US Justice Department corruption, MN voter fraud, Al Franken stole election?, November 2008 Justice Dept letter

US Justice Department corruption, MN voter fraud, Al Franken stole election?

As I sit here writing this, Megyn Kelly on Fox America is about to cover voter fraud in the the MN election that allowed Al Franken to steal the election. I have been monitoring this for some time and have a collection of facts and information on this story.

“Chief Christopher Coates
United States Department of Justice, Civil Rights Division
950 Pennsylvania Ave NW
Washington, DC 20530

November 17, 2008

Dear Mr. Coates,
I represent Minnesota Majority, a non-profit public policy watchdog group. I am contacting you to request a
formal investigation into apparent voter registration irregularities in Minnesota. We believe that the
Minnesota Secretary of State may be in violation of requirements for voter registration practices as defined
by the Help America Vote Act (HAVA). I will begin by providing some background on the situation, which
prompted this letter. I will then provide my specific complaint and our request of your office.
BACKGROUND
As part of Minnesota Majority’s issue advocacy activities, we make use of Minnesota’s voter file, as
provided under Minnesota law. It was in the course of utilizing this list that we began to notice a number of
unusual anomalies in the data, which prompted us to conduct additional research. Our cursory review of the
data revealed a number of potential issues, including:

• POTENTIAL DUPLICATE VOTER REGISTRATION RECORDS: We discovered thousands of voter
registration records that have an exact match on the criteria of first name, middle name, last name and
birth year.

• VACANT AND NON-DELIVERABLE ADDRESSES: The United States Postal Service has flagged
nearly 100,000 voter registration records as being either “vacant” or “undeliverable”. We visited
approximately two-dozen of these addresses to verify the USPS results and discovered approximately
50% of the addresses to be correctly flagged, in that the addresses did not exist. We have taken
photographs of empty lots and non-existent addresses where our investigation revealed invalid addresses.

• DEFICIENT VOTER REGISTRATIONS: Minnesota Statute 201.071 requires voter registrations
recorded after August 1, 1983 to include the voter’s name, address, date of birth and signature. We
discovered thousands of voter registrations that would be considered “deficient” under Minnesota law
due to missing or invalid information. Minnesota law requires these deficient registrations to be
corrected before an individual is allowed to vote.

• DECEASED VOTERS: Using a standard deceased matching service commonly utilized by mailing
houses, we discovered thousands of apparently deceased individuals who are still on the voter rolls.
• DOUBLE VOTING: We found nearly 100 cases in which voter registration and voter history records
suggest that a single voter may have voted more than once in a single election. There are thousands of
additional records that merit review.

• OTHER INCONSISTENCIES: We have discovered several thousand voters registered after August 1,
1983 that had birth years suggesting these individuals are 108 years of age or older. We also found
nearly 2,000 individuals who appear to have registered and voted before the age of 18.”

http://www.minnesotamajority.org/Portals/0/documents/2008-11-17-DOJ-Letter.pdf

Citizen Wells October 14, 2008

“As I expected, the investigations into ACORN and voter fraud has arrived to our fair state. From KSTP:

The Hennepin County attorney announced Tuesday they’ve launched an investigation into an allegation that an individual with the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, or ACORN, did not fully comply with Minnesota voter registration rules.

According to the allegation, a batch of registration forms were turned into the office of elections outside the ten-day period, but were turned in early enough to be registered to vote in the September primary.”

Read more

Fox News November 10, 2008.

“Minnesota is becoming to 2008 politics what Florida was in 2000 or Washington State in 2004 — a real mess. The outcome will determine whether Democrats get 58 members of the U.S. Senate, giving them an effective filibuster-proof vote on many issues.

When voters woke up on Wednesday morning after the election, Senator Norm Coleman led Al Franken by what seemed like a relatively comfortable 725 votes. By Wednesday night, that lead had shrunk to 477. By Thursday night, it was down to 336. By Friday, it was 239. Late Sunday night, the difference had gone down to just 221 — a total change over 4 days of 504 votes.

Amazingly, this all has occurred even though there hasn’t even yet been a recount. Just local election officials correcting claimed typos in how the numbers were reported. Counties will certify their results today, and their final results will be sent to the secretary of state by Friday. The actual recount won’t even start until November 19.

Correcting these typos was claimed to add 435 votes to Franken and take 69 votes from Coleman. Corrections were posted in other races, but they were only a fraction of those for the Senate. The Senate gains for Franken were 2.5 times the gain for Obama in the presidential race count, 2.9 times the total gain that Democrats got across all Minnesota congressional races, and 5 times the net loss that Democrats suffered for all state House races.

Virtually all of Franken’s new votes came from just three out of 4130 precincts, and almost half the gain (246 votes) occurred in one precinct — Two Harbors, a small town north of Duluth along Lake Superior — a heavily Democratic precinct where Obama received 64 percent of the vote. None of the other races had any changes in their vote totals in that precinct.”

Read more:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,449334,00.html

Newsmax June 2, 2009

“A public watchdog group is calling for federal authorities to investigate allegations of widespread voter fraud in Minnesota, charging that state election officials have been unable to establish the eligibility of over 30,000 persons whose ballots were included in the November election.

A lawsuit filed by the nonprofit group Minnesota Majority alleges that Minnesota Secretary of State Mark Ritchie and 25 county election officials failed to reconcile registrations — matching votes cast with actual voter registrations of people who live at valid addresses — thereby casting a shadow over the legitimacy of thousands of ballots cast on Nov. 4.

The lawsuit transcends the issues being debated in the ongoing Senate election contest between Democrat Al Franken and former GOP Sen. Norm Coleman, which is now under review by the state’s supreme court.

“When you’re talking about a major U.S. Senate race that’s being decided by 312 votes, whether you’re for Coleman or Franken, it doesn’t give me a great deal of confidence in the election,” Minnesota Majority founder and CEO Jeff Davis tells Newsmax. “I would guess that both camps would be really interested in knowing what the heck is going on.”

Davis is calling for a federal investigation into what he sees as systemic voter fraud in Minnesota elections. Minnesota law allows people to show up at the polls on Election Day, fill out a voter registration card based on a pledge that they are eligible, and cast a ballot.”

Read more:

http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/minnesota_fraud_lawsuit/2009/06/02/220818.html

Minnesota Majority July 24, 2009.

“Minnesota Supreme Court Passes the Buck

The release of a House oversight committee report alleging the systematic commission of numerous serious crimes by the Association of Community Organizers for Reform Now (ACORN) yesterday deepened Minnesota Majority’s concerns about the integrity of Minnesota’s elections.

Meanwhile, the state’s Supreme Court issued a ruling asserting that it does not have original jurisdiction to Hear Minnesota Majority’s case that was focused on a discrepancy of vote totals. In April, it was found that at least 40,000 more ballots were counted than there were records of voters who cast them in the statewide voter registration system.
 
The facts aren’t in dispute. Secretary Ritchie admitted to the discrepancy and all of the factual evidence in the case was provided by the secretary of state’s office. The court’s order to dismiss the case was without prejudice, meaning the Supreme Court didn’t rule on the merits of the case, only jurisdiction. In fact, the order states Minnesota Majority’s intention is a “laudable goal,” and goes on to suggest submitting the petition to the office of Administrative Hearings, the venue the Supreme Court believes is the appropriate starting point for the complaint.”

Read more:

http://www.minnesotamajority.org/Home/tabid/112/BlogDate/2009-07-31/Default.aspx

Minnesota Majority September 18, 2009.

“Yesterday the US House voted 345-75 to cut-off all federal funding for the scandal-plagued Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN). This comes on the heels of the Senate’s vote earlier in the week to deny housing funds for ACORN 7 Senators voted to continue the funding, though.
 
All Congressional votes in favor of continuing ACORN funding were by Democrats, including Representatives Keith Ellison (Minneapolis/5th district) and Betty McCollum (St. Paul/4th district).”

Read more:

http://www.minnesotamajority.org/Home/tabid/112/EntryID/212/Default.aspx

Minnesota Majority September 30, 2009.

“In the wake of ACORN scandals erupting across the nation, several Minnesota gubernatorial candidates joined Minnesota Majority today in calling on Attorney General Lori Swanson to investigate the embattled organization’s Minnesota activities. 

Jeff Davis, president of Minnesota Majority cited numerous glaring discrepancies in election records, such as evidence suggesting dead people and convicted felons voted in the 2008 general election as well as voters registered with non-deliverable mailing addresses and a high volume of rejected voter registration postal verification post cards.”

Read more:

http://www.minnesotamajority.org/Home/tabid/112/EntryID/215/Default.aspx

Minnesota Majority July 8, 2010.

“Minnesota Majority has been calling for an investigation into violations of federal election law in Minnesota for nearly two years. That call has gone unanswered by the US Department of Justice. Now we are finding out why.

Former Justice Department attorney J. Christian Adams testified before the US Commission on Civil Rights that the current administration of the United States Department of Justice has a policy of not enforcing anti-fraud provisions of federal election law. Because Minnesota allows Election Day registration, we are exempt from certain provisions of the National Voter Rights Act (NVRA), but the Help America Vote Act (HAVA) contains similar provisions. Specifically, Section 303(a) of HAVA requires that the states perform voter registration list maintenance to remove deceased and ineligible voters (including felons and those who’ve moved out of state). This is an anti-voter-fraud measure that, according to Adams, Deputy Assistant Attorney General Julie Fernandes refuses to enforce.

Adams quoted Ferndandes as saying, “We’re not interested in those kind of cases. What do they have to do with helping increase minority access and turnout? We want to increase access to the ballot, not limit it.”

She evidently doesn’t want to limit access to the ballot by ineligible felons, dead people and people who don’t live in the state they are voting in, because the law in question requires such names to be purged from the voter registration rolls to prevent needless errors and abuse.

Minnesota Majority has experienced the DOJ’s refusal to investigate these kind of cases first-hand. On November 17th of 2008 (immediately following the 2008 General Election and while the Coleman-Franken recount battle was getting underway), Minnesota Majority president Jeff Davis sent a certified letter to then Voting Section chief of the Civil Rights Division at the DOJ, Christopher Coates, requesting an investigation into apparent failures to comply with HAVA by Secretary of State Mark Ritchie. No response was forthcoming.
 
Since the DOJ in Washington DC failed to follow up on Davis’ complaint, Minnesota Majority contacted the local FBI office and lodged the same complaint. Special Agent Brian Kinney responded and visited the Minnesota Majority office to examine Minnesota Majority’s findings. At that time, he said, “based on what I see here there is more than enough evidence to initiate an internal complaint.” He gave his assurances that he would bring the matter to the attention of his supervisors. There was no further follow-up.”

Read more:

http://www.minnesotamajority.org/

I have just begun to write about US Justice Department corruption. I, and I hope you, will demand a congressional investigation.

97 responses to “US Justice Department corruption, MN voter fraud, Al Franken stole election?, November 2008 Justice Dept letter

  1. Should we second-guess the enemy?

    Here is a ghastly thought.

    What if exposure of voter fraud, intimidation, etc.
    becomes so strong and widespread, that BHO will use THAT as a reason to suspend elections?

    Is it possible? Yes. Anything is possible.

    Is it probable? I hope not. (He would have to enlist the publicity that only the LSM could give, including scope and spin.)

  2. Hope they do a Recall on Al Franken.

  3. TruthSeeker

    Cabby,

    “Never let a crisis go to waste”

  4. If Al Franken was recalled could he sue on grounds of discrimination ? , all the other Democrats won their offices by election fraud, including President John Doe .

  5. ARMY D.A.V.
    LOL

    Recall Ovomit

  6. Free Speech

    Where is the repub gov pawlenty on this? He should order a MBI investigation. Obviously the demRat congress & dept of injustice are not going to investigate.

  7. No need to recall anyone,

    Just go to this website and quickly have your issue resolved, its full proof, and possibly bullet proof.

  8. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    Pawlenty – yeah – good question. He is often cited on the short list of “good guys”. Why is he AWOL on this?

  9. Philo-Publius

    “We aren’t trying to change the result of the last election. That legally can’t be done,” said Dan McGrath, Minnesota Majority’s executive director. “We are just trying to make sure the integrity of the next election isn’t compromised.”
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/07/12/felons-voting-illegally-franken-minnesota-study-finds/

  10. The links didn’t post. I’ll try again

    Go to….

    http://grandjury.blogtownhall.com

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/06/how-to-start-and-lead-citizens- grand.htm

    http://dewdropwarriors.blogspot.com/2009_03_01_archive.htm

    No need to recall anyone, just click these links

  11. FS

    Not sure but didn’t the GOP and the Bush DOJ also take a pass on all election fraud cases ? .

  12. Free Speech

    ARMY D.A.V. // July 13, 2010 at 3:16 pm

    FS

    Not sure but didn’t the GOP and the Bush DOJ also take a pass on all election fraud cases ?
    ***************************************

    I personally sent dozens of emails to the McCain campaign in 2008 about voter fraud & intimidation in Tennessee, Texas, Florida, PA, Ohio etc. and McCain did nothing but say, “…he (bo) is a citizen and a family man.”

  13. TruthSeeker // July 13, 2010 at 2:44 pm

    Cabby,

    “Never let a crisis go to waste”
    ******************************
    Perfect match! That’s one that fits any event – created or natural.

  14. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO) // July 13, 2010 at 3:12 pm

    Pawlenty – yeah – good question. He is often cited on the short list of “good guys”. Why is he AWOL on this?
    **********************************
    Is this another one of the examples where “you go along to get along?” I feel somehow that Pawlenty is rather weak, but then that may be a wrong assumption.

  15. The CW “train cars” of information are moving so fast that I feel like the person who finds out the train has just left the station. We are benefiting from all the research that CW has been and is doing.

    When I first started posting some months ago I didn’t know how to expeditiously find a new thread and was relying on Google reference. Boy, I would be left in the dust if still following that method. Now I just review the list of “Last Five Articles” to see what is NEW. Keep it coming, CW. I’ll be in a pickle if you do more than five in a day. Ha!

  16. Freespeech,

    I finally figured out how to resolve your illegal arrest and thre corruption of the politicians in Tennessee – from the Govorner, the State officials, down to the local Nashville Sheriff dept.

    Pay attention as I will explain it to you, and you must follow it step by step, otherwise it will not work. But if you follow my advice, and you are turned down at your local level, you cannot be denied at the US Supreme Court.

    Now here are the links to end the corruptions in the State of Tennesse. Trust me, it works in bringing down the Federal Government, it also works at the lower level. Here are the links, follow them and all will work for you.

    For information on forming a Secret Grand Jury to investigate crimes go here:

    http://grandjury.blogtownhall.com

  17. And not to forget this link,

    http://dewdropwarriors.blogspot.com/2009_03_01_archive.htm

    Now if you follow my instructions, you will bring down the corruption in our State and exonorate yourself by forming a CGJ.

    I look forward to hearing your CGJ in Tennesse progress. If I can be of help with your forming a CGJ against Tennesee officials that wrongfully aressted, let me know.

    You are the expert in CGJ, and look forward to working with you to bring down the State. Just follow the links I have provided.

  18. Keep fighting the GOOD fight. Stay Safe, God Bless.

  19. Free Speech

    Thanks but you will find all the info for your indictments in the following links:

    United States Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia stated in the case of United States vs. Williams: “Rooted in long centuries of Anglo-American history, the Grand Jury is mentioned in the Bill of Rights, but not in the body of the Constitution. It has not been textually assigned, therefore, to any of the three branches described in the first three Articles. It is a constitutional fixture in its own right…In fact, the whole theory of its function is that it belongs to no branch of the institutional Government, serving as a kind of buffer or referee between the Government and the people.”

    For information on forming a Secret Grand Jury to investigate crimes go here:

    http://grandjury.blogtownhall.com

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/06/how-to-start-and-lead-citizens-grand.html

    http://dewdropwarriors.blogspot.com/2009_03_01_archive.html

    For information on Crimes committed by the bo campaign:

    https://citizenwells.wordpress.com/category/nashville/

  20. Drudge now:

    Witness: Rahm Emanuel asked me to call Blagojevich to say President Elect Barack Obama wanted Valerie Jarrett

    http://blogs.suntimes.com/blago/2010/07/witness_rahm_emanuel_asked_me_1.html

  21. TruthSeeker

    “Dead Fish” Emanuel’s “Swiss Army Knife” of statements, Cabby. Sure to fix any of Zero’s problems.

    Created or Natural.

  22. TruthSeeker

    Re: Drudge,

    Lord, PLEASE tell me someone in authority is keeping notes…

  23. citizenwells

    Thanks Cabby.
    Some of these articles require much research and digging.
    Also, things change & evolve so fast.
    I guess it is more apparent why I kept pushing the Rezko, Blago, Obama corruption
    & USDOJ corruption.

  24. citizenwells

    PS- Plus the MN vote. I never forgot that & some of you helped immensely.

  25. CW – You’re welcome! But THANKS TO YOU!!

    Your work is what makes this the most attractive blog on the internet. Not only the intense and serious research which you do, but your passion and patriotism drive us all forward to become involved. God bless!

  26. William – Your impressions and advice are “right on”, imho.

  27. TruthSeeker

    Man, here I am thinking,

    Zero’s wife condemning the Tea Party as racists,

    Um,

    She DOES know Clarence Thomas’ wife is a Tea Party leader…?

    Doesn’t she…?

    ???

  28. Philo-Publius // July 13, 2010 at 3:13 pm

    Ummmm. The real, legal result of the last election is that the other candidate WON.

    Franken IS already illegal.

    Easy to fix. Franken steps down. The winner of the election, who has been legally defrauded (as have the voters) steps into the office legally afforded to him by the legal voters.

    The vote fraud does not cease to be illegal because a usurper has been sworn in.

  29. citizenwells

    Cabby,
    thanks.
    God bless.
    Wells

  30. !?!! – 5:34 PM
    The vote fraud does not cease to be illegal because a usurper has been sworn in.
    ********************************
    Only in the minds of those who have the power to do something about it?! Absolutely disgusting, isn’t it? That Al Franken is nothing but a big joke as far as his demeanor is concerned; the problem is that he has POWER and is one more danger to our country. He should be unseated in light of new information coming to light. Doubtful!

  31. “Obama has a 2nd middle name of “Abdalla” and originated from East Africa per “The Citizen” newspaper of Tanzania”

    http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/07/east-african-news-obama-has-2nd-middle.html

  32. GORDO

    That’s fine , but I for one would much rather know his legal name , parents legal name , if known and where he was born , if known .

    And Why the people of this country allow such a dangerous alien in the WH.

  33. GORDO @ 5:49 pm
    Remember when they were checking on all of Obama’s SS #’s, I lost count of how many were identified as Barack/Michelle, but they had a bunch more possibles-I wonder if they should cross check them with this latest edition of Obama fine family names. I’m beginnning to wonder how many names does this guy really have?

  34. bob strauss

    Learning from MN election, no corruption, coming from voting machines mentioned, many have fears about the Sequoia software.

    Also learned most of the corruption and fraud was compounded by George Soros’s hand picked SOS. “He who counts the votes determines the outcome of the election.”

    Failure to purge the voter rolls of ineligible voters, and dead voters, coupled with ACORN’s attempt to overwhelm the system by dumping thousands of phony voter registration forms on the MN office of elections allowed fraud to prevail.

    Somewhere out there are the people that filled out all of those phony absentee ballots, and mailed them, along with people that voted multiple times, using a false identity to make sure “everyone” on the voter rolls voted.

    Totally corrupt, and no integrity, would best describe the election in MN in 2008 and Obama’s injustice dept will not be doing any investigating in to this matter.

    Chicago style elections go nation wide, the dead rise to vote, and the felons are all pardoned for the day, as long as they vote for the democrap.

  35. TruthSeeker // July 13, 2010 at 4:17 pm

    Re: Drudge,

    Lord, PLEASE tell me someone in authority is keeping notes….
    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Sorry, TS…those in authority are probably part of the problem…not the solution!!

  36. bob strauss

    To clarify, I believe the democratic party has been hijacked by the black Muslims, and it is not the party of John Kennedy.

  37. Time for a manufactured crisis?

    Obama faces growing credibility crisis
    http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/434315b2-8ea6-11df-8a67-00144feab49a.html

    […]

    “The bottom line here is that Americans don’t believe in President Obama’s leadership,” says Rob Shapiro, another former Clinton official and a supporter of Mr Obama. “He has to find some way between now and November of demonstrating that he is a leader who can command confidence and, short of a 9/11 event or an Oklahoma City bombing, I can’t think of how he could do that.”

  38. Free Speech

    bob strauss // July 13, 2010 at 6:50 pm

    Afraid U R right. All the fraud coupled with dept of injustice sanctioned intimidation may result in the demRats gaining seats.

  39. bob strauss

    Benaiah,
    Obama’s next major crisis will be, how he responds to a court order to disclose his proof of eligiblility to be POTUS.

  40. Philo-Publius

    “If you don’t win the election on the first count — demand a recount and litigate until you get the result you want (or the U.S. Supreme Court says enough of this foolishness). That has become the Democrats new mantra…”
    — David E. Johnson, CEO and co-founder of Strategic Vision, a public relations and public affairs agency

    Keep looking for votes and keep counting until you win.

  41. Free Speech

    Remember algore went to MN to help Franken steal the recount.

    Pawlenty really dropped the ball on this. He should have had the MBI all over alFrankengore.

  42. Philo-Publius

    Democrats will argue a manual count that included ballots that had not been counted and mysteriously appear after the election becomes in doubt are an accurate reflection of the voters’ will.

  43. truthbetold11

    I”m smart enough and people with cheat with thier sacred votes for me. Big Al

  44. bob strauss // July 13, 2010 at 7:07 pm

    Obama’s response:

  45. Free Speech

    bob strauss // July 13, 2010 at 7:07 pm

    Benaiah,
    Obama’s next major crisis will be, how he responds to a court order to disclose his proof of eligiblility to be POTUS.
    ***********************************

    bo will probably die a political death of 1000 cuts, 1000’s of Grand Jury indictments, 1000’s of lawsuits, and several more scandals and crises.

  46. Free Speech

    Benaiah // July 13, 2010 at 7:15 pm

    err, uh, ah, dat’s HILARIOUS!

  47. bob strauss

    Hey! Rob Shapiro, Obama is a liar, and a fraud, and the people have awoken to the truth, and are now well educated about who Obama really is.

    They will not be fooled again.

  48. bob strauss

    Benaiah @ 7:15,

    Nice vidio of the most intelligent president we have ever had.

  49. @Benaiah:

  50. Obama says …

    Kenya My Country, Tussker My Beer !

  51. Zeeshopper // July 13, 2010 at 7:31 pm

    Too funny…

    “Are you impaired by anything?”

    Uh…Uh…Uh…

  52. Very funny videos Benaiah and Zeeshopper

    OBAMA! (just had to blurt that out) lol!

  53. Philo-Publius

    Obama ‘Guaranteed’ 2012 Win, American University Professor Says

    President Obama is “guaranteed” to win re-election in 2012, according to Allan Lichtman, a professor at American University in Washington, D.C. Lichtman’s formula predicts the outcome of the popular vote without considering candidate opinion polls, campaign strategies or political events.
    http://tinyurl.com/2wsvl3d

    Political historian’s analysis: Obama’s reelection “nearly guaranteed”
    http://tinyurl.com/26ah6n2

  54. Philo-Publius

    NAACP passes resolution condemning racism within tea parties
    http://tinyurl.com/25erzlb

    Where is the evidence?
    Will they pass a resolution condemning racism within the NBPP?

  55. Philo-Publius

    Maybe someone should inform Mr.Allan Lichtman that in 2012 Mr Soetoro will have to produce his paper work .

    And maybe sooner in if we can sneak one American Conservative pass the GOP into Congress.

  56. President Obama is “guaranteed” to win re-election in 2012, according to Allan Lichtman, a professor at American University in Washington, D.C
    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    What is this guy smoking??

  57. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    Is there “something in the water”?

    Or, should I say that there is something in this blog that generates bifurcated personalities?

    Most of you know that I keep a no-read list of people who have been so exasperating, or even ridiculous, that I refuse to read what they write. And even more specifically I do not communicate with them because they have shown an inability to engage in a rational discussion.

    But I think I’ve been hasty or even wrong. I hope we all learn as we go. I now believe that something like a split personality has emerged. Certain people get fixated on an idea and become enamored with it to a distressing and pathological degree. Yet – here is the new learning – when discoursing on other topics they are rational, agreeable, and even mostly right.

    One case in-point is our long-time CWer, Jaqlyn Smith. She got deeply embedded on my list because of her irrational fixation with Romeo Alpha Papa. I just started skipping her stuff. But not many days ago I accidentally read something she posted – and guess what? The JS of yore was back. So I started reading other things she posted and made my important discovery. As long as she stays off that one topic, she’s great! WOW – a V8 moment for me.

    But that leads to my other friend, Free Speech, I have been promoting and sympathizing with since the beginning. (Caustic outbursts don’t bother me – it is just gross belligerence and lack of critical thinking that gets me). But I have been getting more and more worried. His fixation on this CGJ business, the extreme secrecy, and most importantly his refusal to answer reasonable questions, combined with purposeful obfuscation, has put him on a STEEP slippery slope to my no-read list.

    But, then the NEW INSIGHT kicked in. On all other topics, I deeply agree with him – perhaps even more so than any other person on this blog. But on that one topic, he seems far out in “other personality” land.

    So, now I guess I need a new plan: Read most everything, ignore the cr-p, and NEVER ever respond or discuss certain specific topics. So, my new no-read list is a list of topics, not a list of people.

    Opinions?

  58. Grandaughter of former democrat governor producing documentary showing evidence that Obama stole election away from Hillary by intimidation and fraud

  59. “Is Obama’s Re-Election a Sure Bet?”

    “Mr. Obama’s re-election is virtually guaranteed, according to a formula concocted by American University Professor Allan Lichtman. Little beyond a massive scandal directly tied to the president or a major military or foreign policy failure could change that, according to Lichtman’s system, which he calls the “13 Keys.”

    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20010385-503544.html
    ===============
    “Little beyond a massive scandal directly tied to the president …”

  60. Citizen Carlyle – 10:41 PM

    Your point is valid. Everyone has to find that area of comfort so that we don’t get overly stressed out and “self-destruct”? We have to leave certain topics alone after a certain point has been reached.
    That is my experience also.

    In case you would like a brief respite before bedtime, or whatever, go to my post on the third thread back (the “open” one) for some relaxing scenery from the area where I live. It IS not a promotional. The post is at 10:34 PM. It beats the problems of the day.

  61. Let He Who is Without Sin Cast theFirst Stone.

    Imagine that! Michele Evita Obama asked the NAACP to intensify their efforts and vote that the Tea Party groups are racist.

    Isn’t Michele Evita the pot calling the kettle black? The best part of her speech is what she suggests and assumes–that while poor black children are attending crumbling schools and growing up to land in jail–white children are attending the schools of luxury and guaranteed eternal American wealth.

    Isn’t it about time that Michele Evita and all her blalck racists groups wake up and learn that white people and children suffer as much hardship as black. Isn’t it about time they learn that because people are a caucasion, they have no more guarantees in life their life will turn out any better than any one else? Suffering isn’t exclusive to only black people! WE are all hurting regardless what color the president is.

    A lot of noise and hot air. Before the NAACP condemns anybody, they better start looking in their own back yard. Let’s continue with the Black Panthers, then let’s go to Reverend Jeremiah Wright, Louis Farrakhan and his black Muslims, Let us not forget to include CAIR, and continue with Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, the head of Acorn ad sick-a-nitetum. Then tell me how racist the Tea Party movement is.

    What is worse is these people who are so angry at Caucasians don’t realize they are supporting a government that will enslave them. What is sick is it is the white people who had worked to free them! What do they think Lincoln’s Emancipation Proclamation was about? Why do they think the Civil War was fought?

  62. There are many examples of Grand Juries doing their duties are indicting corrupt politicians. At least, 4 judges have been indicted in the last 20 years in Nashville alone. The most recent judge to be indicted by the Grand Jury was Tom w. Brothers for drug money laundering.

    It is rare that a Grand Jury indicts a DA but it has happened in the celebrated case of Dutch Shultz, in the Nifong North Carolina case and in these recent cases.
    http://stopthedrugwar.org/chronicle/614/police_drug_corruption

    http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/texassouthwest/stories/DN-medina_15tex.ART.State.Edition1.45a30ee.html

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_jury

    Sam Sewell // July 13, 2010 at 1:14 pm

    For those who are skeptical of the power of the Grand Jury to operate independent of the prosecutor or indeed target a prosecutor. Take a look at this little tid bit:

    Because grand juries are generally composed of ordinary citizens with no special training or experience in the law, they usually follow the lead of the prosecutor assigned to them. The classic complaint of defendants’ attorneys is that grand jurors would indict a ham sandwich if the prosecutor asked them to. But they don’t always do as the prosecutor wishes, as Jeannene Pacific, the district attorney in Jones County, Mississippi, discovered. Ms. Pacific became the target of her own grand jury when it sought to investigate over $35,000 paid by the county’s Worthless Check Unit to Pacific and her staff as “salary supplements.” Alarmed, Pacific asked the local court to forbid the grand jury’s actions. Although the local court did so, the Mississippi Supreme Court ruled that the grand jury had the power to investigate:

    “The grand jury must be free to pursue its investigations unhindered by external influence or supervision so long as it does not trench on the legitimate rights of any witness called before it. The court generally cannot limit the grand jury, its legitimate investigation, interfere with its investigatory function, control the nature of its investigation, prohibit consideration of offenses within any particular class of crimes, stay its proceedings, dismiss a matter, or do various other things.”

    Ex Parte Jones County Grand Jury, 705 So. 2d 1308 (Miss. 1997)

  63. Rob Shapiro —

    Reality check time for YOU, Mr. Shapiro.

    Trust the instincts of the American people on this one. We’ve got it right.

    O. is nothing but a media-and-money-concocted hoax.

    Leadership? Nah. O. only knows how to create illusions, bully, lie, cheat, steal, blame, and punish people who report facts. Oh . . . and bribe, blackmail, manipulate, corrupt, and “act out” against Americans.

    As Michelle, a poster here, has said, “O is the crisis.”

    If you love this country, really LOOK at what o. is all about. Really SEE at what is (and isn’t) there.

  64. Let’s make this go viral. While the MSM is ‘reporting’ the really important stuff – like where a basketball player will play, or what is written on an actress’s fingernails, THIS is going to effect us all on this planet – in ways we probably haven’t even comprehended.

    http://69.84.25.250/blogger/post/FACEBOOK-JUST-PULLED-THIS-VIDEO-FROM-MY-PAGE-Gulf-Oil-Spill-Obama-Failed-Leadership-Timeline.aspx

  65. Katie // July 13, 2010 at 11:23 pm

    Let’s make this go viral

    *******************************

    Katie // July 13, 2010 at 11:23 pm

    Let’s make this go viral.

    **********************************

    Thanks Katie.

  66. GORDO @ 10:52 pm
    Sounds like a sales pitch just like the first time around with Obama, he was at -17 at Rasmussen again today. Hopefully Lt. Col Allen West will win down here in FL, he could take him on a win easily, but about Obama’s scandals too numerous to count although the supression game continues, but people are not falling for the bull anymore.

  67. This is a product of 20 years of Obama as a community organizer, did Michelle Obama never notice this when she lived there. He’s a thief and she’s a liar, or they are both blind, what did they ever do to help this people nothing, just stole the taxpayers money, with a little help from their friends, Blago, Rezko, Axelrod and more.
    usapatriotsshout @ 10:59 pm
    http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/06/27/grim_proving_ground_for_obamas_housing_policy/
    Grim proving ground for Obama’s housing policy
    The candidate endorsed subsidies for private entrepreneurs to build low-income units. But, while he garnered support from developers, many projects in his former district have fallen into disrepair.
    http://link.brightcove.com/services/link/bcpid1185071465http://www.brightcove.com/channel.jsp?channel=16988910
    Presidential hopeful, residents’ complaints
    (Boston Globe) At a dilapidated Chicago housing project, some see problems with Obama’s favored housing policy.

  68. Native Americans Against Obama- The Color of Tea

  69. LM // July 13, 2010 at 11:32 pm

    Wow! 96% yes. 3 1/2 million votes!

  70. God I Love Megyn Kelly – Town Hall Meeting

  71. What Democrats Think of You

  72. LM @ 11:52 pm
    Loved the video, I used to be proud to say that I was a Democrat, not now I’m prouder to say I’m a member of the Tea Party. Obama is just mad that 60 per cent of us left the Dems to become Tea Party.
    Obama was -17 on Rasmussen today, look at the stats re: illegal immigration.
    What is weird this is how main street media reports Obama-his numbers are in the tank on everything, fastest decent since they started keeping records, but they say “while Obama remains personally popular” my question is with who? what issue? Just making a statement like that makes no sense-they think they can get away with that because he is not booed in public, but the only reason for that is everyone is pre-screened.

  73. Isn’t it about time that Michele Evita and all her blalck racists groups wake up and learn that white people and children suffer as much hardship as black

    Nope–because on a %, more blacks DO end up in prison.
    Now, what does that say about whites??
    I can’t say–I’m not a sociologist.

  74. LM @ 12:04 am
    “God I Love Megyn Kelly” she was good wasn’t she.

  75. Storytime…My husband was in Vietnam in early 70’s and the ratio of blacks and whites was 10 to 90. More blacks and he has stories. I asked why he was so racist and he explained it this way…

    If a black girl walked along the street in our neighborhood, she’d make it to her destination, no cat calls, no slurs, no attacks, she’d be safe, etc.

    Would you get the same result if a white girl walked in a black neighborhood??

    I never questioned him about that again.

  76. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/07/12/governors-obamas-immigration-suit-toxic/

    “Democratic governors expressed “grave” concerns to White House officials this weekend about the Obama administration’s suit against Arizona’s new immigration law, warning it could cost the party in crucial elections this fall, The New York Times reported late Sunday.”

    Typical. Concern for our borders? Nah. Re-election is top priority.

    Don’t forget obanightmarecare and the stim pack, Governors.

  77. Katie // July 13, 2010 at 11:23 pm

    Let’s make this go viral. While the MSM is ‘reporting’ the really important stuff – like where a basketball player will play, or what is written on an actress’s fingernails, THIS is going to effect us all on this planet – in ways we probably haven’t even comprehended
    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Just so you’ll understand how we feel about tv and network news in this house—my husband asked what a ‘lindsey lohan’ was??

    God–I love that man!!

  78. !?!! @ 12:23 am
    I think Obama/DNC/minions have dug themselves a hole so deep that they cannot climb out of it. Good, bury your stupid selves, they were given so many opportunities to listen and for that Madame Pelosi called us all astroturf, but we astroturfers stick together and we are done with you and your ilk.

  79. JJ @ 12:28 am
    ” ‘lindsey lohan’ was??
    God–I love that man!!”
    That is so cute, you can explain it to him this way, she is a child with some major drug/alcohol issues who was warned by a judge many times to clean up her act. She didn’t so the judge gave her 90 days in the slammer. Her reaction 90 days in the slammer is going to “kill her”, I think the judge may save her life, if she is smart enough to re-examine her life. I think she is about 23 years old-really screwing up luckily has not killed her self or others while driving in her “states of confusion”.

  80. Michelle // July 14, 2010 at 12:30 am

    lol

    Astroturfers united — We’ll trip them up every time.

    Yeah. Even all their nasty tricks won’t work when 300 million Americans pull the rug out from under them.

    I was just laughing at a few articles by disgusted dems who think o. is too Republican. One letter to the editor opined that the more we find out, the less credibility o. has. So, o.’s losing support everywhere.

    Don’t know where Rasmussen gets that -17. Gotta be a LOT lower than that.

    Controlled, politically correct polling. Nothing below -22 is allowed.

  81. Guess campaigning dems are being “allowed” to criticize o. for his being too soft on republicans.

    Reid made similar comments.

    Gotta, you know, tap into voters’ dissatisfaction with o, even while having o. campaign for you.

    ROFL

    Here’s Reid’s “criticism,” (after o. purportedly raised $800,000.00 for his campaign. Good! Throw that dem money down the drain.)

    “He is a person who doesn’t like confrontation. He is a peacemaker and sometimes I think you have to be a little more forceful, and sometimes I don’t think he is enough with the Republicans.”

    From:
    No White House words on Reid’s criticism of Obama

    Associated Press July 12, 2010 01:33 PM Copyright Associated Press. All rights reserved.
    Monday, July 12, 2010

    Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2010/07/12/national/w132503D50.DTL&type=politics#ixzz0td4qIelf

  82. I don’t like to talk about myself. I don’t think I am very interesting nor does any one really care.
    There is so much greater than I that deserve our attention–like saving America.

    However I do want to say that I came from an extremely poor and violently abused background. I knew and later discovered more families just like my own.

    My life has been a struggle for economic, emotional, and professional stability ever since. I never associated my horrible childhood to the status of my adult life. I merely looked at my adversity either as obstacles to go around or challenges to overcome. I never blamed the government, society, my gender, or any religion for my circumstance. As a strong single white woman, I rarely got a handout. I didn’t fit in any of the government programs. Sometimes I used to think if I were black, I could have gotten some help.

    Like the little frog that fell in the pitcher of cream, I kept kicking until I succeeded.

    At one time I was homeless. I lived in a van with a dog and a loaded gun. Every night I would drink a bottle of wine, cock the gun and put it in my mouth. The dog would put his paw on my arm, look deeply into my face and somehow make me put the gun down. HE saved my life!

    Year’s later circumstances forced me into dealing with my long suppressed childhood. As one epiphany after another came forward, I did a painting about it. Soon there was an entire body of work that revealed my story of abuse.

    On many occasions strangers had reason to visit my studio for repairs or whatever. They would notice these paintings in my space. To my surprise within about 10 or 14 minutes of looking at these paintings, they would begin to share with me the most intimate details of their own child abuse. I soon realized that having painted the truth about my life, I had also painted the truth about millions of others.

    I began to research the subject extensively and learned how large and universal the numbers of child abuse are.

    Later on I wanted to raise money to build a museum that would deal exclusively with all phases of child and other abuse called The Museum of Innocence. I didn’t have the skills to organize such a project and finally gave up. I did create a website where some of these paintings can be seen at the web site museumofinnocence.org

    What I am taking a long time to say is that there are just as many white children who are as economically under privileged as there are blacks. There are just as many ignorant white people as there are black. All the king’s horses and all the king’s men will never change that for either the black or white child by any government program.

    The only interest the government has in any of them is to use them as a political pawn.

    Michele Evita is attempting to enslave all of us with the help of the good intentioned but ignorant black.

    (Watch all the people who are going to take what I wrote as being racist. I also am not saying all black people are ignorant. What I am saying is that Michele isn’t bringing her case to the smart black people–they wouldn’t accept her racists’ manipulation. I am saying she specifically chooses ignorant black people because they accept her lies verbatim)

  83. “Obama student-loan mystery shrouded by ‘politics'”

    “A defense attorney representing one of the nine individuals indicted in federal court for looking up President Obama’s student loan records characterized the Department of Justice’s actions as a political prosecution.

    “The only reason my client was prosecuted by the federal government was that happened to look up the student loan records of Barack Obama,” attorney David R. Treimer of Davenport, Iowa, told WND.

    Treimer said he had no idea if the Obama student loan records included any irregularities or any information that would indicate that Obama had applied for student loans as a foreign student.”

    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=178837

  84. usapatriots-shout – 1:49 AM

    Thank you for sharing some of your life story – one of courage and survival! It is so true that severities in life are colorblind, and to bring race into the subject is demeaning to everyone. Worst of all, it only increases division and foments ill will.

    It makes me so angry to see this being done for the purpose of creating strife in America to gain political advantage. It will be up to “We The People” to quell this ugly spirit. And to think that BHO promised that race relationships would be greatly improved. What a lie!

  85. Hey NAACP – I’LL TELL YOU WHAT WOULD BE RACIST- THE NATL. WHITE CAUCUS AND THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION FOR THE ADVANCEMENT OF WHITE PEOPLE.

  86. Should have been CONGRESSIONAL WHITE CAUCUS.

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  88. Michelle // July 14, 2010 at 12:35 am
    Most of the time?? Once a druggie, always a druggie—haven’t seen or spoken to my sister in over a year—she’s working on her 40th year.

  89. USAPATRIOTS @July 14, 2010 at 1:49 am
    1) God bless you
    2) All God’s children are here for a purpose–maybe you found yours??
    3)The ‘Fist’ Lady likes to be around the down and out, trodden, ignorant, because it increases her self-esteem(and they don’t realize she’s full of sh** when she doesn’t know what she’s talking about)

  90. 68Truthseeker

    Candidate For Congress Says The People Have The Right To Know If Obama Is Eligible To Serve
    .http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIfMNZqrmZo

  91. Citizen Don in California

    http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/07/update-atty-orly-taitz-appeal-to.html

    Wednesday, July 14, 2010

    UPDATE: Atty Orly Taitz appeal to Clarence Thomas docketed in the Supreme Court of the United States.

    ObamaRelease YourRecords on 8:03 PM

    This is an update to the Atty Taitz appeal to Associate Justice Clarence Thomas to reverse sanctions in Rhodes vs MacDonald. The appeal is now docketed with the SCOTUS. Below the docket info is the previous report on the appeal and the motion filed…

    No. 10A56

    Title:

    Orly Taitz, Applicant
    v.
    Thomas D. MacDonald, Colonel Garrison Commander, Fort Benning, et al.

    Docketed:
    /////////////////
    Read the rest at the above link
    This looks interesting.

  92. Tttttttttt
    mmmmmmmmmm
    gggggggggg

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