed through an offsett press will show residual acidity. Usually a ph in the neighborhood of 2.3 or so. With time the paper becomes more alkaline. As this occurs it also becomes more brittle, and begins to acquire a yellowish cast. In short nobody has EVER been able to re-do mother nature’s work, EXACTLY as she has ALREADY done it over a SPECIFIC period of time. There are a few other factors but they are relatively unimportant. I hope that I have provided a little insight into paper characteristics. I had to learn most of this “HANDS ON”, over a lot of years. In offsett lithography when trouble strikes you have to use your gourd to solve the problems. Sometimes it is in fact a alkaline problem leaching out of the paper. In high speed presses it is not as much of a problem as it is in slower sheet fed presses. Most of the time high quality paper (free sheet) is never a problem. But in ground wood or NEWS PRINT ink emulsification can occur out of left field. With EXPERIENCE a trained operator learns what it causing it ,and what he needs to do to correct it. At the same time he learns a little more about the particular type of paper. Bonds paper rarely is a problem unless it is really old. Especially cotton content paper. Sometimes it will behave just like groundwood, especially if the pressroom temperature is elevated. Now you have a few years of offsett printing technological information. Should I now begin the course in letterpress printing? There is an awful lot to that.

  160. Some people think because nearly 100 law suits against Obama have failed we will never get Obama to produce his records or deal with this issue. The following is my response to those people who want to forget this issue or just plain give up.

    This is exactly what the Obama camp is hoping what will happen to this very vital Constitutional issue regarding Obama’s eligibility to be president under the US Constitution. It’s a game of who can hold out the longest before the issue will go away. Believe me, if Obama wins, America is lost forever. There have been over 100 law suits against Obama regarding this issue that have been dismissed by the courts on “standing” and not merit. Dr. Orly Taitz has used an old law called Quo Warranto to demand Obama prove his authority to be president. There have been grand jury indictments accusing Obama of specific criminal activates, and on and on. What all this proves is there is a corrupt Congress, Senate, Judicial system, and Supreme Court that is will to look the other way and pretend all is okay. IT IS EXACTLY BECAUSE THEY ARE DOING THIS WE MUST PROTEST, SEND BIRTHDAY CARDS, HOLD BIRTHDAY PARTY RALLIES, AND WHATEVER ELSE WE CAN THAT IS LEGAL AND CIVIL TO DEMAND OBAMA PROVE HE IS NOT A USURPER. IF WE JUST GO SOFT AND WHINE AND WIMPER LIKE WHIPPED PUPPY DOGS THAN WE NEVER AGAIN KNOW AMERICA AS A REPUBLIC UNDER THE RULE OF THE GREATEST DOCUMENT EVER WRITTEN BY MAN. I posted to essays today on this subject, I wonder if you read them or only my response to you.

    The tea parties forced the Obama supporters to reveal a weakness that we can now use to our advantage. They are terrified they just might be discovered. The issue of Obama’s legibility is Obama’s Political Jugular Vein. That is the very one we must sever. Nothing else. You can make a giant difference if you get behind this idea and tell every one and do what ever you can that this is what we need. Trust me as much as you love Sarah, she will never have a chance to run for office if we don’t get Obama out now. WE have seen the last presidential election that will ever be held in America. So what good will it do to spin your wheels on that which is only a fantasy if you get grasp the horrible reality of it all now?

    To those who asked where should people meet? Each group in each state who decideds to hold a birthday rally should decide that. Maybe our May 1, Rally might to be as successful as the the Tax Day Tea Party, but it might help get the next very happy un birthday Obama party going real strong when every one discovers how frightened the Obama camp will become.

  161. truthbetold11

    obama is using the christian statement by jesus ‘ a house divided by itself will not stand” He said in a fake sermon 2 years ago. He 100 percent knows that he is clearly dividing the the USA. So that you must chose sides “brother will betray brother to death children their parents” He’s studied the bible and is using christian values against us, notice all things he does is the opposite. I see clearly the evil being on full display, Jesus did say ‘ Don’t use evil to repay evil but overcome evil with good” So we have a lot of good to be doing asap!!

  162. redneck sympathizer

    Invaders will be hitting the streets in droves that day fighting for government-sanctioned takeover.

  163. Jacqlyn Smith


    Therese Daniels // April 22, 2009 at 8:05 pm

    Have as many birthday parties as needed until Obama produces his proof he is eligible to be our president!

    What fun. We can eat cake! Light candles. Make wishes. I know what I would wish for. What would you wish for. Ah–birthday wishes We the people all desire!

    Everyone should come to the party waving their own long form vault copies of their birth certificats and demand we see his!!!!

  164. truthbetold11 said:

    “obama is using the christian statement by jesus ‘ a house divided by itself will not stand” He said in a fake sermon 2 years ago. He 100 percent knows that he is clearly dividing the the USA. So that you must chose sides “brother will betray brother to death children their parents” He’s studied the bible and is using christian values against us, notice all things he does is the opposite. ”


    Of course. But one thing he’s not counting on is the country will divide into the liberal marxist side who wants the government to save them and the god-fearing common sense independent/liberal/conservative side with all the intelligence and all the guns who want nothing to do with the government.

    Pretty dumb if you ask me.

  165. Jacqlyn Smith

    I just sent out the following message to all of my contacts to watch the YouTube video….please do the same! Thanks, Jackie:)

    If you haven’t seen this video….please watch it and then send it far and wide……Enough with the silence from the MSM and our elected officials..….we know they have all been bought and sold by George Soros but the game is over and “we the people” are demanding answers NOW!!!! If you care anything about this country you will send this video to everyone you know and you will start participating in the birth certificate protests that are being planned in the near future!!! STAY TUNED!!! Jackie:)

  166. Therese
    I agree we must not cave in into this tyrant. Obama must either produce his birth records or step down, which I feel, is highly unlikely. As a suggestion, we need to expand your birthday rallies to the first day of every month. Do this til he complies. Birthday cards need to be sent to Congress, the Supreme Court, and the White House.
    Cards should say
    “Obama, Were still waiting for your real BIRTH CERTIFICATE”
    Tea party organizers take note!

  167. I just received this in the mail. She is my inspiration. If she can work this hard, so can I. We have got to support her on all fronts.

    Yes, send Obama all kinds of birthday reminders we don’t know when his birthday is because he has refused to produce a true copy of his birth certificate. Let him and his sneaking, conniving, lying, thugs this will never go away until he puts up or stands down.

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    Letter to the General Counsel of Admiral Mullen, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff
    April 22nd, 2009
    Dr. Orly Taitz, ESQ

    26302 La Paz ste 211

    Mission Viejo CA92691

    Phone 949-683-5411

    Fax 949-586-2082



    April 21, 2009

    Attn: Captain James Crawford

    Legal Counsel for Admiral Mullen

    Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff


    Room 2D 938

    Washington DC 20318-9999

    Phone 703-697-1137

    Dear Captain Crawford:

    Enclosed are follow-up documents to our prior communication.

    If you recall, I currently represent 160 plaintiffs, who include members of the US military with ranks as high as Major General. Some of these plaintiffs are also current State Representatives in their respective state legislatures.

    This packet includes the following documents:

    Verified Quo Warranto Complaint, which was filed by these US military plaintiffs and served on Eric Holder, Attorney General of the United States, demanding that Quo Warranto proceedings be instituted to prove that Barry Soetoro aka Barack Hussein Obama is eligible for the position of the US President.

    Verified Quo Warranto Complaint served on US Attorney for the District of Columbia, Jeffrey Taylor, demanding commencement of Quo Warranto proceedings for Barry Soetoro aka Barack Hussein Obama to prove his eligibility for the position of the US President.

    Dossiers 1 – 6, forwarded to US Attorney General Eric Holder, FBI Director Robert Mueller, Director of the Secret Service Mark Sullivan, and Chief Justice John Roberts, as well as to all of the Supreme Court associate justices. The dossiers include the following items:

    a. Statement of federal agent Steven Coffman, presenting evidence that Barack Hussein Obama’s Selective Service certificate was forged and backdated. This evidence shows that Obama’s Selective Service certificate was prepared in 2008 and backdated to appear as if it was prepared in 1980. Failure to fill out a timely certification for selective service makes one ineligible for work in the executive branch of the US government, which understandably includes the presidency as the top position in the government.

    b. Statement of Sandra Ramsey Lines, a forensic document examiner, explaining why the Certification of Live Birth, which was posted by Barack Obama on the internet, cannot be considered to be a genuine document and the reasons for the need to review the original vault copy of this document.

    c. Statement of Jorje Baro, licensed private investigator, showing evidence of forgery in the Certification of Live Birth, which was posted on the internet by Barack Hussein Obama.

    d. Statement of Neil Sankey, a licensed private investigator, identifying 100 addresses, located all over the US, for Barack and Michelle Obama. Since most of these addresses are connected to different social security numbers, this may constitute evidence of identity theft, social security fraud, tax evasion fraud, campaign contributions fraud, charitable organizations fraud and other related crimes.

    e. School registration records from Indonesia showing that Barack Obama was legally registered under the name of Barry Soetoro (last name of his stepfather).

    f. Barack Obama’s Illinois state bar registration, which he had to fill out in order to be licensed as an attorney in Illinois. In this document, Mr. Obama swears under oath that he did not have and never had any other prior names. In light of the Indonesian school registration records, itemized in 3 (e) above, this bar registration is evidence that Mr. Obama committed perjury.

    g. Database of 130 current job positions for Barack H Obama, Barry Obama and Michelle Obama, which may be evidence of campaign contributions fraud, where contributions over the allowable amounts were documented as job positions. This may account for $300 million in unexplained campaign contributions.

    h. Evidence of a cyber space campaign of character assassination, harassment and intimidations against my client, active duty officer Scott Easterling, and myself, as well as other cyber crimes.

    As of today’s date, there has been no response to the receipt of these documents from Mr. Mueller, Mr. Sullivan or Mr. Taylor. A verbal response from the Justice Department was received, indicating that these documents were forwarded to Solicitor General Elena Kagan. The Department of Justice also sent another response, indicating that these documents were sent to its criminal division.

    Meanwhile hundreds of US military personnel have filed Article 138 grievances under the Uniform Code of Military Justice, seeking verification of Barry Soetoro aka Barack Hussein Obama’s eligibility for the position of Commander-in-Chief. These grievances are based on the fact that Barack Obama has held a foreign citizenship status from birth, which makes him ineligible to comply with the Natural Born Citizen requirement in

    Article II, Section 1 [5] of the US Constitution, regardless of the actual physical location of his birth. Although Mr. Obama has consistently refused to produce a long form copy of his birth certificate to prove his claims that he was born in Hawaii, that document is basically irrelevant. Mr. Obama is Constitutionally ineligible to hold the office of US President because his parents conveyed dual US/UK citizenship to him at birth. Any foreign citizenship automatically eradicates a “natural born” status. His father’s United Kingdom citizenship was automatically conferred on all of his father’s children, including Barack Hussein Obama, at the moment of birth. Mr. Obama has openly acknowledged that he held this dual citizenship and that he became a citizen of Kenya at age two, when Kenya gained its independence from the UK. At approximately age 5, Mr. Obama became a citizen of Indonesia and his legal name was changed to Barry Soetoro. There is no evidence that his name was ever legally changed after that point in time.

    When Scott Easterling, one of the military officers who instituted the Quo Warranto action, first questioned Mr. Obama’s eligibility, an investigation was launched against Lt. Easterling instead of investigating the questions surrounding Mr. Obama’s eligibility. Article 138 of the UCMJ gives each and every member of the US military the right to obtain a resolution for his grievances against a commanding officer without any negative repercussions to himself. Please provide a speedy response to the UCMJ Article 138 investigation request to verify Barack Obama’s Constitutional eligibility to be a US president.

    Thank you for your prompt attention to this matter.

    Yours very truly,

    Orly Taitz

  168. CW,

    Enough is enough already. Due to the fact the so called representatives who no longer represent us, should be sent a clear and distinct wake up as to what a grassroots movement is. I suggest that all freedom loving We the People send out Employment Termination Letters to all of Congress.

    The e-mails, faxes, and letters should state the same message so Congress understands what one voice is and what can happen when there is a grassroots movement of We the People. The message should state:

    Due to current economic and social conditions, effective immediately, We the People, your employers state “your services are no longer required.” Please go home immediately. In other words, Congress, YOU ARE SO FIRED!

    If all freedom loving We the People sent this message to Washington, let’s say next week, in one voice, do you think they (Congress) might wake up? It would be interesting to see a minimum of 20 to 30 plus million emails, calls, and letters all being sent at the same time and what the effect would be. If this is possibility to get the word out, let’s do it. Let me know. BTW, this would be for all members of Congress, both houses, and none should be excluded.

    God Bless what is left of our Constitution, while Obama is in the White House using the shredder on those incredible documents which allow us a free Republic form of government.

  169. Rambo most likely had this poor man snuffed out. Remember Rahm Emanual was hired by Hillbilly Bill to over see Fannie in early 2000. Obama was asked via *Freedom of Information Act* to release all communications and board meeting minutes. He declined. Also I read Mr. Kellerman was shot and hung. Now, to me that sounds like over kill. Also, His wife and 5 year daughter were in the house. Something smells fishy! and stinky fish remind me of Emanual.

  170. Why send bobo b-days? It will only alert him
    to keep his fake certificates printing.

    Jacqlyn—agree with your direction. We have
    our COLBs and wave them in the air, chanting
    “Where is yours”?

  171. Tim Allman,

    Great Idea !!!

  172. Tim Allman // April 23, 2009 at 5:11 am


    Enough is enough already. Due to the fact the so called representatives who no longer represent us, should be sent a clear and distinct wake up as to what a grassroots movement is. I suggest that all freedom loving We the People send out Employment Termination Letters to all of Congress.

    Pink Slips for all! I’m sure if we got the word out, a graphic artist would create a downloadable version, and we could all print them off and mail them in. This is a GREAT idea for getting our voices heard before/between the next national rallies.

    Let’s flood their state offices and federal offices with pink paper.

    Brings a whole new meaning to “code pink”. I love it!!!

  173. Tim,

    Do you think we can get The Donald “You’re Fired” Trump to deliver those for us?

    I think this should be one of the next moves we take. Maybe plan a date a little further away than next week so that we can organize and get the word out.

    Pass that idea on – far and wide !

    Don’t forget to send your copies to Rush, Sean, Glen, Greta, etc … ( Not that it will help, but maybe they will make mention of it )

    It sounds like something Rush and Glen would really get behind.

    Someone let them in on it.
    Great Idea Tim !

  174. http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=95772

    Obama’s campaign money to quash eligibility.

  175. We need to do something before the inevitable collapse of the dollar and the republic.

    The second shot was heard around the world. It’s time for real action.

  176. Air Force Brat

    Oldsalt76 — I think the explanation re aged paper versus new paper will hold me for a while. Outstanding job. Had my teachers in high school been more like you in their presentation, I would not have slept in class at all.

  177. new unemployment numbers out today

    notice how usurptation in white house is no longer promising to “save or create 2-3 million jobs”? Why is that? because with today’s numbers he is a net negative 5.8 million behind since winning the election


  178. @ Katie:

    How about something like this:

  179. Is this crazy or what?

    Paul / Clinton 2012


    Clinton / Paul 2012

  180. Zeeshopper,

    Can we get rid of the “You are so fired” and put in:

    “Employment is Terminated”.

    That would be great!

  181. Zeeshopper – EXCELLENT!

    Now let’s all get busy posting this link all over the internet with a brief explanation of how to use it. (altho it essentially speaks for itself)

    Thank you for your contribution to Operation Pink Slip!!

  182. To all conspiracy theorists and birthers.

    What information could be placed on the forgery that would prove he is constitutionally qualified as POTUS?, if he uses Obama Sr. that would just make him a citizen, citizen by law, not a natural born.

    It would still leave the Kenyan citizenship problem , which was all nullified when he became a citizen on Indonesia.

    So if you were to forge a copy for Berry what information would you put on the BC to make him qualified?.

    You are following the game tracks of a deer that was killed last year…….., why do you think people are referring to him as Barry Soetoro?.

  183. @ JeffM:

    Here’s the modified version:

  184. Zeeshopper

  185. Jacqlyn Smith


    Maddie // April 23, 2009 at 8:45 am

    Why send bobo b-days? It will only alert him
    to keep his fake certificates printing.

    Jacqlyn—agree with your direction. We have
    our COLBs and wave them in the air, chanting
    “Where is yours”?

    WE should have one every month….Call them birth certificate Parties or something similar and every sign would relate to>>>>WHO are you??? Maybe the 4th of each month since he is claiming to be born on August 4th!!!

  186. Jacqlyn Smith


    Val // April 23, 2009 at 11:49 am

    Is this crazy or what?

    Paul / Clinton 2012


    Clinton / Paul 2012

    You are joking….I hope….Clinton needs to go and Paul should be right behind her……Clinton knows all about Obama’s ineligibility….why do you think she got appointed to SOS….can you say blackmail…..Paul is informed on all of this too….he needs to go as well!!!!

  187. Playing the music from The WHO

    Who are you? who who, who who?

    Excellent, pass it on

  188. ARMY
    follow the BULLETS!! that’s why Lt. Quarles Harris was murdered, and Eni Faleomavagua sent to Indonesia to abandon West Papuans to extermination……and why Obama helped Odinga’s genocide

    because Obama is an Indonesian citizen STILL AND he was born in Mombasa

    Now, if his BC says he was born of FMD or MX, that does not negate the Indo citizenship nor the Mombasa birth…

  189. http://www.newsmax.com/headlines/obama_health_care_plan/2009/04/22/206196.html
    Obama now wants us to pay for health/schooling for 47million illegals who will bring their families so we’re looking at a flood of 100million to 150million, basically the end of the USA

    He’s got to rip apart our fundamentals before he can build it up into the communist hellhole he has envisioned. He can’t take us on realistically, he has no backing, so he’ll just flood us.

  190. Hey all you OBOTS do you honestly think that your Messiah is going to SUPPORT you when things REALLY get rough? I got a news flash for you ; in all probability he will NO LONGER BE IN OFFICE………..Oh BOO HOO now you will have to WORK for your living. Can you do anything besides pick your nose,smoke pot, do drugs,and masturbate?

  191. Since Obama and his henchman E.Holder want to punish the Bush administration for enhanced interrogation techniques they used to keep America safe,


    It’s time the Bush Administration bring up the eligibility issue?

  192. The South………..Just don’t hold your breath!

  193. Regarding Hillary….. If you want to get a really erie feeling just look into her face for a minute or two. The language emmenating from her makes me feel as though I am looking into the face of a very proficient MURDERER. Why do I get this sort of feeling? Perhaps it is synonomous with the names Ron Brown, Vince Foster, and Jim McDougal…….She has a look in her face that tells me that she is perfectly comfortable with either murdering someone herself, or putting out a contract on her OWN MOTHER. I look upon her as a SNAKE.

  194. Even if the Obama GOON squad are able to produce an acceptable vault birth certificate, the fact remains that Fukino is on RECORD as having stated that Hawaii State board of Health has the ORIGINAL vault certificate. That said if Obama makes his phoney baloney PUBLIC then this will mean that the Privacy Act NO LONGER applies to him. Anybody ought to be able to subpoena the one from Hawaii as well. So I guess it comes down to reality……….. Soetoro you need to either PUT UP, or SHUT UP.

  195. Val……… I really like the idea of sending a YOUR FIRED notice to Congress… especially if it would be possible to have TRUMP SIGN it, and give us permission to reproduce a certain number of such notices bearing his signature. The next step is for someone with a SALES ability to contact TRUMP. I would gladly do it but I am NOT a SALESMAN. I usually end up offending people.

  196. I would love to see the really stupid look on MMMMMSSSSS IMPORTANT’S FACE when she is trying to figure out why TRUMP IS TRYING TO FIRE HER. Her CLOSE friend Harry Reid will probably say the only words in his vocabulary “Oh the war is Lost” whine, …whine …whine.

  197. oldsalt76 // April 23, 2009 at 2:03 pm

    Even if the Obama GOON squad are able to produce an acceptable vault birth certificate, the fact remains that Fukino is on RECORD as having stated that Hawaii State board of Health has the ORIGINAL vault certificate. That said if Obama makes his phoney baloney PUBLIC then this will mean that the Privacy Act NO LONGER applies to him. Anybody ought to be able to subpoena the one from Hawaii as well. So I guess it comes down to reality……….. Soetoro you need to either PUT UP, or SHUT UP.

    Hi OldSalt,

    I was thinking along those same lines. My question is: When the fake long-form is produced, what excuse will they use as to how it was ‘released’ from Hawaii? Would Hawaii go along with the whole charade and say yes, that it was unsealed and produced?

    Am I wrong, or is there only ONE original vault birth certificate that’s being kept sealed in Hawaii?

    Your wisdom, please!

  198. nawanawanga

    follow the BULLETS?.

    Now, if his BC says he was born of FMD or MX, that does not negate the Indo citizenship nor the Mombasa birth…


    I don’t understand how this relates to my post or the point I was making,sorry.

    According to Indonesian law at that time, all other citizenships and birth rights become null and void.

    Indonesia did not have dual citizenship at that time. The Soetoro marriage gave little Barry natural born status, that means Obama Sr. is no longer his birth father and Barry is no longer a citizen of Kenya or the US.

    So the documents you should be looking for are his adoption papers , POE, passport or his immigration papers , not his BC, either way , he’s an Indonesian citizen , a naturalized citizen, illegal alien, not a NBC.

    You can’t have it both ways……………..the birth certificate drama is irrelevant , there can not be any information on the Hawaii BC ,if one exists) that can make him Constitutionally qualified for POTUS.

    Again , referring the topic of this blog , what information could they put in a forged BC, that would make him a NBC?.

    answer , NOTHING…………

    That’s why this forgery theory is a lot of bunk and probably originated from the KOS site.

    The only document and papers you need is The US Constitution and the book that GBAmerica mentions above if you have a problem reading and understanding the Constitution.

  199. You have no idea how much I love you deal, bright minds on this great site. You don’t know how bright you are and I sometimes take you brilliance for granted.

    Here is the response I got from an airhead on another site I am affiliated. I rarely take on people who have their own opinions opposite of mine–why bother. When I saw her attitude and arrogance, I saw it in so many who claim to be patriots, I couldn’t resist. So here it is:

    Jennifer has sent you a message

    I understand there are eligibility concerns for many people. However, at this point; I don’t think there is anything we can possibly do to remove Obama from his throne. What it will take is a new influx of people into elected positions and they need to be honest people who will NOT continue as they have been. Obama is not going to say oh, yeah, that was dishonest, cya. He will and is pulling strings/paying/or whatever to hold his position. We will not be able to “get Obama out now”. Sorry, I really think that’s unrealistic. And honestly, I have spoken with many people who supported him and they are now questioning their vote. They are becoming disillusioned and are not happy with him or what he is doing. That gradual turnabout is going to be beneficial to 2010 elections. So, I say, let him blunder, mess up, etc. It’s good for people to see his true judgment and see that it is not beneficial.

    And, yes, I do love Sarah. This is ———-; I wouldn’t be here if I didn’t. My comments were about Sarah’s place in upcoming elections-not Obama’s. > Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 02:55:07 +0000

    Dear Jennifer,

    Please forgive me if I am harsh with you. There is too little time to try to enlighten arrogant ignorance of so many. While you are entitled to your opinion, the opinion is also entitled to be challenged. It is because of people like you Obama won the election. You chose to remain in your own darkness, telling your self; “I’ll do it my way.” Because you think you are so much more intelligent than the rest of society. Sadly–ignorance speaks loudly.

    I have specifically posted on my page for your benefit an e-mail I receivedfrom one of the bravest and most brilliant legal minds in America today. Dr. Taitz doesn’t think “there is anything more we can possibly do to remove Obama from his throne. . . .” Let us not forget, Attorney Phil Berg, Stephen Pidgeon, and the hundreds of others who are fighting every day to oust this usurper. Do you think they think they will never win. Should, they, too give up the fight!

    You see, opinons of people who know nothing about a subject verses opinions of people who know everything about a subject will strongly contradict one another. Those who truly know the facts, have a very a different opinion. Thus they also have a more postitive and realistic attitude. Sadly, in times of great American crisis, people of America cannot afford the price they are made to pay because of it. That is why, I have waste my valuable time in an almost useless attempt of tyring to enlighten people who refuse to learn because they are so jade in self righteousness.


    Spin your wheels in the fantasy America still is a Republic under the rule of the US Constitution. IT IS NOT. WE ARE NOW IN A TYRANNY. Obama is an imposter–a usurper. Which means he is not a legal President. If the President is not legal, then neither is the government. It does not have the authority of the US Constitution to governmen us. Everything it does from the first hour Obama took office is ILLEGAL. THIS MEANS AT THIS VERY MOMENT AMERICANS’ RIGHTS NO LONGER ARE PROTECTED UNDER THE US CONSTITUTION BECAUSE THERE IS NO LEGAL GOVERNMENT TO PROTECT THEM. THAT IS WHY WE MUST DO EVERYTHING POSSIBLE TO DEMAND OBAMA PRODUCE HIS PROOF HE IS ELIGIBLE TO BE PRESIDENT.

    It is still possible to win if we stop debating among ourselves and get focused on the one item that can and will save America. This is the one item Obama camp is fighting the harderst to avoid. This is why all patriots who want Sarah Palin to be president must first work to TAKE BACK AMERICA AND RESTORE HER TO A REPUBLIC UNDER THE THE RULE OF THE US CONSTITUTION.

    You state; ” What it will take is a new influx of people into elected positions and they need to be honest people who will NOT continue as they have been.” Jennifer, just how do you propose to get a “new infux of people elected” without first challenging the officials who are already sitting tight titles? How are these “new, honest people” going to make legal laws and pass legal bills if the government itself is not legal? Where are you going to find all the “honest” people who “don’t think there’s anything any one dan do . . .” and have quit before they have even begun? I wouldn’t want anyone with that attitude to represent me in an elected capacity. Would you?



    I tried to look up your profile to invite you as a freind because are live in my old home town, Detroit. You are the first Team Sarah member I discovered who has chosen to keep her personal profile closed unless the person is registered as a friend. Oh, Oh! What have we here? While it is your perogative to do that, you have no idea how much it reveals about who you are! After I saw that I decided I don’t want you as a friend. May God bless you and enlighten you. This is the last time I will ever beat this dead horse again. I wrote this not only for your hopeless sake–but for all the other well intentioned blind people just like you who are making America pay a price for their igrnorance.

  200. Does anyone here think that this whole “torture” episode might have something to do with Barry and his boys trying to keep the BC issue from coming out.

    Let’s face it, he has ticked off some pretty powerful people with all his apologies, bowing, hand shaking and ass kissing. Folks out there are getting sick of it.

    There may be things going on behind the scenes that we don’t know about. I have to believe that some where in this country there has to be a God fearing, Country loving patriot who will stand up for us. Someone who will get us the information – be it good, bad or otherwise.

    So, things are going on behind the scenes ( we can pray for that ) and Barry knows it’s getting close. So he threatens to release information that could be potentially harming to many peoples careers. Big names, Big brass.

    We all know, back then we didn’t care what they did, or how they did it. Just as long as they did it! Just as long as they kept us safe. And they did. And we were safe.

    What’s scary is I’m starting to feel that same kind of fear again. I hope and pray that nothing will happen. But I haven’t felt afraid in a long time and now, I do. Thanks to Biden and Powell who confirmed that there’s a good chance we could be under attack soon.

    Now people want to talk about “torture” and what we should or shouldn’t have done? … Really?

    I will never forget 9/11 !!

    I will never forget sitting in front of the TV and watching the buildings fall. Pinching myself thinking it must be a dream. Calling family members and telling them to ” turn on the tv – the country was under attack”. Rushing to my child’s school to sign her out and get her home. Getting to the school and seeing the same fear as mine on many, many parents faces. Grabbing their children and holding them tight. The office was over flowing with parents, teachers, children. Every one was shocked and scared. Parents not knowing what to tell your children. Just wanting to get them home so that they could feel safe.

    Knowing where that day could have been leading, remembering Viet Nam and trying not to cry in front of your kids. Wondering if your older children would be dragged off to fight a war.

    I will NEVER forget that day!

    So, if you ask me if I care what has been done to the TERRORIST who harmed and continue to harm THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA …


    Most Americans don’t want to, or need to know what our government does to keep us safe. Just let them do it.

    So let’s not dig for the torture documents. We don’t want or need to know.

    But, we are interested in knowing who the hell our POTUS is !… Really !

    There has to be at least one good honest politician or journalist out there that will do the right thing.

    There has to be ….

  201. truthbetold11

    The msm basically are obot workers, until you turn them on him its a 1st inning ball game and we are behind by 10 runs. But its not over till its over yogi berra and we need to make some game changing trades. When will someone like Tom Brady speak up or Tiger Woods this country is being sytematically divided day by day and the silent of many is scary. EVIL FLOURISHES WHEN GOOD MEN DO NOTHING! Spread the word!!

    Ericc Holder speaking live before House Appropriations Committee.

  203. Val – Want to get excited – watch this Youtube

  204. Zeeshopper,

    Excellent! I’m printing mine off and stuffing it into envelopes as we speak…

  205. Mark Stein who filled in today for Rush brought
    up an issue in England that involved “gays”
    versus “Muslims.” The British elementary school wanted to have first graders introduced
    to a book about “gay marriage” as a family unit.
    The Muslim parents objected. The Muslims
    won out. The book was quickly removed.

    What this indicates to me is apparently
    when the Islamic religion “objects” to something
    in non-Muslim society, Islam wins over what
    is “politically correct.”
    We know here in the US we have had “foot baths” installed to accomodate Muslims,
    but what “accomodations” do Christians
    receive????!!!! We are supposed to throw
    out prayer, the Bible, creation, etc. in the

  206. Most Americans don’t want to, or need to know what our government does to keep us safe. Just let them do it.

    So let’s not dig for the torture documents. We don’t want or need to know.

    But, we are interested in knowing who the hell our POTUS is !… Really !

    There has to be at least one good honest politician or journalist out there that will do the right thing.

    Val—Excellent, purely excellent post.
    You have expressed exactly the way most of
    us felt on 9/11. AND, I totally agree, let the
    govt. do what they have to do to :1. keep us
    safe & 2. to gain intel. I don’t need to know
    the specifics and frankly don’t care what they
    have to do to terrorists who in this instance
    killed 3,000 people. The terrorists kill
    our soldiers and take hostages that they
    frequently end up torturing and killing in
    the most gruesome ways, so NO, do whatever
    it takes to the terrorists—you are right on
    that, Val!!!!!!!!

    And, yes, I think you may be on the right
    path—Obama knows we are on to him with
    the BC issue and he knows he can’t keep
    avoiding it forever, so he’s making his own threats to release the terror tactics crap on a former administration. So much for his lies
    again about being “forward thinking.”

  207. Since Obama and his henchman E.Holder want to punish the Bush administration for enhanced interrogation techniques they used to keep America safe,


    It’s time the Bush Administration bring up the eligibility issue?
    Ya know, I thought that was going to happen
    after the WH “visit”—or when GW signed
    the final bills—-BUT, neither he NOR Cheney
    took the BIG STEP—for this I was very
    disappointed. Otherwise, I thank GW for
    keeping the US safe after 9/11.

  208. Everyone watch Oriely tonight on FOX…

    He’s breaking a story involving GE, Obama, Cap-n-trade “Quid-pro-quo”

    He says this thing makes Watergate look like childs play?

  209. The South – I really got excited for a second. I thought you said “watch Orly” tonight. Oh well one of these days.

  210. The head of the “snake” in the Democratic
    Party is its “new leader” Barrack Hussein Obama. The next “runner-up” is Nancy Pelosi.
    I would never trust her.
    Hillary Clinton’s nomination as the presidential
    nominee was illegally “removed” by BHO, Soros,
    Pelousi, etc. HRC is as much a victim of Obama’s
    deceit and tactics as John McCain,
    Sarah Palin, and the American People are.
    With BHO as POTUS NONE of us are winners, that’s for sure!!!!!!!!!

  211. The South—Right on, I heard about this on
    Glenn Beck’s radio show today! Sounds like
    this ought to be a good one!!!

  212. I agree almost 100% with the idea regarding Soetoro’s Indonesia Citizenship. Keeping this in mind I then question if he ever at all tried to obtain US citizenship AFTER his little stay in Indonesia. I realise that it is irrelevant anyway,because as I see it the Indonesian Citizenship was the LATEST status change and therefore would be the most provable. I would like to add that I spent several months searching all US NAME CHANGE petitions. To the best of my knowledge a legal petition is required in all states, because the name change requires certain Federal changes as well. Also there would be a State level record as well. I was not able to find any US name change petitions under the name Obama OR Soetoro having been filed from 1965 to mid 2008. It required a lot of searching, but I am certain that there was NEVER a petition filed with any US Court to restore his alleged birthname. While I cannot guarantee this to be accurate, I personally believe it is. This cannot legally be done out of court. It also requires a specific number of days of public notice of name change. In Indiana the last I was aware that a name change required at least 3 days of public notice. So if he really never had his alleged birthname legally reinstated, or granted then he is guilty of Federal Election fraud, because he registered as Barrack Hussein Obama. The public voted for that name, not Soetoro. That said he is NOT the POTUS , nor is he the CIC of the US Military Forces. This also makes MMMMSSSS IMPORTANT an accessory to election fraud, for CERTIFYING HIM. I believe that all of this will soon be proven beyond reasonable doubt. In which case he and ALL of those who assisted him are headed for LEAVENWORTH.

  213. The South – The other morning I was watching Mornin’ Joe on MSNBC (You have to keep an eye on the enemy) and they had Bobby Kennedy Jr on. He was on a project to keep the Hudson River clean. Google up “GE PCBs Hudson River”. Years ago GE dumped tons of PCBs into the Hudson River and the lawsuit has still to be resolved. It would be in the billions. VERY INTERESTING.

  214. I find it laughable that anyone thinks only a
    few “close” people knew about Obama’s
    “ineligibility” for POTUS prior to running.

    Give me a break, I would say the VAST MAJORITY of OUR GOVT. KNEW: This includes George W. Bush, Dick Cheney,
    ALL of Congress BOTH parties, and probably ALL the lawyers. Wasn’t that ENOUGH to at
    least QUESTION THE ASS?! The blame
    game cannot be aimed at any one person/s,
    but the WHOLE BUNCH of little weenies
    in this regard! I don’t care if no one on this
    blog agrees or not, these people above mentioned were not born yesterday, and you
    can bet they had their little tete-a-tetes about
    Obama’s ineligibility behind closed doors.
    But NOT ONE of them had a SPINE of STEEL!

  215. There is another complication for Soetoro. It appears that he also has a FORGED Selective Service form on file. This may seem not to be very important because the US no longer uses conscription. But if he never registered on his 18 th birthday then here is another disqualifying factor for him to be the CIC,OR POTUS. I believe that this will eventually return to bite him. We must all keep reviewing the facts in our mind, and when a question that has not yet been asked appears it should be explored in every way concievable.

  216. “If I see wrong-doing, I will pursue it to the
    fullest extent of the law.”—-Eric Holder’s


  217. Maddie I agree !!! Prior to Soetoro creeping into the White House I did email the President Bush.. White House and asked when the Constitution was amended to allow non natural born to hold the office… the usual ignorance… tell me to check a frikken web site… So yes I do blame Bush for allowing an illegal citizenship citizen in the white house. My wish for America… All Liars drop dead today!!!!!! Can you imagine how hard this is on someone that can not lie????? A Gun to my head would be better for me.

  218. Just wrote my congressman and Senators, here is what I said…for what it was worth:

    I am sick and tired of Congress screwing the We the People and the socialism they are trying so hard to implement. Just stand up for We the People and say NO to Cap and Trade. This is tiresome for Congress to keep trying to line their pockets with the ill gotten gains of the We the People. Enough already, until Obama proves his eligibility, just say No to any new bills, no matter how you think that it will HELP the We the People.

    Enough already, as of right now I am neither Rep or Dem, I am a concerned citizen and all of you are in the same bed, stop with the illegal aliens, stop the spending, stop already.

    I should not have to be worrying how Congress and Obama are trying to screw us, so, tell the rest of the Senators, enough already, and let the economy heal itself. BTW, enough with the Government trying to take over the businesses and dictating how they will do business. Stop with the so called HATE CRIMES bill under the guise of freedom of speech.

    ENOUGH ALREADY… Do yourself and your country a big favor stop with the politics and start doing what is right and just for the country and not your pockets… If you think I am angry, I am not, I am frustrated by all of the stupid ideas being set forth by Obama, Pelosi, and Reid. They are not doing what is best for the Country of which I love. For all are sakes, stop already and find out what the people really want from a LIMITED government.

    God bless our country, the constitution (what little we have left), and our dedicated troops…As an aside, I would also suggest wholeheartedly to quite with the idea of New World Order, I am not a citizen of the World, I am a Natural Born Citizen of the United States of America and damn proud of that fact and of our Country…We have nothing to apologize for or no one to bow down to. It is time for you to stand up and call Obama to task and never be ashamed of this wonderful country.

    Oh, I may have said I am not angry, I am beside myself in the way Congress has shoved garbage as legislation out the door. Enough is Enough…STAND with We the People in taking back our country…

    Tim one of 305 million We the People…

  219. Redneck Sympathizer, Exactly what did you mean about fighting in the street? I’m a little slow tonight. Thanks.bkw

  220. Tim, I am glad to “stand” with We the People.
    Well said, and yes, we ARE ANGRY and we
    want our country back NOW!

  221. Maddie,

    Thank you! I feel very strongly about not needing to know all that needs to be done to keep our country safe. I have never understood why the news stations will sit there and discuss our security plans or the lack of. ???

    Yes, I will never forget 9/11. But, lets not forget 9/12 either. That’s what we are all about !

    If “that one” is still in office in 2010 – that’s when we WILL be heard.

    Vote them ALL out. Whoever is in … IS OUT !

  222. So many vital events happening so fast. Yes I think this entire threat to prosecute the Bush administration is another trick of the illusionist to take public attention from the one item they want to avoid more than any other–Obama’s qualifications!

    However I think this is going to backfire on them big time. How long is the military going to remain silent and turn the other cheek? How about some big time Bush players who are now being threatened? Me think, the Obama Terrorists have opened Pandora’s box. Have you noticed none of them can get their stories straight as to whether or not they were aware of this when Bush was in office–(notified some 30+ times.) This is just too delicious to ignore.

    The pressure is being felt by the Obama camp. That is why we must send the word every where to put pressure on them in any and all ways regarding Obama’s qualifications. Sooner or later there will be a judge who will get pissed off enough to grow what he needs to demand Obama’s documents.

    A small rally is better than no rally. Birthday cards or any thing else that let’s them know this issue isn’t going away works, too. Yes, send termination slips to all our elected officials for their breach of fiduciary duty and violation of their sworn oath. I see signs the house of cards is starting to fall. Let’s help them.

  223. Pelousy just lied like the crank she is, just lied so badly she tripped herself up stammering conflating words and voice trembling…heading the intelligence committee she claims she was unaware of enhanced interrogation techniques being used, just that they were “discussed”…

    ha ha

  224. Maddie: remember Biden joked that he found Obama’s birth certificate in Cheney’s VP desk?

    Shakespeare wrote: “Many a truth is spoken in gest”

    You guys will love lamecherry today, he’s very intuitive about Obama body language:

    Time is painting him as a pervert, a non-leader, and kind of a has-been already!

  225. They ALL know he’s ineiligible, they’re merely “handling” the public with B.S., it’s “THE GAME” don’t you see?
    To join “THE CLUB” you have to be a louse, a crook, part of the New World Order, a closet commie…something. Then, you (as in a politician) have to play “THE GAME” and PRETEND to be a normal person concerned as a representative should be, when in actuality you hire psychologists sociologists and play mind games using diversion double entendre mixed nuances retreatable insults red herrings strawmen, heck even straw herrings…whatever it takes to “HANDLE THE PUBLIC”. They are no more our representatives than I am a deep sea diver, they are ACTORS and HANDLERS.

    Of course they all know he’s a fraud, they are buying time, they know the cauldron will boil over loooong before Obama gets his “army” in place to keep us in OUR place. So they pretend, pretend really really hard. And only a few citizens remaining are actually believing they are represented what-so-ever any longer.

    You’re not. You’re being “handled” and sent nicey-nice BS descriptions of bills and referred to chock-full-of-lies websites as “proof”. Then they create a new distraction or two and cram more legislation as fast as possible to grab as much treasure and power as they can before the pot is bubbling all over the place, before those “chattering masses” those “sweaty tourists” figure out they are not hallucinating, that they are being played for fools and robbed blind of liberty and prosperity.

    Heck Obama isn’t even really into the schmooze much any more, he’s just focused on the power grab. Nobody in their right mind believes him. My dog barks at him on the TV, she says “Hey! Stop that! Stop that! I’m a dog but I’m not THAT stupid!”

    Yahoo had 7 disastrous headlines about the economy, terror, war, etc. then the last one was how happy Americans are about Obama. See, the propagandists have to TELL us we’re happy about him, though they clearly know we’re anything BUT.

  226. I am wondering if the Freddie Mac CFO who just hung himself is Barny Frank’s gay lover. I had heard that his lover was an executive at Freddie Mac. You can be sure that they will be trying very hard to keep this from getting out. Just one more little thing to show the world the true nature of the OBOTS. I call them “DEVIATES”

  227. oldsalt: Lamecherry writes that he both shot and hung himself, which the police called a “participant-less death”, whatever the hell that means. I call it a murder.

  228. Oldsalt,

    I read somewhere, maybe on this post earlier, that
    The Freddie Mac guy was not Bar-knee Franks guy. They did name who is, but I forgot.

  229. Bar-Knee Frank – always in the bar on his knee’s !

  230. Did anyone watch the O’Reilly show that ‘The South’ mentioned? We do not watch TV – but I am curious to see what was mentioned.

    It is hard to believe that we are almost in May – and we still have a usurper in the WH. I seriously thought that these questionable issues surrounding his citizenship ( or lack thereof) his shady records, politics, etc. would have been resolved by now. It seems like with each passing day – more dirt is being hidden under the rug while America is being raped & plundered from within.

  231. I am hoping that more people across the US will join the online grand jury on AmericanGrandJury.org. I feel that grand juries are the best way for people to get involved, regardless of naysayers and some negative stuff said by Leo (which he just was negative about the wording of taking property, etc., not grand jury itself). The sooner the better. I really want to see BO removed from office ASAP! He should be the one being prosecuted, not Bush. It would have been nice if Bush did a little better with not allowing a foreigner to usurp the presidency.

  232. Old Salt, Could Barry Soetoro’s name be found in census records. I can’t remember if the names, of the people counted, are listed, and recorded. But of course, Soetoro is now in charge of the census, and has probably scrubbed the record by now.

  233. I think I figured out how to survive in this recession – find those places I won’t be boycotting and spend my money there. The list is getting smaller all the time. JC Penney is now on the boycott list. Disgraceful!


  234. interesting story about cell phones. They can track us.
    ACLU: US Attorney used GPS to track cell phones


  235. ok people here’s yet again another opportunity for lawsuit all the way to the supreme court, if one can get a hold of CIA people , the ones who don’t want to release photos that would put out our nation and soldiers in danger. BIG OPPORTUNITY HERE for case against OBAMA based upon the fact that he has no authority to do so


    any takers?

  236. DaVerg: This is outrageous. Obama and his background evil handlers are going to ruin this country if we don’t stand up and protest these kinds of dangerous actions. We are going to be wide open to an attack and sooner rather than later. Someone at the CIA or military or judicial must put a stop to this insanity. Who will it be that gets hit? Where? 9/11 is going to be repeated but maybe on a larger scale. Every part of our lives is now being made vulnerable to collapse and they are getting away with it. Where are our leaders? Who will stand up and say NO MORE? I am sick over this and worry for my 2 small grandchildren more than ever. Someone, please rise up and be a leader who can get the job done with our help.

  237. Each and every day I wake up to find things more and more like “Bizarro World.” It is as if we left our dimension and spiraled off into another warped version of ourselves on another plane somewhere. Hard working Americans are now terrorist threats because of simple conservative values, while killers are freed and our enemies are emboldened????? WTH?

    This is NOT the American dream. The Americans came to this country to work hard and make a life for themselves. They did not come to cash in on another man’s wealth. They came for the opportunity to better their lives, not to lower the standard of living of another so that they could receive something for nothing.

    I am convinced that this monster is trying to destroy America so we will accept this new Bizarro America. And who is he to talk about our values? Who is he to act as if enhanced interrogation is worse than letting surviving babies of abortion die all alone in the dirty linen closets?

    Where the hell are we living?? America has been dumbed down much farther than I thought to be buying this putrid pile of smoldering GARBAGE

  238. bob strauss // April 24, 2009 at 10:10 am

    Old Salt, Could Barry Soetoro’s name be found in census records. I can’t remember if the names, of the people counted, are listed, and recorded. But of course, Soetoro is now in charge of the census, and has probably scrubbed the record by now.


    You will not find Barry Soetoro on any US records, his mother brought him back in the country on her Indonesian passport and by -passed immigration .

    He just assumed his old identity , his own statement “, I spent a little time in Indonesia “, like he was just visiting,,,,,,,and the media bought it,,

    All records in Hawaii ,Kenya and Indonesia have been sealed .

  239. Rule one: Never allow a crisis to go to waste. They are opportunities to do big things.”
    – Rahm Emmanuel

    America’s ‘November Revolution’


    Read the comments…………

  240. O Really show spoke of GE relation to BS. GE owns NBC and MNBC and how they favored BS in the primaries and election. Now they (GE) is sucking up to the BS administration trying to get millions or billions dollars of govt contracts. O Really is hot on this and specially NBC so it is not gonna go away.

  241. Great letter to sent barry soetoro by email and smail. On the white envelope on back, put “In God We Trust.”


    President Obama
    1600 Pennsylvania Ave, NW
    Washington, DC 20500

    Shall we create a national incident?????

    April 17, 2009

    The White House
    1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW Washington, DC 20500

    Mr. Obama:

    I have had it with you and your administration, sir. Your conduct on your
    recent trip overseas has convinced me that you are not an adequate
    representative of the United States of America collectively or of me

    You are so obsessed with appeasing the Europeans and the Muslim world that
    you have abdicated the responsibilities of the President of the United States of
    America. You are responsible to the citizens of the United States. You are
    not responsible to the peoples of any other country on earth.

    I personally resent that you go around the world apologizing for the United
    States telling Europeans that we are arrogant and do not care about their
    status in the world. Sir, what do you think the First World War and the Second
    World War were all about if not the consideration of the peoples of Europe? Are
    you brain dead? What do you think the Marshall Plan was all about? Do you not
    understand or know the history of the 20thcentury?

    Where do you get off telling a Muslim country that the United States does
    not consider itself a Christian country? Have you not read the Declaration of
    Independence or the Constitution of the United States? This country was
    founded on Judeo-Christian ethics and the principles governing this country, at
    least until you came along, come directly from this heritage. Do you not
    understand this?

    Your bowing to the king of Saudi Arabia is an affront to all Americans. Our
    President does not bow down to anyone, let alone the king of Saudi Arabia.
    You don’t show Great Britain, our best and one of our oldest allies, the respect
    they deserve yet you bow down to the king of Saudi Arabia.
    How dare you, sir!

    How dare you!

    You can’t find the time to visit the graves of our greatest generation
    because you don’t want to offend the Germans but make time to visit a mosque in
    You offended our dead and every veteran when you give the Germans more
    respect than the people who saved the German people from themselves.

    What’s the matter with you?

    I am convinced that you and the members of your administration have the
    historical and intellectual depth of a mud puddle and should be ashamed of
    yourselves, all of you.

    You are so self-righteously offended by the big bankers and the American
    automobile manufacturers yet do nothing about the real thieves in this
    situation, Mr. Dodd, Mr. Frank, Franklin Raines, Jamie Gorelic, the Fannie
    Mae bonuses, and the Freddie Mac bonuses. What do you intend to do about them? Anything? I seriously doubt it.

    What about the U.S. House members passing out $9.1 million in bonuses to
    their staff members – on top of the $2.5 million in automatic pay raises that
    lawmakers gave themselves? I understand the average House aide got a 17%
    I took a 5% cut in my pay to save jobs with my employer. You haven’t said
    anything about that. Who authorized that? I surely didn’t!
    Executives at Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac will be receiving $210 million in
    bonuses over an eighteen-month period, that’s $45 million more than the AIG
    In fact, Fannie and Freddie executives have already been awarded $51
    million -not a bad take. Who authorized that and why haven’t you expressed your
    outrage at this group who are largely responsible for the economic mess we have
    right now.

    I resent that you take me and my fellow citizens as brain-dead and not
    caring about what you idiots do. We are watching what you are doing and we are
    getting increasingly fed up with all of you. I also want you to know that I
    personally find just about everything you do and say to be offensive to every one of my sensibilities. I promise you that I will work tirelessly to see that you do
    not get a chance to spend two terms destroying my beautiful country.


    Every real American

  242. redneck sympathizer

    May 1 is the day that there is supposed to be illegal alien march day “in the streets” remember those?I read somewhere that that was on again.

  243. OK everybody, now I am starting to hear what is necessary to make us so damn mad that the action begins. I am looking forward to his insane attempts to produce a convincing forged vault BC. He doesn’t know enough about PRINTING. Whichever of his gang of imbeciles identified the press as a HEIDELBERGER has shown himself to be the WORLD’S BIGGEST JACKASS, and without a doubt has a similar printing ability. Of course we can expect jackass OBOTS to think he is a genius. Of course most obots can’t do anything except lie, smoke pot, do drugs, and masturbate.

  244. redneck sympathizer

    Patriots’ Turn

    Out of a murky past the Usurper rose.
    Unconstitutional Laws he would impose..
    With minions and media they would devise.
    The plot of continual spreading of lies.
    And, with Congress they would meet.
    Also, those upon the Senate seat.
    Concocting a plan of Our Country’s fall.
    It would require them to “sell out” ALL!
    The Judges Courts they allow to Fail.
    Wrecking the balance of our Justice Scale.
    Just, for only, the Bankers Greed.
    They push through Bills they do not read.
    Believing they have sealed our Fate.
    By telling us that it’s to Late.
    But, wait! What is that thunderous sound?
    So very loud, it shakes the ground.
    Could it be millions upon millions of Patriots’ feet?
    That is marching, ever marching to Liberty’s drumbeat.
    Now, the good men will no longer ignore.
    The oath of allegiance that they did swore.
    Our Constitution is the key to restore.
    To the erosion of Freedom WE say. “No more!”

    Kim American

  245. Soros’s Right Wing Zombies Mobilized for “Tea Parties”

    April 20 (LPAC)–The April 15th Tea Party anti-tax actions were not a “mass movement”–they were an orchestrated operation of George Soros, Rupert Murdoch’s Fox empire and the computer social networking phenomena of Twitter and Facebook. Forget the so-called organizers like Newt Gingrich, Fox News fascist Sean Hannity, and Congressional has-been, Dick Armey. They are just frontmen–the real organizers were the cyber-zombies of Twitter,
    Facebook and the like.

    b~~~~Lyndon LaRouche warned today that the April 15th demos were not spontaneous, and likened them to the zombie flagellants of the 14th Century breakdown crisis. LaRouche said, “What you have now, is a thing that you have to watch for. Don’t assume that this is good-faith stuff. What you’ve got is a situation in which–like the Twitter phenomenon. If you look at the number of hits; take this case of Larry King and the Twitters on popularity–it’s all over the place.

    b~~~~“What happened is, you have organization, this one is pretty much traced to George Soros and company, the Twitter organization. And we had some conflict with it; not as such, I just said `get the hell out of there; this is a trap.’

    b~~~~The Gingrich and Armey front groups, one of which is called FreedomWorks are actually using Twitter to orchestrate events.

    b~~~~LaRouche explained, “They move in on any event they choose to target by getting a mobilization. So they get a turn out as a result of the Twitter or similar types of operations. So they turn out. Don’t say that people are getting “angry,” and that’s why they’re turning out. People are angry, and, sure, they will turn out; but maybe they are not just turning out. Maybe somebody is orchestrating it.

    b~~~b~~~~“This is leftist fascism of these days,” said LaRouche. “You’re dealing with a population today which is stupid; they don’t know anything about history. All they know is what they call “current events.” And they’re not even currant; they’re raisins.

    b~~~~“This isn’t “popular opinion;” it’s mass insanity. It’s a religious service, called a mass insanity. What they do is they use a single, short message on Twitter. They distribute it to their organization, and they can get tens of millions of people who respond to it quickly.”

    – Mass-Based Manchurian Candidate Operation –

    b~~~~A recent puff-piece in Foreign Policy magazine boasted about the “Twitter Revolution” about to be unleashed in Moldova, Syria, and other countries by the networks of George Soros.

    b~~~~LaRouche commented, “Twitter is turning out to be a mass-based Manchurian candidate operation, closely associated, naturally, with the Nazi-trained George Soros.

    b~~~~“This whole thing is being orchestrated–that’s what’s important. What you have is the control of so-called popular opinion, which is a bunch of zombies–that’s what they are!

    They’re like a bunch of zombies, like 14th century zombies, marching en masse. Don’t treat it as credible: this is not mass protest. This is not spontaneous protest. You’ve got zombies out there–and call them zombies–who will move at the hint from that fascist drug pusher, George Soros. And a lot of this stuff which is called mass protest, is you’ve got Soros’s zombies, which come in many varieties, because he’s paying for them. Many of them are drugged. They’re out there doing mass protests, not because they know what they’re talking about, but because they are just being told to go out and shake up the Establishment.

    b~~~~“They have to be compared to the lunatics known in the 14th century New Dark Age, known as the Flagellants. Call these guys the New Flagellants, who beat you know what.

    b~~~~“If you say that, then you’re out of the woods,” said LaRouche, but if you try to explain it as a phenomenon, you fall into their trap. “There’s real protest out there, but what they’re trying to do, is prevent the real protest from exploding, which is really voluntary. This is called “involuntary knee-jerk reactions.” Because no use of the brain is required to cause this to happen. This bypasses the brain: it goes directly from George Soros to Twitter, without stopping at the brain.”


    USAPatriot-shout didn’t write the above article. If I had not received other similar information from people who don’t know and are not connected with Lynden LaRouche, I would have laughed at this article. I truly do not know what to think. However if there is a grain of truth in this article–then all of us have been used, abused, and betrayed again by those who stole America from us.

    Many good and well intentioned people have been quite upset with me for a remark I made to one whom you consider an outstanding member of Team Sarah. You have been rather one sided and smug in your attitude. Basically you think that BO’s eligibility issue is of no major concern on the Team Sarah website. This site is only about support for Sarah. Would you please tell me, —if you read the article I posted “Obama may stage Terror. . .” how Sarah can ever be elected President if Obama cancels the 20 10 election? Would you tell me where in the rules of Team Sarah site, it says the only way to support Sarah is to repeat syrup sweet adoration praises of Sarah (this will really cause some people to accuse me of not being for Sarah–which is not true). Isn’t Obama’s BC along with everything else political is part of this web site?

    One of the most interesting criticism MSM had of the tea parties is it seemed to have no specific message. If the article above is true–and I am not saying it is, then it is obvious this is one more George Soros plot to lead well meaning people away from the real issues at hand–Obama’s legality as President. Time is on their side. The longer they win the little battles in the courts, make the public think it will never win, the longer they can get you to focus on other issues–believing this is a real American government–the more certain the public will forget that Obama is a USURPER,—- they hope. If the tea party article by Lynden LaRouche is true–imagine what it would do to George Soros if we became just as enthusiastic and demanded Obama be vetted as he shoudl have been at the time Congress counted the electoral votes. Soros has Obot moles stashed everywhere. I merely published an article suggesting a new strategy to take back America so people like Sarah would have a place in the American Government. Your beloved member drew first blood. Her response to the article that was not personal to any one but a simple cry for help– seemed very much like a mole from the Obama camp. She –unsolicited –took it upon herself to demean efforts to pursue Obama’s eligibility as president. When I responded by sharing the wonderful letter from a selfless dedicated person like Dr. Taitz, she reponded in a slightly hostile manner. She did not have the good grace to offer me intellectual information to confirm her point of view. This is a typical Obot mole behavior. All I want to do is restore America to the Republic for whish she once was. It can not be done if people still think America is like she was before Obama stole the Whitehouse. Remember the road to hell is paved with good intentions. Me thinks, Thy Protest, Too Loud!



  246. Now this fellow doesn’t mix words!.


  247. Therese….that is just pure hogwash! I’m certainly not involved with Soros and I was calling for the rental of U-Haul trucks and the dumping of tons of tea in the Reflecting Pool in Washington months before the national interest began. We actually had a bunch of people getting quotes fromt tea companies etc.

    The point is that INTELLIGENT people are fed up and don’t need some mass communicating technology and a big wig to tell us what to do…..WE KNOW HISTORY! All someone had to do was light the spark like Rick did on the floor in Chicago…..then wildfire.

    This is divide and conquer stuff. They are trying to make us feel dumb and used…….ironic isn’t it?

    They are the Kool-Aid drinking, dumber than dirt, used to the hilt zombies!

  248. As long as people persist under the illusion we are being ruled under the same government we had prior to Obama’s inauguation, we will remain enslaved. People must awaken to the fact we have lost America as we knew it to be under the US Constitution.

  249. Air Force Brat

    Rocknee — liked the letter. Liked it a LOT. The only change I might make would be to remove the word “sir”, as it’s a term of respect; and you-know-who doesn’t deserve any form of respect whatsoever.

  250. Therese Daniels said:

    “People must awaken to the fact we have lost America as we knew it to be under the US Constitution.”

    We have not lost America nor have we lost the Constitution. Why? Because people continue to live under the care of the Constitution. What is happening is that the government is usurping its power and breaking their connection with the Constitution.

    We the People still rule ourselves under the guidance of the Constitution. We are generally a self-regulating nation and we always have been. When we start to say the government has stripped us from the care of the Constitution, we are giving it up ourselves because the Constitution grants us the power to rule ourselves under its guidance. Do we even need a Federal Government to have our rightful seats on the wings of Liberty???

    You see, the Constitution is a “living document”. If We the People believe it is still alive and well, which it is, we will continue to uphold it. That is what we are seeing with all of this activity. When we throw our hands up and say “The Constitution is Dead” is when the usurping tyrannical government has won and we are no longer a great and lawful nation.

    They are the enemy of the Constitution, not We the People. THEY trample the Constitution, not We the People. THEY choose to be criminals, not We the People. It is WE THE PEOPLE who keep this country going, not this trainwreck of a “government”!


  251. I agree with most of what you said, JeffM but, sorry, I do not agree about the Constitution being a living document. Here is what Scalia says about it:

    Is the Constitution A Living Document?

    Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia said in a speech that people who believe that the U.S. constitution is a “living document” are idiots. He said this to the federalist Society, a group founded 1982 on the belief that the top law schools were (and probably still are as far as they are concerned) too liberal.
    “That’s the argument of flexibility and it goes something like this: The Constitution is over 200 years old and societies change. It has to change with society, like a living organism, or it will become brittle and break. But you would have to be an idiot to believe that,” Scalia said. “The Constitution is not a living organism, it is a legal document. It says something and doesn’t say other things.”





    The Center for Disease Control though has noted that Mexico had a strange and rather late season influenza outbreak. This information now coupled with “a new Swine Flu” having infected 7 Americans on the Mexican border regions should set off the alarm bells, when the said virus is a combination of swine, bird and human viruses from Europe, Asia and North America. The Americans recovered from this virus and samples are being looked at by the CDC, but this situation needs to be explained in an al Qaeda context from the international Marxists in protocols in how one spreads a virus or gauges transmission. The reality is this: If one desires to attack the United States with a bioweapon, one uses Chinese shipping and PLA intelligence as a transshipping point for some communist group of Muslim Marxists etc… to drop a concentrated load of germs into a Mexican port. The vials would be pocket aerosol size, like a can of spray on cooking oil. Distribution would be simply going through Mexican markets and inoculating items from clothing, tissues to food. If one desires to join the big leagues, one can distribute a drop shipment of personal items like deodorant with an advanced absorption agent via the skin to seat the germ into the human host. No one would suspect your deodorant was making you sick with influenza. Once one has that fire started, the Obama trend of any border buster is good for his 2012 vote, spreads these human carriers now all through America on their spring migration to the human traffic points across America. There is a massive one operating in Iowa which is designed to spread slave labor to all the rural communities in “dairy” and “poultry” operations. This is how “al Qaeda” would spread an engineered human, bird and swine virus into America with immune hosts from Mexico.

  253. Jeff M,

    No one loves America or the Constitution more than I. However, as long as Obama and his nest of snakes–including Pelosi, Axelgrease, Deadfish Emanuel, Napolitano, Holder, etc. remain in power with MSM and the rest of America pretending, acting, or believing they are legal, we do not have a legal government. We have a tyranny. All they do is illegal. If they are not literally challenged via legal means and removed–all the illegal sh*t they are doing will eventually be claimed to be legal and we will be enslaved. They will claim they had the power to do so because we the people voted Obama to be President.

    Yes we have America, a place on the map. Yes we have a US Constitution that was created to protect “We the People” from government abuse, an obsolete idea to this lawless group. The first violation of the constitution is swearing in of a usurper to pretend he is President. 80% of America either doesn’t know this, doesn’t care, or can’t be bothered.

    What are “WE the People” doing about it other than gossiping, hoping, and holding tea parties–instead of LOUD MARCHES DEMANDING OBAMA STAND UP OR STEP DOWN. We the people, are merely turning the other cheek and sucking our thumbs.



    Remember JeffM, I –at my own expense–am giving away free pocket copies of the Constitution in the spirit of a patriotic effort to restore America. It may not be a very major act, but it is one Constitutional step at a time to take back America–your and my land.

  254. Dang Jeff!!!! Thanks for that (although I do agree with Kim about the “living” part… the Bible isn’t supposed to change with time and society……nor our inspired Constitution).

    I needed that fantastic pep talk! You are so right! Thank you so much! I believe in the Constitution and the foundation of this country being inspired from God. Is Obama bigger than God? Only in his own mind!

  255. Changing the subject for a second, where do y’all think this new flu came from just all of a sudden? Y’all reckon that someone started this puppy on purpose?

    Look at this:

    “As precaution, CDC is preparing the virus as a vaccine seed strain that could be used to make immunizations, she said.

    The swine flu virus contains four different gene segments representing both North American swine and avian influenza, human flu and a Eurasian swine flu, CDC said.

    Not Seen Before

    “We haven’t seen this strain before, but we haven’t been looking as intensively as we are these days,” Schuchat said. “It’s very possible that this is something new that hasn’t been happening before.”

    This is the website: http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aWVM4e9IDstg&refer=worldwide

    It really does make one wonder. At least it did me. Probably because I don’t trust the government now and maybe because they’re okay with terrorists.

  256. Regarding the LaRouche article–I really am not too familiar with his philosophy and his work. Many people have described him a real “nut case” and don’t listen to him. That may be so.

    As you know by what I have written in the past about the tea parties, I just loved them. However, it bothered me that Fox news did not let one Obama birth certificate issue sign appear on their screens. Tax day is over and the stimulus has not been renigged. Other than a lot of noice, what in reality did the tea parties accomplish–which can be of benefit to America not and in the near future?

  257. That flu bug is definitely engineered!

    This is a bioattack using Mexicans as vectors.

    Yahoo updates to 1000 Mexicans ill, 20 dead, 7 Americans infected but not dead.
    Mexico is closing public buildings.
    This could be absolutely devastating.

  258. nawanawanga // April 24, 2009 at 8:04 pm
    That flu bug is definitely engineered!
    This is a bioattack using Mexicans as vectors.
    The WHO said the virus appears to be susceptible to Roche AG’s flu drug Tamiflu, also known as oseltamivir, but not to older flu drugs such as amantadine.

    Magical huh?

  259. I ain’t into conspiracy theories, however, maybe this is a test flu to see what happens. Yeah, let’s get rid of a bunch of Mexicans first, then let’s test fuller doses on Americans. Heck, I don’t know.

    What’s strange to me is that Mexicans are dying and not any Americans. They’re saying it’s the same type too! I am pretty sure there’s stuff that the CDC isn’t telling anyone.

    Hey, y’all remember back several months ago that someplace that worked on flu vaccines in Europe accidently had a mix-up or something and released a live virus flu combination? I’ll have to research that. It was freaking people out and could have caused a very major disaster, but they caught it and recalled the vials of vaccine or something.

  260. To those who agree that we need some how to restore the Constitutional Republic I suggest that, as part of the effort, we work for a provision that requires a license to vote in National Elections. To obtain a license a prospective voter would be required to pass a test, proving that he or she knows what the Constitution says and understands it. Additionally he or she would be required to take an oath to obey and defend the Constitution. We need a license to drive a car, why not to vote?

  261. kittycat,

    Let’s not forget that this might be generated to get eveyone to take that govt vaccine that barry wants. Might be a ploy to do that. Just a thought!!

  262. Here’s a post about it. Interesting, huh? Maybe the same type of thing happened. It does make one wonder:

    “Is this some sort of test or, worse yet, is this a deliberate attempt to jump start a pandemic? How does something like this happen? How in the world does H5N1 AVIAN virus get into human flu vaccine?

    Officials investigate how bird flu viruses were sent to unsuspecting labs
    Provided by: Canadian Press
    Written by: Medical Reporter, THE CANADIAN PRESS
    Feb. 25, 2009

    Officials are trying to get to the bottom of how vaccine manufacturer Baxter International Inc. made “experimental virus material” based on a human flu strain but contaminated with the H5N1 avian flu virus and then distributed it to an Austrian company.

    That company, Avir Green Hills Biotechnology, then disseminated the supposed H3N2 virus product to subcontractors in the Czech Republic, Slovenia and Germany. Authorities in the four European countries are looking into the incident, and their efforts are being closely watched by the World Health Organization and the European Centre for Disease Control.
    Though it appears none of the 36 or 37 people who were exposed to the contaminated product became infected, the incident is being described as “a serious error” on the part of Baxter, which is on the brink of securing a European licence for an H5N1 vaccine. That vaccine is made at a different facility, in the Czech Republic.

    “For this particular incident … the horse did not get out (of the barn),” Dr. Angus Nicoll of the ECDC said from Stockholm.

    “But that doesn’t mean that we and WHO and the European Commission and the others aren’t taking it as seriously as you would any laboratory accident with dangerous pathogens – which you have here.”

    Accidental release of a mixture of live H5N1 and H3N2 viruses – if that indeed happened – could have resulted in dire consequences. Nicoll said officials still aren’t 100 per cent sure the mixture contained live H5N1 viruses. But given that ferrets exposed to the mixture died, it likely did.

    H5N1 doesn’t easily infect people, but H3N2 viruses do. They are one of two types of influenza A viruses that infect people each flu season.

    If someone exposed to the mixture had been co-infected with H5N1 and H3N2, the person could have served as an incubator for a hybrid virus able to transmit easily to and among people. That mixing process, called reassortment, is one of two ways pandemic viruses are created.

    Research published last summer by scientists at the U.S. Centers for Disease Control found that in the laboratory, H5N1 and H3N2 viruses mated readily. While less virulent than H5N1, a number of the offspring viruses appeared to retain at least a portion of the killing power of their dangerous parent.

    Baxter International, which is based in Deerfield, Ill., said the contamination was the result of an error in its research facility in Orth-Donau, Austria.

    The facility had been contracted by Avir Green Hills to make what Baxter refers to as “experimental virus material” based on human H3N2 viruses.

    Christopher Bona, Baxter’s director of global bioscience communications, said the liquid virus product was not a vaccine and was developed for testing purposes only. He deferred questions about the purpose of the testing to Avir Green Hills, but said the batch was to be used in animals and was never intended for use in humans.

    Avir Green Hills said in an email that it took possession of the material in late December. It later sent the product to the sub-contractors. The email said the material was stored and handled throughout under high biosafety conditions.

    Alarm bells rang in early February when researchers at the Czech sub-contractor inoculated ferrets with the material and the animals promptly died. Baxter learned about the problem on Feb. 6, Bona said from Deerfield.

    Ferrets are susceptible to human flu strains, but they don’t die from those infections. Preliminary investigation found the material was contaminated with H5N1 flu virus, which is lethal to ferrets.

    Nicoll said the fact the ferrets died supports the working assumption that there were live H5N1 viruses in the material Baxter produced.

    Bona said Baxter has identified how the contamination happened and has taken steps to ensure it doesn’t happen again. He said Austrian authorities audited Baxter’s Orth-Donau research operations after the problem came to light and are satisfied with the steps taken.

    Baxter is the only flu vaccine manufacturer to work with wild type flu viruses, felt to be more dangerous than the altered and attenuated (weakened) viruses other manufacturers use.

    The company uses what is known as BSL3 level precautions in all its vaccine research facilities, Bona said. (Researchers at the U.S. CDC use BSL3-plus biocontainment when working with H5N1 viruses, a spokesperson for the agency said.)

    People familiar with biosecurity rules are dismayed by evidence that human H3N2 and avian H5N1 viruses have somehow co-mingled in the Baxter research facility. That should not be allowed to happen, a number of experts insisted.

    The company isn’t shedding much light on how it did.

    “It was a combination of just the process itself, (and) technical and human error in this procedure,” Bona said. When asked to elaborate, he said to do so would give away proprietary information about Baxter’s production process.

    Bona said when Baxter realized its error, it helped the various companies destroy the contaminated material and clean up their facilities. And staff who had been exposed to the contaminated product were assessed and monitored by infectious diseases doctors. They were also offered the antiviral drug oseltamivir (Tamiflu).

    Baxter’s error is reminiscent of a 2005 incident where a U.S. manufacturer of kits used by laboratories to test their detection capabilities included vials of H2N2 virus in several thousand proficiency kits. H2N2, the virus that caused the 1957 pandemic, has not circulated since 1968 and is thought to be a prime candidate to cause the next pandemic.

    That mistake, discovered by Canada’s National Microbiology Laboratory, set authorities around the world scrambling to retrieve and destroy the vials of virus, which had been sent to labs in 18 countries. ”


  263. Update: over 1,000 Mexicans known infected, 8 Americans, 60 dead

    I have to fly to socal I’m wearing a mask and I don’t care if I get stares that airplane air is recycled

  264. And now possibly 75 students at a NYC prep school and they’re being tested.

  265. http://www.theamericansentinel.com/james-shott/2009/4/24/barack-obama-the-vindictive-president.html

    For those who may remember, Obama often referred to the word “punishment” whether it be his girls getting pregnant, or Joe the Plumber with his entrepreneurial spirit. Anyone listening to that odd turn of phrase indeed would have known that it is he who is punitive. No surprise there.

  266. sandy,

    No problem. We must put all things into perspective once in a while. If we don’t like what this illegal government is doing, we simply remove it. It’s our Constitutional right to do so.

    But we must remember that there is a time and a place for everything. We must be strong and just in our methods, and our timing must be correct. Do you think our forefathers just jumped the gun? Never! They got prepared, educated others, and struck when the iron was hot. It took nearly a decade to prepare because they only had one shot at victory. We are not at the right crossroads to take corrective action, but we must continue to put the heat on. Our job now is now what theirs was then. This ridiculous excuse for a government is about to get a taste of what We the People are all about.


    I totally understand where you are coming from. However, Soetoro is just a symptom of a bigger problem and that is an evil empire trying to get its hooks into America. They won’t get very far. Half the country are gun-carrying conservatives who love their freedoms very much and are not afraid to spill blood to keep them. The other half is in a fog. Once they start to discover the bennies are ending, they will revolt and riots will ensue. This will make things difficult for the Patriot Movement.

    This is not Europe. This is definitely not even close to Asia. Our roots go deep. Once our lifestyle of liberty is truly threatened to the point people are backed into a corner, watch out America and witness the wrath of the spirit of Liberty!

  267. Kim,

    Sorry, but the Consitution is and always will be a living document!. Society may change but morality and liberty never do. That’s a hogwash argument: society forces common sense, ethics, and morality to go out the window??? So, what you are saying is that because society becomes sick, we simply change a code of law to make it work within the confines of its illness?

    The same principles in the Constitution would suffice for societies 2000 years ago and will suffice for 2000 years to come. It is a living document because we continue to honor its law. We’ve done very little over the past 200 years to change it because it rarely needs changing.

    Justice Scalia thinks he knows all the answers, yet refuses to address the current Constitutional crisis he himself could have prevented. How convenient for him.

  268. Where we disagree is the interpretation of the phrase “living document.” A living document is a flexible document that you change according to what is perceived as changing circumstances. The Constitution was made to encompass all circumstances. It stands as it is. It does not need to be changed, therefore, it is not considered a living document.

  269. Further:

    “A living document is open to interpretation and evolves over time, sometimes resulting in a document that no longer resembles the original in content, form and substance. The US Constitution is not an evolving “living document” as Obama believes it to be. It is not subject to interpretation and reinterpretation depending on which side of the aisle you stand. Historical documents are interpreted within their historical context to find out the intent and meaning of the document. There is absolutely no reason to reinterpret the US Constitution, unless your motives coincide with those of New World Order and One World government proponents.”


  270. Valid point Kim.

    It is a matter of interpretation. By living I mean it remains an active, honored legal document that continues to live without recussitation, alteration, and change.

    It’s essentially a paradox. A living document does not exist in the sense of legal terms as you are referring because the minute it is altered beyond its first meaning it is by all intents a different document altogether. And that makes perfect sense why Soetoro and other wombats feel that they can do what they want based on that definition.

    Excellent discussion.

  271. News is in on Phil’s site that the OK “governor” vetoed the Sovereignty Resolution on a matter of principle of “this is a waste of time”. Really? You mean like watching you swing around in your office chair and tap pencils on your desk all day long?

    I believe it’s time to send some white feathers in an envelope to the office of this chicken livered goon with a nice piece of paper printed with “BOCK BOCK BOCK!!!”

  272. I would like everyone here to please visit this blog. This is a very, very nice, conservative young man, who I have had the pleasure of meeting.

    I call him a part of The Young Republicans. He is getting involved, working, studying and researching.

    His opinions, point of views and concern for our country are so fresh and new.

    We need so many more Young Republicans ( and Democrats ) who will get informed, stand up, speak out and get involved.

    I always look forward to talking to him. He is bold and fresh ( sorry Bill O )

    Would you please visit his site and give him a thumbs up?

    These young men and women are our future. Please help support and encourage them to keep up the good work!


    Thank you all.

  273. JeffM- Your commeent to Kim (Constitution is a living entity) This IS, and has ALWAYS been my belief. I learned this from a very dedicated 5th grade teacher long ago, and I have never in the interim had any reason to question the veracity of her wisdom.

  274. JeffM- That said, I believe that you are dead on.

  275. Hold the press…
    Free Republic website is posting a $25,000,000 reward to Barack Hussein Obama if he will release his real long form Birth Certificate. Lets see if this works!

  276. Fernley Girl

    And here’s the YouTube of Obama saying the Constitution is flawed:

  277. Air Force Brat

    JeffM — all the veto means is that the Resolution will be sent back to the OK Legislature, and a 2/3 vote of both chambers will override Col. Chickenshit’s veto and make HJR-1003 law. Not that we NEED this measure made law on paper, as the Constitution guarantees states’ rights anyway, but there’s something about having things made “official” and put on paper that seems to bolster most people.

    And I agree with you about the Constitution being a living document, but it’s also unchanging at the same time. Some principles are eternal, for lack of a better word to describe them.

  278. truthbetold11

    Swine flu [pigs] Don’t muslims fear pigs or to be buried with them!!! Seems like a easy way to get rid of some pigs!! Time to buy a pig!

  279. air force brat, the soreign bills mean very little on the eiigibility issue, it’s the eligibility issues that need to be put on state menu. so far i only know of one state. Missouri’s logic is scarey, they pulled it saying that the candidates can file a lawsuit to challenge it !@ %^&*? That has been done , see Keyes and it didn’t go anywhere…yet !!DOH! It needs to be stopped at the source, the states , not after the fact. Plus this past time around BOTH candidates were ineligible ,so neither one will file a suit against each other DOH!?!?!? Can some missourian write to their local reps and EXPLAIN THAT THE BUCK STOPS WITH THEM >????<< PLEASE CONTACT THEM AND TELL THEM!!

    it’s time our tea party people moved the venue to hawaii state dept health officials home and stage a good old sit in protest and stay there until they release the birth certificate

    what is so wrong about doing that? We have over 6 million unemployed now , some of them can afford to that in their spare time

  280. truthbetold11

    the group of 30 .now has 29 tim geithners name is gone? google it!

  281. decentAmerican

    25 million for his BC? LOL….if the Usurper had any integrity, he would just release it and give the money to charity….. that would be a big publicity coup for him, but you know he won’t.

    If I was spending 25 million for his BC, I would not just want to see it, but have the opportunity to examine it with forensic experts, I think they would deserve at least that for 25 mil.

  282. Great comments old sale. What I have to say is this:


    That’s right, it doesn’t exist, and never did, meaning that Obama, the Obama Campaign, and Factcheck have committed sixteen counts of felony document fraud at the State and Federal levels.

    OBama’s original long-form birth certificate — if it has not been scrubbed — is sitting in a sealed envelope within a locked vault at Hawaii’s DOH.

    It would be a lose-lose proposition for Obama to forge a long-form birth certificate because, not only will it come under intense scrutiny, but more importantly, the senior officials within Hawaii’s Department of Health would be supoenaed and a warrant issued to obtain all of their records showing who made requests for copies of Obama’s birth record, when requests for copies were received and logged, when printing jobs were issued and run, when copies were certified and stamped, and when they mailed out and to what address.

    ALL of that information has been available but never sought after by any of the lawyers bringing the eligibility lawsuits.

    Any one of them would confirm, as I have, that the image posted on the Internet is of a nonexistent document.

  283. Regarding the swine flu: Please, let’s not jump to conclusions as to where it came from.

    I worked for years in Anti-Terror (specialty: Weaponized Anthrax) and there was always the threat of an H5N1 pandemic in the U.S. Didn’t happen. While it’a prudent to track this via the CDC and WHO, please, let’s get more facts before we call this a ‘deliberate release.’

    Just trying to put this into perspective.

  284. $25 million dollar reward for Birth Certificate?

    I wonder if this will gain some traction?

    Let’s get the word out NOW !! Maybe someone in the media will cover this.

    That’s NOT small potatoes !

  285. redneck sympathizer

    BRILLIANT IDEA about linking offer to a charity of his choice…

  286. what is so wrong about doing that? We have over 6 million unemployed now , some of them can afford to that in their spare time
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~”Unemployed” and “flying to Hawaii” do not belong in the same sentence.

  287. Yeah, i think we should start contacting folks at the American Cancer Society, Breast Cancer Society, etc. and let them know about the reward.

    Might be a good idea to send the people that are offering the reward the suggestion of giving the money to a charity.

    Can you imagine the “heat” Obama would have on him over turning down a $25 million dollar charity donation?

  288. redneck sympathizer

    Like I said SOUTH…good one.

  289. http://www.americanissuesproject.org/soros

    Rasmussen is now exposing George Soros.

  290. If Obama releases a long form birth certificate, who is going to make him give it up for scrutiny? Did anyone get to scrutinize the COLB or was it just posted online?

  291. Kim,

    The document he posted belongs in the National Archives. That allows safe keeping yet full access to anyone who wants to see it.

    OldSalt76, thanks for the interesting background on your education. It appears 95% of all Americans are completed mis-educated on the Constitution, maybe higher. I’m taking a guess that the mis-education began around the 1950’s and worked its way through public and private schools. This has been planned for many years.

  292. Air Force Brat,

    Let us hope the OK HR puts it right back on the table and run up the flagpole again.

  293. Here is George Soros on CNN April 8th commenting on the collapse of the U.S. economy! !

    How ironic!
    Hungarian regulator imposes record fine on Soros investment firm for manipulating the Hungarian market.

    I wonder why didn’t hear about Soros’ manipulating the Hungarian market on CNN, ABC, NBC or any of the major American newspapers???

  294. To Polarik,
    I agree with your assertions completely.

  295. JeffM,

    Is the COLB he posted in the National Archives?

  296. Kim,

    It’s not. But it should be. Here’s what I suggested before. Since we have all seen the COLB and know the COLB ID, it is now public domain.

    Therefore all we need to do is demand the Department of Health in Hawaii to send another copy of the COLB to the National Archives.

    Some are asking “how can we demand them to do anything?”. The answer is simple:

    1. Congress does not vet the President and can’t because it’s not specified in the Constitution.
    2. The DnC and RnC can’t vet the President either because it’s illegal to do so. They are both private organizations.
    3. The Electoral College can’t vet the candidates because it’s not specified in the Constitution.
    4. Therefore Amendment X kicks in.
    5. Since the states don’t vet the President and they say it’s not in their “power” to do so, Amendment X says this power belongs to We the People.

    That’s right folks. WE THE PEOPLE have the power under the U.S. Constitution to vet ALL candidates. Technically the states have first crack at this but they’ve decided to waive that power. If Hawaii fails to send a copy of the COLB to the National Archives, we can convene a Grand Jury and force them to do so. We can also subpeona any records used to vet a candidate. If the judicial branches of state and local governments refuse, we go Quo Warranto against them via Grand Jury.

    It’s really that simple. That’s why Americans are so irritated by this entire situation. It is our right and our duty to vet candidates. And we have 100% power to do so. Time to move forward and convene as many Constitutional Grand Juries as we can and will get the information that we requested. Why? Because it’s our right as guaranteed under the U.S. Constitution.

  297. I believe I have just discovered the ultimate lawsuit that really needs to proceed:

    Litigate against the DnC and RnC for stealing our vetting rights away, rights guaranteed to us under Amendment X of the U.S. Constitution.

    They are the ones who caused this eligibility mess and any prior messes. THEY have stripped away our rights to ensure eligibility under the U.S. Constitution. And THEY are being illegal because they can not and should not guarantee eligibility of their candidates because they don’t have the power OR authority to do so!

    I may contact an attorney on this one, a true blue “Constitutional Rights” expert. I don’t have a tremendous amount of money, but perhaps we can create a class action suit.

  298. Thank you, JeffM, that’s why I push. Because we’re all sitting around knowing what should be, but things haven’t been what they should be for a long time.

  299. Kim,

    I completely understand where you are coming from. What is and what should be are two distinct entities.

    To make what is what should be we have several options:

    1. Wait for the government to act (hope you have a really long calendar for this one)
    2. Protest (this encourages government to act; see item 1)
    3. Go the legal route (pray for just attorneys and judges)
    4. Go to war

    Normally forcing government to act has been fairly effective in the past. However, times have changed and our government cares nothing about the ministerial duties. This makes it nearly impossible to get things done.

    Option 4 is a last resort. However, based on the sheer corruption in multiple ranks of government, both at the state and federal levels, this option is getting too close for comfort…

  300. The number of distractions recently keeps increasing daily—I believe it is “their” desperate attempt to get the majority of Patriots away from the BIRTH CERTIFICATE issue.

    Must have the B-Day Tea Party Rallies Nationwide in May.

  301. JeffM

    Actually, it is the free press that’s suppose to vet candidates for WE THE PEOPLE.

    Unfortunately , we no longer have a free press.

    If you look though history , the press is the first to come under control .

  302. JeffM, we gave the major political parties the ‘right’ to vet the candidates for POTUS, and to put the names of their nominees, however they arrived at these names, onto the general election ballots in our states. We failed to enact any legislation that requires the state to verify Constitutional eligibility to be POTUS. Now, of course, in those states where the law requires the Party to certify such eligibility; providing a Certification of Nomination is tantamount to certifying that nominee is Constitutionally eligible for the job, especially given that, for example, the DNC rules state their candidate for POTUS will at least be Constitutionally eligible. In other words, even given only existing laws, it would appear that, stating unequivocally, BO is Constitutionally eligible to be POTUS constitutes fraud, when the strongest evidence of such eligibility he has proffered is a COLB which, by law, does not even establish he was born in HI.


  304. Obama needs to forge a vault BC. The only persons who’ve seen his actual BC, may meet the same end as Kellerman, Harris, Bland and Young. Man, I’d beat feet out of Hawaii if I were one of those officials!!! Of course I’d take a couple hundred pictures first and send them to an overseas server.


  306. SueK // April 25, 2009 at 11:25 am

    Regarding the swine flu: Please, let’s not jump to conclusions as to where it came from.
    on msnbc
    8 of 9 student specimens test probable for swine flu, NYC health official says
    Odd we have all seen rep0rts on the concerns about bird flu and now this comes out of nowhere? Is this an intentional distraction?

  307. redneck sympathizer

    Please call about Ron Paul’s bill (1207) on MONDAY.Details at JBS website.He is seeking audit of the FED.This is the head of the hydra!

  308. Hello Eagle,

    Testing for any virus such as this takes up to a week, maybe more. Preliminary findings are fine, but we still don’t know.

    Viruses mutate over the course of time and have caused a multitude of outbreaks throughout history however, this particular strain has never been seen. The U.S., to my knowledge, doesn’t have a system in place to track viruses in pigs so I’m really not quite sure if this strain can be called a ‘natural mutation’ or ‘created.’

    How hard is it to track even where Salmonella came from in a bag of spinach? Remember all the scares attributed to Salmonella?

    Many ‘bugs’ seemingly come out of nowhere and will make a certain percentage of the population sick. Usually the numbers are low, at least in the U.S. Is this a distraction? I don’t know; I think to answer this question we need to watch exactly how many people have/will contract it. I would be very suspicious if all of a sudden folks started to present with swine flu symptoms in large numbers.

    I will check with my sources when I get back to work on Monday and see what they think. We all hit the panic button with H5N1, so this is why I say that we need to check this out thoroughly.

    Awareness? Yes. Panic? Not at this point.

  309. I just read on RiseupforAmerica.com:

    **** OHIO RETURNS INDICTMENT AT 12:30 PM EST 4/25/09****

    —— We’re all in this together —–

    Have any of you heard any new news on the Georgia indictment?
    Texas and Illinois are coming up early May and I believe there are 20 more states picking American Grand Jurys.
    Any more info? Linda

  310. truthbetold11

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  311. “I will check with my sources when I get back to work on Monday and see what they think. We all hit the panic button with H5N1, so this is why I say that we need to check this out thoroughly.”

    My concern right now is for my daughter. Not me. She’s five months pregnant and already has a lousy immune system. She’s had so much medical on her back problems, injections, which has had so many that it’s screwed up now worse, crooked. I’m sure all the meds that she’s been on in the recent past haven’t helped her poor immune system when one pill she took made her feel sick eating. And she lives in an area that a whole lot of people come through, near Ft. Hood.

  312. As far as this flu is concerned, I have no idea where it came from. The article that I posted last night was something that I was just throwing out there. You can see how easy it is for them to mess up on these things when handling these viruses and cause a major problem. Be that as it may, it could have been something someone made up and was testing it to see how it worked. I wouldn’t put it past someone for doing such. There’s just so much evil in this world right now, anyway.

  313. The Reason the Left Must Destroy the USA


  314. Polarik, I have followed your story, and your reports, pertaining to the fake colb, posted by the Obama campaign. Thank you for everything you have done to expose the fraud. Earlier your comment said ,” Barry’s long form birth certificate is sitting in an envelope at the Hawain DOH”. Do you think the certificate, in the envelope, is a British document, or a Hawaiin document? Do you have an opinion, as to what country is listed, as his place of birth? Do you think any of the information, on the fake colb, would match any of the information on his long form document? Can the log of activity, pertaining to his vault copy, be examined, or is that sealed, as well?

  315. JeffM,

    Why can’t we learn from Gandhi–Why not march to Washington DC. starting in California all the way. We can carry our signs–OBAMA, STAND UP OR STEP DOWN. We can include other signs–Happy Birthday. Sorry if we missed the right day for your birthday, we have never seen your true bityhday to know the right day. March, march, and march. Balloons during the day that wish Obama a happy birthday. Candles at night. March, march, march. Obama, stand up or step down. This is a fifth choice. Sooner or later MSM has to broadcast the eligibility issue.

  316. meant to say birth certificate

  317. Therese Daniels // April 25, 2009 at 8:43 pm

    There is no BC , but suppose there was , and he showed you a legit BC and it showed he was born in America.

    What would you say to that?.

    Would you be happy…….

  318. Yes, Kittycat, I understand your concerns. We all should be concerned and track this story.

    You’re right-mistakes handling this stuff are more common than you realize. Remember Stephen King’s book ‘The Stand?’ The basis was a ‘superflu’ that decimated most of the population. Let’s just hope that it wasn’t intentional-with Al Qaeda constantly chattering about bio, chem, and nuclear weapons we do need to pay close attention to anything like this, whatever the source.

    And thanks for posting the article- I checked it out when you posted. It is curious, but unfortunately, it’s a ‘wait and see’ type thing. There have been outbreaks before as I mentioned-we just need to see what course this one takes.

    I will post any news on this story as I get it from my colleagues.

    I hope your daughter will be OK through her pregnancy-sounds as if she’s been through a lot already. Prayers are on the way for her. If she’s aware of this story, I’m sure she’ll take the proper precautions to fend any bug off that’s out there. Awareness is so important!

  319. Army D.A.V., At least we would know we have a legal president!

  320. bob strauss
    How’s that Bob.

  321. bob strauss // April 25, 2009 at 9:20 pm

    Army D.A.V., At least we would know we have a legal president!


    Bob, not with a Kenyan daddy we wouldn’t if, in fact, Sr. IS his biological daddy!

  322. If Barry was to come up with a legal not forged BC. You asked Therese, what would she think if he did.

  323. SueK // April 25, 2009 at 9:25 pm

    bob strauss // April 25, 2009 at 9:20 pm

    Army D.A.V., At least we would know we have a legal president!


    Bob, not with a Kenyan daddy we wouldn’t if, in fact, Sr. IS his biological daddy!


    Not to mention his Indonesian citizenship , immigration papers, passport, no selective service registration, , no legal name change, , etc,,,,

  324. Army D.A.V. I stand corrected, not eligible based on what we know.

  325. Army D.A.V. and Bob,

    Yes, too much evidence and he doesn’t bother to set the record straight, because he *can’t!*

    I work with a bunch of Obots and ask them one question: ‘Why has he now paid attorneys over $1M to keep all these records hidden from the American people, when these these documents have been requested multiple times?’

    I hear crickets. Many crickets.

    No sense even discussing the other issues Army D.A.V. mentions because the sheeples just don’t get it.

  326. Personally, I don’t really freak out with the flu. I’ve had it many, many times in my life, and the last flu shot that I got, like 14 years ago, I happened to get a bad batch of it. I worked at a hospital and they were giving out free shots to employees. Turns out that I got part of a bad batch, as well as nurses in another hospital that was the same chain got the same bad batch. Boy, was I ill! I said, I’m never having another flu shot again. That same year my husband got a flu shot and still got the flu that year. He said, what’s the use in getting it?

    Well, for 13 years my husband and I didn’t get the flu at all and no flu shots. Then about two years ago we got the flu when he had to go to the doctor’s office for a cyst on his arm. He got the flu from the doctor’s office too. Then I got it and we thought that we’d die from it, although we did go to the doctor.

    Last year in April, we got something like the flu and got pneumonia immediately from it, but it seemed a bit different than the regular flu. Both of us had never had pneumonia before. It was weird.

    Actually, I don’t really freak out about it. I think that a flu virus can be planted by whoever and that shouldn’t be that difficult for them. I’m not saying it was planted, but it’s still a strange flu. Heck, Pharaoh BO went to Mexico a little before. Maybe he planted it.

  327. This is from Drudge: http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aEsNownABJ6Q&refer=worldwide

    below is just a little paste of the article…

    “Obama’s Visit

    The first case was seen in Mexico on April 13. The outbreak coincided with the President Barack Obama’s trip to Mexico City on April 16. Obama was received at Mexico’s anthropology museum in Mexico City by Felipe Solis, a distinguished archeologist who died the following day from symptoms similar to flu, Reforma newspaper reported. The newspaper didn’t confirm if Solis had swine flu or not. “

  328. We should send all our trading partners the dossiers , maybe they would be interested enough to question the US government about his secret identity .

    All the foreign treaties and trade agreements he signs are bogus.

  329. This is the headline at Drudge:


    Look, everyone, every place BO goes, someone seems like they’re dying…..

  330. Army D.A.V.

    It’s not about the birth certificate. It is about his eligibility to be President. With or without a birth certificate Obama is not eligible under the US Constitution. The birth certificate is merely the symbol of the issue. There are a whole lot more documents including the BC he has to produce.

    However, if Obama produced legitimate documents that proved he is eligible to be our legal president, I would respect he is our legal president. Believe it or not, I would feel better because I would no longer have the feeling he and the gang stole the whitehouse and flim/flammed America.

    I will never accept his political philosophy, his violation of the Constitution on so many issues, and his humiliating America to the rest of the world.

  331. Therese: Jus Soli Jus Sanguinus
    If he’s born of Ann and Barack Sr., he can NEVER be eligible no matter WHAT he produces.

  332. kittycat // April 25, 2009 at 10:14 pm

    Right…lots of strange stuff going around lately and the advent of the warmer weather doesn’t seem to matter. If you get no other shot, please get the pneumonia shot.

    It is a strange flu, but the CDC is saying that both Relenza and Tamiflu may work on it.

    I just saw the report on Drudge. The timing is odd. It’d be very unlikely that Soetoro would travel with a biological ‘vial.’ If it was imported to Mexico, there had to be another way. I say this because one mistake would contaminate the transporter and everyone around him. I don’t think that they’d allow The Chosen One to do something like that-too risky.

    Not at all sure how it may have gotten there, but initial contact seems to be via infected swine, of which there are plenty in Mexico.

    I also find it odd that whenever something pops up about his eligibility (and he’s hearing about it, believe me), another crisis seems to occur, as Eagle alluded to.

    Just be prepared for a cover-up of Biblical proportions if this release is intentional.

  333. Therese Daniels // April 25, 2009 at 10:23 pm

    However, if Obama produced legitimate documents that proved he is eligible to be our legal president, I would respect he is our legal president.


    What we are trying to tell you is , if he did produce legitimate documents it would not matter , he is still not a NBC.

    To start with,both parents must be US citizens , child must be born on American soil to meet the requirements of a natural born citizen.

    Second, no dual citizenships……….or dual loyalties.

    What I want to know is do we still have a Constitution and American Sovereignty or are we living under a fascist regime already.

  334. “I also find it odd that whenever something pops up about his eligibility (and he’s hearing about it, believe me), another crisis seems to occur, as Eagle alluded to.”

    Hi, Sue:

    Yes, I notice too how stuff pops up when the issues about his eligibility comes around. Did you read what those flus were? I read something about a Euro-Asian swine flu, and something else, maybe Mexican, then an Avian flu mixture with a human virus. Have you heard this? I’ve read there’s two swine mixtures in it.

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  337. Army D.A.V.,

    It is not the duty of the free press or anyone else to vet candidates. It is our duty to do so. If the states want to vet candidates it’s in their power to do so. Otherwise, no other body is Constitutionally allowed to.

    We gave no such authority to allow the DnC or RnC to vet candidates because it is not ours to give. In the past this hasn’t, with one exception, been an issue because eligibility has been self-evident with other candidates. States are the only ones who can enact legislature regarding this issue. We can not create legislature of our own.

  338. Theresa Daniels wrote:

    “Why can’t we learn from Gandhi–Why not march to Washington DC. starting in California all the way.”

    By all means we can learn quite a bit from Ghandi. But let me ask a question. Do you really think the tyrannical government we are dealing with really cares about our right for redress when they give our money, our secrets, and our sovereignty over to our enemies while they burn copies of the Constitution at the same time?

    I do agree peaceful attempts to resolve this crisis are necessary. But I also think everyone here should go to the firing range and practice their skills…just in case.

  339. kittycat // April 25, 2009 at 11:14 pm

    “I also find it odd that whenever something pops up about his eligibility (and he’s hearing about it, believe me), another crisis seems to occur, as Eagle alluded to.”

    Hi, Sue:

    Yes, I notice too how stuff pops up when the issues about his eligibility comes around. Did you read what those flus were? I read something about a Euro-Asian swine flu, and something else, maybe Mexican, then an Avian flu mixture with a human virus. Have you heard this? I’ve read there’s two swine mixtures in it.


    Hi Kittycat,

    Yup, have heard about the flu combos. I’m scratching my head on that one because it’s tough for me to believe that kind of combo would occur in nature. If it did, there’d have to be a very precise environment for it to happen and a whole heap of strange mutations to get it to the form it’s in now.

    Right now, there’s no vaccine to combat it, even though two of the standard anti-virals may work. You’ve gotta wonder about how this virus came to be.

    Don’t want to say ‘engineered’ for certain at this point, even though that’s what’s being reported. I have a few e-mails in, so let me see what I can get from those who know the science better than I do.

    Something else that’s puzzling: Mexicans are dying; Americans are **not.** Could it have begun in Mexico and as it moved into the U.S., and gotten weaker as its moved along the pipeline, or is it simply that Americans have a better immune response due to our health care system and standard of living?

    Whatever the reason, the first punch appeared in Mexico; I’ve not read anything about any other part of the world except the U.S. and Mexico.

    This is definitely something I’ll be pursiung next week.

  340. JeffM // April 25, 2009 at 11:57 pm

    Army D.A.V.,

    It is not the duty of the free press or anyone else to vet candidates. It is our duty to do so. If the states want to vet candidates it’s in their power to do so. Otherwise, no other body is Constitutionally allowed to.


    The old forth Branch of federal government debate, not what I was referring to.

    Too long of subject to discuss here………

    In short ” We the people ” are all of the above.

    All of the above is Constitutionally allowed to vet candidates or question the government.

    Of course all this is meaningless because we no longer have a free press….. hence the tyrannical government.

  341. Army D.A.V.,

    I do see where you are going with this, but the bottom line is free press can ask all the questions they want. Only the states OR We the People have the right to vet candidates and Presidents under Amendment X.

    The fourth branch of the government has never been free press. It’s always been We the People and it will continue that way, provided we uphold its authority.

    The free press is our tool to do what We the People deem is necessary to defend the Constitution. They are our means for public investigation. It’s been that way for a long time, until the turn of the century when free press decided to teabag constituants instead of providing a service to We the People.

    (Apologies for the teabagging statement, but I couldn’t resist)

  342. JeffM, here is the requirement to get onto the general election ballot in the State of GA, under the Official Code of GA Annotated (O.C.G.A.), §21-2-5, Qualifications of candidates for federal and state office; determination of qualifications. “Every candidate for federal and state office who is certified by the state executive committee of a political party … shall meet the constitutional and statutory qualifications for holding the office being sought.” (Note: President, U.S. Senator, or U.S. Representative are federal offices.) This means that, according to GA law, when the state Party chair submits the Party nominee to the Secretary of State (“S of S”) to be put onto the general election ballot, that nominee must be eligible for the office sought. But GA voters enacted no corresponding law that says the S of S receiving this paperwork from the state Party chair must verify this eligibility.

    If GA voters had enacted a law that says, the S of S is responsible for vetting the candidate for POTUS from the major political party as to Constitutional eligibility, and she failed to vet BO then, a GA voter could have rushed into state court with a complaint in Mandamus and obtained a court order to compel her to vet him.

    Now do you understand my previous comment regarding who is responsible for vetting the candidate?

  343. jbjd,

    I know exactly what your comment is. However, what you are referring to is State statute that says the state of GA is responsible for ensuring eligibility without accountability.

    So, who’s responsible for ensuring this? It’s simple: anyone who’s involved with the electoral college. This means the following are libel for ensuring eligibility:

    1. The SoS
    2. The Governor
    3. Any state organization who places the candidates on the ballot

    The law doesn’t have to be explicit on the responsibility as it’s evident who handles the votes for presidential candidates.

    It’s like saying employees of companies don’t have to care about dumping toxic waste into rivers because the law doesn’t state who is to blame.

  344. Very importment , need help to stop hate crime bill 1913………..Attack on free speech.


  345. JeffM, you keep insisting I am dispensing incorrect information, notwithstanding I provide legal cites but, fail to support your opposing views. 1. Nothing in the Constitution or federal or state law requires the EC to vet the candidate for POTUS as to Constitutional eligibility. 2. No provision of any federal or state law requires any government official to vet the candidate for POTUS for Constitutional eligibility.

    If you ‘believe’ otherwise, provide some evidence that supports your position.

  346. What do you think of the latest Obama As Jesus depiction. Is it just to diss Christians?

    It reminds me of this picture:

    “Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain,” roared the Wizard of Oz.

    His head does not bleed from thorns, he is a fake messiah, his crown is not real, he does not suffer or work for us, he smirks.

    He’s not a “PResident” he’s just a “RESIDENT”

  347. There are some states which I know REQUIRE the SOS to ascertain the constitutional eligibility of the POTUS candidate, and they failed.

  348. Isn’t the offer up to $25 million now for his vault BC? Wow, and I know the president of the class of 1983 from Columbia, who was also a polysci graduate, does not remember OBama and he offered him $1million to see his transcripts.

    Hey that’s easy money! I’d show my transcripts and bc for a fraction of that!

  349. (sorry CW the links were off kilter, here’s better)
    What do you think of the latest Obama As Jesus depiction. Is it just to diss Christians?

    It reminds me of this picture:

    “Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain,” roared the Wizard of Oz.

    His head does not bleed from thorns, he is a fake messiah, his crown is not real, he does not suffer or work for us, he smirks.

    He’s not a “PResident” he’s just a “RESIDENT”

  350. Air Force Brat

    jbjd, EXACTLY who are you? Are you an attorney? Are you a judge? Are you a law student? I don’t think you’ve ever answered that question, even though you’ve been asked by several posters. All we ever see is blah, blah, blah, I’m superior and have all the answers, blah, blah, blah, JeffM is wrong and I’m right, blah, blah, blah, I think I’ll put in 200 more multi-syllable words to impress everyone with my immense knowledge, blah, blah, blah.

    I’ll go with JeffM, who can say something in less than 500 words and doesn’t talk down to everyone.

  351. jbjd.. Does this mean that the GA. State executive committee of the Democrat political party was responsible for vetting Obama?

  352. I was drawn to the Citizen Wells website because I found him to be a man of faith who is diligently seeking truth. I check in often because most of the people who post here are kindred spirits and provide a wealth of knowledge and information. In my opinion, this is the best blog on the internet; no graphics, no advertising, no junk, just honest commentary.

    However, discernment reveals that a few who frequent here have been disseminating misinformation and intimidation. We know who you are and we recognize your intentions, so please MoveOn. We are united in our cause of revealing the truth about the “usurper” and cannot allow ourselves to be sidetracked with non edifying criticism and contention.

  353. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124061268797954397.html

    Judd Gregg: “headed on an unsustainable path”.
    After Bush administration, Republicans are quickly redefining the path. Rasmussen poll indicates 53% believe next president will be Republican.

    I guess many of us wonder is there will be a 2012 election.

  354. Army D.A.V

    I thought I already answered the fact I know Obama isn’t eligible to be President even if he did produce documents. I am very well aware of all the arguments regarding duel citizenship.

    The second question “. . .are we still a Republic under a Constitution . . .you didn’t ask it exactly like that but are we now a fascist country. . .

    As long as Obama is a usurper and remains in office unchallenged by a spineless judicial system playing legal gymnastics with our laws–we are a fascist/tyranny and no no longer a Republic under the rule of the Constitution.

    Obama and Congress are at this moment totally lawless operating from the seat of the wild ideas intoxicated with stolen power.

    It seems to me the British in India were just as lawless as our current administration is now. Gandhi’s peacful protests and marches were symbolically the blood of the cause. In Catholicism–The Blood of the martyrs was the seed of the church. Here we have a unique situation–at least 80% or more of the American voters still do not know or believe that Obama is a usurper by reason of lack of understanding or simply denial of the facts. MSM did a wonderful job in suppressing the facts on this issue. Most people think if they haven’t heard it on MSM than how can it be so?

    A Gandhi-like march would be a loud and major act to force the facts to come forward and the administration to deal with the issue–Obama stand up or step down. The purpose of the march would become the seed of truth.

    We already know from Janet Napolitano’s HSD Report that we are now categorized as American Terrorists. We already know Obama thugs know they are guilty of a coup de’etat and that is why they will do everything the can to make the innocent look guilty. We know, that if we come forward in too strong, too honest, too committed, and too many they will shoot at us. I am as certain of that as God made little green apples.

    This is a total lawless, tyrannical, intoxicated administration. The day they start shooting and killing us is the day of their doom. Then the blood of the martyrs will truly be the seed of our cause–take back America. Restore America to the Republic under God. . .”

  355. Maybe someone here can search this group out , they claim to have the school papers for Soetoro.

    Dr. Orly is looking for these records…….


    April 1, 2009

    AP- WASHINGTON D.C. – In a move certain to fuel the debate over Obama’s
    qualifications for the presidency, the group “Americans for Freedom of
    Information” has released copies of President Obama’s college transcripts
    from Occidental College. Released today, the transcript indicates that
    Obama, under the name Barry Soetoro, received financial aid as a foreign
    student from Indonesia as an undergraduate at the school. The transcript
    was released by Occidental College in compliance with a court order in a
    suit brought by the group in the Superior Court of California. The
    transcript shows that Obama (Soetoro) applied for financial aid and was
    awarded a fellowship for foreign students from the Fulbright Foundation
    Scholarship program. To qualify, for the scholarship, a student must claim
    foreign citizenship. This document would seem to provide the smoking gun
    that many of Obama’s detractors have been seeking.


  356. I would advise all bloggers to pay attention to the swine flu epidemic now evolving into a pandemic. keep in mind that Napolatano will abuse her DHS authority to issue a madate against any public gatherings. This could also be an attempt for the government to quell all future tea parties or protests of any kind. I would conclude DHS is up to no good. please pay attention as the US MSM has under reported this situation. As of today I have taken notice of the Sunday news cycle and how suddenly it is Sunday’s leading topic. Use your common sense before making a decsion as to how severe epidemic is. Barry and his oppurtunistic thugs will take advantage of this strategic,man made crisis to further their evil agendas.

  357. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/talking_point/8018428.stm

    BBC has reported personal accounts of the swine flu in Mexico, including hospital personnel.

  358. jbjd, I read your comment @ ( 4/25/09 2:36pm ) You said:”when the strongest evidence of such eligibility he has proffered is a COLB”. After reading “Polarik’s” comment @ (4/25/09 11:23 am) all of the speculation about the, birth certificate, issue takes on a different meaning. The COLB is a fictitious document, generated to defraud the voters. The fraud, “Polarik” mentions, are serious crimes, that were perpetrated, on the voters, in the election. What is your take, on this massive amount, of fraud? Do you think there will ever be a prosecution of the fraud, perpetrated by the “Obama” campaign, and the DNC, et al ?

  359. Army D.A.V., That is some pretty potent, and damaging, information, about our usurper president, especially the part about Scalia, and Donofrio. Why haven’t we heard this before?

  360. All need to go to jbjd site and read his stuff. My opinion, he has a legal background but cannot get to involved. He contends barry was elected by the people, received the electors votes and confirmed by congress. All facts.

    He also contends barry has to be impeached by congress to be removed.

    I believe I understand all being said. Simple fact is barry was dishonest and allowed himself to get on the ballot. Apppears all ballots says you have to be qualified to be president. Qualified means constitutionally. Its a fact, barry did not read the qualifications. Maybe that is the only thing he failed to do, ha!!

    Enjoy: http://jbjd.wordpress.com/

  361. Army DAV

    I ready this was an april food joke as was chevy/ ford being dropped from nascar by barry.

    I like for it to be true, tho.

  362. bob strauss // April 26, 2009 at 12:25 pm

    Army D.A.V., That is some pretty potent, and damaging, information, about our usurper president, especially the part about Scalia, and Donofrio. Why haven’t we heard this before?


    Bob, I saw this article when it came out, but the ‘popular’ opinion was that it was an April Fools joke. Doesn’t sound like a joke to me and why would someone post this type of ‘joke?’

    I haven’t seen any Occidental College records and I’ve never heard of this group. Has anyone? We’ve always been under the impression that Soetoro chose to seal his college records as well, because they *may* show him as a foreign student studying under a federal grant or scholarship.

    If this is true and the group can be verified and the information released, then he’s nailed. However, I feel that somehow, he and his handlers will figure out a way to wiggle out of it…

  363. Fernley Girl

    Kittycat posted this:

    kittycat // April 24, 2009 at 8:42 pm

    Here’s a post about it. Interesting, huh? Maybe the same type of thing happened. It does make one wonder:

    “Is this some sort of test or, worse yet, is this a deliberate attempt to jump start a pandemic? How does something like this happen? How in the world does H5N1 AVIAN virus get into human flu vaccine?

    Officials investigate how bird flu viruses were sent to unsuspecting labs
    Provided by: Canadian Press
    Written by: Medical Reporter, THE CANADIAN PRESS
    Feb. 25, 2009

    Officials are trying to get to the bottom of how vaccine manufacturer Baxter International Inc. made “experimental virus material” based on a human flu strain but contaminated with the H5N1 avian flu virus and then distributed it to an Austrian company. ~snip~

    AND NOW Baxter International is working to create a vaccine for the current strain of swine flu. When I heard the name of the company this morning on the news I came back to check kittycat’s post. Maybe I’m getting too suspicious, but ……….create a flue, cure a flu??? And, of course, make a little money in the process????????????

  364. bob strauss, when I drafted that military Complaint in November/December, I posited that, the strongest evidence that existed to support BO is a NBC is that COLB. That’s why BO posted it; that’s why he got FactCheck to support it; that’s why Congress used it to tell their constituents to go to hell. And that’s why I put references supporting these positions, in the FACTS section. A couple of months later, when Berg filed the Hollister case, BO exposed his hand; that is, in addition to asking the court to dismiss the case, he also asked the court to take judicial notice that, FactCheck said, he’s for real. This confirmed for me my theory that, the COLB was the strongest evidence he COULD produce to establish he is a NBC. And, of course, EVEN ASSUMING THIS IS A BONA FIDE DOCUMENT, which I do for the sake of these arguments, this still does not establish even that he was born in HI, given HI law regarding the registration of foreign births.

    Rocknee, thank you for that recommendation. I work real hard to answer questions on my blog, which will inform everyone as to how our government works so that we can fix it. Just this point of clarification. I have no knowledge as to whether all states have enacted laws that say, the candidate for POTUS from the major political parties must be Constitutionally eligible for the job before appearing on the state’s general election ballot. In fact, some state laws merely say, the nominee from the major political party is “entitled” to be on the ballot. Obviously, before the next election, we need to change state laws. Because BO could not have been President if his name did not appear on the general election ballot.

  365. amy, yes and no. See, the law only says, the party’s nominee will be eligible. It does not say, the party will vet such eligibility. Obviously, the implication is, the party will vet. And if I was a GA voter, I would argue, enacting a law requiring the party candidate to be eligible, without requiring the party to vet the candidate as to eligibility, would mean nothing! Further, I would argue that, since the party rules dictate the nominee will at least be Constitutionally eligible for the job, the party has assumed the responsibility for vetting. However, given the fact that, the strongest evidence BO has produced is that COLB and that we know under HI law that COLB means nothing; then on what basis did NP certify BO was the nominee ergo that he was Constitutionally eligible? And if/when the state D party chair submitted her certification to the GA S of S to get BO’s name on the general election ballot, was that fraud? GA voters should be flooding the GA AG with complaints of fraud against the state party chair and/or NP, whoever submitted the certification of nomination. (NP was Chair of the 2008 Democratic Convention.)

  366. I almost forget–Don’t miss this program. Pastor Maning is the guest

    Mark your calendar
    don’t miss this broadcast


    Sunday night (04-26-09) 6 p.m. to 8 p.m. Pacific Standard Time

    • Obama bows to King of Arabia, hugs Hugo, praises Castro and humiliates America with unnecessary apologies
    • Janet Napolitano identifies every American who criticizes the current government as a TERRORIST
    • Obama releases CIA interrogation memos
    • Possible prosecution of Bush Administration for alleged harsh interrogation of Gitmo prisoners
    • David Kellerman, CFO of Freddie MAC—suicide or?
    • Obama wants total control of the inter net
    • George Soros pushing for Bush administration prosecution (is Soros Obama’s puppet master?)

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  367. Sue K, If the article at “Anglers” site is legitimate Barry’s “goose is cooked “. Can you send that story to Dr Taitz? I have been trying to send it to her but have failed ,so far. Thank you.

  368. nawa…, capitalizing the word “KNOW” would be unnecessary if you posted cites. I have found no state law that requires the S of S or, Election Officials – in some states, officials other than the S of S oversee ballots – to vet the candidate from the major political party as to Constitutional eligibility. This is the reason that any mandamus case brought in state court failed. That is, mandamus only lies to persuade the court to compel a state official to carry out a ministerial duty, which is a duty spelled out in law. And no law spells out any official must vet the candidate for POTUS for Constitutional eligibility. (These failed mandamus cases have sought to imply such a duty but, the judicial branch of government – the courts – will not tell the executive branch of government – state government officials – what to do, absent a clear requirement from the legislative branch of government – state legislatures who wrote the laws – that this function is a requirement of the job.

  369. jbjd, Could it be argued, senate resolution 511, vetted both, Obama, and Mccain, and anyone else that would ever run for President?

  370. Now the US is under a public health emergency. See, now they’re talking about how the strain can also get worse. This is just crazy.

  371. That was an April Fools joke making fun of us “birthers.”
    I do, however, believe the Ogre attended as an Indonesian or Kenyan

  372. bob strauss: SR 511 did not vet EITHER McCain nor Obama. Why?
    SR 511 defines in its verbage that a Natural Born Citizen is a child born of two US Citizen parents on US soil.
    McCain, as it turns out, was not born on a military base because it was not built until 5 years after he was born, though both his parents were US citizens.
    Obama was not born of two US citizen parents and has not proffered proof that he was born on US soil.
    And Jindal was born on US soil but neither of his parents were US Citizens when he was born.

  373. bob strauss, that Senate resolution is non-binding. The Congressional Record is replete with such flotsam and jetsam. (We are perhaps more accustomed to seeing these non-binding resolution in the form of honoring war heroes from local districts.)

    That said, what is useful from that ‘useless’ process is this. Several people involved, including distinguished law professor Larry Tribe, finessed their words to make it sound like they were concluding JMc is a NBC because he was born ON a military base; but they said no such thing.

    To put things into perspective, here is what Professor Tribe placed into the Congressional Record during the passage of non-binding Senate Resolution 511, declaring Senator John McCain is a NBC, in April 2008.

    “[B]ased on the original meaning of the Constitution, the Framers’ intentions, and subsequent legal and historical precedent, Senator McCain’s birth to parents who were U.S. citizens, serving on a U.S. military base in the Panama Canal Zone in 1936, makes him a “natural born Citizen” within the meaning of the Constitution.”


    See? Clever, huh.

  374. Did anybody see that Liz Cheney debate with MSNBC’s Nora O? It was quite impressive. She made Nora look like a partisan, prattling, overly emotional idiot! Nora cares more about the American image abroad than saving American lives using enhanced interrogation techniques. Liz stuffed it to her…..a real pleasure to watch.

    Rasmussen has Ovomit losing 1.1 approval points for every ten days in office so far….LOL

  375. Hi Kittycat,

    Yup, just got the swine flu news flash locally. I’m trying to dig further:



    Bob Strauss, I will try to get the link to Orly. Where none of us knows whether or not this was a joke, as Sandy says, it’d be worth checking out.

    Let me try. If it doesn’t work, I’ll try to post the link on her blog.


    What’s your reaction to the messianic hoopla surrounding Barack Obama?



    100 days in office, coronated Messiah –


  377. Sue K I checked at the Daily Mail site and can find no such story, I looked for the Americans for Freedom of Information site, and there is none. I think it was bogus, I guess we’ll have to email Kreep.

  378. JBJD-
    In reading your comment relating to the State of GA. law it all sounds as though there are NO specific state laws that requires the vetting of a POTUS candidate by anyone. Do I have this reght?

  379. typo——reght=right

  380. I believe the CA SOS does require candidates to be constitutionally eligible; in the past they have rejected candidates for age and birthplace reasons.

  381. $25 million reward to Barack Hussein Obama birth certificate


  382. bob strauss // April 26, 2009 at 3:02 pm

    Sue K I checked at the Daily Mail site and can find no such story, I looked for the Americans for Freedom of Information site, and there is none. I think it was bogus, I guess we’ll have to email Kreep.


    Bob, I did get an e-mail through to Orly and nothing has bounced back. I’m sure she and her staff are aware of it.

    I guess my eyebrows went up when I saw the web site it was posted on…fishing? Supposedly, it came from the AP. I doubt it. I think it’s just the Obots trying to have some fun. Kreep has probably already seen and dismissed it.

    But wouldn’t it be lovely if someone actually DID have that info? Can’t give up hope.


    Kittycat, am checking my work alert network for news about the swine flu. Nothing yet. I think we need to keep in mind that this has the *potential* to cause a pandemic, but it’s not at that point with the few cases that have been confirmed.

  383. jbjd

    I see the resolution saying McCain’s folks serving on US military, not McCain being born on US Base. Is Clever

  384. Criminal charges to be filed against Dr. Margarette Chan, and President Obama, April 27, 2009 ???

    Freedom Fighter Radio

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    Can anyone else help verify this ????????

  385. oldsalt76, I have been saying this since last August, when I first recommended that people who suspect BO is ineligible for office contact their state officials to try to keep him off the general election ballot.

    nawa…having the discretion to do something, is not having the ministerial duty to do something. Requiring candidates to be Constitutionally eligible for the job, is not requiring someone to vet these candidates. However, if state laws require the major political party to produce a candidate who is Constitutionally eligible for the job then, it is a reasonable reading of the laws to construe this to mean, the only way the party can comply with these laws is to vet the candidate prior to submitting the name of the candidate to the state for inclusion on the state’s general election ballot.

    This is the basis on which a voter can allege election fraud to the AG, in those states that require the candidate for POTUS from the major political party, to be eligible for the job. That is, by certifying BO is the D candidate for POTUS, the D party, through either NP or the state party Chair, certified that in accordance with state law, he is also an NBC.

  386. Rocknee, I would bet only a handful of people noticed this so, don’t feel bad. But now that you know this, spread it around. Help others to see through this fecal matter. People tend to extol the intellectual prowess of people like Professor Tribe; or even BO, because he graduated from HLS. But even assuming either of these men is smart does not mean, they are ethical.

  387. jbjd,

    I believe I see where you are coming from. But what you are suggesting is a paradox. States can’t “pass the buck” and say it’s the job of a private organization to qualify a candidate when the statute places the authority onto the state and its SoS. Let’s take a closer look at your citation of GA law.

    Section 21-2-5 states:

    “(c) The Secretary of State shall determine if the candidate is qualified to seek and hold the public office for which such candidate is offering. If the Secretary of State determines that the candidate is not qualified, the Secretary of State shall withhold the name of the candidate from the ballot or strike such candidate´s name from the ballot if the ballots have been printed. If there is insufficient time to strike the candidate´s name or reprint the ballots, a prominent notice shall be placed at each affected polling place advising voters of the disqualification of the candidate and all votes cast for such candidate shall be void and shall not be counted. ”

    Note here the SoS of GA has the complete authority to qualify any candidate. As was seen in quite a few states that qualification process was not thorough. Why? Because Calero wound up on quite a few ballots.

    In the state of GA, We the People do not have the authority to ensure qualifications for POTUS. It is the responsibility of the SoS of Georgia, for example, to ensure candidates are qualified. When that person is challenged, the SoS must provide ample evidence he/she properly vetted the candidates for eligibility.

    I will grant you there is no clear definition as to what the state of GA needs for meeting the eligibility requirements. But, what the state has done is set a precendence for qualifying voters for eligibility. They have also set a precedence on many other age-related requirements that include everything from social security to driving. Statute does not say how the state of Georgia ensures people are of legal voting age, but a driver’s license or birth certificate are considered acceptible forms of identification and proof of age. If the state follows protocol and requires proof of age for voters, it must also follow the same protocol and ensure proof of age for POTUS candidates because voters are voting for POTUS candidates in the same election. Otherwise, age-related qualifications would be inconsistent and therefore a violation of civil rights.

    Not everything has to be spelled out completely when there is precendence set forth in the law.

  388. jbjd —

    On McCain, the facts are that he was NOT born on a military base, and his parents were NOT residing on the Canal Zone as his campaign communicated before the Election. That story is BOGUS!

    Professor Tribe and Solicitor General Olsen both argued the Law, but the Law has not matched the facts in the matter.

    The FACTS are that McCain was born in the Republic of Panama, at a time when his parents actually resided in the Republic of Panama.

    There was a sequential record kept by the Panama Canal Health Department during 1936 preserved in the National Archives, and there is no entry for John Sydney McCain III. At the time (1936), the Panama Canal Health Department was one of the finest public health departments in the world. Their records were state of the art. So this was NO MISTAKE or BUREAUCRATIC SNAFU, as some of McCain’s defenders allege.

    The Panama Canal Health Department did NOT keep a sequential record of birth certificates for children of U.S. Military who were NOT LIVING IN ANY OF THE MILITARY INSTALLATIONS ON THE CANAL ZONE. McCain’s parents were NOT living on the Canal Zone.

    Further, it is also an interesting fact that when an attorney went to Baja California to find his parent’s wedding license, none was found, either. What was found was that the State of Baja California did have marriage licenses for ALL of the other marriages conducted in Baja California during 1932. So, what happened?

    The likely answer is that his parents may not have been legally married in the eyes of the Mexican Government. However, this apparently is a prime reason why the Republicans have been totally silent on Obama’s credentials.

    The real problem for McCain and for the Republican Party is that he accepted taxpayer matching funds, and he is subject to an audit by the FEC. He and the Republicans appear to be subject to political blackmail by the Democrats.

  389. Bob,

    Article II requirements would be considered “self evident”. The bottom line is if we have to go through all this commotion to ensure a candidate is qualified for the position, they’re simply not qualified to begin with.

    Why is it self evident? To answer the question, answer why the eligibility requirements are there to begin with.

    1. Age. If you’re not old enough, you’re not mature enough.
    2. Natural born citizen. If somebody has to ask you if you were born here to Americans, your allegiance is in question and another country can lay claim on you.
    3. Residency. If you haven’t lived here long enough you’ve been influenced by other societies too much.

    It’s really that simple. We need to review primary intent here. If we have to ask “show us proof”, you aren’t qualified.

    POTUS = Pure blooded American. Born to Americans on U.S. soil.


    Fullbright apparently only offers scholarships for graduate students, but given the ambiguity of this story, it would be hard to believe that anything is carved in stone. We only have to look at the issue at hand to know that.

    Bob I posted this for you though its neither of the sources you are looking for.

  391. JeffM, your legal analysis is flawed because you skipped over (b) before relying on (c). Here’s the opening line of (b): “The Secretary of State upon his or her own motion may challenge the qualifications of any candidate at any time prior to the election of such candidate….” There is also this line, immediately following: “Within two weeks after the deadline for qualifying, any elector who is eligible to vote for a candidate may challenge the qualifications of the candidate by filing a written complaint with the Secretary of State giving the reasons why the elector believes the candidate is not qualified to seek and hold the public office for which he or she is offering.” What follows is a description of the adjudicatory hearing process that would follow such an eligibility challenge either from the S of S or, an elector, resulting in a ruling from an Administrative Law Judge, which is then forwarded to the S of S. Then, comes (c). The language you quote is required because, the Administrative Law Judge has no authority to kick people off the ballot; by law, this is the purview of the GA S of S. So, armed with the decision from the ALJ, she now has to make her statutory determination as to whether the candidate is eligible to be on the ballot. She will, of course, base her decision on the decision of the ALJ.

    In other words, if the S of S does not exercise her legal discretion to challenge a candidate from getting onto the ballot then, the other way to effect an inquiry into eligibility is to petition her to initiate such an inquiry. This is what I advised voters to do, last August, before the deadline under GA law to get names onto the ballot, which was some days after the major political parties conducted their national conventions.

    Any more ‘questions’?

  392. Well, then why challenge the CA SOS as to their rationale for disqualifying OTHER candidates based on birthplace?

    Their criterion would have been applied as a result of data gleaned from a BIRTH CERTIFICATE, not a worthless certification of live birth, and in a challenge, this would be evidence to justify their disqualifying said candidate.

    And therein lies precedence for the CA SOS having obtained and reproduced a birth certificate pertaining to eligibility of a candidate.

  393. why not challenge

  394. Just wondering about the incubation period
    of swine flu. After reading the article about the
    anthropologist in Mexico City who met with BHO and the fact the anthro. died the next day (after meeting obama) was Obama himself exposed to the swine flu (assuming the scientist did indeed die from the swine flu as he had “flu-like symptoms similar to swine flu prior to his death).

  395. jbjd,

    My analysis of the statute is this:

    1. The SoS is responsible for determining whether a candidate “is qualified” for the position of POTUS.
    2. The SoS “may challenge” the qualifications of any candidate.

    “May challenge” is irrelevent to the argument “is qualified”. Either the candidates are qualified or they are not. And should the SoS not challenge the qualifications doesn’t negate his/her responsibility of ensuring the candidate is qualified.

    You’re stating the argument that just because the SoS doesn’t have to challenge a candidate does not exempt him/her from ensuring candidates are qualified. That’s what the issue here is.

    I equate this to taxes. I may or may not file my taxes by April 15. But I’m still responsible for the liability of my tax burden nonetheless.

    This is not an elective statute. Burden of qualifying candidates rests solely in the hands of the SoS in this case. And that means the SoS is also responsible for ensuring Article II requirements have been met.

  396. Maddie,

    Incubation period is 24 to 48 hours.

  397. nawa…, again, you proselytize without ‘knowing’ what you are talking about. Where is your evidence that the CA S of S inspected the birth certificate of Roger Calero, the Socialist Workers Party candidate for POTUS in 2008, before determining he was ineligible to be on the CA general election ballot? Indeed, this candidate proclaimed he was born in Nicaragua, in biographical information he provided to the voters!

    Finally, I never challenged the CA S of S for disqualifying any other candidates from the ballot. But Orly Taitz did, along with Gary Kreep, representing Alan Keyes, in a misguided effort to concoct an argument in support of their petition to the CA Courts for an Order of Mandamus that would require the S of S to vvet BO for Constitutional eligibility to be on the ballot, since CA law contains no such ministerial duty.

  398. One more thing to add to my statement.

    If what you were saying is true about the SoS having “selective jurisdiction”, that means the statute is illegal. The SoS can choose which candidate to “qualify”. That violates the rights of that candidate because the other other candidates weren’t “qualified” using the same criteria.

    Picture this. The SoS looks at a picture of John Smith and he appears to be younger than 35. He chooses to qualify this candidate without following the same process to qualify the other candidates. Another candidate who looks older is younger than 35 and never gets “qualified”.

    That right there folks is Unconstitutional. We are all equal under the law and therefore should follow the same process for ensuring eligibility. It doesn’t matter what’s on the books. What matters is whether the justices are man or woman enough to spot missing leg on the three legged cow.

  399. JeffM, by putting double quotes around words, you wrongly attribute to me this statement I never uttered. Viewed generously, this practice is sloppy.

  400. “Just wondering about the incubation period
    of swine flu. After reading the article about the
    anthropologist in Mexico City who met with BHO and the fact the anthro. died the next day (after meeting obama) was Obama himself exposed to the swine flu (assuming the scientist did indeed die from the swine flu as he had “flu-like symptoms similar to swine flu prior to his death).”

    I think that I read it has an incubation period of 24 to 48 hours. Or at least the article that I read said that.

  401. jbjd,

    If I quote you directly I always precede it with a “jbjd said:” or “jbjd wrote:”. And if I quote you in mid-sentence, I will state “you said:”.

    But I appreciate the feedback nonetheless.

  402. <a href=”http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/government/judicial_and_courts/news.php?q=1240676697″Conspiracy to commit mass murder?

    Charges to be filed against Obama and Dr.Chan tomorrow!

  403. kittycat,

    Swine flu is usually a virus that attacks pigs. Normally swine flu does not attack humans. And if it does, it’s not usually fatal.

    This appears to be the H1N1 strain, which is more deadly. It’s not really “swine flu”, more of a derivative. Incubation is around 48 hours.

    There is a simple way to attack H1N1. And that’s to acquire a 14 day supply of anti-virus medication along with a another drug that combats bacteria. One example is Zanamivir (i.e. Relenza) combined with Cefuroxime. The common name for the antibacterial medication is “Ceftin”.

    It’s an older drug but very effective in treating heavy outbreaks of bronchitis and other infections. If anyone contracts this illness, request these medications adamantly.

  404. And people. Please do not panic. This outbreak is not the pandemic some of this administration is suggesting.

    Wash hands. Take frequent showers. Don’t eat at certain restaurants (ones you know have illegals working there). Enjoy life and eat plenty of fresh fruits and vegetables.

    If you do feel signs of illness, stop what you are doing, get plenty of rest and request medications similar to those I mentioned earlier.

  405. truthbetold11

    I can see a fake collaspe on national tv boy what a way to gain sympthany from all the doubters. i can see the headlines “president collapses due to swine flu kill all the pigs” muslims would be happy

  406. JeffM // April 26, 2009 at 5:48 pm

    Jeff, as Kittycat and I have been discussing in previous posts, this does appear to be an H1N1 strain however, there seems to be some human and bird elements, as well. Unusual to have that occur in nature, don’t you think?

    Please don’t forget about Tamiflu (Oseltamivir) as another drug to fight this. Three million doses have been stockpiled and that stockpile is available right now.

    I would caution against anyone using any type of ‘vaccine’ especially if the vaccine is being created to ward off this particular bug. History shows us that that the consequences can be deadly! Stick with the anti-virals mentioed, if it comes to that.

    And you’re right-no need for panic, as I’ve stated in my previous posts. Use the ordinary hygiene precautions you would take during the winter flu season. This bug has the *potential* to become a pandemic, so we need to keep that in mind.

    Playing conspiracy theorist for just a moment, would an intentional release of an engineered bug be a good reason to declare martial law in the U.S. by this administration? I think it would…

  407. The South // April 26, 2009 at 5:44 pm

    Hello South,

    I did read this article and am wondering exactly who this woman is who’s filing suit. Any idea? I hope she has all her beans in order before she goes forward with this.

  408. was drawn to the Citizen Wells website because I found him to be a man of faith who is diligently seeking truth. I check in often because most of the people who post here are kindred spirits and provide a wealth of knowledge and information. In my opinion, this is the best blog on the internet; no graphics, no advertising, no junk, just honest commentary

    Thanks Jonah, but please mention the sharing of other resources, articles, facts from other blogs, websites, etc. which keep most of us updated with the latest………..that’s what I appreciate.

  409. JeffM —

    Did you know that for more than 50 years, from Thomas Jefferson to Franklin Pierce, children of Americans born overseas were by Law “ALIENS?”

    Why? Because they were not reared into this Constitutional Republic. They were required to live in this country up to 14 years, before they could become ‘Naturalized Citizens.’

    They have always been ‘Naturalized Citizens’ since the first day of the Republic, and they continue to be to this day, even though they are born of American Citizens serving abroad (with the exception of the U.S. Consular Service.

  410. I am not panicked at all, but I am still concerned about my daughter. She’ll be 27 in Sept, so we better be taking care of herself and taking precautions. However, and I know this from being younger, sometimes they think that nothing can happen to them. And I want the baby to be okay too.


    Are you a doc? Have you heard this strain is two kinds of swine virus and one is from Euro-Asia? Then a bird one and a human one.

    Just curious. I think that Sue had heard something similar.

  411. sorry, typo, meaning to say:

    …so she’d better be taking care of herself…

  412. citizenwells

    Thanks for the kind words.

  413. Panic and hysteria are a necessary ingredient for the Obama thugs to use to foment their destruction of America. Be wise and skeptical as to what the MSM is reporting to you. We are all wise,critical thinkers here. Remember that and get out the *Flour Sifter* when it comes to digesting FACTUAL information. It is not what your hear or what you see on MSM,It’s the timing. Misinformation and chaos is their weapon against us.

  414. Suek,

    I’m not sure who she is? I’ve seen a few other articles on this “Jane Burgermeister”, and it looks like she’s some kind of Scientific Journalist or something of the sorts.

    Anyone else have any info on her?

  415. The South // April 26, 2009 at 7:07 pm


    I’m not sure who she is? I’ve seen a few other articles on this “Jane Burgermeister”, and it looks like she’s some kind of Scientific Journalist or something of the sorts.

    Anyone else have any info on her?


    The South, just found her. She’s a ‘correspondent’ for an outfit called RenewableAccessEnergy.com. she seems to be a ‘green’ type person.


    As a ‘correspondent’ she’s really taking on something huge with this lawsuit, eh?

  416. Kathy // April 26, 2009 at 7:00 pm

    Correct, Kathy..that’s why I’m turning to ‘inside sources’ on Monday. I no longer believe what ‘the news’ is feeding.

    Above all, don’t panic…that’s exactly what they want!

  417. http://rightsoup.com/mexican-swine-flu-a-possible-pandemic-biowar-event/

    Unfortunately I’m not a virologist, nor a microbiologist to comment on the importance of this.

  418. SueK,

    Yeah, i’d say she’s jumping into something pretty big with this.

    When you read that entire email that she sent to the fourwinds10 site, she sounds very educated on the subject.

    Conspiracy to commit mass muder

    It sure makes you go Hmmmmmmmm, that all of a sudden we have this pandemic outbreak of a disease with strands of flu virus from several different continents.

    The Illuminati ? The NWO? The Georgian Stones, and the power elites desire to control the population.

    Hmmmmmmmmmmm ?

  419. jbjd: I was not “proselytizing”, I was making a suggestion, granted I am not a lawyer but if the CA SOS has disqualified a candidate based on some criterion or another, there should be reasons…you say it was stated by the candidate himself that he was not qualified by broadcasting he was born in Nicaragua and that assumes the SOS did not see Calero’s BC (we don’t really know that). However, the age disqualifications also have rested on a BC, and the point of the suggestion was to get precedent for the SOS having used a BC for disqualification.



  421. kittycat… I am a nurse.. Please tell your daughter to stay out of crowds and wear a mask if she must go out. To stay away from people with flu symptoms… To wash her hands frequently. To keep a can of Lysol disinfectant and Purel in her car and in her house.. To wash all fresh fruit and veggies well, and to avoid buying any that comes from Mexico… I hope this helps some.

  422. Bob Strauss-
    It was a really pleasant thought wasn’t it! I read the same UK posting, and for a brief moment I thought that the BRITS were starting to doubt. This is what I have been praying for. I like to think that I know how BRITS think. After all I am ONE of them. I will keep on praying,if our lord sees fit he might do sometthing that will put SCUMBAMA squarely in front of the law.

  423. JJ // April 26, 2009 at 6:48 pm

    Thanks Jonah, but please mention the sharing of other resources, articles, facts from other blogs, websites, etc. which keep most of us updated with the latest………..that’s what I appreciate.

    YES, I forgot to mention that the resources posted on this website is why I come here often. The fabulous crew here gives us all a heads up to events pertaining to the usurper.

    Here’s another one that’s happening very close to my own neighborhood!

    Obama event on 100th day to be in Arnold, Mo.

    ARNOLD, Mo. | The White House says President Barack Obama’s town hall meeting on his 100th day in office will be in Arnold on Wednesday.

    The event is scheduled for 10:20 a.m. at Fox Senior High School in the suburban St. Louis city. The White House says the event is open to the public, but a ticket is needed. Doors open at 8 a.m.

    The White House has said Obama will discuss his first 100 days in office and take questions about the administration’s agenda.

    The 100th day in office is often used to measure the performance of a president in his first term.

    The White House said Missouri was chosen for the event because families and workers here have felt the impact of the economic crisis as much as anyone.

  424. I am wondering if a 4-yr-old could have
    the swine flu and have the doctor call it a
    virus and test him for strep (neg. on the strep
    test). Now could this “virus” really be “swine flu”,and it went undiagnosed? Symptoms: sore
    throat, not much appetite, 1 throw-up, and some
    loose stools. Seems to be doing better after
    just a couple of days. Is this “swine flu?”
    Adults are now getting it.
    I am scared. I don’t want any “forced vaccinations” dreamed up by obama’s
    thug groups.

  425. Amy,
    What is Purel? Thanks.

  426. Jeff,
    My guess is that staying out of “Mexican restaurants” would make sense now. What
    about businesses where there are a lot of
    Mexican clerks, etc.?
    Remember that some of the grocery store meat is now labeled “product of Canada or USA or
    Mexico” —- this one freaked me out when I
    first saw it!
    Although I don’t live in “town,” our capital
    (Columbus) is well-represented by Hispanics
    and Somalis (everytime I see a Somali I now
    think of “pirates”–even the women who don’t
    look anything like the pirates….)
    Has the world gone “crazy” or am I just living
    in NUTLAND?

  427. The South // April 26, 2009 at 7:45 pm

    Yup, South…I’m wondering why a correspondent would take on something like this. Granted, she’s ‘green’ but this is huge and I hope she knows what she’s doing.

    We just don’t know at this point where this bug came from. Conspiracy theories will abound and it’s still early in the game.

    With the FDA cutting back on inspections, have you noticed the ton of foodborne illnesses in the last few years…Salmonella, Listeria, etc? Those, however are bacterial. This one is a virus-a whole ‘nother animal completely.

    For once, I’m eager to get to work on Monday and start making phone calls!


    Amy, you’re spot on with your nurse-ly advice. I think that if we treat this like winter flu season and don’t let our guard down as far as personal hygiene is concerned, we’ll do OK.

    Still, this is a scary proposition and we need to be aware of what’s happening without becoming paranoid.

  428. Thanks, Amy, and everyone, really.

    I think Purel is the stuff that you can buy to wipe your hands when you don’t have soap and water, right? I could be wrong.

  429. Tulsa Today, first 100 days, second half has lots of coverage of unresolved eligibility of USURPERman


  430. Maddie // April 26, 2009 at 10:28 pm

    Hi Maddie,

    Only a doctor and lab tests will tell if this is swine flu. I will tell you this, though, if it helps. I was flattened by something 3 weeks ago and was questioning why this stuff was hitting in March/April rather than February.

    If in doubt, take the 4 year old back to the doc. Lots of diseases have similar symptoms, so you can’t be sure what it is from a set of symptoms.

    Purell is the alcohol gel that’s become very popular. It works. The brand name can be a little pricey, so if buying a generic, make sure that the alcohol content is 62% or more. That’s the percentage that works. No water/wiping needed.

  431. Maddie,

    Stay away from any organization or business where illegals may be present because they tend to be less hygenic and are generally in contact with migrant workers from Mexico.

    It’s good practice not to support these organizations and businesses anyway. They undermine our liberties and our sovereignty.


    I am not a doctor but work with quite a few practices and know quite a few medical doctors. I have been following pandemics at length for quite some time, especially the H5N1 bird flu strain. These “pandemics” have been cropping up for quite some time, but have remained relatively controlled and quiet.

    However, this is the main reason why the U.S. should never open its borders to neighboring 3rd World countries like Mexico like we have. They do not have sufficient clean water supplies, are less hygenic, and are unable to adequately control outbreaks of viral and bacterial episodes efficiently. We have been seeing a rash of salmonella and other nasty bugs from fruits, vegetables, and other foods from Mexico lately.

    The bottom line is: stay away from Mexican foods, supplies, and illegals.

  432. Thanks Sue and Jeff–great advice. I’ll be following it. I’ll have to change some of my
    “routine”– Chipolte’s for one and staying away from all businesses that have ???illegals—this
    probably includes “McDonalds”—lots of Mexicans work there.

  433. Maddie,

    Go and see which establishments in your area have had health violations as of late. This will help you stay clear of illegals:


    Most cities have a listing of violations online. Excessive violations means stay clear. Plus, keep your eyes out for pure Spanish being spoken in the kitchen of the establishment. That’s a dead ringer for potential illegal activity.

  434. Unless the Mexicans in America have had contact with the Mexicans in Mexico, how would they have had contact with the flu virus?

  435. Kim,

    It’s because Mexicans live and work with other Mexicans. They are in contact with Mexicans moreso than anyone else.

    Does it really matter? Illegals shouldn’t be here anyway. If disease doesn’t keep you away from establishments hiring illegals, your conscience should.

    Most of the illegals are concentrated along these southern states. This includes:

    1. California
    2. New Mexico
    3. Texas
    4. Florida
    5. Arizona

    They are closest to the border of Mexico. And they are in contact with more Mexicans who frequently travel to and from Mexico.

  436. Maddie // April 26, 2009 at 11:15 pm

    Hi Maddie,

    Jeff is right-stick with only the establishments you trust. I don’t know what state you’re in, but if you go to your state’s website, there should be a link to food inspections, enforcement, or something like that. You can also check with your city or town to see which establishments have been cited for violations.

    On the hygiene front, wash your hands, then wash them some more! Use the Purell when there’s no water available and if anyone is obviously sick, go the other way. It’s tough to tell in April because allergy season is upon us, but please use care no matter where you go. Just be aware.

    We are a mobile society, and that includes border-jumpers, too. Not to blame the Mexicans for this, but it appears that’s where this virus originated (or was transported). There will be more reported cases in various states as this goes along. We can put in a bunch of safeguards, but as I tell my classes, *you* are ultimately responsible for your own health.

    Now, go get some Purell tomorrow :).

  437. LM @ 8:43,

    Isn’t that link to Defend our freedoms the bougus one? I thought Orly said her web master stold her passwords, etc… and also creatde other sites using Defend Our Freedoms.com, .org. net, etc…

    Dr. Orly has a different blog site now.

    Just wondering?

  438. Not all Mexicans in this country are illegal, JeffM. There are millions here legally.

  439. cw, it would be a shame if your blog deteriorated into a sounding board for xenophobic racists.

    Diseases do not discriminate; anyone is susceptible to having problems staving off ever-mutating viruses. People from Mexico are no more personally responsible for the strain of swine flu that looks to have originated in that country (but a less virulent form of which has also shown up in Canada) than are conservative white Republicans responsible for Legionnaire’s disease. named for the men stricken en masse at a meeting of the American Legion in Philadelphia, PA, in 1976.

    For all we know, U.S. citizens from California, New Mexico, Texas, Florida, and Arizona, traveling to Mexico for business or pleasure, exported this disease to them.

  440. Kim,

    I understand what you are saying. What I’m saying is if you want to avoid getting a lethal flu virus from Mexico, one that will put you in a pine box, avoid coming into contact with things traveling to and from Mexico.

    Illegal Mexicans intermingle with traveling illegal Mexicans who tend to travel over the border frequently, legally or not. This is fact.

    Fruits and vegetables coming from Mexico can be contaminated and have been proven to be a breeding ground for disease in the recent past. This is also fact.

    Fortunately we have control over transport of goods. Unfortunately we do not control illegal passage over the border. This is the largest threat to our health because we simply cannot prevent the disease from spreading as we do not control travel, something we can control when people travel legally.

    Call it what you will. We’re not talking about sending legal Mexicans back home or blaming them for anything. What I am saying is to avoid contact and stay away from establishments who have been known to hire illegal immigrants who tend to travel over the border illegally in general. That is all. Nothing more, nothing less.

  441. Lame Cherry says:

    From the way this bunch has been playing games when Obama was directly exposed, it is evident this little virus will not affect black people.

    This is a brown skinned and it seems a white skinned virus. It kills Mexicans and it just makes white people sick for Obama profits while it waits to mutate into the real killer virus.

    One stops the infection at the source and that is Mexico. One does not keep allowing more hosts into America to start an epidemic UNLESS ONE IS STAGING THAT EPIDEMIC.

    Just like SAARS was aimed at orientals. This virus has started out aimed at brown skinned Mexicans. It is past time someone past this blog demands that Congress mandate the CDC to arrest this situation from the Obama plague spreaders, because that is exactly what Barack Obama and Janet Napolitano are doing in this absurd policy as they are spreading this disease by not containing it.

    This is but a continuing list of the crimes of Barack Obama.


  442. Lame Cherry also asks in the same article:

    What happens when Americans start shooing Mexicans with guns out of their communities, when Obama imported them to spread this disease? Obama is responsible for all of those people’s suffering in a criminal way.

  443. Tamiflu,… a worthless drug that in no way shape or form treats the avian flu, but only decreases the amount of days one is sick and can actually contribute to the virus having more lethal mutations.


  444. You posters on this sight are the greatest! I held my talk radio program with Pastor Manning as the guest (he was terrific) but becuase of your good research and staying on top of everything I was able to make some points about Obama’s records being released from Occidental College that revealed he attended on a Fullbright scholarship and an Indonesian citizen! I learned that choice tid bit from this site. Pastor Manning was very interested in this and asked if I would sent him the link. I did send it to him.

    Thank you for posting it–you know who you are! I hope you will listen to the program you can archive it at http://www.blogtalkradio.com/usapatriots-shout

  445. Pouring Oil on Troubled Waters

    Pouring Oil on Troubled Waters

    The calming effect of oil was known to the ancient Greeks. In 1762, Benjamin Franklin repeated an experiment first performed by Pliny, which he reported in A Letter from Benjamin Franklin to William Brownrigg, 1773:

    “I then went to the windward side where they (the waves) began to form; and there the oil, though not more than a teaspoonful, produced an instant calm over a space several yards square which spread amazingly and extended itself gradually till it reached the lee side, making all that quarter of the pond, perhaps half an acre, as smooth as a looking glass.”

    A strong wind that goes by many names is troubling the waters in America. I don’t have enough metaphorical oil to calm the metaphorical troubled waters of all America. However, maybe I have enough oil to calm the trouble stirred up by issues surrounding the Grand Jury effort to indict AKA Obama.

    Something as dramatic as citizens themselves deciding to take action by forming Grand Juries to indict a President is certain to stir up emotions on both sides of the issue. My goal in this essay is to replace impulsive emotions with facts and reason.

    Let me start with the dangers that emotions can present as a component to solving problems.

    Every thought we think changes the activity of specific chemicals in the brain called neuropeptides. What we are thinking about determines what our emotions are.

    Interestingly, certain kinds of thinking produce more emotional chemicals than other types of thinking. Analytical, organizational, logistical, and mathematical thinking produces very few emotions. That is why accountants, technical professionals, and mathematicians seem to be so emotionally flat.

    Conversely, creative, poetic, descriptive, and interpersonal thinking produces many emotions. People like actors, writers, musicians, and artists frequently have enough emotions for a family of four all by themselves.

    Emotions cloud our thinking, cause us to be impulsive, and alienate others. Problem solving is better served by reason than by feelings.

    So let’s begin with all of those irrational fear mongers who are trying to discourage people from participating in a Grand Jury. From them, we are hearing things like: “People can’t go around just starting their own ‘pretend’ Grand Juries. That has got to be against the law. You’ll get arrested. You will go to jail for falsifying a court document and impersonating a court official. You have no right to do such a thing!”

    Compare such scare tactics aimed at frightening citizens to this clearly stated, rational wording in the Handbook of Texas:

    “The grand jury’s investigation of any matter may be initiated by the court, the district attorney, its own members, or any credible person. The grand jury may summon witnesses by subpoena and examine them under oath. On completion of an investigation the grand jury determines by vote whether or not an indictment should be presented to the court; nine votes are necessary for a decision to indict, and nine members also constitute a quorum.”

    I have also heard anti-grand Jury people making emotionally driven arguments like: “Ordinary people can’t just go around making decisions in Grand Juries without being supervised by a lawyer. The whole justice system will fall apart if lawyers aren’t supervising Grand Juries. Who knows what horrible injustices they will commit without a lawyer to guide them?”

    In many states governmental lawyers are not only NOT welcome in Grand Jury sessions, they are actually banned by law from any participation in Grand Jury sessions. Take Virginia, for example. The mere presence of a lawyer representing the government will invalidate any decision of a Grand Jury. Without the dramatic rhetoric, see how the State of Virginia explains the Grand Jury’s relationship to any such attorneys.

    “To keep the Grand Jury free from any pressure from the State, Virginia makes it illegal for any attorney representing the State to appear before the Grand Jury, except as a witness.
    If, however, members of the Grand Jury have questions about their duties, they may ask the Commonwealth’s Attorney for advice.

    Except for these two cases, if a Commonwealth’s Attorney appears in the Grand Jury Room while the Grand Jury is there, any indictment returned “A True Bill” by the Grand Jury is invalid (no good). Therefore, while a Grand Jury may request the appearance of the Commonwealth’s Attorney to testify as a witness or to explain some principle of law about the discharge of their duties, they cannot seek his advice as to whether they should return an indictment as “A True Bill.” If a Grand Jury finds that it is in need of advice as to its duties but doesn’t know if it can invite the Commonwealth’s Attorney into the Grand Jury Room to explain, it should notify the judge that it desires further instructions, and it will receive such instructions in open court. ”

    So, far from citizens not having the authority to form Grand Juries, and far from citizens not being able to function in a grand jury without the advice of an attorney, we discover that the Grand Jury option is designed to be initiated by citizens and to function free from the influence of governmental attorneys.

    Although the laws may vary from state to state, Grand Juries are viewed the way United States Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia sees them,

    “In fact, the whole theory of its function is that it belongs to no branch of the institutional Government, serving as a kind of buffer or referee between the Government and the people.”

    Also, United States Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia ruled in the case of United States vs. Williams, 504 U.S. 36 at 48 (1992):

    “Rooted in long centuries of Anglo-American history, Hannah v. Larche, 363 US 420, 490 (1960) with J. Frankfurter concurring in result, the Grand Jury is mentioned in the Bill of Rights, but not in the body of the Constitution. It has not been textually assigned, therefore, to any of the three branches described in the first three Articles. It is a constitutional fixture in its own right.”

    Clearly stated: The Grand Jury is a separate and equal Constitutional power.
    The Grand Jury is not a tool for government to use against its citizens.

    So my first teaspoon of rational oil is to still the waters roiled by those who intentionally promulgate unfounded rumors. They are so threatened by the constitutional power of the Grand Jury that they irresponsibly spread their reckless gossip in an attempt to frighten citizens away from exercising their legitimate constitutional rights.

    My second teaspoon of rational oil is to be used to still all the angry anti-AKA Obama citizens who use more rhetoric than reason to express themselves.

    There are not going to be any lynch parties for politicians. As much as we might mention ‘torches and pitchforks,’ the only revolution I support and the only revolutions supported by the leadership of the Grand Jury movement is a revolution as defined by the U. S. Constitution. Our forefathers had the wisdom to provide a way for citizens to redress their grievances in a peaceful way.

    If you personally have any other intentions, please remove yourself from my email list and do not post on this blog. If you express irresponsible rhetoric that even hints of any action that is not covered by your constitutional rights, please disassociate yourself from the Grand Jury movement. Such attitudes are more of a liability than an asset to the cause.

    We welcome and appreciate patriots who are committed to the principles of Constitutional Government.

    A little reminder from some old friends of mine:

    You say you got a real solution
    Well, you know
    We’d all love to see the plan
    You ask me for a contribution
    Well, you know
    We’re doing what we can
    But when you want money
    for people with minds that hate
    All I can tell is brother you have to wait

  446. decentAmerican

    Some of you have laughed or brushed aside when I brought up Nostradamus and his predictions, but what does Armageddon and the coming of the Antichrist supposed to look like? the Usurper is treated like a messiah, but evil to the core. There will be storms of fire (southwest fires, global warming), plagues (swine flu anyone?), and war (needless to say), and discord ( the econony in shambles).

    I’m not a sign holder on a street corner. I am just seeing the signs predicted in Revelations. Don’t you see?

  447. Aristotle the Hun,

    Yet another excellent article regarding Grand Juries! I also enjoyed your recommendation from your advisor to Grand Juries and it really deserves repeating here.

    I did have one question. Do you think Illinois has the greatest opportunity for success amongst all Grand Juries? After all, this is the root of corruption for our most prominant kingpin.

  448. Aristotle-
    You posess an excellent command of grammer. I wish that I was equally proficient. You make a valid point, but unfortunately the time is past when any form of “eloquent reasoning” will fix the problem at hand. Nor will “finely”crafted lawsuits work; a devoted SCOTUS is necessary for that to be a consideration. So with all routes of relief blocked the ONLY route remaining is Our Court of Last Resort. ( CIVIL GRAND JURY). I along with a LOT of Americans support this sort of action, if for no other reason than to demonstrate that it is still a government OF THE PEOPLE,BY THE PEOPLE,and FOR THE PEOPLE.

  449. decentAmerican,

    Treat the proverbs as warnings of impending doom. They do not necessarily mean the end is near. History repeats itself. This is not the first time an evil entity has pulled the “doom card” onto its people. Looking back throughout history, epidemics have been commonplace, about once every 7 years or so. This conveniently coincides with the average cycle for turmoil across the globe.

    Take heed, but know that evil can and will be conquered. We will survive this mess. Have faith and know you do not walk alone on the road to Damascus.

  450. Therese Daniels-
    I have been closely following your comments. I find that I agree with about 99% of your comments. The rest goes to JEFFM. I believe that both of you reflect nearly all of the things that I have come to believe. Yet there is a component that I am at somewhat of a loss to determine accurately which aludes to Soetoro’s childish, narcississtic behavior. Also he seems to demonstrate the demeanor of someone who doesn’t understand what he is doing. Perhaps better said by referring him as mentally immature.
    I can only hope that somewhere in his childish behavior lies a propensity to forget the tying of his shoestrings, and soon he will trip over the untied shoestring, and fall squarely into a flaming caldron of his own making. I have a gut feeling that it WILL be one of his own nitwit ventures that will bring his alleged presidency to a sudden end.

  451. With regard to Napolitano, I guess I can only hope that she follows the same route as the infamous “NELLIE who got a female body part caught in the washmachine wringer. Her verbal rhetoric seems to say that it all might happen SOONER,than later.

  452. As for MMMMMSSSSS. ” IMPORTANT “I can only hope that her power intoxication will eventually bring her imbecilic behavior,and barefaced lies to an end,as well as her job as speaker.

  453. As for Harry Reid; he has been quieter than a church mouse lately. Do you suppose that he has noticed the handwriting on the wall? If that is the case then he too might soon be called out by his constituents, and while kicking ,screaming, and WHINING, will be handed his walking papers. The rest of the “gang of 14” are slowly but ever so surely showing themselves for the criminals that they truly are. I am praying that 2010 will see thes morons voted out of office.

  454. Therese,

    Have you confirmed this with AP? We do not want to be seen as being as irresponsible as the MSM in spreading false internet rumors.

    Wouldn’t this have already been posted front and center on all anti-Ovomit websites?

    I found a site at Occidental recently created to explain Ovomits privacy rights as a former student in regards to his records.

  455. I have to agree with jbjd on this one. Please let’s treat disease as a process that does not have national proclivities. Infectious diseases take hold as a combined function of virulence of the bug and resistance of the host. Resistance of the host is not defined by the colour of one’s skin. To think otherwise is ludicrous.

    Resistance with infectious diseases is a product of many factors. This includes presence of antibodies, health of the person’s immunity, genetic factors (that are not directly linked with racial background), the body organ largely affected and other factors.

  456. citizenwells

    From AOL:

    “WASHINGTON (April 27) — Governments are racing to find and contain pockets of swine flu around the globe, seeking to stem both the threat of a pandemic and public panic.
    “We’re preparing in an environment where we really don’t know ultimately what the size or seriousness of this outbreak is going to be,” U.S. Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano said Sunday.”

    How will they stem panic? That will be the story

  457. http://www.minutemanpac.com/simcox.php
    Looks like John MCcain has competition for Senate seat!Watch the video!

  458. Interesting article by the NY Times :

    How Geithner forged ties to finance club
    Treasury secretary’s relationships with banking giants raises questions


    Even the liberal newspapers are beginning to question the corrupt ties in the bho administration.

    Wondering where this article will lead?
    Check out the comments section (newsvine) at the end of this article.

  459. CW,

    Can you clear up the matter of Dr. Orly’s web sites? I thought all the current web sites with “Defendourfreedoms. ???
    were created by someone else that she was having problems with – Lisa Ostella ?? Who is now behind the Defendourfreedoms. web sites?

    Therese Daniels,
    I believe up earlier in this post someone pointed out that the article about The Occidental College records being released was an April Fools joke. The article about that was posted on April 1st and others believe that it was nothing more than an April Fools joke.

    Anyone … ????

  460. Old Salt —

    In college in Indiana, I used to watch Woody Hayes across the border at Ohio State pound the football “3 yards and a cloud of dust.” It was a winning strategy.

    Too often I’ve watched Obama’s opponents gravitate toward the West Coast offense of the flashy “pass play,” only to have the ball knocked away time and time again.

    So, I propose that we use an “end around!” How? Attack McCain and his Campaign for their use of taxpayer matching funds, when he obviously was not qualified.

    Why? Because, in defending themselves, the Republicans will be forced to break off their conspiracy of silence with the Democrats over Obama’s “eligibility.”

    What is the press going to do? Defend Obama, when the target is McCain? They will be so confused, they won’t know how to defend against this maneuver!

    It’s not racist, it’s not bigoted, it’s in the line with the mood of the taxpayers, and it will give ammunition to McCain’ challenger, and it will expose the machinations of the RINOs who put McCain forward.

    So, what’s to lose?

  461. http://www.thebiblicalworldview.org/message-board/
    Very interesting!Go to the home page of this site and look at what he also says!

  462. decentAmerican

    Just curious, but does anyone know why the unapatriotic Napolitano is leading this swine flu issue? Shoudln’t it be the HHS Secretary? I know she is still undergoing confirmation, but what does Homeland Security have to do with an outbreak….. unless there is a security breach they are not telling us about?

    Napolitano can barely do her current job, what with her being busy with insulting Veterans and other Americans.

  463. Has everyone read, Dr. Taitz’s, latest work, headed to Justice Roberts? The list of plaintiffs is very impressive. This should expose the fraud! Injunction to stop Barry from signing, papers, bills, anything.

  464. citizenwells // April 27, 2009 at 8:03 am

    From AOL:

    “WASHINGTON (April 27) — Governments are racing to find and contain pockets of swine flu around the globe, seeking to stem both the threat of a pandemic and public panic.
    “We’re preparing in an environment where we really don’t know ultimately what the size or seriousness of this outbreak is going to be,” U.S. Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano said Sunday.”

    How will they stem panic? That will be the story


    Good Morning CW,

    By using the words ‘panic’ and ‘pandemic’ they are *creating* the panic.

    A few pockets of illness scattered around the globe are usually no big deal and can be contained locally however, it’s the verbiage in these articles from the MSM that are causing folks to adopt the ‘OMG, what do we do?’ attitude.

    Is this all part of the master plan?

  465. redneck sympathizer

    ALIPAC says to demand border closure NOW!

  466. redneck sympathizer

    Swine flu outbreak linked to Smithfield factory farms?
    0 comments Monday, April 27, 2009 Posted by Journal-Post

    The outbreak of a new flu strain—a nasty mash-up of swine, avian, and human viruses—has infected 1000 people in Mexico and the U.S., killing 68. The World Health Organization warned Saturday that the outbreak could reach global pandemic levels.

    Is Smithfield Foods, the world’s largest pork packer and hog producer, linked to the outbreak? Smithfield operates massive hog-raising operations Perote, Mexico, in the state of Vera Cruz, where the outbreak originated. The operations, grouped under a Smithfield subsidiary called Granjas Carrol, raise 950,000 hogs per year, according to the company Web sit.

    On Friday, the U.S. disease-tracking blog Biosurveillance published a timeline of the outbreak containing this nugget, dated April 6 (major tip of the hat to Paula Hay, who alerted me to the Smithfield link on the Comfood listserv and has written about it on her blog, Peak Oil Entrepreneur):

    Residents [of Perote] believed the outbreak had been caused by contamination from pig breeding farms located in the area. They believed that the farms, operated by Granjas Carroll, polluted the atmosphere and local water bodies, which in turn led to the disease outbreak. According to residents, the company denied responsibility for the outbreak and attributed the cases to “flu.” However, a municipal health official stated that preliminary investigations indicated that the disease vector was a type of fly that reproduces in pig waste and that the outbreak was linked to the pig farms. It was unclear whether health officials had identified a suspected pathogen responsible for this outbreak.

    From what I can tell, the possible link to Smithfield has not been reported in the U.S. press. Searches of Google News and the websites of the New York Times, Washington Post, and Wall Street Journal all came up empty. The link is being made in the Mexican media, however. “Granjas Carroll, causa de epidemia en La Gloria,” declared a headline in the Vera Cruz-based paper La Marcha. No need to translate that, except to point out that La Gloria is the village where the outbreak seems to have started. Judging from the article, Mexican authorities treat hog CAFOs with just as much if not more indulgence than their peers north of the border, to the detriment of surrounding communities and the general public health. Get this:

    De acuerdo con uno de los habitantes de la comunidad, Eli Ferrer Cortés, los desechos fecales y orgánicos que produce Granjas Carroll no son tratados adecuadamente, lo que genera contaminación del agua y del viento en la region.

    My rough translation: According to one community resident, the organic and fecal waste produced by Granjas Carrol isn’t adequately treated, creating water and air pollution in the region. I witnessed—and smelled—the same thing in Hardin County, Iowa, a couple of years ago, another area marked by intensive industrial hog production. The article goes on to say that area residents have long complained of “fetid odors” in the air and water, and swarms of flies hovering around waste lagoons. Like their counterparts who live in CAFO-heavy U.S. areas, they also complain of respiratory ailments. Now, with 30 percent of the area’s residents now infected with the virulent flu bug, people are demanding that state and federal authorities inspect hog operations there. So far, reports La Marcha, the response has been: nada.

    The Mexico City daily La Jornada has also made the link. According to the newspaper, the Mexican health agency IMSS has acknowledged that the orginal carrier for the flu could be the “clouds of flies” that multiply in the Smithfield subsidiary’s manure lagoons.

    I’ll be in touch with contacts in Mexico as this story develops —and I’ll be curious to see whether the U.S. media explores the link with Smithfield’s Mexico operation.

    Source: Grist.org



  467. redneck sympathizer // April 27, 2009 at 11:26 am


    Hello Redneck Sympathizer and All,

    I’ve not heard about the Smithfield operation but will check it out.

    Have been in touch with ‘those in the know’ in my area, and so far, this is what I’ve got:

    This flu is a combo of swine flu from Asia, swine flu from Europe, bird flu from North America, and human flu. Virologists are suggesting that it *may* be a human-engineered pathogen due to the Asian/European strains and the fact that this mix is an unlikely occurrence in nature.

    To their knowledge (and this is important), NO infected pigs have been located. That’s not to say, however, that they don’t exist.

    Right now, it’s looking like an engineered bug.

    An important note: Baxter International has asked for a sample of this swine flu (called A-H1N1) to try to develop a vaccine. You may recall that it was Baxter whose seasonal flu vaccine was contaminated with H5N1, bird flu, in Europe. If it hadn’t been discovered in time, this vaccine would’ve triggered a bird flu pandemic which would’ve taken out a ton of people.

    As I and other posters have said previously, folks should use the antiviral drugs (Relenza and Tamiflu) to shorten the duration of this virus but due to Baxter’s mishandling of the seasonal flu vaccine, *do not* get a swine flu vaccine injection if/when it is produced.

    More as I get it….

  468. Oldsalt 76

    I, too, think Obama and his snake nest will step over the line and finally someone bigger and more powerful than evil George Soros will find a judge who will finally write the order–“Obama produce the documents that prove you are eligible to be our President.”

    I think the issue of wanting to prosecute the Bush administration for torture just might be the line they have crossed. It is motivated and being pushed by Soros–a former Nazi employee–now billionaire who claims one of the most “exhiliarating jobs he ever had was entering the vacated Jewish homes and appraising their property the Nazis were stealing!

    To the others who raised questions about the Occidental school records being an April Fool’s joke–It was discussed last night on the talk program. One of the best researchers on my team is drawing the conclusion this is not an April Fool’s joke and is very real. It is claimed there is a real panic inside Washington over this. Let’s just wait and see what comes forward. I know we are going to hear the fat lady sing.

    Regarding Obama’s birth cerificate forgery that will be coming forward. The sad truth about it is– the forged certificate will create a partially convincing cloud over it to persuade enough gullible people who already believe Obama does no wrong that the birth certificate is real. This will start a brand new series of debates and give the corrupt judges, Senators, and Congressman exactly the document they need to justify Obama does qualify–forgery or not. It will be very similar to putting a cloud over the title of real estate property. (That is how property is stolen via adverse possession). The reason not one Congressman, or judge will stand up and claim the truth about Obama–that he does not qualify under the Constitution to be President– is that they, too are guilty in failing to honor their oath. If –which sooner or later we will prove Obama to be a usurper, these guilty politicians know very well they too are guilty and can be indicted and proscecuted for their part in this disgraceful cover up. “You knew you were guilty the first time you sentenced an innocent man.”, said the American judge to the Nazi judge. They know they were guilty the first and every time they avoided or denied Obama’s failure to qualify as president. They are nothing better than political whores and sluts.

  469. Obama and woman director of WHO being sued by an Austrian European coorespondent for an environmental co. for conspiring to commit mass murder…You MUST read this and pass it on . It is rather lengthy as it starts out with this womans email stating what she is planning to do, then it goes on to the letter she is sending to the director and includes Obama too.. The bottom half is NOT her letter.. She accuses WHO and Obama of planned genocide carrying out the Illuminati plans by inducing panic, etc. about the swine flu and planning to force (tainted) vaccine for genocide.. She accuses WHO of allowing Baxter International of Ill. to make the vaccine knowing they are being investigated in Austria ( I think).. This is scary.

  470. Therese Daniels,

    As you and everyone knows, but worth repeating a former “Jewish” Nazi employee. Much like Obama who referred to ” a typical white person”. You know when you eat your own, there’s not much hope.

  471. An s after court..sorry

  472. sorry.. s after new to make it news (not after court)

  473. http://w w w.fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/government/judicial_and_courts/news.php?q=1240676697

  474. The “powers that be” CANNOT afford any demonstrations, marches etc, that allow the light of “truth” to be shown on their evil. Therefore, “black flag” events alluded to by V. P. Biden, such as this “swine” flu, will be perpetrated on the nation(s) and the resulting implementation of FEMA/HLS controlled responses (complete with MANDATORY antidotes that contain who knows what) that prohibit the free movement of the population, including martial law, will be implemented in an attempt to head off public dissent.

    So much for demonstrations, peaceful or otherwise. “Never let a good crisis go to waste” is their mantra; they have only just begun the “crisises” that they intend to “finish” the job of dismantling America with. Please see “Lame Cherry: Apr 25, 2009” article titled, “Possum Obama”, where the partially hidden motto on the presidential seal (behind the blasphemous “sacred geometry” backed “crucified B.O.”) is translated as “The god of the star we see performing the fragmentation of the nation”. It’s his every intention to disMEMBER this nation before we can stop him.

    Federal laws already exist to issue mandatory innoculations and quarantine (in events like these), to be implemented by FEMA, with the help of HLS. Divide and conquer. If we refuse to be innoculated, we will be at the very least, arrested and forcibly injected (with, again, who knows what) while being incarcerated, again, who knows where. They don’t dare risk being reprimanded by their handlers with the phrase, “Waste a crisis, want a crisis”. As if they don’t have many more to pick from. As they are demonstrating, their evil knows “no bounds”.

  475. We have all drawn the same conclusions concerning Barry as a foreign student. He wont show the records and is spending an enormous amount fighting to keep them hidden. That is proof enough to most thinking folk. However, the story was attributed to AP…..so it just seems to me that this makes it an easy fact to have checked. We certainly do not need to fan the flames of another rumor that could be used to further scoff at our movement.

    I have to think that they have not yet been released or we would have heard about it from all the lawyers involved.

    Maybe a good idea would be to circulate a more credible fake without an April fools date…..send it to the media etc….lol

  476. Though not very willingly, I was watching a documentary on Nazi Germany a few days ago. I was reminded of how innocent victims were told they were going to a better place, when indeed they were going to the gas chambers. This administration unfortunately resonates too powerfully with this image. The AP story is what it is, and it’s anybody’s guess w.r.t to its veracity.

    As I was watching this documentary some individuals credited their survival to their utter determination to tell the world their account of this human atrocity knowing that most of humanity would never believe it.

    I hope we will not have to wait for the history books to find out what is going on today.

  477. sandy,

    Good suggestion. Someone should circulate a nice copy of Soetoro’s real birth certificate. Send it to every newspaper and television station and see what happens. It should work as it worked for Soetoro already. After all we all pretty much know what’s on the real certificate so getting a copy shouldn’t be any problem at all.

    Then the Department of Hawaii has to produce a forgery, or the real thing, or verify the information is inaccurate to refute the information on it. LOL.

  478. http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2009/04/dems_getting_nervous_about_ira.html

    Democrats in house do not understand what Obama is up to. That should signal alarm for his supporters. We’ll see how many will hear and more importantly understand.

  479. Hmmm?! Things are getting interesting. Will this issue finally recieve the attention it deserves so the country can put it behind us one way or the other, or will the MSM continue to divert attention away from it?

  480. Al,

    What issue?

  481. “Some of you have laughed or brushed aside when I brought up Nostradamus and his predictions”

    I don’t laugh, but I don’t put any trust in Nostradamus. I put my trust in the Scriptures and Yahweh. As far as BO meaning the main anti-messiah, no, he’s not. There are many before the head one comes.


    Tell your government no to so-called ‘Fairness Doctrine’


  483. IF this is an engineered bio-attack (and I think most of us are inclined to believe it now), what better way to introduce it into the US than to start it in Mexico right around Spring Break travel season?

  484. Do you remember that Obama had “a bug” through Europe and he was fixated on pawing and double-handshaking key people? Remember Chavez wiped his hand after shaking Obama’s hand? Did he know something?
    Then in Mexico Obama greets a museum director who dies within 48 hours. I wonder if he’s TYPHOID OBAMA spreading the OBAMAVIRUS throughout the world.
    The epidemic kind of follows him UK France Turkey Mexico

  485. Katie // April 27, 2009 at 2:35 pm

    IF this is an engineered bio-attack (and I think most of us are inclined to believe it now), what better way to introduce it into the US than to start it in Mexico right around Spring Break travel season?


    Hi Katie,

    Right you are! That seems to be the opinion around here. How many spring breakers travel to Cozumel, Cancun, and other popular destinations in Mexico during this time, then go home to different parts of the world?

    We also notice that it’s roots are in Mexico….convenient to *not* have it start in the U.S., as doing that would prompt Americans to believe it was an intentional release, don’t you think?

  486. Do you remember that Obama had “a bug” through Europe and he was fixated on pawing and double-handshaking key people? Remember Chavez wiped his hand after shaking Obama’s hand? Did he know something?
    Then in Mexico Obama greets a museum director who dies within 48 hours. I wonder if he’s TYPHOID OBAMA spreading the OBAMAVIRUS throughout the world.
    The epidemic kind of follows him UK France Turkey Mexico
    put an http:// in front of this address: maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&t=p&msa=0&msid=106484775090296685271.0004681a37b713f6b5950&ll=32.639375,-110.390625&spn=15.738151,25.488281&z=5

  487. Jacqlyn Smith


    bob strauss // April 27, 2009 at 10:31 am

    Has everyone read, Dr. Taitz’s, latest work, headed to Justice Roberts? The list of plaintiffs is very impressive. This should expose the fraud! Injunction to stop Barry from signing, papers, bills, anything.

    I think she should be sending all of this to the MSM as well…..even if they don’t discuss it….at least it will be out there just in case someone grows some balls and decides to show the rest of America just what is going on!!!

  488. Jacqlyn can you post (or repost if I missed it) the link? Thanks

  489. Evertone- I wish everybody well, and hope that the swine flu bug bypasses you. I am praying that it will fizzle out……with God’s help.

  490. Has anybody watched MMMMMSSSSS. IMPORTANT do her backpeddeling routine yesterday? Her lie has finally come home to roost. POOR HARRY has been quiet as a churchmouse,and I havn’t noticed him anywhere NEAR her. Wonder why. Could this be another strain of SWINE FLEW, which strikes only sneaking,liars in Congress. I guess that this could be the awaited day when PIGS FLY,or have the SWINE already FLOWN ?

  491. Jacqlyn Smith

    The following post by Larry Sinclair was written last week….I hadn’t been to his site for a while and just happened to check it out today….please inform others of this action to not inform our military on the FRAUD’S previous activities before duping the America!!!!

    Thursday, April 23, 2009

    I received an email from an individual who works at a store on a military base. According to the email, stores that normally carry Globe Magazine on base have failed to carry any issue of the Globe that mentions anything about me in any issue.

    Is the Obama Administration banning the sale of Globe Magazines on military bases when the magazine has a story regarding my allegations against Barack Obama or my upcoming book about Obama?

    i have been following this story from the beginning and believe it to be true. so when is the book coming out. i would like to get a copy.by the way i work on a military base and they have these little stores to get things like food, soda , gas and when the globe came out with your story they would not stock the globe claiming their supplier was being changed but it was really a cover up not allowing our troops to see what is going on with barky, as they may decide not to follow the orders of a fake. then when new issues of the globe came out that did not have your story then they stocked it again. the globe need to know they are being silenced.

  492. Jacqlyn Smith

    nawanawanga // April 27, 2009 at 3:20 pm

    Jacqlyn can you post (or repost if I missed it) the link? Thanks

    Nawanawanga—Here is the website for Dr. Orly…you will find her info there.


  493. http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=CNG.8282347267271b64646e51f83dc4437f.8a1&show_article=1

    This is ambiguous at best ….”not a classic human virus”. “Humans can infect pigs”.

  494. Hey everyone,

    I certainly feel sorry for those people. Now 2,000 hospitalized in Mexico with severe pneumonia. That’s bad!

  495. Further and most importantly “there is no evidence that this virus , currently circulating in humans, has its origin in animals. There is no evidence to support this”

  496. kittycat,

    From what I have read, and you probably have too, is that death arises from the immunological reaction of the host to the virus, in lung tissue.

  497. If you’re saying from pneumonia, I have read they are dying from the pneumonia. I just feel for those people.

  498. Has anyone read Soetoro’s book Audacity of Deceit? I read 25 pages after which I realised that I was really reading Soetoro’s own MEIN KAMPF!!!! Better watch out people it isn’t hard to see where this is all headed.

  499. i guess this movement is dead

    stuck on same old topic for last 9 months

    and no progress to show

    even the states can’t pass an eligibility law

    pathetic, nobody cares that counts, it seems

    very pathetic

  500. truthbetold11

    Power takes out Power!! Only a Power peer can take out Obama and his fraud on america, Why you ask? Look how our society is built on. Patriots don’t play high school teams! Celtics don’t play junior high teams. Supreme Court doesn’t vote on traffic violations, Citizens don’t take out presidents!! There’s not enough credability, even though the citizens are right. He has to be taken down by credable power players. Right now the power players must be closing in because there seems to be a hornets nest just stepped on!

  501. http://ohiorepublic.blogspot.com/

    38 states have introduced resolutions asserting 10th amendment rights.

  502. 38 states have introduced resolutions asserting 10th amendment rights

    >>>how many states have passed eligibility laws?

  503. venice // April 27, 2009 at 4:41 pm


    Well this is news.

    “lie to me” That’s hysterical!

  504. The world laughs at him, Americans laugh at him. But I’m sure BO is sitting there saying “we’ll see who has the last laugh”.

  505. But yes Eagle, it is hysterical.

  506. thanks da verg, that’s really inspiring

  507. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090427/ap_on_re_us/un_who_swine_flu

    Currently WHO at level 4. Level 5 occurs when virus present in 2 countries in the same region. Level 6 is a full scale global pandemic.

  508. janet from another planet


    maybe SHE should make a visit to mexico
    WE can close the BORDERS and NOT let her
    BACK in


    hey, nanawanamaga– just stating the facts.

  509. WTH? Why does it require a 747 plus a couple of fighter jets to “take pictures”???? They can’t fit cameras and a photographer on something smaller??? I smell ANOTHER rat.


  510. 100 DAYS, 100 MISTAKES – Media recount Obama’s problems in start of presidency


  511. “napolitano

    maybe SHE should make a visit to mexico
    WE can close the BORDERS and NOT let her
    BACK in


    Janet shouldn’t go along. I say send Pelosi along with her so she can have company. Like two peas in a pod, huh?

  512. Well, there you have it. CBS Evening News said the independent Pew Charitable Trust conducted surveys a couple of years ago and found U.S. hog producers located in Mexico were polluting the areas around their businesses, which areas are overrun with flies. Mexican health officials were concerned that somehow, birds infected with avian flu would transmit the virus to the hogs, and this would mutate to be the swine flu. They mentioned the flies spread these viruses around.

    Now, they’re running a story about whether criminal acts contributed to the downfall of AIG…I had this channel on, by accident; who knew CBS would broadcast the news?

  513. Has Citizen Wells stopped posting?

  514. Dems calling for harsher sanctions against Iran. Now drudge reporting Dem congressman calling for us/mex border shut down.

    Are the winds shifting?

  515. Truthbetold11

    Power takes out Power!! Only a Power peer can take out Obama and his fraud on america, Why you ask? Look how our society is built on. Patriots don’t play high school teams! Celtics don’t play junior high teams. Supreme Court doesn’t vote on traffic violations, Citizens don’t take out presidents!! There’s not enough credability, even though the citizens are right. He has to be taken down by credable power players. Right now the power players must be closing in because there seems to be a hornets nest just stepped on!


    What say you is the hornets nest just stepped on?

  516. truthbetold11

    Power takes out Power!! Only a Power peer can take out Obama and his fraud on america, Why you ask? Look how our society is built on. Patriots don’t play high school teams! Celtics don’t play junior high teams. Supreme Court doesn’t vote on traffic violations, Citizens don’t take out presidents!! There’s not enough credability, even though the citizens are right. He has to be taken down by credable power players. Right now the power players must be closing in because there seems to be a hornets nest just stepped on!

    What say you is the hornets nest just stepped on?

  517. 100 DAYS, 100 MISTAKES


  518. Mandelay,

    Why do you ask?

  519. BTW, why aren’t they closing the borders? It makes no sense at all. If you close the borders, then those in Mexico can’t infect those here, and those here won’t infect those in Mexico.

    Also, I agree with the Scriptures on the swine. While it’s a beneficial animal that Yahweh created for a purpose, for example, they are wonderful trash compactors, and just in the lower meaning of benefits to health, they are not beneficial and there’s no amount of cleaning up of them one can do. You can’t take unclean meat and make it clean. This is something that Yahweh has done. Just in the lower meaning of clean meat, there is great health potential.

    I also don’t eat it because of the higher meaning in Scriptures. When you eat the Scriptures (meaning taking in clean knowledge), why would you want the unclean (lower meaning, eating unclean meat means taking in sin of the world)?

    However, there’s nothing wrong with pigs just as an animal. Yahweh created them for a purpose to do certain things. Also, they can be trained as smart as doggies. And you wouldn’t eat your doggie, would you? Same with pigs. When they have young ones, they are sweet like so many other little beings that Yahweh created!

    It’s amazing to me that pigs also have things in their bodies that can be used to benefit humans such as meds and so forth, tissue. And this does not apply to eating unclean meat because using something that’s put into another form for meds, doesn’t apply to this.

  520. Thanks for asking, Venice. I see the last post is April 20 and today is April 27 so I was wondering if all is well. Too many blogs have disappeared or been tampered with.

  521. So we need to get the news out about Fox not showing the TOTUS. We need to have every TV everywhere tuned into FOX. Wouldn’t it be awesome if Fox blew the others away with ratings for that night?

  522. We have all the facts about chairman Seotoro.

    Cases have been turned into many courts and prosecutors.

    Just off the top of my head I can think of more then 90 felonies.

    Million dollar question ,why hasn’t there been an impeachment?.

    Do you think the courts already know ?.

    A usurper can not be impeached. An installed not an elected President can not be indicted or arrested because they are protected by the regimes leftists .

    Removing by force , nope , any attempts will only strengthen the regime.

    Vote them out of office, no way , will never happen , ACORN is already many times more powerful then they were in the last election.

    They own the MSM.

    We still have the Hugo Chavez voting machines.

    There will be 30,000,000 more Mexicans in America next election. This will be the death of America.

    At present we have no Representatives, State or Federal that will stand up against the regime.

    Private Armies and a national police force already being formed.

    The only hope is his leftists become demoralized and overthrow him or he betrays his leader Soros.

    I started this for the purpose of debate, please let me know if you disagree and why , or if you have another option.

  523. truthbetold11

    loose lips sink ships, someone will start talking and it won’t be pretty. He will be villafied by the media and obots and probably end up on the body count list.

  524. If Orly Taitz is successful, in shutting down, the usurpers phony oval office, with her latest effort, it will be curtains for Barry. QUO WARRANTO!

  525. thruthbetold11,

    Someone will start talking and it’ll most likely be an insider of the CIA.

    Orly’s case is really picking up speed as well. The plaintiff list is impressive on the military side. She needs real legal assistance from some heavy hitters as I firmly believe she’s a little out of her element at this point.

    All in all between the tea parties, all the redress going on, sovereignty bills, excessive firearm sales, I’d say Constitutional progress is clearly underway.

  526. Rocknee,

    Sorry for such a late response to your question at 2:19PM above, but nevertheless the answer is whether or not the birth-certificate issue will or won’t bear out Obama’s legitimacy.

    Most of us need to submit our birth-certificates as a form of ID for a driver’s license, so just wondering if Obama ever submitted his over the years to carry a driver license in Hawaii; Massachusetts (Harvard), California (Occidental College), New York (Columbia), Chicago, etc…again, Rocknee, sorry for a late response–not intentional.

    One last thing, not sure but didn’t Obama have some outstanding parking tickets that collected dust for many years until his run for president?

  527. Just heard a dr. on Greta say the symptoms of the swine flu was blue lips. Did barry have blue lips on the 60 min drunk video??

  528. Jeff–thanks again for the health dept. site—
    I spent tonight looking up EVERYTHING in
    Columbus and surrounding areas. It was
    eye-opening in some cases, and I’m glad to
    have the information. Thank you so, so much!
    I want to try to keep everyone healthy in light
    of this swine panic. I’m getting way more alert–
    this may sound paranoid but I moved the car
    today in the parking lot when I almost parked
    in a slot next to a pick-up with Spanish signs
    all over it. I don’t know where that truck has
    Also, I agree that the BORDER with Mexico

  529. truthbetold11

    My wife thinks I’m a freedom lover and obsessed with my stance. She is a Christian and we believe in freedom, she doesn’t seem to think that our freedoms in christ are a result of being in a free country and can practice freely. Well I sense evil fairly easily and have been alarmed for the last 4 months with no let up. Folks we live in a free country and people died that i don’t know, that blows me away blacks and whites fighting together for me and you. barry wants to divide the USA totally thats why he extremes everything and makes us go crazy, but some people love it, thats who he wants! We must stand up or be destroyed

  530. Just realized that there is NO Surgeon General
    for the United States and now we have this
    swine flu alert. What is up with that??
    I don’t trust Janet Napolitano to handle anything
    let alone medical emergencies on this level.
    Why are they having Napolitano doing this?

  531. Maddie,

    You are quite welcome. Keep a keen eye on sick folks in general. It could save your life!

    You just have to love this administration. They really do care for us. After all, they closed their borders a week ago when it was a threat during incubation. Wait, I must be thinking of some other government who cares for its people, like Russia…

  532. “Just heard a dr. on Greta say the symptoms of the swine flu was blue lips. Did barry have blue lips on the 60 min drunk video??”
    Does that mean that barry has “perpetual
    swine flu?”

  533. http://roomfordebate.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/04/27/swine-flu-a-cause-for-panic/?hp

    The first and last comments by epidemiologist and historian respectively are probably the most imformative.

    A well organized system with adequate supplies of every kind is what makes the difference with epidemics. Its what made the difference with SARS in Toronto in 2003.

  534. redneck sympathizer

    In NY there’s a May Day rally for invaders wanting amnesty.There will also be a counter protest.Go to ALIPAC for more info.Some pretty humorous comments about them wearing masks while pushing for amnesty!Shumer is already getting his amnesty push readied.

  535. loose lips sink ships, someone will start talking and it won’t be pretty. He will be villafied by the media and obots and probably end up on the body count list.

    I can think of about 5 or 6 congress people that should be deep six. Sure the others would then grow/wise up and start doing their job for us!!!

  536. Maddie,

    We do have an acting surgeon general: Steven Galson.

    But you’re right. He’s been practically MIA during this entire health issue.

  537. Ohio is one of the states that supposedly has
    “ready access” to doses of Tamiflu (sp?) as there is a case here of the swine flu.

  538. Greta getting ready to show totus screw up with the propmter, right now!!

  539. thanks, Jeff, good to know we have a
    practically “hidden” acting surgeon general.
    Wonder when we’ll hear from him?
    I do remember when Sanja Gupta (sp??)
    turned obama down for the job. That had to
    be a big slap in the face.

  540. Two things I don’t want to happen: 1. forcing
    citizens to get vaccinated against this swine
    flu & 2. cancelling any type of assemblies like
    the tea parties because of “health risks.”

  541. After thinking it over, if it ever came to the point I were forced to be vacincated against my will or face a bullet, I would choose the bullet because it would be swifter and less painful than suffering from what ever horrible illness I suffer from the vacine.

  542. Maddie,

    Good point. Cancelling assemblies means “house arrest”.

    And forcing people to get vaccinations is not good either. If that happens in this area, me and my family will disappear in the mountains behind the house for a few months.

  543. Look, Obama has on his very desk, legislation at the ready, to grant amnesty 30 million illegal aliens from Mexico.
    This is why Napolitano refuses to call this the Mexican Flu, which it is.
    Obama wants to NEVER leave power during his LIFESPAN and he’s counting on the illegals and fraudulent census to make that happen.

  544. Lies And Liars

    Last week saw an unusual number of outright lies from our media and political class. Lies that went virtually unchallenged. Yawn.


  545. Maddie // April 27, 2009 at 10:30 pm

    “Just heard a dr. on Greta say the symptoms of the swine flu was blue lips. Did barry have blue lips on the 60 min drunk video??”
    Does that mean that barry has “perpetual
    swine flu?”


    Are you trying to say he’s Typhoid Barry .

  546. All this stuff is freaking me out. When oh when will the “truth” come out and the usurper is exposed?????!!!!!! Every day this hoax continues I grow more and more anxious!

    Totally had to laugh though when Blobama screwed up on his teleprompted speech! I thought he looked a little irritated. LOL

    What did you all think of the press secretary answering questions about the fly-over in NYC. What an arrogant ignorant jerk!

    BTW haven’t seen Berlin Berlin post recently I hope everything is well.

    Did anything more come of the Marty Didier guy?

  547. nawanawanga // April 27, 2009 at 11:05 pm

    Look, Obama has on his very desk, legislation at the ready, to grant amnesty 30 million illegal aliens from Mexico.
    This is why Napolitano refuses to call this the Mexican Flu, which it is.
    Obama wants to NEVER leave power during his LIFESPAN and he’s counting on the illegals and fraudulent census to make that happen.

    OMGosh! I hope not!

  548. HA! Obie is the second LEAST popular president in 40 years….

    I also read somewhere that polarizing presidents with such dislike from the other side always TANK


  549. If this virus is stopped…..will Bush get the credit HE deserves…..only in our dreams. Obama will owe him a big THANK YOU…..wonder what the spin will be instead? How Bush prepared for this sort of thing:


  550. sandy,

    He’s not the least popular president in years because he isn’t the president.

    That makes him the most popular usurper since Arthur.

  551. http://www.thebiblicalworldview.org/political-commentary-the-days/
    Bill passed HR1913!
    Christian churches need to fight fire with fire!
    Read this article fully please!I’m gonna fight for

  552. http://www.alainsnewsletter.com/read.php?sid=164
    Heres a link about the bill HR1913!

  553. Sandy, I have wanted to send President Bush
    (whom I still think of as President) a grateful
    letter and little present to thank him (and Laura)
    for holding this country together in his hand,
    his heart, and his mind after 9/11.

    If “they” can drag up the past terrorism
    treatment during a time of war and threats
    to our country, WE THE PEOPLE can
    certainly drag up INELIGIBILITY in the
    White House—-I can’t believe there is
    no judge in this country to hear a case
    in this situation.

    Barry has NO STANDING!

  554. AP—totally agree usurper plans on making
    illegals legal just so they can all keep barryorama
    in power forever. He is typhoid Barry alright–
    everyone he touches or is around either dies
    or goes to prison or you can’t find their records
    (parents and relatives included).

  555. AP— here’s my opinion of the “fly over” in NYC
    recently—- It was HORRIFIC to scare all the
    people working that day who either had connections to the 9/11 tragedy or certainly remember it clearly. I cannot believe “our” government would ever do such a thing. No
    other “president” (of course, bho is NOT president) would have ever done this. It is a
    TOTAL DISGRACE and just represents again
    the LEVEL OF DISGRACE OBAMA is prone
    to doing without hesitation—he is an ignoramus
    and a total FOOL!

  556. Can someone find The Bush’s address so that we can all send them Thank you letters? I never thought I would say this, but, I miss him!!

    I think we should all write him letters thanking him for keeping us safe for 7 years. Now, more than ever, we should realize just how safe he kept us. These last few months have been the scariest.

    I would send him and Laura a Thank You note if given the address.

  557. Well, well, well…

    It looks as though this strain of swine flu is surprisingly similar to the Spanish Flu of 1918 that killed an estimated 40-50 million people worldwide.

    What is interesting is that the current strain is exhibiting similar reactions the first virus did: attacking healthy adults. What the virus does is that it attacks the body and it goes into overdrive, killing you in days, even hours! You simply drown in your own fluids because the immune system overreacts to the virus.

    Expect similar results. It’s time to hang around someone with a cold and grab a flu vaccine to keep the old body in check. Get out and exercise until you can’t exercise any longer.

  558. JeffM
    the MSM is still reporting only up to 149 deaths. Wonder what the real story is

  559. Eagle,

    I’m willing to bet the death toll is much higher and it’s killing people between ages 20 and 40 with healthy immune systems.

    The Mexican government is eluding the virus actually started in California or Texas, but we here know the real answer to that. We know where the virus originated from and it’s at a nice little American-owned and operated pig farm in Mexico.

    The MSM isn’t saying anything because they know this wave is just the beginning. They know it’s going to wipe out 5% of the population if it goes unchecked like it is.

    The original Spanish Flu did the same exact thing: start out as a mini flu wave, then about a month or two later it mutated and started to kill by the millions. Back then the U.S. government did very little to quarantine the disease and they knew full well it was killing thousands of U.S. soldiers on bases across the country. But since we were at war, people didn’t think twice about it.

    Surprising the country with the lowest Spanish Flu death rate was Japan because they immediately shut down their ports once the pandemic spread. Other countries didn’t do a thing and the rest is history.

  560. far left wingers are blaming stimulus bill for being stripped of influenza by GOP

    doh, what a bunch of idiots, this type of flu strain wasn’t even identified in the
    bill ! How far will these toons go to set forth the lies that they spread?

  561. FOX News is just reporting that Arlen (turncoat) Specter will run in 2010 as a DEMOCRAT.

    It’d be shocking, if he hadn’t already voted like one.

  562. For anyone who missed my prior posts concerning criminal charges being filed against Obama and Dr.Margaret Chan of the WHO, here is the email that Jane Burgermeister sent the fourwinds10 website owner.

    Criminal Charges to be filed

    Then you should listen to this Dr. on plains radio last night that mentions her, and tries to warn that this so called swine flu is a biological creation by the NWO to commit genocide in accordance to the Georgian Stones etc.

    Click on the show archived 4/27/09 to listen, and remember there are a few commercials in between, so stay tuned.

    Dr.Bill Deagle

  563. Now be a good time for some disgrunted Dems or bluedogs to cross over!! No pun intended

  564. Jacqlyn Smith

    More info on this at therightsideoflife.com


    Tuesday, April 28, 2009
    More Delays. USA/Obama Say They Need 124-Days to Answer; Congress 117 Days
    See the copy of the court documents electronically filed by the defendants on Monday, April 27, 2009:

    The lawyer for USA and Obama, Elizabeth A. Pascal, who works in the office of Ralph J. Marra, Acting United States Attorney, is now asking the Court a second time through her motion for more time to answer for the defendants.

    Initially, Ms. Pascal only represented the USA and Obama, whose answers or motions were initially due on April 27, 2009. Ms. Pascal requested and obtained an extension to file her responses to May 5, 2009.

    Now Ms. Pascal states in her declaration that former Vice President Cheney, the House of Representatives, and Speaker Pelosi have asked that the Department of Justice represent them in the action. She adds that the Justice Department is also deciding which Congressional defendants (meaning Congress, Senate, House, Cheney, and Pelosi) it will represent. Pending the Justice Department making that decision, she is moving the Court for an order allowing all the Congressional defendants more time to answer or otherwise move. She includes in her request additional time for the USA and Obama to answer, whose answers are now due on May 5, 2009.

    Ms. Pascal made her motion returnable June 1, 2009 and is asking for an order that she be allowed to file an answer or otherwise move within 20 days of the date of the order to be entered by Magistrate Judge Joel Schneider. This means that if Magistrate Judge Schneider signs the extension order on June 1, 2009, the defendants’ answers or motions will be due by June 21, 2009.

    Whether or not the President of the United States is eligible for the Office he currently occupies is of utmost national importance. Every passing day Mr. Obama takes executive action that significantly impacts on the lives of Americans. The USA and Obama have already been granted one extension to answer to May 5, 2009. They have therefore been given 77 days to answer. This is enough time for them to answer. With an extension to June 21, 2009, USA and Obama are asking for 124 days and the Congressional defendants are asking for 117 days to answer. Court rules only allow them 60 days. Such delay is not in the national interest and not acceptable. As to the Congressional defendants, a twenty-day extension for them to answer is reasonable, making their answer due by May 18, 2009. Given the national importance of the issues, an extension for all defendants to answer by June 21, 2009 is not acceptable.

    Mario Apuzzo, Esq.
    185 Gatzmer Avenue
    Jamesburg NJ 08831
    Email: apuzzo [AT] erols.com
    TEL: 732-521-1900 ~ FAX: 732-521-3906
    BLOG: http://puzo1.blogspot.com

  565. Can some one explain to me why barry is included in the lawsuit and what goods does this lady have on the WHO and barry?

  566. Jacqlyn Smith


    Rocknee // April 28, 2009 at 2:27 pm

    Can some one explain to me why barry is included in the lawsuit and what goods does this lady have on the WHO and barry?

    Rock—This is just a continuation of the Kerchner vs. Obama and the rest of the government officials who verified he was qualified to be POTUS….this gal was appointed as legal counsel for the IMPOSTER and the rest of the crew….she is now saying they haven’t had enough time to respond to the charges!!! This is a joke…..”we the people” need answers NOW and not in 2 months!!!

  567. Jacqlyn, Is this suit about removing bho
    from the Presidency due to not a NBC?
    I’m a little confused. Thanks.
    If the obama side wants more “time” to delay
    I’d say, forget that—he’s already been stalling
    on the inevitable.

  568. Was that flight over NYC a “dry run”?

  569. Jeff,

    I want to make sure I understand if you recommend flu vaccine (the previous one for this year?) and hanging around people with colds? OR are you joking? At first I thought
    this was for “real,” now I’m not sure. Please
    write back. Thanks. Scared “Maddie” in Ohio:)
    “It’s time to hang around someone with a cold and grab a flu vaccine to keep the old body in check. Get out and exercise until you can’t exercise any longer.”

  570. Barry, and the kids wanted to see the statue of liberty, so they had a low flyby disguised as a photo shoot. What’s the big deal?

  571. 1. He’s running up crushing federal debt at a level unprecedented in American history. We are talking trillions upon trillions of dollars in debt. This ensures the the future will bring ruinous taxes, runaway inflation, or eventual financial collapse.

    2. He has endorsed and benefitted from systematic violation of election and campaign funding laws. His election saw widespread voter registration fraud from his allies at ACORN and systematic acceptance of dubious campaign donations by disabling normal credit card verification procedures for online donations, allowing donations to be made from foreign donors and from donors using fictitious names. This in turn allowed donors to skirt donation limits if they wished, simply by using bogus names. In the “stimulus” bill, Obama has funded ACORN and similar groups to the tune of billions.

    3. Obama has endorsed, and will continue to foster, the entitlement mentality, playing the victim, and mob rule. A typical moment was his warning to bank executives that it was only his administration standing between executives and the mobs with pitchforks. Not mentioned was the fact that Obama’s pals at ACORN were the number one wielders of the pitchforks. Obama is also ushering in socialism at a breathtaking pace. Soon, no major expense in a normal human life will be paid for by the individual. Every major expense, from housing to advanced education to medical care, will be paid for by Big Brother. Incentives to work will be destroyed for both the “rich” and the “poor.” We will all soon be poorer as a result.

    4. Obama is gearing up to politicize and manipulate the Census to an unprecedented degree. Given the Obama campaign’s and Obama administration’s other manipulations, I believe it is extremely unlikely that Obama will not end up overcounting “homeless,” illegal aliens, and other Democratic Party interest groups. The result will be to unlawfully shift power to blue states, cementing control of the nation in the hands of statists.

    5. Obama is trampling, penalizing, micromanaging, and destroying American business to an unprecedented degree, and he’s just getting started. Already we see major automakers about to fail (of course, this is primarily the result of the power labor unions have wielded in the auto industry), we see banks failing and being taken over, and we see restaurants, retailers, and companies in the construction business struggling and failing. To reiterate: Obama is just getting started. It is a terrible time to own a business in America.

    6. Obama is lending aid, money, and support to tyrannies and terrorists. From getting chummy with Hugo Chavez to releasing dangerous GITMO terrorists to handing almost a billion dollars to Palestinian terrorists, Obama has yet to meet a terrorist or tyrant he doesn’t seem to like.

    7. Obama is discounting and attempting to undermine America’s Christian and Judeo-Christian culture. By constantly treating Christianity as the moral equivalent of atheism and Islam in his public pronouncements — and by proclaiming that America is no longer a Christian nation (even though about 80% of Americans identify as Christians), Obama is turning his back on America’s great strength.

    8. Obama is retroactively criminalizing innocent behavior and excusing unlawful behavior. He appoints tax cheats to his administration and then treats AIG executives as criminals, retroactively imposing 90% taxes on bonuses. He frees GITMO terrorists who tried to kill Americans, and then threatens to prosecute lawyers who gave legal opinions on torture — and broke no laws in doing so.

    9. He is rapidly ceding the Middle East back to terrorists and tyrants. He is trying to cozy up to Iran but, more importantly, he is withdrawing troops from Iraq even as violence escalates, risking the loss of that country in the infancy of its democracy. He is moving too slowly and ineffectually in Afghanistan as dangers grow in Pakistan. He is letting the Taliban gain str