Obama Occidental College records, Subpoenaed records, Obama ineligible, Gary Kreep, U.S. Justice Foundation, Barry Soetero, College lawyers, Stuart W. Rudnick of Musick, Peeler & Garrett, Fredric D. Woocher, Worldnetdaily.com, February 13, 2009

More evidence that Obama is hiding his past and is not
eligible to be president. From World Net Dailly,
February 13, 2009:
“‘Sanctions’ sought in eligibility case
President’s attorneys file motion demanding birth, college records be withheld from public”

“By Bob Unruh”

“A high-powered team of Los Angeles attorneys representing President Obama in his effort to keep his birth certificate, college records and passport documents concealed from the public has suggested there should be “monetary sanctions” against a lawyer whose clients have brought a complaint alleging Obama doesn’t qualify for the Oval Office under the Constitution’s demand for a “natural born” citizen in that post.

The suggestion came in an exchange of e-mails and documents in a case brought by former presidential candidate Alan Keyes and others in California. The case originally sought to have the state’s electors ordered to withhold their votes for Obama until his eligibility was established. Since his inauguration, it has been amended to seek a future requirement for a vetting process, in addition to the still-sought unveiling of Obama’s records.


In the case, being handled largely by Gary Kreep of the U.S. Justice Foundation, he recently subpoenaed the records documenting the attendance by Obama, or possibly the student when he was known as Barry Soetero, from Occidental College.

The lawyer for the college, Stuart W. Rudnick of Musick, Peeler & Garrett, urgently contacted Fredric D. Woocher of Strumwasser & Woocher.

“This firm is counsel to Occidental College. The College is in receipt of the enclosed subpoena that seeks certain information concerning President-Elect Barack Obama,” he wrote via fax. “Inasmuch as the subpoena appears to be valid on its face, the College will have no alternative but to comply with the subpoena absent a court order instructing otherwise.”

Within hours, Woocher contacted Kreep regarding the issue, telling him, “It will likely not surprise you to hear that President-elect Obama opposes the production of the requested records.
“In order to avoid the needless expense of our bringing and litigating a Motion to Quash the subpoena, I am writing to ask whether you would be willing to agree voluntarily to cancel or withdraw the subpoena…”

Woocher warned, “Please be advised, in particular, that in the event we are forced to file a motion to quash and we prevail in that motion, we will seek the full measure of monetary sanctions provided for in the Code of Civil Procedures.” ”

“”OBAMA has been inaugurated as the president of the United States. However, to properly assume such office, OBAMA must meet the qualifications specified in Article II, Section 1 of the United States Constitution for the Office of the President of the United States, which includes that he must be a ‘natural born’ citizen,” the amended complaint states.

“OBAMA has failed to demonstrate that he is a ‘natural born’ citizen. There have been a number of legal challenges before various state and federal courts regarding aspects of non-, lost, or dual citizenship concerning OBAMA. Those challenges, in and of themselves, demonstrate Petitioners’ argument that reasonable doubt exists as to his eligibility to serve as President of the United States.

“To avert a constitutional crisis which would certainly accrue after such an election through laborious legal challenges, this writ seeks to require SOS (Secretary of State) to verify the eligibility of a Presidential candidate prior to the candidate appearing on the California ballot. It is incumbent on the candidates to present the necessary documentation confirming his or her eligibility, but, to date, for this past election, OBAMA has failed to do so,” the complaint continues.

“An unprecedented and looming constitutional crisis awaits if a President elected by the popular vote and the electoral vote does not constitutionally qualify to serve in that capacity,” the case said. “In addition, if OBAMA is not a ‘natural born’ citizen and not eligible for presidency, OBAMA will be subject to the criminal provisions of the California Elections Code, stating, ‘Any person who files or submits for filing a nomination paper or declaration of candidacy knowing that it, or any part of it, has been made falsely, is punishable by a fine not exceeding one thousand dollars ($1,000) or by imprisonment in the state prison for 16 months or two or three years or by both the fine and imprisonment,'” the complaint states. ”

Read more here:


Thanks to commenter Canadian4Hillary for the heads up on this article.

89 responses to “Obama Occidental College records, Subpoenaed records, Obama ineligible, Gary Kreep, U.S. Justice Foundation, Barry Soetero, College lawyers, Stuart W. Rudnick of Musick, Peeler & Garrett, Fredric D. Woocher, Worldnetdaily.com, February 13, 2009

  1. I think that this is a form of obstruction of justice that Zero doesn’t want his birth certificate, college records, etc. to be shown to the public. I hope that since he is not complying with these lawsuits and not providing the documentation that is requested, that they should automatically have him removed from office, because it is an admission that he is not qualified. He is destroying our country and that burns me up. I am tired of his lies and getting away with fraud and many other crimes that he has committed. He is getting a free ride and it is not for the benefit of our country, but just him.

  2. Someone needs to send this to FOX, Glenn Beck, O’Reilly, Hannity, Greta. They need to let all of the American people know what a weasel they have as POTUS!

    When the heck are we going to WAKE UP from this nightmare?

  3. This is definitely obstruction of justice, threats, intimidation.
    Thug bastards.

  4. Considering the fact that he was not vetted, this being made public on WND is much BAD NEWS for Obama. Making his “covering up” public is melting down his PR barricade to the truth.

    Keep it up, Barack/Barry! The voices are only getting stronger. Your lawyer’s actions speak volumes for you. You lied when you said we would have a new “transparency” in Washington. You lied when you talked about a “level playing field”.

    We are not going away. More and more people that knew nothing of this are learning every day.

    For a while I was disenchanted, thinking that this issue would never be addressed. But it’s now clear to me that OUR relentlessness is paying off!

    It’s Barry that’s on a sinking ship. He is performing what I have termed a “Dick Cheney move” by trying to hide facts from the public.

    It’s a “Dick Cheney move” to hide a socialist agenda in a bailout package and pay back the people that got your elected.

    It’s a “Dick Cheney move” to smile smugly and talk about how bad the past administration was with secrecy and unethical behavior while using legal technicalities, personal connections, and vagueness to cover the facts of this, and many other matters.

    Seeing state reps on the Orly case is a big deal, in my opinion. It means we are getting out of the realm of being conspiracy theorists and into the realm of the everyday politician and citizen.

    Think about it. Big “O” is hiding what every other candidate freely gave out. The courts have not struck down these cases due to the arguments! They’ve struck them down on standing and technicalities! And, some cases have NOT been struck down.

    I’ve got hope, and it’s not from the imposter.

    So, the new motto is “Dick Cheney move”. Let them eat their own words.

  5. Canadian4Hillary

    CW, thanks for putting that article up so fast. I have been up all night watching the plane crash coverage, God Bless their souls.
    I was just surfing around when I found it, & came here first to post it. Also posted it on Larry Sinclair & at Gretawire.

    I got a reply on Greta, that the person thought it was just a rumour but now is seeing the light!!!

    Please post it all over, & email to everyone you know.

    What sane person spends this much time & money blocking documents from the public.

  6. Why did the college feel called upon to inform Woocher, I wonder? Why not just obey the subpoena?

    In any case, it sounds like a last-ditch threat to me. Methinks they know they’re in touble.

  7. Canadian4Hillary
    It would be interesting to see the passenger list from that plane. The first thing I thought was who was on it? Maybe I’m too cynical

  8. redneck sympathizer

    Will this Gary Kreep dig his heels in and get the docs? Does this mean another day in court?
    Surely,Glen Beck could at least cover the Keyes/Justice Foundation aspect of the story for God’s sake!!!

  9. HEY SPEEDY- Berg tried that one. SCOTUS jumped on it like stink on manure, and tossed it all right out their door.

  10. Redneck sympathiser- Beck is great, but he has a bad case of “FOX CONSTRAINT”, and if he doesn’t treat it with their medicine he might find himself sitting on their doorstep.

  11. Now more than ever we need to find the POE record that Obama’s mother generated when she returned with Lil Barry under her arm. This brings to mind another question to put with all the others; ndid she even register hyim with INS. or did she somehow skirt the US Customs. It probably wasn’t to difficult to do in those days. Perhaps she made some special requasts.

  12. This makes Nixon/Watergate look like a Dr. Suess story.

    Where the hell are the so called investigative reporters?

    With this much smoke there has to be a raging inferno somewhere.

    What are we being distracted from?

  13. I need to all get this word out about fining lawyers of clients wishing to check Obama’s documents as well as the Tennessee reps signing on. I’m going to call email press, etc. Hope you will too.

    I am definitely feeling for those brave souls in Tennessee taking heat for signing on with the Obama inquiry. They are true heros. I am very impressed by their courage. Bless them for it!

  14. Ancestry of Barack Obama
    1 Barack Hussein Obama II, U.S. Senator from Illinois, U.S. President from 2009, b. Kapiolani Medical Center, Honolulu, Hawaii, 4 Aug. 1961,
    m. at Trinity United Church of Christ, Chicago, 3 Oct. 1992
    Michelle LaVaughn Robinson, b. Chicago 17 Jan. 1964, dau. of Frasier Robinson and of Marian Shields. Further details of her ancestry can be found here.
    2 Barack Hussein Obama, Ph. D., b. Alego, Kenya [on the shores of Lake Victoria], … 1936, senior economist in the Kenyan Ministry of Finance, d. Nairobi, Kenya, … 1982, bur. Alego
    m. Maui, Hawaii, 2 Feb. 1961, div. filed Honolulu, Hawaii Jan. 1964
    3 S[tanley] Ann Dunham, b. Wichita, Kansas, 29 Nov. 1942, d. Straub Clinic, Honolulu, Hawaii, 7 Nov. 1995 [SSDI 535-40-8522]

    Did anyone see this info on ancestry of Barack Obama? Note his mothers SSN…can this be used to obtain information?

    Eagle…….on your post above. I was thinking the exact same thing. Another thought was how he might play this as a terrorist attack and that oh by the way we need to pass this stimulus now!

    CW have you thought of contacting Sen. Lindsay Graham or Sen Judd Gregg. After the frank disapproval that I witnessed on their faces last night on FOX maybe and by what they were saying, maybe they would be willing to jump on our bandwagon and fight for the republic of this great nation.

  15. CW I also posted yesterday about looking at my childrens birth certificates and they list a place for fathers name and place of birth either by state or foreign, not saying that he wouldn’t have lied on those forms, but has anyone checked this out? Maybe ask Orly about this.

  16. AP
    My guess is the next “terrorist” attack will be much bigger than this.

  17. HEY EAGLE- Here is one for you that goes along the same lines; When “Slick Willie” was our fearless leader, it is interesting to note that 23 people died under a little more than suspicious circumstances. They all had one thing in common; they had a little more than casual relationships with both HER HIGHNESS, and Slick Willie. Three of these people was notably RON BROWN, VINCE FOSTER, JIM MCDOUGAL Sadly 12 other innocent people had to die. Perhaps a little midnight tinkeritis with the airplane, Piece of cake. Vince Foster allegedly shot himself in the head then mysteriously got up and threw the weapon over twenty feet. WOW. Jim McDougal was suddenlygiven a shot of an alleged DIURETIC that he ALLEGEDLY needed. He died soon after the injection. The results of the autopsy were not allowed to be seen by the public.Later there was no evidence found of such a medical necessity. Stranger yet it was delivered to the jail where he was incarcerated by unmarked helicopter, at midnight. WOW special air delivery.?????? Guess what; All three had a world of knowledge about the Whitewater, and the S&L failure. The perpetrators think that they got away with something .In reality they like everyone on Earth ARE TERMINAL,and in reality they didn’t get away with anything. They will pay with their own lives, sooner or later. Nor did they fool anyone.

  18. oldsalt76
    Here’s some interesting reading along the same lines. You may want to visit my site too. It’s iratenation.com

    UPDATE: 12/20/08: Michael Connell Killed: VR Demands Full State And Federal Investigation

    Michael Connell, the Bush IT expert who has been directly implicated in the rigging of George Bush’s 2000 and 2004 elections, was killed last night when his single engine plane crashed three miles short of the Akron airport. Velvet Revolution (“VR”), a non-profit that has been investigating Mr. Connell’s activities for the past two years, can now reveal that a person close to Mr. Connell has recently been discussing with a VR investigator how Mr. Connell can tell all about his work for George Bush. Mr. Connell told a close associate that he was afraid that the George Bush and Dick Cheney would “throw [[him] under the bus.”

    A tipster close to the McCain campaign disclosed to VR in July that Mr. Connell’s life was in jeopardy and that Karl Rove had threatened him and his wife, Heather. VR’s attorney, Cliff Arnebeck, notified the United States Attorney General , Ohio law enforcement and the federal court about these threats and insisted that Mr. Connell be placed in protective custody. VR also told a close associate of Mr. Connell’s not to fly his plane because of another tip that the plane could be sabotaged. Mr. Connell, a very experienced pilot, has had to abandon at least two flights in the past two months because of suspicious problems with his plane. On December 18, 2008, Mr. Connell flew to a small airport outside of Washington DC to meet some people. It was on his return flight the next day that he crashed.

  19. CW Someone needs to inform Woocher if he seeks to to file a motion to quash the complaint it will be denied. Truth shall prevail. God Bless America.

  20. Eagle
    I couldn’t agree with you more, but I have a sneaking suspicion that Oevil will use this tragedy as a ploy to say that the “attacks” have already begun and if you don’t do it my way…….

    UGH! Can we please have some results soon? I don’t think I can take this crap anymore! I pray the truth comes out…SOON!

    God Bless the USA

  21. Hey CW and everyone

    I just received this email about a town hall mtg telephone conference. I was involved in another one like it a few nights ago. Anyways, I was thinking that we should all call in to this number and get in on this and maybe we can start asking some REAL questions. Please post this at Orly’s site too.
    Join me tonight for a special live tele-town hall with Congressman Eric Cantor and economist Steve Moore of The Wall Street Journal, for up-to-the-minute intelligence and details on the eve of Congress’s final vote on the Pelosi/Reid/Obama trillion dollar “Stimulus” boondoggle.

    There are two ways you can join us at 8:15 EST tonight for this interactive tele-town hall:

    1. The best way: Click “Reply” and email me your phone number by 1:00 PM EST, and Americans for Prosperity will call you at 8:15 PM tonight to join the call. This is the best way to make sure you are on the call tonight.

    2. Dial in directly at 1-888-356-3090 and, when prompted, enter conference number 12559. However, due to the enormous momentum you’ve given this campaign, we may exceed the capacity of our conference call system to accept incoming calls. ONLY the first 3,000 folks to dial in will be able to join us, which is why we strongly recommend option 1.

    Don’t let the talking heads tell you the “stimulus” battle is over. Both the House of Representatives and the U.S. Senate must now vote to approve or reject the final Pelosi/Reid/Obama trillion-dollar spending bill.

    The House has set their vote for early afternoon tomorrow. The Senate vote appears to be set for late tomorrow afternoon or early evening. That gives us 24 hours to keep up the pressure. We must keep fighting back, and turning up the heat on our elected officials.

    You’ve taken this fight to the center of the national stage, even when nobody thought we could make a difference. Our NoStimulus.com campaign is having a big impact, turning public opinion strongly against the Pelosi/Reid/Obama trillion-dollar debt and spending scheme.

    Already, our NoStimulus.com petition drive has 418,343 signers and the number is climbing by the hour! That’s right — last Friday at our news conference with Senator DeMint to turn in the initial round of petitions we were at 69,487 and one week later it’s 418,343 petition signers!

    Thank you for doing your part in this crucial battle, and please join us tonight for this special live tele-town hall with Rep. Eric Cantor, the Republican Whip and a stalwart defender of our free enterprise values, and economist Steve Moore of The Wall Street Journal editorial board.


    Tim Phillips

    President, Americans for Prosperity

    P.S. – Don’t forget: there are two ways you can join us tonight for this live tele-town hall! You can reply to this email by 1PM EST with your phone number and we’ll call you. Or, you can dial in directly at 1-888-356-3090 and, when prompted, enter conference number 12559 but we strongly recommend emailing us your telephone number.

  22. Let me get this right —


    Don’t these two law firms — the one for Occidental, and the one for the Mahdi Obama share the same address?

  23. Does anyone have an updated legal bill for this?

  24. All this is great, but what are the chances that any of the true docs about Obama are anywhere in existence any more? Now I guess if they have really been scrubbed/removed that there would be no reason for lawyers to try and block anything. I just have a hard time at this stage, believing anything is left since his minions have had years to sweep the path clean. I wish I had enough money to hire the best PI that money can buy to go find whatever may be left. Seems like some have tried this but no real results have shown up yet. We’d need someone who was willing to “borrow” documents that could be verified. I sure hope that something comes of this, but am having a hard time thinking that it will happen or that it will matter. Obama gets away with everything that is thrown at him. If something was going to show up or someone has the goods, why didn’t it get revealed during the campaign and save the country a really bad situation? Maybe I watch too many crime shows, but aren’t there ways to get this stuff by other means ? I am hoping but not counting on anything.

  25. It is time for all of us to email AND fax AND write AND call ….

    no, not OR … AND … that would mean four times as many messages than if you only did one …

    every single senator plus your one district representative.
    By now you should have all their contact info, but follow the link from here if you do not: http://www.mikehuckabee.com

    email: info@gop.gov for Republican National Party
    White House fax: 1-202-456-2461

    I’m not kidding, DO IT NOW!


    I suggest you simply say in bold capital letters as LARGE as possible:



    You work for us. Don’t ever forget it.
    And I am going to do whatever I can to make sure:


  26. texasdude and everyone else, anyone can file and serve a subpoena. This does not entitle the originator to the information sought. (I wish the lawyers bringing these cases explained more of the law to their eager audiences, rather than arguing their moral justification to obtain the information sought through these frivolous filings. Because every time they fail, the public becomes that much more cynical and hopeless; and every time I explain their work, I get pummeled with personal attacks, as if I have a vested interest in their failure!)

  27. jbjd —

    You have a very well written case, and shifting the burden to Obama to show that he has the right to issue orders to the military is brilliant.

    I hope you take that as personal. It is meant to be a compliment.

    I can not understand why you do not have a client with standing willing to file that case.

    In the meantime — all these other cases that you correctly point out errors with, and clearly do have the flaws in them, do have clients willing to file them — in fact, they INSIST on filing them.

  28. Sen. Gregg withdrew because (1) Obama’s chutzpah crossed the line and (2) Obama CANNOT put away his “birth certificate” issue.

    1. Here’s the chutzpah: The Republicans didn’t get their act together enough to challenge Obama for not being constitutionally qualified to be President as an Article 2 “natural born citizen” so Obama’s White House steals the census from the Commerce Department against the specific instructions of the constitution itself — “actual enumeration” under Article 1.

    2. Here’s the “birth certificate” issue: Since Obama’s earnest drive to convince the nation to weaken its economic strength through redistribution as well as weaken its national defense, COUPLED WITH HIS UNPRECEDENTED WHITE HOUSE TAKEOVER OF DECENNIAL CENSUS TAKING FROM THE COMMERCE DEPARTMENT, has confirmed the very threats to our Republic’s survival that the Constitution was designed to avert, it no longer is sustainable for the United States Supreme Court to refrain from exercising WHAT IS ITS ABSOLUTE CONSTITUTIONAL DUTY TO DEFEND THE NATION FROM UNLAWFUL USURPATION. The questions of Obama’s Kenyan birth and his father’s Kenyan/British citizenship (admitted on his own website) have been conflated by his sustained unwillingnes to supply his long form birth certificate now under seal, and compounded by his internet posting of a discredited ‘after-the-fact’ short form ‘certificate’. In the absence of these issues being acknowledged and addressed, IT IS MANIFEST THAT OBAMA REMAINS INELIGIBLE TO BE PRESIDENT UNDER ARTICLE 2 OF THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION. Being a 14th Amendment ‘citizen’ is not sufficient. A ‘President’ MUST BE an Article 2 ‘natural born citizen’ AS DEFINED BY THE FRAMERS’ INTENT.

  29. Ted, nice comment. I like it very much.

  30. oops didn’t mean to post the link twice. Sorry!

  31. wow
    almost there……

  32. when are we going to “take it to the streets??”

    on a separate , but related note,

    anyone see that firearm and ammunition sales are going through the roof, alice, to the moon!

    why is that? I may ask?

    why do you think it is?

  33. Governor deval patrick silent friend of bho is trying to close the borders around massahusetts by requiring tolls from conn,nh,ma,ri , vt which all border massachusetts and has this nazi like tatics to charge people who travel from state to state and buy goods from other bordering states, this guy has flipped his lid and is and was suppose to be in bho cabinet but when richardson got busted, bho went the next day to visit deval ,Wow, bascially keep it on the down low for now. Wow! this is true

  34. Da Verg,

    Arms and ammo sales going up? What does that mean?


    The true American Patriots of our great country by doing this are saying to soetoro – we do not trust you, your cabinet, your advisors, your porkulus bill, your in-the-pocket congressional bots, or anything remotely connected with you.

    The True American Patriots see a dark storm on the horizon, marching closer each day. They have learned from history that a well-armed population is all that stands between liberty/freedom and tyranny.

    The framers of our Constitution placed the Second Amendment to assure that the government is controlled by The People, not the other way around.

    The time is growing near. Eyes and ears open. Be ready to do your part to support and defend our republic.

    “When injustice becomes law, Revolution becomes duty.”

  35. Bob, thank you. I work very hard in the best interest of our country. To be technical, let me point out, the military Complaint I wrote does not shift the burden of proof to BO. It does one better; it shifts the burden to the Court. That’s what Declaratory Relief means. And this is why my Complaint is brilliant; because unlike every other case, Plaintiffs here not only allege BO is not a NBC, they don’t even ask the Court to order BO to produce any documents that would prove his legal status, one way or the other! Rather, they ask the court to issue a Declaratory Judgment as to whether he is. If the Court needs documents to do this, let the Court order these! Or, if the Court says, it lacks sufficient documentation on which to issue a Declaratory Judgment, guess what? Then how the hell can BO allege he has provided sufficient evidence to everyone else outside of the Court to ‘prove’ he is a NBC? Or, BO can move to dismiss based on one of his usual procedural objections. But can you imagine opposing a request by a military person facing deployment to a combat zone as to whether his CIC is a NBC, alleging he has no right to bring this case in the first place? (That’s what BO did in Berg’s first federal case.) This is a win-win-win case. And all of the lawyers bringing the other cases have seen this. I can only guess why none of them has filed this Complaint. (Before he disappeared again, Leo Donofrio agreed, only a military Plaintiff will have standing in federal court. He also asked Orly to retract her military Release.)

  36. Pingback: Tennessee lawmakers lend names to Obama citizenship lawsuit « Goodtimepolitics

  37. Bob, I meant to say, “Plaintiffs here not only don’t allege BO is not a NBC…”

  38. jbjd
    have you written complaint for people in CA and AZ and michigan on your website? link please?

    “he asked Orly to retract her military Release.)

    who is “he” BO or Donofrio, having hard time following your sentence

    also, even I can do this math

    789 billion divided by “2 millions jobs lost or ….umm….some contrived neat saying here that captures the minds of the idiots” equals

    400,000 dollars per job?!?!? Is this the new math?? What is that???? Come on, give me a break!! Revolution time people WAKE UP!!!!

    and get this, these jobs are for, another term coming look out, “shovel ready” (say what? shovel this manure is what I say) jobs. Jobs that will last how long? Well construction, maybe a year if you lucky. Wait there’s more, what’s BO going to do about ALL THE ENVIRONMENT permitting process?

    BS is what this it, it stimulates nothing, does nothing for the bottom line economy, and furthermore stick us with the bill. The stickit2us bill and marxist policies of obama-nation.

  39. http://logisticsmonster.com/

    I am cross referencing this from a blogger at America’s Right.

    The info continues to be disturbing and increasingly undeniable. I first read about the Trilateral Commission about a year ago and did not dismiss then. Judd’s withdrawal is one more compelling symptom.

  40. I have to stop reading to stick this post in.

    The most ObamaLovers are located and posting comments on http://www.huffingtonpost.com – and we need to open their eyes. There are many on the fence, those are the ones who can be swayed.

    It’s very simple. I’ve been doing this every single day and it’s been working. You just have to be very very careful not to sound like a Republican troll! (Actually I’m a lifelong Democrat who simply could not vote Dem for the first time last year!).

    Just go to the stimulus articles at the top, click.
    Then comment.
    You need to let them know that Obama went back on his campaign promise regarding health care. This is why they voted for him and he lied. He simply lied.

    Here is a suggested comment you could make – pretend to be a disenchanted liberal, OK? The idea is to educate them as well as make them mad at Obama and Congress:

    Here’s the suggested comment:

    Obama campaigned that we should have the same health care as he does, as Congress does and that we would have a choice between that or our own private health care.

    But the stimulus bill now says that we would have no choice but to use their government plan and it’s not the same as Congress at all. WTF? I want to have the CHOICE to have my own if I choose!!!

  41. This came from another blog:

    “What the hell is Pelois doing going to Italy to engage in those kind of talks. Her ass belongs back here in the states, in the House, representing her constituents. A congresswoman has NO AUTHORITY to be going overseas and engaging in diplomatic talks that should be the job of the Presidnt or the Secretary of State. ……”

    My thoughts:


    Yes, I too wonder why she is doing this. After all, she has a job to do, and being third in line for the presidency…………….WHOA, wait a minute, did I just say that? Could this be her realization that she may be very soon thrust into that unenviable position if soetoro is thrown out and Biden is disqualified because of the election fraud? Is Pelosi doing this to stay on top of things?

    Unbelievable. Twilight Zone.

    Stay tuned. We are about to go over the waterfall, and there’s nothing but sharp rocks below……………..

  42. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/first100days/2009/02/13/greggs-withdrawal-stirs-speculation-obamas-census-plan/

    This is important in light of a previous article highlighting the significance of the census as tied to voting patterns and district funding, ie. more centralized power in the WH.

  43. Pelosi rushed them all through the voting so she could go on a taxpayer paid trip to Italy.
    She will be talking a lot about climate change while there.

    Another reason why this stimulus bill was rushed through is because … get this … all 538 members of Congress go on vacation next week.

    Where’s that cheesecake? I’m needing some comfort food right about now.

  44. venice wrote:


    246-183 No Repubs and 7 Dems vote no.

    If your representative voted no, it would be a good idea to send him or her a note of thanks, thanking him or her for being a true voice of the people and for caring about our country. And that you will support them in the next election as long as they keep being your voice in Washington.

    These people supported us, we need to support them.

  45. OK, here’s my prediction and THIS MUST BE STOPPED.

    As soon as Congress returns from their much deserved vacation (poor things, such a stressful week for them, wasn’t it) and as soon as Pelosi returns from her trip to Italy we funded, they will start working on their next project — but watch how secretive it will be — they will try to eliminate the “natural born citizen” clause from the Constitution.

    And the wording will come directly from this … you can see it here, just scroll down a bit to see the wording. This is going to be really bad because those liberals will all stick up for it and it’s gonna be a big fight.

  46. pelosi will not ever be president, she perjured herself on the Barry certs-guilty for fraud.

    that ends that nightmare, like a train wreck

  47. On Glenn Beck now – New Hampshire is sick and tired of the Federal government doing things against the constitution. Introducing bill calling for states’ rights. Based on Jefferson and Madison. 8 states last week. 20 this week! (total)

    Go to http://www.nhliberty.org to see their resolution

    If your state is not yet doing this, perhaps send the link and the suggestion to your state lawmakers (senators, reps, governor).

    Reference: Glenn Beck Show on FOX cable network Mon-Fri 5pm EST

  48. Janet.
    Over my dead body.

  49. Janet, I think it would be a nice jester and while thanking them, also ask that entertain the idea of looking over all the research that proves that Obama is not eligible to be President. Since they are so outraged about the stimulus, maybe one or more of them would push for credentials. 3 0r 400,000 emails may do the thing this time, if they are slammed with them before the disgust wears off on this stimulus. Just wondering?

  50. JBJD
    You jump in when ever there is a strong wave of happenings going on. Last week you directed a comment at me in which you were COMPLETELY WRONG, and I believe a few others felt the same way. In your rhetoric towards me you alleged that I obtain my information via computer search. That is only a small part of a way that I have available to me with which I correlate some of the information for accuracy. I also have other sources some of which are rooted in law enforcement, some in various courts,and some with certain military organisations. I will not expand any further other than to say that I also carry a certification for TOP SECRET info. I was cleared in 1954, and have kept the clearance active for certain reasons outside of this discussion. In your rhetoric you used the word “jurisdiction” which implies that you have a connection to either a court system, or law enforcement. I wish at this point that I could tell you ALL about my background.
    Most of the data which I have in file IS fully verified, and accurate. My comments are designed to provoke unguarded statements from others which includes you, and you DID. One word you used told a lot. Perhaps instead of being so critical about our verbal exchanges on CW you will get in there and help us accomplish the mission which we have set out to do. Albeit with or without your imput we WILL be ultimately successful. You are obviously well grounded with an excellent command of grammer. We need people like you helping us not harrassing us. At present you come across as an Obama SUPPORTER, and invade the CW site whenever you think that it will cause disarray,and confusion. I am sure that as an enlightened person you are aware of Honest Abe’s famous words which relate to FOOLING people. Stop trying to fool people, come aboard and, bear a hand. We need skilled help.

  51. From MommaE blog radio:


    I just want to tell you that tonight’s show is on. There will be another SPECIAL GUEST’S tonight. Attorney Mario Apuzzo and Charles Kerchner will be the Guest’s to talk about their new Amended case against Obama!!

    All kinds of good things to talk about and it will be 90 minutes of hot topics, updates and fun. It should be a HOT, rocking show, as well as interesting.

    We will be discussing and explaining the new case, then Mr Apuzzo and Mr. Kerchner will take calls for the last 45 minutes . So please be courteous and call in, so as not to disappoint our Guests and make them think you have no questions, comments or just not interested in talking to them!! Remember they are doing this for us and for our Country, our Constitution and the swearing in of someone for President that is NOT eligible under Our Constitution to be President of the United States of America!

    Please post this on your web site, blogs or any blogs you are associated with or have access to and send to everyone in your address book.

    Link, schedule, call in number and times for the Show is below!


    Call In # 347-237-4870

    5:30 PM Pacific Time

    6:30 PM Mountain Time

    7:30 PM Central Time

    8:30 PM Eastern Time

    I hope to see you all there. There are 3 ways to listen to the show, they are as follows:

    1. When you get to the Show page if the show doesn’t immediately start playing for you,
    you can click on the radio on the right, minimize the page and listen while doing something else.

    2. You can enter the chat as a Guest and read what is being said while listening.

    3. You can register/log-in and chat while listening.

    The choice is yours.

    I hope to see you all there.


  52. jbjd-
    I forgot to mention in my above comment that there is another excellent hosting site it is called Contrarian Commentary. It is posted by a gentleman by the name of Andy Martin. He to is well grounded in the Obama goings on. He was at one time well acquainted with the goings on of the Chicago MOB. Andy is very articulate in his writings, and it is a pleasure to read what he writes. I don’t necessarily agree with him all the time but he ALWAYS has his facts straight. If you havn’t yet looked in on his site, just out of curiosity you should. (Contrarian Commentary.com)

  53. Michael Steele is saying now that they are grooming candidates for 2010. We need to find out who they are when it becomes public (I guess keep checking http://www.gop.com … or is it http://www.gop.gov ?

    Yes, it’s a great idea to thank those 7 democratic guys listed above for voting against the stimulus bill and also start presenting them with information re Obama’s illegitimacy.

    Please, though, no long messages – I’m telling you, they obviously don’t read. One paragraph, one simple idea per message or bulleted points – just give them 3 reasons why Obama is a usurper. And ask the question, “What are you going to do about it? You took an oath to uphold the Constitution.”

    In other words, end with a call to action.

    I am feeling very sad, are you?
    But we do have control over what we say and what we do to stop this avalanche from gathering even more snow and then destroying the people in the villages below.

  54. Oldsalt76, jbjd has been on Orlys site telling her how she sould file her cases. Shes beginning to reek of Obama .

  55. http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D96ARUR80&show_article=1

    kennedy is out

    there is a chance this bill will not make it

    stay tuned, the Senate is playing shennigans

  56. jbjd- I may owe you an apology. I just finished reading your comment regarding Declaratory Relief. You are DEAD ON. This is why about a month ago in one of my comments I too said that the COURTS NEEDED TO SUBPOENA his sealed documents at Hawaii Board of Health. They can OVERRIDE the PRIVACY ENCLOSURE LAW. That is where I have to stop. There is much more! All I am going to say is that the SCOTUS are committed, they will not change their predetermined denials. They are COMPELLED by certain people to act against the Constitution. As a result they are in this up to their eyebrows, and when the dam fractures,(and it will) they will be along with the rest facing criminal prosecution. This is far bigger than anyone imagines. It is the biggest hoax on the people of the US since 1776, and before it is over I seriously believe that there will be bloodshed. I personally believe that in the end it will require a Federal Grand Jury. Wouldn’t it be ironic if our SCOTUS ended up facing a Federal Grand Jury?

  57. http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5g1M3URxMffMGcUZEgrswCL6ntm7gD96ATTJ81

    let’s hope for a snow storm that he won’t make it, that is why they are stalling the vote

  58. DAVERG- Who the hell would ever want Pelosi, even for DOG CATCHER. I doubt if she would know which end of the dog”BARKS or BITES. I am sure that a little on the job training would quickly enlighten her.

  59. Pelosi will be bitten by a “big dog” on the ass before it is over.

  60. Janet
    Look for nothing short of a full fledged petition to Amend the Constitution. With the control that the Democrats now have they will certainly try. I once read that it takes at least 3/4 of all of our states to say “yes “to any amendment. It won’t happen! They can try all they want, but it WON’T HAPPEN!

  61. Jody, the threat of sanctions against these lawyers is not based on their trying to obtain documents about BO through the Courts. If achieving a chilling effect on future inquiries was all BO’s lawyers wanted to achieve, they could have sought sanctions long ago. Because most of these cases are rubbish. And this is the problem. These cases are all the same; and they are dismissed for the same reasons. Even the judges are getting fed up with these lawyers who clog up the court system based only on what they claim is the moral right to be there, absent a bona fide legal claim to be there.

    oldsalt76, I tend to jump in when I see that, emotion has overtaken reason, often enduring name-calling and insults to intervene. No matter; I do not derive my self-esteem from strangers on the internet. And, my motive is to educate. So, as long as some people read my analysis of how best to proceed to expose BO is not a NBC then, I will continue to post here. Besides, as anyone who has read my military Complaint can see, I wanted to include in the FACTS section comments from Congress to their constituents as to why they believed BO was a NBC, and I was able to find these comments in one source, CW’s Hall of Shame. For this, I am willing to re-visit his site and endure a sometimes hostile environment. (See, for example, comments from “joy,” above.)

  62. oldsalt76, BTW, I contacted Andy Martin when he was trying to pierce the privacy exclusion in HI’s public records law. He was arguing that, as the nominee for POTUS of the D Party and then, the man whose electors won the general election, BO was no longer a private citizen but a public historical figure. Therefore, his records should be available to the public. I urged him to use this argument, instead.

    BO had posted on his internet site, “Fight the Smears” a document entitled “Certification of Live Birth” from HI, in response to what he said were “rumors” about his citizenship. Thus, he was using this document as a tool to establish his legal status. But then, he incorrectly claimed this document was his “Official Birth Certificate.” Further, he stated, this photocopied document proved he was a “native citizen.” However, given HI law, this document proved no such thing. I told Mr. Martin, he should argue that BO should not be able to relinquish his privacy rights when it suits him and manipulate the truth to serve his own interests; and then get to shield himself from scrutiny under the umbrella of HI privacy laws. (Basically, this is a theory of unjust enrichment.)

    Like Orly, and Berg, and Leo; Mr. Martin ignored my suggestion, too. Anyway, HI courts refused to breach BO’s right to privacy.

  63. Hey guys, we Oklahomans need some signatures to get the “open carry” law passed. This will allow citizens to openly carry firearms without the hassles of a conceal carry permit.There’s only 6 other states in the Union that aren’t on the wagon here.

    Takes 5 seconds to read and sign the petition.

    It could help push your own state legislatures to push the law as well.

    Sign Petition

  64. jbjd what can we expect from the Apuzzo case against Congress and others, who will defend the respondents in such a case?

  65. Checking to see if I am “back in the fold” from moderation land….

  66. Did I say something offensive? Why am I being moderated?

  67. I have considered this site my “home base” for a long time for truth and fellowship with other patriots and is egregious to me to be moderated like I was when I first came on this site. You don’t have to print this but please put me back on your list.

  68. bob strauss, members of Congress are immune from suit alleging job-related misfeasance under the centuries old legal principle of Sovereign Immunity.

  69. SCOTUS needs to face a Federal Grand Jury.
    SCOTUS had no problem determining the
    hanging chads “election,” why are they
    having such difficulty in POTUS NBC
    Constitutional Crisis???!!! This is appalling!

  70. Does anyone know how to contact former Census Director, Bruce Chapman?

  71. kim
    some times the site acts up, i thought i was monitored too, but i wasn’t

    DAVERG- Who the hell would ever want Pelosi, even for DOG CATCHER. I doubt if she would know which end of the dog”BARKS or BITES. I am sure that a little on the job training would quickly enlighten her

    >>i wouldn’t even tan her skin to use as a saddle cloth to ride on my horses. Screw her. If i ever see her, she is going to get a carton full of eggs dumped on her botox body

    Senate is now waiting for Brown to show up, how long they going to give him???

  72. CW ,,i know everything been home base signing.What if Obamawants to sign documents with other countries and they dont trust him.Could they also sue him for proof?

  73. goodtimepolitics

    If nothing else makes you mad this will, tell me should we be mad if Obama does not have to show his records when he wants the government to have our Medical Records that is suppose to be between us and our doctors? Read this if you want to be mad all day today!

  74. Obama’s stealing the census from Congress has suddenly awaken and enraged the Republicans. Maybe this will arouse them as well to challenge Obama for stealing the Presidency itself. They surely know he is not an Article 2 “natural born citizen” (which is more than merely being a 14th Amendment “citizen”) by virtue of either Obama’s birth to a dad of Kenyan/British citizenship or birth in Kenya itself — as manifested by his unwillingness to supply his long form birth certificate now under seal.

  75. Is that what’s it’s going to take, another
    country challenging his eligibility and the
    laws he’s signing— this is truly a very sad
    day for America. Whatever it takes, it
    must be done and SOON.

  76. Thanks for posting the bit about our medical
    records. If I recall, HRC and SP both along
    with JMcCain submitted their full health
    records, but the “unchallenged one” only
    had a 1-page summary—where were the rest
    of his records?? Well, do not sign anything
    at your dr’s office that would allow them
    to send your records to the govt. for any
    reason. We all sign the HIPPA –they are
    NOT entitled to my info regardless.
    Let them try. Obama first, show yours!

  77. I believe he must resign, but of course he won’t. Taking down a presidency is a brick by brick process, you can’t just say your guilty please go home and wait for the trial. He must be publicly exposed in do time , most people in america have moved on and just think the economy is bad, justice is a slow grind, but when justice comes it comes swiftly

  78. Why is he trying to hide everything. because he does have something to hide. This man is nothing more than a neo marixst and the pelosi thugs are helping. If he refuses to show the original birthcertificate along with school records. he was born in kenya and received american funds to go to school on our dime. lets not give up the fight!!!!

  79. Pingback: Obama Threatens Keyes and other Eligibility Plaintiffs « Native and Natural Born Citizenship Explored

  80. Pingback: Obama birth certificate forgery, Obama corruption, Vivek Kundra, Yusuf Acar, forged documents, John Brennan, Passport security breach, Long form birth certificate forgery « Citizen Wells

  81. John Brennan also contributed 3500 bucks towards Barry’s campaign. The over whelming evidience about Brennan has been available for months.

  82. Obama and every Democrat will fight the release of any and all records that could prove Obama does not meet the qualifications as a natural born citizen. If and when it comes out he is not qualified it will utterly destroy the Democratic Party. They have signed on to him being legitimate and their whole agenda is dependent on him staying in office. Stand by for a horrific fight to keep him as president even if he is proved not to be a natural born citizen of the USA>

  83. My question is, someone please tell me how in the world was Obama even eligible to run? If he wasn’t eligible (which you would think would have been verified in advance) then why was he even allowed to run? Are we just so stupid that people would let him run, win the election & then think, “Oh, maybe we should check his creditial”? Really, why are we disputed this after-the-fact? Are we going to impeach him? Jail him for lying? What, what are we going to do because by now, there shouldn’t be anyone with any brain about them that doesn’t have any doubt what so ever that another lier got elected & this time…it’s the worse one yet! Way to go America!!

  84. This news just reveals how corrupt our political system is in allowing Obama continued presence in office illegally. Every executive order he has signed is worthless and has incriminated him each and every time he signed an order. He has always known he is ineligible to hold office and is probably legally insane for doing so. Regardless of his sanity those in power are legally bound to remove him from office immediately placing Biden as acting president.
    Anyone can enact citizen’s arrest and have Obama thrown in jail immediately! Why hasn’t someone done this?! Do it now!

  85. Pingback: Obama birth certificate forged by Brennan’s company Vivek Kundra Yusuf Acar et al, Whitehouse.gov image if not forged does not prove US birth, Team Arpaio Mike Zullo reveal forger? | Citizen WElls

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