2008 US Presidential Election, Electoral College, Electors, US Constitution, Federal Election Law, State Election Laws, State officers, State Election Officials, Judges, US Supreme Court Justices, Democratic Disaster, Questions and answers

“Our Constitution is in actual operation; everything appears to promise
that it will last; but nothing in this world is certain but death and
taxes.”     Benjamin Franklin

Presidential Election

Electoral College Questions and Answers

Q: What is the Electoral College?:

A: The Electoral College was established by the founding fathers
as a compromise between election of the president by Congress and
election by popular vote. The people of the United States vote for
the electors who then vote for the President. Read more

Q: Frequently asked questions:

A: Read more here

Q: Why did the Founding Fathers create the Electoral College?:

A:  The Founding Father’s intent

Here is a quote by Alexander Hamilton who, like many of the founding
fathers, was “afraid a tyrant could manipulate public opinion and come
to power.” Hamilton wrote in the Federalist Papers:

“It was equally desirable, that the immediate election should be made
by men most capable of analyzing the qualities adapted to the station,
and acting under circumstances favorable to deliberation, and to a
judicious combination of all the reasons and inducements which were
proper to govern their choice. A small number of persons, selected by
their fellow-citizens from the general mass, will be most likely to
possess the information and discernment requisite to such complicated
investigations. It was also peculiarly desirable to afford as little
opportunity as possible to tumult and disorder. This evil was not least
to be dreaded in the election of a magistrate, who was to have so
important an agency in the administration of the government as the
President of the United States. But the precautions which have been so
happily concerted in the system under consideration, promise an
effectual security against this mischief.”

Q: What are the state laws governing Electors?:

A: List of states and restrictions on Electors

Q: What are so called “Faithless Electors”?:

A: “The Supreme Court has held that the Constitution does not require
that electors be completely free to act as they choose and therefore,
political parties may extract pledges from electors to vote for the
parties’ nominees. Some State laws provide that so-called “faithless
electors” may be subject to fines or may be disqualified for casting
an invalid vote and be replaced by a substitute elector. The Supreme
Court has not specifically ruled on the question of whether pledges
and penalties for failure to vote as pledged may be enforced under
the Constitution. No elector has ever been prosecuted for failing to
vote as pledged.” Read more here

The US Supreme Court Obviously has not given Electors the option to
violate the US Constitution. Therefore, obviously, if the presidential
candidate is qualified, party pledges and state laws are permissable.

Q: What must an Elector be aware of when voting for a presidential candidate?:

 A: The following are important considerations when casting a vote. Voting
as instructed by a political party, another person, or a state law in
conflict with the US Constitution or Federal Election Laws is a serious
matter. Those not voting in accordance with higher laws are subject to
prosecution and may be guilty of “High Crimes and Misdemeanors.”
High Crimes and Misdemeanors


“The following provisions of law governing Presidential Elections are contained in Chapter 1 of Title 3, United States Code (62 Stat. 672, as amended):”

“§ 8.   The electors shall vote for President and Vice President, respectively, in the manner directed by the Constitution.”

Are Electors required to vote according to Popular Vote?

“There is no Constitutional provision or Federal law that requires
electors to vote according to the results of the popular vote in
their States. Some States, however, require electors to cast their
votes according to the popular vote. These pledges fall into two
categories—electors bound by State law and those bound by pledges
to political parties.”   (From US National Archives)

So called “Faithless Electors”

“It turns out there is no federal law that requires an elector to
vote according to their pledge (to their respective party). And so,
more than a few electors have cast their votes without following the
popular vote or their party. These electors are called “faithless

In response to these faithless electors’ actions, several states
have created laws to enforce an elector’s pledge to his or her party
vote or the popular vote. Some states even go the extra step to
assess a misdemeanor charge and a fine to such actions. For example,
the state of North Carolina charges a fine of $10,000 to faithless

It’s important to note, that although these states have created these
laws, a large number of scholars believe that such state-level laws
hold no true bearing and would not survive constitutional challenge.”
Read more here

State Law Example: Pennsylvania

Ҥ 3192. Meeting of electors; duties.
The electors chosen, as aforesaid, shall assemble at the seat
of government of this Commonwealth, at 12 o’clock noon of the
day which is, or may be, directed by the Congress of the United
States, and shall then and there perform the duties enjoined upon
them by the Constitution and laws of the United States

“The mysteries of the Electoral College has enabled Pennsylvania
to play an unusually major role in determining who is President.
In 1796, Thomas Jefferson defeated John Adams in Pennsylvania’s
popular election by only 62 votes, but the Pennsylvania electors
gave Jefferson 14 votes and Adams 1, though Adams did win the
Electoral vote, 71 to 68.” Read more here

Electors helped save the Union

1860 election: 4 electors in New Jersey, pledged for Stephen Douglas,
voted for Republican candidate Abraham Lincoln.

Q: What happens after the Electoral College vote?:

A: Electoral College procedures

Q: What is the significance of your vote?:

A: The US Constitution clearly gives the states the power
and duties associated with electing a qualified president.
It is also clear that the states have not performed their
duties to ensure that the Electoral College votes will be
for a Qualified candidate. The Electors have a constitutional
duty to perform that supersedes any party contract or state
law. Each day that passes without verification of eligibility
of any candidate being voted for by Electors, brings us closer
to a constitutional crisis. There are pending court cases before
the US Supreme Court and state courts. Congress will meet in
January to count and certify votes and there will certainly be
challenges in Congress. If Congress or the courts shall fail to
do their duty, a Supreme Court Justice will be faced with a
decision to uphold the Constitution. The crisis will increase
in intensity.

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Disclaimer: The views expressed in this article are those of the
Citizen Wells blog. Every effort has been made to ensure the
accuracy of the content. Readers are encouraged to visit source
material such as the US Constitution, Federal Election law and
state laws.


33 responses to “2008 US Presidential Election, Electoral College, Electors, US Constitution, Federal Election Law, State Election Laws, State officers, State Election Officials, Judges, US Supreme Court Justices, Democratic Disaster, Questions and answers

  1. Video Message to Our Electors:

  2. The consequences of the Supreme Court declining to address the US Constitution’s “natural born citizen” clause on the morning of Monday 12/15/08 — thereafter enabling the College of Electors to transform the crisis from “law” to “political and Congressional”, leading to the ‘inauguration’ of Mr. Obama, are nothing less than catastrophic. Lawsuits by members of the military challenging his ‘commander in chief’ status are INEVITABLE. And a military takeover to oust the “usurper” may be inevitable as well. Where is the media? This is no “tin foil hat” joke.

  3. CW as far as I can see most electors see us the people paranoid nuts and they get mad when anyone questions the one and some have siad that they looked up to see obamas BC what proof are these electors looking at why only them can see this proof they say settles it for them if these electors can see proof then they spose to show the americans I thought they say we are just annoyances that really piss me off CW i hope more than ever that the courts pull the curtains down ON this SOB soon I can’t believe the gull of what has happend to our country. well anyhow thanks for bringing light to alot of the truth it seems this is the last place to get any news anymore sinceraly marko.

  4. afraid a tyrant could manipulate public opinion and come
    to power.”
    This alone is Obama motto.
    They need to stop this now before thing get out of hand.

  5. Ah that’s it… I’ve read enough bullshit for a lifetime. I think we should go to war and exterminate the lot of you. Put you out of your misery/

  6. I wouldn’t place much hope in the Electors doing their duty by the Law. Most will only see what they want and there’s not enough of a threat of punishment to make them take it seriously. If the courts don’t take action then our last chance is for one member of the House and one from the Senate to agree to challenge the Vote in congress and force the truth to the surface. So we need to get in touch with friendly congressmen and convince them to demand that final bit of proof.

  7. I was asked to write the article.
    I have not given up hope on the Electors, however, I agree,
    a few statesmen from the House and Senate are a good idea.

  8. Has anybodt heard of the rumour that Obamas lawyers filed a suit to question if the Natural Born Citizen clause.

    It was only a comment on a blog, but You never know.

    Quote from “Anonymus” :
    Obama’s lawyers Kirkland and Ellis have submitted a lawsuit saying the Natural Bron Citizen is no legal to today life.

    Found at:

  9. I have written to and I am encouraging each and every one of you to write to 10 Republican Senators and 10 Republican Representatives. Just write one brief, clear, concise, factual letter and mail it to all 20 of them.

    It’s easy to find their addresses by googling something like this:
    NJ Senator contact

    If you don’t think one person can make a difference, just think of the utility worker who found little Caylee Anthony’s bones Friday. Don’t hesitate, start writing. This is too important to leave to Berg, Donofrio, etc.

  10. By the way, CitizenWells, your blog is always a joy to read. Thanks for taking the time to keep it up every day.

  11. Thanks Janet.

  12. Berlin….I believe that was a law article submitted in 2006….not a lawsuit. Interesting timing since that was when O full of crap officially tossed his hat into the ring

  13. stand up and fight

    I can’t believe there are so many traitors of the constitution in power today.Is there not one honest person of power who cares about the constitution .So many have given their life to protect our freedoms given to us by the constitution.Every person who helped in the cover up that has led to this constitutional crisis is guilty of treason against the U.S.A. PERIOD!!!!!

  14. http://capwiz.com/nbpc/directory/congdir.tt

    This link will take you to a directory, just select party or chamber or state.
    I have Kentucky officials bookmarked since I usually email them weekly!!

  15. CW, you need to go to this link, things are worse than they appear if this posting is accurate. Obama and Heir Axlerod have been playing us for fools. I am starting to believe that this whole event has been choreographed right down to martial law and stateside military deployment. The SCOTUS is probably in on it. You may want to investigate the merit of the information at this link from worldnet.com and if viable you may want to promulgate it on your blog. You don’t need to post this comment in your comments column; I just didn’t know how to contact you directly so you could peruse this information:


    Obama is the epitome of evil and not only is he a bastard; it would appear he is a political bastard as well. God preserve the constitution and this great republic.

  16. GO back to you’er troll hole johny you Obot take youer oppinion elsewhere you ai’nt gonna scare me and american patriots why you here you fn mole troll.

  17. Pray, Pray, Pray. God has a lot going on in the background. The way is prepared for a real change. Barack Obama has shown he is not conforming to what his voters expected. No real change; that could influence the Electoral College. Even if it doesn’t God has prepared another way to slip in His choice if we want His way. Pray, Pray, Pray, there is a goal.

    God has a candidate that is prepared to step into the presidency and end the wars with our troops quickly coming home with honor on both sides. World problems have a solution. The pollution, global warming, energy crisis, food crisis, war, immigration, health care crisis, crime, social security insufficiencies, poverty and inequality can all be solved from realizing we are going the wrong way.

    The goal in life is not employment; the goal in life is a retirement lifestyle where our time is our own to create a garden paradise where trees, plants and animals provide fresh food in our community. It gives us time to repair our homes, communities and families.

    God promised to destroy those who were destroying the earth; that is us if we do not change. We can see our ways leading to our extinction. The way is prepared for a smooth transition, made easier by the financial crisis. Bill Clinton, Tom Daschle, President Bush and Barack Obama have in their turn rejected this plan, the only fair, sustainable, inexpensive plan to bring true prosperity, independence and freedom. Pray, Pray, Pray.

  18. Has this been confirmed..citizenwells?


    This is Obama Speaking….


    October 29, 2008

    BREAKING: Transcript of Obama-Khalidi Tape

    L.A. Times


    ****BEGINNING OF TRANSCRIPT***********

    Um, ah….Salaam

    Um….My distinguished guests….ughh….it is an honor to be here…

    uhh….It is truly refreshing to be surrounded by such a large group of people in which…uh.. I can truly see eye-to-eye with…uh…and completely agree…

    Reverend Farrakhan..ughh…great to see you tonight…you always look great in a yellow bow-tie…and..uhh…tonight is no exception….

    Bill..Bernadine….I see you everyday…so I don’t need to say much…but…ughh…you know I love you….keep doing the work you do….it’s time to start a revolution

    Reverend Wright…..ughh…you are the father that I never had….I’ve never missed a sermon…and…uhh….I never will…

    Michelle, while I find your frown so beautiful….I hope to one day make you proud of this country..and uhh…happy…and finally see you smile….

    uhhhhh…with that being said…If everyone could please hold off from hitting the hookah…I would like to say a toast..to my, and Yasser Arafat’s, best friend….Mr. Rashid Khalidi….

    Rashid…..you are my best friend….spiritual compass…..and baby sitter (crowd laughs..and cries)

    I want to thank you for your constant indoctrination….I want to thank you for your imput..and..uhhh…reminders…that Israel is a constant sore….and..uhh…needs to be eliminated off the map….

    I also want to thank you for introducing me to your many contacts in the middle east…I am sure…uh…that their input……and uh…money…..will be of great use to me as I run for President of these great 57 states…..

    While David Axelrod may be forcing you to move away from me during the campaign….I am confident…that..uhh…our friendship will not only remain..but actually prosper..during our time of absence….

    Rashid…you ARE my middle east adviser….and you ALWAYS will be…

    Here’s to Rashid……(A chant of Messiah can be heard in the background….also audible…is a voice (thought to be Ayer’s) screaming REVOLUTION…REVOLUTION..over and over…)


    **************END OF TRANSCRIPT

  19. Cute.

  20. Globe Magazine did a cover story on this for its latest edition. http://www.globemagazine.com

  21. I’m a little curious…what are the “health issues” raised on Plains Radio that Leo got so mad about? anyone know?

  22. Sorry citizenwells, I was just asking if THE TAPE THAT OBAMA DOESN’T WANT LA TIMES TO RELEASE!!!! this was real or not?

  23. I hope not.
    The cute comment was not directed at you but at the tape.
    Well, you may be cute too.

  24. Ed Hale told of an email that he received with a “health” site that listed obama having aids and herpes… The site is a site that anyone can report that stuff, so it is NOT a FACT, just a smear…Leo has high integrity and did NOT want to be a part of that.

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  26. Amy, thanks for the info.

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