“These are the times that try men’s souls. The summer soldier and
the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service
of their country; but he that stands now, deserves the love and
thanks of man and woman. Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered;
yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict,
the more glorious the triumph.” —Thomas Paine 1778
We
Are Watching
Congress
Citizen Wells Intro to WHY initiative
The last article revealed the responses that Dean Haskins received
from the Office of Senator Jim DeMint. This article reveals the
responses from Representative Sue Myrick’s office.
We are moving ahead with the “WHY” initiative to hold Congress
accountable now and moving forward. Dean Haskins has set up
Restore the Constitutional Republic under a .com for organizational
purposes and we are finalizing plans to challenge congressmen across
the nation now and henceforth. Dean Haskins, the Citizen Wells blog,
other internet websites, attorneys, businessmen, the military and
millions of Americans are united to uphold and defend the US
Constitution. We are determined to get answers from congressmen.
Why did they believe that Obama is eligible?
Why did no member of Congress challenge the Electoral votes?
Despite our many concerns about policies and actions such as the
so called stimulus bill, we are determined to uphold the US
Constitution and make Congress accountable. This effort will move
forward through the 2010 elections.
Millions of Americans were stunned as every institution in this
nation connected with the 2008 election, ignored the US
Constitution and pleas from masses of the public to vet Senator
Obama. Congressmen ignored their constituents, as if part of
some conspiracy to ensure that Obama got elected.
So we are asking WHY.
The obvious red flag that most people get, the one I am certain a
5th grader could understand is, if Obama was eligible, why did
Obama employ an army of attorneys and spend great sums of money
beginning with Philip Berg’s lawsuit in August 21, 2008, to avoid
proving his eligibility. All Obama had to do is what John McCain
did, provide Congress with a vault copy of his birth certificate,
i.e., a real birth certificate, not a record of a birth certificate
like Obama has tried to do.
If you’re not as smart as a fifth grader then consider the following:
Obama traveled to Pakistan in 1981 on an Indonesian passport.
Obama’s father was Kenyan, under British rule.
Obama became an Indonesian citizen.
There is no legal proof that Obama was born in Hawaii.
If Obama was born in Kenya, his mother did not meet the eligibility
requirements for Obama to be a natural born citizen.
Consider this letter from a Brigadier General:
Charles E. Jones
Brigadier General US Air Force, Retired
Lifetime subject to recall for active duty
Recipient of the Distinguished Service Medal (AF)
02.04.09
“We the People of the United States of America” are entitled to know
the legal qualifications of the President and Commander in Chief.
For the better good and National Security of “We the People of the
United States” and for Absolute Command of the Military Forces of the
United States, I whole heartedly support the efforts of Dr. Orly Taitz,
ESQ for taking legal action to determine whether or not Barack Hussein
Obama, aka Barry Soetoro, Citizen of Indonesia and possibly citizen
of Kenya, is eligible to become President of the United States and
Commander in Chief of the United States Armed Forces.
We were notified recently that 4 TN state representatives
have agreed to cooperate with Orly Taitz in her lawsuit.
Eric Swafford, Stacy Camfield, Glen Casada and
Frank Niceley have signed a document demanding Obama
produce his documents:
Dean Haskins and I have begun the process of contacting
congressmen and we started with Representative Sue Myrick
and Senator Jim DeMint. We have been discussing possible
reasons why so many senators were misinformed or apathetic.
Perhaps much of the information sent to them was filtered
or blocked by their aides. Regardless, we want answers.
Here is a comment received from Sue Myrick’s office:
From Sue Myrick’s office.
Polk, Andy :Andy.Polk@mail.house.gov
“ohhh- I understand it correctly based on US Supreme Court cases interpreting
what “natural born citizen” Constitutionally means. Had he not met the
definition, Chief Justice Roberts, the worlds leading Constitutional scholar,
would not have sworn him in because he would have violated his duty to uphold
the Constitution. You can argue with me all you want on this issue, but I can
do nothing for you on this point. The only thing you can do, if you feel so
strongly about Obama not being a citizen, is file a lawsuit in federal court.”
I recently called Sue Myrick’s office and after a conversation with her staff,
was informed that I should email her. Here is the email that was sent on
February 5, 2009:
“I am Mr. Wells of the Citizen Wells Blog, based out of NC. I have done extensive
research and covered the 2008 election process. I am also part of a group that is
evolving to uphold and save the US Constitution and rule of law.
I am in the forefront of a group of people that will be holding Congress accountable
now and through the 2010 election and beyond.
I have been in touch with Philip J berg and his assistant, Dr. Orly Taitz and her assistant,
Cort Wrotnowski, Lt Cols in the AF, business people and regular Americans that are
deeply concerned and care about this country. We are not going away. Our resolve is
strengthening.
I do not know where you obtained your information regarding the eligibility of Obama to
be president. There was an Orwellian like effort by the MSM and Obama camp to distort
the truth. If Obama had been eligible, he would not have employed an army of attornies
and spents thousands of dollars to avoid presenting his proof. McCain in contrast
provided a vault version of his birth certificate to Congress.
I was asked to do research for a documentary on Obama and the provision for natural
born citizen in the US Constitution. This was specifically done to present to Ron Paul.
Congressmen were notified prior to the election of the eligibility cloud surrounding
Obama. I posted some of the ludicrous responses that were received from some
senators and representatives in a US Constitution Hall of Shame on my blog.
I am not a conspiracy theorist. However, we are going to find out why no member
of congress took this issue seriously, why they ignored the people that put them
in office and why no one spoke up in Congress when the Electoral College votes
were certified.
Our team is contacting a senator from the southeast and we hope to meet with him
soon. We are going to get some straight answers and will do whatever is necessary
under the law to do so. I decided to write you (I just called your office) because
you represent my district and you seem to be a straight shooter.
This initiative is designed to get some straight answers now, but will build into
a general effort to hold congress accountable and remove from office in 2010
those politicians that have a selfish, irresponsible agenda.
I deeply care about this country.
Respectfully,
Mr. Wells
https://citizenwells.wordpress.com/”
I have received no response from Sue Myrick. I have recently
been trying to locate someone that knows her. It is a shame
isn’t it. It is so difficult to get the attention of our
congressmen. Well guess what. We are not going to stop until
we get their attention and that includes voting them out of
office if they continue to fail us. In fairness to Sue Myrick,
so far we have only gotten responses from her staff. Sooner
or later she will see our requests and sooner or later she
will have to respond.
If you have been frustrated by congressmen that have ignored
your pleas to examine Obama’s eligibility problems, take
comfort in the fact that Dean Haskin’s brother was heavily
involved in SC politics. However, as will become obvious soon,
we do not give up easily. We, on behalf of the American public,
demand straight answers and we intend to get them. All of this
correspondence will be recorded and all congressmen will be
accountable sooner or later. There will be a day of reckoning
at least by the 2010 elections.
This is going to be a nationwide effort. We will be asking for
volunteers and hope to have an organization for each state. If
you have the desire and the resolve, go to the Restore the
Constitutional Republic site (new .com) and check often. In the
forum, there is a place by state where you can interact and sign
up. We have another site set up to collect and gather information
about each congressmen. We will use this going forward as a
clearing house for all efforts to hold congressmen accountable.
Details will follow soon.
http://restoretheconstitutionalrepublic.com/
Continue to contact your congressmen as you want. One thing that
we are trying to do with the WHY intiative, is to notify
congressmen that we will meet with them or otherwise establish
a dialogue and we will speak on authority. Citizen Wells and
Dean Haskins are initially available. We will be contacting
Orly Taitz and others to form an expert panel to answer any
questions or challenges provided. Orly has been doing some
of this already.
I know that many are impatient and frustrated. As I have stated
on numerous occasions, these problems did not come about overnight
and will not go away overnight. However, each step that we take
brings us one step closer to a safer, more just country.
God bless.
Citizen WElls 
WHY wasn’t a resolution introdued for Senator Obama, like Senator McCain. Fair IS fair.
ALL of the ssenators voted on it–why didn’t they do the same reolution for Obama? That is the question. Parents in this letter is PLURAL–Obama had one parent (singular) that was a US citizen.
See it here:
http://leahy.senate.gov/press/200804/043008d.html
Put them on the defense.
“John McCain was born while his father was fulfilling his patriotic duty to his country. Even though they were not standing on American soil, his father’s uniform still proudly displayed the flag of this nation. John McCain and his family have a proven record of public service and sacrifice and I am proud to support this bipartisan resolution recognizing the fact that John McCain is a natural born citizen,” said Coburn.
Note the last statement… John McCain and his family have a proven record of public service and sacrifice…..John McCain is a natural born citizen.
Isn’t it funny how someone born of US citizens and generations of US citizens, on both sides of family, with such a record of patriotism to this nation would be questioned at all? Then on the other side, we have one who was born to ONE US citizen and has so much controversary surrounding everything he has ever done or been involved with…yet no one (politically) seems to question the FACT that he is not a natural born citizen? WTH is going on here?
Has this Coburn from OK been contacted with our info? Maybe he would be one that could do something? {just hoping}
The quote in my post above is taken from the site posted by queenofshina.
http://leahy.senate.gov/press/200804/043008d.html
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123431418276770899.html
Posted by: Vigilant
Feb 12, 02:06 AM (on American Thinker)
Would some legislator with a Republican name tag and with some hint of gonads in his makeup please stand up and shout from the highest roof tops:
THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES IS PURPOSEFULLY AND WITH FULL DELIBERATENESS DESTROYING OUR REPUBLIC!!
To highlight this and in protest, let all patriotic Americans stop what they are doing in place for five minutes of silence at precisely 12:15 PM on Monday, 16 February 2009, President’s Day … you remember, that’s the holiday that the liberals made up so that we would not have to celebrate Lincoln and Washington’s Birthday. BUSINESSES, AND BUSINESSMEN, JOIN IN.
ALL PATRIOTIC AMERICANS WILL STOP WHAT THEY ARE DOING IN PLACE AT PRECISELY 12:15 PM this coming Monday. Let all traffic stop, all pedestrians halt, all business cease operations to underscore our concerns for our Country. PLEASE PASS THIS ON.
Be vigilant. Be prepared. Be armed.
Off topic, but has anyone noticed gas prices are going up and up. Not a word from anyone. Just sayin’
My newly elected Congressman here in NorCalif is Tom McClintock. New to national politics but he has experience here in California (ran against Ahnold during the Gray Davis recall). And a fairly good guy.
He recently sent out an autodial phone message to all of his constituents regarding expressing the outrage over the stimulus, and asking us to respond with our feelings to his website. So I did just that.
And while sharing my disgust for this porkulus bill, I also asked to meet and talk with Tom at the earliest possible time about the potential crisis of the barry soetoro POTUS situation.
I have yet to hear from him or his office directly, but you can bet that I will be closely watching his actions and travel schedule, and I will be there when he comes back from DC to demand a personal audience with him. I want him to look me in the eye and tell me what he is doing to address this monumental tragedy.
We all need to do this with our elected officials. Everywhere they go, everytime they turn around, we are there. Time to end the begging, pleading, cajoling: “Oh please won’t you listen to me?”
Let’s all remember, they work for US.
NEWSBREAK-
Turn on C-Span3 to hear Repubs dicussing attempt of Whitehouse to power grab the Census Bureau.
From AP:
Then on the other side, we have one who was born to ONE US citizen and has so much controversary surrounding everything he has ever done or been involved with…yet no one (politically) seems to question the FACT that he is not a natural born citizen? WTH is going on here?
I have lost sleep, gained 10 pounds; so, now do I have injury and ‘standing’?
My only conclusion?? Every member of congress was threatened!!! Not with damage to their cities or constituents, but to their families–I’m sorry, but it is the only solution even remotely sensible.
Smoking Gun: Democrat Insider Says “Obama Has Secret Plan to Fund a Patronage System”
http://www.youtube.com/v/RGafMHsV4Ug&hl=en&fs=1“
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I believe the Leahey resolution was non binding, and I also believe that Senator McCain was not eligible.
IL RNC is meeting in Oak Brook, IL with M Steele as keynote 2/20. Can someone provide or help me obtain a flyer or brochure regarding NBC …WHY?… I can hand out to each attendee?
Non-binding resolutions are usually specific simple or concurrent resolutions that are not passed on to the president to be signed in to law.[2] These resolutions differ from pure concurrent resolutions (that are used for various procedural requests such as adjourning sessions) in that they are designed to formally express and document opinions, not initiate a process.
These resolutions offer a means for elected officials to publicly air the concerns of their constituents[3] and are closely followed by major media outlets. Additionally, these resolutions can be used to state the position of congress, showing a preview of how they will vote on future legislation and budget allocations.
They are alsoused for Consitutional issues–to agree or disagree–like this one did.
In fact, it really doesn’t matter if it was non-binding–the simple fact is they introduced the rosolution and voted on it. Obama must have been laughing the ENTIRE time. Ya think?
Sorry for the typos, my fingers, move way too fast! I just think this is a way to get the Senate to pay attention. Use their own resolutions against them. They should have to answer why Obama was NEVER checked out as they did McCain. Why the pass?
It’s time to write/fax/email our two senators and representative (it will take you 10 minutes, send the same one to all 3) and if you are feeling ambitious, choose 5 others from the list: contact info link from http://www.mikehuckabee.com
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Dear Elected Politician, Salary Paid By Constituents & Remember That Elections are Coming Up Again Soon:
Vote NO for the African American reparations bill to the ridiculous tune of 8 million dollars. I vote for ZERO dollars.
Please kill the Conyers bill if it hasn’t been killed already.
Reference: HR 40 IH 111th CONGRESS 1st Session
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Media Matters and other Obamateams encourage Obamakins to write to the media and their politicians constantly. That is also one of the ways we can make our voices heard, too.
CA Patriot wrote:
” … demand a personal audience with him. I want him to look me in the eye and tell me what he is doing to address this monumental tragedy.
We all need to do this with our elected officials. Everywhere they go, every time they turn around, we are there. Time to end the begging, pleading, cajoling: “Oh please won’t you listen to me?”
Let’s all remember, they work for US.”
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I am impressed. And motivated. What do you think, guys? Isn’t it time we stopped begging to be noticed and heard. Isn’t it time for a personal visit? Isn’t it time to find out when our politicians are in town and show up at their offices? Ask to be seen and (don’t make a scene) but if not, then hand a letter to one of their aides personally.
HEY!!! I just had a great idea!!! CDs!
You could mail or personally go and hand it over. The CD would be a video of what you would say to them if you could speak with them face to face!!! How effective would THAT be!
What I find of immense interest is the fact that Barack Obama traveled to Pakistan on an Indonesian passport while he was supposedly registered with the Selective Service System as an American citizen. It is important to know that in 1981 the United States government prohibited travel to Pakistan to U.S. citizens. If I broke as many laws as this guy has I would never get out of prison. You need to go to the following website there is a list of all of the evidence compiled there concerning Barrack Osama, which has been forwarded to Federal Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald, I believe that just occurred today February 12, 2009.
http://www.divine-way.com/forgery_evidences_sss_reg_colb_birth_cert_for_obama_impeachment.html
My family was forced to avail itself to the office of social services recently to get supplement food stamps. It is something I forestalled for as long as I could and I am not proud that it has come down to that. The reason I brought this up is to enlighten some that may not have experienced it or are just naive in their knowledge and that is that you are required by law to produce an original copy of your birth certificate, or a certified/notarized copy of your birth certificate to be considered eligible for food stamp assistance. Did you know that on Obama’s supposed Selective Service System registration card he didn’t even produce an I.D. to prove he was a citizen of the United States, that is not just improbable, it is required by law and if not given will result in not being registered.
Either way if he was a citizen of the U.S., which is unlikely seeing he was born in Kenya, or if he traveled to Pakistan in 1981 on an Indonesian passport, he is not eligible to be president for either violating Federal Law in 1981, or by being an Indonesian citizen apparently while he registered for the draft in 1981. You can go to this link to view the Selective Service System registration card that Obama allegedly filled out in 1981 with all of its discrepancies and illegalities.
http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/2008/11/exclusive_did_n.html
Look,Janet frequently mentions the write/fax/e-mail formula but why not send something a little more nonconventional and colorful to get their attention.What about using a large piece of foam-core to fold into a tri-board display.Use this large display to lay out the NBC case.Make it colorful and humorous five-pointer rebuttal.Use illustrations..etc. Be creative!
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20090212/D96A0U800.html
Obama plans brings bad news internationally.
CW —
The way to get to Sue Myrick is through her husband Ed — She is a cancer survivor.
But read the rather nasty quote from the Mecklenburg County Democrats:
“I think the next thing that people should look at in regards to Myrick, is her campaign’s use of her husband’s “advertising” firm. She funnels almost a quarter of a million dollars into his firm, Myrick/Gunter Advertising. Just look it up in the Yellow Pages either in print or on line. It is the only advertising firm that I know of (and I work in the industry) that has no business phone listed or any reference online, not even a website.”
Can someone (jbjd? maybe) explain this to me. WTH is Orly up to with these Tennessee congresspeople. STATE congressmen are irrelevant to the eligibility issue. They don’t provide any standing. So what? I would like to “hope” that she knows what she is doing. But it sure doesn’t look like it. Even worse, it may actually help reflect on all the rest of us as kooks.
Thanks Bob.
Carlyle.
State Reps are never irrelevant.
Many battles are psychological.
Orly does know what she’s doing and quite frankly she’s relentless–she grew up in the former Soviet Union. So she sees clearly what is going on.
maybe Issel can bundle his pending lawsuit with the eligibility issue?
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/first100days/2009/02/12/gop-threatens-legal-action-obama-plan-oversee-census/
magna carta wrote:
Look, Janet frequently mentions the write/fax/e-mail formula but why not send something a little more non-conventional and colorful to get their attention? What about using a large piece of foam-core to fold into a tri-board display.Use this large display to lay out the NBC case.Make it colorful and humorous five-pointer rebuttal.Use illustrations..etc. Be creative!
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Oh I absolutely love it! It brings me back to the days of attending school science fairs and helping my sons make their solar system display. And you know what? The world is actually at risk here. It’s time to stand out from the crowd.
Funny, but when I hear politicians say “We’ve gotten thousands of letters all running 9 to 1 against the stimulus bill” (and yet it passed), I wonder … is it getting old hat to them now? Is it just becoming a way of life, oh yeah, we get thousands …
It IS time to stand out. Send a trifold stand up display, like a mini bulletin board. Or deliver it, if you can.
How about sending them a video on a CD/DVD of yourself explaining how you feel in one minute?
How about a tape recording (again, keep it short).
How about sending a hand-made greeting card written in child’s handwriting:
“Please don’t bankrupt our country by overspending. I need a future.”
with a picture of a young child.
How about sending a photoshopped photo of Obama as a puppet on a string with the writing:
Are you following That One?
How about doing some of these as faxes so you won’t even have to spend the money on postage?
Obama supporters are going to be very disappointed when they hear this.
Apparently his big campaign promises of lowering taxes and getting more money into the peoples hands, will result in about….are you ready for this?…are you sitting down???
$13.00 per/week
Are you Obots still chanting his name?
Full Story
OK, here’s a good one.
Find a cartoon or photo of Pinocchio as a puppet on a string with the long wooden nose. Photoshop Obama’s head on it (with the long nose for lying).
Add a caption and mail it to your two senators and one representative.
That might get their attention.
We need to stand out from all the others.
What happened to his campaign promise that he repeated a million times that he wants us to have the same health insurance he does and that all the Washington politicians have?
Whatever happened to his promise to his OWN CHILDREN that he would give them a puppy if he won the election? Did he actually use his own children as a ploy for us to say “Aw, his kids will get a puppy if he wins. Aw.”
Don’t you just want to spit?
i have said all along that obama is a fraud and a fake, and Bush is Einstein compared to him. This is becoming more and more apparent and we are almost 4 weeks into this misadminstration. Here is yet another example of how ignorant BO is. He certainly doesn’t know the law here, and he doesn’t know the Constitution either.
President Obama clearly didn’t do his homework before ordering the suspension of military tribunals to try terrorist suspects. We have learned that even his own legal counsel admitted that Mr. Obama erred in discussing details about terrorism with families of victims last week, and that the administration was ignorant of a key point that terrorists exploit to their advantage. In his rush to fulfill a campaign promise to his more fervid anti-war supporters, the president’s legal oversights risk the disclosure of some highly classified information to terrorists.
Debra Burlingame, sister of Charles Burlingame III, the pilot of American Airlines Flight 77 that was flown into the Pentagon on 9/11, was present at last Friday’s White House meeting of families of terrorism victims. Her impression was that President Obama was saying the right words in general, but when it came to specifics he was uncertain, uninformed, and sometimes just plain mistaken. Ms. Burlingame is an attorney who has followed closely the legal aspects of the terrorism cases, and her detailed, probing questions were met with stammers, stares, and statements that betrayed an understanding of the law that was, she said, “flat out wrong.”
Case in point: the president’s knowledge of the role of the Classified Information Procedures Act or CIPA. This law governs the way in which classified information is used in trials. The Sixth Amendment guarantees defendants the right to confront their accusers and the evidence against them, but the government has an important interest in cases such as these in keeping sources and methods secret. Under CIPA rules, in cases where classified information is used, the government has the option of sharing the information with the defendant, or not using it.
The Bush administration sought to avoid this potential national security threat by resorting to other procedures in which 6th Amendment issues did not arise. But President Obama believes that the model for terrorism cases is the prosecution of the 1993 World Trade Center bombers. Of course a number of those plotters escaped justice (some were found later hiding in Saddam’s Iraq, but that’s another story). More important, because of the openness of that process, al Qaeda learned a great deal about how to do a much better job next time – and even the classified information from that trial was in Osama bin Laden’s hands within weeks.
The terrorists have learned a great deal about conducting legal guerrilla war, using rules like CIPA to their advantage. Notice that more and more terrorists are dismissing their appointed lawyers and representing themselves. This gives them direct access to the classified documents that will be used in evidence against them. In this way they can learn about U.S. intelligence sources and methods – how they were targeted, what information was collected, and who may have been the traitors in their midst. Even if the names of sources are omitted, for example someone who was present at a key planning meeting, the terrorist defendant will know enough about the circumstances to be able to narrow it down. After all, the terrorist is familiar with every aspect of the events; he knows much more about them than the intelligence community.
The alternative to handing over the secrets is for the government to not use the evidence in question. That creates the incongruous situation in which the defense wants to maximize the amount of evidence that implicates them, and the prosecution wants to minimize it. (Our legal system was not designed to accommodate defendants who welcome being put to death.) According to Ms. Burlingame, Obama’s answer to this conundrum was “there is no reason we have to give [the terrorists] everything.” Evidently the former editor of the Harvard Law Review seems to think that one of his powers as president is personally to pick and choose which constitutional rights apply to terror defendants and which do not. That’s the very thing they were criticizing President Bush for.
White House Counsel Greg Craig, often seen whispering in the president’s ear during question periods, admitted later to Ms. Burlingame that the chief executive was getting the facts of the law wrong during the discussion with the families. Craig asked her if CIPA covers a case in which terrorists defend themselves, noting that “this is something we hadn’t contemplated.” If nothing else, this admission of ignorance is more evidence that the decision to rush ahead with closing Guantanamo and shutting down the military tribunals was ill-conceived, poorly planned, and may ultimately be injurious to our national security. The president may talk a good game about “swift, certain justice,” but it is becoming clear that justice will not be swift, is highly uncertain, and in the end may not even be just.
Wells, you have to be a resident of NC to get Myrick to pay attention. See below. Want to make her and other congress persons, senators pay attention? We did this years ago, everyone send a brick to their congress people in DC. After 50 or so bricks to each one, they pay attention. Hard to move, store, etc. Paste your letter on the brick, wrap in bubble wrap, a inside out fed ex, et al shipping envelope and mail from post office.
Congresswoman Myrick:
As you know, the issue of Obama’s citizency has been questioned for over a year. Citizen Wells had emailed your office and you directly to see if you were aware of the concerns, law suit, et al. You have not responded, is there a reason? I firmly believe that Obama is not the president as he is not a natural born citizen. Too many stalls in having his “real” birth cert shown, too many searches for his birth cert without finding one, but ones found in other countries. We realize you are busy w/the bail out or fail out as I call it. But, if the truth be known regarding Obama, the fail out would be null and void. A poseur cannot sign a bill into law.
I was a poll watcher @ early voting @ UNCC for a week, the lies, bending over backwards, inappropriate behavior by judges & staff were amazing. They allowed (I did report & the docs were eventually 2 hrs later removed, but I have pictures). The state board of elections allowed college kids to vote w/using the college dorm as the address w/o anything but a letter from housing. Who knows how many voted absentee in their home town. But no one moves to show the fraud and thug acting that went on. I paid my dues, walked the mile, campaigned for you and many others so I know what I am talking about.
The original emails are below:
Dean Haskins and I have begun the process of contacting
congressmen and we started with Representative Sue Myrick
and Senator Jim DeMint. We have been discussing possible
reasons why so many senators were misinformed or apathetic.
Perhaps much of the information sent to them was filtered
or blocked by their aides. Regardless, we want answers.
Here is a comment received from Sue Myrick’s office:
From Sue Myrick’s office.
Polk, Andy :Andy.Polk@mail.house.gov
“ohhh- I understand it correctly based on US Supreme Court cases interpreting
what “natural born citizen” Constitutionally means. Had he not met the
definition, Chief Justice Roberts, the worlds leading Constitutional scholar,
would not have sworn him in because he would have violated his duty to uphold
the Constitution. You can argue with me all you want on this issue, but I can
do nothing for you on this point. The only thing you can do, if you feel so
strongly about Obama not being a citizen, is file a lawsuit in federal court.”
I recently called Sue Myrick’s office and after a conversation with her staff,
was informed that I should email her. Here is the email that was sent on
February 5, 2009:
“I am Mr. Wells of the Citizen Wells Blog, based out of NC. I have done extensive
research and covered the 2008 election process. I am also part of a group that is
evolving to uphold and save the US Constitution and rule of law.
I am in the forefront of a group of people that will be holding Congress accountable
now and through the 2010 election and beyond.
I have been in touch with Philip J berg and his assistant, Dr. Orly Taitz and her assistant,
Cort Wrotnowski, Lt Cols in the AF, business people and regular Americans that are
deeply concerned and care about this country. We are not going away. Our resolve is
strengthening.
I do not know where you obtained your information regarding the eligibility of Obama to
be president. There was an Orwellian like effort by the MSM and Obama camp to distort
the truth. If Obama had been eligible, he would not have employed an army of attornies
and spents thousands of dollars to avoid presenting his proof. McCain in contrast
provided a vault version of his birth certificate to Congress.
I was asked to do research for a documentary on Obama and the provision for natural
born citizen in the US Constitution. This was specifically done to present to Ron Paul.
Congressmen were notified prior to the election of the eligibility cloud surrounding
Obama. I posted some of the ludicrous responses that were received from some
senators and representatives in a US Constitution Hall of Shame on my blog.
I am not a conspiracy theorist. However, we are going to find out why no member
of congress took this issue seriously, why they ignored the people that put them
in office and why no one spoke up in Congress when the Electoral College votes
were certified.
Our team is contacting a senator from the southeast and we hope to meet with him
soon. We are going to get some straight answers and will do whatever is necessary
under the law to do so. I decided to write you (I just called your office) because
you represent my district and you seem to be a straight shooter.
This initiative is designed to get some straight answers now, but will build into
a general effort to hold congress accountable and remove from office in 2010
those politicians that have a selfish, irresponsible agenda.
I deeply care about this country.
Respectfully,
Mr. Wells
https://citizenwells.wordpress.com/“
I have received no response from Sue Myrick. I have recently
been trying to locate someone that knows her. It is a shame
isn’t it. It is so difficult to get the attention of our
congressmen. Well guess what. We are not going to stop until
we get their attention and that includes voting them out of
office if they continue to fail us. In fairness to Sue Myrick,
so far we have only gotten responses from her staff. Sooner
or later she will see our requests and sooner or later she
will have to respond.
If you have been frustrated by congressmen that have ignored
your pleas to examine Obama’s eligibility problems, take
comfort in the fact that Dean Haskin’s brother was heavily
involved in SC politics. However, as will become obvious soon,
we do not give up easily. We, on behalf of the American public,
demand straight answers and we intend to get them. All of this
correspondence will be recorded and all congressmen will be
accountable sooner or later. There will be a day of reckoning
at least by the 2010 elections.
This
Judy Frank….I literally starting LMAO at your comment posted above in response to mine, cuz I too have gained 10 pounds and was just thinking today…OMGosh look at me, I am so worried about this that I’m not getting any exercise except for running the kids to their destinations and my fingers getting a workout on the keyboard! LOL and talk about lack of sleep and possibly the need for anti-anxiety meds! Jeesh!
On another note, I was looking at my children’s birth certificates today and noticed where it lists father and place of birth, be it in state or foreign, and I was wondering what his daughters bc list for him on this. Not saying that he could of lied like saying he was born in Hawaii or anything, but has anyone thought of checking this out? Maybe, just maybe…you never know….?
Keep up the fight. God Bless America.
there is still a chance this bill won’t pass, read this very carefully and you will see why. all we need is one more, just one more……and if every before voted the same way
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29158817
I’ve known something was amiss for a long time in our school system. At least since I’ve left school, over 40 years ago. What I didn’t realize was that this spans party lines.
I’m sorry, but I don’t believe chairman O is clever enough to pull this off alone. His agenda happens to play into the hands of a much larger global agenda that has been at work for longer than he’s been around. He’s the patsy that will be remembered for this, but we’ve been asleep for more than just a season.
From the website
http://www.americandeception.com
“We have been conditioned to believe that those who attribute certain actions to conspiracy should not be taken seriously in regard to the particular issue at hand or, more importantly, any issue they may discuss in the future. The media has been highly successful in limiting discussion of important issues simply by rejecting out of hand any mention of the role of conspiracy or planning in the economic, social, and political transformation of the globe as a whole. Its continued success in controlling the news has had a devastating impact on the ability of the average citizen to know what is going on, which would enable us to participate in public policy or as elected officials. Conspiracy is nothing more than a fancy word for “planning” in which the citizens have deliberately been excluded from the early stages thereby leaving them in the dark as to the ultimate goal”
This is too slick and precise and targeted to be anything LESS than a conspiracy. But it isn’t for a liberal agenda or an Obama nation. It’s roots are deeper and more evil.
Watch this interview and then Pray……
May God help us all.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/first100days/2009/02/12/gop-threatens-legal-action-obama-plan-oversee-census/
More pressure from GOP.
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Dear People of Fox News,
I am writing to you because you are our last hope in MSM. We who are profoundly concerned about America and its government watch Fox news more than any other because we believe you have had the courage to broadcast more of what other net works have refused to broadcast. There is still one subject of major crisis to America you along with all other networks have failed to bring forward. It is the single most important subject to America today.
DOES OBAMA MEET THE CONSTITUTIONAL REQUIREMENTS TO BE PRESIDENT?
I AND MILLIONS LIKE ME BELIEVE HE IS A USURPER AND AMERICA IS NOW A TYRANNY INSTEAD OF AN AMERICAN REPUBLIC.
AS IT STANDS NOW, OBAMA HAS FAILED TO PROVE HE IS EVEN A CITIZEN, LET ALONE ELIGBLE TO BE PRESIDENT. THEREFORE, WE BELIEVE OBAMA IS AN IMPOSTER AND USURPER. THIS MEANS EVERY DIRECTIVE, BILL OR ORDER HE MAKES IS ILLEGAL AND CANNOT TO BE MADE INTO LAW. THIS MEANS THE SO CALLED STIMILULUS BILL AND ANY OTHER LAW OR BILL PASSED BY CONGRESS SINCE HE HAS TAKEN OFFICE IS ILLEGAL AND UNENFORCEABLE.
There are over 100 law suits challenging Obama’s eligibility. There are several legitimate groups organized to bring this to public attention. There are thousands of extremely well written articles about Obama’s ineligibility to be president. There are hundreds of web sites and millions of bloggers discussing this subject. The state of Oklahoma yesterday put a declaration to its Senate to formally state its sovereignty from the US Government because of Obama’s failure to qualify for presidency for voting (enclosed is the document that details Oklahoma’s position). This is the first step to secession. Several other states may do the same. You, being in the business of news, are probably more aware of these issues than I am. You have been contacted via letter, telephone calls, and e-mails asking you to please cover this story. Those of the public who actually did receive answers from you were told the law suits were dismissed and/or he does qualify. Others merely received hang ups from your staff. The main reason I am writing to you today is to ask you: Why you do not broadcast this story? It is the greatest scandal and threat to America since the Civil War! Even if many of the law suits have been dismissed, it is still a fact the lawsuits were filed. If silly Paris Hilton farts, the news media is all over it. We believe had the voting public been aware of this fact prior to the election he would not have won the election. We believe that voters who voted for him discover it now would not want him in office.
The so called President of the United States being sued on the basis of not being a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN in the Supreme courts and the facts –FACTS, I REPEAT—FACTS—OBAMA TO THIS DATE HAS NOT PRODUCED HIS VAULT COPY BIRTH CERTIFICATE AND OTHER REQUESTED DOCUMENTS AND HAS SPENT OVER $800,000 IN LEGAL FEES FIGHTING THE EVER GROWING LAW SUITS is totally ignored? THE GREAT SILENCE OF THE ENTIRE NEWS MEDIA IS CAUSE FOR DEEP PUBLIC SUSPICIAN. WHEN NOT EVEN FOX NEWS MENTIONS THIS BOILING CALDRON OF LAWYERS AND CITIZENS FIGHTING IN THE COURTS WITH ALL THEY GOT TO GET THIS IMPOSTER VETTED, SOMETHING IS VERY VERY WRONG. WHO IS CALLING THE SHOTS? WHY IS THE GREATEST STORY IN AMERICAN HISTORY SILENCED? SINCE WHEN CAN JOURNALISTS AND NEWS NETWORKS BE SO THOROUGHLY SILENCED THEY PRETEND THAT A USURPER IS PRESIDENT? SOMETHING IS VERY, VERY, WRONG! The continued silence of MSM makes the media an aider and abettor in the monstrous conspiracy and crime against America.
For God’s sake, this is the NATIONAL SECURITY OF AMERICA AND THE RIGHTS OF EVERY AMERICAN TO BE PROTECTED UNDER THE US CONSTITUTION THAT NO LONGER EXISTS. THE GREATEST NATIONAL CATASTROPHE HAS HAPPENED TO AMERICA, A USURPER IN THE WHITEHOUSE AND YOU MSM HAVE BECOME A SILENT COCONSPIRATOR WITH THE TRAITORS AND TREASONOUS GOVENRMENT. America is on the verge of a Revolution or Civil War because our current government is no longer a Republic.
ALL WE ARE ASKING YOU TO DO IS SIMPLY REPORT THE STORY. TELL THE VIEWERS ABOUT THE LAW SUITS. TELL AMERICANS BARRY SOTOERO HAS NOT PRODUCED HIS BIRTH CERTIFICATE AND MAY NOT BE A CITIZEN. WHY CAN’T YOU DO THAT?
Sincerely,
Therese Daniels
http://www.usapatriots-shout.blogspot.com
Enc; copy of Oklahoma’s Declaration of Sovereignty
cc; everyone who might be interested
Posted on every web site possible
usapatriots-shout
citizenwells.word.com
teamsharah.com
America’s Right
Texas Darlin,
Wherever
Da Verg,
I read carefully the article you mentioned and I didn’t see any hope of this not passing.
Eric
Eric
Hint , they need 60 senators…….
OMG! OMG! HuffPo is exploding — kool aid is shooting out of everyone’s ears! sugar sugar everywhere!
here’s another commenter quote by yet another of the KoolaidKids:
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“This is not a stimulous bill..30 million to save a mouse in Pelosi’s district does not create jobs..unless we now employ mice..
20 million for a dance school in Salt Lake City, admittedly by the mayor creates only 42 jobs..which means each job created costs over $550,000/job..What? Does that make sense? Is this what we’re putting ourselves and children in debt for? Are these Congressional people out of their minds?”
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Oh I can see you all smiling from here! WE didn’t have to do a thing! Obama, more precisely, Pelosi did it all by her little greedy socialist self. She turned her own liberals against her!!! ha ha ha LOL, this is so delicious, I’m going to have it for dinner! Don’t ya love it?
Gregg withdraws nomination for Commerce Secretary!!
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/first100days/2009/02/12/gregg-withdraws-nomination-commerce-secretary/
I hope that email i sent him last week worked, Please don’t accept the job millions are praying for you.
Da Verg,
They have 61, if one of the 3 stooges backs out they still have 60. We need 2 to back out and I don’t see that happening. I wish I were wrong.
Eric
So Obama nominates a Republican to look like he’s trying to be a uniter, but then takes away his powers (the census). Yeah, OK.
And where’s the puppy he promised his own kids?
I know what his problem is:
— He could get a black puppy or a white one but he can’t decide because he wants everyone to approve of his choice.
— He could get a pure breed or a mutt, but he can’t decide because he wants everyone to approve of his choice.
—- boy or girl?
— labradoodle or portuguese water dog?
—- OMG, OMG, when you don’t have a single thought of your own and you are merely a puppet with a wooden head, it is impossible to make a decision like this?
I just left a comment on Gretawire pertaining to their major coverage of all the lame things about Obama and ask Greta to investigate the bank activities in Sept 2008 , the money trail, Geo Soro’s ,Obama and those involved in this. I have received two replies back from other bloggers, maybe keeping the Blog going on this will incite Greta to get more involved. Try posting on Gretawire on your thoughts as a Usurper and maybe it will take off. Just Hoping.
http://gawker.com/5152639/judd-gregg-withdraws-because-he-doesnt-like-obama
What can one say.
http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TWSFP/2009/02/gregg_out_cites_census.asp
Another take on this circus.
Carlyle and everyone, I posted on CW about this TN suit yesterday. I will paraphrase here.
Satisfying ‘standing’ in Mandamus cases is not so difficult. It appears to me that, Orly conflates the position of these state reps with their satisfying standing to bring a Mandamus suit. But even ‘ordinary’ citizens could have such standing. In fact, the Plaintiffs in the Washington state case (Broe v. Reed) had standing to question the election, per WA law; yet, their Mandamus case failed, too, for reasons I explained above.
I discuss a lot of these issues with people who comment on my blog, http://jbjd.wordpress.com/
I have also attempted to clarify some of these issues on Orly’s blog but, she will not post my comments.
Ed Hale at Plains radio has announced that to post on the forums now, you must buy a membership for $10.00 per/month.
Looks like traffic has slowed down over there today quite a bit.
Wonder how that’s going to work out for him?
Great, FOX is right now talking about the 5 day waiting period / transparency Obama promised.
Obama’s response: Well, this is an emergency bill (the stimulus bill). Uh huh.
Politifact.com is keeping track of all his campaign promises and whether or not he’s keeping them.
Joy, I agree, blog on Gretawire—we need to
keep making our points heard. I have been
blogging there for quite a while.
Hint: I sew American flags…. get it?
We also need to blog on some others, too,
to try to make people start thinking that
there is, indeed, an Usurper in “our”
Oval Office.
Eric
they only have 60 now, only one more needs to back out.
Read where Gregg Judd did not vote due to being considered for Commerce job and preparing for confirmation. Is that right?
Carlyle: Read this on http://www.restoretheconstitutionalrepublic.com
Orly’s case involving the state legislators is a ploy. She is enticing the legislators to sign on in order to protect their respective states from executive orders and usurpation of powers by the liberal Dems. In return, she gets a case demanding Obama’s birth certificate. Sheer genius!!!
Da Verg,
I think you aren’t counting Chapadaquick Ed. If they need him, believe me those scum bags would wheel him in to vote, even if he was on life support. I’m hopping against hope that the three stooges will go out for dinner together and get lost coming back.
Eric
I guess I wasn’t clear in my question:
cw – I didn’t mean totally irrelevant, I meant irrelevant in terms of a law suit – that is what Orly is working on – not a PR campaign.
jbjd – I have heard your argument before in regards Mandamus – I don’t have the knowledge to either agree or dispute it – I was wondering specifically in regards “standing” for ANYTHING. I don’t see how state reps add anything to any standing argument – they are just more people – just citizens. I don’t understand how they are going to help anything Orly is doing. I have posted over there seeking same informaiton. My posts are just deleted. I guess they think I’m a filthy OBOT.
“Standing” is a term of art. You can look this up. So is Mandamus; my summary of the standard is certainly not my advocacy “argument.” The Courts that have already dismissed all of these Mandamus cases have done a pretty good job of spelling out Plaintiffs’ legal shortcomings. Look them up.
As for “standing,” generally, in any legal case, Plaintiffs must be able to establish that, they have a particularized interest in the outcome of the case. But each case is different and so, the elements of standing in each case are different. For example, to have standing in a medical malpractice suit, you would have to be the patient.
What people are missing in all of these legal cases is this. They want not only a court ‘ruling’ that BO is not a NBC but also a specific action taken as a result of this decision. I think this is a mistake in tactics. (Orly knee jerk opposition to my military Complaint focused on the fact that, I was not asking the Court to do anything other than render a Declaratory Judgment as to whether BO is a NBC. Worse, according to her, I wasn’t even asking the Court to Order him to produce specific documents.) Ask yourself, if any court, state or federal, rules BO is not a NBC, do you suppose our Congresspeople will still ignore this fact and allow him to remain for one more second in the White House? No; being ineligible to be POTUS means, he is criminally trespassing. He and his family will be escorted out of the building before the clerk enters the Order into the record, And, if BO appeals such a Court ruling, he will remain outside of the building, pending such an appeal.
So, to obtain such a ruling in either a state or federal court, Plaintiffs need only find a cause of action in which they have standing.
(You should re-visit my military Complaint, which was intended for federal court. It satisfies all of the objections BO entered in previous cases. If Orly had filed this BEFORE Congress certified the EC vote, as she promised, the question as to BO’s Constitutional eligibility for POTUS could have been settled. Again, I was not asking the Court to enjoin Congressional Certification; or Stay the inauguration. But does anyone suppose the Congress would have Certified the EC vote if a federal court judge Declared, BO is not a NBC?)
We have a new blog set up for the WHY initiative and going forward to hold
Congress accountable. We want this to be available for multiple internet sites and blogs
and willl be a central location for info on congressmen. We will be putting up more correspondence
with congressmen and letters and comments from the military.
I will post an article soon.
http://congresswatch.wordpress.com
New AOL poll:
Should the public be given a chance to review the stimulus bill before congress votes on it?
Vote here:
http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2009/02/12/hot-seat-want-to-review-the-stimulus-text/
jbjd —
The Keyes, Wylie, Robinson case in California is the one for which all of the subpoenas were prepared according the citations at the bottom of each instrument served.
There are very good lawyers handling that case in San Francisco. I know Orly is out front on the Keyes case, but there are other attorneys involved as well, and they are very competent.
Orly also has several other cases that she has been asked to handle for clients. I understand your arguments entirely, but each of her cases have a different set of circumstances, and a different set of attorneys working on it.
That is why I think arguments you have made are being lost in the shuffle. I think you might be writing about case “Y”, and it is understood as case “Z.” But, I’m an outsider, and not privy to all you know.
I find your case is crystal clear in its simplicity, but it needs a client.
Orly has a lot of clients to deal with, and many of them do not have a clue what they really need to do to win.
However, I see that the attorneys in the background working with the “American Independent Party” on behalf of it Presidential Candidate, Alan Keyes, appears to me to be acting with precision and focus.
The other cases that you are trying to explain I don’t a clue about, and I’ve stopped even trying to understand them, because there is one case where the plaintiff has particular standing appears to me to be making orderly progress, and that is Keyes v Bowen.
da verg,
Who has dropped out? Do you have a link?
Anyone can draft, file, and serve a Complaint; anyone can prepare and serve subpoenas; and anyone can post copies of these documents on a blog, and request and receive donations for her hard work. And she can do this all without having to explain anything.
No Mandamus case will survive a procedural challenge. Keyes v. Bowen is a Mandamus case. Therefore, Keyes v. Bowen will not survive a procedural challenge.
At least Berg ran with a version of my military Complaint, although he was laughed out of court because his Plaintiff was retired military and could not be said to face actual liability in the future. (I am simplifying here.) But he managed to get BO to submit an Opposition that confirmed what was in my military Complaint, that is, the strongest evidence BO has that he is legitimate is FactCheck, which I de-bunk in my Complaint.
Orly tried to pull that same stunt, insisting I write up a Complaint for a 77-year-old Plaintiff. (See a full chronology of our exchange on my blog.) She wasn’t laughed out of court because unlike Berg, she never filed the Complaint.
Weeks after she has promised to file my military Complaint, she tried to justify her failure to file by making some pretense about caring so much about the military Plaintiffs, she wanted to ensure they would not get into trouble for filing this. She claimed to be in touch with people at the “Pentagon.” I will bet you lay people had no idea that by trying to ensure in advance an otherwise appropriate military Plaintiff faced no liability for filing this Complaint seeking Declaratory Relief; that she was sabotaging the case even before it was filed, guaranteeing a Motion to Dismiss. Why?
Because her Plaintiffs had signed a Release saying, they would disobey orders and, expected to be tried for treason. Again, I did not allege this in my military Complaint. I tried to get her to change this; even Leo Donofrio weighed in against her Release. So, now, she was trying to get the “Pentagon” to absolve these military who would become Plaintiffs, in advance. But the federal court is not authorized to give advisory opinions. And where a Plaintiff is assured he faces no liability in the future for the conflict between obeying orders and upholding the Constitution, there is no longer a “controversy” before the Court. This means, she would be asking the Court to issue an advisory opinion, only. And the case would be tossed for lack of jurisdiction.
Enough.
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adding rss feed from congresswatch to iratenation.com Hope it helps
Why do we obey laws? Back in the wild west they would simply gather up the boys and horses and deal with the frauds and cheats and liars, today we have gone soft. We all should be storming the capital but our laws tell us to let justice prevail. When we are all are bankrupt,jobless,penniless, thats what obama wants us to be dependent on the government and all go to the poor house , We have to many smart people in the usa not to expose this fraud but the phony journalist won’t do their jobs, So saddle up soon!!
Thanks Eagle.
Eric re 3 stooges comment:
woo woo woo woo woo woo woo
if one of them returns with two poked out eyes, we’ll know what happened.
http://therealbarackobama.wordpress.com/
The “unitary executive” Obama, the keeper of “state secrets”.
This needs to go viral to all Americans!!
http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/02/think-something-was-fishy-about.html
Please send it to everyone found it from Orlys site!
Truthbetold,
We obey laws because it causes order and not chaos and because obedience to law does not harm us or our neighbor.
Also, we all have a skewed view of the Wild West. Many things are not really what it was like as taught in movies or even history. Yes, there were lawbreakers and always have been. It’s evident throughout history. So you also have to study time frames and look for the truth.
For example, in Texas, there was a time when many people from other states came and wanted to come to Texas to teach the Bible, reading, writing, etc. Back in a certain time period, there was a huge push against illiteracy going on I know in Texas. Of course, in other states too. But the government was almost begging people to come to TX because it needed more people. It just didn’t have enough. Some of my ancestors did this, coming from TN, SC, etc.
Also, Truth, for anyone who had a farm and if someone came up wanting to steal from them, they had a right to self-defense, the same way it is today. This still happens. But that still controls the aspect of having a chaotic society. You have to have laws to protect yourself and others. On the other hand, if no one ever broke a law, there wouldn’t be a reason to have a law. Do you understand what I’m saying? Why have a law if something doesn’t ever happen in the first place? Like if no one ever stole anything, why have a law against it? Of course, this is not the case because people do steal and always have stolen.
So we must have laws to protect ourselves and others. We’re all supposed to be loving our neighbor as ourself anyway and not wishing any harm to come upon them like we would wish for ourselves. People used to know this. It used to be practiced.
Truth, if you ever get a chance, go and read some genealogy stuff at places like TNGenWeb Project, etc. I have read old letters in how people were treated back then. You’ll see that we have forgotten how to love our neighbor, even ourselves.
This is no joke, Truth. There was a time in our history where like if a man who owned a farm had taken ill, his neighbors would come up for nothing, no pay, and work his land for him, then bring him and his family food. Do we see this today? Then when he was well, and if it happened to his neighbor, he and his family would do the same. But see, we’ve all forgotten the aspect of loving your neighbor as yourself, and we have a long, long way to go before we get back to that teaching. Basically this is how we’re supposed to be.
Janet,
Larry with two poked out eyes and Curly with a frying pan glued to his head. Think we could get that lucky.
Eric
So now Senator Judd Gregg can vote with the Republicans against the stimulus bill…if only we could get one of the RINOs back or peel off a Dem or two…
Citizen Wells, did you do something different w/this site? It doesn’t pass the filter anymore at work and at home I am getting moderated like a newbie…
War is coming. Get prepared. For starters:
1. Prepare an evacuation plan.
2. Let friends and family know where to meet in the event all hell breaks loose.
3. Stock up on ammunition and firearms.
4. Become an NRA member for communication and other benefits.
5. Get enough supplies for 4 months worth of emergency care and food.
6. Get more active in local church functions for community support.
7. Work on arranging alternative communications, including mail and amateur radio.
8. Join the Committees of Safety and participate in weekly meetings: http://www.committeesofsafety.org/
9. Pray and pray often.
10. Get actively involved in local and state governments; contact your local representatives.
11. Wait for the signs from leaders of the movement.
Jeff M,
1. Who are the leaders of the movement?
2. When?
Janet,
1. The leaders are surfacing. It’s merely a matter of timing when this information becomes public.
2. I don’t know when. But I would assume the U.S. will be in full combat no later than the end of 2009 at this rate. It really depends on economic factors. Maybe longer, maybe shorter.
venice / eric
with gregg back, that won’t help much, but no it’s not kenendy, he voted last time and will probably vote again. see my link above very carefully. I don’t want to post it publicly, but it looks like that only have 60 votes, depending on who shows up and who doesn’t.
BTW that sell out Spector put in 6 billion for his own pet project to a health program, and everyone knows he has cancer. I guess he’s watching out for his own best self interests, to say the least .
da verg,
Let’s look at just how corrupt Mr. Spector is. He was involved in the JFK assassination. He has stolen millions upon millions from his own state, and he is one of the most corrupt politicians in Washington.
If you don’t believe me, just call his office and have him explain the 220/I-99 financial fiasco.
“The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government — lest it come to dominate our lives and interests.”
Patrick Henry
jbjd —
Everything you say is correct. I am not saying anything different, except one thing: in the Keyes v Bowen case, for every single election that the California Secretary of State has participated in, that office conducted its business differently from this election.
That lawsuit merely asks the court to re-establish the correct procedure.
Hi all!! Holy smokes look at this!!
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OBAMA WATCH CENTRAL
‘Sanctions’ sought in eligibility case
President’s attorneys file motion demanding birth, college records be withheld from public
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Posted: February 13, 2009
12:15 am Eastern
By Bob Unruh
© 2009 WorldNetDaily
A high-powered team of Los Angeles attorneys representing President Obama in his effort to keep his birth certificate, college records and passport documents concealed from the public has suggested there should be “monetary sanctions” against a lawyer whose clients have brought a complaint alleging Obama doesn’t qualify for the Oval Office under the Constitution’s demand for a “natural born” citizen in that post.
The suggestion came in an exchange of e-mails and documents in a case brought by former presidential candidate Alan Keyes and others in California. The case originally sought to have the state’s electors ordered to withhold their votes for Obama until his eligibility was established. Since his inauguration, it has been amended to seek a future requirement for a vetting process, in addition to the still-sought unveiling of Obama’s records.
In the case, being handled largely by Gary Kreep of the U.S. Justice Foundation, he recently subpoenaed the records documenting the attendance by Obama, or possibly the student when he was known as Barry Soetero, from Occidental College.
The lawyer for the college, Stuart W. Rudnick of Musick, Peeler & Garrett, urgently contacted Fredric D. Woocher of Strumwasser & Woocher.
“This firm is counsel to Occidental College. The College is in receipt of the enclosed subpoena that seeks certain information concerning President-Elect Barack Obama,” he wrote via fax. “Inasmuch as the subpoena appears to be valid on its face, the College will have no alternative but to comply with the subpoena absent a court order instructing otherwise.”
Within hours, Woocher contacted Kreep regarding the issue, telling him, “It will likely not surprise you to hear that President-elect Obama opposes the production of the requested records.
(Story continues below)
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=88746
Can someone post it at Dr Orly’s , i dont have any acct there.
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Thanks da verg,
I concur with you. What should not be publicized should remain so.
Urgent !!! Who is goning to protect the roads and bridges projects!!!! Obama’s loyal security force. He will probably hire 20,000 or so to start and make it grow, He must be stopped!!! This is national security at risk !! The youtube video of him saying about his security force must be posted everywhere
Barack Obama II knew he could not pass an eligibility investigation: He rejected using public funding when he told the voters and his fellow candidates, John McCain and others, he would limit himself to public funding. He found FEC must verify candidate’s eligibility to participate in public funding.
Kendee // February 12, 2009 at 12:25 pm
Smoking Gun: Democrat Insider Says “Obama Has Secret Plan to Fund a Patronage System”
This is some scary stuff! Did anyone here this talk radio bit?
Canadian4Hillary
Orly Taitz is one of the attorneys they are trying to hit with sanctions.
This is terrible!!!
Has anyone thought of contacting Sen. Lindsey Graham? He was on Greta last night and is completely disgusted with this stimulus bill…he stated that and it was also written all over his face. He said it is an embarrassment. He stated that Republicans aren’t even allowed to see the bill and they are supposed to vote on it today. He seemed frustrated enough that I was thinking hmmm…..maybe if he was contacted regarding the eligibility issue from a number of us patriots, CW, and Orly that he may talk? {just hoping}
Also has anyone approached Sen. Gregg regarding eligibility? He withdrew his name cuz he didn’t want to be part of BHO scandulous administration.
Kim.
Great Patrick Henry quote.
EVERYBODY- Now Obama’s high power legal team is trying to CREAT ELEGISLATION (they think they are fedseral lawmakers) to keep Obama’s records locked down. They want to make a federal law that will impose sanctions against any lawyer who tries to sue Obama in regard to the INELIGIBILITY issue will pay for his efforts by having sanctions placed against him/her.
First of all it is important to remember that these lawyers are NOT FEDERAL LAWMAKERS even though they seem to fancy themselves as such. To impose sanctions against any lawyer for representing the interests of his client is to so restrict the lawyer via the courts so that he cannot adequately do the job that he was hired to do. This takes away his RIGHTS under the CONSTITUTION, and now what needs to happen ;is thousands of US lawyers should band together and file a class action against the legal entities who are trying to impose these sanctions. It will be necessary to seek a PERMANENT injunction against the legal entities. This story should be placed in front of every practicing attorney in the US because if the sanctions are sucessful it will effect every liscensed attorney in the US. You need to move on this one ,or there is a probability that you will be severly restricted in your practice. CLASS ACTION! FEDERAL COURT
oldsalt76 is correct and I just updated my blog on the subject and have the source there! Thanks citizenwells for keeping this subject in people’s minds and they will stand up and start contacting their congressmen demanding action!
My first comment is in regard to the legal entities who represent Obama. Now we are witness to the exact extent to which they are going to attempt to carry this. They CANNOT LEGISLATE LAW. However given the status of the SCOTUS, and the lower courts there is a strong possibility that they will be permitted to DICTATE NEW LAW and bypass legislature. This is indicative of what is happening and it is NOT GOOD.
NOW is the EXACT time to be contacting your state Senators, then pray that he has the gut fortitude to say NO to the BASTARDS who believe that they are GOD. Before this is over we are going to face something that will make 1776 seem like childs play. Think about it hard!!
CW has a new post up
https://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2009/02/13/obama-occidental-college-records-subpoenaed-records-obama-ineligible-gary-kreep-us-justice-foundation-barry-soetero-college-lawyers-stuart-w-rudnick-of-musick-peeler-garrett-fredric/#comment-19525
Did anyone watch Obama at Caterpillar. If you did then you heard the same thing I did. He PROMISED them that there was going to be 400,000 new jobs. He cleverly walked around “WHEN”. In the interim while everyone is waiting for his promised job at Caterpillar he and his family will die of starvation. Obama will NOT be able to produce 400,000 jobs. The companies who do the hiring are the people who determine the number of people that they need. Nor do they necessarily hire unskilled labor who the President tries to ram down their throat. Companies like Caterpillar need experienced assembly people,who know a screwdriver from a pair of pliers,they need people who know electricity from water, and most of all they need people who will show up on time everyday. In addition to all of this they need college degreed people to do their design and testing work, not an unskilled laborer. They need certified machinists, who can read prints, and set up their respective machines. Not unskilled laborers. Obama doesn’t understand this. He thinks that unskilled labor can do all of this work. HE IS OUT OF HIS MIND; THAT IS IF HE HAS ONE TO BEGIN WITH. He is a danger to our industrial base because he thinks that he is going to ram a whole lot of unskilled labor down their throat,under the protection of ORGANISED LABOR. Organised labor is bad enough, but to use this entity to force unskilled people into skilled jobs is certain death for our companies. Again he is out of his mind. The nincompoops who voted for him will be feeling the pain of their own stupidity very soon now.
I wish that someone would try to get Janet’s attention. I have bben asking her to give me a call at (260) 747 3042 it is VERY IMPORTANT to our common cause.
Sen. Gregg withdrew because (1) Obama’s chutzpah crossed the line and (2) Obama CANNOT put away his “birth certificate” issue.
1. Here’s the chutzpah: The Republicans didn’t get their act together enough to challenge Obama for not being constitutionally qualified to be President as an Article 2 “natural born citizen” so Obama’s White House steals the census from the Commerce Department against the specific instructions of the constitution itself — “actual enumeration” under Article 1.
2. Here’s the “birth certificate” issue: Since Obama’s earnest drive to convince the nation to weaken its economic strength through redistribution as well as weaken its national defense, COUPLED WITH HIS UNPRECEDENTED WHITE HOUSE TAKEOVER OF DECENNIAL CENSUS TAKING FROM THE COMMERCE DEPARTMENT, has confirmed the very threats to our Republic’s survival that the Constitution was designed to avert, it no longer is sustainable for the United States Supreme Court to refrain from exercising WHAT IS ITS ABSOLUTE CONSTITUTIONAL DUTY TO DEFEND THE NATION FROM UNLAWFUL USURPATION. The questions of Obama’s Kenyan birth and his father’s Kenyan/British citizenship (admitted on his own website) have been conflated by his sustained unwillingnes to supply his long form birth certificate now under seal, and compounded by his internet posting of a discredited ‘after-the-fact’ short form ‘certificate’. In the absence of these issues being acknowledged and addressed, IT IS MANIFEST THAT OBAMA REMAINS INELIGIBLE TO BE PRESIDENT UNDER ARTICLE 2 OF THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION. Being a 14th Amendment ‘citizen’ is not sufficient. A ‘President’ MUST BE an Article 2 ‘natural born citizen’ AS DEFINED BY THE FRAMERS’ INTENT.
How other than a subpoena can the records
at Occidental College be obtained?
Maddie.. I now understand the academic records are private and business records are public or accessible. Maybe since he is now a public figure, FIOA.
Obama’s stealing the census from Congress has suddenly awaken and enraged the Republicans. Maybe this will arouse them as well to challenge Obama for stealing the Presidency itself. They surely know he is not an Article 2 “natural born citizen” (which is more than merely being a 14th Amendment “citizen”) by virtue of either Obama’s birth to a dad of Kenyan/British citizenship or birth in Kenya itself — as manifested by his unwillingness to supply his long form birth certificate now under seal.
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