Category Archives: Hawaii

Abercrombie finds no birth certificate, Obama eligibility, Vital records search, Birth notation found

Abercrombie finds no birth certificate, Obama eligibility, Vital records search, Birth notation found

“Why has Obama, for over 2 years, employed numerous private and government attorneys to avoid presenting a legitimate birth certificate and college records?”…Citizen Wells and millions of concerned Americans

From World Net Daily January 18, 2011.

“Hawaii Gov. Neil Abercrombie suggested in an interview published today that a long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate for Barack Obama may not exist within the vital records maintained by the Hawaii Department of Health.

Abercrombie told the Honolulu Star Advertiser he was searching within the Hawaii Department of Health to find definitive vital records that would prove Obama was born in Hawaii, because the continuing eligibility controversy could hurt the president’s chances of re-election in 2012.

Donalyn Dela Cruz, Abercrombie’s spokeswoman in Honolulu, ignored again today another in a series of repeated requests made by WND for an interview with the governor.

Toward the end of the interview, the newspaper asked Abercrombie: “You stirred up quite a controversy with your comments regarding birthers and your plan to release more information regarding President Barack Obama’s birth certificate. How is that coming?”

In his response, Abercrombie acknowledged the birth certificate issue will have “political implications” for the next presidential election “that we simply cannot have.”
Suggesting he was still intent on producing more birth records on Obama from the Hawaii Department of Health vital records vault, Abercrombie told the newspaper there was a recording of the Obama birth in the state archives that he wants to make public.
Abercrombie did not report to the newspaper that he or the Hawaii Department of Health had found Obama’s long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate. The governor only suggested his investigations to date had identified an unspecified listing or notation of Obama’s birth that someone had made in the state archives.

“It was actually written, I am told, this is what our investigation is showing, it actually exists in the archives, written down,” Abercrombie said.

For seemingly the first time, Abercrombie frankly acknowledged that presidential politics motivated his search for Obama birth records, implying that failure to resolve the questions that remain unanswered about the president’s birth and early life may damage his chance for re-election.”

Read more:

http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=252833#ixzz1BRJWqnL8

Robert H. Cipperly, LCDR letter to Georgia elected officials, Obama eligibility, GA ballot

Robert H. Cipperly, LCDR letter to Georgia elected officials, Obama eligibility, GA ballot

“Why has Obama, for over 2 years, employed numerous private and government attorneys to avoid presenting a legitimate birth certificate and college records?”…Citizen Wells and millions of concerned Americans

From the Post & Email January 17, 2011.

“An Open Letter to:

Governor Nathan Deal
Office of the Governor
State of Georgia
203 State Capitol
Atlanta, GA 30334

Tel 404-656-1776; Fax 404-657-7332

Sam Olens
Georgia Attorney General
Office of the Attorney General
40 Capitol Square, SWAtlanta, GA 30334

Tel 404-656-3300; Fax 404-657-8733

Senator Bill Jackson
319-A Cordell Legislative Office Building
Atlanta, GA 30334

Tel 404-656-5114; Fax 404-657-0797

Bill.Jackson@senate.ga.gov

Representative Ben Harbin
245 State Capitol
Atlanta, GA 30334

Tel 404-463-2247

Ben.harbin@house.ga.gov

Dear Georgia elected Officials;

I know it is early days in the present Georgia Administration. However, I am writing to you now because of the importance of the current Constitutional crisis that the United States of America and, by default the State of Georgia now finds itself in. The Georgia Constitution is very specific as to the protections afforded the citizens of Georgia as to their freedoms and liberty. These freedoms are being severely eroded by the overreach of the Federal Government that are in violation of the Tenth amendment to the United States Constitution concerning States sovereignty.

First, a man who calls himself Barak Hussein Obama was put on the ballot in Georgia as a candidate for the office of president of the United States. To date, there has been no validated documentation that has been provided that such a person exists and that such a person has the qualifications under Article II of the United States Constitution that requires the Office of the President of the United States be a “Natural Born Citizen”. The person in question has admitted publicly that he was born as the son of a British subject and, that alone, disqualifies him to reside in the White House. Also, investigations have shown that he has used several different Social Security numbers. The main one that has been used appears to be one that belonged to someone else from the state of Connecticut. The individual in question has never been known to reside in that state. He also claims education that has for all intensive purposes has been proven to be fictitious and he has never disputed the findings, nor have any of the persons involved with the facility ever come forward with proof of such activity. Further, he has traveled to a foreign country when travel to that country was banned by the US Government for US citizens. No such passport has ever been found that supports such travel. For all intensive purposes, we really have no idea of who this person really is. It is requested that an investigation be done to determine if the laws of Georgia were broken when this person was placed on the ballot for the position of President of the United States.”

“Third, the certification that was provided to the State of Georgia was done so by Nancy Pelosi and the Democratic National Committee. That Certification was not done in accordance with the requirements of the Constitution of the United States of America. A properly worded Certification was submitted to the State of Hawaii. However, the other 49 states received a different letter of Certification. It is requested that this certification be examined to determine if there was voter fraud perpetrated in its submission. Also, if the Certification was attested to under penalty of perjury and it is determined that the person placed on the ballot does not qualify under Article II of the Constitution as a Natural Born Citizen, then charges of perjury be made for those who made the attestation.”

“Respectfully,

Robert H. Cipperly, LCDR (USN Ret.) CIA (Ret.)”

Read more:

http://www.thepostemail.com/2011/01/17/georgia-elected-officials-have-been-put-on-notice-about-obamas-ineligibility/

HR 1503 revisited?, Presidential Eligibility Act, Brian Williams interview of Speaker Boehner, Williams says citizen, Natural Born Citizen

HR 1503 revisited?, Presidential Eligibility Act, Brian Williams interview of Speaker Boehner, Williams says citizen, Natural Born Citizen

“Why has Obama, for over 2 years, employed numerous private and government attorneys to avoid presenting a legitimate birth certificate and college records?”…Citizen Wells and millions of concerned Americans

Speaker of the House John Boehner was interviewed by Brian Williams last friday after the reading of the US Constitution in the House Chambers and the shout of “Except Obama, except Obama” when the Natural Born Citizen clause was read. Williams continues the Orwellian tradition of the mainstream media of obfuscating the Obama eligibility issues by using citizen instead of Natural Born Citizen. Boehner, as Speaker of the House, should know better and should have corrected Williams. Otherwise, we have just another Pelosi look alike.

At approx one minute Williams brings up the fact that twelve congressmen have challenged Obama’s eligibility. Apparently he was referring to HR 1503 that was initiated by Representative Posey with twelve cosponsors.

HR 1503, which expired with the end of the 111th Congress contained the following language:

“To amend the Federal Election Campaign Act of 1971 to require the principal campaign committee of a candidate for election to the office of President to include with the committee’s statement of organization a copy of the candidate’s birth certificate, together with such other documentation as may be necessary to establish that the candidate meets the qualifications for eligibility to the Office of President under the Constitution.”

http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h1503/text

Williams speaks in the present tense about the twelve congressmen. Is he referring to the 2009 bill or new initiatives?

John Boehner needs a quick tutoring on the US Constitution and the status of Obama eligibility questions. He did state that he would not tell the other congressmen what to think. That is good, but he can and must do better.

John Boehner call me, Call John Boehner, US Constitution, Natural Born Citizen, You just took the oath, You just read the US Constitution

John Boehner call me, Call John Boehner, US Constitution, Natural Born Citizen, You just took the oath, You just read the US Constitution

“Why has Obama, for over 2 years, employed numerous private and government attorneys to avoid presenting a legitimate birth certificate and college records?”…Citizen Wells and millions of concerned Americans

“No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United
States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be
eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be
eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of
thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the
United States.”…US Constitution

I

Am

Pissed!

John Boehner, you just took the oath and read the US Constitution! The requirement for president is not citizen! It is Natural Born Citizen! And while we are at it, the State of Hawaii has not verified that Obama was born there!

From The Hill January 6, 2011.

“An individual who believes President Obama wasn’t born in the United States interrupted a House reading Thursday of the U.S. Constitution.”

“Birthers accuse Obama of not having been born in the U.S., despite the release of his birth certificate showing that he was born in Hawaii.”

“Update, 3:51 p.m.: In an interview to air this evening on NBC Nightly News, House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) reacted to the outburst and said he believed Obama is a U.S. citizen.
“The state of Hawaii has said that President Obama was born there,” Boehner said. “That’s good enough for me.””

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/136379-birther-interrupts-house-reading-of-constitution

The following statement is a lie:

” despite the release of his birth certificate showing that he was born in Hawaii.”

John Boehner, call me!

We will be calling John Boehner!

Megyn Kelly Neil Abercrombie panel biased and uninformed, Fox News fair & Balanced?, Fox biased, Boobs on news shows

Megyn Kelly Neil Abercrombie panel biased and uninformed, Fox News fair & Balanced?, Fox biased, Boobs on news shows

I held off of letting Megyn Kelly have it until yesterday even though she had made some stupid, uninformed comments about the Obama eligibility issues. She was undoubtedly influenced by the pontificating, bloviator Bill O’Reilly. She crossed the line a few days ago when she interviewed two biased and uninformed panelists regarding the Governor Neil Abercrombie remarks about Obama’s birth and birth certificate.

First of all, Fox News touts being “fair and balanced.” This show was one of the most unfair and unbalanced that I have viewed. It almost gave MSNBC credibility. The guests were:

Dan Gerstein, president of Gotham Ghostwriters, a Democrat Strategist and clearly a Orwellian spin meister for Obama.

Rich Lowry, editor of the National review. All he did was regurgitate the standard lines from the left.

Not only did Megyn Kelly not ask probing journalistic questions such as:

 Why has Obama, for over 2 years, employed numerous private and government attorneys to avoid presenting a legitimate birth certificate and college records?

Isn’t Obama ineligible due to not being a natural born citizen? His father was Kenyan/British. The founding fathers had to be grandfathered in to be eligible. Senate resolution 511 stated that McCain had 2 US Citizen parents.

The Certification of Live birth, COLB, placed on the internet. Do we have proof it was issued by the state of Hawaii? Isn’t the COLB, as Lou Dobbs stated, just a piece of paper that refers to another piece of paper? Is it possible to get a COLB and not be born in Hawaii?

There are obviously more questions that could be asked. Not only did Megyn Kelly not ask real questions, she joined in the “feeding frenzy” and lent credence to comments made by her biased panelists. This was one of the more disgusting displays I have ever witnessed on TV!

And Megyn Kelly is a law school graduate. She referred to comments made by FactCheck.org and to birth announcements in newspapers as evidence.

Robert Bauer et al illegally scheme with Obama, Attorney ethics, Rules of Professional Conduct, Criminal or fraudulent conduct

 Robert Bauer et al illegally scheme with Obama, Attorney ethics, Rules of Professional Conduct, Criminal or fraudulent conduct

“Why has Obama, for over 2 years, employed numerous private and government attorneys to avoid presenting a legitimate birth certificate and college records?”…Citizen Wells and millions of concerned Americans

“Seditious conspiracy
If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.”… US Code, TITLE 18 > PART I > CHAPTER 115 > § 2384

Robert Bauer, husband of Anita ( Mao Tse-Tung is my hero) Dunn, is at it again. He is aiding Obama in his continued efforts to keep his birth certificate and other records hidden. At this point, it must be assumed that Bauer’s primary motivation is to avoid jail time for himself.

 From the Birther Report December 30, 2010.

“This is an update to the Colonel Gregory Hollister v. Barry Soetoro aka Barack Obama, et al, lawsuit that was in the United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia. The Supreme Court of the United States website now shows the Petition for Writ of Certiorari was Distributed for Conference of January 14, 2011. The two previous filings by Col. Hollister in the Appeals court embedded below. That makes three eligibility cases against Obama before the Supreme Court in 2010, more details on the other cases here and here.

Click on the screen shot below and check out the law firm that is still defending Barry Soetoro AKA Barack Hussein Obama Soebarkah.

Cycle of Discernment at Free Republic laid out the expensive details;

(Robert Bauer-married to former Obama WH Communications Director Anita Dunn, who professed that Mao Tse-Tung was a personal hero–was appointed last year as White Counsel by Obama and had been the lead atty representing Obama in blocking release of any Obama documents).”

Read more:

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/12/colonel-hollister-v-barry-soetoroobama.html

You remember Robert Bauer.

From Citizen Wells September 24, 2008.

“44. Mr. Berg then alleges that Barack Obama,
the Democratic Party’s nominee for President of the United States, is not eligible to serve
as President under Article II, section 1 of the Constitution because, Mr. Berg alleges
(contrary to fact) that Senator Obama is not a natural-born citizen.”
“Robert F. Bauer
General Counsel, Obama for America
PERKINS COIE
607 Fourteenth Street N.W.
Washington, D.C. 20005-2003”

https://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2008/09/24/philip-j-berg-lawsuit-obama-files-motion-to-dismiss-dnc-motion-to-dismiss-september-24-2008/

From Citizen Wells September 28, 2010.

“Robert F. Bauer was a partner in Perkins Coie before becoming White House Counsel in 2009. Bauer also began defending Barack Obama in eligibility lawsuits in 2008. Perkins Coie has represented Obama for America for over 2 years. Bauer is married to Anita (“I look to Chairman Mao”) Dunn.

Here is the payment total to Perkins Coie from Obama for America for the second quarter 2010.”

https://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2010/09/28/obama-attorneys-aid-obama-in-illegal-activities-robert-bauer-perkins-coie-help-obama-hide-birth-certificate-records-payments-to-attorneys/

Many people are aware of the concept of attorney client previlege. Most people are not aware of the following.

From the American Bar Association.

“A lawyer shall not counsel a client to engage, or assist a client, in conduct that the lawyer knows is criminal or fraudulent”

http://www.abanet.org/cpr/mrpc/rule_1_2.html

Model Rules of Professional Conduct
Maintaining The Integrity Of The Profession
Rule 8.4 Misconduct
“It is professional misconduct for a lawyer to:

(a) violate or attempt to violate the Rules of Professional Conduct, knowingly assist or induce another to do so, or do so through the acts of another;

(b) commit a criminal act that reflects adversely on the lawyer’s honesty, trustworthiness or fitness as a lawyer in other respects;

(c) engage in conduct involving dishonesty, fraud, deceit or misrepresentation;

(d) engage in conduct that is prejudicial to the administration of justice;

(e) state or imply an ability to influence improperly a government agency or official or to achieve results by means that violate the Rules of Professional Conduct or other law; or

(f) knowingly assist a judge or judicial officer in conduct that is a violation of applicable rules of judicial conduct or other law.”

http://www.abanet.org/cpr/mrpc/rule_8_4.html

I stated in 2008 that Obama had to win the popular vote and scheme his way into the White House to avoid prosecution. Likewise, it is apparent that Robert Bauer is fighting to avoid prosecution of himself.

Cornell law professor, Obama eligibility, William A. Jacobson, Evidence must be reviewed, Birth certificate, Natural born citizen Status

Cornell law professor, Obama eligibility, William A. Jacobson, Evidence must be reviewed, Birth certificate, Natural born citizen Status

“Why has Obama, for over 2 years, employed numerous private and government attorneys to avoid presenting a legitimate birth certificate and college records?”…Citizen Wells and millions of concerned Americans

I would like to thank William A. Jacobson, Associate Clinical Professor, Cornell Law School, for an excellent article on the Obama eligibility controversies and for allowing my comment on his blog.

“There is a bizarre intellectual dance taking place around the topic of Barack Obama’s birthplace. 

The world has been artificially divided into “Birthers” and “anti-Birthers” when in fact I suspect a large percentage or even majority of the population is neither and simply wants all the evidence released so that we can move beyond the issue.  For most people, who have had to show their own birth certificates at various points in their lives, the notion that a presidential candidate should release his or her birth certificate to prove qualification for office reflects neither pro- nor anti-Obama sentiment, but a “what’s the big deal?” attitude.

It also seems that the supposed intellectual poles have been reversed.

People who supposedly are irrational and driven by hatred demand to see the evidence.  People who supposedly are rational and driven by dispassionate intellect demand that the evidence not be seen.

Isn’t this the exact opposite of what should take place?  Or have the labels been misapplied?

We can push and probe as to George W. Bush’s military record even though most of the claims made clearly were crank and politically motivated (and based on forged documents).  We can lament that 35% of Democrats as of May 2007 still believed George W. Bush knew of the 9/11 attacks in advance, or that Truthers still claim 9/11 was an inside government job, even though we have had commissions and investigations which prove otherwise.

We can deal with accusations of John McCain’s alleged misconduct during imprisonment even though such suggestions were beyond the pale, and also questions as to whether McCain’s birth in the Panama Canal Zone disqualified him from the highest office in the land:

The Senate has unanimously declared John McCain a natural-born citizen, eligible to be president of the United States….”

“Why isn’t everyone who believes the “Birthers” to be driven by hatred and racism, and motivated by politics, doing what Obama’s family friend and the new Democratic Governor of Hawaii wants to do, rebut and rebuke with the best evidence?

I think a large part of this is the fear of being labeled a “Birther,” which is the functional equivalent of being called a “racist” by the mainstream media and by organizations such as Media Matters, Think Progress and their progeny.  As I have pointed out before, you don’t need to doubt Obama’s birthplace or eligibility to be labeled a “Birther”; just ask Scott Brown.

We have reached the point that merely expressing normal political and legal inquisitiveness will result in a charge of Birtherism or racism because it now involves Barack Obama, even though similar questions as to John McCain’s eligibility for office were raised in the 2008 election cycle.

I repeat, whiter-than-white John McCain had his eligibility questioned because of his birthplace, so how is it necessarily racist that the same thing takes place as to Barack Obama?  The racist charge is just a way of shutting down the conversation, a convenient excuse for epistemic closure.

As I’ve posted before, I think the circumstantial evidence supports the view that Obama was born in Hawaii, and there is no credible evidence otherwise.  But to reach this conclusion, the one thing neither I nor anyone else can honestly say is that all the evidence has been reviewed.

And personally, I’d love for the records to be released and show that Obama was born in Hawaii, so as to put this politically losing issue behind us.  I’d much rather focus politically on Obama’s destruction of the health care system and bankrupting of the country, than be drawn into the birthplace dance.

But I also have pointed out that Obama’s strategy of concealing the records and dismissing the “Birthers” as cranks is not working in the longer term.  While the charge of Birtherism can be used by Democrats to shape the political landscape, polling shows that there is a substantial segment of the population which doubts Obama’s legitimacy. ”

Read more:

http://legalinsurrection.blogspot.com/2010/12/bizarre-birther-intellectual-dance.html#comment-form

“But to reach this conclusion, the one thing neither I nor anyone else can honestly say is that all the evidence has been reviewed.”

Correct, Mr. Jacobson.

There were some really interesting comments placed under the article. I urge you to read them. Not the least of them was one from Captain Pamela Barnett.

“Barnieca said…

I appreciate that it seems that you are trying to be honest…. SCOTUS rulings prove that obama is not a natural born citizen because he had a foreign father that was NEVER a U.S. citizen. I see a lot of supposedly smart liberal educators ignore this fact. I am suing obama and it did NOT ever stem from hate. I fight for truth and justice under our Constitution. The only question of Natural born centers around where a child was born.. Parent citizenship has always been required to be of TWO citizen parents. If Obama was born in HI as he claims but has not proven, he would only be a NATIVE born citizen as he says on his own campaign website. Native and Natural Born are not equal. Native is Jus solis, but ignores the jus sanquenis aspect to make him Natural Born. There is also a difference between being Born a citizen and natural born.

I swore an oath to defend the Constitution and so did LTC Terrence Lakin who sits in Fort Leavenworth for demanding this issue be resolved before he would deploy again. safeguardourconstitution dot com
you can also see my new website unlawfulpresident dot com for videos that support my belief obama is not NBC.
CPT Pamela Barnett

December 29, 2010 12:27 PM”

My Comment.
 “citizenwells said…

Why has Obama, for over 2 years, employed numerous private and government attorneys to avoid presenting a legitimate birth certificate and college records?
That is the question.
With all due respect, there is no credible circumstantial evidence that Obama was born in Hawaii. As a matter of fact, the efforts expended in keeping the records hidden and covering up put suspicion on where he was born.
Wells

December 29, 2010 1:53 PM”

Neil Abercrombie and media lies, Governor Abercrombie exposed, Obama birth certificate, Natural born citizen status

Neil Abercrombie and media lies, Governor Abercrombie exposed, Obama birth certificate, Natural born citizen status

“Why has Obama, for over 2 years, employed numerous private and government attorneys to avoid presenting a legitimate birth certificate and college records?”…Citizen Wells and millions of concerned Americans

“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it”…Joseph Goebbels

Has Governor Neil Abercrombie backed off of his campaign of lies to protect Obama? Abercrombie, over the past several weeks, broadcast a morass of Orwellian half truths and lies which allowed the mainstream Big Brother press, prominently represented by CNN and MSNBC to repeat the lies as Joseph Goebbels stated.

Chris Matthews, Neil Abercrombie, Clarence Page, David Corn.
Lies, lies and more lies.

““Neil Abercrombie knew Barack Obama’s parents when the future president was born here in 1961″

My response:

People in Kenya knew Obama’s parents, so he must have been born there, applying that logic.

Second.

“Maybe I’m the only one in the country that could look you right in the eye right now and tell you, ‘I was here when that baby was born.’ “

My Response:

I was here when that baby was born. Does that mean Obama was born in NC?”

https://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2010/12/28/chris-matthews-enemy-of-birthers-enemy-of-constitution-enemy-of-american-people-abercrombie-mathews-page-corn-lies-lies-and-more-lies/

Jerome Corsi, at World Net Daily, has provided some excellent background info on Neil Abercrombie.
“Although Hawaii’s newly elected Democrat governor, Neil Abercrombie, has recently given a flurry of high-profile media interviews condemning “birthers” who question Barack Obama’s constitutional eligibility to occupy the Oval Office, suddenly he is declining to answer a few hard questions.

Abercrombie, 72, a former member of the U.S. House, may be trying to quell the surge of doubt among Americans – polls show nearly six in 10 doubt Obama’s own eligibility story – by promising he will try to release additional records on Obama from his state’s Department of Health vault.

He has, in just recent days, expressed his disdain toward “birthers” in the New York Times, the Los Angeles Times, the Chicago Tribune, on CNN, as well as the local Star Advertiser and Hawaii News Now.

His startling remarks appear to be in response to the recent polling results as well as the rapidly growing list of high-profile personalities and leaders publicly raising questions about Obama’s eligibility.”

“Abercrombie was a graduate teaching assistant in sociology at the University of Hawaii when Barack Obama Sr. arrived in 1959 from Kenya to enroll as the first African-born student in the university’s history.

The problem with Abercrombie’s testimony is that Barack Obama Sr. and his wife, Ann Dunham, did not live together as man and wife with their baby son as Abercrombie claims to have witnessed.

WND has published transcripts from the University of Washington in Seattle that prove Ann Dunham was enrolled in extension classes there, across the Pacific, within three weeks of the baby’s birth.

WND further has documented Ann Dunham’s Seattle address in authoritative Seattle street directories from the period and interviewed Barack Obama Jr.’s babysitter in Seattle to further document the presence of Ann Dunham and her baby in Seattle, not Hawaii as Abercrombie has claimed.

WND also has reported that the address used in the two Hawaii newspapers in 1961 announcing the baby’s birth was 6085 Kalanianaole Highway in Honolulu, an address maintained by Ann Dunham’s parents, Madelyn and Stanley Dunham.

In August 1961, when Barack Obama Jr. was born, Barack Obama Sr. maintained a separated address on 11th Avenue, in Hawaii.
 
There is no documentary evidence that Barack Obama Sr. and Ann Dunham ever lived at the same address together as man and wife.
 
Moreover, university transcripts from the University of Washington and the University of Hawaii demonstrate that Ann Dunham remained in Seattle, fully enrolled in university courses, until she returned to Hawaii in 1962 to re-enroll in the University of Hawaii after Barack Obama Sr. had left Hawaii to attend graduate school at Harvard in Cambridge, Massachusetts.”

“During his gubernatorial campaign, Abercrombie blasted WND for publishing a report that Abercrombie was listed as a member of the U.S.-based Marxist-oriented Democratic Socialists of America.

Trevor Loudon of the New Zeal blog, a researcher on communism, uncovered the November-December 1990 issue of the Democratic Socialists of America’s official magazine, “The Democratic Left,” that listed Abercrombie as a member of the party.

The magazine stated the group’s political action committee endorsed two congressional candidates, “DSAer Democrat Neil Abercrombie seeking to regain the House seat representing Honolulu and Vermont independent candidate Bernie Sanders.”

Louden also documented that Obama attended socialist conferences in New York in the early 1980s at the Cooper Union, the usual venue for the annual DSA-organized Socialist Scholars Conferences.”

Read more:

http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=244797

Chris Matthews, Enemy of birthers, Enemy of Constitution, Enemy of American people, Abercrombie Matthews Page Corn, Lies lies and more lies

Chris Matthews, Enemy of birthers, Enemy of Constitution, Enemy of American people, Abercrombie Matthews Page Corn, Lies lies and more lies

“Why has Obama, for over 2 years, employed numerous private and government attorneys to avoid presenting a legitimate birth certificate and college records?”…Citizen Wells and millions of concerned Americans

“And if all others accepted the lie which the Party imposed
–if all records told the same tale–then the lie passed into
history and became truth. “Who controls the past,” ran the
Party slogan, “controls the future: who controls the present
controls the past.”…George Orwell, “1984″

“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it”…Joseph Goebbels

Chris Matthews, Neil Abercrombie, Clarence Page, David Corn.

Lies, lies and more lies.

Chris Matthews interviewed Clarence Page and  David Corn regarding Neil Abercrombie’s recent remarks about Obama and his birth certificate. If you are really paying attention, you realize that Abercrombie made those statements to provide a forum for the Orwellian Big Brotherhood of the mainstream media to continue to spread their lies about Obama and his eligibility issues. There is no bigger liar on this subject than Chris Matthews. However, Page and Corn proved yesterday that they are strong competitors.

Here is some background information on what Neil Abercrombie has been up to.

““Abercrombie states:

“This has to do with the people in Hawaii who love him,
who loved his mom and dad.
This has to do with the respect of the office of the president is entitled to.”

No Governor Abercrombie. This has to do with respecting the US Constitution, office of the presidency and the American people!””

““Neil Abercrombie knew Barack Obama’s parents when the future president was born here in 1961″

My response:

People in Kenya knew Obama’s parents, so he must have been born there, applying that logic.

Second.

“Maybe I’m the only one in the country that could look you right in the eye right now and tell you, ‘I was here when that baby was born.’ “

My Response:

I was here when that baby was born. Does that mean Obama was born in NC?”

Read more:

https://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2010/12/27/governor-abercrombie-interview-on-hawaii-news-now-khnl-kgmb-abercrombie-lies-for-obama-obama-birth-certificate-orwellian-word-smithing/

Let’s examine some of the transcript from Chris Matthews show yesterday. The transcript passages were taken from the MSNBC site and closely match the video.

Matthews: “i am not a birther. i am an enemy of the birthers.”

My response: This is the most honest thing Matthews has said in a long time. Interpretation: Matthews is an enemy of the US Constitution and the American people.

Page: “President’s got more important things to do, thank goodness. Governor Abercrombie says that because he was a classmate of obama’s parents. He is tired of people accusing his parents. He wants to try to put this to rest. Of course, it won’t work because the birthers aren’t interested in evidence that obama was born a u.s. citizen. They only want to hear evidence that he was not. That’s not going to happen.”

My response: If Obama is not eligible, he is not president. What does Abercrombie being in Hawaii and being friends with Obama’s parents have to do with proof Obama was born there? And who is accusing Obama’s parents of anything? Not wanting evidence of Obama’s US birth? That is all we have been trying to get for over 2 years. And once again, it is not Obama’s US Citizenship that is in question, it is his natural born citizen status.

Corn: “There’s enough evidence out there already. More importantly, there are two birth announcements in honolulu newspapers.”

My response: There is no evidence out there of Obama having a Hawaii long form birth certificate. He has employed many attorneys to avoid presenting one. The birth announcements were automatic when the COLB was applied for.

Page: “The president doesn’t care.”

My response: The only true statement by Page.

Matthews: “Doesn’t care that 43% of the country isn’t sure he’s an american.”

My response: An attempt by Matthews to ask questions, but in reality playing the “straight man” role for the next lie.

Page:  That copy you’ve got, the copy that the president has provided on the web is all you need if you’re a hawaiian to get a passport. everybody accepts that birth certificate as proof of his citizenship except for the birthers.”

My response: This is really easy to answer. If you did not get this on your own, go to Constitution 101. You do not have to be a natural born citizen to get a passport!!!

Matthews ” but the department just said the other day that there is such a thing. it exists. the document is available in storage. they have it in storage, they say. if it exists, why not put it out. just asking the obvious question. will there be any harm done by releasing the original document?”

Corn: “I will take the brave position of saying that if they can find it, they could put it out there and we can make even more fun of the birthers.”

My response:

“Why has Obama, for over 2 years, employed numerous private and government attorneys to avoid presenting a legitimate birth certificate and college records?”…Citizen Wells and millions of concerned Americans

Interview:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036697//vp/40822521#40822521

Governor Abercrombie interview on Hawaii News Now, KHNL, KGMB, Abercrombie lies for Obama, Obama birth certificate, Orwellian word smithing

Governor Abercrombie interview on Hawaii News Now, KHNL, KGMB, Abercrombie lies for Obama, Obama birth certificate, Orwellian word smithing

“Why has Obama, for over 2 years, employed numerous private and government attorneys to avoid presenting a legitimate birth certificate and college records?”…Citizen Wells and millions of concerned Americans

“And if all others accepted the lie which the Party imposed
–if all records told the same tale–then the lie passed into
history and became truth. “Who controls the past,” ran the
Party slogan, “controls the future: who controls the present
controls the past.”…George Orwell, “1984″

“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it”…Joseph Goebbels

Yesterday, December 26, 2010, the Citizen Wells blog reported on the interview of newly elected Hawaii Governor Neil Abercrombie by Hawaii News Now, KGMB, KHNL. Abercrombie, who admits to being friends with Obama and Obama’s parents, continues his Orwellian choice of words and outright lies to protect Obama. Hawaii News Now included a June 2008 article from Citizen Wells in their video. I thanked them in the article and subsequent email.

“Abercrombie states:

“This has to do with the people in Hawaii who love him,
who loved his mom and dad.
This has to do with the respect of the office of the president is entitled to.”

No Governor Abercrombie. This has to do with respecting the US Constitution, office of the presidency and the American people!”

https://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2010/12/26/neil-abercrombie-lies-for-obama-hawaii-news-now-interview-kgmb-khnl-citizen-wells-reference-call-me/

More on Abercrombie lies and deception from Citizen Wells December 24, 2010.

“Let’s examine the first piece of Orwellian spin by Abercrombie (with the help of the LA Times).

“Neil Abercrombie knew Barack Obama’s parents when the future president was born here in 1961″

My response:

People in Kenya knew Obama’s parents, so he must have been born there, applying that logic.

Second.

“Maybe I’m the only one in the country that could look you right in the eye right now and tell you, ‘I was here when that baby was born.’ “

My Response:

I was here when that baby was born. Does that mean Obama was born in NC?

Duh!

Third.

“That June, the Obama campaign released a certificate of live birth, an official document from the Hawaii Health Department certifying the facts of a person’s birth, as proof of his birthplace.”

My response:

First of all, the COLB posted on the internet is a certification not certificate. The one posted on the internet was never validated as having been issued by the state of Hawaii. And even if it had been, a HI COLB does not prove birth in Hawaii. It is as Lou Dobbs stated, a document that refers to another document.

Fourth.

“Investigations by two prominent fact-checking organizations, PolitiFact and FactCheck.org, concluded that the certificate was authentic.”

My response:

Would you trust securing the office of the presidency and upholding the US Constitution to these two FactCheck.org employees?

Fifth.

“FactCheck also turned up a 1961 birth announcement in the Honolulu Advertiser marking the birth of a son to “Mr. and Mrs. Barack H. Obama of Kalanianaole Hwy.””

My response:

Once again, we have more proof that a birth occurred, but not where.”

https://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2010/12/24/neil-abercrombie-big-brother-spokesman-orwellian-speak-hawaii-corruption-much-like-illinois-corruption-obama-tied-to-both-states/

Notice that the June 10, 2008 Citizen Wells article they include in their video is from the old format of the blog. It appears that someone had saved a copy of it months ago. I am ok with that and it might even be a good thing. Who knows.

I just realized that this copy of the screen had to have been saved before late 2008 when the headings were changed.