Obama trial, May 19, 2010, Obama indictment, Pastor James Manning, Columbia University indictment, Days 1 to 4 recaps

Obama trial, May 19, 2010, Obama indictment, Pastor James Manning

Why has Obama employed a legion of private and government attorneys to avoid presenting a legitimate birth certificate and college records?…Citizen Wells and millions of concerned Americans

Pastor James Manning of Atlah Ministries in Harlem is conducting a trial Of Barack Obama and Columbia University. Manning maintains that Obama never physically attended Columbia and that his degree was bought. Here are recaps of the proceedings of day 1 through 4 provided by the Conservative Monster website.

Day 1

“The indictment was handed down via a grand jury and the subpoenas were refused by Columbia University and the Obama administration according to the testimony. 
Indictment alleges:
 
 

 

1. Columbia Univ. and Obama conspired to defraud and commit wire fraud and mail fraud

2. Columbia Univ. knowingly concealed the fact that Obama is NOT a natural born citizen

3. Columbia Univ. aided in obstructing justice

4. Obama fraudulently obtained office of the POTUS gaining access to sensitive materials, posing a danger to national security.

5. The prosecution dropped the charges of treason and espionage to avoid complications with a death sentence.     


Pastor Manning Quotes:
 
 
 

 

1. Obama is a criminal and we will prove that in this court room

2. Howard Dean, Hillary Clinton and John McCain helped Obama win the election. Manning stated that a witness will testify that John McCain “took a dive” in the 2008 election.

3. The courts have failed and they are complicit, along with the media to cover up Obama’s alleged ineligibility.

4. Manning quoted a speech that he made at a Tea Party in June/July 2009 where he stated “We need to pursue Obama on his ineligibility, non natural born status rather than his policies, because health care will pass no matter how much you try to protest it.  

5. God told me that “Our shoes are our weapons”. Meaning that we need to march and protest to show them that we will not be silenced. “

Read more:
http://theconservativemonster.com/2010/05/14/day-one-of-the-obama-columbia-university-trial.aspx

Day 2

 

“Dr Ron Polland Video – Fraud in the USA

 
Manning then played a video of Dr Ron Polland for the court where he showed in depth how the media targeted John McCain’s possible ineligibility issues due to the fact that he was born in Panama. In many instances, the video showed how the media was biased against McCain and for Obama.

It was also interesting to see that the attacks against anyone that questioned Obama’s ineligibility were brutal, but no attacks or name calling was used against anyone that questioned McCain’s possible ineligibility. The video also claimed that Factcheck.org was allegedly the instigator that started the name calling and this is unusual since they are supposed to be non-biased.

Manning then submitted into evidence a notarized letter from Dr Polland stating that his videos were true and that he owned them. ”

“The FIRST WITNESS

Linda Bentley, the 1st witness is sworn in. Bentley is an investigative reporter from Arizona and she was a very impressing and convincing witness with her testimony on Obama’s selective service card. Bentely, also a former private investigator went into great detail how Steve Hoffman (an immigration agent) obtained Obama’s selective service records. Hoffman filed a request for Obama’s selective service records after he saw an interview with George Stephanopolous back in September 2008.

Obama stated during the interview that “he filed for selective service after he graduated from high school”. Bentley then noted that Obama graduated in 1979 and at that time there was no requirement to file a selective service card since President Ford ended that requirement back in 1975.

Bentley then stated that Hoffman noted that the filing date on Obama’s selective service card was just 6 weeks prior to when he obtained the requested information. The date filing date on the card was just two days after the Stephanopolous interview. There were many dates mentioned, but this is what your reporter is stating that he heard.

There was also an issue with the stamp on the document since there was only a two digit number year (80), rather than a four digit number (1980). Bentley questioned whether the number was made two digits to give the appearance that it was filed in 80, rather than 08 (1980 rather than 2008). ”

Read more:

http://theconservativemonster.com/2010/05/15/day-two–the-obama-columbia-university-trial-with-pastor-manning.aspx

Day 3

“In this interview Dr. Drew stated:

1. Dr Drew was the founder of the Marxist Organization at Occidental College.
2. Obama was a radical Marxist revolutionary that constantly preached about redistribution of wealth and transformation of the political system.
3. Obama had no black friends, they were only white and foreigners (Middle Eastern)
4. Obama wanted to overthrow the wealthy

5. Obama had no girlfriends and that he was not a hard working student that hit the books hard. He liked to party more than study.

6. Islam and Marxism fit together perfectly and that is why leftists and the Muslim students mixed very well.

7. Obama was always dressed very nice, had designer clothes and drove in a BMW. Obama’s friend Mohammed Chandoo from Pakistan seemed to be rolling in cash and Obama was not struggling at all. They spent their money on partying, pot and hotel rooms. ”    

Read more:

http://theconservativemonster.com/2010/05/16/recap-of-day-3-of-the-obama-columbia-university-trial-with-pastor-manning.aspx

Day 4


“Witnesses Sabbath La Fleur and her sister Precious La Fleur
Both testified that they checked the Columbia University archives and yearbooks dating from 1980-1985 and they could find no evidence or photos of any Barack Obama or Barry Soetoro. They also testified that they could not find any Phil Bonner either. Obama stated in his book that Bonner was a friend of his that attened Columbia University with him, after a transfer from Occidental college.
 
 

 

1. The professor that Obama named in his book also could not be found in the archives accorded to their testimony.
2. Nothing related to Obama’s name could be found in the Political Science dept.
3. Teachers spoke of Obama in his elementary school, his High School, Occidental College and Harvard as well, but no professors have ever mentioned him from Columbia University.
4. Obama stated that he used to hide in the Butler Library, but the witness stated that Library is a major meeting place and it is always very crowded. There is no way to hide there without meeting someone. Yet, nobody ever saw Barry in the Butler Library.  

5. There was also a theory that Obama attended the Latrice Mumumba school in Moscow during that time he claimed he was in Columbia, but this has never been proven. This school was created by the Russians to teach radical Marxism to students to help spread communism throughout the world.

6. No photos of Obama taken at his Columbia graduation ”

 

 

Read more:

http://theconservativemonster.com/2010/05/17/recap-of-day-four–the-obama-columbia-university-trial-with-pastor-manning.aspx

 

Thanks to Steve Cooper and the Conservative Monster

56 responses to “Obama trial, May 19, 2010, Obama indictment, Pastor James Manning, Columbia University indictment, Days 1 to 4 recaps

  1. The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Tuesday shows that 25% of the nation’s voters Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as president. Forty-two percent (42%) Strongly Disapprove, giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of -17. That matches the lowest rating earned by the president since the passage of his health care proposal two months ago.

  2. Pixel Patriot

    CW
    please remove my previous post

  3. I personally believe that as time passes there is going to be a lot of extremely shocking details of Soetoro’s hidden,and otherwise twisted life emerge. If I were a betting man I would be putting heavy money on this fact.

  4. PIXEL PATRIOT……………………………..

    Watched the video……….That little guy is great!!!!

  5. Pixel Patriot……………………..

    While our subjects are sometimes OT,our children should never be. I for one enjoyed the video.

  6. Pixel Patriot

    I had second thoughts about posting a light hearted OT video in context with such a serious topic. The kid is great though.

  7. Pixel Patriot,
    I appreciated the post. Dancing in my seat. Now here is a little inspirational speech we can all enjoy- and no teleprompter needed!

  8. oldsalt…I am with you on the betting part….we could make some money…..The facts about the eligibility are out there, I was taught in school…born to American parents, in America, or if during a time of war, born in other area’s deemed American soil. Where are the teachers??

  9. Good to see the kids. Good to remember that we are working to protect and defend them from tyranny in our efforts to restore our nation. Often, what we won’t do for ourselves, even, we will do for our kids. Good to keep their faces in our minds and hearts as we oust the thugs.

    Posted at Dr. Orly’s site. Anybody catch this show?

    Michael Savage to his 11 million listeners:”Obama is an illegitimate president”

    Praying for the primaries today.

    Have a good one, All.

  10. http://www.breitbart.tv/state-department-spokesman-critical-of-arizona-law-admits-he-too-hasnt-read-it/
    “What is going on here?” My answer would be total insanity and stupidity for starters.
    AZ-now you are being indirectly attacked by the current admin, China and the Dept of State.
    Yet another yutz that criticizes the bill but has NOT read it.
    Reporter asks what’s going on here?
    My guess AZ applying the laws-Fed, State, Local and the government (such as it is) doesn’t like it.

  11. Pixel Patriot

    thoughts anyone?

    Mentioned at Manning trial and I also saw last year:

    Witness Al Landry states that the Public Service Registry of Pakistan said 44th President, Obama (Kenyan born)…

    http://www.cssforum.com.pk/off-topic-section/general-knowledge-quizzes-iq-tests/21285-fpsc-recruitment-tests.html

    Now read the disclaimer at the bottom of the page:

    Disclaimer: This is not the official website of Federal Public Service Commission Pakistan. This is a non-commercial website helping individuals who intend to join civil service of Pakistan. The material on this website is provided for informational purposes only. We do not claim that the site is an exhaustive compilation of information about Civil Service of Pakistan neither represent or endorse the accuracy or reliability of any information, content contained on, or linked, downloaded or accessed from any page of this website. These materials are intended, but not promised or guaranteed to be current, complete or up to date. However, honest efforts have been made to provide comprehensive information for the benefit of users. The documents and material displayed or mentioned on this site are not official copies. Please contact FPSC for updated rules and regulations governing CSS examination.

    ____________________

    so why would this be entered as any kind of evidence if referred to as unofficial?

  12. OT re: Our Marines

    According to one official Marine publication, “Suicide is the second leading cause of death in the Marine Corps.”
    Returning troops at the major stateside Marine bases are now being routinely shown training films and PowerPoint presentations regarding how to deal with suicidal tenancies — but still. You gotta be pretty damn desperate to jump in front of a train. How many more of our Marines are that desperate? And if so, how did they get that way?

    Here’s my personal opinion, based on time spent in Iraq embedded with the Marines. I may be wrong about this, but here it is. “American Marines compose the finest fighting force EVER. Forget about Romans and Spartans. Our guys are the best.” So what happened? Why all the suicides? “Because our Marines are being stretched far too thin. American Marines are being asked to defend the interests of an international corporate structure that has its octopus-like tentacles spread out all over the entire globe. That’s far too much territory to expect even our fabulous Marines to defend.”

    But what inflames me even more is that the international corporate structures that our Marines are so gallantly defending aren’t even American corporations! Perhaps one day long ago they USED to be American corporations — but that was back in the days before outsourcing.

    Our Marines are being asked to stick their fingers in [dams] all over the world so that wealthy international corporations all over the world can reap the profits. It’s not even Americans who are reaping the profits any more. No wonder our Marines are so stretched. They are daily and constantly fighting the never-ending battles of Endless War so that men who owe NO allegiance to America — or American workers or American Marines either — can make grossly disproportional profits off of others’ pain.

    Our Marines are being ridden hard and put away wet so that corporations who don’t even pay taxes in America can still have their billionaire bottom lines protected.

    http://repubx.com/

  13. Well duh Rev. Wright, starting to get the message.
    In case you still don’t get it Rev. Wright you served your purpose, then it’s “adios amigo” to you.
    http://apnews.myway.com/article/20100518/D9FP4JRG0.html
    NEW YORK (AP) – The Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Barack Obama’s controversial former pastor, said in a letter obtained by The Associated Press that he is “toxic” to the Obama administration and that the president “threw me under the bus.”
    In his strongest language to date about the administration’s 2-year-old rift with the Chicago pastor, Wright told a group raising money for African relief that his pleas to release frozen funds for use in earthquake-ravaged Haiti would likely be ignored.
    “No one in the Obama administration will respond to me, listen to me, talk to me or read anything that I write to them. I am ‘toxic’ in terms of the Obama administration,” Wright wrote the president of Africa 6000 International earlier this year.
    “I am ‘radioactive,’ Sir. When Obama threw me under the bus, he threw me under the bus literally!” he wrote. “Any advice that I offer is going to be taken as something to be avoided. Please understand that!”
    The White House didn’t respond
    Then-Sen. Obama cut ties with Wright when his more incendiary remarks became an Internet sensation in the spring of 2008. At a National Press Club appearance in April 2008, he claimed the U.S. government could plant AIDS in the black community, praised Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan and suggested Obama was putting his pastor at arm’s length for political purposes while privately agreeing with him.
    Obama denounced Wright as “divisive and destructive” and later cut ties to the pastor altogether and left Wright’s church.
    The letter was sent Feb. 18 to Joseph Prischak, the president of Africa 6000 International in Erie, Pa. Wright subsequently agreed to write a letter to Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner on the group’s behalf to try to get access to millions of dollars.
    Wright’s original letter ranting against Obama’s treatment of him surfaced in an appeal filed by federal inmate Arthur Morrison, boxing great Muhammad Ali’s one-time manager, who was convicted of making phone threats.
    Charles Lofton, Wright’s executive assistant, told The Associated Press that he faxed a copy of the letter to Morrison’s attorney as requested. A copy of the faxed letter signed by Wright showed that it was sent from the Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago on March 31 to the fax number for Goodwin’s law office in Tulsa, Okla.
    Prischak, of Africa 6000 International, is a business partner of Morrison, who has been imprisoned for nearly 18 years after he was convicted of making phone threats between 1989 to 1992 to hospitals where an ex-girlfriend worked.
    Prischak told Wright in a Feb. 11 letter that he was seeking the clergyman’s help in reaching out to the U.S. Treasury Department. He said that Uday Hussein, the son of Saddam Hussein, had entrusted 87 million British pounds in 1990 to Morrison and Ali to buy pharmaceuticals, milk and food for the children of Iraq.
    Prischak said the money was never spent because Morrison was imprisoned. He sought Wright’s help in lobbying U.S. authorities to permit 25 million British pounds in interest from the money held in an overseas account to be allowed to be sent to faith-based groups for the children of Haiti.

  14. Citizen Don in California

    http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/05/meet-lawyers-fighting-another-obama.html

    Tuesday, May 18, 2010
    Meet the lawyers fighting another Obama Eligibility lawsuit, defending the Usurper is a full time job.
    ObamaRelease YourRecords on 1:32 AM

    …. snip …

    JONES v OBAMA – OBAMA’S NOTICE OF RELATED CASE – Case 2:10-cv-01075-GAF-PJW – 05/04/10
    ////////////////////
    Wow, another case and no one reports on it.

    A citizen has a case against o and my reading of it (I am NOT a attorney) looks like it might have a chance. This lady filing this case covers a lot of questions and demands o provide pro0f of his eligibility due to the security concerns of this country.

    Read the case at the above link.

  15. It is amazing how many politicians are falling from grace as their corrupt behavior is being discovered and how BO can call out other governments about their deceit and yet stand before us as the biggest
    mockery / liar American History has ever witnessed . As a mosque is approved to be built at ground zero ( a mockery ) as this illicit admin/ refuses to admit muslims are terrorists / as one attack after another unfolds we are being held captive to an agenda hell bent on destroying the greatest constitution ever written / one to protect all human beings from tyranny and yet what do we have tyranny and treason – It is getting harder and harder to stomach – those that are on the side of this evil would like to change who we are because in our early years we / imperfect as governments are allowed slavery –
    this taints our mission to be a country of freedom in their minds – guess what we are all becoming slaves due to power seeking , greed seeking agnostic dare I say atheists who would love nothing more than to destroy the Judeo Christian foundation we are standing on to provide us with the ability to live according to our will and not the will of another / given to us by our creator – I am disgusted – beyond belief .
    The Tea Party is doing alot to push them out / I pray this movement of the common man maintains its voice as oppostion to big government . This is the twilight zone – the emperor has no cloths was written for this time specifically – pick em off one by one –

  16. Please put this date down – June 11th at 9:30AM at the Walter Reed Medical Center, Bldg. T-2, Washington,D.C.
    This is where the Lt. Col. Lakin court martial will be held. Anyone who has had a loved one killed or injured while the USURPER has been CIC should make all attempts to be there.

    http://www.greeleytribune.com/article/20100512/NEWS/100519882/1002&parentprofile=1001

  17. Thank you for reporting on the Pastor Manning vs. Obama trial. I was worried that not enough conservative bloggers would carry the story.

    Included your post in a link at my blog today.

    Talk Wisdom: To Save America

    Also, I just heard on Glenn Beck’s radio show that Media Matters and some Dem members of Congress (Anthony Weiner?) are going after him because of his sponsorship of Goldline. Can the craziness get any worse??

    The Obama Crime Inc. machine is doing all that it can to shut people like Beck up. I know that some here are angry with Beck for not addressing the eligibility issue. I talk a bit about that in my post today. However, I DO think that we STILL need to support Glenn’s efforts to expose Crime Inc. and the extreme danger and damage that Obama the puppet is inflicting upon our nation with his rich, money laundering Marxo-Fascist thugs stearing the evil ship of Eco-Communist doom.

    The primaries will be a bright spot amongst the darkness that has covered our nation since ObaMARXIST usurped the presidency! November, 2010 will make him a lame duck (thank God!) and then the hold on exposing all of his (as well as Pelosi, Reid, and the rest of the bums in Congress) evil deeds will be lifted! They all belong out of office, but even more importantly – THEY ALL BELONG IN JAIL!

  18. christinewjc- agreed !!!!!!!

  19. ms. helga,
    Thank you for the Ltc. Lakin update.

  20. First post here ! Find it starnge that FOX just broke a story of some one cheating their way into Harvard.

    Strange Coincidence ?

  21. Leo Patrick Haffey

    Rev Manning should have Patriots march down to NBC Today Show’s Window every morning until NBC takes notice of the Columbia-AKAbo Trial.

    !!
    Leo Patrick Haffey // May 18, 2010 at 1:20 pm

    twe // October 9, 2009 at 11:17 pm

    Reposting my 1028 re Batya and possible O connection:

    OK–Here’s a connection. She has worked with Dr. Brian Weiss. And, Brian Weiss has been on Oprah. Bingo! O Connection!

    http://www.pastlivescoaching.com/acknowledgments.html

    I looked up Weiss and he got lots of press on Oprah. He does past life regression therapy. Batya worked for/with Weiss before he got big on Oprah. If he regressed Batya and discovered something in her background that is blackmailable, that would be the lever on Batya…just saying!

    twe // October 9, 2009 at 10:24 pm

    She is also in Pompano Beach, Florida:

    The Nashville Writers Meetup

    Nashville, TN
    1,712 Amazing Writers

    The Nashville Writers Meetup is a group of dedicated people who want to improve their writing and wish to master the craft of writing. While many of us aspire to be published …

    Next Meetup

    Postscript – Writer’s Marketing Chat

    Friday, Aug 22, 2014, 7:00 PM
    19 Attending

    Check out this Meetup Group →

    twe // October 9, 2009 at 10:25 pm

    Another of her sites:

    Batya D. Wininger

    batdarl@aol.com

    http://www.pastlivescoaching.com/

    Batya D. Wininger

    batdarl@aol.com

    ==========
    directory of shamans
    link: shamanism.org
    Leave a Comment

  22. Afternoon. Thanks CitizenWells for putting up Manning trial info. I was planning one today. I think I’ll take the day off now that you have it covered.

  23. Obama at what he does best-blame somebody else, everybody else-anyone else. Next weeks victim the WH janitor.
    http://lamecherry.blogspot.com/
    The Obama Stops Here
    Well leave it to B. Hussein Obama to finally find a scapegoat for his deliberate ditherings over the Gulf Oil Fartification Incident. Yes, Birdie has now blamed not hisself, not hisself choices in Interior Secretary Ken Salazar and not David Rockefeller, but Obama’s choice in goats is Chris Oynes.
    In other words, Obama found a way to blame this on George W. Bush.
    Yes Chris Oynes was promoted to the Interior post of suck up to oil in 2007 by President Bush. It gets better though as Oynes has been on the job for 12 years, and in that math that takes him back to Bill and Hillary Clinton.
    Yes children, B. Hussein Obama has hit political pay dirt in this one in he not only gets to blame George W. Bush without saying his name, but Obama gets to blame his 2012 rival and payback Bill Clinton for his Goldman Sachs conspiracy remarks in nailing Oynes to the wall.
    (more)

  24. There are many Anti-Christs that have come and gone to and fro in this world.

    The Holy Bible says that ANYONE who denies that LORD JESUS CHRIST is CHRIST THE LORD and GOD THE SON, and GOD THE SAVIOR and the MESSIAH DELIVERER and the REDEEMER of Humanity is an Anti-Christ.

    A “son of wrath” is someone who has the wrath of the judgment of GOD resting on them, and a “son of perdition” is a person that is serving Satan the Devil and who is heading to perdition where Satan the Devil was condemned to, because like Satan the Devil did, the “son of perdition” is refusing to obey, honor, serve, and respect GOD, THE MOST HOLY TRINITY’S ALL HOLY & INFINITELY POWERFUL HOLY WORDS, as GOD reigns earth and all Eternity from Eternity where GOD LIVES IN HEAVEN FOREVER LIFE, THE KINGDOM OF GOD, IN ETERNITY.

    Heaven = Forever Life In The Kingdom Of God in Eternity.

    Perdition = Hell Forever Fire in Eternity, and permanent separation from GOD and from LIFE in torture for all eternity.

  25. Leo Patrick Haffey

    Michelle,

    It is mindboggling that President George W Bush and President Clinton continue to take abuse from AKAbo and allow his criminal actions to continue.

    AKAbo has created the biggest environmental disaster in the history of the United States and Presidents Bush & Clinton are letting him get away with it? There has to be something going on behind the scenes that we don’t know about.

  26. #

    Prairie // May 18, 2010 at 1:08 pm

    ms. helga,
    Thank you for the Ltc. Lakin update.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Is there anyone living in the D.C area who might be thinking of going to the trial(CHARADE)?

  27. Leo, AKAbo (good name) is buying Bush’s silence with 9/11 – actually he’s holding it over all the Retreads. But the Retreads have Obama’s eligibility to blackmail him right back.

  28. Leo Patrick Haffey @ 2:03 pm
    Leo I agree something must be going on behind the scenes. Bush, I think would deck him, Clinton would slap him silly and the wives cannot be to thrilled with Obama’s perpetually insulting their husbands. How far is Obama going to reach back in his blame game routine, George Washington it’s all his fault for winning the Revolutionary War.
    I can’t stand wussy guys-and Obama is king of the wooses. An embarrassment to guys especially American guys everywhere.

  29. citizenwells

    ****** Notice ********

    I have posted a comment on a new site, Media Fail.

    http://mediafail.com/fails/249

    ” He has pleaded not guilty to charges that he tried to sell President Barack Obama’s old senate seat”
    The indictment is 113 pages and covers corruption involving Blagojevich and his cronies going back many years. Read more at Citizen Wells.

    Please check it out.

  30. Looks like China is as unhappy with their corrupt government officials as we are with ours. This is how they solve the problem.
    http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-05-18/huang-once-china-s-richest-man-jailed-for-14-years-update2-.html
    Huang, Once China’s Richest Man, Jailed for 14 Years (Update2)
    May 18 (Bloomberg) — Huang Guangyu, the founder of Gome Electrical Appliances Holding Ltd., was sentenced to 14 years in prison for graft, completing the downfall of a school dropout who rose to become China’s richest man.
    The 41-year-old was found guilty of bribery and insider trading by the Beijing No. 2 Intermediate People’s Court, lawyers for Huang’s co-accused business partner Xu Zhongmin said in phone interviews today. Huang was also fined 600 million yuan ($88 million), the state-run Xinhua News Agency said
    “This is a show that the Chinese government is very serious about the anti-corruption campaign and they are doing something,” said Bo Zhiyue, a senior research fellow at the East Asian Institute of the National University of Singapore. “People are not happy about what is going on in society and among government officials,” he said.
    In another case, Wang Yi, a former vice president of China Development Bank Corp., was given a suspended death sentence for taking 12 million yuan in bribes last month, Xinhua reported.
    China Mobile Ltd., the world’s biggest phone carrier by market value, said in January its board voted to remove Vice Chairman Zhang Chunjiang for “alleged serious financial irregularities.” Xinhua reported in December that Zhang was being investigated by the country’s top anti-corruption body.
    In July, Chen Tonghai, the former chairman of China Petroleum & Chemical Corp., the country’s second-biggest oil company by market value, was given a suspended death sentence for bribery. Chen took “bribes to help others, including his mistress, make unlawful profits and led a ‘corrupt life’,” Xinhua reported at the time
    (more)

  31. citizenwells

    Last media fail post

    http://mediafail.com/fails/250

    MSM, Factcheck.org FAIL: Obama birth certificate, COLB, college records

    Obama has employed a legion of private and government attorneys to avoid presenting a legitimate birth certificate and college records. That is the real question not being asked by the mainstream media, including Fox. Video explains more.

  32. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    Here is a good quote for the current times. Use it freely when and where necessary.

    Some truth there was, but dash’d and brew’d with lies,
    To please the fools, and puzzle all the wise.

    – John Dryden – England’s greatest poet
    – Absalom and Achitophel – 1681

  33. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    Economics Lesson #1

    I really hope you can take time to read the following article. You need to know at least this much so you can understand the current situation we face.

    http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2010/05/americas_public_debt_explained.html

    Spending money on bailouts (government or commercial), healthcare, energy, etc. etc. is more than irresponsible. Under the present administration, the deficit is more than ALL of the previous administrations added together, for more than 200 years. We just don’t have the money. We are closer to Greece than you think. Via the debt, do you know how much of America is owned by China and Japan?

    Oh, but I know – “Not to worry!” If there were REALLY a problem, our friends in the MSM news media would tell us.

  34. Leo Patrick Haffey

    Last week before the NewsChannel5.com reporters on Former Nashville Police Chief Serpas’ FRAUDULENT reporting of crime stats, BHO cohort Mayor Dean was praising Serpas. I guess Mayor Dean just wanted to con Mitch Landrieu into taking Serpas off his hands.

    Nashville mayor asks for audit of crime stats under Ronal Serpas

    By The Associated Press
    May 15, 2010, 12:16PM

    Nashville Mayor Karl Dean has asked for an internal audit of the city’s crime statistics after a news report indicated discrepancies in trends.

    WTVF-TV reported that on Friday Dean asked for an analysis after the station questioned why the city’s police department’s crime trends differed from the trends reported by other agencies like the FBI and the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation.

    Before he was chosen to head up the police in New Orleans, Nashville police chief Ronal Serpas said that there were six straight years of crime reductions in the city.

    But the FBI and the TBI’s numbers show that burglaries, aggravated assaults, rapes and larcenies all increased in 2008.

    http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2010/05/nashville_mayor_asks_for_audit.html

  35. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    Economics Lesson #2

    For more than 40 years in academia, business, and politics, I have been harping on a substantial topic that no one seems to properly understand:

    DON’T EAT YOUR SEED CORN

    Never ever! There is no circumstance where this is a good idea. Even in the face of imminent starvation, it must be avoided. Death and destruction, and famine and pestilence are always the result.

    In my dotage I have realized a lifelong dream and become an actual Economist. I have devoured and digested pretty much everything useful written in the last 100 years, and all the way back to Adam Smith.

    I am now (with due humility) unbelievably more learned than Insane Hussein or any of his fly-ng monk-ys. And they are wrong wrong wrong. Or maybe they are smarter than I think – in which case they would be destroying us on purpose! Besides – anything Dubya did (including wars) was economic peanuts compared to the current wholesale destruction of our entire system.

    http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/05/citizens_or_subjects_keynesian.html

    If I may add one more note. Keynesian economics has been the dominant economic policy in Western Europe and America for over 50 years. But it was known to be misguided since at least 1959. It prevails because of the Left’s fascination with Socialism and Government ‘benevolence’. Henry Hazlitt is highlighted in the AT article. The length and depth of his devastating attack on Keynes is indescribable. Author, Thomas Woods, “Meltdown”, says:

    “If you wish to observe one of the great twentieth-century cranks rebutted line by line, this book is indispensable. … it is the most devastating demolition of one intellectual by another I have ever seen anywhere, and it will give you a new and healthy contempt for anyone who points to Keynes as an economist, or as having anything worthwhile to say on economics.”

  36. Starla wrote on a previous thread, “Please 100% Support Dr. Orly Taitz
    For California Secretary of State – Orly will have BHO legally forced to provide his credentials to ALL USA citizens. Buy bumper stickers from Dr. Orly:

    http://www.orlytaitzesq.com
    *******************************
    I repeat, the CA SoS has no legal authority to determine the names of which of the candidates nominated by their political party, may be excluded from the ballot because she determines the candidates are not Constitutionally qualified for the job. Why? Because CA law does not restrict the ballot to only the names of qualified candidates.

    Are you saying, you would vote for a candidate who promises in advance to break the law, just because you (think you will) like the end results? If so then, logically, any objection to BO’s ‘unlawful’ election evaporates, doesn’t it.

  37. CW.. I could get onto the website you posted at 220PM, But not the one you last posted ending with 250 (it said access denied)..249 ok though

  38. Leo.. Proof of Serpas lies.

  39. Excuse the off topic post
    *******************************************
    One sunny day in January, 2013 an old man approached the White House from across Pennsylvania Avenue, where he’d been sitting on a park bench. He spoke to the U.S. Marine standing guard and said, “I would like to go in and meet with President Obama.”

    The Marine looked at the man and said, “Sir, Mr. Obama is no longer President and no longer resides here.” The old man said, “Okay”, and walked away.

    The following day, the same man approached the White House and said to the same Marine, “I would like to go in and meet with President Obama.” The Marine again told the man, “Sir, as I said yesterday, Mr. Obama is no longer President and no longer resides here.”
    The man thanked him and, again, just walked away.

    The third day, the same man approached the White House and spoke to the
    very same U.S. Marine, saying “I would like to go in and meet with President Obama.” The Marine, understandably agitated at this point, looked at the man and said, “Sir, this is the third day in a row you have been here asking to speak to Mr. Obama. I’ve told you already that Mr. Obama is no longer the President and no longer resides here. Don’t you understand?”

    The old man looked at the Marine and said, “Oh, I understand. I just love hearing it.”

    The Marine snapped to attention, saluted, and said, “See you tomorrow, sir.”

  40. jbjd
    I’m no legal scholar (I think you may have mentioned that before!)
    but..
    Didn’t the SOS of California remove Eldridge Cleaver from the 1968 California ballot because he was not old enough to run for President at that time?
    Also the states are supposed to control the ballots for voting in their state? Isn’t it then the AG or SOS who must make a determination of the eligibility of candidates? Isn’t this why the SOS in NJ was sued?

    I don’t support her or any elected official doing things that are illegal… I’m just not convinced that it would be illegal.

  41. CW — I’m sorry. I’d really like to say something thoughtful and wise about this whole Blago mess, but I guess I’m just not up to the task. I’ve read your posts over and over, and all the details and tangents are mind-boggling to say the least. All I know is that it follows the same pattern of corruption that we’ve come to know so well; deception, half-truths, twisted facts, and outright lies. All to protect NObama and his partners in crime.

    So I continue to put my faith in the Lord, and the good people who refuse to accept the status quo and continue to fight the good fight — especially bloggers like you who will not let this be hidden under the rock Obama crawled out from. One day, the whole ugly truth will come out just like the Good Book promises.

    As always, thank you for all you do.

  42. Re:
    jbjd // May 18, 2010 at 3:33 pm

    You are a lawyer. Dr. Taitz is a lawyer. I have confidence in Dr. Taitz, and I think she would NOT break the laws as a California Secretary of State. I am a Christian and I do NOT advocte people to break ANY just law.

    jbjd, do NOT try to have a political debate with me about the California Secretary of State Ballot laws, as I think people need to obey them, and I am certain Dr. Taitz will obey them if she becomes a CA Sec. of State.

    My views are as a Sec. of State of California, I have confidencein Dr. Orly Taitz that she will find a legal way to force Obama to produce his legal credentials….

    My advice to you jbjd, is to not try to limit Dr. Orly Taitz’s thrist for truth and justice.

    Again, your analysis is off-track regarding the central point I was making. I am aware that ALL 50 states have specific Sec. of State ballot laws. You are referring to California’s ballot laws and I am not.

  43. ‘In the first place, we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the person’s becoming in every facet an American, and nothing but an American…There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn’t an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag… We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language.. And we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people.’

    Theodore Roosevelt 1907

  44. Re: Mia // May 18, 2010 at 4:03 pm

    and

    GBAmerica // May 18, 2010 at 4:06 pm.

    Thank you for posting your very excellent posts!!

  45. TJ // May 18, 2010 at 3:52 pm

    jbjd
    I’m no legal scholar (I think you may have mentioned that before!)
    but..
    Didn’t the SOS of California remove Eldridge Cleaver from the 1968 California ballot because he was not old enough to run for President at that time?
    Also the states are supposed to control the ballots for voting in their state? Isn’t it then the AG or SOS who must make a determination of the eligibility of candidates? Isn’t this why the SOS in NJ was sued?

    I don’t support her or any elected official doing things that are illegal… I’m just not convinced that it would be illegal.

    *************************
    You and everyone else would already know the answer to this question if Leo Donofrio had explained the law. Instead, he cited these examples of candidates omitted from state ballots, like Cleaver or Cordero, to support his claim, this proves the SoS must vet the candidate (meaning, the court was wrong to reject his mandamus). (Everyone knew Roger Calero was born in Nicaragua.) But these omissions were perfectly consistent with the law.

    In CA, no law requires the state to print only the names of eligible candidates on the ballot. Therefore, it is unlawful for the SoS to affirmatively determine a priori who is eligible. (More technically speaking, this could be described as saying, vetting is not a ministerial duty.) However, this does not mean, when the SoS KNOWS someone is ineligible, s/he cannot exercise discretion to keep that person’s name off the ballot, consisten with the ministerial function of ensuring the integrity of the ballot and the voting process.

    Everyone does not KNOW BO is ineligible. (And targeting only him for omission from the ballot would create another legal quagmire.)

  46. Starla // May 18, 2010 at 4:04 pm

    Re:
    jbjd // May 18, 2010 at 3:33 pm

    You are a lawyer. Dr. Taitz is a lawyer. I have confidence in Dr. Taitz, and I think she would NOT break the laws as a California Secretary of State. I am a Christian and I do NOT advocte people to break ANY just law.

    jbjd, do NOT try to have a political debate with me about the California Secretary of State Ballot laws, as I think people need to obey them, and I am certain Dr. Taitz will obey them if she becomes a CA Sec. of State.

    My views are as a Sec. of State of California, I have confidencein Dr. Orly Taitz that she will find a legal way to force Obama to produce his legal credentials….

    My advice to you jbjd, is to not try to limit Dr. Orly Taitz’s thrist for truth and justice.

    ************************************

    Your confidence in anyone, and the reasons underlying that confidence, are your own business. That you are confident Orly Taitz would not break the law when she has signalled she has targeted a specific individual for omission from the ballot, notwithstanding in CA, the party nominee is entitled to be on the ballot; is your own business. I am only interested in ensuring, as much as possible, my fellow citizens are able to distinguish between confidence in the person; and knowledge and awareness of existing laws.

  47. jbjd
    Thanks!

  48. citizenwells

    **** New Post ****

  49. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    Economics Lesson #3

    Just to round out the discussion with something I wrote almost a year ago:

    Oh – this explains a lot – – –

    In contrast to John Maynard Keynes – who conflated and confused the concepts of Economics and Social engineering – endeared himself to the European intellectuals – became the dominant leader of Western Economic thought – and almost single-handedly ruined Europe and is about to ruin USA –

    There is the “Austrian School” of Economic thought and theory. Not only appealing to the rational mind (yeah, that makes sense, I can understand that), but having been proved right over and over again, this system is in stark contrast to all that is happening in USA now.

    Back before the Nobel committee discovered the power they had to shape geo-politics, and when they sometimes awarded prizes for actual accomplishment and merit – we have the Nobel laureate Friedrich August Hayak honored for profound insight and advances to the science of Economics.

    To give you a taste: In Hayek’s book, “Law, Legislation, and Liberty, The Mirage of Social Justice”, he states:

    “It is one of the axioms of the tradition of freedom that coercion of individuals is permissible only where it is necessary in the service of the general welfare or the public good. Yet…the vagueness of the different terms which have been employed has made it possible to declare almost any interest a general interest and to make large numbers serve purposes in which they are not in the least interested. The common welfare or the public good has to the present time remained a concept most recalcitrant to any precise definition and therefore capable of being given almost any content suggested by interests of the ruling group.”

    OK – I’ll lay off the ECONOMICS for a while – that’s probably enough to digest for one day!

  50. TO………….

    ANYONE ON THIS BLOG WHO HAS SERVED IN THE US MARINE CORPS DURING THE VIET NAM WAR I am trying to locate a combat veteran who knows the military identity of ALL the Marine Divisions that were deployed to Nam. I am looking for what Regiment,and what Division. My objective is to either prove or disprove the words of Dick Blumenthal..(D) CT. He was a membr of a USMarine Corp,RESERVE UNIT for 6 years. Now keep the word Reserve in your mind while I add this He recently stated in PUBLIC FORUM that he was in Viet nam as a COMBAT MARINE. The New York Times has stated that he NEVER set foot in Viet Nam. Further he was given a 2H draft classification.This sort of thing if true angers me and dirties the memory of our fallen heros. To me for someone to lie about his Marine Corp duty assignment is tatamount to sombody wearing collar devices of rank identity,who have no right to wesr them. While I admire his RESERVE service, I strongly question his alleged Viet Nam combat duty. If he has LIED then he deserves to LOSE the election,in Connecticut. Better still ,be thrown out of politics. Liars have no place in the representation of WE THE PEOPLE. I am hoping that there IS a marine vet out there who will get back to me on this. It is important!

  51. jbjd,

    If you want to educate people you should tell them this: ALL 50 states have their own specific ministerial laws and fiduciary duties for the office of a SoS.

    Each of the individual 50 states have their own specific state ballot laws that are unique to each specific state.

    Each SoS must obey their own state’s Constitution, the USA Constitution, their own state ballot laws for their state, and their own specific state’s SoS ministerial fiduciary duties.

    SoS’s also have discretionary powers to as you mention jbjd, to “exercise discretion to keep that person’s name off the ballot, consistent with the ministerial function of ensuring the integrity of the ballot and the voting process.”

    Everything a SoS can do in office is not written down, thus the words “discretionary powers of the SoS” are noted, and can be used and put into legal effect in a SoS’s capacity when a SoS thinks s/he needs to use the discretionary powers of the SoS to maintain the integrity of the state Constitution eligibility and election laws, to maintain the USA Constitution’s enumerated eligibility laws and the USA election laws, and to maintain the legality of the election process, and the integrity of the ballot, and the voting process.

    A SoS must protect the voters of their state by maintaining the integrity of the legality of the election process, maintaining the legal integrity of the ballot, and maintaining the legal integrity of the voting process.

    If there are any candidates who have ineligibility or illegal activities or election fraud that are found by a SoS, the SoS has the power to inform the Governor, the State Attorney General, and the state Legislature that illegal candidate ineligibility and or any illegal activities, perjuries, fraud, or potential candidate ineligibility and ballot fraud may occur or is occurring, and has been observed and found.

    The Governor and the State Attorney General must be informed of these things if believed to be true and found by a SoS and an investigation process is conducted to bring the possible illegal activities or frauds into a public legal review and a public legal judgment.

    If a SoS finds any candidate has committed an eligibility fraud, or witnesses a candidate’s illegal eligibility activities, or finds that a person is not legally qualified to be on a ballot, s/he has the ability to maintain the state constitution’s eligibility and election laws, and the USA Constitution eligibility and election laws, and not place that person’s name on the ballot with her/his discretionary SoS powers to maintain the minsterial fidiciary duties and the integrity of SoS’s office to protect and obey the state laws, and the USA Constitution laws in the position as SoS, and to protect the citizens of their state to have legal eligible candidates on a state’s ballot that are able to legally pass the state eligibility of office rules and qualifications and the state election laws, who will be placed on the ballot by the SoS.

    To maintain the integrity of the ballot and a legal voting process a SoS must report any frauds and any illegal activities to the above persons. The SoS has the discretionary power to not place a person’s name on the ballot who is not legally eligible the office, and who does not meet the election rules and regulations of the state and the USA federal rules and regulations in election laws.

    # # # #

    “Citizen Carlyle (FUBO) // May 18, 2010 at 4:47 pm

    jbjd –

    You have a very narrow view of the law and of proper human/official behavior. Just because it is not required does not mean it is unlawful.

    I understand that mandamus lawsuits may fail against SOS’s unless their own state law dictates that they police eligibility – “Hey, you can’t sue me unless the law says I have to do it”.

    However, there is the other issue that all SOS’s swear to uphold the constitution. This would seem, at a minimum, to give them a lawful reason to at least gather information and inform the public.

    Further, one of the things that concerns many of us is the failure of the legal system to protect the constitution by not entertaining
    “dereliction of duty” lawsuits against officials who swear the oath and let obvious opportunities slide by.

    Without a STRONG and PROACTIVE defense of the sacred constitution, a constitutional republic is pretty much a wet noodle.”

    # # # #

    “Leo Patrick Haffey // May 18, 2010 at 5:21 pm

    Carlyle,

    A Secretary of State of one of the 50 States would be compelled to honor a Writ of Mandamus from the United States Supreme Court. SCOTUS is the highest Court in the Land; The United States Constitution is the Supreme Law of the Land. No State law is controlling over SCOTUS or the US Constitution. See Marbury v. Madison & Bush v. Gore.

    http://grandjury.blogtownhall.com
    Leo Patrick Haffey // May 18, 2010 at 5:32 pm”

    # # # #

    “Citizen Don in California // May 18, 2010 at 5:50 pm

    The following is from the Calif Secretary of State webpage:

    Information Sheet of Qualifications and Requirements

    Presidential Candidate Qualification Procedures
    Democratic Party

    March 2, 2004 Primary Election

    I. QUALIFICATIONS
    The candidate must be:
    A. A natural-born citizen of the United States
    B. At least 35 years of age, and
    C. A resident of the United States at least 14 years. U.S. Constitution, Art. II, §1(5)”

    # # # #

    “Citizen Don in California // May 18, 2010 at 5:51 pm

    Actually that was from the Web Site, had to search to find it. I also download the entire PDF file.”

    # # # #

  52. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO) // May 18, 2010 at 4:39 pm

    Above my pay grade….however, I just heard a man say that there would be more money spent on entitlement programs this year than received in tax revenue…….
    yes, we finally made it…..we’re ‘upside down’….isn’t that the term used for car loans??

    I thought Keynesian economics used state revenue to create jobs…..to stimulate the economy…….how will that be possible when there is no state revenue—when states are experiencing a budget deficit??

  53. Starla // May 18, 2010 at 6:50 pm

    Trey Grayson, SOS of Ky, just lost the primary nomination of senator to Rand Paul…..Mr. Grayson let all know his duty was only ministerial at best…….
    Are the chickens coming home to roost for SoS Grayson??

  54. Re: JJ // May 18, 2010 at 10:57 pm

    Let’s hope so! And let the chickens all come home to roost for all traitors in the the USA government to the USA American citizens freedoms, civil rights, and liberties.

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