Blagojevich trial, News and insight, April 27, 2010, Blagojevich Obama Blackwell, Pay to play politics, Dan Shoman, Blagojevich and Blackwell, Alexi Giannoulias

Blagojevich trial, News and insight, April 27, 2010

Here is another Obama, Blagojevich triangle, another example of pay to play politics in Chicago, IL.
Remember the email I received from Robert Blackwell of Killerspin shortly after I followed up on the LA Times story about Obama, Blackwell and Dan Shoman, Obama’s former campaign manager?

Obama, Blagojevich, Blackwell
“The Los Angeles Times, in an article dated April 27, 2008 reveals
that Obama received a $8,000 a month retainer from Robert Blackwell
for his technology firm, Electronic Knowledge Interchange,
for a total of $112,000. The following exerpts are from the LA times
article:
“A few months after receiving his final payment from EKI, Obama sent a request on state Senate letterhead urging Illinois officials to provide a $50,000 tourism promotion grant to another Blackwell company, Killerspin.”

“With support from Obama, other state officials and an Obama aide who went to work part time for Killerspin, the company eventually obtained $320,000 in state grants between 2002 and 2004 to subsidize its tournaments.”

“But Obama portrays himself as a lawmaker dedicated to transparency and sensitive to even the appearance of a conflict of interest.”

“Killerspin’s owner, Blackwell, was a political supporter and friend as well. Both men lived on Chicago’s South Side. Blackwell, a savvy and successful entrepreneur, was one of the first donors to Obama’s early campaigns, including the state senator’s failed bid for a congressional seat in 2000. In the presidential race he is credited on Obama’s website with committing to raise $100,000 to $200,000 for Obama’s campaign.””

Robert Blackwell and Rod Blagojevich

The following is from a news release by EKI Consulting:

“BLACKWELL JR. NAMED TO ILLINOIS GOVERNOR’S TRANSITION TEAM

November 11, 2002

CHICAGO – Robert Blackwell Jr., CEO and founder of Electronic Knowledge Interchange Inc., has been named to the transition team of Governor-elect Rod Blagojevich.

Blackwell’s appointment to the 14-member group was announced at a downtown news conference. The transition team will advise Blagojevich on putting together his state government management operation. Blagojevich will be sworn into office on January 13 and the transition team meets next week. “”

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From above:

“With support from Obama, other state officials and an Obama aide who went to work part time for Killerspin”
The Obama aide was more than just an aide.
“Dan Shomon was a long time employee of Robert Blackwell and Barack Obama as well as main political advisor to Obama.

Obama initiated the request for Robert Blackwell company Killerspin to receive a grant from Illinois and made the request on official Illinois Senate stationery.

Shoman, while an employee of both Blackwell and Obama secured grants for Blackwell company Killerspin:
$200,000 grant for its 2003 tournament
$100,000 grant for its 2004 tournament”

“Obama supported the re-election of Gov. Rod Blagojevich, whose administration is embroiled in corruption probes.

EKI, a Blackwell company, gave $20,000 to Blagojevich.
Electronic Knowledge Interchange won $6 million in technology consulting and software development contracts. EKI did no state
work until after Blagojevich took office.
(* reference 2)

Robert Blackwell Companies gave the following to Obama’s campaign in 2007:

BLACKWELL CONSULTING SERVICES $9,200.00
EKI  $6,925.00
KILLERSPIN  $16,500.00
(* reference 3)

Dan Shoman was referred to as an Obama aide in the LA Times article but he was much more than that:
October 2002
“He (Obama) consulted with Shoman, still his main political adviser”
(* reference 4)

April 13, 2006

“Like the ill-advised connection to Obama in Aurora, thanks to Dan Shomon, Obama is mentioned in the same discusion with all these problems with Giannoulias.”
“Shomon’s main activities are political campaigns and helping Obama and his friends like Alexi Giannoulias who is now the Treasurer for the State of Illinois.”
“We think it’s HIGHLY unethical of Dan Shomon or Tom Weisner to exploit the taxpayers of Aurora for political purpose. Barack Obama’s credibility is also risked in the process of Shomon and Weisner’s games at the expense of taxpayers.
“Aurora Mayor Thomas J. Weisner gave Shomon the lobbying gig in exchange for political work, including getting the endorsement of Barack Obama back in 2005 when Obama first said he would remain “neutral” in the heated mayoral race.”
“In the 2006 Democratic primary, for example, Obama endorsed first-time candidate Alexi Giannoulias for state treasurer despite reports about loans Giannoulias’ family-owned Broadway Bank made to crime figures. Records show Giannoulias and his family had given more than $10,000 to Obama’s campaign, which banked at Broadway.”
(* reference 5)”

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To learn more about Rod Blagojevich, Tony rezko, Barack Obama, et al and the events leading up to the Blagojevich trial visit:

Blagojevich Trial 101

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104 responses to “Blagojevich trial, News and insight, April 27, 2010, Blagojevich Obama Blackwell, Pay to play politics, Dan Shoman, Blagojevich and Blackwell, Alexi Giannoulias

  1. I LOVE this video! I can’t believe the Penn State prof is trying to sue over it! Let it go like wildfire people!

  2. citizenwells

    Good morning.

  3. …………..previous post…………….

    JJ // April 26, 2010 at 3:47 pm

    Kim // April 26, 2010 at 2:24 pm

    Bad chemtrails over southern WI/northern IL this morning. The whole sky was a grid. People in our area have been complaining of sinus and lung congestion that does not go away. Don’t get blue skies anymore. Ends up being a haze.
    And they have the audacity to push “earth day” and to say that our SUV’s are causing problems!!
    ~~~~~~~~~~
    It’s called ‘stealing our sun’.

    **********************

    I won’t vote for any politician unless they admit how the original United States constitution has been usurped by the constitution of the corporate United States. They also won’t get my vote unless they say what they’re going to do to stop the massive chemtrail spraying program that is taking place.

    One more thing. If a politician should arise who does both of the things I mentioned, but if they should do a commercial and say that they approve of this message, or shake their fist with only the tip of their thumb showing, while saying phrases like, “we should”, “we must”, “we have to” etc, then they still will not get my vote.

  4. Good morning all! Hope everyone has a wonderful day!
    Regarding G-linoleum. there are still persistent allegations that he stole over $70,000,000.from his own bank. I guess If you are going to steal money……..why not steal it from your own stockholders? After all they are only the people who trusted you, and put their money in to your alleged …..BANK, and/or (crime money laundry).

  5. Perhaps someday Guilanni will decide that Chicago needs to be CLEANED up, and he will hire a couple hundred special prosecutors, and a couple thousand special investigators.and then bring EVERYBODY to Chicago. I would be willing to bet that it wouldn’t be long before the hit contracts begin to appear. All the big time bosses will be trying to eliminate all of the potential squealers. The bodies of small time crooks will start showing up by the dozens, while everyone, else hides evidence,shreds documents, and pretends to be devout Christians. But the CITY HALL CESSPOOL will survive to CHEAT,STEAL,ROB, RAPE and MURDER, another day, and one Chicago politician after another will be born out of the quagmire. BET ON IT!

  6. NEW AND IMPROVED FLU SCAM FOR 2010

  7. AZ Gov Defends new immigration law – Phoenix Mayor, Phil Gordon, to file lawsuit

  8. Government Releases New Numbers on Obamacare Showing Costs Will Skyrocket

  9. Upstate Warrior …………………………..

    I agree. It seems as though everytime I look up at the sky,all I see is CON-TRAILS from jets. Many months back I read an article published by a group that are trying to induce aviation to develop engines that do not leave a contrail. Of course this is only moisture,and monoxide. They POO-POO this as being only a trace when compared to the emissions from automobiles. Many people don’t realise that there are thousandsa of jets in the air at any one point in time somewhere over Earth,all only giving off a TRACE. This collectively becomes a LOT more than a trace ,when you consider that the actual figure of over 30,000 of these TRACE generators are simultaneously airborne. The old piston engine didn’t emit as badly as the jets do. I also believe that the high altitude operation of these jets also effects our weather. Moisture is heaver than air,and eventually returns to Earth in the form of rain. I wonder what WAXMAN rationalises as a carbon footprint for a 747 would be.

  10. Back in the 1970’s people were warning that vapor trails from jets would send us into an ice age because they were blocking the sunlight from hitting the Earth. There’s your answer to global warming, more vapor trails.

    Meanwhile here in Reno we are experiencing another winter storm, and it is supposed to snow.

  11. I congratulate the Arizona Governor for having the courage to poke a needle in the FEDS A$$. IT SURE GOT THEIR ATTENTION! Sadly everybody who has SOMETHING TO HIDE are WHINING,and snot nosed little children who have READ A BOOK now think they are the president of the US, and spout their NITWIT protests. Just like Viet Nam era DRUG HEADS all over again spouting their drug fogged minds,and saying nothing intelligent. The Governor acted because she HAD NO OTHER CHOICE! The murder of a well respected rancher has angered the citizens to a point that cannot be denied. In addition many ranchers have quietly hired Security entities to protect themselves and their property. The alleged Security entities are people who “HAVE GUN,AND WILL TRAVEL.” I say to them GO GET EM GUYS……..SIC EM. Arizona could easily turn into the sort of area that existed during the old range wars. This time it will be another range war,but designed to STOP MEXICAN DRUGGIES, instead of sheepherders.

  12. The Senate Hearings on Goldman “Suchs” is now on c-span3 live.

  13. This former Dem is proud to be a Teabagger too. It’s my job as a citizen.
    http://radiopatriot.wordpress.com/2010/04/27/arizona-takes-on-larazabacks/
    “I think the Tea Partiers are much more immediately dangerous to Democrats, whose policies under Obama have so vastly expanded the size and the scope of national government and done so with massive bills that no on has even read,” he said. “The Democrats are playing a very dangerous and destructive game in trying to dismiss and demonize the Tea Partiers as racist. They are resorting to a tactic that has worked for them in the past but is unlikely to work in this instance. Many mainstream Americans share Tea Party sentiments, even if they don’t join the movement, and by disparaging the latter, Democrats disparage the former. This only has the effect of heightening the mainstream’s distrust of the political class.” — Wilfred McClay, historian and political scholar who serves as the William E. Simon Distinguished Visiting Professor at Pepperdine University’s School of Public Policy. Human Events

  14. OT,

    Peter Francisco,

    Stand by for an e-mail…help is available.

  15. In Maryland, illegal aliens get documents printed by the State of Maryland which advise them on how to avoid federal authorities. These documents are printed at taxpayer expense (at least in part) and distributed by Casa de Maryland. Maryland’s sanctuary cities are well known in Central America… Our one party system encourages and facilitates illegal actions in direct violation of federal law.
    … and I get to pay for it…
    KY sounds good … but I was waiting for Texas to secede…

  16. The alleged mayor of Phoenix is a CHILDISH LITTLE WIMP who by virtue of his own rhetoric hasn’t tenth of the Governor’s courage. In short he is a PU–Y. Arizona is faced with a really serious and potentially extremely dangerous situation,yet all he can do is run his stupid mouth. The next step for Arizona will probably be to activate the National Guard,and place them all along the border with Mexico,with orders to “TAKE NO PRISONERS”. Unfortunately the problem is already past the point of negotiation. Only tough wartime like action will resolve the situation,and even this will not end the problem overnight.
    The little SNOT NOSES had better GET A GRIP because if they try to interfere with the National Guard they could find themselves receiving incoming mail. Not exactly the legacy that a person attending college should be inviting.
    Arizona should try to coordinate the use of the various sherriffs depts, (BENSON, Douglas, Bisby, Nogales etc ino forward OPs so to speak. Arizona will need a very large National Guard, and Police egencies as well. In addition they will NEED a lot more space for incarcerating everybody who breaks the law. I personally stand behind the Governor’s action. After all the FED wouldn’t act. So she did. Go get em, Governor! Lock all of their a$$es up! Including the little “snot noses “who get in the way. The state is within it’s right to act,in spite of existing Federal protocol.

  17. **Blago says he has subpoenaed the fraud to help prove his innocence; noone involved did anything wrong……not him..not the fraud…….

    If you repeat the lie often enough, it becomes the truth.
    “1984”

  18. **Blago says he has subpoenaed the fraud to help prove his innocence; noone involved did anything wrong……not him..not the fraud…….

    And in Chicago politics, he really believes this.

  19. TJ @ 10:51 am
    Sounds like the State of Maryland has some major corruption problems.

  20. I really hope that the slimey,gutless little Arizona politicians try to SUE the Governor,or take it all to the SCOTUS,because in the end the courts or lawsuits will not STOP THE MEXICAN DRUG HEADS. Sadly only bullets and other assorted ordnance,in overwhelming volume will stop the Mexican cartels in their tracks. We have to do exactly what they are doing ,only a lot better……….WAR!.

  21. LM // April 27, 2010 at 9:49 am

    Whoa, LM…thanks for posting this bit of garbage!

    No vaccine has ever been proven to do what they intended it to do. None.

    Best bet? Have absolutely *nothing* injected into you. Many citizens wised up and refused the H1N1 shot; over half the population didn’t buy into the hype. I do worry about those who did.

    No shots! Noooooo!

  22. Good morning Sue!

    I need help too. Here’s my email address.

    lurkerneedsmoney@cashonly.org

  23. Lurker // April 27, 2010 at 11:02 am

    Hey, Lurker,

    And what makes you think that **I** have any?

    Thinking of selling the hamster for cash. He should fetch a hefty 3 bucks :).

  24. oldsalt78 // April 27, 2010 at 9:39 am

    Perhaps someday Guilanni will decide that Chicago needs to be CLEANED up,

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Pike County residents need to apply!!!

  25. http://global-ejournal.org/2008/11/06/the-global-failure-of-neoliberalism-privatize-profits-socialize-losses/
    “Privatize Profits; Socialize Losses”
    I think this goes to the heart of the problem that has gotten the American people so upset as they should be. It goes to the heart of the basic unfairness of these for lack of a better word-scams.

  26. CW, regarding Blackwell,
    I seem to remember seeing somebody posting by the name of Robert (?), posting something about Blackwell “Cooking the Books” quite a while back. I also remember Blackwell had either contacted you, or posted on you blog something as well.

    It went something like this: Blackwell had either sent you an e-mail that you re-posted, or he had posted directly on the blog declaring no knowledge and innocence. Then the Robert(?) person posted a cryptic note accusing Blackwell of outright cooking the books that he (Robert?) was somehow involved with auditing.

  27. Arizona could easily turn into the sort of area that existed during the old range wars. This time it will be another range war,but designed to STOP MEXICAN DRUGGIES, instead of sheepherders.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~
    And when the dust settles, a true American state is left with more resources for its rightful citizens.

  28. An investigative report detailing the Obama eligibility controversy

    http://homelandsecurityus.com/archives/3735

  29. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    SueK // April 27, 2010 at 11:02 am

    What about smallpox and polio. Were not those awful diseases ‘conquered’?

    PS – I don’t believe Flu vaccines work and I won’t take them. In fact I think they are under-regulated, under-tested, and dangerous. But I have yet to accept the extreme position that ALL vaccines are bad.

  30. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    In honor of the Congressional Goldman Sachs hearings today:

    Semi-rhetorical question – When two parties together screw something up, where does the major malefactor of the two get off twisting the nose of the lesser offender? It makes no sense.

  31. With all of our attention drawn once more to the corruption in our land, it would be a good time to listen again, if you haven’t already, to this inspiring video. We need it, fellow patriots:

    What a blessing, just hearing and reading this!!!
    This is absolutely amazing…..

    Turn up your speakers

    http://www.greatdanepro.com/Pray%20For%20America/index.htm

    I find myself being reminded of the truths herein quite often.

  32. http://www.breitbart.tv/watch-live-goldman-ceo-fabulous-fab-grilled/
    This is not fun for anyone-but I think it is a very necessary process so we can figure out what went wrong so nothing like this can ever happen again. At this point they are finger pointing and so many didn’t know anything, due diligence never done at any point.

  33. Margie // April 26, 2010 at 9:15 pm

    I am tired of all the bullshit. I was taught in school, both parents must be U.S citizens giving birth in America, or if at a time of war, giving birth in other area’s deemed American soil, if I wanted to become President. Why are they allowing this to continue? I am really getting mad !!!!

    *******************************************

    You’re not alone, Margie. All across America folks are hearing your common sense message loud and clear, and asking themselves why there seems to be a different set of rules for OSmug. There’s something very wrong with the turn of events leading up to the presidential election of 2008, where the sacred laws of the land we love may have been ambushed by an invisible force hellbent on their own sinister agenda. Please take some comfort though, and know as surely as the Sun rises and sets each day without fail, there will be a day of reckoning for those who think they know what’s best for the American people. It’s time to reset the table…God Bless America!

  34. ObamaCorruptionFraudTreason is Deep Rooted and resistant to Strong Weedkiller, Liberty is the Only Remedy.

  35. Thursday’s defense filing disclosed something the White House never has. A labor official, evidently from the Service Employees International Union, has told the FBI that on Nov. 3, 2008, the day before Obama was elected president, the candidate was on the phone, offering his opinion on the suitability of his friend Valerie Jarrett to fill his Senate seat. That contact isn’t illegal or even inappropriate. It does, though, look tacky — and it also exposes OBAMA CALLING THE CONTROVERSIAL SEIU when he wanted to get a message relayed to Blagojevich.

    But the disclosure of that Obama outreach serves the purposes of Blagojevich’s lawyers: See? EVEN THE PRESIDENT-TO-BE WAS WORKING AN ANGLE to influence the choice of a new senator — and Obama can testify that the governor didn’t ask anything in return. Similarly, showing jurors a deposition in which Obama contradicts what Rezko has told the FBI on other potentially embarrassing topics could discredit any Rezko testimony that he and Blagojevich were scheming to run the state as a criminal racket. Again, advantage Blagojevich.

    http://therealbarackobama.wordpress.com/

    Yep, no crimes here, nothing to see, just Chicago politics, move along now.

  36. Margie // April 26, 2010 at 9:15 pm

    I am tired of all the bullshit. I was taught in school, both parents must be U.S citizens giving birth in America, or if at a time of war, giving birth in other area’s deemed American soil, if I wanted to become President. Why are they allowing this to continue? I am really getting mad !!!!

    You’re not alone, Margie. All across America folks are hearing your common sense message loud and clear, and asking themselves why there seems to be a different set of rules for OSmug. There’s something very wrong with the turn of events leading up to the presidential election of 2008, where the sacred laws of the land we love may have been ambushed by an invisible force hellbent on their own sinister agenda. Please take some comfort though, and know as surely as the Sun rises and sets each day without fail, there will be a day of reckoning for those who think they know what’s best for the American people. It’s time to reset the table…God Bless America!

  37. This is great! And will be repeated many times over, I am sure. I will be following this to see if anything developes…

  38. Is ” Mylife” the same as Myspace and Facebook? If I were to go on a certain persons Mylife page will they know I was there?

  39. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO) // April 27, 2010 at 11:56 am

    Hi Carlyle,

    Back in the day when vaccines were vaccines they may have done some good however, I just look at my former neighbor who did take the polio vaccine in the late 1950s and ended up with it anyway (as many did), becoming a paraplegic until her death at age 46.

    Sorry, but there is still no evidence that this current slug (especially) of vaccines do any good. Many diseases hit a peak and cycle out on their own. Thus far, I haven’t seen the science that tells me that they’re effective, particularly these days when they put cleaners like Tween, preservatives like Thimerosal, and dead animal cancer cells in your shot. You’ve also gotta look at the side effects of any vaccine; you usually won’t find the true stats in any of the literature. I won’t bore you with what I witnessed when I worked in Biotech.

    Pure scientific research 50 years ago is one thing; monkeying around with every substance known to man to stuff into vaccines these days is something else entirely.

    I’m open to reading any research that proves that they’re effective. If ya got it, my friend, send it! 🙂

  40. Check out the recent interview with Dr. David Manning re. planned grand jury trial in NY (at
    The Post&Email):

    http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/04/27/dr-manning-we-have-proof-of-obamas-ineligibility/

  41. Philo-Publius

    Obama administration now openly assisting illegal alien workers

    “Department of Labor Secretary Hilda Solis, announced the “We Can Help” campaign designed to protect day laborers, even if they are illegal aliens. Solis said her agency recently added 250 field investigators to enforce labor laws, but will apparently not report those here illegally to Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

    The same day that Solis announced the Obama administration’s effort, mostly on behalf of illegal aliens, Labor Department investigator Paul Ramirez visited a day laborer center in Concord, CA. In Spanish, he told the crowd: “We’re the feds, but the good ones. We’re here to help workers.””

    http://www.examiner.com/x-35821-Immigration-Reform-Examiner~y2010m4d4-Obama-administration-now-openly-assisting-illegal-alien-workers

  42. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO) // April 27, 2010 at 11:56 am

    Carlyle, my reply is in moderation, for some reason.

    I didn’t use a bad word…I promise!

  43. Hi Greg – that video of the vet saving the American flag is powerful! I just did a search on YouTube to make sure I had the correct link to forward it to my email list, and was surprised to see that it is 2 yrs. old and was done in Reno. (it could have easily been yesterday in Tucson)

    That doesn’t change the importance of the act – we just all need to make sure we don’t give progressives an opening to distort or deflect from the message.

  44. bob strauss,
    Had any wind damage yet?

  45. Cabby – AZ // April 27, 2010 at 1:25 pm

    Thanks for sharing the link within your post. It is appreciated. What a great interview too. Wish Pastor Manning all the best…may the good Lord bless him and his family.

    —–Original Message—–
    Subject: CIA TRIAL VIP PRESS INVITATION

    CIA COLUMBIA OBAMA TRIAL
    VIP PRESS INVITATION

    21 April 2010

    Dear Member of the Media:

    Grace and peace be multiplied unto you, your family, and the work of your hands.

    Thank you for allowing me to express my political and religious point of view on your broadcast last year.

    I have called for what we believe will be “The Greatest Trial In American History,” indeed a Magna Carta moment. I have slam dunk documented evidence that Mr. Obama did not attend Columbia University under any of the state and federal guidelines, yet was awarded a degree even though he was unqualified.

    I want to personally invite you to witness and report on the trial and the biblical example Seven Day March around Columbia University each morning before the trial begins.

    Please appropriately respond at press@atlah.org. Your email address is critical to your receiving a press badge and getting through security for this historical event.

    The trial dates are 14-19 May 2010. The court room address will be the ATLAH World Missionary Church, 38 West 123rd Street, ATLAH, New York City.

    The march will be announced on our website along with a schedule and list of events to keep you up to date on the entire process.

    Register early: Seating is limited. You must have a press badge to enter the courtroom. There will be some limitations on live streaming and video recording.

    His Royal Service,
    A Natural Born Citizen

    The Honorable James David Manning

  46. Thanx Katie, and a hint, if you click on the little Up ^ arrow in the lower right corner you then click on the little icon that pops up. In there is the youtube url and embedded code for sharing so you can go right to the direct link to see when it was posted and see how many hits it has.

  47. Sheer Stupidity

    The Prez says the republic of Arizona can’t enforce ONE FEDERAL LAW, even though it is ok to enforce all other Federal Laws.
    Than the Mayor tells the Governor that it can’t force the City to follow state law which is a federal law.

    This is what happens when there is lawlessness and laws go arbitrarily unenforced instead of getting them repealed.

    PLEASE STOP THE INSANTASY!!!

  48. truthbetold11

    I appluad Dr Mannings great great effort. But it shouldn’t be labled the greatest trial in American history. It should be the most sobered trial in amercian history, because we are the ones alsleep at the wheel this past century and drunk with selfishness

  49. The cutdown of the Mexican flag is only a sample of what is coming.n One thing is clear. The drug dealers from Mexico are coming to the US prepared to engage in war. I have read that they are now in possession of RPGs, hand grenades,and other miscellaneous ordnance to use against us. I only hope that the Governor of Arizona does not allow these intruders to get away. They need to be stopped from bringing drugs across the border. If it requires that each of them be shot to death then so be it. If they are armed they have to know that they could be shot dead. This is alresdy past the point of no return. I hope that the Arizona Governor realises this and calls in the National guard. This could easily spread to all other states as well. Not necessarily because of border crossings but because of illegal flying of the Mexican flag over US Territory. Watch out everybody this could be the incident that will precipitate all out gunfire from coast to coast. When the smoke clears there could be thousands of dead Mexicans. Sadly many of them will possibly be LEGAL immigrants. In war if you look like the enemy there is a strong likelihood that you will be shot. People of the US are getting to a point where it will only take one or two little incidents and the entire lid could blow off. The Fed refuses to do anything so the people will be completely justified to use whatever means they possess to defend themselves and their family,including firearms. Whether it is an American or a Mexican,if he carries a lethal weapon, and has made it clear that it is his/her intention to use it against you, there is adequate justification from that point for anyone to use lethal force as a defense. This doesn’t need to occur,it need only be PERCEIVED.

  50. Follow up from the flag cutter posted above.

  51. He, Jim Brossard, appeared at a Reno Tea Party on 9/12/09…

  52. Does everyone remember how the Columbian drug czar was finally stopped? It didn’t happen as a result of a snot nosed college child telling the military how to fight. He was brought down my gunfire from our DEA agents who were assisting Columbian police. This is the only force on Earth that drug heads understand. What was passed by the Arizona legislature is a tool in stopping the grug dealers. If an illegal alien is found to possess any form of drugs it should result in his/her immediate incarceration. I am praying for the people of Arizona. They will need all the prayers that we can send them.

  53. typo grug =drug

  54. Linda from NY

    Tuesday, April 27, 2010

    The Mexican Pound of Flesh

    http://lamecherry.blogspot.com/2010/04/mexican-pound-of-flesh.html

    “When this blog champions the Mexican peon, it does so out of a Christian American revulsion out of numerous groups preying upon a 3rd world class. See it is not that I have a prejudice for Mexicans, as I see them for what they are in criminal survival opportunists who are too cowardly to rise up in Mexico and take their nation back. They instead are opportunists coming to America and garner all the benefits from a race who did rise up.

    That of course might sound harsh to liberals who feed off Mexicans in hiring them to mow their lawns cheaply, hire them to babysit their children cheaply, hire them to gut their hogs and chickens cheaply for their grocery, hire them to cheaply build their vacation homes, and then in investments to Wall Street corporations gain retirement portfolios off of the traffick of humans in the slave trade.”

  55. Citizen Don in California

    Folks, I’ve been thing…. again.

    Where does the feds get the authority to tell a state what they can do within their own state?

    Isn’t each state a Republic unto it’s self? As long as a states laws do not interfer with another state or violate a persons Constitutional Rights, how can the Feds tell that state their law is wrong?

    As for Arizona, the Governor has the duty and right to protect the state and citizens, by whatever means necessary. If that means using the ArizonaNational Guard, then so be it. Notice, the word Arizona is before National.

  56. I can absolutely see why Arizona would not want the Mexican Drug war to come to their state. It is very violent and bloody and the Mexican Army has NOT won it yet. Someone needs to look out for the citizens of Arizona-why does Obama think of them as sitting ducks? when it part of his responsibilities in the Constitution to protect them.
    http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/01/12/mexico-opens-new-year-drug-murders-day/
    More than 6,500 drug-related killings made 2009 the bloodiest year since President Felipe Calderon declared war on the cartels in late 2006 and deployed 45,000 soldiers to fight organized crime, according to death tallies by San Diego’s Trans-Border Institute.
    Mexico Opens New Year With 69 Drug Murders in One Day
    http://www.ourdocuments.gov/doc.php?flash=true&doc=9&page=transcript
    Article 1 Section 8
    To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;
    We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
    Article 4 Section. 4.
    The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened), against domestic Violence.

  57. Here go the charges of racism, again, based on the new AZ law (calling for enforcement of existing laws on immigration).

    Eugene Robinson again bases an argument about undocumented immigration in Arizona, on straw dogs and emotionalism and calls it journalism.

    Activists for Latino and immigrant rights — and supporters of sane governance — held weekend rallies denouncing the new law and vowing to do everything they can to overturn it. But where was the Tea Party crowd? Isn’t the whole premise of the Tea Party movement that overreaching government poses a grave threat to individual freedom? It seems to me that a law allowing individuals to be detained and interrogated on a whim — and requiring legal residents to carry identification documents, as in a police state — would send the Tea Partyers into apoplexy. Or is there some kind of exception if the people whose freedoms are being taken away happen to have brown skin and might speak Spanish? http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/04/26/AR2010042602595.html?nav=emailpage

    Meanwhile, in Texas, Latino groups, represented by LULAC, have filed suit against the Texas Democratic Party for violating provisions of the Voting Rights Act of 1965 in the disparate allocation of delegates to senatorial districts, heavily favoring blacks over Latinos? http://www.austinchronicle.com/gyrobase/Blogs/News/?oid=oid:622682 (Sorry; I could not tell from this article or any others I have read in relation to the D’s unlawful conduct whether these particular Latino Plaintiffs were white, brown, or beige.)

    Now, who’s racist?

  58. They Choose to ignore the obvious :

    DALA OR DIASPORA: OBAMA AND THE LUO COMMUNITY OF KENYA

    “A Luo may be President of the United States before a Luo becomes President of
    Kenya.” 1
    IN

    http://www.wcfia.harvard.edu/sites/default/files/africaseminar_kluongo2.pdf

  59. Linda from NY

    Real-Time Illegal Alien Statistics

    April 27, 2010

    http://republicbroadcasting.org/?p=8237

    “ImmigrationCounters.com provides the key numbers resulting from illegal immigration in the United States. Using the latest government and private sources, research and analysis trending data is factored at their individual rates of increase. Topic related links are provided for you to become more informed by exposing the myths of illegal immigration. For information about the research behind the individual counters, click here Data Sources. ImmigrationCounters.com supports legal immigration and respect for all humanity, yet highlights the significant impact of illegal immigration.”

    http://immigrationcounters.com/

    Hmmm…

  60. Linda from NY

    The ash cloud that never was

    (Daily Mail)

    April 26, 2010

    http://republicbroadcasting.org/?p=8206

    “The Mail on Sunday can today reveal the full extent of the shambles behind the great airspace shutdown that cost the airlines £1.3 billion and left 150,000 Britons stranded – all for a supposed volcanic ash cloud that for most of the five-day flights ban was so thin it was invisible.

    As the satellite images of the so-called ‘aerosol index’ published for the first time, right, demonstrate, the sky above Britain was totally clear of ash from Iceland’s Eyjafjallajoekull volcano.

    All for nothing: Britons like Huw Thomas, stranded in New York, would have been safe to fly home

    Inquiries by this newspaper have disclosed that:

    * Attempts to measure the ash’s density were hampered because the main aircraft used by the Meteorological Office for this purpose had been grounded as it was due to be repainted.

    * Computers at the Met Office, which earlier forecast a ‘barbecue summer’ last year and a mild winter for this year, produced a stream of maps predicting the ash would cover a vast area, eventually stretching from Russia to Newfoundland. But across almost all of it, there was virtually no ash at all, and none visible to satellites.

    * Though there was some ash over Britain at times during the ban, the maximum density measured by scientists was only about one twentieth of the limit that scientists, the Government, and aircraft and engine manufacturers have now decided is safe.

    ‘We never understood why a blanket ban had been imposed – something that would not have happened in other parts of the world,’ a senior airline executive said yesterday.”

  61. Linda from NY

    Hutaree Militia Members to Ask to be Released, Say They Are Not a Threat

    (CBS News)

    April 27, 2010

    http://republicbroadcasting.org/?p=8235

    “The nine members of the Michigan-based militia group Hutaree, including the group’s leader, David Brian Stone, will be calling an unlikely witness at a Tuesday hearing to determine if they should be released – the agent who infiltrated their group.

    U.S. District Judge Victoria Roberts ruled that attorneys for the eight men and one woman can summon a federal agent as a witness. They say the agent has information that would weaken the government’s claim that the nine are too dangerous to be released from jail while the case moves through court.

    The undercover agent, whose name has not been made public, infiltrated Hutaree and secretly recorded the leader, David Stone, declaring “it’s time to strike and take our nation back so that we may be free again from tyranny.”

    U.S. Attorney Barbara McQuade said that Stone, known within the group as “Captain Hutaree,” allegedly conspired with at least eight other members to kill police officers and then attack their funeral with homemade bombs in the hopes of killing more law enforcement personnel. The attacks were allegedly planned to take place some time in April.

    Defense lawyers, however, say their clients are being punished for being outspoken.

    The nine members have been charged with seditious conspiracy, possessing a firearm during a crime of violence, teaching the use of explosives, and attempting to use a weapon of mass destruction – homemade bombs.”

  62. Linda from NY

    Vandals Paint “Burn This Racist City” On Arizona Sidewalk

    April 27, 2010 by annem040359

    http://annem040359.wordpress.com/2010/04/27/vandals-paint-burn-this-racist-city-on-arizona-sidewalk/

  63. Citizen Don in California

    Linda from NY // April 27, 2010 at 4:30 pm

    Hutaree Militia Members to Ask to be Released, Say They Are Not a Threat
    /////////////
    The judge also said that the Hutaree members have to prove they are not a threat.

    I thought the prosecutor had to prove they were.

    Just my opinion

  64. Linda from NY

    April 27, 2010

    The Arizona Uproar

    By Leo W. Banks

    http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/04/the_arizona_uproar.html

    “Listening to the national uproar, you’d be forgiven for thinking that Arizona has marched into the civil rights apocalypse with its new state law cracking down on illegal immigrants.

    Last Friday, Arizona Governor Jan Brewer signed SB1070, making it a crime to be in the state illegally and requiring cops, where “reasonable suspicion” exists, to determine a person’s legal status.

    Rev. Al Sharpton is promising to come to Arizona to march, the New York Times says that the state has gone “off the deep end,” and the Nazi references are flying. Los Angeles Cardinal Roger Mahony likened SB1070 to “German Nazi and Russian Communist techniques.”

    Riding the noise for political advantage, President Obama is summoning his Justice Department to look into the matter, saying that the law would “undermine basic notions of fairness that we cherish as Americans.”

  65. truthbetold11

    I thought illegal means illegal if they spoke english they would know what it means. Thats why they can’t understand the truth about who they are. They think they are entitled because the libs tell them they are. its all a big lie and hyped up fake crisis

  66. Linda from NY // April 27, 2010 at 4:35 pm

    Sorry, Linda(r), I’d lock and load…

    Since when do THEY have any rights? They have illegally invaded America, raped our medical and social services, and are talking about their RIGHTS?

    Thank the Good Lord I’m not in law enforcement…

  67. Linda from NY

    Scandal: Obama, Gore, Goldman, Joyce Foundation CCX partners to fleece USA

    examiner.com ^ | 4/27/10 | examiner.com

    Posted on Tuesday, April 27, 2010 3:56:00 PM by day21221

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2501646/posts

    “Glenn Beck breaks the biggest corruption story of the century yesterday and it doesn’t appear on a Front Page anywhere. Beck points the way to the 15 Trillion dollar scam that has some amazing players. (See full transcript here)

    First Glenn makes and astute point: If Goldman is really the bad guy, why are these people still on the job? The Goldman suit is a put up job! • William C. Dudley, president of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York; was a partner and managing director at Goldman • Gary Gensler, chairman of the Commodity Futures Trading Commission; spent 18 years at Goldman • Mark Patterson, chief of staff to Tim Geithner; former Goldman lobbyist • Philip Murphy; nominated for ambassador to Germany; former Goldman executive • Diana Farrell; deputy director of the National Economic Council; formerly with Goldman • Emil Michael; White House fellow; former investment banker with Goldman.

    Glenn tells us that a watchdog has steered him to the collusion between Barrack Obama, George Soros, Al Gore, Goldman Sachs, Franklin Raines (super crooked Fannie Mae head), CCX, and Generation Investment Management (GIM-London based co-founded by AL Gore).

    Know the crooks and their roles: George Soros, Joyce Foundation and connection to CCX.”

  68. Linda from NY @ 4:35 pm
    All I know is the little town that I grew up in outside O’Hare was half German, half Mexican with the usual sprinkling of everybody else. Polish, Greek, Italian, Irish, Australian (war bride) Norwegian (war bride) and much much more. I think for the most part, of our Mexican friends their parents came here 20-30-40-50’s most were 2nd 3 rd generation. One of my Mexican girlfriends was 5th generation-she had me beat. One of the guys at work called her a Chicano (I still don’t know what that means) so she got mad and said real loud I’M AN AMERICAN. Sometimes some of the guys we worked with would make a very stupid comment, which they learned to regret and apologize for immediately. We knew how to punish them.
    All of my friends of any Spanish extraction-Mexican, Cuban, Puerto Rican, Venezuelan, Dominican, Columbian are very law abiding citizens and very patriotic-proud to be Americans-many born here, the others became naturalized. They do not approve of this lawless bunch at all.

  69. Linda from NY

    Giannoulias donors appear in Blagojevich court documents

    The Washington Examiner ^ | 4-27-10 | David Freddoso

    Posted on Tuesday, April 27, 2010 10:23:55 AM by The Old Hoosier

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2501395/posts

    “Two political contributors to Alexi Giannoulias, the Democratic nominee for Senate in Illinois, appear in the government’s evidentiary documents against former Democratic Gov. Rod Blagojevich.

    One of the two men, Myron Cherry, recently contributed $2,300 to Giannoulias’s Senate campaign. Cherry, an attorney, gave to Giannoulias in August. He has also donated $68,000 to a bevy of Democratic candidates during this cycle, including Sens. Al Franken, Minn. and Harry Reid, Nev., and Senate candidates Paul Hodes, N.H., and Jack Conway, Ky.

    The other man, Michael Winter, was the office-mate of convicted fundraiser Tony Rezko. In 2006, Illinois’ Capitol Fax blog reported that Winter gave at least $14,000 to Giannoulias’s race for state Treasurer, and that he had received a $2 million loan from the Giannoulias family’s Broadway Bank.

    Neither Cherry nor Winter has been charged with any crime.

    The government’s evidentiary proffer against Blagojevich says that Winter and Cherry were alleged front-men for a conspiracy by a gang of Blagojevich cronies that included Democratic fundraisers Rezko and Chris Kelly, and Republican fundraiser Stuart Levine. Kelly recently committed suicide, and the other two were convicted on corruption charges.”

    (Excerpt) Read more at washingtonexaminer.com …

  70. Mario has a neat article on Ben Franklin.

    http://puzo1.blogspot.com/

  71. Linda from NY

    Michelle // April 27, 2010 at 4:52 pm

    Hi, Chelley: Found this on “Google” Search. In NYC, they are known as “Chicanos,” too; just refers to people of Mexican descent, that’s all.

    “The terms Chicano and Chicana (also spelled Xicana) were originally used by Americans in reference to U.S. citizens of Mexican descent. The term began to be widely used during the Chicano Movement, mainly amongst Mexican Americans, especially in the movement’s peak in the late 1960s and early 1970s. The self-identification Chicano is still in popular usage today by Mexican-American youth. However, the term Chicano was never in use in the Southernmost sections of Texas and was not historically mentioned by members of the Mexican-American community. A portion of the local Hispanic population in northern New Mexico also identify as Chicanos, however they seldom acknowledge any Mexican ancestry, they are usually insistent their lineage can be traced back to the Spanish Conquistadors . The term seems to have resulted from a population shift of Mexican-Americans, that occurred in the 50’s, to the Chicago area. Mexican-Americans that already lived in the Chicago area would refer to themselves as “Chicago-Mexicanos” and eventually shortened to “Chicano,” which makes plausible sense. The Spanish dictionary “Grand Diccionario Cuyas” from 1936 defines “chicana” as Galician slang for “a cheat or subterfuge”.[1]

    A friend of mine frequently reminded me: “There is good and bad in every ethnic background.”

    I can see why your friends cannot tolerate those who are breaking the law and making others of a similar background look bad.

    So sad for those who are hurting in AZ because the Governor had to sign a state law to enforce a federal statute. If you did anything “illegal,” you would be arrested. Why, after all these years, are they still here sponging off of Americans who are here legally?

    Peace, Chelley…Linda

  72. Linda from NY

    ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION: Costs, Crimes, & Related Problems (U.S.) [Arizona Gets It!!]

    DiscoverTheNetworks.org ^

    Posted on Tuesday, April 27, 2010 1:26:37 PM by SloopJohnB

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2501532/posts

    “Illegal immigration imposes enormous costs — monetary as well as crime-related — on American society.

    (Excerpt) Read more at discoverthenetworks.org …”

  73. oldsalt78 – (2:42 & 3:01PM)

    ” If an illegal alien is found to possess any form of drugs it should result in his/her immediate incarceration. I am praying for the people of Arizona. They will need all the prayers that we can send them.”
    ************************************
    Amen, to that!

    Down deep in my heart I feel that the rebels are not even going to give our Governor a fair chance at demonstrating the intended application of this law. There are three months to go before it becomes effective, and in the meantime they are going to see that all hell breaks loose.

    Would you all please “try this one on for size”?
    What if BO doesn’t care how much havoc is wrought here in AZ, or anywhere in the country, for that matter? Would this give him the “crisis” that he is going to so desperately need?
    Excuse for martial law?? Think about it. I’m not a prophet nor the daughter of one, but we are always having to think one step ahead of his actions, lest we be taken off guard. It is a ghastly thought, but entirely possible.

  74. Linda from NY

    Minn. Group Wants Ariz.-Style Immigration Reform

    WCCO.com ^ | 4/26/10 | Sonya Goins

    Posted on Tuesday, April 27, 2010 12:53:40 PM by ButThreeLeftsDo

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2501517/posts

    “The crackdown on illegal immigration in Arizona heated up Monday. Some vandals smeared refried beans in the shape of swastikas on the state Capitol’s windows. Last weekend there were dozens of protests.

    The Arizona law would require police officers to check the immigration status of anyone they suspect may be an undocumented immigrant. If they can’t prove citizenship, they could be arrested. The law takes effect in three months.

    There is at least one group in Minnesota pushing for the same kind of law. Minnesotans Seeking Immigration Reform said Minnesota lawmakers should move forward under state rights with a similar initiative.

    Dan McGrath is the Executive Director of a group called Minnesota Majority.

    “I’m in favor of immigration, immigration built this nation, but it has to be orderly and measured to some extent. We don’t want drug dealers, gangsters, human traffickers coming across the border with impunity,” said McGrath.

    His group says illegal immigrants cost Minnesota taxpayers $180 million to 340 million per year. But that number varies depending on who you ask.

    (Excerpt) Read more at wcco.com …”

  75. Linda from NY

    THE GREATEST SCANDAL IN MODERN HISTORY (Treason)

    Investigating Obama ^ | 4/27/2010 | Arlen Williams

    Posted on Tuesday, April 27, 2010 4:31:39 PM by unspun

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2501679/posts

    “Both of these videos are from yesterday evening. The Financial Times article is from this Sunday. They are elements of the most extensive scandal perhaps, since original sin.

    While the Beck video is even much more significant than this, the point is that Barack Obama nixed real reform in the Obamafinance bill. The transparency would have gotten in the way of the astounding plan of which he is a focal point. This entire interview is important, but be sure to listen, after the two minute mark, as Greta Van Susteren interviews Senator Jim DeMint.

    Next, put that together with this story, out of Financial Times. This is where Barack Obama and his network are driving us. It is global corporatism, i.e., Marxofascism:…”

  76. Linda from NY@ 5:03 pm
    Thank you for the definition re: chicano, chicana-these guys/gals were our friends and co-workers and neighbors too.
    The situation in Mexico-war with drug lords-one of our girlfriends ex-boy friend runs a company in the heart of the war zone. It is beyond bad. Then are beheading people and hanging people from the expressways to scare people into submission. Our girl friend stayed friends with him, she begs him to get out of there-next flight out she wishes.
    Does anyone care about the legal citizens of AZ who need protection? Our government can’t be that dumb that they don’t know is some of this illegal activity is drug related-maybe the drug guys are paying off the demonstrators (pardon me but my Chicago is showing).
    Linda-this is way beyond the pall, now you will see some citizens and government officials really digging, this will heat up very fast.
    Scandal: Obama, Gore, Goldman, Joyce Foundation CCX partners to fleece USA
    WHAT A BUNCH OF PATRIOTS-just makes you sick. Well we all know any truth cannot be hidden forever.

  77. Cabby – AZ // April 27, 2010 at 1:25 pm

    There was mention of the internet carrying this event—–any news of this??

  78. citizenwells

    **** New Post ****

  79. Linda from NY

    SueK // April 27, 2010 at 4:46 pm

    Hey, Suey! If you were in law enforcement, we would not have room enough for the ones you have “rounded up!”

    Nor would we have enough people to “process” or “guard” them once you transfer them from “fingerprinting” to “jail.”

    Yikes…just the thought of it makes my head spin…after all, there are 22M of them!

    When can you be “shotgun ready?”

    Awaiting your reply…Linda

  80. Ignore the above post—I was testing something.

  81. OT a little, but did you see on the news the blurb about the captured Panty Bomber…his statements that would have been shown by his handlers once he was dead as a suicide bomber…taking the whole plane with him. Very telling that he is proclaiming that him and his religion of peace hates Jews and Christians. Apart from Obummer’s statement to the contrary (that “we are a Muslim nation”) we ARE a Christian nation. I feel our number one priority should be immigration reform against permitting our stated enemies entrance to this country, and the muzzies need to be on top of that list.

  82. Where does the feds get the authority to tell a state what they can do within their own state?

    I don’t think they can…..isn’t that what this is about??

    U.S. Constitution: Tenth Amendment – Reserved Powers to the States
    “The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

  83. Riding the noise for political advantage, President Obama is summoning his Justice Department to look into the matter, saying that the law would “undermine basic notions of fairness that we cherish as Americans.”

    Meanwhile these sit in jail while illegal Mexicans threaten Arizona citizens.

    Hutaree Militia Members to Ask to be Released, Say They Are Not a Threat

  84. It’s the Votes, Stupid!
    By John W. Lillpop
    April 11, 2010
    Nearly one year ago, Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid was polluting the immigration debate by calling a proposal to make English the official language “racist.”
    “This amendment is racist. I think it’s directed basically to people who speak Spanish,” the Democrat said during the already tense debate over immigration reform. Washington Times
    However, Reid has not always been so tolerant of Hispanic newcomers.
    In fact, in 1993 the unremarkable Harry Reid introduced the ‘Immigration Stabilization Act’ on the floor of the US Senate, and sounded downright intolerant of illegal aliens.
    In 1993, illegal aliens were overwhelmingly Hispanic, just as is the case in 2007.
    At the time of Reid’s impassioned rant in 1993, America was collapsing under the weight of 3.5 million illegal aliens.
    The crisis motivated Reid to declare: “Our borders have overflowed with illegal immigrants placing tremendous burdens on our criminal justice system, schools and social programs.”
    “Our federal wallet is stretched to the limit by illegal aliens getting welfare, food stamps, medical care and other benefits often without paying any taxes,” Reid continued.
    Now, fast forward to 2006.
    The illegal alien crisis that ruined Reid’s sleep in 1993 has mushroomed five fold, with 20 million illegal aliens now squatting in America.
    And the need to prevent illegal immigration is far greater now than it was in 1993, given the events of 9/11 and the ongoing war on terror.
    So why was Reid so gung-ho in 1993, but reduced to race-baiting obstruction in the far more dangerous environment of 2006?

    Wow..a complete 360 with his view!!!
    Isn’t internet great for retrieving old news reports??

  85. It’s the Votes, Stupid!
    By John W. Lillpop
    April 11, 2010
    Nearly one year ago, Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid was polluting the immigration debate by calling a proposal to make English the official language “racist.”
    “This amendment is racist. I think it’s directed basically to people who speak Spanish,” the Democrat said during the already tense debate over immigration reform. Washington Times
    However, Reid has not always been so tolerant of Hispanic newcomers.
    In fact, in 1993 the unremarkable Harry Reid introduced the ‘Immigration Stabilization Act’ on the floor of the US Senate, and sounded downright intolerant of illegal aliens.
    In 1993, illegal aliens were overwhelmingly Hispanic, just as is the case in 2007.
    At the time of Reid’s impassioned rant in 1993, America was collapsing under the weight of 3.5 million illegal aliens.
    The crisis motivated Reid to declare: “Our borders have overflowed with illegal immigrants placing tremendous burdens on our criminal justice system, schools and social programs.”
    “Our federal wallet is stretched to the limit by illegal aliens getting welfare, food stamps, medical care and other benefits often without paying any taxes,” Reid continued.
    Now, fast forward to 2006. The illegal alien crisis that ruined Reid’s sleep in 1993 has mushroomed five fold, with 20 million illegal aliens now squatting in America.
    And the need to prevent illegal immigration is far greater now than it was in 1993, given the events of 9/11 and the ongoing war on terror.
    So why was Reid so gung-ho in 1993, but reduced to race-baiting obstruction in the far more dangerous environment of 2006?

    It is the votes, stupid!

    Harry Reid and the Democrats realize they can no longer win elections by appealing to real American citizens.
    They now know that their only hope rests with pandering to 20 million illegal aliens, or “undocumented Democrats,” truth be told.
    The liberal motto, then, is as follows: To hell with the best interests of America, the more important objective is having Democrats in power.
    If calling a common sense amendment “racist” advances that objective, Reid and the loony left are more than happy to take those cheap political points to the bank – pronto!
    “http://www.federalobserver.com/archive.php?aid=11530”

    Wow..a complete 360 with his view!!!
    Isn’t internet great for retrieving old news reports??

  86. SueK // April 27, 2010 at 4:46 pm

    Since when do THEY have any rights? They have illegally invaded America, raped our medical and social services, and are talking about their RIGHTS?

    I’ll say it again…….go back to your country, raise that flag, and march for civil rights……
    Can’t can you??? Because you’d be arrested!!!

  87. Would you all please “try this one on for size”?
    What if BO doesn’t care how much havoc is wrought here in AZ, or anywhere in the country, for that matter?

    The evil credent’s entire agenda has been based on divide and conquer, not taking into account the ilegal alien democratic base that will be lost in 2012….total destruction of this country is his revenge for being considered black.
    Yes, he is part of the proposed global govt plan, not realizing when he’s finished playing his part, he will be of little significance too the elite and be discarded.
    He’s too busy preening to even see beyond his mose.

  88. too is to and mose is nose–I can spell, just not type!!

  89. His group says illegal immigrants cost Minnesota taxpayers $180 million to 340 million per year. But that number varies depending on who you ask.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    And now, we get to what I feel is the real cause for this call to enforcement of immigration laws……it’s not REALLY the murder of the rancher…….oh, no!!!

    It’s about money—see, it was fine as long as we had jobs and paid taxes for their education, food, housing, welfare, etc..
    But now, with unemployment hitting 10% and businesses closing or not hiring in the forseeable future, states know taxes will suffer.

  90. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    SueK // April 27, 2010 at 1:25 pm
    Citizen Carlyle (FUBO) // April 27, 2010 at 11:56 am
    ====================

    Thanks for the response. I have no proof of anything good or bad. It is just that over many decades I have been taught that Polio and Smallpox were two of the greatest successes of modern medicine. Not knowing any counter solid counter-arguments, I am inclined to believe that.

    However, I 100% agree that modern vaccines – commercialized – and forced on all of the children – seems very dangerous to me.

    Finally I have good reason to believe that flu vaccines are probably poison – and at least scams perpetrated by Big Pharma for fun and profit.

  91. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    JJ // April 27, 2010 at 6:30 pm

    SueK // April 27, 2010 at 4:46 pm

    Since when do THEY have any rights?

    ============================

    Unfortunately the concepts of “rights” and “privileges” have been intangled and mixed up in our modern political debate.

    Really broad things – like in the Bill of Rights are rights. They are not given by the constitution, they are simply enumerated in the constitution. They are considered to be God-given or “natural” rights.

    Everything else is “privilege”. The Federal and State governments can bestow privileges, they cannot bestow rights.

    Access to free food, free healthcare, other social services, etc. is a PRIVILEGE, not a RIGHT.

    Rights, tend to be universal. Of course everybody, including illegals and even more violent criminals, heck, even terrorists, have basic human rights. What they don’t have is privileges. Or at least they shouldn’t.

    This whole discussion and attempts to argue or debate or criticize would be significantly improved if we used the right words and concepts. Overall, this is pretty simple and easy. There should not really be any controversy. The controversy is largely caused by semantics.

    And – drum roll – the MSM is largely the evil perpetrator here. I would like to string them all up. Not only have they outlived their usefulness, and become irrelevant – they are now actually counterproductive.

  92. Access to free food, free healthcare, other social services, etc. is a PRIVILEGE, not a RIGHT.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Like illegals…….you do have rights, the right to return to your country and display that sense of entitlement to your president>>>>>>>

    did I get that right???

  93. I got a second census form today. The first one I mailed back pre-Apr 10th, just had our names and the bare requirements. This one came with a notice that I must respond, required by law, and if I don’t a census taker will appear at my door. (He’ll be lucky…I have automatic gates and he’d have to scale the gates to get in.) One thing I really despise about this census: question number one should be are you an American citizen, and question numbe two should state if answer is “no” to question one, disregard the census! Why should the gov’t make crucial decisions based upon responses from any non citizens who happen to fill in the census?

  94. King Discusses Arizona Immigration Law on Geraldo At Large

  95. How many of you guys are up for some street fighting on MAY 1? Tea Party is sending a convoy to join with the IMMIGRATION FIGHTERS in my town. Should be good…wondering if I should get a bullhorn permit.

    Is it possible for Leo D. to pull an Orly and resubmit his cases to SCOTUS? I’m getting restless.

  96. ONE more thought. Deportation should be in the context of serious criminals first then catch these “its just wrong” politicians in their own bleedin heart hypocrisy by proposing a CUTOFF OF ALL FREEBIES EXCEPT OXYGEN and then see if they still whine. Many will float back because the hardship is the same. You can make living here NOT WORTH IT quite easily without indulging in mass deportation ploy of these shysters!

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