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Major General Carroll D. Childers, Orly Taitz lawsuit, Obama not qualified, Barack Obama ineligible, Major General Childers, US Army, 29TH Infantry Division, Obama crime associates

Posted on February 25, 2009 | 55 comments

I just posted the following on Congress Watch. Once again my
hat goes off to Dr. Orly Taitz and the military.

God bless you.
Once again our military steps up to the plate to uphold the
US Constitution and protect the citizens of the US. Major
General Carroll D. Childers has joined Dr. Orly Taitz’
lawsuit to challenge the eligibility of Barack Obama. Not
only does Major General Childers question Obama’s eligibility,
but he is aware of the many crime and corruption connections
to Obama:

“Major General Commanding General Carroll D. Childers Joins Military Suit


CONSENT FORM
DATE:  24 Feb 2009
 
Attn. Orly Taitz, Esq.
26302 La Paz, Ste. 211
Mission Viejo, CA 92691
 
I agree to be a plaintiff in the legal action to be filed by Orly Taitz, Esq. in a PETITION FOR A DECLARATORY JUDGEMENT THAT BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA IS NOT QUALIFIED TO BE PRESIDENT of the U.S., nor TO BE  COMMANDER IN CHIEF of the U.S. ARMED FORCES, in that I am or was a sworn member of the U.S. military (subject to recall), and therefore when serving as an active member of the military, I would be unable to follow any orders given by a Constitutionally unqualified Commander In Chief, since by doing so I would be subject to charges of aiding and abetting fraud and committing acts of treason. 

TYPED NAME or Signature: Carroll D. Childers
FULL NAME: Carroll Dean Childers

POSITION IN THE MILITARY/RANK/DATES SERVED/STATUS: Retired as Major General Commanding General 29TH Infantry Division VA ARNG 1999, 44 years service

OCCUPATION: Consultant  Registered Professional Engineer

ACHIEVEMENTS: Retired 38 Yrs DON Civil Service, RDT&E, several patents, 14 months in combat zones as science advisor (Vietnam, Persian Gulf, Operation Desert Storm), Oldest DHG of a Ranger Course (42), retired MG, married 50+ years, still ticking and kicking

I can present a long list of reasons, taken individually, which convinced me NOT to vote for Barack Hussein Obama; his crime associates in the USA, his lack of experience, the mystery of his citizenship, his promise to make coal power industry bankrupt through excessive regulations, his constant adjustment of position on issues, his tax plan, his spread the wealth admission, his obvious socialistic goals, his associations with foreign leaders unfriendly to the USA, the lies he tells about a range of subjects including perhaps who his biological father really is, his most recent revelation of having a “National Security Force” (whatever that is)……………all of these says he is a person of mystery, of no integrity, and in fact paints him with the same narcissist paint of Hitler, Stalin, Saddam, Mao, and Kim Jong Ill.
 
But then, there is a simple more direct, easier to understand reason that I did not vote for him and that is his lack of respect for the country that is giving him the opportunity to run for the highest office in the land……..even though I personally think he is not constitutionally eligible.

But more than 50% of America voted for this charlatan and he now has the helm of the ship of state. Even so, he is not MY President. I will not refer to him as such. I will call him Resident Obama, and an illegal resident of the white house at that. I resent him for what he is not. He has not given proof that he is a natural born citizen of these United States. He has spent millions of dollars protecting the truth of his birth from public knowledge; therefore, it is obvious he has something to hide. He is an interloper, a usurper, a fake, a scam artist, a Chicago crook, a recipient of bribes and gratuitous income for which he paid no tax, a socialist (perhaps only a communist or Marxist), and a grave danger to the future of the America that I love and have protected since I was 17 years old.

I have told my two senators and my member of the House of Representatives. I have written 9 justices of the Supreme Court as well as President Bush before he left office. NONE have responded, therefore, they are all complicit and should all be severely punished for having failed in their sworn oath to protect and defend the constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic. The instant Obamb was sworn in, he violated the oath he took because he took the office knowing he is ineligible and there stood Judge Roberts who should have immediately had Obama arrested and deported.

Other than this, my key short-term complaint is that he has not had a heart attack in office. But most important, what I really want is the truth; is Obama a natural born citizen of the United States. If not a natural born citizen, America has been defrauded and then we would be stuck with Joe Biden whose only redeeming attribute is that he is probably not a communist.

Carroll D. Childers P.E.
Major General (Retired)”

Read more here:

http://defendourfreedoms.us/2009/02/24/major-general-commanding-general-carroll-d-childers-joins-military-suit.aspx

 We are still looking for volunteers to help update Congress Watch with
letters and information from the military and congressmen.

http://congresswatch.wordpress.com/

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US Congress, US Constitution, Obama not eligible, 20th Amendment, Citizen Wells, Restore the Constitutional Republic, Sue Myrick, Jim DeMint, Senators, Representatives

Posted on February 7, 2009 | 89 comments

“America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and
lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.”

“Don’t interfere with anything in the Constitution. That must be
maintained, for it is the only safeguard of our liberties.”

“The people will save their government, if the government itself
will allow them.”

Abraham Lincoln

 

The

US Congress

must be held accountable

 Prologue

I am writing this as a concerned American, not as a Democrat, Republican,
Independent or other political position. I dislike modern political
parties, although in honesty, I am more disgusted with the modern day
Democrat party. We need more statesmen, less politics and putting
America first. I promise you I will go after Republicans with the same
veracity that I question Democrats.

You, I and most Americans have let this happen. Like the frog slowly
cooking in a pot of water, not realizing that it is being cooked, we
have allowed our institutions, like Congress and the Judicial as well
as the MSM, to cook our brains into a stupor of submission. Television
screens, just like the screens in the homes of “1984” have brought us
just the “news” that the modern day Big Brother, the Obama Camp, wants
us to hear. Revisionist history and adoration of Big Brother.

The changes in this country did not occur overnight and our attempts
to restore obedience to the US Constitution and responsible institutions
will take time and effort. We have been given a wake up call. Just as the
“shot heard round the world” was a wake up call for the patriots of the
American Revolution, we must sieze this unique moment in history and
rise to the occasion. We have seen what will happen if we choose to do
otherwise. Join us in making Congress accountable to the American public.

Citizen Wells
Many in this country are concerned about Barack Obama holding the
office of the presidency coupled with Democrats such as Nancy
Pelosi, et al controlling Congress. The “Stimulus” bill, that is
being ramrodded through Congress is also troubling. However, I,
along with others such as Dean Haskins of Restore the Constitutional
Republic, are more concerned about an illegal president and trampling
on the US Constitution.

Many Americans, and websites such as this blog made extensive efforts
before the general election to inform state election officials,
Electoral College Electors and members of Congress of the eligibility
issues surrounding Obama. Our efforts fell on deaf ears. Party politics
amd  misinformation ruled. We officially entered a manifested state
of Orwellian, “1984” like revisionist history, Thought Police and
doublespeak.

Thousands of Americans are outraged at the disregard for the US
Constitution and rule of law. Numerous lawsuits were initiated to
get all levels of courts to uphold the law. Many lawsuits are still
active. Electoral College Electors voted by party dictates, state
election officials passed the buck and Congress failed to do it’s
duty as part of this country’s checks and balances system. Despite
the numerous lawsuits, despite the efforts of thousands of constituents
and despite their duty to uphold the Constitution, Congress failed
the American public. On February 3, 2009 Rasmussen reported that the
Democrat controlled Congress had an approval rating of 12 %.

On January 8, 2009, Congress met to count and verify the Electoral
College votes. The Electoral College had failed to do their constitutional
duty and protect the American public from a usurper. Members of Congress,
who took an oath to defend the Constitution and having been notified
of Obama’s eligibility issues, had an obligation and legal duty to
challenge the Electoral College votes for an illegal candidate. From
Federal  election law:

UNITED STATES CODE

The following provisions of law governing Presidential Elections are
contained in Chapter 1 of Title 3, United States Code (62 Stat. 672,
as amended):

TITLE 3 THE PRESIDENT

Chapter 1. Presidential Elections and Vacancies

Counting electoral votes in congress
§ 15.
“Upon such reading of any such certificate or paper, the President of
the Senate shall call for objections, if any. Every objection shall
be made in writing, and shall state clearly and concisely, and without
argument, the ground thereof, and shall be signed by at least one Senator
and one Member of the House of Representatives before the same shall be
received. When all objections so made to any vote or paper from a State
shall have been received and read, the Senate shall thereupon withdraw,
and such objections shall be submitted to the Senate for its decision;”

No member of Congress issued a challenge and Senate President, Dick Cheney
did not call for objections as prescribed by law.

Conspiracy definitions from Wikipedia:

Conspiracy (civil), an agreement between persons to deceive, mislead, or
defraud others of their legal rights, or to gain an unfair advantage.
 
Conspiracy (crime), an agreement between persons to break the law in the
future, in some cases having committed an act to further that agreement.
 
Conspiracy (political), a plot to overthrow a government

From the Mario Appuzo lawsuit that includes
the Congress of the US as one of the defendants.
Filed in US District Court in NJ:

“102. No other political institution has a Constitutional duty to verify the
Constitutional qualifications of a President Elect.

103. Hence, the last political institution to make sure Obama is eligible and
qualified to be President was Congress under the Twentieth Amendment.

104. The Twentieth Amendment also provides procedure for what happens if the
President Elect does not qualify for the office to which he has been elected.

105. Each member of the U.S. House of Representatives and Senate has a duty to
the plaintiffs and the American people to do his or her due diligence and
demand all necessary records and question all necessary witnesses to determine
the true identity and eligibility of any would-be President.

106. Obama, as the President Elect, was subject to the “qualification” clause of
the 20th Amendment from December 15, 2008, when the Electoral College voted for
him.

107. On January 8, 2009, Congress in Joint Session confirmed Obama as the next
President of the United States even though he is not an Article II “natural
born Citizen.” Endnote 16.

108. Hence, Congress had from December 15, 2008 to and including January 8,
2009 to hold a fact finding hearing and subpoena documents and investigate the
challenges publicly expressed by plaintiffs and thousands of other Americans
regarding whether Obama is an Article II “natural born Citizen” and which were
even the subject of numerous law suits filed in our nation’s courts.

109. Thus Congress had over 3 weeks to hold a public hearing in the Senate,
House, or both to investigate the issue but they did not.

110. When so much doubt has been expressed in the public arena about Obama’s
eligibility to be President, Congress had a duty to investigate and confirm for
the sake of the Constitution and the plaintiffs and other American people which
it represents if Obama is so qualified by holding a Congressional hearing and
investigation on the matter with full subpoena power. Endnote 17.

111. Even though Congress was well aware of the thousands of people including
the plaintiffs who had petitioned Congress so that it could properly investigate
Obama’s qualifications to be President (Endnote 18 ) and that no court of law had
accepted any case raising the issue because of standing or some other procedural
obstacle, Congress violated the Twentieth Amendment by failing to assure that
Obama meets the eligibility requirements of Article II and confirming him as
President at a time when there was and continued to be such a national debate
regarding Obama’s Article II eligibility to be President.”

Read more about the lawsuit here:

http://www.therightsideoflife.com/?p=3039

The level of outrage due to the US Constitution being trampled on has erupted
into a loud united voice from millions of Americans who have watched in disbelief
as the Executive, Judicial and Legislative branches of government have failed
them. This outrage comes from all strata of society including attorneys, business
people, regular Americans and many in the military.

 Consider the following letter:

Charles E. Jones
Brigadier General US Air Force, Retired
Lifetime subject to recall for active duty
Recipient of the Distinguished Service Medal (AF)
02.04.09

“We the People of the United States of America” are entitled to know
the legal qualifications of the President and Commander in Chief. 
For the better good and National Security of “We the People of the
United States” and for Absolute Command of the Military Forces of the
United States, I whole heartedly support the efforts of Dr. Orly Taitz,
ESQ for taking legal action to determine whether or not Barack Hussein
 Obama, aka Barry Soetoro, Citizen of Indonesia and possibly citizen
of Kenya, is eligible to become President of the United States and
Commander in Chief of the United States Armed Forces.

Thanks to Zach Jones is Home blog for the letter.

The Citizen Wells blog instituted the US Constitution Hall of Shame before the
general election to increase public awareness of Obama’s ineligibility to be
president and to hold accountable congressmen and other public officials. It
was hoped that those charged with upholding the US Constitution and protecting
the American public would get the message and vet Obama. That obviously did not
occur. The 2010 election campaigns will begin soon. Many of us still want answers
from congressmen as to why they believed that Obama was eligible and why no
member of Congress challenged Obama’s eligibility.

This is the formal announcement of a new initiative to hold
Congress accountable. The Citizen Wells blog, in conjunction
with Dean Haskins of Restore the Constitutional Republic and
many other concerned citizens, has begun the process of
contacting members of Congress to ask them why they believed
Obama was eligible and why no one challenged him. The American
public deserves to know the truth. Why did Congress not do
it’s job?

Was there a conspiracy?

Were people afraid of personal attacks?

Was there fear of riots?

Did every member believe Obama was eligible?

If so, why?

The WHY initiative.

We will if necessary, contact every member of Congress and will not take no
response as an answer. We have begun contacting 2 members, representative Sue
Myrick of NC and Senator Jim DeMint of SC. The responses we have received from
their aides is less than satisfactory. We will get answers from them.

Consider the following responses:

From Sue Myrick’s office.
Polk, Andy :Andy.Polk@mail.house.gov

“ohhh- I understand it correctly based on US Supreme Court cases interpreting
what “natural born citizen” Constitutionally means.  Had he not met the
definition, Chief Justice Roberts, the worlds leading Constitutional scholar,
would not have sworn him in because he would have violated his duty to uphold
the Constitution.  You can argue with me all you want on this issue, but I can
do nothing for you on this point.  The only thing you can do, if you feel so
strongly about Obama not being a citizen, is file a lawsuit in federal court.”

Sue Myrick, if you are paying attention, you may want to have a staff meeting.
Does Andy Polk speak for you? We intend to find out.

From Jim DeMint’s office:
Ian Headley

“I cannot speak for other Members of Congress and neither can Senator DeMint. 
However, Senator DeMint has looked into the claims with regard to Barack Obama’s
eligibility to hold the office of President.  Multiple court cases have reached
the Supreme Court, through the legal framework of our nation.  Each case has
since been dismissed.  It appears from all evidence available, the President was
qualified under the Constitution for Congress to certify the electoral college
vote.”

We eagerly await the opportunity to sit and have a dialogue with Senator DeMint.
Mr. Headley has stated that Senator DeMint examined all evidence available.
Perhaps they will share this evidence with the American public.

However, the smoking gun question still remains. The type of question that a
fifth grader can understand. If Obama was eligible, why did he employ an
army of attorneys and expend so many resources to avoid producing the evidence
that he was qualified.

Here is the email correspondence between Dean Haskins and Senator DeMint’s
office:

http://restoretheconstitutionalrepublic.org/wordpress/?p=86  

The comments from Senator DeMint’s office are fairly typical of those received
before Congress met on January 8, 2009. Here is an example from the US
Constitution Hall of Shame. A letter received from Senator Barbara Mikulski
of Maryland:

“Thank you for getting in touch with me. It’s nice to hear from you.

I appreciate knowing of your concern over a rumor that President-elect Obama is ineligible to serve as President because he is not a U.S. citizen.

The Fourteenth Amendment to the Constitution states that “all persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States.” Since President-elect Obama was born in Hawaii two years after it was admitted as the 50th state, he is a natural-born citizen. He has released a copy of his birth certificate and it has been authenticated by experts. Following Obama’s overwhelming and undisputed victory in the recent election, the Supreme Court has considered challenges to his citizenship and dismissed them as being without merit.

Thanks again for contacting me. Please do not hesitate to let me know if I can be of assistance to you again in the future.

Sincerely,
Barbara A. Mikulski
United States Senator”

Here is the analysis of the letter:

1. “rumor that President-elect Obama is ineligible”
This is no rumor, it is a fact.

2. “Since President-elect Obama was born in Hawaii two years after
it was admitted as the 50th state, he is a natural-born citizen.”
Being born in Hawaii does not make Obama a natural born citizen.

3. “He has released a copy of his birth certificate”
He has not released a copy of his birth certificate!!!
Pay attention! He put up a highly suspect COLB on his site.
Learn more about Hawaii statutes below.

4. “it has been authenticated by experts”
You can’t authenticate what you do not have access to.

5. “the Supreme Court has considered challenges to his citizenship
and dismissed them as being without merit.”
The Supreme Court has dismissed none of the eligibility based
lawsuits on not having merit. Berg’s lawsuit is still before the
Supreme Court.
Visit the US Constitution Hall of Shame here. Read more letters
from congressmen and learn why Obama is ineligible.

https://citizenwells.wordpress.com/us-constitution-hall-of-shame/

This effort is now underway. It is the proverbial first step in a
“journey of a thousand miles.” We will get to the truth of this
matter and we will need your help. Information on how you can help
we be provided soon. In the meantime, let your congressmen know that
we mean business, now and going forward.  Let them know that their
constituents want them to discuss these issues with our
representatives. We will be keeping a close eye on them. Forever.

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Obama guilty of treason?, Stall Iraq withdrawal, Logan Act, Another illegal act, Kenya 2006, Obama demand, NY Post, September 15, 2008, OBAMA TRIED TO STALL GIS’ IRAQ WITHDRAWAL

Posted on September 15, 2008 | 3 comments

Obama was criticized by the Kenyan Government for his 2006 visit
to Kenya when he campaigned for his cousin Raila Odinga and
insulted the government. Now we learn that when Obama met with
Iraqi leaders “He asked why we were not prepared to delay an agreement until after the US elections and the formation of a new administration in Washington,“, stated Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari. The NY Post has a breaking news article on Obama’s meeting. Here are some exerpts from the article dated Monday, September 15, 2008:

“OBAMA TRIED TO STALL GIS’ IRAQ WITHDRAWAL”

“WHILE campaigning in public for a speedy withdrawal of US troops from Iraq, Sen. Barack Obama has tried in private to persuade Iraqi leaders to delay an agreement on a draw-down of the American military presence.

According to Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari, Obama made his demand for delay a key theme of his discussions with Iraqi leaders in Baghdad in July.

“He asked why we were not prepared to delay an agreement until after the US elections and the formation of a new administration in Washington,” Zebari said in an interview”

“Though Obama claims the US presence is “illegal,” he suddenly remembered that Americans troops were in Iraq within the legal framework of a UN mandate. His advice was that, rather than reach an accord with the “weakened Bush administration,” Iraq should seek an extension of the UN mandate.

While in Iraq, Obama also tried to persuade the US commanders, including Gen. David Petraeus, to suggest a “realistic withdrawal date.” They declined.”

Read the rest of the article here:

http://www.nypost.com/seven/09152008/postopinion/opedcolumnists/obama_tried_to_stall_gis_iraq_withdrawal_129150.htm?page=0

If you believe Obama is unfit for office, visit:

http://obamaimpeachment.org

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Truthfightsback.com, John Kerry, Obama, Truth Fights Back, More Obama lies, More Kerry lies, Citizen Wells reveals Kerry lies, Bloggers, Fight back

Posted on August 13, 2008 | 5 comments

John Kerry, who has about the least amount of credibility of anyone who has ever run for office, has started a new website, TruthFightsBack.com. Here is the statement from the Kerry site:

“Please give to support truthfightsback.com!

This effort to beat back rightwing smears and have an election based on reality and truth is completely in your hands. From the reporting and debunking of smears to the spreading of the truth, we are depending on you. And to make it all work, we need your financial support, both to develop the website further and to put more resources behind spreading the truth.

This is a project of John Kerry’s Campaign For Our Country, so please contribute to Campaign For Our Country to support truthfightsback.com!”

Jerome Corsi, PHD, has written a new book, “The Obama Nation.” Mr. Corsi, who coauthored “Unfit for Command,” a book about the reputation of John Kerry and the many lies he told, has exposed Obama for the deceitful fraud he is as well as his ties to corruption and left wing extremists. Anyone who has questioned Obama has received personal attacks and Jerome Corsi is no exception.

I have a copy of “Unfit for Command” as well as “The Obama Nation.” On the introduction page of “Unfit for Command” is the following quote. It speaks volumes about John Kerry and his credibility:

“I do not believe John Kerry is fit to be commander in chief of the armed forces of the United States. This is not a political issue. It is a matter of his judgement, truthfulness, reliability, loyalty, and trust–all absolute tenets of command.”

REAR ADMIRAL ROY F. HOFFMAN, USN (RETIRED)

Commander of the Swift Boats in Vietnam, 1968-1969

                     Call sign “Latch”

I and other concerned citizens are not going to let the Obama camp, in league with John Kerry, attack Jerome Corsi or anyone else for revealing the truth about Obama.

Citizen Wells

Visit the Petition to Impeach, expel Senator Obama site:

http://obamaimpeachment.org

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Colin Powell endorses Obama, If so he is an idiot, Does Powell have his head in the sand

Posted on August 13, 2008 | 16 comments

There is a breaking story that Colin Powell will endorse Obama. It is hard to believe and if true, Colin Powell is an idiot.

We expected more from Colin Powell. Obviously Powell has not spent the time to learn about the real Barack Obama. Colin Powell has failed his country. Colin Powell, what is your motivation in using such poor judgement?

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Iraq war, history 101, United Nations, US role, facts, revisionist history

Posted on March 11, 2008 | Leave a comment

There are 1 or more people commenting on this blog that are purportedly University of Western Florida students. Responding with comments to my posts is ok. Disagreeing with me is ok. Trying to take over this blog is not. If you need a platform for your agenda, start your own blog.

History 101 and the Iraq War

Prerequisites: some fundamental knowledge of 20th century history. Closest analogy to Iraq war in past 100 years, World War II.

Topic 1 – The Iraq war is costing a lot of money. There is a cost of action and a cost of inaction. Assignment: calculate the cost of World War II in today’s dollars. Cost in human lives. What would the dollar cost and human cost have been if we had not entered the war? What would the dollar cost and human cost have been if we had gotten involved 1 year earlier? 2 years earlier?

Now, suppose we had not stopped the Iraq invasion of Kuwait. Now suppose we had left Saddam Hussein unchecked. Now factor in Iran and their desire for a nuclear capabability. Don’t believe for 1 minute that Iran has not been pursueing a nuclear program. A friend of mine 25 years ago was married to an Iranian nuclear physicist.

Lesson: there is always a cost for action and a cost for inaction.

Topic 2 – Does the US have a desire to police the world? The answer is no. The United Nations had a clear purpose to prevent Saddam Hussein from getting out of control. The United Nations failed to perform it’s duty. Why? Key members, France, Germany and Russia were “in bed” financially with Saddam Hussein. If my memory is correct, our so called policing was welcome in World War II when the world was going down the toilet and close to Nazi domination.

Lesson: The US is forced into action by the irresponsibility of other nations. Fortunately, the Iraq war was a coalition of many countries including Great Britain and Australia.

Myth: The US is the cause of death and injuries to the Iraqi People. This is an outright lie. The people saying this are liars. Saddam Hussein, remnants of his regime, factional frictions and outside radical Islamic cowards are the cause. And yes, anyone that would attack innocent women and children or ask them to become a weapon, that person is the lowest level of coward. Radical Islamists, if you were real men, you would face American men face to face and not send women and children to do your evil killing.

Any questions, class?

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John Stuart Mill, War, Good cause, Liberal Parliament member, War quote

Posted on March 8, 2008 | 2 comments

John Stuart Mill was a British philosopher, political economist, civil servant and liberal Member of Parliament. He was also a  influential liberal thinker of the 19th century and a teacher of utilitarianism, an ethical theory developed by Jeremy Bentham. Mill was an advocate for Ireland, and the first Parliament member to propose that women be given the right to vote. Mill was a strong advocate of women’s rights. He believed that in some cases, war is the lesser of evils. Here is John Stuart Mill’s  famous quote concerning war:
“But war, in a good cause, is not the greatest evil which a nation can suffer. War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things: the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks nothing worth a war, is worse. When a people are used as mere human instruments for firing cannon or thrusting bayonets, in the service and for the selfish purposes of a master, such war degrades a people. A war to protect other human beings against tyrannical injustice – a war to give victory to their own ideas of right and good, and which is their own war, carried on for an honest purpose by their free choice – is often the means of their regeneration. A man who has nothing which he is willing to fight for, nothing which he cares more about than he does about his personal safety, is a miserable creature who has no chance of being free, unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself. As long as justice and injustice have not terminated their ever-renewing fight for ascendancy in the affairs of mankind, human beings must be willing, when need is, to do battle for the one against the other.”

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Douglas Kinnard, UVM professor of political science, The War managers, University of Vermont, Vietnam vs Iraq, Question for professor, General Kinnard

Posted on March 7, 2008 | 1 comment

First of all, I believed that we should not be in Vietnam when the war was going on and I believe that even more so now. I also respect Americans that served in Vietnam and followed their conscience. Dwight D Eisenhower, in a 1961 speech, warned of the military industrial complex. Here is the quote:

“In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.”

The rest of the speech can be viewed here:

http://coursesa.matrix.msu.edu/~hst306/documents/indust.html

I believe we must be on guard against the undue influence of armaments manufacturers. I also believe these financial gain sources played too big a role in our involvement in Vietnam. Of course, we still need to employ our checks and balances to guard against any undue influence.

Many have tried to connect imaginary dots to form an analogy between the Vietnam War and the Iraq War. The only strong analogy I can discern is that both were unpopular wars. I hope that all wars are unpopular wars. However, many choices in life are choosing the lesser of evils. Some wars such as The American Revolution, World War II and the Iraq War are the lesser of evils. If we had entered World War II earlier, I am certain that millions of lives could have been saved.
I am also convinced that if the United Nations had performed as it was chartered, our involvement in Iraq would have been radically different. Of course that was not possible with France, Germany and Russia being “in bed” with Saddam Hussein financially.

Douglas Kinnard, UVM professor of political science, former general in Vietnam and author of “The War Managers”, was interviewed in The Vermont Quarterly in the Fall 2007 issue. He speaks of his involvement with Vietnam as a general, in the military, and his opinion of the Vietnam War. At the end of the interview, he states, “Those who fail to learn from history are forced to repeat it.” I wholeheartedly agree with that statement, but would add that as long as the learning takes place from a broad based factual account of history and not revisionist history.

Professor Kinnard adds this statement at the end: “If Bush knew the real lessons of Vietnam, he would get out sooner than stay.” I would like a clarification of that statement. Was the statement made to appease the ultra liberal folks at The University Of Vermont, or was it a general (no pun intended) statement about lingering past our eminent usefulness? 

Dr. Douglas Kinnard, I respectfully request your response. I do not want to misrepresent your statement.
 

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