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Cornell law professor, Obama eligibility, William A. Jacobson, Evidence must be reviewed, Birth certificate, Natural born citizen Status

Cornell law professor, Obama eligibility, William A. Jacobson, Evidence must be reviewed, Birth certificate, Natural born citizen Status

“Why has Obama, for over 2 years, employed numerous private and government attorneys to avoid presenting a legitimate birth certificate and college records?”…Citizen Wells and millions of concerned Americans

I would like to thank William A. Jacobson, Associate Clinical Professor, Cornell Law School, for an excellent article on the Obama eligibility controversies and for allowing my comment on his blog.

“There is a bizarre intellectual dance taking place around the topic of Barack Obama’s birthplace. 

The world has been artificially divided into “Birthers” and “anti-Birthers” when in fact I suspect a large percentage or even majority of the population is neither and simply wants all the evidence released so that we can move beyond the issue.  For most people, who have had to show their own birth certificates at various points in their lives, the notion that a presidential candidate should release his or her birth certificate to prove qualification for office reflects neither pro- nor anti-Obama sentiment, but a “what’s the big deal?” attitude.

It also seems that the supposed intellectual poles have been reversed.

People who supposedly are irrational and driven by hatred demand to see the evidence.  People who supposedly are rational and driven by dispassionate intellect demand that the evidence not be seen.

Isn’t this the exact opposite of what should take place?  Or have the labels been misapplied?

We can push and probe as to George W. Bush’s military record even though most of the claims made clearly were crank and politically motivated (and based on forged documents).  We can lament that 35% of Democrats as of May 2007 still believed George W. Bush knew of the 9/11 attacks in advance, or that Truthers still claim 9/11 was an inside government job, even though we have had commissions and investigations which prove otherwise.

We can deal with accusations of John McCain’s alleged misconduct during imprisonment even though such suggestions were beyond the pale, and also questions as to whether McCain’s birth in the Panama Canal Zone disqualified him from the highest office in the land:

The Senate has unanimously declared John McCain a natural-born citizen, eligible to be president of the United States….”

“Why isn’t everyone who believes the “Birthers” to be driven by hatred and racism, and motivated by politics, doing what Obama’s family friend and the new Democratic Governor of Hawaii wants to do, rebut and rebuke with the best evidence?

I think a large part of this is the fear of being labeled a “Birther,” which is the functional equivalent of being called a “racist” by the mainstream media and by organizations such as Media Matters, Think Progress and their progeny.  As I have pointed out before, you don’t need to doubt Obama’s birthplace or eligibility to be labeled a “Birther”; just ask Scott Brown.

We have reached the point that merely expressing normal political and legal inquisitiveness will result in a charge of Birtherism or racism because it now involves Barack Obama, even though similar questions as to John McCain’s eligibility for office were raised in the 2008 election cycle.

I repeat, whiter-than-white John McCain had his eligibility questioned because of his birthplace, so how is it necessarily racist that the same thing takes place as to Barack Obama?  The racist charge is just a way of shutting down the conversation, a convenient excuse for epistemic closure.

As I’ve posted before, I think the circumstantial evidence supports the view that Obama was born in Hawaii, and there is no credible evidence otherwise.  But to reach this conclusion, the one thing neither I nor anyone else can honestly say is that all the evidence has been reviewed.

And personally, I’d love for the records to be released and show that Obama was born in Hawaii, so as to put this politically losing issue behind us.  I’d much rather focus politically on Obama’s destruction of the health care system and bankrupting of the country, than be drawn into the birthplace dance.

But I also have pointed out that Obama’s strategy of concealing the records and dismissing the “Birthers” as cranks is not working in the longer term.  While the charge of Birtherism can be used by Democrats to shape the political landscape, polling shows that there is a substantial segment of the population which doubts Obama’s legitimacy. ”

Read more:

http://legalinsurrection.blogspot.com/2010/12/bizarre-birther-intellectual-dance.html#comment-form

“But to reach this conclusion, the one thing neither I nor anyone else can honestly say is that all the evidence has been reviewed.”

Correct, Mr. Jacobson.

There were some really interesting comments placed under the article. I urge you to read them. Not the least of them was one from Captain Pamela Barnett.

“Barnieca said…

I appreciate that it seems that you are trying to be honest…. SCOTUS rulings prove that obama is not a natural born citizen because he had a foreign father that was NEVER a U.S. citizen. I see a lot of supposedly smart liberal educators ignore this fact. I am suing obama and it did NOT ever stem from hate. I fight for truth and justice under our Constitution. The only question of Natural born centers around where a child was born.. Parent citizenship has always been required to be of TWO citizen parents. If Obama was born in HI as he claims but has not proven, he would only be a NATIVE born citizen as he says on his own campaign website. Native and Natural Born are not equal. Native is Jus solis, but ignores the jus sanquenis aspect to make him Natural Born. There is also a difference between being Born a citizen and natural born.

I swore an oath to defend the Constitution and so did LTC Terrence Lakin who sits in Fort Leavenworth for demanding this issue be resolved before he would deploy again. safeguardourconstitution dot com
you can also see my new website unlawfulpresident dot com for videos that support my belief obama is not NBC.
CPT Pamela Barnett

December 29, 2010 12:27 PM”

My Comment.
 “citizenwells said…

Why has Obama, for over 2 years, employed numerous private and government attorneys to avoid presenting a legitimate birth certificate and college records?
That is the question.
With all due respect, there is no credible circumstantial evidence that Obama was born in Hawaii. As a matter of fact, the efforts expended in keeping the records hidden and covering up put suspicion on where he was born.
Wells

December 29, 2010 1:53 PM”

Neil Abercrombie and media lies, Governor Abercrombie exposed, Obama birth certificate, Natural born citizen status

Neil Abercrombie and media lies, Governor Abercrombie exposed, Obama birth certificate, Natural born citizen status

“Why has Obama, for over 2 years, employed numerous private and government attorneys to avoid presenting a legitimate birth certificate and college records?”…Citizen Wells and millions of concerned Americans

“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it”…Joseph Goebbels

Has Governor Neil Abercrombie backed off of his campaign of lies to protect Obama? Abercrombie, over the past several weeks, broadcast a morass of Orwellian half truths and lies which allowed the mainstream Big Brother press, prominently represented by CNN and MSNBC to repeat the lies as Joseph Goebbels stated.

Chris Matthews, Neil Abercrombie, Clarence Page, David Corn.
Lies, lies and more lies.

““Neil Abercrombie knew Barack Obama’s parents when the future president was born here in 1961″

My response:

People in Kenya knew Obama’s parents, so he must have been born there, applying that logic.

Second.

“Maybe I’m the only one in the country that could look you right in the eye right now and tell you, ‘I was here when that baby was born.’ “

My Response:

I was here when that baby was born. Does that mean Obama was born in NC?”

https://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2010/12/28/chris-matthews-enemy-of-birthers-enemy-of-constitution-enemy-of-american-people-abercrombie-mathews-page-corn-lies-lies-and-more-lies/

Jerome Corsi, at World Net Daily, has provided some excellent background info on Neil Abercrombie.
“Although Hawaii’s newly elected Democrat governor, Neil Abercrombie, has recently given a flurry of high-profile media interviews condemning “birthers” who question Barack Obama’s constitutional eligibility to occupy the Oval Office, suddenly he is declining to answer a few hard questions.

Abercrombie, 72, a former member of the U.S. House, may be trying to quell the surge of doubt among Americans – polls show nearly six in 10 doubt Obama’s own eligibility story – by promising he will try to release additional records on Obama from his state’s Department of Health vault.

He has, in just recent days, expressed his disdain toward “birthers” in the New York Times, the Los Angeles Times, the Chicago Tribune, on CNN, as well as the local Star Advertiser and Hawaii News Now.

His startling remarks appear to be in response to the recent polling results as well as the rapidly growing list of high-profile personalities and leaders publicly raising questions about Obama’s eligibility.”

“Abercrombie was a graduate teaching assistant in sociology at the University of Hawaii when Barack Obama Sr. arrived in 1959 from Kenya to enroll as the first African-born student in the university’s history.

The problem with Abercrombie’s testimony is that Barack Obama Sr. and his wife, Ann Dunham, did not live together as man and wife with their baby son as Abercrombie claims to have witnessed.

WND has published transcripts from the University of Washington in Seattle that prove Ann Dunham was enrolled in extension classes there, across the Pacific, within three weeks of the baby’s birth.

WND further has documented Ann Dunham’s Seattle address in authoritative Seattle street directories from the period and interviewed Barack Obama Jr.’s babysitter in Seattle to further document the presence of Ann Dunham and her baby in Seattle, not Hawaii as Abercrombie has claimed.

WND also has reported that the address used in the two Hawaii newspapers in 1961 announcing the baby’s birth was 6085 Kalanianaole Highway in Honolulu, an address maintained by Ann Dunham’s parents, Madelyn and Stanley Dunham.

In August 1961, when Barack Obama Jr. was born, Barack Obama Sr. maintained a separated address on 11th Avenue, in Hawaii.
 
There is no documentary evidence that Barack Obama Sr. and Ann Dunham ever lived at the same address together as man and wife.
 
Moreover, university transcripts from the University of Washington and the University of Hawaii demonstrate that Ann Dunham remained in Seattle, fully enrolled in university courses, until she returned to Hawaii in 1962 to re-enroll in the University of Hawaii after Barack Obama Sr. had left Hawaii to attend graduate school at Harvard in Cambridge, Massachusetts.”

“During his gubernatorial campaign, Abercrombie blasted WND for publishing a report that Abercrombie was listed as a member of the U.S.-based Marxist-oriented Democratic Socialists of America.

Trevor Loudon of the New Zeal blog, a researcher on communism, uncovered the November-December 1990 issue of the Democratic Socialists of America’s official magazine, “The Democratic Left,” that listed Abercrombie as a member of the party.

The magazine stated the group’s political action committee endorsed two congressional candidates, “DSAer Democrat Neil Abercrombie seeking to regain the House seat representing Honolulu and Vermont independent candidate Bernie Sanders.”

Louden also documented that Obama attended socialist conferences in New York in the early 1980s at the Cooper Union, the usual venue for the annual DSA-organized Socialist Scholars Conferences.”

Read more:

http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=244797

Obama eligibility, Natural born citizen status, Obama birth certificate, Truth emerges, Kerchner v Obama, History being made

Obama eligibility, Natural born citizen status, Obama birth certificate, Truth emerges, Kerchner v Obama, History being made

“Why has Obama, for over 2 years, employed numerous private and government attorneys to avoid presenting a legitimate birth certificate and college records?”…Citizen Wells and millions of concerned Americans

From Citizen Wells yesterday.
“We are poised at historical moments in this country. Tomorrow, November 23, 2010, CDR Charles Kerchner (Ret) and his attorney Mario Apuzzo, have a  Petition for Writ of Certiorari scheduled for Conference before the US Supreme Court. In mid December 2010, the court martial of LTC Terry Lakin will begin. LTC Lakin refused to deploy to Afghanistan because he believes that Obama is ineligible to be president and Commander in Chief.”

Today, the US Supreme is scheduled for conference regarding the Kerchner v Obama Petition for Writ of Certiorari. We are watching. With or without the US Supreme Court, the truth about Obama and his eligibility will emerge.

A great American Patriot and at the same time, average American, who has been providing information to me and this blog for over two years, one of the many concerned Americans who put the WE in CitizenWElls, sent me the following report. One person can make a difference.

From NewsFlavor November 22, 2010.

“The Ulsterman Report: Reflections on the White House Insider”

“Finally we have the portrait of a looming scandal Insider has so successfully woven throughout a number of these interviews.  Is this scandal legitimate, or simply a device to send the Obama White House scurrying for cover – some form of political distraction intended to allow Insider and others within the party to ultimately develop a platform in which to launch successful opposition?  “The DOJ, Washington DC, and then back to Chicago.”  According to Insider, there lies the path to this president’s downfall.  President Obama’s murky ties with some of Chicago’s most notorious politicos is known, though Insider might indicate not so nearly known as they should be.  What of Broadway Bank?  Shorebank?  Tony Rezko?  Rod Blagojevich? And so many other names that darken the murky past that is Barack Obama.  The Obama Department of Justice is now facing far more scrutiny than when Insider initially stated that this developing scandal would begin there – with the DOJ.  Is something to be found among the Black Panther voter intimidation case?  Has Attorney General Eric Holder been engaged in a protective cover up of Obama’s complicity in the Rod Blagojevich pay to play scandal?  And what of the “certification file” allegedly mentioned by Nancy Pelosi?  Does such a file actually exist?  Was it Pelosi’s knowledge of the certification process that has allowed her to ultimately remain in power despite overseeing historical losses against Democrats during the midterm elections?  Or does Pelosi have knowledge of something else?   While Insider has repeatedly described any mention of Barack Obama’s eligibility status as “birther” nonsense, they have also initiated that subject themselves on occasion.  Why?  If the issue is so silly, so beyond the realm of possibility, why bring it up at all?  Perhaps as Insider has also hinted at, there does appear to be something there, but that something might prove so debilitating to the nation’s political process that it leaves Insider not wanting to play any part in such a damaging outcome?.  Of this I am certain – Insider knows far more on this subject than they have yet indicated.

As for myself regarding the subject of the “birther” issue, I now openly admit to having “found religion” as it were.  There indeed does appear to be something amiss.  President Obama has spent millionshiding what most would indicate as rather basic information.  Education records.  Writings.  Travel records.  And yes, clear and comprehensive proof of birth and/or citizenship.  Until recently, I was among those who discounted claims of a cover-up surrounding Barack Obama’s birth story as the silly rants of those with far too much time and resulting paranoia on their hands.

No more.

Throughout the Insider interview series, good people have come forward to offer an abundance of information that at the very least, raises the distinct possibility that a determined and ongoing cover up has in fact been underway surrounding this nation’s current president – and any time there is a cover up, there exists the resulting and required question of WHY?  And so I am now left asking that very question, more often, and more loudly.  I hope to be able to ask it of Insider soon.

Insider – please respond.

More work remains undone – far too many questions remain unanswered…

_________

REFERENCES:

The Ulsterman Report: Banking Scandal Lurking for Obama in 2011?

http://newsflavor.com/politics/us-politics/the-ulsterman-report-banking-scandal-lurking-for-obama-in-2011/

White House Insider: Clintons, Scandals, and the Birth Certificate

http://newsflavor.com/politics/world-politics/white-house-insider-clintons-scandals-and-the-birth-certificate/

The Ulsterman Report: Obama White House -vs- Rahm Emanuel

 http://newsflavor.com/politics/us-politics/the-ulsterman-report-obama-white-house-vs-rahm-emanuel/

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-The invaluable help and guidance of the Ulsterman Facebook Followers.
-Habledash.com

-Hillbuzz.org
-Anthony G. Martin’s Liberty Sphere Report

-Citizenwells.com

-Godlikeproductions.com

-Freerepublic.com”

Read more:

http://newsflavor.com/politics/us-politics/the-ulsterman-report-reflections-on-the-white-house-insider/#ixzz164HAiVDh

“Never, never, never give up.”…Winston Churchill