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Obama down low, gay sex rumors, Larry Sinclair, Lessig, Chicago restaurant owner speaks out

There have been many rumors and allegations about Obama doing drugs and being on the down low. Larry Sinclair alleged that he and Obama used drugs and had a gay sex encounter in a limousine in November 1999. A friend of Obama, Lawrence Lessig, was a former University of Chicago associate and is a big Obama supporter and advisor. Lessig is openly gay and has a radical gay agenda. A former Chicago restaurant owner heard persistent rumors about Obama. Here is her story:

As the Chicago-area chef and restaurateur mentioned in this posting, I’ve already provided information to Larry Sinclair’s attorney concerning the several dozen (at least) gay men who spoke with me about Obama’s sexual proclivities (specifically, his being on the “down low,” as they say). I began hearing these rumors in late 2000-early 2001, and continued to hear them until I closed my restaurant and dropped out of civilized society in 2003. These stories were from apparently unrelated sources, and the details in each, when such details were given, were consistent from story to story: always oral sex only, with Obama as the, well, I suppose “recipient” would be as good a word as any. Perhaps Rev. Wright failed to cover Acts 20:35, “it is more blessed to give than to receive.” In any case, the sheer volume of rumors was convincing enough for me… especially once the veracity of claims (some from some of the same men) regarding the similar proclivities of another area politician was subsequently confirmed to me several years later by an old reporter friend in Washington, DC. In my fairly long life experience, I’ve learned that bromides are so hackneyed precisely because they’re true, so… where there’s smoke, there’s generally going to be fire. These rumors seemed authentic to me, and the men telling them seemed quite sincere. Several of them claimed to have beeen with Obama, but most said that they’d learned of it through the firsthand experience of friends and acquaintances.

As for Lessig, he and Obama seem made for each other: two exceedingly pampered elitists clamoring for “genteel” socialism, with the bulk of us, not them, to pay the price. Lessig and Obama both portray themselves as Constitutionalists… in their cases I can only assume that means that they’ve read it and know it, not that they wholeheartedly support it. Personally, I’m so weary of the upending of the Constitution, that “goddamn piece of paper,” as Geo. Bush so, um, eloquently put it. Looking back, I think our founding fathers were quite right: “Government without a Constitution is power without a right” (Thomas Paine); “In Questions of Power, then, Let No More be Heard of Confidence in Man, but Bind him Down from Mischief with the Chains of the Constitution” (Thomas Jefferson).

And let’s not forget Ben Franklin: “I smell a rat.”

Obama, Wright, Lawrence Lessig, Larry Sinclair, Obama gay, down low, Jesus video, attention NC voters, primary voters

My friends in NC and the US. I mentioned that Jeremiah Wright and his sermons were just the tip of the iceberg. I have written about Obama’s associations with criminal elements, ties to the middle east and possible low down activity. There is a consistent theme in Obama’s history. Obama has been close to many gay people (this is not an anti gay message) and those who misuse or attack Christianity. Larry Sinclair has alleged a gay encounter with Obama in November 1999. A Chicago restaurant owner heard consistent rumors from the gay community about Obama.

Lawrence Lessig was an associate of Obama’s at the University of Chicago. Lawrence Lessig considers Obama a friend and has supported Obama on his website and in speaking engagements. Lessig is mentioned on Obama’s site as part of his technology initiative.

Lawrence Lessig is openly gay and has a radical opinion about gay rights. He also has radical ideas about intellectual property rights and government information. What is more disturbing to me is a video he produced and presented at a conference that mocks Jesus and portrays Jesus as Gay. Here is a link to view the videos:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JL1Z7_IMFs4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQtrQgtkYzc&feature=related

Here is a link to Lessig’s website where he talks about Obama:

http://lessig.org/blog/2004/03/barack_breaks_the_20_rule.html

Here is a link to Barack Obama’s website that mentions Lessig:

http://www.barackobama.com/2007/11/15/tech_leaders_announce_support.php

Now consider the following:

” Stanford Law Professor Lawrence Lessig likes to treat his audiences to a short video that doesn’t always go over so well. In it, Jesus Christ lip-syncs Gloria Gaynor’s late ’70s disco hit “I Will Survive,” during which he strips down to just a diaper, effeminately struts along a city street and finally gets run over by a speeding bus.

Lessig showed the film during his keynote address to the LinuxWorld Conference and Expo in San Francisco in 2006 (reportedly causing audience members to exit in disgust), as well as to an assembled group of Google employees recently.

The antics of a trendy left-wing law school teacher who doubles as cybergeek would normally be of little note. But a few years down the information superhighway we may be speaking of Justice Lawrence Lessig should Obama be elected president.”

Read more here:

http://nathanjmorton.wordpress.com/2008/04/25/another-odd-guru/

I urge anyone considering voting for Obama to do more research. This blog is a good place to start. I will be gald to answer questions.

Donald Young murder, Obama, Wright, Larry Sinclair, Obama and Wright feud

Everyone has been wondering why Jeremiah Wright and Obama have been attacking each other recently. I have been giving this a lot of thought. I certainly believe it is some sort of diversion. Obama is a master of diversions.

I have been reading the comments here, on my blog and elsewhere.
I have also been giving this a lot of thought.
Here is my thought process:
1. Donald Young may have been murdered by a professional hitman.
2. If this is the case, someone will have to talk to progress the case.
3. Let’s suppose Obama and Wright are aware of the murder details.
4. Neither of them will talk for fear of being an accessory.
5. The more Obama progresses, the more scrutiny will occur and the
more we will find out about his and Wright’s past.
6. Is the Obama and Wright controversy a plot to allow him to bow
out as the victim, save face and promote a smoother transition
to supporting Hillary?

I have heard similar thoughts from some of you. My thinking
yesterday was that it was a plot to salvage NC. Now I am more
inclined to believe the victim aspect.
What do you all think?

To learn more about Larry Sinclair’s allegations and the Donald Young murder investigation, click here:

http://larrysinclair0926.wordpress.com/2008/04/29/obama-wright-which-one-will-rat-the-other-out-first-over-the-donald-young-murder/

Larry Sinclair, Donald Young, Chicago Police, Detective McVickers, meeting next week, Attorney controversy

Larry Sinclair has just provided an update on the Chicago Police investigation into the death of choir director Donald Young. Young was the choir director at TUCC, Obama’s church. Sinclair states:

“I have agreed to meet in person with Chicago Police Detective McVickers on a date convenient to him next week.  I am sure the CPD has received a number of emails, calls and complaints from the very people who have continued to attack, smear and misrepresent me.  So people, please, give the Police a little bit of credit for knowing what there is to know about me. “

For more information on Donald Young, Larry Sinclair and Obama, visit:

http://larrysinclair0926.wordpress.com/2008/04/28/chicago-pd-meeting-and-ethical-high-priced-lawyers-add-another-one-to-the-list/#comment-5813 

Obama, Wright, Chicago Police Affadavit, Larry Sinclair, allegations, Donald Young murder

Larry Sinclair has posted a new blog entry about his Chicago Police affadavit regarding the murder of Donald Young. Sinclair comfirms that a Chicago Police detective wants to speak to him about the death of Donald Young, the gay former choir director at Obama’s church. Sinclair mentions that Obama and Jeremiah Wright may have trouble sleeping. Why does Sinclair mention that Wright may have trouble sleeping? I am following up on this and hope to get a clarification soon. Here is an exerpt from Larry Sinclair’s blog:

” Chicago PD Request: Is Obama & Rev. Wright Having Trouble Sleeping?
Posted on Thursday, April 24, 2008.

As reported yesterday the Chicago Police did leave a message on my answering machine and did later make contact with my Attorney Montgomery Sibley, in regards to the affidavit I provided the Chicago Police Department on April 1, 2008.

I can now confirm that the Detective (I will not identify for obvious reasons), is from the Chicago Police Department’s Homicide Division, Division 2.  I can further confirm that the Detective did state the Department would like to speak with me concerning the information in the affidavit in regards to the murder of Donald Young.

The date time and place of this meeting is still to be determined.

I would think that this (if the Chicago Police are truly seeking the truth into Mr. Young’s death, and not being used by the Obama/Axelrod machine), would be causing these two gentlemen some difficulty sleeping right now.”

You can read more about this story here:

http://larrysinclair0926.wordpress.com/2008/04/24/chicago-pd-request-is-obama-rev-wright-having-trouble-sleeping/

Obama gay sex rumors, down low, Chicago gay community, Chicago restaurant, Larry Sinclair

It is a fact that Barack Obama has used drugs. It is also a fact that Obama had associates such as Stuart Levine that were regular drug users with other men. It is also a fact that 2 gay men in Obama’s church, Donald Young and Larry Bland, were murdered late in 2007. Donald Young was the choir director.

Larry Sinclair has alleged that he and Obama had multiple encounters in Chicago between November 3 and November 8 1999. Sinclair alleged the first encounter was in a rented limousine where they used drugs and had gay sex. It is also documented that Obama was absent from the Illinois Senate on November 4, 1999. Is Obama on the down low?

Poster Delenn, has posted on multiple occasions on Larry Sinclair’s blog. She claims to be a former chef and owner of an upscale restaurant in Chicago. She further claims to have heard repeated rumors in the gay community in Chicago that Obama is gay. Here are 2 of her recent posts:

Delenn
Thursday, April 17, 2008

Mr. Sinclair:

Per your request, I’ve sent information concerning Chicago-area rumors I’ve heard regarding Mr. Obama’s sexual forays to your attorney, including my identity, contact information and the name of my restaurant. He is free to contact me for additional information. Given the hostility and vehemence of many of Mr. Obama’s supporters in this matter, I’ve asked him, and am now asking you, to keep my identity (and restaurant name and location) confidential… but I will gladly give a deposition regarding the rumors. if Mr. Sibley thinks it would be useful.

For the record: the more vicious and puerile your attackers become, the more I’m inclined to believe your story. I was stunned by the vehemence of the pro-Obama posters on the ABC debate blog — they seem to think than any genuine questioning of their candidate is somehow illicit, when it’s simply a vital and, in this case, too-long-delayed part of the political vetting process. And as for Big Head DC and similar sites… well, suffice it to say that the inane vitriol being spewed there seems likelier to turn voters away from the posters’ candidate than to persuade people against listening to your story with an open mind. And while the way you’ve chosen to live your life has at times surely been less than exemplary, I don’t see that as the red flag certain others have tried to turn it into… it makes complete sense to me that it would be exactly your “type” that would be sought by politicians and other high-profile supposedly straight individuals in search of secret gay liaissons.

Again, my choice not to support Mr. Obama is based on the political, not the personal: his records both as state senator and as junior US senator have been stupefyingly lackluster, and he has been caught in far too many political-arena lies. That his penchant for lying would extend beyond the political and into the personal realm simply makes good sense to me.

If I can be of further assistance, feel free to contact me.

Delenn
Thursday, April 17, 2008

Matt…

As I indicated before, I have no smoking guns. I can’t testify that I’m sure that Mr. Obama has had sex with anyone (including his wife, for that matter). My attesting to having heard numerous rumors regarding Mr. Obama’s sex life is not hearsay — I have, indeed, heard those claims more than a few times, and from apparently unconnected sources. I can’t verify those rumors, obviously, but I can surely attest to hearing them. My initial post, which was at another political commentary site, was in response to people saying there had never been rumors regarding Mr. Obama’s sexual tendencies and activities. I’m from the Chicago area, and have heard numerous rumors (from customers at my business) regarding that subject, and I wanted to refute the never-any-rumors crowd. So no, my saying that I’ve heard many rumors about this isn’t hearsay.

Thank you, Bon. And Victor, that was the other part of my original reason for posting on this at savagepolitics.com: to encourage others who have any knowledge regarding this to come forward.

ADDED BY LARRYYou do not need to answer these things. This is one of the reason’s I asked you to contact Mr. Sibley rather than me. I will let Mr. Sibley and you discuss any thing that may be valuable and of importance. I will tell you that today we have been offered the assistance of a private investigations firm as well. Before anyone ask, don’t ask because the firms name will not be disclosed.

To read more, click here:

http://larrysinclair0926.wordpress.com/2008/04/17/public-citizen-litigation-group-put-on-notice/ 

Larry Sinclair, Anderson Cooper, AC360, CNN, citizenwells, Obama campaign, conspiracy?, allegations

I posted yesterday, April 16, 2008 about Anderson Cooper’s blog on CNN, AC360, my comments that were approved and retained and Larry Sinclair’s comment that was moderated, approved and then removed. Other Larry Sinclair comments were not approved. I posed the question yesterday: Why was Larry Sinclair’s comment moderated, approved and then removed. Why would the Anderson Cooper “group” remove a comment they approved.

Yesterday I noticed that the post thread was still open. I also noticed that someone posted a derogatory comment about me that was approved by AC360. I posted a comment including the comment made about me and indicated that this was the kind of pesonal attack I had been receiving. The comment was awaiting moderation. I waited and then posted that I was still waiting. I noticed that the thread appeared to be open this morning and again posted that I was still waiting.

So, my question is: Anderson Cooper, AC360, CNN, Is the removal of Larry Sinclair’s comment and ignoring my subsequent comment the policy of the Anderson Cooper “group” or CNN or is this some rogue employee that is a die hard Obama supporter? Is this part of some organized conspiracy to prevent Obama from being questioned about his past?

I would like an answer from Anderson Cooper, AC360 or CNN.

Below are my comments that were retained and Larry Sinclair’s comment that was removed from April 15, 2008:

citizenwells   April 15th, 2008 6:31 pm ET

 
The real Obama?
Well, a lot of us are searching for the real Obama.
It has been made more difficult due to Obama not complying
with Illinois FOIA and records access laws and by his evasive
reponses.
What we know about Obama is scary enough.
Anyone with doubts should follow the Tony Rezko trial
and check out the Oprah site for her show in April
2004 about down low.
Citizen Wells
larrysinclair0926   April 15th, 2008 6:42 pm ET
 
There is another REAL Obama but AC 360 is scared to report it. Just ask Larry Sinclair
citizenwells   April 15th, 2008 6:47 pm ET
 
I have been researching Obama extensively and have written
quite a few articles about him.
I was initially a huge skeptic of Larry Sinclair. The more
I researched Obama and the more Larry was attacked personally
and the more I was attacked for asking simple questions, the
more believable Larry’s allegations are.
Obama is hiding something.
Look for some big news to break soon.
Below is the derogatory comment made about me and my comment that was ignored by AC360:
neecee   April 16th, 2008 2:45 am ET
 
citizenwells were you on the down low with Barak? I ask because you seem so confident in your comment.
 
I really like reading the blogs, however, sometimes I am aghast at some comments. I can only guess lack of intelligence, fear and hate are at the root of some of them.
 
I would like to believe that the DNC and their two candidates had the good sense and did not leave any stone unterned when it came to background issues. Just think, a black man – he knows americas will do what they can and if there is nothing they will fabricate something. Fox news!! LOL – get real, those folks are the devil incarnate….. are they taken seriously?
Hililary as a woman candidate knows that the misogynists will pick the skin off her bones.
Shame on them if the ‘good ole’ white boys’ find dinasaurs in their closets.
citizenwells   April 16th, 2008 4:37 pm ET
Your comment is awaiting moderation.
This is the type of personal attack I have been talking about:
 
neecee April 16th, 2008 2:45 am ET
 
“citizenwells were you on the down low with Barak? I ask because you seem so confident in your comment.”
 
This was posted here and approved by CNN
 
 
citizenwells   April 16th, 2008 7:31 pm ET
Your comment is awaiting moderation.
Still waiting for a response.
 
8:50 PM tried again
 
 
 
Please try the following:
 
Open the ac360.blogs.cnn.com home page, and then look for links to the information you want.
Click the  Refresh button, or try again later.
 
Click  Search to look for information on the Internet.
You can also see a list of related sites.
 
 
 
HTTP 500 – Internal server error
Internet Explorer  
Below is the attempt this morning, April 17, 2008:
citizenwells   April 17th, 2008 8:57 am ET
Your comment is awaiting moderation.
Still no response.
 
I know for a fact that there is an orchestrated campaign to discredit Larry Sinclair. Is CNN, AC360 or Anderson Cooper part of this? 
 

AC360 blog, Larry Sinclair, Obama, Anderson Cooper, CNN, Obama conspiracy?

Anderson Cooper 360, AC360, on CNN had an article on Tuesday, April 15, 2008, “In Search of Obama” and a blog for comments. I posted 2 comments which they moderated, accepted and retained. In between my comments, Larry Sinclair posted a short comment that was moderated, accepted and later removed. Here is Larry Sinclair’s comment:

 
“larrysinclair0926   April 15th, 2008 6:42 pm ET

 
There is another REAL Obama but AC 360 is scared to report it. Just ask Larry Sinclair”
The question is why did CNN and the Anderson Cooper blog staff remove Larry Sinclair’s comment after it was accepted? Other bloggers asking questions about MSM coverage of Obama and the Larry Sinclair allegations now claim that their comments have been removed. Sinclair and others claim that some of their comments were never accepted and that does not necessarily raise a red flag. However, a red flag is raised when a comment is moderated, accepted and then removed.
I am not generally a conspiracy theory person or one to jump to conclusions. However, I and many others have noticed a consistent effort by Obama supporters and the Obama campaign to attack personally and attempt to discredit anyone asking questions about Barack Obama. Many people believe that the main stream media has  given Obama a  free ride much of the time. Some believe that many in the media are afraid to ask serious questions about Obama for fear of being called racist. That is a real concern due to the fact that many Obama supporters and others in this country use the race card as a diversion.
So, CNN, Anderson Cooper, AC360, why did you remove the comment that was moderated and accepted? Are you part of the Obama campaign organized attempt to discredit those that question Obama’s past? Are you afraid of being called racist? Do you have a left wing liberal agenda?
In fairness to CNN, AC360, I must add that they allowed comments that questioned Obama’s past and referred to Larry Sinclair. What is it about the brief comment from Larry Sinclair that caused it to be removed? Some say that the MSM is watching the Sinclair story play out and waiting for the right moment to present it. Some say that Bill O’Reilly has made a reference to the Larry Sinclair allegations and has hinted he can present the story anytime.
For those of you unaware of the Larry Sinclair allegations, Sinclair alleges that he had multiple encounters with Barack Obama from November 3 to November 8, 1999. Sinclair alleges that Obama used drugs and engaged in oral sex with him in a rented limousine in the first encounter.
When I first heard this story I was very skeptical. I then went to the Illinois Senate records and discovered that Obama was absent from the senate on November 4 1999. I then began looking closely at Obama and his lack of records and evasive responses when asked about his records during the time frame when he was in the Illinois senate. When I considered Obama’s evasive attitude about his records and his past associations with racists, hate mongers, criminals and drug users, I began taking Sinclair’s allegations more seriously. I posted questions about Obama on my blog and other blogs. Many of the Obama supporters replied with personal attacks and attempts to discredit me. Some of these attacks were orchestrated, I believe, by the Obama campaign. The more that I visited the Larry Sinclair blog, the more I noticed he was being attacked. I also noticed that Larry was forthcoming about his past and always answered questions. Obama has not been cooperative when asked questions. Sinclair’s credibility has gone up with me and Obama’s credibility has gone down.
Here are the comments that were approved last night. Larry Sinclair’s comment is between my 2 comments.
“Gail Davern   April 15th, 2008 6:21 pm ET

 
When will you have a similar piece on Hillary Clinton?
I’m getting so tired of the inequitous presentation of the 2 Democratic candidates. Because sexism is much more accepted and subtle in our society, not much is made of it in this election, only racism because it is easier to identify and talk about. Most of the male announcers take great pleasure in putting Hillary down but give Obama nothing but accolades. It’s discusting. Even if you don’t want her as president, her achievements, as a woman in this American society, are enormous and should be honored. And one day perhaps she will be respected as much as an African American man because, really, after all is said and done, a woman in the White House would be the only REAL change!
 
 
Teresa, Ohio   April 15th, 2008 6:29 pm ET
 
I will look forward to watching this piece. Ever since Obama came into this race, I have noticed TWO of him. I hate to put it this way but: there is a side he shows to the blacks and “minorities” and a side he shows to the typical white folks. I think he is still confused about who he is. I get the impression EVEN he doesnt believe in himself. I would love a piece in the media to focus on his TONE OF SPEECH while he is talking to the two different groups. One is street slang and the other is for the white folk. While some might feel he is adjusting to the group he is talking to and that he can “fit” into any genre, it simply isn’t true. Actually, it’s downright insulting.
 
I truly hope people know WHO they are voting for in this election.
 
Best of luck to all candidates.
 
 
lb   April 15th, 2008 6:31 pm ET
 
It is just great to know and see America in Obama. This is something that the Anderson Coopers can read and say ” I am Proud to be an American. This is because of all the Obama’s in it, that ’s what makes it so colorful and beautiful so “That boy’s finger does NEED to be on the button”
 
Ms Clinton’s kitchen sink has hit all of us especialy Black america, and a lots going to change when Obama faces that other guy.
Many have served this country. but why sshould we vote for someone simple because he was a soldier. many of voluntered. many of us came back and are in wheel chairs, he’s no special than the rest of us.
 
AND YES AMERICA IS BITTER, Bitter about people like the Clintons who cannot see the pain of lost jobs, lost homes, not house, food and gas prices etc,.
 
may the real BLACK PRESIDENT COME ON DOWN and press the button if he has to.
 
 
citizenwells   April 15th, 2008 6:31 pm ET
 
The real Obama?
Well, a lot of us are searching for the real Obama.
It has been made more difficult due to Obama not complying
with Illinois FOIA and records access laws and by his evasive
reponses.
What we know about Obama is scary enough.
Anyone with doubts should follow the Tony Rezko trial
and check out the Oprah site for her show in April
2004 about down low.
Citizen Wells
 
 
larrysinclair0926   April 15th, 2008 6:42 pm ET
 
There is another REAL Obama but AC 360 is scared to report it. Just ask Larry Sinclair
 
 
lb   April 15th, 2008 6:45 pm ET
 
In search of Obama?? I am sure Mr B. Obama knows who he is, Where he came from and surely where he’s going. He is not mixed up. Those of you looking for him, look inside of yourselves. This Young man is what make us all proud to be American. I can understand his wife’s Comment about the fist time she felt proud to be an american. Not the twisted way in how the comment was used, but to understand how long it took for a black man to come to the point and make it this far in running for the presidency. Oh, many will never know what it means to be black. because you just cannot, and never will, America is getting a shake up and OBAMA has to be president or something is totally wrong with this USA. Your Polls don’t mean a thing and saying that Ms clinton have a higher averege of winning here and there makes no sence not a penny. she has lost this election and she knows it.
 
 
citizenwells   April 15th, 2008 6:47 pm ET
 
I have been researching Obama extensively and have written
quite a few articles about him.
I was initially a huge skeptic of Larry Sinclair. The more
I researched Obama and the more Larry was attacked personally
and the more I was attacked for asking simple questions, the
more believable Larry’s allegations are.
Obama is hiding something.
Look for some big news to break soon.”
 
 
Click here to view the blog as it appears today, April 16, 2008:

Obama down low, Obama gay sex, Obama rumor in Chicago restaurant, Larry Sinclair

A post on the Larry Sinclair blog several days ago mentioned a post on savage politics about a Chicago restaurant owner that had heard rumors for years that Barack Obama is gay.  Someone claiming to be the restaurant owner has just posted a clarification on Sinclair’s blog. Here is the post:

“Some guy said he used to own a gay restaurant in Chicago and that everybody knew Obama was on the down low and, no, he would not post the name of the restaurant publically because…um…well he wouldn’t but he WOULD provide the owner of the site with the name for veracity. Hm. The odd thing. No one ever asked for the name”

I noticed in one of the above compendium posts that Paul, aka HBee, on his website misrepresented my comments on savagepolitics.com, the only site I’ve seen fit to post on regarding this Sinclair-Obama matter. I’d like to set the record straight:

First, my comment at savagepolitics.com:

“Frankly, I decided against voting for Obama a fair while back, long before hearing about Larry Sinclair and his allegations. Obama didn’t make a splash in the state legislature, and his record as a US senator has been underwhelming at best. But… I used to be co-owner and chef of a Chicago-area restaurant frequented by gays (closed in 2003), and during that time I heard from a number of different gay male sources that Obama was quite much on the down-low. This has been an open “secret” in certain sections of gay Chicagoland for quite some time, apparently. I’m sure that, with a bit of stirring, the pot would boil over, and the weight of additional “whistle”blowers’ stories would add much credence to Sinclair’s claims. I’d like to encourage those who have had encounters with Obama to come forward… this man wants to become president, and it’s high time his pattern of deception, personal and political, be exposed.”

Nowhere did I identify myself as a man (I’m not), and nowhere did I say it was a gay restaurant (it wasn’t). It was a rather artsy gourmet-eclectic restaurant that drew a very diverse, if well-heeled, clientele… including a fair number of gay men. When Paul demanded that I give out my personal information and the name of the restaurant, I said that I’d be glad to do that, to the owner of savagepolitics.com, with his guarantee of confidentiality. I don’t mind being vetted at all… but I’m not going to set myself up for the personal attacks that Paul and others (including some of Sinclair’s supporters) have been making. At no point did I express any support for Sinclair… my point in posting at all was to indicate that some posters were incorrect in saying that there have never been any Chicago-area rumors regarding Obama’s sexual proclivities. I first heard such remarks probably in early 2001, and continued to hear such remarks until I closed the restaurant in 2003 — I’d estimate that I heard variations on the theme perhaps fifteen to twenty times, and from disparate, apparently unrelated people. In no way am I supporting Sinclair’s claims… I have no idea as to whether or not his story is true. And I certainly had no intention of posting anywhere except at savagepolitics.com, until I discovered that Paul/HBee had beeen fudging the truth about my comments and about me. I’m now posting here, on Sinclair’s blog, because this is where I learned of Paul’s misstatements concerning my comments and me, not because I’m one of Sinclair’s supporters… it simply seems that readers of Paul’s site are also viewing here, and this is the logical place to get the truth out.

Again, I stand by my original claims, and again, I’m willing to be vetted by the owner of savagepolitics.com, given a guarantee of confidentiality. What I won’t do is offer my personal information to someone who can’t even get the details of a very simple post correct, and who clearly has no qualms about distorting information and committing very personal attacks. Frankly, vetting me at all seems ludicrous and smacks of desperation — I have no smoking gun, I have no knowledge whatsoever of Sinclair and his claims. All I do know is that, in the Chicago area, at least, there have indeed been long-standing rumors concerning Obama’s sexual proclivities. But if Paul/HBee wants me to be vetted, as I stated before, I have no problems with that — it will simply be done only by the owner of savagepolitics.com, and only with his guarantee of complete confidentiality.

ADDED BY LARRY:I personally would perfer you provide that directly to my Attorney Montgomery Sibley. If you would be so kind, as that would be greatly appreciated.
Delenn
Sunday, April 13, 2008

Read more about Larry Sinclair and the controversy surrounding Barack Obama and his alleged drug use and gay lifestyle here:

http://larrysinclair0926.wordpress.com/2008/04/13/obama-pr-attorney-andres-w-lopez-are-you-part-of-internet-smear-campaign/
 

Larry Sinclair, Obama Campaign, lies, attacks, allegations, Female Law Student, complaint, Judge Kennedy

Larry Sinclair has alleged an encounter with Barack Obama
between November 3 and November 8, 1999. Sinclair alleges
that he and Obama used drugs in a limousine and had another
drug encounter.Larry Sinclair has been repeatedly attacked
for making these allegations and has stated that the personal
attacks have come from “blind” Obama supporters and bloggers
associated with the Obama Campaign. One of the attackers,
referred to as Female Law Student and Concerned Citizen,
attacks Larry personally and tries to destroy his credibility
with purported facts. I have received numerous personal
attacks and attempts at discrediting my posts. All I have
done is ask questions. I notified Larry Of the comments
from Female Law Student. Here is his response:

ADDED BY LARRY:Thank you, I find it comical that the Pacer system is available to anyone who pays for its services, furthermore this ALLEGED law student is from the University of Michigan, I believe it to be the individual who posts as “Concerned Citizen” and it is just comical that these people try to say that Judge Kennedy’s ORDER is a fake, and that no motion was ever filed, when it was, and these are to be our future legal representatives? It is all these students who will die for Obama, and for what, so he can take their loan and grant money to send me letters thanking me for writing him yet not address my request for his records? I do not even waste my time thinking about so called law students who can’t give there names, but wasn’t Axelrods drunken woman fondling son supposed to be studying law at the U of Michigan?

Response from Female Law Student:

Yeah, I guess I am a joke. Well at least a will be a rich joke who decided to believe the next president of the United States. Also, my point in stating that Larry Sinclair was not on the schedule was not to state that the order was fake, but to show that once again Larry was the only person stating his claim. The anonymous bloggers now have to deal with Larry’s claims because he got nowhere in a court of law against Senator Obama. So I guess I will leave this blog now and I have renewed hope in the fact that I am a joke. Goodbye Larry, it was nice spending the day chatting with you. I have exams to prepare for so that I can begin to make money the good old way of working for it.

ADDED BY LARRY:Thank you Mr/Ms Axelrod, I have already stated Obama and Axelrod are going to try the same thing you state here, but there is one problem with that sweetheart, he cannot even think of trying to come out now and say he has records showing him to be somewhere else after claiming to every media outlet for almost a year he cannot produce any records not even personal ones because he didn’t keep them. Just because your precious Obama says something does not make it true, and baby has that been proven over and over again by his own lips.

Response by hope’s audacity:

 am finding it amazing the way that the “law students” that have attacked Mr. Sincliar, his ethics, and his credibility, are probably violating the ethics of their law school by using their LexisNexis access on anythi ng that does not pertain to their educational requirements. I don’t see research on Mr. Sinclair is being a part of that. Lexis Nexis is available to many people in many different professions, but I do know, having attended law school, that one agrees not to use the service for personal reasons or for internship work outside of the law school.

Female law student– better check the policies you agreed to when you started at your top law school.

Read more about Larry Sinclair, Barack Obama and bloggers trying
to discredit Larry at:

http://larrysinclair0926.wordpress.com/


Now read the following dialogue between me and Female Law Student
from my blog. The responses I have been getting from Obama
supporters and Obama campaign workers are one of the reasons
I believe that Obama is hiding something. At the bottom is a
copy of the court document signed recently by Judge Kennedy.
Larry sent me the copy yesterday.

My experience with the Female Law Student:

Female Law Student // April 9, 2008 at 6:39 pm (edit)

Citizen Wells, as a law student I can tell you the reason why the MSM is not picking the story up (and trust me every news network has its own legal team) is because they probably have researched the story and have found nothing credible. As far as where Senator Obama was on November 4, 1999 … The fact that he was not present at work means he was probably NOT EVEN IN CHICAGO OR THE STATE!!!!!!OR MAYBE HOME SICK AND TAKING CARE OF HIS CHILD WHO WAS ONE YEAR OLD AT THE TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now that I am calm again, when people miss work it is usually because they are either on vacation or home sick, NOT OUT HAVING GAY SEX WITH MENTAL PEOPLE!@!@!@

  • Female Law Student // April 9, 2008 at 6:47 pm (edit)

    And another thing, it is so disingenuous for you to act as if all the pieces of the puzzle and falling together to show that Larry Sinclair maybe telling the truth. That is bull and you know it. Anyone who has worked a day in their life knows the reasons people miss work and for you to suggest that Senator Obama missing work on the day that Sinclair “claims” that they had one of their “encounters” is so irresponsible and unbalanced that you really should stop. As a highly educated individual I am insulted by your posts and as a member of the legal community I am insulted by Sinclairs accusations and those who support his nonsense that has no legal foundation. I wish someone would accuse you of something and then see how it feels. Get a life and some education will ya!

  • citizenwells // April 9, 2008 at 7:57 pm (edit)

    Emotional, alleged law student.
    Have you prepared a motion?
    Have you filed a motion?
    Have you opposed a licensed attorney in court?
    Have you won against a licensed attorney in court?
    I have.
    Do you know the meaning of the words alleged and allegations?

  • citizenwells // April 9, 2008 at 8:00 pm (edit)

    Maybe Obama was at home on November 4 1999.
    That should be easy to prove.
    Show us the records.

  • Female Law Student // April 9, 2008 at 8:21 pm (edit)

    First of all I am not an alleged law student. I am a law student at one of the top universities in the country. As far as the motions are concerned go to the US district court for the district of columbia and look at the calendar and see if you see any motion hearings for Larry Sinclair’s “motion on the calendar or assigned to Kennedy. After you do your research then give me a call. Another thing, as a law student I have access to Lexis Nexis. Lexis is a search engine of all, ALLLLLLLL, cases filed in the ENTIRE COUNTRY. I did a search under “larry sinclair” and “lawrence sinclair” and NOTHING, NOTHING, NOTHING came up. You see my dear, there are people who have access to information that you as common people do not. AND MAYBE THIS IS WHY THE NEWS OUTLETS ARE NOT CARRYING THIS STORY. They probably have access to Lexis also.

  • citizenwells // April 9, 2008 at 8:44 pm (edit)

    “Common people”
    Well, you certainly have the arrogance to be a
    scumbag attorney.
    Regarding the MSM.
    I assume you recall the many questions from the likes of Tim Russert, The Chicago Tribune, etc
    regarding Obama’s records when he was serving
    in the Illinois Senate. He was also asked about
    his schedule outside of the senate. He gave, perhaps, the most evasive, suspect answers I have ever heard. He sounded like a criminal.
    The more people like you react to my questions in an emotional manner with personal attacks, the more convinced I am that Obama is hiding something.

  • Female Law Student // April 9, 2008 at 9:46 pm (edit)

    I apologize if I came across as arrogant, that was not my attempt. Poor choice of words, “common people”. What I am trying to get across is that you and everyone who chooses to believe Larry Sinclair’s “story” to be true are doing something that you cannot fully appreciate. Imagine for a minute that someone who doesn’t like you or just wants to get publicity decides to tell a story about something you did in your past that you cannot defend because it is your words against the person. Imagine that the persons story cuts against the core of who you are and what you have worked so hard to achieve. Imagine that even if you could go to a court of law and win that the win doesn’t matter because the bad publicity has caused people to second guess you and then you lose your job or some other status in public because of this allegation. Imagine that the person makes these claims and you were home sick at the time. Imagine that you have no proof to show that you were home sick. No matter what your political affiliations are, we should demand that Larry Sinclair offer up his so called “proof” before we convict Senator Obama on the web. This goes against everything this country’s wonderful judicial system is built on . One is innocent before proven to be guilty. I hope that something like this doesn’t happen to you.

  • Female Law Student // April 9, 2008 at 10:47 pm (edit)

    Anyone can file a case. If I wanted to I can file a case against you tomorrow filled with allegations. I don’t have to offer up not one single shred of evidence to support my allegations. That is where is motion for summary judgment would come it. If Senator Obama had airline tickets proving that he and his family were in Hawaii, at a motion for summary judgment that would end the case and that’s it. However, Senator Obama is in a very sticky place. If he responds to Larry Sinclair, then the MSM will be all over the story and in this country once it is on the news it will stick. And between the time he files his motion for summary judgment and the time the court actually hears the arguments and rules, the primary would be over and he would have lost because everyone would have convicted him in the media. Forget about how his wife and family would feel about this person making this allegations against Senator Obama. This is why Larry Sinclair is on the web, using the web to convict Senator Obama. Please don’t fall for it.

  • citizenwells // April 9, 2008 at 10:49 pm (edit)

    Thanks for getting back.
    I have been consistent in my wording.
    I have always referred to Larry Sinclair’s claims
    as allegations.
    I have a strong business background and have worked with and been around attornies and accountants all of my adult life.
    My first job was with a top accounting firm.
    I understand records and record keeping.
    A recent example that comes to mind is the opinion of 2 major law firms and their recommendation regarding the length of time
    for real estate professionals in NC to keep records. Most of the minimum legal requirements are 3 years. These 2 prominent law firms are recommending 10 and 12 years.
    I was in business for myself almost half of my former life career spanning over 30 years. I kept appointment books and mileage records and I still have some from 1993 and probably older.
    There are too may red flags about Obama’s past and responses. Obama has not been forthright in responding to requests for his records.
    As I have repeatedly stated, I hope that the allegations made about him are false.

  • Female Law Student // April 9, 2008 at 10:59 pm (edit)

    Okay, so I worked for six years before coming to law school. Every year once I was there for three years, I dumped everything that was older than two years. Now you are talking about a young male Illinois Senator who didn’t have a secretary. That is a fact. If I had to guess, I would imagine that his schedule keeping was sloppy and he probably didn’t think it was important to keep after all he wasn’t the president or something. So can you just try to imagine that the Senator is probably telling the truth that he may have just dumped daily schedules once he became a US Senator. When I left my job for to come to law school that is exactly what I did. I dumped all my schedules and paperwork that was not necessary for someone who would be taking over my job. Why can you not understand that. Why does it have to be something sinister and shady. My god, is that where we are in this country! We always have to assume the worse. I dump my schedules all the time and this is a dude. He ain’t caring about schedules that is what a secretary is for and he did not have one. Cut the man some slack.

  • citizenwells // April 9, 2008 at 10:59 pm (edit)

    I understand and appreciate the fact that Obama
    is in an awkward position. He put himself in that position. If he had been more cooperative and more proactive in providing records about his activities during the span of time when he was in the Illinois Senate, the allegations would never have grown in importance and mystique.
    What I mean is a resonable accounting for his life, in the senate and away from the senate. He was not in the senate on November 4 1999. There should be a record of his activities. That is only one day out of many. Forget the Sinclair allegations for a moment. What was Obama doing the rest of the time?
    Obama has just as many credibility issues as Sinclair. He has also chosen to associate with many questionable personalities including criminals.

  • Female Law Student // April 9, 2008 at 11:05 pm (edit)

    Okay so I am what one call a pretty decent person. I found a ring on the ground once and turned it in to the lost and found for my neighborhood. So my sister got married and my brother in law and I are good friends and I helped him start his own plumbing business. Turns out that my brother in law got arrested for cocaine use. True story. I am not lying. Do you think that I am questionable because I did business with my brother in law, a criminal. Is the business that I helped him create a criminal enterprise because of his drug use. Or is it that Senator Obama did legal transactions with someone who turned out to have a criminal side to him. Let’s not think the worst of the Senator.

  • citizenwells // April 9, 2008 at 11:06 pm (edit)

    Point:
    A. When I was his age I kept records.
    B. He was an experienced attorney.
    C. I am not running for president.
    D. He had some political aspirations.
    E. There should be a record or recollection of missing the important first day after the summer break.
    F. My opinion: if he didn’t keep records he was
    incompetent or if he disposed of them he was incompetent.

  • citizenwells // April 9, 2008 at 11:06 pm (edit)

    I am out of town and using dial up.
    Back later.

  • citizenwells // April 9, 2008 at 11:22 pm (edit)

    As you know, the degree of scrutiny applied and documentation necessary, depends on the job being applied for. Obama is applying for the job of President of the US.
    Point of law: Accessory before, during and after the fact.
    Guilt by association: at the very least social stigma. Criminal background checks go into many details. If there is a hint of mispropriety, an applicant can be dismissed from further consideration.
    Regarding your situation: you are not running for president.

  • Female Law Student // April 9, 2008 at 11:47 pm (edit)

    Citizen Wells, good luck. Honestly, we are coming from to different points of view. I choose to by default believe in the good of Senator Obama. I choose to believe that Larry Sinclair, whose case against Senator Obama was unequivocally dismissed in the Minnesota district court (go and look it up in Pacer), is seeking publicity. I choose to believe that a judge seeing all the evidence that Larry and his lawyer brought forward believed that no reasonable person on a jury could find in his favor. That is the judicial standard for a case to be dismissed so early. I choose to believe that Senator Obama will be a great President. Now its your time to choose. I truly hope you will choose not to believe the worst about Senator Obama.

  • citizenwells // April 10, 2008 at 12:17 am (edit)

    I seek the truth.
    All of the candidates must be held to a high standard.
    I have many concerns about Obama. These concerns have come about from reading factual data from a broad variety of sources. Some allegations gain credence in the context of known facts and unanswered questions.
    One of my darker skinned friends phrased it well a few weeks ago. “We really don’t know Obama.”
    Best wishes.