Lt Col Donald Sullivan V NC Board of Elections, Elaine Marshall, NC Secretary of State, Update, December 7, 2009, Obama eligibility, Obama Kenyan born

 Here is the latest update December 7, 2009, from Lt. Col. Donald Sullivan, plaintiff in a lawsuit against North Carolina Board of Elections, and Elaine F. Marshall, Secretary of State For North Carolina. Following the update is a copy of the lawsuit.

“Sullivan v. Secretary of State for North Carolina, 08CVS1076
RE:  Obama Eligibility
 
12-4-09:  Hearing on Plaintiff’s motion to amend, alter or vacate Judge Cobb’s order of October 10, 2008, dismissing subject lawsuit with prejudice.
 
Judge Cobb called the case for hearing at 11:00 AM.  Present were myself and Brandon Truman, Special Deputy Attorney General, for the Defendant.  I made my statement in support of my motion to delete the words “with prejudice” from the order dismissing the case.  I wanted this done because my filing of the second complaint against Obama’s eligibility included as defendants both the secretary of state and the board of elections.  The “with prejudice” made any future complaint against the secretary of state filed by me, including mine, moot “res judicata”. 
 
I argued that the case had been dismissed, not on its merits, but on procedural arguments from the State.  I argued that the order had been drafted by the State’s attorney at the request of the judge, and that the term “with prejudice” had not been the subject of any discussion during the hearing on the complaint.  Further, the Rule governing dismissals makes it clear that dismissals for procedure in first complaints typically are considered to be without prejudice unless otherwise noted.  Such a dismissal on a second complaint in the same matter is typically “with prejudice”.  This was my first case in the series.  I had no way of knowing whether or not the attorney put those words into the order or if the judge had done that himself; since I was not given the privilege of reviewing the proposed order prior to its being given to the judge.  I also made a “point of order” on the court’s not being properly set, since, upon information and belief, the State’s attorney did not have a proper oath of office.  I did this without argument, just for the record.
 
The State’s attorney responded that he did not recollect adding that language to his order, but he might have.  He just couldn’t be sure.  He argued that the case was not only dismissed on procedural errors, but also due to the fact that the Secretary of State has no statutory duty to do that which I requested the court to order her to do.  He also introduced the dismissal order from my second Obama case showing its mootness since Obama had already been inaugurated.  I objected to that order as being irrelevant to the instant case, but the judge allowed it. 
 
I responded that I agreed there was no statutory duty of the Secretary to do as I requested, but that there was a higher, constitutional authority to do so. 
 
Judge Cobb denied the motion, telling me in no uncertain terms that it was he who put the words “with prejudice” into the order.  I had told the State’s attorney I would not appeal this ruling prior to the hearing.  I will put all my effort into Obama II.  The denial in this case means the second case will lose the Secretary of State as a defendant, leaving only the Board of Elections to carry the ball.  Again, the only argument in that case is the constitutional duty also.  I have a hearing being scheduled for later this month or early in January to hear a similar motion to amend, alter or vacate the dismissal order from last March, 2009.  It will be heard by Judge Osmond Smith III out of Caswell County.”

STATE OF NORTH CAROLINA IN THE GENERAL COURT OF JUSTICE
SUPERIOR COURT DIVISION
COUNTY OF WAKE File # 08CV21393
Lt. Col. Donald Sullivan, )

Plaintiff ) NOTICE AND DEMAND ) TO AMEND FINAL

v. ) JUDGMENT ORDER

) (CLASS ACTION)

North Carolina Board of Elections, and )

Elaine F. Marshall, Secretary of State )

For North Carolina, )

Defendants )

________________________________________________________________________

 
NOTICE AND DEMAND
 
 

 

Now come I, Lt. Colonel Donald Sullivan, Plaintiff, on behalf of myself and all others similarly situated, pursuant to Rule 59(a)(7), (8) and (e) and Rule 60 (b)(2), et seq., to notice and demand this court vacate, amend or alter its final order “signed” March 16, 2009, but dated October 2, 2009, and received by me on October 6, 2009, dismissing this action. This demand is based upon the newly discovered evidence infra, and upon the sworn duty of this court to “support and maintain the Constitution and laws of the United States” (Art. VI, Section 7, NC Const.).

STATEMENT OF THE CASE
 
 
 

 

On November 7, 2008, and on behalf of all those similarly situated, I filed a class action complaint in this instant matter with the Pender County Clerk of Court demanding injunctive relief in the matter of the citizenship of Barack Hussein Obama, Jr., his eligibility to have been a candidate on the North Carolina ballot for the office of President of the United States of America, and his eligibility to hold the office of President of the United States of America. Defendants moved for a change of venue to Wake County; Motion was granted December 1, 2008. I filed in this action a Notice and Demand for a TRO on November 26, 2008, to prevent the NC Board of Elections from certifying the vote for the offices of President and Vice-President of the United States until the defendants had certified the eligibility of Barack Hussein Obama to hold the office of President of the United States under Article II, Section 1. The Honorable R. Allen Baddour, Jr., presiding Superior Court Judge, denied said motion for TRO on December 15, 2008. On December 19, 2008, Defendants filed a Motion to Dismiss my complaint in its entirety pursuant to Rule 12(b)(1) for lack of subject matter jurisdiction due to mootness, res judicata, and lack of standing; and pursuant to Rule 12(b)(6) for failure to state a claim upon which relief could be granted. I filed by mail a Motion to Amend my Notice and Demand for Injunctive Relief on December 19, 2008, seeking to add as defendants the Governor and the General Assembly, delete Para. 8.7, and delete the attachment of the claims for relief to the timing of the inauguration of the President, since the unreasonable and calculated court delays in this matter had rendered that element moot (A demand for injunctive relief being an extraordinary remedy which is normally heard immediately rather than being handled routinely as in the instant matter). On January 19, 2009, I filed a Notice and Demand for Class Certification seeking to represent all voters of North Carolina. Hearing was held on March 16, 2009, on the defendantÕs Motion to Dismiss and my Motion to Amend. On September 16, 2009, the attorney for the defendant e-mailed for my review a copy of the proposed order dismissing my case and denying my Demand. On September 21, 2009, I submitted my Objections to the Proposed Order by return e-mail. The subject order dismissing this action was issued by the Honorable W. Osmond Smith, Jr., on October 2, 2009, and dated March 16, 2009, for lack of subject matter jurisdiction and failure to state a claim upon which relief could be granted. The final order contained no changes from that originally proposed.

PRESENTATION OF NEW EVIDENCE
 
 
 

 

The following is a statement of newly discovered evidence which was not available to me prior to the hearing on the defendants’ Motion to Dismiss and which was unknown and unavailable to me at that time:

1. A syndicated report by the Associated Press, published Sunday, June 27, 2004, by the Kenyan Standard Times and available in their electronic edition for that date at http://thepostnemail.wordpress.com/2009/10/14/ap-declares-obama-kenyan-born/ . The article, though well concealed by Google, may also be found posted at http://web.archive.org/web/20040627142700/eastandard.net/headlines/news26060403.htm  The AP reporter stated the following:

“Kenyan-born US Senate hopeful, Barrack Obama, appeared set to take over the Illinois Senate seat…” (Emphasis added).

One would expect that an AP reporter is too professional to submit a story which was not based on confirmed sources (ostensibly the Obama campaign in this case), the inference seems inescapable: Obama himself was putting out in 2004 that he was born in Kenya. This article was not refuted by the Obama camp. Further, during that same campaign in 2004, Mr. Obama, for the record and in response to Mr. Alan Keyes’ statement that Obama was not a Ònatural born citizenÓ, stated in quick retort, “So what? I am running for Illinois Senator, not the presidency”.

2. On September 4, 2009, an Affidavit was filed as evidence in a federal case with the United States District Court in Santa Ana, California, by Mr. Lucas Smith. In this affidavit, he certified the legitimacy of a certified copy of a Kenyan birth certificate for Barack Hussein Obama, Jr., which he had personally obtained from Kenyan records. A copy of this birth certificate was filed concurrently with the affidavit, including a baby footprint, for the man who is currently referred to as President Barack Hussein Obama. The document is a legal affidavit that declares Lucas Smith to be of sound mind and judgment. Lucas Smith could go to jail if he lied on this affidavit.

3. On November 24, 2008, the following excerpts from an article by Chelsea Schilling appeared in the World Net Daily:

“A radio interview with Kenyan Ambassador Peter N.R.O. Ogego has been widely publicized since the ambassador called President-elect Barack Obama’s Kenyan birthplace a ‘well-known’ attraction – but the embassy is now telling WND the hosts misunderstood his comments.

“On Nov. 6, only two days after the election, Detroit radio talk-show hosts Mike Clark, Trudi Daniels and Marc Fellhauer on WRIF’s ‘Mike In The Morning’ called the Embassy of Kenya in Washington, D.C., to speak with Ambassador Ogego.

“The radio hosts were surprised when their light-hearted interview with Ogego reignited suspicions that Obama may have been born in Kenya.

“An assistant to the ambassador, referring to herself only as ‘Trudy,’ confirmed today that Ogego had indeed participated in the radio interview. But she said the show made leading statements and took the following comments out of context:

‘Clark: “We want to congratulate you on Barack Obama, our new president, and you must be very proud.”
‘Ogego: “We are. We are. We are also proud of the U.S. for having made history as well.”
‘Fellhauer: “One more quick question, President-elect Obama’s birthplace over in Kenya, is that going to be a national spot to go visit, where he was born?”
‘Ogego: “It’s already an attraction. His paternal grandmother is still alive.”

‘Fellhauer: “His birthplace, they’ll put up a marker there?”

‘Ogego: “It would depend on the government. It’s already well known.'”

…”‘If you listen to the call in its entirety, you will find it was very obvious we were all talking about President-elect Barack Obama and not his father,’ Clark said.”

4. Here’s what it says at Obama’s web portal, Fight The Smears:

“When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United KingdomÕs dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.’s children.”
(Emphasis and italics added.)Obama is telling us himself that his status was “governed” by a foreign jurisdiction.  This is no theory.  This is a fact. Like it or not, rich or poor, great or strong, Democrat or Republican, Obama was born under the jurisdiction of Great Britain via Kenya.  There is nothing conspiratorial about saying that.  Obama has it posted on his own web site. So, even if we accept that Mr Obama was born in Hawaii of a black Kenyan father and a 17-year-old white American mother, his citizenship is and constitutional eligibility for the presidency is still in question, since he is either a Brtish or Kenyan by birth, not an American. His American citizenship has never been confirmed or reinstated.
 
 

 

5. A letter dated 2 Februrary, 2009, from Michael Angelus to US Senator Maria Cantwell (D., VA) submitted four attachments including the following:

A. The actual text of the THIRD CONGRESS in 1795;

B. The actual text of the FIRST CONGRESS in 1790;

C. The actual text of the Constitution from the Continental Congress and the Constitutional Convention, 1774-1789;

D. The actual text in a January 26, 2009 letter issued by United States Senator, Mark R. Warner.

Mr. Angelus also went on to include, Òand we also witness the apparent denial in the current United States Congress to address the phrase “natural born citizen.”

The purpose of the letter is to define what the Congress has concluded “natural born citizenship” to mean. Mr. Obama fails each of these tests for being natural born as required by Article 2, Section 1.

6. Upon information and belief, as one of his first acts as the newly installed “President”, Mr. Obama issued an executive order which sealed his personal papers, documents, records, transcripts, etc. from public scrutiny.

CONCLUSION
Therefore, because of the sworn duty of this court “to support and maintain the Constitution and laws of the United States”, and pursuant to the provisions of Rule 59 and Rule 60, supra, this court has the subject matter jurisdiction and the authority to grant the relief I am requesting based upon the new evidence herein provided, to vacate or alter the order of the court dismissing my complaint for injunctive relief and force the State of North Carolina, in the form of its elected and appointed officials, to properly and adequately protect the combined citizens of this State from an unconstitutionally elected chief executive of the United States; or, in the alternative, to confirm that Mr. Barack Hussein Obama, Jr., is indeed eligible to hold that office. Each of these elected and appointed officials, including this Honorable Court, has taken a solemn oath to do no less.
 
 

 

Any act repugnant to the Constitution is void ab initio. It carries no authority and creates no law. We learn this the first week of law school. Ignorance of the law, therefore, does not apply in this matter. I demand this court do its duty to the People, to this country and to themselves and confirm the constitutionality of the Obama “Presidency”. We have seen already the unintended consequences of enthroning an apparent imposter. There will be more unless we all do our duty. Honor requires no less.

Respectfully submitted this the Twenty-Ninth Day of October, 2009.

____________________________________ Donald Sullivan, Plaintiff, sui juris Lt. Col., USAFR(R) PO Box 3061 Wilmington, NC 28406 910-617-2559

 
 
 
 

 

CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE
I do certify I have this Tewenty-Ninth Day of October, 2009, served a copy of the foregoing “Notice and Demand Amend Final Judgment Order” by placing a copy of the same in the United States Mails, certified with return receipt requested, or hand-delivered, and addressed as follows:
For Defendant Board of Elections:
State of North Carolina Department of Justice

ATTN: Susan K. Nichols, Special Attorney General

PO Box 629

Raleigh, NC 27602-0629

For Defendant Elaine F. Marshall, Secretary of State:

Brandon L. Truman

Assistant Attorney General

PO Box 629

Raleigh, NC 27626-0629

A copy is also being filed with the Clerk of Court for Wake County.

BY: ________________________________

Donald Sullivan, Lt Col, USAFR (Ret)

Plaintiff, Sui JurisPO Box 3061

Wilmington, NC 28406

  

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157 responses to “Lt Col Donald Sullivan V NC Board of Elections, Elaine Marshall, NC Secretary of State, Update, December 7, 2009, Obama eligibility, Obama Kenyan born

  1. truthbetold11

    it like the never ending saga, lies upon lies for what to protect a liar!

  2. When is ANY court going to try a case on the merits instead of procedures???

  3. I think what Obama is doing, not only tinkering around with but trying to change so many fundamental areas of our society, such as Cap and Trade and Health Care for starters, is like some mindless person tinkering around in their computer’s registry without really knowing what they’re doing. One little slip up, and the computer is history. I believe Obama is in a similar situation. If he pushes this system too far, and tries to tinker with parts and go where we’ve never gone before, well, I believe that there will be a cascading effect of disaster. It may take years, maybe decades to undo the damage. This is the scariest time I’ve ever lived it. We’ve got to move toward some time of sanity on this. Obama and the Dems are plain crazy and dangerous to boot.

  4. History is repeating itself. Here is a good read which applies to what is happening today in America:

    Declaration of the Causes
    and Necessity of taking up Arms
    July 6, 1775

    http://www.historyplace.com/unitedstates/revolution/causes.htm

  5. Jacqlyn Smith

    Beck was awesome today….very informative about how the progressives are destroying the country…..sad but true!!!!

  6. GIANNI……………………………………….
    I am thankful that you have come to this conclusion. You have now joined a very large, and exponentially growing number of patriots who all believe that the US as we have known it for all of our lives is now being forcibly being taken down a road that over 150,000,000.00 people clearly do not want to go. While there are people who will NEVER change their beliefs, whether or not the presidency is legal or not these PUPPETS are NOT really the sort of people who constituted the framers of our Constitution. These people often invade the Citizen Wells blog and spew their dirty sick minded adjectives, and slimey verbs to such anextent that WELLS is forced to electronically block them from ever posting on the blog again. Such people are mental degenerates. Gianni I salute you.

  7. CW, I copied this page and pasted on my blog at wordpress. I hope you don’t mind too much. I did give you credit.

  8. Does anyone know what happened today with Commander Fitzpatrick in TN? I can’t find any information.
    Thanks!

  9. From last tread
    JJ // December 7, 2009 at 3:22 pm

    Don // December 7, 2009 at 2:56 pm

    Maybe I am just old and a little undereducated, but something I do not understand is, with the economy the way it is, WHY is congress doing everything they can to cause us (the citizens) to have less to live on or with? Why can’t most of this crap wait until the economy improves and then we “might” be able to support some of it.
    *************
    I believe it’s part of the Communist plan to destroy America……the very ones planning this are the ones with the income to have other places to run to when the SHTF……just thinking this..or why would they poop in their backyards??
    —————-
    Ahhh….. the very ones planning don’t have to run at all. When it becomes communist, there will be 2 classes in the country – the Government in POWER and in CONTROL and the Peasants (the people) in LABOR and in CONTRIBUTE. The Government will be wining and dinning and living it up just like they are doing in the White House now. And, the Peasants will be ORDERED to work their a**es off to contribute to the ONES’ luxurious life style.

  10. CBS News is on-I now listen to the news as to what is NOT reported.
    Copenhagen is having a meeting-not one word about Clima-gate.
    Iran is reporting riots v/s their dictator. Our press is reporting that. Do you think their press could return the favor and report re: our dictator-Obama?
    http://www.netnative.com/news/index2.html
    Photos: Iran Students Stage Nationwide Protests – Iranian students turned the Student Day (Azar 16 — December 7) into another show of force by the opposition which continues its protests following the June disputed presidential elections. The university students held nationwide protests across Iran chanting slogans against the regime and for the opposition leaders. Even with all the threats and security clampdowns, including many arrests leading to Monday, the students came out stronger than ever 12/7/09

  11. As long as Barry Sotoero remains in office, I don’t believe there is a single judge with the strength of character to hear the case on merit and demand Barry produce his documents. When all this first came forward with Phil Berg’s case August 21, 2008, I was so naive. I whole heartedly believed in the American jucicial system–especially the holiest of holy–the Supreme Court. I am now convinced they are all corrupt.

    If and when Barry is no longer in office–providing he doesn’t simply declare a dictatorhip and plant himself permanently in the WH(which I fear this is where they are heading), then we might find an honest judge willing to hear the case. Yes, even after he leaves office–if the issue of his eligibility based upon citizenship is not resolved–it is imperative we continue pursuing it. Some time between now and the future,, Barry Sotoero must be held accountable and produce his documents.

    All the dismissed law suits, the pending ones, and the future ones are not in vain. These law suits challenging Barry Sotoero’s credentials–on any level are among the most necessary patriotic processes going in America today. They are documented public records for all of history to know. These documents are recorded witnesses to America’s suspician and efforts to demand the president of the United States to stand up or step down. They are precious documents filled with proof regarding the lack of integrity of our current judicial system. They are part of our history that will tell the other side of the story.

    As it stands now–America–the America we used to know when we exclaimed–“This is America. It can’t happen here!” has been stolen from us right before our knowing eyes. We still do not have a grasp upon the “new America.” You can be certain it is not one that will make Barry Sotoero legally accountable for his usurpation.

  12. I find it incredibly difficult to believe that ALL our judges are “bad”. It would even be hard to imagine that half of them are bad. In which cas – just by the law of averages – one of them should have taken on one of these cases by now.

    Or even where jurisdiction or standing were real issues, they could give better assistance to moving up the chain. SIGH.

  13. Hey – y’all seen this one?

    Why did we have to have a pimp/communist/muslem for our first AA president? Don’t the blacks worry that skeptical white people (i.e. “the establishment”) will think this is the best they can do?

    AND – This guy does all this WITHOUT A TELEPROMPTER ! ! !

    God Bless America (or at least what America USED to be).

    http://americangrandjury.org/forum/topic.php?id=1175

  14. Today I heard lovely Christmas carols in
    a waiting room—I kept thinking, wow, I’m surprised that the carols haven’t been banned
    here in this public setting.

    Is this what our world has come to?
    Frightening!

  15. usapatriots-shoutblogspot.com
    “especially the holiest of holy–the Supreme Court. I am now convinced they are all corrupt.”
    I also thought our Constitution in all its implications was sacred. We elected people that we entrusted with our Constitution for all our citizens.
    Now my questions are: In the media, who can we trust? Is all news managed?, adjusted?, twisted, manipulated?, corrupted?
    Is there anyone in government who took an oath to defend the Constitution capable of respecting their oath?
    When those who were bought/sold out right purchased, did they forsake their country cheaply or did they hold out for big bucks?
    Obama may have not done much, which is all he capable of doing, but if his intention was to sew seeds of doubt in every aspect of our government, he has succeed far more than anyone can imagine.

  16. The sad truth:

    Not one of our Congressman, Senators, Judges, are going to push Obama’s eligibility issue, until-

    The country is bankrupt, unemployment is 58%
    Senior citizens are dying by the thousands everyday, and the 100 million of us that know he’s not eligible show up to enforce the law ourselves….with force if necessary.

    Then finally, when the country is a third world nation, ate up with H1N1, Bubonic Plague, etc. they will listen.

    When it’s too late, they will finally listen.

  17. Sorry if already posted. Just received in an email:

    OBAMAS WOULD LIKE TO NEUTER CHRISTMAS

    In yesterday’s New York Times, there was an article about White House social secretary Desirée Rogers. In it, reporter Sheryl Gay Stolberg wrote: “When former social secretaries gave a luncheon to welcome Ms. Rogers earlier this year, one participant said, she surprised them by suggesting the Obamas were planning a ‘non-religious Christmas….’”

    This same participant said that “the Obamas did not intend to put the manger scene on display” (this was confirmed by the White House). Indeed, as Stolberg wrote, “there had been internal discussions about making Christmas more inclusive and whether to display the crèche.”

    Catholic League president Bill Donohue addressed this issue today:

    Unlike almost all Americans—including atheists—the Obamas do not give their children Christmas gifts. We know this because Barack bragged about this last year to People magazine. So it should come as no big surprise that he and his wife would like to neuter Christmas in the White House. That’s their natural step—to ban the public display of Christian symbols. Have any doubts? Last April, Georgetown University was ordered to put a drape over the name of Jesus as a condition of the president speaking there.

    If the Obamas want to deprive their children of celebrating Christmas, that is their business. It is the business of the public to hold them accountable for the way they celebrate Christmas in the White House. We know one thing for sure: no other administration ever entertained internal discussions on whether to display a nativity scene in the White House.

    *********************************************
    This is an outrage!

  18. Jacqlyn Smith

    ATTENTION>>>>>>>Please everyone go to the grassfire website and sign the petition….pass this far and wide….ASAP!!!!

    From the Desk of:
    Steve Elliott, Grassfire Nation

    The response to my call to action has been one of the most
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    Details below. –Steve

    ATTENTION EVERYONE!!!!!!!

    Desperate for votes and running low on time, Senate Majority Leader
    Harry Reid tossed his copy of Dale Carnegie’s “How to Win Friends
    and Influence People” aside when comparing opponents of ObamaCare
    to supporters of slavery!

    “When this country belatedly recognized the wrongs of
    slavery, there were those who dug in their heels and
    said ‘slow down, it’s too early, things aren’t bad
    enough.'”

    He continued, “When this body was on the verge of
    guaranteeing equal rights to everyone regardless of
    the color o their skin, some senators resorted to the
    same filibuster threats that we hear today.”

    Fox News reported that aside from finding Reid’s remarks extremely
    offensive, many in the Senate believe Reid is beginning to “crack”
    under the ever-increasing pressure of the ObamaCare debate…
    This is music to my ears!

    As our countdown clock winds down to our Thursday morning petition
    delivery–when EVERY senator will receive our petitions urging
    opposition to ObamaCare, I fully expect the pressure Harry Reid
    is feeling to reach a near boiling point…

    especially considering that we have already SHATTERED our petition
    delivery goal of 750,000!

    I must admit there was a moment of celebration in our Grassfire
    offices when we learned today that 779,489 citizens are standing
    with us in opposition of ObamaCare–with hundreds more still
    rushing to sign.

    I’m absolutely humbled by your amazing efforts to rally and
    mobilize citizens to take action. In fact, since November 30–
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    our cause!

    But one question remains…

    Can we rally an additional 70,000 citizens by midnight Wednesday
    pushing our total to 850,000?

    Numbers that significant could cause Harry Reid to jump on his
    mule and head back to the Nevada desert!

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    drive a stake into the heart of this ill-conceived ObamaCare
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    Grassfire Nation

  19. Heard the same news from FOX on the WH
    down-playing Christmas—no nativity scene.
    Now I’m not sure if they will reverse that decision under pressure.
    +++++++++++
    On not giving gifts on Christmas—-it can’t be
    about spending the money—-Michelle Obama
    is said to be spending MORE MONEY than
    any other First Lady since Jackie Kennedy.
    Isn’t this the same MO who told Americans
    that they shouldn’t expect much, we have
    to “sacrifice”? M.O., methinks you are
    a big HYPOCRITE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  20. OT: on healthcare increase…

    From the other thread’s discussion…
    Medical Mutual has been routinely increasing it’s annual premiums each year to its subscribers. I can’t imagine on top of this increase another increase in the range of
    49%!!!!!!!!!!!! We will have to decide
    between health insurance or FOOD!

  21. Maddie // December 7, 2009 at 7:39 pm
    Maddie – I think they have reversed the decision under pressure.
    The account was reported in the Fashion and Style section of The New York Times. The White House confirmed to the Times that there had been internal discussions about making Christmas more inclusive – but in the end – tradition won out – and the Nativity scene is once again in its traditional East Room spot.

    http://www.audacityofhypocrisy.com/2009/12/07/obama-wanted-non-religious-christmas-so-obama-a-christian-you-be-the-judge/

  22. Jacqlyn Smith

    Per the commenters at the AGJ….nothing heard about Fitzpatrick today…..I think everyone is getting antsy here……read the comments below
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    # vadaryl Says:
    December 7th, 2009 at 7:30 pm

    Speedy asked the same question I did early this afternoon about Lt Cmdr Fitzpatrick but my comment went into moderation. It’s hard enough to get information from the press about anything on this issue, but if our own group won’t respond to our questions too it’s makes it worse. So if you guys have any update please post it as soon as possible or tell us where to go to get the latest information on what’s going on. We need this information to get out there so people know what’s going on. If you google Lt Cmdr Fitzpatrick it links to last weeks stories nothing new today.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~ REPLY BY AGJ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    You should cut us some slack here. We post everything we hear about Fitzpatrick.. we conduct BlogTalk shows about Fitzpatrick.. we don’t hide anything that we know about Fitzpatrick.. if it isn’t on Fitzpatrick’s website then we don’t know much more. The Court in TN has NOT decided on the fate of Fitzpatrick.. that is all we know.

  23. @Jacqlyn Smith,
    Thank you so much dear heart. I will keep checking the Jaghunters blog; I forgot that was Fitzpatrick’s site. I’ll keep checking AGJ too. If I find out anything at all, I’ll let everyone know asap. PROMISE!!

  24. From a few threads back. Cheapest way to get postcards is pre-stamped, from the post office. Order online in 10 or 100, or from your local PO. Many computer printers can be adjusted to print on individual postcards. Print your message on the back & address the front to your “favorite” politician.

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  25. jbjd-Carlyle@7:04 this is the district I vote in. jbjd- I sent him your three card monte dissertation, with other sections to show him what Pelosi, Bauer, DNC did, how they did it , how you caught them etc.I also put in your web-site information so that you can get credit for your hard work for a change. I copied/pasted I was too afraid to paraphrase and mess up your work-so be prepared in case you hear from him, I also sent your info and web-site to Florida AG. Second time I sent the three card monte.
    He said he took an oath so we will see what he does with it.

  26. Old Salt & Val,
    why does Palin need to be a Sen. before running for Pres? Obama was a Sen. first & look where that got us. Being a Sen. won’t change the quality of her character. At this point in our history would you rather have an experienced politician or a person of integrity????

  27. http://hillbuzz.org/
    Remember that, always, because we do.
    But, it occurred to us how marvelously the Left’s online tricks can be used against them — but with a twist.
    Currently, we are seeing Independents abandoning Democrats in droves on a national level. They are doing this because Dr. Utopia promised to be a centrist Democrat in the campaign (even though none of us believed him) but ran to the far Left the day after the election. Independents left the Clintons in 1992 during their first term as well, because they felt the Clinton adminstration was too far to the Left (and boy, in comparison to what’s going on today, doesn’t that make people shudder).
    What needs to happen is this:
    (1) We need to concern troll the concern trolls; go on their sites, pretend to agree with everything Dr. Utopia stood for in the campaign, and just put it out there how disappointed we are that he’s not being Liberal enough. Propel the meme that “this is not what we were promised!”
    (2) Lunatic fringe groups like Code Pink and Moveon.org need to be revved up — make them go after Democrats they don’t think are Liberal enough…get them to force every bad Democrat out there into being MORE Liberal than they are now. Have these nuts drive people like Barney Frank, Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, Pat Murphy, John Murtha, and other BONKERS.
    (3) Do everything possible to encourage the far Left to throw all their chips in, right here right now. Make the biggest push to the Left this country has ever seen…and make sure Independents see what is going on.
    If Independents are driven away by too much Liberalism, and if we can stoke the Left into being as Liberal as possible, then 2010 will be an epic disaster for Democrats — who, after the way they behaved in 2008 and are behaving now, deserve to lose big.
    Instead of concern trolling to dampen their spirits, which is what they did to Hillary and McCain supporters last year, we should troll to pump up their most Liberal firebrands…so those nuts can kamikaze the entire DNC with their zealotry.
    Add your thoughts below to HOW we can begin doing this, so we can develop Action Items and get to work.

  28. c.n.d.e. ville II

    “many in the Senate believe Reid is beginning to “crack”
    under the ever-increasing pressure of the ObamaCare debate…”
    ***********
    Crack, Reid, CRACK!!! Whoo Hoo! Feel the PEOPLE PRESSURE!! Feel the HEAT from tens of millions of ENRAGED citizens.

    Out, Obama, OUT!! Time for you to get thee hence and be gone!! Feel the righteous INDIGNATION of our nation.

    Wow! I get a happiness surge when I come to this site!!

    “Truly, thou dost set them in slippery places. Thou dost make them fall to ruin.” Psalm 73:18

    “Let their way be dark and slippery, with the angel of the Lord pursuing them!

    For without cause they hid their net for (us); without cause they dug a pit for (our) lives.

    Let ruin come upon them unawares! And let the net which they hid ensnare them; let them fall therein to ruin!

    Then my soul shall rejoice in the Lord, exulting in his deliverance.

    All my bones shall say, ‘O Lord, who is like thee, thou who delivers the weak from the one who is too strong for them, the weak and needy from him who despoils them?'” from Psalm 35

  29. Reid may be cracking, but I think all of congress or on crack. They can’t be as stupid as they seem.

  30. Should be are instead of or. sorry

  31. Cyber—
    Thanks for the confirmation that the nativity
    scene as traditionally displaced in the White House will still be there.

    Appreciate your posting.

  32. Divvy Kidd talked to Leo this morning, I think it was. She has a good writeup on this:

    http://www.devvy.com/new_site/chrysler_120709.html

  33. On “Navy Seals”—–

    Why on earth would this country take the
    word of terrorists over our own Navy Seals
    as to how this terrorist pig got a minor punch?

    Our Seals need to be found “innocent”
    immediately and released from this nightmare.

    According to what was just reported on Hannity, the Al Kaida (sp?) manual tells their members
    to “claim” they were injured by their
    captives. These terrorist liars—–and they have
    any credibility? I think NOT!

  34. Fernley Girl, How much snow did you get there?

  35. Maddie, you are welcome and appreciate yours too!

  36. Patriot Dreamer

    Does anyone know if Donofrio is pursuing the UIPA case against Hawaii? Or has he dropped it?

  37. One of the commentators on hillbuzz. Sometimes silence speaks louder than words.
    http://hillbuzz.org/
    Andy Says:
    December 7, 2009 at 11:38 am
    Only think I noticed is my two ‘liberal’ kids are just not talking much anymore about ‘him’. He’s at least off their radar, not like in 2008 when everything was about ‘him’. No nay-saying yet, just silence.

  38. Speedy—
    Why does an error message pop up
    for your posted link?

  39. Patriot Dreamer

    Glenn Beck’s show this afternoon was based on this:

    “Was Democrats’ Health Care Strategy Written in Federal Prison?”

    http://biggovernment.com/2009/12/07/was-democrats-health-care-strategy-written-in-federal-prison/

  40. Patriot Dreamer, I’ll bet John Charlton at Post&Email would know about the UIPA case.

  41. This world just gets sicker and sicker. Look at WND, Swine-Flu Bribe Fever…

    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=118262

    “World Health Organization scientists are suspected of accepting secret bribes from vaccine manufacturers to influence the U.N. organization’s H1N1 pandemic declaration, according to Danish and Swedish newspapers.

    Meanwhile, pharmaceutical profits from swine-flu related drugs have soared – with earnings between $10 billion and $15 billion in 2009, investment bank
    JP Morgan estimates. …”

  42. Patriot Dreamer

    bob strauss, thanks!

  43. Patriot Dreamer

    quote from Robert Creamer’s (husband of U.S. Representative Jan Schakowsky (D., Ill.) book written while in federal prison: “To win we must not just generate understanding, but emotion—fear, revulsion, anger, disgust.”

  44. Patriot Dreamer

    To watch today’s Glenn Beck show on flash player or YouTube:

    http://www.therightscoop.com/watch-the-glenn-beck-show-december-7-2009/

  45. Patriot Dreamer

    “Video: Chris Matthews aghast that Palin doesn’t write her own material”

    http://hotair.com/archives/2009/12/07/video-chris-matthews-aghast-that-palin-doesnt-write-her-own-material/comment-page-1/#comments
    ******************************************
    I guess Matthews missed the memo that Bill Ayers ghostwrote BO’s book “Dreams from my Father”.

  46. c.n.d.e. ville II

    I agree, Maddie.

    The SEALS facing charges??? That is just plain WRONG!! I can’t believe the military is putting those brave souls through this farce.

    The person(s) bringing the charges are the ones who are acting dishonorably, not the SEALS who protected us from that notorious terrorist.

  47. Patriot Dreamer

    “Latest Health Care Wolf In Sheep’s Clothing Inside A Trojan Horse”

    http://legalinsurrection.blogspot.com/2009/12/latest-health-care-wolf-in-sheeps.html

  48. Patriot Dreamer

    Liberal Group Puts Bounty on Head of Chamber of Commerce CEO

    Chamber of Commerce CEO Tom Donohue is a wanted man — at least according to the liberal activist group that’s put a de facto bounty on his head.

    Chamber of Commerce CEO Tom Donohue is a wanted man — at least according to the liberal activist group that’s put a de facto bounty on his head.

    A network of liberal groups known as Velvet Revolution started an ad campaign offering $200,000 for information leading to the arrest and conviction of the man whose trade organization has become a thorn in the side of the Obama administration and congressional Democrats.

    for the rest:
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/12/07/liberal-group-offers-reward-information-chamber-boss/

  49. Hi Bob S,
    I went out and measured, had 9 inches! Are you east or west of me, and more or less snow??

  50. Fernley Girl, We had about 10 in. I live just SE of Reno airport. Temps near 0 in the morning for Tuesday and Wednesday. Burrrrrr

  51. This just came into my e-mail. Oh I would be so happy to be wrong. I hope this is true. I can hardly believe after Carter’s last decision!

    Federal Judge Carter sets Trial Date for Obama’s Eligibility!

    The expedited trial has been set for Jan. 26, 2010!

    Many concerned veterans and citizens attended
    the hearing in Federal Court in Santa Ana in the lawsuit against Barack Obama to determine his eligibility to be President and Commander in
    Chief. About 150 people showed up, almost all in support of the lawsuit to demand that Obama release his birth certificate and other records that he has hidden from the American people.

    Judge David Carter refused to hear Obama’s
    request for dismissal. He indicated there was almost no chance that this case would be dismissed. Obama is arguing this lawsuit was filed in the wrong court if you can believe that. Obama would prefer a “kangaroo court” instead of a Federal court! Assuming Judge Carter
    denies Obama’s motion for dismissal, he will likely then order expedited discovery which will force Obama to release his birth certificate in a
    timely manner (if he has one).

    The judge, WHO IS A FORMER U.S. MARINE, repeated several times that this is A VERY SERIOUS CASE which must be resolved
    quickly so that the troops know that their Commander in Chief is eligible to hold that position and issue lawful orders to our military
    in this time of war. He basically said OBAMA MUST PROVE HIS ELIGIBILITY to the court! He said Americans deserve to know the truth about their President!

    The two U.S. Attorneys representing Barack Obama tried everything they could to sway the judge that this case was frivolous, but Carter would have none of it and cut them off several
    times. Obama’s attorneys left the courtroom after about the 90 minute hearing looking defeated and nervous.

    Great day in America for the U.S. Constitution! The truth about Barack Obama’s eligibility will be known fairly soon – Judge Carter practically guaranteed it!

    Video from the press conference after the hearing coming soon. Congratulations to plaintiffs attorney Dr. Orly Taitz! She did a
    great job and won some huge victories. She was fearless!

    This needs to be forwarded to everyone you know….

  52. Patriot Dreamer

    Flight 297 Passenger: Incident Bigger Than AirTran Claims

    http://www.wsbtv.com/news/21890438/detail.html

    raw video:
    http://www.wsbtv.com/video/21890485/index.html

  53. USA, that sounds like the original story that was written prior to Carters dismissal.

  54. Patriot Dreamer, Just read at TRSOL that Leo has put his UIPA work on hold, and will work on this latest action with the car dealers.

  55. Patriot Dreamer Sarah never pretended she wrote this book all by herself, neither did Iacocca-they both credited the other authors with-with….NOT like some people with The Audacity Syndrome.
    Going Rogue: An American Life ( ISBN 0061939897 ) is the New York Times #1 best seller by former American Vice Presidential candidate Sarah Palin, co-written by Lynn Vincent of San Diego
    He is the author (or co-author) of several books, including Iacocca: An Autobiography (with William Novak), and Where have all the Leaders Gone?

  56. cyber // December 7, 2009 at 6:47 pm

    From last tread
    JJ // December 7, 2009 at 3:22 pm

    Don // December 7, 2009 at 2:56 pm

    Maybe I am just old and a little undereducated, but something I do not understand is, with the economy the way it is, WHY is congress doing everything they can to cause us (the citizens) to have less to live on or with? Why can’t most of this crap wait until the economy improves and then we “might” be able to support some of it.
    *************
    I believe it’s part of the Communist plan to destroy America……the very ones planning this are the ones with the income to have other places to run to when the SHTF……just thinking this..or why would they poop in their backyards??
    —————-
    Ahhh….. the very ones planning don’t have to run at all. When it becomes communist, there will be 2 classes in the country – the Government in POWER and in CONTROL and the Peasants (the people) in LABOR and in CONTRIBUTE. The Government will be wining and dinning and living it up just like they are doing in the White House now. And, the Peasants will be ORDERED to work their a**es off to contribute to the ONES’ luxurious life style.
    *******

    Ahhh….. the very ones planning don’t have to run at all.

    150,000,000 armed Americans may disagree with this statement…….and I pray they are right.
    I wish they’d try to run…….just to see how many wouldn’t make it to the borders or airports.
    I hope our Congress has been listening to the current threats coming from their constituents…….many seem to feel they are the first to target…congress.

  57. USApatriots-shout,

    Very old story….

  58. From Orly-usapatriots-shoutblogspot.com Check the date the material looks like it has been published months ago.?????
    http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/
    You got it. FBI is covering up Obama sitting in the White House with stolen ss numbers and they put me on the terrorist watch list for trying to bring this massive fraud and treason to trial. Thank you judge Land and Judge Carter for dispensing justice.
    Posted on | December 8, 2009 | No Comments

    Paul Jones Submitted on 2009/12/07 at 10:56pm
    THIS IS PROOF THAT ORLY TAITZ IS ON THE FBI TERRORIST WATCH LIST, THIS LETTER NEEDS TO BE SENT TO JUDGE CARTER SO HE CAN SEE THE MASSIVE FRAID AND CONSPIRACY AGAINST THE AMERICAN HEROIN ORLY TAITZ. PUTTING HER ON THE TERRORIST WATCH LIST IS JUST THE FIST STEP. SOON IT’LL BE FEMA CAMPS. EVERYONE NEEDS TO EHAIL GLENN BECK AND URGE HER TO HAVE ORLY ON A SHOW. IF HE DOESN’T THEN THEIR NEEDS TO BE A MILLION MAN MARCH ON HIS SHOW TO PROTEST HIS COVERUP OF OBAMACARE FEMA CAMPS!

  59. Patriot Dreamer

    My Big Fat Government Takeover
    Rule by the best and the brightest

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703558004574582312065087466.html

  60. Bob Strauss, thanks for the update on the UIPA issues. I had a feeling Leo wasn’t really going to follow through on that. He seems capable, but he gets distracted very easily and he’s a little too overconfident IMO. He jumps to conclusions that aren’t always well-supported by the facts. I’m certainly not expecting much from this car dealer quo warranto lawsuit.

  61. JJ // December 7, 2009 at 11:30 pm
    JJ-I believe they poop in their backyards thinking that if they were to destroy America and turn it into a Communist country, they would be in control and rule forever and would not have to run at all but live like KINGS enslaving their PEOPLE.
    However, if 150,000,000 armed American were to stop them before they succeed in destroying America and turn it into a communist country, then, they definately have to run as hell… I mean hell…

    NOW, IT IS A MATTER OF WHO SUCCEED IN MAKING THE MOVE FIRST. Like Rev. Manning said, “We can not wait! They are destroying America!” And sad, and they are…

    My appology for been unclear!

  62. My appology for being unclear!

  63. c.n.d.e. ville II

    Wonder what happened to Judge Carter. If he has a conscience at all, he’s got to know he has violated everything he at least seemed to hold dear.

    He cannot be the same man, the same ex-Marine that he was when the trial started.

  64. Don’t forget to mail the Obama’s a nice Religious Christian Christmas card before Christmas.

    Do you think we should include a pink slip? A bad idea I know, I know yuk…..

  65. Dear CWer’s,

    If you have a blog listed here:

    http://blogsearch.google.com/blogsearch?hl=en&scoring=d&q=link:http://thepostnemail.wordpress.com/&ie=utf-8&num=10&output=rss&partner=wordpress

    you need to change

    thepostnemail.wordpress.com

    in all your links,

    to

    thepostemail.com

    As I just shut down the old blog, and your links won’t work anymore.

    But it is not difficult to find which links you need to change, because they are listed in that Google search above,….all 337 of them

  66. c.n.d.e. ville II

    cyber –

    The communist “rulers” are in for a big surprise when the terrorists storm in and cut their heads off.

    Maniacal hatred of the jihad is deadly intent upon world subjugation, to the point of exploding its own children in order to kill everyone else’s children. Jihad must either conquer or be rooted out of the world; no co-existence is possible.

    The U.S. communists are mere tools, to be used and then subjugated or destroyed. Perhaps their brief window of “gloat” is payoff enough for selling out their souls and our country. Who knows? I surely do not.

    Which brings me to what is really on my mind tonight.

    Those responsible for “arraigning” our SEALS for apprehending and halting a terrorist have indicted themselves of gross misconduct, if not treason. They have rightly earned the contempt of our entire country.

    Again, o. is flaunting his power over our military in front of the entire world. Now America is on trial . . . . for crimes against his brothers, the poor terrorist “freedom fighters.”

    Does anyone know the names of the judges who did the arraigning of the SEALS?

    I’m glad a fund has been set-up to offset legal fees. Hopefully, America will express our outrage – loudly and long — over this injustice.

    When we don’t draw the line, things only get worse.

  67. c.n.d.e. ville II

    hapnHal —

    Thanks for the reminder.

    Pink slip works for me.

    I’m enclosing one of Don’s postcards also.

    Hmmm. I’ll combine both your suggestions. Maybe something like:

    You’re fired; the cops will be picking you up soon. Hope this card brightens up your jail cell. or

    The Pink Slip — Sending you the gift you’ve shared with so many. May your new year be merry . . and bright with handcuffs, leg-shackles, and long-term prison bars.

  68. c.n.d.e. ville II

    On another thread someone suggested telling our reps that we won’t comply with the healthcare bill anyway. I am going to start doing that.

    Maybe I’ll say, o. doesn’t show his birth certificate, I don’t comply with any bill he signs. (I’m no dummy. People have to show ID before they can work for me. Anyone could just waltz in and start giving me laws to obey.)

    Maybe I’ll also suggest that the rep start some kind of bail fund for all the people in her or his district who won’t be complying.

    Hey! Yeah! Government bailouts for the people. . .
    the ferocious felons who (gasp!) refuse (horrors! shock!) health insurance (oh no! say it ain’t so! how felonious!!) .

    Hey! This situation has real possibilities. After all, aren’t the criminals the ones who get all the money, sympathy, and understanding these days?

    Oh, I’ll also tell them the bill is unconstitutional so non-compliance is a duty.

    Maybe I’ll even tell them that o. can’t sign the thing into law anyway because he is a fraud.

    Anyway, count me in. I REALLY like that suggestion.

  69. Jacqlyn Smith

    c.n.d.e. ville II // December 8, 2009 at 2:44 am

    On another thread someone suggested telling our reps that we won’t comply with the healthcare bill anyway. I am going to start doing that.

    *******************************************

    I have been doing this for months when I call DC….I also tell them why……with a FRAUD in the White House there is NO reason to abide by anything this government does or says!!!!

  70. I received this email yesterday. If you live near St. Louis, MO, please attend this press conference. Looks like some states are not going to succumb to Obama’s health care bill.

    I would encourage everyone to attend this press conference at the immaculate Chesterfield City Hall! Rep. Jones and Rep.
    Cunningham are protecting our state from the horrendous Healthcare Bill that the Dems are trying to ram down our throats.
    It’s important that we support these two Reps by showing up in person at 10am Wed. Dec. 9th!

    S.B.

    NEWS
    From the Office of Representative Timothy W. Jones
    89th District (Missouri)
    FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:
    December 7, 2009
    CONTACT: Rep. Timothy W. Jones
    (573) 751-0562

    Representative Jones & Senator Cunningham to Hold Press Conference Regarding Filing of the Missouri Health Care Freedom Act
    Proposed Measure Would Add Missouri to 25+ States Seeking to Protect their Citizens from Federal Health Care Mandates & to Protect their Right to Choose Their Own Health Care

    JEFFERSON CITY—Representative Timothy Jones, R-Eureka, is announcing that he will join Senator Jane Cunningham, R-Chesterfield, on WEDNESDAY, DECEMBER 9, 2009 AT 10:00am AT CHESTERFIELD CITY HALL (located at 690 Chesterfield Parkway West, Chesterfield, Missouri) to discuss legislation they each will be pre-filing this month for consideration during the 2010 legislative session that is designed to protect the health care freedom currently enjoyed by all Missourians.
    Representative Jones and Senator Cunningham will introduce legislation in the form of a proposed state constitutional amendment that is designed to protect Missourians from federal health care mandates and guarantee Missourians the right to continue to choose their own health care and insurance options. The proposed legislation would also protect small business owners from the fines that are part of the current federal health care “reform” package that will be assessed for declining to participate in government run health care mandates.
    The legislation would add Missouri to a list of over two dozen states calling for legislation or state constitutional amendments to guard citizens against attempts to socialize health care through the “public option” health care mandate currently under consideration by Congress. Arizona already has such a measure on its 2010 ballot.
    “If this measure is passed by the Legislature, Missouri voters would have an opportunity to decide if they want to send a message to Washington that participation in an insurance plan is a personal right and a freedom which should not be infringed upon,” Representative Jones said.
    All are invited and encouraged to attend the press conference. For more information or to contact Representative Jones on this or any legislative matter, you may reach him at 573-751-0562 or via e-mail at tim.jones@house.mo.gov.
    ###

  71. Fernley girl.
    Ref;8:15 Pm

    I have read her book Going Rogue. In this book she comes across as someone who is possibly seeing the world thru rose colored glasses. Believe me I never expected her to show a shaded view of the world. While I admire her candor, and her obvious strength of character it is the primary reason why I say that she needs to be exposed to the REAL ways of government. Much of our government’s true color is STILL hidden from the public. I know that if she sees it FIRSTHAND she will know exactly how to handle it. But nonetheless she needs to see it firsthand,and get involved to really have her feet on the ground,and know what is really going on. This is why I think that she needs to be POTUS via the US Senate. Coming from the Senate will double her clout with regard to her public following. There is still an extremely torrid Liberal base that she will be up against. While her state level experience is fine, she needs to acquire an “upper classman”polish that she lacks at present. If you are to verbally take on the English majors of the Senate you must be articulate enough yourself to handle the best of them,and verbally force them to recognise that they are dealing with someone who is as polished as they are,and can put them in their place anytime she chooses. That is what I believe she needs to be able to do. At present I simply think that she has yet to demonstrate that she can handle the likes of the “upper classmen”if you will. When she can handle them she will also possess the ability to handle the people from around the world who say one thing, but mean something else. These are some of the most devious people of all. Anyone who talks to these people needs to have an extra set of eyes inside of them, and sees the truth of their statements. Some of the alleged foreign leaders are also some of the world’s worst liars. Anyone who they are talking to must be able to see through them instantaneously. Browbeating someone is an artform,and I think that Sarah needs to learn this art. If she can handle the world’s best liars, she will be ready to become POTUS.
    Please consider what I have said as my own personal view point. Over a lot of years I have witnessed people who failed simply because they were not articulate enough to get their point across to people who live in a domain which is dominated by “language arts”,and who are unwilling to relinquish even one inch of ground to accomodate others. These are the sort of people who Sarah will be up against,and I think it is vital that she get her feet wet in the US Senate befor moving on to pursuing the POTUS. I think that her constituents will feel the same way. Like me they don’t want to see her lose an election just because she wasn’t articulate enough to verbally beat up a political foe. That was a McCain failure as well. He simply could not think fast enough on his feet. If we are to ever reinstate truth,and honesty back into Government it must begin in the Heart. This is why I believe that Sarah would win in a landslide. Most Americans are astute enough to see her virtues. She is a very unusual person. I truly stand behind her.

  72. Thanks for responding. I, too, thought the Judge Carter story was nothing but old news. The only item that threw is is the trial date–January 2010.

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  74. Jacqlyn Smith

    Just in case anyone of you here are interested I received the below email from John Ziegler….

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  75. Linda from NY

    Obama only acknowledges inheriting Bush mistakes, never his successes

    http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2009/12/obama_only_acknowledges_inheri.html

  76. Linda from NY

    Krauthammer: EPA Move May Bring a ‘Revolution on the Administration’s Hands’

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2402694/posts

  77. Linda from NY

    Climate Treaty Reparations would cost $50-$200bn per year

    http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/12/climate_treaty_reparations_would_cost_50-200bn_per_year.html

    Pretty soon you’re talking about real money!

  78. Jacqlyn Smith

    The below post is at……

    http://www.theobamafile.com/ObamaLatest.htm

    Maybe we should all get on the phone and call Leahy’s office and point his words out to him in the Resolution they passed for McCain….let’s rub his nose in the real issue and make sure he knows anything they pass is NULL and VOID until we get a true POTUS…..his number is…..

    (202) 224-4242

    Let’s Roll Patriots!!!
    *******************************************

    Obama Signed Resolution Describing Him As Ineligible

    This is an oldie, but it needs to be revisited, since the Obots still argue that Obama is eligible to serve as Commander-in-Chief.

    On April 10, 2008, Sens. Patrick Leahy (D-VT) and Claire McCaskill (D-MO) introduced a resolution expressing the sense of the U.S. Senate that presidential candidate Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) was a ‘natural born Citizen,’ as specified in the Constitution and eligible to run for president. Sen. McCaskill knew Obama was not a U.S. Citizen, that’s why she introduced this bill — dressing it up to look like it was in Sen. John McCain’s cause.

    It was during the bill’s hearing that Sen. Patrick Leahy, Chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, made the following statement:

    “Because he was born to American citizens, there is no doubt in my mind that Senator McCain is a natural born citizen,” said Leahy. “I expect that this will be a unanimous resolution of the Senate.”

    At a Judiciary Committee hearing on April 3, Leahy asked Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff, himself a former Federal judge, if he had doubts that McCain was eligible to serve as President.

    “My assumption and my understanding is that if you are born of American parents, you are naturally a natural-born American citizen,” Chertoff replied.

    “That is mine, too,” said Leahy.

    What’s interesting here is that Sen. Leahy, the Chairman of the Senate Judiciary, confirms that a “natural born” citizen is the child of American citizen parents.

    Parents — that’s two. That’s BOTH parents.

    Every time the words, “citizen” and “parent,” are used by Sen. Leahy and Sec. Chertoff, the plural case, “citizens” and “parents,” is used. The plural case is the operative case.

    It is Sen. Leahy’s opinion — his own recorded words, in a formal Senate Resolution and on his U. S. Senate website — that Barack Obama is not a “natural born” citizen, and therefore not eligible to serve as Commander-in-Chief, regardless of his birthplace.

    Obama had one American parent –singular — his mother. His father was a citizen of Kenya, and a subject of Great Britain.

    Obama, himself, “at birth,” was a citizen of Kenya, and a subject of Great Britain — he says so on his own campaign website. This fact introduces the concept of “divided loyalties,” — the reason the founders created the eligibility requirement in the first place — a fact that further underlines Obama’s ineligibility.

    The source of this information is Sen. Leahy’s own website. The webpage contains a statement about the resolution; the resolution, itself; the Statement Of Senator Patrick Leahy (D-Vt.); and an excerpt of Sec. Chertoff’s testimony.

    The plural word “parents” is used four times. When used to identify the parents, the word “citizens” is used five times. That’s nine times that Sen. Leahy, on his own website describes the eligibility requirement. There is NO PLACE in any of these four documents where the singular case of “parent” or “citizen” is used.

    The real purpose of this bill was to change article II, section 1, clause 5 of the Constitution of the United States with reference to the requirements of being a “natural born citizen” by the Democratic Party leadership — paving the way for an Obama run.

    Both Leahy and Chertoff avoid addressing the “in the US mainland” (jus solis) element of the eligibility requirement and focus solely on parentage (jus sanguinis) in making their arguments and by doing so bring focus to the fundamental reason Obama is not qualified. He had one American parent and one foreign parent. Barack Obama is not a natural born citizen — no matter where he was born.

    Obama is a co-signer of this resolution. So, I guess he too agrees that one needs two American parents to be eligible for POTUS — except he doesn’t care — after all, he’s the Obamamessiah. Rules don’t apply to him.

  79. Jacqlyn Smith

    Here is why we need to call Leahy and remind him of this exchange with Chertoff…..

    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    EXCERPT OF SECRETARY CHERTOFF TESTIMONY FROM APRIL 2, 2008:

    ***

    Chairman Leahy. We will come back to that. I would mention one other thing, if I might, Senator Specter. Let me just ask this: I believe–and we have had some question in this Committee to have a special law passed declaring that Senator McCain, who was born in the Panama Canal, that he meets the constitutional requirement to be President. I fully believe he does. I have never had any question in my mind that he meets our constitutional requirement. You are a former Federal judge. You are the head of the agency that executes Federal immigration law. Do you have any doubt in your mind–I mean, I have none in mine. Do you have any doubt in your mind that he is constitutionally eligible to become President?

    Secretary Chertoff. My assumption and my understanding is that if you are born of American parents, you are naturally a natural-born American citizen.

    Chairman Leahy. That is mine, too. Thank you.

  80. OT: I think we need to “beat” this drum
    and beat up Michelle Obama for being a
    BIG HYPOCRITE—-her outlandish spending
    foray in the WH while Americans are jobless
    and the economy is in the tank. WHERE is
    her brain?
    There is a disconnect between
    her MOUTH and her ACTIONS!!!!!!!!!

    Michelle Obama is spending MORE MONEY than any other First Lady since Jackie Kennedy.
    Isn’t this the same MO who told Americans
    that they shouldn’t expect much, we have
    to “sacrifice”? M.O., methinks you are
    a big HYPOCRITE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Send this VIRAL!!!!!

    Don’t have to read about this on-going spending
    issue with Michelle O. to know it’s true.
    She’s recently featured as an “over spender”
    in one of the tabloids—Enquirer I think it was.

  81. Patriot Dreamer

    Krauthammer: EPA Move May Bring a ‘Revolution on the Administration’s Hands’

    “Look, it’s blackmail, a way of saying to Congress: ‘either you do cap-and-trade or we’re gonna do cap, no trade. We’re gonna regulate every aspect of American life.’ This is – if the EPA now has in its power – perhaps it will when acted over time – to intrude into every aspect of American life.”

    http://www.breitbart.tv/krauthammer-epa-move-may-bring-a-revolution-on-the-administrations-hands/

  82. Excellent, J.S.—-

    You are correct, a REMINDER in order!!!

    Don’t lose that excerpt—-it speaks volumes.

  83. JS, Has Nathan Deal’s office returned your call? Just spoke to a man who answered the phone in his office, he said they are still working on the letter to O. I tired to pin him down to a specific date but he wouldn’t give me one. I told him that Deal would not get elected as Governor of Ga. without this promised letter

  84. You know if there was one person to pick
    right now whom I thought had the brains
    to do the top job and who analyzes situations
    brilliantly it would be … drum roll……

    Charles Krauthammer

    He has impressed me endlessly on FOX
    with his commentaries.

    What say you??

  85. Maddie, I too like Krauthammer, he is a wise one

  86. Below is Chertoff’s present information and contact…..I just got off the phone with his secretary…..she says he is out of town today but I told her I wished to get his take on “natural born” citizen seeing as his discussion with Senator Leahy points to his belief that you must be born to two citizens of the US to qualify for POTUS….as a former Federal Judge this is significant because it means the definition of “natural born” at least by some judge’s means ……born on US soil to 2 US citizens…..she is going to give him my phone number when he returns and we’ll see if he calls me….if not I will call him again in the near future….until then I will be on Leahy’s case about the conversation he had with Chertoff concerning the eligibility of McCain!!!
    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Michael Chertoff
    Senior Of Counsel

    mchertoff@cov.com

    Covington & Burling LLP
    1201 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW
    Washington, DC 20004-2401

    Tel: 202.662.5060

    Covington & Burling LLP

    Practices

    White Collar Defense & Investigations

    Congressional Investigations

    Industries

    Nanotechnology

    Defense & National Security Issues

    Education

    * Harvard Law School, J.D., 1978
    o magna cum laude
    * Harvard University, B.A., 1975
    o magna cum laude

    Judicial Clerkship

    * Hon. William Brennan, Jr., U.S. Supreme Court, 1979-1980
    * Hon. Murray I. Gurfein, U.S. Court of Appeals, Second Circuit, 1978-1979

    Bar Admissions

    * District of Columbia
    * New York
    * New Jersey

    Michael Chertoff is senior of counsel in the firm’s Washington, DC office and a member of the White Collar Defense and Investigations practice group.

    Most recently, Mr. Chertoff served as Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security. As Secretary, he led a 218,000 person department with a budget of $50 billion. Mr. Chertoff developed and implemented border security and immigration policy; promulgated homeland security regulations; and spearheaded a national cyber security strategy. He also served periodically on the National Security Council and the Homeland Security Council, and on the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States.

    Prior to his appointment to the Cabinet, Mr. Chertoff served from 2003 to 2005 on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit. Before becoming a federal judge, Mr. Chertoff was the Assistant Attorney General for the Criminal Division of the U.S. Department of Justice. In that position, he oversaw the investigation of the 9/11 terrorist attacks, and formed the Enron Task Force, which produced more than 20 convictions, including those of CEOs Jeffrey Skilling and Kenneth Lay.

    Mr. Chertoff’s career includes more than a decade as a federal prosecutor, including service as U.S. Attorney for the District of New Jersey, First Assistant U.S. Attorney for the District of New Jersey, and Assistant U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York. As a federal prosecutor, Mr. Chertoff investigated and personally prosecuted significant cases of political corruption, organized crime, and corporate fraud.

    From 1994-2001, Mr. Chertoff represented major corporations and individuals in numerous white collar investigations and trials. Among other matters, he successfully represented the nation’s largest hospital company in a four year, multi-jurisdictional criminal and civil investigation, represented major corporations in corruption scandals, and obtained acquittals at trial for individual criminal defendants.

    Mr. Chertoff has received numerous awards including the Department of Justice Henry E. Petersen Memorial Award (2006); the Department of Justice John Marshall Award for Trial of Litigation (1987); NAACP Benjamin L. Hooks Award for Distinguished Service (2007); European Institute Transatlantic Leadership Award (2008); and two honorary doctorates. His trial experiences have been featured in over half a dozen books and many news articles.

  87. #

    carmen // December 8, 2009 at 9:57 am

    JS, Has Nathan Deal’s office returned your call? Just spoke to a man who answered the phone in his office, he said they are still working on the letter to O. I tired to pin him down to a specific date but he wouldn’t give me one. I told him that Deal would not get elected as Governor of Ga. without this promised letter
    (((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((

    Carmen…..No one has returned my call but I will be calling them back in a couple of days if I don’t here from India…..they said she was out sick so I will give her a few days to recuperate!!! I’m on to my next project…..I have written about it above…..calling Leahy and Chertoff concerning the excerpt I found when they were discussing the 511 resolution!

  88. #

    carmen // December 8, 2009 at 10:01 am

    Maddie, I too like Krauthammer, he is a wise one
    *********************************************

    Maddie and Carmen….I agree…..I like the way he analyzes things and uses that out of the ordinary wit to express his analytical thinking!!! Very rare indeed!

  89. Jacqlyn Smith
    You da woman!

  90. #

    citizenwells // December 8, 2009 at 10:13 am

    Jacqlyn Smith
    You da woman!
    *********************************************

    CW….Not anymore than….You da man!!! We must all do our part and keep this issue front and center…..it will be the court of public opinion that brings the FRAUD in our house down…..Look at the polls….no president in our history has been this low so early into their admin!!!

  91. Most Americans Prefer ‘Merry Christmas’ To ‘Happy Holidays’

    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/lifestyle/holidays/november_2009/most_americans_prefer_merry_christmas_to_happy_holidays

    Gee…do you think it is because we are a Judeo-Christian nation?

  92. I was confused lately hearing him defend Geithner on Fox roundtable.

  93. What?

    Lawyer Hired by ACORN Finds No Pattern of Illegal Conduct by Group’s Staff

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/12/07/lawyer-hired-acorn-doesnt-pattern-illegal-conduct/?test=latestnews

  94. Biggest Waves in a Decade Predicted in Hawaii

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,579689,00.html

    Hmmm…aren’t the O’s going to Hawaii for their “Happy Holidays?”

  95. Updated December 08, 2009

    Obama’s 47 Percent Approval Lowest of Any President at This Point

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/12/08/obamas-percent-approval-lowest-president-point/

  96. In Kabul, Gates Vows U.S. ‘In This Thing to Win’

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/12/07/kabul-gates-vows-thing-win/

  97. No Heroes’ Welcome for Navy SEALs

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,579697,00.html

  98. Linda from NY // December 8, 2009 at 10:43 am

    Mass. Voters Taking 1st Step to Fill Kennedy Seat
    *******************************************

    So does this mean they can vote the Democrat out??? I thought they appointed some Democrat to take Kennedy’s place…..did that fall through???

  99. Called Leahy’s office…..reviewed the excerpt above with one of his staffers…..the guy gave me the Judiciary number to call and discuss with the staff over there…..I will do that shortly…..in the mean time here is the Judiciary committee number if any of you care to call it…..

    202-334-7703…….

    Leahy is the head of the Judiciary committee….explains why nothing is getting done!! How do you spell SOB????

  100. Jacqlyn:

    It is my understanding the temporary appointment by the Governor ends when the special election is held sometime in January.

    What is going on now is the primary activity.

    Happy Day…Linda

  101. Interesting comment at hillbuzz.
    http://hillbuzz.org/2009/12/06/hes-failing/#comments
    Archeryl Says:
    December 8, 2009 at 9:54 am
    In my neck of the woods (AZ) I know MANY folks who voted for Obama. I knew something was up when they all stopped talking about him—cold turkey–within the first couple of months of Obama’s inauguration. Before the election, these folks wouldn’t shut up about his wonderfulness. But after the election, they stopped talking, but they are silent no longer. They cannot believe what is happening. And they are being extremely vocal about their disgust about what this man is doing to our country. I know that hate is a strong word, but most of these Obama voters now use the word in association with their feelings about Obama.
    I also visit Los Angeles quiet frequently. Before the election, and for a few months afterward, it seemed as if every other car on the road had an Obama/Biden bumper sticker on it. No longer. The last time we were there (over Thanksgiving) my husband and I drove miles and miles on the freeways before we came across a single car displaying support for Obama.
    Americans are waking up and they don’t like what they are seeing. 2010 cannot come soon enough.

  102. Linda from NY // December 8, 2009 at 10:43 am

    Morning, Linda,

    I do vote in primary elections and I will be at the polls after work tonight with my **birth certificate in hand** to vote in this special election.

    I am ‘Unenrolled’ so I can request either the Repub or Dem ballot as I choose.

    Whenever I request a Repub ballot, the old-time poll workers always give me the stink eye, so when they do it tonight, I’ll be MORE THAN GLAD to present my birth certificate.

    I’ll probably make the local paper for doing that because not much happens in this little border town and this will be NEWS!

    GO SCOTT BROWN!

  103. http://radiopatriot.wordpress.com/
    Andrea Shea King’s top posts.
    For two weeks in a row, posts questioning Barack Obama’s background have occupied the top slot on The Radio Patriot’s “hit parade”. Last week’s #1 was NOBODY REMEMBERS OBAMA AT COLUMBIA, which attracted three times as many views as the next highest: SARAH, SARAH PALIN, QUEEN OF THE WILD FRONTIER.
    So, what does that tell us? Obama’s background is still the hottest topic, despite all the protests to the contrary that his birth certificate, academic records and background don’t matter. I’ve read bloggers who’ve tossed it off, writing “that ship has sailed.” Au contraire. It’s our Ace of Spades.
    Top Posts (the past week)
    THE MYSTERY OF BARACK
    SARAH, SARAH PALIN, QUEEN OF THE WILD FRONTIER!

  104. Just had a conversation with a staffer in the Judiciary committee dept……they are all morons….didn’t even know what the 511 resolution is….Unbelievable…..and you can’t talk to Leahy because he is too busy trying to pass health care……I let her know it will be NULL and VOID and they are not only wasting their time but our tax money as we….!! How do you spell IDIOT!!!

  105. Sue K:

    Mornin’ Girl! You Go Girl! I am so proud of you!

    Give ’em He**! If you do make the newspaper, please share with us…it will be soooo special, just like you are!

    Thanks for being you!

    Happy Day…Linda

  106. SueK // December 8, 2009 at 11:23 am

    Linda from NY // December 8, 2009 at 10:43 am

    Morning, Linda,

    I do vote in primary elections and I will be at the polls after work tonight with my **birth certificate in hand** to vote in this special election.

    I am ‘Unenrolled’ so I can request either the Repub or Dem ballot as I choose.

    *****************************************

    SueK…..you go girl……get that Scott Brown elected…..no more Kennedy dynasty!!!

  107. Jacqlyn Smith // December 8, 2009 at 10:48 am

    Hi Jackie,

    Our illustrious ‘Governor’ changed the rules so that he could *appoint* Paul Kirk temporarily; Kirk is a Kennedy clone and the stipulation was that he *cound not* run for the permanent seat in the January special election.

    Today is the primary to narrow down the field to two.

    All indications are that the candidates will be Martha Coakley (D) and Scott Brown (R) facing off on January 19.

  108. Jacqlyn:

    Numbskull…nitwit…illiterate fools!

    The people they hire for “staff” positions have to be at an intelligence level of “idiot” in order to “qualify.”

    And…we pay them to do what job?

    Peace…Linda

    PS Please mind your BP…I worry about you!

  109. Am I the only person that hears a little whistle in the USURPERS voice when he speaks. I am now listening him speak about how wonderful everything will be. Here is who he sounds like to me –

  110. #

    Linda from NY // December 8, 2009 at 11:31 am

    Jacqlyn:

    Numbskull…nitwit…illiterate fools!

    The people they hire for “staff” positions have to be at an intelligence level of “idiot” in order to “qualify.”

    And…we pay them to do what job?

    Peace…Linda

    PS Please mind your BP…I worry about you!
    *****************************************

    Linda….I’m not afraid of these fools….I have knowledge on my side….the MORON I spoke with didn’t even know the FRAUD spent millions keeping his documents hidden….she argued that several people have seen his BC….I asked who….of course she couldn’t answer that one because the answer is NO ONE has!!! I will continue to voice my concern as a private citizen….that is what we must all do if we care for this country!!

  111. Michelle:

    Hey…h0w are you?

    Thanks for that information…that is encouraging!

    Sarah recently donated the proceeds from her book sale at Fort Hood to the families of the victims! She is one special lady!

    Happy Day…Linda

  112. #

    SueK // December 8, 2009 at 11:31 am

    Jacqlyn Smith // December 8, 2009 at 10:48 am

    Hi Jackie,

    Our illustrious ‘Governor’ changed the rules so that he could *appoint* Paul Kirk temporarily; Kirk is a Kennedy clone and the stipulation was that he *cound not* run for the permanent seat in the January special election.

    Today is the primary to narrow down the field to two.

    All indications are that the candidates will be Martha Coakley (D) and Scott Brown (R) facing off on January 19.
    *****************************************

    Thank you SueK….that explains why they want this death care bill passed ASAP….if Brown wins they won’t have their 60 votes!!!!!

  113. Jacqlyn Smith @11:28 Linda from NY-Sue K
    This took 2 seconds to google. I tried to read this as jbjd would, I’ll never be as good as she is I really noticed REQUIRES and NOT DEFINED-I think some are skipping the requires part of this and just jumping to the not defined.
    http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=sr110-511
    Apr 30, 2008 – Agreed to Senate. This is the latest version of the bill currently available on GovTrack.
    SRES 511 ATS
    110th CONGRESS
    2d Session
    S. RES. 511
    Recognizing that John Sidney McCain, III, is a natural born citizen.
    IN THE SENATE OF THE UNITED STATES
    April 10, 2008
    Mrs. MCCASKILL (for herself, Mr. LEAHY, Mr. OBAMA, Mr. COBURN, Mrs. CLINTON, and Mr. WEBB) submitted the following resolution; which was referred to the Committee on the Judiciary
    April 24, 2008
    Reported by Mr. LEAHY, without amendment
    April 30, 2008
    Considered and agreed to
    RESOLUTION
    Recognizing that John Sidney McCain, III, is a natural born citizen.
    Whereas the Constitution of the United States requires that, to be eligible for the Office of the President, a person must be a `natural born Citizen’ of the United States;
    Whereas the term `natural born Citizen’, as that term appears in Article II, Section 1, is not defined in the Constitution of the United States;
    Whereas there is no evidence of the intention of the Framers or any Congress to limit the constitutional rights of children born to Americans serving in the military nor to prevent those children from serving as their country’s President;
    Whereas such limitations would be inconsistent with the purpose and intent of the `natural born Citizen’ clause of the Constitution of the United States, as evidenced by the First Congress’s own statute defining the term `natural born Citizen’;
    Whereas the well-being of all citizens of the United States is preserved and enhanced by the men and women who are assigned to serve our country outside of our national borders;
    Whereas previous presidential candidates were born outside of the United States of America and were understood to be eligible to be President; and
    Whereas John Sidney McCain, III, was born to American citizens on an American military base in the Panama Canal Zone in 1936: Now, therefore, be it
    Resolved, That John Sidney McCain, III, is a `natural born Citizen’ under Article II, Section 1, of the Constitution of the United States.
    This bill is very large, and loading it may cause your web browser to perform sluggishly, or even freeze. This is especially true for old and/or bad browsers. As an alternative you can download the PDF of the bill or read the text on THOMAS.
    Continue on to the bill…
    GovTrack.us is a project of Civic Impulse, LLC. Read about GovTrack. / Feedback (but not political opining) is welcome to operations@govtrack.us, but I can’t do your research for you, nor can I pass on messages to Members of Congress. This site is “copyleft”: You are encouraged to reuse any material on this site. Developers: GovTrack is open source and supports open knowledge.

  114. I am listening to BECK now….he is talking about Creamer….the convicted felon who works in the White House now and was at the State Dinner of the Gate crashers…..he wrote a book in prison which Axelrod declares is the blueprint for passing the death care bill…..Glenn says the 10 points he discusses in the book have already been realized by the progressives and they are using this to cram through the immoral and corrupt bill!!!

  115. A Critical Decision

    http://www.repubx.com/

  116. Copenhagen Opens with Propaganda Film of Future Children Facing Apocalypse

    http://www.repubx.com/

    What a ruse!

  117. Michelle // December 8, 2009 at 11:44 am

    Jacqlyn Smith @11:28 Linda from NY-Sue K
    This took 2 seconds to google. I tried to read this as jbjd would, I’ll never be as good as she is I really noticed REQUIRES and NOT DEFINED-I think some are skipping the requires part of this and just jumping to the not defined.

    ******************************************

    Yes Michelle….and notice how many times they use American parents…..plural!!! We have these crooked SOB’s with their own words!!! That is why I am trying to contact Chertoff…..I think he can give some reflection on the qualifications and his conversation with Leahy!!

  118. Jacqlyn Smith @11:31
    “she argued that several people have seen his BC” in the wonderful world of Obama what he didn’t tell people is the several people he showed it to were blind people and he didn’t give them the braille version. His way of getting out of another lie.

  119. Has any one noticed Barry’s lips being fatter and darker blue then usual? Believe me the mute button is on so I don’t have to listen to his lies!

  120. Jacqlyn Smith // December 8, 2009 at 11:40 am

    Welcome, Jackie.

    Governor Cadillac Deval Patrick wanted Kirk in in the Senate (albeit, temporarily) to vote for this pig of a bill, which he did.

    If the sheeples in this state can see their way clear to defeat the Progressive Attorney General Coakley and vote in the Conservative Brown, we may have a shot at turning this pathetic state around on January 19.

  121. Michelle:

    What the He** is this?

    “Whereas previous presidential candidates were born outside of the United States of America and were understood to be eligible to be President…” ???

    To whom are they referring?

    Looks like they are using this initiative to validate pp…no?

    Peace…Linda

  122. Had to come over to CW for a breath of fresh air. Was watching Obama speach and had to turn off the stories about himself.

  123. 12 Days of Christmas by Straight No Chaser(1998)

  124. Less developed nations getting screwed by updated climate-change agenda…they are pissed as the kyoto was abandoned
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/dec/08/copenhagen-climate-summit-disarray-danish-text

  125. Jacqlyn Smith @ 11:47 am
    Parents two-mother and father even if father (unknown) that is how it is listed on birth certificates in Chicago at least. One of my girlfriends sisters had a baby out of wedlock, and she was so mad at the guy-see you bye at the announcement of the pregnancy, when it was time to do the birth certificate he was listed as father unknown. They both knew they were the parents, years later they developed a better relationship for the sake of the child.

  126. #

    Michelle // December 8, 2009 at 11:55 am

    Jacqlyn Smith @ 11:47 am
    Parents two-mother and father even if father (unknown) that is how it is listed on birth certificates in Chicago at least. One of my girlfriends sisters had a baby out of wedlock, and she was so mad at the guy-see you bye at the announcement of the pregnancy, when it was time to do the birth certificate he was listed as father unknown. They both knew they were the parents, years later they developed a better relationship for the sake of the child.
    *****************************************

    Michelle….if the woman ever went on Welfare the state would come after the father and then the unknown would be known…..trust me…..I know all about it…..that happened to my husband!!

  127. Rocknee // December 8, 2009 at 11:54 am

    Hey, Rocknee,

    Those guys are GREAT!

    Thanks for posting 🙂

  128. Linda from NY @11:53 I think they are playing a semantics game between requires and where John McCain was born due to father sent overseas-which dad had to do since he was in the military.

  129. Jacqlyn Smith @12:01 baby all grown up now. He was a guy from the neighborhood so the news travelled fast. When the boys father heard what he did he got so mad he called his son “the scum of the earth” for abandoning this child. The baby was raised by her at her mothers house with much support from the family. She did not want the childs father bugging her in any way shape or form. When the baby got to be 9-10 naturally the question came up, why do all the other kids have fathers and I don’t? Not long after that-the father started showing an interest in his son, but he knew not to interfere. Worked out in a fashion.

  130. Jacqlyn @ 11:44,

    I posted that a week or so ago. What I heard was that the ‘part crashers’ story was to cover up the real story …. Robert Creamer was at the party. Good friend of Axelrods. He’s married to a Rep from Ill – different last name. The book basically says the way for the Dems to gain and keep control of the Houses …. Free Healthcare and more free stuff !! Give amnesty to the illegals and they will continue to vote for the Dems. Sounds like a lot of our Reps must have read that book!

    Anyone have Nathan Deals phone number off the top of your heads?

  131. #

    val // December 8, 2009 at 12:12 pm

    Jacqlyn @ 11:44,

    I posted that a week or so ago. What I heard was that the ‘part crashers’ story was to cover up the real story …. Robert Creamer was at the party. Good friend of Axelrods. He’s married to a Rep from Ill – different last name. The book basically says the way for the Dems to gain and keep control of the Houses …. Free Healthcare and more free stuff !! Give amnesty to the illegals and they will continue to vote for the Dems. Sounds like a lot of our Reps must have read that book!

    Anyone have Nathan Deals phone number off the top of your heads?
    ******************************************

    Val….Beck covered all of this on his show last night and today on his radio show…..he will talk about it more in depth tonight on his show…..here’s Deal’s #….202-225-5211

  132. Linda from NY@ 11:53, Goldwater was technically born in the territory of Arizona before it was a state and was declared eligible, by whom I don’t know.

  133. bob strauss:

    Thanks…did not know that!

    Gets creepier as we go…no?

    Happy Day…Linda

  134. Old Salt said:

    December 8, 2009 at 5:50 am

    Fernley girl.
    Ref;8:15 Pm

    I have read her book Going Rogue. In this book she comes across as someone who is possibly seeing the world thru rose colored glasses. Believe me I never expected her to show a shaded view of the world. While I admire her candor, and her obvious strength of character it is the primary reason why I say that she needs to be exposed to the REAL ways of government.
    *******************
    She’s already cleaned up corruption in Alaska. Isn’t that what we need in D.C.? And don’t we need it now rather than later? How long should we wait to get an honest president? BTW, I am not a huge fan. If I could choose a ticket it would be Judge Napolitano and Alan Keyes.

  135. Democrats Continue to Ignore History, Fact and Common Sense

    http://www.americasright.com/

    Among other things…

  136. Spinning Out of Control

    The Pentagon propaganda plan to win hearts and minds—of Americans

    http://www.amconmag.com/article/2010/jan/01/00036/

  137. Boulder Rocks

    A debate on the Constitution…

    http://www.amconmag.com/article/2010/jan/01/00051/

  138. cyber // December 8, 2009 at 12:16 am

    JJ // December 7, 2009 at 11:30 pm
    JJ-I believe they poop in their backyards thinking that if they were to destroy America and turn it into a Communist country, they would be in control and rule forever and would not have to run at all but live like KINGS enslaving their PEOPLE.
    However, if 150,000,000 armed American were to stop them before they succeed in destroying America and turn it into a communist country, then, they definately have to run as hell… I mean hell…

    NOW, IT IS A MATTER OF WHO SUCCEED IN MAKING THE MOVE FIRST. Like Rev. Manning said, “We can not wait! They are destroying America!” And sad, and they are…

    My appology for been unclear
    **********
    If the situation doesn’t improve, the patriots may have to step in…..or lose their country……
    the next month or two will tell…….we have been patient……….
    I do have a great inagination, but I do believe the underground facilities built with our trillions stolen over the years is for the elite when the SHTF!!!

  139. Patriot Dreamer

    For more on the Bob Creamer story that Glenn Beck has been following:

    “Was Democrats’ Health Care Strategy Written In Federal Prison?”
    http://biggovernment.com/2009/12/07/was-democrats-health-care-strategy-written-in-federal-prison/

    “The Blueprint Penned From the Pen: Manufacture a Crisis, Manufacture Rage”
    http://biggovernment.com/2009/12/07/the-blueprint-penned-from-the-pen-manufacture-a-crisis-manufacture-rage/

  140. 11:53 am —

    ““Whereas previous presidential candidates were born outside of the United States of America and were understood to be eligible to be President…” ???

    To whom are they referring?”

    ============================

    Remember Mitt’s father?

    “George W. Romney

    Romney was born to American parents in the Mormon colonies in Mexico. His family moved back to the United States when he was a child, ending up in Salt Lake City,Utah, …

    Romney was a candidate for President of the United States in 1968.”

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Romney

  141. Patriot Dreamer

    “ACORN Whitewash: What ACORN Won’t Tell You About the ‘Audit’ it Bought”
    by Rep. Darrell Issa (R-CA)

    http://biggovernment.com/2009/12/08/acorn-whitewash-what-acorn-wont-tell-you-about-its-paid-for-audit/

  142. If you can afford $15 to honor a vet, please go here:

    http://wreathsacrossamerica.org/

    Or you can volunteer to place wreaths if you are near a national cemetary.

  143. oldsalt77 // December 8, 2009 at 5:50 am

    Oldsalt, what you mean in few words…….she’s not ready to run with the big dogs.!!!

  144. **** New Post ****

  145. Maddie // December 8, 2009 at 9:41 am

    OT: I think we need to “beat” this drum
    and beat up Michelle Obama for being a
    BIG HYPOCRITE—-her outlandish spending
    foray in the WH while Americans are jobless
    and the economy is in the tank. WHERE is
    her brain?
    There is a disconnect between
    her MOUTH and her ACTIONS!!!!!!!!!

    (remember that pie she talked about?? she’s just taking your share, mine, and hers……the hell with sharing!!!

  146. Michelle // December 8, 2009 at 11:18 am

    new bumper sticker…look it up!!

    ~~~OBAMA…….PSALMS 109: 8~~~

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