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Arizona and Maricopa County 2020 election irregularities and fraud already proven, Why Maricopa Board of Supervisors lied and obstructed audits

Arizona and Maricopa County 2020 election irregularities and fraud already proven, Why Maricopa Board of Supervisors lied and obstructed audits

“Poll workers struggled to operate the new voting machines in Maricopa County, and improperly pressed and told voters to press a green button to override significant errors,”  “The result is that the voting machines disregarded votes cast by voters in person on Election Day in Maricopa County.”…Matt Morgan, Trump 2020 campaign’s general counsel

“The certification of Arizona’s FALSE results is unethical and knowingly participating in the corruption that has disenfranchised AZ voters,” …Jenna Ellis

“Katie Hobbs AZ Secretary of State: Trump derangement syndrome is not illegal, Election fraud, coverup and lying on vote certification is”…Citizen Wells

 

Why has the Maricopa Board of Supervisors fought so hard to prevent a real audit of the ballots, equipment and software used in the 2020 election in Arizona?

Because it will further prove that they and the Secretary of State, Katie Hobbs lied and committed fraud.

Part of the proof comes from the SOS website and they lied about that.

Before proceeding, be aware of these facts:

  • Acccording to Dr. Kelli Ward, AZ GOP chairman, there were over 200,000 adjudicated ballots in Maricopa County alone.
  • Dominion equipment facilitates the processing of adjudicated ballots (errors) and allows humans to alter ballots.
  • Adjudication is supposed to be overseen by representatives of both parties. That has been a problem nationwide.
  • AZ statute 16-602(G): “G. During any hand count of early ballots, the county officer in charge of elections and election board workers shall attempt to determine the intent of the voter in casting the ballot.”
  • The same highly questionable scenario took place in Georgia on a larger scale of 238,272 adjudicated ballots in 2 batches. GA election official Richard Barron stated the following on election night: “THE ONLY BALLOTS THAT ARE ADJUDICATED ARE IF WE HAVE A BALLOT IN WHICH THERE IS SOME QUESTION AS TO HOW THE COMPUTER READS IT. SO THE VOTE REVIEW PANEL THEN DETERMINES VOTER INTENT.”

 

The ARIZONA MANDATED “HAND COUNT AUDIT” Took place from early to mid november 2020.

All that it ever was going to accomplish was to verify how well the equipment worked on that day.

5 counties did not participate.

4 counties had discrepancies “within the acceptable margin”.

Only .3 percent of early ballots in Maricopa County were sampled.

If the standard of 2 percent failure rate was applied to the entire population of over 1.9 million early ballots in Maricopa County then over 38,000 failures would be acceptable.

Despite the fact discrepancies were found, it was touted as 100% correct.

A lie!

27 percent of counties had discrepancies!

33 percent of counties did not participate!

Maricopa County sampled only .3 percent of the ballots!

However

That being said, their best efforts to hide and obfuscate do not prevail.

From the Mohave Count audit:

Page 3

President

First Baptist Church     Hand Count  766  Difference  3  Percentage  .4 %

Riverpt. Baptist              Hand Count  733  Difference  2  Percentage  .3 %

Commissioner

First Baptist Church     Hand Count  1605  Difference  11  Percentage  .7 %

Riverpt. Baptist              Hand Count  1388  Difference  5 Percentage  .4 %

Senator

First Baptist Church     Hand Count  752 Difference  4  Percentage  .5 %

Riverpt. Baptist              Hand Count  711  Difference  1  Percentage  .1 %

Error rate applied to total ballots.

There were 3,385,294 votes cast for president in Arizona.

A .1 percent error rate would impact 3,385 ballots.

.5 percent would impact 16,926 ballots.

Page 4

What is significant about page 4 is:

“Where the hand count is greater than the machine count it is likely due to interpretations of voter intent by the board.”

So it is ok for the board to interpret voter intent?

AZ statute 16-602(G) (see above) apparently allows it.

So how many of the 200,000 plus adjudicated ballots in Maricopa County were interpreted?

It is crucial that those ballots be audited properly!

https://azsos.gov/node/1247

 

It is obvious from the Mickey Mouse so called Hand Count Audit that problems were revealed and lied about.

But that is not the only sampling that took place.

Dr. Kelli Ward chairman of the AZ GOP requested and performed 2 small audit samples in Maricopa County

The first sample of 100 ballots yielded a 2 percent error rate and 3 percent vote change in favor of Biden.

The second sample of 1,526 ballots had a .5 percent error rate.

https://citizenwells.com/2020/12/04/arizona-post-certification-gop-challenge-audit-update-dec-4-2020-maricopa-county-selected-only-60-of-2500-allowed-sample-still-found-5-errors/

The alleged margin of victory for Biden in Arizona is .3 percent.

A real and thorough audit of the 2020 Arizona election results must be performed for the good of all.

 

What are the Maricopa Board of Supervisors hiding?

 

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Trump nor Biden can be impeached unless Trump is still considered President, Biden not clear winner, State legislatures must clarify, Pence should have only counted legal votes

Trump nor Biden can be impeached unless Trump is still considered President, Biden not clear winner, State legislatures must clarify, Pence should have only counted legal votes

“Our Constitution is in actual operation; everything appears to promise that it will last; but nothing in this world is certain but death and taxes.” … Benjamin Franklin

“We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.”…Abraham Lincoln

“These are the times that try men’s souls. The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of their country; but he that stands now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman. Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph.”…Thomas Paine

 

The eighth wits in the House and Senate (I apologize to all eighth wits who have integrity) must believe that Donald Trump is still president (and he actually is) because they believe that they can impeach him.

US Constitution.

Article II, Section 4:

The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.

So, members of congress must believe that Donald Trump is still President.

And they may be right.

Joe Biden is not.

The ceremony conducted by Mike Pence was illegal because he counted illegal electoral votes presented by corrupt state officials who are not the final arbiters.

Pence should have used the option presented by Senator Cruz to put the count on hold for 10 days and get the state legislators involved to certify the votes per the Constitution.

The state legislators could have done a better job but many did in fact state that the votes certified by rogue state officers were invalid.

More about that here:

https://citizenwells.com/2021/01/07/vp-pence-certification-of-illegal-electoral-college-votes-unconstitutional-ignored-final-arbiters-state-legislature-pence-should-be-arrested-and-handcuffed/

It is not too late for the state legislatures to do their constitutional duty.

Arizona is still trying to audit their election results despite the best efforts of election officials to obfuscate and delay, a clear indicator of guilt.

So what in the hell is Joe Biden doing in the White House?

This is a real constitutional crisis of a magnitude never encountered in this country.

State legislatures, do your damn job!

Citizens, hold them accountable!

More to come.

 

 

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Timothy King et al v Gretchen Whitmer, et al US Supreme Court re Michigan election fraud, “ballot-stuffing.” ” amplified…. by computer software “

Timothy King et al v Gretchen Whitmer, et al US Supreme Court re Michigan election fraud, “ballot-stuffing.” ” amplified…. by computer software ”

“We discovered that these systems are subject to different types of unauthorized manipulation and potential fraud,”  “There is a reason that Texas rejected it,”...Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton

“Trump’s not gonna win. I made f*cking sure of that!”...Eric Coomer, executive with Dominion Voting Systems

“We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.”…Abraham Lincoln

 

Timothy King et al v Gretchen Whitmer

PETITION FOR WRIT OF CERTIORARI

Filed December 11, 2020

“The scheme and artifice to defraud illegally and fraudulently
manipulate the vote count to manufacture the “election” of Joe Biden as
President of the United States. The fraud was executed by many means,
but the most fundamentally troubling, insidious, and egregious ploy was
the systemic adaptation of old-fashioned “ballot-stuffing.” It has now
been amplified and rendered virtually invisible by computer software
created and run the vote tabulation by domestic and foreign actors for
that very purpose. The petition detailed an especially egregious range of
conduct in Wayne County and the City of Detroit, though this conduct
occurred throughout the State with the cooperation and control of
Michigan state election officials, including Respondents.”

https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/20/20-815/163621/20201211163936285_Petition%20Michigan%20.pdf

From the

PETITIONERS’ NOTICE OF SUPPLEMENTAL AUTHORITY

Filed December 15, 2020.

“11. In Michigan, a preliminary report, conducted by Russell James
Ramsland, Jr. of Allied Security Operations Group, LLC (“ASOG”), summarizing
the results of ASOG’s court-ordered forensic audit of Dominion Voting Systems
equipment used in Antrim County, Michigan, was released on December 14, 2020. A copy of this report is attached hereto as Exhibit A. The report delivers the following preliminary conclusion:

We conclude that the Dominion Voting System is intentionally and
purposefully designed with inherent errors to create systemic fraud and
influence election results. The system intentionally generates an
enormously high number of ballot errors. The electronic ballots are then
transferred for adjudication. The intentional errors lead to bulk
adjudication of ballots with no oversight, no transparency, and no audit
trail. This leads to voter or election fraud. Based on our study, we
conclude that The Dominion Voting System should not be used in
Michigan. We further conclude that the results of Antrim County
should not have been certified.

Exh. A, ¶ B(2), p. 1. This Interim Report finds that the Dominion software was
updated between the November 3, 2020 election and the subsequent recounts and that the updated software inexplicably produced wildly different results from the election day version. Id. at ¶ B(3), p. 2.

12. The Interim Report finds that the ballot adjudication process is a major
avenue for election fraud on the Dominion system. Further, it finds that the
adjudication log entries are missing from the system – evidence of tampering,
destruction of evidence and a violation of state law. “[T]heir conspicuous absence is extremely suspicious since the files exist for previous years using the same software.” Id. at ¶ B(15), p. 3.”

https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/20/20-815/163875/20201215164905775_Final%20Michigan%20Notice%20of%20Supplemental%20Authority.pdf

 

 

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Electoral college rules and governing laws explained , Elector warnings, Faithless electors to US Constitution vs states or parties, Knowingly voting for fraudulent certification

Electoral college rules and governing laws explained , Elector warnings, Faithless electors to US Constitution vs states or parties, Knowingly voting for fraudulent certification

“§ 8.   The electors shall vote for President and Vice President, respectively, in the manner directed by the Constitution.”...US Election Law

“Electoral College electors owe an allegiance first and foremost to the US Constitution over State and political party dictates.”...Citizen Wells

“We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.”…Abraham Lincoln

 

Electors in Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and indeed all states you are being forewarned.

Voting for a candidate as a result of a fraudulent certification is fraud.

Ignorance is no excuse in the eyes of the law.

A review of the current status of the 6 states above will be forthcoming.

An injunction in those states should be filed preventing you from being in jeopardy of committing fraud.

From Citizen Wells December 13, 2020.

“Presidential Election

ELECTORAL COLLEGE QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS

Q: What is the Electoral College?:

A: The Electoral College was established by the founding fathers
as a compromise between election of the president by Congress and
election by popular vote. The people of the United States vote for
the electors who then vote for the President. Read more

Q: Frequently asked questions:

A: Read more here

Q: Why did the Founding Fathers create the Electoral College?:

A:  The Founding Father’s intent

Here is a quote by Alexander Hamilton who, like many of the founding
fathers, was “afraid a tyrant could manipulate public opinion and come
to power.” Hamilton wrote in the Federalist Papers:

“It was equally desirable, that the immediate election should be made
by men most capable of analyzing the qualities adapted to the station,
and acting under circumstances favorable to deliberation, and to a
judicious combination of all the reasons and inducements which were
proper to govern their choice. A small number of persons, selected by
their fellow-citizens from the general mass, will be most likely to
possess the information and discernment requisite to such complicated
investigations. It was also peculiarly desirable to afford as little
opportunity as possible to tumult and disorder. This evil was not least
to be dreaded in the election of a magistrate, who was to have so
important an agency in the administration of the government as the
President of the United States. But the precautions which have been so
happily concerted in the system under consideration, promise an
effectual security against this mischief.”

Q: What are the state laws governing Electors?:

A: List of states and restrictions on Electors

Q: What are so called “Faithless Electors”?:

A: “The Supreme Court has held that the Constitution does not require
that electors be completely free to act as they choose and therefore,
political parties may extract pledges from electors to vote for the
parties’ nominees. Some State laws provide that so-called “faithless
electors” may be subject to fines or may be disqualified for casting
an invalid vote and be replaced by a substitute elector. The Supreme
Court has not specifically ruled on the question of whether pledges
and penalties for failure to vote as pledged may be enforced under
the Constitution. No elector has ever been prosecuted for failing to
vote as pledged.” Read more here

The US Supreme Court Obviously has not given Electors the option to
violate the US Constitution. Therefore, obviously, if the presidential
candidate is qualified, party pledges and state laws are permissable.

Q: What must an Elector be aware of when voting for a presidential candidate?:

 A: The following are important considerations when casting a vote. Voting
as instructed by a political party, another person, or a state law in
conflict with the US Constitution or Federal Election Laws is a serious
matter. Those not voting in accordance with higher laws are subject to
prosecution and may be guilty of “High Crimes and Misdemeanors.”
High Crimes and Misdemeanors

UNITED STATES ELECTION LAW

“The following provisions of law governing Presidential Elections are contained in Chapter 1 of Title 3, United States Code (62 Stat. 672, as amended):”

“§ 8.   The electors shall vote for President and Vice President, respectively, in the manner directed by the Constitution.”

ARE ELECTORS REQUIRED TO VOTE ACCORDING TO POPULAR VOTE?

“There is no Constitutional provision or Federal law that requires
electors to vote according to the results of the popular vote in
their States. Some States, however, require electors to cast their
votes according to the popular vote. These pledges fall into two
categories—electors bound by State law and those bound by pledges
to political parties.”   (From US National Archives)

SO CALLED “FAITHLESS ELECTORS”

“It turns out there is no federal law that requires an elector to
vote according to their pledge (to their respective party). And so,
more than a few electors have cast their votes without following the
popular vote or their party. These electors are called “faithless
electors.”

In response to these faithless electors’ actions, several states
have created laws to enforce an elector’s pledge to his or her party
vote or the popular vote. Some states even go the extra step to
assess a misdemeanor charge and a fine to such actions. For example,
the state of North Carolina charges a fine of $10,000 to faithless
electors.

It’s important to note, that although these states have created these
laws, a large number of scholars believe that such state-level laws
hold no true bearing and would not survive constitutional challenge.”
Read more here

STATE LAW EXAMPLE: PENNSYLVANIA

Ҥ 3192. Meeting of electors; duties.
The electors chosen, as aforesaid, shall assemble at the seat
of government of this Commonwealth, at 12 o’clock noon of the
day which is, or may be, directed by the Congress of the United
States, and shall then and there perform the duties enjoined upon
them by the Constitution and laws of the United States
.”

“The mysteries of the Electoral College has enabled Pennsylvania
to play an unusually major role in determining who is President.
In 1796, Thomas Jefferson defeated John Adams in Pennsylvania’s
popular election by only 62 votes, but the Pennsylvania electors
gave Jefferson 14 votes and Adams 1, though Adams did win the
Electoral vote, 71 to 68.” Read more here

ELECTORS HELPED SAVE THE UNION

1860 election: 4 electors in New Jersey, pledged for Stephen Douglas,
voted for Republican candidate Abraham Lincoln.

Q: What happens after the Electoral College vote?:

A: Electoral College procedures

Q: What is the significance of your vote?:

A: The US Constitution clearly gives the states the power
and duties associated with electing a qualified president.
It is also clear that the states have not performed their
duties to ensure that the Electoral College votes will be
for a Qualified candidate. The Electors have a constitutional
duty to perform that supersedes any party contract or state
law. Each day that passes without verification of eligibility
of any candidate being voted for by Electors, brings us closer
to a constitutional crisis. There are pending court cases before
the US Supreme Court and state courts. Congress will meet in
January to count and certify votes and there will certainly be
challenges in Congress. If Congress or the courts shall fail to
do their duty, a Supreme Court Justice will be faced with a
decision to uphold the Constitution. The crisis will increase
in intensity.”

https://citizenwells.com/2008/12/13/2008-us-presidential-election-electoral-college-electors-us-constitution-federal-election-law-state-election-laws-state-officers-state-election-officials-judges-us-supreme-court-justices-dem/December

From Citizen Wells December 17, 2008.

“The ultimate objective of a presidential election to inaugurate a
constitutionally qualified president that as closely as possible
reflects the will of the people.
The states have been given the power and the duty to control presidential
elections by the US Constitution.

The pervasive attitudes of the state officers and election officials is
that they, incorrectly, have no power to qualify presidential candidates
and/or they depend on political parties to vet the candidates.

The political parties have evolved and changed since the creation of the
US Consitution and are given no powers. However, members of the parties,
as US Citizens have an implied duty to uphold the Constitution and party
officers typically have taken oaths as elected officials to uphold the
US Constitution.

Clearly, the intent of the US Constitution and Federal Election Law is
for an eligible candidate to move through this election process to allow
for a constitutionally valid vote by Electors.”

“Even though the manner of Electoral College voting in clearly defined by
the US Constitution and Federal Election Law, some states have included
explicit references to law in their Certificates of Voters that are
signed by Electors and state officers. Below are certificates from 2004.

http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/electoral-college/2004_certificates/

Alabama

“pursuant to the Constitution and the laws of the United States
and this state, certify”

Alaska

“by authority of law vested in us”

Arizona

“by authority of law in us vested”

Arkansas

“as provided by law”

California

“pursuant to the Constitution and the laws of the United States
and the state of california, do hereby certify”

Connecticut

“in pursuance of the Constitution and laws of the United States
and in the manner provided by the laws of the state of Connecticut”

Hawaii

“in pursuance of the Constitution and laws of the United States”

Idaho

“having met agreeably to the provisions of law”

Illinois

“as provided by law”

Indiana

“as required by the Twelfth Amendment to the Constitution of
the United States”

Iowa

“in accordance with law”

Kansas

“agreeably to the provisions of law”

Kentucky

“In accordance with the Twelfth Amendment to the United States
Constitution, and with sections 7-11 of Title III of the
United States Code”

UNITED STATES CODE

TITLE 3 THE PRESIDENT

Manner of voting

§ 8.   The electors shall vote for President and Vice President, respectively, in the manner directed by the Constitution.

US Constitution

Article. II.

Section. 1.
“No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.”
Minnesota

“In testimony whereof, and as required by the Twelth Amendment
to the Constitution of the United States we have hereunto set
our hands”

Montana

“agreeable to the provisions of law”

Nevada

“agreeably to the provisions of law”

New Jersey

“proceeded to perform the duties required of us by the Constitution
and laws of the United States.”

North Carolina

“by authority of law in us vested”

Pennsylvania

“agreeably to the provisions of law”

Rhode Island

“in pursuance of law”

South Carolina

“pursuant to the Constitution and laws of the United States and of
this state”

Tennessee

“pursuant to the Constitution and laws of the United States and of
this state”

Utah

“in pursuance of the statutes of the United States and of the statutes
of the State of Utah”

Virginia

“in pursuance of the Constitution and laws of the United States”

Washington

“pursuant to the provisions of federal and state law”

Conclusion

  • The US Constitution is clear on presidential eligibility and how
    Electoral Colleges Electors are to vote.
  • Ignorance is no excuse. Everyone involved was forewarned. Voting
    party line over law will not be tolerated.
  • Electors and state officers have signed or will sign Certificates of Voters
    for the 2008 Election. As you can see from the above, they will
    certify that they are aware of the law and are abiding by the law.
  • Kentucky gets the award for the most constitutionally clear wording
    and should be applauded for doing so.
  • There are consequences for false attesting.
  • One of the consequences is that the votes of many Electors are now
    null and void.
  • Impeachment, recall, firing, criminal charges forthcoming?”

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Georgia recount: Floyd County finds over 2600 ballots uncounted, Multiple Trump ballots called for Biden, Tabulating methods?, Ballots validated?

Georgia recount: Floyd County finds over 2600 ballots uncounted, Multiple Trump ballots called for Biden, Tabulating methods?, Ballots validated?

“We discovered that these systems are subject to different types of unauthorized manipulation and potential fraud,”  “There is a reason that Texas rejected it,”...Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton

“Trump’s not gonna win. I made f*cking sure of that!”...Eric Coomer, executive with Dominion Voting Systems

“It’s Massive, Criminal Voter Fraud! – It’s Going to Blow the Mind of Everyone In This Country!”...Attorney Sidney Powell on Dominion Voting Systems 

 

Big errors are already being revealed in the Georgia election recount’

From The Hill November 16, 2020.

“More than 2,600 votes have reportedly been uncovered in Georgia amid its recount process that weren’t previously included in the state’s overall tally of ballots in the presidential election.

According to The Atlanta Journal-Constitution, the ballots were uncovered in Floyd County.

Gabriel Sterling, who serves as Georgia’s voting system manager, told the newspaper the mishap was the result of human error, not equipment issues.

The ballots, Sterling said, hadn’t previously been included in the state’s unofficial tally because they hadn’t been uploaded from a ballot scanning machine’s memory card.

Sterling called the mishap “an amazing blunder” in comments to the paper, saying, “It’s not an equipment issue. It’s a person not executing their job properly.”

“This is the kind of situation that requires a change at the top of their management side,” he continued while also calling on the local county’s elections director to step down.

Chris Harvey, director of the elections division for the office of Georgia’s secretary of state, also confirmed to the paper that newly unearthed batch of votes will be added to the state’s overall tally.”

Read more:

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/526234-vote-recount-in-georgia-finds-over-2600-ballots-in-floyd-county

President Trump won over 70% of Floyd County.

Hmmmm.

From Zero Hedge November 17, 2020.

“”No, This Is Trump”: Georgia Recount Auditor Claims Multiple Trump Ballots Fraudulently Called For Biden
A GOP recount observer in Georgia claims that several ballots recorded as Biden were actually votes for Trump, and workers conducting the recount became angry when he reported what was happening to elections officials.

The insider told Project Veritas, “The second person was supposed to be checking it right, three times in three minutes she called out Biden,” adding “The second auditor caught it and she said, “No, this is Trump.””

“Now, that’s just while I’m standing there. So, does the second checker catch it every time? But this lady in three times in three minutes from 2:09 to 2:12 she got three wrong.”” he continued, adding “They were calling their bosses. They were pointing at me…””

Read more:

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/no-trump-georgia-recount-auditor-claims-multiple-trump-ballots-fraudulently-called-biden

What methods are used to verify accurate tabulations?

Are the ballots being verified as authentic?

 

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Jonathan Turley et al schooled on Kamala Harris NBC status by Citizen Wells commenter, Turley commenter and of course Wells, Harris not Natural Born Citizen

Jonathan Turley et al schooled on Kamala Harris NBC status by Citizen Wells commenter, Turley commenter and of course Wells, Harris not Natural Born Citizen

“The judicial power of the United States is extended to all cases arising under the constitution. Could it be the intention of those who gave this power, to say that, in using it, the constitution should not be looked into? That a case arising under the constitution should be decided without examining the instrument under which it arises? This is too extravagant to be maintained.”
“Why does a judge swear to discharge his duties agreeably to the constitution of the United States, if that constitution forms no rule for his government? if it is closed upon him, and cannot be inspected by him?”…Marbury V Madison

“Every American President before Obama had two parents who were American citizens.”...Jonathan Turley commenter George

“The Natural Born Citizen requirement for the US Presidency should have been ruled on and clarified in 2008 by the SCOTUS. Marbury v Madison makes that clear. To not do so now would be treasonous.”…Citizen Wells

 

A decision was made at Citizen Wells in 2008 to go for quality over quantity in commenters. It has paid off.

The spam filters stay busy.

Longtime quality commenter Pete is a fine example.

He schools Jonathan Turley, et al on the qualifications to be POTUS as a Natural Born Citizen.

From Pete today.

“The issue for people like Turley, is that they are hung up on British Common Law and it’s consequences to the United States Criminal Justice system. Since most Americans are ignorant of their history and heritage, this is what you get.

Specifically, the US Supreme court needs to interpret the term “Natural Born Citizen”. The framers intent, that one could never be “King of England” and President of the United States, put the term into the requirements for POTUS, and the 12th Amendment added the requirement for VPOTUS. The did this to prevent ‘entanglements’. Please see letters from John Jay to George Washington, to understand that the Commander in Chief of the Military couldn’t have dual loyalties.

The poorly educated, or those that simply want a work around to the Constitution use English Common law reference for British Subjects to subvert the Constitution and the Republic. Yet these opinions have no explanation for why the War of 1812 was fought (over press ganging of US sailors who were born as British Subjects), and understanding that We the People ABSOLUTELY did not accept British Common law as it pertains to our citizens. However, the Founding Father’s clearly understood that they were born British Subjects, so that had to put an exemption into the Constitution, so that those born before 1790 didn’t have to be “Natural Born”.

So…..Where did the term Natural Born Citizen come from? Clearly it wasn’t British because 1) We didn’t accept British Common law on our citiizens. 2) British are born as Subjects, NOT CITIZENS, in that time and place. Therefore, we must look elsewhere to find what the founding fathers were reading to understand their intent. Herein lies the history of who were were allied with in 1790, and it wasn’t the British. Yes, we were most definitively allied with the French. Indeed, the answer lies here.

https://oll.libertyfund.org/titles/vattel-the-law-of-nations-lf-ed

The answer is France, and a unique piece of critical thinking at the time. Vattel’s work on laws of nations.

However, claiming that it was Vattel that they turned to, without evidence, is making a story whole cloth. On the other hand, if there were proof that those individuals who conspired to create the Republic were aware of Vattel, read Vattel, then it becomes obvious that the Term “Natural Born Citizen” is derived from that work.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-library-washington/george-washingtons-library-book-returned-221-yrs-late-idUSTRE64J4EG20100520

“The missing book came to light when the New York Society Library was restoring its 1789-1792 charging ledger, which features the borrowing history of Washington, John Adams, John Jay, Aaron Burr, Alexander Hamilton, George Clinton, and others.”

Lawyers lie, and History leaves NO DOUBT that they were reading and exchanging about Vattel’s Law of Nations. Natural Born Citizen, under Vattel, is and individual without divided loyalties at birth. That person, born of two citizen parents, on citizen soil, could claim no other country and could not be claimed by another. There was no conflict.

This story can only be understood under the geopolitical events of the time of the writing of the Constitution. We know the geopolitical events, we have the evidence of whose ideas they talked about and read, and we know why. Today’s Democrats and those Ignorant of the Constitution would destroy it and distort our history to bring their ‘new’ government. That political history is not in doubt now that we know the last POTUS used government itself to subvert the Republic as he spied on his political opponents.

In the words of our founding fathers “I hold these truths to be self evident”. The SCOTUS needs to make a decision, to take up the burden and decide upon the fate of the Republic by ‘determining’ what the term Natural Born Citizen meant.”

From astute commenter George at Jonathan Turley’s website commenting on

“Kamala Harris will NEVER be eligible to be U.S. president or vice president.

Kamala Harris’ parents were foreign citizens at the time of her birth.

– A mere “citizen” could only have been President at the time of the adoption of the Constitution – not after.

– The U.S. Constitution, Article 2, Section 1, Clause 5, requires the President to be a “natural born citizen,” which, by definition in the Law of Nations, requires “parents who are citizens” at the time of birth of the candidate and that he be “…born of a father who is a citizen;…”

– Ben Franklin thanked Charles Dumas for copies of the Law of Nations which “…has been continually in the hands of the members of our Congress, now sitting,…”

– “The importance of The Law of Nations, therefore, resides both in its systematic derivation of international law from natural law and in its compelling synthesis of the modern discourse of natural jurisprudence with the even newer language of political economy. The features help to explain the continuing appeal of this text well into the nineteenth century among politicians, international lawyers and political theorists of every complexion,” Law of Nations Editors Bela Kapossy and Richard Whatmore.

– The Jay/Washington letter of July, 1787, raised the presidential requirement from citizen to “natural born citizen” to place a “strong check” against foreign allegiances by the commander-in-chief.

– Every American President before Obama had two parents who were American citizens.

– The Constitution is not a dictionary and does not define words or phrases like “natural born citizen” as a dictionary, while the Law of Nations, 1758, did.”

“The “case law” is the pudding – it is in the Jay/Washington letter which imposed a “STRONG CHECK” against candidates for president and command in chief as citizenship status – the strongest check, “natural born citizen,” being far stronger than “citizen,” the only formal and complete definition existing in the Law of Nations, 1758, which “…has been continually in the hands of the members of our Congress, now sitting,….” according to Ben Franklin.

“Natural Born Citizen”- Strong Check

“Citizen” – Weak Check
___________________

To George Washington from John Jay, 25 July 1787

From John Jay

New York 25 July 1787

Dear Sir

I was this morning honored with your Excellency’s Favor of the 22d

Inst: & immediately delivered the Letter it enclosed to Commodore

Jones, who being detained by Business, did not go in the french Packet,

which sailed Yesterday.

Permit me to hint, whether it would not be wise & seasonable to

provide a strong check to the admission of Foreigners into the

administration of our national Government, and to declare expressly that the Command in chief

of the american army shall not be given to, nor devolved on, any but a natural born Citizen.

Mrs Jay is obliged by your attention, and assures You of her perfect

Esteem & Regard—with similar Sentiments the most cordial and sincere

I remain Dear Sir Your faithful Friend & Servt

John Jay”

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https://jonathanturley.org/2020/08/14/yes-kamala-harris-is-eligible-for-vice-president/comment-page-2/#comment-1990909

After multiple attempts to get a comment posted and approved, I replied to several existing comments.

One of numerous articles I have posted that explains the ruse:

https://citizenwells.com/2016/11/11/chuck-todd-is-not-stupid-todd-is-along-with-media-and-democrat-party-biased-and-colluding-zero-proof-of-obama-us-birth-chuck-todd-and-nbc-staff-attack-trump-for-insulting-president-birth-certi/

 

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Vermont Supreme Court decision in Paige natural born citizen lawsuit, June 16, 2017, H. Brooke Paige v. State of Vermont Secretary of State James Condos Ted Cruz Marco Rubio, 3-2 decision

Vermont Supreme Court decision in Paige natural born citizen lawsuit, June 16, 2017, H. Brooke Paige v. State of Vermont Secretary of State James Condos Ted Cruz Marco Rubio, 3-2 decision

“If then the courts are to regard the constitution; and the constitution is superior to any ordinary act of the legislature; the constitution, and not such ordinary act, must govern the case to which they both apply.”
“The judicial power of the United States is extended to all cases arising under the constitution. Could it be the intention of those who gave this power, to say that, in using it, the constitution should not be looked into? That a case arising under the constitution should be decided without examining the instrument under which it arises? This is too extravagant to be maintained.”
“Why does a judge swear to discharge his duties agreeably to the constitution of the United States, if that constitution forms no rule for his government? if it is closed upon him, and cannot be inspected by him?”…Marbury V Madison

“These are the times that try men’s souls. The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of their country; but he that stands now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman. Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph.”…Thomas Paine

“Moore said he’s seen no convincing evidence that Obama is a “natural born citizen” and a lot of evidence that suggests he is not.”…Judge Roy Moore interview by WND

 

From  H. Brooke Paige.

“A quick read finds that the court chose not to reach the merits and
rendered a split (3-2) decision on the issue of mootness. While not
stated, it appears that they did not find that plaintiff/appellant lacked
standing or that the court lacked jurisdiction.  The court erred in
assigning blame for procedural delays entirely on plaintiff as I did not
make requests for elongation of time in filing while the defendants did so
on five occasions.

Robinson, with Eaton concurring, took exception with the court’s failure
to find that case presented a permissible exception to mootness.”

From the decision:

“¶ 12. As to the second prong, appellant recognizes the change in the facts, acknowledging in his brief that “[w]e are beyond the primary election in Vermont.” In response, he re-directs his argument away from the fall 2016 election and toward future elections. First, he maintains that
addressing the issue of whether Senators Cruz and Rubio are constitutionally qualified to appear on future ballots not only would redress his injuries but also would be practical for the public as a whole:
The Court can give plaintiff a remedy which will redress his injuries,
that remedy being a declaration that Cruz and Rubio are not Article
II natural born citizens and that the Vermont Secretary of State is
not to place their names on the primary or general election ballot in
future presidential elections. . . . At this stage, it will not cause the
State of Vermont any inconvenience or extra expense for it to follow
a judgment of this Court as to whether the names of Cruz or Rubio
should be allowed to be printed on future election ballots.
Addressing the issue at this early stage will avoid any confusion or
interference with the rights of Vermont voters to cast their ballots
during future elections. (Emphasis added)
And later appellant directly argues that the issue is bound to come up again:
The issue of what is a natural born citizen and the state’s role in
answering that question as it applies to placing candidates for
president on the state election ballots remains even though the
election is over . . . this issue just keeps coming up but is never
resolved for one reason or another. (Emphasis added)
¶ 13. Without assessing the first prong of the test for cases that are capable of repetition but evading review, we determine that appellant is unable to satisfy the second prong—he is unable to show that there is a reasonable expectation that he “will be subjected to the same action again.”
Id. ¶ 6. Appellant’s argument here boils down to mere speculation: “Cruz and Rubio will probably be running for President again in 2020.” While it is true that the Senators may run for president during the next election, appellant must show that it is more than just “theoretically possible” that the situation he currently objects to will repeat itself; rather, he must show a “demonstrated probability” that he will become embroiled again in this same situation. In re Green Mountain
Power Corp., 148 Vt. 333, 335, 532 A.2d 582, 584 (1987). But appellant offers nothing to support his speculation—no legal filings by either Senator and no statements by either Senator to the effect that they will run for president in the future.
¶ 14. A decision by this Court regarding the meaning of the phrase “natural born
Citizen”—and, ultimately, whether the Senators may run for president in Vermont—cannot be based on mere speculation. Appellant’s case is similar to those in which we have found that the capable-of-repetition-but-evading-review exception does not apply. See In re P.S., 167 Vt. at 68,
702 A.2d at 101 (holding that appeal of revocation of nonhospitalization order of mental patient who had later been released under separate order did not meet mootness exception because court’s findings regarding first order were specific to month in which they were made and any future revocations would “be based on new fact patterns”); Dor ia, 156 Vt. at 119-20, 589 A.2d at 319
(finding that mootness exception did not apply in case in which defeated gubernatorial candidate objected to poll conducted by university professor, because candidate did not “show any reasonable expectation that he will be subjected to the same type of political poll” in future elections); see also State v. Gundlah, 160 Vt. 193, 196, 624 A.2d 368, 370 (1993) (holding that no
mootness exception applied in journalist’s appeal of contempt-of-court conviction for refusing to testify at prosecution of prison escapee who subsequently pleaded no contest, because “[a] repetition of the fact pattern presented seems highly unlikely and certainly does not rise to a
reasonable expectation.”). ”

“¶ 17. Appellant’s case is moot because it no longer involves an actual controversy, appellant no longer has a legally cognizable interest in its outcome, and it does not meet either exception to the mootness doctrine argued by appellant. At this time, any opinion issued by this Court on the issues raised by appellant would merely be advisory, and would not be within our
constitutional authority to render. See Doria, 156 Vt. at 117, 589 A.2d at 318. We therefore affirm its dismissal by the trial court.”

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Citizen Wells time to open up Obama records place of birth investigation by Justice Dept., NBC fake news and lies continue about Trump, I challenge NBC or other fake news sites to prove US birth, NO certified original copy of Obama birth certificate presented

Citizen Wells time to open up Obama records place of birth investigation by Justice Dept., NBC fake news and lies continue about Trump, I challenge NBC or other fake news sites to prove US birth, NO certified original copy of Obama birth certificate presented

“Why has Obama, since taking the White House, used Justice Department Attorneys, at taxpayer expense,  to avoid presenting a legitimate birth certificate and college records?”…Citizen Wells

“Moore said he’s seen no convincing evidence that Obama is a “natural born citizen” and a lot of evidence that suggests he is not.”…Judge Roy Moore interview by WND

“We are being lied to on a scale unimaginable by George Orwell.”…Citizen Wells

 

 

NBC News keeps harping on Donald Trump not being honest or exagerating.

They keep mentioning Trump’s involvement in the “birther” movement.

“Additionally, if you go back before Trump’s presidency, there’s his “birther” claims against Obama”

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/first-read/welcome-our-post-truth-presidency-n729481

I am calling for a Justice Department investigation into Barack Obama’s records including but not limited to.

  • His birth certificate and proof of US birth.
  • His passport (which John Brennan’s company may have cauterized).
  • His Selective Service application.
  • His college records.
  • Other records that may relate to immigration.

Time for NBC News and the other fake news sites to put up or shut up.

The so called birth certificate placed on WhiteHouse.gov was not a certified copy of an original.

Birth certificates did not look like that in 1961!

At the bottom of the image we find.

From the US State Department Passport site.

“*A certified birth certificate has a registrar’s raised, embossed, impressed or multicolored seal, registrar’s signature, and the date the certificate was filed with the registrar’s office, which must be within 1 year of your birth. Please note, some short (abstract) versions of birth certificates may not be acceptable for passport purposes.”

https://citizenwells.com/2011/04/10/donald-trump-obama-investigation-passport-requirements-clarified-some-short-abstract-versions-of-birth-certificates-may-not-be-acceptable/

If the image is not a forgery, Hawaii may consider it a birth certificate as an abstract, since there were 4 ways to get one in 1961, but it does not prove US birth!

 

 

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Commander in Chief and Lt. Col. Terry Lakin challenged Obama’s eligibility and birth certificate, Donald Trump in White House, Lakin spent six months in Leavenworth and was dishonorably discharged, Sign petition to pardon Lakin

Commander in Chief and Lt. Col. Terry Lakin challenged Obama’s eligibility and birth certificate, Donald Trump in White House, Lakin spent six months in Leavenworth and was dishonorably discharged, Sign petition to pardon Lakin

“These are the times that try men’s souls. The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of their country; but he that stands now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman. Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph.”…Thomas Paine

I, [name], do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and
defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies,
foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to
the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental
reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully
discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter.
So help me God.”…US Military officer’s oath of office

“Moore said he’s seen no convincing evidence that Obama is a “natural born citizen” and a lot of evidence that suggests he is not.”…Judge Roy Moore interview by WND

 

 

Donald Trump, now Commander in Chief, and Lt. Col. Terry Lakin both challenged Obama’s eligibility and birth certificate.

Trump now controls the White House.

Lakin spent six months in Leavenworth and was dishonorably discharged.

They were both doing their constitutional duty when they questioned Obama.

There is still zero proof of Obama’s US birth and eligibility to have been POTUS.

From Citizen Wells December 8, 2010.

“Which part of “Chain of Command” do they not understand?

From Citizen Wells September 5, 2010.

“From the US Army Study Guide.

Chain of Command List

Posted Monday, July 23, 2007

Commander-in-Chief  -President George W. Bush
Chairman Joint Chiefs of Staff  -General Peter Pace
Army Chief of Staff
-General George W. Casey, Jr.
Theater Commander  –
Corps Commander  –
Division Commander  –
Brigade Commander  –
Battalion Commander  –
Company/Troop Commander  –
Platoon Leader  –
Section/Squad/Team Leader”

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LTC Terry Lakin memo dated November 20, 2009.

“MEMORANDUM FOR General Casey, Chief of Staff, U.S. Army

SUBJECT: Complaint of Wrongs Under Article 138, UCMJ (AR 27-10)

1. I would like to officially submit a complaint under Article 138, UCMJ against General Casey, Chief of Staff of the Army. I believe General Casey is following and promulgating invalid and/or illegal orders from a person that is not eligible to be the Commander-in-Chief of our Armed Forces.”

Read more:

http://www.safeguardourconstitution.com/images/stories/documents/apf05-ucmjarticle138nov16.pdf

JAG letter to LTC Lakin dated December 11, 2009.
“This responds to your November 20, 2009, memorandum to General George Casey, Chief of Staff, U.S. Army, subject: Complaint of Wrongs Under Article 138 (AR 27-10).”
Army Regulation 27-10, paragraphs 20-4b and 20-4e define the terms “commanding officer” and “wrong,” respectfully. A “commanding officer” is “[a]n officer in the complainant’s chain of command, up to and including the first officer exercising general court-martial jurisdiction over the complainant, authorized to impose nonjudicial punishment (Article 15, UCMJ) on the complainant.” General Casey does not meet the definition of “commanding officer” because he is not a member of your chain of command and he does not have the authority to impose nonjudicial punishment on you.”

“Robin N. Swope
Colonel, US Army
Chief, Administrative Law Division”

Read more:

http://www.safeguardourconstitution.com/images/stories/documents/apf06-jagletter0717_001.pdf

Which part of “Chain of Command” do they not understand?

Obama, if he were eligible to be president, would be in this chain of command. Since he is not eligible, he should immediately be arrested. If you are in the military, including, but not limited to General Casey, and you are not involved in removing or at least challenging the usurper in the White House, you should be court martialed, not LTC Lakin. If you are involved in preventing LTC Lakin from challenging the usurper, Obama, from doing his sworn duty as a military officer, you should be shot.”

https://citizenwells.com/2010/12/08/ltc-terry-lakin-court-martial-chain-of-command-us-army-study-guide-general-george-casey-chief-of-staff-citizen-wells-open-thread-december-8-2010/

From the Post & Email January 26, 2017.

“In a pre-recorded interview from Thursday morning between Fox News’s Sean Hannity and President Donald Trump, Trump said he is currently “looking at” the request for a pardon for U.S. Navy sailor Christian Saucier, who was convicted of mishandling classified information after taking photos with his cell phone of an area of the submarine on which he was stationed.”

“Hannity also mentioned 1st Lt. Clint Lorance, who was convicted at court-martial of murdering three Afghan men on motorcycles who he believed were about to launch a terrorist attack against his unit in July 2012.”

“Although given a much shorter sentence, Lt. Col. Terry Lakin, a former flight surgeon, spent six months in Leavenworth and was dishonorably discharged from the Army, with loss of pay and benefits, for questioning Barack Obama’s eligibility in 2010.

Lakin’s case was not mentioned by either Trump or Hannity, although Trump said he was examining “several” pardon requests which constitutionally, only the chief executive may grant.

In his final weeks, Obama issued pardons to a significant number of drug dealers, to individuals convicted of “conspiracy to embezzle” and mail fraud, and interestingly, to an individual convicted of “conspiracy to defraud the United States by knowingly and without lawful authority producing false identification documents.”

Obama’s identification documents were found to be fraudulent by a five-year criminal investigation whose findings were recently affirmed by two highly-respected forensics analysts as divulged in a December 15 press conference.

Obama’s alleged “long-form” birth certificate was released by the White House on April 27, 2011 “with the intent to deceive,” according to the probe’s chief investigator, Mike Zullo.

A petition referenced on a website established to tell Lorance’s story references a whitehouse.gov petition asking for a pardon which appears to no longer be available to the public.”

Read more:

http://www.thepostemail.com/2017/01/26/trump-looking-at-pardon-request-for-sailor-and-several-others/

PETITION:

“Reinstate Lt. Col. Terry Lakin into the U.S. Army with full rank, pay, benefits and pension immediately.”

“The former Lt. Col. Terrence Lakin was a highly-decorated Army flight surgeon who questioned whether or not the orders he received from Obama were legitimate. Court-martialed, imprisoned, expelled from the Army and denied pay, pension and benefits, Terry was merely following his officer’s oath and constitutional duty. It is an outrage that this was allowed to happen. Obama refused to answer Terry’s letter and ended up producing a forged birth certificate. Terry who was a medical doctor is a valuable asset to the American military and the fact that his military chain of command and his congressional representatives allowed him to be court-martialed and run out of the army is an outrage for all Americans. This grave injustice needs to be addressed and corrected ASAP.”

SIGN HERE:

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/reinstate-lt-col-terry-lakin-us-army-full-rank-pay-benefits-and-pension-immediately

 

 

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AP specializes in Fake News and now wants to fight it?, Associated Press to implode?, Real news from Citizen Wells and citizen journalists exposes AP lies, For example: “State officials say there’s no doubt Barack Obama was born in Hawaii.” is a lie, Dr. Chiyome Fukino did not say that!

AP specializes in Fake News and now wants to fight it?, Associated Press to implode?, Real news from Citizen Wells and citizen journalists exposes AP lies, For example: “State officials say there’s no doubt Barack Obama was born in Hawaii.” is a lie, Dr. Chiyome Fukino did not say that!

“Why has Obama, since taking the White House, used Justice Department Attorneys, at taxpayer expense,  to avoid presenting a legitimate birth certificate and college records?”…Citizen Wells

“Moore said he’s seen no convincing evidence that Obama is a “natural born citizen” and a lot of evidence that suggests he is not.”…Judge Roy Moore interview by WND

“The past, he reflected, had not merely been altered, it had
actually been destroyed. For how could you establish, even
the most obvious fact when there existed no record outside
your own memory?”…George Orwell, “1984″

 

 

The Associated Press, AP, specializes in fake news, aka lies and now they want to fight it???

As soon as I saw this further evidence of fake news I was reminded of one of numerous AP articles that have been challenged by Citizen Wells and other internet journalists.

And Since Obama’s birth certificate was further challenged yesterday in a press conference by Mike Zullo and Sheriff Arpaio, it is fitting to present this example.

Here is the press release from Dr. Fukino from October 31, 2008.

HIhealthDept

Here is the text:

“For Immediate Release: October 31, 2008 08-93
STATEMENT BY DR. CHIYOME FUKINO
“There have been numerous requests for Sen. Barack Hussein Obama’s official birth certificate. State law (Hawai‘i Revised Statutes §338-18) prohibits the release of a certified birth certificate to persons who do not have a tangible interest in the vital record.
“Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.
“No state official, including Governor Linda Lingle, has ever instructed that this vital record be handled in a manner different from any other vital record in the possession of the State of Hawai‘i.””

Here is the AP article ( BTW, I had to retrieve it from the Wayback Machine )

State declares Obama birth certificate genuine

HONOLULU (AP) — State officials say there’s no doubt Barack Obama was born in Hawaii.

Health Department Director Dr. Chiyome Fukino said Friday she and the registrar of vital statistics, Alvin Onaka, have personally verified that the health department holds Obama’s original birth certificate.

Fukino says that no state official, including Republican Gov. Linda Lingle, ever instructed that Obama’s certificate be handled differently.

She says state law bars release of a certified birth certificate to anyone who does not have a tangible interest.

Some Obama critics claim he was not born in the US.

Earlier Friday, a southwest Ohio magistrate rejected a challenge to Obama’s citizenship. Judges in Seattle and Philadelphia recently dismissed similar suits.”

On November 1, 2008 Citizen Wells responded.

“Notice the heading and first sentence implying that the Hawaiian Health Department officials had stated that Obama was born in Hawaii.

Next notice that there are no quotes from either official that state that Obama was born in Hawaii. Where I come from that is not just Orwellian, but an outright lie.”

https://citizenwells.com/2008/11/01/obama-birth-certificate-ap-news-release-dr-chiyome-fukino-alvin-onaka-october-31-2008-health-department-director-ap-misleading-andy-martin-obama-camp-lies-factcheckorg-breaking-news/

On November 28, 2008 American Thinker adds.

“A. Associated Press reported about a statement of Hawaii Health Department Director Dr. Fukino, “State declares Obama birth certificate genuine.”

 

B. That October 31, 2008 statement says that Dr. Fukino “ha[s] personally seen and verified that the Hawai’i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.”  That statement does not, however, verify that Obama was born in Hawaii, and as explained above, under Hawaiian policies and procedures it is quite possible that Hawaii may have a birth record of a person not born in Hawaii.  Unlikely, but possible.

 

C.  The document that the Obama campaign released to the public is a certified copy of Obama’s birth record, which is not the best evidence since, even under Hawaiian law, the original vault copy is the better evidence.  Presumably, the vault record would show whether his birth was registered by a hospital in Hawaii.

 

D. Without accusing anyone of any wrongdoing, we nevertheless know that some people have gone to great lengths, even in violation of laws, rules and procedures, to confer the many benefits of United States citizenship on themselves and their children.  Given the structure of the Hawaiian law, the fact that a parent may register a birth, and the limited but inherent potential for human error within the system, it is possible that a parent of a child born out-of-state could have registered that birth to confer the benefits of U.S. citizenship, or simply to avoid bureaucratic hassles at that time or later in the child’s life. “

Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/11/why_the_barack_obama_birth_cer.html#ixzz4T12xdnTE

The statement made by the AP:

“State officials say there’s no doubt Barack Obama was born in Hawaii.”

Is a LIE!

The only question is that was it intentional or unintentional.

It definitely qualifies as fake news.

 

 

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