Why is Ellen Weintraub a former Perkins Coie employee still a FEC commissioner?, Obvious why Obama kept her on, Trump admin: wake up!
“What if the country held an election and there was no one to make sure that candidates played by the rules — no agency that could issue regulations, write
advisory opinions or bring enforcement actions against those breaking the law?”
“The six-person FEC — three members from each party — enforces the rules it writes about how Americans are permitted to participate in politics. You
thought the First Amendment said enough about that participation? Silly you.”
“Four Senate Democrats decided to block the Republican, Hans von Spakovsky.”
“The Post wants von Spakovsky confirmed only to keep the FEC functioning. He is being blocked because four senators have put “holds” on his nomination. One of those four who might be responsible for preventing the FEC from being able to disburse taxpayer funds to Democratic presidential candidates Joe Biden, Chris Dodd and John Edwards is . . . Barack Obama.”…George Will, Washington Post December 11, 2007
“Why did Obama employ Robert Bauer of Perkins Coie, to request an advisory opinion on FEC matching funds that he was not eligible for?”…Citizen Wells
“Why is Ellen Weintraub, a liberal Democrat and former employee of Perkins Coie, still a member of the FEC since 2002, long after her term expired?”…Citizen Wells
From TPM February 21, 2017.
“An FEC commissioner repeated her demand Tuesday that the White House provide proof for its claims that thousands of people were bused from Massachusetts into New Hampshire to vote illegally in the 2016 election. She also defied a letter from a Koch brothers-funded group that asked that she be investigated for her actions.
The commissioner made a similar demand for proof last week.
The statement cites a group funded by the Koch brothers, Cause of Action, which sent a letter Tuesday to the inspector general of the FEC, requesting an investigation into what it claimed was Weintraub overstepping her authority as a commissioner.
The commissioner, Cause for Action claimed, “violated applicable ethics regulations when she used government property and official time to call on President Trump to provide evidence of his claims of voter fraud in New Hampshire and then continued to promote her statement after it was issued.””
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/fec-commissioner-i-will-not-be-silenced
From Zero Hedge February 16, 2018.
“Democrats on the Federal Election Commission (FEC) have taken their fight against media outlets such as Fox and the Drudge Report “underground,” says Lee Goodman, who is leaving the agency Friday after nearly five years on the panel.
“The debate has gone underground, it has not ceased,” said Goodman, who pointed to a campaign by FEC Democrats to remove long-standing media exemptions on fines and criminal charges for not policing whether or not political ads contained the proper disclaimers identifying their source. ”
“After the FEC lawyers gave the Ohio paper a pass, Weintraub proposed changing the practice – instead clearing the paper through a “discretionary dismissal” according to Goodman.
“Too often colleagues here and throughout the government wish to regulate core First Amendment rights through the exercise of ‘discretion,’ or ‘prosecutorial discretion.’ They rely on vague ‘facts and circumstances tests to decide when to punish and when to let a violation slide. Regulation by human discretion means an inherent risk of bias and unequal treatment.” Goodman told The Examiner. ”
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-02-16/fec-democrats-waging-underground-war-drudge-conservative-media
From Citizen Wells October 21, 2016.
It is well known that Obama controls the Justice Dept. which controls the FBI.
It is not so well known that Obama controls the FEC and has been active in rigging it.
And folks, things are worse than that.
Robert Creamer, at the center of the Trump rally violence and voter fraud, as well as complaints filed with the FEC, has been working with Obama since 2007 and visited the White House 342 times since 2009.
He has also been working for Hillary Clinton.
Do you really want 4 more years of this?
Do you believe that the FEC is going to prosecute these charges with or without the Justice Dept.?
From WND October 20, 2016.
“O’Keefe complaint to FEC cites Dems’ ‘criminal conspiracy’”
“Citing a Democratic operative’s confirmation of a chain of command that runs directly from Hillary Clinton’s campaign to agents who “execute … on the ground,” the activists at Project Veritas are asking the Federal Election Commission to investigate a “criminal conspiracy.’
The filing of the complaint with the federal agency follows the release earlier this week of two videos in which Democrats explain how they can attempt to change the outcome of the election through apparently fraudulent means, such as having people travel across state lines to vote illegally.
The complaint follows the filing of a another complaint with the FEC, by the Public Interest Legal Foundation, a nonprofit organization “dedicated to protect the right to vote, preserve the constitutional framework of American elections, and educate the public on the issue of election integrity.”
Both cite the evidence in the videos released by James O’Keefe’s Project Veritas.
The videos have resulted already in two Democratic operatives who appeared on them losing their jobs.
One is Scott Foval, who had worked for People for the American Way, a George Soros-funded group, and more recently with Americans United for Change.
In the video, he said: “You know what? We’ve been busing people in to deal with you f—ing a—–es for 50 years, and we’re not going to stop now.”
Also, he said he and his agents are “starting anarchy” by creating “conflict engagement … in the lines at Trump rallies.”
Also now out of work is Bob Creamer, founder and partner of Democracy Partners, and husband of Rep. Jan Schakowsky, D-Ill.”
http://www.wnd.com/2016/10/okeefe-complaint-to-fec-cites-dems-criminal-conspiracy/
From Citizen Wells February 1, 2015.
Obama FEC scandal.
Why is this so important?
Forget for a moment the other bias and chicanery associated with the FEC ( hard drive from IRS, etc. )
To the best of my knowledge, the FEC is the only federal government agency since 2008 to address the natural born citizen requirement for presidency in the US Constitution.
In Hassan v FEC they established that just being a US citizen is not enough. Hassan is a naturalized citizen and not eligible for matching federal funds.
They did not prohibit his running since they are only responsible for the monetary aspect.
What is significant about Ellen Weintraub being a commissioner?
1. She is a former Perkins Coie employee. You know, the law firm that made hundreds of thousands of dollars off of the Obama campaign, helped Obama keep records hidden via attorney Robert Bauer ( husband of Anita Dunn ) and requested an advisory opinion from the FEC in 2007 regarding Obama’s matching fund options.
2. Weintraub was a FEC commissioner in 2007 when the FEC provided the advisory opinion.
3. Weintraub was a commissioner in 2008 when the FEC rejected Philip J Berg’s plea for a ruling on Obama’s natural born citizen status.
4. Weintraub has been a commissioner since December 2002 despite her tenure of 6 years being exceeded.
5. Weintraub is a liberal Democrat.
6. Weintraub’s participation as a commissioner with the Perkins Coie ties to Obama is troubling.
7. Numerous articles have been written about Obama not replacing commissioners on the FEC, despite their terms running out, but I have found none other than my own questioning Ellen Weintraub being retained.
8. Why did Wikipedia make it appear like Weintraub began as a commissioner in 2008?
“Commissioners
CURRENT
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Election_Commission
From the FEC.
“Ellen L. Weintraub took office as a Member of the United States Federal Election Commission (FEC) on December 9, 2002. After an initial recess appointment, her nomination was confirmed by unanimous consent of the United States Senate on March 18, 2003. Commissioner Weintraub has twice served as Chair of the Commission, for calendar years 2003 and 2013.
Prior to her appointment, Ms. Weintraub was Of Counsel to Perkins Coie LLP and a member of its Political Law Group. There, she counseled clients on federal and state campaign finance and election laws, political ethics, nonprofit law, recounts, and lobbying regulation. During the election contest arising out of the 1996 election of Senator Mary Landrieu (D-LA), Ms. Weintraub served on the legal team that advised the Senate Rules Committee. Her tenure with Perkins Coie represented Ms. Weintraub’s second stint in private practice, having previously practiced as a litigator with the New York law firm of Cahill Gordon & Reindel.”
http://www.fec.gov/members/weintraub/weintraubbio.shtml
From Citizen Wells December 21, 2012.
“From the FEC December 20, 2012.
“FEC ELECTS WEINTRAUB AS CHAIR FOR 2013;
McGAHN TO SERVE AS VICE CHAIRMAN
WASHINGTON – At its open meeting today, the Federal Election Commission elected Ellen L. Weintraub as Chair and Donald F. McGahn II as Vice Chairman for 2013.
Commissioner Weintraub took office on December 9, 2002, after receiving a recess appointment. She was renominated and confirmed unanimously by the United States Senate on March 18, 2003. Commissioner Weintraub previously served as Chair in 2003. Commissioner McGahn was nominated and confirmed unanimously by the United States Senate on June 24, 2008. He was elected Chairman on July 10, 2008 and served in that capacity until December 31 of that year.
Prior to her appointment to the Commission, Commissioner Weintraub was Of Counsel to Perkins Coie LLP and a member of its Political Law Group. Commissioner Weintraub had previously practiced as a litigator with the New York firm of Cahill Gordon & Reindel.
Before joining Perkins Coie, Commissioner Weintraub was Counsel to the Committee on Standards of Official Conduct for the U.S. House of Representatives (the House Ethics Committee). There, Commissioner Weintraub focused on implementing the Ethics Reform Act of 1989. She was Editor in Chief of the House Ethics Manual and a principal contributor to the Senate Ethics Manual.
Commissioner Weintraub received her B.A., cum laude, from Yale College and her J.D. from Harvard Law School.
Commissioner McGahn took office on July 9, 2008. Prior to his appointment to the Commission, Commissioner McGahn served as head of McGahn & Associates PLLC, a Washington-based law practice specializing in election law. Commissioner McGahn also served as General Counsel to the National Republican Congressional Committee and as Counsel for the Illinois Republican Party.
Before joining the NRCC, Commissioner McGahn practiced law at Patton Boggs LLP in Washington, DC. Commissioner McGahn has been recognized for his significant pro bono work for the Lawyers’ Committee for Civil Rights Under Law. Prior to Patton Boggs LLP, Commissioner McGahn served as a judicial law clerk to the Honorable Charles R. Alexander of the Court of Common Pleas in Pennsylvania.
Commissioner McGahn attended the United States Naval Academy, the University of Notre Dame, Widener University School of Law and the Georgetown University Law Center.”
http://www.fec.gov/press/press2012/20121220newofficers.shtml
From Citizen Wells January 23, 2012.
WHY DID OBAMA REFUSE MATCHING FUNDS IN 2008?
PART 4
Obama, attorneys and Democrats control FEC
The devil himself could not have come up with a more devious plan.
Robert Bauer, of Perkins Coie, on February 1, 2007 requested an advisory opinion to keep Obama’s option for matching funds open. Bauer knew full well that Obama, not being a natural born citizen, was not eligible for matching funds. The FEC advisory opinion from March 1, 2007 responded in the affirmative.Ellen L. Weintraub, former staff member at Perkins Coie, was a Democrat appointee of the FEC at that time. She remained well beyond her scheduled tenure with the help of Barack Obama.
Obama, Robert Bauer, Democrats interaction with FEC timeline.
February 1,2007
Advisory Opinion Request: General Election Public Funding
From Obama attorney Robert Bauer to FEC
“This request for an Advisory Opinion is filed on behalf of Senator Barack Obama and the committee, the Obama Exploratory Committee, that he established to fund his exploration of a Presidential candidacy. The question on which he seeks the Commission’s guidance is whether, if Senator Obama becomes a candidate, he may provisionally raise funds for the general election but retain the option, upon nomination, of returning these contributions and accepting the public funds for which he would be eligible as the Democratic Party’s nominee.”
“cc: Chairman Robert Lenhard
Vice Chair David Mason
Commissioner Michael Toner
Commissioner Hans von Spakovsky
Commissioner Steven Walther
Commissioner Ellen Weintraub“
Note, in the above advisory opinion request, Robert Bauer was a Perkins Coie attorney and Ellen Weintraub was a former Perkins Coie staff member.
March 1, 2007
FEC advisory opinion
From Robert D. Lenhard to Robert Bauer
“The Commission concludes that Senator Obama may solicit and receive private contributions for the 2008 presidential general election without losing his
eligibility to receive public funding if he receives his party’s nomination for President, if he (1) deposits and maintains all private contributions
designated for the general election in a separate account, (2) refrains from using these contributions for any purpose, and (3) refunds the private
contributions in full if he ultimately decides to receive public funds.”
December 11, 2007
George Will in the Washington Post writes.
“Paralyze The FEC? Splendid.”
“What if the country held an election and there was no one to make sure that candidates played by the rules — no agency that could issue regulations, write
advisory opinions or bring enforcement actions against those breaking the law?”
“The six-person FEC — three members from each party — enforces the rules it writes about how Americans are permitted to participate in politics. You
thought the First Amendment said enough about that participation? Silly you.
The FEC’s policing powers may soon be splendidly paralyzed.
Three current FEC members, two Democrats and one Republican, are recess appointees whose terms will end in a few days when this session of Congress ends –
unless they are confirmed to full six-year terms.
Four Senate Democrats decided to block the Republican, Hans von Spakovsky. Republicans have responded: “All three or none.” If this standoff persists until
Congress adjourns, the three recess appointments will expire and the FEC will have just two members — a Republican vacancy has existed since April. If so,
the commission will be prohibited from official actions, including the disbursement of funds for presidential candidates seeking taxpayer financing.”
The Post wants von Spakovsky confirmed only to keep the FEC functioning. He is being blocked because four senators have put “holds” on his nomination. One of those four who might be responsible for preventing the FEC from being able to disburse taxpayer funds to Democratic presidential candidates Joe Biden, Chris Dodd and John Edwards is . . . Barack Obama.”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/12/10/AR2007121001559.html?hpid=opinionsbox1
June 19, 2008.
“Obama to Break Promise, Opt Out of Public Financing for General Election”
“In a web video to supporters — “the people who built this movement from the bottom up” — Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, announced this morning that he will not enter into the public financing system, despite a previous pledge to do so.”
“In November 2007, Obama answered “Yes” to Common Cause when asked “If you are nominated for President in 2008 and your major opponents agree to forgo private funding in the general election campaign, will you participate in the presidential public financing system?”
Obama wrote:
“In February 2007, I proposed a novel way to preserve the strength of the public financing system in the 2008 election. My plan requires both major party
candidates to agree on a fundraising truce, return excess money from donors, and stay within the public financing system for the general election.”
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2008/06/obama-to-break/
June 24, 2008
Senate confirms FEC Nominees.
From the Wall Street Journal.
“The Senate confirmed five new members to the Federal Election Commission, ending a bitter political battle that had hobbled the elections watchdog for
months.
But the Senate action came with a final twist: Republicans accused Democrats of delaying the confirmation vote one day to allow the Democratic National
Committee to file a lawsuit against the presidential campaign of Republican Sen. John McCain of Arizona.
The six-member elections agency had been without a quorum since December as Democrats objected to Republican nominee Hans Von Spakovsky for what they said was his partisan handling of voting-rights matters in his former job as a Department of Justice attorney. The dispute prevented the two parties from reaching an agreement to vote on any of the nominees.”
“Other commissioners confirmed Tuesday included Democrats Steve Walther and Cynthia Bauerly. The new Republican commissioners are Mr. Petersen, Don McGahn and Caroline Hunter. They join sitting commissioner Ellen Weintraub, a Democrat. The commission needs at least four members to take official action on election complaints, new campaign-financing rules and requests from campaigns for legal guidance.”
http://www.democracy21.org/index.asp?Type=B_PR&SEC=%7BAC81D4FF-0476-4E28-B9B1-7619D271A334%7D&DE=%7B620D20F2-742F-4979-B8D6-6597558A6716%7D
From Fox News.
“Since the beginning of the year, the commission has only had two members: Republican Chairman David Mason and Democrat Ellen Weintraub.”
August 18, 2008
From Citizen Wells FEC FOIA request.
The individual, redacted, is requesting an advisory opinion from the FEC on Obama’s eligibility to be president. An email was sent with the request. The
email provides information on why Obama is not eligible. It begins with
“It seems that Barack Obama is not qualified to be president, after all, for the following reason:”
It ends with
“Interesting! Now what? Who dropped the ball or are we all being duped? Who do you know whom you can forward this to who might be able to help
answer this question?”
August 21, 2008
Philip J Berg files lawsuit in Philadelphia Federal Court
Defendants: Obama, DNC, FEC
Obama is not a Natural Born Citizen and therefore ineligible to be President.
August 22, 2008
From Citizen Wells FEC FOIA request.
An email from David Kolker, FEC counsel, to Rebekah Harvey is certainly interesting. Rebekah Harvey was the assistant to Commissioner Ellen L. Weintraub . Prior to being appointed to the FEC, Weintraub was on the staff of Perkins Coie LLP and a member of it’s Political Law Group.
“Victory in Berg v. Obama”
August 27, 2008
Complaint served on the U.S. Attorney for DNC and FEC
August 27, 2008
From Citizen Wells FEC FOIA request.
FEC response to advisory opinion dated August 18, 2008.
“The Act authorizes the Commission to issue an advisory opinion in response to a complete written request from any person about a specific transaction or
activity that the requesting person plans to undertake or is presently undertaking.”
“your inquiry does not qualify as an advisory opinion request.”
November 11, 2008
“Obama to Most Likely Avoid FEC Audit”
“The Federal Election Commission is unlikely to conduct a potentially embarrassing audit of how Barack Obama raised and spent his presidential campaign’s record-shattering windfall, despite allegations of questionable donations and accounting that had the McCain campaign crying foul.
Adding insult to injury for Republicans: The FEC is obligated to complete a rigorous audit of McCain’s campaign coffers, which will take months, if not
years, and cost McCain millions of dollars to defend.
Obama is expected to escape that level of scrutiny mostly because he declined an $84 million public grant for his campaign that automatically triggers an
audit and because the sheer volume of cash he raised and spent minimizes the significance of his errors. Another factor: The FEC, which would have to vote to
launch an audit, is prone to deadlocking on issues that inordinately impact one party or the other – like approving a messy and high-profile probe of a
sitting president.
So, by declining public funding, Obama decreased the odds of an audit. And the FEC may not investigate due to political party affiliations of the FEC
commission members.”
http://obamashrugged.com/?p=267
May 1, 2009
“At midnight Thursday, the terms of Federal Election Commissioner Donald F. McGahn II (a Republican) and FEC Chairman Steven T. Walther (a Democrat) expired. Combined with Democrat Ellen L. Weintraub’s seat — she remains on the commission even though her term expired two years ago — President Obama has the opportunity to make his first three appointments to the six-member commission. Though FEC terms are set for six years, members are free to stay on until replacements are selected by the president and confirmed by the U.S. Senate.”
“Josh Zaharoff, deputy program director for Common Cause, argues that, short of complete overhaul, such a proposal would be the best way to ensure real
enforcement of election laws. The long-standing existing practice “ensures that the commissioners are likely to be loyal to their political party rather than
to election laws and the American people as a whole.”
After seven months without a quorum, the restocked FEC has drawn significant criticism from campaign-finance-reform advocates for its lack of serious,
independent enforcement. There have been a series of 3-3 deadlocks on key issues, resulting in a significant increase in the percentage of dismissed cases.”
http://www.iwatchnews.org/2009/05/01/2875/president-obama%E2%80%99s-opportunity-mold-fec
April 4, 2011
“More FEC Terms Expire, But Replacements Unlikely”
“The terms of Chairwoman Cynthia Bauerly (D) and Commissioner Matthew Petersen (R) expire at the end of April. The terms of Donald McGahn (R) and Steven Walther (D) expired almost two years ago.
The longest-serving commissioner is Ellen Weintraub (D), whose term expired almost four years ago. The only commissioner who will be serving an unexpired term at the end of the month is Republican Caroline C. Hunter, whom Bush nominated in 2008, for a term that expires in April 2013.
Further complicating the confirmation process is a large list of pending issues before the FEC that will affect Obama’s own re-election campaign.
One of the biggest issues is how the FEC will write new rules in the wake of the Supreme Court’s Citizens United ruling, which would set boundaries for how
hundreds of millions of dollars can be spent by third parties in the presidential election and Congressional campaigns. The issue was so important to Obama
that he admonished the Supreme Court a few days after its decision in the case during his 2010 State of the Union address.”
http://www.rollcall.com/issues/56_105/-204592-1.html?zkMobileView=true
April 16, 2011
“FEC Launches Audit Of Obama’s 2008 Campaign”
“The FEC’s decision to audit the campaign is not surprising, given that it was the largest federal campaign in history, raising more than $750 million in
receipts. If Obama’s campaign were not audited, it would have been the first presidential nominee’s campaign to escape such scrutiny since the public
financing system was created in 1976.
The potential for the FEC’s audit became increasingly more likely as the FEC questioned some of Obama campaign filings. In all, the FEC wrote 26 letters to
Obama for America warning the campaign that if it did not adequately respond to the agency’s questions that it “could result in an audit or enforcement
action.””
“As of the end of March, Obama for America had spent nearly $3 million on legal fees since the 2008 election. In all, the president’s campaign spent three
times more on lawyers after Election Day than in the two years preceding it.
The lion’s share of Obama’s legal spending went to Perkins Coie, a well-known Democratic legal and accounting firm. Perkins Coie is representing the Obama
campaign in all major legal matters, including seven of the FEC’s known investigations involving the White House bid. In each of these cases, the FEC voted to dismiss the case or found “no reason to believe” that the Obama for America or related committees had violated any laws.
Perkins Coie may be also representing Obama for America in the FEC’s spending investigation of a Republican National Committee complaint. A few weeks before the election, the RNC alleged that Obama’s campaign accepted donations from foreign nationals, received contributions that had exceed limits and submitted fictitious donor names to the agency. The status of this investigation is unknown, though the FEC confirmed it received the complaint.”
http://www.rollcall.com/news/FEC-Launches-Obama-Campaign-Audie-205014-1.html
Jan 12, 2012
“Election Watchdogs Assail Obama on FEC Appointments”
“The groups are demanding that Obama shake up the board of commissioners at the Federal Election Commission, the only agency able to enforce campaign laws.
They say political divisions among the agency’s panel of six leaders have rendered it toothless.
“The bottom line is nothing can happen to change the commission unless the White House names new commissioners, and they are refusing to do so,” said Fred Wertheimer, president of Democracy 21, a nonpartisan advocacy group. “The result is going to be an election with no enforcement.””
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/01/election-watchdogs-assail-obama-on-fec-appointments/
Why would Obama, as we know him, replace the FEC board. Since early 2007, Obama has been shielded by Robert Bauer and Ellen Weintraub. That’s right, as you read above, Weintraub is still on the FEC board, four years after her term expired. And don’t forget, after Obama secured the White House, he hired Robert Bauer as general counsel. Bauer has since returned to Perkins Coie to continue helping Obama keep his records hidden.
This is a clear conflict of interest!!!
And what about attorney ethics?
As stated above, Robert Bauer knew about Obama’s natural born citizen deficiency in February of 2007 and yet he filed a request for an advisory opinion on Obama’s behalf regarding Federal Matching Funds. This is fraud!
From Citizen Wells June 2, 2011.
“From the American Bar Association.
“A lawyer shall not counsel a client to engage, or assist a client, in conduct that the lawyer knows is criminal or fraudulent””
“Model Rules of Professional Conduct
Maintaining The Integrity Of The Profession
Rule 8.4 Misconduct”
“It is professional misconduct for a lawyer to:
(a) violate or attempt to violate the Rules of Professional Conduct, knowingly assist or induce another to do so, or do so through the acts of another;
(b) commit a criminal act that reflects adversely on the lawyer’s honesty, trustworthiness or fitness as a lawyer in other respects;
(c) engage in conduct involving dishonesty, fraud, deceit or misrepresentation;
(d) engage in conduct that is prejudicial to the administration of justice;
(e) state or imply an ability to influence improperly a government agency or official or to achieve results by means that violate the Rules of Professional
Conduct or other law; or
(f) knowingly assist a judge or judicial officer in conduct that is a violation of applicable rules of judicial conduct or other law.”
https://citizenwells.com/2015/02/01/obama-fec-scandal-ellen-weintraub-commissioner-since-december-2002-former-perkins-coie-attorney-robert-bauer-weintraub-conflict-of-interest-natural-born-citizen-ruling-can-we-expect-a-fair-adviso/
FEC complaints about Hillary DNC Democrats criminal conspiracy, James O’Keefe and Public Interest Legal Foundation charges, Obama controls FEC as well as Justice Dept, Citizen Wells exposed Obama FEC chicanery Ellen Weintraub and Perkins Coie
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Jonathan Turley et al schooled on Kamala Harris NBC status by Citizen Wells commenter, Turley commenter and of course Wells, Harris not Natural Born Citizen
Jonathan Turley et al schooled on Kamala Harris NBC status by Citizen Wells commenter, Turley commenter and of course Wells, Harris not Natural Born Citizen
“The judicial power of the United States is extended to all cases arising under the constitution. Could it be the intention of those who gave this power, to say that, in using it, the constitution should not be looked into? That a case arising under the constitution should be decided without examining the instrument under which it arises? This is too extravagant to be maintained.”
“Why does a judge swear to discharge his duties agreeably to the constitution of the United States, if that constitution forms no rule for his government? if it is closed upon him, and cannot be inspected by him?”…Marbury V Madison
“Every American President before Obama had two parents who were American citizens.”...Jonathan Turley commenter George
“The Natural Born Citizen requirement for the US Presidency should have been ruled on and clarified in 2008 by the SCOTUS. Marbury v Madison makes that clear. To not do so now would be treasonous.”…Citizen Wells
A decision was made at Citizen Wells in 2008 to go for quality over quantity in commenters. It has paid off.
The spam filters stay busy.
Longtime quality commenter Pete is a fine example.
He schools Jonathan Turley, et al on the qualifications to be POTUS as a Natural Born Citizen.
From Pete today.
“The issue for people like Turley, is that they are hung up on British Common Law and it’s consequences to the United States Criminal Justice system. Since most Americans are ignorant of their history and heritage, this is what you get.
Specifically, the US Supreme court needs to interpret the term “Natural Born Citizen”. The framers intent, that one could never be “King of England” and President of the United States, put the term into the requirements for POTUS, and the 12th Amendment added the requirement for VPOTUS. The did this to prevent ‘entanglements’. Please see letters from John Jay to George Washington, to understand that the Commander in Chief of the Military couldn’t have dual loyalties.
The poorly educated, or those that simply want a work around to the Constitution use English Common law reference for British Subjects to subvert the Constitution and the Republic. Yet these opinions have no explanation for why the War of 1812 was fought (over press ganging of US sailors who were born as British Subjects), and understanding that We the People ABSOLUTELY did not accept British Common law as it pertains to our citizens. However, the Founding Father’s clearly understood that they were born British Subjects, so that had to put an exemption into the Constitution, so that those born before 1790 didn’t have to be “Natural Born”.
So…..Where did the term Natural Born Citizen come from? Clearly it wasn’t British because 1) We didn’t accept British Common law on our citiizens. 2) British are born as Subjects, NOT CITIZENS, in that time and place. Therefore, we must look elsewhere to find what the founding fathers were reading to understand their intent. Herein lies the history of who were were allied with in 1790, and it wasn’t the British. Yes, we were most definitively allied with the French. Indeed, the answer lies here.
https://oll.libertyfund.org/titles/vattel-the-law-of-nations-lf-ed
The answer is France, and a unique piece of critical thinking at the time. Vattel’s work on laws of nations.
However, claiming that it was Vattel that they turned to, without evidence, is making a story whole cloth. On the other hand, if there were proof that those individuals who conspired to create the Republic were aware of Vattel, read Vattel, then it becomes obvious that the Term “Natural Born Citizen” is derived from that work.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-library-washington/george-washingtons-library-book-returned-221-yrs-late-idUSTRE64J4EG20100520
“The missing book came to light when the New York Society Library was restoring its 1789-1792 charging ledger, which features the borrowing history of Washington, John Adams, John Jay, Aaron Burr, Alexander Hamilton, George Clinton, and others.”
Lawyers lie, and History leaves NO DOUBT that they were reading and exchanging about Vattel’s Law of Nations. Natural Born Citizen, under Vattel, is and individual without divided loyalties at birth. That person, born of two citizen parents, on citizen soil, could claim no other country and could not be claimed by another. There was no conflict.
This story can only be understood under the geopolitical events of the time of the writing of the Constitution. We know the geopolitical events, we have the evidence of whose ideas they talked about and read, and we know why. Today’s Democrats and those Ignorant of the Constitution would destroy it and distort our history to bring their ‘new’ government. That political history is not in doubt now that we know the last POTUS used government itself to subvert the Republic as he spied on his political opponents.
In the words of our founding fathers “I hold these truths to be self evident”. The SCOTUS needs to make a decision, to take up the burden and decide upon the fate of the Republic by ‘determining’ what the term Natural Born Citizen meant.”
From astute commenter George at Jonathan Turley’s website commenting on
“Kamala Harris will NEVER be eligible to be U.S. president or vice president.
Kamala Harris’ parents were foreign citizens at the time of her birth.
– A mere “citizen” could only have been President at the time of the adoption of the Constitution – not after.
– The U.S. Constitution, Article 2, Section 1, Clause 5, requires the President to be a “natural born citizen,” which, by definition in the Law of Nations, requires “parents who are citizens” at the time of birth of the candidate and that he be “…born of a father who is a citizen;…”
– Ben Franklin thanked Charles Dumas for copies of the Law of Nations which “…has been continually in the hands of the members of our Congress, now sitting,…”
– “The importance of The Law of Nations, therefore, resides both in its systematic derivation of international law from natural law and in its compelling synthesis of the modern discourse of natural jurisprudence with the even newer language of political economy. The features help to explain the continuing appeal of this text well into the nineteenth century among politicians, international lawyers and political theorists of every complexion,” Law of Nations Editors Bela Kapossy and Richard Whatmore.
– The Jay/Washington letter of July, 1787, raised the presidential requirement from citizen to “natural born citizen” to place a “strong check” against foreign allegiances by the commander-in-chief.
– Every American President before Obama had two parents who were American citizens.
– The Constitution is not a dictionary and does not define words or phrases like “natural born citizen” as a dictionary, while the Law of Nations, 1758, did.”
“The “case law” is the pudding – it is in the Jay/Washington letter which imposed a “STRONG CHECK” against candidates for president and command in chief as citizenship status – the strongest check, “natural born citizen,” being far stronger than “citizen,” the only formal and complete definition existing in the Law of Nations, 1758, which “…has been continually in the hands of the members of our Congress, now sitting,….” according to Ben Franklin.
“Natural Born Citizen”- Strong Check
“Citizen” – Weak Check
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To George Washington from John Jay, 25 July 1787
From John Jay
New York 25 July 1787
Dear Sir
I was this morning honored with your Excellency’s Favor of the 22d
Inst: & immediately delivered the Letter it enclosed to Commodore
Jones, who being detained by Business, did not go in the french Packet,
which sailed Yesterday.
Permit me to hint, whether it would not be wise & seasonable to
provide a strong check to the admission of Foreigners into the
administration of our national Government, and to declare expressly that the Command in chief
of the american army shall not be given to, nor devolved on, any but a natural born Citizen.
Mrs Jay is obliged by your attention, and assures You of her perfect
Esteem & Regard—with similar Sentiments the most cordial and sincere
I remain Dear Sir Your faithful Friend & Servt
John Jay”
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After multiple attempts to get a comment posted and approved, I replied to several existing comments.
One of numerous articles I have posted that explains the ruse:
https://citizenwells.com/2016/11/11/chuck-todd-is-not-stupid-todd-is-along-with-media-and-democrat-party-biased-and-colluding-zero-proof-of-obama-us-birth-chuck-todd-and-nbc-staff-attack-trump-for-insulting-president-birth-certi/
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