Category Archives: Hawaii

Donald Trump denies to Mother Jones Magazine, Obama birth certificate fraud, Somebody(s) is lying

Donald Trump denies to Mother Jones Magazine, Obama birth certificate fraud, Somebody(s) is lying

“Why has Obama, since taking the White House, used Justice Department Attorneys, at taxpayer expense,  to avoid presenting a legitimate birth certificate and college records?”…Citizen Wells and millions of concerned Americans

‘MADE in the USA.” …Obama 2012 Campaign

“Born in the USA?”…Millions of Americans

From World Net Daily May 26, 2011.

“Donald Trump today issued a written statement to the leftist Mother Jones magazine and other news outlets denying he told Jerome Corsi, author of a new bestselling book about Barack Obama’s constitutional eligibility, he suspected the birth certificate released by the White House is fraudulent.

Trump also said he had not read Corsi’s book, “Where’s the Birth Certificate? The Case That Barack Obama Is Not Eligible To Be President,” despite having his staff sign a non-disclosure agreement to get the book three weeks before it was released May 17.

Trump does not deny calling Corsi this week but claims in his statement it was only to congratulate him on the sales of his book.

However, Corsi says Trump repeated a conversation he had weeks ago in a conference call with WND Editor and Chief Executive Officer Joseph Farah in which the building magnate said he is concerned about the validity of the document released April 27 by the Obama White House. Farah confirms Trump questioned the authenticity of the birth certificate and said others around him do as well.

“I am proud of the fact that I was able to get President Obama to release his birth certificate,” said Trump’s statement to Mother Jones. “President Clinton couldn’t do it, Senator McCain couldn’t do it – no one else could do it! Frankly, many people were surprised that it took so long for this to happen. Is his birth certificate legitimate? I hope it is for the good of the country, but that’s for experts to determine – not me. I have not read the book written by Jerry Corsi nor did we discuss whether or not the birth certificate was computer generated or in any way fabricated. I merely asked him how his book was doing and wished him good luck.””

“”If he wasn’t going to read the book, why go to the trouble of requesting a PDF copy and having your representative sign an NDA for it?” asked Farah. “Was his intent all along to violate the NDA and give it to someone else? Was his intent other than what he represented to us – to go to school on the eligibility issue? Trump needs to explain himself to someone other than Mother Jones. That doesn’t sound like good faith to me.”

Farah and Corsi say Trump talked about a golf course designer he works with – someone Trump described as a “genius” on the computer – who shared with him his expert opinion that the birth certificate was a fraud. Trump said he was considering renewing his calls for Obama to establish his eligibility, but wanted more to go on.

“He kept urging us to hold press conferences – assuring us he’d be right behind us, holding our coats, so to speak” said Farah. “When I pushed him to join us, he quickly backed off – saying he couldn’t jump back into the issue right now. I have strongly begun to suspect that Trump had other motives than seeking the truth about Obama. I think he was pumping Corsi for information for some other purpose than being on the right side of history.”

Farah says these words from Trump stand out in Corsi’s notes of their last conversation: “Call me before you do anything. I want to know before you do it.””

Read more:

http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=303721

From Citizen Wells May 6, 2011.

Somebody is lying.

Obama? He has consistently lied to the American people about his records, his associations with criminals like Tony Rezko and about the health care bill. Obama is a liar.

Donald Trump? Has asked for months to see Obama’s birth certificate. After the document was placed on WhiteHouse.gov, Trump took credit and made a brief comment that the document would have to be verified. Was Trump telling the truth?

Neil Abercrombie? The newly elected Governor of Hawaii suggested in an interview with the Honolulu Star Advertiser that a long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate for Barack Obama may not exist within the vital records maintained by the Hawaii Department of Health.

Jana Winter or Alvin Onaka? Jana Winter at Fox wrote the following on April 27, 2011.

“More than a month before Donald Trump began his media blitzkrieg over the issue of President Obama’s birth certificate, the document was quietly moved to a more secure location within a dual combination-key lock safe inside the state’s health department vault.

The certificate was moved there by Alvin Onaka, Hawaii’s State Registrar, in response to what had already become an increasing number of media requests by FoxNews.com and others, according to sources.”

https://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2011/04/29/obama-birth-certificate-update-liar-scoreboard-jana-winter-fox-alvin-onaka-story-who-is-lying/

Jana Winter? She wrote the following on April 30, 2011.

“Expert: No Doubt Obama’s Birth Certificate Is Legit”

“But a leading software expert says there’s no doubt about its authenticity, and he dismisses claims of fraud as flat-out wrong.”

https://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2011/04/30/jana-winter-and-fox-intentionally-misleading-americans-obama-birth-certificate-analysis-ocr-software-data-integrity-vs-character-translation/

Jana Winter flagrantly misrepresented what the Adobe expert said. Where I come from, that is an outright lie!

USA Africa?

Kenyan Ambassador to the United States, Peter Ogego?

AP June 27, 2004?

“Kenyan-born US Senate hopeful, Barrack Obama, appeared set to take over the Illinois Senate seat after his main rival, Jack Ryan, dropped out of the race on Friday night amid a furor over lurid sex club allegations.”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uU-oNAaQX6s

2 Affidavits have been presented regarding Obama’s birth certificate and place of birth.

Affidavit:

Any written document in which the signer swears under oath before a Notary Public or someone authorized to take oaths (like a County Clerk), that the statements in the document are true

An affiant is strictly responsible for the truth and accuracy of the contents of the affidavit. If false statements are made, the affiant can be prosecuted for perjury.

Tim Adams ? a elections official in Honolulu in 2008 signed an affifavit stating:

Bishop Ron McRae?

http://obamacrimes.com

Trump Obama birth certificate fake, WhiteHouse.gov document forged, Computer generated document

Trump Obama birth certificate fake, WhiteHouse.gov document forged, Computer generated document

“Why has Obama, since taking the White House, used Justice Department Attorneys, at taxpayer expense,  to avoid presenting a legitimate birth certificate and college records?”…Citizen Wells and millions of concerned Americans

‘MADE in the USA.” …Obama 2012 Campaign

“Born in the USA?”…Millions of Americans

From World Net Daily May 25, 2011.

“Billionaire businessman Donald Trump, who staged a weeks-long public campaign questioning Barack Obama’s eligibility to be president during March and April – and rose to the top of the pool of potential candidates for the 2012 GOP nomination then as a result – says he believes the “birth certificate” released by the White House is forged.

His comments came yesterday in a telephone call to WND senior reporter Jerome Corsi, Ph.D., who is appearing on wall-to-wall radio programs – between 10 and 20 per day – to respond to questions about his latest best-seller, “Where’s the Birth Certificate? The Case That Barack Obama is Not Eligible to be President.”

Trump asked Corsi about the book, its evidence and what is happening next in the effort to document whether Obama is, in fact, constitutionally qualified for the presidency under Article 2, Section 1’s “natural born citizen” requirement.

Trump said his period of almost-complete silence on the issue following the release by the White House on April 27 of the image of a “Certificate of Live Birth” from the state of Hawaii was not because he was satisfied with the document.
 

“I always said I wanted to know if it was real,” Trump told Corsi.

The image has been challenged by a number of experts in the field, and the original, of course, has yet to be seen, much less analyzed.

The state of Hawaii said it inserted “safety paper” into a copy machine and copied onto the new paper the original image from its state records. However, state officials were unwilling to confirm to WND after the image was released that what was issued by the White House was, in fact, an accurate representation of their original records.

During their conversation, Trump told Corsi his own computer expert told him at the release that it was a computer-generated document.

That opinion has been repeated many times, and WND has reported on a few of the objections that have been raised by various experts:
Ivan Zatkovich, of Tampa-based eComp Consultants, for example, analyzed the various layers in the PDF file released by the White House, and concluded: “The content clearly indicates that the document was knowingly and explicitly edited and modified before it was placed on the web.””

Read more:

 http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=303181

Obama records still hidden, Original birth certificate, College records, Senate records, Obama used tax payer dollars to hide records

 Obama records still hidden, Original birth certificate, College records, Senate records, Obama used tax payer dollars to hide records

“Why has Obama, since taking the White House, used Justice Department Attorneys, at taxpayer expense,  to avoid presenting a legitimate birth certificate and college records?”…Citizen Wells and millions of concerned Americans

“Why did the Illinois Senate Health & Human Services Committee, with Obama as chairman, create and push Bill 1332, “Illinois Health Facilities Planning Act,” early in 2003, which reduced the number of members on the Board from 15 to 9, just prior to rigging by Tony Rezko and Rod Blagojevich?”…Citizen Wells

The questions above are still valid and require answers.

Some things are worth repeating. From Citizen Wells April 2, 2008.

We need to know the truth about Barack Obama. We need to know where Obama was on November 4, 1999. We need to know where Obama was and what he was doing during his term in the Illinois Senate. When I first read the allegations of Larry Sinclair, I was very skeptical. I am still somewhat skeptical. However, I went to the records of the Illinois Senate for November 4, 1999 and Barack Obama was not present. Sinclair alleges that he had 2 encounters with Obama from November 3 to November 8 1999. The first encounter was allegedly in a rented limo and involved drugs and gay sex. This alone was not a red flag for me but when you couple this information with Obama’s known association with criminals, with racists and hate mongers and his failure to provide his records while in the Illinois Senate, there is a legitimate need to get straight answers from Obama.

Here is what we know about Obama:

Obama received campaign contributions from Tony Rezko and was involved in a real estate transaction involving Rezko and his wife.

Obama had a long time association with racist, anti semitic pastor Jeremiah Wright.

Obama has consistently evaded requests for information, lied about not knowing of pastor Wright’s comments and acted in a hypocritical manner such as when he condemned Don Imus in 2007.

Obama has made hypocritical comments about open access to records:

From the democratic presidential debate in Philadelphia on Oct. 30, Obama said to Clinton: “We have just gone through one of the most secretive administrations in our history, and not releasing, I think, these records at the same time, Hillary, as you’re making the claim that this is the basis for your experience, I think, is a problem.”

November 3 2007. The Obama campaign sent out a letter  pressing Clinton to release her White House schedules before the Iowa caucuses.

“Fully releasing these records is in keeping with the spirit of the process that makes the Iowa caucus so special,”

 Lynn Sweet, a columnist and the Washington Bureau Chief for the Chicago Sun-Times states:

“Instead, since I have some reporting history here, I am noting a pattern that has emerged: This is Obama’s third ethical conversion of convenience — taking on a higher standard, but only when it appears to be politically expedient. Obama is making government transparency and ethics a centerpiece of his presidential campaign.”

From a Chicago Tribune interview of November 12, 2007:

“The status of any government records Sen. Barack Obama might still have from his time as a state lawmaker in Springfield has come up as he has repeatedly criticized Sen. Hillary Clinton for how slowly records from her husband’s administration have been released.

In a Tribune interview Thursday, the Illinois Democrat said he had no intention of sharing any of the documents he might still have in his possession.”

Next are the questions asked and responses from Obama. I know that many people have read this, but it is worth repeating:

“Q: It is kind of unknown where some of the records from your time in Springfield are located. Where is that stuff, what do you have?

“We had one district director. I had one staff person, so, you know, we didn’t have some elaborate sort of system. I didn’t at my disposal millions of dollars and potentially multiple staff people to conduct an archive. Now keep in mind, it is apples and oranges. First of all, I’m not the one who has made this an issue. We saw during the debate, Senator Clinton was asked about it and the suggestion was somehow they’ve done all they could. And my simple point was, I don’t think there is some smoking gun in these archives or something, or some damning evidence. The only point that I’ve made is that, you know, Senator Clinton continues to base her claim on experience, in part, in substantial part, on her role as first lady, because if her, you know, experience was just based on her tenure as an elected official, it’s thinner than mine. So, I think it’s fair for people to ask, you know, what exactly was she doing, if that’s a substantial claim that she is making. So, I’m not interested in playing a game of gotcha, where I think there is evidence of something. I’m assuming most of this stuff is pretty mundane, you know, stuff. But what we do know is that she was involved in health care. Based on the questions you just asked me, or [New York Times reporter Jeff] Zeleny just asked me today, there’s this sense of, well, yeah, I was in charge of health care, but the fact that it didn’t work out, wasn’t my fault. That, we’ve at least got a public record that she was involved. From that point forward, we really have no idea what she was involved in. And so, you know, what I think, what I think, is not, doesn’t make sense is to say, to able to take credit for whatever Clinton Administration successes that she wants, and then selectively distance herself from any Clinton Administration failures, and not have some sort of public record that allows people to get a sense of that. Now, my sense is that this is information that, if they wanted to accelerate the process, so that it was available before this election, they could get it out there.”

Q: What about your stuff, though? What do you have?

“I have no idea. I mean [muffled on recording]. I really don’t. Again, I did not have at my disposal. I wasn’t preparing for the Obama state senatorial library.”

Q: You must have kept some stuff. Correspondence, calendars?

“The problem is whatever remaining documents I have are inevitably incomplete. And then the questions going to be, where’s this or where’s that. Once I start heading down that road, then it puts me in a position that could end up being misleading. I don’t want to mislead people. I don’t know the extent of the records that I have as a state senator.””

Read more from the Chicago Tribune:

http://weblogs.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/blog/2007/11/obama_did_not_want_his_poems_s.html

The following is from Lynn Sweet of the Chicago Sun-Times on November 11, 2007:

“On Friday, Lynn Sweet of the Chicago Sun-Times reported that she had asked Obama at a news conference: “Do your state senate papers still exist? If they do, just where are they? And would you ever intend to make them public to be responsive to some requests?”

Sweet wrote that he replied: “Nobody has requested specific documents.”

But the Chicago Tribune has reported that it “requested documents from his time in Springfield and never received a response.”

And Sweet wrote of her own paper, “The Chicago Sun-Times has also been asking about Obama’s papers.””

“RNC spokesman Danny Diaz said of Obama’s reticence on records: “Barack Obama is a rookie senator with few accomplishments. Perhaps he’s reluctant to inform the public about his activities in Springfield because they demonstrate a lack of leadership at a state level as well.””

“An Obama spokesman, Ben LaBolt, last week declined to say where Obama’s records from his years in the Illinois State Senate are located. There is no law mandating the state to archive the records. The records from Obama’s office — if he kept them — would potentially show appointments with lobbyists, policy memos, meetings, etc.”

“Obama’s campaign has refused to identify the biggest bundlers, people who are raising at least $200,000 for him and are given membership in his National Finance Council. Obama, as all major candidates, declines most of the time to disclose details about most fund-raising events.”

“Sometimes Obama has come late to the game. He did not stop taking rides on subsidized corporate jets until the week he was tapped to be the Democrats’ chief spokesman on ethics in January 2006. In 2005, Obama took 23 such private aircraft flights, some to attend fund-raisers he headlined. In 2006, Obama led the fight to ban lawmakers from taking cut-rate private air travel.”

“Obama has supported more earmark disclosure to bolster government transparency. Last June, Obama disclosed the earmarks he requested for Illinois and national interests. However, his office, after repeated requests since June, has yet to disclose earmarks Obama sought in 2006, before he was running for president.”

Read more from Lynn Sweet here:

http://blogs.suntimes.com/sweet/2007/11/sweet_column_obama_record_on_t.html

Tim Russert interviewed Barack Obama on November 11, 2007. During part of the interview Russert asked Obama about supplying records. Here is that segment:

“MR. RUSSERT:  You talked about Senator Clinton having records released from the Clinton Library regarding her experience as first lady, and yet when you were asked about, “What about eight years in the state senate of Illinois,” you said, “I don’t know.” Where, where are the—where are your records?

SEN. OBAMA:  Tim, we did not keep those records.  I…

MR. RUSSERT:  Are they gone?

SEN. OBAMA:  Well, let’s be clear.  In the state senate, every single piece of information, every document related to state government was kept by the state of Illinois and has been disclosed and is available and has been gone through with a fine-toothed comb by news outlets in Illinois.  The, the stuff that I did not keep has to do with, for example, my schedule.  I didn’t have a schedule.  I was a state senator.  I wasn’t intending to have the Barack Obama State Senate Library.  I didn’t have 50 or 500 people to, to help me archive these issues.  So…

MR. RUSSERT:  But your meetings with lobbyists and so forth, there’s no record of that?

SEN. OBAMA:  I did not have a scheduler, but, as I said, every document related to my interactions with government is available right now.  And, as I said, news outlets have already looked at them.

MR. RUSSERT:  Is your schedule available anywhere?  Are—the records exist?

SEN. OBAMA:  I—Tim, I kept my own schedule.  I didn’t have a scheduler.

MR. RUSSERT:  Senator Durbin, your colleague, publishes his schedule each day.  Would you do that?

SEN. OBAMA:  Well, you know, these days I have a public presidential schedule that I think everybody has access to.”

To read more of the Tim Russert interview click here:

 http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21738432/

Obama said, “I didn’t have a schedule.” What kind of evasive answer is that? Everyone has a schedule.

Larry Sinclair’s allegation means almost nothing in a vacuum. However, when you look at the big picture, the picture that appears from all of the puzzle pieces, a scary picture emerges. Barack Obama is running for President of the United States. He has to be held to a high standard. It is time for some answers and information.

Obama must provide records.

Where was Obama on November 4, 1999?

Donald Trump lying?, Trump using controversy?, Obama birth certificate lies, Who is lying?

Donald Trump lying?, Trump using controversy?, Obama birth certificate lies, Who is lying?

“Why has Obama, after using private and taxpayer funded attorneys for years to keep his birth certificate and college records hidden, placed a computer generated birth certificate and not a certified original copy on WhiteHouse.gov?”…Citizen Wells

“And if all others accepted the lie which the Party imposed
–if all records told the same tale–then the lie passed into
history and became truth. “Who controls the past,” ran the
Party slogan, “controls the future: who controls the present
controls the past.”…George Orwell, “1984″

“Why has Donald Trump asked for Obama to release a legitimate birth certificate and not questioned the image placed on WhiteHouse.gov?”…Citizen Wells

Somebody is lying!

Has Donald Trump been lying?

Was Trump simply using the birth certificate controversy to gain attention and prominence?

Was Trump in cahoots with Fox News?

https://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2011/05/06/obama-birth-certificate-lies-who-is-lying-obama-trump-jana-winter-alvin-onaka-affidavits-no-certified-copy/

In sync with Jana Winter’s report on Fox, Trump stated the following.

After the dubious image, purported to be Obama’s long form birth certificate, was placed on WhiteHouse.gov Trump stated.

The image placed on WhiteHouse.gov is not a certified copy of an original birth certificate.

Where is Trump?

From the Crossville, TN Chronicle May 9, 2011.

“Why was President Obama’s birth certificate even being discussed? It was due to a clause in Article II, Section 1 of the U.S. Constitution, which states “ No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President;…”

The Founders borrowed the term “natural born citizen” from the international treatise known as the “Law of Nations,” which appears in the U.S. Constitution under Article I and the enumerated powers of congress.

The Constitution does not say “citizen”; it specifically combines the legal concepts of jus soli (right of the soil) and of citizen parents, jus sanguinis (right of blood). It was intentionally designed by the Framers to prevent a President from having dual allegiance.

To be a “natural born citizen” of the United States, one must be the blood offspring of a father who was at the time of birth, a legal U.S. citizen. Every member of the U.S. Supreme Court knows this definition well… its not at all complicated.

President Obama has already admitted to not being the son of a U. S. citizen and is, therefore, not a “natural born citizen.”

Why doesn’t the Supreme Court simply issue an Order stating that President Obama is not a “natural born citizen” and remove him from office? Because the members of the Supreme Court know, or suspect, that the streets would run red with the blood of its citizens if it removed President Obama from office, and additionally make every law signed by President Obama void or voidable.”

“If President Obama is found to be ineligible, no articles of impeachment need to be drawn up. No voters need to be disenfranchised. Simply invoke Section 3 of the 20th Amendment, which provides a remedy if a President is deemed unqualified.”

Read more:

http://crossville-chronicle.com/opinion/x1693502853/Stumptalk-Donald-Trump-and-the-birth-certificate

Obama birth certificate lies, Who is lying?, Obama, Trump, Jana Winter, Alvin Onaka, Affidavits, No certified copy

Obama birth certificate lies, Who is lying?, Obama, Trump, Jana Winter, Alvin Onaka, Affidavits, No certified copy

“Why has Obama, after using private and taxpayer funded attorneys for years to keep his birth certificate and college records hidden, placed a computer generated birth certificate and not a certified original copy on WhiteHouse.gov?”…Citizen Wells

“And if all others accepted the lie which the Party imposed
–if all records told the same tale–then the lie passed into
history and became truth. “Who controls the past,” ran the
Party slogan, “controls the future: who controls the present
controls the past.”…George Orwell, “1984″

“Garbage in, Garbage out.”…Computer Science Axiom

We still have not seen a certified copy of a original birth certificate for Obama. For anyone confused, the document placed on WhiteHouse.gov is not a photocopy, but was computer generated (the documents placed on WhiteHouse.gov tell us so). In concise English this means, if the document did originate with the state of Hawaii, that the document was pieced together using data from multiple places in one or more databases. If this was done, the real question is, where did the data in the database originate. For example, did Obama’s grandmother provide this information sometime after Obama was born. If this was in 1961 it would have been written and/or typed by a typewriter and sometime later entered into computer systems. The signatures could have been scanned into databases as well. We have not seen the source of this data.

Somebody is lying.

Obama? He has consistently lied to the American people about his records, his associations with criminals like Tony Rezko and about the health care bill. Obama is a liar.

Donald Trump? Has asked for months to see Obama’s birth certificate. After the document was placed on WhiteHouse.gov, Trump took credit and made a brief comment that the document would have to be verified. Was Trump telling the truth?

Neil Abercrombie? The newly elected Governor of Hawaii suggested in an interview with the Honolulu Star Advertiser that a long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate for Barack Obama may not exist within the vital records maintained by the Hawaii Department of Health.

Jana Winter or Alvin Onaka? Jana Winter at Fox wrote the following on April 27, 2011.

“More than a month before Donald Trump began his media blitzkrieg over the issue of President Obama’s birth certificate, the document was quietly moved to a more secure location within a dual combination-key lock safe inside the state’s health department vault.

The certificate was moved there by Alvin Onaka, Hawaii’s State Registrar, in response to what had already become an increasing number of media requests by FoxNews.com and others, according to sources.”

https://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2011/04/29/obama-birth-certificate-update-liar-scoreboard-jana-winter-fox-alvin-onaka-story-who-is-lying/

Jana Winter? She wrote the following on April 30, 2011.

“Expert: No Doubt Obama’s Birth Certificate Is Legit”

“But a leading software expert says there’s no doubt about its authenticity, and he dismisses claims of fraud as flat-out wrong.”

https://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2011/04/30/jana-winter-and-fox-intentionally-misleading-americans-obama-birth-certificate-analysis-ocr-software-data-integrity-vs-character-translation/

Jana Winter flagrantly misrepresented what the Adobe expert said. Where I come from, that is an outright lie!

USA Africa?

Kenyan Ambassador to the United States, Peter Ogego?

AP June 27, 2004?

“Kenyan-born US Senate hopeful, Barrack Obama, appeared set to take over the Illinois Senate seat after his main rival, Jack Ryan, dropped out of the race on Friday night amid a furor over lurid sex club allegations.”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uU-oNAaQX6s

2 Affidavits have been presented regarding Obama’s birth certificate and place of birth.

Affidavit:

Any written document in which the signer swears under oath before a Notary Public or someone authorized to take oaths (like a County Clerk), that the statements in the document are true

An affiant is strictly responsible for the truth and accuracy of the contents of the affidavit. If false statements are made, the affiant can be prosecuted for perjury.

Tim Adams ? a elections official in Honolulu in 2008 signed an affifavit stating:

Bishop Ron McRae?

http://obamacrimes.com

Osama and Obama, Bigger news, Borders protected?, Justice Department justice?, Real Blagojevich trial?, Where’s the original birth certificate?, Where’s the justice?

Osama and Obama, Bigger news, Borders protected?, Justice Department justice?, Real Blagojevich trial?, Where’s the original birth certificate?, Where’s the justice?

“Why has Obama, after using private and taxpayer funded attorneys for years to keep his birth certificate and college records hidden, placed a computer generated birth certificate and not a certified original copy on WhiteHouse.gov?”…Citizen Wells

 

“Why did the Illinois Senate Health & Human Services Committee, with Obama as chairman, create and push Bill 1332, “Illinois Health Facilities Planning Act,” early in 2003, which reduced the number of members on the Board from 15 to 9, just prior to rigging by Tony Rezko and Rod Blagojevich?”…Citizen Wells

“I believe I’m more pristine on Rezko than him.”…Rod Blagojevich

First of all, nothing I am about to present is meant to diminish the efforts of our brave people in the military and intelligence community. These folks work hard to keep us safe everyday and uphold and defend the US Constitution.
Osama bin Laden is dead. One less evil person on the planet.
Obama stated:

“On nights like this one”  “we can say that justice has been done.”
My response:

We need justice every day. We need a Justice Department that is not biased and upholds the US Constitution.
We need someone in the White House who follows and upholds the US Constitution.
Osama bin Laden has been taken out. I would be more satisfied with this if we had been securing our borders. If we had people in the federal government who were working with the states to keep illegals out instead of welcoming them for political gain. Where’s the justice?
The case against the New Black Panther Party was dropped and Obama’s buddy Eric Holder has allowed bias to run rampant. Where’s the justice?
The Rod Blagojevich retrial is beginning. The case has been watered down with references to corruption activities tied to Obama minimized. Where’s the justice?
And once again Obama has insulted the American people and thumbed his nose at the Constitution. He presented another document purporting to be a birth certificate, but it was computer generated. It is not, I repeat not a certified copy of an original birth certificate. Where’s the justice?

Here are some recent Citizen Wells articles that explain what the document is and isn’t.

April 28, 2011.

“The following topics are addressed:

Someone(s) is lying.
Overview of WhiteHouse.gov explanation.
Document presented on WhiteHouse.gov site.
Correspondence from Perkins Coie/Obama with the State of Hawaii.
Long form certified copies of original birth certificate have been available for years.
Summary.”

“The document presented on the WhiteHouse.gov site yesterday is nothing more than a COLB (Certification of Live Birth) with additional data from a computer database. It is not an original birth certificate or certified copy of one. It most certainly does not prove birth in Hawaii. It is not the certified copy of  a birth certificate like millions of Americans like you and I were required to produce.”

Read more:

https://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2011/04/28/obama-long-form-birth-certificate-truth-revealed-someone-is-lying-perkins-coie-what-this-document-really-is/

April 30, 2011.

“When you view the document placed on WhiteHouse.gov remember it was computer generated. It is not an image file of a complete original birth certificate. It is a composite of data entered into a database(s) in the Hawaii computer systems. The data is as good as the source and the procedures and personnel who controlled the entry and maintained the integrity. From a legal standpoint it proves, if authenticated as having come from the state of Hawaii, that Obama is a US Citizen. It does not prove that he is a natural born citizen.”

“The article heading is at least misleading or an outright lie.

“Expert: No Doubt Obama’s Birth Certificate Is Legit”

  • Jean-Claude Tremblay ia a Adobe-certified expert. He only addressed the issue of document manipulation.
  • No mention was made of whether or not Tremblay was a birth certificate expert.
  • Tremblay has not been given access to an original birth certificate.
  • Tremblay did not say that the document was an authenticate presentation of Obama’s original birth certificate.”

Read more:

https://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2011/04/30/jana-winter-and-fox-intentionally-misleading-americans-obama-birth-certificate-analysis-ocr-software-data-integrity-vs-character-translation/

And now for some more good old fashioned common sense from NC. Yes, there is still some left and this was put in print in the Rhinoceros Times, based in Greensboro, NC.

“It is strange that we have a president that the people of this country really know very little about. In reading articles about Obama’s life, I have found that the source is usually his own book, Dreams from My Father, which Obama says is not an autobiography. He says that he used composite characters and created events that didn’t necessarily happen, but his book – which is part fact and part fiction – is just about all we know about him.

But there is a question that has come up that is much more important than where Obama was born, or what his grades were in school or how a B student in high school who says himself that he didn’t apply himself in college ended up at Columbia University and Harvard Law School.”

“Several reports before the birth certificate was released stated that even Obama couldn’t get the “original” of his birth certificate. Wow, this is news? It makes it sound like he can’t show people his birth certificate, but what everyone gets is not the original but a certified copy. Of course they don’t give you the original, because if you lose the original how are you going to get a copy? To get a passport around here you have to have a copy of your birth certificate with the seal embossed on it, not the original.

The secretary of health and human services for Hawaii had said that the State of Hawaii keeps the records and that no one is allowed to have a copy of their own birth certificate. Does that mean that the parents are given a copy of the original at the birth of their child, and if they lose that copy or if it burns in a fire, is destroyed by a hurricane, tornado or tsunami, or eaten by the dog, it doesn’t matter? No one is ever allowed a second copy of a birth certificate in Hawaii, unless they happen to be president of the United States and a famous billionaire is making a huge deal out of the fact that said president won’t release his birth certificate?

Obama as usual put that official in a tough spot because first the story was that the birth certificate couldn’t be released and then it was released.

But it was all a big lie anyway. This is 2011. Recently a woman who was born in Hawaii filled out the forms, which are available online, and sent off for her birth certificate. She got a copy of her birth certificate back from the State of Hawaii and put it along with all the paperwork online. If she could do it, certainly our tech savvy president could have done it long ago.

Evidently the head of health and human services in Hawaii doesn’t know what the rules are for his own department, which come to think of it is not all that unusual.

There are many instances in which people might actually need a copy of their long form birth certificate. One would be to sue the doctor who was present at the delivery, another would be to find out who is listed as the father. In North Carolina birth certificates are public records and anyone can obtain a copy. In Hawaii birth certificates, according to the secretary of health, are so confidential that no one other than the president can obtain a copy.

The question remains, why did Obama wait so long and spend so much money to keep his birth certificate from being made public.”

Read more:

http://greensboro.rhinotimes.com/Articles-c-2011-04-27-208186.112113-Under-the-Hammer.html

Where’s the Justice?

Jana Winter and Fox intentionally misleading Americans?, Obama birth certificate analysis, OCR software, Data integrity vs character translation

Jana Winter and Fox intentionally misleading Americans?, Obama birth certificate analysis, OCR software, Data integrity vs character translation

“Why has Obama, after using private and taxpayer funded attorneys for years to keep his birth certificate and college records hidden, placed a computer generated birth certificate and not a certified original copy on WhiteHouse.gov?”…Citizen Wells

“And if all others accepted the lie which the Party imposed
–if all records told the same tale–then the lie passed into
history and became truth. “Who controls the past,” ran the
Party slogan, “controls the future: who controls the present
controls the past.”…George Orwell, “1984″

“Garbage in, Garbage out.”…Computer Science Axiom

I am a computer and business systems expert. Of the many aspects of computer systems and data I was involved in, I worked for a software company in the early 1980’s that dealt with OCR software and readers. I provided my analysis of the document placed on WhiteHouse.gov yesterday.

“When you view the document placed on WhiteHouse.gov remember it was computer generated. It is not an image file of a complete original birth certificate. It is a composite of data entered into a database(s) in the Hawaii computer systems. The data is as good as the source and the procedures and personnel who controlled the entry and maintained the integrity. From a legal standpoint it proves, if authenticated as having come from the state of Hawaii, that Obama is a US Citizen. It does not prove that he is a natural born citizen.”

Read more:

https://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2011/04/29/obama-birth-certificate-update-liar-scoreboard-jana-winter-fox-alvin-onaka-story-who-is-lying/

Jana Winter of Fox news presented this article on April 29, 2011.

“Expert: No Doubt Obama’s Birth Certificate Is Legit”

“The White House has released President Obama’s long-form birth certificate, saying the document is “proof positive” the president was born in Hawaii.

It didn’t take long for some of President Obama’s doubters to claim the long-awaited birth certificate posted online by the White House on Wednesday had been altered or might be a fake.

But a leading software expert says there’s no doubt about its authenticity, and he dismisses claims of fraud as flat-out wrong.

The doubters have latched onto the idea that Adobe Illustrator — the premier program for computer graphic artists — “reveals” evidence of document manipulation in the Obama birth certificate. They note Illustrator reveals nine separate layers of the document, and claim it’s “proof” the file has been altered.

But that’s not so, says Jean-Claude Tremblay, a leading software trainer and Adobe-certified expert, who has years of experience working with and teaching Adobe Illustrator.”

Read more:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/04/29/expert-says-obamas-birth-certificate-legit/

First of all, I have not questioned whether or not this document actually came from the State of Hawaii or not or whether or not the the document was “photoshopped.” It was not the core issue for me.

The article heading is at least misleading or an outright lie.

“Expert: No Doubt Obama’s Birth Certificate Is Legit”

  • Jean-Claude Tremblay ia a Adobe-certified expert. He only addressed the issue of document manipulation.
  • No mention was made of whether or not Tremblay was a birth certificate expert.
  • Tremblay has not been given access to an original birth certificate.
  • Tremblay did not say that the document was an authenticate presentation of Obama’s original birth certificate.

Why does the article contain these statements?

“Expert: No Doubt Obama’s Birth Certificate Is Legit”

“But a leading software expert says there’s no doubt about its authenticity, and he dismisses claims of fraud as flat-out wrong.”

A disturbing trend has developed at Fox. Bill O’Reilly misled the American people for several years by stating that he had done research and that Obama was born in Hawaii. We recently got confirmation that he relied on the birth announcements. Now Jana Winter misrepresents what the Adobe software expert has said.

Did Fox make a deal with the devil?

Jana Winter or Fox, contact me. I am not just a Adobe or OCR expert, I have expertise over a broad area in IT for over 30 years. I also am an expert on the Obama birth certificate and eligibility controversies as well as the Rezko and Chicago corruption ties.

Fox, can you handle the truth?

Obama birth certificate update, Liar scoreboard, Jana Winter Fox, Alvin Onaka story, Who is lying

Obama birth certificate update, Liar scoreboard, Jana Winter Fox, Alvin Onaka story, Who is lying

“Why has Obama, after using private and taxpayer funded attorneys for years to keep his birth certificate and college records hidden, placed a computer generated birth certificate and not a certified original copy on WhiteHouse.gov?”…Citizen Wells

Many lies have been created and spread about Barack Obama’s eligibility, his birth certificate, his birth place. Recently I listed some major players in this controversy.

Obama? He has consistently lied to the American people about his records, his associations with criminals like Tony Rezko and about the health care bill. Obama is a liar.

Neil Abercrombie? The newly elected Governor of Hawaii suggested in an interview with the Honolulu Star Advertiser that a long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate for Barack Obama may not exist within the vital records maintained by the Hawaii Department of Health.

Tim Adams ? a elections official in Honolulu in 2008 signed an affifavit stating:

Donald Trump?

Donald Trump was telling the truth.

If we can believe the report from Jana Winter at Fox on April 27, Donald Trump was telling the truth. Obama’s birth certificate was missing.

“More than a month before Donald Trump began his media blitzkrieg over the issue of President Obama’s birth certificate, the document was quietly moved to a more secure location within a dual combination-key lock safe inside the state’s health department vault.

The certificate was moved there by Alvin Onaka, Hawaii’s State Registrar, in response to what had already become an increasing number of media requests by FoxNews.com and others, according to sources.”

Read more:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/04/27/obama-birth-certificate-moved-secure-location-months-ago/

We are still left with a mystery. Tim Adams stated in his signed affidavit above that there was no birth certificate for Obama in Hawaii in 2008.

Now for the ace up my sleeve. I am a computer and business systems expert. I spent over 30 years in IT. I have plenty of well documented proof. I also have obtained on several occasions a certified copy of my original birth certificate. I am a natural born citizen of the United States and eligible to be president.

The document placed on WhiteHouse.gov was computer generated. Unlike the certified original birth certificate copies you and I have been required to present, Obama’s document was computer generated. For proof of US citizenship, this document if proven to be generated by the State of Hawaii, is sufficient proof for many agencies. However, since it is not a certified copy of an original birth certificate, it does not prove place of birth. Why so? Because in Hawaii one could be born elsewhere and have their birth data entered into Hawaii files.

We were told that it was computer generated here:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/rss_viewer/birth-certificate-correspondence.pdf

When you view the document placed on WhiteHouse.gov remember it was computer generated. It is not an image file of a complete original birth certificate. It is a composite of data entered into a database(s) in the Hawaii computer systems. The data is as good as the source and the procedures and personnel who controlled the entry and maintained the integrity. From a legal standpoint it proves, if authenticated as having come from the state of Hawaii, that Obama is a US Citizen. It does not prove that he is a natural born citizen.

I am willing to go into a legitimate court of law and present any documents from my past. I challenge Obama to do the same.

Obama long form birth certificate truth revealed, Someone is lying, Perkins Coie, What this document really is

Obama long form birth certificate truth revealed, Someone is lying, Perkins Coie, What this document really is

“Why has Obama, for over 2 years, employed numerous private and government attorneys to avoid presenting a legitimate birth certificate and college records?”…Citizen Wells and millions of concerned Americans

“Why has Obama, since taking the White House, used Justice Department Attorneys, at taxpayer expense,  to avoid presenting a legitimate birth certificate and college records?”…Citizen Wells and millions of concerned Americans

 “What are 1,000 lawyers at the bottom of the ocean? A good start.”…Joke?

The information presented below does not address whether or not the document placed on WhiteHouse.gov yesterday came from the State of Hawaii or not. I am not a document analysis specialist and the issue is not critical to evaluate the credibility of the document, Obama and the persons responsible for placing the document on WhiteHouse.gov. Those in the media and elsewhere accepting this document as a certified copy of a birth certificate to authenticate Obama’s birth in Hawaii have not done their due diligence and once again reveal the sad state of “news” in this country. The information below has a basis in fact and documentation and will no doubt befuddle many.

The following topics are addressed:

Someone(s) is lying.
Overview of WhiteHouse.gov explanation.
Document presented on WhiteHouse.gov site.
Correspondence from Perkins Coie/Obama with the State of Hawaii.
Long form certified copies of original birth certificate have been available for years.
Summary.

Somebody is lying.

Obama? He has consistently lied to the American people about his records, his associations with criminals like Tony Rezko and about the health care bill. Obama is a liar.

Neil Abercrombie? The newly elected Governor of Hawaii suggested in an interview with the Honolulu Star Advertiser that a long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate for Barack Obama may not exist within the vital records maintained by the Hawaii Department of Health.

Tim Adams ? a elections official in Honolulu in 2008 signed an affifavit stating:

Donald Trump?

Overview of WhiteHouse.gov explanation.

“In 2008, in response to media inquiries, the President’s campaign requested his birth certificate from the state of Hawaii. The state sent the campaign the President’s birth certificate, the same legal documentation provided to all Hawaiians as proof of birth in state, and the campaign immediately posted it on the internet. That birth certificate can be seen here (PDF).”

Factual analysis: No birth certicate was ever presented by the Obama Campaign. Instead they presented a COLB, Certification of Live Birth. A COLB can be obtained in HI for someone born outside the state. It is sufficient proof for many situations, but not natural born citizen status.

“The President believed the distraction over his birth certificate wasn’t good for the country. It may have been good politics and good TV, but it was bad for the American people and distracting from the many challenges we face as a country.”

Factual analysis: If Obama is sincere, why did he not present a certified birth certificate in 2008 instead of using taxpayer dollars and resources to avoid this diversion. And where are his college records?

“Therefore, the President directed his counsel to review the legal authority for seeking access to the long form certificate and to request on that basis that the Hawaii State Department of Health make an exception to release a copy of his long form birth certificate. They granted that exception in part because of the tremendous volume of requests they had been getting. President Barack Obama’s long form birth certificate can be seen here (PDF):”

Factual analysis: This is an outright lie or Orwellian misinformation spin. Obama has always had the right by Hawaii law to obtain a certified copy of an original birth certificate if he has one. Someone acting on his behalf must get authorization.

“At a time of great consequence for this country – when we should be debating how we win the future, reduce our deficit, deal with high gas prices, and bring stability to the Middle East, Washington, DC, was once again distracted by a fake issue.  The President’s hope is that with this step, we can move on to debating the bigger issues that matter to the American people and the future of the country.”

Factual analysis: Once again, the Obama camp tries to make this appear as a waste of time, a “fake issue.” Obama created this issue and still has not proven Hawaiian birth.

Document presented on WhiteHouse.gov site.

You and I have had to present a certified copy of our birth certificate that looks like this.

The document placed on WhiteHouse.gov, purported to be a certified copy, is a document created from information in a database. It is not a copy of an original birth certificate.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/rss_viewer/birth-certificate-long-form.pdf

Correspondence from Perkins Coie/Obama with the State of Hawaii.

Perkins Coie represented the Obama Campaign in 2008 and going forward and Robert F. Bauer represented Obama in keeping his birth certificate, college records and other records hidden beginning with the Philip J. Berg lawsuit in 2008. Bauer was appointed White House General Counsel by Obama.

Judith L. Corley of Perkins Coie assisted Obama in procuring the document placed on WhiteHouse.gov.  Once again we are presented with a confusing scenario smelling of Orwellian spin. Ms. Corley writes on behalf of Obama requesting two certified copies of his certificate of live birth and that she is authorized to do so. Once again, per Hawaii law, and irrespective of any departmental policy, Obama is entiltled to personally request a certified copy of an original birth certificate if he has one.

Loretta J. Fuddy, Director of Health, states that she is making an exception to departmental policy to accomodate Obama. Is that due to the third party, Ms. Corley acting as a go between? Ms. Fuddy then confirms that the copies will be computer generated.

We learned today that Judith L. Corley stated “I will be coming to your offices to pick up the copies of the certificates.”

http://legaltimes.typepad.com/blt/2011/04/perkins-coie-judith-corley-got-obamas-birth-certificate.html

Long form certified copies of birth certificate have been available.

Hawaii law on access to records.

“§338-18  Disclosure of records.  (a)  To protect the integrity of vital statistics records, to ensure their proper use, and to ensure the efficient and proper administration of the vital statistics system, it shall be unlawful for any person to permit inspection of, or to disclose information contained in vital statistics records, or to copy or issue a copy of all or part of any such record, except as authorized by this part or by rules adopted by the department of health.
     (b)  The department shall not permit inspection of public health statistics records, or issue a certified copy of any such record or part thereof, unless it is satisfied that the applicant has a direct and tangible interest in the record.  The following persons shall be considered to have a direct and tangible interest in a public health statistics record:
     (1)  The registrant;
     (2)  The spouse of the registrant;
     (3)  A parent of the registrant;
     (4)  A descendant of the registrant;
     (5)  A person having a common ancestor with the registrant;
     (6)  A legal guardian of the registrant;
     (7)  A person or agency acting on behalf of the registrant;
     (8)  A personal representative of the registrant’s estate;
     (9)  A person whose right to inspect or obtain a certified copy of the record is established by an order of a court of competent jurisdiction;
    (10)  Adoptive parents who have filed a petition for adoption and who need to determine the death of one or more of the prospective adopted child’s natural or legal parents;
    (11)  A person who needs to determine the marital status of a former spouse in order to determine the payment of alimony;
    (12)  A person who needs to determine the death of a nonrelated co-owner of property purchased under a joint tenancy agreement; and
    (13)  A person who needs a death certificate for the determination of payments under a credit insurance policy.
     (c)  The department may permit the use [of] the data contained in public health statistical records for research purposes only, but no identifying use thereof shall be made.
     (d)  Index data consisting of name and sex of the registrant, type of vital event, and such other data as the director may authorize shall be made available to the public.
     (e)  The department may permit persons working on genealogy projects access to microfilm or other copies of vital records of events that occurred more than seventy-five years prior to the current year.
     (f)  Subject to this section, the department may direct its local agents to make a return upon filing of birth, death, and fetal death certificates with them, of certain data shown to federal, state, territorial, county, or municipal agencies.  Payment by these agencies for these services may be made as the department shall direct.
     (g)  The department shall not issue a verification in lieu of a certified copy of any such record, or any part thereof, unless it is satisfied that the applicant requesting a verification is:
     (1)  A person who has a direct and tangible interest in the record but requests a verification in lieu of a certified copy;
     (2)  A governmental agency or organization who for a legitimate government purpose maintains and needs to update official lists of persons in the ordinary course of the agency’s or organization’s activities;
     (3)  A governmental, private, social, or educational agency or organization who seeks confirmation of a certified copy of any such record submitted in support of or information provided about a vital event relating to any such record and contained in an official application made in the ordinary course of the agency’s or organization’s activities by an individual seeking employment with, entrance to, or the services or products of the agency or organization;
     (4)  A private or government attorney who seeks to confirm information about a vital event relating to any such record which was acquired during the course of or for purposes of legal proceedings; or
     (5)  An individual employed, endorsed, or sponsored by a governmental, private, social, or educational agency or organization who seeks to confirm information about a vital event relating to any such record in preparation of reports or publications by the agency or organization for research or educational purposes. [L 1949, c 327, §22; RL 1955, §57-21; am L Sp 1959 2d, c 1, §19; am L 1967, c 30, §2; HRS §338-18; am L 1977, c 118, §1; am L 1991, c 190, §1; am L 1997, c 305, §5; am L 2001, c 246, §2]”

The 2001 memo that has been misquoted.

The memo addresses privacy concerns which would obviously not apply to Obama or anyone else obtaining their own birth certificate. The memo obviously does not supercede Hawaii Law.

Here is an example of a certified copy of an original 1961 birth certificate from Hawaii.

Summary.

The document presented on the WhiteHouse.gov site yesterday is nothing more than a COLB (Certification of Live Birth) with additional data from a computer database. It is not an original birth certificate or certified copy of one. It most certainly does not prove birth in Hawaii. It is not the certified copy of  a birth certificate like millions of Americans like you and I were required to produce.

Barack Obama is a documented liar who has no regard for the US Constitution, Rule of Law or the American People. Bartle Bull, long time Democrat and civil rights activist, described Obama as a hustler.

Obama long form birth certificate fact vs fiction, WhiteHouse.gov, Obama Abercrombie Adams Trump, Who is lying?

Obama long form birth certificate fact vs fiction, WhiteHouse.gov, Obama Abercrombie Adams Trump, Who is lying?

“Why has Obama, since taking the White House, used Justice Department Attorneys, at taxpayer expense,  to avoid presenting a legitimate birth certificate and college records?”…Citizen Wells and millions of concerned Americans

Somebody is lying.

Obama? He has consistently lied to the American people about his records, his associations with criminals like Tony Rezko and about the health care bill. Obama is a liar.

Neil Abercrombie? The newly elected Governor of Hawaii suggested in an interview with the Honolulu Star Advertiser that a long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate for Barack Obama may not exist within the vital records maintained by the Hawaii Department of Health.

Tim Adams ? a elections official in Honolulu in 2008 signed an affifavit stating:

“Senior officers in the City and County of Honolulu Elections Division told me on multiple occasions that no Hawaii long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate existed for Senator Obama in the Hawaii Department of Health,”

 “and there was no record that any such document had ever been on file in the Hawaii Department of Health or any other branch or department of the Hawaii government.”

Donald Trump?

Common sense remarks.

The alleged long form birth certificate presented at WhiteHouse.gov does not look like any certified copy of a birth certificate I have seen. The Post & Email presents this example.

http://www.thepostemail.com/2011/04/14/long-form-birth-certificates-were-available-until-trump-trumped-obama/

A commenter on Citizen Wells asks a good question:

“from another blog:

“Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital and according to the information there, the name of the hospital at the time of his birth should have been Kauikeolani Children’s Hospital. According to the web site the name didn’t change to Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital until Kauikeolani Children’s Hospital merged with Kapi‘olani Maternity Home in 1978. So how could his official long form birth certificate that was generated in 1961 have the name of the hospital that wasn’t created until 1978?””

The question that begs to be answered is:

“Why has Obama, since taking the White House, used Justice Department Attorneys, at taxpayer expense,  to avoid presenting a legitimate birth certificate and college records?

Is it the college records he is hiding?

Why is no one in the media screaming about Obama going  to such lengths to hide his records and using taxpayer dollars and resources to do it?

Why did Obama choose today to put up another document to attempt putting this issue to rest?

From the Orwellian White House blog today:

“The President believed the distraction over his birth certificate wasn’t good for the country. It may have been good politics and good TV, but it was bad for the American people and distracting from the many challenges we face as a country. Therefore, the President directed his counsel to review the legal authority for seeking access to the long form certificate and to request on that basis that the Hawaii State Department of Health make an exception to release a copy of his long form birth certificate. They granted that exception in part because of the tremendous volume of requests they had been getting.”

http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2011/04/27/president-obamas-long-form-birth-certificate

Are they attempting to fool people with an Orwellian spin. If the implication is that someone other than Obama is trying to get a copy, Hawaii law does prevent that. However, Obama, per Hawaii law, could have at any time obtained a certified long form copy himself.

The Post & Email has done an excellent jog of researching and reporting on this.

“The Department of Health states about “vital records” that “Certified copies of these records may be issued to authorized individuals and used for such diverse purposes as school entry, passports, Social Security participation, driver’s licenses, employment, sports participation, survivor’s benefits, proof of property rights, and other needs.”

A “certified copy” is a duplicate of the original record, not a composite such as the “Certificate of Live Birth” which is a different form lacking the level of detail of the long-form.”

“Why are long-form birth certificates suddenly not available?  Is it because Donald Trump has challenged Obama to show his, and it doesn’t exist?”

http://www.thepostemail.com/2011/04/14/long-form-birth-certificates-were-available-until-trump-trumped-obama/

World Net Daily reveals a change in posture by the Hawaii Dept. of Health on releasing long form birth certificates.

“The president’s supporters repeatedly have cited that policy as the reason why no other records of Obama’s birth can be released but a computer-generated “Certification of Live Birth” document that was posted on the Internet during the 2008 campaign.

State officials also have cited the policy change as the reason they cannot release Obama’s original long-form birth documentation, even though their own law specifies that the “department of health shall, upon request, furnish to any applicant a certified copy of any certificate, or the contents of any certificate, or any part thereof.””

http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=292053

However, from reading the 2001 memo,

it is apparent that the context of the memo is not disclosing personal information and applies to entities that are not the birth subject. Hence an individual may still get a certified copy of their long form birth certificate. We know for a fact that a number of people have done so in recent years.