Lt. Col. Lakin Military Court, Amicus Curiae, Cody Robert Judy, June 9, 2010, On behalf of the defendant Lakin, US Army v. Lakin

Lt. Col. Lakin Military Court, Amicus Curiae, Cody Robert Judy

From Cody Robert Judy’s website:

“Wednesday, June 9, 2010
Amicus Curiae in Defence of Lt.Col. Lakin

Cody Robert Judy
No. West
UT. 84
(801)497-
_____________________________________________________________________________
IN THE HONORABLE MILITARY COURT
U.S. ARMY (Plaintiff)
v. Amicus Curiae under UCMJ
LAKIN (Defendant)
Cody Robert Judy- Amicus Curiae LTC Driscoll
______________________________________________________________________________
daniel.driscoll@amedd.army.mil
cc: www.personalinjuryattorneylaw.com info@jensenlawyers.com att: Jenson & Associates- c/o Attorney Paul Rolf Jensen

Re: Amicus Curiae on behalf of the defendant Lakin

Amicus Curiae Concern for Defendant in the matter of U.S. Army v. Lakin in the matter wherein Lakin was charged:

“With one specification of a violation of Article 87, Missing Movement and four specifications of a violation of Article 92 (three specifications of Failure to Obey a Lawful Order, and one Specification of Dereliction of Duty),” said Chuck Dasey, spokesman at Walter Reed Army Medical Center in Washington, where Lakin is assigned.

*Motion to file leave of Amicus Curiae is respectfully submitted if applicable in UCMJ
______________________________________

Reasons why the Amicus Curiae from Cody Robert Judy is applicable to this Court:
______________________________________
• Cody Robert Judy was a candidate in the 2008 elections for President of the United States, who has filed litigation in two Federal Courts regarding the qualifications of Sen. John McCain, and Sen. Barack Hussein Obama who now occupies the White House. Here are the following Internet Link in support:
http://www.codyjudy.us/crj4ussenatorut_031.htm Judy vs. McCain
http://www.scribd.com/doc/22288917/Judy-v-Obama Judy vs. Obama

Cody Robert Judy also recently testified in the CIA Columbia Obama Trial as an injured presidential candidate, who by being in the same Presidential race as Obama has standing, and who swore to tell the truth at the trial where a 10 Amendment Court was held, a Jury selected, Defendant’s were served and given the chance to defend themselves, 6 days of trial witnesses and evidence were produced, and the Jury rendered a guilty verdict on 17 accounts ranging from fraud to sedition on Barack Hussein Obama, Michael Sovern, and Columbia University. The closing arguments are here:

http://atlah.org/atlahworldwide/?p=8342
http://www.sonorannews.com/archives/2010/100519/ftpgObamaTrial.html (News)
http://codyjudy.blogspot.com/2010/05/12-cia-columbia-jury-are-chosen-and-13.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBJihJBePcs 31 sec. video witness Michelle Obama

The Uniform Code of Military Justice, Article 32 Investigation, paragraph 1, reads:

(a) No charge or specification may be referred to a general court-martial for trial until a through and impartial investigation of all the matters set forth therein has been made. This investigation shall include inquiry as to the truth of the matter set forth in the charges, consideration of the form of charges, and recommendation as to the disposition which should be made of the case in the interest of justice and discipline.

a. While the Federal Courts have an interest in procuring justice in the matter, the technicalities of those courts and whatever rulings have or have not transpired do not apply to facts and information relevant to this matter. So it is that this court may also consider whatever evidence it seems true and faithful to the U.S.C.

(b) Your statement in paragraph 6 making a unilateral ruling on the role Congress may or may not play in any eligibility determination is incorrect. Obama has been sued prior to his (presumably) legally becoming President since he had never shown himself to be legally eligible to hold that office and in fact lied on his Declaration of Candidacy. Your pretense that somehow Congress could impeach a person ineligible to hold office actually is contrary to what would happen in the matter of an ineligible person who was sitting in the presidential seat of authority as a usurper.

(c) The Frame Work necessary to straighten the executive branch should be recognized by this court as a matter of jurisprudence, and if there exist evidence that would release the charges by statutes of compliance towards duty, that should be considered equitably. If there is one advantage of a military court, it is that of examining evidence and testimony minus the political fever at large. Now I challenge this court to hear my testimony, and to examine the evidence herein as a matter of defense for Lt. Col. Lakin as I do have direct standing in the matter which surrounds the issues with which he is so charged with, and I offer myself as witness for his behalf feeling it would be beyond my ability to withhold my testimony as a natural born citizen of the United States who has standing in the 2008 Presidential Election, in the defense of the same military which is sworn to protect me and uphold the United States Constitution.”

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http://codyjudy.blogspot.com/2010/06/amicus-curiae-in-defence-of-ltcol-lakin.html#comment-form

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216 responses to “Lt. Col. Lakin Military Court, Amicus Curiae, Cody Robert Judy, June 9, 2010, On behalf of the defendant Lakin, US Army v. Lakin

  1. Stand up for America

    Support all those couorageous people who dare to challenge the government criminals

  2. Thanks CitizenWells for posting this. Have a great day! Zach

  3. This link takes you to a really great short video. It shoould have appeared below my first comment. It inspires me to keep on keeping on in the face of overwhelming denigration of America by this fascist regime.

  4. Ok, I’m lost. How is this cody robert judy significant? Who is he ?

  5. citizenwells

    Zach.
    Thanks for bringing it to my attention.

  6. Jacqlyn Smith

    #

    William // June 13, 2010 at 11:38 am

    Ok, I’m lost. How is this cody robert judy significant? Who is he ?
    *********************************************

    You can be sure that Leo the Liar is getting ready to tell you!

  7. William,

    Cody Robert Judy was a candidate in the 2008 elections for President of the United States, who has filed litigation in two Federal Courts regarding the qualifications of Sen. John McCain, and Sen. Barack Hussein Obama who now occupies the White House
    Cody Robert Judy also recently testified in the CIA Columbia Obama Trial as an injured presidential candidate,
    It’s all there in the article.

  8. Dorothy Rabinowitz (a member of The Wall Steet Journal’s editorial board) wrote this about us:
    —————
    “The Alien in the White House”

    “He is the alien in the White House, a matter having nothing to do with delusions about his birthplace cherished by the demented fringe.”

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703302604575294231631318728.html

  9. Robert Gibbs Is Asked About Obama’s Connecticut Social Security Number

  10. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    Starla // June 13, 2010 at 5:23 am

    From: Pamela Geller At The Atlas Shruggs2000 Web Site:

    http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2010/06/-obama-tells-egyptian-foreign-minister-i-am-a-muslim-stealth-coup-on-the-white-house.html

    ==============================

    Posting Process

    Hey Starla, more than any other person posting here you have a proclivity for copying entire long articles into your posts, sometimes multiple long articles.

    In addition to violating copyright laws and common practice, it makes it very hard to scroll through all the posts.

    Could you please consider just posting the link and at most a brief synopsis or short quotation from the material?

    Many of us would be forever grateful!

  11. Tennbrock,

    Thanks for the responce. I knew that much, I am unasured as to why is thss significant pertaing to LTC Lankins military trial. Is the Military going to allow his testimony or something? If not, why breaking news I guess is my question.

  12. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    Jacqlyn Smith // June 13, 2010 at 1:08 pm
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    Come on, JS – that kind of venom is just not wanted here. If that is all you have to say, please hop back on your broom and fly away.

    To the point – Cody Judy is a wack job. You can look up his background and see that it is quite checkered.

    HOWEVER

    That does not mean that he is wrong nor that he should not be given his day in court and a right to file a brief.

    Unlike some other wackos, he is not asking me to follow him blindly, send him money, nor collecting my private information. He is just expressing his opinion as a citizen and a legitimate candidate.

    God bless and guide him.

  13. No, that is not normally the responce from Jacqlyn Smith, least the one I have held conversations with for over a year now, on and off.

    Jacqlyn smith is a very heartfelt patriot and like me, says it like it is. Speaks her mind and I appreciate it. The same as many otheras that I dearly miss.

  14. In any event,

    I responded to “Helen” of Troy on another thread. Helen of Troy, please bring your anti Isreal comments to this thead whereby I save time on my blackberry pulling pages to load.. thanks

  15. I have never given anyone a name nor declared them an obot during my well over a year posting. Nevertheless, I have for the first time assigned one, “Helen of Troy”

    Hell bent of starting a war between the west and east, proclaiming moral humanity, justifying pure religion and sympathy to a cause with intent to infiltrate. Just my opinion

  16. Everyone should be entitled to their opinion without being labeled.

  17. Free Speech

    IGNORE THE boBot TROLLS! They only come here to CW to disrupt intelligent discourse.

    DON’T FEED THE ANTI-SEMETIC boBot TROLL. She will slither back to her ANTI-SEMETIC DISINFORMATION site where she belongs.

  18. Knock it off, Leo. PLEASE

  19. Free Speech

    William // June 13, 2010 at 2:44 pm

    I have never given anyone a name nor declared them an obot during my well over a year posting. Nevertheless, I have for the first time assigned one, “Helen of Troy”

    Hell bent of starting a war between the west and east, proclaiming moral humanity, justifying pure religion and sympathy to a cause with intent to infiltrate. Just my opinion
    **************************************

    Well Said, William!

  20. Jacqlyn Smith

    #

    Citizen Carlyle (FUBO) // June 13, 2010 at 2:17 pm

    Jacqlyn Smith // June 13, 2010 at 1:08 pm
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    Come on, JS – that kind of venom is just not wanted here. If that is all you have to say, please hop back on your broom and fly away.

    To the point – Cody Judy is a wack job. You can look up his background and see that it is quite checkered.

    HOWEVER

    That does not mean that he is wrong nor that he should not be given his day in court and a right to file a brief.

    Unlike some other wackos, he is not asking me to follow him blindly, send him money, nor collecting my private information. He is just expressing his opinion as a citizen and a legitimate candidate.

    God bless and guide him.
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    OH…so you can call my friend Cody Judy a “wack job” and infer me to be a “witch”…but I can’t call out a LIAR like Leo…..who appointed you GOD??? If anyone is wacky here that would be Y-O-U!!! Now go ahead and WHINE!!! WA…WA…WA!!

  21. Free Speech

    Citizen Carlyle (FUBO) // June 13, 2010 at 2:17 pm

    Jacqlyn Smith // June 13, 2010 at 1:08 pm
    ========================

    Come on, JS – that kind of venom is just not wanted here. If that is all you have to say, please hop back on your broom and fly away.

    *********************************

    Well said, CC!

  22. Asshat

  23. Free Speech

    IGNORE THE boBot TROLLS! They only come here to CW to disrupt intelligent discourse.

    DON’T FEED THE ANTI-SEMETIC boBot TROLL. She will slither back to her ANTI-SEMETIC DISINFORMATION site where she belongs.

  24. Jacqlyn Smith

    #

    William // June 13, 2010 at 2:24 pm

    No, that is not normally the responce from Jacqlyn Smith, least the one I have held conversations with for over a year now, on and off.

    Jacqlyn smith is a very heartfelt patriot and like me, says it like it is. Speaks her mind and I appreciate it. The same as many otheras that I dearly miss.
    ****************************************

    William…..unfortunately this blog was taken over by folks who think they are GOD…real discussions and heartfelt Patriots left when the LIAR was allowed to attack and continue the disinformation concerning RAP and AGJ…..the FRAUD posting as Free Speech…a/k/a Leo the Liar.. continues to spew false information and attack good people who used to be here to inform others of the truth! I rarely come here anymore but couldn’t resist answering your comment……I have been quite busy with RAP and “the people’s business” along with my own personal concerns…..thank you though for your nice comments about my Patriotism……and yes….the truth shall set us free!!! See you over at Greg’s blog! 🙂

  25. Free Speech

    Could we get back to intelligent discourse now?

    Cabby – AZ // June 13, 2010 at 11:05 am

    Wow! Before I could finish writing we had moved over to this thread! So, this is carried over:

    Free Speech – 9:44 AM

    Many legal scholars have been concerned about the Advisory Committees usurpation of the right of presentment to a Federal Grand Jury by We the People, butRAP/AGJ NONSENSE distorts the legitimate legal issue with wacko conspiracy foolish disinformation. Some RAP/AGJ koolaid drinkers may be well meaning, although misguided, but I can assure you the RAP/AGJ “elders” are NOT interested in restoring our Constitutional Rule of Law.
    *****************************
    Thank you!!!! FS, YOU HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD. Not only that, but you have explained this matter in a way that I have never read before – I mean, the reconciliation between Rule 7 of the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure and the Constitutional provisions in
    the Fifth Amendment. You see, for those of us who don’t have a background in law and don’t have the time to sort it all out, the myriad of voices out there (most of whom are ill-informed)
    is confusing, to say the least.
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    Cabby, I understand. I remember my 1st visit to the Vanderbilt Law School Library, seeing 2 multi-floor buildings full of Law books. I then realized just how incomprehensible the Law of this Nation had become and how far removed from the original Supreme Law of the Land, our Constitution.

    It is so gratifying to have these discussions with you. I have essentially been writing the same essay on the Law for almost 2 years now. I have done all this work pro bono, solely for Love for my Country and its Constitution.

    At the darkest times for my Family, I was afraid that the only ones who understood my writings were Aristotle who has been my champion for justice and the boCohorts who had me FALSELY ARRESTED out of fear my writings might inspire Patriots to form Citizen Grand Juries en masse.

    http://grandjury.blogtownhall.com

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    I hope that others “get it” as you have explained. In other words, Congress has codified and “amplified” what they wanted to re. constitutional principles and deviated from the original intent of the Framers.

    So, what we have here is this situation. There are a number of folks who have researched this very issue and have come up with various theories. They may be “right on” when it comes to their findings, but what happens after that is up for grabs. So, there are those who have come to the right conclusions (as you have laid out), but then the conspiracy theories start flowing. That is where many of us part ways! YES.

    This is not to say that there were not forces at work to try to subvert the power of the Constitution, but we cannot embark on all the speculations out there (which cannot be proved) that lead to theories that don’t hold up under plain scrutiny. In other words, to put it bluntly, many of them are crazy, looney, unsubstantiated, and……….utter nonsense. (I mean the theories, not the people )
    ******************************************

    There are various motivations for the RAP/AGJ DECEIT: GREED, INSANITY, STUPIDITY, FEAR, HATE etc.

    *****************************************
    As far as the “elders” and “white knights” are concerned, I did enough research early on as to the background of some of the principals and found them to be possibly dangerous individuals.

    ****************************************

    RAP/AGJ “elders” are every bit as “dangerous individuals” as bo.

    Think about it. Who was more dangerous: Hitler?
    Stalin?
    Mao?
    Saddam Hussein?

    Who is more dangerous now?
    bo?
    bill ayers?
    ahmadinejad?
    kim jong il?
    RAP “elders”?

    *******************************************
    As far as the “elders” and “white knights” are concerned, I did enough research early on as to the background of some of the principals and found them to be possibly dangerous individuals. People have gone to jail over the years from following the wacko advice of leaders of the sovereign movement, which is the wellspring of the present RAP and related beliefs. In my opinion, there is a certain money-making aspect to these leaders, and who knows what else.

    In another post you indicated that your false arrest was possibly made because of phone contact you had with RAP/GJ individuals.
    You were unsuspecting, but what about those patriots who have given pertinent personal information and even thumbprints to these leaders?
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    bill ayers began plotting to kill 25 Million Americans in the 1960′s. With the help of RAP, DHS & bo, he is getting closer and closer to his blood thirsty goal. No doubt all those foolish people “who have given pertinent personal information and even thumbprints” have been identified by bo’s regime for extermination.

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    NO WAY would I ever do that!! First of all, why would it be required? Secondly, who knows where that info may end up?

    Again, I have to say that you have written many good things, but this explanation is to me the most practical for the immediate situation we find ourselves in. Thanks for taking the time!

    *****************************************

    U R WELCOME! THANK U FOR YOUR GOOD INSIGHT AS WELL. FS

  26. Free Speech

    It sickly sad how the boBot’s lost their war on CW trying to infect this site with anti-Semetism and disinformation, so they formed their on blogs but all they can get to go their blogs are fools like them, so they come back to CW to try and do the same thing over and over again expecting a different result and then they find that more and more people have identified them for what they are boBOTS

  27. Jacqlyn Smith

    #

    Free Speech // June 13, 2010 at 3:21 pm

    It sickly sad how the boBot’s lost their war on CW trying to infect this site with anti-Semetism and disinformation, so they formed their on blogs but all they can get to go their blogs are fools like them, so they come back to CW to try and do the same thing over and over again expecting a different result and then they find that more and more people have identified them for what they are boBOTS
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    Leo..
    Smoking that dope just might land you back in the slammer….NO wonder you are delusional!!! People left here because of Y-O-U and your lies, rants and personal attacks….the ones that remain do so out of some kind of allegiance to CW…….for many though…..putting up with Y-O-U AND YOUR NONSENSE is just not worth it……that is the real reason folks are NO longer posting here on a regular basis so quit with MAKING STUFF UP TO SUIT YOUR DELUSIONS!

  28. Fernley Girl

    JS,
    I got REALLY tired of your evangelical ranting about RAP. Was glad to see you leave CW’s. Came back here after you left.
    Civility is an art. One that you should practice.

  29. Jacqlyn Smith

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    Fernley Girl // June 13, 2010 at 3:45 pm

    JS,
    I got REALLY tired of your evangelical ranting about RAP. Was glad to see you leave CW’s. Came back here after you left.
    Civility is an art. One that you should practice.
    ******************************************

    Right after you girl!

  30. Citizenship is about to get interesting.

    There’s a bill to change the current “definition” of who becomes a citizen.
    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Media/congress-mulls-bill-revise-14th-amendment-birthright-citizenship/story?id=10891360
    It will no doubt be spun by the left with all kinds of invective concerning illegal immigrants.
    *Possibly by people concerned about Obama’s citizenship, too.*

    The 14th amendment to the constitution talks about anyone born on US soil and “subject to the jurisdiction thereof” and it has been interpreted as anyone but indians ans diplomats.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution

    But, if you look at the oath of allegiance to become a naturalized citizen,
    http://immigration.about.com/od/uscitizenship/a/AllegianceOath.htm
    it looks clear to me that the current definition of “subject to the jurisdiction thereof” is wrong.
    In the naturalization oath, the alien has to “absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen”.
    Certainly looks to me like jurisdiction has to do with allegiances.

    Any comments?

  31. Free Speech

    Fernley Girl // June 13, 2010 at 3:45 pm

    JS,
    I got REALLY tired of your evangelical ranting about RAP. Was glad to see you leave CW’s. Came back here after you left.
    Civility is an art. One that you should practice.
    ***********************************
    Well Said, Fernley Girl! The discourse is so much better with the RAP NONSENSE & ANTI-SEMETISM.

  32. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    Jacqlyn Smith // June 13, 2010 at 3:37 pm
    ====================

    That may or may not be true – but it is immaterial.

    I dis-respect you dropping in out of nowhere, after being absent many days, and drop a Liar Liar Bomb on Leo as a pre-emptive strike before he even says anything.

    That is venom, that is hate, that is behavior appropriate to a broom rider.

    You like everybody else are welcome to your opinion. As long as you don’t spew pro-Arab pro-Muslim propaganda. That is never welcome. Nor does it seem to be the purpose and focus of this blog.

    Like William and others have pointed out – your heart seems to be in the right place and I do not classify you as a troll or an obot.

    Never-the-less, regardless of opinions and patriotism, civility is required.

    (No, I am not God – but I try where I can to smooth things out – and Leo will be the first to tell you that I have previously complained, hard, about his slings and arrows as well.)

  33. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    Free Speech // June 13, 2010 at 3:21 pm
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    PLEASE – I beg you – don’t go off on JS. (Yes, and sorry about the pre-emptive suggesting). Regardless of right or wrong, others of us have stated strong opinions in favor of civility.

    It would be most helpful if you just let it go. We know who is right and wrong. No need to grind on it. Let’s all just move on to the topics at hand.

    Thanks,

  34. Free Speech

    yo,

    Thanks for the post about the move in congress to a jus sanguinis imigration policy. That would be great for America.

  35. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    yo // June 13, 2010 at 3:48 pm
    =================

    Yes, and the 14th was SUPPOSED to be essentially a one-time, or limited offer, deal to fix a specific problem related to slavery. It was not supposed to disrupt the very concept and definition of citizenship forever.

    No more anchor babies!

    In fact that concept is so ludicrous and so ridiculous that any rational person would have to gag. It is a real WTF moment!

    Like “What WERE they thinking!?!?!?!”

    Just way beyond the pale. MUST be fixed.

  36. Some of us never had that lovin’ feeling in the first place, and they took a dive for creased pants?
    The Press and Obama: Where’s that Lovin’
    Feeling?
    http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/the-press-and-obama-wheres-that-lovin-feeling/
    June 13, 2010- by Neo-NeoconShare | Page 1 of 2 Next .
    It began, as many love affairs do, with infatuation. The MSM fancies itself to be a cynical watchdog, speaking truth to power and capable of toppling the mighty. But when self-described cynics fall in love, they can fall pretty hard.
    That’s the way the press fell for Obama, complete with unaccustomed leg thrills and oohing and ahhing over his perfectly creased pants. He was an ultra-liberal dream come true, the one they had been waiting for.
    But that was then; this is now. Obama has been president for a bit less than a year and a half, and during that time he’s increasingly treated the press with the callous disregard and outright contempt displayed by those who are so certain they are loved by a worshful underling that they fear neither abandonment nor loss of affection.
    (over)

  37. Free Speech

    Citizen Carlyle (FUBO) // June 13, 2010 at 3:58 pm

    Free Speech // June 13, 2010 at 3:21 pm
    ==========================

    PLEASE – I beg you – don’t go off on JS. (Yes, and sorry about the pre-emptive suggesting). Regardless of right or wrong, others of us have stated strong opinions in favor of civility.

    It would be most helpful if you just let it go. We know who is right and wrong. No need to grind on it. Let’s all just move on to the topics at hand.

    Thanks,
    *******************************************

    CC,

    I have always wanted to maintain civility. That is why I have posted:

    IGNORE THE boBot TROLLS! They only come here to CW to disrupt intelligent discourse.

    DON’T FEED THE ANTI-SEMETIC boBot TROLL. They will slither back to their ANTI-SEMETIC DISINFORMATION sites where they belong.

    And that is all I care to post on the subject. jaclyn & helen will got get a response from me to any of their IDIOTIC HATE POSTS.

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2010/02/winning-against-obots-and-astroturfers.html

  38. All of those involved could not have botched this worse if they tried hard.
    http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/breaking-coast-guard-head-was-informed-of-maine-oil-boom-on-521-yesterday-he-claimed-he-didnt-know/
    BREAKING: Coast Guard Head Was Informed of Maine Oil Boom on 5/21. Yesterday, He Claimed He Didn’t Know
    June 12, 2010- by Gregory SullivanShare | Page 1 of 2 Next -> View as Single PageAuburn, Maine, company Packgen has miles of oil spill containment boom on hand and has the capacity to produce upwards of 100,000 additional feet of boom a day. That inventory and that capacity has been available to help the Gulf Coast states for nearly a month. The news of this company was reported here at PJM four days ago, on June 8.
    (more)

  39. Fernley Girl

    The indoctrination has begun. Chanting “I am an Obama scholar.”

  40. Many of us enjoy the discourse and debate on this blog; none of us enjoy the diatribe. My own view is to completely discount any post with ad hominem attack and hatred.

    And I do kind of wish there was a word limit; if you can’t make your point in 250 words or less, it may be you don’t have a valid point.

    Have a great day!

  41. Yesterday I traded three emails with Karl Rove; he was quite courteous and explained his view on NBC, suggesting that BHO was qualified by being born of a US Citizen mom in Hawaii. I was able to brief him on an alternate view and confirm that he at least heard me out. I did not change his mind, but I sense he at least will look into the matter. I told him I enjoyed his book and appreciated his service to America, and that I missed the patriotic leadership under the Republicans.

  42. Fernley Girl

  43. Bill G,

    Did Rove say that he would get back with you on it after you showed him? That is very interesting. At least he seemed like he will listen.

  44. Obama too slow to respond, I would say he started in dead stop and amazingly 55 days later he is still in the same place.
    http://www.suntimes.com/news/huntley/2380658,CST-EDT-HUNT11.article
    Spill puts Obama on slippery slope
    Comments
    June 11, 2010
    STEVE HUNTLEY Sun-Times Columnist
    The politics around the BP Gulf oil spill border on hysterical, discredit our national leadership and exacerbate the already devastating economic costs of the worst environmental disaster in the nation’s history.
    The federal government’s handling of the disaster gets a worse grade in polling than did the government’s response five years ago to Hurricane Katrina’s devastation of New Orleans. Like President Bush then, President Obama now is criticized as having been slow to respond to a national crisis.
    Whatever value there may be in kicking BP’s butt, the oil giant has plenty of motivation to stop the leak: BP is hemorrhaging money — $1 billion so far — and faces such huge economic costs, penalties and lawsuit judgments that there’s speculation the firm may be driven into insolvency.
    As his handling of the crisis is dissected, Obama is reaping what he sowed — extravagant expectations based on the seminal idea of liberal politics that government is the answer to society’s troubles. In a well rupture a mile below the ocean, he and the nation have to face the stark reality of a problem beyond a Washington solution — no matter whose butt he kicks.

  45. Kittycat, Mr Rove made no commitment but read each of my emails and replied courteously to each one. Therefore, I know he read and understood them. I gave him the link to World Net Daily if he choose to read more on the topic.

  46. Jacqlyn Smith

    #

    Citizen Carlyle (FUBO) // June 13, 2010 at 3:54 pm

    Jacqlyn Smith // June 13, 2010 at 3:37 pm
    ====================

    That may or may not be true – but it is immaterial.

    I dis-respect you dropping in out of nowhere, after being absent many days, and drop a Liar Liar Bomb on Leo as a pre-emptive strike before he even says anything.

    That is venom, that is hate, that is behavior appropriate to a broom rider.

    You like everybody else are welcome to your opinion. As long as you don’t spew pro-Arab pro-Muslim propaganda. That is never welcome. Nor does it seem to be the purpose and focus of this blog.

    Like William and others have pointed out – your heart seems to be in the right place and I do not classify you as a troll or an obot.

    Never-the-less, regardless of opinions and patriotism, civility is required.

    (No, I am not God – but I try where I can to smooth things out – and Leo will be the first to tell you that I have previously complained, hard, about his slings and arrows as well.)
    *******************************************

    To the OH mighty blog DOG…

    First of all…..a comment was made about me from William……I was addressing him and never asked for you to chime in so your dis-respect is not needed……you are not the word police here and I don’t need your permission to drop in if and when I please so don’t preach to me from what you believe to be your HIGH and MIGHTY self appointed blog throne…..I don’t respect LIARS and I don’t put up with them either and as I requested of you before………quit trying to play GOD….George Burns did it much better…try practicing what you PREACH!!

    In case you don’t know…..I will say it again….CW lost many of his regulars who were on here long before YOU or Leo the Liar showed up on the scene….this was all due to the rantings and lies of Leo the FRAUD and his attacks on good American Patriots!!

    BTW….let’s get something straight….you started the slinging at me and yet accuse others of it…..that is NOT showing civility in my book on etiquette …….inferring I am a “witch” and calling others “whack jobs” is not my idea of someone trying to smooth anything out….speaking truthfully about what we know is important and is my concern….. the Liar needs to put a SOCK IN IT about things he knows NOTHING about….. as you should too….there….go ahead and WHINE some more….it’s so-o-o-o unbecoming of YOU….maybe you can get F Girl to join in too!! WA..WA…WA……when JS was gone we didn’t have to listen to anyone evangelizing about RAP…..WA…Now I will have to leave again!!! OH NO…..whatever will the blog DOGS do!!

  47. http://idiots4obama.blogspot.com/
    CNN’s Jack Cafferty Blasts Democrats for Punting on Budget, Highlights GOP Efforts to Hold Democrats Accountable.

  48. http://idiots4obama.blogspot.com/
    LOVE THIS WOMAN! Arizona governor to illegals: If your child is a U.S. citizen, take him back home with you…

  49. Rove needs http://www.repubx.com and http://www.citizenwells.wordpress.com to learn how BHO is much involved in Blego case.

    Does he not know you must have 2 parents that are U.S.citizens???? and most likely NOT born in Hawaii,he’s been fooled too.dOES Rove know he has spent 2 million $$$$$ to conceal all college,medical,student loans,thesis etc,etc???,Does he know Pelosi signed 2 DOCS after the Denver Convention?? Canada Free Press is the ref.
    Needs to read Manchurian President !!
    Needs article about BHO saying he is a Muslim and will show Muslims how to react to Israel article
    Atlas Shugs and http://www.repubx.com articles here

  50. Bill G.:

    From my experience, Rove is nothing but a Republican shill with close ties to Donna Brazille since prior to the 2000 election cycle. I suspect that he was in the middle of some kind of quid pro quo deal between the parties in 2008. He knows everything about BO’s eligibility issues and simply plays deaf, dumb and blind with the public. I too have exchanged e-mail with him, but he cut me off after the 3rd mail; so you must have more patience than I do. Anyone is free to e-mail him at: karl@rove.com

  51. Bill G // June 13, 2010 at 4:23 pm

    Yesterday I traded three emails with Karl Rove; he was quite courteous and explained his view on NBC, suggesting that BHO was qualified by being born of a US Citizen mom in Hawaii. I was able to brief him on an alternate view and confirm that he at least heard me out. I did not change his mind, but I sense he at least will look into the matter. I told him I enjoyed his book and appreciated his service to America, and that I missed the patriotic leadership under the Republicans.
    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    From out of nowhere:

    Thank you for contacting me regarding a person’s eligibility to run for the President of the United States. Blah, blah, blah……………………………

    blah, blah, blah………………………………………………………………………………………..(insert statute 14th Amendment, Constitution, etc/….

    In regard to President Obama, there are federal lawsuits pending in several states addressing this matter. However, as a U.S. Senator, I cannot intervene in the legal process and must defer to the courts to make the appropriate decision about these cases.

    blah, blah, H.R. 1503……..

    Jim Bunning
    United States Senator
    —————————————————–
    1) what’s your view on the lawsuits??
    2) if not a senator, what could or would you do??
    3) to defer to the courts?? you’re that naive or actually have faith in any court, state or federal??
    4) isn’t H.R. 1503 like shutting the barn door after the horse is out??

  52. Free Speech

    Enough is enough with the personal attacks.

  53. http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=165981

    Hot Dog! Now if they will just allow him to testify in court.

  54. http://www.orlytaitzesq.com

    http://www.protectourliberty.org

    Is Rove aware of the retired Army General that is calling for BHO to resign?? Wants special election
    article on http://www.wnd.com
    Does he like a Marxist in the W.H.??
    hOW ABOUT HIM DECLARING HE IS A Muslim??
    article on http://www.repubx.com this is what he told an ARAB MINISTER??

  55. Lots of NEW INFO http://WWW.ORLYTAITZESQ.COM

    Over 60 million know about OBAMA

    Updates send this to ROVE WAKE HIM UP!!

  56. “The former Honolulu elections clerk who says President Obama was “definitely” not born in Hawaii and has no birth certificate from any hospital in the Aloha State says he’s willing to testify in court to those facts.

    “The things I’ve said, I don’t mind testifying in court,” Tim Adams, the senior elections clerk for the city and county of Honolulu in the 2008 campaign, told WND in an exclusive interview.

    “I was working there, and this is what it was. I’m not a lawyer, just a civil servant. I know what I know. I know what I was told by the hospitals and by my supervisors.””

    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=165981

  57. Bankroller @ 5:11 pm
    Yes he and Brazille were up to something, his feigning dumb is ridiculous. If he doesn’t know the criteria and the laws of this nation he shouldn’t be working in government.

  58. JJ @ 5:28 pm
    the blah, blah, blah part is the only part that made sense.

  59. kittycat @ 5:30 pm
    kittycat since our government has so many problems with definitions NBC an example, I am here to help them- gratis. “Open secret” means everybody in the whole world knows except you (government) or are you playing coy with us?, may look good from a Southern Bell circa 1860 but it does not wear well in 2010. Modern inventions you know-telephones, internet, television.
    There is no birth certificate,” he said. “It’s like an open secret. There isn’t one. Everyone in the government there knows this.”

  60. Free Speech

    Mr. Adams testifying could break the bo regime. He is just up the road from Nashville. All Tennessee Grand Juries should request his testimony.

  61. Cody Robert Judy is 100 percent correct about the impeachability of a usurper.  Judy wrote in his “Re: Amicus Curiae on behalf of the defendant Lakin”:

    = = = Your pretense that somehow Congress could impeach a person ineligible to hold office actually is contrary to what would happen in the matter of an ineligible person who was sitting in the presidential seat of authority as a usurper. = = =

    Before the 2008 election, constitutional lawyer Dr. Edwin Vieira, Jr., set forth clearly the legal procedure:

    = = = Seventh, if Obama does become an usurper posturing as “the President,” Congress cannot even impeach him because, not being the actual President, he cannot be “removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors” (see Article II, Section 4). In that case, some other public officials would have to arrest him—with physical force, if he would not go along quietly—in order to prevent him from continuing his imposture. . . . = = =

    http://newswithviews.com/Vieira/edwin84.htm

    That fact alone shows Judge Driscoll’s decision is either the product of judicial ignorance or bias in favor of the alleged usurper.

    Such a gross error should be enough to null Judge Driscoll’s entire decision, but nothing remotely like that can take place while the D.C. regime remains entrenched.

  62. may look good from a Southern Bell circa 1860 but it does not wear well in 2010. Modern inventions you know-telephones, internet, television.

    Michelle, don’t be so sure everyone knows………
    a girl checking me out at a grocery store buying fish asked wy so much fish??

    Ready???

    She actually didn’t know about the oil catastrophe and I asked if she was….REGISTERED TO VOTE??

  63. Years ago Dr. Ballard said we know more about outer space than our Oceans. He will be on 60 Minutes in a half hour here in Florida. He had to invent quite a few things so that he could accomplish his goals. To me he is so interesting.
    http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=5774851n&tag=contentMain;cbsCarousel

  64. Free Speech

    Anyone needing assistance with Grand Jury Formation email:

    speech_free@rocketmail.com

  65. JJ @ 6:14 pm
    Still in a coma, yet walking around. How could anyone not know about the oil spill? She ought to be ashamed, or is so totally selfish that you would not want to know this person anyway.

  66. Again,

    Jacqlyn smith has always been pro constitutioalist, anti semite, anti islamic infiltration within our oen government. If you trust me, then you you must trust Jacqlyn Smith. She is indeed and has always been a pro advicatw agaist obummerb from early on. Thiose that may not wish to rerseach an entire years history of JC, you are losing out. I will and always have stood by her and if that is not good enogh, then I need to make reconsiderations myself.

  67. Jacqlyn Smith // June 13, 2010 at 4:40 pm

    Hope you have had a couple of good weeks.

    Look, we have had several weeks of good discussions here – a very compatible group, I must say, with only one or two exceptions. You are completely wrong in misjudging Free Speech, who is adding much in the way of certain knowledge he has. It is unfair to continue to label people, and I thought you had grasped that. Retaliation never does any good, my friend. Peace.

  68. Aussie Lurker

    I am an Australian who happens to love the USA. I have American relatives because my aunt was a war bride.

    Please do me a favour and stop JS and that Helen woman from posting their garbage and venom.

    Thank you

  69. I bringing this over from the previous thread:

    If we would follow Aristotle the Hun’s wise words, we would just ignore anyone – troll, or not – that doesn’t show themselves to be able to give and take, and make sense, regardless of their position. Likewise, someone who is STRONGLY opinionated and only wants to keep pushing and pushing, should have enough respect for the rights of the other bloggers to LAY OFF once and for all with respect to the volatile subject in question, imho. To keep it up incessantly is bad manners.

  70. National News in on NBC-Obama is coming to the coast again before his address to his nation on Tuesday, I’m not going to waste my time listening to his latest BS. The reporter said this WH is just “awakening to the scope of this disaster”. This entire group is unreal, absolutely unreal. So many people since minute one have offered help, technology, guidance and they still do not have a grip.

  71. I apoligise for the mispellings, again all thumbs here. I will defend JS and most likely she is being misunderstood. She is a wonderful person, getys excited at times at every opportunity to catch Barry and bust him, but trust, you wanr her on your side, she is on our side….

  72. Free Speech

    NBC: 50 K barrels a day spewing from bo’s oil leak and bo has no plan to stop the bo oil or to clean up bo’s oil.

    Bo is planning a another BS on Tuesday.

    Get your Grand Jury Indictments done. We the People must get this criminal out of our White House.

    http;//grandjury.blogtownhall.com

  73. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    GOM Oil Gusher Update

    I just put up a rather comprehensive
    report on Citizen News.

  74. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    William // June 13, 2010 at 6:41 pm
    ========================

    With some obvious reservations in the details, I agree with this big picture.

  75. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    Jacqlyn Smith // June 13, 2010 at 6:51 pm
    ========================

    Whether or not who caused what, things have been a LOT quieter and tamer here since you all left. That is just a fact. Interpret it how you will.

  76. More from National News re: Blue Fin Tuna this will affect East Coast folks, the person interviewed was from MA. This is spawning season for the Blue Fin Tuna in the GULF. The scientist was not sure if these little things will be able to survive, which means no fish, or a very depleted group, this fish is used for sushi.
    http://r3publican.wordpress.com/2010/06/02/oil-eating-microbes-could-the-answer-be-this-simple/
    I hope somebody has sense enough to use this and get the oil cleaned up in 6 weeks.

  77. Jacqlyn Smith

    William says…..

    I will defend JS and most likely she is being misunderstood. She is a wonderful person, getys excited at times at every opportunity to catch Barry and bust him, but trust, you wanr her on your side, she is on our side….

    Thanks William……many here have blinders on and see themselves as self appointed Blog Dogs and enjoy casting stones! Have a good one friend! 🙂

  78. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    William // June 13, 2010 at 6:41 pm
    =======================

    Great. If you are so tight with JS, maybe you can help with the one thing that is most needed in regards RAP:

    Encourage her to make a brief post here each and every time anything happens as predicted by RAP.

    And to be fair and square, each and every time a prediction fails.

    Then we can all keep an honest tally.

    If I remember correctly, JS was posting along here OK until she turned into a RAP evangelist. All I have ever wanted – and I think I reflect many people here – is an honest open assessment of RAP. In my opinion, by far the best thermometer is the hit and miss list I am suggesting.

    I am not going to make the list – people as close to RAP as possible need to do that. But from what I have been able to glean, so far there are a lot of misses and few if any hits.

    I am still waiting for the “arrested bond” Governor to fall over. That is and was my first big test. FAIL?

    Let’s just get the truth out into the open. No evangelism necessary. What was it someone once said? THE TRUTH SHALL SET YOU FREE.

    Please William – help us all out.

  79. Hawaiian elections official: I’d testify on Obama’s birth

    Clerk willing to swear in court president not born in Honolulu

    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=165981

  80. Free Speech

    The RAP/AGJ boBots are civil as long as Patriots do not question RAP/AGJ FAILURES to accomplish anything because that serves their purpose of deluding other Patriots into not forming legitimate Grand Juries for themselves and keeping bo’s criminal regime going until he can shut down the internet communications among informed intelligent Patriots.

    The reason the RAP/AGJ boBots are so offensive now is because they realize that Patriots are no longer fooled by them. Thousands of boBots are going to be indicted by Grand Juries and imprisoned for the crimes committed by
    the bo regime.

  81. Free Speech

    Aussie Lurker // June 13, 2010 at 6:37 pm

    I am an Australian who happens to love the USA. I have American relatives because my aunt was a war bride.

    Please do me a favour and stop JS and that Helen woman from posting their garbage and venom.

    Thank you
    ******************************************

    THANK YOU Aussie Lurker !

  82. Again,

    Call my stupid, call me ignorant (my words) but I still have no earthly idea what the hell RAP stands for or its information. Maybe I lost something something along the way of keeping up.

    I am not, nor will I ever be a conspiravy theorist, 911 truthers, little green lizard men alike, it loses value to this direect cause, in my experence, profeassionally and privatly.

  83. Still cannot type on this small board….(smile)

  84. Maybe if someone tells me what RAP is, other than the music, I can and will better position myself.

  85. Free Speech

    Meet JS’ “friend” Cody Judy

    “Codypendent”
    by Eric D. Snider

    Published in The Daily Herald on June 7, 2002In today’s edition of Crazy People Running for Office, we will discuss Cody Judy.

    On Feb. 7, 1993, Cody Judy interrupted a BYU fireside where LDS apostle Howard W. Hunter was speaking. Judy held a briefcase containing what he said was a bomb, and in his other hand he held what he said was a detonator. Those of us in attendance wet what we said was our pants.

    http://www.ericdsnider.com/snide/codypendent/

  86. Lurker,

    Helen is done for in my opinion, as I said previously, Helen of Troy…. JS is a different story, least for me. I am not up to date on her positions but I do know foe well over a year she was pro America and highly anti obummer. Did she get caught up in massive conspiarcy theoies? I don’t know.

  87. RAP is the Restore America Plan. They say the USA is a corporation and that O is the CEO and the US needs to go back to orig constitution because the corp. is not going by the constitution. So they elected their own new Pres, VP, Governors, etc. and O is not Pres anymore. He’s just there for show. We don’t know who elected these new govt officials, but they are it. No one will have to pay their mortgages and credit cards anymore. All debt is wiped out. The IRS will be dismantled.
    For a few weeks before she left JS was pushing RAP really hard here. If anyone questioned anything she said you were attacked, and told you were blinded by the corporation. That’s it in a nutshell, i think. Look up RAP and NESARA and Guardian Elders, etc. It is very new age and a complete sham, I think.

  88. CC and Free Speech,

    I am in obvious need need need of englightenment on what the hell RAP is. Please explain and give me some links to brief if possible. I fear this is some conspiarcy theory wacko group, but give it to me nonetheless. Thanks

  89. Oh yeah, look up sovereign citizens. The Rap people are into sovereign Citizenship.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sovereign_citizen_movement

  90. Free Speech

    U got that right, tennbrock!

  91. Thanks Tennbrock,

    I am fully aware of the Corporation nonsence and various readings as well as its conspiarcy theories. I was not aware of its comings from RAP and what it meant, its groups name, ect. My bad….

    I was also not aware that JS was a pro advacate of this group, my bad again.damm……

  92. R.A.P is a break off sect or cult from the Freemen a Christian Patriot movement based outside the town of Jordan, Montana. The members of the group referred to their land as “Justus Township” and had declared themselves no longer under the authority of any outside government. They became the center of public attention in 1996 when they engaged in a prolonged armed standoff with agents of the Federal Bureau of Investigation.

    The Montana Freemen espoused belief in the doctrine of individual sovereignty and rejected the authority of the federal government of the United States.

  93. Free Speech

    Thanks for the TRUTH about the very weird RAP, tennbrock.

  94. Re: Anonymouse // June 13, 2010 at 6:11 pm

    Cody Robert Judy is 100 percent correct about the impeachability of a usurper. Judy wrote in his “Re: Amicus Curiae on behalf of the defendant Lakin”:

    = = = Your pretense that somehow Congress could impeach a person ineligible to hold office actually is contrary to what would happen in the matter of an ineligible person who was sitting in the presidential seat of authority as a usurper. = = =

    Before the 2008 election, constitutional lawyer Dr. Edwin Vieira, Jr., set forth clearly the legal procedure:

    = = = Seventh, if Obama does become an usurper posturing as “the President,” Congress cannot even impeach him because, not being the actual President, he cannot be “removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors” (see Article II, Section 4). In that case, some other public officials would have to arrest him—with physical force, if he would not go along quietly—in order to prevent him from continuing his imposture. . . . = = =

    http://newswithviews.com/Vieira/edwin84.htm

    That fact alone shows Judge Driscoll’s decision is either the product of judicial ignorance or bias in favor of the alleged usurper.

    Such a gross error should be enough to null Judge Driscoll’s entire decision, but nothing remotely like that can take place while the D.C. regime remains entrenched.”

    # # # #
    Anonymouse, thank you for posting an excellent comment. I appreciate excellent comments like yours that add truth, wisdom, and knowledge. I’ll look at your cited sources.

    We can hope and pray that with enough Americans standing up publicly and outspokenly and putting pressure on the USA government officials to enforce the RULE OF LAW and THE USA CONSTITUTION in the USA, which is directly on the side of 400 + Million USA American Citizens, We The People, who will stand together and publicly DEMAND THE RESIGNATION of the 100% FRAUD AND THE 10o% LEGALLY INELIGIBLE
    ILLEGAL ALIEN & ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT, Barack (Insane) Obama II,
    who was not born in anywhere in the USA, who was born in Mombasa in Kenya, Africa, that the weak people who are getting paid to work in USA government jobs will do their roles in their jobs. If not, we will remove them, and Obama.

  95. Free Speech @ 7:49 pm
    The one thing I know for sure you cannot be a patriot and a traitor at the same time.
    The Gulf is entering Hurricane season.
    Tropical Storm Alex may form in next few days
    The first named storm of the hurricane season — Tropical Storm Alex — may emerge from a cyclonic system near Africa, the National Hurricane Center reported.
    At 2 p.m., the Miami-based agency issued a statement warning that an area of low pressure about 975 miles southwest of the southernmost Cape Verde Islands has become “better organized” today.
    Odds are 50 percent that the system will develop into a tropical depression — with sustained winds of less than 39 mph — within the next 48 hours, forecasters believe. If winds top the 39 mph limit, the cyclone will be named Tropical Storm Alex.
    The storm system is tracking west-northwestward at 10 to 15 mph.

  96. Tennbrock, RAP and Nesara are completely different things. I believe you are confused because there is a website that reports on RAP, Nesara, and new age stories, however they are not connected. You can read about RAP and what it is based on on the Restore America Plan site, and you will not see any new age stuff there. RAP is based upon law that anyone can look up (believe me, I have). For instance, the government you are familiar with is a corporation whose jurisdiction is only a few square miles in D.C.. This was formed Civil War era when Lincoln couldn’t get a quorum in congress, and the north didn’t want to be liable to anyone for what happened in the war. The politicians at the time played duel roles (American gov and corp gov), but that stopped when the Fed and DC were sold to foreign interests. The IMF currently owns the Fed. Obviously at that point there was a conflict of interest, so it could no longer be said that the politicians worked for the American people anymore. That is where it stands today. The current courts have stated that the American government has been abandoned (also something that you can look up). The US corporation now has control over you because you have given them consent (small print in things like licenses). D.C. is considered a foreign country to America (look it up; it’s in the US code and Congressional record). Unfortunately, we’ve all been taught a history that left out the most important parts (I know, I’m a history teacher). Most of what you hear about RAP on this blog, is rumor and poppycock. I understand people not “getting it”. You have to do the research to come to know the truth- I know that it was not believable to me until I looked up the law.

  97. William // June 13, 2010 at 8:33 pm
    If you haven’t been around here for a while you wouldn’t know. The sad thing is a bunch of CW’ers left with JS and are really into RAP and becoming sovereign’s. Greg Goss started a rap thread over at his site. I don’t have the address on me.

  98. cAN THE RETIRED GENERAL ARREST HIM??
    hOW ABOUT kERSCHNER??

    http://WWW.REPUBX.COM
    http://WWW.ORLYTAITZESQ.COM NEW INFO LOTS TO READ.

  99. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO) // June 13, 2010 at 1:54 pm

    Starla // June 13, 2010 at 5:23 am

    # # # #

    Thank you for the suggestions!! Of course, I want to obey and follow all copyright laws. I know how to follow copyright laws, and I do obey and follow them. I make it a point to properly cite authors, articles, sources, references.
    Sorry, if what I post is boring to you.

  100. Thanks Paulajal,

    Okay Wiliiam, here is a website that tells you the objectives…..
    http://www.restoreamericaplan.net/objectives/

  101. William // June 13, 2010 at 8:33 pm

    Re. JS – Yes, she is extremely involved in RAP and resents any statement that would question it even in a very nice way. Very defensive and combative when it comes to RAP – as are other strong advocates. I fear that someday at best they will be let down and disappointed, and at the worst, they may be set up for some nefarious purposes. Let’s hope not, for their sakes.

    Tennbrock – You gave a very good synopsis of the RAP movement, as well as Army D.A.V. on the sovereignty movement.

    I started out a long time ago by googling in Sam Kennedy, one of the originators. Very enlightening.

  102. Free Speech

    Michelle // June 13, 2010 at 8:53 pm

    Free Speech @ 7:49 pm
    The one thing I know for sure you cannot be a patriot and a traitor at the same time.
    The Gulf is entering Hurricane season.

    *****************************

    WMichelle // June 13, 2010 at 8:53 pm

    Free Speech @ 7:49 pm
    The one thing I know for sure you cannot be a patriot and a traitor at the same time.
    The Gulf is entering Hurricane season.
    *************************************

    When a Hurricane hits bo’s oil spill the oil will coat
    the landscape for miles inland polluting everything in its path, lakes, reservoirs, water treatment facilities, power plants etc., bo has caused the worst catastrophe in the history of mankind.

    The BP well did not blow accidentally on the eve of earth day. bo sent in swat teams to prevent investigation of this terrorist attack. Then he prevented efforts to cap the well and clean up until it was too late to prevent catastrophe.

  103. Folks we need to stay focused. CW has a lot of great talent on his site…that’s why it is one of my favorite spots on the net.

    I have a suggestion.
    Anyone care to put together an article covering the “Obama Legacy” I think it would make great reading material.
    Just a thought!

  104. Free Speech

    The goal of RAP & the bo regime is the same destruction of the Constitution, the US Financial System and the US Government.

  105. Re: LM // June 13, 2010 at 7:23 pm

    Hawaiian elections official: I’d testify on Obama’s birth

    Clerk willing to swear in court president not born in Honolulu

    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=165981

    # # # #

    Thank you for this fantastic post and link! I’ll send this information to Dr. Taitz, many lawyers, and other people.

  106. What makes teachers so gullible about RAP?
    It isn’t just the so-called facts RAP cites; it’s the solution it offers that takes more faith to believe than what most reasonable people have. Faith in people they really don’t know personally to select our national leaders? Faith that all debt will be cancelled? Faith that IRS withholding of taxes will end and IRS will be abolished? Faith that foreign countries are going along with RAP and are promising to give large amounts of money to help the USA? Give us a break!
    Some charismatic leaders have really influenced these folks to follow this dream of fantasy. Anyone who doesn’t share that “faith” is somehow less of a patriot and biased. Oh, I might add, there will be no more property taxes or need for regular auto licenses. And if anyone feels that I am wrong about this, you need to go to some of the blogs where RAPPERS congregate and read what they are saying.

  107. Free Speech @ 9:10 pm
    if this is proven to be espionage God help all participants.

  108. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    Starla // June 13, 2010 at 8:59 pm
    ===================

    You are not boring to me – it’s just that I would rather click a link and read article in original context. Also sometimes a brief synopsis is all I need to read.

    I was just trying to provide a positive suggestion. Didn’t mean to ruffle.

  109. Free Speech @ 9:10 pm
    This and more will be floating in-possible evidence of a crime?
    http://www.examiner.com/x-37561-Tampa-Headlines-Examiner~y2010m6d13-BP-oil-container-washes-ashore-in-Panama-City-Florida-oil-spill-videos
    BP oil container washes ashore in Panama City, Florida (oil spill videos)
    A BP oil container washed ashore in Panama City, Florida early Saturday morning closing a portion of the beach. Authorities identified the container by BP markings on the box. Though the container belongs to BP, it has not been verified whether the container came from the Deepwater Horizon oil rig, though many assume it did. Testing will be conducted to verify its origins.
    The container is described as standing 7’ tall and is made of stainless steel, the box was leaking oil on the beach when it was found. Bay County Sheriff Deputy Ray Maulbeck said that the container washed ashore while he was patrolling the beach early Saturday morning. The box was removed later that evening.
    Panama City beach is approximately 190 miles from the Deepwater Horizon explosion site.

  110. Re: Bill G // June 13, 2010 at 4:23 pm

    Yesterday I traded three emails with Karl Rove; he was quite courteous and explained his view on NBC, suggesting that BHO was qualified by being born of a US Citizen mom in Hawaii. I was able to brief him on an alternate view and confirm that he at least heard me out. I did not change his mind, but I sense he at least will look into the matter. I told him I enjoyed his book and appreciated his service to America, and that I missed the patriotic leadership under the Republicans.

    # # # #

    Bill, can you please post the email address you used to email and reach Mr. Rove?
    I would also like to email him much information. Thank you.

  111. Re: Citizen Carlyle (FUBO) // June 13, 2010 at 9:36 pm

    # # # #

    I’m not ruffled. You’re cute.

  112. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    Michelle // June 13, 2010 at 9:29 pm

    Free Speech @ 9:10 pm
    if this is proven to be espionage God help all participants.
    ========================

    There are too many coincidences. SOMETHING nefarious was/is going on.

    But unlike “truthers” I am unsure of who, what, when, why, or how. I just hope the PTB allow a comprehensive inquiry.

    It is not sufficient to simply find a scapegoat (someone’s ass to kick) but the real root cause and exact participants.

    Regardless of the cause, you can be sure the ecoterrorists will continue to milk this thing for all it’s worth.

  113. Free Speech

    Cabby – AZ // June 13, 2010 at 9:28 pm

    What makes teachers so gullible about RAP?
    It isn’t just the so-called facts RAP cites; it’s the solution it offers that takes more faith to believe than what most reasonable people have. Faith in people they really don’t know personally to select our national leaders? Faith that all debt will be cancelled? Faith that IRS withholding of taxes will end and IRS will be abolished? Faith that foreign countries are going along with RAP and are promising to give large amounts of money to help the USA? Give us a break!

    … And if anyone feels that I am wrong about this, you need to go to some of the blogs where RAPPERS congregate and read what they are saying.

    *************************************

    I find it hard to believe that any sane, reasonably intelligent person believes this RAP/AGJ NONSENSE!

    No, I have no doubt that the most egregious boBots who come to CW spewing this nonsense are sent here by the bo regime to create chaos and confusion so that we can not concentrate on productive efforts like the Tea Party & the Citizen Grand Jury movements.

  114. Michelle // June 13, 2010 at 4:11 pm

    Thanks!! Very encouraging.
    Also — from yesteday’s thread — Kudos to the synagogue for displaying the 10 commandments in the sight of passing drivers. My respect for the “children of Abrahma, Isaac, and Jacob” has no bounds.
    ++++++++++++++
    From the article:

    “But something has changed lately. Many of Obama’s supporters in the press have become increasingly perturbed as they have come to sense that there is something “off” about the man.”

    To this, I say (literally): Thank God!!

    o. is losing his “kool-aid” touch.

    The veil of deceit seems to be lifting all over the country. I’m looking forward to the ah-ha breakthrough, when the media managers finally get it.

  115. Free Speech @ 9:10 pm
    This is a situation that transcends all political parties-just everything-most people love animals, and hate to see them suffer. I saw one cartoon that was good-it was about the Titanic sinking, but they did not discontinue sailing ships, that would be ridiculous. The Titanic did not need to sink either just like this oil spill ordeal. Short cuts were taken, Dr. Ballard found out they used inferior rivets, which popped due to cold (70 or so years later)-too cheap to have enough life boats, too far north, well you know the list, but laws were changed. Now icebergs are watched via patrols, enough life boats per person-a mankind wake-up call.
    You know the expression “the mother lode”, is it possible this thing is a mother lode and it just happened to be discovered by the worst company, and we have the worst excuse for a potus-a perfect storm of stupidity (perfidy?)-maybe they are just that dumb. I can’t believe all the help the WON was offered and the idiot turned it down.
    On some level as a former Dem now Tea Party – the expression suicide by cop, this is like watching the Democratic party commit suicide by Obama. They shouldn’t even bother campaigning in the Gulf States or a state that borders them and I’m not even counting friends, family co-workers in other states.

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  117. !?!! @ 9:50 pm
    Rabbi’s 10 Commandments must be 10 feet tall and 5 feet wide or more I’m not good at measurements, but they are just beautiful. The synagogue is located at a very busy corner in our town.

  118. Re: Citizen Carlyle (FUBO) // June 13, 2010 at 9:40 pm

    Michelle // June 13, 2010 at 9:29 pm

    Free Speech @ 9:10 pm
    if this is proven to be espionage God help all participants.
    ========================

    There are too many coincidences. SOMETHING nefarious was/is going on.

    # # # #

    CC, I agree with you completely. There really is a great deal of evidence coming out that the Oil Spill Disaster was created to happen on purpose in a “false flag”
    to support BS/BHO’S and the Foreign and Domestic enemies he is working with to help bring about the end of the Sovereignty of the USA, which is what BS/BHO is working daily trying to do.

    That is only one of the reasons I am saying everywhere: IMMEDIATELY ARREST Barack Hussein Obama II, the Daily Serial Criminal and the 100% Treasonous Traitor who is ILLEGALLY sitting in Our White using a Stolen Social Security # 042-68-4425 that belongs to a deceased men who was born in 1890, that the CIA obtained for him because Barack Obama was truly born in Mombasa in Kenya, Africa, and not in Hawaii, or anywhere in the USA.

    Rev. James David Manning’s Columbia and CIA trial revealed that BS/BHO’s personal indientification documents and records were not sealed by himself, but where sealed by the CIA! Think about this.

  119. It is beyond time for a “physical meet up” tired of the bullshit fighting…show up to fight for OUR? country? We will met at the Congressionial archives..and re-educate the ignorant!!! I hate all scum regardless if you were born with a tan.

  120. Michelle, I couldn’t of said it better myself! The poor animals…people just dont give a crap about them.

  121. Should be: Our White House. Sorry.

  122. !?!! @ 9:50 pm
    This does not show the outside of synagogue but when I opened it they have latest news from Israel on there web-site so I thought I’d better send this along for our Jewish patriots.
    http://www.bethamiboca.org/Site/Welcome.html

  123. !?!!……too lttle too late for the media..PROSECUTE THE LYING SCUMBAGS TODAY!!!!

  124. Michelle // June 13, 2010 at 9:51 pm

    The “Perfect Storm of Stupidity” does not account for bo sending in the SWAT TEAMS to guard the site; not doing anything to assist in capping the well or cleaning up the oil. No, there have been too many deliberate acts on bo’s part making this catastrophe worse.

    bo has the same mentally as that other crazy muslim ahmadinejad. They both want “DEATH TO AMERICA.”

  125. confloyd @ 9:56 pm
    Many many care about critters, they are heart broken, I will have to face one of my girlfriends who I know will be despondent. Sure wish ASPCA would sue like a UN for animals, just to get to the truth and knock some sense into some humans. From what I understand BP was attempting to rush this oil well into production, cut corners, got sloppy and other huge errors. Can you imagine if you were living in a high rise that they built/constructed? Some things are best left with professionals, Tony Hayward is a corporate guy where they needed an experienced oil man who rose from the ranks, Tony probably just plopped into that job.
    The commercials down here are irritating already, will make it right….blah blah blah Tony you’re on day 57 3 more and its 2 months. In my opinion he and Obama are in an incompetent contest and they’re both winning.

  126. CIA and Obama SS#? Nope.

    Our undercover agents always have legitimate SS#. They are set aside for that purpose so no one will be exposed. I am 69 years old and my legitimate SS# wasn’t issued until 1987. You do the math. I am a member of AFIO.

    Agents for other countries as well as other scoundrels have SS#s that don’t check out.

  127. yo // June 13, 2010 at 3:48 pm

    I sure want nautralized citizens to give their full allegiance to our nation.

    Imo, too many are living here, enjoying the benefits of the “American way” while still operating out of loyalty to their own governments and countries.

    Merely being under US juridiction allows them that option, seems like.

  128. Michelle // June 13, 2010 at 4:16 pm

    Enough!! Charge this guy for dereliction of duty.

    Charge o. right along with him.

    Their failure to act is murderous.

  129. It has been confirmed by Larry S. and others that bo enjoys felatio by “older white men.”

    Why is that? Could it be that not only did typical white grandpa allow Frank Marshall Davis to rape his daughter and grandson, but that grandpa raped bo too?

    I know the depth of bo’s perversity is hard for normal people to contemplate but it is easy to see that bo is clearly insane.

  130. ILLEGAL ALIEN & ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT, Barack (Insane) Obama II,
    who was not born in anywhere in the USA, who was born in Mombasa in Kenya, Africa, that the weak people who are getting paid to work in USA government jobs will do their roles in their jobs. If not, we will remove them, and Obama.

    ********************

    FACT …………..ILLEGAL ALIEN & ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT, recovered API documents .

    FACT : legal name Barry Soetoro , Muslim , natural born citizen of Indonesia , son of Lolo Soetoro .

    Indonesia did not have dual citizenship at that time , all other citizenships , Kenya , USA had to be legally denounced by Dunham.

    Another Fact , only citizens of Indonesians were allowed to attend school.

    BTW : Indonesia was a police state at that time, step son , step father , just visiting didn’t happen .

    That’s it , all the rest is hearsay, stories , theories.

    Why does everyone here call it obama ?, the regime wants you to stay on the black African obama born in Kenya , Hawaii thing.

    If your going to go with the ILLEGAL ALIEN & ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT charge , then why call the freak obama ?, I don’t get it.

    His legal name is Barry Soetoro , he is a NBC of Indonesia.

    Initials would be B.S. not B.O

  131. !?!! @ 10:14 pm
    Aristotle the Hun @ 10:08 pm
    This has got to be killing guys and possibly gals like Aristotle the Hun-I’m sure they know a lot more than they can say, but they all know the inner workings of where they served and the rules, regulations that go along with their service.

  132. Michelle // June 13, 2010 at 4:49 pm

    Isn’t it great to hear a governor saying what the citizens want said?!!!!

    Gives ya that: ” Yeah! This is how it’s supposed to be” feeling.

  133. TRUTH NOW // June 13, 2010 at 5:48 pm

    Yeah! 13 million searches for Orly Taitz. Great news!

    The number keeps rising. People want answers.

    Maybe the o. fog is finally being lifted.

  134. !?!! @ 10:14 pm
    http://www.afio.com/
    Read this I’m sure that you will feel a lot better.

  135. ARMY D.A.V. // June 13, 2010 at 10:21 pm

    ILLEGAL ALIEN & ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT, Barack (Insane) Obama II,
    who was not born in anywhere in the USA, who was born in Mombasa in Kenya, Africa, that the weak people who are getting paid to work in USA government jobs will do their roles in their jobs. If not, we will remove them, and Obama.

    ********************

    FACT …………..ILLEGAL ALIEN & ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT, recovered API documents .

    FACT : legal name Barry Soetoro , Muslim , natural born citizen of Indonesia , son of Lolo Soetoro .

    Indonesia did not have dual citizenship at that time , all other citizenships , Kenya , USA had to be legally denounced by Dunham.

    Another Fact , only citizens of Indonesians were allowed to attend school.

    BTW : Indonesia was a police state at that time, step son , step father , just visiting didn’t happen .

    That’s it , all the rest is hearsay, stories , theories.

    Why does everyone here call it obama ?, the regime wants you to stay on the black African obama born in Kenya , Hawaii thing.

    If your going to go with the ILLEGAL ALIEN & ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT charge , then why call the freak obama ?, I don’t get it.

    His legal name is Barry Soetoro , he is a NBC of Indonesia.

    Initials would be B.S. not B.O
    ***********************************
    How about BSbo, ARMY D.A.V. ?

    Both are apropo for BSbo, IMHO.

  136. Cabby – AZ // June 13, 2010 at 9:28 pm

    I agree 100%.
    We all have a right to our opinions, however, when you disagree with them, its an all out attack. That in itself is unnerving. I never questioned anyone’s patriotism, just thought I was adding another dimension to the discussions. Strictly an open debate. But, geeze, they are not willing to see it from a different perspective.

    That behavior is very cult-like….very blind-sighted…..very worrisome!

    P.S. I will await the attacks….let me count the ways.

  137. I love this little ditty.
    http://carolineglick.com/
    We’ll have more versions for your download pleasure tomorrow morning.
    Meantime, our friend Pamela Geller at Atlas Shrugs has her own idea for how to evade the YouTube attempt to take us down. Check it out here.
    I suppose after a week and more than 3 million views, it’s hard to make something disappear.

  138. Aristotle the Hun // June 13, 2010 at 10:08 pm

    CIA and Obama SS#? Nope.

    Our undercover agents always have legitimate SS#. They are set aside for that purpose so no one will be exposed. I am 69 years old and my legitimate SS# wasn’t issued until 1987. You do the math. I am a member of AFIO.

    Agents for other countries as well as other scoundrels have SS#s that don’t check out.
    ****************************************

    What year did BSbo get his fake SS#?

  139. Anonymouse // June 13, 2010 at 6:11 pm

    “That fact alone shows Judge Driscoll’s decision is either the product of judicial ignorance or bias in favor of the alleged usurper.

    Such a gross error should be enough to null Judge Driscoll’s entire decision.”
    ++++++++++++++++++++
    I could not agree more with your conclusions. Biased and lacking in legal expertise.

    The military would be wise to deal with the bias and inaccuracies asap. The issue is sure to come up again and again in the coming months, especially is the case proceeds to the Supreme Court. CYA time for them.

    I can’t help but wonder if LTC Driscoll’s opinion was ghost-written by team-o.

  140. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    Starla // June 13, 2010 at 9:39 pm

    Re: Citizen Carlyle (FUBO) // June 13, 2010 at 9:36 pm

    I’m not ruffled. You’re cute.

    ================

    Aw shucks, blush blush.

  141. !?!! @ 10:41 pm
    Does anyone have any idea how many in the military may be with Lt Col. Lakin in spirit? Half the military, more than that? I just picture a bunch of guys like him getting together, discussing the issue and he volunteered to be the scapegoat, or drew the short straw. I think he is representing a larger group.

  142. I’m sorta scared…on facbook..anyone up for a road trip to DC? Congressonial Archives… to prove i was taught the truth..NBC are those born in a country to citizen parents??? tired of begging niece, nephew, their friends to ask their teachers…

  143. Michelle // June 13, 2010 at 10:48 pm

    !?!! @ 10:41 pm
    Does anyone have any idea how many in the military may be with Lt Col. Lakin in spirit? Half the military, more than that? I just picture a bunch of guys like him getting together, discussing the issue and he volunteered to be the scapegoat, or drew the short straw. I think he is representing a larger group.
    **************************************

    I’ve seen reports that it is 5o/5o pro/con bo, but among officers I expect the cons are much higher.

  144. Michelle….you really think so? that would be great…I have no back-up….sucks..I sure hope lt.Col.Lakins has back up……

  145. The Road to Official Sainthood
    !?!! @ 10:41 pm
    Mother Teresa is one miracle short of Sainthood, so I’m going to ask.
    Dear Mother-please send a miracle to the citizens of the United States of America so that all truths regarding B. Obama may be revealed and the United States may be free of the usurper.

    “The beatification of Mother Teresa was conducted Oct. 19, 2003 by Pope John Paul II. Many believe Blessed Mother Teresa will be named a saint of the Catholic Church someday, and her beatification is the latest step in that path to sainthood. “

  146. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    Hey William and other non-RAP Patriots
    =============================

    My favorite unanswered RAP question goes like this:

    Suppose you can just file a piece of paper to “arrest the bond” of a duly elected official and therefore effectively incapacitate them?

    Would you really want to law to work that way?

    Suppose you had a true blue Patriot elected Governor. Would like like it to be easy for some disgruntled skinhead or ACORN-nut to shut them down? Wouldn’t you want a really difficult laborious process, with lots of checks and balances, and levels of reviews, and appeals?

    Bottom line is this. Look at everything RAP stands for and everything they claim to know and everything they plan to do.

    Now, rather than asking “are they nuts and/or crypto obots?” – ask a different question.

    Would you REALLY want “the system” to work they way they say it works?

  147. Free Speech @ 10:52 pm
    Good thing they weren’t around at the Revolutionary War, they would have sold out George Washington cheap too.

  148. Margie @ 10:54 pm
    What he has that so many others are lacking is: honor, integrity, courage, fidelity to his oath and this is the short list.

  149. RAP demanded that Govs Brewer, Perry, Pawlenty & Jindal resign. Doesn’t sound like an ANTI-bo group to me.

  150. Re: ARMY D.A.V. // June 13, 2010 at 10:21 pm

    The Illegal Alien Foreign Born Domestic Enemy psychotic sociopath sitting in Our White House is using the name Barack Obama. I interchangably use the name Barry Soetoro/Barack Obama. Or I use Barack Obama for short, because the Serial Liar is calling himself this, and the world thinks his legal name is Barack Obama.

    Evidence has shown, his name was legally registered in school in Indonesia, by Lolo Soetoro, as Barry Soetoro. The Constitutional scholar and legal expert attorney, Mario Apuzzo, Esq. at the web sites http://www.puzo1.blogspot.com and at http://www.puzo1.wordpress.com has written in great detail and depth about the legal significance of Soetoro/Obama’s legal name questions and problems, with greatly instructive and helpful legal answers.

    I have tried to use Barry Soetoro/Barack Obama when publicly referring to him.
    For expediency, sometimes I simply use Barack Obama, because that is the public name he is calling himself.

    Army, please know, I definitely would not sue him using ONLY the name Barack Obama. I would sue him under the name of Barry Soetoro, and Barack Hussein Obama II, and the other aliases that he has used.

    Thank you for making your very accurate and your very excellent points, D.A.V. ARMY.

  151. Michelle..I real appreciate your kindness….I don’t know how to get people to focus on what is happening…..9/11 was not long ago…we were told next time it will come from inside…and it did…how in the hell did people forget???? sad thing is …it may have been a inside job as well…where are the MEN?????

  152. Starla…thanks for the info. Mario is another Man I admire…one day hope to meet him as well… CW..Michelle…LindaNY.Jacqlyn. Freepress. ….. many more Larry…too….we have such a hugh fight to fight….truth nothing but the truth so help us God…..

  153. HonorFirst // June 13, 2010 at 10:36 pm

    Cabby – AZ // June 13, 2010 at 9:28 pm

    I agree 100%.
    We all have a right to our opinions, however, when you disagree with them, its an all out attack. That in itself is unnerving. I never questioned anyone’s patriotism, just thought I was adding another dimension to the discussions. Strictly an open debate. But, geeze, they are not willing to see it from a different perspective.

    That behavior is very cult-like….very blind-sighted…..very worrisome!

    P.S. I will await the attacks….let me count the ways.
    *****************************
    Thanks for your input. Oh, yes…..the attacks…..
    well, one could say it goes with the turf. My feeling is that if real truth is involved somehow in RAP, then the truth can stand scrutiny. If there is falsity, then wouldn’t we feel regret for not ever having raised legitimate questions? That is a burden I wouldn’t want to have to live with.

  154. Cabby, I’m not gullible, merely educated on this subject. I said that RAP’s version of history is correct, and that is a fact (a verifiable fact). Whether or not they will be successful, is another question. But I can also tell you that the number of people who are learning the truth is growing exponentially. And I find it impossible to believe that the American people will tolerate being virtual slaves to a corporation once enough of them know about it; so I think something will give. There are many patriots on this blog. I’m sure that many know that something is not right. Oh, they may not know that they signed away their children on their wedding license application (true), but they know that something is very wrong. Our country is no longer what we thought it was.
    Whether or not RAP succeeds I know that we are like frogs in a pot of water being brought to a boil. I don’t know who will be our leaders if things boil over, but I can tell you that the RAP people are at least strong Constitutionalists. Even more strongly, they intend to protect the Bill of Rights (the BoRs is really what Obama and the rest of the oligarchy mean to destroy chunk by chunk).

  155. Michelle // June 13, 2010 at 10:48 pm

    I’d really like to know about the support LTC Lakin IS receiving from his comrades in arms. The media’s mission to keep us deaf, dumb, and blind about reality is absolutely infuriating.

    There’s gotta be so much more to LTC Lakin’s story and this case than what we’re hearing about, even on the NET.

    The powers that be do not want us citizens to know about ANY support for LTC Lakin within the military.

  156. Free Speech // June 13, 2010 at 11:01 pm

    RAP demanded that Govs Brewer, Perry, Pawlenty & Jindal resign. Doesn’t sound like an ANTI-bo group to me.
    **************************
    Wow! That’s true, because all 50 governors were supposed to have been served. If any didn’t agree then they would be replaced by ?.

  157. tennbrock –

    Re: Brock and Bodie

    Have you read ICON, yet? I’m waiting to get my hands on that one.

  158. Margie @ 11:05 pm
    I personally do not feel that 9/11 was an “inside” job, I think our government fell down on the job in more ways than one. The pilots who hit the buildings were trained to fly here in FL, no questions asked-the fire fighters and police could not communicate in the buildings due to bad radios just a combination of everything that could have gone wrong did. Hindsight will always be 20/20.
    A major problem for our country right now, is when the government and those who are elected to represent it are not truthful and out right lie and the people KNOW it-it can breed all kinds of conspiracy theories-Americans have never been highly trustful of their government but with Obama the supreme liar, (trained by the serpent himself ?) no one trusts Obama, no one should-this includes leaders of foreign countries especially. I wonder if the relationship with BP/Obama is good cop/bad cop or a back stabbing event?

  159. i know the MSM talked about all Govs getting a letter months ago..then silent….

  160. Margie // June 13, 2010 at 9:59 pm

    Before their arrests for treason, I’d enjoy watching them finally going after o., full force.

    I’d also enjoy watching them point fingers at each other, each network demanding the arrests of the employees of the other stations.

    Fireworks!!

  161. !?!! @ 11:13 pm
    “There’s gotta be so much more to LTC Lakin’s story and this case than what we’re hearing about, even on the NET. ”
    I agree, it would be very foolish of those who know a lot more or have access to more information than we do to reveal all.
    I’m beginning to think the Obama info will come from a foreign source, then our government is really going to look like spineless wimps, sell-outs and other creatures which crawl on the surface of the Earth. Can you see them afterward, they will not be able to show their faces in public ever again.

  162. lajal // June 13, 2010 at 11:13 pm

    Cabby, I’m not gullible, merely educated on this subject. I said that RAP’s version of history is correct, and that is a fact (a verifiable fact)…

    NONSENSE!

    but I can tell you that the RAP people are at least strong Constitutionalists.

    ABSOLUTELY FALSE THE RAP LUNATICS ARE RE-WRITING OUR CONSTITUTION!

    Please stop posting this <FALSE INFORMATION ABOUT RAP.

  163. Hi, Pauljal – 11:13 PM

    Thanks for your input re. RAP. I don’t question your sincerity or your research. In fact, I applaud you for being interested in our country enough to get involved, which so many do not want to do.

    Furthermore, I respect your right to your views about RAP; I just cannot personally get behind it, and I believe that their attempts will not have a good ending. It is all too nebulous. June 13th was supposed to be day for something “big” to happen….. Where is it? This is repeated over and over again. Someone should keep track of all of the promises made for certain dates, and then log in the postponements.

    It is absolutely astounding as to how much confusion there is about these predictions, postponements, secrecy, etc.

    And let me say, thank you, for presenting a respectful post, even though we don’t agree on this aspect of our patriotism.

  164. Michelle…..believe me…I never ever did think…our Government involved with 9/11…..but look what just happened?….the media lied…all politicans lied…soetoro did not meet eligibilty…and i did call and email the white house prior to the election…this is Bush’s fault!!!!

  165. Michelle // June 13, 2010 at 11:16 pm

    I wonder if the relationship with BP/Obama is good cop/bad cop

    *****************************************

    Exactly.

  166. Michelle –

    Thanks for the AFIO link.

    Aristotle the Hun — Thank you for your service.

  167. Michelle —

    I want them to never show their faces in public again because they are in jail for the rest of their lives.

    “Obama the supreme liar, (trained by the serpent himself ?)” LOL!!!! Most likely TRUE!

  168. Margie @ 11:27 pm
    as a former Dem now Tea Party/Hillary supporter-we learned early in the game that bad things were happening, so many, so weird we could hardly keep up. That is why we tried so hard to alert the nation, you see how far we got with that-up to this point. During the Bush admin I was not always a fan but with the exception of Hurricane Katrina there is not one time I didn’t feel that President Bush did what he did because he felt it was the right thing to do. I imagine we will have to wait to find out who did what to whom. Bush gets the perpetual blame for everything, but I don’t think you can put Obama at his door, but we will see. Could it be possible that they are all giving Obama enough rope plus a little bit more so that when he goes down it has to be in a spectacular fashion, so there is no doubt in anyones minds that Obama is a treasonous villain and to the world at large also.

  169. !?!! // June 13, 2010 at 11:14 pm

    I hadn’t even heard of that one yet, thanks for telling me. I looked it up on Amazon, that does sound really good.
    I just re-read the Shiloh series, that was great too. Set in the first depression.
    Hoping they get a 12th book out in the A.D. Chronicles series.

  170. Michelle // June 13, 2010 at 11:35 pm

    …there is no doubt in anyones minds that Obama is a treasonous villain and to the world at large also.

    ======

    AMEN to that sister

  171. ok..they are conspired together….all quilty..prosecute…they are millonaries do to the tax payer….criminals!!!!!!

  172. Sorry Leo, but you are not correct- no one is re-writing our Constitution. RAP says they want to go back to using it. Bold letters won’t make untrue information any truer. My information is verifiable as far as the history goes. I base my RAP claims on what they have written on their website and what I personally have heard Tim Turner say. As I said, if you can substantiate your claims I would appreciate it- I’m always learning more things. Please cite some reliable source for your claims, because if I’ve said something wrong I want to know it.
    I always tell my students that if you really want to know what a Democrat believes in, ask a Democrat not a Republican. Conversely, if you want to know what a Republican thinks, ask one (not a Democrat). This is not to say that you cannot judge by one’s actions.
    In the case of RAP, we don’t have many actions to judge (as Cabby aptly pointed out). So I’m going to assume that what they say is what they believe until proven otherwise.

  173. Lisa G in NZ @ 11:40 pm
    Lisa you’re in a foreign country, what do the folks over there think of our lunatic?

  174. Michelle // June 13, 2010 at 11:16 pm
    Americans have never been highly trustful of their government but with Obama the supreme liar, (trained by the serpent himself ?)
    ___________________

    I don’t think I know of a time when people were as suspicious of the govt. as they are now, ever since BS/BO. I think especially since people are starting to see how anti-American he and his cohorts are.

  175. tennbrock @ 11:46 pm
    I think the DNC/Obama made some kind of suicide pack and they are succeeding beyond their widest imagination. When Obama is a done deal, so will go the Democratic party, it was their choice so be it.

  176. To the question why don’t you Democrats tell us how you really feel. My best guess this is 90 per cent of the former Dems who are now Tea Party and will vote Republican for the most part.
    http://www.hillaryis44.org/
    June 12th, 2010
    Superman Obama Sucks
    Obama weakness gushes forth. Obama vulgarities gush forth. Obama excuses gush forth. You might say Obama is all “wee weed” up.
    Last time Obama was all “wee weeded” up he went for a wee vacation on Martha’s Vineyard. Now weak-kneed Obama is looking to “kick ass” (inducing general laughter at the thought of the string-bean from Chicago making physical threats and pretending he has testicular, um, fortitude), and confessing his inability to suck well. Can the boob do anything right?
    Obama’s latest whine? “I’m no Superman” exclaims the exasperated One.

  177. Anonymouse —

    In my post to you . . .

    I know you know that that should be a colon after “your conclusions,” not a period. lol

    Since I agree with you, I, of course, think your conclusions are brilliant beyond compare, not “biased and lacking in legal expertise.” lol

  178. Paulajal @ 11:44
    In the case of RAP, we don’t have many actions to judge (as Cabby aptly pointed out). So I’m going to assume that what they say is what they believe until proven otherwise.
    ______________________
    Actually, in the case of Rap you can certainly judge them by the Guardian elders ( who comes up with these titles?) Search their names on the internet. They have the answers and go around teaching people how to avoid foreclosure and avoid bankruptcy, see how many times Tim Turner has filed for BK, how many houses have they been able to keep? I know Jerry Kane was involved, before he killed the 2 officers in Memphis, he was going around the country training people right after he lost his own house to foreclosure. If he couldn’t even keep his own house, how is he going to help other’s?
    None of it makes sense, none of the things they say will happen have happened, and they all have their own iffy backgrounds themselves. If you want to put your faith in something like that, more power to you; I will keep my faith in God alone.

  179. What good is it to give these RAP boBots any credence? All they do is post false info that confuses those who have not read the excellent debunking of all RAP nonsense by tennbrock, CC, Cabby and other true Patriots.

    I am all for civil discussions but once the RAP boBots show their true colors, it is best to

    IGNORE THE boBots TROLLS!

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2010/02/winning-against-obots-and-astroturfers.html

  180. Michelle // June 13, 2010 at 11:48 pm
    In that case, I can’t wait til they succeed!
    I do think they all have so much info on each other that they are all just being blackmailed to death.

  181. This hit our papers today, arrests more to follow.
    tennbrock @ 11:56 pm
    http://www.sun-sentinel.com/fl-housing-fraud-adverse-possession-20100613,0,3594273.story
    Squatters take over S. Fla. homes in what police call latest fraud in housing crisis

  182. Michelle // June 13, 2010 at 11:35 pm

    Margie @ 11:27 pm
    as a former Dem now Tea Party/Hillary supporter-we learned early in the game that bad things were happening, so many, so weird we could hardly keep up. That is why we tried so hard to alert the nation, you see how far we got with that-up to this point
    +++++++++++++++++++++
    C.W. used to have a link posted here to the Impeach Obama site.

    What you say reminds me of what the Illinois citizens at that site said. They had been working to get Senator o. impeached.

    Before the primaries, these citizens were also trying to alert the nation to their misgivings. They even cited his involvement in the Chicago corruption.

    So interesting, and also strange, how many see so clearly that o. is terrible news and how many saw and still do see him as the best news ever.

  183. tennbrock // June 13, 2010 at 11:56 pm

    Paulajal @ 11:44
    In the case of RAP, we don’t have many actions to judge (as Cabby aptly pointed out). So I’m going to assume that what they say is what they believe until proven otherwise.
    ______________________
    Actually, in the case of Rap you can certainly judge them by the Guardian elders ( who comes up with these titles?) Search their names on the internet. They have the answers and go around teaching people how to avoid foreclosure and avoid bankruptcy, see how many times Tim Turner has filed for BK, how many houses have they been able to keep? I know Jerry Kane was involved, before he killed the 2 officers in Memphis, he was going around the country training people right after he lost his own house to foreclosure. If he couldn’t even keep his own house, how is he going to help other’s?
    None of it makes sense, none of the things they say will happen have happened, and they all have their own iffy backgrounds themselves. If you want to put your faith in something like that, more power to you; I will keep my faith in God alone.
    *******************************************
    Well Said, tennbrock

  184. tennbrock // June 13, 2010 at 11:40 pm

    Welcome.

    I’ve read that the Shiloh series is based on the authors’ own families.

    I’m waiting for #12, too.

  185. tennbrock @11:59 pm
    There is nothing so gross that I could not endure rather than bear the stigma of a traitor. Sex scandals are good for about a week, Tiger etc., after the initial barf it’s old news-lately so much of it it has become boring. Most normal people, most people you know do not act like that-we know that.

  186. !?!! @ 12:02 am
    Is this the site you were thinking of?
    http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/obamaimpeachment/

  187. truthbetold11

    Boy the anti rappers come out of the closet. The rap is not perfect nor is it for everyone. u have a better plan that can be impletmented on a massive scale let me know.

  188. Nixon Resigns
    Agnew Resigns
    Palin Resigns

    Come-on Obama
    You can do it,
    Resign!

  189. hapnHal @ 12:18 am
    what a lovely poem, followed by an immediate arrest. He would rat out the others in a heartbeat.

  190. Michelle // June 13, 2010 at 11:45 pm

    Lisa G in NZ @ 11:40 pm – Lisa you’re in a foreign country, what do the folks over there think of our lunatic?

    =======

    From the biggest paper, the NZ Herald: Mostly we get one or two stories from sources such as AP or Reuters: all left wing biased pap. All sappy, lovey hopey dopey pro BHO stuff. Or at least never very negative.

    There was an article about 3-4 months ago about “talking to TEA baggers…” which of course infuriated me.

    Today, there is an article “Obama must convince public he’s in control” with “But the American public expects the White House to demonstrate control of the situation, and now polls put the government’s response to the disaster as worse than the Bush administration’s response to Hurricane Katrina, a failure from which Mr Obama’s predecessor never recovered.”

    So even way down here, more CRITICAL eyes are noticing the complete LACK of leadership by TheWon…

    (about time)

    A great blogger for anyone in the world to read is Trevor at: NewZeal.blogspot.com

    He is doing some great investigations into all the communist W.House connections… check it out if you haven’t.

    So we’re still switched on down here.

    Waiting for the illegal usurper to be ousted or for Jan 2012 landslide victory by (Sarah Palin perhaps) a true conservative.

    carry on….

  191. Lisa G in NZ @ 12:22 am
    Lisa thank you so much for the info, sometimes we can see America better through a foreign countries eyes.
    Bush-Katrina response 3 days to a week (erring on the side of caution-can’t remember completely)
    Obama-Gulf Oil Spill 57 days.
    Hello, no comparison.
    Bush endured non stop criticism, Obamas I hope is just starting.
    Hello world this guy is a YUTZ, no kidding and he amazingly gets worse by the day, he can’t even learn from his errors.

  192. Re: Aristotle the Hun // June 13, 2010 at 10:08 pm

    CIA and Obama SS#? Nope.

    Our undercover agents always have legitimate SS#. They are set aside for that purpose so no one will be exposed. I am 69 years old and my legitimate SS# wasn’t issued until 1987. You do the math. I am a member of AFIO.

    Agents for other countries as well as other scoundrels have SS#s that don’t check out.

    # # # #

    Unfortunately, for all Americans and for all people on earth, some of our USA CIA agents are working for the “One World Government/New Word Order” crowd because the bribes being offered to them are so huge. You see, a few CIA agents have fallen into sins and have taken bribes and are not always doing legal, moral, and ethical things as CIA agents are legally, ethically, and morally required to do. Please understand this is the reality and the truth of the situation we are in. This sad state of affairs has been going on for years. Some horribly sinful people were bribed to sell out their country and people, and yes, some weak sinners who are horribly sinful people did do this.

    Look at Gov. Linda Lingle who is publicly lying about the (not being admitted publicly as seen by her) legal “validity” of a Barack Obama’s “original long-form Hawaii birth certificate being legally on file and held in Hawaii.” Look at the other people working in the Hawaii Dept. of Records, such as physician, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, the Director of the Hawaii State Department of Health, who is publicly lying when she states she has seen “The original vital records of Barack Obama, and Barack Obama who was born in Hawaii, is a Natural Born Citizen.”

    Unfortunately, these two persons above, Gov. Linda Lingle, and Dr. Chiyome Fukino are definitely both lying to the American people. I will be writing to them letters explaing how I know they are publicly lying, and that they must repent to GOD and to ALL of the American Citizens about their public lies they are saying.

    Lord Jesus Christ has shown to me, in Person to me, what I know.

    When you say, “Agents for other countries as well as other scoundrels have SS#s that don’t check out,” this is exactly what happened in Barry Soetoro/Obama’s case.

  193. Starla
    FS

    I like to use his real name because it’s taboo for for anyone in the news media or government to use it.

  194. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO) // June 13, 2010 at 10:55 pm
    Hey William and other non-RAP Patriots
    Bottom line is this. Look at everything RAP stands for and everything they claim to know and everything they plan to do.
    Now, rather than asking “are they nuts and/or crypto obots?” – ask a different question.
    Would you REALLY want “the system” to work they way they say it works?
    **************************************
    You make a very good point, CC. The problem is that we are always told to do the necessary study. The supporters don’t seem to be able to address specific points. Frankly, I’m getting tired of even discussing this,
    because it raises so much heat. One who visited here today has gone back “home” and transferred some of my comments to that site, which, to me, is very unethical without asking my permission. Occasionally I blog there but never about this subject, because it wouldn’t be in keeping with the spirit of that blog. As a result, now I am placed under attack over there. It’s OK (If you can’t stand the heat, then get out of the kitchen – right?)

  195. Lisa NZ @ 12:22

    A great blogger for anyone in the world to read is Trevor at: NewZeal.blogspot.com
    _____________
    That is a great site! I even emailed a link to Glen Beck to Trevor’s site way back when Glen was talking about Van Jones. Trevor Loudon has a ton of info.

  196. Michelle // June 14, 2010 at 12:32 am

    Lisa thank you so much for the info, sometimes we can see America better through a foreign countries eyes.

    ======

    Well, our current NZ prime minister John Key is very much pro-UN and wants to keep nice nice with America for trade purposes. So NZ in general likes America… but I have heard a lot of anti-Bush sentiments down here (sadly) because of the non-stop leftist hatred in the news 8 years prior to Obumbles taking over.

    NZ ers feel safe down here. They don’t have the gung-ho warrior / military background of America. NZ has an advanced unit in Afghanistan though and NZ lost more men in WWII proportionally than other western nations.

    But then the 60’s happened. Now its all anti-nuclear, greeny, peace, love man… in fact I think NZ was named most peaceful country on some recent list.

    I’m not to thrilled about the pro UN thing and NZ is up in arms as we’ll probably be the first nation to start TAXING energy and petrol.

    Not a great way to help tiny NZ grow: tax the beeejeebuss out of ’em.

  197. That was back when I still watched GB and I thought he actually wanted to get to the truth about everything.

  198. (carbon taxes that is…. yep TAX THE AIR)

    crap-ola

  199. tennbrock // June 14, 2010 at 12:43 am

    I believe G.Beck HAS mentioned “a blogger down in NZ…” so Trevor does dig G.Beck.

    (I have asked Trevor: why GB won’t discuss eligibility … something fishy there as we know)

  200. If I find a comment I absolutely love and agree with, I bring it here and give a hat tip. Isn’t that ok?

    Like this one:

    “Government Debt has nothing to do with me. It is the debt of tyrants and is created by their decisions and wars, not mine. Therefore the debts are odious and do not apply to me.”
    h/t FreetoProsper

  201. Here is a link about Soetoro/Obama’s COLB’s I found using:

    http://www.ixquick.com.
    http://www.startpage.com

    http://www.theobamafile.com/ObamaCOLB.htm

    I do not use Google.com. Google is owned and operated by Obama supporters & Obots and records and sells ISP addresses for bad reasons.

    http://www.theobamafile.com/ObamaCOLB.htm

  202. Michelle… thx

    Lisa G…foreign input.

    Just ran accross this site.

    http://blogs.america.gov/

    Check out Obama blog comments. Most are from foreign sources…. they love him. Perhaps we need to make a few posts on this site.

  203. hapnHal // June 14, 2010 at 12:57 am

    ====

    Seeing as ” This site delivers information about current U.S. foreign policy and about American life and culture. It is produced by the U.S. Department of State’s Bureau of International Information Programs. ”

    I’m not to worried… more propaganda if anything.

    Are Americans truly worried about what a lone commenter says from Nigeria? (well unless he has a great uncle who needs you to deposit a huge sum of $$ so you can get some of it?)

    🙂

  204. RE: ARMY D.A.V. // June 14, 2010 at 12:38 am

    Starla
    FS

    I like to use his real name because it’s taboo for for anyone in the news media or government to use it.

    # # # #

    I feel the same exact way you do. We all must simply say the TRUTH openly, and the people who are liars either are going to have to repent to GOD for their own Immortal Soul’s sake in front of GOD ALMIGHTY, and beg forgiveness of GOD ALMIGHTY, THE FOREVER LIVING CREATOR, for their lies and sins against GOD and humanity and repent and correct themselves, or they will face the TERRIBLE WRATH OF ALMIGHTY GOD IN THE ANGER OF THE ALL-HOLY,
    ALL RIGHTEOUS, and ALL TRUTHFUL JUDGMENT OF GOD in the days to come…..

    Yes, the ALL HOLY, and ALL TRUTHFUL, ALL RIGHTEOUS, Terrible Judgment of GOD ALMIGHTY, the Creator, the Most Holy Trinity is coming very soon in this generation, and will happen to ALL people who ever lived on the face of this earth.

  205. A VERY TRUTHFUL AND ACCURATE ARTICLE IS HERE:

    “SWAP LINES”

    By Lame Cherry

    http://www.lamecherry.blogspot.com/

    Please go here and read this GREAT ARTICLE!!

    Author Lame Cherry is sending the truth and the accurate facts in it.

  206. “Investigators: Obama Using Connecticut Soc. Sec. Number”

    Posted by smoothstone

    “More Reasons NOT To Trust The Trojan Horse MUSLIM Sleeper Cell That Calls Himself Obama.” Via WND

    http://smoothstoneblog.com/2010/05/investigators-obama-using-connecticut-soc-sec-number.htm/comment-page-1#comment-41095

    # # # #

    A MUST READ Interesting Post:

    http://smoothstoneblog.com/hey-whos-the-guy-with-the-sword

  207. AZ-legal citizen

    What is wrong with the state of IL; that they will allow UNIL to hire a terrorist like Bill Ayers? And how many more? To teach our kids? That may be the big question..

  208. Free Speech

    y – AZ // June 14, 2010 at 12:42 am

    Citizen Carlyle (FUBO) // June 13, 2010 at 10:55 pm
    Hey William and other non-RAP Patriots
    Bottom line is this. Look at everything RAP stands for and everything they claim to know and everything they plan to do.
    Now, rather than asking “are they nuts and/or crypto obots?” – ask a different question.
    Would you REALLY want “the system” to work they way they say it works?
    **************************************
    You make a very good point, CC. The problem is that we are always told to do the necessary study. The supporters don’t seem to be able to address specific points. Frankly, I’m getting tired of even discussing this,
    because it raises so much heat. One who visited here today has gone back “home” and transferred some of my comments to that site, which, to me, is very unethical without asking my permission. Occasionally I blog there but never about this subject, because it wouldn’t be in keeping with the spirit of that blog. As a result, now I am placed under attack over there. It’s OK (If you can’t stand the heat, then get out of the kitchen – right?)
    ****************************************
    Whether the RAPbots are boBot Brownshirts, fools or lunatics really doesn’t make a difference. The point is that they disrupt intelligent discussions. It is best simply to ignore them.

  209. The Ratio for the Military not trusting Obama is NOT 50:50. Its More Like 70:30. Trust Me, there are more Military people against Obama than for. Also Remember, there is a GAG order on the Military. Jobs being like they are, no one in the Military wants to risk loosing their position in the Military. Obama is still their Commander in Chief. They don’t Like it, but they are under ORDERS from the Pentagon not to say or do anything against him. According to a Civilian Pentagon Worker that Called into the Michael Savage Show, all the Employees at the Pentagon are Scarred of loosing their Jobs or getting BAD EVALS. That is why they are still following orders. Follow the White House Rules, and get 5.0’s across the board for your Evals.

  210. Emudude,
    I agree that less are supportive than is said. Just look at the vids when O goes to see the military, versus when Bush would go. They would go nuts when Bush came, with O the silence is deafening.

  211. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    truthbetold11 // June 14, 2010 at 12:14 am

    Boy the anti rappers come out of the closet. The rap is not perfect nor is it for everyone. u have a better plan that can be impletmented on a massive scale let me know.

    ============================

    First:

    I am not essentially anti-RAP, I am more properly described as a skeptic. If you want more respect, answer the questions.

    Second:

    What a gory logical FALLACY! “Any plan is better than no plan”. This is so patently false that it is hardly worth rebutting, but I will.

    a) There are infinitely more bad plans than there are good plans. Therefore the probability that “any plan” is better than nothing is vanishingly small.

    b) This is the Obamessiah’s central message of Hopey Changey. Obama postulates that the world is not perfect the way it is. Vote for me and I will change it. Again the assumption being that any change is better than doing nothing.

    I wish you all could see yourselves in a mirror or at least read what you write. I will be nice and just say it is “depressing”.

    At MOST, RAP is worth watching. It is certainly not worth blindly following, nor promoting. But the other extremely frightening thing is that there is at least a 50/50 chance that RAP is bad for the country and harmful to the participants. Improper concern for details can get you burned BAD.

    Me? I’m too prudent for that.

    Again – a really good start in the proper search for TRUTH – Answer the questions!

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