Chuck Todd is not stupid, Todd is (along with media and Democrat Party) biased and colluding, Zero proof of Obama US birth, Chuck Todd and NBC staff attack Trump for insulting president, “Birth certificate” on Whitehouse.gov even if real does not prove HI birth

Chuck Todd is not stupid, Todd is (along with media and Democrat Party) biased and colluding, Zero proof of Obama US birth, Chuck Todd and NBC staff attack Trump for insulting president, “Birth certificate” on Whitehouse.gov even if real does not prove HI birth

“Why has Obama, since taking the White House, used Justice Department Attorneys, at taxpayer expense,  to avoid presenting a legitimate birth certificate and college records?”…Citizen Wells

“Moore said he’s seen no convincing evidence that Obama is a “natural born citizen” and a lot of evidence that suggests he is not.”…Judge Roy Moore interview by WND

“When asked where I believe Obama was born I answer, I don’t know. There is zero proof he was born in Hawaii. The only evidence of his birth location that we have is much circumstantial evidence and that points to Kenya.”…Citizen Wells

 

I switched channels between 5 networks election night and caught Chuck Todd lying again about Donald Trump insulting Obama regarding his birth certificate.

I vowed to write another article outing him.

I had already vowed to further expose the chicanery and collusion between the mainstream media and Democrat Party.

Last night I heard someone on Public Radio refer to challenges of Obama’ s eligibility as false rumors.

Don’t tread on me!

Once again, and with no disrespect to those explaining that to be a natural born citizen and eligible for the presidency, one must have 2 American parents (I agree with them), I will only address the alleged birth certificate as proof of US birth.

And also, the term citizen has been used interchangeably with natural born citizen. It is not the same thing.

WhiteHouseGovBC

The image placed on Whitehouse.gov is not the kind most of us are used to seeing. Instead of an embossed stamp and certification that this is an official copy, this image has the following at the bottom:

WhiteHouseGovAbstractVerbage

The phrase “or abstract” disqualifies this as proof positive of being an image of an original.

Abstract: “The term abstract is subject to different meanings, but in a legal sense, it refers to an abbreviated history of an official record.””

If the image was a “true copy” it would look like the following from the same year Obama was born.

HawaiiNordyke1961BCexample

Note “true and correct copy of the original record” and the embossing at the bottom.

This resembles what I have a copy of proving my birth in NC. A certified copy of my original birth certificate. Not an abstract.

Why is this important?

You do not have to be born in Hawaii to obtain what they call a birth certificate, an abstract.

From Western Journalism June 10, 2009.

“I think that I now understand the legal background to the question of where Obama was born.

Let’s begin with the statement that Dr. Chiyome Fukino, the Director of the Hawaii Department of Health released on October 31, 2008. The television and print media used this statement as a reason to prevent and treat with contempt any investigation into whether Barack Obama was not born in Hawaii. But the language of the statement was so carefully hedged and guarded that it should have had the opposite effect.

“There have been numerous requests for Sen. Barack Hussein Obama’s official birth certificate. State law (Hawai‘i Revised Statutes §338-18) prohibits the release of a certified birth certificate to persons who do not have a tangible interest in the vital record. Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.”

It is understandable that after such an apparently definitive statement most news outlets, whether conservative or liberal, would accept this as sufficient grounds to relegate the controversy to the status of a fringe phenomenon. Unless they happened to take the trouble to look into the “state policies and procedures” as laid down by the relevant statutes. If they had done so, they would have seen that Dr. Fukino’s press release was carefully hedged and “lawyered” and practically worthless. But the media in general should not be faulted. The statement seems to roll out with such bureaucratic certainty and final authority. I believed it to be significant until a Honolulu attorney mailed me the relevant statutes. I was so surprised that I laughed out loud.

Here is a summary of Hawaii’s “state policies and procedures” in 1961.

In the State of Hawaii, back in 1961, there were four different ways to get an “original birth certificate” on record. They varied greatly in their reliability as evidence. For convenience, I’ll call them BC1, BC2, BC3, and BC4.

BC1. If the birth was attended by a physician or mid wife, the attending medical professional was required to certify to the Department of Health the facts of the birth date, location, parents’ identities and other information. (See Section 57-8 & 9 of the Territorial Public Health Statistics Act in the 1955 Revised Laws of Hawaii which was in effect in 1961).

BC2. In 1961, if a person was born in Hawaii but not attended by a physician or midwife, then all that was required was that one of the parents send in a birth certificate to be filed. The birth certificate could be filed by mail. There appears to have been no requirement for the parent to actually physically appear before “the local registrar of the district.” It would have been very easy for a relative to forge an absent parent’s signature to a form and mail it in. In addition, if a claim was made that “neither parent of the newborn child whose birth is unattended as above provided is able to prepare a birth certificate, the local registrar shall secure the necessary information from any person having knowledge of the birth and prepare and file the certificate.” (Section 57-8&9) I asked the Dept of Health what they currently ask for (in 2008) to back up a parent’s claim that a child was born in Hawaii. I was told that all they required was a proof of residence in Hawaii (e.g. a driver’s license [We know from interviews with her friends on Mercer Island in Washington State that Ann Dunham had acquired a driver’s license by the summer of 1961 at the age of 17] or telephone bill) and pre-natal (statement or report that a woman was pregnant) and post-natal (statement or report that a new-born baby has been examined) certification by a physician. On further enquiry, the employee that I spoke to informed me that the pre-natal and post-natal certifications had probably not been in force in the ‘60s. Even if they had been, there is and was no requirement for a physician or midwife to witness, state or report that the baby was born in Hawaii.

BC3. In 1961, if a person was born in Hawaii but not attended by a physician or midwife, then, up to the first birthday of the child, a “Delayed Certificate” could be filed, which required that “a summary statement of the evidence submitted in support of the acceptance for delayed filing or the alteration [of a file] shall be endorsed on the certificates”, which “evidence shall be kept in a special permanent file.” The statute provided that “the probative value of a ‘delayed’ or ‘altered’ certificate shall be determined by the judicial or administrative body or official before whom the certificate is offered as evidence.” (See Section 57- 9, 18, 19 & 20 of the Territorial Public Health Statistics Act in the 1955 Revised Laws of Hawaii which was in effect in 1961).”

[In other words, this form of vault birth certificate, the Delayed Certificate, required no more than a statement before a government bureaucrat by one of the parents or (the law does not seem to me clear on this) one of Barack Obama’s grandparents. If the latter is true, Ann Dunham did not have to be present for this statement or even in the country.]

BC4. If a child is born in Hawaii, for whom no physician or mid wife filed a certificate of live birth, and for whom no Delayed Certificate was filed before the first birthday, then a Certificate of Hawaiian Birth could be issued upon testimony of an adult (including the subject person [i.e. the birth child as an adult]) if the Office of the Lieutenant Governor was satisfied that a person was born in Hawaii, provided that the person had attained the age of one year. (See Section 57-40 of the Territorial Public Health Statistics Act in the 1955 Revised Laws of Hawaii which was in effect in 1961.) In 1955 the “secretary of the Territory” was in charge of this procedure. In 1960 it was transferred to the Office of the Lieutenant Governor (“the lieutenant governor, or his secretary, or such other person as he may designate or appoint from his office” §338-41 [in 1961]).

In 1982, the vital records law was amended to create a fifth kind of “original birth certificate”. Under Act 182 H.B. NO. 3016-82, “Upon application of an adult or the legal parents of a minor child, the director of health shall issue a birth certificate for such adult or minor, provided that the proof has been submitted to the director of health that the legal parents of such individual while living without the Territory or State of Hawaii had declared the Territory or State of Hawaii as their legal residence for at least one year immediately preceding the birth or adoption of such child.” In this way “state policies and procedures” accommodate even “children born out of State” (this is the actual language of Act 182) with an “original birth certificate on record.” So it is even possible that the birth certificate referred to by Dr Fukino is of the kind specified in Act 182. This possibility cannot be dismissed because such a certificate certainly satisfies Dr Fukino’s statement that “I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.” If this is the case, Dr Fukino would have perpetrated so unusually disgusting a deception that I find it practically incredible (and I greatly doubt that anyone could be that shameless). On the other hand, if the original birth certificate is of types 2, 3, or 4, Dr Fukino’s statement would be only somewhat less deceptive and verbally tricky. I only bring up this possibility to show how cleverly hedged and “lawyered” and basically worthless Dr Fukino’s statement is.

Sections 57-8, 9, 18, 19, 20 & 40 of the Territorial Public Health Statistics Act explain why Barack Obama has refused to release the original vault birth certificate. If the original certificate were the standard BC1 type of birth certificate, he would have allowed its release and brought the controversy to a quick end. But if the original certificate is of the other kinds, then Obama would have a very good reason not to release the vault birth certificate. For if he did, then the tape recording of Obama’s Kenyan grandmother asserting that she was present at his birth in Kenya becomes far more important. As does the Kenyan ambassador’s assertion that Barack Obama was born in Kenya, as well as the sealing of all government and hospital records relevant to Obama by the Kenyan government. And the fact that though there are many witnesses to Ann Dunham’s presence on Oahu from Sept 1960 to Feb 1961, there are no witnesses to her being on Oahu from March 1961 to August 1962 when she returned from Seattle and the University of Washington. No Hawaiian physicians, nurses, or midwives have come forward with any recollection of Barack Obama’s birth.

The fact that Obama refuses to release the vault birth certificate that would instantly clear up this matter almost certainly indicates that the vault birth certificate is probably a BC2 or possibly a BC3.”

Clearing the Smoke on Obama’s Eligibility: An Intelligence Investigator’s June 10 Report

I defy Chuck Todd or anyone else to repudiate what is written above.

There is zero proof that Obama was born in the US.

Period!!!

 

 

More here:

https://citizenwells.com/

http://citizenwells.net/

 

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40 responses to “Chuck Todd is not stupid, Todd is (along with media and Democrat Party) biased and colluding, Zero proof of Obama US birth, Chuck Todd and NBC staff attack Trump for insulting president, “Birth certificate” on Whitehouse.gov even if real does not prove HI birth

  1. From:Chuck.Todd@nbcuni.com
    To: MirandaL@dnc.org
    Date: 2016-05-18 23:15
    Subject: Re: Following up…

    https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/9394

  2. “Wikileaks Podesta hack reveals CNBC’s John Harwood was a hack for Dems”

    http://legalinsurrection.com/2016/10/wikileaks-podesta-hack-reveals-cnbcs-john-harwood-was-a-hack-for-dems/

  3. “From the debate:

    “HOLT: Mr. Trump, for five years, you perpetuated a false claim that the nation’s first black president was not a natural-born citizen. You questioned his legitimacy. In the last couple of weeks, you acknowledged what most Americans have accepted for years: The president was born in the United States. Can you tell us what took you so long?

    TRUMP: I’ll tell you very — well, just very simple to say. Sidney Blumenthal works for the campaign and close — very close friend of Secretary Clinton. And her campaign manager, Patti Doyle, went to — during the campaign, her campaign against President Obama, fought very hard. And you can go look it up, and you can check it out. TRUMP: And if you look at CNN this past week, Patti Solis Doyle was on Wolf Blitzer saying that this happened. Blumenthal sent McClatchy, highly respected reporter at McClatchy, to Kenya to find out about it. They were pressing it very hard. She failed to get the birth certificate.

    When I got involved, I didn’t fail. I got him to give the birth certificate. So I’m satisfied with it. And I’ll tell you why I’m satisfied with it.”

    “HOLT: I will let you respond. It’s important. But I just want to get the answer here. The birth certificate was produced in 2011. You’ve continued to tell the story and question the president’s legitimacy in 2012, ’13, ’14, ’15…”

    https://citizenwells.com/2016/09/27/lester-holt-perpetuates-media-lie-about-birthers-donald-trump-hillary-clinton-holt-ignorant-biased-and-media-schill-no-proof-obama-natural-born-citizen-obama-has-not-provided-certified-copy-of-orig/

  4. Thank you CW for all you do. Hopefully President Trump will pursue the issue of Barry’s identity theft scam. This criminal usurpation of the White House for eight years must not go unaddressed. President Trump’s administration should have more access to Barry’s records and should be able to get to the bottom of this. Certainly, with the DOJ and FBI, he has the resources to investigate and prosecute.

    I also hope President Trump may be able to do something about getting a clear and unambiguous ruling from the US Supreme Court on the meaning of “natural born Citizen”. Perhaps he needs to wait until a few of the more liberal justices have retired and been replaced. I’m not sure how President Trump can find the opportunity to do this, but a creative mind should be able to find a way.

    President Trump. Doesn’t that sound nice?

  5. squirejacob.
    Thanks & bingo!

  6. CW……….
    ……….simple logic tells me that if there had been a genuine Hawaii BC there would have been no need for identity theft, and/or manipulation…………and it is more than clear that both were done to provide phony identification. Human nature is such that you don’t do it if it is UNNECESSARY.
    I personally believe that the CERTIFIED COPY of the BC obtained by Lucas Smith IS IN FACT A GENUINE COPY of Soetoro’s original BC. I have reason to believe him. Perhaps it is time to contact the lady lawyer in Northern California. After Trump is sworn in and has appointed the replacement for the SCOTUS, then the case can be put before the SCOTUS…………but the illegal appointments which were made by Soetoro need to FIRST be legally barred from any involvement in the outcome.(Kagan, and Sotomayer) were both appointed to the SCOTUS by an ILLEGAL POTUS. Therefore neither can legally sit on the SCOTUS bench.

  7. Justice Dept & SCOTUS enema.

  8. CW……….
    ………….Lucas Smith has NO REASON to lie about having obtained a copy of the Soetoro BC. He has signed a document of certification where under penalty of law he could be prosecuted if the document is found to be INVALID. As I stated I believe the Kenyan document is legally valid. Time will TELL.

  9. …………and we have a aging justice who can barely stay awake during critical adjudication. How the hell can she make an intelligent ruling if she SLEPT THROUGH discovery. Hopefully she will retire soon!

  10. Mike Zullo on PNN RADIO with OBAMA FRAUD INVESTIGATION! LATEST INFO! 11/10/16

  11. Hi Bob,

    The release before January. Arpaio is no longer Sheriff; hr can cut the whole thing loose.

    I’m wondering about the timing; Zullo said the release is due before January. Is it wise to do this before Inauguration Day while Obama is still POTUS? What do you think? CW?

    Also concerned that Soros will somehow influence (read that as ‘buy’) members of the Electoral College to flip their vote to Cankles. Is it possible she could still be installed? I’m thinking that they’ll do *anything* to get her in, even though she lost.

  12. SueK | November 11, 2016 at 11:01 pm |

    Hi Bob,

    The release before January. Arpaio is no longer Sheriff; hr can cut the whole thing loose.

    I’m wondering about the timing; Zullo said the release is due before January. Is it wise to do this before Inauguration Day while Obama is still POTUS? What do you think? CW?

    Also concerned that Soros will somehow influence (read that as ‘buy’) members of the Electoral College to flip their vote to Cankles. Is it possible she could still be installed? I’m thinking that they’ll do *anything* to get her in, even though she lost.
    *************

    Hi SueK,
    Maybe with Trump, and an honest DOJ, and FBI, we will make progress on the “ID the usurper” project. To ignore their evidence is Misprision of Felony, and it is a felony. This matter cannot be swept under the rug, except by another corrupt system.

    People I have been telling about this for 8 years think I’m crazy, and I should drop it, I tell them, there’s no statute of limitations on treason.

    Drain the swamp!

    Soros, Hilliary, the usurper, and their ilk, should all be arrested! Even the media is involved in the RICO Regime’s takeover of America!

    This group is the RICO Regime hierarchy.

    Maybe Trump will clean it up for the sake of the world, in the mean time we here at Citizen Wells will continue to educate those who find this information to hard to believe, and call us crazy.

  13. Viewing his college records could clear things up.
    Did he get aid as a foreign student?

  14. “In this gentleman’s world view, it was not black versus white, rich versus poor, feminism versus patriarchy, illegal versus citizen; rather, it was those who produce nothing believing themselves entitled, without appreciation, to the goods produced by others versus those who actually produce.”

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-11/visit-trumps-america

  15. “In an article written for the feminist blog Lenny Letter, entitled “Don’t Agonize, Organize,” Lena Dunham chronicles her complete devastation on election night after she realized that “something had gone horribly wrong”. After repeatedly referring to Trump supporters as “homophobes, xenophobes” and various other “phobes” throughout the campaign cycle, we suspect many will find the details of her misery quite glorious.”

    “At home I got in the shower and began to cry even harder. My boyfriend, who had already wept, watched me as I mumbled incoherently, clutching myself. “It wasn’t supposed to go this way. It was supposed to be her job. She worked her whole life for the job. It’s her job.””

    “Please help buy Lena Dunham a one way ticket to Vancouver Canada.

    Lena stated, if Donald Trump won the election, she would leave the USA, and move to Canada:

    Lena Dunham told Andy Cohen at the Matrix Awards that “I know a lot of people have been threatening to do this, but I really will. I know a lovely place in Vancouver.”

    Once $2000 is collected, a 1 way ticket to Canada will be purchased, and sent to Lena’s publicist. Any additional, or excess, funds will be donated to Autism Speaks.
    Help spread the word!”

    “Meanwhile, Martin Shkreli also seems to have made travel arrangements for Dunham.

    Follow
    Martin Shkreli ✔ @MartinShkreli
    I have a Gulfstream V waiting for you to leave the US. I assume you eat for the equivalent of 5. A chef will be on board. @lenadunham
    12:35 PM – 11 Nov 2016 · Manhattan, NY
    1,893 1,893 Retweets 4,289 4,289 likes

    Aren’t these folks so nice? We truly hope that Lena can use this outpouring of generosity from the American people to help cope with her misery over the election.”

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-11/lena-dunham-wants-you-know-she-was-miserable-election-night

    Hillary worked her whole life all right.
    She lied, cheated, abused believed she was entitled to the office.
    I can’t afford to send all of the nutjobs (way too many) to Canada (and besides I don’t hate Canada) but I will encourage them to leave.

  16. So now with a new President …perhaps the American people will finally get to know the background of this Usurper who has held this nation hostage for the past 8 years with his lawlessness and corruption….the truth will come out and those people who fawned over him as the first black president, will be greatly surprised…..

    Obama aka barry Soetoro (an Indonesian name) was no more qualified to be our president than was Mormaer Quadaffi of Libya was ….. but the ignorant people, supported by the corrupt press allowed this to happen….

    Our Constitution was violated and became seriously endangered of becoming worthless.

    In fact, I seriously doubt Obama was even a citizen when he took office as president…There has been NO EVIDENCE he was….

    the truth will be known…..

  17. oldsoldier80……..
    ………..the weight of the ACCUMULATED, and KNOWN EVIDENCE thus far tells the Soetoro story for the most part, but there are some UNKNOWNS, and some vague spots in the story which must become KNOWN VALUES, before we can take positive action. Yet I have my doubts that ANYTHING will EVER be done to make any such correction. Pathetically very few people even have the slightest idea as to the exact Constitutional requirements for POTUS, and even if they did they would simply rationalize it all today by saying “Oh well he will soon be out of office, so it really doesn’t matter,……… BLAH, BLAH. This attitude tells me that we have a far more serious problem……….which namely is the more than abundant imbeciles who walk among us. It is these morons who are helping to slowly destroy America, simply because of their ignorance compounded by their I COULDN’T CARE LESS attitude…….. AFTER THE FACT they will suddenly wake up, and begin screaming their expletives at others for having allowed this to happen………..when in reality was a product their OWN STUPIDITY,AND MAKING. “YOU REAP WHAT YOU SOW”. To bring America back from where it now teeters on the brink of disaster, will require many lifetimes, and will NOT HAPPEN overnight. THE HEARTS,MINDS ,AND SOULS OF AMERICANS MUST CHANGE BEFORE THERE WILL BE ANY SIGNIFICANT CHANGE IN AMERICA’S FUTURE.

  18. oldsoldier80……..
    ……….I personally think that the hand of GOD directed America’s largest voting block on election night……….there is no other reasonable explanation. I believe that our Lord did indeed RETURN…………and NOW THE LIBERAL HEADS ARE IMPLODING. Whatever Donald Trump turns out to be, it is our responsibility to see to it that he takes the right ,and otherwise APPROPRIATE DIRECTION with his administration. He is the first step………the second step is the PEOPLE.

  19. ……..AND NOW…….
    ……………Mzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. Ella Masar has stated she will not return to America until Trump either steps down or he is defeated in 2020. Mzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. Masar needs to take the TEST FOR IMPORTANCE. She should put her finger in a bowl of water then remove it and then take special notice of the remaining hole in the water. I say to her ” she can do more for America by staying away for the rest of her life…………we don’t need POS like her…………..besides WHO EVEN GIVES A DAMN ABOUT THAT LOONEY POS ANYWAY. SHE IS A SNOTNOSE WHO NEEDS TO BE ADMINISTERED A LITTLE WOODSHED RE ORIENTATION, FROM A BOARD OF EDUCATION. Mzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. Masar obviously thinks she is SOOOOOOOO IMPORRRRRRTANT. SHE IS A ZERO.

  20. UNFORTUNATELY FOR AMERICA……….
    ………….THERE IS AN OVER ABUNDANCE OF CHILD PRODIGIES, WHO EXCELL AT TWISTING WORDS, BUT THEY HAVEN’T THE SLIGHTEST IDEA WHAT THEY ARE TRYING TO SAY. THE ONLY THING SUCH A CHILD DOES WELL IS PICK HIS/HER NOSE, AND GIVE OFF AN OFFENSIVE ODOR.

  21. citizenwells | November 12, 2016 at 7:09 am |

    Viewing his college records could clear things up.
    Did he get aid as a foreign student?
    **********

    I wonder if the usurper’s goons have been busy eradicating records for the usurper during the last 8 years, in anticipation of this day. If those college records are still there, it’s game over.

    I would think an inquiry by the Trump Attorney General into the birth records of the usurper, at the Hawaii Dept of Health, would also bear fruit.

  22. bob strauss | November 12, 2016 at 4:48 pm |

    I wonder if the usurper’s goons have been busy eradicating records for the usurper during the last 8 years, in anticipation of this day. If those college records are still there, it’s game over.

    I would think an inquiry by the Trump Attorney General into the birth records of the usurper, at the Hawaii Dept of Health, would also bear fruit.

    **********

    They don’t just eradicate the records. They change them and hope nobody will spot the tampering.

  23. Bob Strauss …………
    ……….Occidental may soon be more willing to share records……….particularly if the school found Trump on their rear ends. It has been shown in the past that he used the name Barry Soetoro, and was provided funds from the US government as a foreign student. There was a lady who was an employee of the student loan organisation who came forth and stated on the internet that the US government had paid Soetoro, the money…………but she was unable to provide any documentation. This was in either 2009, or 2010. If she could be located and prevailed upon to sign an affidavit of the existence of documentation, and where it can be found it would probably bring some truth to what, and WHO the bastard really is.

  24. squirejacob | November 12, 2016 at 8:22 pm |

    They don’t just eradicate the records. They change them and hope nobody will spot the tampering.

    ******************
    squirejacob ,
    Early on in this usurpation, Leo Donofrio caught Justia changing laws in the “law books” in order to change the meaning. These crooks that would steal our country are already rewriting our laws, and history.

    I will try to provide a link.

    https://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/?s=justia+changing

  25. squirejacob
    This is part of what I was talking about.

    *******************

    JUSTIA.COM SURGICALLY REMOVED “MINOR v HAPPERSETT” FROM 25 SUPREME COURT OPINIONS IN RUN UP TO ’08 ELECTION.

    https://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/2011/10/20/justia-com-surgically-removed-minor-v-happersett-from-25-supreme-court-opinions-in-run-up-to-08-election/

  26. “The past, he reflected, had not merely been altered, it had
    actually been destroyed. For how could you establish, even
    the most obvious fact when there existed no record outside
    your own memory?”…George Orwell, “1984″

  27. “And if all others accepted the lie which the Party imposed
    –if all records told the same tale–then the lie passed into
    history and became truth. “Who controls the past,” ran the
    Party slogan, “controls the future: who controls the present
    controls the past.”…George Orwell, “1984″

  28. “TRUMP MAKES HISTORY! Takes Michigan – Gains 306 Electoral Votes to Win Historic Race”

    “This is the first time that a Republican won Michigan in the Presidential election since 1988. Trump did this by flipping 12 counties to the Republican side.

    Neither Trump nor Clinton received a majority of votes overall but both surpassed 60 million.

    Trump crushed Clinton in state totals with 30 wins to her 20 as well as in EC votes achieving 57% to her 43%.”

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/11/trump-makes-history-takes-michigan-gains-306-electoral-votes-historic-win/

  29. CW………
    …………..maybe if we are lucky………the Trump administration will go after those at Justia who were behind the attempts to alter our REFERENCE LAW material. Of course anybody with even a pea sized brain would look at the ORIGINAL COMPOSITION rather than electronically stored information, which would, and probably did happen which is why Donofrio was able to see that the law had been altered. So it was just one more attempt by some LIBERAL NITWIT to change something which has thousands of copies. You can change one but there are still many thousands which reflect the truth. Probability says that anyone attempting to alter a law will be quickly discovered. In the case of Justia I pray that the individual responsible will be brought to justice soon.

  30. CitizenWells,
    You and Anonymous are correct. It’s NOT over! We need to get to the truth if we are going to move ahead as a free people. Forces of evil are still upon us, and the truth is the starting step to defeat them.

  31. CW………
    ………….and now……..a number of the “not so liberal” crowd are turning upon their own party. I believe that one day soon the remainder of the original GANG OF 14 who originally hijacked the democratic party will find themselves as OUTCASTS. If the DEMOCRATIC PARTY is to survive it will need to throw off the PROGRESSIVES………..because their biggest problems have their roots with the PROGRESSIVES. The PROGRESSIVES are the OVEREDUCATED WORDSMITHS, who try to make everyone believe that because they hold multiple doctorates, and many degrees makes them SUPERIOR to everyone else……..which is a fantasy inside of their own minds………..and in REALITY COMPLETE NUMBSKULLS. Today as I look around be I am seeing a severely shattered DEMOCRATIC PARTY, and many of it’s members at various stages of mental IMPLOSION. Such people cannot bear seeing the results of their OWN sort of bullshi#……..because they fancy themselves as being SOOOOOOO SUPERRRRRIOR to all others. Their FANTASY BUBBLE has BURST………….and REALITY is REIGNING! har har I just love watching their heads implode!

  32. Pete……..
    Good morning!
    ……….you are right. IT AIN’T OVER now, and it won’t be over until the bastard is exposed for what he really is………….but it won’t be easy by any stretch of the imagination. Soetoro has a lot to answer for and it will require the excavation of a mountain of evidence. The trick will then be to find a Federal judge who has the gonads to allow discovery. As I have previously posted there are 127 Federal judges whose immediate boss was Soetoro………but soon it will be Donald Trump. The judges who disallowed any previous action against the bastard were , and are complicit in TREASON, and should be removed from the bench ,then prosecuted, and imprisoned. In addition there is a DIRE NEED TO CLEAN OUT THE DOJ ITSELF.

  33. GOOD MORNING…….or is IT?

    BREAKING: Trump says he will ‘immediately’ deport two to three million illegal immigrants

    President-elect Donald Trump has said that he plans to deport two to three million undocumented immigrants immediately – and that he will be building his wall along the US-Mexico border.

    In an interview with CBS’s 60 Minutes that airs on Sunday – his first since winning the election – Trump insisted that he will build the wall that was a vital part of his presidential campaign.
    —————————————————————————————-
    ‘What we are going to do is get the people that are criminal and have criminal records, gang members, drug dealers, where a lot of these people, probably two million, it could be even three million, we are getting them out of our country or we are going to incarcerate,’ Trump said.
    ——————————————————————————————
    ‘But we’re getting them out of our country, they’re here illegally.’

    Read more:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3932048/Trump-says-immediately-deport-two-three-million-illegal-immigrants-criminal-records-insists-build-wall.html#ixzz4PuEmhW4G

  34. Here’s just how Red the country has turned since Barack Obama become president in 2008, with some visuals courtesy of the Washington Post (who is also freaking out, no doubt).

    So just how bad is it? “Since 2008, by our estimates, the [Democrat] party has shed 870 legislators and leaders at the state and federal levels — and that estimate may be on the low side.

    Quite possibly the best news you’ve heard since Tuesday… – Allen B. West

    http://www.allenbwest.com/analytical-economist/quite-possibly-best-news-youve-heard-since-tuesday

  35. hapnHal | November 13, 2016 at 11:51 am |

    GOOD MORNING…….or is IT?

    *********

    hapnHal,
    Sounds like a good morning, and a good start, to me.

    What country needs 3 million criminal illegal aliens?

  36. bob strauss….

    Thanks for reply. I have a feeling it’s going to get ugly and very soon.
    What and how are we going to deport these criminal illegals?
    Do you think Mexico wants them back? Guess we could put these criminal illegals to work building a wall and pay them with confiscated drug money. If California succeeded from the union and they wouldn’t need to build a wall or would they?

  37. hapnHal | November 13, 2016 at 3:04 pm |

    bob strauss….

    Thanks for reply. I have a feeling it’s going to get ugly and very soon.
    What and how are we going to deport these criminal illegals?
    Do you think Mexico wants them back? Guess we could put these criminal illegals to work building a wall and pay them with confiscated drug money. If California succeeded from the union and they wouldn’t need to build a wall or would they?
    ************

    hapnHal,
    I think many of the criminal illegal aliens may run for the border on their own.

    Many, if not all have criminal records, police have files on all of them, many are on parole, many are MS 13 gang members.

    ICE has been handcuffed by the usurper, turn them loose with the full backing of the white house and let them do their job, and the rats will scurry!

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