Blagojevich trial closing arguments, Trial fixed, Verdict US Justice Department corrupt, Citizen Wells open thread, July 26, 2010

Blagojevich trial closing arguments, Trial fixed, Verdict US Justice Department corrupt

Closing arguments in the Blagojevich trial will begin, and,  according to Judge James Zagel, end today, Monday, July 26, 2010. Of course the verdict is already in. The fix was in years ago. I am convinced that Blagojevich, Obama and Rezko made a deal some time ago. The arrest of Blagojevich was conveniently delayed until after the 2008 election. The conclusion of the trial has conveniently been hurried to end months before the 2010 election. The trial continues to be misportrayed as mostly about selling the senate seat when, in fact, Blagojevich, as indicated in the legal documents, was involved in corruption going back to at least 2002. No witnesses such as Tony Rezko or Stuart Levine were called, no witnesses who would reveal the depth of corruption that Blagojevich and, yes, Obama, were involved in.

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165 responses to “Blagojevich trial closing arguments, Trial fixed, Verdict US Justice Department corrupt, Citizen Wells open thread, July 26, 2010

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  5. Good Morning! New post has new graphic – White House’s Got Talent

    I’m making a couple of corrections so it will show up here several times. Nothing I can do about it. Zach

    Have a great day.

  6. Free Speech

    Patriots need to contact all members of congress and demand investigation of theses murders.

    At least, two Identity Theft and Voter Fraud Whistleblowers, Katherine Smith of Memphis and the Monroe County Elections Commissioner Jim Miller have been murdered. There may be other murders that we don’t know about yet because of the cover up by BHO co-conspirators.

    Patriots need to demand that TN Republican Senators Alexander and Corker investigate if TN democrat gov. Bredesen was involved in the cover up of these murders and the Identity Theft and Voter Fraud by the BHO campaign.

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/686591/posts

    http://www.newschannel9.com/news/chairman-993156-commission-monroe.html
    Jonah // July 25, 2010 at 5:18 pm

  7. CW,

    I want to share the Patriotic links I read last night with your readers. Can you post my 2nd post, and delete my 1st post, as they are the same post!

    C.W, As Always,
    Thank You For Everything!!

  8. If I am not mistaken, a commenter the other day quoted Ron Paul as saying that if he brought up the USURPERS eligibility “he would be laughed out of Congress.”

    THIS IS NO LAUGHING MATTER

  9. Free Speech

    The blago fix in fed court by bo’s dept of injustice shows that Patriots will not get justice in fed court.

    It’s time for Grand Jury Indictments of bo & co-conspirators in State Courts. When demRat congressmen start getting indicted in their State courts they will turn on bo in a flash.

    For information on forming a Secret Grand Jury to investigate crimes go here:

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/06/how-to-start-and-lead-citizens-grand.html

    http://dewdropwarriors.blogspot.com/2009_03_01_archive.html

    http://grandjury.blogtownhall.com

    For information on Crimes committed by the BHO campaign:

    https://citizenwells.wordpress.com/category/nashville

  10. Free Speech

    LANDMARK LEGAL FOUNDATION

    Can A President Be Indicted While in Office, Or Must He First Be Impeached?

    BY MARK R. LEVIN AND ARTHUR F. FERGENSON

    Can a president be indicted while in office, or must he first be impeached? Recent events in Washington have renewed this once obscure debate.

    Article I, Section 3 of the United States Constitution states, in part: “Judgment in cases of impeachment shall not extend further than to removal from office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any office of honor, trust or profit under the United States: but the party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to indictment, trial, judgment and punishment, according to law.”

    There are two different concepts expressed in this part of the Constitution. First, impeachment is a political response, and the violations do not have to be specifically enumerated in a criminal code. It allows the public, through its representatives in Congress, to act on its revulsion with a president.

    Some point to Article II, Section 4 of the Constitution and claim it requires criminal wrongdoing as a condition of impeachment. That section states, “The president, vice president and all civil officers of the United States shall be removed from office on impeachment for, and conviction, of treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors.”

    No less than the late constitutional expert Raoul Berger, who was one of the nation’s leading scholars on the subject of impeachment, among others, wrote that treason, bribery, “‘high crimes and misdemeanors’ appear to be words of art confined to impeachments, without roots in the ordinary criminal law and which had no relation to whether an indictment would lie in the particular circumstances.”

    Second, the language in Article I, Section 3 makes clear that impeachment is not an exclusive remedy. A president is still subject to criminal prosecution, if warranted. He can be impeached and removed from office, but this is a limited remedy. Given this limitation, the Founding Fathers wanted to make clear that impeachment would not immunize a president and bar subsequent criminal prosecution. Obviously, this concern only arises in cases where impeachment precedes criminal prosecution. Therefore, if criminal prosecution precedes impeachment, it is not an issue.

    Criminal prosecution and conviction does not remove a president from office. Impeachment is the only mechanism for his removal, absent issues of disability. Therefore, there was no question when the Constitution was written that impeachment would be available after a criminal prosecution. Consequently, there was no need for the Founding Fathers to provide language that preserves the impeachment power after a criminal prosecution.

    Moreover, if a president truly believes that it is unconstitutional to indict a sitting president, the president has the power to stop the indictment against himself, or direct its withdrawal. He also has the power to grant himself an unconditional and complete pardon and thereby bar the prosecution. Since he has these powers, if an indictment is brought against him by the United States …he is asking for an advisory opinion. Under the Constitution, federal courts are forbidden from issuing advisory opinions.

    They do not exist to relieve the president from difficult political decisions. This is so even if the decision could lead to his impeachment and removal from office.

    The possibility of impeachment does not immunize the president from criminal prosecution. He remains, at all times, a citizen of the United States who is answerable to the law.

    ***
    Mark R. Levin is president of Landmark Legal Foundation and Arthur F. Fergenson was a law clerk to Chief Justice Warren Burger.
    usapatriots-shout

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  12. Free Speech

    According to the Great One, Mark Levine:

    The possibility of impeachment does not immunize the president from criminal prosecution. He remains, at all times, a citizen of the United States who is answerable to the law.

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/03/two-ideas-to-empower-patriots-by.html

    Remember Patriots, the case against Barack Hussein Obama will be over in Discovery, therefore, let us commence with Our Discovery of the Truth regarding the suspect commonly known to us Citizens as Barack Hussein Obama of unknown Citizenship, Allegiance and Alliances.

  13. Re: usapatriots-shout // July 25, 2010 at 11:00 pm

    Thank you for all of your wonderful posts! I love reading them!

    There are many very excellent articles here with some very excellent comments written under the articles at:

    http://www.DrKatesView.wordpress.com

    I read the following articles & the very informative comments that are under them also, and I recommend to the people who come by here to read:

    1. “The Narcissist Cornered”
    ©2010 drkate, July 24, 2010

    http://drkatesview.wordpress.com/2010/07/24/the-narcissist-cornered/

    2. “Calling All Patriots–Stop the Treason Campaign” ©2010 drkate, July 22, 2010

    http://drkatesview.wordpress.com/2010/07/22/calling-all-patriots-stop-the-treason-campaign/

    3. “Government in Open Rebellion Against the Constitution” ©2010 drkate,
    February 26, 2010

    http://drkatesview.wordpress.com/2010/02/26/government-in-open-rebellion-against-the-constitution/

    # # # #

  14. Free Speech

    blago would not have rested his case without putting on any evidence in his defense if he didn’t know that the ultimate fix was in, i.e., jurors bribed and/or blackmailed.

  15. There are many very excellent articles here with some very excellent comments written under the articles at:

    http://www.DrKatesView.wordpress.com

    I read the following article & the very informative comments that are under it, and I recommend to the people who come by here to read:

    4. “With Malice Aforethought”
    ©2010 drkate, July 20, 2010

    http://drkatesview.wordpress.com/2010/07/20/with-malice-aforethough/

    # # # #

    ~~ There are many more excellent articles at the above website!

    I hope you spend some time reading all of the many excellent articles here, and I hope you join in with the great American spirit & with the work that is being done here to try to save the USA!

    Also, I recommend people visit and read this excellent article & the information at this blog:

    “Why Muslims Don’t Worship The Same God As Christians” & the other articles at Christinewjc’s blog below ~

    http://talkwisdom.blogspot.com/2010/07/why-muslims-dont-worship-same-god-as.html

    # # # #

  16. Bringing this over from the previous thread, posted by THE Jacqlyn Smith we all know and love.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    Jacqlyn Smith // July 26, 2010 at 1:32 am
    A step in the right direction I think….all blacks need to see this…..

  17. citizenwells

    ms. helga.
    Many of you do not know that Ron Paul said that.
    That comment was sent back to me in 2008 after I was asked to present
    information about what a Natural Born Citizen is.
    A friend of the Paul family contacted him and that was his response.

  18. Free Speech

    Jonah // July 26, 2010 at 8:53 am

    demRats haven’t enslaved Blacks, they have imprisoned them in a welfare/prison system with no way out.

    25 % of Blacks are in demRat prisons, most of the other 75% are imprisoned in the welfare ghettos. Only uncle toms like jesse jackson, sharpton & bo get to become filthy rich demRats.

  19. Free Speech

    citizenwells // July 26, 2010 at 9:03 am

    Orly told me that Ron Paul told her the same thing.

    Sad to see that the best the Tea Party got was the Pauls. I suppose it is better than nothing, but clearly there will be no political solution to the bo crisis if the Pauls are the best politicians that we have got.

    The only politician that I see who is worth a damn is the Honorable Hector Maldonado.

  20. citizenwells // July 26, 2010 at 9:03 am
    ms. helga.
    Many of you do not know that Ron Paul said that.
    ——————————————

    Saul Alinsky’s Rule 5: Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.

    This has worked so well against those who dare to bring up Obama’s eligibility. If the Obama camp and the lame stream media jeer and ridicule anyone who questions his birth then they are reluctant to bring the subject up again. Even Ron Paul fell for their ploy. But we, here, know their tactics and we won’t succumb to their ridicule.

  21. Free Speech

    Jonah // July 26, 2010 at 8:53 am

    In the demrat prison system, the prisoners are mere commodities. The demrat prisons are primarily money making schemes where demrats sell overpriced soap, toothpaste and drugs to the inmates.

    Some of the demrat prisons are privately owned like Corrections Corp of America in Nashville. CCA is a FOR PROFIT corporation. CCA makes huge profits off the inmates that they imprison.

  22. GOP Primary Debate for US Senate

    Macon County Patriots and Preserving American Liberty have arranged a U.S. Senate Candidate Debate – Macon, MO August 1, 2010:

    4:00 to 6:00 pm sharp
    Macon Expo Center
    (Macon County Fairgrounds)
    1303 So. Missouri St.
    Macon, Missouri
    Seating is limited and will be on a first come basis.

    The candidates invited are:
    Congressman Roy Blunt,
    Senator Chuck Purgason,

    Hector Maldonado

    & Kristi Nichols

    Moderator for the debate is author of The Big Black Lie , The Black Sphere and
    relentless front line warrior for Liberty and Truth: Kevin Jackson.

  23. From: ETERNITY MATTERS Blog

    The Holy Bible Forever Living Word Of God: 2 Corinthians 4:18 – For what is seen is temporary, but what is unseen is eternal.

    “PRO-LIFERS DON’T CARE ABOUT KIDS AFTER THEY ARE BORN?”
    Posted on July 24, 2010
    By Neil

    “Jill Stanek, pro-lifer extraordinaire, posed this Weekend question: Are pro-lifers going to adopt all the unwanted babies? As I noted in the comments section there, I love that question. We should welcome this objection by pro-legalized abortionists. It lets us explain the underlying fallacy of their question and how they never apply it in situations outside the womb, how pro-lifers do a lot to help before and after delivery, and how the same obligation of caring falls on them.

    They may not convert but any objective middle-grounder will see the merits. Here’s a post I wrote a couple of years back that explains it.

    —–
    Jill Stanek:

    “One of the most common sound bites / jokes that pro-choicers make about pro-lifers is that we are infatuated with the fetus but don’t care about kids after they are born. The message is that if we don’t adopt all unwanted children then we have no right to complain about abortion. It is an important sound bite to be able to address, because it is very common and even pro-lifers I know are not only intimidated by it but they have used it themselves as a reason to remain silent about abortion.

    The “Pro-lifers don’t care about kids after they are born” line is one of my favorite arguments to rebut. I teach people how to do it in pro-life training sessions in a two-step approach. The tone of the conversation is important. These arguments are powerful and quite effective if they are laid out in a calm, reasoned approach. You probably won’t convert the rabid pro-choicers, but most of the middle-grounders will get the point.

    First, show that pointing out a moral wrong does not obligate you to take responsibility for the situation.

    If your neighbor is beating his wife, you call the police. The police don’t say, “Hey, buddy, unless you are willing to marry her yourself then we aren’t going to stop him from beating her.” You can use child or animal abuse as examples as well. Most people get the point pretty quickly.

    Or ask the pro-choicer what they would do if the government decided to reduce the number of homeless people by killing them. Could he protest that without having to house and feed them all himself?

    You can also use the “trot out the toddler” approach promoted by Stand to Reason and ask if it would be acceptable to object to murdering a toddler even if you aren’t willing to adopt her. Of course, the pro-choicer will always recognize the moral good to protest toddler-killing. Then you can point out that killing innocent human beings is immoral and that the unborn are human beings. So pointing out this moral wrong does not obligate us to do anything further.”

    The Full Article Continues Here:

    http://networkedblogs.com/6a6M0

  24. Starla,
    I too adopted a stray cat around 5 years ago. The Neighborhood kids used to kick him and beat him. They also had run him in front of a truck which broke his back legs. My Neighbor took him to the vet and had his legs fixed and had him neutered. I retired after that and adopted him. He is a beautiful All White Asian Long Hair with Blue Eyes. Not too long ago my Niece brought over a smaller white cat to live her too (with the same name). I now have 2 cats living here. The are finally now starting to get along.

  25. From: ETERNITY MATTERS Blog

    Excerpt:

    “Verses 33-36 make important points about God’s omnipotence (all knowing nature). I find many people who dismiss Bible verses as not being from God just because it offends their sensibilities. Of course, we need to seek to properly understand the verses in context, but once that is done we shouldn’t pick and choose those we like or those we think were inspired. The Bible claims to speak for God ~3,000 times and that the whole work is his Word. So it is either right or it isn’t. We don’t get to pick and choose which parts are inspired (That is called Dalmatian Theology).”

    The Article Continues here:

    http://networkedblogs.com/5RqVe

    # # # #

    From: ETERNITY MATTERS Blog

    “Works without faith: Just as dead”
    “Romans 16”

    “Romans 9”
    Greetings! By Neil
    July 11, 2010

    Excerpt:

    “God’s Sovereign Choice”

    9 I speak the truth in Christ—I am not lying, my conscience confirms it in the Holy Spirit— 2 I have great sorrow and unceasing anguish in my heart. 3 For I could wish that I myself were cursed and cut off from Christ for the sake of my brothers, those of my own race, 4 the people of Israel. Theirs is the adoption as sons; theirs the divine glory, the covenants, the receiving of the law, the temple worship and the promises. 5 Theirs are the patriarchs, and from them is traced the human ancestry of Christ, who is God over all, forever praised! Amen.

    Some people think we shouldn’t share the Gospel with Jewish people because they are covered under the Old Covenant with God. But consider what Paul is saying here and how it makes the point that Jewish people need Jesus, too. He was saying that he’d give up his salvation if he could so the rest of the Jews could be saved. The point is that he can’t do that, and that they need to come to Jesus on their own.

    We can learn two powerful lessons from Paul’s salvation:

    1. If someone as awful as Paul — whose former role was terrorizing Christians — can be redeemed, there is hope for us.

    2. If an outstanding Jew like Paul still needed Jesus to be saved, then so does every other human on the planet.”

    The Article Continues Here:

    http://networkedblogs.com/5GS8o

    # # # #

  26. Philo-Publius

    Goldman reveals where bailout cash went

    Goldman Sachs sent $4.3 billion in federal tax money to 32 entities, including many overseas banks…
    http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/banking/2010-07-24-goldman-bailout-cash_N.htm

    And we and our kids have to pay for it.

  27. Here is another Christian sermon, we can enjoy together ; )!!

    From: ETERNITY MATTERS Blog

    THE FOREVER LIVING WORDS OF THE FOREVER LIVING CREATOR, ALMIGHTY GOD, 100% Truly & 100% Factually Teaches Us & Reminds Us In The HOLY BIBLE In:

    2 Corinthians 4:18: “For what is seen is temporary, but what is unseen is eternal.”

    Excerpt:

    “Romans 8”
    Posted on July 9, 2010 by Neil

    “Greetings! This may be my favorite chapter in the Bible, jammed with great news and promises.

    Life Through the Spirit

    8 Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus, 2 because through Christ Jesus the law of the Spirit of life set me free from the law of sin and death.

    Now that’s good news. Meditate on that for a moment. No condemnation! Freedom from the law of sin and death! When you slip Satan will try to make you feel condemned all over again. Don’t let him. As James 4:7 says, “Submit yourselves, then, to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.”

    3 For what the law was powerless to do in that it was weakened by the sinful nature, God did by sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful man to be a sin offering. And so he condemned sin in sinful man, 4 in order that the righteous requirements of the law might be fully met in us, who do not live according to the sinful nature but according to the Spirit.

    5 Those who live according to the sinful nature have their minds set on what that nature desires; but those who live in accordance with the Spirit have their minds set on what the Spirit desires. 6 The mind of sinful man is death, but the mind controlled by the Spirit is life and peace; 7 the sinful mind is hostile to God. It does not submit to God’s law, nor can it do so. 8 Those controlled by the sinful nature cannot please God.

    These are powerful statements – just one after another. And like many passages, they point to the exclusivity of Jesus. Consider all of Paul’s contrasts and how one side has Jesus and one does not. Some people like to claim that all religions lead to God, but that is completely counter to what the Bible teaches. Religious pluralism is intellectually bankrupt. Run, don’t walk, from “Christians” who teach otherwise.

    9 You, however, are controlled not by the sinful nature but by the Spirit, if the Spirit of God lives in you. And if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Christ. 10 But if Christ is in you, your body is dead because of sin, yet your spirit is alive because of righteousness. 11 And if the Spirit of him who raised Jesus from the dead is living in you, he who raised Christ from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through his Spirit, who lives in you.”

    The Full Article Continues Here:

    http://networkedblogs.com/5D7CF

  28. Starla

    I am very familiar with Dr. Kate’s work. She was a guest on my radio program twice. Her research is superior and her insights amazing.

    Thanks for reminding me about her wonderful work.

  29. United States Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia stated in the case of United States vs. Williams: “Rooted in long centuries of Anglo-American history, the Grand Jury is mentioned in the Bill of Rights, but not in the body of the Constitution. It has not been textually assigned, therefore, to any of the three branches described in the first three Articles. It is a constitutional fixture in its own right…In fact, the whole theory of its (the Grand Jury) function is that it belongs to no branch of the institutional Government, serving as a kind of buffer or referee between the Government and the people.”

  30. ***TREASONGATE: A Sitting President Can Be Indicted*

    And so can a sitting Vice President.

    For a change, I’m not going to give you my own analysis. Instead, I’m going to quote arch conservative lawyer, the legal sidekick of Rush Limbaugh, the infamous Mark Levin of the Landmark Legal Foundation, aka “The Great One”. Let’s have a look at what he has to say, and what Rush totally agreed with, regarding the indictment of a sitting President. This comes from an an official Landmark Legal brief:

    LANDMARK LEGAL FOUNDATION
    Can A President Be Indicted While in Office, Or Must He First Be Impeached?

    BY MARK R. LEVIN AND ARTHUR F. FERGENSON
    January 23, 1998

    Can a president be indicted while in office, or must he first be impeached? Recent events in Washington have renewed this once obscure debate.

    Article I, Section 3 of the United States Constitution states, in part: “Judgment in cases of impeachment shall not extend further than to removal from office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any office of honor, trust or profit under the United States: but the party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to indictment, trial, judgment and punishment, according to law.”

    There are two different concepts expressed in this part of the Constitution. First, impeachment is a political response, and the violations do not have to be specifically enumerated in a criminal code. It allows the public, through its representatives in Congress, to act on its revulsion with a president.

    Some point to Article II, Section 4 of the Constitution and claim it requires criminal wrongdoing as a condition of impeachment. That section states, “The president, vice president and all civil officers of the United States shall be removed from office on impeachment for, and conviction, of treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors.”

    No less than the late constitutional expert Raoul Berger, who was one of the nation’s leading scholars on the subject of impeachment, among others, wrote that treason, bribery, “‘high crimes and misdemeanors’ appear to be words of art confined to impeachments, without roots in the ordinary criminal law and which had no relation to whether an indictment would lie in the particular circumstances.”

    Second, the language in Article I, Section 3 makes clear that impeachment is not an exclusive remedy. A president is still subject to criminal prosecution, if warranted. He can be impeached and removed from office, but this is a limited remedy. Given this limitation, the Founding Fathers wanted to make clear that impeachment would not immunize a president and bar subsequent criminal prosecution. Obviously, this concern only arises in cases where impeachment precedes criminal prosecution. Therefore, if criminal prosecution precedes impeachment, it is not an issue.

    Criminal prosecution and conviction does not remove a president from office. Impeachment is the only mechanism for his removal, absent issues of disability. Therefore, there was no question when the Constitution was written that impeachment would be available after a criminal prosecution. Consequently, there was no need for the Founding Fathers to provide language that preserves the impeachment power after a criminal prosecution.

    Moreover, if a president truly believes that it is unconstitutional to indict a sitting president, the president has the power to stop the indictment against himself, or direct its withdrawal. He also has the power to grant himself an unconditional and complete pardon and thereby bar the prosecution. Since he has these powers, if an indictment is brought against him by the United States – meaning, by the Executive Branch that he heads – and he asks a court to dismiss it, he is asking for an advisory opinion. Under the Constitution, federal courts are forbidden from issuing advisory opinions.

    They do not exist to relieve the president from difficult political decisions. This is so even if the decision could lead to his impeachment and removal from office.

    The possibility of impeachment does not immunize the president from criminal prosecution. He remains, at all times, a citizen of the United States who is answerable to the law.
    ***
    Mark R. Levin is president of Landmark Legal Foundation and Arthur F. Fergenson was a law clerk to Chief Justice Warren Burger.

  31. What ever happened to the song……

    We Shall Overcome?

  32. MsHelga,

    I m the that reposted the letter pertaining to Ron Paul.

    It was on yesterdays post.

  33. Would it not be finacally smarter to clip men, therefore no reason for an abortion? or welfare? Do away with marriage….less need for a lawyer..no need to worry about same sex marriage..

  34. Free Speech

    Ron Paul did say he didn’t want to risk his career by ridicule if he brought the eligibility issue.

    There are a whole lot of well known talk show hosts and politicians who talk the talk but don’t walk the walk. All of them avoid the birth certificate issue. What that tells me is they are controlled by the regime. There are no longer any free people. The more they have to lose, the more they are controlled.

    One of my greatest hopes was Sarah Palin who sold out to Fox news who is partly owned by the Muslim Prince Alweed. Sarah Palin is so silent on the issue it screams at me. I listen to Rush religiously but he avoids the eligibility issue, too. Don’t forget every Republican Congress person who failed to ask for Obama’s credentials when the votes from the electoral college were to be counted on January 20, 2009 (could be wrong about the date).

    None of the stars on Fox news ever mentions the issue–except for Bill O’Slyly who tries to debunk it with stupid logic. Sean Hannity was scheduled to speak at a Tea Party group but was ordered not to by Fox. What was that all about?

    Me thinks –regardless how much I may like them–they are all speaking with forked tongue. Me thinks they are simply riding on the wave of American discontent to elevate their own career.
    America has been screwed, blewed, and tattooed. Wew are on our own with no fairy God mother to come to our rescue.

    Except for Maldonado, what candidate hopeful is making confronting the most important issue in the world his/her platform?

    They knew they were guilty the first time they failed to challenge Obama’s credentials.

  35. Evidence of War Crimes: Julian Assange, the founder of Wikileaks, explains why he decided to publish thousands of secret US military files on the war in Afghanistan (video)

  36. There is no justice in America today…our country is in a free fall and it seems like nothing can be done to avoid a total collapse and the anarchy that will follow.

    What the obama obots don’t seem to grasp is the fact that this collapse will effect EVERYONE (except George Soros) who will be long gone and in hiding with all of Americ’s money.

    If we, as American’spermit this to happen, then I guess we will deserve the breadlines that will come…..

    Come on America, wake up to what’s happening to our country.

    Demand a pledge from the man you will vote for in November…”That Congress shall pass no law that does not apply equally to ALL citizens (including them), that Congress cannot vote themselves a pay raise when the country is in deficit spending, and that all persons running for any public office, including the POTUS shall be qualified according to the Constitution of the United States”. The last part of that doesn’t mean taking a politicians word that he’s qualified for the office e seeks….it means produce your long-form birth certificate and prove it!

  37. Here is the repost of what Ron Paul said…

    SirWilliam says July 25, 2010 at 11:56 am

    Letter from personal knowledge of Ron Paul the coward“

    …I did one more thing: Dec 26th, 2008 – I was home visiting my parents fo the holidays. I picked up the phone and called Ron Paul. He represents my home town, and my parents and sisters’ family, as well as several childhood friends classmates I grew up in Lake Jackson TX, and before he was a congressman, Dr Paul was my OBGYN! (He’s delivered a few thousand babie in my hometown before becoming a congressman) I went to school with his kids; graduated with one of them in ’77.

    I was able to chat with Dr Paul for a solid 15 minutes that day. During tha conversation, I made it VERY clear tha I was concerned about Obama’ citizenship. I then point-blank ASKED him if he was going to present an objection to the certification of the electora votes, based on Obama NOT being a NBC, and a LACK of evidence accordingly. His response: “If I did that, I’d be laughed out of Congress” What a stunning response. My jaw dropped about 10 inches… That pretty much “did it” for me. It knocked the wind right out of my sails. haven’t really been the same since. I mean when a so-called “constitutional” man like Dr Paul says something like that, ya just have to ask yourself, “WHAT NOW”??

    It was the most surreal 15 minute conversation I’ve ever had with an elected politician. I honestly hope he loses his seat in November, but I doubt he does They love him down there. (sigh) Anyway, just wanted to share that with ya.”

    My response…. Constitutionalist my Arse….

  38. Re: usapatriots-shout // July 26, 2010 at 10:26 am

    I went to your website & blog last night.
    USA-Patriots-Shout, you truly have so many Very Excellent & Great Articles at your website that I have loved reading here:

    http://usapatriotsshoutinfoservice.wordpress.com/

    HERE IS A GREAT & A VERY EXCELLENT MUST READ ARTICLE:

    From:

    http://usapatriotsshoutinfoservice.wordpress.com/2010/01/31/how-to-become-an-undergroud-ppublilsher/

    “HOW TO BECOME AN UNDERGROUND PUBLISHER – JANUARY 31, 2010”

    By: USAPatriots-Shout

    Excerpt:

    “Why We Need to Become Underground Publishers”

    “Well, by now we should have all heard Obama’s state of the union address–. If you didn’t actually hear or watch it, by now you have heard a whole lot of commentary about it. Since I watched the entire punishing 70 minutes of it, kept notes, and listened to the commentaries afterwards—I can personally tell you it was one of the most frightening speeches for America I ever heard! He made it very clear he intends to stay on course and turning America into a communist/
    fascist country. Anybody who opposes him will be retaliated against—as he already did when he incorrectly chastised the Supreme Court for their recent decision on the McCain/Feingold case.

    What Obama said is not the scariest part of the speech. What the most horrific issue of the speech is the fact that 84% of America thought it was a great speech. That means 84% of America did not get it! That means 84% of America fails to recognize Americans are about to lose all their personal freedoms, rights, property, and even life and are supporting the very government fully prepared to do so. That means 84% of Americans—due to lack of correct, factual, and truthful information about Barack Obama, the Progressive movement, the philosophical/political belief system of Obama czars, the full meaning of what the health care bill will do to empower government over every aspect of our lives—- that was responsibility of main stream media to inform, have the power to vote America as we know it into oblivion!

    To sum it up, America’s approximate population is 300,000,0000. 84% of that is 252,000,0000 Americans ignorant of facts and truth about what Obama’s regime is really doing to America. That means all of America will be doomed because of IGNORANCE. We cannot afford the price of ignorance. We do not have to allow this to happen. This also means there are at least 25,000,000 Americans who do know the facts.”

    READ THE FULL MUST READ ARTICLE HERE:

    http://usapatriotsshoutinfoservice.wordpress.com/2010/01/31/how-to-become-an-undergroud-ppublilsher/

    ~~ There are many, many very excellent article at this website. I hope you spend sometime reading them and spreading them far & wide for many others to enjoy & to share!

    http://usapatriotsshoutinfoservice.wordpress.com/

    Here are some videos from usapatriots-shout:

    http://usapatriots-shout.blogspot.com/2010/04/restore-america-plan.html

    USAPatriots-Shout,
    Do you have a Radio Show on Mondays at 3 pm on BlogTalk Radio? If so, can you share the direct link here with us? I’d love to know, so I can listen to it while I am working! I’ll look for your answer & update here… I would love to listen! Thank you so very much!

  39. There’s plenty of proof for Grand Jury Indictments of BHO & his co-conspirators in County Courts all across America

    There are many examples of Grand Juries doing their duties are indicting corrupt politicians. 1 demrat governor, 1 demrat Senator, several demrat politicians , several demrat sheriffs, 4 demrat judges have been indicted in the last 20 years in Nashville alone. The most recent judge to be indicted by the Grand Jury was Judge Thomas W. Brothers for drug money laundering.

    It is rare that a Grand Jury indicts a DA but it has happened in the celebrated case of Dutch Shultz, the Nifong North Carolina case and in these recent cases.

    https://citizenwells.wordpress.com/category/nashville/

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_jury

    For those who are skeptical of the power of the Grand Jury to operate independent of the prosecutor or indeed target a prosecutor. Take a look at this Mississippi:

    Because grand juries are generally composed of ordinary citizens with no special training or experience in the law, they usually follow the lead of the prosecutor assigned to them. The classic complaint of defendants’ attorneys is that grand jurors would indict a ham sandwich if the prosecutor asked them to. But they don’t always do as the prosecutor wishes, as Jeannene Pacific, the district attorney in Jones County, Mississippi, discovered. Ms. Pacific became the target of her own grand jury when it sought to investigate over $35,000 paid by the county’s Worthless Check Unit to Pacific and her staff as “salary supplements.” Alarmed, Pacific asked the local court to forbid the grand jury’s actions. Although the local court did so, the Mississippi Supreme Court ruled that the grand jury had the power to investigate:

    “The grand jury must be free to pursue its investigations unhindered by external influence or supervision so long as it does not trench on the legitimate rights of any witness called before it. The court generally cannot limit the grand jury, its legitimate investigation, interfere with its investigatory function, control the nature of its investigation, prohibit consideration of offenses within any particular class of crimes, stay its proceedings, dismiss a matter, or do various other things.”

    Ex Parte Jones County Grand Jury, 705 So. 2d 1308 (Miss. 1997)

  40. There are many, many very excellent articles at this website. I hope you spend some time reading them and spreading them far & wide for many others to enjoy & to share!

    http://usapatriots-shout.blogspot.com/2010/04/restore-america-plan.html

    A MUST READ ARTICLE

    From: http://usapatriots-shout.blogspot.com/2010_06_01_archive.html

    Author: USAPatriots-Shout
    Published: Tuesday, June 15, 2010

    “ARE THE CANDIDATES COMPLICIT IN OBAMA’S USURPATION?”

    “Here is the acid test. Insist the candidates do the following:

    CANDIDATES MUST DEMAND OBAMA PRODUCE HIS SEALED RECORDS OR STEP DOWN.

    If candidates give you any one of the following answers—then do not vote for him/her

    1. Obama is qualified, he is a native citizen
    2. All the cases in the courts regarding this issue have been thrown out
    3. I don’t want to risk by career by being ridiculed
    4. the people voted for him, so he is the will of the people
    5. What would happen to the country if it is ruled he is not eligible

    This is the acid test that reveals their secret character. Check it out. What is the candidate’s platform? Does their promise list include a willingness to demand Obama produce his documents or step down? When they are out campaigning and fail to mention Obama’s eligibility question, ask they where they stand on it.
    If not—then:

    1. The candidates are complicit in Obama’s usurpation of the government
    2. Candidates are in denial
    3. Candidates are obfuscating
    4. Candidates are placing their careers above country
    5. Candidates are deceiving their supporters and voters
    6. Candidates are neither different nor better than the corrupt incumbents who violated their oath and duty to protect and serve the Constitution of America and serve their constituents by protecting their best interest.
    7. Candidates have already betrayed their country to satisfy their own ambition
    8. Candidates will most certainly betray their public trust when confronted with a vote against the public in trade to stay in power.

    The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

    While the issues most candidates are claiming they plan to bring forward if elected are basically good they fail to understand that unless Obama is first removed from office they cannot become a reality…..”

    THIS MUST READ ARTICLE CONTINUES HERE:

    http://usapatriots-shout.blogspot.com/2010_06_01_archive.html

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  41. Here Is An Archive of Excellent Articles.
    Please Spread The Excellent Articles Far & Wide With Everyone You Can!!

    THERE IS GREAT & INSIGHTFUL INFORMATION & SUGGESTIONS HERE
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    Are the candidates complicit in Obama’s usurpation…
    ► May (4)
    SORRY, DENNIS MCHALE, YOU DON’T GET OFF THE HOOK T…
    SESTAK BRIBE IMPEACHABLE–BIG DEAL
    Buzz Lightyear: May 31, 2000 to May 15, 2010 He …
    Challenge to the November Candidates!
    ▼ April (6)
    Demand the Candidates Prove What Is Most Important…
    Only in America
    Islam Part of America, OMG!
    The Restore America Plan
    NOt one Candidate Will Get My Vote In November
    Who Quashed BHO’s birth certificate issue?
    ► March (4)
    This is chilling
    WE Don’t Need No Stinkin’ Gun Control
    The Bottom Line Regarding Obama’s Win!
    THIS IS WHY YOU SCARE ME, US PRESIDENT OBAMA
    ► February (6)
    MSM Finally Revealed
    He Is a Communist and a Muslim
    Isn’t This the Way Most of Us Feel?
    More Obama and Progressive Stupidity
    Great News–History in the Making!
    Obama Finally Recognizes Bush
    ► January (11)
    The Shoe Bomber is Sentenced
    Do You Fear Obama
    Quo Warranto
    Obama Signs Martial Law Executive Order
    Obituary
    Sarah Palin
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    Beck Has Lost It
    Obama’s Czars
    10 More Reasons to Not Pass the Health Bill
    Remove the Fraud From Office in 2010
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    ► December (9)
    judicata-stated on http://www.telegraph.co.uk on 12/30/09…
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    Call them enablers and ridicule them!
    BRITISH LAW DECLARES OBAMA A BRITISH CITIZEN!
    ILLEGAL CONGRESS–REDRESS
    America No LOnger A Republic
    President Obama Scares Lou Pritchet
    What is Barack Obama
    Become an Under Ground Pupblisher
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    vote Them Out
    I Will Side With The Muslims
    Intimidation then Normalization
    Global Crime Families United
    ► October (3)
    The Eagle Weeps As The Turkey Fouls Its Nest
    He finally did it! He declared a national emergen…
    Obama–Nobel prize? ? ?
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  42. Philo-Publius

    Franken warns that GOP Congress would bring ‘truly dangerous agenda’

    Sen. Al Franken (D-Minn.), addressing a convention of liberal bloggers and activists Saturday evening, implored the left to fight to stay in power in the midterm elections. “If Republicans take back Congress they’ll implement a truly dangerous agenda,” Franken told the Netroots Nation gathering in Las Vegas.
    http://tinyurl.com/2fhfabc

    Yes I can see how restoring the Constitution and what our Founders gave us can be a dangerous thing to progressives.

  43. Starla,

    Thank you for your support. Thank you for sharing some of my articles. I hope you are aware that many of the articles on the site were not written by me. Thanks to the many better writers and researchers than I, I was permitted to post their works, too.

    What I most appreciate about you is your dedication to sharing information with all of us. WEW need as much information from as many people as possible. Information is powerful–especially in this mid term election year.

  44. My biggest disappointment is Rush Limbaugh. I have been listening to him since the late 80’s. I had the pleasure of meeting his late mother -Millie in the mid 90’s when I drove to his hometown. She was a tall, graceful and slender woman who also was a pilot. Her maiden name was Armstrong and grew up in Arkansas as a Democrat.
    Every 4th of July Rush would read the speech his father once gave about the founding fathers pledging their “Lives,Honor and Fortunes.”

    I think it is time for Rush to touch that third rail of “eligibility”. How much power and money does one need?

    Lord Acton’s Dictum

    “Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Great men are almost always bad men, even when they exercise influence and not authority: still more when you superadd the tendency or certainty of corruption by full authority. There is no worse heresy than the fact that the office sanctifies the holder of it.”

  45. Free Speech

    When grand juries and runaway grand juries first came forward, I was so filled with hope. I truly believed that those systems of law that carry out orders for arrest, produce evidence, and sopeona witnesses would jump at the decisions made by the grand juries. They did not. They merely pigeon holed all of the legal work by grand juries and all the law suits brought against Obama the criminal.

    So I ask you. Who is going to enforce the decisions of the grand juries? The county sherrif, the local police department, the FBI, the CIA, the military ? ? ?

    In my foggy head I imagined the grandy jury finding Obama guilty of usurpation then presenting the decision to an honest judge (so far none seem to exist) and the judge giving orders to whatever force that has the power to arrest the Obamas–even if that meant with the help of the military.

    Pastor Manning produced the best trial regarding Obama’s Columbia attendence and all the lies Barack Obama and Michele Evita told. For historical purposes I think Pastor Manning made a great contribution to our modern history. It was still just another exercise in futility.

  46. Philo-Publius

    Rush has poked fun at Obama from time to time about the birth certificate and he is a relentless voice speaking against his socialist policies everyday.

    RUSH: What do Obama and God have in common? Neither has a birth certificate. How do they differ? God does not think he’s Obama. And there’s another difference between God and Obama, and that is that liberals love Obama.
    http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_061009/content/01125110.guest.html

  47. Philo-Publius

    Reid Pledges Action to Change Filibuster Rules

    http://tinyurl.com/2484ubn

  48. I wonder if Gibbs is going to get any tough questions about what they knew (and when they knew it) regarding the release of the Lockerbie bomber? Another game of “Twister” at the WH press briefing.

  49. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    Starla // July 26, 2010 at 8:40 am
    and
    Starla // July 26, 2010 at 8:44 am

    ========================================

    Thank you for the well-organized and
    helpful links. Formatting and presentation
    DO matter (not just content) in getting
    your points across. This is a good example
    for us all to follow.

  50. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    Zero’s SSN Irregularities

    Does anybody have a good and believable theory as to why Zero has an illegitimate SSN, and apparently many of them?

    Sure, perhaps his citizenship status required him to “skirt” the system, but that might explain ONE, but not so MANY? What was/is he up to?

  51. Anyone care to comment?
    Just putting this out there, the latest argument, involving the 12th Amendment, obots are using:

    “Spiro Theodore Agnew, born 1918, was the 39th Vice-President of the United States, serving under Richard Nixon from 1969 to 1973.

    As one might guess from his name, Agnew was of Greek heritage. His father was Theodore Spiros Agnew (formerly Anagnostopoulos), who immigrated to the United States from Greece in 1897.

    And like Barack Obama, Agnew’s father was not a U.S. citizen when Agnew was born. To evidence this, I offer the Agnew family’s entry in the 1920 U.S. Census (see lines 72-75), where just three lines above the entry for one-year-old Spiro Agnew, Theodore Agnew’s citizenship is clearly listed as “Alien”:”

    http://barackryphal.blogspot.com/2010/01/spiro-agnew.html

  52. Free Speech

    In 1998 the Great One, Mark Levine, wrote an article entitled: “Can A President Be Indicted While in Office, Or Must He First Be Impeached?”

    The Great One’s Article is more relevant today than the day he wrote it. In summation of his article, Levine wrote, “The possibility of impeachment does not immunize the president from criminal prosecution. He remains, at all times, a citizen of the United States who is answerable to the law.”

    Barrack Hussein Obama has spent over two million dollars (that we know about) on private lawyers to hide facts about his eligibility to be President; and he has illegally utilized Department of Justice lawyers to successfully avoid impeachment so far.

    Yet lawyers and politicians continue to clamor for impeachment over and over again, expecting a different result. The irony of these redundant, though well intentioned, efforts is that had the people of the United States simply used the power of the 4th Branch of our Government, the Citizens Grand Jury to begin with, BHO could have been brought to justice months ago. Thus, leaving impeachment to the politicians in Congress as a mere formality; i.e., even the most corrupt politicians in DC could not countenance having an indicted criminal in the White House.

    You might ask what is this power of the 4th Branch of Government?

    Another great legal scholar, Justice Antonin Scalia described it best: “Rooted in long centuries of Anglo-American history, the Grand Jury is mentioned in the Bill of Rights, but not in the body of the Constitution. It has not been textually assigned, therefore, to any of the three branches described in the first three Articles. It is a constitutional fixture in its own right…In fact, the whole theory of its (the Grand Jury) function is that it belongs to no branch of the institutional Government, serving as a kind of buffer or referee between the Government and the people.”

    You see our Founding Fathers never intended for us to be lorded over by corrupt criminals in the White House and Congress. To the contrary, our Founding Fathers intended for We the People to have control over our Government and our politicians. That is one of the primary reasons that they bestowed upon us that extraordinary Bill of Rights which provided for the Grand Jury System controlled by the people not the politicians.

    Some mistakenly concluded that Grand Juries are under the control of District Attorneys or judges, but the celebrated 1935 New York case of Dutch Schultz proves that a Grand Jury can investigate anyone, including the DA, if corruption is suspected. The DA in the Schultz case, William Dodge, was receiving bribes from the mob to fix the trial of Dutch Schultz. The Grand Jury was alerted to Dodge’s scheme and they indicted Dodge and Schultz.

    In the 1997 Mississippi case involving Jeannene Pacific, the district attorney in Jones County, Mississippi, the Grand Jury targeted the DA for investigation when it was discovered that she had taken $35,000 from the county’s Worthless Check Unit. Pacific attempted to get the courts to halt the Grand Jury investigation of her suspect receipt of funds, but the Mississippi Supreme Court ruled against the DA stating: “The grand jury must be free to pursue its investigations unhindered by external influence…The court generally cannot limit the grand jury, its legitimate investigation, interfere with its investigatory function, control the nature of its investigation, prohibit consideration of offenses within any particular class of crimes, stay its proceedings, dismiss a matter, or do various other things.”

    In Tennessee in recent years one democrat governor, one democrat senator, several democrat sheriffs and, at least, four democrat judges have been indicted by Grand Juries. We are all familiar with the Duke Lacrosse Case wherein a corrupt DA, Nifong, was indicted by a North Carolina Grand Jury. All these recent cases prove that a Grand Jury’s investigatory function is not controlled by judges or district attorneys.

    In our Founding Fathers’ prescient wisdom, they designed a Grand Jury System in which no man, not even the President of the United States, is above the Law.

    http://grandjury.blogtownhall.com

  53. 12th Amendment.
    “But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.”

  54. Free Speech // July 26, 2010 at 1:10 pm

    Quite interesting, thanks for the read.
    Nice to know the Grand Jury’s DID make headway.

  55. Jacqlyn Smith

    #

    Citizen Carlyle (FUBO) // July 26, 2010 at 1:03 pm

    Zero’s SSN Irregularities

    Does anybody have a good and believable theory as to why Zero has an illegitimate SSN, and apparently many of them?

    Sure, perhaps his citizenship status required him to “skirt” the system, but that might explain ONE, but not so MANY? What was/is he up to?
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    He was trafficking drugs and money laundering….I’m sure Marty Dider knows lots about Barry’s escapades!

  56. Free Speech,

    How are we going to get from a grand jury’s decision to implementing the arrest of usurper?

  57. Jacqlyn Smith

    #

    DABIG // July 26, 2010 at 1:12 pm

    12th Amendment.
    “But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.”
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Hi DABIG…..just cuz Agnew may have skirted the Constitution doesn’t make it right…..so did Chester Arthur…..that tells me the system of certifying these folks is broken……well….NO….the WHOLE SYSTEM IS BROKEN AND CORRUPT…..America…..stand up and be heard or be enslaved!!!

  58. Philo-Publius // July 26, 2010 at 12:44 pm

    Rush has poked fun at Obama from time to time about the birth certificate and he is a relentless voice speaking against his socialist policies everyday.

    RUSH: What do Obama and God have in common? Neither has a birth certificate. How do they differ? God does not think he’s Obama. And there’s another difference between God and Obama, and that is that liberals love Obama.

    * * * * * * * * *

    I, too, have heard Rush make short casual statements about Obama’s failure to produce his documents. The statements are short and innocuous.

    With Rush’s profound talent for breaking statements and stories into the finest details that describe beyond a shadow of a doubt, he has never done so on this subject.

    With all the information now available about Obama’s Kenyan birth, the forgery of the COLB, the authenticated Kenyan birth certificate, and the Globe’s two front page stories claiming Obama is not a US citizen, Ruch could do a three hour story and stillhave not covered it all.

    Let us not forget the Lt. Colnol Lakin court martial attempt, Maria Apuzzo, Phil Berg, Dr. Orly Taitz, and all the rest. Sorry a couple of wise cracks and jokes from Rush doesn’t cut the muster for me.

  59. DABIG // July 26, 2010 at 1:08 pm

    Anyone care to comment?
    *****************************************

    That proves the USURPER was born in Kenya!!??$$

    I have a 2PM appointment with my psychiatrist.

  60. Jacqlyn Smith

    This is very interesting for those of you that believe in prophecy…….Just posted at…..
    http://nesaranews.blogspot.com/
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Two Presidents At The Same Time – prophecy April 4, 2008
    Submitted by D – Thanks
    Monday, July 26, 2010

    Check Out this prophetic word given by Kim Clement on April 4, 2008 at

    http://kimclementvault.com/prophecyread.asp?num=275

    The last part of the word states:

    And they shall say, “but now there is a second President, how can we have two presidents?” An unusual thing, isn’t it, says the Spirit of the Lord? Why would it be that one with a double mind would stand up and face the people? No, they shall say “we have two presidents, what do we do now?” Fear not, for God said, as I promised before this is My Nation and I will change things according to the time and season and I told you now in Spring I will expose and reveal things that have been hidden so that My Nation can move into this next election and to the next phase with victory and honor and glory, says the Lord of Hosts!

    There is a second word also on November 7, 2008

    http://kimclementvault.com/prophecyread.asp?num=318

    God said this is going to be a year, or the next year, of making history. This is going to be a time where people will make history. When I saw it happen a few nights ago, the Lord’s Spirit spoke to me clearly and said it’s time for America to make history again. The inventions and the great pioneering that they did, it is time for America to make history again. This is just the beginning. For God said through these next few years history will be made over and over and over. Men will make history. Women will make history. Young people will make history. And God said surely a mantle has fallen upon America to change the thoughts and the processes of men. America, it is time to make history again and so it shall be that God will cast a mantle upon you so that you will make history again and again and again says the Lord.

    You will make history, I’ll make history. And they will say “we had some great forefathers.” Our future generation will say “we had some great ancestors. They made it happen for us because they tapped into the creative force and the creative energy that God allowed us to have and did something viable so that the earth surely would rejoice at the presence of the people of God in the United States of America.”

    There are more prophetic words that I think point to what is happening now if you take the time to read through them.

  61. DABIG // July 26, 2010 at 1:08 pm

    “Anyone care to comment?
    Just putting this out there, the latest argument, involving the 12th Amendment, obots are using”
    ***************************
    If the info about Agnew’s parentage is correct (and it probably is), my response to obots would be that “two wrongs don’t make a right.” Agnew wasn’t a NBC and neither is BHO.

  62. Free Speech

    usapatriots-shout // July 26, 2010 at 1:28 pm

    Free Speech,

    How are we going to get from a grand jury’s decision to implementing the arrest of usurper?
    ***********************************************

    My Tennessee Farmer Friends always told me, “Don’t worry ’bout the mules goin’ blind. Just load the wagon.”

    To paraphrase Rev Manning, SCOTUS will smack that “jack legged mack daddy” down.

  63. Jacqlyn Smith // July 26, 2010 at 1:36 pm

    Hi DABIG…..just cuz Agnew may have skirted the Constitution doesn’t make it right…..so did Chester Arthur…..that tells me the system of certifying these folks is broken……well….NO….the WHOLE SYSTEM IS BROKEN AND CORRUPT…..America…..stand up and be heard or be enslaved!!!
    ****************
    Agreed Jacqlyn, however when you look at the entry of Theodore Spiros Agnew (Spiro T’s Father)
    it does clearly state “Al” meaning Alien not Naturalized. They’re claiming double standard.
    We all know two wrong don’t make it right, but they
    do make a point in their “double standard” claim.
    I have also heard repeated several times here and on other blogs/radio; “Natural Born status ONLY applies to POTUS not VP. Well, the 12th Amendment says it isn’t so. Troubling.

  64. Re: RMinNC // July 26, 2010 at 11:02 am

    There is no justice in America today…our country is in a free fall and it seems like nothing can be done to avoid a total collapse and the anarchy that will follow.

    What the obama obots don’t seem to grasp is the fact that this collapse will effect EVERYONE (except George Soros) who will be long gone and in hiding with all of America’s money.

    ####

    The Article Links I Have Posted Here Today Outline Some Excellent Ideas & Excellent Suggestions That We The People Can Do To STOP The Free Fall Of Our Nation Into Tyranny. THERE IS SO MUCH WE CAN DO!! That Is Exactly Why I Am Posting The links Here!!

    Please DO NOT for one second think there is NOTHING we can do to change the outcome!! Satan, the devil wants people to believe this lie!

    We Have GOD WITH US – LORD JESUS CHRIST – EMMANUEL – GOD THE SON, Standing With Us – As Christian Servants of GOD – WHEN We Live Our Christian
    Faith In GOD On Earth, & When We Have Daily Prayers (Communication) To GOD That ALL Of US CAN & MUST Be Praying To GOD DAILY IN.

    We Can Daily Have Faith In GOD, & We Can Perform & Live Our Daily Loving & Virtuous Works Every Day & Every Night In All That We Do!

    The Articles Here List Some Excellent Ideas & Ways We Can Utilize To Stop & Change The Free-Fall Our Country Is Going In.

    I advocate Using ALL Of The Excellent Ideas & Suggestions Of Many Patriots With Daily Prayers To GOD, PLUS & WITH Our Daily Reading Of The Holy Bible & With OUR DAILY LIVING The Holy Bible Forever Words Of GOD On Earth As We Walk On Earth With GOD In Faith In God & As We Perform Daily Actions Of Virtuous Love On Earth Following God On Earth.

    From:

    http://usapatriotsshoutinfoservice.wordpress.com/2010/01/31/how-to-become-an-undergroud-ppublilsher/

    “HOW TO BECOME AN UNDERGROUND PUBLISHER – JANUARY 31, 2010″

    By: USAPatriots-Shout

    # # # #

    “Calling All Patriots–Stop the Treason Campaign” ©2010 drkate, July 22, 2010

    http://drkatesview.wordpress.com/2010/07/22/calling-all-patriots-stop-the-treason-campaign/

    # # # #

    There Are Many Excellent Ideas And Ways To Stop & Change The Free-Fall Our Country Is In. I advocate Using ALL Of The Excellent Ideas & Suggestions Of Many Patriots That We Can Use Together To STOP The Overthrow Of The USA Government In Peace & In Faith In GOD!

    Imagine If Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. Said, “Oh Hell, Look At ALL Of The Prejudice & Evil Sh** We Have To Take & Go Through & Suffer Each Day!! There Is NO USE Trying!! We People Are In A Free Fall….!! With No Room To Escape!! We Can’t Get Any Better!!”

    GOD ALWAYS MAKES AN ESCAPE FOR HIS SERVANTS THAT SERVE HIM & WHO ARE FAITHFUL & TRUE TO GOD.
    THE HOLY BIBLE SAYS THIS OVER & OVER AGAIN!!

    That is why I am saying: ALL PEOPLE EVERYWHERE WHO CAN READ,
    PICK UP & READ THE HOLY BIBLE -THAT CONTAINS THE FOREVER LIVING WORDS OF ALMIGHTY FOREVER LIVING GOD ON EARTH IN IT FOR US, TRULY.

    ONLY By Reading Or Hearing The Holy Bible – THE FOREVER LIVING WORDS
    OF GOD IN THE HOLY BIBLE ON EARTH, Is Truly ONLY HOW Anyone Can Get To Know GOD & How You & I Can Have ANY Knowledge & ANY Faith
    In GOD, Do You See Now?! THE HOLY BIBLE SAYS: WITHOUT KNOWING GOD & WITHOUT HAVING FAITH IN GOD – YOU CAN’T PLEASE GOD WHATSOEVER!!

    AND THE HOLY BIBLE SAYS: THE KNOWLEDGE OF GOD & THE FAITH IN GOD ONLY COMES IN & BY & THROUGH HEARING & READING & LEARNING & STUDYING THE FOREVER WORDS OF GOD -& THE FOREVER LIVING ALWAYS FAITHFUL & ALWAYS TRUE FOREVER LIVING PROMISES OF GOD TO ALL HUMANITY THAT ARE WRITTEN IN THE HOLY BIBLE!!

    Therefore, Without You & I Reading & Studying & Learning The Holy Bible, YOU & I CAN NOT & WILL NOT KNOW GOD AT ALL TRULY. ALSO, GOD ALMIGHTY SAYS & PUTS HUNDREDS & HUNDREDS Of GOD’S FOREVER LIVING PROMISES To Humanity In The Holy Bible That Give To People Who Read & Study & Learn The FOREVER LIVING PROMISES OF GOD IN THE HOLY BIBLE – Clear Direction How To Love & How To Have Hope & Love & Faith On Earth & How To Trust In GOD On Earth Through ALL THINGS In The Darkness Of This World & As GOD’S FOREVER LIVING WORDS & PROMISES OF GOD TO HUMANITY THAT ARE
    IN THE HOLY BIBLE ARE – ALWAYS FAITHFUL & ALWAYS TRUE PROMISES OF GOD, THAT HUMANITY CAN HAVE NOW & ALL THROUGH ETERNITY…. AND THE FOREVER WORDS OF GOD IN THE HOLY BIBLE Says:

    Whosoever Has The FOREVER LIVING WORDS OF GOD On Earth In The Holy Bible, and Daily Puts Into Practice & Lives Words Of Lord Jesus Christ In the Holy Bible, GOD WILL GIVE THE LIGHT OF LIFE TO, and GOD WILL GIVE GOD’S FOREVER TO OVERCOME ALL EVIL ON EARTH As GOD Says GOD Will Walk With US On Earth When We Read GOD’S Words In THE HOLY BIBLE, & When We Obey GOD & Trust In GOD’S WORDS In The Holy Bible.

    SO, THE DIVINE FOREVER LIVING LOVE OF GOD’S FOREVER LIVING PROMISES OF THE FOREVER LIVING GOD Is Given To Us In This World, In The Holy Bible….

    I CAN’T STATE ENOUGH HOW COMPLETELY IMPORTANT THIS IS FOR PEOPLE’S ETERNITIES & FOR OUR ETERNAL IMMORTAL SOULS IN ETERNITIES, THAT WE READ THE HOLY BIBLE, & STUDIED IT, AND LEARNED THE HOLY BIBLE ON EARTH, & THAT WE TRULY & REALLY KNEW & LIVED & OBEYED THE WORDS OF GOD IN THE HOLY BIBLE!! WHILE WE ARE IN FRONT OF GOD’S THRONE IN HEAVEN FOREVER LIFE!

    There Is Nothing MORE IMPORTANT FOR People To DO Than To Truly Seize The Forever Words Of GOD In The Holy Bible, Because THE WORDS OD GOD IN THE HOLY BIBLE ARE FOREVER LIFE!
    And When We Read The Forever Words Of GOD In The Holy Bible, & Study & Learn Them, & Trust Them, & When We Actually Live & Put Them Into Practice Daily By Actually Living The Forever Words Of God In The Holy Bible – GOD Promises To Walk On Earth With US Being Our Guide & Our Father & Our Loving Leader & Our Protector!!

  65. Time for a little humor….In light of this new Obamacareless and all the docs leaving their profession, I thought this was relevant:

    THE GYNECOLOGIST WHO BECAME A MECHANIC

    A gynecologist had become fed up with malpractice insurance and HMO
    paperwork, and was burned out. Hoping to try another career where skillful
    hands would be beneficial, he decided to become a mechanic.

    He went to the local technical college, signed up for evening classes,
    attended diligently, and learned all he could. When the time of the
    practical exam approached, the gynecologist prepared carefully for weeks,
    and completed the exam with tremendous skill.

    When theresults came back, he was surprised to find that he had obtained a
    score of 150%. Fearing an error, he called the Instructor, saying, “I don’t
    want to appear ungrateful for such an outstanding result, but I wonder if
    there is an error in the grade?” “The instructor said, “During the exam,
    you took the engine apart perfectly, which was worth 50% of the total mark.
    You put the engine back together again perfectly, which is also worth 50% of
    the mark.” …………… After a pause, the instructor added, “I gave
    you an extra 50% because you did it all through the muffler,which I’ve never
    seen done in my entire career”.

  66. Another FINAL STRAW

    “White House backed release of Lockerbie bomber Abdel Baset al-Megrahi”

    THE US government secretly advised Scottish ministers it would be “far preferable” to free the Lockerbie bomber than jail him in Libya.

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/white-house-backed-release-of-lockerbie-bomber-abdel-baset-al-megrahi/story-e6frg6so-1225896741041

  67. Jacqlyn
    Cabby – AZ
    ms. helga
    **************
    Thanks to all of you. You’ve helped me out here and I appreciate that, and Helga – you’re a riot.

  68. Jacqlyn Smith

    #

    DABIG // July 26, 2010 at 1:50 pm

    Jacqlyn Smith // July 26, 2010 at 1:36 pm

    Hi DABIG…..just cuz Agnew may have skirted the Constitution doesn’t make it right…..so did Chester Arthur…..that tells me the system of certifying these folks is broken……well….NO….the WHOLE SYSTEM IS BROKEN AND CORRUPT…..America…..stand up and be heard or be enslaved!!!
    ****************
    Agreed Jacqlyn, however when you look at the entry of Theodore Spiros Agnew (Spiro T’s Father)
    it does clearly state “Al” meaning Alien not Naturalized. They’re claiming double standard.
    We all know two wrong don’t make it right, but they
    do make a point in their “double standard” claim.
    I have also heard repeated several times here and on other blogs/radio; “Natural Born status ONLY applies to POTUS not VP. Well, the 12th Amendment says it isn’t so. Troubling.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    The real question is……how did he slip through the checks and balances…..who certified that he was a “natural born” citizen….the only way they can do that is with a lawful long form birth certificate!

  69. >>>>DABIG // July 26, 2010 at 1:08 pm
    Anyone care to comment?
    Just putting this out there, the latest argument, involving the 12th Amendment, obots are using:
    “Spiro Theodore Agnew, born 1918, was the 39th Vice-President of the United States, serving under Richard Nixon from 1969 to 1973.
    As one might guess from his name, Agnew was of Greek heritage. His father was Theodore Spiros Agnew (formerly Anagnostopoulos), who immigrated to the United States from Greece in 1897.
    And like Barack Obama, Agnew’s father was not a U.S. citizen when Agnew was born. To evidence this, I offer the Agnew family’s entry in the 1920 U.S. Census (see lines 72-75), where just three lines above the entry for one-year-old Spiro Agnew, Theodore Agnew’s citizenship is clearly listed as “Alien”:”
    http://barackryphal.blogspot.com/2010/01/spiro-agnew.html<<<<&lt;

    ROFLOL. The obots are comparing Obama and Spiro Agnew. Yep, we should go there. Spiro Agnew, resigned from a corrupt Nixon Adminstration prior to investigations for "high crimes and misdemeanors".

    I guess I see what the Obots are really trying to say is they are now comparing Obama to Nixon and Agnew!!! ROFLOL. Corruption Corruption Corruption.

    Pete

  70. I tried to fix my typos….. here, sorry….

    Whosoever Has The FOREVER LIVING WORDS OF GOD On Earth In The Holy Bible, and Daily Puts Into Practice & Lives Words Of Lord Jesus Christ In the Holy Bible, GOD WILL GIVE THE LIGHT OF LIFE TO, and GOD WILL GIVE GOD’S FOREVER GRACES & HOLY SPIRIT POWER TO OVERCOME EVIL ON EARTH, As GOD Says GOD Will Walk With US On Earth When We Read GOD’S Words In THE HOLY BIBLE, & When We Obey GOD & Trust In GOD’S WORDS In The Holy Bible.

    SO, THE DIVINE FOREVER LIVING LOVE OF GOD IS GIVEN TO US ON EARTH THROUGH THE FOREVER LIVING PROMISES OF GOD IN THE HOLY BIBLE In This World….

    I CAN’T STATE ENOUGH HOW COMPLETELY IMPORTANT THIS IS FOR PEOPLE’S ETERNITIES & FOR OUR ETERNAL IMMORTAL SOULS IN ETERNITIES, THAT WE READ THE HOLY BIBLE, & STUDY & LEARN THE HOLY BIBLE ON EARTH, & THAT WE TRULY & REALLY KNOW & LIVE & OBEY THE FOREVER WORDS OF GOD IN THE HOLY BIBLE!!

    BECAUSE IN ETERNITY, WHEN WE ARE STANDING IN FRONT OF GOD’S THRONE IN HEAVEN FOREVER LIFE THIS WILL BE THE MOST IMPORTANT THING THAT WE COULD HAVE DONE ON EARTH FOR OUR IMMORTAL SOULS & OUR ETERNITIES!

    There Is Nothing MORE IMPORTANT For People To DO ON EARTH Than To Truly Seize The Day & Read & Learn & Study & Obey & TRULY LIVE DAILY & Truly Put Into Practice On Earth 24/7/365 & The FOREVER LIVING WORDS OF GOD In The Holy Bible.

    Why? Because THE WORDS OF GOD IN THE HOLY BIBLE ARE FOREVER LIFE TO US! And When We Read The Forever Words Of GOD In The Holy Bible, & Wehn We Study & Learn The Words Of GOD In The Holy Bible, We Can Trust The Forever Words Of GOD, and Therefore Trust In GOD!

    And When We Actually Live & Put Into Practice On Earth The Forever Words Of God In The Holy Bible – GOD Promises To Walk On Earth With US Being Our Our Guide & Our Father & Our Loving Leader & Our Protector & Our Savior!!

    THERE IS NO LIFE ON EARTH OR IN ETERNITY OUTSIDE OF THE FOREVER LIVING CREATOR, GOD ALMIGHTY, THE MOST HOLY TRINITY. AND THERE IS ONLY ONE WAY TO GET TO GOD ALMIGHTY THE MOST HOLY TRINITY, & TO HEAVEN FOREVER LIFE IN ETERNITY….AND THAT ONE & ONLY WAY IS ONLY WITH, IN, BY & THROUGH LORD JESUS CHRIST, EMMANUEL, YESHUA, GOD THE SON, THE MESSIAH, THE SAVIOR OF HUMANITY!!, 100% TRULY!!

  71. Pete // July 26, 2010 at 2:17 pm

    ROFLOL. The obots are comparing Obama and Spiro Agnew. Yep, we should go there. Spiro Agnew, resigned from a corrupt Nixon Adminstration prior to investigations for “high crimes and misdemeanors”.

    I guess I see what the Obots are really trying to say is they are now comparing Obama to Nixon and Agnew!!! ROFLOL. Corruption Corruption Corruption.
    *********************
    Yes Pete, it’s HOT HOT HOT on the blogs and YouTube, they’re running with it, kind of cute isn’t it.
    Thanks.

  72. Free Speech // July 26, 2010 at 8:24 am

    LANDMARK LEGAL FOUNDATION

    “Can A President Be Indicted While in Office, Or Must He First Be Impeached?”

    Section 3. If, at the time fixed for the beginning of the term of the President, the President elect shall have died, the Vice President elect shall become President. If a President shall not have been chosen before the time fixed for the beginning of his term, or if the President elect shall have failed to qualify, then the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified; and the Congress may by law provide for the case wherein neither a President elect nor a Vice President elect shall have qualified, declaring who shall then act as President, or the manner in which one who is to act shall be selected, and such person shall act accordingly until a President or Vice President shall have qualified.

  73. Dabig – Best 2 liner of the year joke about the Usurper –

    Obama goes into a bar with a parrot on his shoulder.
    “Where did you get that?” asks the bartender.

    “In Africa – They are all over the place.”
    SAID THE PARROT

  74. DABIG,

    I guess my question would be why do the Soetoro supporters continue to try to find a person in past history that slipped through the cracks of not being a NBC and attmpt to use it today in positive light for Soetoro?

    Why do that as a stance when they claim he is a NBC and born in the U.S.?

    That makes no sence…..

    Alternatively, when Nixson ran for President, the vice president was chosen, not elected on a separate ticket as it once was. One could have certainly challenged Nixon to hand pick a different Vice and he simply would have. But the Vice, same as now, does not need votes or electorial counts to run on a ticket, only the President.

  75. “A Republican Senate candidate for Colorado apologized Monday for making disparaging remarks about tea party members who questioned the authenticity of President Barack Obama’s birth certificate.

    Ken Buck was caught on audio tape expressing his frustration with the so-called birthers, saying: “Will you tell those dumba—s at the tea party to stop asking questions about birth certificates while I’m on the camera?”

    Buck, a conservative supported by many tea party members, has said that he believes Obama is a natural-born citizen.

    Loftus said Buck regretted using the profanity and that he was frustrated with people asking him about the birth certificate, which takes away the focus from issues like the national debt and Obama’s health care reform.”

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/07/26/AR2010072602543.html

  76. DABIG

    >>>>WWI Registration Card 559 A2691
    Theodore Spiro Agnew
    226 W. Madison St.
    Baltimore City, Maryland
    Age 40 Birthdate Sept. 12, 1878
    Race White
    NATURALIZED U.S. CITIZEN
    Occupation Restaurant
    Margaret M. Agnew, wife (nearest relative)
    Registrar’s report
    Height medium
    Hair black
    Eyes black
    Build stout
    No disabilities
    DATE OF REGISTRATION: Sept. 12, 1918
    Read more: http://www.city-data.com/forum/politics-other-controversies/857501-eligibility-thread-159.html#ixzz0uoZprEaY<<<&lt;

    The obots lie, imagine that. Spiro Agnews father was a "NATURALIZED" US Citizen. That makes him born on US soil of US Parents. He is natural born then.

    Obama–father alien–never US Citizen, born BRITISH Natural Born SUBJECT at birth-via British law. The connection of Obama and Spiro Agnew between the criminal and corruption is spot on.

    Pete

  77. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    Pete // July 26, 2010 at 2:38 pm

    ==========================

    Thanks for that. I didn’t have time to research it again. But the whole Agnew thing was brought up a long long time ago – and debunked. I guess the Obots decided to have another go at it. But I think it all goes to prove that THEY KNOW. They are scrambling to find examples and precedents for his current condition.

  78. Free Speech

    Pete // July 26, 2010 at 2:17 pm

    … The obots are comparing Obama and Spiro Agnew. Yep, we should go there. Spiro Agnew, resigned from a corrupt Nixon Adminstration prior to investigations for “high crimes and misdemeanors”.

    I guess I see what the Obots are really trying to say is they are now comparing Obama to Nixon and Agnew!!! ROFLOL. Corruption Corruption Corruption.

    Pete
    **********************************

    Don’t be surprised if AG Holder gets bo indicted in a DC Federal Court very soon.

  79. ATTENTION….. Jonah

    I hear that Roy Blunt is 6 points ahead of Carnahan. Is this true? We have 9 republicans running in the primary! I am focused on Roy Blunt,
    Hector Maldonado, and Chuck Purgason. The others I do not know anything about. Would you want to give me your best shot of who can beat Carnahan in November? I hear that Chuck Purgason is backed by the Tea Party!

    I have not seen Jonah on for a little while… can someone tell her I left her a question? thanks

  80. SirWilliam // July 26, 2010 at 2:27 pm

    Very good points, SirWilliam, I thank you.

    *************************************

    Pete // July 26, 2010 at 2:38 pm

    Nice find Pete, yes imagine that, lies.
    You guys are the best, I truly thank you. Big, big help here!

    ms. helga – you’re still a riot, thanks for the joke!

  81. Pete // July 26, 2010 at 2:38 pm

    Pete, with your find it clearly shows another attempt at “changing history” through possible fraud/forgery of a Census document.

  82. Free Speech

    Sam Sewell // July 26, 2010 at 2:23 pm

    I think I see the story unfolding.

    bo resigns. Biden becomes POTUS chooses Hillary as VP. Biden pardons bo and resigns as POTUS for health reasons.

  83. Philo-Publius

    Majority of Small Business Sector Facing Higher Taxes Under Obama Plan
    http://www.atr.org/smallbusiness.html?content=5247

    We knew this was coming. BHO needs to complete his destruction of the entire economy.

  84. Philo-Publius

    Jesse Jackson Wants Black National Anthem

    http://www.thefoxnation.com/culture/2010/07/25/jesse-jackson-wants-black-national-anthem

    The one we have now must be racist.

  85. BP chief executive Tony Hayward will get an immediate annual pension worth about £600,000 ($930,000) when he leaves in October, the BBC has learned.

    Mr Hayward is to stand down after sustained criticism of his handling of the Gulf of Mexico oil leak.

    However, a BP source said he would be nominated for a non-executive position at the firm’s Russian joint venture.

    BBC business editor Robert Peston said that the pension entitlement was “bound to be hugely controversial”.
    (Excerpt)
    more:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-10434908

  86. If Jessee Jackson wants a black National Anthem then I suggest he move to Africa where the majority of people are black.

    Jackson and other “civil rights” activist have been living off the sweat and toil of the black people for decades and their actions have prevented the black people from blending into main stream America.

    Jackson’s plan is to continue dividing the black and white races so he can continue living his high rolling life style.

    Jackson and his buddy, Al Sharpeton are from the same mold. Maybe one day the black people will wake up and see these two birds for exactly what they are. FREE LOADERS.

  87. Free Speech – 2:56 PM
    “Don’t be surprised if AG Holder gets bo indicted in a DC Federal Court very soon.”
    *************************
    FS – Those are bombshell words! Do you know something that we don’t? Wow!

  88. ms. helga // July 26, 2010 at 2:25 pm

    Dabig – Best 2 liner of the year joke about the Usurper –

    Obama goes into a bar with a parrot on his shoulder.
    “Where did you get that?” asks the bartender.

    “In Africa – They are all over the place.”
    SAID THE PARROT
    ******************************
    Love it! Short and sweet! This is one joke I can remember.

  89. Thanks Pete,

    I was having to refresh my history and look up the naturalization date of his father.

    You answered it correctly. His father was indeed a naturalized citizen under the 14th admendment and became such on Sept. 1918. 2 months LATER, his son was born, Spiro Agnew, thus making Spiro the first generation NBC from his fathers side.

    There is your answer and facts DABIG.

    Rest asure, you will not need to join the RAP Cult to resolve your delima.

    The determining factor is the date of naturalization and the date of birth for the child, in this case

  90. Free Speech // July 26, 2010 at 3:10 pm

    Sam Sewell // July 26, 2010 at 2:23 pm

    I think I see the story unfolding.

    bo resigns. Biden becomes POTUS chooses Hillary as VP. Biden pardons bo and resigns as POTUS for health reasons.
    *****************************
    FS, are you on a roll today, or what? (could happen)

  91. #

    Citizen Carlyle (FUBO) // July 26, 2010 at 2:54 pm

    Pete // July 26, 2010 at 2:38 pm

    ==========================

    Thanks for that. I didn’t have time to research it again. But the whole Agnew thing was brought up a long long time ago – and debunked. I guess the Obots decided to have another go at it. But I think it all goes to prove that THEY KNOW. They are scrambling to find examples and precedents for his current condition.
    ********************************
    It’s called the circle j*rk recycle game, and this I fell for it, thanks to you guys I had some ammo. You’re right, “THEY KNOW”.

  92. Even better Cabby,

    Bo is busted and exposed, Biden attempts to stand in but realizes he was on a fraud ticket and therefore eneligible himself. Hillary takes seat as temp. President and give payback to bo and does not Pardon him, leaving him in jail.

    Hubby fisrt husband makes annoncement, ” I never said he was a NBC”, and “I never, never touched on him that way”.

  93. Sir William: I believe Nancy Pelosi is third in line. She should be busted with him.

  94. SirWilliam // July 26, 2010 at 3:49 pm

    LOL, thanks, William.

  95. Zach,

    You are correct, Nancy would be in line.

    But within the first week, she would kick over due to power overload, found shaking and frothing at the mouth. First, the paramedics thought rabies only later not to be able to save her as brain hemorraging of power overwhelmed her bodies vital functions.

    Then Hilary steps in, and now first hubby steps in and claims “I had nothing to with her getting too excited”..

  96. Free Speech

    Cabby – AZ // July 26, 2010 at 3:44 pm

    Free Speech – 2:56 PM
    “Don’t be surprised if AG Holder gets bo indicted in a DC Federal Court very soon.”

    *************************
    FS – Those are bombshell words! Do you know something that we don’t? Wow!

    Free Speech // July 26, 2010 at 3:10 pm

    Sam Sewell // July 26, 2010 at 2:23 pm

    I think I see the story unfolding.

    bo resigns. Biden becomes POTUS chooses Hillary as VP. Biden pardons bo and resigns as POTUS for health reasons.
    *****************************
    FS, are you on a roll today, or what? (could happen)
    **************************************

    It’s nothing new, Cabby. I have been writing about the bo endgame of a DC Fed court indictment as a means of escaping punishment for his crimes since 3/09 when certain lawyers starting pushing Fed Grand Jury Indictments (?) and Quo Warranto prosecuted by holder (?). It was not hard to figure out that bo’s co-conspirators had the endgame plan to get bo tried and acquitted in DC Federal Court, just like Mayor Marion Barry was acquitted in DC court, despite the fact that the DC jurors had seen videos of Barry committing the crimes.

    See how the dept of injustice “prosecuted” blago?

    Don’t you know it will be even easier for the dept of injustice to get bo acquitted in DC? .

  97. Sir William – 4:09 PM
    “Hubby fisrt husband makes annoncement, ” I never said he was a NBC”, and “I never, never touched on him that way”. ”
    *******************************
    Never underestimate the power of the Clintons.

  98. Free Speech – 4:32 PM
    “Don’t you know it will be even easier for the dept of injustice to get bo acquitted in DC? ”
    ********************************
    OK, I get it! The key word here is “acquittal”.
    What a miscarriage of justice!

  99. Free Speech

    zachjonesishome // July 26, 2010 at 4:17 pm

    Pelosi is a MORON! She was setup with the two certifications for bo that she signed. If she tries to press to be biden’s vp she will be indicted in a New York second.

  100. Free Speech

    Cabby – AZ // July 26, 2010 at 4:37 pm

    Free Speech – 4:32 PM
    “Don’t you know it will be even easier for the dept of injustice to get bo acquitted in DC? ”
    ********************************
    OK, I get it! The key word here is “acquittal”.
    What a miscarriage of justice!
    *************************************
    Yes, once acquitted, Cabby, 5th amendment double jeopardy immunity kicks in for bo, at least, in fed court, but hopefully State Court Grand Jurors won’t let bo get away with his crimes. I don’t think bo will do so well in a Trial in Grand Isle, LA or Pensacola, FL.

  101. Attention all my friends – One of the greatest movies I ever saw, directed by John Ford is on Turner Classic Movies (TCM) tonight at 8:00PM Eastern Time. “How The West Was Won”

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0056085/

    I swear I don’t work for TCM. Their older movies make me weep for the America that was.

  102. Freespeech,

    Pelosi a “MORON”???

    You are being too polite…

  103. @William,

    I like that comment “I never touched him that way”…. but have you seen the pictures of Bo smiling in Bill’s face? ROFL…. it sure looks like it was Bill who did the bj!!

  104. @Free Speech, the Senate will be the ones to confirm or choose the VP.

    I am still a bit hazy on what happened with Agnew (cannot remember why he resigned – and yes it was big news in Australia) but Gerald Ford was the man chosen to take Agnew’s place. It had nothing to do with the Speaker of the House… and Pelosi will not get the nod.

  105. Free Speech

    Didn’t want to chime in when the obots floated the Nixon/Agnew BS, but U gotta know that bo is in DEEP-THROAT-TROUBLE, when the best defense his DUMB lawyers can come up with is Tricky-Dick & Spiro were CROOKS too.

  106. @William,

    since there is no real line of succession, that would only apply if Biden and Bo were knocked out at the same time. If Biden resigned first then a new VP would be chosen from the Senate, and it would not automatically fall to fancy pants in the House. I am using the example of Gerald Ford.

    Besides I think that fancy nancy would have a heart attack 🙂

  107. Actually Tricky Dicky was not a crook. There was a cover up about a break-in but Tricky Dicky did nothing that was criminal.

    The same cannot be said about Bill Clinton.

  108. Free Speech

    Aussie // July 26, 2010 at 4:55 pm

    During his fifth year as Vice President, in the late summer of 1973, Agnew was under investigation by the United States Attorney’s office in Baltimore, Maryland, on charges of extortion, tax fraud, bribery and conspiracy. In October, he was formally charged with having accepted bribes totaling more than $100,000, while holding office as Baltimore County Executive, Governor of Maryland, and Vice President of the United States. On October 10, 1973, Agnew was allowed to plead no contest to a single charge that he had failed to report $29,500 of income received in 1967, with the condition that he resign the office of Vice President.

  109. The Demorats are continuing their quest ti demoralize our nation. The wikileaks drop of documents is no accident.

  110. Free Speech

    Aussie // July 26, 2010 at 5:00 pm

    President Nixon committed serious crimes violating the Constitutional Rights of many Americans. He had an enemies list which included John Lennon, simply because Lennon protested the War in Viet Nam.

    bo makes President Nixon look like a boy scout, but Nixon did commit crimes nonetheless. Although Nixon was pardoned. His Attorney General John Mitchell went to prison as did others in his adminstration.

    I wonder what John Lennon would have said if he had lived to see paul mccartney singing

  111. #

    ms. helga // July 26, 2010 at 4:46 pm

    Attention all my friends – One of the greatest movies I ever saw, directed by John Ford is on Turner Classic Movies (TCM) tonight at 8:00PM Eastern Time. “How The West Was Won”

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0056085/

    I swear I don’t work for TCM. Their older movies make me weep for the America that was.
    *******************
    Thanks for the tip ms.helga, just started getting into the TCM channel (no commercials!). It must have been great to live in the 20’s-40’s, or it seems that way from the movies. I remember (I’m 36) my Great Grandparents telling stories about “back in the day” sounded like great fun. Watching those movies gives me a better perspective, but I do notice they had alot of the same concerns as we do now. I’ll have to tune in.

  112. Aussie,

    LOL, yes I have. And notice the photo shots are always waist above? Makes you wonder if they believe they are on the basketball court patting each other on the the bottom for a well deserved play.

    Of course, Clinton running off to the UK to avoid military draft in the US, I doubt he got a good “feel” for rugby. In that sport, he would have returned back to the US with a few missing teeth with such attempts.

  113. Free Speech

    Aussie // July 26, 2010 at 5:00 pm

    I wonder what John Lennon would have said if he had lived to see paul mccartney singing bo’s praises in the White House. “Hey Jude,” how sickening!

  114. Free Speech

    Aussie // July 26, 2010 at 5:00 pm

    It appears that President Clinton lied under oath, and that is very troubling to me as a Lawyer, but he was never prosecuted for perjury in criminal court.

    He was impeached by the House, but acquitted by the Senate.

  115. Aussie,

    As for the line of succession once the fraud is exposed, well that is a matter currently disputed by many legal scholars.

    I will attempt to answer that after awhile. In the meantime, I’m off to cook dinner.

  116. Aussie,

    As for the line of succession once the fraud is exposed, well that is a matter currently disputed by many legal scholars.

    I will attempt to answer that after awhile. In the meantime, I’m off to cook dinner.

  117. LindaNY @ 10:10 am
    Linda-I don’t know where you got that cartoon from, but Thank you. Hilarious.

  118. (video) Sharpton Responds to Rangel Investigation

  119. Marty Didier

    Jacqlyn Smith // July 26, 2010 at 1:27 pm
    He was trafficking drugs and money laundering….I’m sure Marty Dider knows lots about Barry’s escapades!
    ======
    Hi Jacqlyn! Actually the subject isn’t about Barry but who else is using this neat little trick of playing around with SS#’s. It seems purvasive as Orly told me after reading some of my posts that she found more than 130 properties with different SS#’s that strongly looked as thought they belonged to Obama. Realize that the trading of property with this group acts like payment. Next, the FBI busted a ID Ring in Chicago run by the father of a Congressman. At this time of writing I don’t recall the exact names but I would be assured they were playing with SS#’s too.

    Not to change the focus of this subject but to enlarge the understanding of how “uncontrolled” our systems of registration and whatnot are read Daniel Hopsicker’s Madcow Morning news
    http://www.madcowprod.com/ and look mainly at how out of control the airplane registration system is with the FAA. The FAA looks complegtely corrpt and in bed with the criminals too but what they are doing is copied throughout the entire criminal system who are using planes to distribute drugs world wide. It has really been the other countries who seem more up to date with doing the right thing to catch the irregularities the FAA is trying to pass off to all of us.

    So the problem isn’t only about Barry but mainly how Barry is inbed with the other criminals and using all of these neat tricks to get out of being traced in many of our registration systems.

    Marty Didier
    Northbrook, IL

  120. Free Speech 4:45 PM
    “Yes, once acquitted, Cabby, 5th amendment double jeopardy immunity kicks in for bo, at least, in fed court, but hopefully State Court Grand Jurors won’t let bo get away with his crimes. I don’t think bo will do so well in a Trial in Grand Isle, LA or Pensacola, FL.”
    *******************************
    Oh, yes, the double jeopardy protection! If he were acquitted in federal court, wouldn’t that prevent charges being filed in any court – state or county – for the same crime(s)? However, aren’t there going to be enough various crimes to “go around”?

    FS, I recently read that there was an opinion rendered re. double jeopardy in the case of an impeachment attempt. I don’t remember where I read it, but the judge’s opinion was that double jeopardy doesn’t apply in the case of impeachment because that is not a criminal proceeding. (I’ve got it somewhere on the computer)

  121. #

    bob strauss // July 25, 2010 at 12:34 am

    #

    Cabby – AZ // July 25, 2010 at 12:09 am

    LM – 12:06 AM
    Drastic change in works to revamp whole Electoral College.
    ***************************************
    We must resist this with every fiber of our being.
    *******************************************

    Cabby-AZ, It would take a Constitutional Amendment, ratified by 2/3rds of the States, to change the Constitution to eliminate the electoral college system.

    The honeymoon is over for this usurper, no one is going to make it easy for him to get re-elected. Instead they may just show him the door.
    **************************************
    bob strauss and Everyone,

    No, this was the whole point of alerting you to this National Popular Vote Initiative that has already gotten state legislatures to change the law regarding Electors in their states! John Koza, whom I describe as the D fairy godfather – he made his money inventing the lottery scratch ticket – began in 2006 to try to get around the Constitutional role of Electors. And he did this not by getting rid of Electors, since as you correctly point out, this would require a Constitutional amendment. No; he was much cleverer in his design. Instead, his plan will maintain state Electors but, it will compel them to vote for the popular winner of other states! In other words, your state Electors, chosen by your state; would effectively be carrying out the bidding of other states.

    You really should read my article. BO could win in 2012, even if his name is not on all state ballots! And he could do it if you don’t know all about the role of the Electors! (I keep warning you, if you don’t know as much about our political process as those who would use their superior knowledge to steal your power; they will continue to steal your power!)

    http://jbjd.wordpress.com/2010/07/24/npvi-by-hook-and-by-crook/

  122. Freespeech,

    Clinton lying uder oath is enough to impeach. The first in history to be impeach by the house. Yes, the senate stalled as their excuse was to spare the US embarisment as his term was almost over.

    But one can easily look up “Clintongate” which includes Bill and Hilary both and the well over criminal activity and illegal acts combined is astronomical.

    Monica was the least of his impeachable crimes, same as Hillary.

  123. Freespeech,

    Clinton lying uder oath is enough to impeach. The first in history to be impeach by the house. Yes, the senate stalled as their excuse was to spare the US embarisment as his term was almost over.

    But one can easily look up “Clintongate” which includes Bill and Hilary both and the well over criminal activity and illegal acts combined is astronomical.

    Monica was the least of his impeachable crimes, same as Hillary.

  124. Marty Didier …..your about a 5 1/2 hour drive away from me… can we meet 1/2 way and talk?…

  125. There is absolutely no one in politics that deserves the honor of being the President of the United States….corrupt all of them… look at their bank accounts…….What happened to the Country our Fathers and Grandfathers faught for?

  126. Free Speech

    Cabby – AZ // July 26, 2010 at 6:05 pm

    Free Speech 4:45 PM
    “Yes, once acquitted, Cabby, 5th amendment double jeopardy immunity kicks in for bo, at least, in fed court, but hopefully State Court Grand Jurors won’t let bo get away with his crimes. I don’t think bo will do so well in a Trial in Grand Isle, LA or Pensacola, FL.”
    *******************************
    Oh, yes, the double jeopardy protection! If he were acquitted in federal court, wouldn’t that prevent charges being filed in any court – state or county – for the same crime(s)?

    TECHNICALLY YES, BUT DEFENDANTS HAVE BEEN PROSECUTED IN FED COURT AFTER ACQUITTAL IN STATE COURT ON ESSENTIALLY THE SAME CRIMES. I DON’T KNOW OF ANY CASES WHERE A DEFENDANT HAS BEEN PROSECUTED IN STATE COURT AFTER ACQUITTAL IN FED COURT.

    However, aren’t there going to be enough various crimes to “go around”?

    YES bo & CO-CONSPIRATORS COMMITTED IDENTITY THEFT AND VOTER FRAUD CRIMES ALL ACROSS THE NATION.

    FS, I recently read that there was an opinion rendered re. double jeopardy in the case of an impeachment attempt. I don’t remember where I read it, but the judge’s opinion was that double jeopardy doesn’t apply in the case of impeachment because that is not a criminal proceeding. (I’ve got it somewhere on the computer)

    I AGREE WITH THAT OPINION. bo CAN BE PROSECUTED CRIMINALLY IN COURTS ALL ACROSS THE NATION AFTER IMPEACHMENT.

  127. Free Speech

    SirWilliam // July 26, 2010 at 6:29 pm

    Freespeech,

    Clinton lying uder oath is enough to impeach. The first in history to be impeach by the house. Yes, the senate stalled as their excuse was to spare the US embarisment as his term was almost over.

    But one can easily look up “Clintongate” which includes Bill and Hilary both and the well over criminal activity and illegal acts combined is astronomical.

    Monica was the least of his impeachable crimes, same as Hillary.
    ********************************

    SW, All I know is that I was not concerned about my life, liberty and livelihood being threatened by Presidents Reagan, Bush I & II, & Clinton.

    bo is a grave THREAT to everyone the Planet, a much greater threat than ossama bin laden, achmedinejad or kim jong il.

  128. Free Speech

    jbjd // July 26, 2010 at 6:23 pm

  129. @FS, thanks for refreshing my memory regarding good old Tricky Dicky and Spiro.

    From the little bit I did read elsewhere it seems that Agnew was a naughty boy when he was governor in Maryland…. he made it easy by pleading no contest.

    Tricky Dicky is another matter. I had forgotten about his list… maybe it did not get much attention in Australia… but I can assure you that the whole thing did get a lot of attention. Nixon went off the boil because he was afraid of losing his power. In lots of ways it was a real shame that his Presidency ended that way. I do understand why John Lennon would have been on the enemies list, especially when he teamed up with that Japanese woman (witch)…. Lennon was truly nothing more than a drug addict. In fact Lennon probably would have been licking at the Bo’s …….(please insert what is in your imagination) if he had been alive today… Lennon was a Marxist.

  130. 68Truthseeker

    Maj. Gen.Jerry R Curry (Ret.) Speaks Out On The Obama Eligibility Issue

  131. @ William,

    the “dalliance” with Monica was not the crime. The perjury was the crime. He lied under oath, just like B.O. (meaning body odour) lied under oath when he took the oath of office.

    The crimes of Bo are being detailed daily. The

  132. Free Speech

    Aussie // July 26, 2010 at 7:03 pm

    @FS, thanks for refreshing my memory regarding good old Tricky Dicky and Spiro.

    From the little bit I did read elsewhere it seems that Agnew was a naughty boy when he was governor in Maryland…. he made it easy by pleading no contest.

    Tricky Dicky is another matter. I had forgotten about his list… maybe it did not get much attention in Australia… but I can assure you that the whole thing did get a lot of attention. Nixon went off the boil because he was afraid of losing his power. In lots of ways it was a real shame that his Presidency ended that way.
    ******************************
    U R welcome.

    I agree about President Nixon. He did some good things. Ended Viet Nam War. Opened trade relations with China. And in the end he did the right thing for our Country and resigned. Compare him to bo.

  133. Aussie // July 26, 2010 at 7:03 pm
    “Lennon was truly nothing more than a drug addict. In fact Lennon probably would have been licking at the Bo’s …….(please insert what is in your imagination) if he had been alive today… Lennon was a Marxist”
    ****************
    I don’t know about that Aussie, don’t believe everything you’ve been told or heard on the tele.
    Are you aware the actual shooter, Mark David Chapman doesn’t remember the actual incident?
    (another possible mind-control victim). There are several credible people who suspect this including Ted Gunderson (ex-Head Western Div. FBI whistle-blower) who claims Lennon was on the list due to his tell all lyrics. There’s an interesting article here if you care to read more:

    http://www.jfkmontreal.com/john_lennon/Usenet/Perdomo.htm

  134. jbjd // July 26, 2010 at 6:23 pm

    jbjd, great article and sources, thanks.

  135. #

    DABIG // July 26, 2010 at 7:37 pm

    jbjd // July 26, 2010 at 6:23 pm

    jbjd, great article and sources, thanks.
    **********************************
    You are welcome. This one almost slipped right past me. The thing that really hit me was the launch date of the effort: 2006. Interesting, huh.

  136. jbjd // July 26, 2010 at 7:29 pm

    Have you been Hectorized? It’s o.k. to admit it. You’ve come up with some good stuff in the past and I know that you aren’t an Obot. A Democrat, but not an Obot.

  137. Free Speech

    jbjd // July 26, 2010 at 8:00 pm

    U owe the Honorable Hector Maldonado an apology for the LIES U told about him.

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  139. jbjd // July 26, 2010 at 8:00 pm

    You are welcome. This one almost slipped right past me. The thing that really hit me was the launch date of the effort: 2006. Interesting, huh.
    **************************
    True, wonder why it hadn’t gotten any legs though.
    **************************
    FreeSpeech, come on now.

  140. DABIG // July 26, 2010 at 8:33 pm

    jbjd // July 26, 2010 at 8:00 pm

    You are welcome. This one almost slipped right past me. The thing that really hit me was the launch date of the effort: 2006. Interesting, huh.
    **************************
    True, wonder why it hadn’t gotten any legs though.
    **************************

    DABIG, I think this story is not getting legs because people mistakenly think, ‘But you cannot change the function of Electors without a Constitutional amendment.’ These marketing people were very clever. In fact, you ARE changing the function of the Electors, w/o a Constitutional amendment! Bad news. This means, just because you challenge BO’s name on the ballot in one state which requires only eligible candidates may get on the ballot; this does not mean, he won’t win in another state with a larger population. And your Electors, if your state Legislature joined the Compact; will still have to vote for him! Really clever; and nasty.
    http://jbjd.wordpress.com/2010/07/24/npvi-by-hook-and-by-crook/

  141. jbjd // July 26, 2010 at 8:58 pm

    Another article in agreement with you, jbjd:

    “If one studies the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, it becomes clear that the Framers wanted a republic, not a democracy, but they wanted the republic to be guided by grass roots participation at the state level. The Framers wanted the People of each state to choose their state representatives by popular elections, although even this is not explicitly asserted in the Constitution or any existing amendments thereof; however, the Framers gave tremendous power to the States in an obvious effort to offset the power given to the centralized federal government. Bill of Rights Amendment 10 made the following important declaration regarding the powers of the States and People”
    (Excerpt)
    more:

    http://www.jfkmontreal.com/Election2004/Constitution.htm

  142. Remember my article, IDIOMS!>/a>, inspired by the hassle I got from the BO supporters on Politijab, when I insisted, in Texas, state party officials are just like public officials for the purpose of obtaining documents or ordering Mandamus? They swore I was wrong but, turns out, I was right! Well, seems they have come around, and are in my corner now. At least when it comes to Hector Maldonado.

    They had de-bunked his story of disparate treatment, by citing to the legal differences between MO laws for filing in the Presidential preference primary – up to party for validation – versus U.S. Senate primary. They even posted the actual laws; good for them. (Actually, on the video in which HM uses my moniker, he also mentions this difference in the candidate validation laws; however, for some reason, he still fails to withdraw his claims of disparate treatment against the SoS!) But Politijab had mentioned nothing about the difference between filing requirements for active duty military versus civilian. And recall from the article I wrote, what first brought me to check whether HM was active duty military was, it never made sense to me, the SoS would ask for verification months after he registered – unless he didn’t register in person!)

    Anyway, they obviously read my article, SLEIGHT-of-HAND in the “SHOW-ME” STATE. Because they posted, ‘Birther jbjd brought up a good point…’ and talked about the military exception in the law, to in-person filing for the ballot; meaning, the candidate is filing with no in-person confirmation as to identity or eligibility!

    See, even BO supporters can be reasoned with.

    http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:IHLkiaWcnXwJ:www.politijab.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php%3Ff%3D25%26t%3D4375%26start%3D0+maldonado+jbjd+military+politijab&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a

  143. SORRY; MY LINKS GOT FABLUNGED!

    Remember my article, IDIOMS!, inspired by the hassle I got from the BO supporters on Politijab, when I insisted, in Texas, state party officials are just like public officials for the purpose of obtaining documents or ordering Mandamus? They swore I was wrong but, turns out, I was right! Well, seems they have come around, and are in my corner now. At least when it comes to Hector Maldonado.

    They had de-bunked his story of disparate treatment, by citing to the legal differences between MO laws for filing in the Presidential preference primary – up to party for validation – versus U.S. Senate primary. They even posted the actual laws; good for them. (Actually, on the video in which HM uses my moniker, he also mentions this difference in the candidate validation laws; however, for some reason, he still fails to withdraw his claims of disparate treatment against the SoS!) But Politijab had mentioned nothing about the difference between filing requirements for active duty military versus civilian. And recall from the article I wrote, what first brought me to check whether HM was active duty military was, it never made sense to me, the SoS would ask for verification months after he registered – unless he didn’t register in person!)

    Anyway, they obviously read my article, SLEIGHT-of-HAND in the “SHOW-ME” STATE. Because they posted, ‘Birther jbjd brought up a good point…’ and talked about the military exception in the law, to in-person filing for the ballot; meaning, the candidate is filing with no in-person confirmation as to identity or eligibility!

    See, even BO supporters can be reasoned with.

    http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:IHLkiaWcnXwJ:www.politijab.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php%3Ff%3D25%26t%3D4375%26start%3D0+maldonado+jbjd+military+politijab&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a

  144. • DABIG // July 26, 2010 at 1:08 pm
    • Pete // July 26, 2010 at 2:38 pm
    =================================
    GREAT WORK, PETE in finding that Theodore Agnew was a naturalized citizen when Spiro was born!

    After reading DABIG’S’s Agnew comment when I got home , since I’m into genealogy, I immediately went to Ancestry.com. I found Theodore Agnew’s WWI draft card and the WWII draft card as well. The WWI card was difficult to read so transcribing it must have been tedious. The original document definitely does show a check mark under naturalized citizen. And it is dated Sept 12, 1918 which according to his date of birth means it was his 40th birthday. The WWII draft card does not indicate citizenship, only place of birth. However the 1930 census confirms that Theodore is a naturalized citizen.

    In regard to the 1920 census showing Theodore was an alien and not naturalized. Many times census information was acquired from neighbors which could account for errors. What was puzzling to me was the letters “Al” are entered for Theodore’s wife under the Naturalized or alien column. She was born in Virginia so there shouldn’t be any notation in that column. I’m not sure what that’s about, but it does demonstrate the fact that errors are made sometimes.

  145. Jonah // July 26, 2010 at 10:17 pm
    ************
    Hi Jonah,
    Thanks for taking the time and effort to do the research on this, confirmation is always welcome. Interesting, you found the 1930 Census as stating he was naturalized too. That’s all good info, thanks again!

  146. @Jonah, first of all I responded to your question on the other thread…. my short response is…. I wish those boat people were Americans or Canadians!!…. so long as they are not Muslim.

    You raise an interesting point about Spiro’s mother having an Al mark on that census information. Could it be that someone altered the information in later years?…. just asking….

  147. Aussie // July 26, 2010 at 10:47 pm

    Aussie, exactly what I was thinking, so many “coincidences”!!

  148. DABIG,
    It is good to have confirmation. However I would go with the info on the draft card. The registrant must sign the card affirming that the info is true.

    BTW I added Agnew’s to my collection of WWI draft cards. World War I draft registration cards were completed by approximately 24 million men living in the U.S. in 1917 and 1918.

    There were three different WWI cards issued. Interesting that the first cards (1917) asked if the registrant was natural born, naturalized or alien. The second cards (July 1918) asked if native of the U.S. , naturalized citizen or alien. The third (Sept 1918) asked if native born or naturalized U.S. citizen or alien.

    Why change from natural born designation to native born? Did Selective Service realize there was a difference and the term natural born was too specific and that the term native born was more appropriate? Hmmmmmm.

    I contacted Ancestry.com and asked why SS changed from natural born to native born. They replied that they didn’t know and suggested I contact SS. You know the SS in Chicago, that replied to the FOIA request for Obama’s draft card. The draft card posted on Debbie Schlussel’s website. Yeah, right!

  149. Aussie,

    I read your response and I see you have some of the same immigration problems we have. So Americans aren’t trying to escape to Australia? Not yet, anyway.

    In regard to the notation for Spiro’s mother,
    I don’t suspect any “alterations”. It just looks weird. There is another notation on the same page for another lady who is married to a another Agnew. (probably related) There’s an “X” in the square for year of immigration to U.S. and “Al” in the naturalized or alien square. Both ladies were born in the U.S. The marks are just not supposed to be there. Don’t think it’s significant.

    http://barackryphal.blogspot.com/2010/01/spiro-agnew.html

  150. BP Oil Spill: Clean-Up Crews Can’t Find Crude in the Gulf

    As Size of Slick Shrinks, Experts Say Oil is Breaking Up, Staying Below Surface

    By JEFFREY KOFMAN
    BURAS, La. July 26, 2010

    Read more –
    http://abcnews.go.com/WN/bp-oil-spill-crude-mother-nature-breaks-slick/story?id=11254252

    Hmmm….. “That oil is somewhere. It didn’t just disappear,” said Plaquemines Parish President Billy Nungesser.”

  151. • Ginger // July 26, 2010 at 2:58 pm
    ATTENTION….. Jonah
    I hear that Roy Blunt is 6 points ahead of Carnahan. Is this true? We have 9 republicans running in the primary! I am focused on Roy Blunt,
    Hector Maldonado, and Chuck Purgason. The others I do not know anything about. Would you want to give me your best shot of who can beat Carnahan in November? I hear that Chuck Purgason is backed by the Tea Party!
    ==============================

    I haven’t seen the latest polls. But I think you’re right about the TEA Party supporting Purguson. All the political emails I’m getting from tea party people seem to be promoting him. I sent emails to some of the local bloggers about Maldonado and didn’t see anything posted on any of them. The TEA party groups don’t seem to talk much about Obama’s eligibility. Guess they don’t want to be “ridiculed”. Lord knows they are ridiculed enough already. They are racists, ya know. 🙂

    I don’t care much for Blunt but don’t know Purguson. Unfortunately, Maldonado doesn’t have much visibility but he should have a good case against SOS Carnahan in regard to Obama’s eligibility.

    BTW, in my opinion, since Carnahan is the SOS and her job is to oversee the elections, she should resign since she’s running for U.S. Senate. You can’t referee the game you’re playing in.

  152. Ginger,
    Just opened an email. If I had your email address, I’d forward it to you.

    Congresswoman Michele Bachmann coming to St. Louis this Saturday, July 31st, to endorse and promote Roy Blunt as the “Tea Party Caucus” candidate. Many leaders in tea party groups around our state of Missouri are shocked that Ms. Bachmann would choose Roy Blunt as the tea party choice, as many of us are putting our support behind Chuck Purgason running for U.S. Senate.

  153. @Jonah,

    our illegal alien problem goes back to the days of the Vietnam war. The origingal boat people were the Vietnamese fleeing the communists.

    However, we also get illegal aliens who overstay their visas. They enter the country with student visas. We ended up with more than 20,000 Chinese applying for asylum after Tiannamen square because Bob Hawke made a blanket exception for them to stay…. I still disagree with that move.

    On the other hand we have a problem with the “legal” immigrants because we changed the criteria and started to allow the “scarfs” (term used by Turkish people in a certain area of Sydney) to come to Australia. I believe that was a very big mistake.

  154. @Jonah, about Robin Carnahan, I agree that someone who is in charge of the voting etc should not be running for office like that.

    This is why Australia has the better system. We have an Australian Electoral Commission. This is a semi-government body. The Commissioners are appointed, not elected (you have elected SoS which is open to corruption), and people employed with the AEC are not allowed to be members of a political party. It used to be that you could not even get a temporary job with them at election time if you were a member of a political party.

    Our system is also different because we do not have to register as belonging to a political party. The branch members of an electorate are supposed to nominate the candidate, but sometimes the party head office steps in and will impose a candidate. On the other hand it can be fun when the branch tosses an unpopular politician such as Belinda Neale 🙂

    We register by getting a card from the Post Office and then mailing the completed card to the local AEC office. The calling of a snap election has proved a problem with about 1 million potential voters being disenfranchised (unless they got their registration in on time – almost impossible for many). At least it means that we do not have ACORN workers registering people which has proven so fraudulent. However, we do have problems with dead voters turning up to vote for the ALP!!

    I do think that our more neutral methods are better than in the USA.

    We continue to have voting with paper ballots rather than voting machines. Although I have used electronic voting once for local elections. The ACT voting system is not the same as elsewhere in Australia and it has given the Watermelons (the Green Party) a say in local politics….

  155. On-duty sheriff deputy to Christians: ‘There is no Jesus!’

    Atheist officer shouts, ‘I am a non-believer,’ boots protesters from concert grounds

  156. Obama religion adviser linked to unindicted co-conspirator

    On speakers list for Muslim group cited as a ‘chief conduit’ to bring Islam to U.S.

    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=184189

  157. Busted! Kagan caught fudging her testimony

    Nominee dupes U.S. Supreme Court on partial-birth abortion, denies role

    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=184165

  158. Kerry On Yacht-Taxes Issue: ‘Nothing More To Say’

    http://wbztv.com/local/john.kerry.yacht.2.1825558.html

  159. Marty Didier

    Margie // July 26, 2010 at 6:30 pm

    Marty Didier …..your about a 5 1/2 hour drive away from me… can we meet 1/2 way and talk?…
    =====
    Yes I wouldn’t mind meeting with you. We’d have to schedule it somehow. Currently I’m in the middle of a firestorm. The one thing we can’t do is use any electronic venue to communicate on and I’m sure you know why. If the webmaster is able to give you my email address he has my permission to do so. Please include in the description field the website name.

    Marty Didier
    Northbrook, IL

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