Why has Obama employed a legion of private and government attorneys to avoid presenting a legitimate birth certificate and college records?…Citizen Wells and millions of concerned Americans
Why has the MSM and Fox News ignored the other counts of corruption against Rod Blagojevich, the same corruption tied to Obama, Rezko, Levine, Weinstein, et al? Why has the MSM and Fox only covered the alleged attempt to sell Obama’s old senate seat?
Bill O’Reilly and Glenn Beck continue to insult concerned Americans who question Obama’s eligibility. They refer to them as birthers and right wing nuts. However, even Lou Dobbs while still at CNN asked why Obama doesn’t present a legitimate birth certificate.
I have tried to make this simple enough even for the bloviating idiots O’Reilly and Beck. On February 14, 2010, the Citizen Wells blog presented this simple, uncomplicated information.
“Obama and Congress Request and Obtain an Extension of Time to File Opposition Brief to Kerchner v Obama & Congress Appeal.”
From the docket of the Kerchner v Obama lawsuit.
“02/12/2010
1 pg, 83.15 KB
ECF FILER: Letter from Dick Cheney, Congress of US, House Represenatives,
Barack Obama, Nancy Pelosi, US Senate and USA confirming extension of time
pursuant to Third Circuit LAR 31.4 with service on opposing counsel. Service
date 02/12/2010. (EF)”
Even Beck and O’Reilly can figure this one out. Obama is hiding his records and the taxpayers are paying for his defense.
Glenn Beck, I emailed and left voice messages with a cell phone number you can call if you have any questions or if anything here appears incorrect.
Glenn, I am still waiting for the phone call.
Obama attorneys fight to hide records
On February 15, 2010, the Citizen Wells blog provided an intro into what Blagojevich was indicted for versus what Bill o’Reilly interviewed him about.
“Let’s focus om the Rod Blagojevich indictment and upcoming trial. This, like the Tony Rezko trial, is more about rampant Chicago and Illinois corruption and Obama strong, long time ties to not only Blagojevich, but especially Tony Rezko who is at the center of so much of this corruption.
The Obama Administration and Obama camp are masters of deceit and diversions. It is now clear that the alleged attempt by Rod Blagojevich to sell Obama’s old US Senate seat was crafted as a masterful diversion to keep the attention away from the years of corruption that Blagojevich and Obama were involved in. Of course this benefits Blagojevich and Obama. It is an excellent diversion.”
Bill O’Reilly and Fox ignore most of Blagojevich indictment
Here is the truth about Blagojevich, Obama and their crime buddies.
From the Rod Blagojevich Indictment press release APRIL 2, 2009.
“CHICAGO – Since 2002, even before he was first elected governor that November, and continuing until he was arrested on Dec. 9, 2008, former Illinois Gov. Rod R. Blagojevich and a circle of his closest aides and advisors allegedly engaged in a wide-ranging scheme to deprive the people of Illinois of honest government, according to a 19-count indictment returned today by a federal grand jury. Blagojevich, 52, of Chicago, was charged with 16 felony counts, including racketeering conspiracy, wire fraud, extortion conspiracy, attempted extortion and making false statements to federal agents. He allegedly used his office in numerous matters involving state appointments, business, legislation and pension fund investments to seek or obtain such financial benefits as money, campaign contributions, and employment for himself and others, in exchange for official actions, including trying to leverage his authority to appoint a United States Senator, announced Patrick J. Fitzgerald, United States Attorney for the Northern District of Illinois.”
“The charges are part of Operation Board Games, a continuing public corruption investigation of pay-to-play schemes, including insider-dealing, influence-peddling and kickbacks involving private interests and public duties. The investigation began in 2003 and has resulted in charges against a total of 17 defendants. Today’s charges were brought in a superseding indictment that replaces one brought Oct. 30, 2008, against Cellini alone for allegedly conspiring with others to obtain campaign funds for Blagojevich by shaking down an investment firm that was seeking a $220 million allocation from TRS.”
Citizen Wells: The following ties Blagojevich, Obama, Rezko, Levine, Weinstein and a host of other in a web of corruption.
“The principle fraud scheme count, which names Blagojevich, Monk, Harris and Robert Blagojevich as co-schemers, together with Kelly, Cellini, Rezko, Levine and others, alleges that they deprived the people of Illinois and the beneficiaries of TRS of the honest services of Blagojevich, Harris, Monk and Levine, who was a member of the Illinois Health Facilities Planning Board and the TRS board of trustees.”
From the Tony Rezko Indictment:
“The Illinois Health Facilities Planning Board (“Planning Board”) was a commission of the State of Illinois, established by statute, whose members were appointed by the Governor of the State of Illinois. State law required an entity seeking to build a hospital, medical office building, or other medical facility in Illinois to obtain a permit, known as a “Certificate of Need” (“CON”), from the Planning Board prior to beginning construction.”
“REZKO used his relationship with certain State of Illinois officials, to ensure that REZKO and LEVINE had the ability to influence the actions of TRS and the Planning Board for the benefit of themselves and their nominees and associates.”
“4. It was further part of the scheme that REZKO sought to influence certain State of Illinois officials, in order to ensure that LEVINE, and persons allied with REZKO and LEVINE, retained and obtained memberships on the TRS Board and the Planning Board that enabled REZKO and LEVINE to influence the actions of those boards for the benefit of REZKO, LEVINE, and their nominees and associates. As part of this aspect of the scheme:”
From the indictment of
STUART LEVINE, JACOB KIFERBAUM, P. NICHOLAS HURTGEN
“The Illinois Health Facilities Planning Board (“Planning Board”) was a commission of the State of Illinois,
established by statute, whose members were appointed by the Governor of the State of Illinois. State law required an entity seeking to build a hospital, medical office building, or other medical facility in Illinois to obtain a permit, known as a “Certificate of Need” (“CON”), from the Planning Board prior to beginning construction.”
“7. It was further part of the scheme that LEVINE solicited a kickback of approximately $1.5 million from KIFERBAUM relating to the construction of Mercy Hospital’s Crystal Lake facility. KIFERBAUM agreed to pay a kickback, with the exact amount and manner of the payments to be determined at a later date. At LEVINE’s direction, the kickback proceeds were to be paid to Individual 1 pursuant to a sham consulting contract. LEVINE agreed to and did use his influence with the Planning Board to ensure that Mercy Hospital would and did receive approval of its application to build the Crystal Lake facility after it contracted with Kiferbaum Construction Company to build that facility. In voting for, and influencing other Planning Board members to vote for, the application for Mercy Hospital’s Crystal Lake facility, LEVINE concealed from the Planning Board his personal financial interest in the construction of the Crystal Lake facility. In furtherance of this aspect of the scheme:”
From the DR. Robert Weinstein Indictment.
“Investigation Special Agent that Levine never told WEINSTEIN that Rezko had influence over the Illinois Health Facilities Planning Board, whereas at the time WEINSTEIN made this statement and representation, WEINSTEIN knew the statement and representation was false because, in truth and fact, WEINSTEIN and Levine discussed Rezko’s influence over the Planning Board, including in a recorded conversation on April 21, 2004 in which they discussed Rezko’s involvement in the Planning Board and Levine explicitly advised WEINSTEIN of Rezko’s role in manipulating the Planning Board’s vote earlier that day on the CON application of Mercy Health System Corporation Hospital, as well as other Planning Board matters;
In violation of Title 18, United States Code, Section 1001(a)(2).”
From the indictment of
ROD BLAGOJEVICH, CHRISTOPHER KELLY, ALONZO MONK, WILLIAM F. CELLINI, SR., JOHN HARRIS, and ROBERT BLAGOJEVICH
“It was further part of the conspiracy that defendants ROD BLAGOJEVICH and KELLY, along with Monk, Cellini, Robert Blagojevich, Harris, Rezko, and Levine, and others, used and attempted to use the powers of the Office of the Governor and of certain state boards and commissions subject to the influence of the Office of the Governor, to take and cause governmental actions, including: appointments to boards and commissions; the awarding of state business, grants, and investment fund allocations; the enactment of legislation and executive orders; and the appointment of a United States Senator; in exchange for financial benefits for themselves and others, including campaign contributions for ROD BLAGOJEVICH, money for themselves, and employment for ROD BLAGOJEVICH and his wife.”
“Rezko arranged for a total of $50,000 in contributions to Friends of Blagojevich from Ali Ata, a Chicago-area businessman, and in exchange for those contributions discussed with Ata, ROD BLAGOJEVICH, and Monk obtaining a high-level state appointment for Ata, whom ROD BLAGOJEVICH ultimately appointed as the executive director of the Illinois Finance Authority;”
Pay attention to the following. It is but one of many examples of Obama’s connections to shady dealings in Chicago. However, it is strong one and well documented.
Barack Obama’s role in rigging the IL Health Facilities Planning Board
The number of members was reduced from 15 to 9 and therefore allowed Tony Rezko, Stuart Levine and Rod Blagojevich to control the board with only 5 members.
From Journalist Evelyn Pringle.
“Curtain Time Part II will show that Obama was the inside guy in the Illinois senate as far as setting up the Health Facilities Planning Board to extort contributions from companies in exchange for the approval of applications to build medial facilities.
Obama was chairman of the Senate Health & Human Services Committee in January 2003. A few articles in the media have mentioned that Obama sat on a committee that reviewed matters related to the Planning Board in conjunction with the Governor’s staff but none have discussed his integral part in getting the bill passed
A review of senate records from January 2003 to August 2003, shows Obama played a major role as chairman of that committee, in pushing through Senate Bill 1332, that led to the “Illinois Health Facilities Planning Act,” which reduced the number of members on the Board from 15 to 9, making the votes much easier to rig.
Democratic Senator Susan Garrett sponsored the bill in the senate, and the chief co-sponsor was Republican Senator Dale Righter. These two senators were also on the Human Services Committee with Obama.
The bill was filed with the senate secretary on February 20, 2003, and assigned to Human Services Committee for review on February 27. Less than a month later, as chairman, Obama sent word that the bill should be passed on March 13, 2003.
On May 31, 2003, the House and Senate passed the bill and the only senator listed in the “yes” votes mentioned in the Board Games indictments is Obama.
Blagojevich made the effective date June 27, 2003, and the co-schemers already had the people lined up to stack the Board and rig the votes with full approval from Obama.
As discussed fully in Curtain Time for Obama Part 1, the Republicans and Democrats worked together in setting up the Planning Board scheme because the Combine as a whole would profit.
During the trial, Stuart Levine testified that when he sought reappointment to the Planning Board, he told Republican co-schemer, Bill Cellini, to tell the Blagojevich administration he would vote however they wanted when approving projects.
He told the jury he had the same understanding with the two prior Republican governors, Jim Edgar, and George Ryan, who is now sitting in prison due to Fitzgerald’s successful prosecution of a corruption case against him.
A June 2003 email exchange produced in the trial shows Obama was one of eight officials who received the names of the nominees for the new Board ahead of time, from the office of David Wilhelm, who headed Blagojevich’s 2002 campaign for governor.
Tony Rezko’s name does not appear in the email. In fact, his attorney made the point to the jury that the exchange was from Blagojevich’s general counsel, Susan Lichtenstein, and Wilhelm’s office, and indicated the appointees were recommended by Wilhelm and supported by those who received the memo.
The memo said, “we worked closely over the past six months” with eight officials including three state senators.
Jennifer Thomas, a former aide in Blagojevich’s patronage office, testified that she attended regular weekly meetings at Rezko’s office between the spring of 2003 and November 2004, and Rezko floated names and specifically said Levine should be reappointed to the new Board.
The Senate bill said, the “Board shall be appointed by the Governor, with the advice and consent of the Senate.” But the Senate Confirmation Hearings were a joke. For instance, the Feds recorded Levine talking to co-schemer, Jon Bauman, the day Levine learned he was approved by the Senate from the executive secretary of the Board.
Levine told Bauman he ran into Jeffrey Marks, who said “congratulations on your appointment,” and Levine asked for what. Marks said, “well the Senate Confirmation Hearings on Health Facility Plan Board members.”
He told Levine Senate President, Emil Jones, only allowed 2 members to be approved and “that was you and the other person he just put in.”
“Isn’t that hysterical ’cause you know they had this big battle going on,” Levine told Bauman.
Laughing away, Levine said, “don’t you just love it.”
“I’m one of those independents and not part of the block.”
“Well, good, you know it’s good to be just a true independent civil servant,” Bauman said laughing along with Levine.
“Is, is that a good thing,” Levine replied, “I’ve never been that.”
Corrupt appointees fund Obama and Blagojevich campaigns
The corrupt new appointees were all contributors to the presidential hopeful, Blagojevich, and the US senate hopeful Obama.
The previous Act allowed the Board itself to select a “Chairman and other officers as deemed necessary.” But the new law stated: “The Governor shall designate one of the members to serve as Chairman and shall name as full-time Executive Secretary.”
The Board’s then sitting-chairman, Thomas Beck, who was originally appointed by a Republican governor, testified under a grant of immunity that he brought a $1,000 check to Rezko on July 15, 2003, to make sure Blagojevich reappointed him.
A few weeks later, Beck said, Rezko called to say he would be reappointed along with a Republican holdover Levine. Beck also testified that Rezko told him Blagojevich was set to appoint Rezko’s three doctor friends to complete the rigged voting bloc. He said he met the doctors in August 2003, at the first meeting of the new Board.
Dr Michel Malek gave Obama $10,000 a little over a month before the first meeting on June 30, 2003. He also donated $25,000 to Blagojevich three weeks later on July 25, 2003, and gave Obama another $500 in September 2003. Malek was an investor in Riverside Park.
Dr Fortunee Massuda donated $25,000 to Blagojevich on July 25, 2003, and gave a total of $2,000 to Obama on different dates. Massuda’s husband, Charles Hannon, is a co-schemer in the pension fund case and testified against Rezko in the trial.
Dr Imad Almanaseer contributed a total of $3,000 to Obama after he landed the appointment. On March 13, 2008, Almanaseer testified against Rezko and told the jury he was an investor in Rezko’s fast-food businesses.
This doctor’s son, Ahmed Almanaseer, was given a trade office intern position with the Department of Commerce and Economic Opportunity. Ahmed is president of HireIraqis.com a bilingual human resources “site aimed at linking Iraqi job seekers with the companies engaged in the reconstruction [in Iraq] efforts,” according to Rezko Watch/RBO. ”
Read more:
From the Chicago Tribune Tony Rezko Trial transcripts.
March 6, 2008; 12:29 a.m.
“Hamilton finished remarks after an hour. She did not mention the name of Democratic presidential contender Barack Obama, whose U.S. Senate campaign in 2004 allegedly was the beneficiary of $20,000 in campaign cash from intermediaries in the kickback schemes the government says were orchestrated by Rezko.”
March 10, 2008; 4:16 p.m.
“The name of Barack Obama, the Democratic front-runner for the presidential nomination, also appears in the e-mail as a member of a strategic team reviewing hospital board matters with the governor’s staff when he was a state senator. The hospital board was scheduled to be revamped in the summer of 2003.
Obama was then chairman of the Senate Committee on Health & Human Services. Other legislative leaders, including Madigan, were part of that review panel as well, according to the e-mail.”
March 13, 2008; 3:09 p.m.
“Dr. Imad Almanaseer is on the witness stand this afternoon, testifying about his links to Antoin “Tony” Rezko and his time on the Illinois Health Facilities Planning Board”.
“Almanaseer was appointed to the planning board in 2003 on Rezko’s recommendation. Prosecutors contend he became part of a five-member voting bloc on the board that followed Rezko’s wishes. Almanaseer said board Chairman Thomas Beck tried to steer his voting.”
March 19, 2008; 11:21 a.m.
“Prosecution witness Stuart Levine is walking jurors through the evolution of his relationship with defendant Tony Rezko. The two met at a dinner party shortly before the 2002 election in which Rezko’s close friend Rod Blagojevich was elected governor.”
“Levine said he met increasingly with Rezko in early 2003 after Blagojevich was sworn in as governor. On occasion, Levine said, Rezko described his close relationship with Blagojevich.
“He said that he had raised a great deal of money for Gov. Blagojevich and that he had great hopes and expectations that Gov. Blagojevich would run for president,” Levine recalled. “And although he knew it was a long shot, he was working toward that end.””
“”Mr. Rezko told me that he was able to have individuals appointed to state boards and was able to have individuals hired into state agencies and that he spoke very often — and in fact went over decisions — that Lon Monk would put into place,” Levine said.”
March 21, 2008; 12:10 p.m.
“Another government wiretap has been played with Antoin “Tony” Rezko’s voice on it, and this one could prove damaging to his defense. On the tape, recorded May 18, 2004, Rezko can be heard giving orders to political fixer Stuart Levine about how he wanted to manipulate the vote of one of Levine’s fellow members on the Illinois Health Facilities Planning board, Danalynn Rice.
On the call, Rezko is heard mentioning Chris Kelly, who with Rezko was one of the top fundraisers for Gov. Rod Blagojevich. Both Rezko and Kelly were key members of Blagojevich’s kitchen cabinet.
Rezko makes it clear in the phone call that Kelly, too, had been involved in trying to manipulate decisions of the hospital board, which Rezko has been charged with corrupting. Kelly apparently had called Levine earlier and told him he should be Rice’s mentor on the board, directing her to follow his lead on voting. Rice had been recently installed on the hospital panel at the insistence of a leader of the Laborers’ International Union, which had contributed more than $133,000 to Blagojevich’s campaign.”
I promised you more details. This is just the tip of the iceberg.
One thing is obvious, Rod Blagojevich’s alleged attempt to sell Obama’s old senate seat is minimal in the scheme of things. Another thing is obvious, Rod Blagojevich and Barack Obama are guilty as sin of long time crime and corruption.
Sadly, another thing is obvious. Fox News is not doing their job. Bill O’Reilly, Glenn Beck et al are covering for Obama. Here are some possible reasons.
Saudi pressure and ownership of Fox.
Bought out by Obama.
Threatened by Obama.
Fear of riots or reprisals if the truth emerges.
Ironically, Sean Hannity, who I respect the most on Fox, states repeatedly that journalism died in 2008.
USDOJ documents:
Citizen WElls 
If you go to the Mario Apuzzo website and actually read the Initial Appeals Brief of Jan 19, 2010, you’re in for a real eye-opener (as are the DOJ attorneys “defending” Obama using our tax money).
That’s doubly ironic since these attorneys – and their bosses – took an oath to defend the Constitution from enemies foreign AND domestic but they are now in the position of actually attacking that very document rather than defending it and are trying to get an obviously ineligible man to remain in an office he has never shown himself to be eligible to hold.
The wonderful Apuzzo Brief is a primer on both Constitutional law, the meaning of it, the Founders’ intent vis-a-vis Article II of the Constitution and a forceful put-down of the lies and misinformation put forth by the Obama Flying Monkeys such as “smrstrauss” and others.
I’d urge everyone to read the Initial Appeals Brief from Attorney Apuzzo’s website along with the many essays by both Mario Apuzzo AND his Lead Plaintiff, Charles F. Kerchner. While there, it would really help to donate even a small amount to the publicity/education fund presently used only for full-page newspaper ads in the Washington Times National Weekly Edition.
The Brief gives a very good overview of the original action AND it puts the lie to the many false arguments by the Obot Flying Monkeys about why BHO is either (their words) eligible to hold the office he now occupies OR that it (their words) doesn’t matter that he is not eligible. Your understanding of the relation of the U. S. Constitution to We The People will be forever enlightened.
Actually, Obama’s whole life seems to be nothing but a work of fiction. The man has never shown himself to be Constitutionally eligible to hold the office he now occupies.
If you’d like to see something from a different point of view, watch the two short videos below which, even though they start slowly and have a bit of fun, contain a wealth of factual data – more than we’ve seen from Obama.
In fact in the second video a famous senator is quoted speaking about someone that sounds for all the world like “Our Boy” and really strikes a chord.
Only thing is the senator was the Roman named Cicero speaking in 42 BC – but the message is still very directed and pertinent for all of us:
Three Little Words
Merry Christmas OmeriKa!!
http://bsimmons.wordpress.com/2008/08/23/obama-and-rezko-is-there-a-syrian-and-islamic-connection/
Good evening, GBAmerica. Thanks for the passages you posted last night.
http://illinoisreview.typepad.com/illinoisreview/2008/03/obama—rezko-.html
Latest Debra Medina art – awesome!
Sharing my note to Bill; he may never see it but thousands at CW may!
Re: Discourse with Palin 2 16 2010
Mr O’Reilly,
You are losing me as a viewer. Denigrating Patriots who hold up the Constitution is unseemly and discredits you and Fox News. Keep it up and you will lose thousands of viewers.
You appear very ill informed regarding the Constitutional requirement for a natural born citizen to be POTUS. Obama has repeatedly stated his Dad was Kenyan/British and Obama claims dual citizenship at birth. Obama knows he is unqualified. Forget about the birth certificate; it is a distraction and a false argument. Only a pinhead would use the term ‘birther’, a perjorative that condemns the user more than his target. It my opinion, each person who has taken an oath to defend the US Constitution, must speak out and act on this matter. Any one who has not, is abetting treasonous activity.
Do you really believe you can lie and persuade us, the same people you consider are wise enough to watch the Factor? Governor Palin would not fall for your leading and disingenuous questions. Good for her. Apparently Katie has better luck tricking her that you have. Even you must admit she handled your biased questioning with aplomb.
Get with it Bill. Obama is going down. Do not go down with him.
Respectfully, Bill G
CW thats your answer from beck and orielly the birth issue could go either way. What if he produces a birth cert that franklin marshalldavis is his father, then he is a citizen, its like playing russian roulette birth cert style. The massive massive corruption is what at stake, most obama zombies dont care about birth cert, but can understand major corruption. They know the birth cert issue but this is bigger than him not being qualified, its a bonafide corruption family with tentacles many and long involved. its going to take awhile to take this crime family down its bigger than the gambinos on steroids.
Beck has gone MAD! He’s now trashing Debra Medina as a Nazi.
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/125837
I think he’s losing it. He knows he screwed up the other day (look at how many sponsors he’s lost), and now that the back lash is slapping him senseless, he’s going over the edge.
For a guy we trusted to be a true Constitutional biding statesman, he sure is trashing the only true Constitutional statesman/woman in this race.
He’s a Perry supporting ‘closet’ Bilderberger!
Good evening Kim!!!
Your so welcome,anytime!
God Bless You!
http://www.beachwoodreporter.com/politics/obamas_auchi_problem.php
On the Manning Report today, Rev. Manning read his indictment of Obama that he intends to use on May 14th, pointing out that Obama was recruited by the CIA in 1980. Check it out!
I do not watch O’Rilly and Beck any more. They are traitors to their profession! Most of all they are two…. to faced Bas*ards in my opinion. Sorry, Mr. Wells! It is just how I feel!
GBAmerica, I’ve been vacillating about whether 0 is the antichrist or the false prophet. I guess if he gets a mortal wound and survives, we know which one he is!
We are having a illigal immigrant problem in our state. A owner of Hampton Inns and other motels had 14 illigal immigrants working to build his latest hotel. The sheriff arrested 14 of them and INS Department of US Citizenship ordered the sheriff to let them go! One is still in jail because there is a outstanding warrent for him. I have heard that the contractor brought them with him from Texas but the owner is claiming he knows nothing about it! haha 🙂
There is a lot of anger going on right now because they have a 11% unemployment rate. Our representatives are catching hell right now. I heard that it made the Fox news in our state!
Kim,
Your right!Just remember no matter what be strong,God is with us and he will let the truth be known!That is what gives me strength everyday.
Kim
Barry is the devil with purple lips! 🙂 🙂 🙂
CW…Is your phone red??? I think you have to have a red phone in order for Beck to call you!!! LOL:) 🙂 🙂
Off topic…can someone explain what this means? It was filed today.
Hey Beck we are waiting for you to call Mr. Wells! ( Fingers to eat) CALL Mr. Wells WE ARE WAITING BECK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hey, Beck…………. What goes around comes around moron!
I meant… fingers to ear 🙂
SueK
Where are you tonight? I have a question for you!
New Anti-Obama Billboard Pops Up in Iowa.
http://www.dittos-rush.com/2010/02/new-anti-obama-billboard-pops-up-in.html
JS.
Did you watch my Youtube video?
Glenn Beck insults Americans, military, US Constitution, Citizen Wells red phone challenge
February 17, 2010
Categories:
* Fox News
Michelle meets Huck
Despite recent tensions between Fox News and the White House, the first lady will soon be making an appearance on the network.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/michaelcalderone/0210/Michelle_meets_Huck.html
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citizenwells // February 17, 2010 at 8:19 pm
JS.
Did you watch my Youtube video?
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NO not yet….I will when I get a chance…..I have church tonight and have to leave soon….I will get to it though!
citizenwells // February 17, 2010 at 8:21 pm
Glenn Beck insults Americans, military, US Constitution, Citizen Wells red phone challenge
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okay….yes I did see that video before…..I didn’t remember the part about the red phone…..sorry……I like the Mickey Mouse posing with the phone…..maybe you should put a chicken with Mickey!!! 🙂
Check out the newest Obama billboard:
http://www.breitbart.tv/now-anti-obama-billboard-pops-up-in-iowa/
Does anyone really watch this idiot anymore or even care that he walks the face of the earth???
Maher Strikes Again: Americans ‘Not Bright Enough to Really Understand the Issues’
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/jeff-poor/2010/02/17/maher-strikes-again-americans-not-bright-enough-really-understand-issues#ixzz0fq8YAE9o
The downfall of the America….the Unions have taken over our economy and the manufacturing industry and want you to pay for their benefits and huge contracts!!
http://stossel.blogs.foxbusiness.com/2010/02/16/what-union-leaders-really-think/
““I’m not running a popularity contest here,” Mesley said. “If I’m the bad guy to the average citizen . . . and their taxes have go up to cover my raise, I’m very sorry about that, but I have to look out for myself and my membership.”
Mesley added: “As the president of the local, I will not accept ‘zeroes.’ If that means . . . ticking off some taxpayers, then so be it.””
JUst watched O’Reilly interview this investigative reporter who was in California interviewing people and they were laughing because all the drug addicts and pots head are 9/11 truthers and birthers. Is Fox gone nuts accusing us of being drug addicts???
All this talk of a missile hitting the Pentagon, this is far out stuff. Look, weren’t there any pictures right after the event that caught the plane or fragments of it at the site immediately after the crash? How about the people who helped with the cleanup or removed the wreckage? What do they have to say? Do they say there was no plane? I simply don’t understand this level of distrust of the government, that there is a thought out there that our government put to death 3,000 of our citizens and has been engaging in a massive coverup ever since. It just doesn’t make any sense. None.
Anyway, that’s the way I see it.
connie, did you see my post for you on the open thread? It’s from our mutual friend…
Marmar: 2 things, -Berg is appealing his dismissed case against Obam, and wants to present his argument for appeal orally.
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Gianni // February 17, 2010 at 8:59 pm
All this talk of a missile hitting the Pentagon, this is far out stuff. Look, weren’t there any pictures right after the event that caught the plane or fragments of it at the site immediately after the crash? How about the people who helped with the cleanup or removed the wreckage? What do they have to say? Do they say there was no plane? I simply don’t understand this level of distrust of the government, that there is a thought out there that our government put to death 3,000 of our citizens and has been engaging in a massive coverup ever since. It just doesn’t make any sense. None.
Anyway, that’s the way I see it.
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Yeah….someone else who believes the facts and not the myths!!!
What is a ‘scorched earth policy’???
The US Government is no stranger to killing American citizens as a pre-text to war, to gain public support to invade another country.
19 Arabs ( oops, 9 are confirmed still alive and holding jobs) attacked the US, but we invade Iraq and Afghanistan?
Did anyone remember the USS Liberty?
Received in email:
Here is why we must NEVER vote for anyone connected with the CFR, the Trilateral Commission, the Bilderbergs, etc or talks glowingly about international “cooperation” in matters of economics or law.
Case in point: Governor Perry is reported to be involved with the Mexican-US highway scam and to have attended a Bilderberg meeting, and talks glowingly about other questionable international schemes that would entangle us for decades.
American conservatives often overlook this most vital issue of sovereignty. It is why they keep voting for people who eventually want amnesty for lawbreakers and open borders.
http://patriotsforamerica.ning.com/group/patriotsforamericatexas/forum/topics/rick-perry-rino-i-report-you?commentId=2734278%3AComment%3A156561&groupId=2734278%3AGroup%3A57959
Let’s watch more closely than ever. A lot of these globalist fanatics talk a lot like conservatives, but they are anything but.
US sovereignty is like the Arctic ice. Once it is gone, can we get it back?
Don
So, the word is spreading about Perry.
I’ve never been able to settle in my mind exactly what happened on 9/11. While I was watching live as the first tower fell I said to my husband, “That’s really weird. It looks like an implosion.” Then the second tower fell the same way. I felt very uncomfortable. I thought that the buildings may have been “prepared” for the attacks, but at the time I assumed it was by jihadists working in conjunction with the terrorist on the planes. It never occurred to me that our government was involved. I am troubled by the many anomalies at all four sites and don’t know how anyone can be absolutely certain about what happened that day. Like the Kennedy assassination I doubt we will ever know the whole truth or will ever agree on what that truth really is.
Kim, I saw that. It was quiet interesting. Does anyone know how Medina is doing in the polls now?? Some folks are afraid to vote for her because if she doesn’t win that will leave Perry. I tried to tell that a vote for Kay is the same as voting for Perry. She will still pass the super highway, she calls it something else. I can’t get anyone to help. I have been sending out e-mails to the republicans I know. I am a democrat turned republican after the caucas fraud in Texas.
GBAmerica // February 17, 2010 at 7:54 pm
I read he stole billions from a country…that he would be in jail or hanged if he returned.
George…thank you for answering my question. I appreciate it! ;o)
Georgetown // February 17, 2010 at 9:00 pm
Marmar: 2 things, -Berg is appealing his dismissed case against Obam, and wants to present his argument for appeal orally.
Jacqlyn Smith. ………………………………………..
I believe there is a abbreviated motion shot of the plane hitting the Pentagon at Judicial Watch.com. I havn’t visited the site for many months mso I can’t say for sure if ti is still there. Worth a shot though. It used to be there. There was also links to other angles.
The idea that 9 of the 19 9/11 suicide attackers are still alive is, well, ludicrous. Who came up with this, Alex Jones? Jones is a flake and getting more dangerous day by day. He is getting a lot of people to believe ridiculous stuff.
Hey, go find these 9 dudes who are still alive, interview them, and ask them how they got out alive. What a crock!
Ginger // February 17, 2010 at 8:14 pm
I’m here, Ginger….shoot!
I used to be upset about the leftist attempt to intimidate beck’s advertisers into stopping advertising on beck’s show. Not anymore.
There is an article out saying that in the UK, beck has not had a single advertisement on in six days. All the advertisers have been intimidated into not running ads on his show.
You know what? At this point, I really couldn’t care less anymore. Do it to orielly, too.
Can anyone tell me what happened to Joe Biden’s Forehead? Did the botox explode?
SueK – any news in the Lyme diagnosis?
connie, hang in there. Many people are seeing the attacks by beck and mathews for what they are. The political class is scared of people who might expose them and thwart their plans.
I would even venture to say that it will help Debra Medina.
Keep at the naysayers!
Has anyone here seen Rev. Manning’s latest video. Its got new information.
JustMe, where are you?
Jacqlyn Smith………………………………….
I just visited Judicial Watch website, and the videos are still there. The aircraft is clearly shown as it passes behind the concrete pillar nearly at ground level you must watch closely because this aircraft was traveling at 400 plus MPH. so it is only briefly visible. You will see it in the upper right of the screen. There is some sort of concrete pillar which is directly in line with the view. You must watch closely right at the left side of the pillar at nearly ground level . The aircraft will appear as a very fleeting glimpse. Don’t be looking close up .The aircraft appears to pass behind the pillar at a distance of about 200′ -400 ‘in distance. It will look like a cream colored stripe moving very fast. You might have to replay it once or twice but you will see the aircraft. Be ready it is only for a fraction of a second.
Kim, This isn’t the video I posted. I think lots of Mannings videos are botisized. I will try again.
JS addendum You need to look at video #2. This is where the airplane appears.
Lets try this again
Kidmon // February 17, 2010 at 10:07 pm
Hi Kidmon,
Biden’s pickled…
Pursuing the Lyme as I can; down with a bug this week. Neurologist says he doesn’t think it’s MS, which is good. Gotta find out what it is!
Hard to type with guinea pig on lap….
The idea that 9 of the 19 9/11 suicide attackers are still alive is, well, ludicrous. Who came up with this, Alex Jones? Jones is a flake and getting more dangerous day by day. He is getting a lot of people to believe ridiculous stuff.
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Must I continue educating you?
Go to 1:12:00 (that’s 1 hour 12 min) and listen and learn.
Then go back to sleep, the government’s depending on it.
Jacqlyn Smith……………………………..
I recently read that somebody said George Bush was actually flying the plane! Must be a TRUTHER.
connie,
That may not be Manning’s video, but it is a video worth watching. As many have stated here, Medina’s race will be even more important than Brown’s.
Maybe all the passengers on the 9/11 jets are in witness protetion!!
SueK,
Good evening. Glad to hear someone is ruling out MS. Keep at it. Something will materialize.
SueK
The lap sitter is your new addition? How is he/she doing?
Glad to hear Doc doesn’t think it’s MS! I have a bug myself last week. Feeling much better now!
Hope you feel better soon!
Kidmon,
Biden is a Catholic, cafeteria style.
Today is Ash Wednesday, hence the ash on his forehead.
Kim
Well, if that doesn’t get my blood boiling! Catholic my rear! About as Catholic as Steve is Christian!
Excuse me! Kim = Fenley Girl
Fenley Girl! Shouldn’t the ash be in the design of a cross? Looked like someone punched his lights out!
Ginger // February 17, 2010 at 7:59 pm
Good for the Sheriff, someone who actually does his job.
Since when can INS order our Sheriffs around?
Hope the state officials issue injunctions against all things obama, and stand behind the Sheriff.
Enforcing the law means illegals have to go back where they came from.
Fenley Girl = Fernly Girl. I’ll get it right in a minute
Sue K.
A new guinea pig and good news to boot. Yes!
venice // February 17, 2010 at 10:31 pm
Evening, venice, and thanks!
I suspected MS wasn’t it with the negative spinal tap last year, and no brain changes this year. This is why I’m leaning towards Lyme, as the symptoms of that and MS mimic each other, right down to the demyelination.
The Neurologist doesn’t think it’s Lyme, but he’s an MS guy, so I will pursue that track. Gotta be an answer!
Listened to the tape explaining about cell phones not useable at FL320. Dont think many of the jets were at 32,000 feet taking of outta NY. Maybe the PA jet might have reached that altitude.
oldsalt78 @ 10:28,
I believe Jim Jones, i mean Alex Jones, said that Bush was flying the plane.
Donincalifornia…………………………………….
There is a group who call themselves OatheKeepers. You need to visit the website, and see what they are saying. A LEFT WING LOONEY calls them RIGHT WING CRAZIES,just because they uphold their belief in the Constitution. They are made up of both retired law enforcement personell, and both retired and active Military Personell. Michial Topok calls them right wing murderers. They have’nt murdered ANYONE. They have formed to be a deterrent to the murder of our citizens by Soetoro GOONS. They will grow very quickly, and will be a serious threat to Obama’s slimey goons. These are people who KNOW HOW, and WHEN TO fire upon an attacker. They aren’t little OBOT MORONS, they are formally educated people for the most part. I will say no more. If you want to know more visit the website.
connie @ 10:24 pm
The ever interesting Pastor Manning, it is hard to tell if Obama is a double, triple or quadruple agent and which country holds his highest allegiance, doesn’t seem like this one. Paychecks seems like he does nothing without getting paid. Is he getting paid by more than one country? Nothing like a CIA agent with ambition-this has got to be driving all the loyal CIA, FBI, T-men, G-men nuts. Why is Obama so attracted to corruption? It doesn’t get any lower than that cesspool of corruption South Side of Chicago. What secrets, involving what countries could be so important that America shreds the Constitution, Obama just doing a bluff? I can’t see many countries trusting this guy with too much, too often. I think most of the world is on to his act, except the media here in the states.
I double dare somebody to post Mannings video over at Red State…haaaaaaaaaa1
Kidmon // February 17, 2010 at 10:32 pm
Hi Kidmon,
Yes, Lucy is the new addition and gets upset when you put her back in her pen. She’s only a year old and likes to cling. Mitzi is being very aloof, so I put up a divider at night (the pen is large enough to do that); Lucy just wants to be friends; Mitzi’s a diva.
The problem with this non-MS diagnosis is that they had me in a sheer panic for a year. It went from a ‘90% chance I do have it’ to ‘don’t think you have it at this point.’ Geeze, if they’re not sure, don’t throw a debilitating disease possibility at patients and expect them not to be depressed! Shuddup about it!
Some bug…maybe H1N1 or seasonal flu; I’ll get it checked on Thursday. Just hunkering down and resting. Boss not happy, but he never is…
Glad you’re feeling bettah, and thanks, I’ll feel bettah soon, too :).
SueK -your new lap critter is going to be all right? glad that you are going for new tests to find out what the heck is really going on. I wonder how twe is and will you be prepared for when he comes back.
!?!! // February 17, 2010 at 10:42 pm
Hi !?!!,
Thanks!!
Yes, ‘Ellie Mae,’ now Lucy, is here and a doll! I just hope the two girlies can get along.
No MS for now, but it’s definitely something. At this age, I’d expect the ‘old arthrit’ (as my Aunt says) to creep in, but these are neurological symptoms. Something’s causing them.
Will dig and be a pain in some doc’s side until we figure it all out.
SueK-Peter Francisco @ 10:52 pm
A lullaby for your new baby Lucy
Peter-thank you for yesterdays Groucho and Jack Benny video, the looks on their faces were priceless-so funny.
SueK @ 10:52
oops duh
Michelle // February 17, 2010 at 10:53 pm
SueK -your new lap critter is going to be all right? glad that you are going for new tests to find out what the heck is really going on. I wonder how twe is and will you be prepared for when he comes back.
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Hey Michelle,
Sure, she’ll be OK. I introduced them slowly, but Mitzi’s being an old snot.
I’ll go for the blood tests as soon as this bug lets me go-not a lot of ambition these days.
Haven’t heard from twe-probably busy with Mom. I’ll make sure the rug protector is back in place, but I must say that no one is a delinquent like little Mimi was….
Here’s a real change. lol Remember the first meetings — how hard to get tickets?
Obama is a has been.
Las Vegas Sun
Town hall meeting part of Obama’s visit to Vegas
The Associated Press
Tuesday, Feb. 16, 2010 | 6:01 p.m.
The White House says it is offering free tickets to a Friday town hall meeting with President Barack Obama during his visit to Las Vegas.
http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2010/feb/16/town-hall-meeting-part-of-obamas-visit-to-vegas/
Maddie, twe, army dav — I miss your comments. Praying for all.
Good night!
SueK-delinquent like little Mimi was….as Mother Teresa says Love them anyway.
what Mother did not say and it is true-this is not easy, it takes work. To be brutally honest I don’t love Obama, I don’t hate him, but I do hate his actions to pieces, my only hope is that justice catches up with him. I think in that act, many problems in our country will be resolved.
http://www.sethbarnes.com/?filename=mother-teresas-poem-anyway
ANYWAY
People are unreasonable, illogical, and self-centered.
Love them anyway.
If you are kind, people may accuse you of selfish ulterior motives.
Be kind anyway.
If you are successful, you will win some false friends and true enemies.
Succeed anyway.
The good you do today will be forgotten tomorrow.
Be good anyway.
Honesty and frankness will make you vulnerable.
Be honest and frank anyway.
What you spend years building may be destroyed overnight.
Build anyway.
People need help but will attack you if you help them.
Help them anyway.
In the final analysis, it is between you and God.
It was never between you and them anyway.
Kent Keith originated this poem in 1968, and Mother Teresa placed it on her children’s home in Calcutta in a slightly different version. As a result, many have attributed it to Mother Teresa.
The South, you rock!!
!?!!, I guess he must be running out of our money, he used to pay ACORN and SEIU thugs to be there.
Fernley Girl, Don’t be fooled by conspiracy theories about what happened on 9/11. It all went down just like you saw it on television with your own eyes.
Damage to the buildings was caused by two planes, full of fuel, one each, flown into each tower, with the resulting fire, and the destruction of the steel beams making up the skeleton of each building.
The structures were fatally damaged by the planes, and further weakening of the remaining steel with intense fire from the burning fuel and furnishings caused the collapse. Not some team of fictional demolition experts.
Remember, the terrorists wanted the destruction of those towers because they believed they were killing many Jews in those buildings.
They accelerated those planes to about 580mph, in an effort to cause maximum damage, to destroy the towers, and what the planes didn’t destroy, fire,heat, and gravity did.
WOW Bush must have one hell of a constitution. To walk away from a 400 mph impact with a DOUBLE walled stone building is something else. How do they do that Alex?…. Hey Alex where are you?
Sue K. –
Well, Lucy’s one lucky g.p. She has landed in happiness city.
Lots of prayers going up from posters here must be getting through.
I’m glad MS is off the table, at least. What a relief.
I hope what the docs find is something not-so-bad and very treatable.
!?!! @ 11:07 pm
Just like when he was campaigning-appearances after a free concert. Hold on for a couple more weeks he may have to pay people to attend.
bob strauss @ 11:15
Thank you for stating the truth so clearly!
bob strauss @ 11:13 pm
Another point I think is the buildings were never designed for an assault like they received. We can all witness that type of thing on recent news. All the roofs collapsing due to snow. We lost a lot of roofs in Illinois near O’Hare-one story due to airport. Illinois normal snow 20″ so the roof spans were designed for that, the year we received 80″ the weight caused many roofs to fail.
oldsalt78 // February 17, 2010 at 10:47 pm
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I’ve been to the OathKeepers web site. They require an enrollment fee, which I don’t have. But, I go and stroll through everything I can.
Thanks for the info.
bob s ,dont forget all the dead witnesses that heard and saw explosions. They all seem to die in flukey ways
Steel doesn’t melt at the temperatures induced by jet fuel. It takes much hotter temperatures to melt steel.
The help of thermite will melt steel though.
Building 7 was the third building in the history of the world to fall because of an internal fire; the other two building’s that fell that day were the first.
History was made 3 times on that day.
The only 3 building in the history of the world to fall because of fire.
There’s even one clip of a BBC reporter, reporting building 7 has just fallen, and in the damn video you can see building 7 still standing right behind her.
How about that supposed terrorist that went down with the PA flight?
He made a public statement, that he was alive and never even heard of Pennsylvania.
CIA says no black boxes were found, but eye witness helped FBI investigators load them onto trucks and watched them haul them off into the sunset.
Go back to sleep sheeple.
Michelle // February 17, 2010 at 11:11 pm
Michelle, there will never be another Mimi; I adopted Lucy to give her a good home. I can’t save them all, but I can save one at a time…
I feel sorry for Barky-it must really suck to be him.
That piece is beautiful, and oh, so true! I’m keeping it.
Thanks for sharing!
I had never seen Professor Gates before Obama acted stupidly. This is a wonderful series, a lot of history-some heart breaking, interesting-many things the celebrities did not know about their own families. Very educational-all of our forefathers were awesome people.
http://www.pbs.org/wnet/facesofamerica/
About the Program
What made America? What makes us? These two questions are at the heart of the new PBS series Faces of America with Henry Louis Gates, Jr. The Harvard scholar turns to the latest tools of genealogy and genetics to explore the family histories of 12 renowned Americans — professor and poet Elizabeth Alexander, chef Mario Batali, comedian Stephen Colbert, novelist Louise Erdrich, journalist Malcolm Gladwell, actress Eva Longoria, musician Yo-Yo Ma, director Mike Nichols, Her Majesty Queen Noor, television host/heart surgeon Dr. Mehmet Oz, actress Meryl Streep, and figure skater Kristi Yamaguchi.
ticktock, People don’t understand how steel loses it’s strength when heated and is bent out of shape.
The remaining structure, at the level of the impact, was holding up the equivalent of a thirty story building. That is a massive amount of weight. Weaken the remaining steel with fire, and the wind blowing on it like a bellows, and the damaged floors could no longer hold up the rest of the structure. The rest is history.
!?!! // February 17, 2010 at 11:15 pm
Thanks, c.n.d.e., all around!
We have to go through the adjustment period, but she should be fine.
Will pursue what ails me; I don’t mind whatever it is, as long as some relief can be had.
Prayers always help in fact, there’s never a time when they don’t help!
Michelle // February 17, 2010 at 11:15 pm
LOL!
Ain’t it the truth!
Bob Strauss………………………………….
Are you aware that flight 93 never happened in Pennsylvania The crater in the ground resulted from a missile fired by George Bush to make it appear that an airplane had crashed. The airplane was really ordered shot down by BUSH, after the airplane went out over open sea. Hey Alex how does that sound to you?pretty real?
CW,
This is an amazing post with ton of research to go along with it.
Thanks for putting it up.
All I can say is that they’re all ‘rotten to the core.’ Wonder when the apple will explode…
Michelle,
Thanks for posting the video Sunday of the demolition of 1515 Flagler. I finally realized which building it was.
bob strauss,
I never said I was swayed by the conspiracy theorists. I said I was uncomfortable with what I saw when I saw it live, as it happened. I have serious doubts that a handful of men could pull that off, without assistance. I never said our government was complicit, but that I thought FROM DAY ONE that other jihadists helped. Can you say with absolute certainty that no one, with the exception of those named by the 9/11 commission, was involved? You must not believe that this country has American-hating jihadists just waiting to do more harm. I have seldom in my entire life taken anything at face value. Maybe my nic should be “Doubting Thomasina”!!!!
SueK @ 11:27 pm
You like the naughty ones just like me, the wild childs. They are a challenge.
“I feel sorry for Barky-it must really suck to be him.”
I don’t feel sorry for him, I don’t know who conned him into taking the potus job, but he could have and should have said NO. He knew he wasn’t eligible. CIA? Traitor? both? extortionist? the whole thing is creepy. Trying to tell the players without a score card. We know darn well he is not doing whatever he is doing alone. He’s not that bright, someone is leading him.
Richard @ 11:34 pm
re: West Palm Beach a good time was had by all, they do it up big down here. Lots of views, many were on boats-check out all the views.
truthbetold, Yes I believe they did hear explosions. Have you ever seen or heard an aerosol can explode when thrown into a fire? It’s very loud and quite impressive. Those cans are everywhere, spray deodorant, spray paint, room freshener, all potential bombs.
Yes I believe the people heard explosions, but what they heard was probably exploding aerosol cans and any other vessel that would contain pressure when heated.
Michelle // February 17, 2010 at 11:34 pm
I didn’t know about the delinquency until she got here….She must’ve been very happy and content to show that side of her. Just wish I could’ve saved her.
What I meant by feeling sorry for Barky was how the heck do you live with delusions of grandeur like he does? I also wonder how many people are blackmailing him, threatening to sing about his lack of eligibility if he doesn’t (fill in the blank). I believe that’s what’s going on. Blackmail, and the puppetmaster (Soros) and others behind everything.
I don’t think I could live under stress like that.
Of course he knows he’s ineligible-he said it himself. If we remember that he was installed, it’s easier to see his strings being pulled. I think we’d be amazed at how many people are actually pulling those strings!
ive never been a truther but some questions are unanswered, Magic plumbing has ties to michelle obama, they did work at world trade center, obama from manning report worked for cia, he holds stuff over the usa heads, thats why he wants miranda rights, so when he is questioned he can sing like a canary, about usa special opps. it all blackmail against citizens, Obama is somehow tied to 9/11. but the truth is hard to come by these days.
Sue K. –
So true about prayer. Getting answers is really great, too. One thing we have going for us that BO doesn’t, also.
Yeah. Not being BO is a wonderful thing.
Todd Beamer: “Let’s roll…”
Gino DiSimone: “God be with us as we take this tyrant down, fast and hard…”
Gino DiSimone, Candidate
Governor of Nevada 2010, Independent non-partisan
http://www.ginoforgov.com
Fernley Girl, After being involved in this eligibility issue for as long as we have, I think we are all more skeptical than we use to be. The “sure thing” has become harder to come by with our current government at the helm.
SueK @ 11:41 pm
I mean this in the kindest way possible, but I think Obama is insane-certifiable. He is going to end up like the Hitler guy in those videos they show all the time-mentally hanging by a thread. I don’t think even he realized what he was getting into and for such ace planners, they sure left a lot of evidence laying around. Somebody screwed up big time, we should have never been the wiser. Did Obama lie to them, by the time they found out about his secret life the plot was too far along? The worst opera librettos are written better than this farce.
Benaiah @ 11:46 pm
I hope this man wins, he sounds good. So many good people are rising. Thank you Tea Parties.
truthbetold11 @ 11:46 pm
Obama gets arrested for treason, and is held in confinement, how does he hold anything over the governments head, which theoretically is WE THE PEOPLE.
Donincalifornia………………………….
Just thought I would pass it on to you. I sort of thought you would appreciate it. If for no other reason than what it implies.
Next time you are at the supermarket look and see if your store has any canned Libby’s pumpkin in stock. I am trying to determine just how much of the US is affected by the water turn off to the California farmers, by MMMSSS.PELOSI,MMMSSS. FEINSTEIN, AND MMMSSS BOXHEAD. PELOSI IS IN BED WITH THE CALIFORNIA FISHERIES A -HOLES, and one thing is certain they don’t give a damn about whether the farmers survive or not. All three of these halfwits need to be voted out of office.
oldsalt78 // February 17, 2010 at 11:55 pm
Next time you are at the supermarket look and see if your store has any canned Libby’s pumpkin in stock.
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I’ll take a look and see what I can find. I don’t normally look for anything pumpkin, but will look for you.
South, I watched the video in its totality. I have to say as I have watched Glenn Beck and O’Reilly today go after poor Debra Medina, I wonder if this could be true. They don’t want outsiders in D.C. that’s for sure.
You Barbara Bush was hospitalized several months ago for an ulcer. I can bet they worry all the time.
Michelle, Well have we ever thought if Obama really has those ties to Afganistan/Pakistan and is an ex-cia agent, maybe he knows the truth about 9/11 and he’s holding it over the heads of those responsible? If he is what Manning says he is, then it has to be something big and something that would bring down a multitude of people.
Hey Alex……… Do you know that Up is really down, and left is really right? George Bush wrote an executive order that officially makes this law.In reading that little morsel of data I thought I would try to walk on my ceiling, if UP is down then walking on my ceiling should be a piece of cake. I have been trying to walk on my ceilings for over 25 minutes now and for some reason gravity keeps interfering. Mother nature hasn’t yet read George Bushes XO. That must be why. Have any ideas Alex?
Oh, I have been a Bilderberg watcher for a long, long time. Those folks are up to no good and they for sure have enough money to pull off a twin tower take down. I feel like these are the folks who took out JFK. I been watching Alex Jones for a long time.
I know the Medina election could be larger than Brown, but why are we not getting the help on the internet like we did for scott brown??
Michelle // February 17, 2010 at 11:47 pm
Michelle, no need to preface your comment; he does show many signs of mental illness, not the least of which is narcissism. There looks to be some bipolar disorder thrown in there for good measure, and I’m sure he’s had depressive episodes throughout his life. I also feel that there’s a very bad temper lurking under that cool facade.
Drug use will do that to ya.
To be honest, I don’t think he’s bright enough to orchestrate much of anything, but I do think he knows how to play the money/power game.
And that’s what it’s all about.
G’night!
connie, IMO Scott Brown, for all of his fighting spirit exhibited in his campaign, is a Massachusetts Republican, which is not very conservative. The Republican incumbent moderates got behind him. He ran against health care, as the 41st vote, however, if Pelosi and Reid pull their tricks and do the nuclear option, they don’t have to worry about his vote anyway. The actual conservative in that election got ignored.
The remaining structure, at the level of the impact, was holding up the equivalent of a thirty story building. That is a massive amount of weight. Weaken the remaining steel with fire, and the wind blowing on it like a bellows, and the damaged floors could no longer hold up the rest of the structure. The rest is history.
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Still asleep I see.
Your theory would be plausible, if the fire was at the BOTTOM of the buildings.
Where did the planes hit the WTC’s again?
Uhhhhhhhhh, the videos I’ve seen, show them hitting the TOP of the towers.
How in the hell does a fire at the top of the tower weaken the bottom floor as you say, and the bottom beams are under stress?
I swear those planes hit the TOP of the towers, and not the bottom.
But, maybe you seen a different video than the rest of us.
What weakened those beams on ground level that’s holding up the tower?
I know! Must have been a candle in the lobby of the first floor.
Well I ‘ve come to the understanding why I can’t get any help for Medina is that people are just stupid, they think the Trans-Texas -Corridor would help if there was hurricane evacuation. OMG, theres no help for these people. This is exactly how the globalists want us, stupid.
I talked to a friend of mine last night, I think Australia might be a good place to move.
bob strauss,
I didn’t even know there were 9/11 conspiracy theorists until I started checking on the internet for political information on the elections in July or August of ’08. I had my doubts from day one of the attacks, but they weren’t about the government. It was simply about how the attacks happened.
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oldsalt78 // February 17, 2010 at 10:18 pm
Jacqlyn Smith………………………………….
I just visited Judicial Watch website, and the videos are still there. The aircraft is clearly shown as it passes behind the concrete pillar nearly at ground level you must watch closely because this aircraft was traveling at 400 plus MPH. so it is only briefly visible. You will see it in the upper right of the screen. There is some sort of concrete pillar which is directly in line with the view. You must watch closely right at the left side of the pillar at nearly ground level . The aircraft will appear as a very fleeting glimpse. Don’t be looking close up .The aircraft appears to pass behind the pillar at a distance of about 200′ -400 ‘in distance. It will look like a cream colored stripe moving very fast. You might have to replay it once or twice but you will see the aircraft. Be ready it is only for a fraction of a second.
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Thanks OldSalt….I will check it out when I get a chance but I’m not the one you have to convince…..I know it was a plane…..the witnesses all say so…..no one saw a missile!
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oldsalt78 // February 17, 2010 at 10:28 pm
Jacqlyn Smith……………………………..
I recently read that somebody said George Bush was actually flying the plane! Must be a TRUTHER.
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There’s plenty of them here….that’s for sure!!!!
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Rocknee // February 17, 2010 at 10:31 pm
Maybe all the passengers on the 9/11 jets are in witness protetion!!
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HA….Good one Rocknee! 🙂
Someone answer me this:
Why would the Government/CIA lie about supposed terrorist attacking the building, and those terrorist later end up giving live statements that they were not involved, and were alive and working at their jobs?
Why would everything else in those fires be burned to liquid, but the passports of the terrorist be found live and well?
9 of the alleged OFFICIAL reported terrorist who flew planes into the WTC’s have given sworn statements, that they are alive and doing well.
Why did Bin Laden and others release letters to the west, and the Mossad, that they had nothing to do with the attacks?
Isn’t that something they would be proud of?
You apparently haven’t watched this film.
But I doubt if you did, you’d admit it.
I choose to think for myself, but my Government would rather I didn’t.
Kim // February 18, 2010 at 12:28 am
Who? Kennedy?
Kim, they would’ve chewed him up and spit him out!
He needs to run for either state Senator or Rep. before he even considers national office.
People talk about Palin with little experience; although this guy had a decent platform, he needs a little more under his belt before a run for Congress.
And I’m here in MA; this is what the popular opinion of Kennedy was…..good, but too green.
I’d like to see him hold a state position then, on to bigger things. The timing here was off.
Richard // February 17, 2010 at 10:46 pm
oldsalt78 @ 10:28,
I believe Jim Jones, i mean Alex Jones, said that Bush was flying the plane.
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I think it was his evil twin or his mini-me!!
South and anyone else interested, watch this video.
Two brothers just happened to be doing a documentary on FDNY and were there when the first tower was hit. They went to the lobby and videotaped everything. They didn’t tape the people coming out of the elevators, they were on fire, the jet fuel had shot down the elevator shafts, and that’s how it was damaged below where the planes hit. Very interesting documentary. There are 11 parts total on youtube. This is the just the first one.
SueK, all that you said is true. Another reason why Scott Brown got the support that he did.
I was behind Brown all the way too.
I hope that we’ll start getting stronger conservative (Constitutional) candidates out there. I believe we will, as the tea party movement continues to shake off any hijackers.
oldsalt78 // February 17, 2010 at 10:47 pm
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Old Salt……Yeah…..I heard that guy too…..talk about a looney tune!
!?!! // February 17, 2010 at 11:07 pm
Here’s a real change. lol Remember the first meetings — how hard to get tickets?
Obama is a has been.
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No one I know is going…..I wouldn’t waste the gas!
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The South // February 17, 2010 at 11:27 pm
Steel doesn’t melt at the temperatures induced by jet fuel. It takes much hotter temperatures to melt steel.
The help of thermite will melt steel though.
Building 7 was the third building in the history of the world to fall because of an internal fire; the other two building’s that fell that day were the first.
History was made 3 times on that day.
The only 3 building in the history of the world to fall because of fire.
There’s even one clip of a BBC reporter, reporting building 7 has just fallen, and in the damn video you can see building 7 still standing right behind her.
How about that supposed terrorist that went down with the PA flight?
He made a public statement, that he was alive and never even heard of Pennsylvania.
CIA says no black boxes were found, but eye witness helped FBI investigators load them onto trucks and watched them haul them off into the sunset.
Go back to sleep sheeple.
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None of this is true and has been debunked many times….but go ahead and follow Alex Jones over that cliff!!!!
South, What I did quiet understand in that video was about the gold. Was the guy say the gold was being moved out with the buildings went down or what?? I did get that meaning. I do remember them getting it out though. Once they got this gold out, no one seem to care about anything after that.
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bob strauss // February 17, 2010 at 11:30 pm
ticktock, People don’t understand how steel loses it’s strength when heated and is bent out of shape.
The remaining structure, at the level of the impact, was holding up the equivalent of a thirty story building. That is a massive amount of weight. Weaken the remaining steel with fire, and the wind blowing on it like a bellows, and the damaged floors could no longer hold up the rest of the structure. The rest is history.
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Bob…..the stuff floating here yesterday and today is nonsense…..witnesses to the attack tell the truth…..no one witnessed a missile going into the Pentagon……witnesses saw and heard flight 93 go down in a field…..Todd Beamer was in contact with his family right before they commandeered the plane away from the White House…..that is where 93 was headed!!!
I saw the plane go into the second tower myself on tv…..my husband notified me that the first one went into the first tower…..when I turned on the tv there was the second on!
You are right about the fire weakening everything too…..go here and read and see the truth…
Multiple people saw the plane with the wings tipping up and down.
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread79655/pg1
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oldsalt78 // February 17, 2010 at 11:33 pm
Bob Strauss………………………………….
Are you aware that flight 93 never happened in Pennsylvania The crater in the ground resulted from a missile fired by George Bush to make it appear that an airplane had crashed. The airplane was really ordered shot down by BUSH, after the airplane went out over open sea. Hey Alex how does that sound to you?pretty real?
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Old Salt…..You are cracking me up old man!!!:) 🙂 🙂
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Benaiah // February 17, 2010 at 11:46 pm
Todd Beamer: “Let’s roll…”
Gino DiSimone: “God be with us as we take this tyrant down, fast and hard…”
Gino DiSimone, Candidate
Governor of Nevada 2010, Independent non-partisan
http://www.ginoforgov.com
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Benaiah…..Thanks for posting this I will spread it around!! 🙂
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connie // February 18, 2010 at 12:18 am
Oh, I have been a Bilderberg watcher for a long, long time. Those folks are up to no good and they for sure have enough money to pull off a twin tower take down. I feel like these are the folks who took out JFK. I been watching Alex Jones for a long time.
I know the Medina election could be larger than Brown, but why are we not getting the help on the internet like we did for scott brown??
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She is getting a lot of bad publicity for not denying that she is a truther……the story went nation wide……the majority of the USA does not buy into Alex Jones BS….believe the witnesses that were at all 4 sites when the terrorist attacked our country….it is really quite simple!
The South // February 18, 2010 at 12:40 am
Someone answer me this:
Why would the Government/CIA lie about supposed terrorist attacking the building, and those terrorist later end up giving live statements that they were not involved, and were alive and working at their jobs?
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Will you post those live statements please……I doubt this is true either!
Why did Bin Laden and others release letters to the west, and the Mossad, that they had nothing to do with the attacks?
Isn’t that something they would be proud of?
You apparently haven’t watched this film.
But I doubt if you did, you’d admit it.
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You apparently haven’t seen this…….
Multiple people saw the plane with the wings tipping up and down.
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread79655/pg1
if you did you probably wouldn’t admit to it anyway!
tennbrock // February 18, 2010 at 12:50 am
South and anyone else interested, watch this video.
Two brothers just happened to be doing a documentary on FDNY and were there when the first tower was hit.
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thanks tennbrock……I doubt anything will help convince these die hard truthers here of anything that takes common sense to understand….they done drunk the Alex Jones kool-aid!
Of course what happens at the top of a skyscraper affects the whole building! Just like what happens at the bottom does. Buildings that tall SWAY..it’s part of the structure that keep them standing. If they don’t sway, they fall. Or if they sway too much they fall! Hitting the TOP of the buildings with force like that WILL cause the buildings to fall and fall hard. It also makes sense that they fell exactly the way they did because the whole entire structure was thrown off.
The planes weren’t toy planes. REAL planes, like they used can be turned into bombs put into the hands of the wrong people and that’s exactly what they did.
ticktock // February 18, 2010 at 1:42 am
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ticktock…..there you go…..thinking for yourself again and using plain old common sense…great job! 🙂 🙂 🙂
http://giveusliberty1776.blogspot.com/
Wednesday, February 17, 2010
Must read article from September, 2009…Is anyone paying attention?…
WOULD THESE TWO DOCUMENTS THROW PELOSI AND TOP DEMOCRATS INTO FELONY PRISON? INSTEAD OF HIDING THEIR FRAUD UPON AMERICA?
by DefendUSx September 08, 2009 13:53 noiri.blogspot.com
Pelosi signed two Official Certifications of Nomination for Obama and Biden at the DNC Convention last August. Read the language carefully and note the difference between them:
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A long article that explains a lot.
Well, once again it is bed time. Have a good night and may God bless each one of you and this great country!
I have mixed ideas about Glenn Beck. I believe he truly loves America, its history, and the constitution. He is exceptionally talented and is doing an outstanding job with the progressive material he presents. He is doing equally well in exposing and disclosing much of the government’s encroachment upon our personal freedom, income, and national security. I listen to him practically every day. I wish him his highest and best good. Glenn Beck seems to be a genuinely good guy. I sincerely trust other sponsors will come forward and support him. He commands a respectfully sized number of viewers. Advertisers would be wise to take advantage of that.
Yet, I feel there are some vitally important stories and issues that are diminishing the rule of the constitution, America’s national security and threatening the quality of American life as we know it to date, he seems to totally ignore. They are very, very controversial issues, I know. Nevertheless, they should at least be addressed in the same scholarly and objective way he presents most of his material.
Often what a person doesn’t say or do speaks louder than what he does say or do. Mr. Beck’s failure to deal with these issues makes me suspicious of every thing else he says he and does. If he is as sincere about the future of America, the rule of the Constitution, and our national security as he claims–then why does he avoid these crucial issues? If he has been advised by Fox news to avoid them–then is his pay check more important than his principles? If so–then how serious can his viewers take him? ie: 1.Obama’s eligibility based upon article II, section one of the Constitution NBC, 2. Is Obama a Muslim and deliberately covering for them as Obama said”If. . .I will side with the Muslims.”, 3. Obama’s Tony Rezko, Rod Blagojevitch, and more.
Most folks don’t put 2 and 2 together.
When you have tons of jet fuel burning can cascading in a mixture of steel, contrete, furniture and human bodies, you are likely to get a pulverized inferno, which due to the rapidity of the fall is both hot and too short lived to completely combust material.
The resulting chemical characteristics of the dust, which are claimed to support a thermite theory of the cause of the explosion, don’t support that at all; they support what I just said above.
In fact if the termite were the cause, there would have to be litterally tons of it in the buildings, and there was no place to put it.
However, chemically there were tons of fuel and human bodies and furniture, and when partially burnt the have the same chemical composition as what was found in the dust.
http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/02/18/okubo-gives-false-uipa-response-to-the-post-email/
now documented that Okubo gave false response…
Now documented that Palin rejects US Constitution, Article II, section 1, clause 5 as important
http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/02/18/palin-rejects-import-of-article-ii-section-1-clause-5-of-the-u-s-constitution/
As we moved to a new server, flush your dns cache on your browser before trying to get to those new urls, otherwise you wil get a 404 error…
SOUTH,
It is my opinion that Alex Jones is a complete idiot and a self willing one at that. Engineering and Mathematics is my specific educational background and I taught advanced statistics applied to engineering functions for 3 years during my 27 years in manufacturing employment. At the risk of not boring you to death with a 2 page equation solution, I will simply break this down for you (or others).
The implicit reason additional independent investigations will never yield a solution befitting enough to satisfy the majority of “truthers” is simple. At 6-levels of factors ie.. 1) The Airplane, 2) the Buildings, 3) intell, 4) immigrations, 5) high-jackers 6) policies, equates to n(n-1). What this means in laymen terms is that there are over 1 BILLION, yes that is 1,000,000,000 factor combinations! In other words, if you had 1 billion independent investigations, 1 of them would get the combinations correct enough to yield sufficient information results to satisfy the “truthers”.
The same is true with say…… a can of tuna. Consumers expect (and take for granted) a simple can of tuna to be present on the supermarket shelf whenever they decide to purchase it any given day. What the consumer is unaware of is the incredible almost miraculous effort in the private sector to make this happen. Using the same 6 factor level as above, 1) need to pull tuna from the sea, 2) need ships, 3) need ship builders, 4) need transportation (trucks, rail, 5) need transportation builders, 6) need supermarkets, also equates to 1 billion factor combinations in order to have a can of tuna on the self and stocked.
Do you think the Federal government could do this for the consumer better than the private sector? Of course not, but sounds pretty simple when you ask about a can of tuna. Now imagine the Government running our Health Care, which has about a 9 factor level!
On a last note, if Rosy O’Donnell believes anything and I believe the opposite of her, using the R-square regression analysis I have a 99.99999 percent chance of being correct. Do people have questions? Absolutely, including myself! However, mine are directed towards policies past, present and future.
Nothing wrong with asking questions, but Alex is far out of his league and obviously an idiot to skew the known facts making them much higher for error. Give me a structural engineer that says it’s impossible and I’ll give your 100 that say it’s possible.
I recently read that somebody said George Bush was actually flying the plane! Must be a TRUTHER.
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JJ // February 18, 2010 at 9:02 am
I recently read that somebody said George Bush was actually flying the plane! Must be a TRUTHER.
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That assessment in itself should speak volumes!!
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OKAY……
Sucking people into the truther movement with lies and myths is just as bad as the people who sucked others into voting for a FRAUD……IMO there’s way too many on this blog recently even if you are in the minority….that’s all….didn’t need volumes!!
William // February 18, 2010 at 7:22 am
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Yea……another voice for common sense! 🙂
John Charlton // February 18, 2010 at 6:17 am
Most folks don’t put 2 and 2 together.
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Thanks John…..more common sense here!
Here’s a theory regarding Beck. I hope it’s wrong. Beck grouped birthers & truthers together the other night & said they would love to hijack the tea party movement. Perhaps that’s why he used Medina, so he could have a reason to bring up 9/11 again. What’s he gonna do next, say they have, indeed, hijacked the movement & bring the tea party patriots down too? Sounds nuts, but you never know anymore.
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John Charlton // February 18, 2010 at 6:17 am
Most folks don’t put 2 and 2 together.
When you have tons of jet fuel burning can cascading in a mixture of steel, contrete, furniture and human bodies, you are likely to get a pulverized inferno, which due to the rapidity of the fall is both hot and too short lived to completely combust material.
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You are so right!!!!
Great assessment; and of course let’s move on to what brought down building #7 with two tiny fires seen in the center of the building evident by any picture we view.
Also, John, tell the viewers where the billions in gold stored in the basement of the tower is; or how about explaining the downloading of the information on that Swiss bank computer 5 minutes before the building fell.
Or why Silverstein, who had not missed a morning breakfast in the tower for 2 months, stayed away on 9/11…..
Explain to these fine people how a ‘renegade’ plane can fly around for 1 and 1/2 hours and not be taken out by NORAD with an Andrews Air Force Base just 10 miles away from Pentagon??……even the fighter pilots say they were directed to standdown…
Explain how the FBI, CIA lost tracking of ‘the’ terrorists on 9/10 and 9/11 who had been on their radar for years…
Explain why the STA missile wasn’t fired at the ‘unidentified incoming’ with our mulitbillion dollar defense system at the Pentagon….oops!!!
Explain why George W. Bush, Donald Rumsfeld, Richard Myers, Montague Winfield – all were found elsewhere during the actual attacks, other than assuming their duties as decision-makers.
Explain millions of ‘short-sells’ and ‘put-options’ on the two airlines…days before the attack
Since simulations for these attacks had been ongoing for years, why the lies from Condoleeza that NOONE suspected such an attack….SURPRISE!!
Explain why Ashcroft stopped flying commercial airlines, citing an unidentified “threat” in July 2001?
Explain why none of the 19 hijackers appeared on the passenger lists?
Explain how Arabs who failed flight school, bypassed the computerized flight plan that only an experienced airlines pilot could do??
Explain why Mohammed Atta left his drivers license in a rental car? pretty stupid, huh??
Explain how the passports of two hijackers survive the inferno to be found on the street near the World Trade Center…did they throw them out the window of the plane?? nope, didn’t think so.
Eexplain why NORAD which monitors 7000 flights a day, was unable to track the four hijacked flights??
Explain why Jeb Bush removed documents from Huffman Aviation which were put on a C130 government cargo plane and flown out of the country.
How did Mike Vreeland while in Russian jail show jailers info about the 9/11 attack days before it happened…..
Explain why protocol was followed with the Payne Stewart Lear jet incident but not on 9/11???
And these are only a few of the questions I have about 9/11….obviously, I have done my research, and don’t speak from lack of.
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