Blagojevich trial, Obama subpoena, April 22, 2010
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From WGN Chicago Breaking News Center.
“Blago defense seeks permission to subpoena Obama”
“Lawyers for former Gov. Rod Blagojevich today asked a federal judge for permission to subpoena President Barack Obama to testify at Blagojevich’s upcoming trial.
Blagojevich is charged with using his office to enrich himself and close associates, including allegations he tried to sell the U.S. Senate seat that Obama vacated in 2008 with his election to the White House.
“President Obama has direct knowledge to allegations made in the indictment,” the defense said in its filing. “In addition, President Obama’s public statements contradict other witness statements.”
The defense said it still has not received notes from FBI interviews of Obama even though it first sought that material in December.
Blagojevich’s lawyers contend that some of Obama’s public remarks that no representatives of his had any stake in any alleged deals Blagojevich had over the senate seat has been contradicted by some witnesses in interviews with the FBI and federal prosecutors. That allegedly contradictory information has been blacked out of the new filing, though the defense asked in a footnote that the entire filing be unsealed.”
Citizen WElls 
Everybody remember? Soetoro stated on television that he had NO knowledge of the goings on at the Illinois statehouse. Keep this in mind should the usurper be subpeonad. Let’s see if he remembers what he said to about 20,000,000 people in a public forum.
I would love to see Obama answer some real questions. He better practice his stuttering, he will need it. I know what questions I would ask the usurper.
I’ll bet Obama will fight the subpoena, so he doesn’t have to testify. Maybe he will hide behind the Constitution he desires to shred.
OldSalt, do you really think the judge will allow his “dear leader” be put on the stand?? I don’t think o will ever be put on the stand, or his FBI interviews be released.
Do you think he’ll bring his teleprompters on the stand?
old salt 78, Obama is a natural born liar, his word is worthless. Nothing he says can be regarded as the truth. Especially what he said about who will be taxed. He’s pathetic.
http://www.oilforimmigration.org/
Is Lindsay Graham Compromised? – Thanks Charles
The Strategy of Manufactured Crisis Published
South Carolina Senator Lindsay Graham is perhaps the most irritating personification of the RINO label in the U.S. Senate. Despite the overwhelming evidence against manmade global warming and the irrefutable damage Cap and Trade legislation will do to our tottering economy, Graham has teamed with leftist Senator John Kerry to resurrect that legislation we all thought was going nowhere. Kerry himself recently noted that the recession has reduced greenhouse gas pollution by 6 percent. He wants to see another 14 percent reduction by 2020. Not one given to heavy intellectual lifting, we’ll assume Kerry overlooked the implications of that statement. But others have been explicit, suggesting a controlled recession is what’s needed to achieve that result.
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There is no doubt in my mind Blago knows enough to implicate Oliar up to his eyeballs in criminal behavior. I believe the only reason Blago hasn’t blabbed where the bodies are is to keep him self and his family alive.
Blago is behaving in a naive way. He still believes Obama will somehow reward him for his silence and vindicate him. Hah!
Sotoero’s criminal associates crop up everywhere from Tony Rezko, Blago, Goldman Sachs, George Soros, Van Jones and hundreds of Muslims among who are jahadists and terrorists. The watchdogs remain silent.
One day–in our lifetime–we will have the joy of seeing Barack insane and Michele Evita Obama behind bars. I swear in blood and carve it in granite–we will not rest–until we have rounded up all the Reids, Pelosi’s, judges, the electoral college and others who have knowingly and willingly been complicit in attempting to cover up the fraud’s usurpation!
The only chance we have of restoring our economy and keeping our homes is to remove this insane man and his regime now! Once he is removed–watch how fast are thriving economy is restored!
Whatwith this latest development, wondering aloud if Blagojevich’s camp is sending a message to o’s camp (handcuff your goon-squad and be prepared to offer a full pardon or go down in flames together?) Hope Blagojevich is holding a few trump cards of his own.
bob strauss // April 22, 2010 at 2:51 pm
Preview of Obama’s Testimony
LEGAL EAGLE HELP
I am sorry to be OT but something is driving me nuts. I have been reading all the articles on the Arizona bill to make Obama show his BC to prove NBC. All the articles from the MSM keep quoting the “Scopes” argument which proves he is legitimate. Can our Legal Eagles punch the holes in this for me. Here is the scopes site –
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/citizen.asp
Any help will be very appreciated.
ms. helga // April 22, 2010 at 3:03 pm
Citizenship under the 14th Amendment is not synonymous with Article II natural born citizenship…
Snopes not Scopes
ms. helga // April 22, 2010 at 3:03 pm
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I’m not a legal eagle in any strech of the imagination, but a couple of quick comments: 1) snopes has been shown to be very left leaning in their findings. They support o with all their might.
2) They just repeat what the MSM has been saying all along. A) 14th Amendment does not reference the Natural Born Citizen status of anyone, just a citizen. B) A U.S. Senator does not require the same qualifications as a President, therefore his being a Senator has no bearing on his eligibility to be President. C) His mother alone can not confer Natural Born Citizenship status to him, it has to be both parents and his father was British, so therefore could not confer American citizenship only British. o is not eligibal due to his father.
Just a few quick notes and only my pore country boy’s humble opinion.
Bob Strauss………………………………
That is exactly what I am aluding to……..his propensity to LIE ANYTIME OR ANYPLACE,ABOUT ANYTHING. I too think that he will NEVER give Blago the SWEAT OFF HIS BA### if he is dying of thirst. He will if anything provide a sworn deposition. End of BLAGO!
Benaiah // April 22, 2010 at 3:06 pm
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Is that all I need to know? Many thanks and I might add that’s a real “legal brief?
ms. helga // April 22, 2010 at 3:07 pm
Snopes not Scopes
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Scopes was the “monkey trial” on “Darwin’s” theory. Were you trying to say something???? 🙂
Donincalifornia…………………….
SNOPES is a known OBAMA support entity. HE swears to it and they call it the truth.
I found out about SNOPES way back in 08,long before the election while I was researching certain AUCHI information.
CW, if I said something out of line, I’ sorry.
Citizen Don in California // April 22, 2010 at 3:19 pm
Old Salt 78 (from other thread) –
You said it so well:
“Should the US ever venture to shoot a Israeli jet out of the air they in turn would most likely take one of ours out of the air. These people have always acted quickly an eye for an eye,and a tooth for a tooth. Bet on it! They would have complete justification.”
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DITTO ! DITTO !!
ms. helga // April 22, 2010 at 3:18 pm
Article II, Section 1, Clause 5: No person except a natural-born citizen …shall be eligible to the office of President.
The issue of whether or not Obama is “eligible to the office of President” depends upon whether or not he is an Article II “natural born citizen” of the United States.
The phrase “natural born citizen” “must be interpreted in the light of the common law, the principles and history of which were familiarly known to the framers of the Constitution”.
United States v. Wong Kim Ark., 18 S. Ct. 456, 169 U.S. 649 (U.S. 03/28/1898)
[1] SUPREME COURT OF THE UNITED STATES
[16] The Constitution nowhere defines the meaning of these words [“citizen of the United States,” and “natural-born citizen of the United States”], either by way of inclusion or of exclusion, except in so far as this is done by the affirmative declaration that “all persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States.” In this, as in other respects, it [The Constitution] must be interpreted in the light of the common law, the principles and history of which were familiarly known to the framers of the Constitution. Minor v. Happersett, 21 Wall. 162 [At common law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners. Minor v. Happersett, 88 U.S. 21 Wall. 162 (1874]; Ex parte Wilson, 114 U.S. 417, 422; Boyd v. United States, 116 U.S. 616, 624, 625; Smith v. Alabama, 124 U.S. 465. The language of the Constitution, as has been well said, could not be understood without reference to the common law. 1 Kent Com. 336; Bradley, J., in Moore v. United States, 91 U.S. 270, 274.
The “common law, the principles and history of which were familiarly known to the framers of the Constitution” was plainly expressed by the Supreme Court of the United States in the Separate Opinion of Justice Daniel in Scott v. Sandford, which quoted Vattel, and explicitly stated, “The natives or natural-born citizens are those born in the country of parents who are citizens…”
Scott v. Sandford, 60 U.S. 393 (U.S. 01/02/1856)
[1] UNITED STATES SUPREME COURT
[418] …The natives or natural-born citizens are those born in the country of parents who are citizens…
Furthermore, the Supreme Court of the United States in 1814 relied upon Vattel’s “Law of Nations” as the authority on citizenship issues, and stated in The Venus, “The natives, or indigenes [natural-born citizens], are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens.”
The Venus, 12 U.S. (8 Cranch) 253, 1814
“Vattel, …is more explicit and more satisfactory on it [CITIZENSHIP ISSUES] than any other whose work has fallen into my hands, [Vattel] says, ‘…The natives, or indigenes [natural-born citizens], are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens.’ ”
Vattel’s Law of Nations: § 212. Citizens and natives
…The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens.
Finally, the Supreme Court of the United States, in Minor v. Happersett, confirmed the definition of a “natural born citizen” as “children born in a country of parents who were its citizens”.
Minor v. Happersett, 88 U.S. 21 Wall. 162 (1874)
“ ‘No person except a natural-born citizen …shall be eligible to the office of President’… The Constitution does not in words say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners.”
Simply put, Article II “natural born citizens” are those citizens who are “born in the country, of parents who are citizens.”
Hence, Obama is not an Article II “natural born citizen” of the United States, even if he was born in Hawaii, as his father was a “foreigner”…
To reiterate, Obama’s father was not a citizen of the United States.
Therefore, Obama is not an Article II “natural born citizen” of the United States.
Thus, Obama is not “eligible to the office of President”.
Citizen Don in California // April 22, 2010 at 3:15 pm
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Thank you too, Don. I like to keep everything simple.
AL…………………………
All he needs is both bowers, and an ace. There will be only one hand played! Lead the opposition out of trump and lay down the GUARDED ACE then the left and right bowers. Voila! GAME TIME!. (one point) all that is necessary! Soetoro sinks.
Sort of like a Euchre game!
From previous page about canning:
http://www.backwoodshome.com/index.html
Bo is just as guilty as Blago in this pay for play mess. Bo is constantly doing pay for play using his alleged office to bribe congress people to vote for evil legislation. I hope the do subpoena the usurper. He probably will try to lie about his involvment, but if bo lies under oath, then that would be perjury. I guess it wouldn’t matter to him, because he has committed perjurybefore (oath of office, law license paper) and has gotten away with it.
This Blago trial is going to be quite an unfolding drama! Once again, though, we cannot expect any testimony from BO, IMHO. There will be something behind the scenes (or, maybe, not so behind) that will occur to prevent that. And, as someone here has so aptly said, anything he said would just be lies anyway.
You know, last evening while surfing the net, I ran across a site for Columbia Univ. and a lengthy recital of all of BO’s accomplishments. This was written about five years ago, if I recall, and the info? was used by his campaign to promote this usurper. What a read! It is especially obnoxious since we have witnessed almost sixteen months of his reign. You’d think you were reading about an entirely different person. It would be great for someone to make a rebuttal of each of the wonderful attributes so highly touted at that time. THAT would be quite a read!
oldsalt78 // April 22, 2010 at 3:34 pm
Soetoro sinks
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Grandslam OldSalt78!
Game, Set & Match…the American people win and OSmug’s smirk is erased…
Speedy…………………………………
Should he be caught lying under oath Gongress should immediately begin IMPEACHMENT OF HIM. Sadly when they tried to impeach SLICK WILLY it was Senators like SCHUMMER,DURBIN,LEAHY who twisted a lot of arms, and prevented his outright impeachment. They should be made to pay for their crooked behavior. Slick Willy violated his OATH of OFFICE. That is a violation of the worst sort. He should have been impeached.
ms helga: The inaccuracy of Snopes is apparent in that very article; thus, they cannot be relied upon for truth. We could set up our own debunking website and appoint ourselves arbiters of TRUTH and I guarantee you that WE’D be far more accurate and fair than Snopes. They cannot be relied upon for unbiased “facts”. Case in point:
“his parents split up when he was but a toddler”
False. There’s no evidence his parents ever lived together from the time of his birth. When he was born, his mother lived with her parents, as documented in city directories. His “father” lived in an apartment, elsewhere. It’s been PROVEN by university records that his mother was registered for and attended college in Washington state less than a month after his birth. Therefore, the lie that his parents lived together until they split when he was a toddler and his father went to Harvard is exactly that–a lie.
They also state that Obama was born in Hawaii, after Hawaii became a state. Neither fact is in evidence and they provide no source to back up either statement.
The portions that Citizen Don referenced are instructive. Does it read like an unbiased fact-checking article? No, it sounds like whining. The writer says it’s far-fetched to suggest that “U.S. law would essentially penalize someone who would otherwise qualify for natural-born citizenship status simply because his mother was too young.”
Well, indeed, if that’s the state of the law, and it was at the time of his birth, then that’s what would happen.
An unbiased fact-checker would report the facts and let the chips fall where they many, not whinge about whether or not it’s fair to “penalize” Obama. Besides which, if his father was not a U.S. citizen, then Obama would arguably still NOT “otherwise qualify” for NBC status. That’s up to the SCOTUS to decide, once the FACTS are in evidence about the circumstances of his birth and the identies and citizenship status of his parents.
They quote the 14th amendment which says anyone “born or naturalized” in the U.S. is a US citizen, yet everyone knows that Arnold Schwarzenegger is NOT eligible to be POTUS, even though he’s “naturalized.”
This factchecker apparently believes that anchor babies, born to TWO non-citizens, are eligible to be POTUS. You’d be hard pressed to find a Constitutional scholar to agree with that. Even the resolution passed by the Senate, stating that McCain is eligible to be POTUS, mentions citizen parents. Plural.
The writer also claims that “IN FACT” Obama put an image of his “1961 Hawaiian birth certificate” on the Internet, and we ALL know that’s false. The COLB is NOT a birth certificate, and it certainly doesn’t date to 1961.
Snopes cites several sources for the article, yet the one upon which they seem to have relied the most, Obama’s own fictional, ghostwritten autobiography, is notable for its absence.
speedy // April 22, 2010 at 3:39 pm
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WE USED TO BE A NATION OF LAWS,
NOT A LAWLESS NATION RUN BY ANYONE WHO CAN SEIZE POWER BY ANY MEANS.
Saphire Sunday…………………………..
Hawaii became a state in 1959.
may, not many. sorry.
http://www.oilforimmigration.org/
Notes from the Tea Party by Lloyd Marcus
oldsalt78: Yeah, I know. The thing is that we don’t know FOR SURE when he was born, so who can say whether it was a state when he was born or even if it matters because we don’t know where he was born. Do we?
Saphire Sunday……………………………..
I believe that most of the current info that we have seen or heard is based upon the LAWS AS THEY EXISTED IN 1961. I think that this is the primary reason why Stanley Anne could not confer citizenship upon her Lil bastard son. She was too young at the time of his BIRTH.
I believe that I read somewhere that she was about a year or so too young.
This will work better.
http://www.lloydmarcus.com/
Notes from the Tea Party by Lloyd Marcus
Don: Thanks for the link!
Read a piece on birther Bill by allapundit at Hot Air. Go read it…nauseating. It is implies that the AZ bill will only result in the bogus COLB being brought in to AZ sec. of State and them being forced to accept it as legal. Anyone know if this bill is airtight in getting at original intent of NBC & or getting the long form as the only way they will place him on the ballot. Anyone know how AZ will play this?That is provided it passes senate and Gov. Jan’s signature. Is their senate right-wing?
Sapphire Sunday………………………….
I find it interesting that you might think that he could have been born before Hawaii became a state. This is something that I am sure if enough digging and researching was done something in that regard could maybe be turned up. But we already know enough that if we had honest US Court Jucges he would have been gone long ago. As long as the ENTIRE DOJ remains corrupt there will be no JUSTICE.
oldsalt78 // April 22, 2010 at 4:11 pm
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I haven’t checked, but I understand that o’s facebook page or some page gives a different age than what has been reported. Someone else may have more infor than I do. Just a thought and I don’t have many of those. lol
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/06/27/grim_proving_ground_for_obamas_housing_policy/
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/06/27/grim_proving_ground_for_obamas_housing_policy/
This is what I think that they are so afraid will come out at trial-Obama/Jarrett were slum land lords in Chicago for 20 years he calls himself a community organizers. In 20 years massive bribes, graft, collusion with government officials Mayor Daley’s Cook County corruption
this would be a scandal that would take down a lot of Chicago’s finest read-crooks.
This doesn’t even touch on Michele Obama’s problems with patient dumping-they wouldn’t want that to come out either.
South Side of Chicago-still the cesspool of corruption.
The USURPER WAS NOT BORN – HE WAS ISSUED
ms. helga // April 22, 2010 at 4:16 pm
The USURPER WAS NOT BORN – HE WAS ISSUED
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Is that ISSUED or DEEMED??
PS – THE MSM IS GOING NUTS OVER THR ARIZONA BILL REGARDING ELIGIBILITY.
GOOD
I would think that AZ needs to rewrite the bill to reflect the Constitutional prerequisites. The SOS would NOT have to accept a CERTIFICATION of live birth as valid. It is a known forgery,and invalid.
Didn’t pelosi “deem” him to be born a NBC??
On ALIPAC website…begging for Arizonians to call and support new immigration bill. She is under extreme pressure not to sign.Illegal students skipped class and marched,etc. Her calls are 6-1 against. Needs callers.
oldsalt78: anything is possible with regard to the circumstances of his birth because we actually don’t know anything, for sure, about the circumstances of his birth.
Snopes is correct that IF his mother was underage and IF he was born outside the US, he would not have been a US CITIZEN at birth.
However, even if he was born in the US, it’s arguable whether or not he would be a natural-born US citizen, because of the FACT that his father was an alien.
Even the US Senate resolved that McCain is a NBC because BOTH his parents were citizens at the time of his birth. Not one US citizen parent and one foreign citizen. Two US citizen parents.
We truly do not know FOR SURE exactly who his birth parents were. Do we?
About AZ accepting the COLB: They might do so, but they won’t accept a COLB that wasn’t issued by and certified by the state of Hawaii.
Whatever that piece of paper that FactCheck blog staffers photographed in Chicago, it’s not a document CERTIFIED by the state of Hawaii. The embossed seal on that paper is NOT the seal of the State of Hawaii.
So the only way a COLB will be acceptable, is if Hawaii issues, certifies, and delivers it to AZ. I don’t think they will. Or if they do, it will contain wording other than what you see on that image at FactCheck blog. You can count on that.
Ms Helga…………………………..
Either his mother wore COMBAT BOOTS, or he was a dribble on the ground and the sun HATCHED him.
Does anyone know when lt.Col.Lakin will be allowed discovery? We need more men to grow a pair, and remove the criminal in the white house.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/04/22/arizona-house-oks-requiring-presidential-candidates-provide-birth-certificate/
PHOENIX — The Arizona House approved a bill Wednesday that would require presidential candidates to show his or her birth certificate in order to be on the state’s ballot.
The House approved the measure on a 31-29 vote after four Republicans joined all of the Democrats in opposing it. The measure still faces a Senate vote.
It would require U.S. presidential candidates who want to appear on the Arizona ballot to submit documents proving they meet the constitutional requirements to be president.
So-called “birthers” have contended since the 2008 presidential campaign that President Obama was born abroad, even after his official Hawaii birth certificate was made public along with birth notices that two Honolulu newspapers published in August 1961.
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Of course the reported “had” to add the lie about his Hawaii birth certificate being official and made public.
But the article does state canidates are required to submit documents proving they meet the constitutional requirements to be president. That indicates more than one document.
“Of course the reported”, should read “of course the reporter”
someone who sits in front of these MSM jerks just need to ask them to Define Who is a Natural Born Citizen. cause we all know it takes 2 US Citizen Parents and child born on US Soil and then when they say something different hammer them on Obama Daddy NEVER being a US Citizen
keith // April 22, 2010 at 4:31 pm
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The problem is, MSM thinks you only have to be a citizen. They have no clue about Natural Born Citizen. Even foxnews thinks the same way.
If I recall correctly, at the time that his name was being placed on ballots in 2008, some bloggers reported that opponents (possibly others) could challenge his name being on the ballot based upon his questionable eligibility. Nobody apparently had the guts to do it at the time, or else they didn’t know it was possible, or else they missed the deadline for challenging his name.
Do you think he’ll get by so easily next time? If the Republicans are still complicit, then can’t any independent candidate for POTUS get on the ballot and then challenge him being on the ballot, too?
Sooner or later, the voices crying out about this will reach a crescendo and then maybe that will give the people WITH standing courage.
Ms Helga @ 4:19 “the media going nuts over Arizona bill regarding eligibility.” I had just come home from being out all afternoon, and I heard this on the radio, a local news station quoting CBS news about o having to produce a long form BC in Arizona if he runs in 2012. I came to the computer right away. The news story was brief and to the point and they didn’t seem to favor o in anyway.
Citizen Don in California // April 22, 2010 at 4:34 pm
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Don – You are giving them (The MSM) the excuse of STUPIDITY. I say they are involved in the COMPLICITY of this crime.
SapphireSunday @ 4:35 pm
This is for the lawyers. I watched Gibbs interview earlier. He said it was his bright idea to post the COLB.
On tv shows-law type when the defense/prosecution are going after each other and want to avoid certain questions but the other side asks a question and it provides an opening they usually say until the Judge rules “Well you opened the door”. When Obama/Gibbs posted the COLB (not a legal document/and fraudulent to boot) didn’t they open the door?
What do you think? I don’t know the answer.
ms. helga // April 22, 2010 at 4:47 pm
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Actually, I was giving them the benefit of the doubt about thinking. Maybe I was wrong and they are just anti-Constitutional instead.
http://money.cnn.com/2010/04/22/news/economy/obama_wall_street_reaction/
Wall Street to Obama: Hands off!
NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) — Misguided. Unworkable. Hypocritical.
Wall Street was unimpressed by President Obama’s argument for financial reform on Thursday. The reaction of nearly a dozen financial industry workers ranged from skepticism to animosity.
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“It doesn’t seem necessary for him to come down here,” said Frank Clemente, a stock broker. “It’s all political, not any real reform.”
i george // April 22, 2010 at 4:42 pm
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I mainly watch MSNBC for their rantings. Someone has to keep their eyes on the enemy!
GE & Microsoft own MSNBC and Jeffrey Immult, GE’S President sits on as head of Obama’s Advisory boards. And by the way GE has yet to clean-up the Hudson River from all the pcb’s it dumped ther years ago and no Gov. officials has made them clean-up yet. And we are talking billions of $$.
Citizen Don and ms helga: I don’t think the MSM misunderstood the law. They say “citizen” in order to mislead people who don’t know better. They WANT to make people believe that all that’s required is citizenship. It’s no accident that they say citizen.
They know what natural born citizen means. They know what naturalized citizen means. If they didn’t know, then the news stories when people challenged McCain’s status most certainly educated them.
I don’t think it’s a coincidence that they either say “native born” or simply “citizen.” They know that Obama is NOT natural born and they know, at the very least, that they were remiss in their duty as journalists to “vet” him.
Either they were sloppy or they were complicit. Neither is a good excuse for continuing to shill for Obama.
There are 2 MSNBC shows I advise all commenters here to watch. Chris Matthews and Keith Olbermann. Don’t watch it on your tv because it will give them elec. ratings. I watch them on the computer. I also remove any breakable objects within reach of my hands.
REMEMBER THE WHOLE WORLD DOESN’T RUN ON OIL. IT RUNS ON RATINGS!!
Michelle: I commented about Gibbs several times at this link:
Curious what you all think of my interpretation. imho, Gibbs blew the door wide open.
SapphireSunday // April 22, 2010 at 5:06 pm
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They are complicit to the core and MORE.
The Democrat Party, Hollywood, the Main Stream Media, all the Unions and Trial Lawyers are tied to this USURPER.
ms. helga // April 22, 2010 at 3:03 pm
LEGAL EAGLE HELP
I am sorry to be OT but something is driving me nuts. I have been reading all the articles on the Arizona bill to make Obama show his BC to prove NBC. All the articles from the MSM keep quoting the “Scopes” argument which proves he is legitimate.
Any help will be very appreciated.
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Hey, Obots, using a ‘copy’ of something to prove a point (Hawaiian COLB) is like you receiving a copy of a payroll check for employment —see if the bank deposits it!!!
If Rumplestiltskin does testify he’ll probably plead the Fifth. But, it will be interesting to see what name Rod’s attorney’s state on the caption of their pleadings. Rumplestiltskin aka Steve aka Barry aka Barack is no doubt going to bring a gun to this knife fight and it will be hard not to watch the rumble. If I were disposed to bet on this match, I’d place my money on the natural born Chicagoan because I have some understanding of his roots and politics, and that is more than I can say about the other party.
Hot Rod’s recitiation of the Rudyard Kipling’s poem, “If” brought him to the attention of TPTB (the powers that be) decades ago and he embarked upon a circuit of recitations of this poem throughout Chicagoland public schools. So many years ago, Hot Rod bragged to his cousin that he had been chosen for something very important and that the people who contacted him were going to use him as their ‘ace up their sleeve’ for an important job. His cousin dismissed his claims summarily at the time, questioning how reciting a poem could lead to anything bigger than a captive audience and pat on the back from his teachers. Yet here we, nonetheless, see Hot Rod performing the role of a lifetime on the world stage.
In one of the most corrupt cities in America, ‘family’ connections serve as a natural springboard into Chicago politics where everything is pay to play. No doubt, Hot Rod’s confidence and speaking ability were formidable assets in convincing voters that he was their candidate. However, you have to marvel at how someone with his background could still have such empathy for the elderly and the impoverished. Yet, one need only look to the patchwork of working-class immigrant enclaves within Chicagoland to understand that decades ago in every immigrant enclave of ethnic Chicagoans valued their faith, cultural traditions and support for the members of their ethnic community. The children of these immigrants were instilled with ethnic and community pride and if you visit Chicago and travel to the various neighborhoods you will enjoy the wonderful food, good and hospitality in each little ethnic enclave. Chicagoans are proud of their neighborhoods and their ethnic backgrounds. So, Hot Rod’s empathy for the poor and elderly was probably ingrained upon his consciousness from his youth.
Yet, it would be also be an error to mistake his surface affability and charisma for reticence to defend his turf. According to a family member who once made the mistake of making an ill-timed remark at a family holiday dinner, fireworks and threats were quick to follow the perceived insult to the family honor and family business. Rumplestiltskin, otoh, always appears as cool as a cucumber, but people within his charmed circle seem to meet unfortunate circumstances or political stumbling blocks.
It is unfortunate for all of us little people that Hot Rod and Rumplestiltskin didn’t pursue acting careers in Hollywood! While Hot Rod and Rumplestiltskin are performing their skillfully choreographed dance of the Jets and the Sharks, watch the Democratic Progressive Socialists/Communists to railroad through financial reform. The financial chaos caused by the unstable, unregulated derivatives (thanks Repubs, Dems and Bill Clinton), provides the perfect crisis opportunity for reforms installing the new order they need to build a global carbon derivatives exchange. Think of Rumplestiltskin and Hot Rod as the short feature film before the blockbuster.
JJ: 🙂 Good one!
magna carta // April 22, 2010 at 4:10 pm
April 22, 2010 10:35 AM
Arizona House Advances “Birther” Bill; Hawaii Moves to Slow “Birther” Requests
Posted by Stephanie Condon
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20003153-503544.html
“The Arizona House on Wednesday advanced the so-called “birther bill” that has drawn widespread criticism, but lawmakers in Hawaii are moving forward with their own legislation to ignore the “birther” questions.
The Arizona “birther bill” would require Arizona’s secretary of state to review a presidential candidate’s birth certificate before that candidate could get on the ballot in the state. It was attached as an amendment to a larger bill modifying the way candidates’ names appear on the state ballot. That bill passed by a vote of 31 to 29 and received only the support of Republicans. It now moves to the state Senate before the governor can sign it into law.
The Arizona Republic reported earlier that the legislation originated from a “fringe group that believes President Barack Obama is not a natural-born citizen of the United States and therefore ineligible to be president.”
The so-called “birther movement,” questioning Mr. Obama’s origins, began during his presidential campaign. It has steadily persisted through Mr. Obama’s presidency, in spite of overwhelming evidence he was born in the United States — including his 1961 birth announcement, printed in two Hawaii newspapers.”
Key Words in this article only:
Birth Certificate…A Birth Certificate is not a Certification of Live Birth.
It still has to pass the Senate and then, the Governor can either sign the bill or veto it.
fernleygirl // April 22, 2010 at 5:14 pm
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I guess now we will see if as the defendent, he gets discovery to determine if the president is in fact a legal Commander in Chief. I pray for the LtCol.
Linda: Unfortunately, somewhere I read the text of the law and it says the application to be on the ballot must have “documents” attached that prove natural born citizenship status. It doesn’t seem to specify what documents must be attached.
RON PAUL BEING INTERVIEWED ON HARDBALL NOW -MSNBC
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Rocknee // April 22, 2010 at 2:19 pm
Two articles. Is it RAP working?
1. http://lawprofessors.typepad.com/legal_profession/2010/04/montana-unauthorized-practice-commission-dissolved.html
2. Restore America Plan – South Carolina Nonviolent Criminals Released
Rec’d from B. – 1st posting ever – Very Nice and Thanks
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Hello John,
I have never posted on a forum and I would rather not as I am more of a quiet person but I thought this news report was interesting enough to mention in relation to RAP. I emailed you directly as I don’t know the first thing about posting comments or forums
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California announced that they will release over 6,000 prisoners….said it was because of Budget Issues. RAP??
States can’t afford to keep all the prisoners they have in the jails.
Also, O is setting them free to get the felony vote and then they can become his civilian army.
TO:
SapphireSunday // April 22, 2010 at 5:40 pm
Linda: Unfortunately, somewhere I read the text of the law and it says the application to be on the ballot must have “documents” attached that prove natural born citizenship status. It doesn’t seem to specify what documents must be attached.
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Anyone running for Prez has to present 3 Birth Certificates.
His and one each for his 2 biological parents.
In case one or both parents were not born in USA then he has to present their Naturalization Papers if this is not presented Candidate is DISQUALIFIED and cannot be on the ballot.
*** Notice ***
I added a link to the Blagojevich motion.
Click to access obama.pdf
Linda from NY // April 22, 2010 at 5:33 pm
magna carta // April 22, 2010 at 4:10 pm
April 22, 2010 10:35 AM
Arizona House Advances “Birther” Bill; Hawaii Moves to Slow “Birther” Requests
Posted by Stephanie Condon
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20003153-503544.html
“The Arizona House on Wednesday advanced the so-called “birther bill” that has drawn widespread criticism, but lawmakers in Hawaii are moving forward with their own legislation to ignore the “birther” questions.
The Arizona “birther bill” would require Arizona’s secretary of state to review a presidential candidate’s birth certificate before that candidate could get on the ballot in the state. It was attached as an amendment to a larger bill modifying the way candidates’ names appear on the state ballot. That bill passed by a vote of 31 to 29 and received only the support of Republicans. It now moves to the state Senate before the governor can sign it into law.
The Arizona Republic reported earlier that the legislation originated from a “fringe group that believes President Barack Obama is not a natural-born citizen of the United States and therefore ineligible to be president.”
The so-called “birther movement,” questioning Mr. Obama’s origins, began during his presidential campaign. It has steadily persisted through Mr. Obama’s presidency, in spite of overwhelming evidence he was born in the United States — including his 1961 birth announcement, printed in two Hawaii newspapers.”
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Everyone should be emailing both that CBS News link and the Arizona Republic with the link to my article proving no such contemporaneous birth announcements exist.
(This is the article that traces how APFC stole an image from the td blog, posted there anonymously and, without any further investigation or authentication, on the basis of this stolen image now proclaimed, this was proof BO was born in the U.S.A.) (Of course, even if he was born in the U.S.A., this fact alone does not make him natural born. And both BO and APFC evidently know this, because they do not claim on the internet he is natural born but only proclaim, he is native born, pretending this is a distinction without a Constitutional difference.)
ms. helga // April 22, 2010 at 4:19 pm
Whatever for? Why should they care? If Osmirk is really eligible, this should be no problem. One would think that the most the MSM could say is that this is a tempest in a teapot and a waste of time. But why would they disparage it or be afraid of it?
Just askin’
TO:
Kim // April 22, 2010 at 5:58 pm
States can’t afford to keep all the prisoners they have in the jails.
Also, O is setting them free to get the felony vote and then they can become his civilian army.
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Especially since many of them converted to be Mooslums like the one recently arrested with a huge cache of weapons Abdullah Moohammed Mooslum…somehow we didn’t hear about this extremist but we can’t stop hearing about the Christians that were arrested in Michigan.
SapphireSunday // April 22, 2010 at 5:40 pm
Sapphire: Does that mean they can define those “documents” whenever even after the bill is signed into law?
One would think the bill would be complete with “definitions” and/or “specifications” prior to presentment for signature.
This is maddening! Who wrote this bill? a 3rd Grader?
Thanks for the info…Linda
PS BTW…Where did you find the “text” of the bill?
Michelle // April 22, 2010 at 4:16 pm
I read that Moochelle was collecting payoffs for Daley……got caught and lost her license.
Just another stray thought:
If o has to testify, could he be required to prove his “real” name or would the court take his word for it?
MSNBC IS GOING BALLISTIC NOW
We are (The Birthers) are driving them nuts.
Charges filed against officer who challenged Obama’s eligibility
Benaiah // April 22, 2010 at 6:13 pm
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Isn’t that what he wanted so that he would have standing?
SapphireSunday // April 22, 2010 at 5:21 pm
JJ: Good one!
They’re Obots….you have to keep it simple!!
JJ // April 22, 2010 at 6:17 pm
SapphireSunday // April 22, 2010 at 5:21 pm
JJ: Good one!
They’re Obots….you have to keep it simple!!
OH–Shoot!! INstead of copy of payroll check……should have used copy of welfare check…….they’d undersaand that better.
“fringe group that believes President Barack Obama is not a natural-born citizen of the United States and therefore ineligible to be president.”
haahaa! Don’t you just love it. Millions of Americans are a “fringe group.” These people can’t accept reality, I’ll tell you. LOL! What idiots, but I want to say something different, and I’ll be nice.
citizenwells // April 22, 2010 at 6:01 pm
*** Notice ***
I added a link to the Blagojevich motion.
Click to access obama.pdf
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CW: Thanks for posting this great news! I’m beginning to like judge Zagel real well.
Excerpt:
Now Comes Defendant Rod Blagojevich, by and through his counsels and hereby
requests this court issue a subpoena ad testificandum for President Barack Obama. In support of
said motion, defendant states the following:1
JJ @ 6:07 pm
Oh that’s what got her into trouble. Even though I grew up in the Chicago suburbs I still wonder how they do that? Cash in a brown paper bag? plain white envelope? you hear about this stuff but you don’t know the mechanics of the bribe process.
OMG – APFC seems to have removed the false newspaper announcement. Let me look elsewhere… I will get back to you.
ms. helga @ 6:13 pm
MSNBC IS GOING BALLISTIC NOW
I wonder why? there are so many reasons to choose from. Like complicity for starters.
CBS news is on I have to listen for what is NOT reported.
Has anyone heard any news about LCDR Walter Fitzpatrick III and his case in Tenn???
Errr, I just re-read the motion and see it’s just a defense motion, and not an order. DOH!
Lurker // April 22, 2010 at 6:23 pm
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I like item 34. the presidents busy schedule. Would that be his golf schedule or basketball schedule, maybe his party schedule?
Have you all seen this?:
“Redactions Revealed: The Six Secrets You Need to Know From the Obama Subpoena Request”
Source: http://www.nbcchicago.com/blogs/ward-room/The-Six-Secrets-You-Need-to-Know-From-the-Blagojevich-Filing-91848634.html#ixzz0ls7tPW2f
“Birth announcement” at FactCheck —-
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“In fact, the conspiracy would need to be even deeper than our colleagues realized. In late July, a researcher looking to dig up dirt on Obama instead found a birth announcement that had been published in the Honolulu Advertiser on Sunday, Aug. 13, 1961:
“Obama’s birth announcement”
The announcement was posted by a pro-Hillary Clinton blogger who grudgingly concluded that Obama “likely” was born Aug. 4, 1961 in Honolulu.
Of course, it’s distantly possible that Obama’s grandparents may have planted the announcement just in case their grandson needed to prove his U.S. citizenship in order to run for president someday. We suggest that those who choose to go down that path should first equip themselves with a high-quality tinfoil hat. The evidence is clear: Barack Obama was born in the U.S.A.”
http://factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html
LMAOooooo Don @ 6:44 pm! Or perhaps teatime with Reggie and Kal. Sorry, I couldn’t resist.
Speaking of Kalee Poo
http://www.artistdirect.com/entertainment-news/article/actor-politico-kal-penn-robbed-in-washington-dc/6667426
Citizen Don in California // April 22, 2010 at 6:37 pm
(Update) Fitzpatrick – New Hearing date May 4 2010, 1:00PM
Posted by Exploring the Natural Born Citizen Clause on April 20, 2010
“The rumors are that the trial date has been scheduled for May 4, 2010 at 1:00PM
Updates on the exact charges and more later. No reports on any attempts at more citizen’s arrests.
In other news, “Effort under way to make Monroe County Courthouse lawn ‘greener’”
As to the question of how there can be probable cause to illegally detain, I present the following
Leo Patrick Haffey says:
Tuesday, April 20, 2010 at 3:15 PM
Just got off the phone with Carl.
Darren was detained by agents for failing to come to a complete stop at a stop sign.
Being that the agents had NO PROBABLE CAUSE to ILLEGALLY DETAIN Darren, they wisely released him.
Carl got it all on video and it will be displayed on RiseUpForAmerica.com tomorrow.
Commander Fitzpatrick’s hearing has been re-set for May 4th.
http://nativeborncitizen.wordpress.com/2010/04/20/fitzpatrick-trial-date-may-4-2010-100pm/
“US NAVY SEAL CLEARED OF CHARGES”
Now there are two others facing their trial. What a travesty of justice Obama has made of everything American.
All three Navy Seals should be heralded as heroes! All has been turned upside down since a Muslim Jihadist has entered the WH. What we know to be right is called wrong. What we know to be wrong is called right. The Musllims are using America’s own virtues against America. It’s called taquiya. O’Muslim and his goons are masters of that!
GORDO // April 22, 2010 at 6:51 pm
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I looked at those pictures of the Cert. and noticed 1) that one of the stamps on it, signed, was described as an abstract.
2) father still listed as African, not negro.
3) HA DOH only stated they had his original on file and where it came from or what it had on it.
Could go on, but factcheck is bogus anyway.
“on file and where ” should be ” and not where”
This was in my e-mail this afternoon. Some of the information sounds like the old April Fool’s joke from last year. Some of it seems new. What is bothering me about it is the lack of specific dates and authorities. Nevertheless, I wish to share this in hopes just maybe we are inching a little closer to nailing Ofraud.
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VERY QUIETLY OBAMA’S CITIZENSHIP CASE REACHES THE SUPREME COURT
AP- WASHINGTON D.C. – In a move certain to fuel the debate over Obama’s qualifications for the presidency, the group “Americans for Freedom of Information” has released copies of President Obama’s college transcripts from Occidental College . Released today, the transcript from the school indicates that Obama, under the name Barry Soetoro, received financial aid as a foreign student from Indonesia as an undergraduate.
The transcript was released by Occidental College in compliance with a court order in a suit brought by the group in the Superior Court of California.
The transcript shows that Obama (Soetoro) applied for financial aid and was awarded a fellowship for foreign students from the Fulbright Foundation Scholarship program. To qualify, for the scholarship, a student must claim foreign citizenship.
This document would seem to provide the smoking gun that many of Obama’s detractors have been seeking. Along with
the evidence that he was first born in Kenya and there is no record of him ever applying for US citizenship, this is
looking pretty grim.
The news has created a firestorm at the White House as the release casts increasing doubt about Obama’s
legitimacy and qualification to serve as President article titled, “Obama Eligibility Questioned,” leading
some to speculate that the story may overshadow economic issues on Obama’s first official visit to the U.K.
In a related matter, under growing pressure from several groups, Justice Antonin Scalia announced that
the Supreme Court agreed on Tuesday to hear arguments concerning Obama’s legal eligibility to serve as
President in a case brought by Leo Donofrio of New Jersey . This lawsuit claims Obama’s dual citizenship
disqualified him from serving as president. Donofrio’s case is just one of 18 suits brought by citizens demanding
proof of Obama’s citizenship or qualification to serve as president.
Gary Kreep of the United States Justice Foundation has released the results of their investigation of Obama’s
campaign spending. This study estimates that Obama has spent upwards of $950,000 in campaign funds in the past
year with eleven law firms in 12 states for legal resources to block disclosure of any of his personal records. Mr.
Kreep indicated that the investigation is still ongoing but that the final report will be provided to the U.S.
attorney general, Eric Holder.
Mr. Holder has refused to comment on the matter.
PLEASE LET ALL ON YOUR E-MAIL LIST KNOW THIS NEWS, THE MEDIA WON’T!
Subject: The Issue of his Passport?
While I’ve little interest in getting in the middle of the Obama birth issue, Paul Hollrah over at FSM did so yesterday and believes the issue can be resolved by Obama answering one simple question: What passport did he use when he was shuttling between New York , Jakarta ,and Karachi ?
So how did a young man who arrived in New York in early June 1981, without the price of a hotel room in his pocket,
suddenly come up with the price of a round-the-world trip just a month later?
And once he was on a plane, shuttling between New York , Jakarta , and Karachi , what passport was he offering when he passed through Customs and Immigration?
The American people not only deserve to have answers to these questions, they must have answers. It makes the debate over Obama’s citizenship a rather short and simple one.
Q: Did he travel to Pakistan in 1981, at age 20?
A : Yes, by his own admission.
Q: What passport did he travel under?
A: There are only three possibilities.
1) He traveled with a U.S. . . Passport,
2) He traveled with a British passport, or
3) He traveled with an Indonesia passport.
Q: Is it possible that Obama traveled with a U.S.
Passport in 1981?
A: No.. It is not possible. Pakistan was on the U.S. State
Department’s “no travel” list in 1981.
Conclusion: When Obama went to Pakistan in 1981 he was traveling either with a British passport or an Indonesian passport.
If he were traveling with a British passport that would provide proof that he was born in Kenya on August 4,1961, not in Hawaii as he claims. And if he were traveling with an Indonesian passport that would tend to prove that he relinquished whatever previous citizenship he held, British or American, prior to being adopted by his Indonesian step-father in 1967.
Whatever the truth of the matter, the American people need to know how he managed to become a “natural born” American citizen between 1981 and 2008..
Given the destructive nature of his plans for America, as illustrated by his speech before Congress and the disastrous spending plan he has presented to Congress,the sooner we learn the truth of all this,the better.
If you Don’t care that Your President is not a natural born Citizen and in Violation of the Constitution, then delete this and go into your cocoon. If you do care then please forward this to all! “
Linda from NY // April 22, 2010 at 7:01 pm
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Thanks
Please, send my link to the article on my blog containing that ‘now you see it, now you don’t’ image of the unattributed newspaper birth announcement posted on APFC. I replaced the link with a screen capture of that image.
In short,
(sorry, sent too soon)
In short, here is the proof, CBS News and Arizona Republic: THERE WAS NO CONTEMPORANEOUS NEWSPAPER BIRTH ANNOUNCEMENT!
Regarding the proof of citizenship law Arizona is trying to pass.
Rush mentioned this yesterday on his broadcast. He also said msm is claiming Arizona is the laughing stock of the country. Rush wasn’t laughing at it but did report what was in the press.
We should all get behind Arizona and acknowledge their integrity and courage to go forward on this issue. Any one who will be lauging will be we who have endured every kind of humiliating attack by the criminals for having the audacity to challenge them!
oldsalt78 // April 22, 2010 at 4:11 pm
Howdy, Old Salt :),
Don’t know if you remember, but I believe that it was Kitty who came up with a link that stated that Barky was 52 last year. If that’s so, and if he was born in Hawaii (doubtful) that would’ve occurred in 1957…before Hawaii became a state.
This is what I think Kitty found-his MySpace page linked through WND:
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=107163
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citizenwells // April 22, 2010 at 6:01 pm
*** Notice ***
I added a link to the Blagojevich motion.
Click to access obama.pdf
Thanks for posting this link…very interesting.
Why are portions “blacked” out? Do they refer to “people” who cannot be identified?
Just wondering…Linda
Citizen Don in California // April 22, 2010 at 4:15 pm
Got it, Don…see my post to OldSalt @ 7:11PM.
I just crack up at the stupid MSM now, or the LSM or LSD or whoever they are. Maybe they’re on LSD and that’s the think that Barky is on.
Look, those guys are totally losing it. They’re grasping at their cocaine straws or whatever. Most Americans want to know where Barky was born. They are total idiots.
Now I’m going to go and eat. To heck with those suckers!
SueK // April 22, 2010 at 7:13 pm
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Thanks, my memory is not perfect. Glad you were there to cover for me. 🙂
SueK // April 22, 2010 at 7:11 pm
Hmm?!
great find by Kitty
The plot thickens. Is there anything for sure that we know about o that we can count on with any certainty?
Regarding Arizona’s new and tough immigration policy.
Imagine that! Some people are screaming its racial profiling and Arizona is wrong for doing so. Those same people want all the benefits, government handouts, and freebies they can get from America. The problem is the more illegals who enter USA cost billions, the less there is for them to get.
They cannot have it both ways. I support Arizona for its actions with the new laws. If a person is legally in this country he/she has nothing to worry about. All the legal people of color should understand this protects them as well as the rest of Americans.
I hope California does the same. Besides being an inept governor–one of the other reasons Arnie couldn’t balance the budget and refused to acknowledge it–is the cost of illegal aliens to California. It is in the big, big billions.
kittycat // April 22, 2010 at 7:17 pm
Now I’m going to go and eat. To heck with those suckers!
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Just be careful and don’t drink koolaid with the eats?? LOL
usapatriots-shout // April 22, 2010 at 7:18 pm
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If I ever went “totally” insane and became Governor of CA, my first action would be to require “all” state agencies to verify citizenship prior to providing any services.
But, that’s just me.
Blago is doing what everyone WANTS him to do — and that is “to pin the tail on the donkey!”
And to me it is VERY INTERESTING that the Pentagon appears to be WILLING to prosecute Col. Lakin! The Hemenway legal team is to be commended on how they have handled this case so far. Without now proving that he is in fact a ‘natural-born Citizen,’ and eligible to the office, Obama has handed everyone in the military an unlimited free pass home. And, the Hemenway’s have made that clear to the Pentagon, forcing the issue upon them.
Patriot Dreamer @ 6:49 pm & Linda @ 7:12 pm
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Patriot Dreamer, the blog is correct. You can copy/paste the blacked out portion to another document. I copied it to Mac TextEdit. See blacked out portion below. Sorry for pasting such a long post, but one never knows, the document could go poof once it’s discovered that it can be read in it’s entirety.
Read on Linda! 😀
9. Yet, despite President Obama stating that no representatives of his had any part of
any deals, labor union president told the FBI and the United States Attorneys that he
spoke to labor union official on November 3, 2008 who received a phone message
from Obama that evening. After labor union official listened to the message
labor union official told labor union president “I’m the one”. Labor union
president took that to mean that labor union official was to be the one to deliver
the message on behalf of Obama that Senate Candidate B was his pick. (Labor
union president 302, February 2, 2009, p. 7).
10. Labor union official told the FBI and the United States Attorneys “Obama expressed
his belief that [Senate Candidate B] would be a good Senator for the people of
Illinois and would be a candidate who could win re-election. [Labor union
official] advised Obama that [labor union official] would reach out to Governor
Blagojevich and advocate for [Senate Candidate B].. . . [Labor union official]
called [labor union president] and told [labor union president] that Obama was
aware that [labor union official] would be reaching out to Blagojevich.” (Labor
union official 302, February 3, 2009 p. 3).
11. According to Senate Candidate B, on November, 4 2008, Senate Candidate B
spoke with labor union official about the Senate seat. Labor union official said
he spoke to Obama. Labor union official said he was going to meet with
Blagojevich and said “he was going to push Blagojevich hard on this. According
to Senate Candidate B, labor union official’s language could have been stronger
than the language that she was reporting to the government.” (Senate Candidate
B 302, December 19, 2008).
12. On November 5, 2008, Blagojevich told John Harris that labor union official “talked
to Barack Obama, wants to come and see me.” Blagojevich then told Harris that
labor union official “was very explicit with me, “I talked to Barack about the
Senate seat. Can I come and see ya? Can I do it tomorrow?’ I said, sure.”
(Blagojevich Home Phone Call # 261).
13. A supporter of Presidential Candidate Obama suggested that she talk to the wife of
Governor Blagojevich about Senate Candidate B for Senator. (Valerie Jarrett
302, December 19, 2008). Supporter of Presidential Candidate Obama is
mentioned in a phone call on November 3, 2008, having offered “fundraising” in
exchange for Senate Candidate B for senator (Blagojevich Home Phone Call #
149).
17. President-elect Obama also spoke to Governor Blagojevich on December 1, 2008
in Philadelphia. On Harris Cell Phone Call # 139, John Harris and Governor’s
legal counsel discuss a conversation Blagojevich had with President-elect
Obama. The government claims a conspiracy existed from October 22, 2008
continuing through December 9, 2008.6 That conversation is relevant to the defense
of the government’s theory of an ongoing conspiracy. Only Rod Blagojevich and
President Obama can testify to the contents of that conversation. The defense is
allowed to present evidence that corroborates the defendant’s testimony.7
18. President-elect Obama also suggested Senate Candidate A to Governor Blagojevich.
John Harris told the FBI and the United States Attorneys that he spoke to
President’s Chief of Staff on November 12, 2008. Harris took notes of the
conversation and wrote that President’s Chief had previously worked as
Blagojevich’s press secretary. Obama agreed of Staff told Harris that Senate
Candidate A was acceptable to Obama as a senate pick. (Harris handwritten
notes, OOG1004463) President’s Chief of Staff told the FBI that “he could not
say where but somewhere it was communicated to him that” Senate Candidate A
was a suggested candidate viewed as one of the four “right” candidates “by the
Obama transition team.” (Rahm Emanuel 302, p. 5, December 20, 2008). Harris
told Blagojevich Obama’s suggestion on November 12, 2008 (Blagojevich Home
Phone Call # 539).
19. President-elect Obama was also involved in other senate candidate choices. On
December 8, 2008, John Harris’ secretary’s call log noted President’s Chief of
Staff called at 10:47 am and wrote “needs to talk to you asap” (Harris 302,
February 20, 2009). President’s Chief of Staff told the FBI that he had a
conversation discussing the Senate seat with Obama on December 7, 2008 in
Obama’s car. President’s Chief of Staff told the FBI “Obama expressed concern
about Senate Candidate D being appointed as Senator. [President’s Chief of
Staff] suggested they might need an expanded list to possibly include names of
African Americans that came out of the business world. [President’s Chief of
Staff] thought he suggested Senate Candidate E who was the head of the Urban
League and with President’s Chief of Staff’s suggestion.” (President’s Chief of
Staff, 302, 12-20-08).
22. However, the defense has a good faith belief that Mr. Rezko, President Obama’s
former friend, fund-raiser, and neighbor told the FBI and the United States Attorneys
a different story about President Obama. In a recent in camera proceeding, the
government tendered a three paragraph letter indicating that Rezko “has stated
in interviews with the government that he engaged in election law violations by
personally contributing a large sum of cash to the campaign of a public official
who is not Rod Blagojevich. … Further, the public official denies being aware of
cash contributions to his campaign by Rezko or others and denies having
conversations with Rezko related to cash contributions. … Rezko has also stated
in interviews with the government that he believed he transmitted a quid pro quo
offer from a lobbyist to the public official, whereby the lobbyist would hold a
fundraiser for the official in exchange for favorable official action, but that the
public official rejected the offer. The public official denies any such
conversation. In addition, Rezko has stated to the government that he and the
public official had certain conversations about gaming legislation and
administration, which the public official denies having had.”10
23. President Obama is the only one who can testify as to the veracity of Mr. Rezko’s
allegations above.
10
The defense has a good faith belief that this public official is Barack Obama. See, “Obama on Rezko deal: It
was a mistake”, Dave McKinney, Chris Fusco, and Mark Brown, Chicago Sun Times, November 5, 2006. Senator
Barack Obama was asked: “Did Rezko or his companies ever solicit your support on any matter involving state or
federal government? Did Al Johnson, who was trying to get a casino license along with Tony Rezko, or Rezko
himself ever discuss casino matters with you?” Senator Obama answered: “No, I have never been asked to do
anything to advance his business interest. In 1999, when I was a State Senator, I opposed legislation to bring a
casino to Rosemont and allow casino gambling at docked riverboats which news reports said Al Johnson and Tony
Rezko were interested in being part of. I never discussed a casino license with either of them. I was a vocal
opponent of the legislation.” Obama’s involvement with Tony Rezko and this legislation coincides with the
three paragraph summary the government has provided to the defense referenced above.
Redactions Revealed: The Six Secrets You Need to Know From the Obama Subpoena Request…
http://www.nbcchicago.com/blogs/ward-room/The-Six-Secrets-You-Need-to-Know-From-the-Blagojevich-Filing-91848634.html
Read The Unredacted Version of the Motion here; http://static.cbslocal.com/station/wbbm/docs/Blagojevich%20Obama%20Subpoena%20UNREDACTED.doc
Where is the news about AZ on Drudge?
Linda: Here’s a link to the text of the AZ bill on presidential eligibility:
http://www.azleg.gov/legtext/49leg/2r/bills/sb1024h.htm
“B. The national political party committee for a candidate for president for a party that is entitled to continued representation on the ballot shall provide to the secretary of state written notice of that political party’s nomination of its candidates for president and vice‑president. Within ten days after submittal of the names of the candidates, the national political party committee shall submit an affidavit of the presidential candidate in which the presidential candidate states the candidate’s citizenship and age and shall append to the affidavit documents that prove that the candidate is a natural born citizen, prove the candidate’s age and prove that the candidate meets the residency requirements for President of the United States as prescribed in article II, section 1, Constitution of the United States.
C. The secretary of state shall review the affidavit and other documents submitted by the national political party committee and, if the secretary of state has reasonable cause to believe that the candidate does not meet the citizenship, age and residency requirements prescribed by law, the secretary of state shall not place that candidate’s name on the ballot. ”
What’s frustrating is that they DON’T define exactly what documents are required to satisfy the Secretary of State that there’s no “reasonable cause to believe” the person is ineligible.
It depends, in the end, on the Sec. of State’s judgment about what is “prescribed in article II, section 1, Constitution of the United States.”
Wow. That’s amazing stuff about Blago and Obama. Who’s the “labor union official?”
New deadly fungus spreading from Canada to US, hmm….wonder who started this one?
Now it doesn’t only spread to humans but your animals too.
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N22129903.htm
That fungus is airborne!
SueK:
Have you heard anything about that crap yet? Meaning that airborne fungus.
Blagojevich to judge: Make Obama testify
Ex-gov says president had more of a role in pushing Valerie Jarrett to replace him in the Senate
http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/blagojevich/2190084,blago-asks-judge-to-make-obama-testify-042210.article
Sing canary sing! lol This just keeps getting juicier by the minute.
SapphireSunday // April 22, 2010 at 7:36 pm
Sapphire: I do not think we need to know what documents need to be used to substantiate a person is a “natural born citizen.”
The documents to which they refer are somehow linked to citizenship, age, and residency requirements. For president, citizenship must be on US soil of two parents who are citizens. If the parents are “naturalized citizens,” then proof of that must be part of the documentation. A birth certificate will prove age [a driver’s license could be a second proof of age], and income tax returns could prove residency over a period of time [utility bills have been used, too].
Maybe, the reason these documents are not “spelled out” is because there could be a variety of documents that substantiate/prove the person meets the requirements and/or is qualified. When all of the substantiating documents are presented, then his/her name can then be entered on the ballot.
Does that make sense? I hope so…Linda
I wonder why Drudge doesn’t have news on the AZ bill.
Must be something on these tapes, MMMM.
View more news videos at: http://www.nbcchicago.com/video.
Stephanie Condon wrote the article “Linda from NY at 5:33 pm” linked:
“Arizona House Advances “Birther” Bill; Hawaii Moves to Slow “Birther” Request”
Sharon Rondeau of “The Post & Email” had this in response to “Tom Tancredo Suggests Obama Go ‘Back To Kenya'” by Stephanie Condon:
“We are the media!
TOGETHER, WE CAN FORCE THE TRUTH TO SEE THE LIGHT OF DAY”
“A CBS report from yesterday demonstrates how willfully irresponsible the “mainstream” media has become.
…
Further, the writer, Stephanie Condon, provides no context or background as to why Tancredo might have made such a comment. Instead of providing a link to a story with the video of Michelle Obama stating that Kenya is her husband’s “home country,” quoting from the transcript, or even questioning how Tancredo arrived at that conclusion, she incorrectly stated that there is “overwhelming evidence he (Obama) was born in the United States — including his 1961 birth announcement, printed in two Hawaii newspapers.”
The ludicrous position of writers such as Condon is becoming more evident by the day. In spite of their previous attempts to squelch all discussion about Obama’s background, they are admitting that the doubts about his birthplace and other details of his life have “steadily persisted” from the campaign through today.”
Sorry wrong vid. Try this link.
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/93475-video-blago-explodes-outside-courthouse
Linda: I’m afraid it will fall back on whatever definition of “natural born citizen” the AZ Sec. of State uses.
You say, “For president, citizenship must be on US soil of two parents who are citizens. ”
But some people dispute that. He can present the COLB (if it’s actually legitimate and certified by the state of Hawaii and comes out of their database). But for the sake of argument, let’s suppose it is and he does submit that alone, then he can argue that it says born in Hawaii and that makes him a NBC. It also gives his age. So then all he needs is to prove residency for 14 years.
I don’t know if the Sec. of State will go so far as to demand citizenship status for his parents at the time of his birth. WE would. But will the AZ Sec. of State? It will take some guts to stand up to all the pressure. The weasel way out would be to say that what Obama presented is “reasonable” enough. What party does the AZ Sec. of State belong to, anyway? Will that person still be Sec. of State in 2012?
Of course, since the SCOTUS has never truly defined “natural born citizen” and the Constitution didn’t spell it out, either, then if the Sec. of State has the guts to say he or she isn’t satisfied that Obama meets NBC eligibility, then Obama will have to take it to the SCOTUS and then maybe we’ll finally get a ruling.
Yet by then he will have at least 2 sympathetic judges on the SCOTUS, the most recent of which, stories say, he wants to make sure will be a PERSUASIVE person–meaning that he wants someone who can inviegle (or strong arm) the other justices, especially the swing voter, into voting his way.
He’s a sly one, remember. He has all the angles covered.
jbjd // April 22, 2010 at 7:10 pm
Great work jbjd…
Hey everyone, this may be pretty serious. Think of having warmer weather starting up and helping this sucker spread more. This is from that link that I posted. Looks like it’s hitting healthy people now when it wasn’t before and their animals like dogs and cats.
“Potentially deadly fungus spreading in US, Canada
22 Apr 2010 22:21:58 GMT
Source: Reuters
* Fungus is unique genetic strain
* Climate change may aid its spread
WASHINGTON, April 22 (Reuters) – A potentially deadly strain of fungus is spreading among animals and people in the northwestern United States and the Canadian province of British Columbia, researchers reported on Thursday.
The airborne fungus, called Cryptococcus gattii, usually only infects transplant and AIDS patients and people with otherwise compromised immune systems, but the new strain is genetically different, the researchers said.
“This novel fungus is worrisome because it appears to be a threat to otherwise healthy people,” said Edmond Byrnes of Duke University in North Carolina, who led the study.
“The findings presented here document that the outbreak of C. gattii in Western North America is continuing to expand throughout this temperate region,” the researchers said in their report, published in the Public Library of Science journal PLoS Pathogens at http://dx.plos.org/10.1371/journal.ppat.1000850.
“Our findings suggest further expansion into neighboring regions is likely to occur and aim to increase disease awareness in the region.”
The new strain appears to be unusually deadly, with a mortality rate of about 25 percent among the 21 U.S. cases analyzed, they said.
“From 1999 through 2003, the cases were largely restricted to Vancouver Island,” the report reads.
“Between 2003 and 2006, the outbreak expanded into neighboring mainland British Columbia and then into Washington and Oregon from 2005 to 2009. Based on this historical trajectory of expansion, the outbreak may continue to expand into the neighboring region of Northern California, and possibly further.”
The spore-forming fungus can cause symptoms in people and animals two weeks or more after exposure. They include a cough that lasts for weeks, sharp chest pain, shortness of breath, headache, fever, nighttime sweats and weight loss.
It has also turned up in cats, dogs, an alpaca and a sheep.
Freezing can kill the fungus and climate change may be helping it spread, the researchers said.”
This is the link:
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N22129903.htm
hursday, April 22, 2010
All Obamadithered
http://www.lamecherry.blogspot.com/
“This blog is a champion of Mothers and in that this blog has stood steadfast by the lovely Patti Blagojevich as she has stood by her man, raised her cherub daughters and held her world together as Barack Hussein Obama tried to blow it deeper than a Jewish nuclear holocaust.
I do not know why Barack Hussein Obama hates Slavic people so much. He turned over eastern Europe to Russian domination, betrayed the Poles and Czechs on missile defense, did not aid the Poles when their government was assassinated, furthermore Mr. Obama went golfing instead of attending the State Funeral of the Polish Government.
This all though appears to have started with Obama’s loathing for Slavs in Illinois which was centered around Gov. Rod Blagojevich being the first not to bow to an Obama dictatorial order in handing over an Illinois Senate seat.
From that moment on, Mr. Obama has been arresting and shackling Slavic peoples around the world in the most reprehensible of ways. It is vindictive like Antiochos Epiphanes persecution of the Jews as the first anti Christ.
It does not matter that I would never vote for Rod Blagojevich as I do not vote Democrat. What matters is what is right and what is wrong, and what is being done to the Blagojevich family is completely wrong, especially when Barack Hussein Obama has done it a dozen times over.”
SapphireSunday @ 7:40 pm
Wow. That’s amazing stuff about Blago and Obama. Who’s the “labor union official?”
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SapphireSunday
Arthur A. Coia “COULD” be the labor union official. I did some digging and found this.
http://www.laborers.org/projo_CoiaResign_12-7-99.html
Redactions Revealed: The Six Secrets You Need to Know From the Obama Subpoena Request
http://www.nbcchicago.com/blogs/ward-room/The-Six-Secrets-You-Need-to-Know-From-the-Blagojevich-Filing-91848634.html#ixzz0lsUl5GUE
1. Obama may have lied about conversations with convicted fraudster Tony Rezko
Blagojevich’s lawyers allege that Rezko admitted breaking the law by contributing “a large sum of cash” to a public official. Blagojevich’s attorneys say that public official is Obama. Obama said that Rezko never relayed a request from a lobbyist to hold a fundraiser in favor of favorable legislative action. But the point may be moot: regardless of Obama talking/not talking to Rezko, Blagojevich’s attorneys say that Obama refused the request regardless.
Redacted portion: However, the defense has a good faith belief that Mr. Rezko, President Obama’s former friend, fund-raiser, and neighbor told the FBI and the United States Attorneys a different story about President Obama. In a recent in camera proceeding, the government tendered a three paragraph letter indicating that Rezko “has stated in interviews with the government that he engaged in election law violations by personally contributing a large sum of cash to the campaign of a public official who is not Rod Blagojevich. … Further, the public official denies being aware of cash contributions to his campaign by Rezko or others and denies having
conversations with Rezko related to cash contributions. … Rezko has also stated in interviews with the government that he believed he transmitted a quid pro quo offer from a lobbyist to the public official, whereby the lobbyist would hold a fundraiser for the official in exchange for favorable official action, but that the public official rejected the offer. The public official denies any such conversation. In addition, Rezko has stated to the government that he and the public official had certain conversations about gaming legislation and
administration, which the public official denies having had.
Redacted footnote: The defense has a good faith belief that this public official is Barack Obama.
2. Obama may have overtly recommended Valerie Jarret for his Senate seat
Blagojevich’s defense team basically alleges that Obama told a certain labor union official that he (Obama) would support Valerie Jarrett’s candidacy for the Senate seat. Jarrett, referred to as “Senate Candidate B”, is now a senior advisor to the president.
Redacted portion: Yet, despite President Obama stating that no representatives of his had any part of any deals, labor union president told the FBI and the United States Attorneys that he spoke to labor union official on November 3, 2008 who received a phone message from Obama that evening. After labor union official listened to the message labor union official told labor union president “I’m the one”. Labor union president took that to mean that labor union official was to be the one to deliver the message on behalf of Obama that Senate Candidate B was his pick. (Labor union president 302, February 2, 2009, p. 7).
Labor union official told the FBI and the United States Attorneys “Obama expressed his belief that [Senate Candidate B] would be a good Senator for the people of Illinois and would be a candidate who could win re-election. [Labor union official] advised Obama that [labor union official] would reach out to Governor Blagojevich and advocate for [Senate Candidate B].. . . [Labor union official] called [labor union president] and told [labor union president] that Obama was aware that [labor union official] would be reaching out to Blagojevich.” (Labor union official 302, February 3, 2009 p. 3).
3. A supporter of President Obama may have offered quid pro quo on a Jarrett senate appointment
Redacted portion: Supporter of Presidential Candidate Obama is mentioned in a phone call on November 3, 2008, having offered “fundraising” in exchange for Senate Candidate B for senator (Blagojevich Home Phone Call # 149).
4. Obama maintained a list of good Senate candidates
Redacted portion: President-elect Obama also suggested Senate Candidate A to Governor Blagojevich. John Harris told the FBI and the United States Attorneys that he spoke to President’s Chief of Staff on November 12, 2008. Harris took notes of the conversation and wrote that President’s Chief had previously worked as Blagojevich’s press secretary. Obama agreed of Staff told Harris that Senate Candidate A was acceptable to Obama as a senate pick. (Harris handwritten notes, OOG1004463) President’s Chief of Staff told the FBI that “he could not say where but somewhere it was communicated to him that” Senate Candidate A was a suggested candidate viewed as one of the four “right” candidates “by the Obama transition team.”
5. Rahm Emanuel allegedly floated Cheryl Jackson’s name for the Senate seat
Redacted portion: President’s Chief of Staff told the FBI that he had a conversation discussing the Senate seat with Obama on December 7, 2008 in Obama’s car. President’s Chief of Staff told the FBI “Obama expressed concern about Senate Candidate D being appointed as Senator.
[President’s Chief of Staff] suggested they might need an expanded list to possibly include names of African Americans that came out of the business world. [President’s Chief of Staff] thought he suggested Senate Candidate E who was the head of the Urban League and with President’s Chief of Staff’s suggestion.
6. Obama had a secret phone call with Blagojevich
Redacted portion: President-elect Obama also spoke to Governor Blagojevich on December 1, 2008 in Philadelphia. On Harris Cell Phone Call # 139, John Harris and Governor’s legal counsel discuss a conversation Blagojevich had with President-elect Obama. The government claims a conspiracy existed from October 22, 2008 continuing through December 9, 2008.6 That conversation is relevant to the defense of the government’s theory of an ongoing conspiracy. Only Rod Blagojevich and President Obama can testify to the contents of that conversation. The defense is allowed to present evidence that corroborates the defendant’s testimony.
Thursday, April 22, 2010
Arizona Filibuster
http://lamecherry.blogspot.com/2010/04/arizona-filibuster.html
“I have a secret which is exclusive to this blog which I have hinted at previously which the Found Fathers deliberately hid in the Constitution for the day when they perceived would come when the great experiment would become so corrupt by treachery that it would come to the time of the Americans in the minority of one, who would be the check and balance to save the Republic from a foreign born, foreign allied, Bowbama, the product of patrician traitors meant to enslave all of America.
Logic can tell you how these treacherous legal minds have worked in their mocking of the Birther movement and their shading the line with John McCain’s birth on a military reservation to bring about the “expired British subjection” of Obama ruling America illegally.
See it is all about covenant which is the ancient rights. Look on any law books to this day and if you simply start mowing your neighbor’s lawn, or gardening on parts of their property, or farming, grazing or planting a hedge which you maintain on an adjacent property, that the law states in 7 years that land is your land.
It is called precedent.”
CW
Send me an email and I’ll send you a cleaned out version of the PDF file.
Z.
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To prove someone is NATURAL BORN CITIZEN the documentation for BOTH of his bilogical parents is needed as well as the Original Birth Certificate for the Candidate. All these Documents have to be authenticated and I would go one step further….
I think what should be given is a signed release from candidate and both parents so that the Secretary of State can ORDER THE DOCUMENTS DIRECTLY FROM THE KEEPER OF SUCH RECORDS. This way it will come Directly from the Vital Records Dept. which can be more easily authenticated rather then getting it from the candidate which could be FORGED and hard to authenticate.
Lurker @ 7:22 pm
Just so you know Rosemont, Illinois is one of the many towns outside Chicago known there as Syndicate Cities-means Mob owned and controlled-it is very near O’Hare. Lots more Syndicate Cities-Stone Park I’d have to look at a map to refresh my memory.
I had heard, too, that Obummer’s facebook page listed his birthdate as 1958. If that is so, just who the heck is he…not likely to belong to Stanley Ann, but I have often thought Obummer was a “ringer”. And on Snopes, there was an e-mail circulating that everyone considers them such an exemplary source, but the e-mail said it was just a husband and wife operating out of their home, and bringing their own personal bias into play regarding some of their assertions.
http://www.breitbart.tv/pelosi-wall-st-doesnt-get-anything-for-filling-dem-campaign-coffers/comment-page-1/#comment-4936501
The Madame Speaker of the House Speaks
I never know what she’s talking about.
Evening, Don and Al,
Not sure at this point!
I don’t use Google; I use Dogpile and I just entered ‘Obama Age 52’ and it spit out a bunch of results.
Being a girlie, I notice facial features like laugh lines. If you ask me, the ones he has are pretty darned deep for a man of 48. When you hit your 50s, that’s when stuff like that starts creeping in.
So, it may be that Barky’s lying about his age. Are we at all surprised????
Surprised anyone??
1. Obama may have lied about conversations with convicted fraudster Tony Rezko
2. Obama may have overtly recommended Valerie Jarret for his Senate seat
3. A supporter of President Obama may have offered quid pro quo on a Jarrett senate appointment
4. Obama maintained a list of good Senate candidates
5. Rahm Emanuel allegedly floated Cheryl Jackson’s name for the Senate seat
6. Obama had a secret phone call with Blagojevich
This is so funny—and incriminating, especially when you say you haven’t spoken to Blago in a while!!
Linda in NY, that’s not true in my State about land and “precedence”. I’ve been in the real estate/legal field over 24 years so I know about real estate law here. There’s a 20 year law about “Adverse Possession” but it’s difficult to prove and you’re likely to get a pig in a poke when you acquire the land, meaning it could be liened to the maximum value. Just saying…
JJ @ 9:55 pm
For the longest time I wondered about Obama and the suicidal telemprompter- I thought it was because of his speech giving inablitites. Now I think it was to keep all the story lines going-all the choir members singing off the same page. That is falling apart quickly. They have so many lies going-Obama-Pelosi-Gibbs-etc. like plates in the air they cannot catch them all.
http://www.oilforimmigration.org/
Obama Banking Regulation Bill Does Not Go After Big Banks
Goldman’s White House connections raise eyebrowsGoldman’s White House connections raise eyebrows
Michelle // April 22, 2010 at 10:02 pm
JJ @ 9:55 pm
For the longest time I wondered about Obama and the suicidal telemprompter- I thought it was because of his speech giving inablitites. Now I think it was to keep all the story lines going-all the choir members singing off the same page. That is falling apart quickly. They have so many lies going-Obama-Pelosi-Gibbs-etc. like plates in the air they cannot catch them all.
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This is like when you find someone with facts wrong, misinformation, or out and out lying which most of us have at one time !!!
No matter what you say, no matter what facts you present, no matter how diplomatic you are—they will not say they are wrong or lying!!!!
This is the case of Congress, Obots, and all supporters, including media —they know we have them caught, and cornered, but they will go down fighting for this credent—not because he’s worth fighting for, but because their stubborn brains won’t accept defeat. They can’t admit they are wrong.
I never understood this mentality.
Citizen Don
I wish you would go insane and run for governor of California. So far there isn’t one candidate I would vote for–Poizner, Meg Whitman, Jerry Brown. I remember when Jerry’s father was governor. That was whenn Democrats were still American!
kittycat // April 22, 2010 at 8:12 pm
Airborne Fungus
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Great link, kittycat thanks.
You know, Ozonated water/olive oil kills fungus!
Also, how’s the Chemtrails on the Mainland lately, just saying! They’re known to lower the immune system, increase humidity, and of course dump Aluminum and Barium in our atmosphere and earth surface (proven fact by numerous toxicology tests)
These chemicals are toxic to humans, animals and plant life. Just another fact (Chemtrails) the government denies, yet, just look up at the sky.
They’ve tried several times to Chemtrail the Islands here, however, they don’t stay overhead for very long due to the Trade Winds, so they stopped.
JJ @ 10:53 pm
“They can’t admit they are wrong.
I never understood this mentality.”
I’m a Sagittarius-we don’t lie-mainly because we firmly believe we will get caught.
I think something must be in the air with lies-so many have been caught in recent months.
John Edwards, Tiger Woods, Jesse James to me it is so NOT worth it, then again maybe they feel differently-that or they have some deluded idea that they are never going to get caught, or just plain don’t care.
Michelle // April 22, 2010 at 11:20 pm
I’m a Sagittarius-we don’t lie-mainly because we firmly believe we will get caught.
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Hey Michelle,
I am too, not tooting any horns here, but isn’t it also that Sagittarius’ have a deep sense of justice?
Tea Party Racism?? My fellow Americans and fellow Tea Party Members.
DABIG @ 11:24 pm
yes, we do. Like our flesh and blood and we are so for the underdog-these days WE THE PEOPLE.
The Warning
Long before the meltdown, one woman tried to warn about a threat to the financial system
Excellent video, the warning started quite awhile ago.
http://video.pbs.org/video/1302794657
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