Obama Montana town hall meeting, Obama lies, Update August 18, 2009, Obama thugs, SEIU, Big brother, Thought police, 1984

In another episode of “town hall meetings”, this time focusing the hate on insurance companies instead of the Jews in Nazi Germany or O’Brien in “1984” by George Orwell, modern day Big Brother, Obama, is utilizing the SEIU thugs as part of his Thought Police.

” Obama Gets The Facts Wrong At Montana Town Hall And Adds To Misinformation
By Tom White, on August 15th, 2009, at 10:23 am”

President Obama says there is a lot of misinformation out there, and he is correct. Most of it is coming from his own mouth. In fact, he has so mangled the truth that most experts say his credibility on Health Care is shot. During Friday’s Town Hall meeting in Belgrade, Montana Obama proved by his numerous misstatements and assertions that he is the leading cause of the confusion.

Many of the talking points Obama regurgitates at every opportunity have been completely debunked, yet he feels if he continues to repeat these over and over, they could somehow come true. Or more likely, believe his lies.
The Montana Town Hall was supposed to be one that did not allow the White House to cherry pick attendees. However, many against the Health Care plan arrived at 8:00 AM to get tickets, which were supposed to be distributed beginning at 9:00 AM, only to be told the tickets were all gone.”

“NewsMax reported:

“Something’s a little fishy here,” Jim Walters, eastern coordinator for Resistnet, a grass-roots organization affiliated with the Grassfire.org Alliance, told Newsmax prior to the event. “They weren’t supposed to start handing out tickets until 9 o’clock. I had people up here at 8, and the tickets were already gone.”
Walters estimated 1,000 people were gathered outside the airport near Bozeman, Mont., where the event was held. Walters told Newsmax that union members who arrived via bus from Chicago had initiated an altercation with town hall protesters.

He said he saw police making several arrests.

“I don’t understand that,” Walters said of the union response. “We’re here to have peaceful rallies.”
So much for Grassroots. Bus loads of Union thugs are now the new norm at Obama Town Halls. Strange how these out of towners all managed to get tickets. I guess the Brown Shirts have priority over the common folk.
Obama specifically asked for someone who was “skeptical” of the reform plan. The person asking the question was an insurance salesman, and he asked why the president is trying to “vilify” health insurance companies. “My intent is not to vilify the insurance companies,” Obama said. “We want to make sure the practices that are very tough on people, those practices change.”

But since Obama had opened the meeting saying, “We are held hostage … by health insurance companies”, this was simply another lie. A post on this Blog a few days ago shows that insurance company profits come from investments, not overcharging premiums. Many years the Insurance Companies would have lost money if the premiums were their only income.
Obama’s claims to use prevention to save money is an interesting, but false premise. Charles Krauthammer debunks this theory and says it will actually cost more in an article in the Washington Post.
Obama followed suit in his Tuesday New Hampshire town hall, touting prevention as amazingly dual-purpose: “It saves lives. It also saves money.””

“So, the bottom line is that President Obama is spreading lies and false accounting data. There is no savings in the plan and this plan, in the end, will waste more money, degrade our Health Care system, and prove to be an absolute failure that will ruin our country.”

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94 responses to “Obama Montana town hall meeting, Obama lies, Update August 18, 2009, Obama thugs, SEIU, Big brother, Thought police, 1984

  1. Patriot Dreamer


    “One In Three [UK] Nurses Does Not Want Swine Flu Vaccine”

  2. Jacqlyn Smith

    Anyone here know what this means??? Orly posted it at her site….


    Important filing in Keyes v Obama
    August 18th, 2009

    Dr. Orly Taitz

    (California SBN 223433)


    Orly Taitz Law Offices

    26302 La Paz, Suite 211

    Mission Viejo, California 92691

    Telephone: (949) 683-5411

    E-Mail: dr_taitz@yahoo.com




    Captain Pamela Barnett, §

    Lt. Colonel Richard Norton Bauerbach §

    Captain Robin D. Biron §

    Colonel John D. Blair, §

    Mr. David L. Bosley, §

    Ms. Loretta G. Bosley, §

    Captain Harry G. Butler, §

    Representative Glenn Casada, Tennessee § Civil Action No.:

    Jennifer Leah Clark, § SACV09-00082-DOC (Anx)

    Representative Timothy Comerford, NH §

    Charles Crusemire, §

    Representative Cynthia Davis, Missouri §

    Chief Warrant O. Thomas S. Davidson §

    Matthew Michael Edwards, § PLAINTIFFS’ NOTICE OF

    Sergeant Jason Freese, § 28 U.S.C. §636 OBJECTIONS

    Mr. Kurt C. Fuqua, § AND MOTION FOR REVIEW

    Officer Clint Grimes, § OF MAGISTRATE JUDGE

    Representative Casey Guernsey, Missouri § ARTHUR NAKAZATO’S

    Julliett Ireland, § SUA SPONTE ORDER OF

    D. Andrew Johnson, § AUGUST 6, 2009

    Israel D. Jones, § STRIKING MOTION FOR

    Timothy Jones, § LETTERS ROGATORY and

    Alan Keyes, Ph.D., § MOTION TO RECUSE

    Commander David Fullmer LaRoque, § MAGISTRATE JUDGE

    Gail Lightfoot, § ARTHUR NAKAZATO under

    Lita M. Lott, § 28 U.S.C. §455(a)

    Major David Grant Mosby, § “Appearance of Impropriety due

    MSGT Steven Kay Neuenschwander, § to bias or prejudice.”

    Representative Frank Niceley, Tennessee §

    Retired Senator Jerry O’Neil, Montana, § Motion Day Hearing: Monday

    SFC E7 Robert Lee Perry , § September 14, 2009, 8:30 AM

    Representative Larry Rappaport, NH §

    Colonel Harry Riley, § Request for Earlier & Expedited

    Sergeant Jeffrey Wayne Rosner, § Hearing Submitted herein

    MSGT Jeffrey Schwilk, §

    Captain David Smithey, §

    Carl S. Sneeden, DVM, §

    Lt. Commander John Bruce Steidel, §

    Cmdr. Douglas Earl Stoeppelwerth §

    Thomas J Taylor, §

    Representative Eric Swafford, Tennessee §

    Captain Neil B. Turner, §

    Richard E. Venable, §

    LCDR Jeff Graham Winthrope, and §

    Lt. Colonel Mark Wriggle, §

    Plaintiffs, §


    v. §


    Barack Hussein Obama, §

    Michelle L.R. Obama, §

    Hillary Rodham Clinton, Secretary of State, §

    Robert M. Gates, Secretary of Defense, §

    Joseph R. Biden, Vice-President and §

    President of the Senate, §

    Defendants. §





    Judge Arthur Nakazato’s order of August 6, 2009, is a nullity without lawful force or effect because it was entered without any prior transfer nor order of reference, nor by the consent of the parties, pursuant to 28 U.S.C. §636(b)(1)(A) and Rule 72(a) of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure. Plaintiffs are concerned, and first and foremost generally object to Judge Nakazato’s August 6, 2009 order (shown as Document 35) in “Case: 8:09-cv-00082-DOC-AN As of: 08/17/2009 06:55 PM PDT” because Judge Nakazato’s hyper-formalistic order appears to be inconsistent with Judge David O. Carter’s oral assurances in court on July 13, 2009, that this case would be allowed to proceed on the merits without undue regard to technicalities.

    The motion submitted was extremely important and the technicalities enumerated seem unworthy. The first violations of the local rules which Judge Nakazato listed was the form of the “Notice of Motion” required by Central District of California L.R. 6-1 and L.R. 7-4: Plaintiffs did not check their calendars to select which Monday was their Motion day. While omission was a fair criticism on the Magistrate Judge’s part, L.R. 7-4 states that “the court MAY decline to consider a motion unless it meets to requirements of L.R. 7-4-7-8.” In the context of this case, where none of the Defendants had actually appeared or answered as of yet, and in which Judge Carter had previously set hearings sua sponte without reference to the “Notice of Motion” rule or schedule, Judge Nakazato’s UNAUTHORIZED order striking the Plaintiffs’ Motion seems unduly severe and prejudicial.

    In regard to L.R. Rule 11-3.3 regarding form and format: pagination, Plaintiffs submit that their failure to paginate was a printing error, and that in fact they were unaware that their motion had no numbers until this was pointed out by the Court, because on their computer screen, the Motion was fully compliant with: “L.R. 11-3.3 Pagination. All documents shall be numbered consecutively at the bottom of each page.” More perplexing, however, is Judge Nakazato’s reference to Rule 11-3.6: “L.R. 11-3.6 Spacing . The typing or printing on the document shall be double spaced, including citations and quotations.”

    Even after carefully examining the three subparts of L.R. 11-3.6 in some detail, Plaintiffs submit that their August 1, 2009, Motion was entirely in compliance with Local Rules 11-3.6, 11-3.6.1, 11-3.6.2, and 11.6.3. In any event, Plaintiffs’ First Amended Motion for Issuance of Letters Rogatory is currently being prepared.

    28 U.S.C. §455(a) MOTION TO RECUSE


    As noted above, Judge Arthur Nakazato’s order of August 6, 2009, seems entirely incompatible with Judge David O. Carter’s oral pronouncements made both literally and figuratively ex-cathedra in open court on Monday, July 13, 2009, that he intended to take this case concerning the qualifications of Barack Hussein Obama to serve as President of the United States seriously and see that the merits of this case would not be obscured by trivial technicalities.

    As the United States Supreme Court has held (per Justice Scalia) that

    …favorable or unfavorable predisposition can also deserve to be characterized as “bias” or “prejudice” because, even though it springs from the facts adduced or the events occurring at trial, it is so extreme as to display clear inability to render fair judgment. (That explains what some courts have called the “pervasive bias” exception to the “extrajudicial source” doctrine. See, e.g., Davis v. Board of School Comm’rs of Mobile County, 517 F.2d 1044, 1051 (CA5 1975), cert. denied, 425 U.S. 944, 48 L. Ed. 2d 188, 96 S. Ct. 1685 (1976).)

    Liteky v. United States, 510 U.S. at 551, 114 S.Ct.at 1155, 127 L.Ed.2d at 488 (1994).

    Plaintiffs submit that Judge Arthur Nakazato’s order, entered without any prior order of reference, without the consent of the parties, and without an order of transfer from the District Judge, shows in its content and tenor a disloyalty to Judge Carter’s promise and in fact a disregard (with regard to the pagination 11-3.6 issues) a complete disregard of the actual compliant nature of the motion attacked. If the Court believes that these Plaintiffs’ counsel has in any way violated Local Rule 11-3.6, the Plaintiffs’ pray that the Court will instruct counsel on the nature of the violations.

    The reality is that a firestorm broke loose on the internet and electronic media generally on August 2-5 concerning the document attached to Plaintiff’s August 1, 2009 Document 34 as Exhibit A. Plaintiffs’ counsel was subjected to verbal abuse including death-threats and that this firestorm was unjustifiably fed and fanned by Judge Arthur Nakazato’s order. The reality of this case is that respect for the importance of the issues involved, such as the respect shown by Judge David O. Carter on July 13, 2009, is the only hope for a fair and just resolution in the best interests of the people of the United States.


    WHEREFORE, Plaintiffs pray that the United States District Court will sustain their objections to Magistrate Judge Arthur Nakazato’s order entered Thursday August 6, 2009, which objections are submitted within ten business days as allowed by Rule 6(a)(2), and that the Court will set together the Plaintiffs’ Motion for Review of Judge Nakazato’s order together with the Plaintiff’s Motion to Recuse Judge Arthur Nakazato for hearing prior to the 24 days after service required by local Rule 6-1 and 7-4 which yields an “ordinary” Motion day of September 14, 2009.

    Respectfully submitted,

    Monday, August 18, 2009


    Dr. Orly Taitz, Esq. (SBN 223433)

    Attorney for the Plaintiffs

    26302 La Paz, Suite 211

    Mission Viejo, California 92691

    Telephone (949) 683-5411

    E-Mail: dr_taitz@yahoo.com


    I the undersigned Charles Edward Lincoln, being over the age of 18 and not a party to this case, so hereby declare under penalty of perjury that on this 18th Day of August, I provided facsimile copies of the Plaintiffs’ above-and-foregoing “Rule 72(a) Objections and Motion for Review of Magistrate Judge Arthur Nakazato’s Sua Sponte Order Striking Plaintiffs Motion for Issuance of Letters Rogatory” upon those attorneys who have appeared in this case in accordance with the local rules of the Central District of California, to wit:



    ROGER E. WEST roger.west4@usdoj.gov (as of August 7, 2009, designated as lead counsel for Defendant Barack H. Obama)


    FACSIMILE (213) 894-7819

    DONE AND EXECUTED ON THIS 18th day of August, 2009

    Charles Edward Lincoln

  3. Patriot Dreamer

    Similar news story to the one above, but from different source:

    “Only a third of nurses willing to have swine flu vaccine: poll”

  4. TO:
    oldsalt77 // August 18, 2009 at 10:14 am

    JUST ME………………………………………….

    Ref; Antique coinage. While your information is what the belief HAS been for years with everyone, there is a great deal of apprehension creeping into this issue. The warning that we all recieved yesterday said only the specifics that I reiterated in my prior comment. One can hang on to prized historic coins, and TAKE A CHANCE. Given the nature of our present leader’s behavior, I for one do not intend to play Russian Roulette where my livlihood is concerned. Understand this is information that I received from our guild, and Ipassed it on in the interest of making anyone else who collects coins aware of the latest aspects of Soetoro’s antics. As I stated we are in UNCHARTED water, and we MUST reduce speed, and KEEP a very concerned eye on both the horizon,and ALL of the water in between. It also means paying attention to what is going on around you in close proximity. My personal viewpoint is that if it is ALL on the table then the historic value of a coin, or jewelry item may not be given any consideration at all. In this regard one must look back in history, and like John Feeny has acknowledged, the Nazis did not pay any attention to HISTORIC VALUE. They simply either KICKED the gold teeth out of the Jew’s mouths, or went from door to door TAKING any gold that they could grab. I remember listening to the radio in 1937 and hearing about their ONGOING looting everywhere. Again I personally think that this could happen here in the US. In 1932 shortly after he was elected, FDR moved to remove the US from the Gold standard. What most of us know as “SCRIP”became the legal tender of the moment. During the changeover the dollar was revalued to silver value. Then the US Government acted to illegalise the ownership of Gold by private owners. They confiscated all that they could find and gave the people who they STOLE it from a value which equalled about one quarter of what the people originally paid for it. These people lost serious money,and the US Government made an instant profit of over $25.00 per ounce on every ounce that they STOLE. I am sure that anyone who went through it will remember the anger, and bad taste left in his/her mouth after the US Government truck left their driveway. I personally expect all of this to occur again, and without regard for anyone,or any historic value of any entity containing Gold. I am reasonably certain that it is already a done deal, and will be sprung by surprise, to coincide with another criminal act that is presently being perpetrated by Soetoro, namely the confiscation of all US paper and metal money, which will soon be replaced with with a common money that is to be put in circulation in North America, the US, and Mexico. It will be devalued at the same time. After the smoke clears we will be on a par with Europe with regard to our monetary system. The last information I had said the new money is to be called the “AMERO”.
    We can sit around and allow Soetoro to steal from us, or we can divest ourselves of the valuables,so he can’t steal them from us. Sadly it seems to be his intention to either steal our valuables outright, or tax us so heavily on OWNERSHIP of everything that we will eventually own NOTHING. At that point he will begin confiscating anything upon which alleged taxes are due. Things are going to get pretty hairy.


    A lot of the devaluation has already happened :401K’s worth 25%, Stocks, etc it is all part of a Ponzi Scheme to SHIFT the money out cheaply. That money doesn’t go up in thin air, it is SOMEWHERE….waiting to be invested “back in” by the Ponzi Schemers. Granted when Commercial Foreclusures start it will be huge adn more devaluing will happen. There is still lots of stuff coming and it is going to be ULGY.
    There is a manipulation going on that most are not aware of, no one can predict the future but a safe investment bet is Survival Supplies especially food and ammunition that can be traded for food, also energy which is more difficult to store but will be worth more than gold.

  5. Peter Francisco,

    I agree. Fortunately we have already stock piled food, meds, water, gasoline, propane, heirloom seeds, etc. This was the easy part of preparing. My husband and I said, we’d be fools not to heed the advice that is “out there.” If nothing happens, then great. We will just donate it to local charities.

    We have also stocked up on items of necessity that could be used for barter purposes, and to share with anyone – be it family, neighbors, or strangers that need to be fed or cared for.

    I know we are all trying to second guess the situation because there is so much disinformation being fed to us by the govt. and we can’t trust anything we’re being told. But, the most unsettling feeling is with the currency. I try to follow it as closely as I can even though it makes my head spin sometimes.

    The contribution of information by folks on this site is greatly appreciated. Thanks.

  6. I am not a lawyer, but it appears that Orly filed to nullify the magistrate judges order and asks that that magistrate be removed from any further judgments relating to the case.

  7. Patriot Dreamer


    “DNA Evidence Can Be Fabricated, Scientists Show”

  8. The “powers that be” didn’t like Judge Carter.


  9. Sent by a friend…

    Alternative to AARP, American Seniors Association:

  10. twe – Just found this. Read the comments.


  11. Found this post interesting. References to back it up. Too convenient for this to just show up on Facebook now- someone is ****ing with us or someone in the “know” is trying to steer us straight. God only knows.

    Not only was he 48 before the election, he turned 48 again this year!


    “Tuesday, August 4 2009 was President Barack Obama’s 48th birthday. But neither he nor the Democratic Party was in the mood to celebrate…

    In fact, as of 6/25/08 when the pre-election MySpace was updated he should have been 46 in order to be 48 by 8/4/09.State: Washington

  12. Patriot Dreamer

    Prairie, if they can’t be consistent with his hospital of birth, why should they be consistent with his age?


  13. Jacqlyn Smith


    Prairie // August 18, 2009 at 12:59 pm

    The “powers that be” didn’t like Judge Carter.



    I agree with the poster at freerepulic…..I think it means the FRAUD is trying to get judge Carter off of the case…..typical THUG move!!!

  14. Jacqlyn Smith // August 18, 2009 at 1:51 pm

    Yeah, Jackie, Carter seemed to give Orly a *bunch* of passes and it appeared that he really wanted that case BUT, the Thug Administration can’t have that now, can they?

    Discovery (even limited discovery) would put an end to this whole matter and they can’t have that, either!

  15. PF @ 10:59 re “trailer on stilts”…yeh, baby! nice clip…looks like a double-wide…
    nuthin says ‘redneck’ like a house on wheels with a hitch…
    OT: know what a tornado and a redneck divorce have in common?…either way, someone’s losing a trailer!…hehe…

  16. TO:
    Prairie // August 18, 2009 at 1:29 pm

    Found this post interesting. References to back it up. Too convenient for this to just show up on Facebook now- someone is ****ing with us or someone in the “know” is trying to steer us straight. God only knows.

    Not only was he 48 before the election, he turned 48 again this year!


    Obama Agonistes
    Wednesday, 12 August 2009 01:03
    Ebenezer Obadare .

    This ARTICLE is TROUBLING in so many levels.
    McCain had to show his Documents, including BC, 1500 pgs of Health info, etc.

    These race pimps, need to face reality and stop fanning little existent racism. Most Americans don’t mind a black or a woman leading the country AS LONG AS THEY ARE CONSTITUTIONALLY QUALIFIED AND FAIRLY won an election without using fraud or cheating. We had Condolezza Rice and Consertives could care less about her race or gender.

    Did you notice that a newspaper that is talking about racism and only white presidents almost all their writers on the page are black and lonely white male is old and named Whiteman? LOL

  17. Jacqlyn Smith // August 18, 2009 at 1:51 pm


    Just found this on Orly’s site. She’s refusing to go forward if Judge Carter won’t be sitting:


    Don’t blame her at all!

  18. Oops! Greg, just read your link.

    Another procedural issue chalked up to Orly. Who the heck does she have advising her?

  19. Donofrio implies she’s deliberately sabotaging the effort by omitting the critical self-admission that Obama was born a British citizen thus cannot be a natural born citizen.
    She is doing a disservice to the cause and to these soldiers by omitting this critical component.

  20. CW, I thought I read somewhere that the vaccine was patented before the virus came out. And I thought it was your blog?

    Anyway http://targetfreedom.typepad.com/targetfreedom/

  21. Jacqlyn Smith

    Orly’s failure to understand the most basic rules of federal practice show that she is a professional embarassment. Her claim that this is some sort of plot against her shows that she is paranoid.

    The above is from GilGil at freerepublic….I can’t imagine why Orly might feel PARANOID…..Can you??? I don’t think Orly has claimed to be the know all attorney when it comes to Constitutional law…..she is new at all of this so without the help of experience and guidance she continues to flounder….at least she is trying…..more than I can say for most!!

  22. SueK (et al) @ 2:08: I so hate to sound like the skeptic…but, DANG…it SO much is smelling ‘old plant-like’ in that the ‘flubs’ seem SO blatant…almost a joke. And I don’t pretend to be a fan of Andy Martin and his ‘self-promoting’, ‘won’t-somebody-please-notice-me’ demeanor…BUT, he may be onto something about OT’s ‘she-nanny-guns’…

    Yeh…who IS advising her?! dang good question! So even if you don’t care for the messenger (Andy Martin), at least take time to examine the substance and the ‘why’ in what he writes…you don’t have to like or endorse his candidacy or his ‘ego’…but if he’s digging for some bones…heck, let him do the digging! I say.
    I don’t really care WHAT the shovel looks like…if the tool does the job, what-the-hey?!
    Different subject: I said I’d report back on my meeting regarding the big law inforcement conference going on this week in Long Beach, California…I am fairly confident in assessing that it is NOT related to the ‘OTHER’ stuff…yet I will keep ‘watching’.
    would like to hear any other feedback and/or info on the involvement & dealings of Sen. DeMint…in case anyone else is ‘watching’.

  23. Jacqlyn Smith

    Below is what Orly has now posted at her site….Plaintiffs refuse Nakasata….Go Orly!!!


    Important Plaintiffs in Keyes v Obama refuse to proceed before Magistrate judge Nakazata, hearing to proceed before US District judge Carter only
    August 18th, 2009

    Case Referrals – Consents to Proceed
    8:09-cv-00082-DOC-AN Captain Pamela Barnett, et al v. Barack Hussein Obama, et al


    Notice of Electronic Filing
    The following transaction was entered by Taitz, Orly on 8/18/2009 at 8:21 AM PDT and filed on 8/18/2009
    Case Name: Captain Pamela Barnett, et al v. Barack Hussein Obama, et al
    Case Number: 8:09-cv-82
    Filer: Alan Keyes PhD
    Document Number: 37

    Docket Text:
    DECLINED STATEMENT OF CONSENT TO PROCEED before the assigned Magistrate Judge filed by plaintiff Alan Keyes PhD. (Taitz, Orly)
    8:09-cv-82 Notice has been electronically mailed to:

    David A DeJute USACAC.Civil@usdoj.gov, David.Dejute@usdoj.gov

    Orly Taitz dr_taitz@yahoo.com

    Roger E West USACAC.Civil@usdoj.gov, Roger.West4@usdoj.gov

    8:09-cv-82 Notice has been delivered by First Class U. S. Mail or by fax to: :

    The following document(s) are associated with this transaction:
    Document description:

    Main Document
    Original filename:C:\Documents and Settings\Aron\My Documents\PDF -AUG-18-09–Objections–Motion for Review–Motion to Recuse Arthur Nakazato[1].pdf
    Electronic document Stamp:
    [STAMP cacdStamp_ID=1020290914 [Date=8/18/2009] [FileNumber=8295396-0]

  24. OT…from FRC, in case you’re interested:


  25. Jacqlyn Smith

    This is now at Donofrio’s site>>>>


    AP Issues Chester Arthur Propaganda To Protect Obama.
    Posted in Uncategorized on August 17, 2009 by naturalborncitizen


    Today the AP issued a story titled “Obama Birthplace Flap Evokes Arthur Debate”. The story makes an analogy between the Obama birth certificate issue and the controversy surrounding Chester Arthur’s birthplace. The story contains a lie. It states that Chester Arthur never publicly addressed the issue of Hinman’s allegations that he was born in Canada. But Arthur did specifically address these issues in the Brooklyn Eagle newspaper.

    However, AP and MSNBC won’t tell you that because Arthur was caught lying about his parents heritage in those newspaper interviews. He was lying to cover up the fact that Hinman was correct – Chester Arthur was a British subject – but for a different reason than where he was born.

    AP and MSNBC forgot to mention that Chester Arthur’s father William didn’t become a naturalized citizen of the US until 1843 – 14 years after old Chester was born. This means that Chester Arthur was not a natural born citizen since at the time of his birth he was a subject of Great Britain. These facts as to Chester Arthur’s failure to meet the Constitutional requirement were first reported at this blog back in December ‘08.

    Please see that report, Historical Breakthrough – Proof: Chester Arthur Concealed He Was A British Subject At Birth.

    No main stream media outlet has reported this historical discovery and as we can see by the AP piece today, objective reporting has been replaced by propaganda. AP reported as follows:

    Never addressed allegation
    Democrats, meanwhile, hired a lawyer named Arthur Hinman who sought to discredit Arthur, claiming he was born in Dunham, Quebec, about 47 miles north of Fairfield. Hinman traveled to Vermont and Canada to research Arthur’s past, eventually concluding that Arthur was born in Canada but appropriated the birth records of a baby brother who was born in Fairfield, but died as an infant.

    He later incorporated the findings into a book titled “How A British Subject Became President of the United States.”

    Arthur, who served from 1881 to 1885, never publicly addressed the allegation.

    But Arthur did address the issue.

    In the Brooklyn Eagle newspaper, an article interviewing Chester Arthur about Hinman’s accusations was published on August 13, 1880. In that article, Chester Arthur defended himself as follows:

    “My father, the late Rev. William Arthur, D.D., was of Scotch blood, and was a native of the North of Ireland. He came to this country when he was eighteen years of age, and resided here several years before he was married.”

    This was another blatant lie. His father emigrated from Ireland to Canada at the age of 22 or 23. William Arthur didn’t come to the United States until sometime between March 1822 – when his first child was born in Dunham, Canada – and March 1824 – when his second child was born in Burlington, Vermont. The youngest he could have been when he came to Vermont was 26.

    On August 16, 1880 Chester Arthur told the Brooklyn Eagle newspaper that at the time of his birth, his father was forty years old. Another blatant lie. His father would have been only thirty-three years old when Chester was born.

    In that same article he lied that his father settled in Vermont and reiterated the lie that William came here at the age of eighteen. This age discrepancy was exposed in the August 19, 1880 edition of the Brooklyn Eagle in an article written by Hinman .

    It was very convenient for Arthur that Hinman kept the focus on the extraordinary and false claim – that Arthur was born abroad – while the more subtle and true eligibility issue stayed hidden in plain site.

    AP just published a story that said Arthur never publicly addressed the issue and the stench of a propaganda lie fills the air. We are treading in very dangerous waters, America. History is being controlled by lies.

    “He who controls the present controls the past. He who controls the past controls the future”. George Orwell.

  26. Ms Helga–thanks…I always find the comments interesting as well.

    GG–I looked through the patent application pdf (filed in 2008). I don’t believe it’s a smoking gun as the article said. It just looks like a method to produce vaccine and covers all or most of the known varieties of flu, wherever/whenever known. It applies to flu A, B and C strains, too (these are the ones we see from year to year), as well as avian flu, horse flu, etc. In other words, the people applying for the patent wanted to cover any possible contingencies that could come up. Could they have known that H1N1 would be an issue? Maybe, maybe not. Some other thing might prove that; but, the pdf of the patent application doesn’t look like it does.

  27. Hey Greg,

    I read the entire patent application and I must respectfully disagree with the blog it came from stating that it was a ‘smoking gun.’

    The application for the patent was 8/28/08, but it was *published* on 3/5/09.

    Many times, a procedure will be patented (and becomes an SOP-Standard Operating Procedure) but will be modified according to what they think the strain may be for this flu season. Happens all the time.

    I can’t see the reference the blog is talking about-Page 7, section 0056?

    This is a *general* vaccine patent application from 2008; nowhere in that application does it specifically mention it’s for the current H1N1 strain. If you read the application, you’ll see H1N1 mentioned (as you know, prior to this current strain there were/are other ‘swine’ strains), but you’ll also see other strains (like H5N1) mentioned, too.

    All this is, is an application to patent their *method* of creating flu vaccines-nothing more.

    Unfortunately, Baxter is the company applying for the patent…

  28. Another excellent article on AP’s failed attempt to
    change history via propaganda.
    They’re clearly sweating now.


  29. twe // August 18, 2009 at 2:55 pm

    Great minds think alike, twe :).

  30. Re-do // August 18, 2009 at 2:29 pm

    Hey Re-do,

    Boy, I dunno….

    While I admire Orly’s ‘chutzpah’ I cringe each time something like this happens-it’s like a fumble when the score’s tied 14/14.

    My concern is that the cases she’s filing are of the UTMOST importance-these aren’t personal injury motor vehicle accident cases.

    I would think that she, while remaining the lead attorney, would surround herself with and take the advice of the best and brightest because after all, America is at stake here.

  31. Thanx twe and SueK. I knew I had read a while ago. It seems to be making the rounds again…

  32. PF @ previous thread re clip: okay…I am a happily-married guy…but DANG: a chic with an AK is still pretty racy stuff…gotta be honest.
    Hmmm…maybe you just gave me an idea what to get my sweetie pie for Christmas…
    (better make it an ‘early’ gift, eh?)

  33. SueK @ 3:12: I know, I know…I hear ya…but, again…DANG…it’s just too, too…how do I decribe it…”off-target”, to sit right with me.
    Again, I am definitely NOT a legal-mind type, so I have to rely on some ‘discernment’ attributes that let’s me know when something is amiss…and it certainly IS…HERE…with HER…and all this merry-go-round stuff. I think she…with whatever is going on in the ‘unseen’…seems to almost be more ‘aiding the emeny’…than helping. I’d feel alot more solid about her efforts if there were some rational voices RIGHT AT HER SIDE: and it’s this lack that is making the most ‘noise’ about what’s NOT happening in her corner…
    …just sayin’…”I dunno either” but it’s got some too-familiar ‘stink’ on it.

  34. …it’s like planning a trip up to the mountains during snow season…you need the proper vehicle…4-wheel drive, chains, extra gear in case of emergency…and she’s driving an Izetta.
    (remember those, from BMW? with the whole front is the door?!…very cute, and a crowd pleaser…but totally unfit for the job!) sorry.

  35. SueK–I just popped back in. We even used some of the same words! Spooky! Now, someone should really look into that!!! Ha, ha!!

  36. Jacqlyn Smith

    Hey guys….You know Orly has filed that case with Dr. Keyes being one of the Plaintiffs….he is a pretty smart guy himself….I’m sure he is helping advise Orly.

  37. Dr. Alan Keyes rocks!

  38. twe // August 18, 2009 at 3:28 pm

    twe, I *knew* you were my evil (?) twin! :).

  39. Agreed: Alan Keyes is brilliant, and a good communicator…but if he’s her CLIENT, he can’t be making his own statements…or can he?!

  40. Jacqlyn Smith


    twe // August 18, 2009 at 3:30 pm

    Dr. Alan Keyes rocks!

    Dr. Keyes is a true “natural born” African American citizen who had the Presidency stolen from him….if he doesn’t have standing I don’t know who would!!! He is a great American with integrity!!

  41. The Kerchner/Apuzzo articles in the Washington Times are infuriating MSM, so the battle is picking up. People who criticize Orly are amazing, unless they are for Obama. She has plaintiffs with standing, a judge who is not crazy, and is actually moving through the court system. And they attack her…..I am sure George Washington had his critics too…and Joan of Arc. Orly seems to deal with the critics very well. They are willing to shout from the sidelines, but you will not see them leading any charges. Donofrio is upset that his issue of British born is not highlighted, and yet Orly repeatedly speaks and writes of citizenship of parents. I think if he sees focus on birth certificate also, which is needed to document both parents, he thinks the parent issue is gone, but it is not. Orly is very aware. And with Alan Keyes, the racist issue is gone. And she even has a relative of Obama, who was legally supposed to have access to Obama birth records, but Hawaii blocked. Relatives are supposed to have access for genealogy studies. That shows what is up in Hawaii.

  42. Jacqlyn Smith


    Re-do // August 18, 2009 at 3:35 pm

    Agreed: Alan Keyes is brilliant, and a good communicator…but if he’s her CLIENT, he can’t be making his own statements…or can he?!

    I would think he could help advise her!

  43. Re-do // August 18, 2009 at 3:22 pm

    Jacqlyn Smith // August 18, 2009 at 3:28 pm

    Yeah, Re-do and Jackie, but I’m thinking how many attorneys on these various blogs have sent her info or have talked to her regarding procedural matters, and she seems to shut them down.

    IMO, she can’t do this solo. While her zeal is second to none, issues like not signing pleadings, not accomplishing proper service, and things like that tend to cause the Obots and their ilk to label her with names that would upset me to even repeat.

    Right-Dr. Keyes is undeniably a very smart cookie and we know he’s advising her however, I really do believe that surrounding herself with a team of ace Constitutional lawyers to get this done is the way to go.

    Just my take…

  44. Shepard Smith is in the process of dismantling Bill Burton.

    I need a cigarette.

  45. Ari Emanuel is a brother of Rahm and Dr. Zeke, and is a Hollywood agent, handling Michael Moore….so SICKO seems to be groundwork for the campaign for socialized health care, coordinated by the 3 Emanuels.

    If the tax dollars going into drug research gave the government 50% of profits from drugs developed, we would have free health care. Instead, the drug companies use tax for research and then gouge the public again with prices.

    If insurance companies make their profits from investments not policies, maybe they want government health care, since they may be hurting big time from market drop and cannot cover their policies. Is that why Aetna is supporting Obama, to get rescued by the government?

  46. SueK–Ha!
    But, seriously, I try not to do evil…work against it, yes…giving all the credit to the Lord where it belongs
    …in him, with him and through him!

  47. “South Africans voted for their own suicide. Did you?
    In another generation, America may well face what Africa is now experiencing – invasions of private land by the “have-nots;” the decline in health care quality; roads and buildings in disrepair; the banishment of your history from the education of the young; the revolutionization of your justice system. ”


  48. This is pretty important:
    Tomorrow night, James Langevin (D-RI) will be holding a townhall meeting in Warwick, RI. Not only is Mr. Langevin disabled, and therefore one of the peoople who would suffer at the hand of this deathscare bill….but have a read at this flyer from ACORN that was intercepted by the RI Young Republicans:

    Breaking News! Pot Calls Kettle Black!!!!

    Astroturfing Still a Quintessential Leftist Tactic

    Rhode Islanders –

    Are you planning on attending tomorrow’s TownHall meeting concerning health-care reform? Well, ACORN may not allow you to. And do you consider yourself a radical? Well, ACORN does. Here is the email ACORN recently sent out to its members, instructing them to show up hours early in order to keep any possible dissent as marginalized as possible. An honest and open deliberation with your elected leader be damned!

    Dear Members.

    As you are aware in our prior email, we need your presence at Congressman James Langevin’s Town Hall Meeting at the Warwick police Station 99 Veterans Memorial Drive, Warwick, Rhode Island. We are planning on arriving early at 1:30PM to fill the hall before the radical right protestors arrive. A box lunch will be provided for those on the bus. We will meet at headquarters for those wishing to join us on the bus.

    Thank you!

    The Acorn Team

    I know one Irishman who’s not going to be held out of ANY meeting.

  49. I hope many of you copy, paste, and spread that missive far and wide!

  50. It’s not just the advice she needs (lacks?)…but it’s the ARTICULATE, CALM-DEMEANOR, SELF-CONTROLLED spokesman…the one who’s going to DO THE TALKING…period.
    …like that Englishman…Daniel Hannan…team her ‘wiff th’ likes o’ ‘im!” (that’s my lame attempt at writing ‘cockney speak’) and you might have a winning combo!

  51. John Feeny–thanks…it’s getting around

  52. And she even has a relative of Obama, who was legally supposed to have access to Obama birth records, but Hawaii blocked. Relatives are supposed to have access for genealogy studies. That shows what is up in Hawaii.
    ch–Good for Orly. Which relative might
    that be?

  53. TO:
    John Feeny // August 18, 2009 at 3:51 pm

    This is pretty important:
    Tomorrow night, James Langevin (D-RI) will be holding a townhall meeting in Warwick, RI. Not only is Mr. Langevin disabled, and therefore one of the peoople who would suffer at the hand of this deathscare bill….but have a read at this flyer from ACORN that was intercepted by the RI Young Republicans:

    Infiltrate with others, by pretending to be an ACORN member, tell them you received their e-mail and you came to help destroy the radicals, to gain access once inside speak up and INFURIATE those that spread Division and HATE.

    If they ask how come you don’t have a shirt tell them you had to rush from work LOL. We need to use their tactics on THEM. We all need to study Alinsky’s Rules For Radicals and ADAPT them to Rules for Constitutionalist Revolutionaries

  54. I agree with SueK that it doesn’t hurt for Orly
    to surround herself with great Constitutional
    legal scholars to tap into for advice.

  55. When we have time we need to ORGANIZE and start Protests in Front of ACORN Offices and SEIU across the country and DEMAND they DISBAND ther Criminal Enterprises they grew by protest they will GO by our Protest. Fined out where they live and Protest in front of their houses lets TARGET THEM for Revolution and Rejection.

  56. OT: It amazing me to see footage from so many
    states that actually voted in the Fraud (e.g.
    Vermont) where people are finally out there
    protesting against him. Why did they vote for
    him in the first place? Couldn’t they see through
    his “antics?”

  57. Orly needs ot reach out to Edwin Vieira, PHD http://www.cusc.org and ask for his help.

    they need to assemble a Leagl Eagle Team that will have CLOUT adn can’t be ignored at the same time they need a VOICE to deal with the PRESS.

  58. PRWH–great stuff! Just be careful. Spying is risky business. I’m sure they’re reading it all here, too. So, they’ll be expecting it. Ah shucks! Make them be suspicious of their own, too! A two-fer!!!

  59. War Hero –
    Great idea, but mine is not a face given to deception…I could never pull it off. Trust me…I’m just being honest.

    I’m much more effective in…how shall we say?…”close quarters”. Trust me…I’ll be inside.

  60. twe // August 18, 2009 at 3:47 pm

    Of course, twe…wouldn’t have it any other way! He is THE GUY!

  61. citizenwells

    John F.
    Keep us updated on the RI town hall.

  62. Patriot Dreamer

    John Feeny, make sure you bring a video camera!

  63. TO:
    maddie // August 18, 2009 at 4:15 pm

    OT: It amazing me to see footage from so many
    states that actually voted in the Fraud (e.g.
    Vermont) where people are finally out there
    protesting against him. Why did they vote for
    him in the first place? Couldn’t they see through
    his “antics?”

    You are ignoring the brainwashing power of the Propaganda Media and how foolish people easily get brainwashed to parrot the brown shirt media. I deal with it all the time in my circles.

    Last election was the Dems, Media and Rinos vs Palin it is amazing that it was not a LANDLSIDE. It speaks to Conservatives’ and Palin’s Powerful Potential in future elections with a Movement that will bring America back to it’s foundings and greatness.

  64. It’s is the Constitution-eligibility requirements must be fulfilled. Nothing will get in the way of that truth. No lies, no cover-ups, no scrubbing-from the ONE no proof. Every President before him provided proof, with the exception of Chester A. Arthur.
    It’s the government of the people, by the people and for the people. NOT
    It’s the government of the politician, by the politician and for the politician.
    Vote out of office all those congress people who did not allow the people to speak by various means: hall way too small, intimidation, insults etc. That is their job to be in contact with the people whom they are elected to represent. That in itself should be unConstitutional.

  65. TO:

    twe // August 18, 2009 at 4:20 pm

    PRWH–great stuff! Just be careful. Spying is risky business. I’m sure they’re reading it all here, too. So, they’ll be expecting it. Ah shucks! Make them be suspicious of their own, too! A two-fer!!!
    Brilliant, Great Minds THINK!

  66. Videocamera – check.
    Updates – check.

    Take a look at this – it’s hilarious.

    White House Reveals Obama Is Bipolar, Has Entered Depressive Phase

  67. Leo D. definitely needs to go with Dr.Orly!!
    I want Leo with her!!!!!!!!!

  68. Great vid, John-thanks for posting. I think it just *may* be on the level!

    Don’t forget your homemade (not mass produced) sign :).

  69. I couldn’t make a sign.

    I’d only know how to write, “GO F*** YOURSELF!”

  70. JF @ 4:44: yeh, and…your point?! (LOL)…
    what’s wrong with that…think it’s the wrong message?!

  71. I’m testing this to see if it works. it’s cute!

  72. JF…you’d probably encounter folks coming up to you and saying something like…
    “Hey..bitchen sign, Dude…where can I get one like that?!”

  73. I’ve always felt that it’s the “one size fits all” response for people who are trying the level best to be a******s.

  74. “Well, let me give it to you…turn around.”

  75. John Feeny // August 18, 2009 at 4:34 pm –

    That made my day. Keep passing it on. Say a prayer for Bob Novack.

    White House Reveals Obama Is Bipolar, Has Entered Depressive Phase

  76. NEW POST UP…2:07 w/ no comment yet…see ya there…

  77. White House Reveals Obama Is Bipolar, Has Entered Depressive Phase


  78. TO:

    John Feeny // August 18, 2009 at 4:56 pm

    “Well, let me give it to you…turn around.”

    Are you quoting BaWRECK or Sinclair? Or both? LOL

  79. Come on people – lay off Dr. Orly. Who is she supposed to get to help? And who is going to pay for them? Who pays for her? The simple fact of the matter is that no high-priced lawyer will touch this issue on their own, and no sugar daddy has yet stepped forward to lay out the millions that would be needed to do this “right”. So, hoping not to be TOO rude – “put up or shut up”.

  80. DABIG, no definition of NBC holds water until the federal appellate court writes that definition, in a holding of a case dealing with determining that definition. (And when our founding fathers capitalized the letter “L” at the beginning of the word “Law” and the letter “N” at the beginning of the word “Nations,” leaving “t” small in between, this was because those words are nouns. They capitalized nouns. Stop focusing on the definition of NBC as having 2 (two) citizen parents. It does not mean that without the court.

  81. Carlyle, do you know whether you live in a state whose citizens enacted a law that requires the nominee for POTUS from the major political party to be Constitutionally eligible for the job in order to get his name on your state’s general election ballot? If you have this law, have you tried to get your state AG to enforce this law? As for Orly, you have no idea how much free and fabulous help she is offered. As the saying goes, ‘she does what she wants.’

  82. Bless you Carlyle, I couldn’t have said it better.

  83. citizenwells

    We will be assembling a dossier ( Nazi ring to it ) for each congressman.
    The earlier responses regarding Obama’s eligibility, the town hall/health care postures
    and other information will be collected to reveal the true nature of the politicians.
    We must make 2010 count.

  84. It’s not so simple as “lay off Dr. Orly, she’s trying her best”, her omission of critical groundwork lays precedent to later approaches.
    She wrote that if Obama were to

    “… produce his true and complete “original” birth certificate. So long as this form proves the Barack Hussein Obama’s status as a “natural born” citizen …”

    that this would stipulate his eligibility…however NO birth certificate based on his COLB and his testimony that Barack Sr. is his papa, could EVER make him a natural born citizen.

    We cannot cover Frank, Malcolm, the mailman…we are stuck with what Obama has said, Barack Sr. is dad, and thus he can NEVER be a natural born citizen.

    Allowing stipulation is right up Obama’s alley, he’s always getting his lawyers to try to get judges to take judicial note of bogosities. It’s a dangerous proposition, though she may mean well…or not?

  85. People – why do you get so perplexed at Orly’s statement: “… produce his true and complete “original” birth certificate. So long as this form proves the Barack Hussein Obama’s status as a “natural born” citizen …”?

    Everything you need is in there. If that document says BHOsr is his father than that proves he is not NBC. If it says FMD as father, SAD as mother, and actually dropped in HI, then he is NBC. The real, complete BC is the key.

    Who he says now his father is is irrelevant. We know he lies.

  86. Thank you so much Carlyle, for your comments about Orly. I will stand by her always.

  87. Pingback: Obama 1984 Orwellian articles at Citizen Wells, George Orwell predictor of Obama camp Thought Police Revisionist History and Two Minute Hate | Citizen WElls

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