Governor Abercrombie interview on Hawaii News Now, KHNL, KGMB, Abercrombie lies for Obama, Obama birth certificate, Orwellian word smithing

Governor Abercrombie interview on Hawaii News Now, KHNL, KGMB, Abercrombie lies for Obama, Obama birth certificate, Orwellian word smithing

“Why has Obama, for over 2 years, employed numerous private and government attorneys to avoid presenting a legitimate birth certificate and college records?”…Citizen Wells and millions of concerned Americans

“And if all others accepted the lie which the Party imposed
–if all records told the same tale–then the lie passed into
history and became truth. “Who controls the past,” ran the
Party slogan, “controls the future: who controls the present
controls the past.”…George Orwell, “1984″

“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it”…Joseph Goebbels

Yesterday, December 26, 2010, the Citizen Wells blog reported on the interview of newly elected Hawaii Governor Neil Abercrombie by Hawaii News Now, KGMB, KHNL. Abercrombie, who admits to being friends with Obama and Obama’s parents, continues his Orwellian choice of words and outright lies to protect Obama. Hawaii News Now included a June 2008 article from Citizen Wells in their video. I thanked them in the article and subsequent email.

“Abercrombie states:

“This has to do with the people in Hawaii who love him,
who loved his mom and dad.
This has to do with the respect of the office of the president is entitled to.”

No Governor Abercrombie. This has to do with respecting the US Constitution, office of the presidency and the American people!”

https://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2010/12/26/neil-abercrombie-lies-for-obama-hawaii-news-now-interview-kgmb-khnl-citizen-wells-reference-call-me/

More on Abercrombie lies and deception from Citizen Wells December 24, 2010.

“Let’s examine the first piece of Orwellian spin by Abercrombie (with the help of the LA Times).

“Neil Abercrombie knew Barack Obama’s parents when the future president was born here in 1961″

My response:

People in Kenya knew Obama’s parents, so he must have been born there, applying that logic.

Second.

“Maybe I’m the only one in the country that could look you right in the eye right now and tell you, ‘I was here when that baby was born.’ “

My Response:

I was here when that baby was born. Does that mean Obama was born in NC?

Duh!

Third.

“That June, the Obama campaign released a certificate of live birth, an official document from the Hawaii Health Department certifying the facts of a person’s birth, as proof of his birthplace.”

My response:

First of all, the COLB posted on the internet is a certification not certificate. The one posted on the internet was never validated as having been issued by the state of Hawaii. And even if it had been, a HI COLB does not prove birth in Hawaii. It is as Lou Dobbs stated, a document that refers to another document.

Fourth.

“Investigations by two prominent fact-checking organizations, PolitiFact and FactCheck.org, concluded that the certificate was authentic.”

My response:

Would you trust securing the office of the presidency and upholding the US Constitution to these two FactCheck.org employees?

Fifth.

“FactCheck also turned up a 1961 birth announcement in the Honolulu Advertiser marking the birth of a son to “Mr. and Mrs. Barack H. Obama of Kalanianaole Hwy.””

My response:

Once again, we have more proof that a birth occurred, but not where.”

https://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2010/12/24/neil-abercrombie-big-brother-spokesman-orwellian-speak-hawaii-corruption-much-like-illinois-corruption-obama-tied-to-both-states/

Notice that the June 10, 2008 Citizen Wells article they include in their video is from the old format of the blog. It appears that someone had saved a copy of it months ago. I am ok with that and it might even be a good thing. Who knows.

I just realized that this copy of the screen had to have been saved before late 2008 when the headings were changed.

91 responses to “Governor Abercrombie interview on Hawaii News Now, KHNL, KGMB, Abercrombie lies for Obama, Obama birth certificate, Orwellian word smithing

  1. Its like when jesus said go leave you life of sin. Was he serious. of course he was. But the truth is watered down and supressed. The lies just keep piling up and the media is protecting their messiah

  2. “FactCheck also turned up a 1961 birth announcement in the Honolulu Advertiser marking the birth of a son to “Mr. and Mrs. Barack H. Obama of Kalanianaole Hwy.””
    ***********************************
    Regular readers of “jbjd” already know that documentary evidence available in the public record establishes Barack Obama stole the 2008 D Presidential nomination and then snookered a slight plurality of the American people into voting for him by tricking election officials in several states that require eligibility for office as a precondition to printing the candidate’s name on both primary and general election ballots, to print his name on the ballot, notwithstanding neither he nor anyone else who vouched he was qualified for office disclosed documentary evidence available in the public record that would establish, he is eligible for the job. But you might have missed this.

    Mr. Obama has begun wiping the 2008 slate clean, thereby announcing he intends to preserve the option to do this to us all over again in 2012.

    Way back in August 2009 I published an article on this blog entitled, RUMORS, LIES, and UNSUBSTANTIATED ‘FACTS’ in which I established that Annenberg Political FactCheck (“APFC”), the source often cited by members of Congress to their constituents whose work they wrongly assert has ‘proven’ the ‘fact’ Obama is a NBC, does not actually check facts. For example, I showed the image of a ‘newspaper birth announcement’ displayed on APFC’s web site which they accredited to the Honolulu Advertiser claiming the information they were posting on the APFC site had been uncovered by a “researcher” whose results an anonymous commenter then posted on the td (TexasDarlin) blog. Based only on this chain of custody, that is, unnamed researcher->anonymous blogger->td blog->APFC, APFC now opined that this image they had thus obtained proved Obama was born in HI. Just to be clear, clicking on the fourth hand image on APFC did not bring me to the work of this “researcher” or, to the birth announcement page of the edition of the Honolulu Advertiser APFC claimed was printed on “Sunday, Aug. 13, 1961.” Instead, it took me back to the td blog.

    Yep; APFC claimed to authenticate Obama was born in HI with the use of an unauthenticated image of text they named “Obama’s birth announcement” only viewable through the aid of a computer screen.

    Well, since I first posted that article ‘outing’ APFC in August 2009, a couple of noteworthy changes have occurred. First, the Honolulu Advertiser is now the Honolulu Star-Advertiser. (The paper ceased publication in July 2010.)

    Second, APFC has amended that suspect link so that clicking on the image of that fake newspaper announcement posted on their blog now takes the reader not to the td blog but to the current front page of the recently formed Honolulu Star-Advertiser! (H/T azgo.)

    (APFC has posted several updates on that same page I referenced in my August 2009 expose. But, for some reason, while they note the date and reason for these other updates, they notably fail to mention they updated the link in the fake birth announcement image.)

    For those people who bother to verify such information, winding up at the site of the Honolulu Star-Advertiser would be enough to end their search and to assume the information posted on APFC was true. But we know better.

    If you try hard, you can find a link on the front page of the Honolulu Star-Advertiser to Archives from the old Honolulu Advertiser. However, this archive function only allows readers to trace articles back to 11.30.02. So, even if this fictional Obama birth announcement was real, readers still could not locate this birth announcement via the on-line Archives, anyway. If any birth announcements were published on Aug. 13, 1961, evidence of such publication might be found by researching microfiche or microfilm holdings of earlier publications. These could be ‘screen captured’ and posted on the APFC site. But they are not. (Maybe that’s because the State of HI Libraries keep no copies of the Honolulu Advertiser from way back then. http://www.state.hi.us/lrb/serials1/serialsh.html and http://ipac2.librarieshawaii.org:81/ipac20/ipac.jsp?session=129F790MT7494.375&menu=search&aspect=basic_search&npp=10&ipp=20&spp=20&profile=main&ri=1&source=~!comres_train&index=.NK&term=honolulu+advertiser&x=9&y=8&aspect=basic_search)

    So, it would seem even with their surreptitious tweaking, APFC again clearly intended to provide inquiring minds with no verifiable evidence the old Honolulu Advertiser carried a birth announcement for Barack Obama on Sunday, Aug. 13, 1961. On the contrary, if they had meant to support their claims with verifiable documentation, they could have given readers more information than just their word, now or the last time they pulled such tripe.

    Then again, why bother, when just their word was good enough to fool people the last time

  3. Richardson revelation-Obama is an immigrant

    Thanks Bill

  4. jbjd lectures the birthers. I left her a comment.

    © 2010 jbjd

    There are plenty of villains to go around in the pitiful saga of U.S. v. LTC Terrence Lakin, the physician convicted in a military court martial of violating the Uniform Code of Military Justice (“UCMJ”) for refusing to obey orders to deploy to Afghanistan. I would start with the numerous blogs which encouraged Mr. Lakin to disobey a direct order to report for duty and then hyperbolically deified him for heeding their advice. Equally reprehensible is their simultaneous vilification of the military court for prosecuting their sacrificial lamb.

    http://jbjd.org/2010/12/24/heroes-and-villains/comment-page-1/#comment-3442

  5. Much info today http://www.commieblaster.com Amazing America fooled BIG TIME

  6. With a new Presidential election now getting underway, we have a golden opportunity to help ourselves. Most ‘serious’ people think we are crackpots, conspiracy theorists, racists, sore losers, redneck rubes – or that simply put, we suffer from Obama Derangement Syndrome.

    The opportunity we have is to disprove most of these things and thereby give ourselves a tremendous boost in credibility.

    We need to start crying out – with equal enthusiasm – about the ineligibility of the likes of Jindal, Rubio, and Schwarzenegar (and maybe even McCain).

    We need to make it bloody clear and beyond doubt that we are foremost constitutionalists and patriots.

    I don’t know who pays for them or how to arrange it, but we all need to contribute to an ad in the Washington Times – like what they have been running about Obama Eligibility. How ’bout an ad with the same sort of message, same sort of overall design and artwork, but does not mention Obama at all. Just maybe the three indicated above?

    I strongly believe that one of the biggest reasons that The Left thinks they can get away with this is because they think The Right will want to take advantage of the precedent – therefore being ill disposed to complain too much now.

    So, again, the task falls squarely on us to complain!

  7. Kate at the”Dr. Kates view” blog sometimes does not post my comments I send there. I am hoping that “Dr. Kate” wants to bring a solution to the problem of having the ILLEGAL-ALIEN-IN-CHIEF SOEBARAKH removed through GOD and not only through human means, because this will not happen through human means alone since the world now is so fallen and so
    sinful against GOD, and is calling evil – good, and good – evil, and truth – lies, and lies – truth!! I am humbly trying to tell Kate and others, the 100% Solution to getting rid of and arresting the Foreign-Terrorist-Usurper, & 100% Illegal-Alien-Daily-Serial Criminal-Usurper-In-Chief, 100% Con-Man-Madman Barry Soetoro Soebarkah in the USA can & will ONLY happen through LORD JESUS CHRIST leading us to get him removed.

    Here is a comment I sent to Dr. Kate & she refused to post it at her blog…

    Dr. Kate said:

    “drkate
    December 23, 2010 at 5:52 pm

    Starla, thank you. All of what you have posted I agree with. Do you think people here don’t understand that? Just because God is not mentioned in every post as the solution doesn’t mean that He isn’t the solution! In other words, you are preaching to the choir, and the verbatim repeating of what you can easily link people to if they want to go there is really not appropriate for the posts I write and for the discussion that we are trying to engender. The discussion we have here is NOT Godless. You do not need to treat writers here as devoid of the Creator-God, we get it.”

    * * * * *

    Starla said:
    December 23, 2010 at 6:34 pm

    Kate,

    Not everyone who reads your blog is a Christian or knows GOD. Have you ever thought about that? Do you understand this?

    I personally love hearing about GOD everywhere and in everything!! GOD is perfect and people need GOD to lead every part of our lives, education, government, relationships & family, & every part of our careers & our lives.

    People in our government have thrown out & eliminated GOD who brings wisdom, virtues, morals, ethics, & truth to people – out of our government in America. This is the sad reality people are living in – in America. We The People can’t allow this. When you want to talk about solutions in America, We The People, you & I, & all Americans MUST talk about GOD.

    Truly, the PERFECT ALMIGHTY GOD can help Dr. Lakin’s life & case. GOD should be acknowledged everywhere & in everything, & then the solutions from GOD will become a living reality for people. GOD wants to solve the problems people have in the USA government, and in each of our lives, that is why I mention GOD, to give honor to GOD, and to let GOD lead us in life.

    I am reading a great book now called, THE NAMES OF GOD by Lester Sumrall. In this book, I am learning that GODS’ NAMES teach people to understand many things about GODS’ love, care, help, & providence. Unless you and I mention GOD, people won’t learn about this information, who do not know this information.

    I would wager that some people who read this blog who are Christians do not know the extent of what GOD’S VARIOUS NAMES in the Holy Bible mean in GODS’ LOVE & CARE FOR US. I hope people read this great book, both Christians, and people who aren’t Christians yet. That is why I mention GOD THE HEALER, and GOD THE SOLUTION everywhere I can.

    * * * * * *

    I hope people read this great book, THE NAMES OF GOD, by Lester Sumrall! What a very helpful and excellent book to read!

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  9. Re: Pixel Patriot | December 27, 2010 at 2:36 pm |

    Richardson revelation-Obama is an immigrant

    # # # #

    Thank you Pixel Patriot. Here is more evidence regarding the DAILY SERIAL CRIMES being committed against ALL Americans by the Daily Serial Criminal, 100% Illegal Alien Con-man Usurper, Foreign Terrorist Usurper Barry Soetoro SOEBARKAH who should be ARRESTED IMMEDIATELY TODAY in the USA!

    Americans, Please Let GOD will lead us in GOD’S PERFECT TRUTH & HOLINESS. The USA needs GOD to lead ALL Americans in repentance and in TRUTH back to Forever Truth, Righteousness, Justice, Purity, Wisdom, Virtues, Ethics, & GOD’S FOREVER LOVE in GODS’ POWER today.

    LORD JESUS CHRIST is sending many Severe Warnings of GOD to many different Christian servants of GOD around the the world today that say that the USA and other nations citizens will receive terrible chastisements due to humans not turning back to obey GOD on earth, and because the United States citizens are not repenting of sins against GOD, and are not leading lives of daily prayers, & daily repentance of sins, & daily atonement & sacrifice, & penance & service to GOD for our sins against GOD! That is why I am telling everyone Please – Come Back To GOD Immediately On earth!! ALL Americans – Turn back to GOD now on earth!!

    ALL Americans, Please simply come back to GOD now & Repent of any sins against GOD & humanity now, anyone may have!! Let GOD lead us now. GOD will lead Americans to have & to get the 100% Illegal Alien Foreign Terrorist Usurper Barry Soetoro SOEBARKAH arrested in the USA, when people turn back to GOD in the USA. Then The Daily Serial Criminal Barry Soetoro SOEBARKAH’S 100% evil & 100% Illegal Alien Con-Man reign of his Daily 100% Serial Crimes on earth will be stopped by the Hand Of ALMIGHTY GOD. – IN LORD JESUS CHRIST’S HOLY NAME.

  10. RE: Starla | December 27, 2010 at 3:56 pm |

    Thanks Starla,
    I always enjoy your words of wisdom. Keep on fighting the good fight.

    Our Father, which art in heaven,
    hallowed be thy name;
    thy kingdom come;
    thy will be done,
    in earth as it is in heaven.
    Give us this day our daily bread.
    And forgive us our trespasses,
    as we forgive them that trespass against us.
    And lead us not into temptation;
    but deliver us from evil.
    For thine is the kingdom,
    the power, and the glory,
    for ever and ever.
    Amen.

    THE ARMOR OF GOD
    Ephesians 6:10-18
    10 Finally, be strong in the Lord and in his mighty power. 11 Put on the full armor of God, so that you can take your stand against the devil’s schemes. 12 For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms. 13 Therefore put on the full armor of God, so that when the day of evil comes, you may be able to stand your ground, and after you have done everything, to stand. 14 Stand firm then, with the belt of truth buckled around your waist, with the breastplate of righteousness in place, 15 and with your feet fitted with the readiness that comes from the gospel of peace. 16 In addition to all this, take up the shield of faith, with which you can extinguish all the flaming arrows of the evil one. 17 Take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God.

  11. “SOROS GROUP WANTS OBAMA TO RULE BY EXECUTIVE ORDER” – BY DECREE

    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=225829

    * * * * * * * * * *

    “70 AVOWED SOCIALISTIN U.S. CONGRESS”
    DSA LISTS MEMBERS OF THE 111TH SESSION –

    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=191605

    * * * * * * * * * *

    “CITIZEN SOROS’ NOW TARGETING MESSENGER”

    http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=243169

    * * * * * * * * * *

    AMERICANS, MUST DEMAND THE IMMEDIATE ARRESTS of the 100% Terrorist Enemy Combatant Of War, George Soros, and have him put in an American criminal trial for committing Massive Daily Anti-American attacks of War, and Anti-American activities against ALL American citizens, and AMERICANS MUST DAILY CONSTANTLY PRAY TO GOD, in the HOLY NAME OF YESHUA – LORD JESUS CHRIST, AND DAILY CONSTANTLY WORK AND DEMAND THE IMMEDIATELY ARREST of the 100% FOREIGN ILLEGAL ALIEN TERRORIST USURPER, Barry Soetoro SOEBARAKAH, tht is working with Soros and whom Soros is giving direct CRIMINAL orders to!!

    The Daily Serial Criminals Barry Soetoro SOEBARAKH & George Soros are breaking massive ammounts of laws from A to Z in the USA!! WE MUST ARREST THEM IMMEDIATELY together with everyone who is giving aid to and abetting their MASSIVE SERIAL CRIMES that these OBVIOUSLY Sinful & Deranged Mafia Con-Man are committing in the USA!!

    AMERICANS, WE MUST GO FORWARD TOGETHER IN CONSTANT TRUST & IN CONSTANT FAITH OPENLY DAILY EVERYWHERE IN GOD THE SAVIOR – LORD JESUS CHRIST!! CHRISTIANS CAN & WILL PREVAIL IN THE USA, & EVERYWHERE ON EARTH — ONLY THROUGH LORD JESUS CHRIST – GOD ALMIGHTY~!
    THE JEWISH SAVIOR OF HUMANITY!!

  12. MSNBC doing story about Obama’s birth certificate right now.

  13. Did I just see Chris Mathews asking to see Obama’s long form birth certificate?

  14. >>>bob strauss | December 27, 2010 at 2:56 pm |
    jbjd lectures the birthers. I left her a comment.<<<

    I think Jbjd is trying to show a legal point of view. Since I am not legally trained, I can not argue with her in this respect. The point that is lost on all lawyers, and I believe will be the destruction of the United States. My point is that if simple laws become so opacified and obtuse, and the path to justice becomes deliberately and intentionally obstructed by the justice system itself, the end of a republic based upon law is near or already here. Obama isn't in the Oval office because of a working Justice system, no, he is in place because of a broken legal system, SCOTUS, and Congress as well as states whom don't enforce their own laws. Selective enforcement of laws, and 'obstructing' truth and justice isn't a game, it's a road for dictatorship and tyrants.
    Pete

  15. John Hammer was in rare form for this December 21, 2010, “Under the Hammer” article
    in the Rhinoceros Times.

    https://citizenwells.com/2010/12/27/rhinoceros-times-december-21-2010-under-the-hammer-john-hammer/

  16. Sorry for my typos. I have a sensitive keyboard that posts things before I press “send!” : )!

    “SOROS GROUP WANTS OBAMA TO RULE BY EXECUTIVE ORDER” – BY DECREE

    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=225829

    * * * * * * * * * *

    “70 AVOWED SOCIALISTIN U.S. CONGRESS”
    DSA LISTS MEMBERS OF THE 111TH SESSION –

    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=191605

    * * * * * * * * * *

    “CITIZEN SOROS’ NOW TARGETING MESSENGER”

    http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=243169

    * * * * * * * * * *

    AMERICANS, MUST DEMAND THE IMMEDIATE ARRESTS of the 100% Terrorist Declared Enemy of the USA, & the 100% Enemy Combatant Of War Against the United States Of America, George Soros, and have him charged and put on trial in an American criminal trial for committing Massive Daily Anti-American ATTACKS OF WAR against the USA Sovereignty, against the USA National Security & against the USA Economy, that he is working behind the scenes to overthrow & destroy with Soetoro!!! George Soros & Barry Soetoro Soebarkah are massive Daily Serial Criminals in the USA who dwarf the crimes of Bernie Madoff and they MUST BE ARRESTED & STOPPED from committing their crimes in the USA!! It is very simple! ARREST THESE DAILY SERIAL THUGS!!

    GEORGE SOROS MUST BE ARRESTED IN THE USA FOR committing ILLEGAL Anti-American activities against ALL American citizens!!
    AND AMERICANS MUST DAILY CONSTANTLY PRAY TO GOD DAILY, in the HOLY NAME OF YESHUA – LORD JESUS CHRIST DAILY EVERYWHERE TO ACCOMPLISH THIS.

    AMERICANS MUST DAILY CONSTANTLY WORK & DAILY CONSTANTLY DEMAND THE IMMEDIATE ARREST of the 100% FOREIGN ILLEGAL ALIEN TERRORIST USURPER, Barry Soetoro SOEBARAKAH, who is working together with the fallen great sinner & atheist George Soros.

    Americans, George Soros is literally daily aiding & abetting the Daily Serial Crimes of the 100% Illegal Alien Usurper Barry Soetoro SOEBARKAH. The Atheist Narcissist, Anti-Christ Soci0path, Daily Serial Criminal George Soros is giving his direct SINFUL & CRIMINAL orders to the Insane Narcissist, Sociopath, Delusional, Anti-Christ, Constantly Lying Psychopath, 100% Serial Criminal Usurper Barry Soetoro SOEBARKAH to destroy the USA from within.

    Americans, BOTH Soetoro & Soros are fight against GOD on earth in their sinful & evil deeds & words, and they are both serving the Great Deceiver, the father of all liars & the father of evil & death, Satan, the devil. Their Daily Serial Crimes against humanity & ALL Americans will show you this clearly.

    AMERICANS, ALL of this is being done 100% CRIMINALLY & 100% ILLEGALLY in the USA!! Do We The People NEED TO PUT up with this and accept these CRIMES OF HUMANITY that the Daily Serial Criminal, Barry Soetoro SOEBARKAH & George Soros are doing to us?!! No, these Serial Criminals MUST be simply Arrested in the USA for their crimes they are committing in the USA – through LORD JESUS CHRIST LEADING US – We The People can get the Daily Serial Criminals Barry Soetoro SOEBARAKH & George Soros arrested in the USA and stopped from committing THEIR Daily Massive Serial Criminal – Daily Crime Wave from A to Z in the USA!!

    WE MUST ARREST THEM IMMEDIATELY together with Everyone who is giving aid to and abetting their MASSIVE SERIAL CRIMES that the OBVIOUSLY Sinful, Deranged Anti-Christ – New World Order/One World Government – Mafia – Satanic, Con-Man, Serial Criminals are committing in the USA!!

    AMERICANS, WE MUST GO FORWARD TOGETHER IN CONSTANT TRUST & IN CONSTANT FAITH OPENLY DAILY EVERYWHERE IN GOD THE SAVIOR – LORD JESUS CHRIST!!

    CHRISTIAN SERVANTS OF LORD JESUS CHRIST CAN & WILL PREVAIL IN THE USA & EVERYWHERE ON EARTH …. ONLY IN, BY, THROUGH & WITH LORD JESUS CHRIST- YESHUA – WHO IS GOD ALMIGHTY, THE JEWISH SAVIOR OF HUMANITY leading us. Americans Daily Live Constant Trust in Lord Jesus Christ in Daily Constant Prayers to LORD JESUS CHRIST, & Daily Live Constant Works of Virtuous Love & Virtuous Actions in Everything & Everywhere while LORD JESUS CHRIST WILL LEAD US – TO TRIUMPH OVER & ARREST ALL of the CRIMINAL ENEMIES of the Faithful & True Christian USA American people, through ALMIGHTY GOD, LORD JESUS CHRIST – YESHUA – THE SAVIOR LEADING US!! LORD JESUS CHRIST ALWAYS IS THE WINNER & ALWAYS WINS & CONQUERS!!

    WE THE PEOPLE Simply Will NOT & CANNOT FAIL when We The People
    are Daily Faithful To, Daily Obey, Daily Trust, & Daily Follow – LORD JESUS CHRIST WHO IS & WHO WANTS TO LEAD US ON EARTH 24/7/365 UNTIL HE RETURNS IN HIS SECOND COMING WHICH IS SOON!!!!!

  17. Can someone find the Chris Mathews video from today’s show and post it here. This is as close as I have ever seen CNN going after Obama’s long form. If you haven’t seen it hopefully someone will post it.

  18. Re: Pixel Patriot | December 27, 2010 at 4:15 pm

    Our Father, which art in heaven,
    hallowed be thy name;
    thy kingdom come;
    thy will be done,
    in earth as it is in heaven.
    Give us this day our daily bread.
    And forgive us our trespasses,
    as we forgive them that trespass against us.
    And lead us not into temptation;
    but deliver us from evil.
    For thine is the kingdom,
    the power, and the glory,
    for ever and ever.
    Amen.

    THE ARMOR OF GOD
    Ephesians 6:10-18
    10 Finally, be strong in the Lord and in his mighty power. 11 Put on the full armor of God, so that you can take your stand against the devil’s schemes. 12 For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms. 13 Therefore put on the full armor of God, so that when the day of evil comes, you may be able to stand your ground, and after you have done everything, to stand. 14 Stand firm then, with the belt of truth buckled around your waist, with the breastplate of righteousness in place, 15 and with your feet fitted with the readiness that comes from the gospel of peace. 16 In addition to all this, take up the shield of faith, with which you can extinguish all the flaming arrows of the evil one. 17 Take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God.

    * * * * * * * * * *

    Pixel Patriot, How Beautifully Well Said. LORD JESUS CHRIST – YESHUA is the WORD OF GOD. LORD JESUS CHRIST – YESHUA – IS TRULY GOD ALMIGHTY & THE SAVIOR OF HUMANITY, in the FROEVER LIVING CREATOR – who is GOD THE MOST HOLY TRINITY!

    That is WHY We The People MUST Come Back & Stand With LORD JESUS CHRIST and Daily ALLOW LORD JESUS CHRIST to lead this spiritual battle We The People are currently in – to get the criminals in the USA arrested and removed from among us before they destroy and tear down the USA & us from within!!

    Moses & Abraham believed in CHRIST JESUS – YESHUA – THE LORD ALMIGHTY GOD and He lead them! YESHUA – LORD JESUS CHRIST is More Than Ready, Willing & Able with Infinite Power to LEAD US TOO! ALL we have to do is Constantly Daily Trust GOD, Constantly Daily Obey GOD, Constantly Daily Love GOD, and Constantly Be Daily Faithful & True to GOD, and Daily Pray to GOD to make our requests known to HIM, and GOD will LEAD US & ACT!! GOD Promises this in the HOLY BIBLE! In the Holy Name Of YESHUA – LORD JESUS CHRIST!

    I’ve seen Heaven & Hell in eternity, and LORD JESUS CHRIST and the VIRGIN MARY, OUR LADY, and so I stand with LORD JESUS CHRIST completely and I trust LORD JESUS CHRIST completely.

  19. Pete, yes you are right, the “democrats” have always made an attempt to sidestep every law on the books that interfere with their quest to overthrow our Constitution, all while trying to convince the people that their way is better. I believe the Constitution was written to keep the democrats from imposing their ways on the populace.

  20. MUST READ THIS GREAT ARTICLE!! WE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE MUST DO THIS WORK TOGETHER WITH DAILY PRAYERS TO LORD JESUS CHRIST!!

    Reprinted By Permission From:
    The Post Email, Inc.

    http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/12/25/january-1-2011-lt-col-lakin-day/

    “JANUARY 1, 2011: LT. COL. LAKIN DAY
    CITIZENS: STAND UP FOR THE CONSTITUTION”

    By Neil Turner

    “(Dec. 25, 2010) — “With the privilege and honor of knowing of, swearing to, and living under our Constitution, comes the responsibility and duty of defending, maintaining and adhering to it.”

    Obama has admitted to ineligibility[1] and has been found guilty of Treason[2] to the Constitution.

    That means that all executive orders issued and bills signed by him are NULL and VOID, and that every order given as Commander in Chief (ALL military orders originate there) are UNLAWFUL.

    All who honor their oath and/or commitment to the Supreme Law of the Land, the Constitution of the United States, are now being asked to join me and millions of other patriotic Americans on:

    LTC LAKIN DAY – January 1, 2011

    to

    STAND UP FOR THE CONSTITUTION

    STAND DOWN FROM ALL UNLAWFUL ORDERS

    … unless Barack Hussein Obama, as the de facto Commander in Chief, PROVES that he can give anything other than UNLAWFUL ORDERS.*

    Who has been affected by UNLAWFUL (Presidential) Executive Orders and Bills, and UNLAWFUL (Commander in Chief) ORDERS?

    2nd AMENDMENTERS
    AIR TRAVELERS
    AMERICAN LEGIONNAIRES
    CITIZENS MILITIAS
    CONSTITUTIONALISTS/CONSTITUTION PARTY
    MILITARY (everyone on active duty – officers & enlisted alike)
    OATH KEEPERS
    SENIOR CITIZENS
    TAXPAYERS
    TEA PARTIERS
    VETERANS

    Anyone who is living under or sworn to the Constitution, fill in your organization or your name here: ________________)

    That means that the 60% of Americans (~180 million, including over a million active duty personnel) who say that they ‘have doubts’ about the ability of the putative President and Commander in Chief, Barack Hussein Obama/Barry Soetoro (using the stolen SS# 042-68-4425) to issue anything other than unlawful orders should now commit publicly – to their friends, their blogs, their newspapers, their congress-members, their ‘superior’ officers – that on January 1, 2011 they are prepared to:

    STAND UP FOR THE CONSTITUTION

    STAND DOWN FROM ALL UNLAWFUL ORDERS

    Make this your Number One resolution of the New Year on:

    LTC LAKIN DAY – January 1, 2011”

    Continue To Read The Full Article Here:
    http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/12/25/january-1-2011-lt-col-lakin-day/

  21. bob strauss | December 27, 2010 at 5:07 pm |

    MSNBC doing story about Obama’s birth certificate right now.
    ___________________________________________

    RATINGS – RATINGS – RATINGS

    If we all start watching MSNBC now and they see their ratings go up they will keep trying the subject of “eligibility” again.
    I know how they think.
    Remember Howard Beale in “Network”

  22. ms.helga, I only watch msnbc long enough to learn about information I can use against them, such as Mathews latest story about Obama’s long form birth certificate. Most times I don’t even go there for fear I will be included to raise in their ratings.

  23. ms.helga, Know thy enemy.

  24. The story is spreading widely. Mentioning the AG and the HD means something is afoot.
    Fox Ch 9 Twin Cities:
    “Newly-elected Governor Neil Abercrombie told the New York Times and the Chicago Tribune that he is already talking to state officials, including the attorney general and director of the Health Department, about the possibility of releasing more information in the hope of putting the issue to rest.

    “Abercrombie, who was friends with Obama’s parents told the Chicago Tribune, “What bothers me is that some people who should know better are trying to use this for political reasons,” he said. “Maybe I’m the only one in the country that could look you right in the eye right now and tell you, ‘I was here when that baby was born.'”

  25. Bill G | December 27, 2010 at 6:30 pm |

    “Abercrombie, who was friends with Obama’s parents told the Chicago Tribune, “What bothers me is that some people who should know better are trying to use this for political reasons,” he said. “Maybe I’m the only one in the country that could look you right in the eye right now and tell you, ‘I was here when that baby was born.’”
    ******************************
    Bill G, I wonder if Abercommie was guided by a star? I hate liars, they are so transparent it makes me nauseous.

  26. Just chiming in to say,

    Merry Christmas, Patriots! Blessings, Peace, Joy ! to you and yours all throughout this Season. 2011 is upon us.

    Happy New Year!

    We’re smarter and stronger to carry on because we have learned so much. So make it a good one; stay healthy and strong.

    Which makes me ask Abercrombie,

    Whilst you were There when The Baby was born, were you friends with Frank Marshall Davis, also? Did you see him at social events as well?

    Check this out, it all fits together. Looks like a great book.

    ~ It all makes sense.

    Dupe should be a national movement. Rise up, stop being duped. They’re duping us everyday.

    But not us, thank Goodness. 🙂

    Its a pleasure to visit this site. Its a gift.

  27. Bill G | December 27, 2010 at 6:30 pm |
    bob strauss | December 27, 2010 at 6:36 pm |
    Papoose | December 27, 2010 at 6:57 pm |

    Hi Bill, Bob, and Papoose,

    As a few of the other posters have said, I think we can smell a long-form birth certificate ready for the presses, and Abercrombie will be the author. Will wait with great anticipation for the ‘shoot down’ of this one, too.

    No matter what they pull it will be disproved, just as the COLB was. The more they cover up, more Americans are questioning WTH is going on every day.

    With such an intricate cover-up in motion, some useless idiot will stumble and say (or print) something they shouldn’t. The clock is ticking…

    Only a matter of time before this web of lies is revealed.

    BTW, Drudge is reporting that Barky went to *church* on his vacation and actually received Holy Communion! I believe it’s a mortal sin for a Muslim to receive the Body of Christ (on both ends). I’m surprised that the church, the Host, and the entire congregation didn’t ignite when he pulled that little maneuver.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101226/ap_on_go_ot/us_obama_church

  28. If Acromblire thinks “PATRIOT AMERICANS”BELIEVE HIS CRAP ON SEEING THE BABY BORN,THEN HE MUST THINK WE ARE ALL
    IDIOTS!!!! IF CRISSSY BOY MATTHEWS THINKS WE BELIEVE HIS QUESTIONING OC NBC ,FOR REALLY GOOG PURPOSES—NOT TO STIR THE POT –TO GET THE PEOPLE STARTED—-THEN WHAT A FOOLS—HE MUST THINK WE ARE.
    They must listen to their leader SOETORO AND HIS LEADER SOROS.
    This thing gets “MESSIER” and crazier every day !!!!!!!!!!!
    “GOD BLESS AMERICA==EVERY DAY”

  29. Libs would NOT be asking release of ANYTHING unless they forsee or are experiencing major problems…………………
    Just saying…………..

  30. “Libs would NOT be asking release of ANYTHING unless they forsee or are experiencing major problems…………………”

    You are correct. As I have been alluding–I do have an outstanding UIPA request out for all of Obama’s vital records and I was given guidance by the Ms. Takase that they MUST be disclosed under two laws. These are facts. The records are coming–but I am sure Abercrombie would rather drive the story than ‘some blogger.’

  31. IF IT SHOWS UP NOW>>>>> i am not hollering, just pronouncing:
    ~~ its way too late.

    keep your ear to the underground. (its on MSMBC, unfortunately.)
    ~~~
    Communists> Muslamics > Mexicans > Russians > North Koreans, The UN> Reparations for American Ugliness > Blah > Blah

    blah C H I C A G O
    excuse me, whoops.

    check out Hill Buzz great stuff on the Young Republicans…and what’s to come. More of the same, just up-to-date and what has been going on. Chicago, the DC inhabitants residing in the windy city.

    No wonder Michael Steele could not concentrate on any given day.

    Where is Tony Rezko, and what’s the hold up with his sentencing?
    McVeigh is dead. Lakin’s in Leavenworth, Rahm is a resident. Bin Laden has had 37 more children…

    Blago Who? Clinton’s coming again.

    Washington, IL, District of Chicago

  32. Observer | December 27, 2010 at 8:13 pm |

    Chris Matthews Asks Obama to Release Birth Certificate

    http://www.breitbart.tv/chris-matthews-asks-obama-to-release-birth-certificate/
    **********************************
    Observer, Thanks for posting the video. I can’t believe how these people adulterate the meaning of “natural born Citizen”, reducing them to the level of an “anchor baby”, all while refusing to mention Barack sr was not a citizen of this country, and his children became British citizens upon their birth..

  33. From SueK’s link @ 8:57 pm:

    “I believe that Obama is a citizen. No, he hasn’t released his birth certificate, but the evidence up to and including contemporary birth announcements and testimony from the doctor that gave him birth is overwhelming. Obama’s a citizen, as far as I’m concerned, but Matthews asks an eminently reasonable question: “Why has the president himself not demanded they put out the original documents?””
    ======================
    “… testimony from the doctor that gave him birth …”

    That’s a new one. But this is the “SayAnythingBlog.com”.

  34. bob strauss | December 27, 2010 at 9:09 pm |

    Ya, Bob, that’s my question: If two illegal alien parents jumped the border and had their anchor baby in America, then that child could be President? According to the libs’ twisted definition, because the child was *born* in America, then everything’s A-OK.

    I’d love to ask Mr. Tingles that specific question.

    Flawed logic; brainwashed morons; Constitution-ignorant idiots.

  35. missstickly,
    Are you expecting to receive a long form birth certificate from DOH? What vital records are you thinking you will receive?

  36. This is such a joke. We all have known that they have been working on a long form BC since we started questioning the legitimacy of that shameless COLB. So here they come, just begging, screaming to see the long form…..and voila it will magically appear. He’s there right now just smoothing out the edges. Screw all of them!

  37. This could be what is being pushed AGAIN:

    From snopes:

    “I may be the only person left who specifically remembers his birth. His
    parents are gone, his grandmother is gone, the obstetrician who delivered
    him is gone,” said Nelson, referring to Dr. Rodney T. West, who died in
    February at the age of 98. Here’s the story: Nelson was having dinner at the
    Outrigger Canoe Club on Waikiki Beach with Dr. West, the father of her
    college friend, Jo-Anne. Making conversation, Nelson turned to Dr. West and
    said: “So, tell me something interesting that happened this week,” she
    recalls.
    His response: “Well, today, Stanley had a baby. Now that’s something to
    write home about.”
    The new mother was Stanley (later referred to by her middle name of Ann)
    Dunham, and the baby was Barack Hussein Obama.
    “I penned the name on a napkin, and I did write home about it,” said Nelson,
    knowing that her father, Stanley A. Czurles, director of the Art Education
    Department at Buffalo State College, would be interested in the “Stanley”
    connection.
    She also remembers Dr. West mentioning that the baby’s father was the first
    black student at the University of Hawaii and how taken he was by the
    baby’s name.
    “I remember Dr. West saying ‘Barack Hussein Obama, now that’s a musical
    name,'” said Nelson.”

    http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthcertificate.asp

  38. misstickly,
    I saw your Epiphany post. If the seal on the 2nd COLB is BS per the DOH, how will anyone explain that away?

    If there are two laws on the books in Hawaii that say they must release vital records, why did it take so long via the UIPA? I thought Donofrio went over those UIPAs last year and the DOH said they could not release. What changed? Or did you finally manage to ask the right questions? Sorry, this is very confusing.

  39. Also how will Tim Adams fit into this story? He was sticking to the story that it was common knowledge at DOH that there was no long form from Hawaii.

  40. HonorFirst | December 27, 2010 at 9:23 pm |

    This is such a joke. We all have known that they have been working on a long form BC since we started questioning the legitimacy of that shameless COLB. So here they come, just begging, screaming to see the long form…..and voila it will magically appear. He’s there right now just smoothing out the edges. Screw all of them!
    *********************************
    After Obama spent 2 million in legal fees to keep his vital records secret we are supposed to believe he has had a change of heart, and will now bust out his long form certificate?

  41. Bob Strauss….yeah, such a friggin joke. Now, let’s see, will the real birth certificate please stand up???

  42. Hey CW – you fight with words, which is great! How about setting up a YouTube channel and fighting with “live” interviews to overcome the tidal wave of disinfo heading the birthers way?

    Please, you are fighting with the big boys with a small blog and words. Ratchet the machine up and take them all on. We know you can do it along with your supporters SO do it!

    If you don’t take them on in such a way, fold up your tent and go home. Leave it to those who are willing to step up and take the establishment on. Take my word for it, CW, you have the support and it will buoy you.

    Do a show live here at your blog everyday at a such and such a time. You have given sooooooo much time and effort to this basic issue, which is THE ISSUE, for so long now that you are the one to take these yahoos on. You know the lay of the land and who the real truthers are, so do everyone a favor and ratchet your efforts up. We need you!!!

  43. Will it be from the DOH, or will it be that thing obama found in his granny’s shoe box or will it be another internet masterpiece. Oh, the suspense is just killing me……….NOT! This stinks like all the rest of the crap they’ve been slinging.

    Oh and by the way, I firmly believe that the START program is nothing more than blackmail by the Russians. Remember the passport incident with obama, lugar and the other senators? This is exactly what the Founding Fathers warned against.

  44. “I thought Donofrio went over those UIPAs last year and the DOH said they could not release. What changed? Or did you finally manage to ask the right questions? Sorry, this is very confusing.”

    Yeah, I thought Leo looked them over properly, too. It took a year for me to figure out what Linden Joesting’s letter really meant–her letter stated that I was improperly denied by the HDOH and Obama’s records were authorized to be disclosed under a provision of the UIPA. That’s the letter that Leo *uh* helped me with. At the time, I was advised by someone at the OIP to take her letter to the Legal Aid office in the city in which I live, rather than allow Leo to handle my request. Now I understand why I was advised to do that.

    And yes, I am only now figuring out the right questions to ask. And to have the answers put on the record. Guidance from the OIP can be used in court, so they can and will give a person good guidance.

    Linden Joesting made it perfectly clear back then that I was improperly denied access by HDOH. But, I am trying to hold off on my whole story until my appeal has been ruled on by the OIP. The last thing I want to do is put needless and unhelpful pressure on the OIP. I intend to explain further in detail. And it will be plain as day when I do. I am so sorry I have to drag my feet, but geez if i haven’t found myself playing some dumb, political game. For now, I don’t have any problem saying that I was totally scammed by Leo Donofrio. He screwed me over big and it almost cost me the statute of limitations to bring judicial action in Hawaii.

    Who knows what else these ‘lawyers’ have been doing to their clients who trust them?

  45. jc-
    Tim Adams’ story fits with what I know from the accumulation of requests I’ve made.

  46. Sounds like Tim Adams can provide some credible witness information, but we just have to see what’s in the vault. You know, Neil, the paper that NO ONE has access to. Cert number is sequence with BCs on that day and time. Doctor’s name and Hospital displayed. No touching until the world is watching with cameras rolling.

    Come on, Neil, if you think we are going to believe that you or barry have miraculously come up with a long form and have proclaimed that it is real, you are really full of it!

    You want to make this all go away? Get barry to sign a form and open up the vault so DOH can finally put this to rest for We The People. Until then, everything that is happening is unconstitutional and illegal. AND WE ALL KNOW IT!

    Hurry Neil, time is running out for you and your slime party hacks.

  47. jc-

    Also, as I stated at my blog, you will not find what I thought were my appeal rulings from 2009 at the OIP website. The OIP would not go on record denying access to those records. Because the law says the have to be disclosed.

    The only request for his records that was denied on appeal was the person who said they were related to him through Adam and Eve.=)

    So anyone else who mad ea request last year and thought they were denied access is mistaken, too. We were not denied access by the OIP, only the HDOH.

    http://www.state.hi.us/oip/informal%20opinion%20summaries%20list.htm

  48. TerriK. Interesting they brought up the seal requests in that article. Something and somebody are worried.

  49. “Come on, Neil, if you think we are going to believe that you or barry have miraculously come up with a long form and have proclaimed that it is real, you are really full of it!”

    I think Neil has effed himself. He backed away from his statement about being there when “that baby was born.” He revised his claim to just having seen the baby at social events.

    He backed away from his statement for a reason, not that the new story did his credibility any favors…

    It’s a good sign that he backed away, IMO.

  50. Miss Tickly – welcome to the Club made up of those of us who figured out long ago these atty’s have never been truthful and forthright with those of us who simply want the truth. Only two, and I mean only two, have been forthright and honest from the beginning to now – Apuzzo and jbjd. That’s it!

    Now, CW, I just watched the odd looking man who is going to “play” Gubernor of Hawaii. Hello! This man is an unadulterated LIAR. You have got to put the heat up strategically and I don’t know who is advising you at this juncture, but I can tell you that you need a political strategists ear; and a damned good one.

    Why? B/c you know where the skeletons are buried plus you know who you can count on to support you and their work. You know who these “truthers” are and you have a relationship with them. Thus, you need to think “big boy” and much bigger than you’ve been thinking (maybe you have but you haven’t made that “click” yet – let me assure you this is your “click”).

    Seriously, CW, not blowing smoke.

  51. Paxson–

    It was interesting. Especially that it was Ms. Takase who has given me great advice, ruled in my favor and has been very forthcoming with the truth.

    I wonder why she was interviewed in that not-so-vicious article. I wrote the author of the article. For some reason, i don’t get a terrible vibe from him.

    Perplexing is a good word for some of the requests and questions I have posed. Usually they would spin it to be ‘convoluted’ or something derogatory. This guy didn’t and Cathy Takase gave me some good info that I was waiting for in that brief interview. Maybe I am reading too much into it, but there was info that I needed from her in there.=)

    I am sure someone will slap me down, but I believe a lot of what we see going on right now has to do with my request on appeal–and maybe a bit on that seal, too.

    Ms. Takase seemed to be baiting people to at least go check out this seal that was requested online by a female “blogger.”

    Ya know? She sure didn’t hurt the cause. I really like Ms. Takase. She’s awesome. She knows all my dumb aliases and I told her upfront it’s because I feel like a dumbass sending a bunch of requests under one name. Birther spin–it’s toxic and makes a person feel stoopid.=) (not that we are)

  52. “Miss Tickly – welcome to the Club made up of those of us who figured out long ago these atty’s have never been truthful and forthright with those of us who simply want the truth.”

    Helen, I needed to hear someone say this. THANK YOU.

  53. Chris got his two progressive commentators to agree the Gov or Zero should release the long form BC. Even if only to discredit birthers; this is progress. Note Chris also asked if the short form COLB was sufficient apply for employment with the CIA….OT but an interesting question.

  54. And I don’t discredit the fact that a nbc requires two parents which has been Leo’s largest point. So there’s that in Leo’s favor.

  55. “The only request for his records that was denied on appeal was the person who said they were related to him through Adam and Eve.=)”

    Say…maybe the OIP knows that Obama was born from a jackal….perhaps…jk

  56. Also, I requested HARD copies of Obama’s records. None of this online/photogrpah/scan garbage. If it has a fake seal, I want it in person. SO it can be presented in court for someone who needs it. Like Lakin.

    Or if it has a real seal, it needs to be a physical copy. So a judge can rule on what NBC is.

    It’s got to be a real copy. Not an electronic copy. And they ARE public records–physical or electronic.

    I an going for the gold though.

  57. And I don’t discredit the fact that a nbc requires two parents which has been Leo’s largest point. So there’s that in Leo’s favor.
    msstickly, thanks for keeping this in the mix. We know so little and there could be some surprises. His story may be weirder than many imagine. Possible other parents are not outside the realm of possibility. He may have been born NBC and lost it when adopted Indonesian. We just do not know anything, except that he has committed fraud on the American people. As for me, I believe he is not a US Citizen, hence the extraordinary effort to hide all records, the illegally obtained SSN’s and falsified SSS registration.
    Thanks for your hard work on behalf of all citizens who love our Constitution!

  58. Georgetown
    And Chris Matthews thinks that 20% of the population can be obliterated and utterly ignored for one big eared piece o’ poop.

  59. There are a whole lot of us who have decided to focus on issues that are affecting us in the here and now, but that doesn’t translate into an abandonment of this core issue. It simply means that baiters came onto the scene whose intent was to distract us and well, we lost all desire to keep up with their false front.

    Stay focused Miss Tickly. Do not let anyone take you off course. Trust that gut of yours…intuition always wins…and know we paid attention and read and saved many of your posts with your initial blog. We are paying attention. We’re just not willing to jostle but we will come to your defense and will continue to support you and your work.

    Stick to it, my friend. There are few of you left and we need to figure out how to elevate all of you so as to make this effort a vocation that compensates all of you full time to do the heavy lifting we are all in full support.

  60. Chris is blah, blah, blah and he shills for the TPTB which includes this odd looking man from Hawaii…Abercrombie.

  61. Wow, hard copies. What law makes you think these are forthcoming?

    Did Ms. Takase say or do anything to make you think these records had to be released to you?

  62. Helen, We are all in this together and that’s what I hear you saying. I need you guys so thanks. I may have to be that blogger that says–they are ignoring me, time to pummel them with requests they cannot ignore. Yeah, I guess the media may have me there.

    Birthers are an amazing testament to the power of people working together. For example, I love this piece from obamafile: http://www.theobamafile.com/_eligibility/AbercrombieLiar.htm

    And the people at WTPOTUS. Especially Renee, she’s so diligent in her genealogical studies. And of course Lakin.

    Everyone has found a piece of the puzzle. It give me goosebumps. It moves me. It touches my heart. Ya know? We are making this happen. We will. Now…10, 20, 30 years from now. WE will have our say in history even if Obama temporarily cripples our nation with his selfish ambition (and hidden agenda).

    Despite the partisan spin put on this issue, personally I have never felt more at home than I have with conservative birthers.

    It’s great you saved my old blog work, unfortunately I had just begun and a lot of it seems so silly now. But, I guess everyone has to start somewhere…=)

    But thank you Helen. Sometimes I just need that common sense woman-voice in my head telling me what’s what. Your words fit the bill.

  63. Misstickly,
    Public records? How so?

  64. “Did Ms. Takase say or do anything to make you think these records had to be released to you?”

    Yes. She did. She said that both the laws I cited authorized disclosure with NO EXCEPTIONS.

    I intend to post her exact statements. But for now, she would have to disagree with her own written guidance to deny my appeal.=)

  65. The two laws are these:

    1.) http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol02_Ch0046-0115/HRS0092F/HRS_0092F-0012.htm

    HRS§92F-12(15): “Disclosure required. (a) Any other provision in this chapter to the contrary notwithstanding, each agency shall make available for public inspection and duplication during regular business hours:

    (15) Information collected and maintained for the purpose of making information available to the general public”

    I refer to Dr. Fukino’s 7/27/2009 statement about the “vital records” she viewed verifying that President Obama is a “natural-born citizen.” http://hawaii.gov/health/about/pr/2009/09-063.pdf

    Note: The OIP has concluded that information collected for the purpose of making information available to the general public need not be maintained for that reason. The word “and” is disjunctive in this context. In fact, the UIPA guideline manual leaves off the word “maintained” entirely (p. 15) as an illustration of this point. http://www.state.hi.us/oip/UIPA%20Manual%205aug08.pdf

    2.) http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrs2008/Vol06_Ch0321-0344/HRS0338/HRS_0338-0018.htm
    HRS§338-18(a): “Disclosure of records. (a) To protect the integrity of vital statistics records, to ensure their proper use, and to ensure the efficient and proper administration of the vital statistics system, it shall be unlawful for any person to permit inspection of, or to disclose information contained in vital statistics records, or to copy or issue a copy of all or part of any such record, except as authorized by this part or by rules adopted by the department of health.”

    The rule that expressly authorizes disclosure is under Chapter 8B, Rule 2.1(D)(1): “Researchers (1) Data from vital records, including copies of part or all of such records, may be released to government agencies, hospitals, foundations, schools, social agencies and other similar organizations or individuals for statistical or research purposes…” http://oeqc.doh.hawaii.gov/sites/har/AdmRules1/8%208A%20B%20VR%20Admin%20Rules.PDF

    (from my blog here: http://obamasgarden.wordpress.com/2010/12/23/updates-on-requests-and-the-after-holiday-posts-to-come/)

  66. The two laws are these:

    1.) HRS§92F-12(15): “Disclosure required. (a) Any other provision in this chapter to the contrary notwithstanding, each agency shall make available for public inspection and duplication during regular business hours:

    (15) Information collected and maintained for the purpose of making information available to the general public”

    I refer to Dr. Fukino’s 7/27/2009 statement about the “vital records” she viewed verifying that President Obama is a “natural-born citizen.”

    Note: The OIP has concluded that information collected for the purpose of making information available to the general public need not be maintained for that reason. The word “and” is disjunctive in this context. In fact, the UIPA guideline manual leaves off the word “maintained” entirely (p. 15) as an illustration of this point.

    2.) HRS§338-18(a): “Disclosure of records. (a) To protect the integrity of vital statistics records, to ensure their proper use, and to ensure the efficient and proper administration of the vital statistics system, it shall be unlawful for any person to permit inspection of, or to disclose information contained in vital statistics records, or to copy or issue a copy of all or part of any such record, except as authorized by this part or by rules adopted by the department of health.”

    The rule that expressly authorizes disclosure is under Chapter 8B, Rule 2.1(D)(1): “Researchers (1) Data from vital records, including copies of part or all of such records, may be released to government agencies, hospitals, foundations, schools, social agencies and other similar organizations or individuals for statistical or research purposes…”

    (See my blog for links. My comment with links is trapped in moderation: http://obamasgarden.wordpress.com/2010/12/23/updates-on-requests-and-the-after-holiday-posts-to-come/)

  67. Sorry, I must be tired. Where can I find the laws you cited? link? Did you have to cite the laws for them to authorize disclosure? Why all the games from Hawaii if there are no exceptions?

    By the way, Thank You! Well done!

  68. “Misstickly,
    Public records? How so?”

    The Uniform Information Practices act is a law that is used to garner disclosure of public records. There are two laws that require Obama’s vital records to be disclosed. One is because he is president and people have in interest in researching him. Therefore, the public has a right to truthful and honest research material through HRS 338-18(a) and the administrative rule that allows disclosure for any individual conducting research. The second law mandates disclosure of any information used to give information to the general public. Dr. Fukino said that Obama’s vital records verify he is a natural born citizen, therefore the public has the right to know how she arrived at that decision.

    Again I wrote about both these laws at my blog: http://obamasgarden.wordpress.com/2010/12/23/updates-on-requests-and-the-after-holiday-posts-to-come/

    However there is a third law that requires disclosure. Ther eis no precedent on this law but i cited it in my request. I believe it also mandates disclosure, but that one will be up to Ms. Takase and the OIP ultimately to set this precedent. The UIPA is modeled onthe FOIA so there is likely precedent through the FOIA.

    But I want to wait on saying more about it for now.

  69. jc–

    “Why all the games from Hawaii if there are no exceptions?”

    Duress. The letters I have from the OIP show duress. These people are operating contrary to the law and policy and it’s out of character from their guidance.

    “Where can I find the laws you cited?”

    Here: http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol02_Ch0046-0115/HRS0092F/HRS_0092F-0012.htm

    And here:
    http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrs2008/Vol06_Ch0321-0344/HRS0338/HRS_0338-0018.htm

    If I give more links, my comment will be thrown into moderation. See my blogpost from Dec 23.

  70. Thank you for the clarification. I had to laugh when you said people had a right to truthful and honest research material on our 44th POTUs. When you are done with Hawaii could you start on all the rest of his mysteriously hidden life.
    Again, way to be tenacious and keep with this. I hope your seeds bear fruit. Well done.

  71. Thank you jc. I really do relish the moments on other blogs where I get a chance to really share with people. But, if I open comments on my blog–I will be overrun with Obots trying to challenge and distract me with meaningless minutia. It would not behoove the cause or my blog content for me to be typing obscenities and focusing on minutia. And, I have been known to have a pretty bad potty mouth.

    Have a wonderful evening…

  72. HonorFirst @ 10:03: You are correct, Mr. Putin has had Dinglebarry’s passport that lists his real birthplace since that 2005 incident in Perm.

    Note that aka Obama’s age is listed as “41” (should have been 44 in 2005), just an innocent typo perhaps?

    http://www.bellona.no/bellona.org/english_import_area/international/russia/nuke_industry/co-operation/39511

    This article surmised that aka Obama was held at Perm under the suspicion of being a British spy:

    http://americanreporter.wordpress.com/2009/09/06/russia-holds-obama-for-suspicion-of-being-a-british-spy-back-in-2005-investigator-in-chicago-fingers-obama-for-being-a-british-spy-as-far-back-as-2004/

  73. “I had to laugh when you said people had a right to truthful and honest research material on our 44th POTUs”

    Oh, and I know what you mean. Amazingly, this Hawaii Department of Health admin rule (with the effect of law) has been in effect since, like, 1972…

    Hawaii is not that closed in terms of vital records. It’s total spin to say they are. The definitions of ‘research’ and ‘individual’ are as broad as can be. According to the UIPA, you need only tell them you are a ‘researcher’ when you make the request. They have to assume you are an ‘individual.’

    And that’s all it’s supposed to take IF you request copies under the UIPA rather than through a HDOH application. And the copies should be free if the cost is under $60.

  74. Great stuff posted tonight. I smell a rat though with the whole Chrissy Matthews thing. He’s an Obama bootlicker from way back so why is he bringing this all up now? Why is he calling his Messiah out? Why is Abercrombie willing to show the ‘holy grail’? Come on this has to be a set up for the glorious unveiling. Obama will soon say “Ok I guess I’d better show you guys the real bc.” Or something like that. Get it over with before OB goes into full out campaign mode. The truth needs to come out before he gets his chance to game the system and dupe Americans again.

    Misstickly, I am most hopeful for what you are doing, but I sure hope it doesn’t take 30 years as I will probably not be here to get the good news, lol.

  75. “I smell a rat though with the whole Chrissy Matthews thing.”

    Oh, I don’t trust Chrissy either. I think what we have working in our favor is that Chrissy puts a lot of faith in whatever his messiah is cooking up. All of MSNBC puts faith in Obama to come up with a really convincing something.

    And, I don’t think it’s remotely possible at this point. And, I think their backs are against the wall to HAVE TO do this. And, I think it’s all having to be pulled outta their butts because this was NOT in the original plan.

    Given how poorly Abercrombie pulled off his part of the scam, Chrissy is more than likely to come out on *ahem* the ‘bottom’ when it comes to standing by his long distance boyfriend from Chicago.

  76. misstickly,

    How can anybody have their identity protected when they are using a fake ID themselves?

    Why was Gov. Lingle able to deny access to Obama’s birth certificate by authority granted pursuant to Section 338-18 of the Revised Statues, a provision her office claimed was to prevent identity theft when the most telling evidence of fraud is the fact that the social security number most commonly used by Obama from 1981 until now is a number issued in the state of CT to an individual born in 1890. According to licensed investigators Susan Daniels and Neil Sankey Obama has used numerous different SS numbers that belonged to deceased individuals and numbers that were never issued. 39 such numbers were used according to National Databases, none of which were issued in HI.

    In light of the fact that Ms. Nagamine has indicated that Hawaii’s Attorney General’s office will not corroborate Dr. Fukino’s statement declaring “Obama Hawaiian-born and a “natural-born American citizen”, could this be used as a wedge to re-address the issue with Governor Abercrombi’s office and seek clarification?

    Could Ms. Nagamine be asked in court if Gov. Abercrombie can hide behind Section 338-18 where evidence to social security number fraud can and/or has been submitted to both the AG and Governor’s office?

    Leo Donofrio argued that since Obama posted a forged COLB that that in and of itself should deny Obama the right to deny access to his records at the DOH. That is on the state level, on the federal level how could the State of Hawaii afford identity protection to someone violating:
    The felony fraud provisions of the Title II programs found in 42 U.S.C. § 408(a)(1)-(8) of the Act.

    • forging or falsifying SSA documents;
    • using a Social Security Number (SSN)
    obtained on the basis of false information or
    falsely using the SSN of another person, for
    the purpose of obtaining or increasing a
    payment under Social Security or any other
    federally funded program, or for any other
    purpose
    • making or causing to be made a false
    statement or representation of a material fact
    for use in determining rights to Social
    Security benefits, Medicare, Supplemental
    Security Income, or Black Lung benefits

    Can the use of a fake ID be proffered as the basis for seeking records through UIPA whereby subsequent compliance can form the basis of standing in other jurisdictions for further adjudication?

  77. misstickly
    RE:
    There are two laws that require Obama’s vital records to be disclosed. One is because he is president and people have in interest in researching him. Therefore, the public has a right to truthful and honest research material through HRS 338-18(a) and the administrative rule that allows disclosure for any individual conducting research.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    FWIW,
    Last June I had several email exchanges with Margaret Hemenway and Sharon Rondeau about this……………………….
    Any litigant, attorney or government entity can get HI birth info
    From: @mail.com>
    To: Bcc: Ducky@safeguardourconstitution.com
    Date: Thu, Jun 10, 2010 8:18 pm

    For Margaret Hemenway.

    Can you pass this on to LTC Lakin and attorney team?
    I copied this from a comment site re: Obama birth records.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    If a certified copy is required after introduction to court, have the Judge order it be done.
    ……………………………………………………………………………………………………
    It was surmised that the HRS number was wrong or did not apply.
    I notice today that the number was probably HRS 338, and not the 388
    as typed in the comment.
    Sharon had done an interview with Margaret for the postemail, and we had
    these discussions by email and not online.

  78. Something goofy happened, and this was left off my last post.

    For Margaret Hemenway.

    Can you pass this on to LTC Lakin and attorney team?
    I copied this from a comment site re: Obama birth records.

    If a certified copy is required after introduction to court, have the Judge order it be done

  79. AArghhh.
    My copy/paste not making it through moderation.

  80. I took out the brackets and quotation marks to try again…………

    I’m curious why no lawyer who has filed suit against Obama has not gone directly to the Hawaii Department of Health on the basis of HRS388-18(g)(4) to at least get an official verification (noncertified copy of the original birth record) of Obama’s birth records?
    The department shall not issue a verification in lieu of a certified copy of any such record, or any part thereof, unless it is satisfied that the applicant requesting a verification is: A private or government attorney who seeks to confirm information about a vital event relating to any such record which was acquired during the course of or for purposes of legal proceedings
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    If a certified copy is required after introduction to court, have the Judge order it be done.

  81. Pixel Patriot | December 28, 2010 at 5:07 am |

    “Why was Gov. Lingle able to deny access to Obama’s birth certificate by authority granted pursuant to Section 338-18 of the Revised Statues..”

    _______________________________________

    ESPECIALLY SINCE SHE WAS A REPUBLICAN???

  82. Thank you for your persistence and your thoroughness. I hope and pray that we will be able to expose the fraud.

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  85. Carlyle | December 27, 2010 at 3:37 pm |
    The difference with McCain is that his parents are citizens who were on posting at the time of his birth. McCain never had Panamanian citizenship.

    I have been taking up the cudgels on Rubio and Jindal. Schwarznegger has always stated that he knew he could not be President.

  86. Vic Hern:

    Hawaii’s Health Director has violated that, and most of HS 338, in refusing to release an uncertified Letter of Verification of Obama’s birth record which Hawaii is required, by law, to provide.

    I also tried in June 2008 to get one demanding that they cannot deny its release when the public’s has a right to know – especially since Obama never issued a statement to Hawaii or the public as to why his record should be treated unlike any other record that Hawaii maintains.

    ex-Drector Fukino has been lying her ass off from the very beginning and obstructing juistice in the process.

    But, the lunatic liberals who called Bush, Cheney, Rice, and every one else in his Administration GD liars for eight years, all of a sudden want us to trust the word of THIS Hawaii Bureaucrat as if she is the All-Knowing, Ruler of the Universe.

    And these libtards are still breeding?

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