Kerchner v Obama and Congress, Update, April 8, 2010, Merits hearing scheduled, June 29, 2010, Newark NJ

Kerchner v Obama and Congress, Update, April 8, 2010

From Attorney Mario Apuzzo’s blog.

“There has been activity in the Kerchner et al vs. Obama & Congress et al Appeal before the U.S. 3rd Circuit Court of Appeals in Philadelphia Pa.

1st: Atty Apuzzo sent a letter on 2 Apr 2010 to the Court of Appeals requesting addition to the record the dissertation on natural born Citizenship written by David Ramsay and published in 1789, one of the founders of our nation.
2nd: A letter dated 6 April 2010 was received today from the Court of Appeals scheduling a hearing date for the case on Tuesday, June 29, 2010 in Newark NJ. The court indicated in the letter that it has not yet decided whether it will permit Oral Arguments and that the parties to the case will be notified on that decision at a later time. If Oral Arguments are not permitted the case will be decided on the written Briefs and documents before the court. The appeal will be heard by a panel of three Federal 3rd Circuit Judges the names of whom have not been provided at this time.

Atty Mario Apuzzo, time permitting given his active legal practice, will provide a fuller explanation about the filing he made and letter received today from the court later this evening or tomorrow.

Charles Kerchner
Commander USNR (Retired)
Lead Plaintiff
Kerchner v Obama & Congress
http://puzo1.blogspot.com/
http://www.protectourliberty.org/

OFFICE OF THE CLERK

MARCIA M. WALDRON
UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS TELEPHONE

CLERK
FOR THE THIRD CIRCUIT 215-597-2995

21400 UNITED STATES COURTHOUSE
601 MARKET STREET

PHILADELPHIA, PA 19106-1790

Website:

April 6, 2010
Mario Apuzzo Esq.

Eric Fleisig-Greene Esq.

RE: Charles Kerchner, Jr., et al v. Barack Obama, et al

Case Number: 09-4209

District Case Number: 1-09-cv-00253

Dear Counsel:

The above-entitled case(s) has/have been tentatively listed on the merits on

2010

within the

The panel will determine whether there will be oral argument and if so, the amount of time

allocated for each side. (See Third Circuit Internal Operating Procedures, Chapter 2.1.) No later

than one (1) week prior to the disposition date you will be advised whether oral argument will be

required, the amount of time allocated by the panel, and the specific date on which argument will

be scheduled.

Counsel shall file an acknowledgment form

and advise the name of the attorney who will present oral argument. In addition, please indicate

whether or not s/he is a member of the bar of this Court. Bar membership is not necessary if

counsel represents a U.S. government agency or officer thereof or if the party is appearing pro se.

If the attorney is not a member of the bar of this Court, an application for admission should be

completed, which should be returned to this office without delay.

The hyperlinks for access to the

Tuesday, June 29,in NEWARK, NJ. It may become necessary for the panel to move this case to another dayweek of June 28, 2010. Counsel will be notified if such a change occurs.within seven (7) days from the date of this letter,acknowledgment form, application for admission, andappearance form
are provided for your convenience, and are also available on the Third Circuit

website.
Please file your completed acknowledgment form through CM/ECF.

Very truly yours,

Marcia M. Waldron, Clerk

By:

Tiffany Washington, Calendar Clerk-267-299-4905

Case: 09-4209 Document: 003110090637 Page: 1 Date Filed: 04/06/2010
 

 

Link to letter:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/29519222/Kerchner-v-Obama-Appeal-Ltr-from-Court-4-6-10-Case-Docketed-For-Hearing

679 responses to “Kerchner v Obama and Congress, Update, April 8, 2010, Merits hearing scheduled, June 29, 2010, Newark NJ

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  5. Good Morning! Sorry – I had an update to make. Hope you like the Joint Chiefs as Sheeple graphic!

    Gotta go.

    Zach

  6. IMHO can we let one of these cases fly under the radar so the OBOT’s don’t hassle the judges / court ???

  7. bob strauss

    Great news for Kerchner v Obama, merits of the case may actually see the light of day!

    also jbjd has perfected the case of election fraud in the state of Texas and exposed the democratic party, led by Boyd Richie, putting Obama on the ballot. We need to make these issues go viral. Things are heating up on the NBC issue right now, so this might be the time to spread the word, and email these stories world wide.

  8. Jacqlyn Smith

    Below is just a small portion of what is stated at the new RAP website on the overview pages….those concerned about the military backing….it is here in black and white that they do indeed have the blessing of the military….check this out…..

    http://www.restoreamericaplan.net/index.php?cID=132

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    After a year of face-to-face negotiations with high-ranking members of the armed forces of the united States of America, the leaders of the freedom movement have joined together to bring you a four step comprehensive remedy—the Restore America Plan—whereby the military has agreed to follow the orders of the legitimate de jure government upon proper restoration and execution.

    To be clear, this is not a typical patriot “remedy.” The four step Restore America Plan was proposed by high-ranking members of the military who are tired of taking orders from a corporate CEO, and who recognize the People as the last chance to avoid a third world war. In fulfilling the call to action, the Guardian Elders who wrote the Declaration and designed the implementation plan are prepared, with your assistance, to

    restore the one true sovereign authority on the land

    once and for all, as the only lawful government of the United States of America in truth and in the eyes of the military commanders. As you will see when you read the one page Declaration and the Warrants and
    Orders attached thereto, the remedy is already won, even before it begins. By its very nature, the mere act of re-inhabiting the de jure institutions of law creates the victory we have all been seeking. Actors throughout the United States Federal Corporation understand they must ultimately defer to the de jure authority. The remedy is self-actualizing.

  9. Jacqlyn Smith

    I hope Mario and Charles meet with one of the Guardians…..I think they could learn a few things from them……at least on how to gain appropriate jurisdiction and standing!!!

  10. Palin speaks out in favor and support of Steele- puke.
    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2489022/posts#comment

  11. So now Palin supports the dream team of Perry, McCain and Steele…
    so far not so good

  12. Kim,
    Three strikes is all it takes for me.

  13. There’s seems to be more attention drawing on the eligibility issue between LTC Lakin and the Kerchner case. One message that we should all be hammering right now, to cut through the Obot negativity is simple one of FULL DISCLOSURE. There’s no question that Obama, the state of Hawaii, the Texas election board or whoever is involved, have all been in some form or antoher hiding, suppressing or ignoring evidence. A unified, but powerful message of demanding full disclosure would help cut through the noise and get to the truth. All we want is full disclosure.

  14. Jacqlyn Smith

    Palin is a registered Republican and a former Republican Governor and very much in the limelight…she doesn’t have much choice but to support who is there….supporting leaders of a party is part of the game….just like with the DemoCRAP party! IMO Steele is getting a bad rap simply because the American people are awake and are not supporting any party right now…..he is being judged on his inability to raise funds…..most informed folks are not contributing to a party anymore but rather a candidate as we have seen in the case of Scott Brown, Rubio, West and others……at this point in time I don’t envy anyone trying to lead the RINO’s or the DemoCRAPS…..I don’t care if they put who they put as the face of the parties…..NO one is going to raise much money for either party right NOW given the political climate of both!!!

  15. Jacqlyn Smith

    Suppose to be……I don’t care who they put as the face of the parties…..NO one is going to raise much money for either party right NOW given the political climate of both!!!

  16. ksdb…………………………………………….
    To the extent of your knowledge has anyone,or entity brought any actions against the FED for full disclosure,and failure to comply with FOIA requests by various organisations, and persons?

  17. JS,
    Your statement is correct, and as governor, Palin was an acive and willing part of the corporation. Palin knows the game, she is playing it. She also has the support of the Tea Party, emmense support. If she truly stands with the people, she will drop the republicans who are conspirators with the dems, and run as an independant or Tea Party candidate. I can’t explain away her actions as McCain or Republican Party loyalty, she must be loyal to “We the People” and the Constitution to gain my confidence.

    As for Steele, he lost me when he played the race card, which he did again as reported today. Evidence, when push comes to shove, they are all the same. Please understand I respect your view, I only differ in mine and wish for others to draw a line in the sand and expect uncompromised Patriotism and loyalty from our leaders, America is on the edge.

  18. ksdb………………..
    I personally believe that the failure of the US Government to comply with many requests by many people, and entities for information under the constraints of FOIA, and their failure to make full disclosure is all illegal, and actionable. I believe that this needs to happen if fo no other reason than BEING ON RECORD for reference in future actions, which there is a very high probability of happening.

  19. #

    bob strauss // April 8, 2010 at 9:39 am

    also jbjd has perfected the case of election fraud in the state of Texas and exposed the democratic party, led by Boyd Richie, putting Obama on the ballot. We need to make these issues go viral. Things are heating up on the NBC issue right now, so this might be the time to spread the word, and email these stories world wide.
    ***************************************************
    Apples and oranges. At this time, only the Republican Party of Texas can bring the court case I outlined in my latest post, predicated on the ruling in RPT v. TDP decided in 2006. (Orly Taitz and Gary Kreep had this case in 2008 in Keyes v. Bowen, in CA; but the law used in TDP v. RPT is Texas state law. They erroneously tried to apply that in CA. Evidently, they failed to appreciate its value in a Texas court.) Anyway, my focus is not on what lawsuits OTHERS may bring. Rather, it is on how to empower citizens to appreciate their roles as sovereigns and to do the work to learn as much about how our government and political process work as those who would use their superior knowledge to usurp our power.

    The latest post establishes, the R’s are as complicit as the D’s in enabling election fraud. Citizens in applicable need to file complaints of election fraud with their state A’sG, in essence, reporting, ‘A crime has been committed in our state! Investigate!
    JUDGE ABBOTT WOULD ORDER TDP CHAIR BOYD RICHIE TO DECLARE PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE BARACK OBAMA IS INELIGIBLE FOR THE JOB

  20. “A political party cannot be all things to all people. It must represent certain fundamental beliefs which must not be compromised to political expediency, or simply to swell its numbers.

    I do not believe I have proposed anything that is contrary to what has been considered Republican principle. It is at the same time the very basis of conservatism. It is time to reassert that principle and raise it to full view. And if there are those who cannot subscribe to these principles, then let them go their way.”

    -Ronald Reagan

  21. SapphireSunday

    Jacqlyn Smith: I’m with you on the Palin/Steele situation. The powers-that-be in the dinosaur part of the Republican party are sabotaging Steele, for their own reasons. Somebody leaked that financial info about the lesbian bar. Who? Only an insider would know the information. These are the same people who put Scozzafava, a RINO, on the ticket. These are the same people who allow themselves to be Alinskyed. They accept charges of racism and run out to apologize for it, when they ought to just call it like it is: Alinsky tactics by Marxists. These are the same sort of toads who tried to sabotage Palin. The same types who now tell Tea Partiers to “tone down the rhetoric” because they are so afraid of the lies and smears that the Alinsky accolytes throw at them. Instead of cowering in their PC world, they need to GROW SOME. And soon.

  22. JS,
    If Palin is playing the game and compromising to get to the top, she is damaged goods when she gets there. Her actions speak louder than her words.

  23. A comment I read at “American Thinker” blog:

    csarge 4/8/10 6:52 am,

    Thank you, Col. Lakin for taking this stand.
    As a former naval officer, I appreciate the sacrifice you are making for our country.
    I think the time has come for all of us to take a stand against this menance to the Constitution and the Liberty that we all hold dear. Every day he brings this country closer to destruction.
    We cannot wait for 2012, there will be nothing left to save by then.

  24. Linda from NY

    “Who I Am Makes A Difference®” Blue Ribbons

    http://www.makeadifference.com/TYG/BR01.php

    Please watch this video; for me, it brings many people who frequent this blog to mind…Thank you all!

    http://www.blueribbonmovie.com/

    God Bless…Linda

  25. Just recieved this e-mail;

    The latest telephone poll taken by the Texas Governor’s office asked
    whether people who live in Texas think illegal immigration is a
    serious problem.

    29% of respondents answered: “Yes, it is a serious problem.”

    71% of respondents answered: “No es una problema seriosa.”

  26. Jacqlyn Smith

    #

    Prairie // April 8, 2010 at 10:23 am

    JS,
    Your statement is correct, and as governor, Palin was an acive and willing part of the corporation. Palin knows the game, she is playing it. She also has the support of the Tea Party, emmense support. If she truly stands with the people, she will drop the republicans who are conspirators with the dems, and run as an independant or Tea Party candidate. I can’t explain away her actions as McCain or Republican Party loyalty, she must be loyal to “We the People” and the Constitution to gain my confidence.

    As for Steele, he lost me when he played the race card, which he did again as reported today. Evidence, when push comes to shove, they are all the same. Please understand I respect your view, I only differ in mine and wish for others to draw a line in the sand and expect uncompromised Patriotism and loyalty from our leaders, America is on the edge.
    (((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((

    Do you have proof that she is an active and willing part of the corporation….I don’t believe so…….I think there are a lot of leaders in the dark on this…..Even some of the present Governors serving may not have known what was going on….remember…..Palin is not an attorney…..she was just an ordinary citizen mom when she decided she didn’t like what was going on in her state government….I don’t know that she is that informed….I don’t have that proof but if you do I would like to see it…..just like many of us weren’t so informed year or so ago….I don’t see her as someone who would blatantly sell her country out on purpose….she is too much of a Patriot….until I know she is so informed I will continue to be one of her biggest supporters….as Patriots we may differ on who we support but the cause is still the same!! Also….Tim Turner said last night you are not going to hear these Governors come out about what is going on….they are sort of under a gag order so even if she knew things I doubt she would talk!!

  27. Can a foreign power with whom Soetoro has signed agreements with bring action in the World court requiring him to prove the LEGALITY of his PRESIDENCY. (ie; His legal right to sign agreements with a foreign power, because of the probability of him NOT BEING A LEGAL PRESIDENT, AND THEREFORE NOT HAVING THE RIGHT, OR AUTHORITY TO ACT AS PRESIDENT, AND IN SO DOING COMMITTING FRAUD AGAINST ANY,AND/OR ALL FOREIGN GOVERNMENTS.

  28. Jacqlyn Smith

    #

    SapphireSunday // April 8, 2010 at 10:35 am

    Jacqlyn Smith: I’m with you on the Palin/Steele situation. The powers-that-be in the dinosaur part of the Republican party are sabotaging Steele, for their own reasons. Somebody leaked that financial info about the lesbian bar. Who? Only an insider would know the information. These are the same people who put Scozzafava, a RINO, on the ticket. These are the same people who allow themselves to be Alinskyed. They accept charges of racism and run out to apologize for it, when they ought to just call it like it is: Alinsky tactics by Marxists. These are the same sort of toads who tried to sabotage Palin. The same types who now tell Tea Partiers to “tone down the rhetoric” because they are so afraid of the lies and smears that the Alinsky accolytes throw at them. Instead of cowering in their PC world, they need to GROW SOME. And soon.
    ******************************************

    Exactly…..with the Lame Stream media you don’t trust what any of them say…..someone is setting Steele up and it is probably within the party I would guess….just as they did to Palin because she doesn’t play the elite games they want her too…..that is why I disagree with folks here who keep harping that Palin isn’t any different than the other Repubs….she is different in that she will expose the corruption if she knows about it and she can….the elite RINO’s have been trying to push her out of the party for a while now…..ever since she took down her own party in Alaska…..we have a Pal in Palin…..that’s for sure!!!

  29. American Thinker HAS reconsidered:
    =========
    From comments section of Mar. 28 article (Permalink to comment not working).

    “Mrs. Rondeau replies: We were told by a writer for AT who has also contributed here that several weeks ago, AT had officially stopped accepting anything about Obama’s eligibility. We would hope that AT would not be censoring their writers’ contributions, but the person who told us was in a position to know. So the article you referenced may be the last one they published on the subject. Let’s hope they reconsider that position and seek the truth about the biggest constitutional crisis this nation has faced since the Civil War.”
    ———
    “President Obama Needs to Prove His Constitutional Eligibility to Be Commander-in-Chief”

    By Terrence Lakin, MD

    http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/04/president_obama_needs_to_prove_1.html

  30. Going back down again:

    The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Thursday shows that 28% of the nation’s voters Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as President. Forty-two percent (42%) Strongly Disapprove giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of -14.

  31. Jacqlyn Smith

    #

    Prairie // April 8, 2010 at 10:35 am

    JS,
    If Palin is playing the game and compromising to get to the top, she is damaged goods when she gets there. Her actions speak louder than her words.
    *******************************************

    P….I don’t believe Palin is playing their games…..she is just trying to get her country back to it’s former republic and restore some ethics to her party!!

  32. It seems to me that any,or all foreign governments that have signed working agreements with Soetoro should demand that he be summoned into the World Court via international lawsuit,requireing him to either prove who, and what he is, and his right to hold the office of POTUS. This would also include his qualifications to hold that office,along with his eligibility. If he refuses then any foreign power will have the right to TERMINATE any,and all agreements that they have signed with the alleged representative of the US Government.. In addition they would have the right to sue the United States Government,Congress, and the US Supreme Court for installing an illegitimate President.(Representative of US Government). I believe that these governments should file such action forthwith.

  33. Linda(r) @ 6:58 AM (previous post)

    Catching up, Linda!

    You asked for a comment on the piece you posted with comments by Dr. Arie Friedman regarding the H1N1 debacle.

    The Doctor is spot on!

    First of all, let me say that it’s a blessing that the gub’mint muffed the distribution of this poison, or we’d all be up the creek.

    Everything starts at the local level, and escalates accordingly; this holds true for emergencies and health issues alike. Now, your seasonal flu clinics are run by your Health Department in your city or town. They order the vaccine, put out a notice when flu clinics will be held, and you go (if you want).

    Enter the gub’mint and their bastid child, the CDC to ‘distribute’ the H1N1 vaccine. Miserable failure; they couldn’t get out of their own way. ‘Pandemics’ know no season and can occur at any time of the year, so they proceeded to scare the pants off the public by telling them they HAD to get this shot (formerly, two shots) when the vaccine wasn’t even close to being ready; not enough time for testing, and not enough time to evaluate whether or not it was safe.

    The pressure was put on the vaccine manufacturers to ‘get it done’ and we see the result: an untested, unproven vaccine that containes animal cancer cells, among other nasty ingredients.

    Get it out there!

    Meanwhile, the public is panicked because they’re being told they MUST get this shot, but it’s nowhere to be found.

    By some miracle, all of a sudden, it becomes available. By this time, people who have been affected are fighting the virus on their own; those not affected are refusing the sudden supply of shots. Vaccines sit at distribution points, unwanted. As we saw, this was repeated in Europe with millions of shots just sitting there. Nice job, WHO!

    This is what happens when the gub’mint starts calling the shots. If the ‘pandemic’ had been handled on the local level (where everything begins) we wouldn’t have seen this mess with H1N1; let the locals handle it-that’s what they do.

    As usual, the gub’mint makes a mess of things. If anyone needs more proof, just look at the U.S. Postal Service.

    I rest my case.

    P.S. We’re finding it VERY curious that there have been very few cases of seasonal flu reported this year. This is unusual, because we should be at the end of the 2009-10 flu season. Nary a whimper. It’s thought that H1N1 may have taken over seasonal flu however, far less have been affected with H1N1 than in a typical seasonal flu year. Hmmm……

  34. If there is strong enough evidence, or the US fails to prove Soetoro’s qualifications, he should be immediately charged with war crimes, and subpoened in to the World Court for prosecution.

  35. SapphireSunday

    Thanks for the link to the American Thinker article. Interesting thing: The link to Doctor/Lt. Col. Lakin’s website is “blocked”.

  36. GORDO……………………
    It would seem that the American Thinker has received it’s first payment.and/or threat from Soetoro.

  37. JS,
    My fear is that if Palin allows herself to become a tool of the republican party (knowingly or unknowingly), she will not be able to break from the chains of the corporate entity herself. They will have “stock” in her rise and therefore her ability to lead us out of this hell. Her choices concern me, I was a tremendous supporter as well, now I am a wait and see. This is my view of any leader the party puts forth at this time because I don’t trust the parties. I am not trying to be confrontational, as you state, our goals are the same- free and sovereign people of a constitutional government. Peace.

  38. Citizen Carlyle

    To the South and others from last thread:

    Yes, I have listened to much of the “training” and read a lot of text. That is exactly why I think it is nonsense. I mean, come on already, what makes these guys worthy of being blindly followed? Are they demigods? How to you know they are not con artists? As far as 100 hours, I don’t know – but quality of research trumps hours.

    I repeat that none of us here has the wherewithal to vet these people. The only thing we can realistically do is to wait and see if they can actually DO anything difficult – or if any of their seemingly bizarre predictions come true.

    Sure (as Jac. Smith likes to say) they are “real”. I have no doubt they exist and are doing some of what they say they are doing. That is not the point. The proof is whether their theories pan out and whether they have any power.

    Let’s wait and see.

    Further I am concerned that we are our own worst enemy. Certain personalities seem to be attracted to conspiracy theories like a moth to a flame – even to the point of seeing conspiracy theories where there are none. These types earn the designation of Tin Hat. This label is then used to smear anybody who identifies an actual conspiracy.

    We each owe it to our own dignity to be properly skeptical. And we owe it to the rest of the “community” to not poison the communal well.

    I enjoy and appreciate your posting of new and novel ideas. I do feel however that by prematurely endorsing these ideas (as opposed to watchful waiting) you are making it very difficult for the rest of us to maintain the credibility and get the traction we need.

    Please think through how your actions portray yourselves and splatter collateral damage on the rest of us.

  39. JS,
    I did say “active and willing” without proof. I should have said knowing or unknowingly participating in.

  40. Citizen Don in California

    Has anyone noticed that Jindal is being pushed for the gop presidential canidate? We all know he is not a NBC and not qualified. Why is he being pushed? Is it to trap the gop due to o not being qualified like mccain wasn’t qualified either. Kinda looks like they are trying to sneak around the Constitution.

  41. Linda from NY @ 7:52 am
    Jacqlyn Smith @7:30 am
    I really liked the Dylan Ratigan video, but I saw the same explanation before it was by Eliot Spitzer.
    I think if Mr. Spitzer assembled a team-his accounting people, lawyer people they could get this entire mess solved. Does he really want to go back into politics, I think he could do more good work from the outside.
    Goldman-Sachs keeps trying to tell people they are the smartest guys in the room, I think if they are so smart how did they create this mess, the only other answer is they are corrupt. If I were Eliot I would want to know the answer to that and who were the other players? I believe Mr. Spitzer likes a challenge, he has the moxie to pull if off, WE THE PEOPLE like underdogs, welcome to our world Mr. Spitzer. Any opposition can’t do any worse to Mr. Spitzer than already has been done and I know he has got to be a totally different person now than he was before. This could be very interesting, enlightening and fun. These bankers need to be held accountable and quit hiding behind and covering up for each other. Are they not Americans too?

  42. Citizen Don in California

    oldsalt78 // April 8, 2010 at 11:26 am
    ///////////////////
    The link in AT doesn’t work, but you can go directly to the site by doing a search for American Patriot Foundation. I found the following works.
    http://www.safeguardourconstitution.com/

  43. Citizen Don in California // April 8, 2010 at 11:34 am

    Hi Don,

    Still a few aftershocks, eh? Sit tight!

    Don’t know which article I went to yesterday (it was linked here) but I did leave a comment to the effect that Jindal wasn’t an NBC, either, and that we already had one of those squatting in the White House.

    Just from reading that article (where you could vote for your choice) it became crystal clear that the Constitution doesn’t matter. Doesn’t matter at all.

  44. oldsalt, IMO, Obama has committed fraud. It’s an impeachable offense and he should be tossed out on his butt ASAP. The biggest indicator is the certificate number on the factcheck photos of the alleged COLB. With enough public pressure for full disclosure from the HI DOH, I think it’s possible to expose that number and Obama as fraudulent.

    The Kerchner and Lakin cases give us the opportunity to point out that Hawaii is hiding the truth about the certificate number and that Americans deserve to have full disclosure of that number as well as all the facts and all the records.

  45. Citizen Carlyle

    Let me give you all an example relevant to our main issue here. This is what we should all focus on.

    I have no conspiracy theory about Obama. I do not know his background or his specific birth details. So I do not try to speculate or push one point of view or another.

    I think what we DO know and is painfully obvious are a few things such as:

    1. No one vetted him.

    2. There are no credible documents available.

    3. Obama, his goons, and the Obots are fighting like mad (and at great expense) to avoid releasing any information.

    4. Many illegal and fraudulent things happened as concerned the election – above and beyond the lack of documents and vetting.

    5. We The (sovereign) People have a right to know this stuff – Obama works for us and at our pleasure.

    6. The veracity (not only facts, but authorship) of his two books is VERY questionable.

    7. According to his self-authored legend, his father is Kenyan, Obama was born with multiple citizenships, and that alone makes him not NBC. (But of course, his legend may be wrong.)

    8. Again, because of his self-legend, his current citizenship is questionable and unknown.

    9. There are a number of legitimate questions about his passports, his comings and goings, foreign intrigue, Logan Act, etc.

    To me, things like these are the key issues. Further there are no outlandish or speculative accusations. I understand why no one in the MSM would jump on the ‘birther’ bandwagon. However, I do not understand why they will not pursue the above types of legitimate questions.

    At a minimum, they are curiosities and worthy of air time. Neither do I expect the MSM to willy nilly agree with any of the previous or current lawsuits. But the fact that there are so many is certainly newsworthy. I mean, they report on H/C lawsuits, why not report on lawsuits seeking to obtain FOIA, UPA, and other documents and background information.

    It’s almost as if they were afraid of what they might find out?

  46. OldSalt,
    I am afraid foreign countries would be, and are proving to be, more inclined to use their info as blackmail- seems to be what is happening.

  47. Citizen Carlyle

    Citizen Don in California // April 8, 2010 at 11:34 am

    Has anyone noticed that Jindal is being pushed for the gop presidential canidate? We all know he is not a NBC and not qualified.

    ==============================

    Yes, we must all scream bloody hell. We must prove that we are non-partisan and not just anti-Obama. This is a good way to demonstrate that we are indeed constitutionalists.

  48. Citizen Don in California

    SueK // April 8, 2010 at 11:39 am
    ///////////////
    Yes, we’re still rocking and rolling. ha!

    I think I read it on the Hillbuzz site. Not sure though.

    He is also listed as a possible run in 2012 on the http://www.freedomslighthouse.com/ site.

  49. Carlyle,
    I understand why no one in the MSM would jump on the ‘birther’ bandwagon.
    ************************
    It is their silence that has created the rise of theories and “conspiracies” to explain the day to day chaos. Now the wagon is in full gear, they need to jump on board or get the hell out of the way.

  50. Linda from NY

    SueK // April 8, 2010 at 11:14 am

    Thanks, Suey! As usual, you are right on top of the whole debacle with a seasoned response for the “uneducated” here [all right, just me].

    Fabulous analysis of what happened and what should have happened! You never cease to amaze me with your sharp whit and mind. No matter if the body is a bit unwilling; your mind is sharp as a tack!

    Thanks so much for being you…Linda 🙂

  51. Jacqlyn Smith

    Citizen Carlyle // April 8, 2010 at 11:29 am

    To the South and others from last thread:

    Yes, I have listened to much of the “training” and read a lot of text. That is exactly why I think it is nonsense. I mean, come on already, what makes these guys worthy of being blindly followed? Are they demigods? How to you know they are not con artists? As far as 100 hours, I don’t know – but quality of research trumps hours.

    ******************************************

    CC….You can wait and see all you want….I am in action mode…..I am actively getting knowledge and learning what we need to do to take our country back…..maybe you haven’t researched enough to be sure that things aren’t right and haven’t been for many years…..I have and am going to follow the plan the Guardians have laid out on the advice of high ranking military folks….I hope others will do the same thing but you must feel comfortable in your decision….I am!!!

  52. oldsalt78 @ 11:13 am
    Old Salt you got me thinking re: International Law-I found this-The Nuremberg War Trails.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspiracy_(crime)
    Conspiracy and international law
    Conspiracy law was used at the Nuremberg Trials for Nazi leadership who were charged with participating in a “conspiracy or common plan” to commit international crimes. This was controversial because conspiracy was not a part of the European civil law tradition. Nonetheless, the crime of conspiracy continued in international criminal justice, being incorporated into the international criminal laws against genocide.
    It should however be noted, that of the Big Five, only the French Republic exclusively subscribed to the civil law; the USSR subscribed to the socialist law, the U.S. and the U.K. followed the common law; and the Republic of China did not have a cause of action at this particular proceeding.

  53. Linda from NY

    Michelle // April 8, 2010 at 11:37 am

    Hey, Chelley, how are ya?

    When Eliot Spitzer was a prosecutor, he was my hero! When he was Governor of NY, not so much because he wanted to give illegal aliens licenses.

    I wish he had stayed a prosecutor; he would have done more good in that profession than he did as Governor.

    As far as the law is concerned, Spitzer is our “ace” in the whole only if he is willing to leave his political party behind. Right now, the Dem party is a like a venomous snake that feeds on anything that is not nailed down IMHO.

    If he left the part, I say yes he would be dynamite in the courtroom to hand down indictments and convictions on the corruption that is rampant in our governments; be they local, county, state, and federal.

    What he does in the public domain is entirely up to him; he has already taken the first step. How far he will go with his “new” exposure is up to him and/or anyone who would hire him, I think.

    You are so correct in your assessment; he would do far better from the outside. That is where he started and IMHO, that is where he belongs. Let’s hope he takes the second step.

    Thanks for your thoughts…Linda 🙂

  54. Jacqlyn Smith

    #

    Prairie // April 8, 2010 at 11:29 am

    JS,
    My fear is that if Palin allows herself to become a tool of the republican party (knowingly or unknowingly), she will not be able to break from the chains of the corporate entity herself. They will have “stock” in her rise and therefore her ability to lead us out of this hell. Her choices concern me, I was a tremendous supporter as well, now I am a wait and see. This is my view of any leader the party puts forth at this time because I don’t trust the parties. I am not trying to be confrontational, as you state, our goals are the same- free and sovereign people of a constitutional government. Peace.
    *******************************************

    P…I don’t worry about any of this for Palin because she is her own person and is not bought and sold….that is one thing I am convinced of about her…..furthermore she is a God fearing caring human being…..she is not about to knowingly sell out her country and her children’s future for any kind of fame or greed….I heard yesterday that Tina Fey is coming back to do Palin again….I’m sure she will help the Lame Stream media sell more propaganda about Palin and her family…they are all so demonic and evil…..I hope they all burn in hell for what they are putting good Americans and Patriots through!

  55. Citizen Carlyle……………………….
    You make a true ,and proper point. Unfortunately time is NOT on our side to WAIT AND WATCH. That mistake has been made in the past MANY times. In essence by Neville Chamberlain, for one. If we had infinite time on our side then it stands to reason to simply let Soetoro go on doing what he is doing.But you might consider converting to Islam if this is to be the choice. I for one do not hold with having Soetoro’s ideas of how I should live rammed down my throat,nor do I feel as though I am willing to accept being ORDERED by the Federal Government to buy the alleged healthcare that they are trying to put upon us BY FORCE. I mean no offense to you in what I have just said. This is just my own personal belief. I also respect your belief as well. As for a TIN HAT, I own a STEEL WW2 Infantry Helmet, and helmet liner. The STEEL helmet is the HAT that I prefer in these times, and in the times that I perceive are COMING. If that labels me as Militia NUT CASE so be it. I have also participated in the LEGAL operations of the alleged military NUT CASE organisations that now are designated as such,by the OBOTS. This is first,.. Service Company, 293rd Infantry Regiment,H&S Battalion, 38th Division, Indiana National Guard for about a year and a half. Then I transferred to active duty in the US Navy in 1951 for another four years, out of which I received an HONORABLE discharge, in 1955. The one thing that I learned early on in my military career is that the best DEFENSE is a SWIFT,regimented and well executed OFFENSE. I include this notion in my present day political beliefs as well.

  56. OldSalt,
    Salute!

  57. SapphireSunday

    Hey, Citizen Carlyle!

    About Palin, maybe she’s doing a little Alinsky dance, herself. You know, droppin the radical pose in order to achieve the “radical” ends?

    There is a system and, truth be told, to beat it one has to be within it. To infiltrate it.

    We know who she is. We know what she did in Alaska–stood up to the party and to corruption. We know that she means what she says and says what she means. As with Beck, please, cut her a little slack.

    Sometimes there’s a greater good to be served and everyone will choose his or her own means to best serve that end.

    This is the real world, not an ideal world (in which too many obots live). Conservatives, like the Founders, were practical people. People with their eyes wide open to reality. To the facts about human nature, which is why they wrote checks and balances into our system. We may not like the real world, but it’s the world within which we must live.

    So, yes, maybe it would be ideal if Beck would tackle the NBC issue, although he would have no more proof to work with than we do.

    And maybe it would be ideal if Palin turned her back on McCain and Steele.

    Imho, they’re both trying to live in the real world and deal with real problems the best way they think that they can and should. Doing their own thing while we do ours.

    So long as we’re all dedicated to the same goal, restoring our Republic, I won’t quibble about how others pull their share of the load.

    Stepping off soapbox now. Thanks for listening.

  58. Kim // April 8, 2010 at 9:57 am

    So now Palin supports the dream team of Perry, McCain and Steele…
    so far not so good
    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Keep your eyes and ears open-you’ll learn the true Palin, eventually……..all smoke and mirrors.

  59. Philo-Publius

    Citizen Don in California

    Has anyone noticed that Jindal is being pushed for the gop presidential canidate? We all know he is not a NBC and not qualified. Why is he being pushed?

    ———————
    Marco Rubio has also been mentioned as being the Conservative alternative to BHO and being groomed for President. Rubio was born in Miami, Florida, the son of exiles from Cuba. I don’t know when they become cizitens after arriving here so I need to do some more research.

  60. Jacqlyn Smith

    To me, things like these are the key issues. Further there are no outlandish or speculative accusations. I understand why no one in the MSM would jump on the ‘birther’ bandwagon. However, I do not understand why they will not pursue the above types of legitimate questions.

    (((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((

    Citizen Carlyle…..The above should be plenty of reason to realize that something is drastically wrong with our republic…..could it be we are not under our original constitution and haven’t been for many decades…..please research and you will know why what seems as legitimate questions to you and I……..will never be answered until the corruption in all the branches of our government is exposed and done away with…..this did not happen overnight and the solution is not going to happen overnight either….be vigilant and actively join the fight to take back your rights….don’t wait around for others to do it!!! Freedom isn’t FREE!!!

  61. Jacqlyn Smith

    #

    Philo-Publius // April 8, 2010 at 12:19 pm

    Citizen Don in California

    Has anyone noticed that Jindal is being pushed for the gop presidential canidate? We all know he is not a NBC and not qualified. Why is he being pushed?

    ———————
    Marco Rubio has also been mentioned as being the Conservative alternative to BHO and being groomed for President. Rubio was born in Miami, Florida, the son of exiles from Cuba. I don’t know when they become cizitens after arriving here so I need to do some more research.
    ******************************************

    I could be wrong….but I believe I heard Marco say he was born here after his parents became citizens…..if that is the case he is a “natural born” citizen!!

  62. SueK-Linda from NY-jbjd
    I was talking to a friend of mine last night about our fellow Americans in the NorthEast. The subject was disaster donations: all of America contributed to 9/11, Hurricane Katerina (the region), Earthquake in Haiti-and others. We still don’t know how bad it is there-how extensive the damage. Would there be enough donations locally?
    I’m sure that the people of the NorthEast were very generous in their donations during other catastrophes. Let us know what’s going on.

  63. Jacqlyn Smith

    #

    JJ // April 8, 2010 at 12:19 pm

    Kim // April 8, 2010 at 9:57 am

    So now Palin supports the dream team of Perry, McCain and Steele…
    so far not so good
    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Keep your eyes and ears open-you’ll learn the true Palin, eventually……..all smoke and mirrors.
    *******************************************

    JJ….where is your proof that Palin is all smoke and mirrors….are we back to bashing folks who are standing up to the FRAUD……I haven’t heard her say anything in support of the FRAUD’s agenda….in fact quite the opposite!!

  64. Patriot Dreamer

    SEIU assaults union supporter in hospital cafeteria

  65. Somebody leaked that financial info about the lesbian bar. Who? Only an insider would know the information
    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    I’m so insulted by this remark…….it had to have been there to have been leaked……..

    Sabotage???
    OH, please.

  66. Patriot Dreamer

    A couple of the posts in the previous thread asked about what could happen if we experience a currency change:

    “North Korea currency change sparks panic” article from December

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/8394987.stm

    devaluation of currency:
    “UPDATE 1-Devaluation ups stakes in Venezuela election year” article from January

    http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN096521320100109

  67. Citizen Don in California
    Has anyone noticed that Jindal is being pushed for the gop presidential canidate? We all know he is not a NBC and not qualified. Why is he being pushed?

    I’ve got a bad feeling…they might use obamacare as an excuse to call a Constitutional Convention then change the Constitution to allow these 14th amendment citizens to become president…what else could they change?
    I think we have to keep our eyes and ears open right now…

  68. JJ,
    And they must have made Steele say he was treated differently because of his race, much like Oboner.

  69. SapphireSunday

    JS: Agree with you.

    May I add that whenever I hear the usual obot talking points of the day, such as Palin is smoke and mirrors and Beck is only in it for the money, my obot radar starts ahumming.

    Just sayin’.

  70. Jacqlyn Smith

    #

    JJ // April 8, 2010 at 12:30 pm

    Somebody leaked that financial info about the lesbian bar. Who? Only an insider would know the information
    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    I’m so insulted by this remark…….it had to have been there to have been leaked……..

    Sabotage???
    OH, please.
    *****************************************
    JJ……why the insult….SapphireSunday was just telling it like she saw it….the media is making so much of this…..if it was a DNC chair you would not have heard a peep……and I agree with her….it was an inside job to get rid of Steele….just like they tried to shut up Palin!!! The fact that some one spoke their mind and obviously the truth should not be an insult!

  71. Linda from NY
    I would vote for Eliot, too smart, too talented to let these talents lie fallow.-I just like Eliot (I think he is obnoxious in a charming sort of way if that makes any sense)-I think a fall from grace can be a good thing, humbles and humanizes all of us. I’m far from perfect, and so is everyone I know. I have to get the new book as soon as it is published.
    http://www.aolnews.com/politics/article/eliot-spitzer-isnt-ruling-out-politics-forever/19431765
    Politics
    Eliot Spitzer Isn’t Ruling Out Politics Forever
    “I’ve never said I would never consider running for office again,” Spitzer told Fortune’s Peter Elkind, who has written a book, due out April 20, about his rise and fall from power.

  72. Michelle………………………
    In the time of my military career, I came to believe that ANYONE who in any way perpetrated an action either military or civil, against another country could be prosecuted in the International court, by the country having sufferred from such action. Particularly if it was executed against a country without justification,or foundation. Even a sitting legal POTUS could be prosecuted by a country if he attacked them without justification. Should Soetoro be proven as having illegally occupied the office of POTUS he could be PROSECUTED in the world court as having perpetrated war crimes against even Afghanistan,by sending troops there, or supporting those already there.

  73. JS,
    What if the inside job was done by someone who is on our side to “restore ethics” in the Republican Party? To out the Rinos? Perhaps we should be sending someone flowers.

  74. Linda from NY

    To those who are doubting “Palin’s Proper Posture,” I say “let your conscience be your guide.”

    To those who hypothesize “Palin’s Perspective Packs a Punch,” I say “go for it.”

    In other words, you are both correct in your thinking. Those who doubt have a right to doubt, and those who hypothesize have a right to their opinion.

    Sooo…please be open to the opposing opinion, if only to refrain from losing your “caution.”

    IMHO, people do what they need to do to survive in this diverse society. Even Jesus had dinner with the “tax collector” so that we may know he loves all equally and came here and suffered to save all; not just the righteous.

    IMHO, if one is living his/her Christian faith, one is kind to all not just those who think and act like you. And…are we not wise to keep our friends close and our enemies closer? Is Palin living her Christian faith or is she a Christian fake?

    Right now, you are all “free to decide.”

    Just trying to keep the Peace…Linda

  75. Jacqlyn Smith

    #

    SapphireSunday // April 8, 2010 at 12:36 pm

    JS: Agree with you.

    May I add that whenever I hear the usual obot talking points of the day, such as Palin is smoke and mirrors and Beck is only in it for the money, my obot radar starts ahumming.

    Just sayin’.
    *******************************************

    SS….I know what you mean but I know enough about JJ and Prairie to know they are not OBOTS…….Beck and Palin are doing what they see as right in exposing this administration for who and what they are…..they may not be doing everything to our liking but they certainly are NOT the enemy and should not be vilified as such by folks here who are on the same team side of the fight as these two Patriots….we are only hurting ourselves when we bicker over who should be stepping up to do what NOW!!! JMO 🙂

  76. SapphireSunday // April 8, 2010 at 12:36 pm

    JS: Agree with you.

    May I add that whenever I hear the usual obot talking points of the day, such as Palin is smoke and mirrors and Beck is only in it for the money, my obot radar starts ahumming.

    Just sayin’.
    *****************************
    I don’t blindly support Palin for a race in 2012 that will never happen if we don’t get our country back. . . and I am an obot. Go Alinsky on someone else.

  77. As for those of us who express our ideas or beliefs, we do so in the interest of the ongoing thread. Some of us may bring a narrow consensus into the thread, but right or wrong,provocative or lame, it is our BELIEF. For those who feel that we should refrain from this I simply answer by advising them to tell Citizen Wells to dismiss us from the blog. That should be simple enough. When CW tells me that he wants me to leave this blog I will immediately comply.

  78. oldsalt78 @ 12:38 pm
    “Even a sitting legal POTUS could be prosecuted by a country if he attacked them without justification”
    Him personally, not the citizens of the US actually and incidentally?

  79. Linda from NY

    Michelle // April 8, 2010 at 12:37 pm

    Chelley, Dear Soul…you are so comforting! The Lord has taught you well…

    “I think a fall from grace can be a good thing, humbles and humanizes all of us. I’m far from perfect, and so is everyone I know.”

    Of course, it is! And…it does humble and humanize all of us. As humans, we can aspire to perfection, but I doubt we will ever attain it since that is God’s domain.

    A good friend made me chuckle when he said, “I know we are both perfect, but I wonder about you!” lol Guess some are more perfect than others…

    Good points…well taken…think I will look for the book, too…sounds interesting.

    Peace Be With You, Friend…Linda

  80. Citizen Don in California

    Kim // April 8, 2010 at 12:33 pm
    ///////////////////
    A Constitutional Convention could change the entire Constitution. It could do away with the POTUS requirement of NBC, change the 1st and 2nd Amendments etc. Of course the Bill of Rights are only listed as God given so they can’t really get rid of them. But the rest of the Constitution would be up for grabs to be changed however they wanted.

    Got to be careful of Constitutional Conventions.

  81. Patriot Dreamer

    Don’t know if this has been posted or not, but:

    “New Evidence Proves Obama Was Not Honest About Membership In the Chicago Socialist Party”

    http://gatewaypundit.firstthings.com/2010/04/new-evidence-proves-obama-was-not-honest-about-membership-in-chicago-socialist-party/

  82. Citizen Don in California

    OT but I am proud of Hobby Lobby!!
    ///////////////
    http://www.onenewsnow.com/Culture/Default.aspx?id=964126

    Hobby Lobby begets Bible museum
    Allie Martin – OneNewsNow – 4/8/2010 5:40:00 AMA nationally known arts-and-crafts store chain has been purchasing rare Bibles and other manuscripts to fill a proposed National Bible Museum.

    Hobby Lobby recently announced it had been collecting a variety of materials, such as Hebrew scrolls, medieval manuscripts, and an assortment of Bibles and rare books, since partnering with a group that came up with the idea for the museum.

    Steve Green, president of the Oklahoma-based company, says tentative plans call for a 300,000-square-foot facility to be located in a major metropolitan area that would provide an interactive history of the Bible.

  83. Jacqlyn Smith

    #

    Prairie // April 8, 2010 at 12:39 pm

    JS,
    What if the inside job was done by someone who is on our side to “restore ethics” in the Republican Party? To out the Rinos? Perhaps we should be sending someone flowers.
    ******************************************

    P….I don’t believe that is the case…..Steele has done nothing wrong…..he didn’t go to that strip bar…..he didn’t authorize that money to be spent there……he only found out about it like you and I…..the Lame Stream media….I heard two Repubs talking on this last night….one is a regular commenter on CNN and of course he was the one saying he was all for getting rid of Steele….the red flag went up for me listening to him…..he kept saying too many things have been going wrong under Steele’s leadership…..I wonder why is that……I’m sure just as many things are going wrong on the DNC side as well….in fact the other Repub on the show outed the DemoCRAPS spending of $6,000 at a strip club compared to the $1,600 reported by the RNC….I hadn’t heard of the DNC spending have you??? The media is spinning this Steele leadership way out of proportion….you need to ask yourself why…..I believe the elite RINO’s are in on this too……Steele is not one of them….neither is Palin!

  84. Patriot Dreamer………………………
    Thie video shows the classic behavior of a SEIU P-I-G in action. This also clearly demonstrates her mental level.

  85. Citizen Carlyle

    oldsalt78 // April 8, 2010 at 12:38 pm

    Michelle………………………
    In the time of my military career, I came to believe that ANYONE who in any way perpetrated an action either military or civil, against another country could be prosecuted in the International court
    ===========================

    Fortunately the US does not recognize the superiority of the International Courts over American citizens. I suppose someone in power could ‘give’ someone to the International Courts, but they cannot come and get us.

    But be very careful and aware. One of Obama’s dreams (and Hillary too I think) is to sign treaties what would give International Court jurisdiction over US. This is a key part of their globalization plans.

  86. Jacqlyn Smith

    I don’t blindly support Palin for a race in 2012 that will never happen if we don’t get our country back. . . and I am an obot. Go Alinsky on someone else.

    *********************************************

    Prairie….did you mean to say you are NOT an obot???

  87. SapphireSunday

    JJ said, “I’m so insulted by this remark.”

    Insulted? Insulted?!!! What makes you personally insulted by a comment about the inner workings of the RNC?

    Of course the information exists. It has to exist in order to be leaked. But the truth remains that only an insider is privy to that information and for someone to deliberately leak it in order to damage Steele certainly smells like sabotage.

    So Steele, personally, is supposed to be responsible for expenses some low-level person out in CA ran up at a reportedly lesbian bar? It’s a HUGE scandal? Why?

    I’m not defending Steele and I don’t like his use of the race card, either. I don’t care one way or the other about him. The RNC is basically irrelevant at this point. They’re being left behind.

    But somebody is going after him for a reason and it’s not because some guys in CA spent money in a gay bar.

    I’m only pointing out that nothing is as it seems, especially in the lamestream media.

    JS: Thanks for defending me. I’m not an obot, either. I’ll take your word for it about JJ and Prairie.

    Prairie: I’m not blindly supporting Palin, either. Neither am I doing an “Alinsky on” anyone.

    Whose blog is this, anyway? Do you have power to ban people? Or invite them to leave?

    If Citizen Wells says so, I’ll bow out. CW, you make the call.

    I thought people in this country are free to comment. I suppose not. Some would rather insult and censor than to honestly debate.

    About obots, if the shoe fits, wear it.

  88. Patriot Dreamer

    Saw this video by “VidSweet” over at HillBuzz:

  89. Citizen Carlyle

    Jacqlyn Smith // April 8, 2010 at 12:20 pm

    Indeed, there are MANY questions. Many strange things have happened. The legislature may be partly at fault. Certainly the Supreme Court over the years has invoked penumbras and emanations (their words, not mine) of the constitution to essentially gut the constitution.

    However none of that proves anything about “corporations”, “two constitutions”, “strawmans”, etc. etc.

    All good questions and worthy of research and learning. Way premature, however, to “buy into” any of that. At least not without some SERIOUS analysis and legal guidance.

  90. SapphireSunday

    CW, JS, and Linda: I’m sorry if I disturbed the peace. I didn’t mean to. Linda, thanks. I agree with you, too.

  91. Jacqlyn Smith

    #

    Linda from NY // April 8, 2010 at 12:42 pm

    To those who are doubting “Palin’s Proper Posture,” I say “let your conscience be your guide.”

    To those who hypothesize “Palin’s Perspective Packs a Punch,” I say “go for it.”

    In other words, you are both correct in your thinking. Those who doubt have a right to doubt, and those who hypothesize have a right to their opinion.

    Sooo…please be open to the opposing opinion, if only to refrain from losing your “caution.”

    IMHO, people do what they need to do to survive in this diverse society. Even Jesus had dinner with the “tax collector” so that we may know he loves all equally and came here and suffered to save all; not just the righteous.

    IMHO, if one is living his/her Christian faith, one is kind to all not just those who think and act like you. And…are we not wise to keep our friends close and our enemies closer? Is Palin living her Christian faith or is she a Christian fake?

    Right now, you are all “free to decide.”

    Just trying to keep the Peace…Linda
    ******************************************

    I agree Linda….Let’s all work for the good of our country…..taking down the FRAUD is our #1 goal and that is certainly what all of us here want to do and millions of other Patriots are doing the same thing in their own ways with their own megaphones!!

  92. Jacqlyn Smith

    #

    Citizen Carlyle // April 8, 2010 at 1:02 pm

    Jacqlyn Smith // April 8, 2010 at 12:20 pm

    Indeed, there are MANY questions. Many strange things have happened. The legislature may be partly at fault. Certainly the Supreme Court over the years has invoked penumbras and emanations (their words, not mine) of the constitution to essentially gut the constitution.

    However none of that proves anything about “corporations”, “two constitutions”, “strawmans”, etc. etc.

    All good questions and worthy of research and learning. Way premature, however, to “buy into” any of that. At least not without some SERIOUS analysis and legal guidance.
    ******************************************

    CC….as I indicated before…..I am way past the wait and see….I have plenty of facts, research, analysis and guidance from my Creator the Lord Jesus Christ…etc. ….that tells me to get busy and actively involved…..NO MORE wait and see for me thank you!!

  93. Patriot Dreamer

    ****WARNING: the blog entry contains some adult language/profanity. Not safe for work.****

    OY: Michelle Obama Is On Cover Of Conde Nast Traveler Along With An Article That Should Be Titled ‘How To Give The First Family Verbal […]”

    http://www.weaselzippers.net/blog/2010/04/oy-michelle-obama-is-on-cover-of-conde-nast-traveler-along-with-an-article-that-should-be-titled-how.html#comments

  94. Citizen Carlyle

    oldsalt78 // April 8, 2010 at 12:12 pm

    I don’t disagree with anything you said. I don’t like watching and waiting either. But I am dead set against at chasing ghosts.

    I refuse to “take it to the enemy” unless the enemy has been properly identified. I believe Obama, Pelosi, and Reid are enemies. I believe that large parts of the Democrats are enemies. I believe that some Republicans are enemies.

    However, many of the things discussed here and endorsed here very suspicious and immature. Fighting ghosts or prematurely jumping on bandwagons of unknown and unvetted individuals and organizations is dangerous and counterproductive.

    I repeat a key observation: We like to mock people for being “drawn in” to Obama. But many here seemed as easily drawn in to other theories. Of all people, we here, should know the dangers of following unvetted movements.

    SIGH

  95. SS,
    This is getting childish, you called me an obot- remember those humming senses? You took it back. Then did it again. Make up your mind girl, I’m getting dizzy and the suspense is killing me.

  96. Jacqlyn Smith

    #

    SapphireSunday // April 8, 2010 at 1:04 pm

    CW, JS, and Linda: I’m sorry if I disturbed the peace. I didn’t mean to. Linda, thanks. I agree with you, too.
    *******************************************

    SS….I enjoy your perspective and NO apology necessary to me……hang in there….things are happening and the Lord is good to all who believe!!

    Psalms 31:1
    “In Thee, O Lord, do I put my trust; let me never be ASHAMED.”

  97. Patriot Dreamer // April 8, 2010 at 1:10 pm

    Awww, geeze, PD, that article was hysterical and the comments even funnier!

    Blue Hawaiian Punch now speckled on my white shirt…..but it was worth it!

    Thanks for the giggle :).

  98. Citizen Carlyle

    Jacqlyn Smith // April 8, 2010 at 12:03 pm

    CC….You can wait and see all you want….have laid out on the advice of high ranking military folks
    =============================

    You see, that is exactly the problem. You have no way of knowing that and neither do I. It sounds like a load of crock to me. There is NO notable military corroboration of this. I sincerely think it is wishful thinking on your part.

    Believing any of this sounds oddly similar to believing anything Obama says about himself. It sounds just like fancy talk to me. Why would you just BELIEVE these people.

    I want to see some proof and evidence.

  99. Patriot Dreamer

    SueK // April 8, 2010 at 1:16 pm

    I should have included a “barf alert”!

    😀

  100. I will stick with Sarah Palin. Our friends have
    known her for over 16 years and say she is good to her word as her parents are. That is good enough for us. I am a Democrat and voted for McCain/Palin. Sure happy I did. Also our boy is an officer in the Marines – they have no faith in Obama.

  101. Linda from NY

    SapphireSunday // April 8, 2010 at 1:04 pm

    “I’m sorry if I disturbed the peace. I didn’t mean to.”

    Please do not apologize…and remember, no one has the “power” to “disturb the peace!” We all have the power to “keep the peace,” though, and that is all I was asking everyone to do.

    Without expression and/or body language, our words are two-dimensional. Often times, we read and re-read what someone has said and still do not understand it completely.

    What we all [including you] do here [courtesy of CW], is present items for discussion, give our opinions, state the facts [if we have them], and try to help each other understand what is going on in our country and our world.

    We don’t always say the right things the right way, but we try to participate and help each other the best we know how to assist. We are “open” with our opinions because we are afforded that opportunity; we don’t usually say things to insult or discourage others from participating, but it happens sometimes.

    I am sure CW would say you are welcome here unless you come here to disrupt, criticize, and demean. Voicing an opinion shouldn’t bother anyone here…we all do it; sometimes, we are “dead” wrong or we have the wrong information, and we are “righted” by the group. That’s okay because it helps us grow in knowledge and grace.

    I am not the moderator here but if you were offensive in any way, I am sure you would be swiftly removed. Disagreeing with anyone is not IMHO a reason to discount someone.

    Peace Be With You…Linda

  102. SapphireSunday

    JS: Trying very hard to hang in there with you.

    Prairie said, “This is getting childish, you called me an obot- remember those humming senses? You took it back. Then did it again. Make up your mind girl, I’m getting dizzy and the suspense is killing me.”

    You know, Prairie, out of respect for JS I will accept the opinion that you are not an obot.

    However, you use very many of their same tactics. Such as, accusing others of being childish. Picking fights where it’s not necessary to do so. Escalating an argument in order to detract from the issue at hand. Telling someone that they did something that they did NOT do.

    Where did I “do it again?” I said, if the shoe fits, wear it. So, if it DOESN’T fit, then I assume you’re not wearing it.

    If you are wearing it (keeping in mind that you yourself also wrote that you are an obot), then you must be an obot because you’re wearing the shoe.

    If this logic makes your head spin, then I’m sorry. I await Citizen Wells’s proclamation. Perhaps I’ll be in good company with oldsalt78.

  103. LOL @ Prairie 1:10 p.m.

  104. Just got in. Hope all is well! Zach

    http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/2010/04/08/call-it-nbc-gate-from-now-on/

    Call it “Nbc-gate” from now on.
    The US Supreme Court in Minor v. Happersett and Wong Kim Ark stated:

    “The Constitution does not, in words, say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens…”

    Since Obama doesn’t fit that definition, he is not eligible to be President despite his place of birth.

    From now on, refer to this pending Constitutional showdown as “Nbc-gate”.

  105. Patriot Dreamer @ 1:10 pm
    Well, word fail me. Saccharine city. This magazine should go to the South Side of Chicago , and get the true view of Mr. & Mrs.
    How easily reporters are chumped and that is scary.

  106. Steele needs to go in my opinion. Not because of the icky scandal, but because he has failed to lead the Republican party in a way that makes me want to vote for it (as opposed to voting for the lesser evil). He is fighting the tea party people when he should be aligning the Republican party with the tea party ideals. Anyway, the proof is in the pudding- if he were being successful the RNC would be getting a lot more contributions.

  107. I’ve gotten the shoe fits, wear it treatment myself several times.
    It sounds like the parents on the Peanuts movies to me. Blah blah blah

  108. Jacqlyn Smith

    #

    Citizen Carlyle // April 8, 2010 at 1:19 pm

    Jacqlyn Smith // April 8, 2010 at 12:03 pm

    CC….You can wait and see all you want….have laid out on the advice of high ranking military folks
    =============================

    You see, that is exactly the problem. You have no way of knowing that and neither do I. It sounds like a load of crock to me. There is NO notable military corroboration of this. I sincerely think it is wishful thinking on your part.

    Believing any of this sounds oddly similar to believing anything Obama says about himself. It sounds just like fancy talk to me. Why would you just BELIEVE these people.

    I want to see some proof and evidence.
    *******************************************

    CC…..You have do what you think…..I am not trying to convince you….I’m just saying for me….I already know……some one high ranking is involved or these folks would all be in prison by now…..just think on it…..why aren’t they???

  109. SapphireSunday

    Linda, thanks, again. I am not trying to demean or disrupt. I will take your comments about missing body language, etc., to heart and try not to “incite” anything simply by voicing my opinion. I don’t believe that some of us are strangers. I believe that we were probably allies in another life. Perhaps the right side of life? Forgive me if I recognize what appear to be old sparring partners, too. Only CW may know for sure.

  110. Jacqlyn Smith

    #

    Fae // April 8, 2010 at 1:20 pm

    I will stick with Sarah Palin. Our friends have
    known her for over 16 years and say she is good to her word as her parents are. That is good enough for us. I am a Democrat and voted for McCain/Palin. Sure happy I did. Also our boy is an officer in the Marines – they have no faith in Obama.
    ******************************************

    Thanks Fae….for your insight….I too have an acquaintance that knows the Palins and the extended family….I actually met all of them when I helped a friend who ran the Republican campaign office here in Henderson…..they are all lovely people and very much Patriots like you and I!!!

  111. Patriot Dreamer

    “Sovereign debt crisis at ‘boiling point’, warns Bank for International Settlements”

    The Bank for International Settlements does not mince words. Sovereign debt is already starting to cross the danger threshold in the United States, Japan, Britain, and most of Western Europe, threatening to set off a bond crisis at the heart of the global economy.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/7564748/Sovereign-debt-crisis-at-boiling-point-warns-Bank-for-International-Settlements.html

  112. Jacqlyn Smith

    #

    Paulajal // April 8, 2010 at 1:30 pm

    Steele needs to go in my opinion. Not because of the icky scandal, but because he has failed to lead the Republican party in a way that makes me want to vote for it (as opposed to voting for the lesser evil). He is fighting the tea party people when he should be aligning the Republican party with the tea party ideals. Anyway, the proof is in the pudding- if he were being successful the RNC would be getting a lot more contributions.
    ******************************************

    Sorry Paula…I disagree….I don’t think anyone could raise money right now for either party…..too many people on both sides are against anyone coming off as a politician right now…..Steele is a good man and a Christian….He is being set up to take the fall for the Repubs not raising money….it is not his fault….it is the fault of the elite RINO’s who don’t want outsiders taking over…..he has never said he doesn’t support the tea party people….in fact the exact opposite……he has privately and publicly met with various leaders from the different tea party groups!! Don’t buy into what the media whores are spewing!!

  113. Jacqlyn Smith

    I am in agreeable with you and most of all our Lord is guiding them and us.

    Do not fear evil.
    Recognize it.
    Confront it.
    Defeat it.

    Let’s roll 🙂

  114. Patriot Dreamer // April 8, 2010 at 1:20 pm

    Well, PD, hindsight is 20/20 :).

    Just praying my lunch (and it was a good lunch) stays put!

    That article was total horse pucky (notice I’m being nice). Wonder how much Barky paid ’em to write it?

  115. Patriot Dreamer

    SueK // April 8, 2010 at 1:47 pm

    All the Kool-Aid they could drink??

    😉

  116. CC, and JS…Up to now everything they have said is true in fact. Why would anyone not believe what they say. In fact they aare not happy with all the attention and are not “trying” to convince anybody of anything.

  117. Jacqlyn Smith

    Greg….I know that…..I am not waiting on anything…are you???

  118. I am ending this ugly spat with a quote from a friend, “ANYONE that is being paraded in front of us right now should be suspect!! That’s how simple it is. Where is OUR chosen candidate? It’s hard to read such arguments that are based on controlled media and well organized and financed marketing campaigns.”

    google “Palin + AIP” throw in KKK , GOP, or Wayne Madsen Report for good measure. Don’t look if you can’t face the information that is out there. Take all info with a grain of salt but get the facts before you throw your support around. Our children are counting on us to save this country. I take that responsibility seriously.

  119. SueK @ 1:16 pm
    “Blue Hawaiian Punch now speckled on my white shirt…..but it was worth it!
    Thanks for the giggle .”
    Oh No, you’re at it again. I read the article-only honest thing about it was the X-rated language. You can’t make this stuff up. His numbers must be really off the charts LOW.

  120. Does any one know if wine is fating? Red or white wine!

  121. Actually, JS, I’ll have to disagree with you on this one. I’ve seen Steele plenty of times on TV, being as slimy as the worst of the politicos. And what he said was certainly anti tea party. I don’t listen to propaganda, but take the words out of the horse’s mouth. Steele is either hurting or helping the Repubs. Clearly it is hurting. He’s had time to be a proper leader, but he hasn’t pulled it off. There are plenty of better candidates for the job.

  122. Jacqlyn Smith

    #

    Prairie // April 8, 2010 at 1:53 pm

    I am ending this ugly spat with a quote from a friend, “ANYONE that is being paraded in front of us right now should be suspect!! That’s how simple it is. Where is OUR chosen candidate? It’s hard to read such arguments that are based on controlled media and well organized and financed marketing campaigns.”

    google “Palin + AIP” throw in KKK , GOP, or Wayne Madsen Report for good measure. Don’t look if you can’t face the information that is out there. Take all info with a grain of salt but get the facts before you throw your support around. Our children are counting on us to save this country. I take that responsibility seriously.
    ***************************************

    P…I think all of us do…..otherwise we wouldn’t be so passionate in our responses and so supportive of people we view as Patriots and not enemies to our cause! I for one don’t trust Google either…..have you ever investigated where they get their info and how they track you???

  123. Ginger @ 1:56 pm
    No wine per se is not fattening but it might increase your appetite.
    I’ll see if I can find the French paradox video.

  124. Patriot Dreamer

    Ginger // April 8, 2010 at 1:56 pm

    Depends on what kind of diet your trying to follow. Most diets advise you to avoid or minimize wine. Some actually promote it, although in small quantities (see the Mediterranean Diet or the Mediterranean/Atkins diet combo).

  125. Linda from NY

    Republican Congressional Candidate Sues Obama Administration Over Health Care Law

    News on 6 ^ | Apr 08, 2010 | Dave Jordan

    Posted on Thursday, April 08, 2010 3:04:16 PM by ZGuy

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2489202/posts

    “GOP Congressional Candidate Kevin Calvey has filed a lawsuit against the Obama Administration, saying the health care law is unconstitutional.

    “This suit will give Oklahomans an opportunity to put themselves on record as being opposed to the unconstitutional health care legislation that was passed by the federal government,” Calvey said. “

  126. Jacqlyn Smith

    #

    Paulajal // April 8, 2010 at 2:00 pm

    Actually, JS, I’ll have to disagree with you on this one. I’ve seen Steele plenty of times on TV, being as slimy as the worst of the politicos. And what he said was certainly anti tea party. I don’t listen to propaganda, but take the words out of the horse’s mouth. Steele is either hurting or helping the Repubs. Clearly it is hurting. He’s had time to be a proper leader, but he hasn’t pulled it off. There are plenty of better candidates for the job.
    ******************************************

    Paula….I didn’t say he was doing the best job….just that he is not as bad as people are making him out to be…..he has a tough job and maybe not as effective as they were hoping but I personally like him and think he is a good person…..I have seen and heard him a lot too and have read about his background before he got the job…..I liked what I read and I know he is in support of the tea parties I have heard him speak on it and saw him when they interviewed him with the tea party people he was meeting with…..I guess I missed the slimy ones…Oh well to each his own…..I wouldn’t want his job….especially this year with all politicians being on the firing line!!!

  127. #

    Jacqlyn Smith // April 8, 2010 at 1:52 pm

    Greg….I know that…..I am not waiting on anything…are you???

    All set here…

  128. Linda from NY

    Thursday, April 8, 2010

    Illinois GOP Rep. Aaron Schock Tells “Morning Joe” a GOP “Commitment with America” Coming Late Summer or Early Fall – Video 4/8/10

    http://www.freedomslighthouse.com/2010/04/illinois-gop-rep-aaron-schock-tells.html

  129. #

    Ginger // April 8, 2010 at 1:56 pm

    Does any one know if wine is fating? Red or white wine!

    Ginger, And first I want to say that I do not support people trying to sell stuff here…but I am in the nutrition business and have some knowledge in this area. To answer your question YES! You can email me at Hrblf4life@comcast.net if you need or want more info.

  130. Ginger @ 1:56 pm
    French Paradox video, drink and eat to your own good health, food/drink was meant to be enjoyed.
    http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=4750380n&tag=mncol;lst;1

  131. Linda from NY

    Young Woman Strangled to Death By Burka in Freak Go-Kart Accident

    Thursday, April 8, 2010, 11:50 AM
    Jim Hoft

    http://gatewaypundit.firstthings.com/2010/04/young-woman-strangled-to-death-by-burka-in-freak-go-kart-accident/

  132. Linda from NY

    Emboldened by the “Fraud” in the WH?

    Ahmadinejad Warns Israel: An Attack On Gaza Will End Your Filthy Life

    Thursday, April 8, 2010, 5:59 AM
    Jim Hoft

    http://gatewaypundit.firstthings.com/2010/04/ahmadinejad-warns-israel-an-attack-gaza-will-end-your-filthy-life/

  133. Linda from NY

    Disaster Continues… Obama Economy Loses More Jobs

    Thursday, April 8, 2010, 5:49 AM
    Jim Hoft

    http://gatewaypundit.firstthings.com/2010/04/the-disaster-continues-obama-economy-loses-more-jobs/

  134. One of the comments on Nesara says that they hear Sam Kennedy has stepped out of the RAP. Of course, that may be just a rumor too.

  135. Linda from NY

    Alton Tea Party Movement Rally Saturday in Collinsville, IL

    Thursday, April 8, 2010, 5:35 AM
    Jim Hoft

    http://gatewaypundit.firstthings.com/2010/04/alton-tea-party-movement-rally-saturday-in-collinsville-il/

  136. Linda from NY

    20 Years After Fall of Soviet Union Obama Signs Nuke Agreement With Russia

    Thursday, April 8, 2010, 5:20 AM
    Jim Hoft

    http://gatewaypundit.firstthings.com/2010/04/20-years-after-fall-of-soviet-union-obama-signs-nuke-agreement-with-russia/

  137. Thanks every one. I was just wondering because my husband and I have been having a small glass each evening. I hardly ever eat red meat mostly chicken breast skinned and grilled. plenty of vegatables and kept gaining a few ounces a day. The past couple of nights we have not had wine and I lost 1.4 ozs. in two days??? 🙂 Go figure!

  138. Linda from NY

    Hey Boys & Girls: Uncle Jay Explains the News!

    http://unclejayexplains.com/2010/04/04/uncle-jay-explains-apr-5-2010/

    Enjoy!

  139. Linda from NY

    Ohio voters switching from Democratic party to GOP

    Thursday, April 8, 2010

    By: Associated Press

    http://www.newsnet5.com/dpp/news/state/ohio-voters-switching-from-democratic-party-to-gop

    Could this be true or is it “disinformation?”

  140. Linda from NY

    Confederate History Month, African-Americans and Arab Slavery today

    Posted on Thursday, April 08, 2010 3:26:59 PM by Milagros

    “Roland Martin is all fired up about the Confederate History Month issue, as to “why they omit slavery” from celebrating Conf.”

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2489217/posts

    “If Roland Martin is so concerned about slavery, why doesn’t he mention the real –not metaphoric- [the “good” old type of] still practiced today.

    Where? (only) in Arabia of course.”

  141. Linda from NY @ 2:11 pm
    Linda Isadora Duncan died the same way, the moral of the story is keep your head free.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isadora_Duncan
    Duncan’s fondness for flowing scarves was the cause of her death in a freak automobile accident in Nice, France. Duncan’s large silk scarf while still draped around her neck, became entangled around one of the vehicle’s open-spoked wheels and rear axle.

  142. Linda from NY

    How Will the US Respond to an Iranian Nuclear Attack?

    Smoke and Change ^ | 4/8/2010 | Smoke and Change

    Posted on Thursday, April 08, 2010 3:37:16 PM by pb929

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2489222/posts

    “Fast forward the clock by a year or two, or maybe three. After many years of discussing, arguing, finger-pointing and general inaction by the West, the Islamic regime in Tehran has achieved their greatest goal, they have built and tested a nuclear weapon and they now hold the world hostage. How will Washington deal with a nuclear armed Iran and how would the Obama Administration respond to an Iranian nuclear attack against a US or Israeli target?”

  143. Linda from NY // April 8, 2010 at 2:11 pm

    Sorry, Linda(r) but I just have to say this: Maybe she shoulda just stuck with a camel…

    BTW, does the Quran forbid go-karts?

  144. Ginger @ 2:24 pm
    If I were on a diet, I would do no alcohol at all-too many hidden calories. Any alcohol increases my appetite-you can have this after you reach your desired goal.

  145. Linda from NY

    Newly Formed ‘Federation’ of Tea Party and Grassroots Groups Announced

    Fox News ^ | April 8, 2010 | Cristina Corbin

    Posted on Thursday, April 08, 2010 1:05:17 PM by Zakeet
    Edited on Thursday, April 08, 2010 1:20:23 PM by Admin Moderator. [history]

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2489125/posts

    “In an effort to build its credibility and influence nationwide, the tea party movement on Thursday announced the formation of a “federation” of tea party groups.

    Mark Shroder, a member of the Memphis Tea Party, told a crowd of roughly 200 conservative activists gathered outside the state capitol that 21 factions of the movement will form the National Federation Tea Party. Shroder said the federation will act as a “rapid response” to “misinformation” allegedly put forth by the “mainstream media.”

  146. ARMY D.A.V.

    Linda

    The same Ole two headed monster, Uncle Jay would be funny if weren’t for the absolute truth.

    Thanks for posting.

  147. Citizen Don in California

    This is a must read. It is the best I have ever seen on foxnews.

    http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2010/04/07/janine-turner-constitution-federalist-papers-read-founding-fathers/

    Updated April 07, 2010
    JANINE TURNER: Time for a 180, America
    By Janine Turner
    – FOXNews.com

    We the People need to turn around and look back at our Constitution and the Federalist Papers for guidance on how to move our nation forward in this time of crisis. We must join together in a unifying mission to become aware of what is in these great documents. Let’s get cracking and do 90 readings in 90 days.

    snip

    The darkness will call out to us, “But wait, the Constitution isn’t relevant today!” How should we answer that call from the darkness? Is the Constitution relevant today? Well, how about this passage from Federalist paper #62 dealing with the rules of the Senate, as written by James Madison:

    It will be of little avail to the people, that the laws are made by men of their own choice, if the laws be so voluminous that they cannot be read, or so incoherent that they cannot be understood; if they be repealed or revised before they are promulgated, or undergo such incessant changes, that no man who knows what the law is today, can guess what it will be tomorrow. Law is defined to be a rule of action; but how can that be a rule, which is little known or less fixed.

  148. OK! Thanks….

  149. Linda from NY

    SueK // April 8, 2010 at 2:40 pm

    Dunno, Suey…but I do think it forbids having fun!

    Geeez…anyone who rides a bicycle knows about “things” getting caught in the spokes…member rolling up your pants so they did not get tangled in the peddle chains?

    It’s like everything else; people don’t “look before they leap.” Dresses are hazardous, too, but brides do all kinds of “stupid” things in their wedding dresses, no?

    Made me sick to read that…Linda 😦

  150. Linda from NY @ 2:34 pm
    Linda I’m from the Mid-West, and I would believe this. I was a Dem, now Tea Party-did NOT vote for Obama. I think he way over promised a lot of people “stuff” and none of his “stuff” has come true in any way shape or form. If he thinks things will change by November he has gotta be dreaming, even if they do people are totally disgusted with his antics, especially corrupt and inept. You have to admit Obama/Pelosi/Reid gave the Republicans tons of ammunition. I would especially use in the ads all the news that was suppressed.

  151. Linda from NY @ 2:34 pm
    Good idea.

  152. Linda from NY

    April 08, 2010

    US Refuses Visas to all Israeli Nuclear Scientists

    Clarice Feldman

    http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2010/04/us_refuses_visas_to_all_israel.html

  153. ARMY D.A.V.

    Newly Formed ‘Federation’ of Tea Party and Grassroots Groups .

    **********************

    Sounds like a hostile takeover by the WH .

    It would surely destroy the movement …..

    They would have to appoint leaders and then they would target the leaders, Sal Alinsky , book of radicals.

  154. Linda from NY

    Jacqlyn: This one’s for you!

    The Grid

    Who Pays Income Taxes Anymore?

    Updated: 3 hours 33 minutes ago

    http://www.aolnews.com/the-grid/article/who-pays-income-taxes-anymore/19431592

    “April 8) — Do only suckers pay income taxes? That might be the reaction some have when they learn that about 47 percent of their fellow citizens won’t pay any income taxes in 2009. That figure comes from estimates by the Tax Policy Center, a nonpartisan research organization based in Washington, D.C.”

  155. April 08, 2010

    US Refuses Visas to all Israeli Nuclear Scientists

    Atlas Shrugs had this up also. Time to go – take care. Zach

  156. Linda from NY

    Palin and Bachmann: Feminists in Naughty Monkey Peep Toe Heels

    Posted: 04/8/10

    Patricia Murphy Columnist

    http://www.politicsdaily.com/2010/04/08/palin-and-bachmann-feminists-in-naughty-monkey-peep-toe-heels/

  157. Linda from NY

    IRS Commissioner Can’t Say How Many New Agents IRS Will Need to Enforce Obamacare

    cns news ^ | 4/7/10 | Penny Starr, Senior Staff Writer

    Posted on Wednesday, April 07, 2010 5:50:22 PM by Nachum

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2488608/posts

    “(CNSNews.com) – Internal Revenue Service Commissioner Douglas Shulman said at the National Press Club on Monday that the IRS cannot say how many new agents it will need to enforce the new health care law signed by President Barack Obama last month.

    The IRS will play a key role in the new national health care system created by the law because it will be responsible for monitoring whether people buy health insurance, as the law mandates, and for collecting a fine from those who fail to buy insurance.”

  158. Linda from NY

    Caption the breathtaking stupidity – St. Paul, MN liberals at an Anti-War March

    Flickr Photos ^ | 3/20/10 | FibonacciBlue

    Posted on Thursday, April 08, 2010 4:03:08 PM by reaganrevolutionin2010

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2489229/posts

  159. Linda from NY

    April 07, 2010

    An Islamofascist Reading List for President Obama

    C. MacLeod Fuller

    http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2010/04/an_islamofascist_reading_list.html

  160. Linda from NY

    Knew it was too good to be true…

    Gadsden Flag Will Not Be Allowed To Fly Over State Capitol! (Connecticut)

    Hartford Courant ^

    Posted on Thursday, April 08, 2010 3:44:08 PM by Man50D

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2489225/posts

  161. Linda from NY

    What? Kim…help!

    Tea Party Ties to Racism Questioned (Two local Tea Party rallies founder on racism charges)

    AP – WXOW/ Dayton Daily News ^ | Thursday, April 8, 2010

    Posted on Thursday, April 08, 2010 3:48:16 PM by kristinn

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2489226/posts

    “An Alabama author who’s spoken to white supremacists who believe slavery is ordained by god is scheduled to headline a Wausau tea party rally next week.

    The scheduled appearance by John Eidsmoe at the same event where Jefferson County Circuit Judge Randy Koschnick is slated to appear has infuriated black leaders and those that monitor hate groups nationally.”

    More Candidates Drop Out Of Springboro Tea Party Rally (Ohio)

    “SPRINGBORO — Two more candidates have withdrawn from the Springboro Tea Party rally scheduled for Saturday, April 17, at North Park.

    In withdrawing from the event, Chris Koch, a Republican candidate for Warren County commissioner, and Robert Owens, Constitution Party of Ohio candidate for Ohio Attorney General, join State Sen. Shannon Jones, R-Clearcreek Twp., and Sen. Jon Husted, R-Kettering, a candidate for Ohio Secretary of State.

    Like Jones, Koch and Owen said they decided to withdraw from the rally due to a posting on a Twitter site maintained by Sonny Thomas, founder of the Springboro group. The posting made derogatory and violent comments toward Hispanics.”

  162. Linda from NY

    Paladino Speaks at Raucous Tea Party Event

    Finger Lakes News Radio ^ | 04/08/10

    Posted on Thursday, April 08, 2010 1:14:48 PM by Behind Liberal Lines

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2489130/posts

    “Carl Paladino, a Republican candidate for Governor, is a favorite of the Tea Party movement. Paladino gave a speech yesterday at the Palace Theater in Syracuse, and, once again, he got a racous reception.”

    This is not a bad thing!

  163. Linda from NY // April 8, 2010 at 3:06 pm

    🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂

    Linda(r), the white shirt is multi-colored now.

    Man, THAT was funny!

  164. Linda from NY

    Sean Hannity is on now…

    Just heard an irate caller make a total “a$$” out of himself…his name is Juan.

    http://www.rushradio1200.com/mediaplayer/

  165. Linda from NY

    You go girl! Hey, Jackie!

    Palin: Obama Asking for ‘Punch in the Face’ (Nuclear Disarmament and Retaliation)

    Before It’s News ^ | April 8, 2010 | The Editor

    Posted on Thursday, April 08, 2010 3:43:21 PM by 2ndDivisionVet

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2489223/posts

  166. Linda from NY-SueK-All @ 3:17 pm
    read the comment by Erica Thunderpaws she has a very good idea.
    http://jbjd.wordpress.com/2010/04/07/judge-declare-bo-ineligible/#comments

  167. Linda from NY

    SueK: It doesn’t get any better than this!

    Seasonal flu vaccines increase risk of pandemic H1N1 flu, stunned scientists discover

    Natural News ^

    Posted on Thursday, April 08, 2010 4:21:15 PM by Scythian

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2489240/posts

  168. Michelle // April 8, 2010 at 3:24 pm

    Sorry, Michelle, but I don’t understand the comment; don’t follow that blog.

  169. Alcohol is converted to sugar and stored. It is the first thing that the body burns off. So if you are trying to lose weight you have to burn that sugar off first.

  170. Linda from NY

    Thursday, April 8, 2010

    Palin on Obama Nuclear Strategy: “We Miss Ronald Reagan” who Told Enemies “You Lose, We Win” – Video 4/7/10

    http://www.freedomslighthouse.com/2010/04/palin-on-obama-nuclear-strategy-we-miss.html

  171. I love that name: Thunderpaws! Maybe the name of my next cat!

  172. Linda from NY // April 8, 2010 at 3:27 pm

    Yep, Linda, I agree…good article-thanks!

    I’ve been looking into this and the stuff they put in vaccines (for whatever reason) would stun you! We talked about Thimerosal and Squalene here at CW several months ago, but that’s not the half of it.

    Also, no vaccine has ever been *proven* to do any good! When the CDC sends me stats on how many people were ‘saved’ by a vaccine, I’ll consider it; until then, it’s just snake oil.

  173. How in the world does one “arrest bonds”….this seems to be the teeth in RAP…but how exactly do you arrest the bonds of 50 governors?

  174. Linda from NY

    The Media’s War on Tea Party “Extremism”

    The New American ^ | 4/8/2010 | Steven Yates

    Posted on Thursday, April 08, 2010 4:33:48 PM by IbJensen

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2489250/posts

  175. Linda from NY

    Barney Frank Must Go(The Banking Queen is no longer funny and is definitely not affordable any more)

    foxnews ^ | 4/7/10 | Andrea Tantaros

    Posted on Thursday, April 08, 2010 4:32:32 PM by bestintxas

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2489249/posts

  176. Linda from NY

    Obama’s Science Czar: Forced abortions and mass sterilization needed to save the planet

    zombietime.com ^

    Posted on Wednesday, April 07, 2010 2:36:55 PM by FrdmLvr

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2488479/posts

    “Forced abortions. Mass sterilization. A “Planetary Regime” with the power of life and death over American citizens.

    The tyrannical fantasies of a madman? Or merely the opinions of the person now in control of science policy in the United States? Or both?”

  177. Linda from NY

    SueK: You’re first!

    Caption Hillary

    Posted on Thursday, April 08, 2010 4:44:41 PM by Lucky9teen

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2489264/posts

  178. Linda from NY

    Candidate for U.S. Senate from Arkansas questions Obama’s eligibility

    “(Apr. 2, 2010) — A contender for the U.S. Senate seat in Arkansas currently held by Blanche Lincoln (D) has publicly stated that Obama may not qualify for the office he holds.”

    MAINSTREAM PRESS CONTINUES THE LIE THAT HAWAII “OFFICIALS” SAY OBAMA IS A “NATURAL BORN CITIZEN”

    by Sharon Rondeau

    http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/04/02/candidate-for-u-s-senate-from-arkansas-questions-obamas-eligibility/

  179. Linda from NY

    Tea Party Express Offers Bart Stupak $700,000 to Resign from Congress*

    Tea Party Express ^ | April 8, 2010 | Levi Russell

    Posted on Thursday, April 08, 2010 4:42:30 PM by Syncro

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2489259/posts

  180. Army D.A.V. @ 2:42
    Maybe it should be the Galactic Federation of Tea Parties and we could wear cool uniforms…
    It is better to keep them local and loose knit so they can’t get a target on us, or lump us in with any racist groups although they try anyway…

  181. Just got home and recieved paystub in mail and there was NO Federal taxes taken out!I’m calling company in morning because they are closed.Can anyone else check there’s?Just wondering if possible they messed up??Please check your paystubs.Thank You!

  182. truthbetold11

    JS thanks for your reply earlier to the other post about the guardians arent for real. They would have been ARRESSTED on the spot. The bible says. About the apostles. If their purpose or origin is of this world it will fail but if it not you will only find yourselves fighting GOD!

  183. Jacqlyn Smith

    #

    truthbetold11 // April 8, 2010 at 4:14 pm

    JS thanks for your reply earlier to the other post about the guardians arent for real. They would have been ARRESSTED on the spot. The bible says. About the apostles. If their purpose or origin is of this world it will fail but if it not you will only find yourselves fighting GOD!
    *****************************************

    Truth…..I’m just saying what I believe and what my faith tells me to do…..everyone is entitled to their own beliefs……I am still battling people in my own family who voted for the FRAUD and still can’t believe he would have gotten to the POTUS without a real birth certificate……of course they are in La La Land and drunk still on the Kool-aid…..the truth is very powerful…..if that is what you rely on you can not go astray!!!!

    “The road to truth is long, and lined the entire way with annoying bastards.”

    Alexander Jablokov

  184. Hey Jacqlyn,
    Don’t you feel sorry for your Senator?? Give him some help, eh? ☺

    http://newsmax.com/InsideCover/US-Reid-Campaign-Bus/2010/04/07/id/355052

  185. Linda @ 3:39 p.m.
    Important part of the article you posted:

    “Of course, it needs to be kept in mind that the Tea Party is a movement, not an organization, and as such it is comprised of who not only have varying levels of understanding but even different beliefs and agendas — from being concerned only about the Democrats’ big-spending policies to a recognition that the problem is bipartisan and that we must expose the political and banking elites’ power grab and get back to the Constitution is we are to save our freedoms.
    So far, the Tea Party Movement has not clearly united around the latter theme. Perhaps this is what the elites are afraid may eventually happen, which is why they are so desperate now to brand this movement as fringe and extremist despite its representation of a broad cross-section of middle America.”

    Go Tea Partiers, Go!

  186. truthbetold11

    I feel like the brakes finally have been slammed on but they still need major repairs. Thats our country

  187. Kim @ 4:35 pm
    Are you on the Tea Party bus? or did the rally occur in your hometown?

  188. Michelle, neither, LOL, but the Tea Party Express did come near, I had my choice of two locations they were stopping at nearby.
    My own tea party group has meetings and tea parties regularly. We are growing. Each time we are in public, more people stop to ask how they can get involved.

  189. GBA: “Just got home and recieved paystub in mail and there was NO Federal taxes taken out!I’m calling company in morning because they are closed.Can anyone else check there’s?Just wondering if possible they messed up??Please check your paystubs.Thank You!”

    Please let us know what has happened, if anything.

  190. Linda from NY

    Checking state websites for lower case letters:

    NJ, NY, PA, IN…not changed yet

    Georgia, Massachusetts [!] changed.

    Please check yours…Thanks!

  191. did anyone listen to rush today? very interesting.

    Per the transcrpt:

    “I have an idea. I’ve been thinking about this, and I think — you know, we still all have too much reverence for the federal government as an entity. We look at it with way too much reverence. We should apply the same SEC, FTC, and other regulatory standards imposed on private enterprise on the government.”

    “Is there any doubt that if Nancy Pelosi were chairman or CEO of some big company, that all the lies she told about health care would be considered material misrepresentations for which she would be criminally accountable in the private sector? You let any CEO lie, a publicly held company, lie and offer bribes and kickbacks to advance whatever the CEO’s agenda is throughout the company, make sure the shareholders don’t find out about it, they get screwed — she wouldn’t last a week in that position. ”

    He is saying we should treat the goverment like a private enterprise, i.e. corporation. Guess what? They are. Do you think he knows?

  192. Kittycat,
    I will!I thought I was seeing things but not!None was taken out.

  193. Kim @ 4:45 pm
    Thanks Kim-I was just wondering-I know the Tea Party will keep growing until WE THE PEOPLE get our so-called govt back on a firm Constitutional footing. Which part of WE THE PEOPLE don’t they understand? We are all regular, concerned Americans not astro-turf or any other derogatory phrase/word.

  194. Thanks for the update on the Kerchner case — a cause for cautious optimism.

    Time for this boil to break open and be cleaned out for good.

  195. Linda from NY

    Alabama.gov…lower case

    Florida.gov…lower case

    Oops…found this

    FBI Investigating Threat Letter To Governors

    by Alan Greenblatt

    April 2, 2010

    http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=125506598

  196. Linda from NY // April 8, 2010 at 4:56 pm

    Checking state websites for lower case letters:

    NJ, NY, PA, IN…not changed yet

    Georgia, Massachusetts [!] changed.

    Please check yours…Thanks

    *****************************************

    I checked Mass….it is still capitalized….what did you check and how was it spelled.

    The Official Website of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts

    Am i missing something?

  197. Citizen Don in California

    AZ.GOV still all caps.

    NV.Gov . Welcome to the State of Nevada – First letter cap, rest small

  198. Linda from NY

    nj native // April 8, 2010 at 5:04 pm

    http://www.mass.gov/?pageID=dorhomepage&L=1&L0=Home&sid=Ador

    Look at the logo at the top right hand side…

    It says Mass.gov with the state seal.

    This also appears on the Governor’s website.

    ???

  199. Linda from NY

    nj native // April 8, 2010 at 5:04 pm

    This is the Governor’s website…

    http://www.mass.gov/?pageID=mg2homepage&L=1&L0=Home&sid=massgov2

  200. TO:
    GBAmerica // April 8, 2010 at 5:00 pm

    Kittycat,
    I will!I thought I was seeing things but not!None was taken out.
    ===============

    They didn’t take any FICA, State, etc or just didn’t take federal?
    Maybe the accountant was out and they will adjust it next pay period.

  201. What’s that logo? Has it always been that way?

  202. JS,

    Please forgive me because I’m just frustrated with all that is happening too quickly.

    I have a friend, a conservative, that I’m explaining, or trying to about all of this. Do you have links handy where I can let her listen to what’s happening when she gets the time?

    Thanks

  203. West Virginia- no caps!!

  204. Did WV used to have caps? We need some pre-screenshots of all of this like someone at Nesara was saying, then the after ones.

  205. PRWH,
    They took everything else out but NO Federal.Just seems weird,they have never ever missed taking out federal!

  206. ARMY D.A.V.

    WV all caps…………

  207. Hi Jacqlyn, I just want to say thanks for putting out the info which you have been doing concerning the guardians and what they are doing.

    Do you know anything about how the guardians feel about the new currency that is suppose to be coming out soon? I can’t help thinking that if any new currency comes out, it is going to have New World Order written all over it.

  208. Jacqlyn Smith

    L J // April 8, 2010 at 4:29 pm

    Hey Jacqlyn,
    Don’t you feel sorry for your Senator?? Give him some help, eh? ☺
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    I don’t think so…..Dirty Harry will get his….did you read his last quote….

    “I’m just who I’ve always been,” he said.

    Yeah….you got that right DH….that’s why were voting you OUT!!!!!

  209. ARMY D.A.V.

    Whoops , thought you were talking about something else.

  210. Jacqlyn Smith

    #

    Kittycat // April 8, 2010 at 5:22 pm

    JS,

    Please forgive me because I’m just frustrated with all that is happening too quickly.

    I have a friend, a conservative, that I’m explaining, or trying to about all of this. Do you have links handy where I can let her listen to what’s happening when she gets the time?

    Thanks
    *****************************************

    Hi KC….I think the best way for her to learn is to send her to the new website for the RAP…it is up now and you can click on your state and in the top right hand corner you can read the overview and then there is a QandA if you have questions to send in…..below is the new website…..I suggest everyone here visit it and read it for your own information…..then you can sign on if you are comfortable with what they say….

    http://www.restoreamericaplan.net/

    Also….South suggested this…….

    http://www.nmcservices.net/

    the above site has a lot of information but it can be very overwhelming if you aren’t familiar with any of this and are visiting it for the first time….on the left hand side is the topics….I suggest she click on straw man first and learn what that means!!! Good luck Kittycat! 🙂

  211. If you send a criminal complaint on a public official (i.e. Governor, etc) to the Insurance Commissioner of the State, it becomes instantly and automatically a “LIEN” against the bond of the Official, Judge, or District Attorney, and he’s dead; as in cannot legally hold office or function.

    He cannot function without bonding. This is held in suspension until the issue is resolved.

    No Judge, Attorney, Jury can overturn or change this process.

    Click to access mastering-the-ucc.pdf

    My thoughts: I believe Tim Turner and the Elders filed and criminal complaint against all 50 governors for not obeying the constitution, and provided proof by showing they have all allowed the persecution of their constituents by means of illegal taxation, foreclosures, imprisonment (since a lot of people are in prison for crimes that supposedly cause the state harm, and there was no actual harm done to another individual); there must by law be an injured party ……. a “STATE” is not an injured party.

    It’s a corporation; a fictitious being; a figment of our imagination.

    I believe he arrested the bonds, which paralyzes the governors, until they sign the new oath.

    When they sign the new oath, they are now under ‘contract’.

    There is no way out of this by the governors. They either sign the oath, or step down. If they sign the oath, Tim releases the “LIEN” against their bond.

    Tim is using their own laws against them.

    Brilliant!

  212. Jacqlyn Smith

    UpstateWarrior // April 8, 2010 at 5:36 pm

    Hi Jacqlyn, I just want to say thanks for putting out the info which you have been doing concerning the guardians and what they are doing.

    Do you know anything about how the guardians feel about the new currency that is suppose to be coming out soon? I can’t help thinking that if any new currency comes out, it is going to have New World Order written

    *******************************************

    Hey UpState…..NO I really only know what I heard from Tim Turner’s call last night and that was there will definitely be a change in currency….in the summer he heard probably a 12 to 1 swap of federal reserve notes and that it may come down as soon as this month….possibly the third week in April….not sure what the currency will be….banks will probably close for a few days and then back up….maybe on a weekend and a Monday….but he said it wouldn’t take long!

  213. If you haven’t seen this, it’s good! This was supposedly written by a Judge (I can’t confirm that, but whoever wrote this, knows a lot of things, you weren’t supposed to know).

    The Matrix and the U.S. Constitution

    http://abundanthope.net/pages/True_US_History_108/The-Matrix.shtml

  214. Jacqlyn Smith

    #

    The South // April 8, 2010 at 5:56 pm

    If you send a criminal complaint on a public official (i.e. Governor, etc) to the Insurance Commissioner of the State, it becomes instantly and automatically a “LIEN” against the bond of the Official, Judge, or District Attorney, and he’s dead; as in cannot legally hold office or function.

    He cannot function without bonding. This is held in suspension until the issue is resolved.

    No Judge, Attorney, Jury can overturn or change this process.

    Click to access mastering-the-ucc.pdf

    My thoughts: I believe Tim Turner and the Elders filed and criminal complaint against all 50 governors for not obeying the constitution, and provided proof by showing they have all allowed the persecution of their constituents by means of illegal taxation, foreclosures, imprisonment (since a lot of people are in prison for crimes that supposedly cause the state harm, and there was no actual harm done to another individual); there must by law be an injured party ……. a “STATE” is not an injured party.

    It’s a corporation; a fictitious being; a figment of our imagination.

    I believe he arrested the bonds, which paralyzes the governors, until they sign the new oath.

    When they sign the new oath, they are now under ‘contract’.

    There is no way out of this by the governors. They either sign the oath, or step down. If they sign the oath, Tim releases the “LIEN” against their bond.

    Tim is using their own laws against them.

    Brilliant!
    *****************************************

    South…..excellent explanation…..I sort of understand it but I can’t really explain it….you have done your homework….I believe the Elders are also very brilliant men and they know the original Constitution like the back of their hands…..thanks for your summary!!

  215. Maybe ‘jbjd’ should file a criminal complaint against one of the officials in a state she’s working on a lawsuit in.

    This would put a lien against their bond, until the issue of Obamas citizenship was resolved.

    jbjd?

  216. South…..excellent explanation…..I sort of understand it but I can’t really explain it….you have done your homework….I believe the Elders are also very brilliant men and they know the original Constitution like the back of their hands…..thanks for your summary!!
    _________________________________

    I’m not 100% sure that’s what they did JS, but it sounds logical from what I’ve heard about the Elders arresting the bonds.

    Lets hope it works.

  217. You decide

    Diplomatic Immunity for Midair-Scare Envoy: Is It Right?

    http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2010/04/08/diplomatic-immunity-midair-scare-envoy-right/

  218. Jacqlyn Smith

    #

    The South // April 8, 2010 at 6:08 pm

    South…..excellent explanation…..I sort of understand it but I can’t really explain it….you have done your homework….I believe the Elders are also very brilliant men and they know the original Constitution like the back of their hands…..thanks for your summary!!
    _________________________________

    I’m not 100% sure that’s what they did JS, but it sounds logical from what I’ve heard about the Elders arresting the bonds.

    Lets hope it works.
    *****************************************

    NO…I think you are right on…..Follow the Constitution keeps explaining stuff too over at the AGJ and what you say is much like what FTC has said over there….below is one of the posts that explain some things….

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Comment Author: Follow the Constitution
    Comment Date: 2010-04-06 12:16:20

    Why is the military “threatening” the officer with court marshal? Because that is all they can do, which is make THREATS!

    Do you think they will carry out those threats? Let’s hope so! Because that will allow the officer full discovery on obtaining all Obama’s records. So at the end of the day it is probably just that. nothing but threats! They will probably do the same thing as they did when Major Cook did this and just revoke his orders so they don’t get trapped into having to expose the fraud.

    Or just “maybe”, just “maybe”, this is part of a plan to expose the fraud!

    There only three options here that I can see. One, the military backs off if their “threats” don’t work and ends up revoking his orders just to continue with covering up the fraud.

    Two, they carry out the threat and give the officer full discovery so he can defend himself where the military will have to PROVE Obama is in fact a natural born citizen and constitutionally eligible to serve as President.

    Three, they ignore the law, ignore the officer’s rights to a fair trial, illegally and unlawfully deny him all due process and just railroad this guy to cover up the fraud and prosecute him anyway by committing fraud on the court, and everyone involved pergurs themselves under oath in court.

    So which is it going to be? That is the million dollar question.

    One thing is certain though. Whatever they do in this case will have nothing to do with other deal with RAP. Unless this thing has something to do with this in some way and we just don’t know about it. But assuming this has nothing to do with it they are not going to risk jeopardizing everything over one incident that will be resolved later after their plan unfolds in the near future.

    One thing that needs to be understood is that putting this out in the msm is the last thing anyone would want. That is exactly what would hurt this plan from being carried out. Just look at the all the uproar now just between the few that have heard anything about this. Can you imagine having the entire nation exposed to this going on? There would probably be riots and everything else!

    This has nothing to do with these people taking over anything. They are not going to be taking over anyone’s positions. They are not going to be coming in and appointing anyone new that they merely select that they want in office. This plan requires everyone to just step out of the corporation and take a new oath to their office and go back to being a government again under the constitution. That’s it! It is really a very simple plan. IF, and ONLY IF, someone does not want to take a new oath to the constitution and step out of the corporation, THEN, and ONLY THEN, will they be required to step down or be removed. They will have to step down or else their bond will be taken and without their bond they can not serve in office. If they refuse to take the new oath and if they refuse to step down then they will be removed by force which the force will be carried out by the taking of their bond.

    IF anyone steps down or is forced to step down because of having their bond taken, then it goes in line to the next official in line that would normally take their position of office in the event something was to ever happen to them where they could not carry out the full term of office. So if a governor steps down or is removed then the Lt. governor is next in line. The Lt. governor then has the choice to come in and take the new oath to office or step down. IF the Lt, governor steps down or refuses then it goes in line to the next person that would succeed the Lt governor’s office should something happen to both the governor and Lt. governor. They go right down the line with the public officials already serving that have all been elected by the people. Very simple process. The Elders are not appointing anyone new nor are they taking over any office where they are going to run the country.

    From what they said this plan has been in the works for a few years. THEY were the ones that were approached by the military and told what they would have to do in order to get the military to be able to support this. Everything they were told by the military has been put into the declaration that was drafted. I do not know all what those specific details were, but what they did say is that part of what the military told them was that they had to have a grand jury from each of the 50 States with x number of signatures in order to move forward and back this. ALL 50 States had to be on board and signed up. If they miss just one State they couldn’t back it. At least that was my understanding from listening to everything over the past two months.

    As far as this thing with taking their bonds goes, this does work! This is something they have already done over the years with other public officials and they have all been removed from their position of office. They have removed Judges from the bench by taking their bonds, they have removed prosecuters from practicing law by taking their bonds, and they have removed attorneys from practicing law by taking their bonds. They have done it and proven it works! So when I heard Sam Kennedy say he told the FBI agent that they have already been removed by arresting their bonds that is when it hit me! It is brilliant!

    BTW…This is something well worth learning about as far as being able to take the bonds on public officials that over step their authority and commit any type of fraud or injury to you. Think of these Judges refusing to allow any charges from being brought against someone that a lawful grand jury indicted???? Hint, hint!

  219. Unfortunately, I don’t believe the enemy which has infiltrated America so deeply since 1871, is going to get up and walk away because we the people are trying to re-establish the constitution as the supreme law of the land.

    I honestly think that if they feel threatened by Americans taking back the country, they will implement a scorched earth policy in an attempt to put us back in our place.

    Worse case scenerio: What will Americans do, if nuclear bombs go off in major cities, all electricity is shut off, and all services come to a stop? I think after a few months or more, most Americans who are still alive will submit to any group that comes along whether it’s the UN, China, Russia, etc., as long as they promise to restore order in their lives. I hate to say this, but I think something like this is going to happen.

    I also believe there will be a remnant of constitution believing, uncompromising Americans, who will also survive such an attack and its aftermath. No matter how hard it is to survive they will never submit to any occupying force, no matter what is promised, and they will fight and fight and keep on fighting to the death if need be.

    With God’s grace and his mercies upon me, if I should survive such an attack, I hope to be a part of the remnant that takes the fight to the enemy until they are driven off our land and into the ocean.

  220. Jacqlyn Smith

    South…..here FTC was answering someone who was concerned that the Supreme Court wasn’t doing anything…..this is what FTC said…it makes sense to me….

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Comment Author: Follow the Constitution
    Comment Date: 2010-04-06 13:31:08
    Comment:
    Floridafree. …. They don’t need any Judges to do anything. The Judges are without any power to stop them!

    They have arrested their BONDS! They can not continue without being bonded.

    They do not need any Judge to enforce the taking of their bonds. They can do that by just using a notary. They can then file a maritime lien against the bonds. A maritime lien is the most powerful lien you can get. They are done! Over! The end! No one will bond them because of this. If they attempt to ignore this and stay in office then they are now personally liable for everything and wide open to lose everything they own!

    No Judge can do anything to prevent this nor can they force them to ever release any liens filed against them. They have been there and done that many times already!

    Now I don’t know if they even half to do this as far as filing any liens on them, I am only suspecting this is what they may do since this is what they have done in prior cases by having Judges removed and lawyers removed from practicing law.

    In about 30 days you will know if this is working or not. This is no different than anything else as far as everything has to go through a proper process. No regardless of what anyone says or how they feel or whatever, there is nothing you can do except wait a few weeks to see if anything unfolds with this. After 30 days if nothing is happening then you can say it isn’t working.

    Look at all that Bob here has been through. Has he given up? Not at all! He continues pushing forward and refuses to quit! As much as we all want to see things just happen overnight that just isn’t going to happen. And if you ask me, I think having to wait 30 days to start seeing any results is as pretty close to having things start to happen is as close to overnight as you are going to get.

    BTW…I have been thinking about this taking their bond thing and it would seem to me that this is something that could be used on these Judges to enforce them to allow these grand jury indictments to move forward. If the Judge is not doing his job and preventing a lawful grand jury from allowing their indictments to move forward, they that would seem to me that the Judge is over stepping his power and committing fraud on the court. That would allow for his bond to be taken because he is causing injury to the people. And if a Judge over steps their authority they are no longer immune from being held liable. Hint, hint.

  221. Citizen Don in California

    Jacqlyn Smith // April 8, 2010 at 5:48 pm
    ////////////////////
    I just visited that site and read the “Strawman” and am so confused. It reminded me of trying to read the “deathcare” bill.

    I sure don’t have the money to order the programs that they offer.

    I guess I am still just a dumb ole country boy.

  222. Jacqlyn Smith

    Upstate….You paint a real doomsday…..I hope it is only fictional……that is why with the military backing the plan and actually enforcing it we should see a peaceful resolution…..that is the way the Elders have outlined it anyway….quiet, discreet and peaceful!

  223. Jacqlyn Smith

    #

    Citizen Don in California // April 8, 2010 at 6:23 pm

    Jacqlyn Smith // April 8, 2010 at 5:48 pm
    ////////////////////
    I just visited that site and read the “Strawman” and am so confused. It reminded me of trying to read the “deathcare” bill.

    I sure don’t have the money to order the programs that they offer.

    I guess I am still just a dumb ole country boy.
    ****************************************

    Don…I don’t have the money either…..let’s see what happens in the next 30 days…..did you go to the new website for the Restore America Plan too???

  224. Linda from NY // April 8, 2010 at 3:47 pm

    Linda(r), you’re killin’ me with these pics!

    If I didn’t know bettah, I’d say old Hillie just came from 3 days of peace and love at Woodstock.

    But I know bettah….

  225. Citizen Don in California

    Jacqlyn Smith // April 8, 2010 at 6:26 pm
    ///////////////
    Yes, I have visited and tried to read and understand. My level is 2+2=4 anything more involved goes over my head. Sorry, I just don’t understand all of this. Maybe if I had someone close that I could talk to, it would make more sense.

  226. jbjd.

    Can you or someone working with you on an election fraud case, file a criminal complaint against the AG’s or Secretary of State?

    If so, that would put a “LIEN” on their bond, and they wouldn’t be able to hold that office until the issue is resolved.

    Have you thought of doing this yet?

  227. Jacqlyn Smith

    This is OT but an email I received from my very best high school friend today who is from Hays, Kansas…..it is a scary world…..with so many people hurting some are very desperate and will stop at nothing to trick others……
    *******************************************

    Good evening,

    Karen Dinges Staab is the secretary at O’Loughlin Elementary School in Hays, KS. She is the daughter of Gilbert (Bucks) and Alfreda Dinges of Schoenchen.

    This incident really happened a week ago this past Wednesday and is being sent for your own discernment on how you can be aware!!

    She was in Topeka at a Ramada Inn. While in the lobby a lady (30ish-white) approached Karen and said she had some medical issue – a tube in her back that she needed help with. I’m not sure of the whole story how she coaxed her into the bathroom, but she did. She said she would help her out and when they got into the bathroom the lady threw her to the ground, had her by the hair and repeatedly slammed her head into the floor. She punched, kicked and beat on her severely. Mostly one side of her face, but kicked in the side and chest. Karen threw her purse hoping to make her go for the purse. Even after the lady grabbed her purse, she continued to kick her. Karen said she had a goose egg on her head the size of a baseball. The lady ran out of the bathroom and Karen bleeding was able to follow her out screaming for help. Several people, including a FBI agent, (only God would have a FBI agent there)took out after her and they were able to apprehend her. Karen was taken to the hospital and had a CAT Scan. Nothing broken, but sore and bruised. The lady has been charged with at least two felony counts (theft, battery and possible attempted murder). She is very, very lucky. It was a very violent act. How sad this world is, we can’t even help someone because we have no idea if it is legit or not. The one writing to me said, she told her girls to NEVER isolate yourself with a stranger no matter what the age (young or old) could be a setup. Stay around people, and never go alone to the restroom. I guess we can’t be careful enough.

    Several things to be aware of this year … as gangs and robbers are now plotting different ways to get a person to “stop” their vehicle. There is a gang initiation reported by the local police department that gangs are placing a car seat by the road … with a fake baby in it … waiting for a woman, of course, to stop and check on the baby. Note that the location of this car seat will usually be beside a wooded or grassy (field) area .. and the person a woman – will be dragged into the woods, beaten and raped – usually left for dead. Do Not Stop … Dial 9-1-1 and inform them.

    Also, if you are driving at night and eggs are thrown at your windshield. Do not operate the wiper and spray any water because eggs mixed with water become milky and block your vision up to 92.5%, so you are forced to stop beside the road and become a victim of robbers. This is a new technique used by robbers. Was not aware of this one at all!!! Would automatically have turned on the windshield cleaner.

  228. GBAmerica // April 8, 2010 at 5:35 pm

    PRWH,
    They took everything else out but NO Federal.Just seems weird,they have never ever missed taking out federal!
    ****************************************

    This is very interesting, what a coincidence if it is a mistake. Tomorrow is friday…we should know for sure by then.

  229. Linda from NY

    AG Helps Illegal Alien Gangbangers Charged With Murder

    Last Updated: Fri, 04/02/2010 – 12:04pm

    http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2010/apr/holder-helps-illegal-alien-gangbangers-charged-murder

    “Three illegal immigrant gang members who faced the death penalty for murdering a Maryland man last summer have been spared by the nation’s chief law enforcement officer who has ordered prosecutors not to seek the maximum punishment.

    Attorney General Eric Holder intervened on behalf of the El Salvadoran gangbangers by directing federal prosecutors handling their conspiracy and murder case to rule out the death penalty, according to a Virginia-based news web site that broke the story this week. The three illegal immigrants are members of a notoriously violent street gang called Mara Salvatrucha (MS-13) that has spread throughout the country like the plague.”

  230. Jacqlyn Smith

    GBA….My husband gets paid tomorrow but has direct deposit so he won’t see his pay stub until Saturday…..he has Thursday and Friday off….I told him what you said….he will know on Saturday if they didn’t take out Federal tax!

  231. Linda from NY // April 8, 2010 at 5:19 pm

    nj native // April 8, 2010 at 5:04 pm
    *************************************

    Hi Guys,

    It’s always been like that.

  232. Jacqlyn Smith

    Linda from NY // April 8, 2010 at 6:52 pm

    AG Helps Illegal Alien Gangbangers Charged With Murder

    Last Updated: Fri, 04/02/2010 – 12:04pm

    *****************************************

    I say cut off their balls and send them back home…..we don’t want to pay for their room and board until they die or escape…..this makes me sick!!! I can’t stand Holder…..he needs to go to jail too!!

  233. Another point to ponder:

    The only way the Governors of the 50 States can be saved, is to come back with their own affidavit that rebuts the claims made against them by Tim Turner and the Elders, point by point.

    When you file an affidavit against someone, and they don’t respond, it’s the law by contract.

    If I say you owe me $50.00 every week for the next year in an affidavit, and you don’t rebut my claims with your own affidavit, point by point as to why my claim is wrong, my affidavit becomes the LAW.

    These Governors cannot rebut Tim’s claims that they have illegally imprisoned people from their state, or illegal collected income taxes, etc.

    I have to say: This is nothing short of brilliant.

    Absolutely Brilliant!

  234. If ‘jbjd’ were to file a criminal complaint of an affidavit against the elected officials that allowed the election fraud to take place, it would do two things.

    1…. Seize their bonds.

    2… Force them to rebut her affidavit point by point, which they cannot do.

    Check Mate.

  235. The above was supposed to read:

    file a criminal complaint ‘and’ an affidavit.

  236. Ginger:

    Do you have access to a butcher’s scale? Just curious how you measured 1.4 oz……Heck I’m sure I lose that much in brain cell mass just reading all the blogs. No need to diet..

    I’m sure you meant 1.4 lbs…just joshing ya.

    BTW…I have always believed a bit of wine at supper is a good thing

  237. This is an excellent article from May 29, 2008 that I missed. It discusses the Nevada felony arrest warrant of Rezko for bouncing checks to cover gambling debts in various Vegas casinos totaling over $400,000. Those bounced checks were drawn on an account at Chicago’s Broadway Bank, whose vice president at the time was Alexei Giannoulius. And of course Obama endorsed Giannoulius for the Illinois House. The sleazy connections between Obama, Rezko, Giannoulius et al. have not been properly investigated by the mainstream media, and only Citizen Wells and a few others (including the author of this article posted at his blog) have done this work. Also, did you know that Obama has never released his Rezko-related legal work? In fact, almost nothing is known publicly about Obama’s work as an attorney.

    http://marathonpundit.blogspot.com/2008/05/coincidences-and-las-vegas-rezko-arrest.html

  238. The South // April 8, 2010 at 7:13 pm

    The South,

    You may want to post your idea on her blog; she may not be reading here tonight. I think it’s a terrific idea.

    http://jbjd.wordpress.com/

  239. Linda from NY // April 8, 2010 at 3:41 pm

    Barney Frank Must Go
    ***************************************************************
    He should have gone some time ago.

  240. #

    SueK // April 8, 2010 at 7:25 pm

    The South // April 8, 2010 at 7:13 pm

    The South,

    You may want to post your idea on her blog; she may not be reading here tonight. I think it’s a terrific idea.

    http://jbjd.wordpress.com/
    ***************************************************
    I am working my way up. (I read from bottom to top.)

  241. Jacqlyn Smith @ 6:41 pm
    Another thing to be aware of-people who jog with earphones plugged in, you cannot be aware of your surroundings like that-too distracted.
    Worse-people who are addicted to cell phone use. If I hadn’t seen this one myself I would not have believed it. I was at the gas station after work so I was tired but no longer in a hurry. It was busy so I had to wait for the lady in front of me-she was on the cell the entire time-she was so unconscious and oblivious a thief could have bopped her over the head 20 times over.

  242. #

    The South // April 8, 2010 at 7:13 pm

    If ‘jbjd’ were to file a criminal complaint of an affidavit against the elected officials that allowed the election fraud to take place, it would do two things.

    1…. Seize their bonds.

    2… Force them to rebut her affidavit point by point, which they cannot do.

    Check Mate.
    *****************************************************
    I’m not sure what you mean by filing a criminal complaint. The citizen complaints of election fraud are, essentially, reports of a crime from complaining witnesses. These are all citizens of the great state of Texas, asking the AG to begin an investigation. (Technically, the crime originated in Austin, where the office of the SoS received the fraudulent documents that resulted in the state printing BO’s name on the ballot; and the DA in that jurisdiction most likely would prosecute in court Theoretically, citizens were victimized throughout the state and so, DA’s in several counties could prosecute. But since the impacted function, elections, belongs to the state, and since this is such a huge and sensitive issue, it rightly needs to begin with the AG. But let me think about the efficacy and feasibility of bringing individual District Attorneys into the mix.)

    Of course, the citizens of Texas may proceed however they want! All of the facts are out there already.

  243. #

    The South // April 8, 2010 at 7:13 pm

    If ‘jbjd’ were to file a criminal complaint of an affidavit against the elected officials that allowed the election fraud to take place, it would do two things.

    1…. Seize their bonds.

    2… Force them to rebut her affidavit point by point, which they cannot do.

    Check Mate.
    **********************************************
    I am not working on a lawsuit! The only lawsuit I mentioned is the one the RPT can bring against the TDP to keep BO’s name off the Texas ballot. They are the only ones with standing right now; the law explicitly says, state party Chairs may declare candidates ineligible and the people with standing to bring such a suit are other state party chairs or, under certain conditions, opposing candidates.

  244. jbjd said: I’m not sure what you mean by filing a criminal complaint.
    __________________________________

    I’m trying to say file a criminal complaint against the DA or AG or SOS for allowing the fraud to take place.

    Once you file a criminal complaint against them, it will ‘arrest or seize’ their bond, which basically paralyzes them.

    The only way the can get their bond back is to rebut your claim point by point.

    Can they rebut your claim, that they allowed election fraud to take place in their state?

    No they cannot.

  245. Fernley Girl @ 7:29 pm
    “Harry Reid Won’t Announce Stops On Bus Tour Out of Fear of Protesters”
    You have to admit it. We have some really gutsy congress people these days, they will send our military off to war, enact legislation that the people a/k/a taxpayers told them repeatedly that they hated it and then don’t have the guts or the gumption to face these citizens. GUTLESS WONDERS-They should be ashamed to call themselves Americans, much less be allowed to represent our people. Just as bad if not worse-not facing all the constituents ie. locking out the opposition. Debbie Wasserman Schultz shame on you. You know better than that. That was beneath you Debbie. Let Obama sell his own nit wit Health Care Reform plan.

  246. Jacqlyn Smith

    Michelle // April 8, 2010 at 7:34 pm

    Jacqlyn Smith @ 6:41 pm

    ******************************************

    Michelle…..My daughter gets so upset with me because I am always harping on her when she is away from home to always pay attention to her surroundings…..especially here in Vegas….a lot of gangs and homeless now…..I can’t wait to settle my law suit and move somewhere more rural yet close to the city….and I want to stay in the Southwest….I love the landscape and the climate!! 🙂

  247. $$$$ Price of Strawman Plan etc.

    There is one site that is very expensive don’t get ripped off. If you can’t afford it don’t spend the money. Tim Turner’s site is reasonably priced and worse come to worse maybe we can all pitch in and join and then have someone like maybe JS, SueK, etc learn about and then help us with guidance on what needs to be done.

    Most of this will be automatic and no need to do anythign or spend any money.

    Meanwhile go to the free site and listen to the recordings there very informative and you will learn alot without spending any money by listening to what others have done and answers to their questions.

    Go here and click on LISTEN there are many hours of stuff listen to one per night before you go to sleep.

    http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web/talkCast.jsp?masterId=46256&pageNumber=0&pageSize=15

  248. How many of you have listened to this Video???

    Can you believe this is one MSNBC?? A week ago you would Never Hear MSNBC or any LIEberal network say this NOT EVEN FOX would say it. Today I heard Glennedict Arnold for a bit when I got in the car and had left that station on from last night and he sounded like he was aware of something big underground from the way he was talking.

    This is a breaking news video of MSNBC.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/36233217#36233217

     

  249. Jacqlyn Smith

    This is funny….I heard it before but worth repeating…..

    When Obama died, George Washington met him at the Pearly Gates. He slapped him across the face and yelled, “How dare you try to destroy the Nation I helped conceive?”

    Patrick Henry approached, punched him in the nose and shouted, “You wanted to end our liberties but you failed.”

    James Madison followed, kicked him in the groin and said, “This is why I allowed our government to provide for the common defense!”

    Thomas Jefferson was next, beat Obama with a long cane and snarled, “It was evil men like you who inspired me to write the Declaration of Independence.”

    The beatings and thrashings continued as George Mason, James Monroe and 66 other early Americans unleashed their anger on the radical, socialist, leader.

    As Obama lay bleeding and in pain, an Angel appeared. Obama wept and Said, “This is not what you promised me.”

    The Angel replied, “I told you there would be 72 VIRGINIANS waiting for you in Heaven. What did you think I said?”…..”You really need to listen when someone is trying to tell you something!”

  250. Sorry about the short notice – just got this in email:

    Join Red Beckman & Terry Dodd tonight on Walls In Our Minds with our guest Steve Pattison, of Citizens for a Constitutional Republic. Check out his website at http://www.citizensforaconstitutionalrepublic.com/Media_controlled_You_be_the_judge!.html
      
    This will be an important discussion on the IRS and sovereignty.

    The show starts at 8 p.m. Central time or 7 p.m. Mountain and the link is http://www.blogtalkradio.com/drkate/2010/04/09/revolution-radio-walls-in-our-minds

    Call-in Number: (347) 838-9176

  251. Jacqlyn Smith @ 7:52 pm
    A super nice person that we met down here in Florida moved to the Taos and Albuquerque areas in New Mexico. She is an artist-she is in a ruralish area, you may want to check that out. Tell your daughter I’m not kidding some of these folks on cell phones (women seem to be the worst offenders on this score) are like totally unconscious-not too good. We have all suffered hearing cell phone conversations-so embarrassing-I hate it. No longer get a room, get a phone booth, please. I have yet to over hear a conversation that speaks to anything remotely intelligent. Couples arguing, husbands at the grocery store looking for items-it really is pathetic when you think about it. No Constitutional protections either as John Gotti can attest to.

  252. GBA: “They took everything else out but NO Federal.Just seems weird,they have never ever missed taking out federal!”

    You’ve got me all ten times of excited now! Ooh, I hope it’s so and wasn’t a mistake.

  253. Jacqlyn Smith

    Peter…..thanks for posting both of those links again….I did post the last one this morning…..pretty strange…..Grayson is a shmuck though…..he knows all about this stuff being in the Congress and part of the problem!!!

  254. If you haven’t watched this seminar by Tim Turner, you have NO idea what your missing.

    If you ever doubted the ‘straw man’ or the UCC-1 filings, you won’t doubt much longer after watching this.

    http://picasaweb.google.com/RiddleMtnMan/TIMTURNERSEMINARAPRIL20098PARTS?feat=directlink#

    Remember this seminar lasted a few days, so these 8 videos are about 1.5-2 hours each.

    Watch them, you’ll be glad you did.

  255. Fernley Girl // April 8, 2010 at 7:29 pm

    Still laughing . . . .

    So, how do his supporters know where to rally?

    Oh yeah, doesn’t take too long to call 20 people on the phone chain.

  256. Linda from NY @ 6:52 pm
    re: The three illegal immigrants are members of a notoriously violent street gang called Mara Salvatrucha (MS-13) that has spread throughout the country like the plague.”
    One of our girlfriends who is of South American extraction told us about these guys. They are beyond bad-think SS-that evil, cold blooded murderers. Her father is a wealthy businessman there (parents divorced) brother down there too. She is always afraid of kidnappings or murder. She said these were California gang bangers that were deported back to their own countries. I cannot emphasized enough how dangerous she said that they were.

  257. Fernley Girl

    Michelle // April 8, 2010 at 7:43 pm

    I had to make several calls (after NOT finding the schedule online) before I could get the info from the Nevada DNC. Very small turnout considering the lack of notice. He did bring his own pro-Harry sign-carriers with him. Got to talk to him, but he wouldn’t answer my question.

  258. PRWH -PF

    I was just waiting for him to say: And, of course, “the fraud in the WH.” But, instead, he said “you and me.”

    Can’t wait for them to be talking about the con THEY have perpetuated — the 2008 Presidential Election.

  259. Fernley Girl @ 8:19 pm
    You made the attempt at a question that is what counts. I don’t think these congress people can explain the Obama Bill because and I really believe this-they don’t understand a word of it.
    Something to the effect Obama says its good and we have to do what he says, like the mindless, spineless idiots that we are.
    DCP-Deranged Congressperson Syndrome-looks like it was contagious on the Dem side.

  260. Fernley Girl @ 8:19

    Just curious . . .

    What was your question? . . . if you don’t mind saying.

  261. A Little Humor and a stab at government bureaucracy .

    Part of rebuilding New Orleans caused residents often to be challenged with the task of tracing home titles back potentially hundreds of years.. With a community rich with history stretching back over two centuries, houses have been passed along through generations of family, sometimes making it quite difficult to establish ownership. Here’s a great letter an attorney wrote to the FHA on behalf of a client:

    You have to love this lawyer……..

    A New Orleans lawyer sought an FHA loan for a client. He was told the loan would be granted if he could prove satisfactory title to a parcel of property being offered as collateral. The title to the property dated back to 1803, which took the lawyer three months to track down. After sending the information to the FHA, he received the following reply.

    (Actual reply from FHA): “Upon review of your letter adjoining your client’s loan application, we note that the request is supported by an Abstract of Title. While we compliment the able manner in which you have prepared and presented the application, we must point out that you have only cleared title to the proposed collateral property back to 1803. Before final approval can be accorded, it will be necessary to clear the title back to its origin.” Annoyed, the lawyer responded as follows:

    (Actual response):

    “Your letter regarding title in Case No.189156 has been received. I note that you wish to have title extended further than the 206 years covered by the present application. I was unaware that any educated person in this country, particularly those working in the property area, would not know that Louisiana was purchased by the United States from France, in 1803 the year of origin identified in our application. For the edification of uninformed FHA bureaucrats, the title to the land prior to U.S. ownership was obtained from France, which had acquired it by Right of Conquest from Spain.

    The land came into the possession of Spain by Right of Discovery made in the year 1492 by a sea captain named Christopher Columbus, who had been granted the privilege of seeking a new route to India by the Spanish monarch, Queen Isabella. The good Queen Isabella, being a pious woman and almost as careful about titles as the FHA, took the precaution of securing the blessing of the Pope before she sold her jewels to finance Columbus’s expedition…Now the Pope, as I’m sure you may know, is the emissary of Jesus Christ, the Son of God, and God, it is commonly accepted, created this world.

    Therefore, I believe it is safe to presume that God also made that part of the world called Louisiana. God, therefore, would be the owner of origin and His origins date back to before the beginning of time, the world as we know it, and the FHA. I hope you find God’s original claim to be satisfactory. Now, may we have our damn loan?”

    The loan was immediately approved

  262. Michelle @ 8:29

    lol

    You said it. I don’t think they even KNOW what is in the bill. They didn’t even have enough time to read it.

    I agree with the conclusions of you and others awhile back. Bills no more than 20 or so pages.

    Each of the deathfare “provisions” should be a separate bill, anyway.

  263. ARMY D.A.V.

    Socialists , Gadsden flag will not fly at Connecticut Capitol .

    Tea Party , oh yes it will .

    http://www.necn.com/04/08/10/Tea-Party-flag-will-not-fly-at-Connectic/landing.html?blockID=212620&feedID=4215

  264. PRWH -PF

    That last post was refering to the MSNBC video. (duh on me)

  265. HonorFirst @ 8:36 pm
    A couple more lawyers like this guy/gal and the country is saved. That was delicious.

  266. Citizen Carlyle

    Portuguese Revolutionary War Hero – Peter Francisco // April 8, 2010 at 8:03 pm

    How many of you have listened to this Video???
    ===============================

    On one hand, yes, surprising. On the other hand, no. The information is incomplete and lopsided. Liberals love to bash on banks and other institutions of Capitalism.

    They totally missed or ignored the root cause that led to the “great con”. The Community Reinvestment Act (CRA), the subprime mortgages, the resulting derivatives and packaged securities, and “toxic assets”. The terrible and despicable mismanagement and pressures from the likes of Barney Frank and Chris Dodd. The blunders and malfeasance of these folks eclipse the mistakes made by Alan Greenspan.

    MSNBC’s rush to identify THE problem, and pin the tail on a particular donkey (Greenspan), makes it easier for the real culprits to go unpunished.

  267. Citizen Carlyle

    Michelle // April 8, 2010 at 8:29 pm
    ===========================
    EXACTLY

  268. !?!! @ 8:38 pm
    20 pages thats it, not 2700 pages of insanity. Lucky for the country I’m not potus. Anything that does not apply directly to the Constitution other than our military I would sell to the highest bidder, that’s what they are doing with the banks. For our national parks-sealed bid on a year to year basis (renewed).

  269. ARMY D.A.V. @ 8:38

    GO, Tea Party!!

    We the people OWN the Connecticut state capital.

  270. HonorFirst @ 8:36 pm
    I had to re-read the letter to the FHA. This is a gift this person has to tell the FHA what a bunch of idiots s/he believes them to be in the politest terms possible. Tracking back to 1803 was an achievement in and of itself.

  271. Hello, fellow patriots – I’ve been very busy with my accounting work today and this is the first chance to read your comments. You all, too, have been very active today with a number of different subjects! It has been an interesting read. Bear with me for a few comments:
    ******************************
    Citizen Carlyle – You said 11:29:

    Yes, I have listened to much of the “training” and read a lot of text. That is exactly why I think it is nonsense. I mean, come on already, what makes these guys worthy of being blindly followed? Are they demigods? How to you know they are not con artists? As far as 100 hours, I don’t know – but quality of research trumps hours.
    I repeat that none of us here has the wherewithal to vet these people. The only thing we can realistically do is to wait and see if they can actually DO anything difficult – or if any of their seemingly bizarre predictions come true.

    Then on your post at 1:10, you say:

    I repeat a key observation: We like to mock people for being “drawn in” to Obama. But many here seemed as easily drawn in to other theories. Of all people, we here, should know the dangers of following unvetted movements.

    ***********************************
    You have expressed my sentiments exactly. With all due respect to those who feel certain that all of this has to be on the up and up, we have to be careful that we have not been persuaded by charismatic leaders who convincingly tell us certain things. There is so much in this RAP that does not really add up.

    Having said that, isn’t this the beauty of the freedom of speech that we have in America? Here at this CW site we all have the opportunity to hear different ideas and opinions and can sort out the information for ourselves. We can be firm in our convictions but also gracious with others at the same time.

    There is much sincerity in all of the comments, and I appreciate that very much.

  272. Citizen Carlyle @ 8:43 pm
    Until we go all the way back to solve the problems of how we got into this mess it is not really resolved or understood so the mistakes are not repeated.
    All corporations close out their books once a month, once a year etc. Why do I get the sinking feeling somebody was tinkering with the books? Adding, subtracting, removing etc. I wonder if someone doesn’t need some RICO action.

  273. Michelle @ 8:47

    We need some really expert hackers to sneak in a program that only processes legislation that is constitutionally-based.

    All the other pages get returned to every person who voted yes on the bill, with detailed references to the parts of the Constitution that were violated,
    And . . . a big fine for every violation — for not doing their due diligence . . .

  274. Fernley Girl

    !?!! // April 8, 2010 at 8:33 pm

    I got some statistics from: tax foundation dot org

    When Reid first went to the Senate in 1986 Nevada was 33rd out of the 50 states on a per capita return of tax revenues sent to the federal government and then back to the state in federal spending. Now NV is 49th, and the Tax Foundation calls us a “donor state”. We get back sixty-five cents for every dollar we send in. New Mexico has been #1 since 1986, and while we got back 65 cents, they got $2.03 back for every dollar they sent to the federal government. I asked Reid, “What will you do to change those numbers in the next six years you’re in office?” He dismissed the numbers, and never answered my question.

    Press coverage of my encounter:

    http://newsmax.com/InsideCover/US-Reid-Campaign-Bus/2010/04/07/id/355052

    http://www.rgj.com/article/20100406/NEWS/100406064/Senator-Reid-bus-tour-hostility-praise

  275. Citizen Carlyle

    The South // April 8, 2010 at 7:42 pm
    =======================

    Somebody is pumping you guys full of happy legal sunshine. You can’t shut anybody or anything down this easily – just filing a complaint. That would be a serious lack of due process.

    This just doesn’t even pass the smell test.

    And if you all are betting all your hopes on whether something is capitalized or not, you are going to be very disappointed.

    Be sure you don’t give these guys any money. Unless you don’t care if they laugh all the way to the bank.

  276. Fernley Girl

    (page 2, both articles) Sorry.

  277. Please listen

    The show starts at 8 p.m. Central time or 7 p.m. Mountain and the link is http://www.blogtalkradio.com/drkate/2010/04/09/revolution-radio-walls-in-our-minds

    Call-in Number: (347) 838-9176

  278. Citizen Carlyle

    Michelle // April 8, 2010 at 8:59 pm
    ====================

    Ah, yes, but I am beginning to feel that it will be impossible to find anybody trustworthy and honest enough to do the digging and the analysis.

    When the overseers themselves are more corrupt than the overseen, what do you do?

    Seriously. I don’t have an answer.

  279. !?!! @ 8:59 pm
    That would be cool a data base that throws an exception if the data did not match the Constitution.
    I would have started with waste and fraud in the Health Care Industry, 60-80 billion per year gone that way, without touching anything with new laws. I would increase the penalties, fines and jail time-I mean real draconian if convicted.
    Florida just closed a bunch of what are called pain management clinics-really illicit drug operations run by criminal “doctors”. This in no way should be reflected on honest doctors who have patients who really are in terrible pain, as opposed to those who are fakers or drug addicts.

  280. Fernley Girl @ 9:02 pm
    and that is how they are trying to sell the census.

  281. ARMY D.A.V. // April 8, 2010 at 8:38 pm

    !?!! // April 8, 2010 at 8:53 pm

    Evening, Army and c.n.d.e.,

    Oh, the flag will fly in CT-I’m sure of it!

    One dumb azz commenting on the article. I hit her :).

  282. BILLS:

    !?!! // April 8, 2010 at 8:38 pm

    Michelle @ 8:29

    lol

    You said it. I don’t think they even KNOW what is in the bill. They didn’t even have enough time to read it.

    I agree with the conclusions of you and others awhile back. Bills no more than 20 or so pages.

    Each of the deathfare “provisions” should be a separate bill, anyway.
    ===================

    I believe that all bills should be HANDWRITTEN by the Original Sponsor and any amendments and final bill SHALL all be HANDWRITTEN.

    If the founding fathers had computers the COnstitution would be bigger than the Encyclopedia.

    Handwritten Bills.

    Also no more lawyers MONOPOLY we need Profession Diversity in DC. Congress shall be diversified and limited to not more than 20% of any one profession.

  283. Once again Ron Paul fights the good fight. What other politician do we have that would bring forth a bill/amendment like this?

    Repeal the 16th and abolish the Income Tax.

    http://www.dailypaul.com/node/131186

  284. Citizen Carlyle @ 9:07 pm
    My answer is drive them battier than they are driving you.
    WE THE PEOPLE over 300 million, them less than 1,000. We are responsible to each other, sad I have no idea who they feel any responsibility to. We will start by voting them out of office-more and more folks coming to the Tea Party everyday. It is our country, not their own personal plantation and/or piggy bank. I really think they should quit while they are ahead, but I don’t think they are that smart.

  285. Jacqlyn Smith – Please don’t feel that my comments are meant to diminish your zeal or enthusiasm re. RAP. Would that everyone could rise to the level of concern and commitment that you have! I mean that sincerely, not as flattery.

    You made a statement 1:33:

    “CC…..You have do what you think…..I am not trying to convince you….I’m just saying for me….I already know……some one high ranking is involved or these folks would all be in prison by now…..just think on it…..why aren’t they???”

    *******************************

    Well, let’s think about this for a moment. You stated elsewhere that you know that the military is involved. May I ask, on what basis do you KNOW? Have you independently verified this with any high-ranking military officer(s)? Or, are you taking their word for it?

    Then you ask why aren’t they already in prison, meaning that there MUST be some high-ranking person involved. This is an easy one to answer. There simply has been no law broken…..no basis for filing charges. Last week when the governors were served under RAP, you or others made comments that the FBI agents investigating were so nice; therefore, they must be in sympathy with RAP. The real issue here is that no laws had yet been broken, and, since the letters were not threatening, there would be no basis to file charges or make arrests. That is NOT conclusive evidence at all that the FBI is sympathetic to RAP causes.

    It seems to me that there is the possibility – I say, possibility – that this RAP is not meant for the purpose that you suppose. What if it has been designed to make some patriots look silly later on? Or, it could even be a set-up to snag well-be
    meaning patriots so that at a later date they could be discredited, or even “registered” as enemies of the state? Ponder these thoughts gently!

  286. Here is a glimpse of what is happening in Calif, Michigan, New York, etc and soon all across America.

    Just look at Socialist Greece when other people’s money ran out…

    http://in.reuters.com/article/marketsNewsUS/idINLDE6370QK20100408

  287. Citizen Carlyle // April 8, 2010 at 9:03 pm

    I respectfully AGREE with you

    “This just doesn’t even pass the smell test.”

    ditto!!!

  288. Cabby – AZ @ 8:59

    “Here at this CW site we all have the opportunity to hear different ideas and opinions and can sort out the information for ourselves. ”

    Amen to that!

    A refreshing difference from msm panels that model the spectrum of expected responses for us, or msm moderators who interpret a speech or announcement that we, ourselves, just heard.

    Contolled speech is so tiresome and boring.

  289. Fernley Girl // April 8, 2010 at 9:02 pm

    Pertinent and impressive question!!

    A really good lead for a true investigative reporter.

    His non-answer says it all: Nothing. Not important.

    My blood boils at the thought of the guy.

  290. Jacqlyn Smith

    Cabby – AZ // April 8, 2010 at 9:20 pm

    Jacqlyn Smith – Please don’t feel that my comments are meant to diminish your zeal or enthusiasm re. RAP. Would that everyone could rise to the level of concern and commitment that you have! I mean that sincerely, not as flattery.

    ******************************************

    Cabby…..Thank you but let’s just say I am letting the Lord guide my thinking and yes I do believe that what the RAP says is true and believable….and yes I do believe these folks would already be confined if they had not methodically planned all of this out…they have all been interviewed by the FBI and it has been reported that the FBI has been very accepting…..There are thousands of people involved in implementing this plan and several have already given testimony to being part of the plan…..I do take their word for it because it is not just one person’s word it is many!!! I don’t sweat the small stuff….looking silly isn’t even in the realm of any possibilities for me…I am just doing what I believe in my heart and mind is the right thing to do…..I think you will look silly for sitting on the side lines and doing nothing but complaining about what the FRAUD is doing all the while that the corporation is stealing your money and enslaving you for life to debt!

  291. bob strauss

    Fernley Girl, Those are some amazing figures about how Nevada is getting ripped off by the feds. This is another excuse to vote out the undertaker Harry Reid. How can that lout even look the people of Nevada in the eye? Even in good times 65 cents back out of every dollar sent to Washington is a miserable number. Now NV is looking at a budget shortfall. I’ll bet that other 35 cents would offset that shortfall.

  292. Citizen Carlyle said:

    Somebody is pumping you guys full of happy legal sunshine. You can’t shut anybody or anything down this easily – just filing a complaint. That would be a serious lack of due process.

    This just doesn’t even pass the smell test.

    And if you all are betting all your hopes on whether something is capitalized or not, you are going to be very disappointed.

    Be sure you don’t give these guys any money. Unless you don’t care if they laugh all the way to the bank.
    _________________________________

    Please allow me to educate you on the power of liens against elected officials, or anyone else for that matter.

    Please, take your time eating your crow sir.

    http://www.buildfreedom.com/tl/comliens.shtml

  293. Citizen Carlyle – 9:03 –
    You made this statement:

    “Be sure you don’t give these guys any money. Unless you don’t care if they laugh all the way to the bank.”

    DITTO – DITTO – DITTO

    These promoters are not doing all this for free, not according to their past history. Also, one must ask why the seminars are billed “for entertainment purposes only”? Some of these same folks have been doing similar work re. other subjects in the past, and it is alleged that there are people serving jail terms because they followed the promoted policies. This disclaimer apparently covers them legally? Why would this be necessary if everything were on the up and up? We need to seek the truth. Truth is based on fact, not feeling, regardless of our sincerity.

  294. from newsmax.com reference @
    Fernley Girl @ 9:02

    “It’s not me,” Reid said during an interview on his bus, as he munched nuts and dried apricots. “You can go to (Sen.) John McCain in Arizona, you can go to (Sen.) Barbara Boxer in California. It doesn’t matter where you go, there is a lot of dissatisfaction with the status quo.”

    Unbelievable!!

    YES! It’s you. It’s you. It IS you.

    No. People are dissatisfied with YOU and what YOU have done.

    No sense of personal responsibility/consequences there . . .

  295. Fernley Girl

    bob strauss // April 8, 2010 at 9:36 pm

    And you can add in the fact that the federal government now owns 90% of the state. THEY should be paying us rent for all the land they’ve stolen from us. All we can own is a little bit of land on either side of I-80, and a few spots in the southern part of the state. How the h*ll did that happen????

  296. Jacqlyn Smith

    Please allow me to educate you on the power of liens against elected officials, or anyone else for that matter.

    Please, take your time eating your crow sir.

    http://www.buildfreedom.com/tl/comliens.shtml
    *******************************************

    South….I don’t understand all of this…..there is a lot to take in but Tim Turner has been doing this for years and from what I understand he has taken down many law officials…..even whole court rooms…..thanks for the link!!

  297. Truthbetold11

    Go sovereign and never go back

  298. Hi, SueK.

    Good on ya — giving ’em a resounding verbal thwack.

    btw, thanks for the update on the flu and vaccines . .

  299. Michelle // April 8, 2010 at 9:09 pm

    Any of us here, and all of together could have produced a better (and shorter) document, no sweat.

    That bill was never about improving medical care or the health of the American people, as we all know.

  300. !?!!- Isn’t it something to behold the arrogance, self-deception, and elitism of Harry Reid (and others of the same ilk)? Those Dems are looking through rose-colored glasses or have had a bit too much to drink?!? To people like that, when we say “NO'” they think it means “YES”! Sickening!!

  301. Citizen Carlyle and other non believers.

    The Constitution is an Enforceable Contract.

    http://www.buildfreedom.com/tl/comliens.shtml

    You people need to do more research, and stop trying to detour others who are working towards a practical solution.

    These Governors broke their contracts by breaking their oaths of office.

    This is how Tim Turner and the others were able to put LIENS on their bonds.

  302. Jacqlyn Smith // April 8, 2010 at 12:36 pm

    #

    You are the world’s worst about misreading other’s points..

    Michael Steele needs to go…….most are glad someone pointed out the misuse of these funds….

    My point is —no sabotage…..Steele and associates weren’t even trying to hide the misuse!!!

    Just glad it wasn’t my contribution.

  303. http://www.rightnetwork.com/
    This is the site that is being promoted by the Tea Party Express.

  304. http://www.breitbart.tv/poll-obama%e2%80%99s-overall-job-approval-rating-drops-to-new-low/
    Fox News: Two weeks after President Obama signed the new health care bill, opposition to it remains strong. In addition, the president’s legislative victory did not help his job approval rating, which hit a new low in a Fox News poll released Thursday.

  305. TO:
    !?!! // April 8, 2010 at 9:49 pm

    Michelle // April 8, 2010 at 9:09 pm

    Any of us here, and all of together could have produced a better (and shorter) document, no sweat.

    That bill was never about improving medical care or the health of the American people, as we all know.
    ==================

    That bill has alot of fillers to hide all the pop amd madcow disease that we are being Force Fed.

  306. Cabby – AZ // April 8, 2010 at 9:52 pm

    I truly am flummoxed about what to DO with such people.

    Their “alternate reality” is truly threatening to the lives and livelihood of the rest of us.

    They deserve jail. They deserve punitive fines.

    Nevada needs to fine Reid and all the other Nevada reps who voted yes. Maybe that’d make up that 35% of their budget.

  307. SapphireSunday

    Citizen Carlyle // April 8, 2010 at 8:43 pm: I agree 100% with your take on the CRA. Nobody likes bankers, but they’re all not Mr. Potter. The fault lies more with Barney Frank, and Greenspan, Geithner , Volcker, et al have more than enough ‘splainin to do.

    jbjd ought to know about liens. Did anyone ask her opinion on the plausibility of this procedure?

  308. Jacqlyn Smith

    #

    JJ // April 8, 2010 at 9:58 pm

    Jacqlyn Smith // April 8, 2010 at 12:36 pm

    #

    You are the world’s worst about misreading other’s points..

    Michael Steele needs to go…….most are glad someone pointed out the misuse of these funds….

    My point is —no sabotage…..Steele and associates weren’t even trying to hide the misuse!!!

    Just glad it wasn’t my contribution.
    *****************************************

    JJ…How so……the same could be said of you….I didn’t say they were trying to hide anything….I was just wondering why someone else ‘s opinion was such an insult to you…..Some of your posts are just one or two words and many times seem quite vague so we are left to read between the lines……some here don’t see Steele as a vilan….others do…. that is your right…..I doubt we ever agree…..seems like our insights and beliefs are opposite…..I like Steele and I don’t think he did anything wrong…..he is not the one who went to the Strip Bar….why not go after those Repubs…..however I could care less if Steele stays or goes…..I don’t send money to any parties…..I give to conservative candidates who will uphold the original constitution and who are Pro-life……the two most important issues for me!!

  309. The South – 9:52 PM – You say to Citizen Carlyle and all the other non-believers:

    “You people need to do more research, and stop trying to detour others who are working towards a practical solution.”

    Let me say that first of all, you advocates have given enough information and there is enough out there in cyberspace for me to be highly suspicious. Have you done any INDEPENDENT research or are you listening to those who have convinced you and others that they are right? Your research should go out beyond what they are saying before you hang so much on to this RAP.

    I fail to see how a frank discussion of both sides is “trying to detour others”. If we are right about something , the other side can’t hurt us at all. It has never been my intention to detour anyone from pursuing their convictions; however, if something negative has come to light
    I would want to know about it. Aren’t we in pursuit of truth? Or do we want to simply hold onto something – anything at all – to alleviate our fears and give us hope?

  310. You would FINE them? Isn’t that a little too harsh?
    These people are committing treason against the American people!!! They are trying to wipe out our livelihoods, take our property and then if we get sick, give us a pain pill and send us away to die.

  311. The Marriage License, like the Birth Certificate is a contract between you and the STATE.

    Here’s the Fraud behind the License:
    Those who apply for and marry pursuant to a marriage license have now added a third party to their marriage contract. The third party is the Master by and through his Agent, the Corporate State. The marriage license bestows the State with the legal right to decide the fate of the husband, wife and the possessions they procured during their marriage, should the marriage fail. Their divorce must now be decided by and through the State’s Corporate Court by a Corporate Judge, and the Judge’s first and foremost concern is the “interest of the State.” The interest of the bride and groom is now secondary. [See: VanKosten v. VanKosten, 154 N.E. 146]. A comment by the Judge deciding this divorce says it all! “The ultimate ownership of all property is the State: individual so-called ownership is only by virtue of government, [i.e.] laws amounting to mere use must be in accordance with law and subordinate to the necessities of the state.” [Also See: Senate Document No. 43 of the 73rd Congress, 1st Session] and [Brown v. Welch, U. S. Superior Court].

    Is the light bulb coming on for some of you yet?

    Everything you’ve ever signed in the form of a contract (i.e. drivers license, marriage license, birth certificate) legally binds/contracts you to the STATE.

    The STATE is now you’re new owner.

    Did you willfully sign on to this contract?

    Yes.

    Did the disclose all the facts?

    No.

    Can you reverse this travesty?

    Yes.

    ANSWER: File your UCC-1 and become a Secure Party Creditor for your strawman.

  312. All involved……Steele is a big boy, and can handle himself…..I have bigger things to consider at this time when our nation is regrouping and recovering our stand on principles and hard work.

    Go RAP…if God willing.

  313. SapphireSunday

    Harry Reid sitting in his bus, snacking on apricots and nuts, is an image I can do without. What was he smoking or snorting? That’s what I’d like to know. He’s way too laid back. Don’t you think?

  314. FIREWORKS !!! @@@~~@@!!!

    Congressman gets SCHOOLED and SCOLDED he should e forced to RESIGN.

  315. Cabby AZ said:

    Let me say that first of all, you advocates have given enough information and there is enough out there in cyberspace for me to be highly suspicious. Have you done any INDEPENDENT research or are you listening to those who have convinced you and others that they are right? Your research should go out beyond what they are saying before you hang so much on to this RAP.
    _________________________________

    Have I done any INDEPENDENT research?

    Have you been awake for the last two days around here?

    Jump off your soap box, and go back and read all the links and videos that have been posted here over the last two days, then ask me again if I’ve done any INDEPENDENT research.

    Some people.

  316. Jacqlyn Smith

    The South // April 8, 2010 at 10:17 pm

    The Marriage License, like the Birth Certificate is a contract between you and the STATE.

    ********************************************

    South……You are doing a great job explaining things….unfortunately others need to do more homework as you say! I don’t profess to understand it all but what I do get is if we don’t do something soon we are about to loose our freedom and our rights to these evil SOB’s……do you think after Monday the Federal Reserve was dissloved??? GBAmerica says NO federal tax was taken out of his check today……that seems odd to me too!!!!

  317. Michelle @ 10:01 p.m.

    “the president’s legislative victory”

    Talk about a euphemism! Re-word.

    the fraud’s lying, scheming, cheating, illegal, non-legislative hocus pocus wrongly touted as the passage of a bill into law

  318. CC….as I indicated before…..I am way past the wait and see….I have plenty of facts, research, analysis and guidance from my Creator the Lord Jesus Christ…etc. ….that tells me to get busy and actively involved…..NO MORE wait and see for me thank you!!
    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Agreed, for I fear the more we wait, the more the bastards steal!!!!!!!

  319. Jacqlyn Smith

    #

    JJ // April 8, 2010 at 10:18 pm

    All involved……Steele is a big boy, and can handle himself…..I have bigger things to consider at this time when our nation is regrouping and recovering our stand on principles and hard work.

    Go RAP…if God willing.
    ******************************************

    JJ…..That I agree on!!! YES!!!!!:)

  320. Jacqlyn Smith

    #

    SapphireSunday // April 8, 2010 at 10:18 pm

    Harry Reid sitting in his bus, snacking on apricots and nuts, is an image I can do without. What was he smoking or snorting? That’s what I’d like to know. He’s way too laid back. Don’t you think?
    ******************************************

    SS….Probably something he borrowed from the FRAUD….ewwww!!!

  321. Read the short piece by Savage re. Obama, the
    Destroyer-in-Chief. This is deadly, serious stuff.
    On another thread yesterday there was discussion among some about O’s security clearance, or lack thereof. Here he is today signing away our national defenses:

    http://www.michaelsavage.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=11001

    It’s not for the faint of heart, but it’s the truth.

  322. SapphireSunday

    JS: Exactly what I was thinking. Remember, he did sell it way back in the old days, when he hung out with Uncle Frank, not to mention that he admitted to using it. But those are facts the lamestream media doesn’t care to investigate. Too busy rummaging through Sarah Palin’s trashcan or perusing RNC expense accounts.

  323. PRWH – PF

    “he should e forced to RESIGN”

    Now we’re talkin.’ Otherwise, we the people reap the rueful results down the road.

    Cut off the money. Increase complaints in the newspapers, media, talk shows.
    Show up in great numbers with “Resign Now” signs.
    Put pressure on the “party leaders” to pressure the incumbents to resign. Make more trouble than it’s worth for the party leaders.

  324. Jacqlyn Smith

    #

    SapphireSunday // April 8, 2010 at 10:30 pm

    JS: Exactly what I was thinking. Remember, he did sell it way back in the old days, when he hung out with Uncle Frank, not to mention that he admitted to using it. But those are facts the lamestream media doesn’t care to investigate. Too busy rummaging through Sarah Palin’s trashcan or perusing RNC expense accounts.
    ***************************************

    Or maybe sneaking out of the house for a sexual encounter with….UMMUMMUM….Let’s not go there!

  325. SapphireSunday // April 8, 2010 at 10:18 pm

    Harry Reid sitting in his bus, snacking on apricots and nuts, is an image I can do without. What was he smoking or snorting? That’s what I’d like to know. He’s way too laid back. Don’t you think?
    ___

    I say…… You are What you Eat. This just proves he is NUTS and a Fruit to boot.

  326. The Marriage License, like the Birth Certificate is a contract between you and the STATE.

    Here’s the Fraud behind the License:

    Is the light bulb coming on for some of you yet?

    *******************************

    Yes , it all sounds like one of Charles Manson’s rants.

  327. South……You are doing a great job explaining things….unfortunately others need to do more homework as you say! I don’t profess to understand it all but what I do get is if we don’t do something soon we are about to loose our freedom and our rights to these evil SOB’s……do you think after Monday the Federal Reserve was dissloved??? GBAmerica says NO federal tax was taken out of his check today……that seems odd to me too!!!!
    ________________________________

    I doubt the Fed was dissolved, but I believe it’s days are numbered.

    END THE FED is a pretty hot topic these days 🙂

    I do believe that if it’s true what Tim and the others are doing by arresting the governors bonds, we may see some serious changes in the coming weeks and months.

    These Governors are going to have to make some serious changes in their STATES before those liens are removed.

    I doubt Tim would just remove the LIEN without some serious legal stipulations for them to abide by.

    Placing liens on public officials and their bonds is a very powerful move.

    It’s actually our strongest legal recourse to keep crooked attorneys, judges, officials in check.

  328. Yes , it all sounds like one of Charles Manson’s rants.
    ___________________________________

    Go back to sleep, we’ll wake you up when we need you.

  329. !?!! // April 8, 2010 at 9:45 pm

    Hi c.n.d.e.,

    Yep, I’ll smack ’em appropriately :).

    Flu-is-me. Glad to provide an update and happy you found it useful.

  330. SapphireSunday

    JS: Agreed. We won’t go there.

  331. Jacqlyn Smith

    WTH…..more fiction from Casper……..I doubt it is true!!!! Does anyone know who this character is????
    found at…..

    http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/nesara/news/news.php?q=1270780803
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Thursday, April 8, 2010
    Casper 4-8-10 #2
    Tonight John Roberts is trying hard to sell the storyline that Obama and many Senators and Congressmen have been arrested.

    Don’t buy it, WE didn’t. Anything coming from this fellow is Bull_hit.

    WE hear he is the only Supreme Court Judge whose name is on “the list”.

    Because deliveries did not occur today, the Court has been and continues to be ‘In Session’.

    Much is happening.

    WE must remain quiet for a while.

    WE await the outcome of the meetings.

    casper 4-8-10 p.m.

  332. Ponder this:

    Academics only redefine what constitutes a wrong in their endless pursuits of an unrealistic utopian existence. It would be far wiser to redefine academia as a group satisfied to read about the contents of Pandora’s box, even though they claim to gather wisdom from reading.

    Unfortunately one can not gain wisdom and common sense from academics, nor can one be satisfied that something is real until it is experienced first hand. The proper observation would be; if a cat has nine lives and curiosity has so far killed eight of them, has it learned enough to save it’s last life?

    For those of you who have bickered all day, I invite you to reflect upon this, and how it applies to your viewpoints.

  333. Actually, my first preference is for the army to arrest Reid, Pelosi, o., et al., hold them in a military prison and try them for treason.

    Since that seems an unlikely outcome, I’m for anything that takes Reid “off the streets” and protects the rest of us from him and his delusions. And anything that redistributes his wealth back to the citizens whom he has used, abused, and fleeced.

  334. Jacqlyn Smith

    South…..I think why folks don’t believe is because this is all so out there……it is simple but at the same time it is difficult for most people to comprehend and get their brain around it all….I want to stay on top of it so I will try and read and listen to everything I can…..I do remember Tim saying he himself has millions and millions of dollars worth of arrested bonds…..I guess he is referring to the liens….I need to read and think about it more!

  335. Jacqlyn Smith

    CRB // April 8, 2010 at 10:44 pm

    Ponder this:

    *****************************************

    Woah…..that’s very deep but I like it!!!

  336. Jacqlyn Smith

    #

    !?!! // April 8, 2010 at 10:45 pm

    Actually, my first preference is for the army to arrest Reid, Pelosi, o., et al., hold them in a military prison and try them for treason.

    Since that seems an unlikely outcome, I’m for anything that takes Reid “off the streets” and protects the rest of us from him and his delusions. And anything that redistributes his wealth back to the citizens whom he has used, abused, and fleeced.
    *****************************************

    Yes….I second that! 🙂

  337. Here is what I have to say on the discussion of Restoring the Republic:

    Just like there are the blind supporter for Obamaiar even today and even when he is removed and arrested and 50 yrs from now they will still be saying how great he was and how he was going to fix the world and the heavens, etc… so too there are Patriots that will DOUBT and DOUBT and not move a feather to helpd themsleves instead they will deter those that want to help everyone.

    Did you see the news that 30 governors got a letter?

    Did you see the MSNBC video that I posted earlier?

    THOSE ARE TWO CLEAR SIGNS from the COMPLICIT CORRUPT LIEBERAL Media. If they are reporting it is because something happening.

    Some of the apostles didn’t believe Jesus was RESTORED EITHER.

    Tim Turner has been at this project for 10 yrs. Restore the Republic has been in the works for over 2 yrs that is During Bush’s regime.

    I gave you the links to listen FREE too Hundreds of people that are DOING IT and talking to Tim Turner and others, having tehir questions answered, etc. Talking about tehri successes. THIS IS HAPPENING.

    Did you see the Documentary by Mr Russo made in 2005?

    That is REALITY…..

    Here it is again for you too see:

    http://www.republicmedia.tv/?p=283

    IT IS HAPPENING whether it is successful or not it is BETTER than what you are doing and better than anythign that has happened since 1776 or since the Corruption started in 1871.

    IT IS HAPPENING….some belive and some doubt…..maybe you have to stick your fingers in the wounds first. Blessed are those that believe without seeing. Jesus Christ (some don’t believe his sory either) but they easily believe about Dinosours, Unicorns and the Easter Bunny.

    See the VIDEO and get educated otherwise you will be doing what they taught you to do….be a dumbed down sheeple.

    DISMANTLE AND RESTORE.
    IT IS HAPPENING!!!

    PS those of you not savy on computers when you wnat to go to a link BUT not loose your place here Right Click on the Link and then click on Open In New Window (sometimes Shift + Click will also open in new window and keep this window open.)

  338. JSmith said:

    South…..I think why folks don’t believe is because this is all so out there……it is simple but at the same time it is difficult for most people to comprehend and get their brain around it all….I want to stay on top of it so I will try and read and listen to everything I can…..I do remember Tim saying he himself has millions and millions of dollars worth of arrested bonds…..I guess he is referring to the liens….I need to read and think about it more!
    _________________________________

    JS, the reason these people don’t believe, is because they are to damn lazy to do the hundreds of hours of research it takes to learn the facts.

    Hell, if they’d do 20 hours of research, they’d wake up, but again, that’s to much trouble.

    It’s just a lot easier to chime in on conversations with no knowledge at all within the subject, and claim it’s bogus.

    People are lazy, I can’t do anything about that.

    Catch you guys tomorrow, It’s bed time.

  339. Sue K.

    Really. Let’s send you to DC asap. Talk about the need for some righteous head smackin’.

    Your spot-on analyses of life’s daily dealings, from flu vaccines to earthquakes to storms would look great, as needed, on the new t.v. network.

    In fact, the whole C.W. blog is a great source for excellent news, discussion, and commentary. Wouldn’t everyone look great on t.v.?!

    I do pass the flu info and people are glad for the info.

  340. GBAmerica // April 8, 2010 at 3:59 pm

    Just got home and recieved paystub in mail and there was NO Federal taxes taken out!I’m calling company in morning because they are closed.Can anyone else check there’s?Just wondering if possible they messed up??Please check your paystubs.Thank You!
    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I explained my situation and many other women’s earlier in January……….
    O, the azzhole, had women thinking they were bringing home more each week.

    The truth is if you are a single woman with children, you WILL take home more; however, if you are making minimum wage, part-time, and have no children and a husband that works, take out 12 % of your net and save it………for the tax rates weren’t altered for this and you will pay it back. So don’t get excited about that 12 %.

    Got it??

  341. The South

    Go back to sleep, we’ll wake you up when we need you.

    ******************

    Ok, In other words, shut up for now stupid , we’ll call you when we need you , like we did in 1966.

  342. Citizen Don in California

    !?!! // April 8, 2010 at 11:01 pm
    ……..Wouldn’t everyone look great on t.v.?!
    /////////////////
    Answer: NO. My face would break the tv cameras and I would get sued. I can’t afford that.

  343. TOO MANY DOUBTERS & NOT ENOUGH DOERS??

    The Remote Control and Clapper Society has been programmed by the CORPORATION…making it easier to Plunder the Nation.

    WAKE UP….IT IS HAPPENING!!

    Did you see the MSNBC News Video?

  344. I checked the Texas website and it did not seem very official to me, although I don’t know if it has recently been changed or not. It did seem curious the web address did not end in .gov, but ended in .tx.us. I thought this was a bit odd and checked out a few other states and all their web addresses ended in .gov. Does anyone have any insights into this. Is it a benign anomaly or perhaps a harbinger of what other states might be contemplating?

  345. The FEDERAL CON….The Godafther of Corporation Corruptions.

    Visit msnbc.com for breaking news, world news, and news about the economy

  346. South, You explained the “arresting bonds” the best I’ve been able to understand yet! Thank you…it took me a leap forward. 🙂

  347. PRWH – PR

    I must admit that the very fact that these reports ARE coming from the news media raises questions in my mind.

    I really, seriously, adamantly do not trust the msm to operate with my best interests in mind, ever. They have their own purposes for what they do, which do not often coincide with my purposes for my own life.

    But then . . . ever since my trust got broken (rather, smashed to smithereens), I look at much of life with a wary (but enjoying) eye.

    I have the same appreciation as many for the exchange of ideas and variety of viewpoints on this blog. I trust the input here far more than the msm.

  348. !?!! // April 8, 2010 at 11:01 pm
    In fact, the whole C.W. blog is a great source for excellent news, discussion, and commentary. Wouldn’t everyone look great on t.v.?!
    =======================

    That’s why I come here. I learn so much from this diverse group.

    I’ve been trying to digest all the comments these past few days and some are difficult to swallow. But sometimes, so is medicine. I want to understand the RAP and the ccc1 thing so I’ll reread and re-view the links.

    I am excited about the new TV network. We were talking here on this blog a month or two about our hopes of someone starting a Conservative channel. Looks like we’ll have one soon! It appears to be entertainment programming but I hope they have some REAL news and a few talk shows.

    Does anybody remember America’s Voice, a conservative cable channel, broadcast about 10 years ago? Alan Keyes and Michael Reagan had their own shows. Good stuff!

  349. Crystal, The website stuff is very interesting to me. I wish we had previous shots of the pages to compare to. I’ve just never paid attention to any of that stuff.

    I don’t think even lower case is acceptable if it says “State of Maine” I think the “State of” is suppose to be a corporate reference. If anyone is computer savvy and can get side by side old and new pics that would be awesome to see.

  350. The Media is REPORTING some of this because they are trying to MINIMIE the issue.

    The MSNBC Video is CYA.

    The 30 Governor News was an attempt at propaganda trying to RIDICULE by saying that 30 governors got letters and FBI was looking into if it was a THREAT.

    IT IS HAPPENING!!!!

    DISMANTLE & RESTORE

  351. Citizen Don in California // April 8, 2010 at 11:10 pm

    hahahaha

    I doubt it.

    If so, you just sue the station, first, for extreme emotional distress you experienced from their cameras breaking on you.

    oh, wait. This station is on our side. Nah. You wouldn’t get sued.

    I don’t watch t.v., but I would tune in to see you heroes who have served our country so well, with so little thanks.

  352. WE DON’T LIVE IN A DEMOCRACY this is part of the CON.

    We live in a Gangster Evil Corporation and are supposed to live in a REPUBLIC.

    DISMANTLE & RESTORE

  353. Citizen Carlyle

    The South // April 8, 2010 at 9:37 pm

    Please allow me to educate you on the power of liens against elected officials, or anyone else for that matter.

    Please, take your time eating your crow sir.

    http://www.buildfreedom.com/tl/comliens.shtml

    =============================

    Oh dear oh dear – Don’t you remember when I told you the Internet was a giant cesspool of disinformation?

    How do you know any of this is true or reasonable? Are you an expert in law? Do you just believe anything you read?

    Don’t you see that this just all goes in a circle. A small group of people self-referencing each other to lend “credibility” to each other?

    SIGH

  354. Ok off to listen to more EDUCATIONAL Files on RESTORING OUR COUNTRY.

    Good Night God Open Your Minds and Bless You.

    Boa Noite/ Good Night

  355. Citizen Don in California

    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=138293

    ——————————————————————————–
    BORN IN THE USA?

    NPR archive describes Obama as ‘Kenyan-born’
    Description accompanies interview about ‘son of Africa’

    ——————————————————————————–
    Posted: April 08, 2010
    11:30 pm Eastern

    By Bob Unruh
    © 2010 WorldNetDaily

    Those crazy “birthers” are citing National Public Radio.

    Really? NPR?

    Archives for the tax-supported organization reveal that a 2008 report described then-Sen. Barack Obama as “Kenyan-born” and a “son of Africa.”

    /////////////////////
    Even more showing that we have an illegal president.

  356. Citizen Carlyle

    The South // April 8, 2010 at 10:23 pm

    Have I done any INDEPENDENT research?

    ==========================

    Independent research means looking yourself or reading analyses from an unbiased third party. Reading the propaganda pieces put out by the perpetrators does not count as independent. In fact is is just the opposite.

  357. OldSalt

    You have mail , thanks buddy.

  358. Jonah —

    Yeah. We were just saying . . . . . and, now, here comes the network.

    Lots of good stuff happening amongst we the people.

    Lots of thinking going on. That’s a great sign.

  359. PRWH – PR

    The ridicule angle gives me a new perspective. I had only picked up on the report being the lead story.

    Thanks for more points to ponder.

  360. To The South – Me thinkest thou protesteth too much!

    Wow, Talk about getting on the defensive! I thought we should all be civil in our discourse.

    Why do we have to get so testy?

  361. Kim,

    btw,
    Thanks for the mention of the new network in your video and for posting the link to their site. I told some friends I would try to find out the link, and voila! You have already provided.

  362. Does anyone know if the Lawless Out Of Control Gangster Judge Land’s sanctions ordered and bribed by the Completely Corrupt & Lawless Illegal Alien, Constant Liar-Power-Mad Demon Possessed Usurper Barack Hussein Obama II/Barry Soetoro, who bribed the Lawless Gangster Land to attack Dr. Orly with 100% Unlawful sanction, is on appeal?

    http://conservativeamericannews.com/american-grand-jury/11th-circuit-court-of-appeals-attorney-orly-taitz-must-pay-20000-in-sanctions-2

    Let’s remember that Barack Hussein Obama II/Barry Soetoro is a Constant Deliberate Liar who is Constantly Daily Lying 24/7/365 to ALL of the 310+ Million USA Citizens Faces Each & Every Time He Speaks a Word – Barack Obama is Lying to ALL Americans, as Barack Obama is hiding ALL of his Personal USA I.D. Citizenship Records and Documents under seal!!

    P.S. Oh No!! It is sad to see on Leo’s old blog that Leo Donofrio still somehow mantains he believes that O was born in HI. How sad is it that someone with a Ph.d in law (Leo) can be so fooled, gullible, and naive….

  363. Texas Patriot

    Starla-

    Have you run out of sugar for your Kool-Aid?

    Maybe just a little sarcasim?

  364. JS: Exactly what I was thinking. Remember, he did sell it way back in the old days, when he hung out with Uncle Frank, not to mention that he admitted to using it. But those are facts the lamestream media doesn’t care to investigate. Too busy rummaging through Sarah Palin’s trashcan or perusing RNC expense accounts
    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Or Joe, the plumber’s cat litter box.

  365. Is there anyone still awake that can summarize the conflict going on here at the moment?

  366. Is there anyone still awake that can summarize the conflict going on here at the moment?

  367. Heard Sam Or Tim from RAP say we will be wealthy soon and families can return to one member working as in old days.

    Reckon a commerical lien has been placed on IRS/banks to return the hundred of trillions back to the peoples. Just a thought!!

  368. Ladyhawke // April 9, 2010 at 1:31 am

    Is there anyone still awake that can summarize the conflict going on here at the moment?

    Bluntly??

    Some of us believe since the media and radio news are picking up the ’50 governors served the declaration papers’ story, we think it may be truth and happening…….others think there’s not a snowball chance in hell that it’s happening as the Guardians say…..

    Got it??

  369. Texas Patriot,

    Who in the world knows what you are talking about! I am a Christian servant of GOD.

    I thirst for truth and righteousness, virtues, and holines, and Godliness in America, and I don’t see many people giving that to us in the USA Government.

    No, I will never out of sugar ; )!! My kind of sugar is sweet wild honey ; )!!

  370. Texas Patriot,

    You can keep “the kool-aid.” I never touch the stuff. My common sense tells me to stay away from crimes, lies, and sins against GOD.

  371. Texas Patriot at 1: 15 am,

    I never run out of sugar: )!! My kind of sugar is sweet wild honey ; )!!

    Tonight, I am reading, “America, The Owner’s Manual, Making Government Work For You,” by Sen. Bob Graham with Chris Hand.

    I have a research paper due in two weeks.

  372. Okay. Long wordiness upcoming. Repetition of a theme. You’ve read it all before.

    Gotta get my say in, though. Just in case I get to say, “I told you so . . . ” to the powers that be.

    A word to the wise for you world leaders . . .

    I feel duty bound in all honesty to apprise you of the fact that Mr. Obama has no authority to represent the American people in a legal contract, a truth many of you already know, but refuse to acknowledge, to your own peril.

    I am an American citizen. I have an implicit and explicit (via the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution) contract with the elected officials whom the electorate of U.S. citizens has vested, through duly constituted and lawful voting processes, with the responsibility to govern our wonderful nation.

    Mr. Obama has yet to comply with our contract, that unique, American agreement between the governors and the governed, which rests upon the consent of the governed.

    Contrary to Mr. Obama’s twisted-think, I am in no way bound to prove that Mr. Obama is eligible to preside as President of my country. Likewise, I am under no obligation, legal or otherwise, to give cause as to why Mr. Obama should present me, the American citizen, with verification of his claims to the presidency.

    The burden to present himself as an eligible candidate according to the Constitution rests solely upon Mr. Obama, not upon the citizens of the United States, nor upon the existence of a state or federal statute specifically outlining such requirement.

    His refusal to meet even the preliminary terms of our contract, effectively absolves me from being bound by any form of that contract, and, at the same time, self-evidently disqualifies him from the authority to govern.

    Specifically, since Mr. Obama has failed to provide any valid documentation proving that he does meet the explicit and implicit requirements for the office of POTUS, I am under no legal, binding contract to comply with any actions, contracts, agreements, treaties, legislation, executive orders, or other directives issued or signed by him.

    Therefore, be neither surprised nor dismayed when your agreements with him are not honored by the United States citizens. We owe you no compliance. An ineligible president neither represents us, nor acts on our behalf.

    Further, contrary to Mr. Obama’s twisted-think, the American president cannot serve in any capacity as an officer of the United Nations, or any other business or agency.

    By fulfilling an extra-presidential office, Mr. Obama has, himself, voided his position and authority as the American President.

    He is, instead, acting by his own made-up rules, not in accordance with American government. He does not define American governance. Rather, our American way of governance disqualifies and indicts him.

    To accomplish the process of holding Mr. Obama accountable for his numerous crimes against the American people is requiring much time and effort. The outcomes yet remain in the balance.

    In sum, I am an American citizen. For numerous, evidentiary reasons, Mr. Obama is not the president of my country. Loyalty to my nation and to the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution of the United States requires my noncompliance with his false administration. I, therefore, consider myself and the citizens of my country to be under no obligation to fulfill any promises made to any person or nation by Mr. Obama on my behalf.

    The fates and fortunes of men and women are in the hands of the living God. If my God so chooses, He will empower my right and my cause (not mine alone, but that of millions of Americans) in this case. Only in the power of His authority can we prevail against Mr. Obama’s overwhelming deception and blatant lawlessness.

    The consequences of your own decisions, in the face of America’s unique predicament at this moment in history, fall upon your own heads.

  373. JJ, Thank you. Is there a consensus?

  374. JJ, Thank you. Is there a consensus?

  375. I don’t quiet understand this governor’s thing?? Who is asking for their removal?? I don’t understand this. Who is the provost? Is this for real or just another fluke?

  376. Citizen Carlyle…………………………
    On the last thread you touted your knowledge relating to nuclesr fission, etc. I couldn’t help wonder if you have ever been involved in any of the testing programs,either in the US or in the Marshall Islands; Eniwetok,Bikini Atoll.? This is something that really fascinates me. Perhaps you could be so kind as to tell me a little about nuclear energy as it relates to weapons. Can you tell me what operation Castle was about?

  377. South……………………….
    Couldn’t sleep to well this morning,too much coffee last night I guess,or perhaps it was founded in something else. Maybe I will figure it out as I go.
    Maybe it will help me some if I post a comment, so hear goes……
    Human spirit is something which I greatly admire in people. Some stand up recite a thousand words yet say nothing. Others stand up say a like number of words and say volumes. Some get up say a lot of words and either unintentionally offend, or deliberately craft their words to INTENTIONALLY offend a specific person,or organisation. Lord knows that I personally have in the past offended people in both aspects. I try very hard not to offend anyone,but still state my viewpoint as well. After I thought about what I had stated I roundly apologised to everybody,and in particular those who I offended. Again I state that I have not been an angel with regard to my language. I am working hard on this. I recently made a lewd reply relating to someone else’s comment about dung beetles. Once again I must apologise to everyone who read it. There is still something bothering me though. Do you suppose that you might specifically apologise to ARMY DAV. I believe that your remarks were like mine…..innapropriate. This is in regard to a comment you made which implied that he “should go back to sleeep,and you will wake him up if you need him.” In addition to this I would feel the need to ask you if you ever carried a rifle in armed conflict? He did……do you know what the DAV refers to.? In case you don’t it says DISABLED ARMY VETERAN. He received that disability protecting YOUR interests. Maybe it would be appropriate to THANK him instead of telling him to “SHUT UP” I realise that I am hardly the person who should be lecturing on keeping things on the up and up. But I am trying. Will you help in keeping things enjoyable? I personally feel a certain kinship with him in that we both were in the military services, which is why I am asking you to reconsider your words. Thanks for your help. I think it makes us stronger when we clean up our acts. Again,no offense just trying to show ARMY DAV a little kindness.

  378. !?!!…………………………………….

    Great comment! You have an excellent command of grammer.

  379. GRAMMER= GRAMMAR sorry!

  380. Dr. Kate writes very excellent works. If you go through her web site blog you can read them.

    Here’s one that outlines and highlights the pain and heartbreak of Americans suffering from the Serial Liar Illegal Immigrant – Illegal Alien Constant Serial Crimes being committed against the USA Sovereign and Free American Citizens by the Usurper Barack Hussein Obama II/Barry Soetoro who has declared WAR on America and on Americans and who is trying to overthrow our country’s government right now!

    http://drkatesview.wordpress.com/2010/04/05/suffering-for-our-sanity/

  381. oldsalt78:

    I love all of your sweet comments!
    Your comments give my heart a smile and a cheerful day when I read them!!

  382. Good Morning! I enjoy checking Drudge first thing. His headlines are good this morning. We’ve known this for years. Zach

    GINGRICH: Obama ‘most radical president ever’…
    LIMBAUGH: Obama ‘inflicting untold damage on this great country’…
    PALIN: Obama’s Nuke Stance Like Kid Who Says ‘Punch Me in Face’…
    LIZ CHENEY: Obama Putting America on ‘Path to Decline’…
    SAVAGE: ‘Obama The Destroyer’…

  383. The Dafordills that Janet planeted last fall, over by the wall, have all bloomed, (Pics when the sun comes out again), The Crocuses have also bloomed. The White bellied Nuthatches, the Yellow Finch and the Cardinal were all out to great me this morning. Then the dog started to go nuts so I went to look at what she was yapping about and there were 1 big ass buck and four doe walking through the woods by the stream….Sometimes it’s just great to get up in the morning..Happy Friday!

  384. Emergency Presidential election in November??
    Can not afford to let America continue to be destroyed day after day???

    Some have allowed this destroyer in office,so instead of sitting by and watch it continue,why not demand a re-election,WE THE PEOPLE NEED TO GET AN AMERICAN LOVING,NATURAL BORN IN THE WHITE HOUSE.
    How crazy is it to let it continue??
    This is an EMERGENCY FOR AMERICA TO SURVIVE???
    Wrong to allow him dictate much longer
    He was elected by Foreign Money,which is illegal,Massive Acorn Fraud,
    Sequoia software,which was in 8 major states last yr,now in over 20 states!! Changes votes in minutes!
    Ties to Chavez and Venez.
    All Conservatives need to be aware of SEQUOIA!

    http://WWW.WND.COM
    http://WWW.REPUBX.COM
    http://WWW.PUZO1.BLOGSPOT.COM
    http://WWW.ORLYTAITZESQ.COM
    http://WWW.RISEUPFORAMERICA.COM

  385. Old Salt and Army DAV,

    Thanks for posting here. I truly enjoy reading you guys.

    Pete

  386. Woohoooo! Controversial Michigan Democratic Rep. Bart Stupak to Retire

  387. HOW ABOUT NO Pensions when they leave CONGRESS?????????
    They are already rich when they leave.
    NO PENSIONS,WE CAN’T AFFORD THEM AND IT IS THEIR FAULT!!!!!
    Term limits a must and no pensions.Should want to serve the country and not RAPE AMERICA !!!
    http://WWW.CITIZENWELLS.WORDPRESS.COM
    TERM LIMITS NO PENSIONS !!!!!!!!

  388. More Evidence and Proof Barack Obama Was 100% Truly Born In Kenya, Africa:

    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=138293

  389. Dr. Orly Taitz Interview – Americans Demanding Proof of Obama Eligibilty

    Dr. Orly Taitz on Israel National Radio

  390. Mr. Obama- Wars Don’t End, They are Won or Lost

  391. Bom dia/Good morning/Good day

    I wonder how many here have started educating themselves about the work of Tim Turner, Sam Kennedy, etc. and the Documentary by Mr. Russo http://www.republicmedia.tv/?p=283 ???

    If you are an AMERICAN and you learn a tiny but about their work and you continue Doubting maybe you will take another decade of time or 10% higher taxes or deficits BEFORE YOU WAKE UP. For you nothing we can do or type here will help…. take your time and wait or wake up and get educated on what is going on.

    I don’t believe it is a Fraud BUT EVEN IF IT IS it can’t be any worse than the FRAUD we are Ruled and Living By right now.

    The shakles of ignorance, brainwashing, tolerance, perversion of rights, complacency are not easy to remove. No one will do it for you….the awakening doesn’t happen by falling and hitting your head or a 2×4 across the back, it is self imposed.

    WAKE UP and study what we have been studying…it is Free and it May Possibly SET US ALL FREE. CONTRIBUTE please do your part. BUT IF YOU WANT TO continue feeding the Corrupt Corporation keep doing it, I WON’T.

  392. Leo Donofrio and Obamaliar being born in …..

    I think his strategy is right for his intentions because it removes the controversy of where he was born and concentrates on Natural Born Citizen. Different Approaches for diff folks, Lou Dobbs stated about the same and got railroaded anyway.

    We are all trying to get to the same place just by different methods.

    They are Huge and Scary BUT THEY CAN”T FOOL US ALL AT THE SAME TIME and shut us all up.

    Just keep spreading the word the Anti Corporate Gangsters Gospel.

    DISMANTLE & RESTORE

  393. #

    zachjonesishome // April 9, 2010 at 5:59 am

    Good Morning! I enjoy checking Drudge first thing. His headlines are good this morning. We’ve known this for years. Zach

    GINGRICH: Obama ‘most radical president ever’…
    LIMBAUGH: Obama ‘inflicting untold damage on this great country’…
    PALIN: Obama’s Nuke Stance Like Kid Who Says ‘Punch Me in Face’…
    LIZ CHENEY: Obama Putting America on ‘Path to Decline’…
    SAVAGE: ‘Obama The Destroyer’…

    ……………………………………………………………………………………………..

    Perhaps a concerted effort is underway to expose Obama…

  394. More Evidence And Information – Against Barack Husesin Obama/Barry Soetoro:
    A Must Read:

    “Mikhail Kryzhanovsky:

    Barack Obama & KGB

    A Statement For American Media

    April 8, 2010 – New York City”

    Here:

    http://www.AmericanGrandJury.org

    # # # #

    A Former KBG Intelligent Agent and CIA Agent Is Reporting Information About Barack Obama Openly

  395. Seminar report.

    Last night I started lsitening to Video 1 of Tim Turner Seminar and finsihed it this morning. I’ll have to probably listen to it again but tonight will listen to the next one which is #2 of 8.

    Thanks Mr Turner fall all that you do for God’s people, America & The Constitution.

    BTW Mr Turner on Video #1 GIVE S FULL PERMISSION TO SHARE AND GIVE HIS INFO to anyone you want because he wants TO HELP US. You can do this as long as it is FREE you cannot sell it. Now who was saying he was just trying to make money? He starts his Seminar with a prayer he is a Godly man.

    He is teaching us HOW TO FISH!!!

    Please listen and learn it is FREE.
    http://picasaweb.google.com/RiddleMtnMan/TIMTURNERSEMINARAPRIL20098PARTS?feat=directlink#

    It is up to you now, Complacency, Fear or Knowledge? For some it’s a tough choice.

  396. !?!! @ 2:30 a.m.
    Extremely well said! You are awesome!

  397. After selling his soul, Stupak now says he’ll not seek re-election and will retire.

    Make you wonder what the Bribe was?

  398. The clouds are breaking and here comes the sun. . . the corporation is “going out of business.”

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article7092435.ece

  399. We really have to stop having talk show hosts and networks pick presidential material, they also do a lousy job of vetting.
    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/
    Friday, April 9, 2010
    NPR reports AKA Obama Born in Kenya
    Those crazy “birthers” are citing National Public Radio.
    Before Presidential aspirations took priority there were many media reports about “Kenyan born” Barack Obama. I haven’t seen one request for retraction of these reports of foreign birth. In fact, AKA Obama might have taken some pride in being seen as “Kenyan born”.
    NPR archive describes Obama as ‘Kenyan-born’
    Description accompanies interview about ‘son of Africa’
    Really? NPR?
    Archives for the tax-supported organization reveal that a 2008 report described then-Sen. Barack Obama as “Kenyan-born” and a “son of Africa.”
    Full Story: http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=138293

  400. Greg Goss (FUBO) re: Stupak
    I wonder what he got for his vote? Retirement $? A new position with the administration?

  401. oldsalt78 and Army D.A.V:

    I never told anyone to ‘shut up’

    I said ‘go back to sleep’

    Meaning: If people can’t see that they’ve been incorporated by the STATE to bind you contractually, because they don’t care to do the research, don’t ridicule others who have done the research, and are trying to educate/wake up the masses.

    If you don’t believe, that’s fine; but instead of ridiculing, how about……

    Rebutting the concept?

    Many of us have spent hundreds of hours researching this, and from what I can gather, by
    all the evidence I’ve seen, it is indeed the truth.

    I’m more that happy to accept others beliefs, if they can post opposition laws, statutes, etc. to rebut the claims.

    Yes, I’ve served, I don’t expect a thank you from anyone.

    As a matter of fact, I’m sure there are hundreds of others who visit/post on this blog that have served, been involved in real world combat missions, but don’t feel the need to air their military career on a public forum.

    Each his own.

    Army D.A.V implied my ‘rants’ sounded of that to the likes of Charles Manson; do I need an apology?

    Nope; and I don’t need him to thank me for my service instead of ridiculing me either.

    No offense is meant to be taken, we are all in this fight together.

    God Bless

  402. Jacqlyn Smith

    #

    Rocknee // April 9, 2010 at 1:44 am

    Heard Sam Or Tim from RAP say we will be wealthy soon and families can return to one member working as in old days.

    Reckon a commerical lien has been placed on IRS/banks to return the hundred of trillions back to the peoples. Just a thought!!
    *******************************************

    Rocknee…..I heard something like this too…..I pray to God it is true…..I thought I was hearing things!!

  403. BOYCOTT this
    BOYCOTT that

    NOW IT”S TIME TO STARVE THE BEAST and BOYCOTT THE UNITED STATES CORPORATION which is a CRIMINAL ENTERPRISE of massive porportions to make us all Poor and Enslaved.

    BOYCOTT UNITED STATES CORPORATION and all it’s subisdiaries in DC and across the WORLD.

    STARVE THE BEAST.
    DISMANTLE & RESTORE

  404. Jacqlyn Smith

    South and Peter….You are doing a great job in getting out this information about the RAP to everyone…..keep in mind…. “you can bring a horse to water….but you can’t make them drink”… I applaud you for your efforts and enjoy reading your opinions and thoughts on what this plan is all about….thank you again and God Bless America!!! 🙂

  405. TO:
    The South // April 9, 2010 at 9:19 am

    oldsalt78 and Army D.A.V:

    I never told anyone to ’shut up’

    I said ‘go back to sleep’
    =========================

    Good answer and humble.

    Good only knows our power when we all pull in the same direction and stand up with one voice. Some take longer than others to wake up.

    Slavery to Europe/America was started by Africans enslaving and selling their own (still continues today).

    The Holocaust, by all accounts, happened with many Jews helping the enemy.

    Stockholm Syndrome is real … many Patriots will side with our enemies and contribute to ours (amd their) demise

  406. !?!! // April 8, 2010 at 11:01 pm

    Hi c.n.d.e.,

    Catching up for a minute!

    Sending me to D.C. would be a mistake…I’m far too angry right now! Having me on TV would be another mistake unless I could hide behind a green weather board :(.

    Not a lot of time to research as many of the posters here have done, but I can update on flu, Earth processes, etc. Wish I had more time!

    I will, however, post anything relevant that may be useful and of course, try to answer questions relating to whatever it is. I find that even with something like H1N1, disinformation runs rampant, as we saw this past season.

    Gotta do some work…catch ya latah! Thanks for a very nice post :).

  407. Justice Stevens retires and Barney Frank not running again, as of FR reports.

  408. I just heard Lt. Col. West being interviewed by a local conservative talk-show host. He said the Democratic Party stood for the “4 S’s –

    1 – SLAVERY

    2 – SECESSION

    3 – SEGREGATION

    4 – SOCIALISM

    And now that Obama wants to sign an arms reduction deal with Russia, I say we add a 5th.

    5 – SUBMISSION

  409. Jacqlyn Smith

    Hello everyone…..to those who are awake and interested in restoring the republic…..check this out go to the new website here……

    http://www.restoreamericaplan.net/

    Once you get there you will see the states listed…..this time click on Idaho…..the state coordinators are already setting up informational meetings open to the public….hopefully every state will be this way so that we can all learn what we need to do to support this effort…..so far Nevada doesn’t have much but I check it daily so I don’t miss anything……please put the above link in your favorites and refer to it often…..it will give you the latest news and updates concerning your state and how you can get involved……Let’s Roll Patriots and take our country back!!!!

  410. BOMBSHELL NEWS! High Level Aid of Collin Powell Admits hundreds of men in Gitmo Innocent!

    George W. Bush ‘knew Guantánamo prisoners were innocent’

    George W. Bush, Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld covered up that hundreds of innocent men were sent to the Guantánamo Bay prison camp because they feared that releasing them would harm the push for war in Iraq and the broader War on Terror, according to a new document obtained by The Times.

    The accusations were made by Lawrence Wilkerson, a top aide to Colin Powell, the former Republican Secretary of State, in a signed declaration to support a lawsuit filed by a Guantánamo detainee. It is the first time that such allegations have been made by a senior member of the Bush Administration

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article7092435.ece

  411. TO:
    Prairie // April 9, 2010 at 9:45 am

    Justice Stevens retires and Barney Frank not running again, as of FR reports.
    =================

    Justice BANKING QUEEN coming right up

  412. Jacqlyn Smith

    Woah…..watch this……

    1/15 Steve Quayle Come the Apocalypse! April 7 2010

  413. Sabrosky’s background submitted:
    http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/03/19/22329/

  414. TO:
    Prairie // April 9, 2010 at 9:50 am

    BOMBSHELL NEWS! High Level Aid of Collin Powell Admits hundreds of men in Gitmo Innocent!
    ==================

    Proposeful Propaganda to numb as some more.
    We know the war was illegal, what led us to war was FRAUD, etc. BUT I would worry more about AMERICAN SOVEREIGNS that are innocent and in jail all across this REPUBLIC before I would worry about those Mooslum Barbarians.

    How about Sherry Peel Jackosn?
    How long has she been held away from her family?
    ANYONE have an update on her? I e-mailed but no answer and website hasn’t been updated in a long time.

    WE HAVE OUR OWN INNOCENTS TO WORRY ABOUT…I won’t fall for the wag the dog Colin is doing to help his buddy and fellow traitor Obamaliar.

    DISMANTLE & RESTORE

  415. SapphireSunday

    Greg Goss: I’m taking the glorious Spring as a sign of impending renewal.

    What’s up with this?

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/36306683/ns/world_news-washington_post/

    MSNBC promoting more “misapprehensions?”

  416. Seems that the NC Blue Dogs will have a challenge from their left as well

    http://theplumline.whorunsgov.com/political-media/its-war-seiu-starting-third-party-in-north-carolina/#comment-233625

    Get out the popcorn, sit back, and enjoy. This will be fun to watch.

  417. Sorry, Above was the comments. This is the article:

    It’s War: SEIU Starting Third Party In North Carolina
    In a shot across the bow of Dems, the labor powerhouse SEIU is starting a new third party in North Carolina that hopes to field its own slate of candidates, part of an effort to make the Democratic Party more reliable on issues important to labor, I’m told.

    SEIU officials setting up the new party, called North Carolina First, are currently on the ground collecting signatures to qualify as a state party, SEIU officials tell me, adding that there are around 100 canvassers on the ground right now. The goal: To have the party up and running so candidates can run in this fall’s elections.

    It won’t be lost on political observers that three House Dems who voted No on reform are from the state: Heath Shuler, Mike McIntyre, and Larry Kissell.

    The new project is an outgrowth of SEIU’s earlier vow to hold House Dems accountable for voting against heatlh reform and against labor’s interests in general. That said, presuming the party qualifies at all, it remains to be seen how much clout it will wield.

    For instance, it’s unclear which districts the party might field a candidate in, and what the criteria for picking those districts will be. A lot of these things will be determined by availability of candidates and other local political concerns.

    It’s also unclear what kind of cash SEIU national will put into this effort — which will also include SEANC, the state employees’ union — and what this will do to relations between labor and the national Dem establishment. But this challenge appears to be a serious experiment in reshaping the landscape of Democratic politics, and it bears watching.

    *******************************************************

  418. Peter,
    The information I am sharing is only for the purpose of exposing both sides as guilty, two heads of the same serpant. Exposing the matrix, the media manipulation of our perception, and the conditioning of our thoughts to feed their greedy banking empire fed by our labor and our lives through war.

    The corporation has been busted through the RAP, all truths will see the light of day once the rule of law is restored.

  419. We are going to be next: Death Of The Internet: Unprecedented Censorship Bill Passes in UK

    Steve Watson
    Infowars.net
    Thursday, April 8th, 2010

    A draconian Internet censorship bill that has been long looming on the horizon finally passed the house of commons in the UK yesterday, legislating for government powers to restrict and filter any website that is deemed to be undesirable for public consumption.

    The “Digital Economy Bill” was rushed through parliament in a late night session last night after a third reading.

    http://www.oilforimmigration.org/facts/?p=6182

  420. Peter,
    I don’t believe I could be more numb than I am. Our president has this week alone called for the death of a U.S. citizen. Not capture and trial, death. I have been numb for 2 years, I pray, cry out, and seek truth regardless of the beliefs I once had.

  421. Jacqlyn Smith

    TO:
    Prairie // April 9, 2010 at 9:50 am

    BOMBSHELL NEWS! High Level Aid of Collin Powell Admits hundreds of men in Gitmo Innocent!

    ******************************************

    Peter…..I was thinking too…..some of these probably live better in Gitmo than in their own countries……after all it is free room and board and health care…..what more could you want…..they probably live better than many of our homeless in America!!

  422. Question for the Economists:

    If trillions of dollars are frozen overseas and to be returned to the US Treasury, why the bankrupty?

    If the US is returning to gold and silver, how does one buy these?

    What’s gonna happen to stock market, particularily oil stocks?

  423. Rocknee, Our present “dollar” will be declared worthless and we will have a new currency. The current thinking is there will be a 12:1 swap rate. That is 12 old dollars for 1 new one. This will cause a huge bump in the road but unavoidable. The new currency will be back by gold and silver, like it used to be prior to the EO 6102 of 1933

  424. SapphireSunday

    Obama’s administration is going to ignore a court ruling that the FCC has no power over the Internet and proceed with regulating it, anyway, as a common carrier. So much for the rule of law. If you don’t like what judges rule, ignore them.

  425. Sorry wasn’t very clear.

    Portuguese Revolutionary War Hero – Peter Francisco // April 9, 2010 at 9:51 am

    TO:
    Prairie // April 9, 2010 at 9:45 am

    Justice Stevens retires and Barney Frank not running again, as of FR reports.
    =================

    Justice BANKING QUEEN coming right up

    As in SUPREME JUSTICE APPOINTEE??
    Justice Barney “Fife” Frank???

  426. Jacqlyn Smith // April 9, 2010 at 10:14 am

    TO:
    Prairie // April 9, 2010 at 9:50 am

    BOMBSHELL NEWS! High Level Aid of Collin Powell Admits hundreds of men in Gitmo Innocent!

    ******************************************

    Peter…..I was thinking too…..some of these probably live better in Gitmo than in their own countries……after all it is free room and board and health care…..what more could you want…..they probably live better than many of our homeless in America!!
    *****************************
    And this makes it ok ?

  427. Peter, it’s “FWANK”

  428. French Leader Sarkozy Slams Obama, Warns “He Might Be Insane”

    http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1360.htm

    You will need to scroll down a bit to begin reading the article. The first part seems reasonable, but then it gets a bit strange. Would be interested in other’s opinions.

  429. TO:
    Greg Goss (FUBO) // April 9, 2010 at 10:25 am

    Rocknee, Our present “dollar” will be declared worthless and we will have a new currency. The current thinking is there will be a 12:1 swap rate. That is 12 old dollars for 1 new one. This will cause a huge bump in the road but unavoidable. The new currency will be back by gold and silver, like it used to be prior to the EO 6102 of 1933
    =====================

    Info is already leaking out???

    Geithner China visit likely to spur currency shift

    See full article from DailyFinance: http://srph.it/9Kyhtt

  430. Citizen Don in California

    !?!! // April 9, 2010 at 2:30 am

    Okay. Long wordiness upcoming. Repetition of a theme. You’ve read it all before.
    //////////////////////////
    Thank you.

    As I have said before, I wish I could express myself that well. I agree with the whole comment. I have been thinking the same thing, I just can’t express myself like most of the people on do.

    I have great respect for and trust in those that express their thoughts and feelings on CW’s blog.

    I thank each and every one of you and especially CW. Old Salt is “one of a kind” and I thank him for his time and efforts in protecting this country and his efforts to keep us informed from his view point. Thank you all!!!

  431. TO:
    Greg Goss (FUBO) // April 9, 2010 at 10:28 am

    Peter, it’s “FWANK”

    ———————————

    You’re right nothing Frank about him other than his “coming out” decades ago.

    Bunny Fwank it is.

  432. TO:
    Crystal // April 9, 2010 at 10:29 am

    French Leader Sarkozy Slams Obama, Warns “He Might Be Insane”

    http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1360.htm

    You will need to scroll down a bit to begin reading the article. The first part seems reasonable, but then it gets a bit strange. Would be interested in other’s opinions.
    =============

    Obamaland of INSANTASY

  433. #

    Prairie // April 9, 2010 at 10:28 am

    Jacqlyn Smith // April 9, 2010 at 10:14 am

    TO:
    Prairie // April 9, 2010 at 9:50 am

    BOMBSHELL NEWS! High Level Aid of Collin Powell Admits hundreds of men in Gitmo Innocent!

    ******************************************

    Peter…..I was thinking too…..some of these probably live better in Gitmo than in their own countries……after all it is free room and board and health care…..what more could you want…..they probably live better than many of our homeless in America!!
    *****************************
    And this makes it ok ?
    ========================

    Remember Ed Hales Birth Certificate?

    Who is the Aid? What’s his name? What evidence does he give. I’m tired of undisclosed sources because it’s so easy to make stuff up. Of course the MSM doesn’t do that do they?

  434. Citizen Carlyle

    JJ // April 9, 2010 at 1:46 am

    Ladyhawke // April 9, 2010 at 1:31 am

    Is there anyone still awake that can summarize the conflict going on here at the moment?

    Bluntly??

    Some of us believe since the media and radio news are picking up the ‘50 governors served the declaration papers’ story, we think it may be truth and happening…….others think there’s not a snowball chance in hell that it’s happening as the Guardians say…..

    Got it??
    =========================

    I believe RAP is for real. I believe they served all 50 governors. I think the governors either ignored them or laughed. I don’t think RAP can “arrest bonds”. I don’t think the military or the supreme court or anybody else important has anything to do with this or knows anything about it.

    I don’t know if RAP actually believes in themselves or whether they are deliberately pranking you.

    The proof of the pudding is as follows: They make a number of predictions or statements about what they plan to achieve. As soon as they achieve something difficult to do, then I will listen more intently.

  435. Looks like the strong arm tactics are still working. Stevens is retiring with just enough time for the Dems to confirm a replacement before they get their clocks cleaned in Nov.

  436. Citizen Carlyle

    !?!! // April 9, 2010 at 2:30 am

    Okay. Long wordiness upcoming. Repetition of a theme. You’ve read it all before.

    Gotta get my say in, though. Just in case I get to say, “I told you so . . . ” to the powers that be.
    =======================
    EXCELLENT

  437. SapphireSunday

    Bunny Fwank?!!! Too funny. Thanks for the laugh. 🙂

    What did happen to Hale’s infamous birth certificate?

    Memo to Sarkozy: ASPD, overlapping with NPD. A dangerous combination.

  438. PRWH at 10:29 am

    Why hasn’t someone in congress stepped forward and asked BHO to resign? It seems like there are reasons too numerous to count that BHO could be charged with that violate our constitution and our country and put all of us at risk. Why are the elected officials complicit? This includes Ron Paul, Michelle Bachmann, and others? Why aren’t they screaming at the top of their lungs about the danger we face with BHO as our alleged POTUS. If BHO is not legitimately removed from office because he fails the constitutional test of eligibility, then why aren’t we impeaching his a$$?

  439. Citizen Carlyle

    oldsalt78 // April 9, 2010 at 3:59 am

    Citizen Carlyle…………………………
    On the last thread you touted your knowledge relating to nuclesr fission.
    ===========================
    I am a physicist, aerospace engineer, and computer scientist. I worked on ‘sensitive’ government programs for 20 years, including various things regarding nuclear weaponry.

    That being said, I don’t consider myself an expert on nuclear weaponry details and what I do know I cannot discuss.

    I do however claim to be expert on the Security Clearance process and have worked with all the agencies and offices involved with that. I can’t talk about that much either. Except just to refer you to previous posts in which I said Zero was never ‘cleared’ and why. And also where I said it would be virtually impossible for anyone with his background to obtain clearance. Primary reasons being 1) suspicious foreign ties, 2) too much secrecy, and 3) many potentially blackmailable activities.

    I also stand by my insistence (learned from the national security pros) that all uncleared people should be regarded as spies until proven otherwise.

  440. TO:
    Prairie // April 9, 2010 at 10:28 am

    Jacqlyn Smith // April 9, 2010 at 10:14 am

    TO:
    Prairie // April 9, 2010 at 9:50 am

    BOMBSHELL NEWS! High Level Aid of Collin Powell Admits hundreds of men in Gitmo Innocent!

    ******************************************

    Peter…..I was thinking too…..some of these probably live better in Gitmo than in their own countries……after all it is free room and board and health care…..what more could you want…..they probably live better than many of our homeless in America!!
    *****************************
    And this makes it ok ?
    =====================

    YES.

    Aninmals are better off caged so they don’t bring harm to themselves and others.

    They don’t hate us and harm us because of what we do or who we are. They hate us and want us dead BECAUSE we exist.

    They treat their camels better than they treat their women and children do you think they care about you or me?

    I ask you to see this video again.

    **** WARNING VERY GRAPHIC *****

    http://www.truthtube.tv/play.php?vid=2008

    12 yr old decapitation initiation…some have First Communion, Some have Bar Mitzvah & others have First Decapitation.

    Foolish Skittish Americans have no bearings after watching this videos they will go take two showers and never be able to look at a knife again meanwhile Mooslums will have a party after this no need to wash hands or change clothes for days…. different tolerances and lifestyles??

    Any questions?

  441. Citizen Don in California

    Obama Criticizes Virginia Governor for Slavery Omission in Confederacy Month Proclamation

    AP
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/04/09/obama-criticizes-virginia-governor-slavery-omission-confederacy-month/

    Virginia’s governor made “an unacceptable omission” by not mentioning slavery when he proclaimed it Confederate History Month, President Obama says.
    ///////////////////////
    To begin with, anything o criticizes must be ok in my opinion. Then there is the fact that the Confederacy was not based on slavery, but States Rights. Sorry o, but you are wrong again. Has he ever been right????

  442. Patriot Dreamer

    I know you all are already talking about Barney Frank retiring. Laura Ingraham is Tweeting that sources tell her that he wants to work on the board of a bank and make $ before retirement.

    You’d think there would be some kind of conflict of interest laws to prevent this.

  443. Linda from NY

    April 09, 2010

    Government Is the Biggest Lawbreaker

    By Mark J. Fitzgibbons

    http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/04/government_is_the_biggest_lawb.html

  444. TO:
    Crystal // April 9, 2010 at 11:03 am

    PRWH at 10:29 am

    Why hasn’t someone in congress stepped forward and asked BHO to resign? It seems like there are reasons too numerous to count that BHO could be charged with that violate our constitution and our country and put all of us at risk. Why are the elected officials complicit? This includes Ron Paul, Michelle Bachmann, and others? Why aren’t they screaming at the top of their lungs about the danger we face with BHO as our alleged POTUS. If BHO is not legitimately removed from office because he fails the constitutional test of eligibility, then why aren’t we impeaching his a$$?
    =================

    Fear.
    Complacency.
    Status quo.
    Racism.
    Riots.

    BUT most important NO PUBLIC DEMAND AND BACK-UP.

    We all need to help BY BACKING ANYONE THAT STANDS UP.

    I have always said that this will be won in the Real People’s Court..the court of Public Opinion.

    Keep Spreading the word and bringing more and more people to end their enslavement and find TRUTH.

  445. Linda from NY

    Peter/Jackie: This one’s for you!

    LIVE THREAD: SRLC SARAH PALIN SPEECH @ 1:00pm EDT, NOON CDT, 10:00am PDT

    April 9, 2010 | onyx

    Posted on Friday, April 09, 2010 12:32:14 PM by onyx

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2489843/posts

    WILL BE CARRIED Live on C-SPAN

  446. Linda from NY

    Obama Runs On Flower Power – Back to the Sixties

  447. Linda from NY

    Stupak Quits Live
    http://www.c-span.org/Watch/C-SPAN.aspx ^

    Posted on Friday, April 09, 2010 12:40:40 PM by jessduntno

    C-SPAN Live Stream LIVE Video

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2489848/posts

  448. Brown won Frank’s 4th Congressional District. http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/eyeon2010/2010/02/it-is-a-sign-of.html And Frank said, given Brown’s win, health care should not be passed; yet he voted for it! http://spectator.org/blog/2010/01/19/barney-frank-deals-potential-d I would imagine, Frank’s polling in his district had something to do with this decision.

  449. TO:
    Linda from NY // April 9, 2010 at 11:35 am

    Peter/Jackie: This one’s for you!

    LIVE THREAD: SRLC SARAH PALIN SPEECH @ 1:00pm EDT, NOON CDT, 10:00am PDT
    ===================

    THANKS.

    SEE IT HERE LIVE
    Have to see if it is 1, 2 or 3

    http://www.c-span.org/Watch/C-SPAN2_wm.aspx

    We have a PAL IN PALIN.

    Hearing on right now about Fannie Mae the CORPORATION GANGSTER RIPOFF CRIMINAL ENTERPRISE

  450. Patriot Dreamer

    jbjd // April 9, 2010 at 11:47 am

    jbjd, thanks for that update!

  451. Linda from NY

    Supreme Court Justice Stevens to Retire in June

    Friday, April 9, 2010, 5:51 AM
    Jim Hoft

    http://gatewaypundit.firstthings.com/2010/04/supreme-court-justice-stevens-to-retire-in-june/

    “Michelle Malkin has background on possible replacements Elena Kagan and Diane Wood here.”

  452. In response to the Times article:

    I am no authority on radical extremism. I do not know the un-named source of the Times article. I do believe our government is holding political prisoners both foreign and domestic. I do believe the corporation is the true threat. When human life has no dignity, when power has no limits, when classes of people are labeled violent as a whole by the elite . . . as the song goes, what will you do when they come you? I am rejected what I have been spoon fed for years and seeking my own truths. . . nothing more, nothing less.

  453. Linda from NY

    Dora the Explorer Pushes Census to Little Kids So They Can Get Stuff

    Friday, April 9, 2010, 4:21 AM
    Jim Hoft

    http://gatewaypundit.firstthings.com/2010/04/dora-the-explorer-pushes-census-to-little-kids-so-they-can-get-stuff/

  454. Linda from NY

    Hmm… AFL-CIO President Suddenly Remembers Witnessing Racist Attacks Against Black Caucus Members?

    Thursday, April 8, 2010, 8:55 PM
    Jim Hoft

    http://gatewaypundit.firstthings.com/2010/04/hmm-afl-cio-president-suddenly-remembers-witnessing-racist-attacks-against-black-caucus-members/

  455. Linda from NY

    It’s On… President Appeaser Lashes Out at Sarah Palin

    Thursday, April 8, 2010, 7:26 PM
    Jim Hoft

    http://gatewaypundit.firstthings.com/2010/04/its-on-president-appeaser-lashes-out-at-sarah-palin/

  456. Linda from NY

    Netanyahu Cancels Trip to Obama’s Nuclear Summit

    Thursday, April 8, 2010, 4:06 PM
    Jim Hoft

    http://gatewaypundit.firstthings.com/2010/04/netanyahu-cancels-trip-to-obamas-nuclear-summit/

  457. THESE CONgress CRITTERS talk about their 30, 40, 50 year “Public Service” careers as if we shoul dbe IMPRESSED.

    PUBLIC SERVICE MY A$$. YOU HAVE NEVER SERVED The Public…you have served the Corporation and SCREWED the Public…even the Indians in the Reservation now realize this.

  458. Patriot Dreamer

    Linda from NY // April 9, 2010 at 11:52 am

    Still no audio or video that anyone ever said the “n” word. Andrew Breitbart’s $100,000 reward is still out there!

  459. A quote from a friend, “None of the elite bankers moving us toward a one world government who have stolen our hard earned money to bailout the other elite financial institutions and send the money to their off shore accounts, or used out grand children’s money to fund the faux wars in the Middle East and control the rigged Wall Street Casino to financially bring this country to it’s knees are Muslims. NONE OF THEM ARE MUSLIMS! Let that one sink in a bit.”

  460. Some Information about CFR and Trilateral Commission Backgrounds:

    http://www.prolognet.qc.ca/clyde/cfr.html

  461. Linda from NY

    Greg Goss [FUBO] @ 11:55 AM

    See you got your FUBO on; did you get your bumper sticker yet?

    Thanks for linking the article…jbjd must be so proud someone has finally acknowledged her hard work…this is great news!

    Happy Day…Linda

  462. TO:
    Prairie // April 9, 2010 at 11:50 am

    In response to the Times article:

    I am no authority on radical extremism. I do not know the un-named source of the Times article. I do believe our government is holding political prisoners both foreign and domestic. I do believe the corporation is the true threat. When human life has no dignity, when power has no limits, when classes of people are labeled violent as a whole by the elite . . . as the song goes, what will you do when they come you? I am rejected what I have been spoon fed for years and seeking my own truths. . . nothing more, nothing less.
    ==================

    Good for you…..we have to de-program lies before we can learn new truths

  463. Linda from NY

    Patriot Dreamer // April 9, 2010 at 11:56 am

    No surprise there! They are probably searching day and night to find “something.” One would think they had better things to do.

    Happy Day…Linda

  464. Greg Goss (FUBO) @ 11:55 am
    Yeah for jbjd and her citizens. I’m not in an applicable state but I sent to my A/G-Florida anyway.

  465. Our PAL Palin is here didn’t start yet she may be the second speaker.

    http://www.c-span.org/Watch/C-SPAN.aspx

  466. Linda from NY

    Prairie // April 9, 2010 at 11:58 am

    From a video I found at the link venice provided last night, Marley says the “Elite” are fostering a “jihad” between Muslims and Christians where none previously existed.

    Muslims took their role seriously and thus, are slaughtering Christians around the world. Have you heard of any Christians attacking Muslims outside of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan? I did not think so.

    Peace…Linda

    PS Interesting observation from your friend…

  467. Prairie @ 11:58 am
    I got curious.
    http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20081221073554AAXZgMr
    How much of the Federal Reserve Bank is owned by the Saudi Royal Family?
    I know the Saudi Royal Family owns J. P. Morgan Bank, Bank of America, WAMU Bank, Talman Federal Bank, ABN AMRO (The “B” in ABN stands for Bin Laden by the way) Chase Manhattan Bank and all the other banks that J.P. Morgan, B of A and got the lion’s share of our $700B bailout paid under duress.

    I figure they own at lest 1/4 of the Federal Reserve through these “Shill” banks but I wouldn’t be surprised to find they actually own closer to 50% or more.

    Let’s all write or congressmen and demand an actual accounting of how much of the Federal Reserve is owned by the Saudi Royal Family, Shall we?

  468. Patriot Dreamer

    Linda from NY // April 9, 2010 at 12:01 pm

    I’m surprised nobody’s tried to fabricate something, frankly.

  469. Patriot Dreamer

    Parody video for Illinois Senate race:

    If I Had $20 Million (based on “If I Had a Million Dollars” by the Barenaked Ladies)

  470. JS,

    Did you notice over at Nesara that John has said in the comments that he has screen shots of the states? I’m wondering if you have seen his shots. I think it was John that said that.

    thanks

  471. You decide

    Why Do Voters Think the Next Generation Will Be Worse Off?

    http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2010/04/09/decide-america-generation-worse/

  472. Citizen Don in California

    http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/04/09/open-letter-to-all-u-s-congressmen/

    Open Letter to all U.S. Congressmen
    CITIZEN TELLS CONGRESS: YOU ARE TEARING OUR NATION APART
    by Art Phillips
    /////////////////////
    This is a wonderful letter and expresses my feelings exactly.

    Please read it.

  473. Portuguese Revolutionary War Hero – Peter @ 12:18 pm

    C-SPAN just started in Louisiana…Palin is due up. Prayer now.

    http://www.c-span.org/Watch/C-SPAN.aspx
    ________________

    Thanks Pete, watching now.

  474. Who owns the federal reserve banks?

    http://www.rense.com/general85/feddrec.htm

  475. Linda from NY

    Peter: @ 12:18 pm

    It is inspiring…cannot wait until Palin speaks.

    This group is already energized; I can only imagine the excitement that will occur when she takes the stage.

    I am enjoying this…how ’bout you?

    Peace to you, Peter…Linda

  476. Amazing: his name is Mudd too, Samuel Mudd was declared innocent-but the name still sticks.
    It’s the old Faulty Business model, they couldn’t have checked somewhere along the line.
    http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN095299220100409
    WRAPUP 1-Ex-Fannie CEO apologizes, faults business model
    * Ex- CEO Mudd: public role in housing finance in balance
    * Mudd: sorry he could not balance Fannie’s twin goals
    By Corbett B. Daly and Kevin Drawbaugh
    WASHINGTON, April 9 (Reuters) – The former chief of Fannie Mae (FNM.N), the giant firm that dominates America’s deeply troubled housing finance system, apologized and accepted responsibility on Friday for its failings.

  477. Citizen Don in California

    I have to go shopping for food. Keep good notes on the Conference and let us know if anything good happens (which it will).

    Have a good day. God Bless!

  478. Linda from NY

    Prairie // April 9, 2010 at 12:28 pm

    Excellent article…Thanks for sharing!

    We asked; you provided…Thank you!

    Peace, Prairie…Linda

  479. Linda from NY

    Obama, No Expert on Nuclear Issues or Sarah Palin

    A Time For Choosing ^ | 4/9 | Stacy Drake

    Posted on Friday, April 09, 2010 1:35:30 PM by curth

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2489891/posts

  480. Wow, Will Mills is great, telling it like it is!

  481. Linda,
    Thank you for seeking the truth. The journey is not always pleasant, and is often rocky. I will note that not all Zionists are Jewish and not all Jewish Zionists. Zionism is a political movement and not a religion. They use the Jewish faith as cover. The deception is purposeful. Here is an excellent article:

    http://www.jewsnotzionists.org/differencejudzion.html

  482. Do you love your freedom!

  483. Orly Taitz
    Judge Vinson in FL states: “”As a Doctor of Dental Surgery, who will be affected by the Act, she clearly has an interest in the subject of this action”- he indicates standing, which was viled as a judicial notice in DC36 minutes ago

  484. “Napoleon said: When a government is dependent for money upon the bankers, they and not the government leaders control the nation. This is because the hand that gives is above the hand that takes. Financiers are without patriotism and without decency.

    The Federal Reserve Bank is a consortium of 9 Zionist Jewish-owned & associated banks with the Rothschilds at the head:

    $1. Rothschild Banks of London and Berlin.

    $2. Lazard Brothers Banks of Paris.

    $3. Israel Moses Seif Banks of Italy.

    $4. Warburg Bank of Hamburg and Amsterdam.

    $5. Lehman Brothers of NY.

    $6. Kuhn, Loeb Bank of NY (Now Shearson American Express).

    $7. Goldman, Sachs of NY.

    $8. National Bank of Commerce NY/Morgan Guaranty Trust (J. P. Morgan Bank – Equitable Life – Levi P. Morton are principal shareholders).

    $9. Hanover Trust of NY (William and David Rockefeller & Chase National Bank NY are principal shareholders). “

  485. Dr. Taitz blog now broken yet again. When I try to access her site, my “Avast” malware program posts a large red flag saying

    ‘MALWARE BLOCKED”
    OBJECT: http://www.orlytaitzesq.com
    INFECTION: iframe-inf
    ACTION: “Connection Aborted”
    PROCESS: C:\Program Files/Mozilla firefox..exe
    The threat was detected and blocked while downloading an item from the web

    After this flag does away, all I see is a blank white screen……… yeah. looks like they got to her blog big time this time…………

    RichardL

  486. Palin

    Energy in America is SECURITY for AMERICA.

    Drill Baby Drill NOT Stall Baby Stall

  487. Jacqlyn Smith

    And this makes it ok ?

    *********************************************

    P…..Didn’t say it made it okay but maybe no one squawked because they were living high on the hog….who knows……I think it is a bunch of propaganda too…..I don’t believe it….I think they should ship them all home and close our borders big time…..everyone should have to leave unless they have proper citizenship…..including the FRAUD’s aunt!!!

  488. Saving Souls -Losing Freedom
    http://chuckbaldwinlive.com/home/?p=1373

  489. RichardL // April 9, 2010 at 1:00 pm

    Hi Richard,

    I pop on to sites occasionally at work.

    On Wednesday, IT sent me an e-mail that headquarters detected a virus/spyware intrustion on my network computer. They were able to solve it with a clean out and the installation of anti-virus software.

    I was on Orly’s site here the day before. From what you’re saying, they got to her yet again.

  490. I get Orly’s updates from Facebook

  491. Linda from NY

    CBO chief says debt ‘unsustainable’
    Politico ^ | 4/8/2010 | JONATHAN ALLEN

    Posted on Thursday, April 08, 2010 10:30:02 PM by Red in Blue PA

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2489486/posts

  492. Jacqlyn Smith

    To begin with, anything o criticizes must be ok in my opinion. Then there is the fact that the Confederacy was not based on slavery, but States Rights. Sorry o, but you are wrong again. Has he ever been right????

    *******************************************

    Don….the blacks are all up in arms over this…..trying to make a big deal out of it to tarnish McDonnell’s image because a Repub beat a DemoCRAP….I heard the racist Roland Martin on Larry King complaining to some historian who said like you just said it wasn’t about slavery….of course Martin….Mr. Stupid in my books…….said it was!!! He’s a #1 A-hole next to the FRAUD!!!

  493. A video from the 2008 campaign… one more piece of the puzzle.

  494. Linda from NY

    BREAKING! GADSDEN FLAG WILL BE HOISTED AT CT STATE CAPITAL TOMORROW AT 9AM

    Hartford Tea Party ^ | 04/08/10 | racebannon

    Posted on Thursday, April 08, 2010 7:40:45 PM by RaceBannon
    Edited on Thursday, April 08, 2010 7:54:42 PM by Admin Moderator. [history]

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2489360/posts

    “THIS IS SO NEW, IT IS NOT ON THE SITE YET, BUT

    EARLIER TODAY, DEMOCRATS COMPLAINED THAT THE GASDEN FLAG WAS GOING TO BE HOISTED OVER THE CONNECTICUT STATE CAPITAL, SO THE FLAG RAISING WAS CANCELED!!

    TOMORROW AT 9AM, THERE WILL BE A FLAG RAISING JUST THE SAME!!”

  495. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    I like this so much, I want to add FUBO to my nickname also.

  496. Linda from NY

    Agent Provocateur Mad Hatters want to crash your Tea Party

    Canada Free Press ^ | Friday, April 9, 2010 | Judi McLeod

    Posted on Friday, April 09, 2010 1:49:20 PM by sheikdetailfeather

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2489900/posts

  497. Patriot Dreamer

    Michelle // April 9, 2010 at 1:31 pm

    Alan Grayson needs to join Bart Stupak and Barney Frank and retire!

  498. Prairie // April 9, 2010 at 1:30 pm

    I can’t watch MadCow for very long without getting acid reflux, Prairie.

    Am I wrong, or does MadCow have an adam’s apple???

  499. #

    SueK // April 9, 2010 at 1:43 pm

    Prairie // April 9, 2010 at 1:30 pm

    I can’t watch MadCow for very long without getting acid reflux, Prairie.

    Am I wrong, or does MadCow have an adam’s apple???

    OMG you beat me to it…..I was just about to type the very same thing. Racheal or maybe it was Richard MadCow….it’s a he/she! (Maybe that’s why Oberwomen likes he/she so much)

  500. SueK,
    Yes, Madcow is hard to watch. I posted this as a reminder that Lady Rothchild, Fed Reserve Banking Baroness, threw her support behind McCain and Palin. Two heads, one beast. All run by the banks.

  501. THE OTHER YOU!!!

    This used to be a joke BUT now we know there is another YOU…the strawman, the CORPORATE Fictitious YOU that has actually overtaken the Godly You.

  502. Patriot Dreamer

    SueK // April 9, 2010 at 1:43 pm

    Weren’t there rumors about them trying to convince Maddow to run against Scott Brown in his next run for U.S. Senate (2012)?

  503. WOW!!I can’t believe it’s MSNBC reporting this!

  504. Gadsen Flag??

    Is this from Restore the Republic or Tea Party?

    DISMANTLE & RESTORE

  505. michelle @ 12:08,
    ABN Amro is a Dutch bank, the B in ABN stands for Bank.
    In 1964, Nederlandsche Handel-Maatschappij merged with De Twentsche Bank to form Algemene Bank Nederland (ABN). This bank has merged with AMRO Bank (Amsterdamsche Rotterdamsche Bank) to form ABN AMRO Bank.

  506. Greg,

    You and I exist in a parallel universe. Maybe it’s something in the New England water?

    I was going to ask if ‘Rachel’ was formerly known as ‘Richard.’

  507. Portuguese Revolutionary War Hero – Peter Francisco // April 9, 2010 at 1:58 pm

    ##############################

    Why do they keep bringing up his name? It seems like a test or something.

  508. “The Federal Reserve System is not Federal; it has no reserves; and it is not a system at all, but rather, a criminal syndicate.”

    The best information on the Federal Reserve Scam from the original researcher of “Secrets of the Federal Reserve.”

    http://www.t-room.us/2010/04/in-honor-of-eustace-mullins-the-greatest-man-of-our-time/

  509. Patriot Dreamer // April 9, 2010 at 1:55 pm

    Yep, PD, in fact, Scott sent out an e-mail to that effect and I posted it here.

    It was good for a couple of snorts: Hottie McAwesome vs. MadCow.

    Sounds like a World Wrestling Federation bout, don’t you think? 🙂

  510. bob strauss

    JS@ 1:29, I am sorry, I misread your comment, I read the “o” as the letter in his name, foolish me, I realized the “o” was supposed to be a zero.

  511. I wish someone would as Jindhal NOW IF YOU ARE ELEGIBILE?

  512. #

    SueK // April 9, 2010 at 2:05 pm

    Greg,

    You and I exist in a parallel universe. Maybe it’s something in the New England water?

    I was going to ask if ‘Rachel’ was formerly known as ‘Richard.’

    Yeah, that TAX FREE water we get in NH…

    Are you listening 1200AM in the morning now?

  513. SueK // April 9, 2010 at 2:05 pm

    Greg,

    You and I exist in a parallel universe. Maybe it’s something in the New England water?

    I was going to ask if ‘Rachel’ was formerly known as ‘Richard.’
    _____________

    Hello Sue!

    Is it just me, or is madcow looking more and more like olbermann? lol

  514. Citizen Don in California

    OT
    I’m sure this has gone around before, but I still like it:

    George Bush, Queen Elizabeth, and Vladimir Putin all die and go to hell.
    While there, they spy a red phone and ask what the phone is for. The
    devil tells them it is for calling back to Earth.

    Putin asks to call Russia and talks for 5 minutes. When he is
    finished the devil informs him that the cost is a million dollars, so
    Putin writes him a check.

    Next Queen Elizabeth calls England and talks for 30 minutes. When she
    is finished the devil informs her that the cost is 6 million dollars, so
    she writes him a check.

    Finally George Bush gets his turn and talks for 4 hours. When he is
    finished the devil informs him that the cost is $5.00.

    When Putin hears this he goes ballistic and asks the devil why Bush
    got to call the USA so cheaply.

    The devil smiles and replies: “Since Obama took over, the country has
    gone to hell, so it’s a local call.”

  515. Jacqlyn Smith

    MUST READ AND SHARE.

    The Council on Foreign Relations

    And the Trilateral Commission

    The two organizations that run the United States

    http://www.prolognet.qc.ca/clyde/cfr.html

    Below is the conclusion of the piece written at the link above…..it is important that we educate folks and vet anyone running for office thoroughly to find out if they belong to either the CFR or the Trilateral Commission………I guess you could also throw in the Bilderberger group!!!!
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    In conclusion

    The American people may think that they live in a free country when, in reality, things could not be more controlled. The American public must be made aware of what is really taking place in the united States.

    The key to obtain our freedom, to have a true independence, is to free ourselves from the yoke of International Finance. How true it is to state that those who control the money of a country control everything in that country.

    The first step is prayer: to kneel down before Almighty God and to ask Him to save America, to shower His blessings on this great land.

    And second; to educate the population. Every citizen of the United States should become informed about these inside organizations, and make it a point not to vote nor to promote those, who are members for these organizations. And to demand a reform of the financial laws of the country, especially to repeal the Federal Reserve Act of 1913, and to implement the philosophy of Social Credit into the laws of the country.

    Make it a point to subscribe as many people as possible to the “Michael” Journal so they could become educated as to how the financial system of the United States could actually be corrected. Then the United States Government would no longer be under the control of the Bankers, but would become a servant of the American people.

  516. GB 1:57 Praire 2:07pm

    Thanks for the complementary reposts – yes it’s hard to believe that MSNBC would elaborate what Mullens tried to tell the world.

    Are we on the brink of major breakthrough yet?

  517. This is totally OT but it disturbed me a great deal.

    I’m not a parent, but I just wonder exactly what this society has become when we think of children this way.

    Sorry if this bums y’all out but I feel SO SORRY for this little guy!

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1264744/American-sends-adopted-Russian-boy-behavioural-problems.html

  518. Sorry Mullins

  519. Jacqlyn Smith

    More news on the RAP from a commenter at AGJ….I think this is what South may have explained before too……

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Comment Author: Floridafree
    Comment Date: 2010-04-09 14:50:07

    Those of you that asked how can they arrest a Governors bond? Look at what I found! This site says this is the actual letter the Gov. received. Here is just a portion of the letter a very important portion to read the entire letter go to the link below:

    “The De jure Grand Juries, do hereby unanimously and simultaneously arrest, redeem and recall the bonds, insurance, surety and de facto escrow of the de facto office of Governor, State of ___________, real or imagined, in each of the fifty (50) incorporated political subdivision States of the United States Federal Corporation,
    thereby rendering all such bonds, insurance, surety and de facto escrow instantly null, void and non-negotiable, and the public wanting for indemnification. For purposes herein, the term “State” also includes the term “Commonwealth” when referring to the fifty (50) political subdivisions of the United States Federal Corporation and similar de facto institutions.
    Order. The de facto office of Governor of the “State of __________” of each of the fifty (50) incorporated States of the United States Federal Corporation, and all vestiges thereof, is hereby resorbed into the respective de jure office of Governor of ___________ (e.g. New York) of each of the respective fifty (50) free republics of the United States of America, c. 1787, upon the man or woman occupying each such office receiving notice of this Warrant. Upon such notice, each such man or woman shall be free to resign within three days of receipt of this Warrant without recourse for such resignation, to be replaced by the man or woman next in line to occupy such office.
    Order. At the time of such resorption, or as soon as is practical thereafter, all such men and women accepting the office of governor of a de jure state republic shall take and subscribe the following respective oath in the presence of the Almighty Creator in front of a duly appointed officer of these De jure Grand Juries, and shall file such oath(s) with these De jure Grand Juries before, and as a condition of, occupying the said respective office, such filing to be completed no later than fourteen (14) days after receipt of this Warrant. Failure of these De jure Grand Juries to timely receive the said oath shall comprise resignation of the respective party from the respective office.”

    Here is the site:http://www.freedomsphoenix.org/Discussion-Page.htm?EdNo=001&Info=066999&View=Hide

    I guess we can all figure out why the Lame Stream media has been so quiet this letter is POWERFUL and lawful!

  520. ms. helga // April 9, 2010 at 2:05

    Why do they keep bringing up his name? It seems like a test or something

    ______

    It is precisely that, a test.

    Worse, how it is going to be spun is: “This proves anybody who does not support Obama as a Constitutional Article 2 President are Hypocritical Racists as we have been saying all along. The fact that they do not question if Bobby Jindhal is Constitutionally eligible only proves they are using the Constitution as a cover for their overt Racism.”

  521. Greg @ 2:13 PM,

    Ya, tax-free water, Greg. that’s why I buy my watah noth of the bordah.

    Not listening to 1200 in the morning, but I’ll give it a try. Tom is starting to grate on me.

    BTW, Todd will be with the TPE II at Boston Common next Wednesday along with Mrs. Palin. Wish I could go!

  522. Lurker // April 9, 2010 at 2:20 pm

    Hey Lurker,

    Great to read you!

    I don’t watch much TV at all, but I’d say that there’s a definite resemblance there.

    Separated at birth, perhaps? 🙂

  523. Patriot Dreamer @ 1:35 pm
    re: Grayson-wasn’t that a mess, all I could think is are these Democrats cracking up, and why? I say that as a reg Dem now Tea Party.
    They are falling apart, mentally I mean, conscience attacks?
    I have never seen Dems act this bad individually or as a group ever. Passionate years ago, but not nutty as fruitcakes.

  524. GBAmerica @ 1:57 pm
    I saw this story months ago, except it was Eliot Spitzer explaining the exact same thing.
    Maybe he should be Eliot Spitzer Ness, to Obama’s Al Capone.

  525. SueK // April 9, 2010 at 2:31 pm

    Lurker // April 9, 2010 at 2:20 pm

    Hey Lurker,

    Great to read you!

    I don’t watch much TV at all, but I’d say that there’s a definite resemblance there.

    Separated at birth, perhaps?
    _____________

    Hey Sue

    Great to read you too!

    Well, you know how couples often times resemble one another after years together, or dogs who resemble their owners? Side by side, you be the judge. lol

  526. JS and all,
    Another resource for eye-opening information on who is running our country in regard to the Council of Foreign Relations. A MUST READ!

    http://www.apfn.org/apfn/cfr-members.htm

  527. On the above link Clinton, Powell, Lieberman, Snow, etc. . . .
    You might want to check and see if your congressman or senator is there: @2:39

  528. And a few quotes from the mouths of the CFR members:

    “The Council on Foreign Relations, another member of the international complex, financed by the Rockefeller and Carnegie Foundations, overwhelmingly propagandizes the globalist concept. This organization became virtually an agency of the government when World War II broke out. The Rockefeller Foundation had started and financed certain studies known as The War and Peace Studies, manned largely by associates of the Council; the State Department, in due course, took these Studies over, retaining the major personnel which the Council on Foreign Relations had supplied.” –Rene A. Wormser, Chief Counsel to the Reece Committee

    “The Council on Foreign Relations is the American branch of a society which originated in England … [and] … believes national boundaries should be obliterated and one-world rule established.” –Dr. Carroll Quigley, CFR member, college mentor of President Clinton, author of “Tragedy and Hope”

    “… the powers of financial capitalism had another far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent private meetings and conferences.” –Dr. Carroll Quigley, “Tragedy and Hope,” 1966

  529. SueK @ 2:25 pm
    He’s just a little boy- treated like chattel. They will definitely tighten up adoptions, obviously they need to. Some kids are more challenging than others. I was naughty from birth, I could climb out of my bed a 6 months, and continued climbing and other stuff which caused major destruction (not intentional) until I learned the hard way how to behave better.
    Reading and school helped. I would watch this child, but he needs to be around other children until he is able to relax and not be sad. Boys like that need to be around men who give them lots of chores to keep them occupied and out of trouble, plus the child learns a skill.

  530. Lurker // April 9, 2010 at 2:38 pm

    Whoa, Lurker….that’s downright creepy, even down to the adam’s apple!!!

    I just got a tingle down my leg when I looked at those :).

  531. Jacqlyn Smith

    Folks…..listen to this….it is starting here in Vegas….YES……the good part starts at the 12:00 minute mark but it doesn’t hurt to listen to the whole thing!!!! It is last nights call…4-8-10….you will be overjoyed!!!!! 🙂

    http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web/talkCast.jsp?masterId=49164&cmd=tc

    This is from last night!!!!!!

  532. Jacqlyn Smith

    It is very important that you listen to my last post!!! They say it is the real deal…..a must listen….everything is going to go private!!!

  533. Jacqlyn Smith

    The guy speaking is Keith….I heard of him before….he says we will be transferring to Greenbacks!!!

  534. READ THIS BS FROM TEACHERS UNION OF NJ

    The Record of Bergen County obtained the Bergen County Education Association memo that includes a closing prayer:

    “Dear Lord this year you have taken away my favorite actor, Patrick Swayze, my favorite actress, Farrah Fawcett, my favorite singer, Michael Jackson, and my favorite salesman, Billy Mays. I just wanted to let you know that Chris Christie is my favorite governor.”

  535. WOW good speech by Gov Perry from Texas…he sometimes sounds like George Bush

  536. The previous list was 2008 on CFR members, here is the current list:
    http://www.cfr.org/about/membership/roster.html

  537. Jacqlyn Smith

    The Call I posted above is the Sam Davis call….he is not one of the Guardians but as I understand it they are in communication but not really working together!!

  538. TO:
    ms. helga // April 9, 2010 at 3:00 pm

    READ THIS BS FROM TEACHERS UNION OF NJ

    The Record of Bergen County obtained the Bergen County Education Association memo that includes a closing prayer:

    “Dear Lord this year you have taken away my favorite actor, Patrick Swayze, my favorite actress, Farrah Fawcett, my favorite singer, Michael Jackson, and my favorite salesman, Billy Mays. I just wanted to let you know that Chris Christie is my favorite governor.”
    ==============

    RUSH talked about this.

    This actually ORIGINATED for Nancy Pelosi and like all Erosionists the LIEberals hijacked it and used it for NJ

  539. Add this name to the “Funny List of Suspicious Groups/Clubs” – The Bohemian Grove

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bohemian_Grove

  540. Rick Perry was SERVED and he is sounding like he was affected by the Guardians.

    CONSTITUTION and CONSTITUTION

  541. I wish that Perry would sign it.

  542. My husband’s check today, no change in taxes, damn.

  543. Now the RAP is giving us Universal Health Care. I’m confused.

  544. Jacqlyn Smith

    PEOPLE…….LISTEN TO THE CALL I POSTED FROM LAST NIGHT……VERY IMPORTANT…WE ARE NOW IN CONTROL OF THE MILITARY AND WE HAVE OUR OWN BANKING SYSTEM BEING SET UP NOW!!!!

  545. Jacqlyn Smith

    He reiterated that this has nothing to do with the RAP….he said the powers that be want this to happen…..it has been verified…..they already tried the account and it is real!!!!

  546. Jacqlyn,

    I was listening to it and then it started messing up. I did get the part about the bank in Vegas, though. I may try later.

  547. Jacqlyn Smith // April 9, 2010 at 2:55 pm

    Hey Jackie,

    I hope with all my heart that this is for real and that they can pull it off.

    Interesting that they’re talking about a person physically transferring from the United States to the United States of America when in Vegas. That person would truly have no country at that point!

    This shakes the foundation of everything we’ve known for a very long time!

  548. Jacqlyn Smith @ 3:08 pm
    I wonder if the Guardians are not taking the Lincoln Law a/k/a Whistleblower Laws as far as they can get the law to go. From what I understand from years ago-the whistleblower receives 10 per cent of the money saved to Federal Govt. 40 Trillion/10 per cent of-my little brain can’t compute that high.
    The brief history of the Lincoln Law was that during the Civil War privateers were selling the Union Army, rotten food (soldiers sick) defective bullets (soldier dead) etc. so that is why Lincoln invented this law-understanding human nature and all.
    http://www.superlawyers.com/washington-dc/article/Protecting-the-Insider/3c19ed8e-4d83-4c41-859d-60d9e215d233.html

  549. JS:

    What do you mean it has nothing to do with RAP? I don’t understand, but then I didn’t hear that part because it was messing up. I thought this was about RAP.

  550. Jacqlyn Smith

    These people are going to be on overload….they need lots of help!!

  551. I must admit, this sounds like Twilight Zone stuff, but then again, I don’t know the true name of our president and who would have believed that 2 years ago?

  552. OMG! My husband simply will not believe me. He refuses to. He thinks I’m crazy.

    JS, if I lived near Vegas, I’d meet up with you and we could get these people people outta citizenship status quicker than flash! Heck I’d do it for them before myself…I’m so happy for my fellow “sovereigns”!

    Question…can anyone go to Vegas? Or is this jut city to city?

  553. Jacqlyn Smith

    #

    Prairie // April 9, 2010 at 3:27 pm

    I must admit, this sounds like Twilight Zone stuff, but then again, I don’t know the true name of our president and who would have believed that 2 years ago?
    *****************************************

    Exactly Prairie….but this news will spread like wildfire!!!! My husband is home and last night I made him listen to some stuff …..he didn’t believe but now I think he is believing!!

  554. ticktock,
    I am betting my husband has a straight jacket and tinfoil for my Mother’s day gift.

  555. Kittycat, This must be related to those “packets” that kept coming up that weren’t related…it’s just all going down at the same time.

  556. SueK // April 9, 2010 at 2:54 pm

    Lurker // April 9, 2010 at 2:38 pm

    Whoa, Lurker….that’s downright creepy, even down to the adam’s apple!!!

    I just got a tingle down my leg when I looked at those .
    _____________

    Is that you, Chris? LMAOOOOOOO j/j 😀

  557. I know, ticktock, and I feel like Prairie, like la-la land or the Twilight Zone, kind of disoriented or something.

  558. Jacqlyn Smith

    #

    ticktock // April 9, 2010 at 3:28 pm

    OMG! My husband simply will not believe me. He refuses to. He thinks I’m crazy.

    JS, if I lived near Vegas, I’d meet up with you and we could get these people people outta citizenship status quicker than flash! Heck I’d do it for them before myself…I’m so happy for my fellow “sovereigns”!

    Question…can anyone go to Vegas? Or is this jut city to city?
    ******************************************

    ticktock…..AMEN…..they are just organizing…..this will be the first meeting….there will be others…..they are talking about chartering buses to bring people in…..Holy cow!!!! 🙂

  559. Just wondering how many of those concentration camps they were trying to round us up in were in Vegas. Joking, kind of.

  560. If this is not RAP, who is it?

  561. Lurker // April 9, 2010 at 3:30 pm

    Yup, Lurker…sure is!

    I think I’ll changing my sign-in to ‘ChrissyM.’

    Look for me soon 🙂

  562. Why do they want to bring people in? This is so confusing.

  563. Jacqlyn Smith

    They are going to keep this call open every night to update people!

  564. Prairie, LOL…I hear ya. I’ll be lookin’ for a beautiful shiny hat for mom’s day too. 🙂

  565. Jacqlyn Smith

    KC….they are explaining the connection to the RAP now!! 56 minutes in

  566. Jacqlyn Smith

    He says the RAP had a few problems…..the right people got involved to help make this happen….he says you have to have cooperation to make this happen!

  567. Jacqlyn Smith

    He says the RAP is a stonewall because there were some serious problems in it…..he says it is not by the 4 Elders.

  568. Jacqlyn Smith

    When the orders went out the Governors were suppose to stand down in 3 days….it has not happened…..he says they are not abandoning what they were trying to do…..they just did it differently and got it done NOW!!

  569. Jacqlyn Smith

    You all have to listen to the show….it is unbelievable but they say it is real!!

  570. Jacqlyn Smith

    Folks…..listen to this….it is starting here in Vegas….YES……the good part starts at the 12:00 minute mark but it doesn’t hurt to listen to the whole thing!!!! It is last nights call…4-8-10….you will be overjoyed!!!!! 🙂

    http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web/talkCast.jsp?masterId=49164&cmd=tc

    This is from last night!!!!!!

  571. Jackie, Does Vegas have enough lodging for everyone who’s coming? It sounds like it’s gonna be total mayhem.

  572. Jacqlyn Smith

    ticktock…..There are a lot of empty rooms here….I don’t know how many will come…..it just depends on how this spreads…..he said they will only be here a few days!! I don’t know…..this is all so over the top….WOW!!!

  573. Jacqlyn Smith

    They are talking about people who may think this is a set up for the FEMA camps……they will post the pictures on the internet…..it is real!!!

  574. I’ve been trying to follow all of this intermittently, with everything else going on. I’m confused. If I don’t sign up to be a sovereign (don’t even know how to do that), I won’t benefit from the Restore America Plan? Will only certain others who have signed on benefit?

    Just trying to understand.

  575. Jacqlyn Smith

    I will be the first in line and if this isn’t real I will let you all know!!

  576. Jacqlyn Smith

    #

    NancyDrew // April 9, 2010 at 3:58 pm

    I’ve been trying to follow all of this intermittently, with everything else going on. I’m confused. If I don’t sign up to be a sovereign (don’t even know how to do that), I won’t benefit from the Restore America Plan? Will only certain others who have signed on benefit?

    Just trying to understand.
    ****************************************

    Nancy….it is going to be a process…..and will take a while…..you must listen to the show to get it all…..I couldn’t possibly explain it all….but if this is real…..I will be there as soon as they get this set up…..they won’t be ready until next week sometime!

  577. OK, we’ll be looking for your reports Jackie! Cuz even if you come back and tell us it’s all legit…my husband STILL won’t believe me…don’t know how I’m gonna get him to get over there.

  578. Citizen Carlyle

    Jacqlyn Smith // April 9, 2010
    =================

    Powerful yes, lawful no. If I were a governor I wouldn’t even finish reading this. I would get stuck at about the first sentence or two, shrug, mutter “whacko” under my breath and toss it.

    Please provide me independent 3rd party evidence that ANY bond has been “arrested”.

  579. JS: I am open to the idea it is for real, but will only people who sign up benefit?

  580. Citizen Carlyle

    Bobby Jindal

    Yes, we must all cry just as loudly and at every opportunity about BJ not being eligible. In fact, I have often wished that the pressure or intentions for him to run would be turned up a notch. Nothing will be more powerful than if we can transfer the ineligibility arguments to HIM, and let Ozero be collateral damage. Brilliant.

    On the other hand, if we do not complain, we will play into the hands of those who accuse us of being racist or having Obama Derangement Syndrome.

  581. JS:
    Forgive that I have not had the time to listen to all the info. & tapes you have provided. I thank you for your all of your efforts. But, I am worn out. I’ve been driving hundreds of miles this week taking my sick friend for help – have not had the time to educate myself on this.

  582. Is this just a coincidence or something else? This is the opening of Beck’s show yesterday…watch it in full screen to see what is written on the blackboard in his opening remarks. (Hint – starts with Restore and ends with America)

  583. Citizen Carlyle

    Jacqlyn Smith // April 9, 2010 at 3:16 pm

    PEOPLE…….VERY IMPORTANT…WE ARE NOW IN CONTROL OF THE MILITARY
    ==============================

    That should be the first clue that all this is BOGUS. Nobody has control of any military. Find me one high-profile military person who doesn’t giggle over that. Better yet, find me an independent 3rd party who says the military has been co-opted. Pooh.

    Wake me up when something significant and difficult REALLY happens. Provably so, I mean. Otherwise, I hope you are equally ready to admit you were suckered.

  584. Jacqlyn Smith

    #

    NancyDrew // April 9, 2010 at 4:06 pm

    JS: I am open to the idea it is for real, but will only people who sign up benefit?
    ********************************************

    Nancy….what I understand is that you have to leave the United States corporation and pass through to the United States of America…..the process will take a while…..Vegas is only going to be the starting point…..once people hear and see this is true then others will follow…..NO ONE will want to stay in the EVIL United States run by the corporation….I sure wouldn’t!!

  585. Jacqlyn Smith

    #

    ticktock // April 9, 2010 at 4:04 pm

    OK, we’ll be looking for your reports Jackie! Cuz even if you come back and tell us it’s all legit…my husband STILL won’t believe me…don’t know how I’m gonna get him to get over there.
    ******************************************

    I don’t know how many people will show up….but stay tuned to the radio show because there will be updates!!!

  586. Citizen Carlyle

    Hey everybody – I’m not just picking on JS or South – or just grinding an ax, here for self-amusement. I used to be able to refer people to this site for rational discussion and to learn some unbiased and non-hysterical truth. Not anymore. This place has lately become a loony bin. I am embarrassed for us all. Truly.

  587. JS, Can you tell from the call if they’ll be set up there as long as people keep coming?

  588. Jacqlyn Smith

    #

    NancyDrew // April 9, 2010 at 4:10 pm

    JS:
    Forgive that I have not had the time to listen to all the info. & tapes you have provided. I thank you for your all of your efforts. But, I am worn out. I’ve been driving hundreds of miles this week taking my sick friend for help – have not had the time to educate myself on this.
    *******************************************

    Nancy…..relax…..it will all work out and not overnight…..I will do my best to inform everyone here for sure!!!!

  589. Jacqlyn Smith

    #

    ticktock // April 9, 2010 at 4:20 pm

    JS, Can you tell from the call if they’ll be set up there as long as people keep coming?
    ((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((

    I believe he said they would be here only a few days…..they are trying to get people there from every county and state….I don’t understand it all yet…sorry!

  590. Jacqlyn Smith

    #

    Citizen Carlyle // April 9, 2010 at 4:19 pm

    Hey everybody – I’m not just picking on JS or South – or just grinding an ax, here for self-amusement. I used to be able to refer people to this site for rational discussion and to learn some unbiased and non-hysterical truth. Not anymore. This place has lately become a loony bin. I am embarrassed for us all. Truly.
    ******************************************

    CC…..then why do you continue to visit??? Go embarrass yourself somewhere else if you don’t like the discussion….no one is forcing you here and it is CW’s blog….NOT yours!

  591. Carlyle,
    If you can tell me the name of the President of the United States with 100% certainty, then you can call me looney. Until then, tin foil is the new black.

  592. http://www.breitbart.tv/wheres-the-outrage-u-s-flag-burned-at-left-wing-protest/
    Accuracy in Media: Accuracy in Media covered a March 20 anti-war demonstration in Lafayette Square Park, across the street from the White House. AIM went there to see what sort of activity was occurring, and as we show in this video, which was all shot at the scene of the demonstration, it was a mix of 9/11 Truthers, Code Pinkers, socialists, anarchists, and a large contingency of pro-Hamas, anti-Israel zealots.

  593. JS, Ok I think he was referring to how long the “process” takes. But later he says that they’ll be there for a very long time.

  594. Js

    Greenbacks.

    You mean 1,5,10,20,50,100, and 100,00o dollars.

  595. Well, while I was at the hospital with my friend yesterday (little me wheelchairing around 300 lbs.), we finally ended up in a waiting room for special procedures/interventional radiology. We were alone in there, so I placed some printouts regarding obama on the table. I came back later, waiting for her, & a man who had brought his lady friend for testing, picked up the printouts. He read them, looked annoyed, folded them up & placed them in the trash.

    Then a very nice black woman brought up the subject of healthcare reform. Naturally I engaged in the conversation & I mentioned that the IRS would be overseeing. The same man that had read the material I had placed earlier got irate. He said he has to leave because he didn’t want to argue with people who don’t know what they are talking about. The woman, whom he was a friend of & had brought for her testing told me that I should not be bothered by him, that he was a retired school teacher & that she felt we were paying for all of his benefits. WOW, it was intense. As for my friend, they removed about 20 quarts of fluid. She was 40 lbs. lighter. They took a sample to test to find out what is causing this fluid retention.

  596. I sure hope that your friend does good, Nancy. You did a great thing, and that’s really loving your neighbor as yourself.

  597. Citizen Carlyle // April 8, 2010 at 11:41 pm

    Ahem, thank you.
    I used to come here for a Bit O’Sanity amongt the crazy all around us, but lately I feel less sane when i leave! (and yes, that sh!t is contagious)
    I want to thank Cabby AZ and Sunday sapphire too(just to name a two) for speaking up and speaking for me these last couple days. 🙂
    (been under the weather, readin’ but not up to writin’)
    Funny how some will swear by THEIR sources but call others’ “crap”…uh- huh, what-ev.

  598. Linda from NY

    Friday, April 9, 2010

    New York Times Unearths 1983 Article by Barack Obama Showing He Favored the Radical Nuclear Freeze Movement

    Via Gateway Pundit

    http://www.freedomslighthouse.com/2010/04/new-york-times-unearths-1983-article-by.html

  599. JS, If you could find out when you go if one has to have their marriage cert? I know he said BC and that isn’t a problem for me, but unfortunatlely after several moves, my marriage cert is a problem. But if I know ahead of time I can send for a copy from the state.

  600. Linda from NY @ 5:20 pm
    Isn’t this strange all this information suddenly leaking out like a sieve. I don’t know if this was the suppressed stuff from election cycle, the destroyed web-sites, people sitting on this until just the right time? Just very odd and people were looking but not finding. Whatever happened to the girl in Chicago who said she helped with the fraudulent COLB document?

  601. truthbetold11

    Folks I have been a christian 22 years. Through good times and bad times. Times of walking away and times fighting for my relationship with God. On Jan 15 th 2 years ago I was about to take off from the airport. I watched ther safety video about if the plane crashes in water. I said no one survies a plane crash in water u just have to be ready to meet God. Well 4 hours later in florida listening to radio. I heard Plane crash all people survied. Wow!! Oh this was the miracle plane crash in the hudson. How was it taken down? By birds!!! God’d birds!!! When God moves to purge the evil out of the land either repent and respond or be cast out. JS my wife is the same clueless zombie but im praying for her

  602. Patriot Dreamer

    SueK // April 9, 2010 at 2:08 pm

    Sounds like a World Wrestling Federation bout, don’t you think?

    *****************************************
    Good thing I wasn’t taking a drink when I read that! LOL! 😀

  603. Patriot Dreamer

    Michelle // April 9, 2010 at 2:32 pm

    Grayson’s been nutty pretty much all year. Was he always like this? Is this his first term in Congress?

  604. Jacqlyn Smith

    #

    ticktock // April 9, 2010 at 5:29 pm

    JS, If you could find out when you go if one has to have their marriage cert? I know he said BC and that isn’t a problem for me, but unfortunatlely after several moves, my marriage cert is a problem. But if I know ahead of time I can send for a copy from the state.
    *****************************************

    ticktock…..you are right…..it is going to be a permanent thing…..he says there will be a rush in the beginning…..once the word spreads as legit then their will be more of them coming!!!

  605. Jacqlyn Smith

    They are only starting in Vegas because they will get the people to come here!!!

  606. Jacqlyn Smith

    truth……some people have to be courageous and take the plunge first…..I am like you…..I believe in the Lord and he is telling me to listen to these folks…..this is our hope and I have NO qualms about it….but I will let others know if I hear anything else other than what is on the call!

  607. The AP “reported” again against Pope BenedictXVI. Here is a rebuttle to this deceptive reporting of The A P.
    Please read it!

    http://wdtprs.com/blog/2010/04/ap-throwing-more-spaghetti-at-pope-benedict-this-time-from-california/

  608. Jacqlyn Smith

    For j.b. and Citizen Carlyle

    “He who knows not and knows not he knows not: he is a fool – shun him.

    He who knows not and knows he knows not: he is simple – teach him.

    He who knows and knows not he knows: he is asleep – wake him.

    He who knows and knows he knows: he is wise – follow him.”

  609. Citizen Carlyle // April 9, 2010 at 4:19 pm

    Hey everybody – I’m not just picking on JS or South – or just grinding an ax, here for self-amusement. I used to be able to refer people to this site for rational discussion and to learn some unbiased and non-hysterical truth. Not anymore. This place has lately become a loony bin. I am embarrassed for us all. Truly.

    *********************

    Why do you say this place has lately become a loony bin? Those are strong words.

    Do you have evidence which shows that what the guardians are doing is false? Do you have evidence that the 50 governors did not have their bonds arrested?

    Do you have proof of anything that you are suggesting?

  610. Patriot Dreamer @ 5:44 pm
    Grayson is a highly educated person and obviously a hard worker to complete his education. He definitely has personality deficiency syndrome, which is a shame. I think the Dems are reading the hand writing on the wall due to Obama and his stupidity which they blindly followed like some lemming/fools and I think it is going to be a bloodbath for the Dems. (I hope-and I say that as a registered Dem). The Obama admin with Pelosi, Reid and others the
    worst power mad crazies our country ever saw.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Grayson
    Grayson was born in the Bronx, New York. He graduated from Bronx High School of Science and worked his way through Harvard University graduating summa cum laude in three years. He was also a member of Phi Beta Kappa. He worked as an economist for two years and returned to Harvard for graduate studies. Within four years, he earned a law degree with honors from Harvard Law School, a masters in public policy from the John F. Kennedy School of Government and completed the course work and passed the general exams for a Ph.D. in government

  611. LInda, That’s the NYT, very liberal paper that LOVES Obama….this is to disuade folks from believe Rev. Manning that Obama never attended Columbia….that’s all it is a cover story for the messiah…

  612. Greg Goss @ 10:25 a.m.
    I think there is some misinformation about the currency exchange.
    I asked JS about this and she said that the Guardians are NOT responsible for this.
    I believe if the dollar fails this month, we will get the Amero, another fiat currency.
    I heard awhile back that some bank employees leaked that banks had been stocking the Amero.
    If anyone would care to weigh in on this, please do!!!

  613. Lakin recieves papers to report for deployment:

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2490094/posts

  614. JS, For some reason my posts don’t show up at AGJ. I can’t seem to get into the system there. Anyway, someone over there mentioned for you to be careful just for precautionary measures. You never know if it’s a cult group or something..most likely NOT, but it couldn’t hurt to bring a friend with ya.

  615. Linda from NY

    connie // April 9, 2010 at 6:10 pm

    Oh, I agree. Rev. Manning said in one of his vids that they would do this…that all kinds of information will be “leaked” to discredit his cause.

    I was hoping someone would catch that, but haven’t we seen this “bogus” paper before?

    Thanks for you warning…

    Happy Night…Linda

  616. If we’re all “loony” we’re in mighty good company. Most people thought Jesus was loony, most people thought the Founding Father’s were loony. So we can all take heart and take it as a compliment.

  617. Linda,
    Yes, I’ve seen that paper numerous times in the past.

  618. ticktock,

    The largest cult group is the US Government. I’m sure that just because a person calls upon Yahweh, even though it’s listed around 7,000 times in the OT, doesn’t make someone a cult.

    It’s amazing to me that we still need to be extremely educated as a people. We have all the means to educate us.

    I’m sure that JS can take care of herself and won’t be in any harm.

  619. My own intuition and common sense leads me to agree with Citizen Carlyle, et al.

    I did listen to a good deal more of the RAP broadcasts than I should have and tried to read their letter to governors. As I have already said, it felt creepy. Indeed, cult -like. Now there is this new group – led by someone supposedly named, Sam Davis, asking folks to flock to Las Vegas.

    Agree or not, this site has been all but hijacked by this subject.

    Has Citizen Wells weighed in on this? If not, I wish he would.

    Gotta go and do something that might actually be productive and write the GOP to inform them that Jindal is not a NBC, and why.

  620. #

    Citizen Carlyle // April 9, 2010 at 4:19 pm

    Hey everybody – I’m not just picking on JS or South – or just grinding an ax, here for self-amusement. I used to be able to refer people to this site for rational discussion and to learn some unbiased and non-hysterical truth. Not anymore. This place has lately become a loony bin. I am embarrassed for us all. Truly.

    I have no idea who you really are but I can tell you who we are. Most of us, at least the ones you seem to target, have been here for years, and we have seen you type come and go. There are allot of us that are actually active, as in we do things to help get this country back. We do not tend to argue amongst ourselves, we certainly do not insult each other.

    What you are witnessing here now is what happened in the fall of 08. Allot of information hitting the internet at a fast pace. As things develop people will interpret things differently so you will see a varying of opinions by various people.

    As for signaling out our friend Jacqlyn Smith you have made a grave error in judgment. JS is opinionated for sure but there are many that research and pass along more information than Jackie. She has an email list that spammers would die for, and she uses it!. She has done more for this cause than I could of onl dreamed of doing. She had passed along some of my earlier as well as many others. The awareness of the frauds credentials or lack thereof can be directly attributed to Jackie’s efforts.

    So if have a problem with this blog and or the people here than just F-off!

  621. Kittycat, What I suggested has absolutely nothing to do what name the guy calls God. It wasn’t personal, I woulda said it no matter WHO was putting this out. Yes, the US gov’t is a cult…maybe it’s THEM. I’m just telling her to be careful…that’s all. I got no problem with people referring to Yahweh…absolutely none.

    If they were doing it in the name of God, Jesus, US gov, the man on the moon..I woulda asked her to be careful the same way.

  622. Should read “JS is opinionated for sure but there are not many that research and pass along more information than Jackie.

  623. Boy there allot of typos in that post…sorry but I was really pissed. I think you can insert the words that are obviously missing…

  624. Linda from NY

    Kittycat // April 9, 2010 at 6:39 pm

    I agree. It seems to me anytime someone wants to discredit a group of like-minded people, they call them a “cult.”

    IMHO, we all need to “prayerfully” reflect on the information that is provided here and in other venues. God [Yashua] [Yahweh] has the power to bring “Truth to Light.” We need to “prayerfully discern” what is being presented to us, and sincerely ask God [Yashua] [Yahweh] for direction and guidance. We must trust in Him, and not in man. He will guide us toward what is best for us because He is a loving Father who loves us unconditionally and wants only what is best for us.

    My prayer is that all here will carefully discern what is happening around us so that we can be, with a clear conscience, confident in our choices.

    Peace Be With You…Linda

  625. also Kittycat, Of course I KNOW Jackie can take care of herself. I have people I care about all around me that can take care of themselves just fine but I still tell them to be careful sometimes. I’m guessing most of us do. Or who knows, maybe I’m the only one.

  626. Linda, I DIDN’T CALL THEM A CULT! I SAID “YOU NEVER KNOW”. GOODNESS. WE DON’T KNOW WHO THEY ARE YET. I’M HOPING IT’S ALL LEGIT. I’M INTO ALL THE INFO I CAN GET…I DON’T THINK ANYONE’S CRAZY…IF THEY ARE THEN I’M CRAZY TOO CUZ I’M EXTREMELY INTERESTED.

    I FEEL LIKE PEOPLE ARE PUTTING WORDS IN MY MOUTH.

  627. Jacqlyn Smith i did sign up last night for the rap. I have been listening to the tapes and I am skeptical but anything would be better than the garbage that is taking place right now. I can not travel to Vegas, however I hope they set a place up in Illinois. If there is anyone going to Vegas, Please let us know what is going on. Anything to get away from this garbage in this Country. Listening to the tape I hope we do not have to move to Vegas in order for this to happen.

  628. OK, I just learned today that people who believe that God’s name is Yahweh believe that all the rest of us are uneducated or that if we aren’t uneducated we ignorant. I’ve also learned that if they did rule the world, we’d better darn learn how to say it right or we’re in big trouble!

    Never did I think that when I woke up today that’s what I’d learn, but I did anyway. All because of a group I’m extremely interested in who I didn’t even NOTICE used “Yahweh” until it was pointed out to me that I’ve got some sort of a bias towards them. Well now I know.

  629. Jacqlyn Smith

    I was wondering if there could be a second set of books at these Saudi owned banks here in united states where our money could be hidden instead of hidden in Swiss banks? You know like the money that went to zip code numbers that does not exist!

  630. You decide

    What Kind of High Court Nominee Will Obama Pick?

    http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2010/04/09/kind-nominee-obama-pick/

  631. The RAP allowed 72 hours for a governor to resign. It called for 14 days to retake the oath, this has not yet passed. The audio of this new “plan” states they have been in place and America restored for a month and a half- say 6 weeks. The new “plan” was called for because the RAP didn’t work. Hmmmm…. I can’t reconcile those statements. It is only one audio and sounds like Huxley’s Brave New World to me.

  632. Citizen Carlyle

    UpstateWarrior // April 9, 2010 at 6:04 pm

    Why do you say this place has lately become a loony bin? Those are strong words.

    ===========================

    I am a scientist. By definition, any phenomena that is not independently verifiable by a dis-interested 3rd party is “loony”.

    They burden of proof is ALWAYS on persons making claims.

    Obama must prove that he is eligible. Similarly your RAP people have to prove they are on the up and up. To believe any 1st person is a sure way to fall or be suckered. 2nd person verification is always required, and preferably 3rd.

    But one particular example sticks in my craw. I have worked in and around the military all my life. To say that the military is on-board with RAP is beyond ludicrous. They just don’t work that way.

    I find it ‘fascinating’ that you all disparage Obamamaniacs for falling so easily for ‘the one’. Yet some of you are showing the same behavior. Following stuff that makes no sense because you wish or hope it is true.

  633. Prairie, This is what I noticed too. He basically called RAP a failure…not those exact words, but close. The RAP people would beg to differ. I’m glad for all these groups and what they’re trying to do but I’m not so sure about what Keith claimed cuz the RAP plan was designed to be a slow process. It’s amazing how hard all these people are working for us. The next few months are going to be interesting!

  634. Patriot Dreamer

    Citizen Carlyle // April 9, 2010 at 7:23 pm

    I have contacts with the military, and they know nothing about any of this.

  635. It sounds like a Stephen King novel to me…where they all had to travel to one place…

  636. ticktock: “OK, I just learned today that people who believe that God’s name is Yahweh believe that all the rest of us are uneducated or that if we aren’t uneducated we ignorant. I’ve also learned that if they did rule the world, we’d better darn learn how to say it right or we’re in big trouble! ”

    No, I’m not saying that YOU ARE uneducated, period. But when people call upon Yahweh’s name, they say we automatically are cults! Go figure, ticktock. Think about Jim Jones or whatever his name was. He was not a Yahwehist, but we get accused of this all the time, ticktock. Well, I get sick and tired of this argument, which it’s evident from the very same Bible (Scriptures) that you study as is mine.

    Imagine being the supreme deity and the people can’t call upon your name because of all of their superstitions, all of their stupid rules, which they are all man-made rules.

    Does a child name their parent, or does the parent name their child? That always gets me. Does your child come forth from your belly saying, Oh, this will be my name?

    So aren’t we supposed to be the child or Yahweh, or are we the one who names him, ticktock?

    This is a passionate debate with me. His name is in there almost 7,000 times, ticktock, more times than any word. I have a DEAF friend who calls upon Yahweh and wishes that he could “hear” himself say his name, but I bet you $1 million that he probably does better than most hearing people today.

    WHY, you ask?

    Because Yahweh’s name is four semi-vowel letters, that’s right. In the Hebrew it’s four semi-vowel letters and the sound is phonetically like this:

    ee-ah-oo-ey

    The “ee-ah” sounds like Yah….the oo is like in the long vowel sound like in true, or too, two.

    Then the “ey” is like a long “a” sound just about.

    So a little note of interest here, I met a lady in Australia who was a person who worked with an ENT. She did the hearing tests on people. She was freaked out when she found out that she was teaching the name Yahweh to people with hearing problems and didn’t realize it.

    Her exact teaching started out with this to form their vowel letters:

    ee-ah-oo-ey.

    So it seems like the deaf have heard, and those hearing refuse to hear.

  637. Linda from NY

    ticktock // April 9, 2010 at 7:02 pm

    I was not attacking you or referring to anything you said; I was just making an observation, that’s all.

    I realize all of this information [and there is a great deal of it] is enough to make anyone’s head spin; mine spins on a daily basis.

    Please understand…what I have tried to consistently provide are my observations and/or opinions…these are not directed at anyone unless I ask for clarification of what they think or say.

    Peace Be With You…Linda

    PS IMHO, knowledge is the key to understanding; the more knowledge you have of a particular subject, the greater your understanding. This does not come all at once; for most of us, it comes over time.

    Patience is a Virtue; A Virtue is a Grace. Put ’em both together, and you get a Happy Face! 🙂

  638. ticktock,
    If the RAP were working, would it not be in the best interest of the regime to say it failed? Who wants to go to Vegas and live in a nanny state? Free health insurance, free electricity, free houses, id cards. . . sounds like what oboner is peddling, not like free soveriegn people.

  639. Citizen Carlyle

    Greg Goss (FUBO) // April 9, 2010 at 6:53 pm

    Should read “JS is opinionated for sure but there are not many that research and pass along more information than Jackie.
    ======================
    I agree with that. JS is and has been a diligent researcher and reporter. I have seen several arguments that she has started or been involved in. I must say I usually agree with her.

    However, on the RAP thing, I just think she got sucker punched on that one. I enjoy hearing about what they are doing, and why. I just think they need to prove themselves or have a success of anything they predict before we all go gaga.

    Endorsing them without proper vetting makes us look like we make the same mistakes as our ‘enemies’. Wishful thinking is not good policy or vetting procedure.

    Just a similar for instance – I don’t endorse anything Orly Taitz does or is. However, I have given her some information, I watch what she does, but I really don’t know if she is whacko or not. I can HOPE that she succeeds with something, but I don’t know if she is on the right track or not.

    So I watch and wait and help where I can.

  640. ***NEW POST***

  641. Linda, Thank you…Happy face 🙂 Letting Go.

  642. I listened for about 20 minutes to the link provided by JS. Listening to the people discussing the sovereign movement was not encouraging. I did not get the feeling they were capable of doing what has been claimed by some here. They seemed a bit out of their league.

    I would love to believe something is happening to restore our sovereignty, but at this time, the only sovereignty guaranteed to anyone is offered by God. Christianity is the only religion that gives the individual 100% free will to choose or not to choose God no matter the political leadership we are born under.

    If there is truly a movement afoot, then there are powerful people behind it that are not speaking out yet. I find it hard to believe this is real, but I will withhold judgement for the time being. It’s not a bad fantasy to have and it provides an opportunity contemplate a better society and how it could be structured.

  643. Citizen Carlyle

    Prairie // April 9, 2010 at 4:34 pm

    Carlyle,
    If you can tell me the name of the President of the United States with 100% certainty, then you can call me looney. Until then, tin foil is the new black.
    ===========================

    That is exactly the point – and why I am here. I cannot answer that question. I am also here because I think that is a legitimate question and involves no Tin Hat or Conspiracy theory and is not loony.

    On the other hand, running around and sending the governors “follow me or resign” letters and claiming to be able to force them by “arresting their bonds” is just weird. In a word, loony.

  644. Carlyle,
    For me there is no doubt America is a corporation. The federal reserve bank is running the government. The banks are controlled by the Zionists. And America must reset or be retired. Insanity is is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different outcome, no? Have we not written, called, gathered, boycotted? If RAP does not work, revolution will come, why not pray and hope for a peaceful resolution?

  645. It amazes me that people won’t open their minds to the multitude, abundance, or mere chitload of evidence that 9/11 did not go down as the “official” story was told. That the 9 Federal Reserve banks that are running our country and robbing us into oblivion are owned by Zionists. that republicans and democrats are one corporation run by a puppet CEO, that the war on terror is fiction scripted by the elite, that our ememies are within – yet, after one audio tape it is Vegas or bust. Amazing.

  646. Citizen Carlyle

    Prairie // April 9, 2010 at 8:01 pm

    MY COMMENTS IN CAPS – NOT TO SHOUT BUT TO DISTINGUISH

    WE ALMOST AGREE, I JUST THINK SOME OF YOU TAKE IT TOO FAR. FOR INSTANCE:

    For me there is no doubt America is a corporation.

    AGREED, BUT MOST OF US THINK THAT IS A SIMPLE LEGAL FICTION TO FACILITATE COURT PAPERWORK AND DOES NOT REPRESENT ANYTHING SINISTER.

    The federal reserve bank is running the government.

    THEY CERTAINLY HAVE MORE POWER THAN THEY SHOULD. IN FACT THEY HAVE SO MUCH POWER THAT SHOULD WE PRESSURE THEM TOO MUCH, THEY CAN MAKE US CRY UNCLE AND GIVE UP. THAT MAKES A VERY BIG DILEMA. FOR INSTANCE THEY COULD MAKE MILLIONS OF AMERICANS STARVING AND HOMELESS IN A HEARTBEAT. DO YOU OR YOUR CONGRESS PEOPLE HAVE THE HEART TO AUDIT THE FED IF THEY WERE TO DO THAT?

    The banks are controlled by the Zionists.

    I DON’T KNOW ABOUT THAT. A ZIONIST IS SOMETHING VERY SPECIFIC.

    And America must reset or be retired.

    AGREED

    Insanity is is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different outcome, no? Have we not written, called, gathered, boycotted?

    YES, A ‘CHANGE’ OF SOME SORT IS COMING.

    If RAP does not work, revolution will come, why not pray and hope for a peaceful resolution?

    PEACEFUL SOLUTION, YES, GOOD PRAYER. ONE CAN ALWAYS WISH AND HOPE ALSO. BUT RAP AIN’T IT. THERE ARE TOO MANY PREPOSTEROUS THINGS TO BELIEVE.

    It amazes me that people won’t open their minds to the multitude, abundance, or mere chitload of evidence that 9/11 did not go down as the “official” story was told.

    I AGREE 100% – THE WHOLE STORY HAS NOT BEEN TOLD. HOWEVER, THAT DOES NOT PROVE THAT ANY OF THE CONSPIRACY THEORIES ARE TRUE, EITHER. JUST THAT MORE RESEARCH AND ANALYSIS AND DISCLOSURE IS NEEDED.

    That the 9 Federal Reserve banks that are running our country and robbing us into oblivion are owned by Zionists.

    SEE ABOVE

    that republicans and democrats are one corporation run by a puppet CEO, that the war on terror is fiction scripted by the elite, that our ememies are within

    RNC AND DNC ARE TOO SIMILAR AND SEEM TO BE PUPPETS OF ‘SOMEBODY’. WHO THAT IS, I DON’T KNOW.

    ENEMIES WITHIN – CERTAINLY WITH OBAMA, PELOSI, AND REID THAT IS THE CASE. ESPECIALLY THE USURPER OBAMA.

    – yet, after one audio tape it is Vegas or bust. Amazing.

  647. Carlyle,
    From earlier today:
    Prairie // April 9, 2010 at 12:45 pm

    “Napoleon said: When a government is dependent for money upon the bankers, they and not the government leaders control the nation. This is because the hand that gives is above the hand that takes. Financiers are without patriotism and without decency.

    The Federal Reserve Bank is a consortium of 9 Zionist Jewish-owned & associated banks with the Rothschilds at the head:

    $1. Rothschild Banks of London and Berlin.

    $2. Lazard Brothers Banks of Paris.

    $3. Israel Moses Seif Banks of Italy.

    $4. Warburg Bank of Hamburg and Amsterdam.

    $5. Lehman Brothers of NY.

    $6. Kuhn, Loeb Bank of NY (Now Shearson American Express).

    $7. Goldman, Sachs of NY.

    $8. National Bank of Commerce NY/Morgan Guaranty Trust (J. P. Morgan Bank – Equitable Life – Levi P. Morton are principal shareholders).

    $9. Hanover Trust of NY (William and David Rockefeller & Chase National”

    I also noted that Zionisism is a political movement, not a religion. It uses the Jewish faith as a cover and purposefully confuses the two.

    As for the reserve:
    http://www.barefootsworld.net/fs_m_fwd.html

    I appreciate the respect and thought you have given my views.

  648. I am Canadian and I am also a Jew and I’m completely disgusted at the ignorant / anti-Semitic / world conspiracy angle so many of you Americans believe in! First, as a Jew I can tell you banking was one of the few professions medieval Christian Europeans allowed the Jews to do because the Vatican looked down upon money lending. So since then Jews were demonized by Christians, the best example that can be seen is by Martin Luther with his litany of blood libels against the Jews in his manual of Jew hatred called On the Jews and Their Lies.

    Now just as with Martin Luther, people here keep posting blood libels that most likely have come from such websites as this one:
    http://www.apfn.org/apfn/Fed_reserve.htm

    All that is nonsense! I’m a Canadian and even I know of the secret Jekyll Island island meeting between bankers that created your Federal Reserve System–it’s basic history! Also as a Jew I know that in American circles, banking was a closed shop to Jews! The Morgans and Rockefellers and these sorts of families in American banking wouldn’t want to do business with Jews! Most of the attendees were snobby Christian Americans, there was in fact a person named Paul Warburg and he did come from a European Jewish background but none of these so-called Europeans with Jewish sounding last names praticed Judaism!

    They weren’t religious and were in fact downright mean to the Jews that still practiced Judaism! A perfect modern example is George Soros who changed his last name which originally was Schwartz. He even helped round up fellow Hungarian Jews to be deported by the Nazis to concentration camps! Soros isn’t a Jew anymore, he’s a self-loathing Jew who supports all parties who are anti-Israel!

    Finally read your own history rather than relying on anti-Semitic propaganda that says all these Jewish bankers created the Federal Reserve when it’s not true! And any person with a Jewish sounding last name may have come originally from a European Jewish family but I assure you that none of these 20th century people with Jewish sounding last names practiced Judaism! And none of them were Zionist! Zionism began as a result of Theodor Herzl’s disgust at the French sham trial of portraying Alfred Dreyfus as a traitor! Until then Herzl was complacent just living in Europe but because of the French he had enough and began the modern-day movement of Zionism, to find a land the Jews could call their own!

    None and I repeat none of the rich Jews of Europe backed Herzl, the only Jews that really wanted their own homeland free of discrimination were those Jews that were discriminated against, after Herzl’s death Zionism was dominated by Russian Jews. Because these Jews were not only discriminated against in Czarist Russia but they were the victims of the constant bloody pogroms! So believe me when I say that no wealthy European people with Jewish family backgrounds from years gone could care less by Zionism! So you need to put an end to this crap right now! Because these bankers aren’t Jewish, most changed their last names and of those that still kept their last name, none practice Judaism nor care about Israel! So get it through your thick skulls–there’s no such thing as this Zionist conspiracy! Got it!

  649. SapphireSunday

    Tom W.: We don’t all feel that way. Believe me. I am not Jewish, yet I feel as offended as you do when I read some of these implications. Thank you for your input and for the history lesson, as well. Peace.

    Citizen Carlyle: Thanks for your insight. Please stick around and add your logical voice to the commentary. I’ve been here and there for years, too. Tuning in here, tuning in there; but you and I go back a way. I believe to TD’s blog, but you would know me by another name.. A previous incarnation. Citizen Wells, ditto, and I appreciate the forum. I also appreciate everyone’s input, no matter if they agree with me or not. I realize this thread is over, but I wanted to add my two cents.

    JS and all: I’m keeping an open mind on the RAP situation. I try to keep an open mind about everything. Time will tell. In the meantime, we all need to pray, no matter what name we give to the One to whom we pray.

  650. Thanks, folks, for your kind comments about my comments. Much appreciated.

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