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Obama birth certificate lies, Who is lying?, Obama, Trump, Jana Winter, Alvin Onaka, Affidavits, No certified copy

Obama birth certificate lies, Who is lying?, Obama, Trump, Jana Winter, Alvin Onaka, Affidavits, No certified copy

“Why has Obama, after using private and taxpayer funded attorneys for years to keep his birth certificate and college records hidden, placed a computer generated birth certificate and not a certified original copy on WhiteHouse.gov?”…Citizen Wells

“And if all others accepted the lie which the Party imposed
–if all records told the same tale–then the lie passed into
history and became truth. “Who controls the past,” ran the
Party slogan, “controls the future: who controls the present
controls the past.”…George Orwell, “1984″

“Garbage in, Garbage out.”…Computer Science Axiom

We still have not seen a certified copy of a original birth certificate for Obama. For anyone confused, the document placed on WhiteHouse.gov is not a photocopy, but was computer generated (the documents placed on WhiteHouse.gov tell us so). In concise English this means, if the document did originate with the state of Hawaii, that the document was pieced together using data from multiple places in one or more databases. If this was done, the real question is, where did the data in the database originate. For example, did Obama’s grandmother provide this information sometime after Obama was born. If this was in 1961 it would have been written and/or typed by a typewriter and sometime later entered into computer systems. The signatures could have been scanned into databases as well. We have not seen the source of this data.

Somebody is lying.

Obama? He has consistently lied to the American people about his records, his associations with criminals like Tony Rezko and about the health care bill. Obama is a liar.

Donald Trump? Has asked for months to see Obama’s birth certificate. After the document was placed on WhiteHouse.gov, Trump took credit and made a brief comment that the document would have to be verified. Was Trump telling the truth?

Neil Abercrombie? The newly elected Governor of Hawaii suggested in an interview with the Honolulu Star Advertiser that a long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate for Barack Obama may not exist within the vital records maintained by the Hawaii Department of Health.

Jana Winter or Alvin Onaka? Jana Winter at Fox wrote the following on April 27, 2011.

“More than a month before Donald Trump began his media blitzkrieg over the issue of President Obama’s birth certificate, the document was quietly moved to a more secure location within a dual combination-key lock safe inside the state’s health department vault.

The certificate was moved there by Alvin Onaka, Hawaii’s State Registrar, in response to what had already become an increasing number of media requests by FoxNews.com and others, according to sources.”

https://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2011/04/29/obama-birth-certificate-update-liar-scoreboard-jana-winter-fox-alvin-onaka-story-who-is-lying/

Jana Winter? She wrote the following on April 30, 2011.

“Expert: No Doubt Obama’s Birth Certificate Is Legit”

“But a leading software expert says there’s no doubt about its authenticity, and he dismisses claims of fraud as flat-out wrong.”

https://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2011/04/30/jana-winter-and-fox-intentionally-misleading-americans-obama-birth-certificate-analysis-ocr-software-data-integrity-vs-character-translation/

Jana Winter flagrantly misrepresented what the Adobe expert said. Where I come from, that is an outright lie!

USA Africa?

Kenyan Ambassador to the United States, Peter Ogego?

AP June 27, 2004?

“Kenyan-born US Senate hopeful, Barrack Obama, appeared set to take over the Illinois Senate seat after his main rival, Jack Ryan, dropped out of the race on Friday night amid a furor over lurid sex club allegations.”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uU-oNAaQX6s

2 Affidavits have been presented regarding Obama’s birth certificate and place of birth.

Affidavit:

Any written document in which the signer swears under oath before a Notary Public or someone authorized to take oaths (like a County Clerk), that the statements in the document are true

An affiant is strictly responsible for the truth and accuracy of the contents of the affidavit. If false statements are made, the affiant can be prosecuted for perjury.

Tim Adams ? a elections official in Honolulu in 2008 signed an affifavit stating:

Bishop Ron McRae?

http://obamacrimes.com

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Obama birth certificate update, Liar scoreboard, Jana Winter Fox, Alvin Onaka story, Who is lying

Obama birth certificate update, Liar scoreboard, Jana Winter Fox, Alvin Onaka story, Who is lying

“Why has Obama, after using private and taxpayer funded attorneys for years to keep his birth certificate and college records hidden, placed a computer generated birth certificate and not a certified original copy on WhiteHouse.gov?”…Citizen Wells

Many lies have been created and spread about Barack Obama’s eligibility, his birth certificate, his birth place. Recently I listed some major players in this controversy.

Obama? He has consistently lied to the American people about his records, his associations with criminals like Tony Rezko and about the health care bill. Obama is a liar.

Neil Abercrombie? The newly elected Governor of Hawaii suggested in an interview with the Honolulu Star Advertiser that a long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate for Barack Obama may not exist within the vital records maintained by the Hawaii Department of Health.

Tim Adams ? a elections official in Honolulu in 2008 signed an affifavit stating:

Donald Trump?

Donald Trump was telling the truth.

If we can believe the report from Jana Winter at Fox on April 27, Donald Trump was telling the truth. Obama’s birth certificate was missing.

“More than a month before Donald Trump began his media blitzkrieg over the issue of President Obama’s birth certificate, the document was quietly moved to a more secure location within a dual combination-key lock safe inside the state’s health department vault.

The certificate was moved there by Alvin Onaka, Hawaii’s State Registrar, in response to what had already become an increasing number of media requests by FoxNews.com and others, according to sources.”

Read more:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/04/27/obama-birth-certificate-moved-secure-location-months-ago/

We are still left with a mystery. Tim Adams stated in his signed affidavit above that there was no birth certificate for Obama in Hawaii in 2008.

Now for the ace up my sleeve. I am a computer and business systems expert. I spent over 30 years in IT. I have plenty of well documented proof. I also have obtained on several occasions a certified copy of my original birth certificate. I am a natural born citizen of the United States and eligible to be president.

The document placed on WhiteHouse.gov was computer generated. Unlike the certified original birth certificate copies you and I have been required to present, Obama’s document was computer generated. For proof of US citizenship, this document if proven to be generated by the State of Hawaii, is sufficient proof for many agencies. However, since it is not a certified copy of an original birth certificate, it does not prove place of birth. Why so? Because in Hawaii one could be born elsewhere and have their birth data entered into Hawaii files.

We were told that it was computer generated here:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/rss_viewer/birth-certificate-correspondence.pdf

When you view the document placed on WhiteHouse.gov remember it was computer generated. It is not an image file of a complete original birth certificate. It is a composite of data entered into a database(s) in the Hawaii computer systems. The data is as good as the source and the procedures and personnel who controlled the entry and maintained the integrity. From a legal standpoint it proves, if authenticated as having come from the state of Hawaii, that Obama is a US Citizen. It does not prove that he is a natural born citizen.

I am willing to go into a legitimate court of law and present any documents from my past. I challenge Obama to do the same.

Obama long form birth certificate fact vs fiction, WhiteHouse.gov, Obama Abercrombie Adams Trump, Who is lying?

Obama long form birth certificate fact vs fiction, WhiteHouse.gov, Obama Abercrombie Adams Trump, Who is lying?

“Why has Obama, since taking the White House, used Justice Department Attorneys, at taxpayer expense,  to avoid presenting a legitimate birth certificate and college records?”…Citizen Wells and millions of concerned Americans

Somebody is lying.

Obama? He has consistently lied to the American people about his records, his associations with criminals like Tony Rezko and about the health care bill. Obama is a liar.

Neil Abercrombie? The newly elected Governor of Hawaii suggested in an interview with the Honolulu Star Advertiser that a long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate for Barack Obama may not exist within the vital records maintained by the Hawaii Department of Health.

Tim Adams ? a elections official in Honolulu in 2008 signed an affifavit stating:

“Senior officers in the City and County of Honolulu Elections Division told me on multiple occasions that no Hawaii long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate existed for Senator Obama in the Hawaii Department of Health,”

 “and there was no record that any such document had ever been on file in the Hawaii Department of Health or any other branch or department of the Hawaii government.”

Donald Trump?

Common sense remarks.

The alleged long form birth certificate presented at WhiteHouse.gov does not look like any certified copy of a birth certificate I have seen. The Post & Email presents this example.

http://www.thepostemail.com/2011/04/14/long-form-birth-certificates-were-available-until-trump-trumped-obama/

A commenter on Citizen Wells asks a good question:

“from another blog:

“Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital and according to the information there, the name of the hospital at the time of his birth should have been Kauikeolani Children’s Hospital. According to the web site the name didn’t change to Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital until Kauikeolani Children’s Hospital merged with Kapi‘olani Maternity Home in 1978. So how could his official long form birth certificate that was generated in 1961 have the name of the hospital that wasn’t created until 1978?””

The question that begs to be answered is:

“Why has Obama, since taking the White House, used Justice Department Attorneys, at taxpayer expense,  to avoid presenting a legitimate birth certificate and college records?

Is it the college records he is hiding?

Why is no one in the media screaming about Obama going  to such lengths to hide his records and using taxpayer dollars and resources to do it?

Why did Obama choose today to put up another document to attempt putting this issue to rest?

From the Orwellian White House blog today:

“The President believed the distraction over his birth certificate wasn’t good for the country. It may have been good politics and good TV, but it was bad for the American people and distracting from the many challenges we face as a country. Therefore, the President directed his counsel to review the legal authority for seeking access to the long form certificate and to request on that basis that the Hawaii State Department of Health make an exception to release a copy of his long form birth certificate. They granted that exception in part because of the tremendous volume of requests they had been getting.”

http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2011/04/27/president-obamas-long-form-birth-certificate

Are they attempting to fool people with an Orwellian spin. If the implication is that someone other than Obama is trying to get a copy, Hawaii law does prevent that. However, Obama, per Hawaii law, could have at any time obtained a certified long form copy himself.

The Post & Email has done an excellent jog of researching and reporting on this.

“The Department of Health states about “vital records” that “Certified copies of these records may be issued to authorized individuals and used for such diverse purposes as school entry, passports, Social Security participation, driver’s licenses, employment, sports participation, survivor’s benefits, proof of property rights, and other needs.”

A “certified copy” is a duplicate of the original record, not a composite such as the “Certificate of Live Birth” which is a different form lacking the level of detail of the long-form.”

“Why are long-form birth certificates suddenly not available?  Is it because Donald Trump has challenged Obama to show his, and it doesn’t exist?”

http://www.thepostemail.com/2011/04/14/long-form-birth-certificates-were-available-until-trump-trumped-obama/

World Net Daily reveals a change in posture by the Hawaii Dept. of Health on releasing long form birth certificates.

“The president’s supporters repeatedly have cited that policy as the reason why no other records of Obama’s birth can be released but a computer-generated “Certification of Live Birth” document that was posted on the Internet during the 2008 campaign.

State officials also have cited the policy change as the reason they cannot release Obama’s original long-form birth documentation, even though their own law specifies that the “department of health shall, upon request, furnish to any applicant a certified copy of any certificate, or the contents of any certificate, or any part thereof.””

http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=292053

However, from reading the 2001 memo,

it is apparent that the context of the memo is not disclosing personal information and applies to entities that are not the birth subject. Hence an individual may still get a certified copy of their long form birth certificate. We know for a fact that a number of people have done so in recent years.

White House Obama release long form birth certificate, Who is lying?, Abercrombie Adams Obama, College records to be released?, Why Obama spent taxpayer dollars to hide

White House Obama release long form birth certificate, Who is lying?, Abercrombie Adams Obama, College records to be released?, Why Obama spent taxpayer dollars to hide

“Why has Obama, since taking the White House, used Justice Department Attorneys, at taxpayer expense,  to avoid presenting a legitimate birth certificate and college records?”…Citizen Wells and millions of concerned Americans

Who is lying?

Neil Abercrombie?

Tim Adams?

Barack Obama?

From the White House blog.

“President Obama’s Long Form Birth Certificate
Posted by Dan Pfeiffer on April 27, 2011 at 08:57 AM EDT
In 2008, in response to media inquiries, the President’s campaign requested his birth certificate from the state of Hawaii. The state sent the campaign the President’s birth certificate, the same legal documentation provided to all Hawaiians as proof of birth in state, and the campaign immediately posted it on the internet. That birth certificate can be seen here (PDF).

When any citizen born in Hawaii requests their birth certificate, they receive exactly what the President received. In fact, the document posted on the campaign website is what Hawaiians use to get a driver’s license from the state and the document recognized by the Federal Government and the courts for all legal purposes. That’s because it is the birth certificate. This is not and should not be an open question.

The President believed the distraction over his birth certificate wasn’t good for the country. It may have been good politics and good TV, but it was bad for the American people and distracting from the many challenges we face as a country. Therefore, the President directed his counsel to review the legal authority for seeking access to the long form certificate and to request on that basis that the Hawaii State Department of Health make an exception to release a copy of his long form birth certificate. They granted that exception in part because of the tremendous volume of requests they had been getting. President Barack Obama’s long form birth certificate can be seen here (PDF):

At a time of great consequence for this country – when we should be debating how we win the future, reduce our deficit, deal with high gas prices, and bring stability to the Middle East, Washington, DC, was once again distracted by a fake issue.  The President’s hope is that with this step, we can move on to debating the bigger issues that matter to the American people and the future of the country.”

http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2011/04/27/president-obamas-long-form-birth-certificate

If this birth certificate is real, why did Obama use taxpayer dollars and resources to hide it?

Where are the college records?