Citizen Wells letter to Electors, Electoral College, Uphold US Constitution, December 15, 2008 Electors vote, Obama is not eligible, Demand proof, 2008 Election, Election laws, Political Party pledges, State laws unconstitutional

“These are the times that try men’s souls. The summer soldier and
the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service
of their country; but he that stands now, deserves the love and
thanks of man and woman. Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered;
yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict,
the more glorious the triumph.” —Thomas Paine 1778

To: 2008 Presidential Election Electoral College Electors

From: Citizen Wells

You are being put into the uncomfortable position of having to
question your vote for president of the US. In the past, this
was a much simpler decision. Party politics has always been an
issue but in the past, after the general election, the rules
were fairly simple for you. You voted based on the party pledges
and state rules without giving it much thought. The duty to vote
in the manner as directed by the US Constitution has always been
there, but you never had to be concerned about violating it.

The 2008 Election year is unique in American History. Early in
2008 questions arose about the eligibility of John McCain and
Barack Obama to be president. John McCain put to rest any doubts
by presenting to Congress a vault copy of his birth certificate.
As the year progressed and more was learned about Obama’s history
and evasive attitude, more people began questioning Obama’s
eligibility. Several attempts were made on various websites to put
the issue to rest by presenting copies of what were alleged to be
COLB, Certificate of Live Birth. A COLB is a record of birth and
is not a legal verification of location of birth and other birth

On August 21, 2008, Philip J Berg filed a lawsuit in Philadelphia
Federal Court demanding that Barack Obama provide proof of eligibility.
Mr. Berg provided many details surrounding Obama’s past such as
Obama’s probable birth in Kenya, travel forbidden to American
citizens in Pakistan and Obama’s school records and other records’
that Obama has kept hidden from scrutiny. Many lies and deception
have been initiated by the Obama camp. One of the more interesting
ones is an AP report that tried to insinuate that Hawaiian Health
Department officials stated that Obama was born in Hawaii. They
did not state that.

Many other lawsuits have developed from the Berg lawsuit including
the Alan Keyes lawsuit in CA. Obama has spents hundreds of thousands
of dollars and employed multiple law firms to avoid proving his
eligibility. Lawsuits are still alive in the US Supreme Court and
many state courts. Lawsuits place the burden of proof on the
plaintiff and require very strict legal wording.

Why are you being put in the position of questioning your vote and
complying with the US Constitution? The Constitution gives the power
and control over elections to the states through the vote of the
Electoral College. State laws vary greatly but to various degrees
define how candidates get on the ballot and other rules controlling
the election process. Some states define the method of challenging
or ensuring that a candidate is qualified. Regardless, the states
do have the power and the duty to ensure that a presidential
candidate is qualified to take office.

Why are the states not requiring that a presidential candidate is
qualified? The short answer is that they are passing the buck. The
long answer is that tradition, politics and political parties are
driving the process when in fact political parties are given no
power or authority by the US Constitution. The typical answer
given by a secretary of state or other state election official is
that they get their cue from the political party as to who gets
put on the ballot and some even state that it is the responsibility
of the party to vet the candidate. While I see no problem getting
names for ballots from the political party, that does not remove
the Constitutional duty of the states. This is a blatant violation
of duty by state officers, election officials and judges and could
fall under “High Crimes and Misdemeanors.”

To make matters worse, the US Supreme Court, on multiple occasions, in
regard to several lawsuits challenging Obama’s eligibility to be
president, has not addressed three distinct constitutional issues
that need to either be ruled on or clarified:

  • Obama’s eligibility to be president and the relevance of natural
    born citizen.
  • Clarification of state powers and duties to ensure that Electoral
    College Electors have a qualified candidate on the ballot to vote for.
  • Applicability of oaths taken to uphold and defend the Constitution
    to the election process. Marbury V Madison is clear on oaths. Why are
    the states ignoring this?

No one wants to take responsibility. Why? Many of the reasons are
obvious. Party politics, fear of offending someone, fear of riots,
ignorance, tradition.

Electors. You are in a unique position. We have a system of checks and
balances in this country that has served us well over the centuries.
Our Founding Fathers had witnessed the monarchies and totalitarian
regimes prevalent in much of their world. They did not want that. That
is why we have executive, legislative and judicial branches and that
is also why we have an Electoral College system of voting for president.
The Electoral College was set up by the founding fathers to achieve two
primary goals.To prevent smaller states and lower population areas from
being dominated by a few larger states with higher population densities
and to prevent a tyrant or usurper of power from deceiving an uninformed

Consider the following quotes:
Alexander Hamilton echoed the thoughts of many of the founding
fathers when he wrote in the Federalist Papers: “afraid a tyrant could
manipulate public opinion and come to power.”
“The people are uninformed, and would be misled by a few designing men.”
Delegate Gerry, July 19, 1787.

Electors, you have a duty to uphold the US Constitution. As Harry Truman
said, “The buck stop here.” You can blindly follow party propaganda or
you can act as concerned Americans and do the right thing. What do other
concerned Americans expect from you? That you make certain that the
candidate that you vote for is qualified under the US Constitution,
nothing more, nothing less.

This is so simple a school child can understand it. Why would Barack
Obama spend so much money, time and resources to avoid proving his
eligibilty. The answer is obvious. Obama is not qualified. However,
all you have to do is demand that he provide legitimate, legal, proof
and you can rest easy knowing you have done your job, your duty to
this country and the US Constitution.

One person, one vote can make a difference:

1860 election: 4 electors in New Jersey, pledged for Stephen Douglas,
voted for Republican candidate Abraham Lincoln.

Those Electors helped save the Union and the world.

Electoral College Questions and Answers


40 responses to “Citizen Wells letter to Electors, Electoral College, Uphold US Constitution, December 15, 2008 Electors vote, Obama is not eligible, Demand proof, 2008 Election, Election laws, Political Party pledges, State laws unconstitutional

  1. Virginia expects a “packed house,” when Electors vote tomorrow. So much for the media trying to hide this issue behind the apron of “voter apathy.”

    Maybe the real reason the media is not covering this story is that they cannot afford to pay their electic bills (so they can’t go on-line), so they are reduced to writing their stories on yellow sticky notes, and leaving them on the walls of their carrels for the linotype-setters.

    The first they’ll hear that there is a story is when their catches sight of the tabloids, while their paying for their Snicker Bar suppers.

    Their whole industry is in foreclosure.

  2. “Their whole industry is in foreclosure.”
    Music to my ears.

  3. Unfortunately, the Electors are gutless wonders, party hacks all who will gladly sell out America and the Constitution to avoid p-ss-ng off their buddies in the Party as they continue to enhance their own career or social goals. Thats how it is-unfortunate but true. I sincerely doubt that there will be even one of them who will not follow the party line. This is modern, gutless America where the general populace is more concerned with entertaining themselves and “keeping up with the Kardashians” then who the President really is, and the Party bigwigs know this and act accordingly-with complete disregard and contempt. If you’ve ever attended any Party meetings (either of the main ones) or have received and read any of the responses from Senators (like Martinez)and Congressmen in regard to this matter you get a sense for the mindset that is really at work.
    Theres a reason why we have the Second Amendment.

  4. stock.
    Well said.
    However, as gloomy as that scenario is, if we can reach one person with morals
    and patriotism, who knows.
    The hand of God was present when Lincoln was elected, I have to believe
    it is now.

  5. The Chances of the Electors coming through are slim. They’ll vote for their party.

    It’s possible SCOTUS may do something. At least the various court cases has brought the issue to their attention. However if they decide to stay out our last resort is to go to those few friendly members of congress and convince them to take a chance and object to the Vote when Cheney asks for objections. It only takes two. Better odds than SCOTUS.

    So who are the friendly members of congress that we can direct our appeals to? I’ve heard of one but his name escaped me. We need only one from the house and one from the senate.

    I’m formulating my letters now.

  6. How can heat be applied to the electors? Can they be sued after the fact?

  7. Thanks and God bless.

  8. I do not see why not.
    A Supreme Court ruling could impact that.

  9. I think I have worn out my welcome on the “SCOTUS doesn’t have the constitutional authority to stay the electoral vote” issue so I’ll give that dead horse the day off.

    In this one man’s opinion our best shot has bean and is legal action chanllenging the election of an individual who is constitutionally unqualified.

    I’m going to Harrisburg tomorrow and will attempt to hand out literature to electors and the media. I put together a “one pager” with four pages of back up and will gladly share it with anyone. It is a compulation of all the excellent research everyone has done. Thanks to all and especially CW.

    To Bob from Virginia, thanks for the heads up, Harrisburg will probably be jammed also. Will get there early.

    I’m sure it will be a shut out, Obama 21, McCain 0 but I feel this fight has just begun. Don’t know if I will get any face time with the electors or media, but I will give 100% of myself trying.


  10. What is the penalty for knowingly voting for an ineligible candidate. Treason? What is the penalty for voting for an ineligible candidate after you have been warned of this possible ineligibility? How are the electors going to defend their votes after the truth finally comes out? To quote Pastor Manning, that skeleton is going to monkey jump out of that closet. This country cannot elect anyone that is not qualified . “No person except a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN”. Not some foreign exchange student from Indonesia with a Kenyan father that claims to have been born in Hawaii who has never been naturalized and was born under the British crown. what kind of Natural Born citizen is that?

  11. I applaud you Eric. Hopefully others will follow.
    PA Electors are not bound by state law to vote per the popular vote.
    Sadly they will probably be led by party politics.

  12. Thanks for the support CW, I’m doing this for all of us. If I get any face time with the electors I will use state law issue.

    Sadly, I think the Detriot Lions have more chance of winning the super bowl than McCain has of getting any votes.


  13. citizenwells

    Thank you, from the bottom of my heart.

    It appears there is no where to start. It appears there is not one single “department” in which to take this complaint. It appears that there is no one person, or one legal source, that possesses the knowledge of that technicality, that could bring this whole thing to the “ah HA” moment.

    However, it also appears, that you will not give up. Never, ever, give up.

    Thank you.

  14. Please donate $5 or more to United States Justice Foundation (USJF) who have taken up this cause:


    I just gave $ to the cause and I urge you to do the same, even if you only have $5 right now [coincidentally $5 is the cost of a pack of Obama’s smokey-dokes, aka cigarettes]




    [Dear Patriots]

    Thank you for your continued support of WND occasionally sends email to introduce carefully selected advertisers to our loyal readers and valued customers. Below you will find a special message from our dedicated friends at the United States Justice Foundation.

    Thank you again, from the team at!

    “Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law breaker, it breeds contempt for the law, it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy.”

    -Justice Louis D. Brandeis, Olmstead v. U.S.

    How could it be happening? It’s undeniable. In the past several days, malicious attacks have increased significantly against our efforts to demand that the Electoral College confirm once and for all President-elect Barack Obama’s eligibility under the U.S. Constitution.

    Some prominent conservatives have already chosen what they mistakenly believe will be political gain over the Constitution. It wouldn’t be the first time. In fact, such behavior seems to be the rule—not the exception—these days.

    In what constitutes one of the most sublimely ridiculous pills the American people are expected to swallow, we’re being told that Obama has produced his birth certificate when, in fact, he has—and still is—actively resisted producing his birth certificate.

    That means we can’t depend upon these “leaders” to protect our rights. Our only and best hope is for grassroots folks like you to take the bull by the horns and demand that the Constitution be followed.

    We’re ready to fight the lies and distortions, but we can’t do it alone.

    We need your help.

  15. bob strauss
    “What is the penalty for knowingly voting for an ineligible candidate. Treason?”

    EXCELLENT point.

  16. That Thomas Paine quote is fabulous. Not just the first sentence we all know, but the rest of it. Thanks, it makes me feel better for having such convictions.

  17. Jerome, that’s easy. Simply write to as many Republican Senators and Republican Representatives as you can. That’s what I’m doing. All their contact information is easily googled.

  18. Eric, I’m sure thousands of people would be thanking you right now for your concern for our country if they knew what you’re doing Monday. Let me personally thank you myself! Good luck.

  19. Wow, what a fantastic video! Sharp, concise, to the point, factual …… all of the electors’ contact info for each state is google-able (such a word?) … I have found them myself and sent many emails. That was before I saw this video. This video needs to be sent to as many electors as possible right now! (The ones who are allowed to be “faithless voters”). I recently saw a list of them somewhere online.

  20. Janet,
    Thanks for your support, I really appreciated it.
    My daughter and her husband just came over and she “approved” my handout. Also got a lecture about what I should wear. I guess I’m good to go

  21. Have faith in Justice Scalia. This issue will be resolved at the proper moment. If the electors elect an obviously ineligible candidate then it may be time to issue the stay. Too early and you interfere with the process. Timing is everything. Let’s see how it plays out after the electoral college votes. After they vote ,the constitution dictates the next safeguard. It’s not over until he is sworn in. And if that happens, it still wont be over. And if we end up with a usurper, it still will not be over.

  22. Recently an article arrived where the author finds a way (he thinks so) to show that Obama is a “natural born citizen” and consequently eligible to be POTUS (President of the US).
    December 12, 2008
    Natural Born Pickle
    By Randall Hoven

    I’m absolutely not agree with the author’s inferences and placed my comment under his article

    Posted by: btw
    Dec 14, 08:59 AM

    where I showed that there is

    No need to get Obama’s BC to prove his ineligibility to be POTUS

    I copied that comment below (I’m not sure the links inside will work properly; if that will be a case, please go to the article (above) and read my comment there).


    With all due respect the author is not right.

    1. If Obama was born abroad.
    In this case he performed a crime (because he has stated that he was born in the US) and he must be a subject for Department of Justice with all consequences following from this fact. Of course he can’t be President of the US in such a case.

    2. If Obama was born in Hawaii as he alleges.
    The author writes: “If Obama was born in the US, he was a citizen at birth, regardless of either parent’s citizenship status, per paragraph (a).”
    referring to
    “US Code 1401 states that “The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth”:
    “(a) a person born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof.”… ”
    That author’s inference is absolutely wrong.

    Let’s consider the following SOLE consequence from Constitution of the US:
    “United States Constitution
    Amendment XIV
    Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and
    subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States…”

    Yes, Congress subsequently passed a special act…
    “The Citizens Act of 1924, codified in
    8USCSß1401, provides that:
    The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States
    at birth:
    (a) a person born in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof;”

    According “The Oath of Allegiance for Naturalized Citizens” such citizens must renounce and abjure any foreign jurisdiction and be subject of only US jurisdiction. The same (be subject of only US jurisdiction) goes automatically to babies born in the US from 2 (two) US citizens; so they are US citizens at birth (natural born citizens). Persons born in the US from a foreigner and a US citizen are subject of 2 (two) jurisdictions and by definition (above) can’t be US citizens immediately after birth (they are only residents of the US). Of course, later they can become US citizens through the process of naturalization (by renouncing and abjuring any foreign jurisdiction). BUT AFTER THAT THEY OBVIOUSLY CAN’T HAVE A STATUS “NATURAL BORN CITIZEN”.

    The last situation entirely pertains to Mr. Obama (if he was born in Hawaii, as he alleges. Although if he didn’t come through naturalization, he isn’t a citizen of the US). Because of that according Constitution (Article II. Section 1) he can’t serve as President of the US (“No person except a natural born Citizen… shall be eligible to the Office of President”).


    There are responsibilities to Constitution for those public figures who certified the candidacy of a not eligible person. Also Obama taught the Constitutional Law; so he had to know that he violates Constitution when he put his signatures under the statements to all States that he is “a natural born citizen”.

    Loyalty to Constitution is above any other loyalties. Electors have to uphold Constitution (see

    “The following provisions of law governing Presidential Elections are
    contained in Chapter 1 of Title 3, United States Code (62 Stat. 672,
    as amended):”

    Ҥ 8. The electors shall vote for President and Vice President,
    respectively, in the manner directed by the Constitution.””).

    If they really are intended to keep their Oath to uphold Constitution, they don’t have any right according Constitution to cast their votes for Obama.

    At the current time I believe all Electors know for sure about a “natural born” problem. Those of them who will cast their votes for Obama in violation of Constitution have to be disqualified and all their votes (including votes for Vice President) have to be nullified. Congress will have to resolve the situation that is created as a result of unconstitutional voting by those Electors.

    Such inferences we get after the straightforward reading of the Constitution, and if we continue to live in the world where TWO plus TWO is perfectly equal to FOUR.

  23. My prayers and thanks to all you good people who make me proud to be an American.

    Ms. Helga


    AMERICAN INDEPENDENT PARTY (AIP) HOLDING Electoral College Capitol Press Conference – Monday, Dec. 15, 2008 –


    spread the word!!

  25. The video is great!! Has it been sent to all of the Electoral Colleges before they vote tomorrow???

  26. Hope I’m not intruding , I read these comments daily.
    As Gertie said on E.T., “something’s happenning”!!!

    Thank you for contacting me with your concerns regarding allegations that U.S. Senator Barack Obama is not a U.S. citizen. I appreciate hearing from you.

    This story has been percolating in the media for a number of months. Unfortunately, unless Senator Obama produces the documentation on his own, at this time, there is no way to verify if he is in fact a natural born citizen of the United States. [emphasis mine]

    On January 8, 2009, both the U.S. Senate and House shall meet for the purpose of counting and certifying the electoral votes. After the vote has been counted, the President of the Senate shall call for objections. It is at this time that Federal officials in both the House and Senate may object to the certification of President-elect Obama by alleging that he fails to meet the Constitutional requirements to serve as President of the United States. Please be assured that I will continue to monitor this issue very carefully, and I will act when appropriate and necessary.

    Again, thank you for contacting me. If I can be of further assistance in the future, please do not hesitate to call on me.


    John Linder
    Member of Congress

    “and I will act when appropriate and necessary.”
    Just one representative or one senator–just one!!!

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  30. The outcome is still in God’s hands. He is not worried, and He has not lost control. Continue fighting this battle through intercession as well as doing what you can. It will not be lost even though it may at times seem like it.

    Christian Conservative
    Seattle, WA

  31. Thanks.
    God bless Richard.

  32. PS, Richard.
    Will be in your neck of woods in a few weeks.

  33. Nice to know you’ll be in bellvue you piece of shit. I’ve always wanted to kick a traitors ass. I’ll be waiting for you.

    Ps. I live in Everett

  34. Don’t count on any more comments JS.
    However, just so you will know, I would be careful whose ass I threatened
    to kick. You don’t know my background.
    So far, I have not observed anyone in the state of WA I would be fearful of.

  35. Only stayed for half of the PA electoral vote, it was just a party celebration. Was not allowed to distirbute any literature and the electors were kept seperate from the spectators. There were more electors, senators and representatives present than spectators.

    I got there early and went to the correspondants room and talked with an AP writer and another writer from a NE PA daily. Both took the time to go over the four page hand out with me and appeared somewhat suprised hearing about the natural born citizen issue. Don’t expect anything to happen with them.

    Time to move on to the next phase of the battle.


  36. Thanks Eric

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  38. I have been reading this blog for awhile,and not to stir up the pot or anything, bit I have to ask

    1) Would a vault copy actually change anyone’s mind on this blog seeking to keep Obama from being president?
    2) If proven that he is a citizen, wouldn’t most of you continue to try to unseat him as president? (it’s like the Obama christian/muslim issue, where no mater what anyone says, some people will not accept it)
    3) If you could stop the electors, and stop the swearing in of the president, what is the alternative; Biden…The Speaker of the House, the Senate Pro Tem?

    Just honest questions trying to find out what is the end game for this effort to unseat Obama.

  39. Academic Equality.
    Your assumption for most people coming to this blog is dead wrong.
    While I never believed Obama was good for this country (Blagojevich, Rezko, Levine crony),
    my immediate concern is upholding the US Constitution and rule of law.
    Let the chips fall where they may.

  40. The only reason I can come up with for electors to not fulfill their legal duties, and participate in the crime of electing a noneligible candidate according to the Constitution, is that the electors have been placed into position, part of a premeditated plan, with kickbacks to those promising to vote the party line with no questions. The electors from California are illegal, and were not certified according to written procedure for California electors. One was dead. There is a high probability that Democratic electors in other states are also illegally placed. There is something they might sign to be an elector, making a certain oath to uphold the Constitution, and that was bypassed for these illegally placed electors, who may say “I never signed an oath and did not know.” An investigation into each elector and their legal qualifications and certification to be an elector should be done, as it seems a lady in Colorado is an avowed “Marxist” and so would explain no interest in upholding the Constitution above the Democratic party line. If the Democratic party has placed an ineligible candidate on the ballot for presidency, and then has ineligible electors not certified by the rules and laws of the state, and not following the rules and laws of electors, then it would seem a criminal case, against the leadership of the national and state Democrat party members. They are defrauding the American public with an illegal election all along the different stages of the system.

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