Time Constitution article, One Document Under Siege, It’s the Constitution stupid, Tenth Amendment
“We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.”…Abraham Lincoln
“If in the opinion of the People, the distribution or modification of the Constitutional powers be in any particular wrong, let it be corrected by an amendment in the way which the Constitution designates. But let there be no change by usurpation, for through this in one instance, may be the instrument of good, it is the customary weapon by which free governments are destroyed.”…George Washington
“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it”…Joseph Goebbels
From Time June 23, 2011.
“Here are a few things the framers did not know about: World War II.
DNA. Sexting. Airplanes. The atom. Television. Medicare.
Collateralized debt obligations. The germ theory of disease.
Miniskirts. The internal combustion engine. Computers. Antibiotics.
Lady Gaga.
People on the right and left constantly ask what the framers would say
about some event that is happening today. What would the framers say
about whether the drones over Libya constitute a violation of Article
I, Section 8, which gives Congress the power to declare war? Well,
since George Washington didn’t even dream that man could fly, much
less use a global-positioning satellite to aim a missile, it’s hard to
say what he would think. What would the framers say about whether a
tax on people who did not buy health insurance is an abuse of
Congress’s authority under the commerce clause? Well, since James
Madison did not know what health insurance was and doctors back then
still used leeches, it’s difficult to know what he would say. And what
would Thomas Jefferson, a man who owned slaves and is believed to have
fathered children with at least one of them, think about a half-white,
half-black American President born in Hawaii (a state that did not
exist)? Again, hard to say.”
“Where’s the Crisis?
A new focus on the Constitution is at the center of our political
stage with the rise of the Tea Party and its almost fanatical focus on
the founding document. The new Republican Congress organized a reading
of all 7,200 words of an amended version of the Constitution on the
House floor to open its first session. As a counterpoint to the rise
of constitutional originalists (those who believe the document should
be interpreted only as the drafters understood it), liberal legal
scholars analyze the text just as closely to find the elasticity they
believe the framers intended. Everywhere there seems to be debate
about the scope and meaning and message of the Constitution. This is a
healthy thing. Even the framers would agree on that.”
“If the Constitution was intended to limit the federal government, it
sure doesn’t say so. Article I, Section 8, the longest section of the
longest article of the Constitution, is a drumroll of congressional
power. And it ends with the “necessary and proper” clause, which
delegates to Congress the power “to make all laws which shall be
necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers,
and all other powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of
the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.” Limited
government indeed.”
“It is true that the framers, like Tea Partyers, feared concentrated
central power more than disorder. They were, after all,
revolutionaries. To them, an all-powerful state was a greater threat
to liberty than discord and turbulence. Jefferson, like many of the
antifederalists, did think the Constitution created too much
centralized power. Most of all, the framers created a weak Executive
because they feared kings. They created checks and balances to
neutralize any concentration of power. This often makes for disorderly
government, but it does forestall any one branch from having too much
influence. The framers weren’t afraid of a little messiness. Which is
another reason we shouldn’t be so delicate about changing the
Constitution or reinterpreting it. It was written in a spirit of
change and revolution and turbulence. It was not written in stone. Its
purpose was to create a government that could unite and lead and
govern a new nation, a nation the framers hoped would grow in size and
strength in ways they could not imagine. And it did.”
“Some opponents of birthright citizenship argue that illegal immigrants
are not under U.S. jurisdiction and therefore their children should
not automatically become citizens, but this argument doesn’t hold up
under scrutiny. Senator Lindsey Graham of South Carolina has suggested
he might offer an amendment to overturn the principle of birthright
citizenship. I’ve always thought it odd that a nation united not by
blood or religion or ethnic identity but by certain extraordinary
ideas is a nation where citizenship is conferred on the basis of where
you were physically born. It’s equally strange to me that a nation
that was forged through immigration — and is still formed by
immigration — is also a nation that makes it constitutionally
impossible for someone who was not physically born here to run for
President. (Yes, the framers had their reasons for that, but those
reasons have long since vanished.)”
“The Constitution
works so well precisely because it is so opaque, so general, so open
to various interpretations. Originalists contend that the Constitution
has a clear, fixed meaning. But the framers argued vehemently about
its meaning. For them, it was a set of principles, not a code of laws.
A code of laws says you have to stop at the red light; a constitution
has broad principles that are unchanging but that must accommodate
each new generation and circumstance.”
“We can pat ourselves on the back about the past 223 years, but we
cannot let the Constitution become an obstacle to the U.S.’s moving
into the future with a sensible health care system, a globalized
economy, an evolving sense of civil and political rights. The
Constitution, as Martin Luther King Jr. said in his great speech on
the Mall, is a promissory note. That note had not been fulfilled for
African Americans. But I would say the Constitution remains a
promissory note, one in which “We the People” in each generation try
to create that more perfect union.”
Read more:
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,2079445,00.html
The primary motive for this article was to make money for Time. I get that.
However, the article is so full of half truths and lies mingled with some truths, lib speak and orwellian speak, it is difficult to react to it in a rationale manner. I do not want to be the proverbial person arguing with the fool .
First, “Here are a few things the framers did not know about:”
What is their point? The founders were intimately familiar with tyranny and far more hardships that I hope that we ever know.
Second, “Tea Party and its almost fanatical focus on
the founding document.”
In typical left wing fashion they insult decent Americans who uphold and defend the Constitution. Is breathing, drinking water and eating fanaticism?
Third, “If the Constitution was intended to limit the federal government, it
sure doesn’t say so.” The founding fathers realized that the original Constitution focused too much power in the federal branch and added the Bill of Rights, the first 10 amendments. The Tenth Amendment alone makes it clear that the Federal government is not all powerful.
Fourth, “is also a nation that makes it constitutionally
impossible for someone who was not physically born here to run for
President. (Yes, the framers had their reasons for that, but those
reasons have long since vanished.)” In typical left wing arrogant fashion, they know more than the out dated old fuddy duddies.
And lastly, my ending response to the article ending.
“A constitution in and of itself guarantees nothing. Bolshevik Russia
had a constitution, as did Nazi Germany. Cuba and Libya have
constitutions. A constitution must embody something that is in the
hearts of the people. In the midst of World War II, the great judge
Learned Hand gave a speech in New York City’s Central Park that came
to be known as “The Spirit of Liberty.” It was a dark time, with
freedom and liberty under threat in Europe. Hand noted that we are
Americans by choice, not birth. That we are Americans precisely
because we seek liberty and freedom — not only freedom from oppression
but freedom of speech and belief and action. “What do we mean when we
say that first of all we seek liberty?” he asked. “I often wonder
whether we do not rest our hopes too much upon constitutions, upon
laws and upon courts.”
If you read the above carefully, they make my point. That is, we had a upheld, intact Constitution that allowed Learned Hand to speak. Perhaps if the good citizens of Nazi Germany had rested their ” hopes too much upon constitutions, upon laws and upon courts” a disaster could have been avoided.
It’s the Constitution stupid!
Not a suggestion.
Citizen WElls 
Glenn Beck receives 5 Orwells for his stupid uniformed comments about Sheriff Joe Arpaio, Beck more Alinsky than Obama?, It’s the Constitution stupid
Glenn Beck receives 5 Orwells for his stupid uniformed comments about Sheriff Joe Arpaio, Beck more Alinsky than Obama?, It’s the Constitution stupid
“You can’t fix stupid.”…Ron White
“Why has Obama, since taking the White House, used Justice Department Attorneys, at taxpayer expense, to avoid presenting a legitimate birth certificate and college records?”…Citizen Wells
“Why does Glenn Beck continue to make uninformed attacks and insults upon Sheriff Joe Arpaio and millions of concerned Americans?”…Citizen Wells
“Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism.”…George Washington
If you are a Glenn Beck listener I suggest you come here for the truth. To be deprogrammed from the modern day Big Brother spokesman, Glenn Beck. Beck would have you believe that upholding the constitution in regard to Obama eligibility is not an issue. That all of the fraud that Obama has committed is not the issue.
Whether or not the Obama camp has used the birth certificate as a distraction is hardly the point.
It’s the Constitution stupid.
Upholding the US Constitution is the most real issue that we can ever have. It is what the founding fathers and subsequent generations have fought to preserve. It is what generations of immigrants struggled to gain. A safe harbor in which they, their families and descendants could thrive in.
From GlennBeck.com March 2, 2012.
“Huh? Sheriff Joe Arpaio gives Obama 2012 a gift, goes after birth certificate”
“Just when Obama was starting to run out of things to say about Republicans, Sheriff Joe Arpaio decides to come out and launch a big investigation into Barack Obama’s birth certificate. Why he decided to bring this ridiculous issue, one that only gives Obama an opportunity to call the right (justifiably so, in this case) ‘crazy’ – is beyond explanation. But, he’s doing it anyway.
“Okay. Look, I am a fan of Sheriff Joe Arpaio. I am a guy who has supported him in the past. I like him, I… I think he’s great on illegal immigration. But Joe, have you gone nuts?” Glenn said as he opened the show.
The birth certificate has long been a tool of the Obama administration to distract people from real issues, like inflation, and to paint the Tea Party as racist and insane. Most of the outcry over the birth certificate had died down after Donald Trump faded into the background of the latest The Apprentice season and Obama releasing a copy of the birth certificate. Sadly, Sherrif Arpaio had to bring it up again.
Glenn treated the whole thing as a joke, presenting some wild theories of his own. Could the Obama administration have presented a forgery only to leave the real one in a vault just to screw with people? Or could he be the grandson of Sally Hemmings and Kruschev?
Even though Stu was really, really , really sick of having to talk about the “birther” issue on air once again, Glenn felt like he had to explain why it’s such a ridiculous story.
“Here’s the thing. You have two newspapers that ran the birth announcement,” Glenn said.
“Which is more likely that he was, he was a Soviet plant from birth? Because really that’s what has to happen to be able to have the 1962 records in the newspaper,” Glenn said.
“Now really? Are we going to the place to where they knew from birth that this guy was going to be President of the United States? Which is more likely? That they knew from birth or the President of the United States and his minions are so good at what they do and they’re taking just great joy and glee and delight in holding that birth certificate back as long as they possibly can, not answering, just to make everybody look like crazy Birthers and then seriously,” Glenn said.
Stu, obviously frustrated, said, “The thing is that the Obama administration actually has conversations like this: Imagine if we didn’t have to justify any of our economic failures and we could just talk about whether or not I was born here? That’s the conversation they have.”
“There is one person on Earth, one, one person on Earth that I am more sure about his citizenship in the United States than Barack Obama, one. His name is Zachary Burguiere. He’s my son. I was there for his birth. Including myself. I have more evidence that he, Barack Obama, was born in America,” Stu said.
Stu’s frustration comes from the fact that every time someone brings up the birth certificate, he’s the one assigned the job of looking into whatever arguments are being created to say Barack Obama was not born in the United States.
“About 80% of my pay I believe comes from the fact that you torture me with this stupid story,” Stu lamented.
When Obama released his birth certificate last year, Stu released a “real” birth certificate lampooning some of the ridiculous theories:”
http://www.glennbeck.com/2012/03/02/huh-sheriff-joe-arpaio-gives-obama-2012-a-gift-goes-after-birth-certificate/
Commenter Pete wrote on March 4, 2012.
“I posted on this on his site 2 days ago.
…….Glenn Beck.
I doubt you would read this, but I am trying to grasp your concept. You see the danger of Obama being that of policy, one that leads to ‘socialism’ (really it’s closer to fascism IMHO). His concepts, used before by progressives, always lead to loss of liberty and freedoms and the citizens of this country suffering a failed economic agenda. The misery index is indeed well and alive under Obama, with estimated inflation now 8%, unemployment 16% (1970′s standards). The policy of socialist ‘chaos’ and overburden to the ‘working poor’ has accelerated at massive rates. The progressive agenda IS the problem, Obama is just the messenger of that agenda. You see Obama as another progressive, in a whomp a mole game of progressives, and hitting him with eligibility doesn’t stop the next progressive mole from popping up. Thus, you see Arpaio efforts as futile, even if the findings are accurate.
I do not agree with you here, not in the slightest. Al Capone was not brought down by the horrible crimes he performed, but by ‘tax evasion’. Obama, and his thugs, are in this category. Destroying Obama from an eligibility standpoint will immediately open the door to widespread fraud investigations into his ‘previous’ political life and graft in Chicago (see Rezco and Frawley). People will want to know how this could happen, how they could be lied to, whom ran cover for the greatest fraud in history. Pandora’s box will open, and all the ugly little progressives and their schemes will be exposed for public consumption. The people will start to follow the money, and the media will be forced to report the news. These events have the potential to heal the country, and restore it to a Constitutional Republic by the awareness of the treasonous acts of those from within and their enemies from abroad. Obama’s made up past, and the keys that those exposed lies will provide, will open doors to healing a nation.
While I believe that you are a patriot, a true American, and want to defend the Constitution, you are misguided here by an elitist attitude. The belief that the American people cannot think and process the outward attack upon them, and the means of that attack, without the ‘help’ of the media enlightened. The liberals have long believed that the American people can be led like sheep, and that information must be ‘spoon fed’ to them so that they can be controlled. Try a different approach, give the people the truth, even if you don’t think it’s important, misleading, or a political deflection. Let the facts speak. Let the people decide how important the lies are, and if treasonous should be pursued. When people believe that everyone is deciding for them what is important, what to think, and what stories should be told, they don’t see a difference between politicians, networks, or political pundits. America can be saved, and yes the American people can ‘handle’ the truth. If you really want to help your fellow Americans, investigate what Arpaio is saying in a non-partisan way and give Americans the truth.
Pete…….”
From commenter GORDO March 4, 2012.
Andrea Shea King:
“Hey Glenn Beck, question with boldness?”
“Color me keenly disappointed and disillusioned. Insulted and betrayed by someone I trusted. It would have been bad enough if Glenn Beck had just come out and said why he doesn’t believe the Arpaio Cold Case Posse Report. At least he would have made an honest and truthful attempt to defend his position, giving us assurance that he had even read the report or watched the video of the news conference. But instead, Glenn used the same Alinskyite tactics he excoriates the Left for doing, mocking Americans (millions of which are his listeners) and insulting them for “questioning with boldness” and following the truth wherever it leads, because “the truth has no agenda”, right Glenn? I am so turned off by this, I can’t even watch this video again. And it will be a while before I will tune into his programs, and may cancel my subscription to GBTV.”
[more]
http://radiopatriot.wordpress.com/2012/03/03/hey-glenn-beck-question-with-boldness/
You cannot separate one distasteful aspect of Obama from another. That would be like criticizing Adolf Hitler for just impacting the Jewish economy. Citizen Wells has covered the corruption ties, radical influences, repeated lies, suspect selective service application, IL bar application, hidden college and other records as well as eligibility issues including birth certificate and natural born citizen deficiencies. It is all part of a pattern of lies, diversions, fraud and radical influences.
I agree with Beck that Obama is not the only problem. But have you noticed that for years he has gone out of his way to say that Obama is not the problem.
Glenn Beck, who are you working for? The American people or Obama?
Glenn Beck, you are deserving of 5 Orwells.
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