Leo Haffey, Nashville TN attorney, Arrested, Obama thugs, Nashville corrupt?, District Attorney Torry Johnson, US Constitution, Haffey family threatened

I am posting this in full from the Free Leo the Lawyer blog. I have some inside knowledge of this case. I have talked to a close family member and someone with credentials and a knowledge of court cases. I do not have all the facts, but this still smells really bad to me.

“Tuesday, October 6, 2009

Excerped Notes From Leo’s Jail Letters

Sept 28-29, 2009

Admittedly I am in a minimum security cell block, but I only see a handful of the 50+ who deserve to be in Prison. Far too many are falsely accused and many other simply have mental problems that make it impossible for them to navigate the Helter-Skelter Brothers Johnson “judicial” system. I trust that good Patriotic Americans like the 2 million who marched on DC on 9/12 will be appalled by what they see of Brothers, Johnson, Dean & Serpas. As I have always said, the seemingly petty crimes of the crooked politicians of Nashville will make Watergate look like an insignificance. Can you imaging the audacity of letting the BO campaign steal computers from the Nashville Election Commission and then covering it up, not to mention covering up for the child molesters at Al Farooq? Keep the Faith! Leo

I am shocked at the level of corruption in the “legal” system in Nashville. I never dreamed it was this bad. The Duke Lacrosse case pales in comparison and the North Carolina Supreme Court did the right thing, and disbarred DA Nifong. It is so perverse and entrenched here that the reckoning will be very long and messy and don’t have time for it. If I had known 25 yrs ago what I know now, I would never have moved here.

I am ready to go public with all I have on Brothers, Dean, Serpas & Johnson. I will not tolerate having my family, especially, my 11 year old daughter, terrorized by these criminals. I tried to give Terry Johnson a chance to do the right thing. All he did was ignore the child molestation of BO supporters at Al Farooq, as you know. I can’t fathom why he would want to continue to cover up those crimes but I will not. I feel it is my Duty to our Country to do everything I can to protect our Constitution. At this point my primary motivation is to prevent my daughter from having to grow up in a country without Liberty; a country with no Civil Rights. I am prepared to stay in jail until my case is fully publicized nationally. Life outside of jail is no better than life inside jail if we have no Bill of Rights. The criminals in charge of the present government will simply arrest you wout probably cause if you exercise your rights. No Free Speech, Assembly, etc. as they did with me. I never imagined that I would be a Political Prisoner in America. If I had known how diabolical these criminals are I would have simply left the US. It is clearly too late for that now & I fear that the fears of Patriots are about to be realized. I believe that the Citizens Grand Jury is the best, and indeed the only way to restore order, and I hope the CGJ’s are continuing to flourish, according to the Texas model.

So, feel free to publish any and all of the content of my prior emails, letters, posts & comments. It is my most sincere hope that my writings have inspired a few good men & women to save our National form this dangerous peril.

Always the optimist, I am still hopeful that a strategy of bringing an Indictment from a Citizen’ Grand Jury of particularly egregious crimes by BO & co-conspirators, coupled with my original Jurisdiction Brief directly to SCOTUS can result in the LRBO. Keep the Faith! Leo

Sept 30, 2009

Let me emphasize again that the Nashville Judicial System is a Mother Lode for lawsuits for malicious prosecution cases. I am collecting names of other individuals who are innocent and being maliciously prosecuted by the DA, Torry Johnson. As you know, Johnson refused to prosecute known child molesters who were associated with the BO campaign in Nashville. Yet he prosecutes innocent men, based upon false accusations by disreputable people. Also he is covering up for the theft of two computers from the Nashville election commission by the BO campaign…

… The tipping point seemed to e when I wrote about Citizen Grand Juries and exposed DA Torry Johnson’s cover up of Sex Crimes at Al Farooq. Despite all the hardship that has befallen me, I am glad that I spoke out for a peaceful revolution for our Legal Systems. I have just now realized how horribly corrupt the Legal System is.

Sept 30, 2009

I am going to need an out of state attorney. The local attorneys are more or less controlled by the DA & the judges. Lin Woods of Atlanta, Ga is a good one. He defended Richard Jewell, the man who was falsely accused of the Atlanta Olympic Bombing. I will want to have a change of venue to Chattanooga, Tn, since Tom Brothers & DA Johnson are known for rigging juries.

Oct 1, 2009

Another issue for which I may be able to get some support for the NRA, of which I am a member, is that when I was arrested in May, the police confiscated my 12 guage shotgun & my hunting rifle from my home in Nashville without my permission….

…Please thank Phil Berg, Carl Swenson & Citizen Wells, & all the others who are reporting on my predicament. All I ever wanted was to practice entertainment law & exercise my rights to free speech, etc, under the Bill of Rights, but it looks like I have become a Political Pawn…

…There was something gloriously mysterious about a Mass in Latin.. Faith is one of the few refuges that we inmates have. Today the Chaplain led us in a song from Godspell; “See Thee more clearly…Love Thee more dearly…Follow Thee more nearly… Day by Day…”

My case should be a warning to Grand Jurors who want to go pubic; DON’T! Just get the Indictments, serve them on the foreman of the Conventional Grand Jury & on the judiciary and the press ANONYMOUSLY! They can’t arrest you if they don’t know who you are!

If you don’t hear from me again tomorrow night, 10/1/09 then that means that they have sent me back to MTMHI. I could not call you from there last time, but hopefully the bad guys now realize that falsely imprisoning me must makes it worse for them by getting my case publicized by OBAMA CRIMES, CITIZEN WELLS, RISE UP, THE STEADY DRIP, etc. Keep the Faith! Leo the Lawyer.

Oct 6, 2009 Sam speaks: We got a call today from Leo in prison saying he received notification that they will not deliver any of his mail to him. Thus far he has been able to send mail, which has been stamped “unopened.”

Posted by Aristotle The Hun at 12:59 PM :”
Free Leo the Lawyer blog
I have just gathered more information on this case and may report on it tomorrow.

462 responses to “Leo Haffey, Nashville TN attorney, Arrested, Obama thugs, Nashville corrupt?, District Attorney Torry Johnson, US Constitution, Haffey family threatened

  1. that’s horrible!!
    God bless Leo and his family

  2. If you had told me years ago that all this would transpire in America, I would’ve taken out commitment papers, and arranged for a nice, padded cell for you.

    I can’t believe this is all happening; it seems to have been entrenched at every level-local, state and federal yet, there are those in America who think that everything’s just fine.

    Praying for Leo and his family.

    CW, please update the blog if an attorney is found for him? Thank you.

  3. http://www.wagthedog2010.com/
    What they don’t want you to know.

  4. Axelrod pays a visit to FOX News’ owner Roger Ailes…

    They leave no stone unturned…

    Tonight on Shep Smith positive words about healthcare. Here we go.

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1009/27982.html

  5. Just a reminder to everyone. Remember when Soros made a public appearance in the spring and reassured that the “worst is behind us”, while at the same time admitting he had removed all his wealth from the markets as of January ’09.

    His definition of philanthropy.

  6. Venice,

    well said.

  7. JustMe,

    There’s a quiet on this blog that is unusual. I know this collapse is starting to hit everyone, even though most could see it coming.

    But people are very resilient. They only notice after they’ve weathered the storm. And while this is not a small storm, they will be surprised by their own internal resources.

  8. *****ATTENTION SOMEONE!!!!!
    I would like to have some sort of an answer to this question. I know it is OT,… BUT, I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT RIGHT NOW.

    PLEASE ANSWER THIS QUESTION:
    IF THE DOLLAR WILL HAVE NO VALUE,…. WHY WOULD PEOPLE WHO HAVE GOLD, SILVER AND ETC FOR SALE; WANT TO SELL IT FOR DOLLARS? IT WILL BE AS USE-LESS FOR THEM,….. RIGHT? SOMETHING JUST DON’T SEEM TO PASS THE SMELL TEST HERE GUYS? I MIGHT BE MISSING SOMETHING,…. SO PLEASE FILL ME IN……… OR AM I JUST THAT DUMB??????????
    JOYCE
    IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THIS IS A WAY FOR THE GOVERNMENT TO FOLLOW ALL TRANSACTIONS ABOUT GOLD,….. AND REMOVE IT FROM THE OWNERS…… DIDN’T FDR DO JUST THIS BACK IN THE DEPRESSION

  9. joyceaz // October 6, 2009 at 9:06 pm

    Hi Joyce,

    I have the same question as you, and no answer.

    With little to invest in any precious metal, I’m wondering what to do.

    CWers, please fill us non-financial types in?

  10. Venice,

    I noticed it, as well.

    People are certainly resilient. One doesn’t have to look too far back in their own lives to see their ability to weather any storm, no matter the size.

    My two mantras for weathering life’s storms are – Whenever there is a “breakdown” there’s a “break through” and “the only way out is through.”

    Once again, I thank you for all that you contribute on this site. I know many have gained much from your posts. You have a great ability to push past comfort zones.

  11. SueK,…… Thank you for a response. I have been wondering about this for awhile,…. and couldn’t understand why anyone would want the $$$$$ instead of GOLD!!!
    JOYCE

  12. What is our country coming to? BO is the worst criminal ever and he is getting away with high crimes of treason and fraud while an innocent guy like Leo the lawyer is in jail for exercising his freedom of speech. This is not American like it is supposed to be. Our constitution is walked all over by a corrupt congress and usurper. This saddens and sickens me.

  13. SueK,…… Thank you for a response. I have been wondering about this for awhile,…. and couldn’t understand IT.

  14. Joyce, you can barter with gold and silver. A loaf of bread for a little silver. gold and silver never lose value.
    none the less, we’re screwed..either way.

    They will take your 401 k before your gold

  15. cq,

    I cashed out my entire 401k. If you haven’t done so yet, do it now. The market is going to nose dive here soon.

  16. cq,….. I understand that. I am wondering why the people who have the gold……. WANT TO SELL IT FOR $$$’s? If $$$$’s are worthless why do they want to sell the gold??????? THATS MY QUESTION.
    thanks for response cq.

  17. JustMe,

    Not like me to be speechless, but I am. Thank you for kindest words. (I will recover and be posting soon).

  18. JeffM // October 6, 2009 at 9:27 pm

    If you can do that, Jeff-great. I have a ‘pension’ which is taken out bi-weekly; I have no choice but to leave it where it is-I don’t think I have an option, here.

    Deferred compensation, OBRA and CDs I can do something about. Thinking about putting that cash into pre-1933 gold coins if I can find them. also hanging on to any gold jewelry I have.

  19. joyceaz,

    I didn’t buy gold & silver for resale so I can’t help you with that question. I bought it to pay for things with no one will take the dollar.

    I also cashed out of my IRA – took the hit. At some point you have to pay the taxes on it and I figured I was better able to pay the taxes now than I would be in the future when things are really bad. Also, the tax brackets will change so better to do it now in a lower bracket than later.

    401k’s are a different matter. Can’t cash out of them like you can IRA’s. Some people I know took out loans against their 401k’s…you essentially pay yourself back. Others set up a “cash” account inside their 401k’s – you and your employer can still contribute but it’s not invested in anything.

    There are others on this site that are far more knowledgeable than I am that will hopefully answer your excellent question.

  20. Venice,

    I should have said more appropriately you have a gift not ability, and I should have included myself as having gained much from your posts, too.

  21. joyceaz // October 6, 2009 at 9:28 pm

    Just a thought here, maybe some people are selling off their gold to settle some big debts? Our money is worthless as we are in a fiat system. The more that the Feds print, the less their dollar is, (I say their dollar as if you look on their money it says Federal Reserve Note.) We used to have our money backed by gold and silver. Remember Gold or Silver certificates? This is what used to be on our money. The worth of that certificate used to be backed by the same amount printed on the note by gold or silver. Once the standard was eliminated we went to a fiat system and now we are reaping the benefits of it—-NOT. Nothing is backing our money and it should be.

  22. JustM,……… Thank you for your info.
    I am just trying to understand why anyone would sell gold……. for the worthless $$$$$$$$.
    It just does NOT make sense to me.

    OLDSALT,…. Can you help me with this mind boggling question that I cannot get an answer to?

  23. joyceaz,

    You sell gold at a higher price so you can buy gold at a lower price. Or buy other currencies trading at a higher price with the dollars you sold it for.

    It’s called trading commodities and it’s an age-old money-making process.

  24. joyceaz

    Because precious metals retain the “value” of money, that is their are not subject to inflation, their purchasing power gives you an edge at any point where you would liquidate it.

    For example, today you have $10.00 and you purchase amount x of gold. Let us say you can buy 5 quarts of milk today with $10.00, the gold you buy today will purchase same.

    6 months from now, with inflation that $10.00 you still have in your pocket can now only buy 3 quarts of milk(prices have gone up). But the gold you have if you liquidate today will give you purchasing power to buy 5 quarts.

    So by holding its value you can control your losses.

    I recently posted a video by Peter Schiff (can’t find it), whom many respect and who unequivocally called for this collapse several years ago. He declared that his money is in foreign investments but also oil and gold. That’s from the horse’s mouth.

  25. excuse typos: they are, not “their”

  26. I was just ready to buy some gold, until I saw this, could it happen again?.

    Following the privately held Federal Reserve Bank causing the Great Depression, in 1933, astonishingly FDR literally stole gold from citizens, ordering them to hand their gold to the privately held Federal Reserve Bank in exchange for pieces of paper .

  27. joyceaz,

    LJ has a plausible point about selling it for worthless dollars. Right now, the dollar still holds some value, so if you are have some gold to sell, time to cash in. However, you still have to pay taxes on your profit. But…you still need to hang on to some gold for future needs. You also don’t have to sell it for American dollars…you could put it in to other currencies…that means you have to watch foreign markets…my brain won’t go there.

  28. ARMY D.A.V // October 6, 2009 at 9:52 pm

    Does this mean we have to be a sheeple?

  29. L J // October 6, 2009 at 9:44 pm

    joyceaz // October 6, 2009 at 9:28 pm

    Just a thought here, maybe some people are selling off their gold to settle some big debts? Our money is worthless as we are in a fiat system. The more that the Feds print, the less their dollar is, (I say their dollar as if you look on their money it says Federal Reserve Note.) We used to have our money backed by gold and silver. Remember Gold or Silver certificates? This is what used to be on our money. The worth of that certificate used to be backed by the same amount printed on the note by gold or silver. Once the standard was eliminated we went to a fiat system and now we are reaping the benefits of it—-NOT. Nothing is backing our money and it should be

    LJ,…… Yes it would have to be for short term use
    This would make sense I guess.
    thank you for your help…… Just had me wondering why would gold be for sale…. when the $ is becoming worthless.
    Joyce

  30. Heres the act…….Presidential Executive Order 6102

    The Gold Confiscation Of April 5, 1933

    http://www.knology.net/~bilrum/goldconfiscation1933.htm

  31. ARMY D.A.V // October 6, 2009 at 9:52 pm

    Hi Army,

    I read about pre-1933 gold coins a while ago-it can’t be confiscated.

    Buy it if you can find it.

    I’ll be calling a Certified Financial Planner tomorrow to see what the options are. None of it looks too good at this point.

  32. Show me a lawful president and maybe I’ll comply. (GRIN)

  33. ARMY D.A.V.,…… Exactally what I was wondering. With the transactions available to the Government proving who bought gold…..
    this OPENS THE DOOR for them
    to aquire it from you. (just thinkin thats all)

  34. Sue K,

    Midas had some pre 1933 coins left a few days ago at a decent price. Remember, some people will be selling their coins now so you should be able to find a few. In fact, a few purchasers don’t take delivery on their purchase and ask the “broker” to hold on to it for them for resale.

    Silver is good to have for purchasing small items and necessities.

    Hopefully others will weigh in here on this.

  35. SueK

    If they can get a illegal alien Marxist in the WH , hell bent of destroying America and the whole world knows about it, they can do anything.

  36. It’s crunchtime!! Tell EVERYONE you know
    to watch an Alex Jones film online for free
    at yahoo or google. Terrorstorm is probably
    the best at explaining the New World Order.

    Link it up on your myspace and facebook accounts.
    Alex wakes people up quickly, and pulls
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    And for blocking the coming amnesty for
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    1 MILLION Patriots on this site. We’re
    rocking Congress hard with our faxes and
    emails.

  37. joyceaz

    Exactly…….

  38. JustMe // October 6, 2009 at 10:03 pm

    Thanks, JustMe.

    I did check all this out a few months ago (we could see this coming down the pike) and a few of the gold-selling companies did have the ‘hold for resale’ option while others suggested taking physical possession of the gold.

    Will have to check with the financial planner and see what’s recommended. Seems like a good way to run up the old credit card!

  39. ARMY D.A.V // October 6, 2009 at 10:05 pm

    Army, you typed a mouthful! Right you are.

  40. Sue K,

    yeah….rather have that on the old credit card than a couple pairs of Jimmy Choo shoes. KIDDING!

  41. Army DAV,

    While I can’t argue that history won’t repeat itself, it could arguably be quite some time if and when that happened.

    Why not invest now , before the dollar loses more of its value. Think of it this way, the Depression technically began 1929. Gold was not confiscated until 1933. That’s 4 years.

  42. JustMe // October 6, 2009 at 10:10 pm

    You betcha, JustMe.

    Jimmy Choo ain’t in my vocabulary, but Payless is .

    😦

  43. I did check all this out a few months ago (we could see this coming down the pike) and a few of the gold-selling companies did have the ‘hold for resale’ option while others suggested taking physical possession of the gold.

    ***************************

    Buy it , then put it in your safe…………

  44. Sue K,

    mine either, girl…couldn’t resist the opportunity.

  45. What about stocks in a major oil company, anyone?

  46. The Next ACORN Scandal: ACORN & The 2008 Obama Campaign

    http://hillbuzz.org/2009/10/06/next-acorn-scandal-direct-connection-between-acorn-and-2008-obama-campaign/

    Never forget there are a lot of Democrats who dislike O as much as you…maybe more.

  47. http://www.financialsense.com/fsu/editorials/schiff/2009/0925.html

    Yes, another timely piece by Peter Schiff. I should point out that he has declared his interest in being a member of Congress. He might be someone to consider, but haven’t fully thought this through.

  48. ARMY D.A.V // October 6, 2009 at 10:14 pm

    Well, then, Army, looks like I have to shop for a safe! The sock drawer is an option in the near term.

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    JustMe // October 6, 2009 at 10:14 pm

    Yep, JustMe, Payless and I are on a first name basis…

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    Rocknee // October 6, 2009 at 10:23 pm

    Hey Rocknee,

    I dunno about anyone else, but stocks of any kind make me a little twitchy these days.

  49. Ace,

    You’re probably right because they’ve been more disillusioned. Betrayal is not a good feeling.

  50. venice

    I’m not worried about a depression, I’m worried about the Republic…..

  51. Ace // October 6, 2009 at 10:26 pm

    Ace, that was a great piece-this is starting to get very interesting, aside from everything else that’s going on. Thanks for the link.

    Am I mistaken, or was Barky once the attorney for ACORN? I remember something about it.

  52. SueK

    You can take ACORN s advice and bury it in the backyard…..

  53. ARMY D.A.V // October 6, 2009 at 10:32 pm

    Right, Army! I’ll go get some tin cans ready right now.

    Good one 🙂

  54. Well Sue, as is the case with all of O’s past, it’s all very foggy!
    But here’s a good article from May 2008:

    http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=NDZiMjkwMDczZWI5ODdjOWYxZTIzZGIyNzEyMjE0ODI=

  55. Linda from NY

    Daily Prayer for America (Tues 10-6-09)

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2356322/posts

  56. Ace // October 6, 2009 at 10:38 pm

    Another good article, Ace, and very in depth. Thanks!

    As time goes along, I think we’ll see exactly how rotten this guy is…it’s only beginning.

  57. SueK et. al.
    The squirrels here are even “boycotting”
    the acorns on the ground. No joke, I just
    crunch across them in the driveway—no one
    wants an acorn this year!

  58. ATLAS EXCLUSIVE: ACORN Threw Out Republican Voter Registrations

    An Atlas exclusive with a former ACORN employee.

    In February of 2008, Fathiyyah Muhammad of Jacksonville, Florida, heard that ACORN was paying three dollars for each vote you could register. Fatiyyah claims she registered voters for Acorn there (at three dollars each), but that the group threw out her votes and fired her when she brought them GOP registrations.

    http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2009/10/atlas-exclusive-acorn-threw-out-republican-voter-registrations.html

  59. Folk, here is what the SCOTUS find important these days!

    http://news.aol.com/article/supreme-court-hears-dog-fight-video-ban/704398

  60. Rocknee // October 6, 2009 at 11:15 pm
    I’m sure glad they are looking out for the VERY IMPORTANT STUFF in our lives. Scotty- Beam me up there is no intelligent life down here!

  61. Maddie–even squires reject acorns~ Funny !)

  62. Ace ” a lot of Democrats who dislike O as much as you…maybe more.” Definitely more. The DNC with the corruption of Dean and Pelosi ACORN and others the Democratic convention, well toward Hillary supporters it was like being attacked by Nazi Germany-all of this is well documented on paper and on video. Thank God everybody got smart-first it was Hillary’s turn, then it was Sarah’s turn. For some odd reason they left John McCain alone-because he was a war hero? http://vodpod.com/watch/960557-we-will-not-be-silenced We Will not be Silenced.
    As Americans first, we would not want this visited on the entire nation, but it was. I hope this an other evidence puts Obama Pelosi and others in jail for a long long time. I wonder if McCain really won. It would serve them right. Don’t forget there were 18+ million Hillary supporters-I figure 75 per cent at least are disgusted with Obama and the Barbarians. They will do everything to support the Constitution. Country before party for sure.

  63. Re-do,

    I haven’t forgotten. Just wanted to thank you for the second video, very thoughtful of you. I liked but Mckee is still my favourite. Must be all those chords? Also liked PR’s video as well.

  64. Linda from NY-Shirley Caesar sings your prayer.
    http://www.imeem.com/sweetts4yoyo/music/J9EB61fB/shirley-caesar-his-blood/
    I love that little preacher lady.

  65. Venezuela model socialism , most definitely. The Kenyan has the purple shirts , Hugo has the red shirts.

    A group of red shirt-wearing Chavista thugs show up at a farm and seize the farm in the name of the government, under the pretext that the 103 hectare farm is “idle land” and that the law allows them to take it over for “food production.”

    Isn’t that already happening here?.

    http://michellemalkin.com/2009/10/06/this-is-what-the-thuggish-redistribution-of-wealth-looks-like/#comments

  66. ARMY D.A.V. Aren’t Juan and Eva Peron famous for these tactics too?

  67. maddie // October 6, 2009 at 10:55 pm

    Hi Maddie,

    I noticed that, too! I don’t have any oak trees around here, but there are some at work…the squirrels are just leaving the acorns this year; car tires crunch them every day.

    They say that animals are very intuitive-guess this proves it and also proves how smart they are!

  68. Michelle

    Sure, Hitler’s brown shirts they all have similar traits.

    They all start with Karl’s communist manifesto and customize their own versions.

    Hugo and Barry both use the south American liberation theology schemes, with a touch of Che.

    I guess you might say they use the same recipe.

  69. Mark Levin might be contacted by someone. Could be he would have knowledge of an attorney who might work with Leo. If I remember correctly, I think he was an atty on the staff of Judicial Watch at one time…….. know he has a website and does a radio show these days.

  70. http://apnews.myway.com/article/20091007/D9B5VOT00.html

    This half baked response to Afghanistan will almost ensure it’s failure. The situation is too fragile, too complicated, and too precarious to foot drag in this manner.

    Generals become who their are for their decisive abilities, one way or another. Obama needed to have his strategy carefully planned with as many contingencies as possible beforehand, thus reducing his timing missteps. This is not good.

  71. Silver-Gold???or

  72. Mark Levin,Malkin,Laura ingraham could care less about his ineligibility.Whenever conservatives call in they should hit a hot issue and then close with some comment about your hopes for some foreigner in 2012 as if its totally normal.Never mention American candidates!

  73. fb274,

    Mark Levin is a very good idea. Here’s a link for contact:

    http://www.marklevinshow.com/article.asp?id=1261987

  74. Oh Lord-anyone that fits the description can run against Obama as the Natural Born Citizen candidate. That would bring the issue out in the open, Obama couldn’t even open the door on that little sucker, from there when all are awake-a voided presidency and all his dumb laws, and czars, and bailouts, and corruption-poof gone.

  75. Michelle // October 7, 2009 at 12:16 am

    Hi Michelle,

    That’s a great idea!

    Do you think anyone would have the stones to do it? I’m thinking that maybe someone would, as this issue creeps into the American consciousness.

    I still say that something will crack by year’s end; I somehow get the sense that it may be this month. Call it womens’ intuition and my Mom’s ‘gifted’ family.

    G’night from the Right coast!

  76. Linda from NY

    Leo of Haffey

    Poor Leo sits in a jail cell tonight
    Wondering if anyone cares;
    No lawyer to help him sort it all out
    He just sits there alone and stares.

    How could this ever have happened
    To a man who did nothing wrong?
    It took but a moment for him to see;
    Something he knew all along.

    There are those in our land who are evil;
    And those who will do you no harm;
    For daring to stand up for what is right;
    For reaching to sound the alarm.

    In Chicago, we call them “thugs,”
    In New York, we call them “gangs,”
    But in the South, are the devil’s seed;
    Well-armed with horns and “fangs.”

    They lie and cheat and steal your life;
    With smiles upon their faces;
    The Angels of the Lord are prey;
    In the courts and other places.

    One false move, one spoken phrase;
    Will alert them every time;
    They move in fast and take you down;
    And charge you with a crime.

    Without further ado and little fanfare;
    They arrest you without cause;
    Until the hearing you will not know;
    What you did to give them pause.

    Witnesses rise up against you;
    Who couldn’t possibly know the truth;
    But they don’t care; so just beware;
    There’s no need for a super sleuth!

    We know what you did and so do they;
    There is nothing to your defense;
    We’re in charge in this here town;
    And there is no recompense!

    So Leo of Haffey, we find you guilty;
    Of the charges set heretofore;
    It matters not what your victim says;
    We have proof, and that’s the score.

    Not so fast says Fred of the FBI;
    Leo’s my client and in my care;
    If I were you, I’d mind my words;
    And tread carefully if you dare.

    Here is my list of requirements;
    Look it over and heed my words;
    Before the sun rises in the East;
    Leo will take flight with the birds!

    Linda

  77. Reinforcements coming for ‘pink slips’ campaign

    American Family Association to join effort to warn Congress

    2.5 million “pink slips” make their way to Congress, warning representatives and senators they will not be returned to office if they continue to flout American values, reinforcements are on their way.

    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=112177#

  78. Regarding the worthless paper dollar. Say you had $1000.00 in paper. and $1000.00 in gold which is a little over the 1 oz price at present. If you were to sell it for the $1000.00 in paper you will LOSE almost your complete initial investment. If you keep your gold you will have a commodity naving an intrinsic value of approximately $1000.00 dollars. This value can change from day to day because Gold value is not fixed. Now you cannot sell your gold for a monetary medium (USA currency) without losing on your investment. There are a few options; One is to consider selling it to someone in Canada. You would stand to gain more than here in the US. Two, is to hoard it, and hide it. But if BO copies the FDR action of 1933 you will be required to turn in your gold. But you will NOT receive any where near what you paid for it…….again a losing deal. Another idea which seems to be catching on a little is buying positions in strategic metals in lieu of GOLD. (COPPER,SILVER,ALUMINUM,ZINC,NICKLE,ETC). At present there is no requirement to file a liquidation form like is required for gold. This form is filed with the IRS and tells them how much you sold your gold,or silver for. When you file your annual tax returns you must account for the sale of the gold, and any profit earned. You are taxed upon your capital gain. However strategic metals are commodities. You are still required to file any capital gains on commodities with the IRS. However the buyer is not YET required to furnish his information to the IRS. I will say no more; the rest of the story is for you to reason out. Lastly you can do like a lot of people done during the dark days of the depression, and bury your gold in a secret location. If you do this now you can be sure that the Soetoro GOONS will ALL have the latest metal detectors, and will find your gold,and confiscate it…….again you lose. Some people think that a bank security box cannot be attached by the FED. The box cannot be attached, but the fed can attach what is suspected of being in the security box. And they WILL do it. The bank will be required to furnish the FED with a list of everyone having security boxes, and also an inventoryof the contents of each box. Voila you lose again. In the old days burying the gold was largely effective because there was no locator technology. Now there is. If you cannot legally own gold, and you cannot sell it because you will lose , then owning it becomes really risky. There don’t seem to be any other options out there. All I can suggest is WAIT and see what is going to happen in 2010. Anything we do is risky. Some options are really risky. FDR acted as he did because they had established the FEDERAL reserve bank, and he had ordered that the US be removed from the gold standard. Allegedly he didn’t want people hoarding gold. While the primary reason is a little different now as opposed to then, there is indeed sufficient reason for such a confiscation to occur. It is a quick way for the FED to steal our liquid assets which will end up in SOROS hands. Right ,wrong, or indifferent I chose to liquidate some of my holdings. Not all. I liquidated about 50%, then I went to Forex and put the money in Canadian dollars which at present are worth more than our own. I am currently holding the Canadian dollars. I am thinking about the feasibility of investing it in Canadian gold MINING STOCK, or perhaps Uranium stock. it would be Cameco for Uranium, and US GOLD Co., for the stock. But again you will pay heavy capital gains taxes for your stock earnings. There is no longer any safe places to put your money. The US government has finally forced even the SWISS banks to provide the names of US clients having assets in the Swiss banks. At present I think the best strategy is to continue to hold until at least 2010. Then carefully re assess your positions. But remember stuff can occur out of left field very quickly, and you MUST be in a position to divest quickly, if there is a need to.

  79. Do you suppose that Bin Laden will register to run for POTUS in 2012. Hells fire,if the Constitution is dead then we should pray for Orly to run for POTUS. Joe Wilson might be a good shot as well.

  80. CW and Aristotle

    This is a very confusing situation. I agree that it MAY mean something fishy is going on and that it bears watching.

    But what is missing is a “narrative”. We don’t know what happened, when it happened, or why it happened. We don’t even fully know Leo’s side of the story, let alone the other side.

    All you have provided is the report of a single individual, sitting in a jail cell, complaining that he has been wronged.

    That could equally well apply to anybody from Mother Theresa to Charles Manson. We have no information whatsoever to take sides or have any legitimate opinion about this.

    “Somebody” needs to be watching over the situation to ensure that this is not the begining stages of a creeping tyranny. And, yes, if he needs a lawyer, he should have one. But it seems premature and ill-advised for all of us to get fluffed up over this. Yet.

  81. Barack Obama is Osama bin Laden?

  82. Barack Obama’s Sickening Cowardice Towards Afghanistan & the War On Terror

  83. U.S. flu vaccination off to slow start, CDC says

    But at least three Chicago-area hospitals that have received the nasal spray vaccine said they would not be using it to immunize hospital staff because it is made from a weakened version of a live virus, unlike shots, which are made using a killed virus, and there is a very small chance of infecting someone with a weak immune system.

    Dr. John Segreti, an infectious diseases expert at Rush University Medical Center, said the hospital had received 2,000 doses of the nasal spray.

    “We’re going to be distributing it to clinics that see children. We’re not using this for our healthcare workers. We’re waiting for the inactivated vaccine for our health workers,” he said.
    http://www.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idUSTRE5955ND20091006

    They will give to the children that which they won’t take themselves.

  84. Jacqlyn Smith

    Have you all seen this….it was from a commenter at Leo’s site……..

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    I am not sure if this helps. A person on FreeRepublic posted a Arkansas Supreme Court case where eligibility was decided by the court *AFTER* the election. The guy had a criminal record and it was found out AFTER the election. He was bounced.

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2356333/posts?page=26

    Click to access 07-194.pdf

  85. Civis Naturaliter Natus
  86. Civis Naturaliter Natus

    I am proud to say my granddad never obeyed the 1933 act; and left to his kids and grandchildren quite a number of gold items and coins…

    We need to get beyond following unconstitutional laws, or feeling obligated to pay taxes to a unlawful Federal Government…

  87. Civis Naturaliter Natus

    Joyce AZ:

    The reason why lots of folks are selling gold right now is that they bought it a few years back for $325 a troy oz. and they need the cash now….

    You can buy gold coins and bars at Coin Shows, and most sellers will not file the gold transaction form….pay in cash and no questions…

    a little corner of American still left free…

  88. Malcom x and Obama??

    http://www.peoplespassions.org spooky!!

  89. OldSalt77 12:34pm,

    Found your summary statement lucid and substantive. I would only add a couple of things. Canadian banks are among the most robust in the world. It is why they have not taken a beating with this downturn. The economy has (less than the U.S.) but not the banks (at least not yet). Buying euros may be another possibility.

    The only point I might disagree with is the timing of one’s decisions. I fear 2010 may see a further devaluation in the American dollar, that it may be more prudent to act sooner rather than later. Assets that one might purchase , like gold, oil or other currencies will go up in the meantime, so as time passes the investor loses on both ends.

    But again thanks for your clear position. Your wisdom is invaluable .

  90. Civis Naturaliter Natus // October 7, 2009 at 6:43 am

    Joyce AZ:

    The reason why lots of folks are selling gold right now is that they bought it a few years back for $325 a troy oz. and they need the cash now….

    You can buy gold coins and bars at Coin Shows, and most sellers will not file the gold transaction form….pay in cash and no questions…

    a little corner of American still left free
    ********
    CNN,…….. OK,… I can see the reasoning there. But, the gold businesses (ads for gold for sale on the tv)…. quite another story. They are willing to give up their gold (even if they got it at a cheaper rate),…. for the worthless $. This is what I have a problem with. hmmmmmm Unless they are going to invest it in something that the government will not be interested in. Just thinkin about these things.
    thanks cnn for the insight.

    OLDSALT,… Your insight is very interesting. I do believe that you are spot on. (things are not always as they seem)
    THANK YOU,

    Joyce az

  91. ARMY D.A.V
    If you have a local coin shop maybe you can buy gold and silver bars or rounds. In my state if you buy more than $1000 there is no sales tax. Pay cash and just use your first name if they ask

  92. Jacqlyn Smith

    Every time I see a picture of the FRAUD in our house on the golf course it just PI$$E$ me off…….. reminds me too much of OJ Simpson and how he got away with murder…much like this SOB charading as POTUS!!!

  93. Joyceaz,

    Don’t know if my post at 9:50 pm helped, but I think the difficulty here is that you may be thinking about gold, liquidating to cash and then investing in something else. If you liquidate gold into American dollars to buy something else, you’re right it won’t help.

    The point of buying gold is to be able to convert it to cash immediately so that you can make purchases that are essential like food, utilities etc. In essence your storing value and taking it as you need.

  94. Brought this from downstairs:

    Kim wrote:

    ” // October 6, 2009 at 10:26 am

    Alex,
    “Though the mills of God grind slowly, yet they grind exceeding fine;
    Though with patience He stands waiting, with exactness all He grinds.”

    That was awesome!Thanks for bringing it over. Do you know who wrote it?”

    ~~~

    I thought i was from Milton’s Paradise Lost, but now I see that it is also credited to a couple of other sources, also. It is an Irish proverb:

    The mills of God grind slowly but they grind finely.

    It is also attributed to a guy named Logau, and Longfellow is involved, too, somehow. The poetry here is musical:

    Though the mills of God grind slowly, yet they grind exceeding small; Though with patience He stands waiting, with exactness grinds He all.

    -Logau, Friedrich von
    Sinngedichte, bk.3, pt.2, no.24 (translated as Retribution by Henry Wadsworth Longfellow). Logau used an anonymous classical source for the first line.

    I also found this about patience:

    In your patience possess ye your souls.

    -Bible (NewTestament)
    St Luke 21:19.

    And, of course, “Patience is a Virtue”! 😉

  95. Civis Naturaliter Natus wrote:

    ” // October 6, 2009 at 10:54 am

    I don’t think Carter deserves our patience, he has plainly indicated that he has decided to diss the constitution and all Scotus precedents.”

    ~~~
    The patience is not for Carter, it is for this thing to wend its way to justice. I was basically saying “Don’t give up!”

    I think Carter is amenable to public pressure changing his mind for the better, i. e., refusing to dismiss. As an ex-Marine, he will more likely take the people’s words to heart. That is why he is protesting our calls and letters – they’re GETTING TO HIM!!

    Still haven’t found his email. I was gone most of yesterday, so maybe some lovely individual here posted it already and I missed it…

  96. SueK // October 6, 2009 at 10:12 pm

    JustMe // October 6, 2009 at 10:10 pm

    You betcha, JustMe.

    Jimmy Choo ain’t in my vocabulary, but Payless is .

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Little too upscale for me……’yard sales’

  97. Rocknee // October 6, 2009 at 10:23 pm

    What about stocks in a major oil company, anyone?

    Hi, Rocknee.
    I read a book about ‘peak oil’, it isn’t happening now, it happened in the 70’s….yep, TPTB have been lying to these people for years, their defense being, “if we tell the world, there will be economic collapses and wars”.

    What did he just say??? DOH!!!

  98. citizenwells

    Carlyle.
    I do not recall asking anyone to get “fluffed”.

  99. Bringing this from downstairs, in case someone didn’t see it. Many thanks to cq!

    cq wrote:

    ” // October 6, 2009 at 12:47 pm

    Posting from Orlys site today

    Transcript from July 13 hearing, please read extremely important.

    Posted on | October 6, 2009 | No Comments
    I am publishing this transcript of the July 13 hearing so that the public can see the truth.
    What I’ve noticed it that Obama supporters are publishing some COMPLETE GARBAGE calling it unofficial transcripts. In reality they are distorting each and every word I am saying and trying to show me in a negative light. Somebody by name “Waveydavey” has written such garbage and distortions and Phil from “Right side of Life” posted it.
    When the transcript of the October 5 hearing is ready, I will post it.
    In reality I carried most of the hearing on my shoulders.
    Kreep showed up an hour late and was not prepared. He did not have any precedents, he did not provide a substantial argument.
    I have provided numerous points and precedents in the argument and counted any and all ridiculous assertions by the US attorneys claiming that no one citizen of this country has standing to bring challenge to this massive fraud and treason perpetrated upon the citizens of this nation by the usurper and his accomplishes (as you understand US attorneys didn’t use this very language and definitions). the public was applauding me repeatedly.
    Kreep also lied to the judge, where he stated that I have written on my blog that people should sue Kreep. I never written that- the man is a pathological liar- it is appalling what he and Wiley Drake are doing. Drake is telling the public, media and donors that I was thrown of the legal team, so that all the donations go to Kreep. Somebody, also, told the judge that I have written on my blog to people to call the judge. It never happened. I tried to correct the record but the judge would not let me speak further.
    What concerns me more then anything else, is that Judge Carter sounded completely different from what he was in prior hearings on July 13 and September 8.

    On July 13 I was entitled to get a Default judgment against Obama and postdefaultdiscovery, as I have properly sued Obama as an individual fora fraud that he committed as an individual before the election. I demanded from Judge Carter default or, if he is refusing to give me the default, I demanded a leave of court to get an interlocutory appeal. US attorney showed up at the hearing as a party of interest, representing USA and demanded to be served with the pleadings. He was stating that Obama was supposed to be served through the US attorneys office. I countered by stating that the service through US attorneys office is done, and defense by US attorneys at the expense of the tax payers is allowed only when a person is sued as a governmental official for what he did as an official. Obama defrauded the whole Nation, before becoming the president, by claiming to be eligible, and “we the people” should not pay for his defense, I served him properly and I am supposed toget a default judgment against him and a post judgment discovery.
    Judge Carter refused to give me the default. He twisted my arm time and again and pressured me to serve Obama yet again through the US attorneys office. At three different occasions at 10:40, 11:01 and 11:07 of the hearing judge Carter has assured me that if this deal is made, if I serve the US attorneys office, the case will be heard on the merits expeditiously and will not be dismissed on technicality. As I was refusing, I stated that I have great concerns that the US attorneys will be playing games, as they did in prior cases and will try to dismiss this case on technicality such as jurisdiction os standing.
    Please read 10:40 line 5.
    Court (meaning judge Carter ) is saying “In talking to you this way you are basically told, we are going to get to the MERITS (emphasis added) of this very quickly. The government is just asking for what THEY believe is proper service.” He did not state that I didn’t serve Obama properly, he is saying what They, the government, believes is the proper service.
    At 11:01 line 13. he says “I wish this would be resolved on it’s MERITS QUICKLY. And he is either not the president or he is”
    At 11:07 line 1 Judge Carter states “I mean if he is not president, he shouldn’t be president, if he is he should be. And we need to resolve it on the MERITS”
    On September the 8th judge Carter told the US Attorneys West and DeJutte that the chance of him granting motion to dismiss due to lack of standing is extremely law and he is ready to rule and have a hearing on this on Sept 11 in 3 days. At that time Gary Kreepsqueezed himself in the case representing 2 out of 48 plaintiffs and demanded more time. The hearing was postponed by nearly a month. During this month something happened. At October 5 hearing Judge Carter sounded as a completely different person. He did not sound as a brave Marine any more. He sounded scared, intimidated by somebody or something. He was trying to find ways to dump this case on another court- like DC court, drag his feet by telling us to plead the case again or dismiss on technicality- claiming no one has standing.
    I poured my heart out for over an hour, and at least he didn’t come up with a negative decision right then and there, but I am concerned. We had a clear deal back in July. If Judge Carter makes a 180 degrees turn now and rules for Obama and does not give me expedited discovery and hearing on the merits as he repeatedly promised during the July 13 hearing, then I and my clients were defrauded by the court. Then there is no system of justice for the citizens of this country.”

  100. Here’s a thought. Instead of buying Gold, Silver and Platinum, Buy Seeds and Plant a Garden. Pretty sure when the Dollar Dies in the next few months People will need to eat. Buy seeds. When Cap and Trade passes, we will all be living like Amish People anyway due to NO electricity. Also get a Bicycle. Since Gas will be to expensive, and Obama will shut down all the Power Plants so we can’t charge up our Prius’, The Bicycle is the only other solution except for a Horse and Buggy of course.

  101. Buy it all. We have crisis garden seeds, pre-1933 gold, guns and ammo, and food stores. All of this we began collecting after the fruadulent election took place.

    I am afraid scary times loom folks. Prayer is in order as well. We live in a foreign country now….IMHO

  102. Michelle 1203–nice music vid. Thanks.

    SueK on Michelle’s 1206–I second that motion! Great idea.

    Linda fm NY–great poem. Very well written. Thank you.

    OS77 1253–Very interesting information. Good to know. Thanks.

    CNN 643–also good to know. Thanks.

    Carlyle and CW–getting fluffed! That’s a new one for me.

  103. venice // October 6, 2009 at 10:28 pm

    http://www.financialsense.com/fsu/editorials/schiff/2009/0925.html

    Thanks Venice, yes, a straight shooter is what I call him…

    So if a family manages, at some cost to their lifestyle, to squirrel away an extra $1,000 in saving this year, but the government adds $20,000 in new debt per household, that family ends up owing $19,000 more than they did at the beginning of the year.

    In the end, Obama will get precisely what he publicly claims to desire but privately dreads. The Chinese government will come to its senses and stop buying Treasuries. This will cause the U.S. dollar to collapse, but it will also allow Chinese citizens to fully enjoy the fruits of their labor.

    But for now, it’s all pomp, circumstance and hypocrisy in Pittsburgh. Why yes, Madam Finance Minister, I’d love another of those crab cakes!

  104. OT–Planned Parenthood used underage girls in clinical trials pushing abortion:

    http://www.lifenews.com/nat5548.html

  105. from orlys site…

    More attacks on me and our treasonous Department of Justice is only covering them up

    Posted on | October 6, 2009 | No Comments

    There are constant cyber attacks on my web sites. recently someone did re-direct and directed traffic from my web site to Vista print.

    Google has been flashing virus warnings, though there are no viruses on my site

    Again a number of people cannot find my facebook account and I am being erased from their group of friends

  106. Inane quote of why O is not dealing with the Afghanistan situation:

    http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2009/10/05/profoundly-inane-quote-of-the-day/

  107. Video: Michele Bachmann defends Limbaugh, Beck

    Bachmann hearts right-wing pundits

  108. just for the record…
    When Huckabee had the “Big Bird” video on
    with Big B. asks MO questions and making
    remarks—- the “born in Kenya” was totally
    editted out. My question, what’s the problem
    with FOX News—NO GUTS?!

    They are not my favorites now IF they
    edit out the BC and Kenya from the original
    video—they AREN’T dealing with it, in
    case you haven’t noticed. And, yes, it makes
    me angry.

  109. Video: Hannity interviews Michael Moore

    Michael Moore, Sean Hannity Talk Mortgage Crisis

  110. SueK-I hope your intuition is right on. Do you remember years ago when a woman-I can’t remember her name-may have been a Democrat ran just to get an issue out. She knew she didn’t have a prayer of winning but she ran anyway just to get the issue on the ballot. Could it have been something to do with pro-life? She knew just like in this case her issue could not be ignored because she was in the thick of it.

  111. Video: Pelosi Open To Raising Taxes On Everything (VAT) Including The Poor

  112. Jacqlyn Smith

    I can’t imagine what these brave men and women are going through….and yet the FRAUD sits on his hands and does nothing….story found at…..

    http://abcnews.go.com/International/wounded-us-soldiers-refused-leave-taliban-fight/story?id=8754347#
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Exclusive: Wounded U.S. Soldiers Refused to Leave Taliban Fight
    Afghan Attacks: Darkness, Smoke Forced Medevac Doctors to Work by Touch
    By KAREN RUSSO
    KAMDESH, Afghanistan Oct. 5, 2009

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    ABC News’ Karen Russo was the only reporter to get to the scene of this weekend’s bloody firefight between U.S. troops and hundreds of Taliban insurgents when she went in on a MEDEVAC helicopter. Here is her report:
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    Eight U.S. troops were killed and 24 were injured in the battle.

    Flying into the besieged Afghan base during a nighttime firefight this weekend was a harrowing mix of overwhelming noise, stomach dropping maneuvers and shadows hurrying through the gloom.

    When the chopper lifted off moments later with three wounded soldiers, it left behind others who were wounded but refused to be MEDEVACED out of the combat zone so they could return to fight with their buddies.

  113. Jacqlyn Smith–re: Arkansas eligibility issues after the fact. It should it is precedent at least in Arkansas.

  114. Endemic Corruption and what to do about it.

    The Theory of Pre-Constitutionalism.

    http://thepostnemail.wordpress.com/2009/10/07/editorial-oct-7-2009-%e2%80%94-endemic-corruption-and-what-to-do-about-it/

  115. Daily Presidential Tracking Poll
    Wednesday, October 07, 2009 Email to a Friend ShareThis.Advertisement
    The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Wednesday shows that 29% of the nation’s voters Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as President. Thirty-seven percent (37%) Strongly Disapprove giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of -8 (see trends). Republicans hold a four-point edge on the Generic Congressional Ballot.

  116. Patriot Dreamer

    More details from blogger Anne Leary and her recent encounter with Bill Ayers and his admission that he wrote “Dreams From My Father”:
    http://backyardconservative.blogspot.com/2009/10/bill-ayers-no-dream.html

  117. Pamela Geller.

    ACORN AGAINST REAGAN circa 1981

    Bill Ayers , Prairie Fire

    By 1969, their Great Society liberalism had been co-opted by Marxists, Maoists, Spartacists, and other assorted revolutionary groups. They were no longer interested in change, but overthrowing the government. It was during this time that Wade Rathke first came into contact with Bill Ayers.

    http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/

  118. sandy // October 7, 2009 at 9:06 am

    Buy it all. We have crisis garden seeds, pre-1933 gold, guns and ammo, and food stores. All of this we began collecting after the fruadulent election took place.

    I am afraid scary times loom folks. Prayer is in order as well. We live in a foreign country now….IMHO

    Spam……50 year shelf life.

  119. The Lord God misses nothing.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dies_Irae
    Lo! the book, exactly worded,
    wherein all hath been recorded:
    thence shall judgment be awarded.
    When the Judge his seat attaineth,
    and each hidden deed arraigneth,
    nothing unavenged remaineth.
    What shall I, frail man, be pleading?
    Who for me be interceding,
    when the just are mercy needing?

  120. Linda from NY

    twe: This test is hysterical! Did you happen to read to whom this test is made available at the bottom of the page? LOL Thanks for sharing!

  121. Linda from NY

    Michelle: Thanks for the “ancient” poem! What a find…pertinent to all time as well. Thanks for sharing!

    BTW…Thank you for the “preacher’s song.” Unfortunately, I was unable to listen; my e-mail address and password were not accepted. Is there any way you could pull it out so I could hear it without having to “sign in?” I would appreciate it since you would not have sent it to me if you did not think I would enjoy it. Thanks.

  122. JJ-don’t forget thrift, consignment and resale shops. I saw a cute little story down here in Florida. It was 4-5 girlfriends who get together every Friday night, to visit, chat the usual. What they do (in their neighborhood at least) the “stuff” is put out for collection so they pick it up neatly, take it home, fix, clean, launder the all encompassing whatever. They all furnished their houses with their free booty, what they can’t use they donate to the poor people-repaired. I believe they were teachers with children. They have a good time and save money at the same time.

  123. http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2009/10/05/profoundly-inane-quote-of-the-day/

    There’s a finite amount of time in the day. A major financial crisis and global recession arose last fall. Dealing with that takes time. Obama, unlike Bush, acknowledges the scientific evidence that the world is poised on the brink of catastrophic climate change. Dealing with that takes time. There’s a need for new financial regulations. Dealing with that takes time. A new administration needs to appoint hundreds of people to various jobs and get them confirmed. That takes times. And the administration is trying to pursue comprehensive health care reform. That also takes time. Doing lots of things that take lots of time leaves less time for other things.

    But apparently not “less time” for things like jetting off to Copenhagen with the Mrs. to lobby for the Olympics to be held in Chicago. Apparently not “less time” to appear on David Letterman in order to sell ObamaCare. Apparently not “less time” to hold “town halls”/campaign stops on healthcare and other issues in swing districts across the country that the administration thinks Congressional Democrats have a chance of holding on to in 2010.

  124. glen beck, the end of the dollar

  125. Michelle Bachman trying to hold her own on Larry King – regarding the ‘birther’ issue:

  126. Alex, thanks for identifying your quote. It IS musical!

    In your patience possess ye your souls.
    -Bible (NewTestament)
    St Luke 21:19.

    That is beautiful and so important right now!

  127. As far as Axelroid meeting with FOX News … Someone should bring the Rev Manning video over where he states that he believes the WH gave FOX the Acorn story to stay off of the NBC issue ….????

  128. Linda from NY

    Carlyle: I am “puffed up.” It is my understanding Leo has been charged with a crime he did not commit, but the actual “crime” is the lack of judicial integrity from the “arresting officer” through the court system including the “judge.” The charges appear to be “trumped up” because Leo broke a law that is not on the books, and that law is “Thou shall not speak against the “anointed one.” Two gay members of Trinity Church were killed, Larry Sinclair was unlawfully jailed, a witness in the Passport Break-in case was killed, and probably many more people have been “harmed” because they were a threat to the “powers that be.” Leo’s family has testified; they were rebuffed. Leo was not given the “right to counsel,” and a host of other maladies have befallen him. Why? Why is he being charged and incarcerated for something his family says he did not do? It is obvious to me this is a case of “collusion” to deny Leo his basic unalienable rights. CW is not at liberty to discuss what he must keep in confidence; hence, the question: What’s the big deal? Why get all “puffed” up about something we have minimum information to discern? Because, dear Carlyle, CW knows what happened and while he is certainly not perfect and is prone to error like the rest of us, I do not think any of us would be here supporting his efforts if we had no faith in him or what he asks us to help him to defend or do. Just MHO.

  129. How many time do I need to say this….

    We need to find viable replacement candidates for the 2010 elections NOW!

    Where I live (CA) we have a bimbo congresswoman (D) in office and she should be put in a senior home. But guess what, no one is on the radar screen wanting to run against her. Were trying to find someone, but it’s not that easy.

    If we want to take this country back, we need to unite and organize NOW!

  130. Linda.
    Thanks.
    I waited for several days to get more feedback.
    I have 3 affidavit copies of the charges which are all very suspect and mesh with info
    I was given by 2 close sources.
    Both of these ladies making charges are neighbors of Haffey.
    The big question now is the bond controversy.
    I am looking for more answers.
    The very questionable charges do not merit being held with no bond.
    There is more to this story.

    PS-This has smelled from the beginning and still smells.
    I just want some answers.

  131. hapnHal.
    I agree!

  132. Linda from NY

    Michelle: The website will not let me listen unless I “sign in.” When I sign in, it tells me my e-mail address and/or password are invalid. Thus, I cannot listen. What can I do?

  133. Does someone know how to get Mr. OBAMAFILE’S e-mail?

  134. Linda from NY try this one. Took me awhile to hunt this down.
    http://www.rhapsody.com/shirley-caesar/livein-chicago-with-rev-milton-brunson

  135. Linda from NY-click on the link I sent you it is #2 on there.

  136. http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/10/the_trauma_of_obama.html

    “Obama’s Revenge”, I believe another AT article dovetails with this. Remember when Soros said “I’m having a wonderful crisis”.

  137. A couple more:

    Maobama
    Chairman ObaMao

  138. Linda from NY

    Michelle: Got it! Thanks! The “Preacher Lady” sure is impressive, and she speaks the truth! “God has the answers; we only have to ask the questions.” It is my belief and will continue to be my belief that “God is in Charge!” Someone remarked recently about the increased number of people attending services this past weekend. I believe people are turning away from what they have “accepted” in order to be “tolerant,” and are speaking out and acting out in favor of “Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness.” While not all people find solace in organized religion, many have “spiritual” connections to their Creator and acknowledge His power and glory. This acknowledgment alone could save our nation IMHO. “In Him, Through Him, and With Him,” we shall overcome the forces of evil that seek to destroy us and our beloved country!

  139. http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/8491

    No it was CFP. I’ve reposted for anybody who is interested.

  140. Linda from NY

    Prairie: Thanks for the link to Constitutionally Speaking…my answer? All of the above. Yikes!

  141. Linda from NY

    Patriot Dreamer: Ya gotta hand it to Leo D.; he’s thinking “on his feet” and “leaving no stone unturned” in his quest to uncover the truth. Methinks HI has more “skeletons” in their many closets than meets the eye. Thanks for sharing!

  142. OT, but noteworthy.

    I believe this is the first of many false-flag attacks on our country. Just have to believe this guy was a plant to justify the government cracking down on the right-wing terrorists.

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,561587,00.html?test=latestnews

  143. hapnHal

    Restore the Republic…..

    Look for veterans returning from the war , they all had background checks ,BC’s, citizenship established before they took their oath .

    Oaths taken without a background check and proof of citizenship are null and void.

  144. Linda from NY-Shirley and God walk hand in hand she is very famous.
    After hearing the voice of God during a college exam, Shirley Caesar (born 1938) believed it was her duty to spread the Gospel. This “calling” has developed into 150 concerts per year, volunteer work for the poor, numerous Grammy awards, and over 30 record albums.
    With 150 concerts a year, 25 hours a week helping the poor in her Outreach Ministries, several Grammies, and 30 record albums to her credit, Shirley Caesar may seem to be a whole army of gospel singers instead of just one diminutive (5’1, 3/4″) cherubic-looking woman. The “Queen of Gospel” packs a lot of wallop in her small frame. Backed by a sixty-person choir, rocking like a tempest, she is a bundle of fireworks on the Fourth of July. The gospel style of song and sermonette, singing that involves both the spoken word and dramatic acting, was developed primarily by Shirley Caesar. She journeys all over the world, sometimes traveling all night to return to her pulpit in Durham, North Carolina, the town where she was born. “It is not easy,” said Shirley in her 1995 video He Will Come (Word Records), “In fact, sometimes it is downright mind-boggling. But, somehow, even though I’m wearing all of these hats, the Lord helps me to just barrel through it.” Shirley has barreled through fifty years of touring and preaching, starting at age ten, and she continues to bring the house down every time she performs.
    The tenth of 12 children, Shirley Caesar was born October 13, 1938. Her father James was a tobacco worker who was well-known in the Carolinas as the lead singer in a gospel quartet, the Just Came Four. Shirley began singing with the group at age ten. When she was twelve, her father died, and she began touring with an evangelist named LeRoy Johnson, who also had a television show in Portsmouth, Virginia. In 1951, at thirteen, she recorded her first song “I’d Rather Have Jesus.” While still in high school, she toured throughout the Carolinas.

  145. Linda from NY

    Found this on AOL…surprised the heck out of me!

    Orly Taitz: Lawyer, Dentist, Birther

    http://t.love.com/258254051

  146. Linda from NY

    Michelle: Thanks for the background information on Shirley, The Preacher Lady. Wow! I learn something new here every day! You bring Florida sunshine here on a daily basis, too!

  147. Linda from NY

    Oops!

    Pirates Mistakenly Fire on Military Vessel

    http://news.aol.com/article/somali-pirates-attack-french-navy-ship/446496

  148. Magna Carta:

    Beckwith at TheObamaFile dot com

    Beckwith@The Obama File.com

  149. Linda from NY

    Sue K: Help!

    Sebelius: Americans Must Get H1N1 Vaccination

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,561586,00.html?test=latestnews

  150. ARMY D.A.V
    If you have a local coin shop maybe you can buy gold and silver bars or rounds. In my state if you buy more than $1000 there is no sales tax. Pay cash and just use your first name if they ask
    ________

    Why concern yourself about sales tax, when they can grab your non-1933 gold bars ?

    I think the pre-1933 gold bullion which cannot be grabbed, combined with a gold fund outside the U.S. is a strong hedge against inflation.

    Ticker: CEF (Central Fund of Canada) is a highly ranked play…

    It also cannot be grabbed IF it gets that bad.

  151. Linda from NY-Thank you but don’t forget I grew up in Chicago suburbs, that’s how I’m familiar with the lying scum bag potus.
    In response to accusations that we Constitutionalists (birthers) are nuts.
    The only proof of citizenship Obama supplied was fraud. Who ever heard of any citizen pulling that other than illegal aliens, spies etc.much less someone running for potus.
    Obama not eligible, then Constitution not legal (enforced) -No proof, no cigar.
    They don’t realize they defacto are insulting the Constitution by ignoring the criteria for legality for any of us to run for President of the United States of America.
    Everyday from so many different lawyers, assistants, researchers,angles-there is going to be a break thru so big even they will not be able to spin it-possible also ACORN fraud investigations re: last election cycle.
    We need to launch our candidate soon. I am running as the Natural Born Citizen of the United States of America. That would drive them nuts. It can be an internet campaign, due to our candidate is really into fiscal responsibility.

  152. Not to mention a COUPLE of passports, incase one gets consficated. One to somewhere, and one from that country coming back, incase one gets taken.

  153. o/t but was asked to pass this along. Thought BG posters would like this bill –

    Subject: HR 615 – Please forward to everyone you know

    On Tuesday, the Senate health committee voted 12-11 in favor of a two-page amendment, courtesy of Republican Tom Coburn which would require all Members of Congress and their staff members to enroll in any new government-run health plan.

    Congressman John Fleming has proposed an amendment that would require Congressmen and Senators to take the same health care plan that they would force on us.. (Under proposed legislation they are exempt.)

    Congressman Fleming is encouraging people to go to his Website and sign his petition. The process is very simple. I have done just that at:

    http://fleming.house.gov/index.html

    Senator Coburn and Congressman Fleming are both physicians. Regardless of your political beliefs, it sure seems reasonable that Congress should have exactly the same medical coverage that they impose on the rest of us.

    Let’s make this go viral, folks!!! Please urge as many people as you can to do the same!

  154. Linda from NY

    venice: Thanks for sharing the American Thinker article…it was truly inspirational and trueful in explaining exactly what we are all experiencing and why!

    For Kim, a new name: Obamatrauma

  155. Linda from NY

    Michelle: First-hand knowledge of the Chicago Cesspool enlightens us all…true. However, we all need some Florida sunshine from time to time don’t you think? So, send some, pleeeeese!

    What “gets my goat” is how many of those Chicago thug friends of his are now working in our government! We definitely have much “house-cleaning” to do and not just in Congress.

  156. Linda from NY

    Impressive! A Man on a Mission!

    Man Walks From Texas to Washington With 12-Foot Cross

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,561520,00.html

  157. Why get all “puffed” up about something we have minimum information to discern?

    “Justice denied for one is justice denied for all”

  158. Linda from NY

    Richard: Does that mean we will all have to move to Canada to be close to our assets? Thanks for the link. oldsalt77 was talking about some things he did with his portfolio involving divestiture last night. Wonder what he thinks about this advertisement.

  159. Linda from NY

    JJ: agree wholeheartedly! Thanks for bringing that information to our attention.

  160. Linda from NY // October 7, 2009 at 12:12 pm

    Richard: Does that mean we will all have to move to Canada to be close to our assets? Thanks for the link. oldsalt77 was talking about some things he did with his portfolio involving divestiture last night. Wonder what he thinks about this advertisement
    ________

    No, you can own the hard stuff, pre-1933, and/or the soft stuff, a gold fund OUTSIDE of the U.S.

    You can liquidate the fund anytime and wire back to your account.

    Also, if i was holding the hard stuff (Bullion), i would have it OUTSIDE of any bank…..

  161. Michelle

    We’re not nuts , we ‘re patriots , they are traitors and ignorant heathens.

    Natural Born Citizen , from the bible, those born of citizen parents …….

    Deuteronomy 17:14-15

    When thou art come unto the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee, and shalt possess it,
    and shalt dwell therein; and shalt say: ‘I will set a king over me, like all the nations that are round about me’; thou shalt in any wise set him king over thee, whom the LORD thy God shall choose; one from among thy brethren shalt thou set king over thee; thou mayest not put a foreigner over thee, who is not thy brother.

  162. Linda from N.Y.,

    For your eyes only………………..

    i believe Sheena Easton,

    http://www.bullionvault.com/#salamis

    Another good source for owning OUTSIDE of the U.S.

    Not to create fear, just simple DEFENSIVE information, creates alot of faith, strength !

  163. Richard
    Why concern yourself about sales tax, when they can grab your non-1933 gold bars ?
    ###################################
    Point is if you buy with cash and don’t give your name what’s to grab?

  164. Linda from NY-The Battle for Chicago rages on-in here would be the corruption of the Obama admin led by Valerie Jarrett and others. This is the taxpayers money at work, everyone needs to realize these communities go on for miles. This must be some kind of cottage industry HUD builds these via people like Jarrett-substandard all the way reaps the financial reward due to she’s a crook, then takes up managment runs them into the ground while taking a management fee more stealing, then attempts to get the Olympics (too bad, so bad lost that one). This story is HUGE, it could keep 50 reporters busy. I hope these videos help everyone understand what is at stake. I wonder if the law could get Valerie on human rights violations, she puts these people in danger everyday they live in one of her “villages”.
    http://video.google.com/videosearch?hl=en&source=hp&q=Grove+Parc&rlz=1R2GPEA_en&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ei=j77MSv-SGqiltgekrODvAQ&sa=X&oi=video_result_group&ct=title&resnum=4#
    http://video.google.com/videosearch?hl=en&source=hp&q=Grove+Parc&rlz=1R2GPEA_en&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ei=j77MSv-SGqiltgekrODvAQ&sa=X&oi=video_result_group&ct=title&resnum=4#

  165. Michelle–yeah, that test is funny…I went back to read it based on your question. I read part of it before but missed the second line. Thanks!

  166. Prairie 1235–maybe it should say “confirmed.” We’ve all known about this for some time.

  167. Prairie
    “Obama’s Attorney General, Eric Holder, has apparently hired a cadre of left-wing, Democrat campaign bloggers to troll through the Internet looking for news stories and blog posts that denigrate the Obama agenda”
    just in case they are looking understand this-we support the Constitution of the United States of America, Obama and minions you think that the rules that you make up on any given day come from “The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich” by William L. Shirer. He wrote that book as a history not a manual. This is why we will always be at odds with you. In case you didn’t finish the book Hitler came to a bad end, too bad 60-80 million people had to pay the price for his insanity, try not to repeat, but you are taking a very slippery slope on some issues you have already gone over the edge.

  168. Warning–posting humor:

  169. Linda frm NY

    Sebelius: Americans Must Get H1N1 Vaccination
    \\\\

    Remember the headline I posted yesterday about Axelrod paying a visit to Roger Ailes of FOX News?

    Remember Glenn Beck was supposed to do an entire show on the H1N1 situation last night? He was to present BOTH sides and let us decide. Well.. last night his program was on the dollar. Of course he hit it out of the ballpark last night, but NO mention was made about why he was changing the subject matter.

    Noticed too Shep Smith was speaking somewhat favorably of the vaccine.

    Now they’ve really gotten to FOX.

  170. Patriot Dreamer

    JustMe // October 7, 2009 at 12:52 pm

    Remember Glenn Beck was supposed to do an entire show on the H1N1 situation last night? He was to present BOTH sides and let us decide. Well.. last night his program was on the dollar. Of course he hit it out of the ballpark last night, but NO mention was made about why he was changing the subject matter.
    ****************************************
    I thought Glenn said that was to be Thursday’s show? I might be misremembering, though.

  171. Just Me- I thought the H1N1 show on Glen was suppose to air on Thursday of this week. I sure hope they haven’t gotten to Beck. I don’t always agree but he is one of the few that I feel are telling us the truth.

  172. Linda 12:00 pm,

    “Obamatrauma”, that gets first prize!

  173. Eagle, if you buy with cash, how do you know you are getting gold and not a fake? Can’t a disreputable seller rip you off?

  174. Linda from NY

    Sue K: Sure do. Methinks they have been paid off! Rev. Manning thinks they do not represent us; he says they are “muzzled.” He claims Beck is a Fake and says they will not touch certain subjects with a 10-foot pole. That meeting was significant. It just goes to show how far they will go to keep what they are doing “secret.” After all, if the minions knew, they might revolt. My answer to AxelRx: We will survive! We will continue to bring your lies to the fore, and we will work harder to bring you down!

  175. Linda from NY

    Just Me: Sorry I directed my answer to Sue K. Thanks for reminding me of what you offered for our inspection. Sue K’s post should have been directed to you…my bad.

  176. Paulajal
    I usually buy silver coins and silver and gold bars. They are made by reputable companies and sold through distributors.

  177. Linda from NY

    Michelle: Is it true they have scrubbed the videos that showed the dilapidated housing development during the election? What cowards! Those poor people have been duped! I hope they no longer support the Fraud if they ever did.

  178. Linda from NY

    twe: Arizona Sheriff’s Powers. Anytime someone steps up to the plate, they are squashed like a bug! If I were the Sheriff, I would march right in the WH and arrest the man who is pretending to be our president! What gall! Thanks for sharing!

  179. Linda from NY

    twe: About the EU. Was there any question the formation of the EU was an answer to our global position in the world as the only “Super Power” left after the fall of the Soviet Union? It may be this is part of the plan to divide the globe into three parts before it is unified under the NWO.
    I can tell you, honestly, I am not surprised the EU is making its move. After all, they are being strengthened by the decline through debt of the USA and thereby, emboldened to flex their muscles with the money they stole from us through our banks IMHO.

  180. From Dr. Orly’s website-Hope everyone can get thru now. She is trying to restore all her other accounts that the idiots hacked. This hacking in itself would be a good story. Even if I disagreed with someone I would not going hacking their “stuff”. This speaks volumes for the criminal opposition. “by their acts you shall know them”.
    http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/
    Re: Dentist drills into Obama Mystique with sharp legal tools
    Tuesday, October 6, 2009 9:07 PM
    “We are working on several levels:
    – Eligibility for office– This is NOT only about a birth certificate. It also includes foreign travel/timing, possible renunciation of citizenship, dual citizenship, alien father, mother’s residency requirement, school and scholarship applications, possible social security and draft card fraud. These may all be felonies.
    – Impeachment– Not yet feasible, due to current Democrat/Marxist supermajority and wimpy RINO’s. As Obama outrages mount and Congressional seats are won, even that resistance might melt away.
    – Publicity and legal action– To place the harsh glare of publicity on Obama’s murky origins, sleazy associates, shocking beliefs and actions.
    Electoral– Attempt to gain a majority in Congress, or at least eliminate the Senate supermajority in 2010.
    – HR1503– To mandate eligibility checking procedures in future elections. Not enough support for this bill yet, but events may change that.
    – Opposing offensive Obama and Congressional actions– Via opposition party, Tea Party, foundations, blogs, individual letter writing, etc.
    – Push to enact state level 10th amendment legislation, promote restoration of a constitutional republic
    Regards,
    George Miller

  181. Linda from NY-remember these communities go on for miles. If anything these buildings detoriated at a faster rate under Obama-Jarrett than ever before. Why?, the taxpayer money went into their pockets, never ever reached the folks that it was intended to help. THIS IS RICO WORTHY. Other than ineligible this is by far where Obama and fellow crooks are the weakest.
    http://video.google.com/videosearch?hl=en&source=hp&q=grove%20parc%20chicago&rlz=1R2GPEA_en&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wv#

  182. Venice,

    The Am Thinker article was great. I was moved by the story of the Icelanders for exactly the same reason cited in the article. A tiny country whose peoples have a lot of might. They weren’t contented to play victim any longer.

  183. Thursday for Beck on the H1N1? Guess I didn’t heard something else. Wait and see.

    Nonetheless, we all know even FOX is controlled by other powers. It’s evident by what they DON’T cover. So, we forced to go to the Internet, and we do. That frontier is next on the list for the dictators to control. Then…we’ll have to revert to mediums from years past.

  184. Any chance on getting legal aid from ACLJ, or ADF for Leo?

  185. Linda from NY-I had not seen this one before, the same Obama Jarrett scam with the taxpayers money.
    http://video.google.com/videosearch?hl=en&source=hp&q=grove%20parc%20chicago&rlz=1R2GPEA_en&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wv#
    Grove Parc Plaza- Obama World
    04:14 – 10 months ago youtube.com
    Yeah. There IS such a thing as “institutionalized racism.” Except its not practiced by conservatives. Its practiced by The Left. And it is a downward spiral into economic … youtube.comGrove Parc Plaza- Obama World
    04:14 – 10 months ago youtube.com
    Yeah. There IS such a thing as “institutionalized racism.” Except its not practiced by conservatives. Its practiced by The Left. And it is a downward spiral into economic … youtube.com

  186. Patriot Dreamer

    Just Me,

    Hope it never comes to this, but:

    White Rose
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_rose

  187. Linda from NY

    Michelle: Jarrett and PP should be ashamed but alas, it doesn’t bother them as they laugh all the way to the bank. If we had a federal prosecutor with the “guts” to take them all down RICO-style, we would be getting somewhere. I still believe the truth will come out; I just pray sooner rather than later.

    Thanks for the “Dr. Taitz” update. Are you able to get into her website yet?

    If Our Lady hears our pleas and asks her Son to intervene, maybe Judge Carter will see the light today!

  188. Here in America you can call the honest Americans Democrats. Most of the blame should fall on the DNC, Nancy Pelosi in a staring role. 75 per cent of us will go with the other honest Americans called the loyal opposition.
    Isn’t it true that every honest German is ashamed of his government these days? Who among us has any conception of the dimensions of shame that will befall us and our children when one day the veil has fallen from our eyes and the most horrible of crimes – crimes that infinitely outdistance every human measure – reach the light of day? ”
    — From the first leaflet of the White Rose

  189. linda fm NY–yep, the world is turning upside down…and not in the right way.

  190. Linda from NY-I can get thru her website fine now. This is what she is trying to restore. The treasonous AP she is referring to is fake popularity numbers for Obama so I sent her Rasmussen-which has shown in the negatives since June 30. The media must think the entire country all fell off the cabbage truck at the same time.
    Treasonous AP
    4708
    I can’t get into my AdSense account- my password stopped working
    My gmail account was hacked, I can’t get into my gmail
    More attacks on me and our treasonous Department of Justice is only covering them up

  191. Kim: just sayin’…thought I remember reading/hearing long time ago that Bin Laden’s a very tall guy…about 6’5″…that would tough to ‘hide’, even for O. He aint no 6’5″…G. Bush senior’s about 6’4″, I think. What’s O? 6’1″?

  192. Fernley Girl

    “…why do you allow these men who are in power to rob you step by step, openly and in secret, of one domain of your rights after another, until one day nothing, nothing at all will be left but a mechanized state system presided over by criminals and drunks? Is your spirit already so crushed by abuse that you forget it is your right – or rather, your moral duty – to eliminate this system?” (From Leaflet 3) The White Rose

  193. Linda from NY

    twe: How sad! The Bioethics article…Thanks for sharing!

  194. Just got off the phone with my source on the APF ~Hardin, MT story. If the weather cooperates (lots of snow today) and if all goes according to plan he (reporter Nick Lough, Kulr 8) is going to appear on The Glenn Beck show tonight somewhere around 5:22. Good Luck sweetie!

  195. don’t know if you find this encouraging, discouraging, or even ‘foolish’ to mention:
    but if you understand and believe what is written about this age, the NWO will last 7 years.

  196. No more wasted time! (warning SueK)

    http://baracksteleprompter.blogspot.com/

  197. venice: glad Andy’s music struck a chord with u.

  198. Reduce your carbon footprint–go before you fly:

    http://www.moonbattery.com/archives/2009/10/pee_before_you.html

  199. Linda from NY

    Re-Dude: That’s seven years of bad luck! Who broke the mirror?

  200. Linda from NY // October 7, 2009 at 11:41 am

    Hi Linda,

    Just back in the office.

    Don’t sweat it…still not mandated. Sebelius, as usual, is talking out her butt.

    Please keep in mind that the vaccine manufacturers *cannot* be held accountable for any ‘damage’ their vaccines do to you-first time this has ever happened. If you recall in years past, there have been a slew of lawsuits against drug manufacturers because of adverse reaction to their ‘drugs.’

    They keep on spouting that the H1N1 vacine is *safe.* How do they know? We’ve not had enough time to determine any adverse effects down the road, because we don’t yet have a ‘down the road’ time period. What happens in 10 years? 20? They don’t know.

    Sebelius is getting desperate, is all. Wonder when she’s gonna start jumping up and down telling us we MUST get this potential poison?

    Again, no worries…just her way of trying to get her way!

  201. Linda fm NY–yes, very sad. You’re welcome

  202. twe-I found the video of Obama at the town hall meeting shocking. This is a person with “vaunted speaking skills”???? I think they are trying to hide his records because he was a grade school drop out. The concepts that he was trying to speak on are very simple, yet he gets so confused.

  203. Patriot Dreamer

    twe // October 7, 2009 at 2:14 pm

    OUCH! LOL!

  204. Someone not Obama tried to claim sovereign immunity…court said nope, sovereign immunity from prosecution overturned:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8295716.stm

  205. Linda from NY

    twe: Somebody should have told pp and moo moo about that before they traveled to Denmark in two separate planes!

    Then again, they both belong to the me, myself, and I crowd so it wouldn’t matter to them!

  206. Patriot Dreamer

    SueK, did you already tell us about your meeting (yesterday or the day before) about the Swine Flu virus? Did I miss that post?

  207. Time for a stupid contest. Halloween is coming end of the month. Masks-I think the Obama-Joker mask will be popular.

  208. GBAmerica-My best guess coming from the suburbs of Chicago, that on $100.00 taxpayer money earmarked for the poor. Obama-Jarrett and other slum lying lords-criminals-they skimmed $90.00 the poor were lucky if they received $10.00. Yes, they are that greedy, crazy, corrupt, inept. When this is investigated completely and properly the truth will come out.

  209. Students sing praises of O-care:

  210. Linda from NY

    GBAmerica: Great summary; perfect for CW’s Jarrett File. Thanks for sharing!

  211. Can anyone verify this ????????

    *** Judge Carter says case will go to trial ***

    http://www.oilforimmigration.org/facts/?p=3711

  212. Patriot Dreamer // October 7, 2009 at 2:29 pm

    Sorry, PD, just getting around to it now!

    Here’s what it was: A ‘regional’ meeting to discuss the H1N1 vaccine which is on the way. The speaker was a former colleague whose job is health education.

    She started off praising this vaccine, how safe it was, and the fact that everyone should get it in addition to the seasonal flu shot.

    Not being one to be able to shut it for any length of time, I asked why the vaccine manufacturers were exempt from any long-term complications from this vaccine. After a few ‘aaah’s and ummm’s’ the answer I got was that was because this is a novel strain of flu and a brand new vaccine.

    Duh.

    I then asked about the Thimerosal contained in the batch seasonal flu shots and how it’s reported that the mercury level is 2,000 times the permitted mercury level for adult intake. I was told that Thimerosal levels were safe.

    Wrong.

    Then, the 64,000 question: Would Novartis and Smith Klein Glaxo each be using their individually patented adjuvant, Squalene, in the H1N1 shots, even though Squalene is *not* approved to be added to any vaccine in the U.S?

    The answer was no….no Squalene.

    I asked why, then, have stockpiles of ‘an adjuvant’ been secured ‘just in case they’re needed?’ The speaker was unaware of any stockpiles.

    My next questions were: Why do you state that the vaccine is safe when an adjuvant is being stockpiled that was known to cause Gulf War Syndrome when it was used previously?
    How can you say it’s safe when it was rushed through clinical trials and there wasn’t time to gather any short or long-term data?

    No answer.

    Meeting over.

    Now, I’m in the doghouse for asking very important questions that couldn’t be answered. It’s OK, though, I’m a regular visitor to the doghouse and they know me there.

    Just so you know what your ‘officials’ are saying about this H1N1 and seasonal flu vaccines….

  213. CNN,
    Are the tides turning? Can we expect discovery now?

    If this pans out, perhaps the end to this nightmare is almost over.

  214. Linda from NY

    CNN: Yay! Can we celebrate yet? Please?

  215. jc,

    Thanks for the heads up. I’m sure we’ll hear the real FOX truth. Knowing how Glenn Beck did a strange about face on the FEMA camp debunking a few months back with his Popular Mechanics guy, I won’t look for an honest report on this either. His story on the FEMA camps on the a.m. radio show completely changed by the time the t.v. show aired. Knowing how he researches subjects thoroughly and his subsequent findings are well presented, this one was very suspect. Looked thrown together.

    I’ve done my own research on these proposed facilities. I also question the oddity/timing of HR645, a bill proposed by a Florida legislature immediately after Obama took office for these kinds of facilities. The research has generated more questions for me, so how he could say definitively they don’t exist bothers me. It’s not a conspiracy when facts exist to prove otherwise. And they do exist.

    I’m not saying that was the intent of the facility in Hardin. We may never know the truth about Hardin. This story of a criminal riding into town and the people blindly hand him the reins reminds me of exactly what happened with Obama.

  216. GBAmeria-very apt description of the SLUMLORDS/MAFIA, INC. Obama and Jarrett. On the one hand they are total corrupt crooks, on the other hand it is like Hitler’s high command of murders, thieves, degenerates and perverts. Their treatment of the people who lived in their housing projects is inhumane at best. This corruption is beyond the norm and has been going on for 20 years at least. I wonder if Obama-Jarrett victims have standing?

  217. Linda from NY

    Sue K: You’re my hero-ine! What a brave lady you are! Got them tongue-tied, didn’t you? Three for the good guys! Thanks for all you do to keep us informed!

    Happy Day…Linda

  218. To The South and ALL:

    I just saw this at Orly’s, which I can access from my laptop:

    “Looks like it’s a go with the eligibility trial
    Posted on | October 7, 2009″

    ” I just got an order from judge Carter. He does not say outright that the motion to dismiss, but he says that the dates for trial are final. We might need to ask for the clarification, but from the first glance it looks like a go.”

    I’m going to go ahead and get enthusiastic – WHOOHOO! 🙂

    http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/?p=4727

    Please, Patriots, go give our dear Orly some positive comments, if you have the time! Whether it pans out or not, she truly needs to hear from us and feel very supported at this time.

  219. From Orly’s web-site
    Department of Justice was contacted via phone and e-mail and was asked to stipulate to discovery in Barnett et al v Obama et al

  220. Linda from NY

    twe: @2:52 Creeeeepy! What a face! And those eeeeeevil eyes! YUK!

  221. Just me, if you look at my first post on this story my gut said fraud from the beginning. Just because Jones and Quale jumped all over this story and tried to make it something that it wasn’t does not negate the fact that the whole episode is wierd. This little town was duped by “Captain Michael” and the facts are now bearing that out.

    “Captain Michael” has a laundry list of crimes in his past. Con is his main game. Who knows what his purpose was with the town of Hardin or the prison? We may never know now. Time will tell.

  222. This is good news, but I’m still not comfortable with this trial being set for 2-3 months down the road.

    This is too much time for error and fowl play.

  223. Linda from NY

    Michelle: Send her my poem if you can, please…thanks.

  224. CNN 246: GREAT NEWS! Thank you. Everyone keep praying. Remember today is also the memorial of Our Lady of the Rosary. Keep praying!

  225. Wow!

    Stipulate to discovery. This is huge.

    I wonder if Beck or anyone will report on this now?

  226. Linda from NY

    twe: I did not forget…see post to Michelle earlier!

    Thank you, Our Lady of the Rosary!

  227. SueK // October 7, 2009 at 2:51 pm

    God Bless you for asking questions! These people that are conducting these info sessions probably think everyone they talk to are morons. So glad to see we are awake. Again many thanks!!

  228. PRAISE THE LORD!!!EVERYONE KEEP PRAYING!!DON’T GIVE UP ON THIS !!

  229. Great news!

    God Bless the U. S. Marines!

  230. Dear Mother Mary-Thank you for taking us this far and help us to complete our journey for the truth. Please protect Dr. Orly, all of the other lawyers, their assistants and researchers in their quest to protect the Constitution of the United States of America.
    Mother of the Rising Sun, Immaculate, our Advocate, Helper in moments of affliction, Mother of God and made by Him our Mother, this is how Mary, Undoer of Knots is presented. Above all, She comes as the Queen of Mercy, the one who knows all about us, who has compassion for us and hurries to rescue us, praying for each one of us to Her beloved Jesus.
    Is it possible that the Lord does not answer Her?
    May Mary Undoer of Knots bless you today and forever. Amen!

  231. Wasn’t discovery the endgame for this case? Do we know when discovery can commence?

  232. jc,

    I do remember your post on this.

  233. jc,

    Discovery hasn’t been confirmed, only trial dates. Not sure what that means.

  234. jc,

    Sorry motion to dismiss hasn’t been confirmed, not discovery. Still don’t know what that means.

  235. Civis Naturaliter Natus

    I can’t say about anything else, I just know what Charlton posted…though I surmise he is in communication with Lincoln, becaues of their correspondence published on Orly’s site the other day about the missing page 11

  236. Linda from NY

    Michelle: Your post @ 3:00 PM about the DOJ notification was posted at the beginning of the “Hour of Mercy!” Coincidence? I think not!

    Thanks!

  237. This is fabulous….someone may need to provide some security detail for this honorable judge.

  238. Michelle // October 7, 2009 at 3:00 pm

    From Orly’s web-site
    Department of Justice was contacted via phone and e-mail and was asked to stipulate to discovery in Barnett et al v Obama et al

    Not sure what this means either. But I remember we needed discovery and this case would be won in the discovery stage and a court case would be moot.

  239. Civis Naturaliter Natus

    Linda NY,

    I think it was a gift from the Sacred Heart, and Our Lady Queen of the Rosary!

  240. Linda from NY-just sent Orly your poem with a note that not everyone is able to get thru to her web-site. I hope her site does crash now because it will get overloaded. Sent her loving wishes from all here.

  241. just me~
    just a proud family friend on my source who is to be on The Glenn Beck show today. He has a good head on his shoulders and only knows how to tell the truth. I hope all goes well for him today. He was asked to appear on Alex Jones show last week, but thank goodness it did not pan out. What is happening to Becky Shay is really rotten. I wonder how many days until they come and repo the “company car” .

  242. Linda–I was posting when this was first reported and read about it right about 3 pm, the Hour of Great Mercy. Jesus, I trust in you!

    “Give thanks to the LORD for he is good, for his love endures for ever…I called to the LORD in my distress; he answered and freed me. The LORD is at my side; I do not fear…You are my G_d, I thank you. My G_d, I praise you. Give thanks to the LORD for he is good; for his love endures for ever.” From Psalm 118.

  243. From Post and Email:

    Judge Carter Denies Motion to Dismiss, in Barnett vs. Obama!
    October 7, 2009 by John Charlton

    COURT ORDER FINALIZES SCHEDULE FOR TRIAL!
    by John Charlton

    (Oct. 7, 2009) — Today was published the Court order resulting from the Oct. 5th hearing in Barnett vs. Obama, issued by federal judge, David O. Carter, in the Southern Division of California.

    The order, reads as follows:

    On September 8, 2009, the Court previously set tentative case management dates. The Court now orders those dates be made final.

    Case Management dates are as follows:

    Motion for Summary Judgment Hearing — December 7, 2009, at 8:30 a.m.
    File Motion for Summary Judgment — November 16, 2009
    Opposition to Motion for Summary Judgment — November 26, 2009
    Reply to Motion for Summary Judgment — November 30, 2009
    Final Pretrial Conference — January 11, 2010, at 8:30 a.m.
    Jury Trial — January 26, 2010, at 8:30 a.m.

    The implication of the Court’s order finalizing the dates is obvious: you do not finalize dates unless there will be a trial. And there would not be a trial, unless the Motion to Dismiss requested by the Defense was in whole or in part DENIED

  244. Patriot Dreamer,

    interesting – White Rose post. I remember Glenn Beck saying we may need to go out and purchase an old mimeograph machine – the one that you hand crank – to continue to get the word out. I had to laugh because I remember those machines well. This is when he was saying “you’ll never shut me up.”

  245. just me~ as I understand it the Judge only needs protection until the discovery phase commences. Then we get some facts, and hopefully get to perform a happy dance.

  246. And now, a cool song for no apparent reason! 😉

    I’m in a good mood, after seeing Orly’s announcement!

  247. Patriot Dreamer

    Watch for the govt. lawyers appeal so as to prevent discovery.

  248. Patriot Dreamer

    Prevent or delay, I mean. The longer this thing drags on, the better for them.

  249. From Alan Keyes
    http://www.oilforimmigration.org/facts/?p=3711
    Just in: Judge Confirms Eligibility Trial to Proceed
    Posted on October 7th, 2009 by David-Crockett
    I just received a call from Orly Taitz, my attorney in the case seeking proof of Obama’s eligibility for the Office of President of the United States. Judge Carter has release a statement declaring that the dates he set for the hearing and trial on the eligibility issue are confirmed, and it will move forward as scheduled. Apparently he was not swayed by the Obama lawyer’s arguments.

  250. jc,

    ahhhh…that’s cool! I hope they allow him to speak freely. As freely as the FOX lawyers will allow. I know for legal reasons, media outlets have to be careful with what guests say. One way or the other it’s controlled. I’ll be looking for him on Beck.

  251. Patriot Dreamer

    Do federal judges have protective details provided by the U.S. Marshals?

  252. Linda from NY

    twe: Gives me gooosebumples! Wow! Oh Wow!

  253. jc,

    I think the judge may need to rethink his security detail on THIS case. It isn’t your run-of-the-mill case.

  254. Linda from NY

    CNN: Through the intercession of our Lady, Our Lord has blessed us abundantly! I agree. Praise be Jesus Christ; His Love is Everlasting!

  255. Linda, Michelle, et. al.—
    Just catching up today—saw your posts and
    am happily optimistic that this news is what it
    seems. Thank God, thank Our Lady Queen of
    the Rosary, thank Judge Carter,thank Orly, thank everyone, thanks ad. infinitum….

  256. just me,
    He told me the interview was to be live. I am sure he will only speak the truth. I do wonder what about this story interests Beck. It sure screams con to me. Why would Beck want to talk about a con game?

  257. Linda from NY

    Michelle: Thank You! I hope she likes both the poem and the good wishes you sent from all of us!
    I am sure her heart is jumping for joy right about now…she has worked so hard; it is great to see everyone rejoicing for a change! You are such a blessing as are all here! Thanks CW!

  258. twe-Civis Naturaliter Natus-Linda from NY and all
    Judeo-Christians and fellow Americans.
    Thank you for pointing out all the mystical references. Queen of the Rosary,the Sacred Heart, the Hour of Mercy.
    Thank you God for looking out for WE THE PEOPLE.
    twe-I just moved one of my many rosaries to one of my flags Olde Glory Long May She Wave.
    Semper Fi to Judge Carter.
    This is the best I felt since I first read about this problem on Phil Berg’s site Aug of 08.
    We must keep up the pressure on the corruption ACORN, SEIU etc Obama Jarrett really have given us tons of material.
    If any threats or intimidation are directed at any judge I believe that is a Federal Crime.

  259. Patriot Dreamer

    CW, check this out:

    “The Obama Justice Department’s Secret Blogging Team… Is it Illegal?”
    http://www.publiusforum.com/2009/10/07/the-obama-justice-departments-secret-blogging-team-is-it-illegal/

    Paid Obots courtesy of the Dept. of Justice.

  260. Linda from NY

    Michelle: In our excitement, let us not forget Leo Haffey and his suffering. Let’s ask our Lord in this Hour of Mercy to come to his aid with Legions of Angels and a Good Lawyer!

  261. citizenwells

    Linda.
    I just spoke to someone in the Nashville DA’s office.
    Waiting on a call back.
    The whole world is going to witness this.
    We had better get some straight answers & justice soon.

  262. Tick tock, tick tock. . . the game is in the fourth.
    Tick tock, tick tock. . . mere seconds on the board.
    Tick, it’s time to sweat.
    Tock, it aint over yet.
    Tick tock Barry. . . the Patriots just scored!

  263. Linda from NY

    Patriot Dreamer: I’m confused, but wasn’t the DOJ supposed to protect We the People from injustice instead of being the perpetrator of injustice? Guess it goes with the territory just like passing out “white coats” to Mds at a Health Care rally. I don’t know about you, but it makes me more determined to “fight the good fight!”

  264. I’m posting this before reading the whole thread…

    Can Orly start gathering ALL Obama’s RECORDS
    NOW?

  265. jc,

    I, too, was surprised, that Beck was interested in it. I guess we’ll know in a few hours.

  266. Linda from NY

    Thanks for the update CW! Am praying for your success and Leo’s freedom!

  267. Linda from NY

    Prairie: You Betcha!

  268. Linda, NY

    My husband, a physician, wondered how many of those “docs” in white coats had actually ever been involved in patient care. You know, there’s all kinds of doctors. Things that make you go hmmmmmm…

  269. Linda from NY // October 7, 2009 at 2:57 pm

    No problem, Linda! They know what I do by now but I must say, it’s nice and snuggly here in the doghouse…

    Will post anything else I get. I expect that I’ll get a ‘communique’ from the higher ups regarding my questions. Always a kick! My response always is ‘I ask these questions for the public good.’

    Vague, but it does the job :).

  270. Venice—
    Thanks so much for listing the dates!

  271. Hi Sue K–
    “We” are the public good, too:)
    XOXO

  272. L J // October 7, 2009 at 3:06 pm

    Hi LJ,

    Yeah, pull the wool over everyone’s eyes with a ‘panic situation.’ This is exactly what’s been done with this H1N1 flu campaign.

    People need to be informed before they make any kind of decision about their health, so that was the reason for the tough questions.

    I pride myself in being a member of the non-sheeple gang:).

  273. maddie // October 7, 2009 at 3:51 pm

    Yup, Maddie…CWers are #1 in the ‘public good’ category!

  274. Linda from NY

    Sue K: If you are going to spend so much time in the “doghouse,” one would think you might want to do some re-decorating…insulation, curtains, space-heater, wall-paper, mattress, etc. LOL

    I can tell you we are all proud of you standing up to those macarooons! An educated public is a safe public IMHO. Thanks for keeping us “educated” and safe!

  275. It’s very interesting that last night Obama propagandist Chris Matthews spent a good deal of time last night mocking Orly Taitz and mentioning “Natural Born Citizen”—and then cloaking it in mockery.

    Does he know something?
    Warning! Don’t watch this if your susceptible to vomiting.

  276. To all the Republicans and Democrats who united here in the defense and love of the Constitution and will continue to work until our country is purged of corruption and incompetence.
    Inspired by Tom Delay

  277. Wow, will we really see Justice for OUR Constitution soon? God Bless America.

  278. jc,

    had a random thought…doesn’t this Hardin facility remind you of Murtha’s airport and the “bridge to nowhere?”

    What is really strange to me is this facility, even at blueprint stage, didn’t meet any specs for a prison facility, and they built it anyway.

  279. Ace~ perhaps we should email Mr. Matthews and give him an update. I am sure he would like to set the record straight.

  280. just me~
    no. I think they paid for it locally with bonds and the bonds are coming due. I will have to check and see if any Federal matching funds etc… was involved.

  281. Ace-Obviously Matthews is reading the wrong section of the Constitution. He needs to go back and read eligibility requirements for President of the United States NBC , not citizenship. Orly correct, he’s wrong. He needs to retract and apologize. I wonder what they will say after today’s news.

  282. http://axj.puntoforo.com/viewtopic.php?t=2609&sid=300f4df5e79c74bb16e3acd5e7ec430c

    This is not an unbiased opinion but worthwhile nonetheless.

  283. Linda from NY // October 7, 2009 at 3:54 pm

    Linda, I bring in items as I go along. Better than trying to do it all at once. It’s starting to get a nice home-y feel to it.

    I’m in the most lie-beral, moonbat state in the nation and sometimes standing up gets you in hot water, but I’m past the point (and age) of really giving a flying fig.

    I’ll keep asking until I get some concrete answers. The buzzards won’t get me!

  284. Thanks for reminding me of the most important thing, Maddie – thanks to God!!

    Dearest Loving Light, thank you for shining Your light on Judge David O. Carter’s path. He has now, hopefully, taken on the mantel of the Biblical David, against the Creepy Corporate Cabal Goliath! I give You all the honor and all the glory, and ask all blessings for any who had a part in bringing justice back to America!!

    Venice, appreciate your posting those dates – this is the most important story of the year, so far!

  285. SueK—forgot to thank you for the “Doghouse”
    vaccine updates—facinating!!!!

  286. Also investigate WHY PELOSI signed 2 docs of eligibilty signed by her. One with the legal verbage sent to Hawaii the other 49 legal verbage omitted?

    http://www.riseupforamerica.com scroll down and see
    Would this be a cover up?????

  287. Alex—
    In Jesus name we pray….Amen

  288. SueK // October 7, 2009 at 3:52 pm
    Same here! Trust and verify!! Lived through the swine flu debacle, (didn’t take that one either.)
    Didn’t get sick that I remember but if I did was an insignificant event.

  289. Patriot Dreamer

    OK, SueK, here’s another one for ya:

    Why are we bombing the moon?

    LCROSS Lunar Impact
    7:31 a.m. EDT/4:31 a.m. PDT
    Friday Oct. 9

    A live NASA TV Broadcast is planned for the LCROSS impacts starting at 6:15 a.m. EDT/3:15 a.m. PDT, Oct. 9, on NASA TV and http://www.nasa.gov/ntv.

    The 1.5 hour broadcast includes:
    Live footage from spacecraft camera Real-time telemetry based animation Views of LCROSS Mission and Science Operations Broadcast commentary with expert guests Prepared video segments Views of the public impact viewing event at NASA Ames Possible live footage from the University of Hawaii, 88-inch telescope on Mauna Kea. The live LCROSS Post-Impact News Conference will be 10 a.m. EDT/7 a.m. PDT on NASA TV and http://www.nasa.gov/ntv.

    http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/LCROSS/main/index.html

  290. ALL an update from Orly
    Laconic Response from AUSA Roger West
    Wednesday, October 7, 2009 12:03 PM From: This sender is DomainKeys verified “Charles Lincoln” View contact details To: “Dr. Orly Taitz” RE: Dr. Taitz seeks stipulation re: Discovery. Mittwoch, den 7. Oktober 2009, 11:31:18 Uhr
    Von: “West, Roger (USACAC)” Karte anzeigen
    An: Charles Lincoln
    ——————————————————————————–
    Nuts.
    Paypal
    Posted on | September 20, 2009 | 73 Comments
    Category: Uncategorized
    You can see the response from Roger West, lead attorney for Obama
    Posted on | October 7, 2009 | No Comments
    Flag this message
    Laconic Response from AUSA Roger West
    Wednesday, October 7, 2009 12:03 PM From: This sender is DomainKeys verified “Charles Lincoln” View contact details To: “Dr. Orly Taitz” RE: Dr. Taitz seeks stipulation re: Discovery. Mittwoch, den 7. Oktober 2009, 11:31:18 Uhr
    Von: “West, Roger (USACAC)” Karte anzeigen
    An: Charles Lincoln

    ——————————————————————————–
    Nuts.
    From: Charles Lincoln [mailto:charles.lincoln@rocketmail.com]
    Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 11:11 AM
    To: Dejute, David (USACAC); West, Roger (USACAC)
    Subject: Dr. Taitz seeks stipulation re: Discovery.
    Dear Messers DeJute & West:
    Dr. Taitz has asked me to ask you whether you are willing to stipulate that, now that the Scheduling Order has been made final, rather than moot, that it is now time for us to begin discovery. We need to start sending out notices of deposition duces tecum to parties and subpoenas duces tecum to non-parties. The Judge specifically said that the Scheduling order would only be important if the case were going to go forward, and he seems to have spoken on this point.
    Charles E. Lincoln, Research Associate & Law Clerk for Dr. Taitz, Esq., Attorney for the Plaintiffs.
    Deo Vindice
    “May the Lord God be with you,
    and with thy spirit!”
    My assistant, Mr. Lincoln has contacted Roger West, assistant US attorney, lead attorney representing the defendants, asking to stipulate to discovery in light of today’s order by Judge Carter. You can see his polite and constructive response “Nuts”. I wonder, if I wasn’t a woman, if I was a part of good old boys club, would there be a more appropriate response

  291. Patriot Dreamer // October 7, 2009 at 4:05 pm

    I know you addressed this to SueK, but if you don’t mind, I like to take a stab at it.

    Need to name a landmark for OBunion someplace where he’s not failing!

  292. Jacqlyn Smith

    I am looking into filing one of jbjd’s complaints in Nevada….we need to get Pelosi and other complicit Dems behind bars….please do your part to file complaints in your state as well!!! Go Patriots!

  293. Interesting comment from The Right Side of Life:

    “ch says:
    October 7, 2009 at 1:04 am

    October 13, 1917, The Mother of Christ appeared at Fatima and warned of communism, the “errors that would spread from Russia.”

    Pray the Rosary and sacrifice….to protect America from communism.”

    http://www.therightsideoflife.com/?p=7428#respond

    Coincidentally, I was at a museum with my husband yesterday, and we saw a lot of pictures, statues, tempura panels, and carvings of Mary and Jesus. I mentioned Fatima to my husband – I remembered that Mary had supposedly come across, forgive me for saying this, a little harshly at Fatima. But she was, no doubt, just worried about our dear world falling to such a one as Obama, to such a philosophy as communism, which doesn’t work.

    I also saw very large portraits of George Washington and Andrew Jackson. I stood there and cried quietly, begging them in my mind to help us in our time of need.

    I directly attribute what happened today to that prayer (just kidding ;-)).

  294. Praise The Lord, The Virgin Mary, Miss Orly, Judge Carter, Alan Keyes, Citizen Wells and all you commenters who have kept the ball rolling against all odds. GOODNESS ,HONESTY,AND THE CONSTITUTION WILL PREVAIL.

  295. Here’s the latest from the Post and Email. I will return with the pertinent part of the docket from Orly’s website.

    Judge Carter Denies Motion to Dismiss, in Barnett vs. Obama!

    October 7, 2009 by John Charlton
    COURT ORDER FINALIZES SCHEDULE FOR TRIAL!

    by John Charlton

    (Oct. 7, 2009) — Today was published the Court order resulting from the Oct. 5th hearing in Barnett vs. Obama, issued by federal judge, David O. Carter, in the Southern Division of California.

    The order, reads as follows:

    On September 8, 2009, the Court previously set tentative case management dates. The Court now orders those dates be made final.

    Case Management dates are as follows:

    Motion for Summary Judgment Hearing — December 7, 2009, at 8:30 a.m.
    File Motion for Summary Judgment — November 16, 2009
    Opposition to Motion for Summary Judgment — November 26, 2009
    Reply to Motion for Summary Judgment — November 30, 2009
    Final Pretrial Conference — January 11, 2010, at 8:30 a.m.
    Jury Trial — January 26, 2010, at 8:30 a.m.

    The implication of the Court’s order finalizing the dates is obvious: you do not finalize dates unless there will be a trial. And there would not be a trial, unless the Motion to Dismiss requested by the Defense was in whole or in part DENIED!

  296. Here is part of the docket from Orly’s site at orlytaitzesq.com

    The following transaction was entered on 10/7/2009 at 9:25 AM PDT and filed on 10/5/2009
    Case Name: Captain Pamela Barnett, et al v. Barack Hussein Obama, et al
    Case Number: 8:09-cv-82
    Filer:
    Document Number: 81

    Docket Text:
    MINUTES OF taking under advisement [56] Motion to Dismiss Case ; Motion Hearing held before Judge David O. Carter:; Scheduling Conference held before Judge David O. Carter. Case Management dates are as follows: Motion for Summary Judgment Hearing December 7, 2009, at 8:30 a.m. File Motion for Summary Judgment November 16, 2009 Opposition to Motion for Summary Judgment November 26, 2009 Reply to Motion for Summary Judgment November 30, 2009 Final Pretrial Conference January 11, 2010, at 8:30 a.m. Jury Trial January 26, 2010, at 8:30 a.m. Court Reporter: Debbie Gale. (ade

  297. Patriot Dreamer // October 7, 2009 at 4:05 pm

    Yup, PD, I’ve been watching this!

    The Moon will be bombed looking for evidence of frozen water from ancient comet impacts near the Moon’s polar regions.

    …and this would prove what, exactly? I still can’t get a feel for the science behind this.

  298. RE: response by AUSA Roger West to Orly
    Mr. West-you are no Brigadier General Anthony C. McAuliffe he kept his oath the preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States of America. So far you are no General Tony McAuliffe.
    Anthony C. McAuliffe
    July 2, 1898(1898-07-02) – August 11, 1975 (aged 77)
    Then-Brigadier General Anthony C. McAuliffe during World War II
    Place of birth Washington, D.C.
    Resting place Arlington National Cemetery
    Allegiance United States of America
    Service/branch United States Army
    Years of service 1918 – 1956
    Rank General
    Commands held U.S. Army Europe
    Seventh Army
    Battles/wars World War II
    Awards Distinguished Service Cross
    Army Distinguished Service Medal
    Silver Star
    Legion of Merit
    Bronze Star
    General Anthony Clement McAuliffe (July 2, 1898 – August 11, 1975) was the United States Army general who commanded the defending 101st Airborne troops during the Battle of Bastogne, Belgium, during the Battle of the Bulge in World War II. He is famous for his single-word reply to a German surrender ultimatum: “Nuts!”

  299. Linda from NY // October 7, 2009 at 1:22 pm

    twe: Arizona Sheriff’s Powers. Anytime someone steps up to the plate, they are squashed like a bug! If I were the Sheriff, I would march right in the WH and arrest the man who is pretending to be our president! What gall! Thanks for sharing!

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Drum roll needed here……………..
    >
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    >
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    HE DOESN’T HAVE STANDING!!!

  300. Hehehe…We better start watching the borders and make sure Barry doesn’t try to escape justice.

    If everything is true about Barry’s court dates, when does discovery begin, and how long should it take to get a copy of his birth certificate if he has one?

  301. kittycat // October 7, 2009 at 4:24 pm

    Hey Kitty,

    Hope your holidays went well.

    Ya, all kinds of crap in vaccines-good links-that’s why I always ask people if they really know what’s in that syringe they’re about to sick in your arm??

  302. Live Oak!! That sounds like great news.

    Who knows? Maybe Carter was purposely speaking as he did to throw the dogs off?

  303. The LORD Is My Shepherd

    The LORD is my shepherd; I shall not want.
    He maketh me to lie down in green pastures:

    he leadeth me beside the still waters.
    He restoreth my soul:

    he leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for his name’s sake.
    Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death,

    I will fear no evil: for thou art with me;
    thy rod and thy staff they comfort me.
    Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies:

    thou anointest my head with oil;
    my cup runneth over.
    Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life:

    and I will dwell in the house of the LORD for ever

  304. Well well well. It looks like Carter proved me WRONG!

    Way to go Carter. You do have some man marbles after all!

  305. Now that it appears we are on for Trial with the noted pre-trial conferences, watch for:

    – Grant of Discovery by Judge Carter, immediately followed by:

    – Appeal to higher court by DOJ slime-bucket attorneys, and a mad dash to even higher courts if they cannot get what obama wants them to get. And if God permits this case to continue forward with discovery:

    – Watch for a major manufactured crisis to give soetoro the muscle to declare martial law and suspend all daily activities of government and courts.

    One thing you MUST remember, if this case goes to trial soetoro, his band of thugs, and all of his congressional and administration co-consiprators are finished. They cannot allow this case to materialize. And you can bet that the 2010 elections are in peril as well.

    Eyes open, stay strong and focused. WE must prevail.

  306. http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=112206

    Eligibility continues to gain traction……..

  307. Sandy,
    I think you’re right…also I feel that he didn’t want to show partiality to any side. I’ve been praying so long and hard on this that God would open Judge Carter’s eyes and his heart. Now I can’t believe it!! lol…

  308. Good job Michelle!

    I was wondering what that response meant.

    O’s lawyers are admitting they are surrounded!

  309. CA Patriot~ the “crisis” is already is place.

    The current WHO phase of pandemic alert is 6.

  310. Patriot Dreamer

    L J // October 7, 2009 at 4:11 pm

    Good one! LOL!

  311. Anybody,

    From what I can see there is still no official statement for motion to dismiss, but there is a lot of inference.

  312. I’m hoping this means what is being accepted here. Yet, others are telling us that there is no direct order to dismiss – only the minutes of what occurred at last hearing. Dunno.

  313. Alex,

    And today is the Feast of the Holy Rosary – which evolved from the Battle of Lepanto where the faithful prayed the rosary and a small band of warriors defeated the Muslim Turks from invading. A real miracle. Let us hope. And … another thing to note – the hearing held on Sept. 8 was the official Church feast day of the birth of the Virgin Mary. May Our Lady of America intercede for us.

  314. Update from Orly
    Actual order from judge Carter:my case Barnett et al v Obama et al is going to trial, dates are final, January 26 is the date for the jury trial

  315. Michelle // October 7, 2009 at 4:50 pm

    Tap Dancing on my Chair!

  316. Hi, Sue:

    Thanks. We still have one more feast day left, which is at sundown on Sat.

    Wow, this is great to hear about Judge Carter.

  317. I found my notes about birth certificate cases. Someone much brighter than I blogged this ( i just do not know who is was),
    “Another piece of information that many fail to realize is that in birth certificate cases, all that in needed is for the case to be heard. This cases will be over in the ‘Discovery’ phase. Before a trial starts, both sides are required by the court to put all their cards on the table to avoid ‘trial by ambush’. The judge orders all evidence to be presented by both sides. Since this case is about discovering documents that are hidden, the case will be decided by court-ordered presentation of all relevant records. Lawyers in birth certificate cases don’t need to win a trial; they only need to get a trial.”

    If we get discovery, Game, set, match.

  318. Are we absolutely 100% sure that is the correct info about Orly? I just want to make sure.

    thanks

  319. go go go orly

  320. http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/?p=4737

    Here are the actual minutes of the meeting.

  321. Jacqlyn Smith

    #

    jc // October 7, 2009 at 3:04 pm

    Wow!

    Stipulate to discovery. This is huge.

    I wonder if Beck or anyone will report on this now?
    *******************************************

    I sent the entire Fox news network a Media Alert….we shall see!!!

  322. Looking at the minutes:

    “Motion taken under submission”. That is not a declarative statement.

    However given Dr. Keyes’ statement that the judge was not persuaded, it may be that only partial motion to dismiss has been granted. That would be enough to proceed with possible partial discovery. I don’t know what the implications of that would be, if true.

  323. Does anyone have a link to the actual docket of Orly’s case?

  324. http://thepostnemail.wordpress.com/2009/10/07/judge-carter-denies-motion-to-dismiss-in-barnett-vs-obama/

    However…….

    Don says: Obama and the judge will both have an opportunity to permanently dispose of the case via summary judgement and I’ve no doubt that the judge is already predisposed to take exactly that course. On appeal, the losing side will have to overcome his judicial interpretations of the applicable law and judicial precedents. December 7th….mark your calendar. That’s when it all goes away.

  325. Re: the Usurpation which started the Day of Inauguration which put the country in Limbo, which Limbo are we in today, same one or different?
    More good news IMHO many other cases are pending or in process.

  326. JS- I sent the entire Fox news network a Media Alert….we shall see!!!
    *******************

    You rock!

  327. Just looking at the dateline…

    Motion for Summary Judgment Hearing — December 7, 2009, at 8:30 a.m.

    Pearl Harbor Day December 7th…and the vigil that night is for the Solemnity of the Immaculate Conception the next day. Hmmmm….just sayin’

  328. I sent the information to the reporter from The Orange County Register who has actually been at the courthouse covering the case. He has written some pretty fair stories.

    If it’s true, he will most likely post an article ASAP.

    I’ll keep everyone posted.

  329. UpstateWarrior,

    Delay has the right answer to the right question.

    Although he is also a CIVICs flunky like the rest of the people in Washington.

  330. The order, reads as follows: Case Management dates are as follows:

    Motion for Summary Judgment Hearing — December 7, 2009, at 8:30 a.m.
    File Motion for Summary Judgment — November 16, 2009
    Opposition to Motion for Summary Judgment — November 26, 2009
    Reply to Motion for Summary Judgment — November 30, 2009
    Final Pretrial Conference — January 11, 2010, at 8:30 a.m.
    Jury Trial — January 26, 2010, at 8:30 a.m.

  331. Carter has done what some of us had begun to think he wasn’t going to do. I believe that his convictions regarding our Constitution are stronger than the lies,and threats of Soetoro, and his GOON squad. Well done Judge Carter I salute you sir. Now all we need is the continuity of this attitude in the coming days, and months. If Soetoro is allowed to take his case to a higher court, it will probably be the appropriate Apellate Court. This is where we will really be holding our breath.

    JeffM- Which appeals court would this case be venued to if Soetoro is successful in doing this?

  332. Right after I posted my last message, the server for the Orange County Register has been overwhelmed.

    Perhaps it is because they were the only newspaper covering the case? Here’s the link:

    http://www.ocregister.com

  333. Linda from NY

    This is encouraging…perhaps we can get some information about Minnesota through their investigation…hope so.

    ACORN Documents from the Federal Election Commission

    http://www.judicialwatch.org/story/2009/aug/acorn-documents-federal-election-commission

  334. Who’s Behind The Death Threats?

    http://www.hillaryis44.org/2009/10/07/the-obama-death-threat-plots-the-who-and-why-behind-them/

    Another democrat blog sees through the phoniness.

  335. Orange County write-up on Judge Carter (with picture):

    http://www.ocregister.com/ocregister/news/atoz/article_1031489.php

  336. http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D9B6COT00&show_article=1

    Nothing against Hollywood, they make great movies, but this is scraping the bottom of the barrel. Maybe the tide is finally turning.

  337. JJ,
    When does discovery begin? That’s what is important. Does discovery begin before or after December 7th. ( Pearl Harbor day., huh)

    Nick was on The Glenn Beck show. He did great. Too bad for the snowstorm, he had to do his report by phone.

  338. From Orlys site
    Laconic Response from AUSA Roger West

    Wednesday, October 7, 2009 12:03 PM From: This sender is DomainKeys verified “Charles Lincoln” View contact details To: “Dr. Orly Taitz” RE: Dr. Taitz seeks stipulation re: Discovery. Mittwoch, den 7. Oktober 2009, 11:31:18 Uhr
    Von: “West, Roger (USACAC)” Karte anzeigen
    An: Charles Lincoln
    Nuts.

    From: Charles Lincoln [mailto:charles.lincoln@rocketmail.com]
    Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 11:11 AM
    To: Dejute, David (USACAC); West, Roger (USACAC)
    Subject: Dr. Taitz seeks stipulation re: Discovery.

    Dear Messers DeJute & West:

    Dr. Taitz has asked me to ask you whether you are willing to stipulate that, now that the Scheduling Order has been made final, rather than moot, that it is now time for us to begin discovery. We need to start sending out notices of deposition duces tecum to parties and subpoenas duces tecum to non-parties. The Judge specifically said that the Scheduling order would only be important if the case were going to go forward, and he seems to have spoken on this point.

    Charles E. Lincoln, Research Associate & Law Clerk for Dr. Taitz, Esq., Attorney for the Plaintiffs.

    Deo Vindice

    “May the Lord God be with you,

    and with thy spirit!”

    My assistant, Mr. Lincoln has contacted Roger West, assistant US attorney, lead attorney representing the defendants, asking to stipulate to discovery in light of today’s order by Judge Carter. You can see his polite and constructive response “Nuts”. I wonder, if I wasn’t a woman, if I was a part of good old boys club, would there be a more appropriate response.

  339. Anyone know why the header information of the “Nuts” response is in German?

  340. Jacqlyn Smith Said “Go Patriots” Thanx JS. I think Denver will be tough tonight but The Pat’s will prevail.

  341. Linda from NY

    twe: Thank you for the background information on Judge Carter a.k.a. “King David.” He’s a rather fascinating person IMHO.

    Ladyhawke: Thank you for the link to the newspaper, however, I could not find an article about today’s ruling…can you or anyone help me please? Thanks!

  342. I meant to say Sunday, not sure where “tonight came from…

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  344. Linda from NY

    venice: Oh, brother! He’s all for the “catchy” slogan to sell his He**care package. Maybe, he could hire those Mds he invited to the WH to do a “song and dance.” His school video was so successful he’s gonna try it again I guess. Tell me true…do you buy toothpaste because a celebrity uses it? Since when are celebrities Health Care experts? Oh yes, it’s the fitness videos, beauty secrets, and weight-loss advice…gee, how could I have missed that connection?

  345. Linda from NY

    Is far as i know, there is no article yet. I sent the latest info to the reporter covering this (Martin Wisckol) in the hope he would verify the information.

  346. Linda from NY

    twe: Interesting observation about the vigil…just as powerful as the “day of” the Immaculate Conception on the 8th. The first hearing was on September 8th; the second on the 5th, but not determined until the 7th of October, her Feast Day. Our Lady sure does seem to have her hand in all of this…she promised us we would escape communism if we came back to God. She is also “Our Lady of the Americas.”

  347. Linda from NY

    Ladyhawke: Thanks…will wait to hear from you!

  348. venice,

    looks like you’re being drowned out tonight by the crowd. Last night you had the floor! …i smile…

    I’m waiting for something more definitive. This has been such a roller coaster ride for everyone.

  349. Linda from NY

    Truth Now: Thanks for the link to Dr. Keyes website. Apparently, Dr. Keyes does not think the judge was “swayed by O’s lawyers’ arguments.”

    No one, as yet, has said the Motion to Dismiss was denied, but it would appear pp’s lawyers did not prevail.

  350. jc,

    your guy was GREAT! Well spoken, and cute, too…you know in the media that’s a big plus. I know you and your family had to have been excited for his moment of fame on FOX.

    I was confused by exactly what Glenn Beck was “debunking.” I never heard anyone connect that facility to H1N1 scare. I heard more concerns along the lines of the federalization of our law enforcement.

  351. JustMe,

    In the face of this incredible victory, it’s hard to consider the alternative. It’s understandable but we have to be prepared.

    Either way, progress is being made every day.

  352. jc // October 7, 2009 at 5:36 pm

    this may help…
    cq // October 7, 2009 at 5:47 pm

  353. Jacqlyn Smith

    #

    JeffM // October 7, 2009 at 4:36 pm

    Well well well. It looks like Carter proved me WRONG!

    Way to go Carter. You do have some man marbles after all!
    *******************************************

    JeffM….Why are Berg followers reporting that Orly jumped the gun and this is not a decision from the Judge and that the decision to motion to dismiss has not been made final yet????

  354. Sue K,

    re: the moon

    I heard water was discovered on previous moon trips long ago. However, the USA , for whatever reason didn’t want to disclose this. There is speculation this is where the “conspiracy” of the photos of the moon landing were done in Hollywood originated. Now that India has discovered water on the moon, we are coming “out” and doing what we’re doing. Supposedly Buzz Aldrin will be talking about this soon, most likely in a book…

    One of my family members’ father is one of the ones that walked on the moon…as you might have guessed, his father never talked about any of this.

  355. @ Jacqlyn Smith 4:36

    I just copied and pasted this from Dr. Taitz’ blog.. It just makes that statement about Dr. Taitz “jumping the gun” an out and out lie… nothing less…Here’s the official word:

    http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/?p=4737

    RichardL

  356. cq and Ladyhawke: the response “Nuts” is not a good thing. That’s the response General Anthony McAuliffe sent the German Commander when asked to surrender at the Bastogne–

    “Between this stoic reply, Patton’s troops from the south, and a change in the weather that allowed air reinforcement the following day, the 101st was able to hold Bastogne. Their victory resulted in the first full-Division Presidential Distinguished Unit Citation.

    McAuliffe’s actions at Bastogne helped assure the final defeat of the Germans. Gen. McAuliffe continued to serve on active duty, including assignments as Head of the Army Chemical Corps, Commander, 7th Army, and Commander-In-Chief of the U.S. Army, Europe, until his 1956 retirement. He died in Washington, D.C. in 1975 and is buried at Arlington National Cemetery.” (the part in quotes is from http://www.military.com/Content/MoreContent?file=ML_mcauliffe_bkp)

  357. Donofrio is VERY invested in wanting his area of interest (needing two American parents to be NBC) to be the important one. This makes him quite biased as to the birth place issue, whether he intends it to or not. Don’t get me wrong, I’m a Donofrio fan, but sometimes he works against the cause (the cause being getting Obama out as ineligible).
    Is there a name for those of us who are both birthers and duelers?
    Double-whammiers?
    Twofers?

  358. Linda fm NY: You’re welcome.

  359. Methinks that the judge realized that if he granted the motion and later found that barry is not even a US citizen, what a burden to carry to the grave!!

  360. Michelle 647–Thanks. Good ‘toons! 😉

  361. I’ve read what Leo D wrote, and I can understand what he’s saying. I think he’s just suspicious right now and should be. But things are topsy-turvy right now, so maybe Orly’s case will work if she holds herself together and does it right. Why didn’t the DOJ bring up the case that Leo is talking about? Isn’t that strange, or maybe they’re just idiots, I don’t know?

  362. RIchardL@ 6:49 pm

    I can never get onto Orly’s site do to continual virus scares.

    Does she actually post the judge’s “Order,” people are saying she received today?

  363. Orly’s site is overloaded or is being hacked again. I got on but tried a few more times to click on links there and finally got the obot site warning. After that, I couldn’t get on any more.

  364. Linda from NY

    Ladyhawke: Leo’s concerns may be on the mark. He sees this as maybe, a way to discredit any future cases so he is hoping there is a “motion to dismiss.” It appears he is unsure exactly what has happened as are we. However, Judge Carter did mention Quo Warranto in his questioning of Dr. Taitz and something having to do with the 9th Circuit, but we do not know what reply came from Dr. Taitz. From what I have read about Judge Carter, he is no fool. If pp’s lawyers did not make a good argument for their Motion to Dismiss, then he could not grant it and as Leo says it is their fault; they “missed the mark.” Sometimes, cases are won and lost on technicalities. Guess we will just have to wait until the next court date to see how this is all going to “play out.” Thanks for the link to Leo’s sight and “insight.”

  365. Everyone,

    The scheduling ‘order’ issued in the case of Barnett v. Obama is strictly clerical and perfunctory in nature, notwithstanding any representations to the contrary made by anyone associated with Plaintiffs. Please, notice, this ‘order’ is not even signed by J. Carter.
    Barnett v. Obama Minute Order

  366. Linda from NY

    Michelle: Great toons…thanks.

  367. @Ladyhawke 6:58

    I’ll cut and paste the blog entry directly from her site.. with her permission:

    Actual order from judge Carter:my case Barnett et al v Obama et al is going to trial, dates are final, January 26 is the date for the jury trial

    Posted on | October 7, 2009 | No Comments

    UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT

    CENTRAL DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA

    CIVIL MINUTES – GENERAL

    CV-90 (12/02)

    CIVIL MINUTES – GENERAL Page 1 of 1

    Case No. SACV09-0082 DOC (ANx) Date October 5, 2009

    Title CAPTAIN PAMELA BARNETT, ET AL. V. BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA, ET AL.

    Present: The

    Honorable

    David O. Carter, U.S. District Judge

    Kristee Hopkins Debbie Gale N/A

    Deputy Clerk Court Reporter / Recorder Tape No.

    Attorneys Present for Plaintiffs: Attorneys Present for Defendants:

    Orly Taitz

    Gary Kreep

    David DeJute, AUSA

    Roger West, AUSA

    Proceedings: 1. MOTION BY DEFENDANTS TO DISMISS CASE

    2. SCHEDULING CONFERENCE

    Cause called and counsel state their appearances. Argument by counsel. Motion taken

    under submission.

    On September 8, 2009, the Court previously set tentative case management dates. The

    Court now orders those dates be made final.

    Case Management dates are as follows:

    Motion for Summary Judgment Hearing December 7, 2009, at 8:30 a.m.

    File Motion for Summary Judgment November 16, 2009

    Opposition to Motion for Summary Judgment November 26, 2009

    Reply to Motion for Summary Judgment November 30, 2009

    Final Pretrial Conference January 11, 2010, at 8:30 a.m.

    Jury Trial January 26, 2010, at 8:30 a.m.

    3

    : 21

    01

    Initials of Preparer kh

    Case 8:09-cv-00082-DOC-AN Document 81 Filed 10/05/2009 Page 1 of 1

  368. JustMe // October 7, 2009 at 6:46 pm

    Hi JustMe,

    I don’t understand the silence-you would think that this discovery would’ve gone viral in minutes.

    I had the pleasure of meeting the late Gordon Cooper back in 1998. He was very tight-lipped about NASA missions, and even more tight-lipped when someone asked him if he ever saw a UFO while in space (that was reported to be true). Unfortunately, that zipped lip made him a less than desirable speaker and he didn’t give the audience too much info about anything.

    I’m sure there’s a lot more going on in space than little news snippets that are released to the public.

    Cool about an astronaut in your family! I don’t expect he’d say much about water, or anything else. The gubmint is overly secretive, and it’s getting worse.

    Let’s see how this Moon bombing works…

  369. jbjd, please let Orly know if you can .
    Thanks, I can not post on her site

  370. Twe @ 6:49

    Very interesting information!

    I still cannot think of a reason the header information would be in German. Ws it sent that way from a U.S. attorney or is Mr. Lincoln’s email set up to receive it that way?

  371. Linda from NY

    jbjd: Thanks so much for chiming in…we were all wondering how we should be interpreting what we are hearing and seeing. We are trying hard not to get excited but alas, we did…forgive us, we wanted so much to hear some “good news.”

  372. Ladyhawke: I don’t know! Your guess is as good as mine. I just didn’t like it when I saw “Nuts.”

    jbjd: are these types of orders normally signed?

  373. SueK & justme: I, too, have one–by marriage and by marriage, via the husband of one of my aunts…this one is still in, or retired not too long ago! I’ve never met him.

  374. Sue K,

    Yeah, he didn’t know much at all about any of the missions or the outcome. A funny story to share, he was roaming around something akin to an “antique mall” and found a copy of an old Life magazine featuring his family. He said he learned more from that than he ever knew….interesting, huh?!

  375. twe,

    that’s cool. Call him up! Get the scoop! Maybe HE’ll talk.

  376. cq,

    I have a good faith belief, she and her fellow legal eagles are completely aware that this federal court scheduling ‘order’ is clerical in nature and bears no indication whatsoever to the court’s position on the substantive case.

  377. Linda from NY

    jbjd: Why would they “set” dates for future consideration/discussion at one hearing and “set” new dates at a second hearing and make them “permanent?” And, if Judge Carter allegedly made a decision, why wouldn’t he sign it? Are you saying no decision was made at all?

  378. Hi JustMe and twe,

    Celebrities in our midst!

    To read things about your family and fill in the gaps must’ve been a hoot!

    Yeah, twe…now’s the time to ‘get acquainted!’

    Just trying to not get overly excited with Orly’s news today-there’s a long way to go, and we know that his attorneys will try everything they know to prevent discovery.

    Still praying.

  379. Linda from NY,

    A scheduling ‘order’ is a clerical issue. Look it up. I only posted the actual order because I am sick and tired of people believing the ‘hype’ and then getting all upset when their ‘savior’ does not deliver.

  380. Leo D. appears to be incomplete in his statements in that Orly’s case is not a quo warranto. Obama was served before he became President.

  381. Linda from NY

    jbjd: Thanks.

  382. While I agree with jbjd that the entry was only clerical — and no decision is made by it — Judge Carter knows the atmosphere — and his court knows the atmosphere — of the scheduling of a trial date. He has sent a signal to the Defense that there is something WRONG with their Motion to Dismiss.

    I’m only going on instinct to venture that what is WRONG is this —

    Orly’s lawsuit is ‘Candidate’ Keyes v ‘Candidate’ Obama.

    The question that ought to be asked is this: ‘Why is the Department of Justice representing ‘Candidate’ Obama?’ In other words, why is it the Department of Justice moving to dismiss this case?

    Their entire Motion to Dismiss was based upon the premise that Obama is the sitting President, and only Congress can act.

    I believe that Judge Carter has taken note of the fact this the Department of Justice entire motion is ‘out of order!’

    This is only a guess, but we’ll see! It will certainly give Orly good grounds to appeal, arguing that the Department of Justice did not BELONG before Judge Carter.

  383. twe
    i had previous problems getting on orly’s site . I copied her address below. I hope it helps.
    Its despicable that her site constantly gets hacked. The problem with people they do not like when you disagree with the dicator so they have to start harming you. Once we get the USURPER out of office the world will be a better place.

    GO ORLY!!!!!
    http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/

  384. There is no absolute right to a stay of discovery, even where a case dispositive motion has been filed. Rather, the grant of such a request is within the discretion of the trial court.

    Hence, even though the Motion to Dismiss is in limbo, Judge Carter CAN PROCEED WITH DISCOVERY!!!

  385. Re my above comment, this way, appeal to stay discovery is MUCH MUCH MUCH more difficult for Team Obama than appealing denial of the Motion to Dismiss.

    Pretty nifty by Judge carter!

  386. Ted // October 7, 2009 at 7:39 pm

    Good info, Ted-thank you!

  387. I have been reading this site for a while and I am lost as to why leo was arrested. Can someone explain what happened with out causing harm to Leo.

  388. Here was Orly’s argument when questioned about the appropriate court for quo warranto on October 5th…

    Judge Carter questioned on what basis his court could issue a quo warrento proceeding, when the D.C. court had jurisdiction over this kind of proceeding. Dr. Orly Taitz responded by citing precedents in the 9th Circuit, that allowed quo warrento proceedings to be held in California, rather than in Washington, D.C., in account of the great distance to the other side of the continent.

  389. FYI,

    The date on the schedule ‘order’ is October 5, 2009. Understand that, when J. Carter had not dismissed the case as of close of the appearance on Monday morning, by definition, this ‘active’ case now needed to be entered into the case management system.

    As I understand, J. Carter announced he would rule after reviewing arguments presented in court on Monday.

  390. Should be, J. Carter said he would rule on Defendants’ Motion to Dismiss (after reviewing…).

  391. Bob // October 7, 2009 at 7:34 pm

    Hi Bob,

    I’ve been wondering all along why Barky’s lawyers aren’t private lawyers arguing this case-he has no business using government attorneys since he was not yet ‘installed’ as POTUS. After all, the lawyers he’s been using to heep his records sealed are private, if I’m not mistaken.

    Just another illegal maneuver by the usurper; unfortunately, we’ve gotten very used to that.

  392. Just Me and SueK–mine is not a moon guy! He’s just a regular ‘naut! He doesn’t even know I exist, I believe as I am very low on the totem pole! Remember I said–by marriage and by marriage. If his daughter is any indication, they are nice but on the more liberal side of things. And no, I’ve never met his daughter…she is a pol. Not going to make the connection at this juncture…just saying. ;+o

  393. Emergency Ex-Parte Motion for Relief From Stay of Discovery.

    http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/?p=4741

  394. twe // October 7, 2009 at 7:47 pm

    Understood, twe, but you may cross paths at some point, which would be a kick!

  395. citizenwells

    ***** From Wells *****
    When do you want the detailed update on Leo Haffey?

  396. ttrishstar–thank you. I got in but after trying to click on a few links couldn’t get past the “obot bad site warning”.

    SueK 749–yes, we may someday cross paths. It would definitely be interesting. Actually, though it’s very remote, I’m more likely to cross paths with the daughter, who I’ve never met.

  397. citizen wells, as soon as you can post it.

  398. Linda from NY

    Something happened today…Dr. Keyes believes the judge was not happy with the way the DOJ presented their argument. Apparently, he got this impression from a communication he had with Dr. Taitz. jbjd is correct; we are only responding to one side of the story…the side we want to prevail. Leo D. chimed in and said he cannot believe the DOJ lawyers did not see the obvious so maybe, he thinks Judge Carter was unhappy with what the DOJ lawyers presented in their Motion to Dismiss. However, it appears he doesn’t know what happened, either. So, I think maybe, Ted is correct; the Motion to Dismiss is in limbo. Judge Carter neither granted nor denied it. If so, then what happens next? Well, if Judge Carter signs the clerical order, then we might not know until December 7th. Then, too, we might get an explanation from the court recording of what happened and still not know. So, I agree with Sue K; we should try not to get overly excited and keep praying the truth will come to light.

    BTW…Bob: your points are important to note as well. Thank you.

  399. I missed Beck tonight. Who was his guest and
    what was said?
    thanks.

  400. Jacqlyn Smith

    #

    Bob // October 7, 2009 at 7:34 pm

    While I agree with jbjd that the entry was only clerical — and no decision is made by it — Judge Carter knows the atmosphere — and his court knows the atmosphere — of the scheduling of a trial date. He has sent a signal to the Defense that there is something WRONG with their Motion to Dismiss.

    I’m only going on instinct to venture that what is WRONG is this –

    Orly’s lawsuit is ‘Candidate’ Keyes v ‘Candidate’ Obama.

    The question that ought to be asked is this: ‘Why is the Department of Justice representing ‘Candidate’ Obama?’ In other words, why is it the Department of Justice moving to dismiss this case?

    Their entire Motion to Dismiss was based upon the premise that Obama is the sitting President, and only Congress can act.

    I believe that Judge Carter has taken note of the fact this the Department of Justice entire motion is ‘out of order!’

    This is only a guess, but we’ll see! It will certainly give Orly good grounds to appeal, arguing that the Department of Justice did not BELONG before Judge Carter.
    *******************************************

    Bob…I have to agree with you…shouldn’t the DOJ be working for we the people and not me the dictator???

  401. citizenwells

    **** New Post ****

  402. ARMY D.A.V // October 7, 2009 at 7:48 pm said:

    Emergency Ex-Parte Motion for Relief From Stay of Discovery.

    http://go2.wordpress.com/?id=725X1342&site=citizenwells.wordpress.com&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.orlytaitzesq.com%2F%3Fp%3D4741

    That’s BAD! What the plaintiffs are saying is that they can not continue without discovery. What they should have said is that the court will not be able to make a lawful decision to grant summary judgement without allowing discovery on the defendant.

    They’re basically saying they don’t have enough evidence to move to trial without discovery. This is not true. There was and is plenty of evidence supporting the fact Soetoro is not eligible and the plaintiffs have a right to quo warranto to receive monetary damages, i.e. campaign funds for the 2012 election.

    However, it was GOOD that they included the fact the EO signed day one blocked all reasonable ability for plaintiffs to obtain discovery through the FOIA. That should alert the judge of impropriety. If it doesn’t Carter has mental cataracts.

  403. Linda from NY

    JeffM: You are soooo funny! Mental Cataracts!
    Do you really think the Plaintiffs went about their motion in the wrong way? If so, please help me understand. Thanks.

  404. Ok, just now getting to my computer. Stopped to post after reading about Judge Carter. Am I dreaming? I’m having a hard time thinking this is real. Ok, I shall continue to read and catch up and hope and pray that this is for real.

  405. @tick tock,
    It’s real.

  406. oldsalt77 said:

    JeffM- Which appeals court would this case be venued to if Soetoro is successful in doing this?

    Based on the type of case this is it should be immediately appealed to the U.S. Supreme Court. But let’s hope they go to the U.S. Court of Appeals instead as they have a better chance, especially with the SCROTUS we have now.

    And yes, this court and the Court of Appeals have jurisdiction in all matters of Constitutional Law.

  407. Jacqlyn Smith said:

    JeffM….Why are Berg followers reporting that Orly jumped the gun and this is not a decision from the Judge and that the decision to motion to dismiss has not been made final yet????

    I spoke too soon. I was under the impression the courts had already formally denied the dismissal.

    When the judge grants a summary judgment hearing, it grants both parties the ability to file motions prior to the date. It would seem a little odd to grant motions for a case that was to be dismissed in short order. There simply is no good reason to grant summary judgement briefs when a dismissal is highly probable. That is unless Carter wants to string along the plaintiffs into thinking they have a real chance at trial.

  408. Linda from NY,

    Yes. Always make the courts believe you have your act together and have all your ducks in a row. Make the courts feel they don’t have enough information to satisfy summary judgment. The plaintiffs need to make the judge say to himself:

    “I’ve got all the information I need on the plaintiff side to make a decision, but nothing on the defendant side”.

    That’s what’s going on here and they need to make it loud and clear the defendants don’t have enough evidence to support their arguments.

  409. The only statements that Orly has made about other lawyers are to those that are occasionally doing harm directly to her! I pray that God will be with her in her endeavor. As for those that always bad mouth her when the blue sky starts showing for her, SHUT UP, file your own cases and keep your mouth off of her. jbjd, I am as tired of your criticism of everything about Orly as you seem to be over your so called work being stolen. Leave her alone, if you can’t say something nice then say nothing at all. God bless ORLY and her efforts to force him to prove who he is and his eligibility.

  410. Linda from NY

    JeffM: Thanks for your explanation, but you seem to think the Plaintiffs took an “action” from a “weakened position.” Is that right and if so, why? What could they have done that would have been from a position of strength?

  411. Linda from NY,

    One should always show resolute and complete understanding of the law at all times. Always be confident your arguments and evidence are sound, even if you are missing information. The judge will see that you are “fishing” for information you don’t have. Make it clear the defendants aren’t being candid with the courts. Put the onus on them to prove you wrong through discovery.

    Statements should be like:

    “Defendants lack sufficient evidence he is natural born. It is in the court’s best interest to demand clear evidence Soetoro’s father and mother were both U.S. citizens at the time of his birth. Lack of this evidence requires full investigation by the court into the citizenship of both Dunham and Obama Sr. to guarantee the child was born to citizens of the United States and in a location under the jurisdiction of the United States. Plaintiffs have sufficient evidence Soetoro was not born in the U.S. nor born to citizen parents, making him a Citizen of the U.K., as the defendant clearly admitted in his statements on his campaign site fightthesmears.com as early as July 2008.”

    That would get Carter’s attention.

  412. The heading in the email is in German because it is a historical reference and a clever hint to go along with the NUTS. This is all a sick joke.

    As a citizen, and as part of the sovereign We The People, I am insulted by this sophomoric humor. It is disrespectful and condescending.

  413. JeffM // October 7, 2009 at 10:41 pm

    YES! That is exactly what is needed. Unfortunately, no person with such a crisp grasp of things has had the time or the money to step up to the plate and go to bat for our side. Orly seems to be all we have.

    I don’t disparage Orly – she is definitely Lady Liberty – and her heart is in the right place. But she is “all over the place”.

    Apparently no experienced and seasoned constitutional lawyer will touch this. So we have to go with what we have – extreme enthusiasm coupled with a moderate level of experience. SIGH.

  414. And keep in mind:–

    Judge Carter’s case is not necessarily to eject Obama (as under quo warranto). The case is about candidate Keyes vs. candidate Obama, alleging candidate Obama was inelligible to run. Keyes could recover some damages; and let Obama stay in office (if anyone would still want him) after that!

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  416. Leo’s sister in Magee, MS is trying to contact him. Her name is Mary Vaginia Haffey Berry. She is in a nursing home and sends her love. If anyone can help her call 601-497-2171.

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