Judge Clay D Land ruling, September 16, 2009, Captain Connie Rhodes, Orly Taitz, Motion for temporary restraining order, Motion denied, US District Court, Thomas D. MacDonald, Colonel, Garrison Commander Fort Benning, Judge Land uninformed, Biased?, US Constitution, Oath of office, Treason?

“I, [name], do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and
defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies,
foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to
the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental
reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully
discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter.
So help me God.”
US Military officer’s oath of office

Officers in the service of the United States are
bound by this oath to disobey any order that
violates the Constitution of the United States.



Judge Clay D. Land, US District Judge

Thomas D. MacDonald, Colonel, Garrison Commander Fort Benning

Is there any reason that I and the American public should not consider you cowards, un American or guilty of treason?

You both have taken oaths to defend the US Constitition against enemies, both foreign and domestic.

The motion made by Connie Rhodes, Captain, is not about the beliefs of her legal counsel, Orly Taitz, it is about the refusal of the usurper, Barack Obama, to prove that he is eligible to be president. The very fact that Obama has gone to such lengths to avoid proving he is a natural born citizen, should be enough to raise many large red flags.

The motion of Captain Connie Rhodes, an active military officer, who apparently takes her oath to defend the US Constitution, very seriously, was flawed. Of course, every motion, every pleading before any court in this nation is flawed. This is not a perfect world. Judge Land has made a ruling not based on merits, not based on facts and apparently, with malice aforethought, for reasons unknown. Judge Clay D. Land, a US District Court judge, has denied Captain Rhodes’ motion on September 16, 2009. The motion was for a temporary restraining order to prevent her pending deployment to Iraq based on the fact that the orders and any future orders come from an illegal, usurper Commander in Chief, Obama.

Judge Land has referred to this motion as frivolous. Based on the following, Judge Land should minimally be subject to judicial review.

I can state with certainty that the following is true:

  • We are in the middle of the Constitutional crisis foretold by attorney Philip J Berg in 2008.
  • Barack Hussein Obama is not President of the United States.
  • Obama is by any reasonable definition a usurper.
  • Obama is not a natural born citizen of the United States.
  • Obama’s father was a citizen of Kenya and therefore a British citizen.
  • There is absolutely no evidence that Obama was born in the US.
  • There is much compelling evidence that Obama does not have a long form birth certificate proving eligibility.
  • Obama has expended enormous resources to hide his past and associated documents that would clear up eligibility.
  • Barack Obama signed a form in Arizona before the primaries stating that he was a natural born citizen.
  • Barack Obama has kept hidden all documents recording his past except for a few notable exceptions such as his IL bar application. Obama lied on his bar application regarding his numerous traffic tickets and aliases.
  • Commander Walter Fitzpatrick (Ret.) and other military officers have charged Obama with treason.
  • By all indications, Captain Connie Rhodes is following her oath to defend the US Constituton.

Consider the following exerpts from Judge Land’s ruling:

“Plaintiff alleges that her deployment orders are unconstitutional and unenforceable because President Barack Obama is not constitutionally eligible to act as Commander in Chief of the United States armed forces. After conducting a hearing on Plaintiff’s motion, the Court finds that Plaintiff’s claims are frivolous.”

Judge Land, you are either uninformed, complicit in treason or incompetent.

“Plaintiff’s counsel speculates that President Obama was not born in the United States based upon the President’s alleged refusal to disclose publicly an “official birth certificate” that is satisfactory to Plaintiff’s counsel and her followers. She therefore seeks to have the judiciary compel the President to produce “satisfactory” proof that he was born in the United States. Counsel makes these allegations although a “short-form” birth certificate has been made publicly available which indicates that the President was born in Honolulu, Hawaii on August 4, 1961.3
3 The court observes that the President defeated seven opponents in
a grueling campaign for his party’s nomination that lasted more than
eighteen months and cost those opponents well over $300 million. See
Federal Election Commission, Presidential Pre-Nomination Campaign
Disbursements Dec. 31, 2008, http://www.fec.gov/press/press2009/
20090608Pres/3_2008PresPrimaryCmpgnDis.pdf (last visited Sept. 15, 2009).
Then the President faced a formidable opponent in the general election who
received $84 million to conduct his general election campaign against the
President. Press Release, Federal Election Commission, 2008 Presidential
Campaign Financial Activity Summarized (June 8, 2009), available at
http://www.fec.gov/press/press2009/20090608PresStat.shtml. It would
appear that ample opportunity existed for discovery of evidence that would
support any contention that the President was not eligible for the office
he sought.
Furthermore, Congress is apparently satisfied that the President is
qualified to serve. Congress has not instituted impeachment proceedings,
and in fact, the House of Representatives in a broad bipartisan manner has
rejected the suggestion that the President is not eligible for office.
See H.R. Res. 593, 111th Cong. (2009) (commemorating, by vote of 378-0,
the 50th anniversary of Hawaii’s statehood and stating, “the 44th
President of the United States, Barack Obama, was born in Hawaii on August
4, 1961”).”

There is no alleged refusal to disclose an “official birth certificate.” Obama has gone to great lengths to avoid this. Judge Land, if you have a legitimate copy, please share it.
A short form birth certificate has not been produced. Even Lou Dobbs of CNN was able to discern that the document produced by the Obama camp, a COLB, Certification of live birth, is just a document referring to another document and we have no proof that the COLB is genuine.

Judge Land, and/or his assistants, reveal ignorance about the vetting process and are complicit with Congress in this coverup.

“Moreover, mere allegations of a constitutional violation unsupported by a reasonable factual foundation are insufficient to warrant judicial review. To hold otherwise would be to create chaos within the military decision-making process and chain of command. As explained below, the Court must balance several factors to determine whether judicial review of a military decision is authorized.”

Judge Land, all we have are allegations that Obama is qualified to be president. We have a constitutional crisis caused by the deceit of Obama and non vetting by the Democrat party.

“She has presented no credible evidence and has made no reliable factual allegations to support her unsubstantiated,
conclusory allegations and conjecture that President Obama is ineligible to serve as President of the United States.

Instead, she uses her Complaint as a platform for spouting political rhetoric, such as her claims that the President is “an illegal usurper, an unlawful pretender, [and] an unqualified imposter.” (Compl. ¶ 21.) She continues with bare, conclusory allegations that the President is “an alien, possibly even an unnaturalized or even an unadmitted illegal alien . . . without so much as lawful residency in the United States.” (Id. ¶ 26.) Then, implying that the President is either a wandering nomad or a prolific identity fraud crook, she alleges that the President “might have used as many as 149 addresses and 39 social security numbers prior to assuming the office of President.” (Id. ¶ 110 (emphasis added).

Acknowledging the existence of a document that shows the President was born in Hawaii, Plaintiff alleges that the document “cannot be verified as genuine, and should be presumed fraudulent.””

Once again, Judge Land exhibits ignorance of the facts. The only document that the Obama camp has produced is a COLB that has not been proven to be legitimate.

“As explained previously, Plaintiff has demonstrated no likelihood of success on the merits. Her claims are based on sheer
conjecture and speculation.”


Judge Land, you are the one guilty of conjecture.
Judge Land, you have taken a similar oath one or more times. Do you take this oath seriously?

Her likelihood for success is only limited by your bias and lack of knowledge.

Colonel Thomas D MacDonald, are we to believe that you take your oath to defend the US Constitution seriously?

I understand that the court must weigh interfering with the Military. But this goes to the core of military rule and order, having a  Commander in Chief who is legitimate.

I do not criticize Judge Land for his comments on how the case was plead, however, given the serious nature of the motion, I do criticize Judge Land for calling this a frivolous motion and accusing the plaintiff of conjecture when most of his basis for attacking Captain Rhodes’ position was based on conjecture and misinformation.

Judge Land referring to concerned American patriots as “birthers” is condescending, uninformed and unacceptable.

It is apparent that of the three major players in this motion, Captain Rhodes, Judge Land and Colonel MacDonald, Captain Rhodes is the only one that lives out her oath to defend the US Constitution.

I am shocked and infuriated by the attitude of Judge Clay D Land and believe that his actions should be investigated.

Citizen Wells


530 responses to “Judge Clay D Land ruling, September 16, 2009, Captain Connie Rhodes, Orly Taitz, Motion for temporary restraining order, Motion denied, US District Court, Thomas D. MacDonald, Colonel, Garrison Commander Fort Benning, Judge Land uninformed, Biased?, US Constitution, Oath of office, Treason?

  1. Shocking…
    Like a murder in the ghetto… people were there but since no one claims to have seen it… it did not happen…
    The judge says that since prior oppents did not claim to see any issue, there is none.

    Does he mean John “born in Panama” McCain?

    Why the resistance to look at the original documents?

    Are that many judges incompetent or corrupt?

  2. The judge’s reasoning was a mixture of this and that, but ultimately boiled down to the fact that he didn’t want anything to do with it and manufactured “plausible” reasons for denial.

    Several egregious mistakes he made in his published reasoning:

    1. He referred to the document published on factcheck.org has having some value – even though it has no formal chain of custody or pedigree of any kind, other than it was put up by Obama shills. It is also thought to be a forgery – but what is worse, the type of document is easy to forge, and since it has no pedigree, who knows. Furthermore, Hawaii is known to have (it is in their state laws) issued similar documents for people not born in Hawaii – so it proves NOTHING.

    2. He trotted out the “innocent until proven guilty” nonsense as a reason for putting burden of proof on the plaintiff. Try THAT argument the next time you have to ‘prove’ your own citizenship (driver license, passport, school admission, etc.) – tell them that the burden of proof is on them to prove that you are not a proper citizen!

    3. He did not recognize that there is a valid question – he basically resorted to the common ‘man on the street’ reaction – “Oh, surely, if there were anything to this, somebody reputable would have brought it up”.

    4. He looked at no evidence whatsoever. He simply refused to hear the case. In the end, THAT is the major reason justice was denied. There is some circumstantial and highly suspicious evidence that Obama was born in Hawaii. There is some circumstantial evidence that he was born in Kenya – apparently less suspicious than the Hawaii data, but never-the-less not yet proven. Either of these could be right. Both could be wrong and Obama was born somewhere else (leading candidate that actually has a bit of evidence: Canada).

    Furthermore, even if Obama were born in Hawaii, by his own documented narrative and published materials, he does not qualify as a Natural Born Citizen, as required by the constitution. Of course, many people believe his legend is largely fiction, so who knows. For instance, there is more evidence that his father was Frank Marshall Davis than there is for Barack Senior (some bit of evidence that maybe even Malcolm X).

    As you can see THE problem is that nobody really knows. Obama has withheld or suppressed all the necessary information and refuses to release it. ‘We The People’ are sovereign in this nation, and ‘We The People’ have a right to know the truth and demand to know the truth. This is the other big reason justice was denied. I find little sympathy with any extremists who are just sure they know the answer. There are no documents – how could anyone know one way or another? This is an unacceptable situation.

  3. Truth Exists (Paulajal)

    Well said! Learning that a United States judge can be this ignorant and this corrupt should shake the bowels of every decent American citizen.

  4. you left out that he called the constitution

    talking points

    if i ever meet this SOB he’s going to get a knuckle sandwich from me

    let the FED s come and knock down my door

    i will HAVE JUSTICE and case for suit
    against injustice and mockery being made
    of our constitution by this fake and fraud sitting in the WH

    Even Buress said “at least I am a natural born citizen”.
    good post

  5. Let’s pursue having Judge Land diciplined.

  6. “He then mocks Captain Rhodes for not refusing all commands, and thereby argues her motives are political.”

    Marching orders: Refuse all commands from the usurper, and therefore your motives will be LAWFUL.

  7. CW!

    Great insight! You put it so well…..If I may, I’d like to add my view a bit here…
    Am I wrong here?…………..I realize it’s not wise to “excerpt out of context” using “cut & paste” but I just want to make a point…….Judge Land appear to want things both ways….. at the initial hearing on Monday, the Judge said this:
    Land repeatedly pointed out it was a courtroom where the rule of law was all that mattered.
    “Whenever I give you a minute, you go off on these talking points,” Land said.
    “We have not seen Mr. Obama’s birth certificate,” Taitz responded.
    “This is not a forum to lay ground work for a press conference,” Land said. “This is a court of law.”
    In her final argument, Taitz asked Land why she had to prove a “Kenyan birth certificate” she submitted as evidence was authentic, yet her opponents didn’t have to prove Obama had an authentic United States birth certificate.
    “Who has the burden of establishing that the president of the United States is not eligible to serve in his office?” Land asked Taitz.
    The judge pointed out that burden fell on Rhodes because she sought the restraining order to stop her deployment.

    Then, today, he puts his “Politician Hat” on and makes several political remarks which don’t look to me like “courtroom dialogue referring to any “law”
    In his order, Land states in a footnote that Obama defeated seven opponents in a “grueling” primary campaign that cost the contenders more than $300 million. Obama then moved on to the general election, where he faced Sen. John McCain, who Land states got $84 million to wage his campaign.
    “It would appear that ample opportunity existed for discovery of evidence that would support any contention that the president was not eligible for the office he sought,” Land says.
    The judge adds that Congress hasn’t started impeachment proceedings against Obama, appears satisfied that he can hold the office and has rejected the suggestion he isn’t. WHEN DID ANYONE SAY THAT? WHEN WAS THE SUGGESTION” REJECTED”? IT NEVER HAS GOTTEN TO A COURT OF LAW YET!
    Again, I realize it’s not advisable to take things out of context but please allow me the latitude just this once to make my point?

    Am I wrong??
    Judge Land needs a trip to the “Reality Well” for a little enlightening…..I
    His remarks bear a suspiciously close resemblance to the many, many “canned” e-mail responses we all got from our “elected congress people” almost word for word……

    Again, am I wrong?


  8. http://www.resistnet.com/forum/topics/action-alert-5
    ACTION ALERT!!Please watch video and let me know what you think????

  9. I wish that Orly would have explained to Rhodes how McCain was also ineligible. Of course, no one would have been able to foresee that Land would ask the question he did.

  10. citizenwells // September 16, 2009 at 3:26 pm;

    Agreed. He should be impeached for unprofessional and unethical behavior. Someone needs to remind him that “factcheck” has corrected their “facts” twice already regarding the Soetoro entry.

  11. Great Post CW!!!

    Truth is Judge Clay is taking his orders from his corporate Masters. He does not have jurisdiction because we’re dealing with a ‘corporation’.

    General Potrayeus (sp?) could bring a suit against Obama, and would not have standing.

    Obama is the CEO of the corporation known as the United States right now, and “WE” as slaves, have no rights.

    I might also bring to everyones attention, that Atty. Steve Pidgeon is as we all know, one of the brightest attorneys in this fight.

    Why do you think he has joined forces with Carl, Joyce, and Rod, in tackling this from the direction they are pursuing?

    Steve is no dummy, and knows the only way we are going to crack this egg, is to go after the corporation.

    Orly, Berg, Apuzzo, and all others have done everything they can do.

    Insanity is trying the same thing, over and over again, expecting different results.

    How many Federal lawsuits against Obama now?

    We can bring 10,000 more, and will continue to get the same result.

    Attack the Corporation !!! It’s the only way!

  12. http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/09/is_obama_a_narcissist.html

    Although one cannot make a diagnosis without “seeing” a patient, with seasoned clinicians, irrespective of the malady, very accurate diagnoses can be made from afar.

    This article restates what others have written. It is more of a narrative and with less technical language.

    Many such individuals walk the streets. Few make up a handful that attempt to control the world. That’s the difference.

  13. Richard-The way I see it Obama put the phony COLB on a web-site, later proven to be a forgery. All of Obama’s credentials should have
    been taken care of at the time of the campaign. Didn’t Phil Berg start his lawsuits around that time and was told he did not have standing. All of Obama’s records either MIA, or not available or sealed. How can a judge refer back to that? Most of what Orly or anyone has now, has only recently been obtained. He is not ruling on law nor logic, nor common sense. Now to add to Obama’s crimes $300 million stolen in the campaign-McCain, Sarah and Hillary, because the election was not fair due to a low-down liar, fraud, cheat mobster etc.

  14. If Carter feels that people who criticize Obama are racists, can we start a huge campaign to call him a sexist because he opposed Hillary Clinton? What basis does he have to call people racists other than he says he lives in the south and he knows racism is there? I live in the south and I know that Southern Baptist preachers like him are sexists especially when they tell wives to submit to their husbands. At least that’s based in facts. I know that Southern Baptist preachers are anti-semites too. Carter is a good example of both sexism and anti-semitism. I think President Carter is a deplorable excuse for an ex-President. I was young and naive when I voted for him at 18 years old. I wish I could take that vote back. We are still living with Carter’s terrible mistake as President when he allowed the Islamic terrorists to come into power in Iran. He was a terrible president. He’s a horrible sexist and anti-semite and we should call him out on it. We don’t have to stand for his name calling. We need to start a campaign against Carter now.

  15. From the United States of America-Army’s web-site. So using the logic U S is a corporation the government is lying to everyone in the military who is fighting for our country-when they should say you are fighting for a Corporation.
    Does the military have to be sued for fraud?
    “Basically, you have to be a good person to be able to fight for somebody who you don’t even know. In the end, it’s all worth it. I’m going to be part of something huge – the Infantry, fighting for our country, the Army.

  16. Truth Exists: Well said! Learning that a United States judge can be this ignorant and this corrupt should shake the bowels of every decent American citizen.

    It’s sad, but true that most of the judges and politicians don’t understand what an NBC is. This is why some of these attorneys need to listen to Leo Donofrio so they can be educated.

  17. I’m right there with carlyle.

    aKA: German sleeper agent

  18. He’s the secret son of Malcol X

    german sleeper agent

  19. Carlyle:
    He trotted out the “innocent until proven guilty” nonsense as a reason for putting burden of proof on the plaintiff. Try THAT argument the next time you have to ‘prove’ your own citizenship (driver license, passport, school admission, etc.) – tell them that the burden of proof is on them to prove that you are not a proper citizen!
    Next time I’m asked to prove ID or citizenship,
    I’m going to say I don’t have to. If the POTUS
    can get away with this, so can millions of
    American citizens.

    Maybe we should all start NO ID/NO RECORDS/NO BC S Teaparties next!!!!
    With plenty of signage.

  20. Next time I’m in Canada trying to get back into the US, I’ll tell them to look at my passport on the internet.

  21. Oh my Land! Just your typical cowardly judge. He’s been listening to the trump up race stuff and this is to hot to handle. These judges don’t want to be the first one period and be mysterious driving and their brakes fail. They see the atom bomb. theres still 20 million out there who just can’t process truth and would rally around the one. He needs to be brought to justice asap but, the wow moment isn’t there yet!

  22. From the Obama File
    And once again, we have a judge using the bogus “birth certificate” posted at FactCheck.org as evidence — he references it at least twice in his decision — but refused to even look at any other “evidence.”

    How could the FactCheck document even be referred to as evidence it has no provenance. They could have held up a $3.00 bill and it would have the same effect.
    In other words there is no evidence that it is evidence-all it is is a forged document which literally means it is a scrap of paper with black printing on it.

  23. Next time I apply for a job, and my employer wants me to prove I’m a US citizen, I’ll tell them to look on the internet since that what Obama did.

    Next time my employer wants me to show my college records to show I actually have the degree I claim, I’ll tell them to take my word for it and have my college records sealed by a court. It’s okay I’ll tell them because that’s what Obama did.

    My boss would laugh me out of a job, and a judge would throw me out of court if I filed a law suit. They’d say my argument is ridiculous so why is Obama able to do it?

  24. CW: Superb thread here. Judge Land needs
    to go “on alert” for his derilection of duty
    in not upholding the US Constitution.

  25. Again, We The People need to March to the Unites States Supreme Court. And we will have Standing, A Million Citizens Standing, and demand they Reconize the Constitution. A Native or natural-Born are those born in a country to citizen Parents. Exactly the way I was Taught.

  26. Agreed, we all seem to think Judge Land needs to be written up

  27. Tina // September 16, 2009 at 3:54 pm

    If Carter feels that people who criticize Obama are racists, can we start a huge campaign to call him a sexist because he opposed Hillary Clinton?

    Good idea. Where do we sign up against
    Carter and his sexism along with racism and
    anti-semitism—-He’s got ALL 3!!!!!!!!

  28. CW: Great analysis. What Judge Land needs is an education, but even if we were to pound him with the “facts” in print, he would just file them in the circular file. “Ignorance is Bliss!” It is obvious to me and maybe to some others here, too, he was paid-off. I cannot believe he even passed the bar! His behavior and his accusatory, belittling remarks to both the plantiff and her attorney are an embarrassment to our judicial system; a miscarriage of justice, plain and simple. IMHO, he should be removed. By what procedure can this happen? Anyone know?

  29. All
    From the Obama File
    I think both Hillary and Sarah would rather die than fall back on sexism as a argument/excuse. This is pathetic. Obama no one cares what color your skin is, the problem is with how corrupt and inept you are, with your shove the most stupid garbage referred to as bills down peoples throats. If no one has told you this, please seek professional help for your delusion and other psychiatric problems. It is being lost on the merits as it should be not the color of the presenting it.
    Obama Is Losing The ObamaCare Argument
    A quick Google News search on — Obama race racist racism — returned 1,719 results. Here’s just a few:
    Jimmy Carter — “I think an overwhelming portion of the intensely demonstrated animosity toward President Barack
    Obama is based on the fact that he is a black man, that he’s African American.”
    Maureen Dowd — “Joe Wilson yelled ‘You lie! at a president who didn’t. But, fair or not, what I heard was an unspoken
    word in the air: You lie, boy!”
    Time’s Joe Klein — “…they oppose and fear him because he is black.”
    Rep. Hank Johnson, D-GA — “I guess we’ll probably have folks putting on white hoods and white uniforms again and
    riding through the countryside, intimidating people.”
    Rep. Diane Watson, D-CA — “They are spreading fear and they’re trying to see that the first president who looks like me
    Rep. David Scott, D-GA — “We’ve got to realize racism is playing a role here.”
    Obama Is Losing The ObamaCare Argument
    Bill Maher — “To heckle a President, to shout in the middle of a speech, would he have done that if it was a white
    President? I don’t think so. I think this is a southern guy who thinks, ‘I can do whatever I want when it’s a black guy

  30. Is the military fighting for our country?
    We shouldn’t be in Afghanistan.
    We shouldn’t be in Iraq.
    The “War on Terror” is a farce. Terror is a tactic, NOT an enemy. Keeping our country safe should be an effort here in the United States. Meddling in other countries pisses them off and makes us less safe. The military complex is supporting corporate interests. The brave men and women in the military are sold a bill of goods of God and country then broke and brainwashed and made to fight in “wars” for the elite’s gain.
    I love our country and our brave men and women in uniform.
    But we have to turn this around! Nothing is right in this world any more!

  31. In order to prove that you are a US Citizen for a job, you have to present your actual original documents to your employer. You are not allowed to post them on the internet or provide copies. Why can’t people ask for the original birth certificate of Obama instead of allowing him to say it’s posted online? If I can’t prove my citizenship that way and millions of other Americans can not prove their citizenship that way, how can a judge let Obama prove his citizenship that way? Under the federal law, all Americans are required to provide their original citizenship documents.

  32. Investigated by whom??? The ‘mafia’ league that either paid him off or threatened him?

    This man, this judge can’t possibly be this stupid.

    And this:
    Marching orders: Refuse all commands from the usurper, and therefore your motives will be LAWFUL.
    Fall into that trap to be court martialed??

    “When the storm has swept by, the wicked are gone, but the righteous stand firm forever.” Proverbs 10:25

  33. Tina // September 16, 2009 at 3:54 pm

    If Carter feels that people who criticize Obama are racists, can we start a huge campaign to call him a sexist because he opposed Hillary Clinton?

    Good idea. Where do we sign up against
    Carter and his sexism along with racism and
    anti-semitism—-He’s got ALL 3!!!!!!!

    E-mail any reporter you know who is sympathetic to our cause.

  34. Idea from part of what Limbaugh said yesterday
    about sending money to the home town of
    Obama Sr. in Kenya—drinking water there is
    still brought in on the backs of donkeys. Rush
    wanted to buy more donkeys for the water

    My idea is a little different…..

    The people in this village want a museum to
    Obama as the first Kenyan to become POTUS.
    The museum would not be very expensive and would be in a hut style.
    In exchange for our monetary construction of
    a building/museum, we would demand that
    the original Kenyan BC (copy) be shown us
    first to prove that he was indeed born in
    Africa. We would do what was necessary
    and the hut would go up.

    What do you think?

  35. Tina,

    Here’s why BO isn’t an NBC:

    “… As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.’s children… ” (Fightthesmears website)

    At that website, it states that BO, Sr. was a British subject, which his citizenship also governed his children. BO, Jr. has dual citizenship. He never can be a Natural Born Citizen, ever!

  36. New Hampshire State Rep. Laurence Rappaport, R-Colebrook, is tired of telling his constituents that he’s not sure of Barack Obama’s eligibility to serve as president.

    So late last week, Rappaport says, he met with New Hampshire’s secretary of state, William Gardner, who oversees the state’s elections, to demand answers. Rappaport took with him a pair of allegedly genuine, Kenyan birth certificates that declare Obama was born in Africa, and not in the U.S., as has been widely reported.

    Rep. Rappaport, meet Judge Land….

  37. This is a good idea and so needed. This Obama government is so corrupt, every American citizen will be watch dogging it. They brought it on themselves. Obama not NBC and lies about it, DNC-Nancy Pelosi was the “arranger”.
    The idea behind BigGovernment.com, like most Breitbart sites, is part of a bigger vision: the philosophy that big government is bad for our country. Contributors are expected to post information and insights into political news on a variety of topics. Flynn named health care, budget, the stimulus and bailouts as examples. He also promised more investigative journalism. “The central issue behind every issue that’s being discussed … is the size and scope of government,” he said. Big Hollywood launched with a list of four contributors that has expanded daily and will eventually include elected officials, activists and think tank analysts, according to Flynn. “What we want to do is aggregate [information] together so that the average Joe Public will have a place to go to find out what they need to weigh in as these policies are debated,” he said.

  38. PS: regarding the hut/museum idea: the
    building of it in no way legitimizes obama’s
    current position because we would swiftly
    follow up after the Kenyans meet the lst
    requirement. Still working out the details.

  39. JJ,

    How far along is the NH challenge?

  40. On “investigations” – the naughty little pessimist in me speaks:

    NH SoS will investigate by talking to Judge Land. He will then write a report that says a respected senior Federal judge says everything is ‘frivolous’ and ‘Alice in Wonderland’. Investigation done, case closed.

    ACORN has announced they are shutting down operations pending a complete audit of everything and everybody. This internal audit will take a week or two, a handful of people will be fired. All will then be well and swell and operations will continue. Problem solved.

  41. The South // September 16, 2009 at 3:38 pm

    Great Post CW!!!

    Truth is Judge Clay is taking his orders from his corporate Masters. He does not have jurisdiction because we’re dealing with a ‘corporation’.
    If United States is a Corporation, then, WE THE PEOPLE, THE TAX PAYERS, are the majority SHARE HOLDERS and majority rules. We as the Owners of the Corporation can fire the CEO if he doesn’t produce his BC.

  42. Another ACORN tape tonight. Only this time it’s revealed on Hannity. Guess Glenn Beck was stealing the thunder from the other shows on FOX and had to “share.” Breitbart will not post it until Hannity is on air.

    I’m waiting for the Obama Chicago “family tree” chalkboard visual that someone from Breitbart is working on and was supposed to be revealed on Glenn Beck this week. Perhaps Thurs or Friday.

    CW: You’re on it!!!!

  43. I e-mailed Orly and asked if she was going to appeal. I also asked if she was going to file Quo Warranto. No reply, as of yet.

  44. cyber— THIS CEO hasn’t produced ANY of
    his records? What’s up with that!

    He’s FIRED!!!!!!!!

  45. Must read and pass on this article.

    The bottom line: world trade has collapsed, shipping lines, once flourishing, have become graveyard archipelagos populated by rusting ship skeletons.


  46. Waters: Probe ‘birthers and the teabaggers’ at rallies for racist views
    By Michael O’Brien – 09/16/09 12:10 PM ET

    The media should investigate the racial views of conservative activists like the ones who descended on Washington last weekend, one liberal congresswoman said Wednesday.

    Rep. Maxine Waters (D-Calif.) said that it’s not enough for African-Americans to levy allegations of racism against the right-leaning protesters, and that the media must look into their views.

  47. signing off to watch a soccer game of 5 yr olds.
    back latter.

    someone give some feedback on my hut/museum idea, please. thanks.

  48. Carter didn’t support Mr. Keyes for President. So is Jimmy Carter a racist? He is if you follow his own speech that we’re racists if we don’t support Obama.

  49. Maddie @ 5:00PM

    Yes, he should have produced ALL documents required for the job. If he were to have produced any fake documents, the employers still could fire him. Most employees have to sign an application to admit that they are telling the truth or could be fired if found otherwise even after the employment.

  50. @ maddie: I wish I could give you feedback, but I feel sick to my soul today. Some of the things I want to say…some of the things I find myself thinking…are just beyond the bounds, so I will remain silent. I wish I had something as light hearted and fun as a child’s soccer game to distract me.

    Enjoy yourself there, maddie, don’t let thoughts of 0bama and kenya intrude.

  51. Carlyle, the problem is simple, under the law Judge Land cannot “rule” on something Orly Taitz fails to allege and argue.

    While people may clearly disagree with Judge Land’s opinion, if people do not start demanding that Orly Taitz prepare a complaint bringing these issues before a court she will continue to cause rulings like that of Judge Land, and in turn make it that much more difficult in cases brought by other Plaintiffs.

    CW knows that I understand his position over the statements of Judge Land, but if people continue to act like Orly Taitz s@#$ does not stink and hold her accountable for her refusal to file proper pleadings, you are going to end up with a book of Judge Land opinions.

    Also one other note, it was brought to my attention that people were posting comments about my post stating our “projected Kindle date” was today. The conversion is scheduled to be completed today or tomorrow and will be uploaded to Amazon’s Kindle when it is completed.

  52. I was bored with the racist line more than a year ago. The only thing left is to completely ignore the remark and move on.

    The guilt of the white, pink, green, whatever , American mind is not as profound as they would like to believe, but it sure as hell is convenient.

  53. Hopefully, Obama can go live in his museum hut

  54. Orly reminds me of this quote:

    “…he flung himself from the room, flung himself upon his horse and rode madly off in all directions.” – Stephen Leacock

    Obama could ask for no better ally than having Orly against him.

  55. maddie,

    Your idea has lovely sense of symmetry: we build the hut, you produce the BC.

    But look at what they did to Corsi. He was literally run out of the country and by a hair escaped being imprisoned. The country is as corrupt and more effectively than the States.

    The good will of the village would be crushed in a nanosecond.

  56. Venice, you wrote: I was bored with the racist line more than a year ago. The only thing left is to completely ignore the remark and move on.

    I’m with you on that racist thing. Basically I don’t pay any attention to them anymore when they say it. They are running out of things to say, I guess. Also, I wonder how many people with black skin are in J. Carter’s family? Or how many work in his peanut farm? Lame Cherry asked that one. It’s a good one to ask Carter back.

    My husband said, though, probably not any, because they’re all married to first cousins, their sisters, etc.

  57. Clay D. Land
    U.S. District Judge
    Post Office Box 2017
    Columbus, Georgia 31902

    Scheduling/Courtroom Clerk:
    Pam Sweeden – (706)649-7812


    Please write Judge Land and know that it is completely unacceptable to treat our military like garbage, to publicly demean them, slap them in the face, and say the president is eligible because of lots of money and lots of votes. This judge obviously thinks money talks, but his own political views are not to prejudice his ability to serve as judge. He is serving that fraudulent president, not the military personnel turning to the legal system for confidence in the leader. It is not okay to publicly slap military people, and I hope our military are watching. Judge Land should treat anybody putting their own life on the line for his safety with deep respect and gratitude. Instead he mocks her, like Pilate mocking Jesus. Money talks for him, not the law. Rhodes has good reason to question the behavior of a person claiming to be president and hiding all documents. Judge Land should have sincere doubts in such a president. If he cannot give judgment without insults, he really needs to find another job.

  58. Was listening in to some talk on the car radio this a.m….first Rush talking about Joe and the ‘racist’-response thing; but when I kept hearing Rush say “he’ African American” I wanted to yell at the radio, “Rush; ‘you lie!'”…or “at least make sure before you state such…how can you be sure? who’s proved ANYTHING?” Do you KNOW he’s of African decent?…and do you KNOW that he’s an American (citizen)?…seems the jury is still out on both accounts (pun intended).

    Later on radio “Joe” (Handel?) was discussing the whole racist thing, and invited ‘black’ call-ins for their take on the whole ‘rebuke Joe for his racist outburst’ thing. Comparisons started coming out about what K. West said to Taylor Swift, etc. Made me wonder:

    “where’s the USTA rebuke of Ms. Williams’ racial outburst at the umpire?”

    …and “where’s the Academy of Arts & Sciences, et al the entertainment awards folks with their rebuke of Mr. West for his racial outburst against Ms. Swift?”
    Is it not yet they’re just trying so ‘set as many fires’ as they can…everywhere and anywhere; like I stated previously: ’cause they doubt the will and way to resist it?

  59. Why doesnt anybody make proper use of Senate Resolution 511 which in the last two lines defines natural born citizen (in the Senates own words) as born to American citizens!
    This is getting bizarre-

  60. C.N.D.E. Ville II

    Cautiously venturing into the blog-sphere, here.

    I am grieving for the families of slain American and Afghani soldiers, casualties of delayed back-up ,directly due to unlawful orders from an unlawful CinC. I am beside myself.

    Now Judge Land, instead of upholding the Captain’s right to document the eligibility of her CinC, has relegated Captain Rhodes to needless risk in the same faux “set-up” at the battlefront. Yes, crying does seem most appropriate. We are not addressing “issues” here; we are addressing the lives of our family members.

    See: We Are Pinned Down: 4 U.S. Marines Die in Afghan Ambush at oilforimmigration and

  61. Whoa! What did he say?


  62. Who is Judging the Judge?


    Though the article was written back in 2006, it is appropriate particularly now.

    CW: you may be interested in this article on abuse on Judicial Power. Even though it appeared in the Huffington Post, still relative.


  63. Venice @ 5:24: headline show read:
    (the slopes are open…)

  64. typo: “should read…”
    The South: will “The Plan” be available for a re-broadcast later?

  65. Re-do,

    I do like minds that work like yours. Its often the angle nobody else has thought of.

  66. re-do on re-do question (correction in CAPS):
    “Is it not yet CLEAR THAT they’re just trying so ’set as many fires as they can’
    …everywhere and anywhere; like I stated previously: ’cause they doubt THERE IS the will and way to resist it?”
    (sorry ’bout that)

  67. venice // September 16, 2009 at 5:47 pm

    Hi Venice,

    Had a heads-up on this operation. They were going to target the subway system this time…

  68. Re-do.

    I believe the show will be archived, either on Carls site, or at patriots heart network.

    Show starts in 38 minutes


  69. cq-Jon Stewart video was a hoot. A couple of inexperience kids, with the hokiest story in the entire world, made every “journalist” in the country look like total idiots and with a $3,000.00 budget. I’m from Chicago I can’t wait until they really start digging into the Obama-ACORN-mob-City Hall connection. There is plenty of material going back years that should give them a very good start.

  70. Judge Land is a crappy judge. He accepts a forged computer generated document of a COLB as proof that BO was born in HI, so he calls the suit frivolous. I think he is the worst. I feel bad for Cpt Rhodes because she couldn’t get the restraining order she needs until BO has proven eligibility. He isn’t eligible by his own admission because he was governed by Britain at birth. Also, I believe he was born in Kenya and not HI. So, that judge had no proof to go by for his judgement. He obviously doesn’t care about the constitution or the real rule of law of this country. BO has committed a lot of crimes and these judges are harsh on those who are seeking the truth. BO must go!

  71. I know this will p*ss off lots of readers.

    I have my tin foil hat firmly in place.

    I know many of you are Taitz supporters.

    For those of you who remember an unsubstantiated story about someone, who on a visit to Russia, was told about a black man being groomed to be the first Communist President of the United States……….

    And then, a Russian woman, with a mail-order law degree comes along, and screws up every case she presents against Obama. Makes the “birther” movement look really bad. Provides all sorts of precedent for other judges to deny any other cases.

    Collectively we know almost nothing about anyone. (Remember, the only reason something is on the internet is because someone wants it there.) In a well-executed conspiracy the real players are never known.

    I am not saying what Taitz is or isn’t. I am just trying to warn you that things may not be as they appear. We are incapable of knowing how much we are being manipulated, or by whom.

  72. Don’t know if anyone here has ever listened to Joyce Rosenwald or not, but this woman knows her sh*t, and is helping Carl and Rod a lot in this fight.

    Here’s her site, click on the link that says…

    “Notice to Public Servants” towards the top of this homepage.


  73. BTW: I was wondering, on the Handel show, just how the call-screener was going to determine that the caller was black…and not be ‘stereotyping and being racist’…I’d like to know what kind of questions were asked for verification?! Was the call-screener ‘black’?

  74. Buraq ’08 // September 16, 2009 at 5:18 pm

    Hi Buraq,

    If something is bugging you, this is the place to say it. Feel free to share if you’re so inclined.

    Before I found this site, I was literally bursting at the seams because I live in a moonbat state, surrounded by moonbats and wackaloons. Glad I found some like-minded brothers and sisters here!

  75. SueK-moonbats and wackaloons. What state are you living in?
    Warning don’t forget about twe-he may “get” you yet again.
    I know the truth is inevitable, the government is really forgetting about the natural curiosity of the American people.

  76. Sue K-I have the news on 6:35 here in Florida. They are discussing Joe Wilson, Carter and the done to death …ism word.
    I have an idea I’m going to accuse Obama of telling the truth for the first time in his entire life the subjectg I think I’ll have to make up, don’t even know his legal real name, now what can they can call me ????
    OMG-they just said Obama may have to give a speech on race, maybe this time he’ll talk about his other race-the Caucasian side.

  77. This is so maddening! If something isn’t done about this scumbag in the WH, this nation is going to explode! If there’s a god in heaven, please help us!!

  78. For those of you interested in Cap & Tax, some really good info here:


  79. Oh yeah, forgot to mention the other scumbag. scumbag Land…we need to get him off the bench! He’s betrayed the Constitution and has disregarded the law!

  80. Michelle // September 16, 2009 at 6:34 pm

    Evening Michelle,

    mASSachusetts, the ‘Moonbat State’ (not the ‘Bay State’, as it’s called in the history books); its residents are called ‘Massholes.’

    Nice to be respected by the rest of the country, eh?

    Twe will get me…that’s a ‘given’ but I’m ready-I just ordered 6 more bibs and a protective plastic covering for the rug. That should do it.

    Yeah, not only the curiosity of the American people but also, as a free society, the praise of right and vilification of wrong.

    I have to believe this!

  81. “The present action is the second such action filed in this Court in which counsel pursues her “birther claim.” Her modus operandi is to use military officers as parties and have them allege that they should not be required to follow deployment orders because President Obama is not constitutionally qualified to be President. Although counsel has managed to fuel this “birther movement” with her litigation and press conferences, she does not appear to have prevailed on a single claim.”

    The language used is anything but legal or demonstrative of an objective professional – rather, it’s contemporary progressive labeling, “birther”, that embarrassingly demonstrates a political prejudice on the part of the judge. He did not see before nor in this case the relevant question that must be solved for all effected – as apparently Judge Carter does see. He labels the counsel and then insinuates that there is some kind of conspiracy of “using” a client, thereby also demeaning the client’s own real concern rather than seeing the foundational question re: orders from an unproven POTUS. Once again, cowardliness as well as pride of position in the judiciary. This client was “guilty” of being associated with this particular attorney in the mind of this judge. He will have much to be ashamed of and embarrased about in future days.

    He hasn’t any more a clue as to who is responsible for vetting and validating than, especially, experts on the Constitution themselves. And THAT is the open question in need of resolving as seen by a much more experienced judge than this fellow. But this case of real injury – a moral question of sending a citizen into a battleground ruled by policies already seen as causing great harm by their hamstrings of our military fighters, is a case of staying the harm while the Constitutional question can be settled. One judge sees this danger. This one, obviously of the school of glib rulings, refuses the same kind of aid. The Constitutional question is not settled – and this guy cannot even see the open question. This was not a hearing. This was a holdover prejudice, thoroughly seen in the judge’s own language, when he could not even separate each case on its own personal merits. This client should have grounds for not being heard without prejudice of inability of a judge to separate her case from his “opinion” of another.

  82. Thanks South: maybe I’ll get to hear much of it before I gotta go…

  83. CBS news reported on TARP $675 Billion of problems there and very lightly on the ACORN issues. Jon Stewart did a much better job and as he says he’s a fake reporter.
    I think twe should become the new fake reporter on this Sue K you could be his side kick. You two could report the government garbage and make it hilarious.

  84. Fernley Girl —

    Yes, most of us also know things that have never been discussed here.

    So, just let things play themselves out.

  85. secured party creditor. look at this site. Has anyone heard of this?


  86. The South: I’m there but can’t figure (duh!) how to get the live feed…

  87. The South: Got it! live now…Yay!

  88. Michelle,

    Yes Jon stewart is a hoot.

    My favorite line is “a tollbooth operator”

  89. thanks to The South: if you want, see if this works for you…listen in with ‘Carl’…


  90. Fernely Girl, Interesting thought on the russian lady who said that. I remember that one.
    something to look into.
    hmmmm? nothing surprises me any more,
    tin hat firmly in place.

  91. Re-do.

    Sorry, I stepped away from the desk. I see you’ve figured it out.

  92. Guess Jon Stewart now joins the group needing to be rebuked for racist outburst…how dare he make comedy out of that video material?!
    “better watch yer back, whitey!”…
    and how about Rev Manning’s remarks?!
    he certainly must get rebuked by somebody…if you’re gonna be ‘PC’……….(I like that guy!)
    Venice: to be PC re ‘racist’…seems that if anyone has a legit claim to cry ‘racist’ in the Rep. Joe outburst issue…it should be the Hispanics! After all, Joe’s objection wasn’t against Obama…it was against the laws that would give illegals (free?) access to taxpayer-funded healthcare…THEY are the only ones who MIGHT have a ‘racist’ beef (or carne asada!) with Rep. Joe’s ‘fury’!! How ’bout them apples?

  93. 7:10: (4:18 PDT)…yep…listening now! gracias.

  94. Larry Sinclair // September 16, 2009 at 5:18 pm

    “Carlyle, the problem is simple, under the law Judge Land cannot “rule” on something Orly Taitz fails to allege and argue”

    I don’t think she got to allege or argue anything. She was not allowed to explain herself in the hearing and the judge threw out the case with out discovery or trial.

    And, what exactly is it you think she should be arguing instead. I’m a believer in arguing as many different angles as possible. We MUST do SOMETHING to get a judge to hear the merits of the case.

  95. The South: I thought they already tossed out the 30-day order to produce?!…

  96. Maybe Joe needs to apologies to everyone south of the border?!

  97. “apologize”

  98. Re-do.

    I think that caller is running about a week behind on his facts … lol

    I’m waiting for Carl to start talking.

  99. I was thinking, it’s a sad situation when congress, judges, our elected officials, don’t understand the NBC issue and yet the regular people know more than them. Isn’t that something?

  100. the guy talking’s several days behind the news, South! seems to me…

  101. sorry for the ditto…re-do…
    that even happens here frequently…when the comments get up into the hunerts…and too much to ketchup;
    hope that wasn’t too much a waste of valuable air time…LOL!

  102. Orly updated her site. More there
    From former Scotland Yard and currently CA licensed investigator Mr. Neil Sankey
    September 16th, 2009 This crap needs to stop!

    You know, these people should be truly ashamed and disgusted with themselves for generating and peddling this utter trash against Orly Taitz.

    It is very apparent who they are, and who they are really helping, and it is NOT our cause, America. I have had personal dealings with each one of them in turn, during the past year, for whatever reason, and not a one them has, at any time, exhibited ANY INTEGRITY, HONESTY or the necessary dedication to any cause, except their own personal greed and self aggrandizement.

    They are all part of the same crowd and same group of people that have caused nothing but trouble, almost from the outset.

    We all know where Berg originated, and the kook theories expounded then. We also know that he chooses to surround himself with strange people with questionable motives and even more questionable motivations derived from their respective driving forces.

    Well I have worked closely with Doctor Taitz for the past year and a half and I can and will testify to the fact that the lady is as honest, straightforward and hard working as anyone I have ever known. She is putting herself on the line for America and gets precious little thanks for it. In my business I work with Attorneys every day, and have done for the past twenty five years in this Country. I know of NONE, not ONE, who has the dedication and determination of this lady. I have been with her through some lengthy interviews and I have never heard her make one, even vaguely, improper suggestion to anyone. Nor do I believe that she would. She is fearless and attacks topics without hesitation or concern for what effect it will have on her personally. These investigations and projects which she has undertaken on behalf of all of us and OUR FREEDOMs, would cause most of us to hesitate and procrastinate, not her.

    I remain truly amazed and stunned at the fact that very few of the Legal Profession, Police and Law enforcement, have the guts to stand up for the truth and our Constitution, or this Country, whom they always claim to hold so dear. What has happened to the integrity of the Judiciary, the CIA or the FBI, can they all be bought so cheaply? Where are they when “The People” need them? Is all they care about their Federal or State pensions? Is that really why they joined? Whatever happened to the war on corruption? Maybe THEY need to ask Orly!

    That is all to say NOTHING of hard cold cash costs, the pure financial costs to her must have been enormous, I KNOW, they have been for me, and I have just helped out occasionally, when asked.

    These Berg-ites have NO RIGHT to judge Doctor Taitz, they are are grossly inferior to her in every way. THEY are (probably intentionally) a handicap and a hindrance to the real cause and assisting ONLY the O-BOTs.

    AMERICA, the goal is, I am sure, within reach. YOU COLLECTIVELY should be eternally grateful to Doctor Orly TAITZ.

    One thing is certain, if she gives up her fight for you and on your behalf, YOU will be VERY sorry, for a VERY long time!

    Neil SANKEY, Investigator

  103. maddie // September 16, 2009 at 4:40 pm


    How far along is the NH challenge?

    It only made the news the last couple of days…I guess this is new news…I am so skeptical I’m thinking what angle is Rappaport going for..isn’t that synical??

  104. South: so is there still something of ‘weight’ expected from Oct. 5th? I understand that your focus is on the whole ‘corporation’ thing…which trumps everything else…makes ALL the lawsuits and court procedures ‘moot’, until that other stuff (The Plan) is resolved…right?

  105. Just heard back from Orly. Appeal depends on the plaintiff. Did not mention Quo Warranto.

  106. Re-do.

    I’m hoping like everyone else that Oct. 5th is a date of good news, but I’m not holding my breath.

    I’m turning blue.

    The avenue that Carl, Joyce, Rod, Bob, Steve, are taking is making more sense everyday.

    Why do these judges keep ruling that we don’t have standing?

    Because under the laws of the Corporation known as the United States, we do not have standing.

    This whole thing needs to be attacked from a different perspective.

    Obama is not bound by the Constitution, only by the laws of the Corporation; and according to those rules, there are no Natural Born Citizen stipulations that he must adhere to.

    Carl and the people he is working with have the right idea in the way they are approaching this.

  107. cq // September 16, 2009 at 5:01 pm

    re: docked ships……this is old news…reports last year and definitely before Christmas from survival blogs warned to stock up/store dried goods, canned goods, rice, oats, powdered milk, etc..because no countries were ordering foods, there would be a shortage…..I had already begun storing food (hey, label me a terrorist??) and heard the govt was doing same….why?? not a clue!!!

  108. We need some reputable, well trusted, patriot lawyers to explain this “corporations” thing to us. I always thought it was a legitimate legal fiction to allow the government or certain parts of the government to legally participate in the commercial marketplace, and the courts, etc.

    Now some people are making something entirely different and sinister out of it. This is too complicated for mere mortals to figure out (I include myself, Carl Swenson, and a few other commenters here in that category.)

    I bet Edwin Vieira could sort it out for us. Perhaps some others that post here as well.

    My recommendation is to let it “sit” until we are helped to understand what it all really means. As it is right now, it does indeed look, smell, feel, and quack like a true blue Conspiracy Theory.

    I am open minded enough, however, to listen to a properly credentialed credible source.

  109. Michelle // September 16, 2009 at 6:34 pm

    Hey Michelle,

    I did answer this post but it’s in ‘moderation’-apparently, it’s thought that there’s a naughty word in there!

    Maybe CW will take me out of moderation soon.

  110. PD: recently you posted a link to resistnet…about a 10-minute presentation at the NPC…I tried to share/send that video link via email unsuccessfully; can you repost, or provide a more reliable (?) link? hope you know which one I’m writing about…’Senior Moment’ here, and I cannot recall the speaker’s name.

  111. Carlyle.

    If you will study the info on Carls site, you’ll soon find it’s not a conspiracy ”theory”, but in fact a

    ************* CONSPIRACY **************

    To defraud, and enslave a nation by a few elite, wealthy, powerful, families.

    Listen to the interview that’s playing right now.


  112. Michelle: Thanks for sharing the letter from the investigator. He obviously has more respect for Dr. Taitz than most in her profession do.

    Seems to me, it is easy to criticize when you have not “walked the walk”, eh?

  113. South: I’m following your explanations…and understand the point you’re making; thanks.

  114. On the beach coast…if this works for you…here’s where I’m listening (re-do):
    maybe it’s the same thing…whatevah…

  115. wouldn’t that be “wooawked-da-wooawk”?

  116. o

  117. “Bernie Madoff cannot hold a candle to these…”

  118. Michelle // September 16, 2009 at 6:25 pm

    You mean like not paying property taxes, or no water bills for years for certain businesses, things like that??? I read this a few months ago when the Blago indictment was hot…lots of abuse of powers, lots of special favors,,,,

  119. Fernley Girl // September 16, 2009 at 6:27 pm

    Oh, no, we’re not teed off..we’re open-minded and I’ve not trusted anyone since Nov. 4th at about 10:00 P.M.

    I repeat…this goes so deep, it will never be uncovered.

  120. I’ve been listening to the Citizen Grand Jury programs for the past couple of weeks and find an easy way to find them is on Carl’s website. They are recorded so you can listen at your leisure. If you’ve missed the one tonight or want to re-listen to it I expect it will also be recorded shortly.


    (Or you can find them on Patriot Heart Network website but sometimes harder to find)

    I’ve been following the conversations with Bob Bickel and Joyce Rosenwald with great interest.
    It’s good to hear from both of them since they seem to validate each others findings and provide different perspectives. This is truly fascinating stuff and they do explain more than just the “corporation” stuff.

  121. I am sick of this BS. Here’s my idea.
    Let me know what you think and if it is doable. I am not a lawyer. WE just had over a million people march, and they are sick of it too. Did anyone take down contact information? Emails? Twitter? My proposal is that we get 1000 to 10,000 or more of these marchers who are sick of this regime and file a class action lawsuit. We get a reputable constitutional attorney to represent us.
    The key elements of our case would be :
    -OBama Saotao lied during the campaign duping people into thinking he was a natural born citizen when he wasn’t and isn’t. By his own words, by his grandmother’s words, by his own mother’s words in divorce papers, and by various reports from Kenya on his birth there.
    – We have damages from the bills he has signed in the form of mental anguish for abortions performed by his executive orders, $33,500 each from the stimulus bill (imagin the amount if we had 10,000 people that’s over 33 million dollars). We also have damages in form of loss of life and other harm due to the mismanagement on the war in Afganistan).

    We stick to the Constitution and throw in all the points everyone has made here on the board.

    This is just a summary. When do we start? Do we have a chance? I can , in the words fo the imortal Fred G. Sanfor- coordinate the effort. IF I get the information. And some help.
    What do you say?

  122. the suit would be against Osaotao and
    pelosi and the DNC
    as well as Congress.

    Our representatives are not listening to us.

  123. SueK, Michelle, et al–twe is not out to get anyone…but, be afraid, be very afraid!!

    …and to think I’m just posting in order to get back to where I left off when I come back on!!

  124. Patriot Dreamer

    Re-do // September 16, 2009 at 7:50 pm

    PD: recently you posted a link to resistnet…about a 10-minute presentation at the NPC…I tried to share/send that video link via email unsuccessfully; can you repost, or provide a more reliable (?) link? hope you know which one I’m writing about…’Senior Moment’ here, and I cannot recall the speaker’s name.
    I think someone else posted that in a previous thread. I don’t recall posting anything from ResistNet. Try looking in the thread right before this one? I think I remember seeing what you’re talking about. I would stick around and try to find it for you, but I have to run. Sorry!

  125. Carlyle @ 7:19pm

    If I may, pleadings were insufficient. Nowhere in the pleading did it state the fact that Obama was British at birth and that he has admitted this fact on several occasions, therefore he is NOT a Natural Born Citizen. It’s clear from the very first paragraph that the Judge only considered Obama’s BC and place of birth. He never discussed the dual citizen issue because it was NEVER raised by Orly (a grave mistake on her part, let’s hope she learns, once again) She has to focus on the citizenship NOT the BC!

  126. PD: radio mentions continental congress…I think the resist net piece was about that…’revolution’…

  127. I want my country back!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Lets start getting back!!!!!!!!!

  128. observer // September 16, 2009 at 6:48 pm

    Are you of legal profession?

  129. jUDGE LAND forgot to mention that the [p]resident is eligible on ‘twitter’.

  130. twe // September 16, 2009 at 8:14 pm

    twe, I’ve surrounded my house with a moat and alligators, just in case….

  131. African-American Caller Tells Rush Limbaugh Obama has “Set Race Relations Back 50 Years

    Rush Limbaugh Catches Hell About Obama

  132. Swine Flu’s vaccine’s devastating ingredient – Squalene

  133. CW: I hope you can get the “meat” of the transcript from this radio program…and post the “chain of command” of elected guys, as described, that’s beginning 10/10.
    (sheriff – co. commish – co. atty – st. atty -gov…)

    thanks again, South, for the heads-up and help with the link.

    night all…

  134. CW: Is this what the left thinks happened?


    Read it carefully…it is full of flaws.

  135. Da Verge, This is a huge part, imo, as to how the DNC gained total power. While I used to sit in church hearing about how a “good Christian” does not sue, the liberals were out suing conservatives for any little peep they made and winning! The courts have been overwhelmed with them and it has been a major billy club. They had a great head start because it was against the belief system of many conservatives to fight back.

    Well, times they are a changin’ and it’s time to start fightin’ like the big boys or we’re gonna lose this Country, if we haven’t already.

  136. da verg // September 16, 2009 at 8:12 pm

    the civil suit…I’ve been thinking about this for months…why noone is pursuing it, beats me..a few dollars per plaintiff, seems simple enough.

  137. If not posted already.


    A few positive comments concerning Judge Land’s decision today. Worth a look see and response from legals here.

  138. I’m through foolishly hoping the courts will FINALLY do their sworn duty to uphold the law and our Constitution. Nearly every judge and public official in this nation is either corrupt or incompetent or BOTH. It’s time for a new Revolutionary War. Sadly, that’s the ONLY viable option freedom and justice loving patriots have left.

  139. I can tell from that interview, that Carl and Bob are working diligently behind the scenes with several others.

    Sounds like they may be in contact with Sheriff Mac as well. I think they are attacking this from the roots, and have gone all the way back to 1933 and working their way to 2009.

    Like I said, Obama and Pelosi could be arrested tomorrow, and it would not change the tyranny that has infected this nation.

    It’s time to dig up the weed, from the root, and stop just breaking it off at ground level, only to allow it to emerge again.

  140. Former SEIU president given 25 yrs 4 child molestation:


  141. CW, here is a great new topic for you to post.

    Rising Calls for President Obama To Apologize For Lie To The Nation


  142. SueK–the gators should help clean up all that food on the floor and elsewhere!

    Maybe the moat will get filled when it rains!

  143. From OIL.

    Jack // Sep 16, 2009 at 11:58 pm
    Boy, are you guys missing the boat on this Judge Land ruling! Do you realize that THIS IS THE FIRST OBAMA ELIGIBILITY CASE TO PREMISE, AT LEAST IN PART, ITS DECISION ON THE FACTS ON THE MERITS OF THE CASE?!?

    THIS IS HUGE (beneficially)!

    In other words, Judge Land elected to discuss what he feels is the paucity of evidence presented to show the Obama is inelligible, not enough evidence to show the likelihood of a Taitz win on the merits — BUT HE ADDRESSED THE MERITS!!!

    This means, if anything, that DISCOVERY IS ESSENTIAL (Motions to Produce Documentation against Team Obama — birth records, college records, passport records etc.). Judge Land is saying that based on what Orly has produced, the case is frivolous BASED ON THOSE FACTS. Orly should take this landmark precedent of the Court addressing those facts and merits TO SHOW PRECISELY WHY DISCOVERY BEING MANDATED IS ABSOULTELY ESSENTIAL (and once there IS discovery, Obama will fall).

    Stated another way, the precedent has been established to address the merits and the facts of Obama’s eligibility; more than just dismissal on procedural or standing grounds.

    THIS IS A HUGE WIN (but Judge Land does it in a way to protect himself from the Obamabots by his clobbering of Taitz).

  144. JJ
    We have the means now, from contact information from the million march over the week end. How does one tap into that???

    And yes, above poster, we need a constitutional attorney. Orly did not hit hard at all at the key issues. Twice now in front of same judge. She refuses to listen. I sent her message last time around to mention it. She ignored me. Alas, and I helped her get tons of documents from all the SOSs.

  145. The recent dust up between Congressman Joe Wilson and President Obama is leading to more immigration enforcement in the US Senate, where Democratic leaders are rushing to close the loopholes that Obama claimed did not exist. Wilson’s ‘YOU LIE’ comment may have also stymied US Senator Chuck Schumer’s (D-NY) plan to introduce Comprehensive Immigration Reform AMNESTY legislation this past week. The Obama administration cannot promote Amnesty on top of health care reform, without making the President’s recent lie more obvious.

  146. From OIL again.

    Jack // Sep 17, 2009 at 1:41 am
    David C:–

    Judge Land did more than open the door on the merits. He made a ruling in substantial part (as shown by his discussion) on the merits of the facts and evidence presented by Orly Taitz, albeit ruled that Orly’s facts and evidence were grossly insuficcient (speculative, conjectural, BHO already showed a ’short form birth certificate’, etc.)

    Thus, for the first time, we’re beyond standing and procedure — with the Court actually looking at the issue of the merits and facts surrounding Obama’s Constitutional eligibility. And here is where Judge Land either intentionally or inadvertently (I don’t know which and it doesn’t matter) OPENED THE CASE FOR A SLAM DUNK VICTORY!

    In a TRO denial situation, Orly’s course should be to seek an Injunction showing that Judge Land, after reviewing the facts and evidence, misstated by omission the context for those facts and evidence because they were NOT to show Obama’s unconstitutionality based upon whether or not BHO was born in Hawaii BUT BECAUSE OBAMA HAS ALREADY ADMITTED THAT HIS FATHER WAS KENYAN/BRITISH CITIZEN — and therefore BHO not a “natural born citizen” for the purposes of Article 2 of the Constitution (even if born in Hawaii). Let the Judge try to weasel out of that one! IT’S A MATTER OF LAW — and I would dare Judge Land or any Federal Court on Appeal if an Injunction were denied, to try and say BHO is an Article 2 Natural Born Citizen under the Constitution when Orly has shown, even as admitted to by Obama so proper for summary judgment, that BHO’s father was Kenyan/British citizen on BHO’s birth. No federal court can do that.)

    Insofar as continuing harm to Orly’s client even after deployed to the Mideast, her Oath to Uphold the Constitution remains on her each and every day, and continuing — which she can not rightly uphold until resolved.

  147. Okay legals, is Jack on to something?

  148. Linda from NY -We all know how hard Orly has been working and for how long, interspersed with death threats to person, family, attacked
    web-site many times. I guess if you weren’t “dangerous” they wouldn’t do that. I just can’t see criticizing a person who has taken on the EVIL JUSTICE SYSTEM, that is currently occupying judicial robes. This government is rotten through and through. ACORN how corrupt do you have to be? Are they going for a world’s record? They and any subsidiaries should not be allowed near one penny of the taxpayers money and I would initiate a trillion dollar lawsuit to recover what they have already stolen.
    This is why no one would want me as President. They would say she’s really really mean- No, just to crooks, incompetents and evil, treasonous monsters who prey on poor people and tax payers.

  149. Rocknee // September 16, 2009 at 8:45 pm

    “Okay legals, is Jack on to something?”

    Yes. Land let his political agenda get in the way and his actions pave the way for a proper appeal based not only on evidence but on proper procedure.

    Oh, and what I mentioned earlier right from LAND:

    Marching orders: Refuse all commands from the usurper, and therefore your motives will be LAWFUL.

  150. Michelle: You are so right! If Dr. Taitz was not causing such a stir or was insignificant, why would they attack her? She has “ruffled their feathers,” and they don’t like it one bit. She never ceases to amaze me; she keeps keeping on no matter what happens.

    JeffM and Rocknee: you might be on to something…sounds logical. What kind of recourse can be taken along these lines?

    Thanks for sharing that information.

  151. Michelle for President!! We need a mean CONSTITUTIONALIST in the WH (not that I really think you’re mean..lol)

  152. Rocknee-Sue K-twe
    Thank you for the report re: Judge Land I’ll have to study that later.
    I have to watch Criminal Minds, I have become addicted. This is part 2 of a very horrible case.
    Very scary, very evil-kind of like you know where.

  153. Robert and anyone with email contact to Orly or her assistants, think she might could use this information provided by Jack.

  154. Michelle: just turn on C-span…same story…

  155. Linda from NY said:

    “Michelle: You are so right! If Dr. Taitz was not causing such a stir or was insignificant, why would they attack her?”

    It’s Alinsky Rule #12:

    RULE 12: Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.” Cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy. Go after people and not institutions; people hurt faster than institutions. (This is cruel, but very effective. Direct, personalized criticism and ridicule works.)

    The institution is Justice. And if justice occurred like it should have today, Rhodes could have had a Tickle Me Elmo as her acting attorney and the case would have spoken for itself.

  156. Just saw this on American Grand Jury by Bob Campbell….. beautiful statement in behalf of Dr. Taitz 9:15 pm 9-16-09

  157. Thanks JeffM for clarifying that for me…LOL
    Tickle me Elmo for an attorney…heeheeheeheehee.

  158. Just tried to visit Dr. Taitz blog…….. 404 Page not found……….9:29 09-16-09

  159. Off Topic: Soccer players: In kids soccer
    is it illegal to kick in the “box”? This is for
    5-year-olds by the way. Just wondering.

  160. Thanks Richard for the link; nicely put!

  161. C.N.D.E. Ville II

    Judge Land, Sir:

    I think you did not really see me, standing before you, there, in your courtroom. Let me introduce myself.

    An American citizen, I am BORN with prima facie standing, with the foundational, irrevocable right to documented proof of the identity, eligibility, qualifications, fitness, and professional claims of any and every person elected or appointed to represent my country in any and every official capacity, at any time, and especially when discrepancies or illegalities arise.

    Due to my status as a member of the fourth (and most important) branch of the U.S. government, the PEOPLE., my standing is absolute and intrinsic to my being. My rightful expectation, no, my mandated duty, to vet officials is as inbred as a baby’s expectation of his mother’s milk..

    I am not required by the Constitution to justify, explain, or otherwise jump through judicial hoops in order to assert that right or to fulfill that duty. On the contrary, compliance to thorough vetting procedures is the responsibility of office seekers and office holders.

    To dismiss my already-granted right to view authenticated documentation of eligibility is not an option for a judge acting in accordance with the oath of office. That denial merely reflects an unlawful, bordering on tyrannical, disregard for my guaranteed right.

    Nothing, not lies, cover-ups, counterfeit docs,, malfeasance, skullduggery, judicial dismissals, political and legal maneuvers , loopholes, bullying, resistance, tyrannical posturing, money, backlash, downright unlawful acts by the person claiming the presidency, truly NOTHING, negates my right to know that the president of my country is a natural born citizen and qualified by the Constitution to serve.

    No, the convoluted national antics smoke-screening the facts about the person calling himself Barrak Obama can never change the truth. I, an American citizen, have standing just because I am an American citizen.

    I have the right to know, period.

  162. For months I have said that ALL of rhe judges in the US District Courts, and in all probability all Federal Apellate Courts, and worst of all the SCOTUS,are all banded together in their corrupt activities which have led to their total disregard of the Constitution. Each ot the judges names should be placed in a permament record book which will be brought before a duly sworn Territorial Court, in which each will be prosecuted for TREASON, for which the penalty will be DEATH,by hanging. I am doubtful that Orley’s latest suit will progress much further, and it too will meet the same fate as ALL of the others. There are only two options; 1. When you vote in 2012 keep a personal, duly recorded, and notorized record of your vote. This is important. There WILL be significant changes in election laws before 2012, made by the Democrats so as to allow you to vote for only the Democratic Party. In short we will NO LONGER have FREE ELECTIONS. You must keep a duly recorded,and notorized copy of your vote for future reference.THE HANDWRITING IS ON THE WALL. The only action that can be taken is by the States. Each must SECEDE from the Union. All 50 states must act together, and in one massive movement. At least three quarters of the 50 states will need to participate to be effective. 2. I don’t think that I have to verbally state the FINAL option. The gutters will run brighr red.
    This entire regime is like an octopus.Each tentacle must be cut off. Each is involved in one or more aspects of keeping Soetoro insulated. To bring him down will require a coordinated investigation of ALL departments of the Fed. If we can crack one or two the rest will get progressivly easier. So far breaking ACORN is an important FIRST step. We need to obtain several special prosecuters, working together, to coordinate everything together. I believe that Guiliani would be an excellent choice to head up a task force, of special prosecutors. Even then this will be a really tough fight. This country has been damaged beyond imagination. Even after he is out of office it will take years if not decades to restore our country. We must then take an interest in our governance, because when Soetoro is finally driven out there will be another waiting to create another debacle. Only WATCHING,and acting will keep our country in our hands.

  163. If you want the rest of the story, get a copy of Mark Levin’s latest book. He tells it like it is.

  164. Off topic, but have you guys read Sinclair Publishing’s second book, Go Tell Aunt Rhody: Southern Murder X2 by Thornton Parsons? I have just finished it, and it is great. Hats off to you, Larry. You really picked a winner. A nice bit of escapism from the drudgery of politics.

  165. Civis Naturaliter Natus


    NH SOS refers complain about Obama on ballot to NH Attorney General…

  166. I got my copy of Aunt Rhody at Barnes and Noble.

  167. Civis Naturaliter Natus

    CW and Carlyle,

    Excellent analyses…

    How does one file a complaint about a Judge…lets move on this, if we can!

  168. RICHARD.. I went to orlys site too and got that. However, on the top. the http line, remove all after the .com/ and then click it. It is there but in a format such as Free Republic

  169. Fernley Girl,

    I remember the Russian lady forecasting a black president from the 90’s. We should also remember that Taitz has pretty tight links with Israel.

    I guess that might make for an interesting novel one day.

  170. CW……………………………………………..

    Set a PETITION FOR DISCIPLINE of Land, and I will be the first to sign the petition. Unfortunately we have NO courts that will hear it. That is PRIMARILY how Soetoro has managed to stay where he is. We first need to find a Federal Judge who is on the fence to start with, then do whatever it takes to get him/her on our side. Then get his/her assurance that no matter how hairy things get he/she will STAY committed to the Constitutional application of our laws.

  171. Let’s do a simple legal logic question for the presidency, shall we? It requires no proof of anything to decide the outcome. It’s a little long so hang in there.

    According to Article II of the U.S Constitution, the President must be a Natural Born citizen. That much we know. But, in order for a Natural Born citizen to become president, that person is chosen from the nation’s pool of other Natural Born citizens to become President.

    This pool contains 160,000,000+ natural born citizens, about 50% of nation’s citizen population. We don’t know which are citizens and which are natural born citizens because it’s irrelevant. What’s important is that there is a 50/50 chance of a citizen to not be natural born. Therefore, we must assume that all natural born citizens are just plain ole’ citizens, naturalized or otherwise until it is proven that he or she is a citizen, let alone a natural born one.
    Before a candidate becomes president, he or she is still a citizen. After a candidate becomes president, he or she is still a citizen. It really doesn’t matter if they are natural born or not for this exercise. All the rules of citizenship apply before inauguration as they do after, as no President is immune from the law of the Constitution with regards to citizenship. That being said, showing proof of citizenship by any candidate is the same as showing any proof of any president. They must follow the law of proof of citizenship to prove citizenship, let alone natural born citizenship.
    Logic says that the “President” must prove his or her citizenship the same way all other citizens do because we are all citizens according to Amendment XIV of the U.S. Constitution. Whenever the word “eligible”, “proof”, “provide”, or any similar legal term is found in the law, they all mean the same: a citizen must prove citizenship. We have now established we must all prove citizenship the same way. At the federal level, the authority for determining proof of citizenship is stated clearly in U.S. Code Title 8, Chapter 12, Subchapter III > Part II > § 1452 which states:
    Application to Attorney General for certificate of citizenship; proof; oath of allegiance
    A person who claims to have derived United States citizenship through the naturalization of a parent or through the naturalization or citizenship of a husband, or who is a citizen of the United States by virtue of the provisions of section 1993 of the United States Revised Statutes, or of section 1993 of the United States Revised Statutes, as amended by section 1 of the Act of May 24, 1934 (48 Stat. 797), or who is a citizen of the United States by virtue of the provisions of subsection (c), (d), (e), (g), or (i) of section 201 of the Nationality Act of 1940, as amended (54 Stat. 1138), or of the Act of May 7, 1934 (48 Stat. 667), or of paragraph (c), (d), (e), or (g) of section 1401 of this title, or under the provisions of the Act of August 4, 1937 (50 Stat. 558), or under the provisions of section 203 or 205 of the Nationality Act of 1940 (54 Stat. 1139), or under the provisions of section 1403 of this title, may apply to the Attorney General for a certificate of citizenship.

    So, that means any candidate or president must, at the very least, provide a Certificate of Citizenship from the Attorney General’s office. Did this occur in the case of any of the candidates in 2008? Was there ever any evidence from the Defendants in any of these cases that a Certificate of Citizenship from the Attorney General’s Office was on file? Is Factcheck.org or Fightthesmears.com the Attorney General’s Office?

    You now have the appropriate ammunition to take Factcheck.org, Fightthesmears.com, the DnC, and the RnC for failing to comply with this federal statute for proof of eligibility.

  172. oldsalt77: Thanks for your words of wisdom. When our judiciary is corrupt, what other recourse do we have but to fight back in the only way we know how…through the vote? Many people fear our votes will not count in the upcoming 2010 election and also in 2012, therefore, any precaution we can take we probably should take. Machines that can be programmed or manipulated should have paper trails. Hopefully, there will be Patriots manning the voting machines. Judge Land must take us for fools who will believe whatever he says because he is an Officer of the Court, but he is sadly mistaken IMHO. What goes around comes around; he will get his comeuppance; if not in this life, then in the next!

  173. Civis Naturaliter Natus


    If you read Rhode’s initial complaint, the charge of British Citizenship is made on p. 37…(see link from The Post & Email above, for cite)

    your accusation is false, sir, and I ask you to writhdraw it…

  174. DABIG,

    Have you seen the complaint of election fraud against Brian Schatz, Democrative Party of HI, to be filed with HI AG Bennett? Please, go to my site and read it, and let me know whether you will file it.

  175. Civis Naturaliter Natus

    What has happened to Orly’s blog…?

    The page says it does not exist…and her home page is a HTML mishmash…

  176. I emailed Orly just now with both those OIL comments. I also told her about the trouble getting to the “comments” section on the blog. I suppose the obots are at it again. We’re getting so close!!!

  177. Amy1
    Great! Worked for me!…………..damn you’re good!


  178. Civis Naturaliter Natus

    Got this “fix” from Amy1…. works great……..


  179. C.N.N.
    now the rest of the story!


    amy1 // September 16, 2009 at 9:50 pm

    RICHARD.. I went to orlys site too and got that. However, on the top. the http line, remove all after the .com/ and then click it. It is there but in a format such as Free Republic

  180. JJ // September 16, 2009 at 8:33 pm

    da verg // September 16, 2009 at 8:12 pm

    the civil suit…I’ve been thinking about this for months…why noone is pursuing it, beats me..a few dollars per plaintiff, seems simple enough.
    sounds do able—9/12 Project would have
    plenty of Patriots.

  181. Civis Naturaliter Natus

    Fernly girl et al.

    If you think that every Russian is a commie, you are woefully ignorant of what the Russian people suffered and how many resisted…

    Your comments are like implying that a Jew who survived Auschwitz might have been colluding with the guards.

    Without evidence your allegation, even if merely the assertion of a hypothetical, is, without evidence, a gross slander…

    Orly is Jewish; it only makes sense that Jews in Israel would want to hear from her…

  182. Civis Naturaliter Natus


    It seems that her site has been hacked, and someone changed the format for the database…

  183. twe // September 16, 2009 at 8:39 pm

    Yup, twe….moat is filled and the gators are even eating the weeds! Bless their little hearts…

  184. Also, in the above statute, you can also substitute the statute with a litany of other certificates required by other sources depending on the need, such as:

    1. Department of the Interior
    2. Secretary of State
    3. State Department

    The bottom line is there are specific guidelines for ensuring U.S. citizenship is certified. Only the Federal Government can certify that any citizen in the U.S. is a citizen, born or naturalized.

  185. Civis Naturaliter Natus

    RIGGLES, riggles, wherever you are…

    If you want to help out John, you need to email him, and he will contact CW, to request a confirmation of your identity…

  186. C.N.N.

    That’s my first impression too….. it’s been hacked but it’ll take a bit of time to figure out just how bad…she must have really hit a nerve this time

  187. Civis Naturaliter Natus


    The problem I see with that approach is that the judiciary sees its job, not as upholding the constitution per se, but as upholding enacted laws, which laws are supposed to uphold the constitution…

    So where there is no explicit law, the judges run like cowards…since they don’t believe the Constitution is the Supreme Law, merely a touchstone for compliance of existing laws…

  188. JeffM—
    File a suit following your logic.

  189. #

    Linda from NY // September 16, 2009 at 7:52 pm

    Michelle: Thanks for sharing the letter from the investigator. He obviously has more respect for Dr. Taitz than most in her profession do.

    Seems to me, it is easy to criticize when you have not “walked the walk”, eh?

    Michelle writes the truth here…..Orly is an honest and trustworthy person….trying to do the right thing for the country!

  190. Civis Naturaliter Natus


    Could it be that WordPress took away her account?

    She used to being using a WordPress CSS…now she seems not to be…

    I’m No expert, just guessing…

  191. SueK—do you really have the alligator moat?

    I have a few killer hummingbirds, but they’re
    migrating unfortunately.

  192. Richard I got the same 404 message and that never happened to me before. Go to search engine I was able to get a little something from there.

  193. God Bless Orly.
    my heart goes out to her tonight.

  194. Civis Naturaliter Natus

    Possible but I would question the timing… and motivation………….wish I wasn’t so paranoid…..
    My psychiatrist told me I was absolutely NOT paranoid…….. everyone IS out to get me….

  195. Civis Naturaliter Natus

    Leo has responded to a comment I just made at his site, pointing out that Orly did mention the British Citizenship issue in her pleadings; he says it was mentioned, but not so clearly, thus grounds for an appeal—evidently thinks that the Judge should have addressed it…

  196. Civis Naturaliter Natus


    I could be that her site is just getting overloaded in response to Land’s ruling…and that her webmaster is repairing while using a simpler template, to keep up with requests?

  197. Civis Naturaliter Natus

    It would be good for someone to set up an online letter petition, of well wishers for Captain Rhodes…she deserves it…

  198. maddie // September 16, 2009 at 10:14 pm

    Hi Maddie,

    Nope, just pulling twe’s leg.

    Your hummers are on their way up to Taxachusetts to keep my ‘gators company.

    With everything that’s gone on today, I’m just trying to take myself away for a little while with my own particular brand of nonsensical humor…

  199. Richard @ 10:18 PM.

    Your psychiatrist told you that your NOT paranoid, everyone IS out to get you.

    Hahahaaaaaaaaaaa 🙂 Good one-funny

  200. Civis Naturaliter Natus


    If you know things that have never been discussed here, and you have the discretion not to discuss them; mentioning that you know them is defamatory, and shows lack of professionalism…

    If you think every lawyer needs to have a perfect character, to get your support, you are seeking an altar to worship at, instead of a court advocate…

    That’s crazy…

  201. The South // September 16, 2009 at 7:51 pm

    Yes, there are facts. But what we DON’T know is WHAT those facts mean. Without legal interpretation, they are just gobbledygook.

    My other problem is that very little of this is new information. It has been widely available for years – at least I’ve known about it for years. I have never heard anyone reputable be alarmed about it.

    Either there is a massive coverup going back years or decades (i.e. a Conspiracy), or there is a tempest in a teapot here.

    I don’t know you, but until you started writing about this and 911, you made sense, now you don’t.

    I have always thought Carl Swenson was a looney tune. So anything he says does not inspire me.

    I repeat – can any one with acknowledged credentials and legal expertise to unwind this, please explain it to us.

  202. Maddie said:

    File a suit following your logic.”

    I should. There are only certain items that prove U.S. Citizenship, ones that are binding, legal documents:

    1. Birth certificate issued directly from the state the citizen was born in
    2. U.S Passport
    3. Certificate of Citizenship from the Secretary of State or U.S. Attorney General
    4. Naturalization Certificate

    That’s it. There are no other ways to prove citizenship in any court of law. None of these were supplied to the court, and none of these were provided to any legal authority. No court can verify Soetoro is a citizen, let alone a natural born citizen without one or more of the documents above.

    Therefore the following aren’t certificates for U.S. Citizenship:

    1. Photocopies of forms
    2. Ink doodles on napkins
    3. Low resolution scans of forms
    4. Affidavits from any government official other than the Secretary of State or U.S. Attorney General
    5. Affidavits or certifications of eligibility in any state
    6. Crayola drawings showing “I’m a U.S. Citizen”
    7. A note from mommy saying “I’m a U.S. Citizen”
    8. Me saying “I’m a U.S. Citizen”

    None of that matters because none of it is legal according to U.S. Code.

  203. Truth Exists (Paulajal)

    I not only believe Orly, but I believe that those who are turning on her are frightened. I have had legal cases where this happened, the closer we got to winning the more erratic clients and witnesses became. It’s an odd phenomenon. The one thing that is irreplaceable about Orly is her fearlessness. Even though I might write my pleadings differently{I have always been a stickler about having immaculate pleadings}, I am convinced that fearlessness has as its opposite side, rashness. Still, it appears that fearlessness is required to get anywhere with this debacle. So, we must overlook the rashness and simply try gently to nudge her in the right direction. She is certainly making headway.

  204. Civis Naturaliter Natus

    Great idea … she has gone thru more than she should have………..
    Also thought about the “site overload”….. we’ll probably know more tomorrow……

    Don’t have the resources to develop a petition…
    Will support the concept as best I can…

  205. Civis Naturaliter Natus


    Huffington speaks about Rhodes case…in their ususual tone…

  206. PS – most people find an “Obama Conspiracy” too big to handle. i.e. How could anything this big requiring so many people really happen.

    But Carl Swenson’s latest is Galactic in size compared to a Watermelon size Obama Conspiracy. I must say, that I cannot even fathom the possibility of a fraud THIS large.

    It is simply beyond the realm of the wildest science fiction for this to be true. An entire parallel government that superceds the constitutional government that has been in place for decades?

    I’m sorry – my brain just won’t go there.

  207. SueK—thanks. Sometimes we all have to just
    take ourselves away a bit to process this mess and to not get totally stressed out. I completely understand that.
    My hummers can visit your gators in Taxachusetts as long as you will consider them
    as “Migrant Workers” only and provide FULL
    healthcare vet benefits for all of them—with
    no questions asked or they will “beak” you
    with their razor sharp beakies. They have been hanging around ACORN building too long.

  208. Civis Naturaliter Natus


    I agree with your post about the Galatic issue…

    But this much is true, and its the the important kernel…

    The parties have so contrived the interpretation and implementation of the Constitution and law, that for all practical purposes it does work like the Corporation…Land’s ruling, I’d bet, was not written in private, he received faxes and emails and used what he was told to write to kick down anyone else who might dare to question…

    That’s really the same thing in the long run, though it is more reasonable to say it this way, I think…

  209. Jeff M —Crayola drawings showing “I’m a U.S. Citizen”
    My personal favorite.

  210. #

    Rocknee // September 16, 2009 at 9:07 pm

    Robert and anyone with email contact to Orly or her assistants, think she might could use this information provided by Jack.

    Rocknee…I already sent it to her!!! I’m sure she can use any and all suggestions!!

  211. Civis Naturaliter Natus


    When I opened the Huffington Post article, and your blog at the same time, the Huffington ate your code and kept it from displaying fully, esp. this comment box…had to close my browser and start over…

  212. maddie // September 16, 2009 at 10:31 pm

    OK, Maddie, I even have papers for them (wink, wink). My vet will be put on notice and paid a tidy sum.

    Enough has happened lately….I don’t need a sound beaking from these ACORN boids to add to it :).

  213. SueK–do your gators mow and mulch lawns, too? Do they aerate? Spread manure? I know, did you catch yourself some obot gators and put them to work! Wow, the strain on them must be terrific!

    Maddie–I think my hummers have gone back to Central America.

    SueK–really did have the hummers here, also orioles, catbirds, rose breasted grosbeaks, evening grosbeaks, red squirrels, etc this year as well; as well as deer, pheasants, marmots, one heron (or was that last year) and wild turkeys (none of these offered a nip!!–the wild turkeys, that is!); no bear here.

  214. Civis Naturaliter Natus

    If there is any patriot lawyer here

    who has experience in corporate fillings, contract law, etc., drop a note off to John Charlton, as he’s looking to incorporate…

  215. Wow! It looks like somebody has done something like a college paper on the number of peeps at 9/12 in DC:

  216. CNN Said:


    The problem I see with that approach is that the judiciary sees its job, not as upholding the constitution per se, but as upholding enacted laws, which laws are supposed to uphold the constitution…”

    That’s misleading. The judges are supposed to be upholding and interpreting the law, regardless of whether it’s the U.S. Constitution or not. This is not happening at the most basic levels.

    What we are seeing here are attorneys like Orly just not “getting it”. When the defendant’s attorneys or judges spew out “We posted it on the internet, therefore it is true”, she and any other plaintiff attorney must demand where in the U.S. code does it say a copy of a copy of a copy is a certificate of U.S. Citizenship. Get it on record, then let the legal world know that these judges are allowing this kind of crap slide in their court. Wouldn’t you want to know this as a lawyer?? I certainly would.

    Fight fire with fire. Imagine the amount of fun immigration attorneys would have with this. “Get Judge Land and tell him our illegal immigrant defendant Juan Gomez is citizen because a copy of a copy of his birth certificate is on the Internet and Land has already said in Cases xxx and yyy that this is AOK as legal proof.” Get the big headline up, one that we have only experienced twice in the last year:


  217. http://www.anthrobase.com/Txt/T/Trier_T_01.htm
    The dramatic political and economic changes leading to the collapse of the Soviet Union have had a considerable impact on the identities of the people inhabiting the once almighty and omnipotent Red Empire. Changes have been especially dramatic for the Jewish diasporas of the former Soviet Union (FSU). Gorbachev’s policies of “glasnost” and “perestroika” and the subsequent breakdown of communism triggered a mass emigration among Jews since the end of 1988, and in the intervening period more than 700,000 Jews have left the Former Soviet Union in what I will refer to as the “fourth wave” of emigration (see note 1).
    This may be the reason why Dr. Orly is in the United States-our Catholic church is across from Synagogue. Rabbi had a gigantic sign “NEVER AGAIN IS NOW”. The Jewish people were trying to get as many Jewish people out of Russia as they could fearing a rising tide of anti-Semitism, from Russia to Israel to United States and/or other countries. Here in Florida we have a lot of emigres from those two countries. Love it. Really good deli, and bakeries, and people like Orly-many talented and hard working people with many different disciplines-the sciences, investors etc.

  218. Heard on radio today a university, maybe Indiana, has a gizmo that can look at a photo and calculate the number of peoples there. It estimated 9/12 to be 1.8 million.

  219. I have a note from U.S. Justice Clay Land that says the online copy of my Birth Certificate is OK to get a car loan and a passport.


  220. Someone ought to put a colb of the Judge on the net

  221. Rocknee,

    That would be easy and he couldn’t contest its validity in his own court! LOL!

  222. Anyone have a copy of a 1960’s era Louisiana Birth Certificate?

  223. twe-Memo to the press:
    While you’re beating the race card to death and most people aren’t falling for it you missed a couple of really big stories.
    9/12 March on Washington, DC. over 2 million protesters of an insane government.
    ACORN-no surprise here. Under-cover reporters have found wide open graft, crime, corruption, collusion involving at last count 4 ACORN offices with more revelations to come.
    Orly Taitz and other lawyers on behalf of their clients trying to resolve still unanswered questions re: Obama’s documentation proving citizenship of guess a country. Obama the guy who does not LIE, that promised the most transparent administration still has not submitted birth, school records, I don’t think he has submitted anything.
    I wonder how many other stories you are missing while you still are trying to play the race card, but that’s ok 2 twenty year olds broke the ACORN corruption scandal and their budget was $3,000.00. Now don’t you feel stupid if you don’t you should.

  224. #

    JeffM // September 16, 2009 at 10:54 pm

    CNN Said:


    The problem I see with that approach is that the judiciary sees its job, not as upholding the constitution per se, but as upholding enacted laws, which laws are supposed to uphold the constitution…”

    That’s misleading. The judges are supposed to be upholding and interpreting the law, regardless of whether it’s the U.S. Constitution or not. This is not happening at the most basic levels.

    What we are seeing here are attorneys like Orly just not “getting it”. When the defendant’s attorneys or judges spew out “We posted it on the internet, therefore it is true”, she and any other plaintiff attorney must demand where in the U.S. code does it say a copy of a copy of a copy is a certificate of U.S. Citizenship. Get it on record, then let the legal world know that these judges are allowing this kind of crap slide in their court. Wouldn’t you want to know this as a lawyer?? I certainly would.

    Fight fire with fire. Imagine the amount of fun immigration attorneys would have with this. “Get Judge Land and tell him our illegal immigrant defendant Juan Gomez is citizen because a copy of a copy of his birth certificate is on the Internet and Land has already said in Cases xxx and yyy that this is AOK as legal proof.” Get the big headline up, one that we have only experienced twice in the last year:


    Jeff….you seem to know so much….could you not file a law suit and represent yourself…..I think you would do a great job!!

  225. Those voting against stopping govt ACORN funding…and the money they’ve received from SEIU:


  226. Carlyle.

    Sorry your intellect will not allow you to fathom the possibility, that a conspiracy to enslave a nation has indeed taken place since the early establishment of our nation.

    Sounds like you have up your mind, or perhaps a better word would be … closed your mind.

    It has happened, and the proof is there, on paper, for all to see who will “open their eyes and use them for what they were meant” …. to see.

    Just because you don’t believe it, doesn’t mean it is not true.

    Perhaps you should watch this video.

    16 minutes of evidence

    Please take notes my friend.

  227. Rocknee and JeffM,

    Great idea! Birth Certificate Hall of Fame and also include names of congress critters in the same Obama/COLB digitized format.

    The FORGE aHEAD Project.

    lol !!!

  228. Should have said: Sounds like you “have made up your mind”

  229. Joan of Arc-Orly get compared to her a lot

    Music is beautiful and healing.

  230. Jacqlyn Smith,

    Thanks! I would love to but I think my job would be better suited to creating an entire case called POTUS Law for Dummies and publishing it to anyone who wants to file a case on their own, all free of course.

    It would have sections like “Action vs. Counter Action” which would anticipate every scenario and beat the judges and defendants at their own game. Have a judge who says the online COLB is OK evidence? Use the handy included COLB generator and demand your own COLB online stating you were born in Hawaii be admitted as evidence.

  231. Interview of Burris on supporting ACORN:

  232. The South, Carlyle, everyone, have you been to this site, very user friendly, comparison of original (organic) Constitution vs the corporate system that is going on now: http://www.usavsus.info/

  233. CNN, She replied eloquently. Now if y’all wanna see real racism, just read the comments at the article CNN just posted. Mirror Mirror on the wall, who’s the most hypocritical ones of all…LIBERALS.

  234. Kim.

    Yes, I have seen that site. It is very telling. I know it’s hard for many to absorb (our own gov’t would do this to us?), but it is true.

    There is no Government, it is a Corporation, and it is by design!

    That was the only way they could subvert the true Constitution that the Founders wrote.

    As they died off, the bankers moved in, and no one else had the mettle to stop them.

  235. CW

    Sounds like a greeat idea. *Birth Certificate Hall Of Shame.*

  236. JeffM-“Have a judge who says the online COLB is OK evidence” to expand on your theory let’s just replace the whole judicial system with online judges. Think of the money the taxpayers could save? Not doing their jobs anyway.

  237. JeffM “I have a note from U.S. Justice Clay Land that says the online copy of my Birth Certificate is OK to get a car loan and a passport.


    Jeff, Are you serious?? Is this a joke? Just got my passport last winter and this is a bold faced lie! Oh the hoops and dealing with wards..oh um, I mean workers of the State with faces that could eat oats outta a gas pipe! My husband had to hand over his ORIGINAL certificate with his little footprints on it to have it just thrown into a folder to be sent somewhere to BE INSPECTED. He was devastated and worried he wouldn’t get it back. He’s quite sentimental. And I had to send my proof away also to be INSPECTED. NO THEY DO NOT ACCEPT COMPUTER IMAGES.

    When my husband asked her if it was really necessary to give up his certificate(he was really afraid of not getting it back). She said there’s no other way. Then I turned to my husband and said “yeah, you gotta be Obama to get away with that!” Then came the “evil eye” from the warden…oops, i goofed again…the State worker.

  238. JeffM,,

    We already got on line jurors

  239. Sue K-twe His 1,798,750 mine 2 million. I stuck by number and I was right. I knew this could be proved mathematically, but not by me-not a wonk
    at least with numbers.

  240. I don’t want to shock anybody but they have been unhinged for awhile. DNC first disaster mistake was running Obama another fine graduate of that cesspool of corruption Cook County, Illinois. If they didn’t know he was corrupt to the core, then they are pretty darn stupid.
    When the Left starts to go full-metal unhinged, you know we’re winning
    Let Our People Go!

  241. twe // September 16, 2009 at 10:45 pm

    I’m breaking them in, twe. The possibilities are endless! I would say that it’s a definite *yes* as far as aerating and manure spreading and they are indeed Obot gators…I’m keeping them as slave labor. ACORN says it’s OK.

    A ton of critters in my back yard, too! I feed the skunks because my neighbor’s a hateful person and I do it just to get his goat (BTW, I have no goats, here). Watch the wild turkeys…they can be nasty when drunk.

  242. Posted on youtube … Part 1 of a series of 5 videos. If you want to check it out and look at the others as well. Very interesting ..

  243. Michelle // September 16, 2009 at 11:41 pm

    Michelle, I figured around 1.8M. I counted heads and signs…the ‘scientific method.’

    I can’t remember the last time I was that proud!

    Regarding corrupt judges, let’s just bring in Judge Judy…she’ll put a stop to all this crap.

    twe…run, Burris, run! 🙂

  244. I believe that is Jerome Corisi in the above video. This must be the WND story … just posted today ..

  245. Part 2 … very interesting. I won’t post the others.. but they are over at youtube. Follow this link ..

  246. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/low/americas/626542.stm
    and sometimes corruption in the legal system leads to death. That is why we need a non-corrupt legal system all the way through.
    Illinois has become the first state in the United States to declare a temporary halt to executions while it reviews its death penalty procedures.
    Republican Governor George Ryan announced a moratorium on executions on Monday, saying he wanted to know why more death sentences had been overturned in Illinois than carried out.
    There have also been newspaper revelations that some death row inmates were defended by lawyers who were later suspended, and that other convictions were obtained through the questionable testimony of informants.
    ‘Grave concerns’
    Governor Ryan said: “I now favour a moratorium, because I have grave concerns about our state’s shameful record of convicting innocent people and putting them on death row.”
    I can’t support a system which in its administration has proven to be so fraught with error that it has come so close to the ultimate nightmare: The state’s taking of innocent life
    Governor George Ryan
    Illinois has released 13 prisoners who were sentenced to die, outnumbering the 12 convicted killers executed by lethal injection since the state reinstated the death penalty in 1977.
    The 13 men freed were exonerated either through DNA evidence, witnesses who recanted or independent investigations.
    In one high-profile case, a man spent 15 years on death row – once coming within two days of being executed – before a college journalism class proved his innocence.
    “That’s 13 mistakes, 13 mistakes that we know of,” Ryan told a news conference. “I can’t support a system which in its administration has proven to be so fraught with error that it has come so close to the ultimate nightmare: The state’s taking of innocent life.”
    Governor Ryan’s decision made Illinois the first of the 38 states with capital punishment to halt all executions while it reviews its death penalty procedures.
    Investigating panel
    He said he would halt all executions until a panel could report back to him about the status of the state justice system’s handling of capital cases.
    The panel’s draft report last autumn called for a more thorough evidence discovery process and the creation of a “capital bar” of specially trained attorneys to represent defendants and prosecute death penalty cases.
    Governor Ryan said he was convinced to act by statistics from a recent Chicago Tribune series on Illinois’ handling of capital cases that showed 33 death row inmates were defended by attorneys who were later disbarred or suspended, and that 46 convictions were obtained through the testimony of jailhouse informants.
    The newspaper series and the attention brought by the exonerations led the Illinois Supreme Court to appoint a 17-judge panel to examine ways to improve the system.
    Death row statistics
    According to statistics provided by the Death Penalty Information Centre, Illinois has 161 inmates on death row, ranking it eighth among the states.
    It has executed 12 of the 610 people put to death in the United States since 1976, ranking it 13th, well behind the 206 executions in Texas.
    Other states said to be considering legislation that would temporarily halt executions include Pennsylvania, Washington, New Jersey and Maryland

  247. Video: Racist bigot Sonya Sotomayor mambos with Esai Morales

    Supreme Court Justice Sonia Sotomayor does the Mambo with actor Esai Morales at The National Hispanic Foundation for the Arts (NHFA) annual gala celebrating Noche Musicál at the Corcoran Gallery of Art in Washington DC. Sept. 15, 2009. Credit Washington Life TV

  248. Witness Who Knew About Obama’s Citizenship Info Murdered in Gangland-style “Hit”


  249. Under fire, Napolitano halts projects for review

    WASHINGTON (AP) – Facing criticism for her handling of federal stimulus money, Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano said Wednesday that she would not start any new border construction projects while the department reviewed how projects were selected.


  250. Anyone heard from Orly her site looks like it was hacked.

  251. This just proves that the only way to plead this case is by filing a quo warranto in DC district court based on the fact that BO himself admits to being a dual citizen at birth on his own website.
    Forget everything else, and plead the facts only. Donofrio has had it right from the beginning…McCain, Obama and Calero were ineligible and he brought a non partisan suit against all three.

  252. SueK-I love Judge Judy Ummm is not an answer. Obama would be a mess in her court.
    “Judge Judy…she’ll put a stop to all this crap.”

  253. The “Let My People Go” article was good. We have to be sure that the Giants we see walking around in OUR land do not intimidate us either.

    I liked how the writer put “The Obama Corp” along with ACORN. I’m going to start putting those together every time I mention “ACORN, the Obama Corp.”

  254. Richard ty. I sent email to orly about her site being down or hacked. Have not heard back from her yet

  255. ticktock
    As you can see Obama and Acorn have been together for quite awhile.
    In 1992, Acorn hired Mr. Obama to run a voter registration effort. He later became a trainer for the group, as well as its lawyer in election law cases. Acorn’s political arm has endorsed Mr. Obama while its ‘voter education’ arm has pledged to spend $35 million …In 1992, Acorn hired Mr. Obama to run a voter registration effort. He later became a trainer for the group, as well as its lawyer in election law cases. Acorn’s political arm has endorsed Mr. Obama while its ‘voter education’ arm has pledged to spend $35 million to register people this fall — despite a history of vote fraud scandals that have led to guilty pleas by many Acorn employees.”

  256. C.N.D.E. Ville II

    Judge Land, Sir: Re: Captain Rhodes

    I think you did not clearly see the incredibly crucial issues present in your, or rather, we-the-people’s, courtroom.

    Of course, Mr. Obama is not legally the president. By his own admission, he did not have two American parents.
    The Constitution explicitly and implicitly requires the U.S. President to be American born, of American parents. THAT is the law.

    Where does that leave Captain Rhodes and other military folk?

    Keeping the military oath and obeying an unlawful order issued by an unlawful CinC are mutually exclusive options.

    What if the CinC is ineligible? What if, a military commander, or even the CinC, is an embedded enemy of our state? What if communicating or obeying unlawful orders results in subsequent charges of treason?

    The questions are timely, relevant, sensible, and appropriate. The questions demand answers.

    (In fact, the Supreme Court has already considered the outcomes of an ineligible president. A pertinent ruling stipulates that the removal of an ineligible president results in the nullification of all of his/her enactments.)

    Captain Rhodes has a right to those answers.

    Indeed, EVERY military person intrinsically bears the unimpeachable right to resolve any question that arises about whether or not the person giving them orders is legally and Constitutionally eligible to do so.

    The duty to ask the eligibility questions should not devolve to Captain Rhodes.

    However, the appalling and abject abdication of duty by those vested with that responsibility has resulted in citizens’ grassroots efforts to rectify the problem.

    Hence, Captain Rhodes and Dr. Orly appeared in your courtroom, with anything but frivolity in mind, to obtain the justice DUE Captain Rhodes, justice which the authority of the Constitution guarantees to her. Oh yes. We of the Fourth Branch are entitled to know that our president is eligible, a right the Court has no standing to deny.

    Yet, you chose, by your ruling, to disregard the Constitution. You opted out of upholding the simple right of a sincere and loyal American doctor who selflessly serves her country under the most extreme conditions.

    Ah, what a squandered opportunity.

    The fact that Mr. Obama is operating as an unlawful, ineligible president will not go away. The dilemma facing our military folk is sill excruciatingly real. The intense importance of the questions at hand will not diminish merely because you did not, could not, would not discern the issues.

    You dismissed the case, but America has the victory. Your ruling did not, will not, cannot defeat the Constitution.

    America’s victory lies in the fact that Captain Rhodes and Dr. Orly stood boldly in your courtroom, believing the Constitution, amidst the storm of tyrannical injustice battering our land. America’s victory lies in the truth that Captain Rhodes and Dr. Taitz and millions of patriots are rooted in freedom and independence, confident of our sovereign right to grant or withhold our consent to be governed by those in leadership positions. Neither the Executive Branch, nor the Legislative Branch, nor the Judicial Branch, nor the media can revoke the rights of American patriots. On the contrary, American patriots are even now rising up and taking back our land. Live free or die.

    There. Just had to get this out of my system. I think you Patriots are all beyond wonderful. Thank you for “getting it.”

  257. LM // September 16, 2009 at 11:56 pm

    Wow, LM, that’s dignified for a SCOTUS justice, eh?

    Can you imagine Sandra Day O’Connor or Ruth Bader (Woo Woo) Ginsberg pulling something like that?

    Maybe old Sotocracker should go back to the Bronx if she wants to shake a tail feather…

  258. Next Protest Marches.

    Front of George Soros House.

    Front of Judge Land Court and possibly his house.

  259. TO:
    Civis Naturaliter Natus // September 16, 2009 at 10:46 pm

    If there is any patriot lawyer here

    who has experience in corporate fillings, contract law, etc., drop a note off to John Charlton, as he’s looking to incorporate…

    I would suggest Legal Zoom.com or Nevada Incorporation the cheap way to incorporate there is no need to pay lots of money. You can even ask Larry Sinclair how he did it in Florida.
    I would suggest Nevada or Maryland.

  260. CNN,
    The point I was trying to make was simple. Blind faith got us to where we are today. We don’t know who is on which side. We only look at words and images on a monitor, and then pick sides. It was merely a caution that things may not be what they seem…I only used Taitz to make everyone stop and think, because she is a “hot topic”. Reread the end of my post.

  261. Orly’s husband is CEO of a software company that is very involved with Novartis, manufacturer of H1N1 vaccine. That association is troubling to me…

  262. The South // September 16, 2009 at 11:15 pm

    Until you or Carl or me or anyone else can even begin to have a reasonable discussion on the subject of the United States Corporation, you must THOROUGHLY understand the formal concept of “legal fiction”. A very meager introduction can be read on wikipedia.

    Are you a lawyer? Have you even been to law school or read or studied any law at all? No, I didn’t think so.

    Until you totally understand this, you are not sufficiently versed to even comprehend what you are reading, let alone evangelizing this concept.

    Again – I am open minded to know that – at a minimum – some have misused and/or corrupted these laws against us. I can accept that. I am also open minded enough to give a wee bit of the benefit of the doubt in requesting an expert to explain this whole “corporation” and “parallel governments” mess to us. In the meantime, I am totally uninterested in amatuer opinions. This requires professional analysis.

    Yes – I know you are perfectly capable of reading plain english, as am I. My point is not that you are stupid – but that you have stumbled onto some legal arcana that is not understandable by the unitiated. Personally, I only know enough about the concept of Legal Fictions to understand that there is possibly a perfectly benign explanation to all of this.

    I am again requesting a legal authority to weigh in here. We ‘mere mortals’ are out of our depth, I fear. Please! Somebody!

    Finally, I fear that you are conflating several things.

    1. I believe that the bankers have screwed us and that the FED is up to no good.

    2. I believe that there are unconstitutional executive orders, and outstanding declarations of emergency that change the rules or attempt to change the rules.

    3. I believe that most courts and most legal scholars spend more time agonizing over precedents and USSC rulings than they do over the actual constitution. Correspondingly ‘constitutional law’ now seems to be a study of cases, rather than a study of the constitution.

    4. I believe that many if not most of what the Federal government is doing is unconstitutional. I believe the constitution has been polluted and diluted with amendments and (mis)interpretations.

    I just don’t believe that “the corporation” has anything to do with it and that what we are now seeing is a gradual erosion and leftist momentum, not a grand plan laid out decades before now.

  263. File one of these lawsuits in Texas in aConservative District.
    Bring in Dr Polarik and Lines as expert witnesses that Fraud and Forgery happned to STEAL THE VOTES OF THE PEOPLE and teh PRESIDENCY.

    Make it simple and stick to one issue.

    Most Judges can only hadnle one issue at a time “baby steps”. Throwing everythig in teh Lawsuits and Hoping something sticks is not going to fly in court. Save that for the Media and getting people to learn about the issue.

    Maybe get a determination of the SS# from SS Administration and get the whole file on it.
    Maybe track down who it originally belonged to and the family can file suit for Identity Theft.

  264. TO:
    Kim // September 17, 2009 at 1:27 am

    Orly’s husband is CEO of a software company that is very involved with Novartis, manufacturer of H1N1 vaccine. That association is troubling to me…

    So he sells software to some company what does that have to do with anythign with Mexican Flu?

    As a matter fo fact Orly was one of the first ones, as fas as I know to sound the alarm on “tainted” vaccines. She is not in the business of sellign vaccines neither is her husband.

  265. Orly, needs to assemble a Dream Team, with maybe Dr Edwin Vieira and maybe a Conservative Retired Federal Judge.

  266. Carlyle,
    Maybe Judge Napolitano can bring some light to the US as corporation issue. He has a site at
    judgenap dot com, with contact information.

  267. Carlyle.

    Never depend on Wikipedia for anything!

    Joyce Rosenwald has been studying this for 45 years, and Bob Bickel has been studying this for many years, as Rod Class has, as well.

    Steve Pidgeon, a very qualified attorney, has jumped on this wagon as well (why might that be?)

    These people are on to something, as is evident in the video I posted above.

    16 minutes of evidence

    Stick you fingers in your ears, cover your eyes, gag yourself, whatever you do, to make yourself feel better…. See no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil.

    The truth is there, for anyone to see. I won’t try to convince you, as I see you’ve already made up your mind.

    Carl, Bob, Joyce, Rod, Steve Pidgeon, are not idiots; these are very well educated individuals, and if you’ve heard their seminars, you would know this to be true.

    So, stuff your head in the pillow, and pretend it isn’t so. If that helps you sleep at night, I’m all for it!

    Perhaps, instead of me proving it’s so, maybe you could prove…

    *********** IT IS NOT *******************

    Maybe you would be so kind as to post the evidence you have, that proves we have not been reduced to slaves by the elite bankers, who own the Federal Reserve.

    I can’t wait to see your evidence!

    Please prove to us, that we have NOT been enslaved by Federal Reserve Bankers, and forced to pay an income tax, against the wishes of the Founding Fathers.

    Now the burden of proof lays on you Carlyle.

    Can you prove I’m a whacko? Can you prove that Carl, Joyce, Rod, Bob, Steve, are crazy, right wing zealots, that are caught up in conspiracy theories?

    I’ve posted TONS of evidence on this blog to the contrary.

    Now it’s your turn to post my friend, it is your turn…..don’t let us down!!

  268. Sorry, but I question everything these days.

  269. Orly Blog’s works:
    It didn’t the first time, so I deleted the word “Blog” in the browser and it works.

    CW -Excellent writing! I have to read again and good feedback.

  270. I would like to see Orly play in court this WRIF Detroit radio interview of Kenyan Ambassador Peter N.R.O. Ogego. That’s the interview that took place the morning after the 2008 election. Ogego inadvertently declared that BO Jr. was born in Kenya.

    Ogego backtracked afterward and said he was talking about BO Sr., but HOW OLD would that make BO’s paternal grandmother?!!

  271. Kim,

    That’s the best attitude to maintain. Trust no one. But understand that everyone and everything serve a purpose. Follow the path that makes logical, legal, and ethical sense.

    Today’s court hearing wasn’t about money, politics, or anything else. Don’t worry about the who. Worry about the why. Why would someone risk their career, money, and a possible court martial over this? How is this political.

    “Judge” Land has rocks for brains and no ethics whatsoever. And the fact the Military wouldn’t allow Rhodes to leave her post to get a simple answer to a simple question speaks volumes as to the Department of OFFENSE.

    There you have it. The circle is complete:

    1. The DoO (i.e. military) is complicit
    2. The DoIJ is complicit
    3. CONgrass is complicit
    4. The FBI is complicit
    5. The CIA is complicit
    6. The DHiS is complict

    What did I leave out? How about NOBODY IMPORTANT in the usurping federal government. Anyone see the big picture now? This isn’t just one branch acting up. This is the entire mainstream tyrannical force. Millions may march on Washington but that won’t cleanse the absolute filth we’re seeing right now.

    Buckle up, speak louder, and demand the corruption be STOPPED. If all else fails:

    Lock and Load.

  272. #

    JeffM // September 16, 2009 at 11:22 pm

    Jacqlyn Smith,

    Thanks! I would love to but I think my job would be better suited to creating an entire case called POTUS Law for Dummies and publishing it to anyone who wants to file a case on their own, all free of course.

    It would have sections like “Action vs. Counter Action” which would anticipate every scenario and beat the judges and defendants at their own game. Have a judge who says the online COLB is OK evidence? Use the handy included COLB generator and demand your own COLB online stating you were born in Hawaii be admitted as evidence.

    You are welcome….but I was being serious!

  273. Thanks to an HTML glitch, only a portion of my post (at September 17, 2009 at 2:21 am) got off the launch pad. I’ll try again.

    –  –  –  –  –  –

    I would like to see Orly play in court this WRIF Detroit radio interview of Kenyan Ambassador Peter N.R.O. Ogego. That’s the interview that took place the morning after the 2008 election. Ogego inadvertently declared that BO Jr. was born in Kenya.

    Ogego backtracked afterward and said he was talking about BO Sr., but HOW OLD would that make BO’s paternal grandmother?!!

    The condemning part begins at the Audio MP3 player’s 12:39 marker:


    For an approximate transcript, see, below the player, the WND article by Chelsea Schilling.

    Schilling’s followup article, reporting Ogego’s subsequent denial, is at

    What could happen if we all emailed the interview’s link to every judge, senator, House rep, governor, state rep, et alii?

    What might Jake Tapper do with it?

    If the constitutionless halls of injustice won’t touch the case, let’s air it in the court of public opinion.

  274. JeffM.

    You are correct my friend. Lock and Load!

    Just like Joyce Rosenwald said in an interview; the only remedy is at the end of a barrel.

    I don’t condone violence, but for crying out loud, how do you get the so called Gov’t to listen to you?

    535 members of Congress (destroying the country)

    400 Million Americans (trying to defend the country and the constitution)

    2 Million people march on Washington D.C. 9/12/09, and what does the White House have to say?

    Those crazy people don’t reflect the mainstream of Americans……they’re right wing idiots.

    Now I understand what the Founders went through, as they tried to work things out with King George.

    Time, and time, and time again, they begged, pleaded, sued, asked, begged, and no one would listen.

    They had no other alternative.

    Not saying we are there yet, but it’s not looking good from where I’m sitting.

  275. #

    Michelle // September 17, 2009 at 12:12 am

    SueK-I love Judge Judy Ummm is not an answer. Obama would be a mess in her court.
    “Judge Judy…she’ll put a stop to all this crap.”

    Unfortunately….Judge Judy is another Kool-aid drinker…..I heard her on Larry King one night just rave about the FRAUD in our house…..I don’t think much of her….she is just as arrogant as he is!!!

  276. The South,

    You are so correct. We have so much dissention in the ranks it’s going to be next to impossible to correct it without use of force.

    The only hope we have is that they get some brains and turn the ship. I just don’t see that happening, let alone happening soon.

    There is a point of no return. That point is when the government refuses to listen to the people not on 1 or 2 major issues, but 100’s. Let’s look at these items and think about where they stand:

    1. The debt
    2. Illegals
    3. Hyperinflation
    4. Bailouts
    5. Nationalization of healthcare
    6. Nationalization of banks
    7. Nationalization of private industries
    8. Massive fraud, i.e. ACORN
    9. Unemployment
    10. Terrorism
    11. The Constitution
    12. Swine flu
    13. Election fraud
    14. Indoctrination of children
    15. Hypertaxation
    16. The fight over state sovereignty
    17. Volatile stock market
    18. Housing market

    The list goes on and on. No matter how anybody feels about these issues, they are getting much much worse and the tyrannical nitwits aren’t doing a damned thing about it. And they certainly don’t want to hear the massive blowback they are getting from 50+ million patriots in this country. We have 1/5th of the nation’s adults who feel they are being severely violated. Just when we pray things will get better, we continue to plunge into the depths of tyranny.

    That’s a recipe for full, unadulterated Revolutionary War right there.

  277. #

    Kim // September 17, 2009 at 1:27 am

    Orly’s husband is CEO of a software company that is very involved with Novartis, manufacturer of H1N1 vaccine. That association is troubling to me…

    Kim….check with Orly….but I think what you wrote above here is a rumor….lots of false stuff being printed to smear Orly and her family!!! I think she said this wasn’t true!

  278. To da verg (September 16, 2009 at 8:12 pm):

    The best — and hotly caring — constitutional lawyer I can think of is Edwin Vieira.


    See, especially, Vieira’s “Obama Must Stand Up Now or Step Down 10-29-08”

  279. And let me cap off the evening by saying this:

    Corruption is like automotive rust. If it takes over too much of the body, the only way to kill it is to crush the car.

  280. Kim (September 17, 2009 at 1:27 am) said:

    “Orly’s husband is CEO of a software company that is very involved with Novartis, manufacturer of H1N1 vaccine. That association is troubling to me…”

    Kim, Orly addressed that rumor, among several, yesterday morning:

    === Lastly, there was a vicious rumor that my husband is somehow connected with swine flu and swine flu vaccine. Again, ridiculous rumor.

    My husband studied computer science and business. He never studied pharmacology, doesn’t know pharmacology and wouldn’t know the difference between a virus and an elephant. He is a CEO of a company that produces a software, which is a tool used in research. It is used by many universities in the country. It is used in agriculture research, in chemical research, in any research that deals with molecules and computation of properties of molecules, that are being synthesised. There are millions and millions of molecules in the world. New ones are being synthesised every day, my husband has no clue what different companies are doing in their research. It is similar to any other software that is used as a tool. There is an accounting software, quicken. A computer engineer, who invented this software didn’t become your accountant, didn’t enter the information in your tax returns. Microsoft Word or Word Perfect is used by many writers, but it didn’t make Microsoft a poet or a comedian or a screen writer. Microsoft Word or Word Perfect is just a tool. I hope I explained this point and wouldn’t have to go to it again. ===

    To read Orly’s entire piece, you may need to go to this URL:


    Her usual URL (orlytaitzesq.com/blog1/) has been saying “PAGE NOT FOUND.”

  281. Sign the Petition!

    Tell Boxer to repudiate ACORN


  282. http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSTRE58E6NZ20090917

    Yes there is the concern of mutations of increasing virulence, but so far this is what we have. A virus no more lethal than the seasonal flu.

  283. SueK–Glad you are putting those obot gators to work. Feeding skunks? No thanks. Not for me. They do come around, though. Probably escaping from your place. I’ll send them back to you. Are they obot skunks as well?

    Re the Sotomayor dance: That was very, very mild for many Latin dances. That may be the best she can do. She was a good sport to get up and dance when all the cameras were on her, considering her new position. I thought we were going to get something really sensational. Ho-hum.

  284. Cartoons a-comin’

  285. This is my concern … something is going to happen to cause the ROTUS to enact Martial law and shut down the internet.


  286. JeffM

    I have access to a Louisiana BC in the 60’s. For what purpose are you requesting it?

  287. JeffM

    Sorry, I’m wrong. Just as I sent the previous post, I realized it was from 1948. However, there are later copies of it…different formats.

  288. Watching “Mornin’ Joe on MSNBC(More$hitNothingButCrap) and Rick Stengel of Time Mag. showed up with Glenn Beck’s picture on the new edition of Time Mag. The title “MAD MAN”

    PS – I don’t watch this show because I like it. Someone has to keep their eyes on the enemy!

    I think it is time for all of us to really get mad.

  289. Pelosi: I’m clueless about cash cut-off

    WASHINGTON — House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said yesterday she is clueless about an amendment to prohibit government funds for embattled ACORN, although it overwhelmingly passed the Senate Monday and the White House is calling for the group to be held accountable.

    “I don’t even know what they passed,” Pelosi told The Post yesterday. “What did they do? They defunded it?”


  290. Venice, I agree with you on the severity of the piggy flu.

    My husband was in the doctor’s lounge the other day at lunch….conversation at table was had about a close relative of a local surgeon who works as a virologist for the CDC and is working on THIS bug. NO WAY he would take the vaccine. Enough said.

  291. I knew all along BHO knew he wasn’t eligible and this kind of seals it.


  292. Glenn Beck on air now online.

    Listen Here:


    Everyone have a good day. I’m off to work/slave where I’ll be a SLAVE 50% of the time to give to the Pimps and Prsotitutes for Obamaliar and his COMMUNISTS.

  293. GreggGoss, a comment found on comment page


    Anonymous said…

    I can tell you why Herlihy was worried about natural born. Her boss.

    McCain Justice Advisory Committee
    Christopher Landau – Partner, Kirkland & Ellis LLP

  294. Last one before I go.


    LM // September 17, 2009 at 9:16 am

    Pelosi: I’m clueless about cash cut-off

    WASHINGTON — House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said yesterday she is clueless about an amendment to prohibit government funds for embattled ACORN, although it overwhelmingly passed the Senate Monday and the White House is calling for the group to be held accountable.

    “I don’t even know what they passed,” Pelosi told The Post yesterday. “What did they do? They defunded it?”


    Notice something else?
    NOW The Erosionist “Political Pimps & Prostitutes” don’t Proudly mention ACORN any more Now they just say “it”. Psssssssssssss keep it quiet, very very quiet.

    Shove ACORN and it’s “Political Pimps & Prostitutes” down the Squirrel Hole.

  295. So is Obummer going to do a Martin Luther King, Jr. speech tour this weekend? Originally to be about HealthCare, but pretty sure race will be brought into it. I hear he’s hitting all the Cable News Networks … except FOX. So we all need to tune into FOX, TiVo, etc… let’s show that to be the highest rated show that day and the only one not showing his ” I am The One” tour.

  296. National Education Foundation forcing teachers to fund ACORN through NEA union dues:


  297. I know this isn’t New news … but we have to concentrate on the youth. Look who it was to break the Acorn Story … 20 and 25 year old conservatives. Yea, can you believe you can say conservative with that age group? I know last year I can a terrible time trying to discuss politics with my 22 year old. we just couldn’t go there without am argument. I didn’t stress too much because I knew he would be out of town and wasn’t able to vote! LOL! … True!

    But we have to start now. I am so proud when I talk to the young and they tell me they are a part of the Young Republicans. I always give them a high five! ( and I’m a registered Dem )
    They are going to play a very big part on the future of our government. Start talking to them now.
    Now my 22 year old and I can have a civil conversation. I understand what he was telling me … Mom, it’s all about the banking Industry – and now he understands what I was telling him … Son, it’s about The Constitution !!

    We were both right!

  298. Richard @ 10:18: hehe…Barry’s shrink told him “you’re in denial”…of course his answer was,
    “I AM NOT!!”…lol….

  299. Truth @ 10:28: I like your comment…it reads like it’s right out of the script for the movie “Working Girl”…a great movie, IMHO; and the ‘kudos & grace’ she is applauded…as having “Gump-shun” (my word-spin)…
    which leads to victory.

  300. Brown shirts still have Orly under attack……….copied this from facebook.

    ” when I “bing’d” her, I get this: President Obama is a U.S. Citizen. See the Original Birth Certificate. http://www.FightTheSmears.com .

    Still no replies from anywhere…….

  301. Happy Constitution Day! The 222nd Anniversary!
    Posted September 17th, 2009 by Jon Kirkpatrick


    I’d like to thank all the men and women who have sacrificed their lives for the freedom of man and the willingness to stand for whats right. We have not forgotten!

  302. Truth Exists (Paulajal)

    Thanks Re-do, she does have gump-shun!

  303. BLAGO SPEAKS OUT. Newsmax article on recent death of friend in Blago’s case. Interesting read.


  304. From Orlys’ Blog today:

    Please don’t listen to vicious rumors
    September 16th, 2009
    I am getting close to removing the usurper and there are more and more vicious rumors about me and my whole family. It is 5:30 in the morning and I had to cut on sleep yet again to take some time and debunk all those vicious rumors.

    First, there was a rumor that there is a a declaration by Larry Sinclair filed with court. Please, go on Pacer, it is a public record. There is nothing there, no such declaration. People need to understand that a person cannot just come from the street and file a declaration or an affidavit. It has to be filed by a party to the action. Either I, as an attorney for the plaintiffs or attorney for the defendants, assistant US attorney would file something. Neither I nor US attorney filed any such affidavit or declaration.

    There was a rumor that there was some complaint filed with the CA bar and I was disbarred. None of it is true. Please go on the web site of Ca bar and see that I am an attorney in good standing and never had any action against me.

    There was a rumor that Philip Berg somehow became part of my case with judge Carter and filed a subpoena to ambassador of Kenya as part of this case. Again Berg has nothing to do with this case. There is nothing in the case having to do with Berg.

    Lastly, there was a vicious rumor that my husband is somehow connected with swine flu and swine flu vaccine. Again, ridiculous rumor.

    My husband studied computer science and business. He never studied pharmacology, doesn’t know pharmacology and wouldn’t know the difference between a virus and an elephant. He is a CEO of a company that produces a software, which is a tool used in research. It is used by many universities in the country. It is used in agriculture research, in chemical research, in any research that deals with molecules and computation of properties of molecules, that are being synthesised. There are millions and millions of molecules in the world. New ones are being synthesised every day, my husband has no clue what different companies are doing in their research. It is similar to any other software that is used as a tool. There is an accounting software, quicken. A computer engineer, who invented this software didn’t become your accountant, didn’t enter the information in your tax returns. Microsoft Word or Word Perfect is used by many writers, but it didn’t make Microsoft a poet or a comedian or a screen writer. Microsoft Word or Word Perfect is just a tool. I hope I explained this point and wouldn’t have to go to it again. My husband is a good man, he is a devoted father and he is there for our three sons when I am travelling around the country raising support for Obama’s illegitimacy issue, when I am in court fighting to make sure this country doesn’t turn into another Communist Hell, as I experienced as a child, so we don’t live under Dictator Obama with all his szars like another Himler or Herring or another Beria. I hope people stop attacking my family and start attacking Obama and demand that he produce his vital records immediately or resign or be removed immediately. Judge Carter has written “Court encourages discovery before the scheduling conference (it is on October 5th) ” I have submitted a proposed deposition schedule. Let’s make sure Obama shows up for his deposition with his hospital birth certificate ready for examination.

  305. 338 comments already…now logging in for the third time already this early-at-da-beach morning…gonna take me a few laps to try n ketchup wiff y’alls….these days they’re coming faster than I can manage; and like the song says, “and I don’t want to miss a thing!”…
    I’ll come back once I go find where I left off…
    e-gads…take it easy, boys & girls…”not so fast!”

  306. URGENT MESSAGE! Make this viral! It’s now life or death!
    Posted September 17th, 2009 by onefreedom

    The genocide is to start on 10-15, according to a military person, whose life is now in jeopardy. She broke protocol!

    Please watch and spread as far and wide as possible


    Download the video before it’s gone.

    God bless you all.

  307. cq.
    please supply the entire youtube link.

  308. Patriot Dreamer

    “Main Stream” Media Didn’t “Miss” ACORN Scandal

  309. Patriot Dreamer

    The “main stream” media needs a new name. Glenn Beck has started calling them the “fringe media”, because their ratings are so bad. Thoughts? Have a better name?

  310. Where do we go, to get an answer, to a legal question? Obama’s, eligibility to be president, is a legal question. Either he is eligible, based on his parentage, or he is not. Obama has openly claimed that he is the son of a British father and an American woman. No need to cloud the issue, with arguments, about place of birth, and conflicting birth certificates. Obama’s own admission, to being the son of, Barack Obama sr is proof, enough, to warrant, an answer, from a court of law. Using his parentage, as evidence, is Obama a natural born citizen? Legal question, and we deserve an answer!

  311. cq,
    It is already gone. What was it?

  312. cq List your history and see if you copy the original link in here, even if if it is broken.

  313. great article from Devvy Kidd
    I will look for lost video and get back to you.

  314. here it is , titlt of you tube is :

    URGENT MESSAGE!!!! Make this viral!!!!!!!!

  315. Patriot Dreamer

    “Liberal lies about health care: Joe Wilson edition!”

  316. As the battle gets more intense look for shills, be observant and discerning. I am a Georgia girl born and bred, the iudges (about 95% of them) are very opinionated, and on the take. The other 5% are in bed with “The Good Ol’Boys”. The case of Rhodes is beyond Judge Carter’s understanding, he is not capable of ruling on such an important matter. Also, he is an anti sematic as are most in the Georgia higher courts.

  317. cq-

    Here is what I found on CEJAY ENGINEERING. When I go to Naples, I’ll check this out.


  318. It’s probably owned by the CIA!!

  319. WARNING: Deflationary Collapse Dead Ahead

    Karl Denninger
    Market Ticker
    Sep 17, 2009


  320. And also the TAVISTOCK INSTITUTE

  321. Patriot Dreamer

    WND is referring to the “main stream” media as Obama’s “minion media”:

    “Patriots’ newest target: Obama ‘Minion Media'”

  322. Venice,
    Here’s a different opinion about H1N1.


  323. twe // September 17, 2009 at 9:25 am

    Morning twe,

    I remember that ‘device’ was used for the Marathon and drove all staff volunteers nuts.

    They usually do it on paper (tracking), which is always subject to human error.

    I don’t see any cause for panic with this program, but I’ll check further; it’s not Big Brother, just another method to track recipients.

    Personally, I think this whole H1N1 business will be a bust, just like 1976.

    Stand (or sit) by.

    Regarding the skunks: I used to work at a wildlife sanctuary and these black-and-whites were my favorites. They really are cool little critters, with one helluva defense system! They won’t spray unless backed into a corner with no other way to escape. when they stamp their feet and make themselves into a ‘U’ clear out! They can get you up to 20 feet away.

    Checking on flu…..

  324. Sorry, I meant judge Land

  325. Phoenix 1.5, as seen on the cq video:


    I don’t know what this proves??

  326. The ongoing mutation of H1N1 virtually makes the vaccine being “hawked” to the public by Big Pharma basically useless by the time you receive it. This is basic stuff, not rocket science. So, you must ask yourself WHY it is being pushed on us?

    Here’s a good site for vaccine info:

  327. The reason I think Acorn and all subsidiaries should be shut down forever I can put into 2 words-Bernie Madoff. They have had a pattern of corruption since day one and over the years just escalated their bad behavior. The more they got away with the more corrupt they became, just like Bernie and look at all the damage he did-
    SEC we didn’t know (care) Nancy Pelosi ACORN, duh I didn’t know. Nancy playing dumb, or are you that darn dumb?
    Does anyone know, the “ladies” in the tape that were fired, were they then later arrested for crimes, especially the Hit Wife, now widow.

  328. Morning All,

    This essentially is what I was told in the conversation I had a few weeks ago, and also what I’ve posted here a few times regarding MA’s ’emergency plans.’

    Hope this clarifies things a bit more for y’all:


  329. Re the cq video, I looked up some stuff on CeeJay and the person who made this vid. This sounds a little weird. First off, the device Jackie (that’s her name from some of the other stuff she has out there) shows on the vid is used in many, many military devices. Second, she puts out a lot of this kind of stuff. Looks suspect. She believes it but is it true??

    Re my post on the flu bracelets from the Globe. I went back to look at this some more and just realized this was posted last year to the Globe. It would be interesting to find out what was the result of this “test.”

  330. 6. Crayola drawings showing “I’m a U.S. Citizen”
    7. A note from mommy saying “I’m a U.S. Citizen”
    8. Me saying “I’m a U.S. Citizen”
    9. Note from Meeshell, “My husband is a U.S. citizen’
    10. Note from child, “My daddy is a U.S. citizen”

  331. “Yosef Taitz, the self-described “CEO” of Daylight Chemical Information Systems, Inc., a private software company located in Mission Viejo, CA, Santa Fe, NM, and Cambridge, England. DCIS, Inc. is intimately involved with Novartis Pharmaceuticals (United States, Switzerland, Germany, France, England), the patent holder of the bird/swine flu vaccination. The “DayCart” software produced by DCIS, Inc. integrates ongoing research and development by Novartis and others using proprietary Oracle 8i technologies.”

    ORACLE8i™ not only has the ability to rapidly analyze gene clade sequencing in viruses and bacteria in mere minutes, it can build a model of a complex new viral structure just as quickly, and can calculate to the minutest detail its possible “drift” of mutations after its release. This software can not only predict the DEATH TOLL the virus would produce, but also the accurate final numbers of its genetic mutations over a given period of time. In short, this software can indeed control a complex GENOCIDE AGENDA in the form of an engineered, worldwide VIRAL PANDEMIC from beginning to end – Alpha to Omega. Evidence suggests that this agenda was indeed systematically set in motion in March of 2009.

  332. Patriot Dreamer

    Michelle // September 17, 2009 at 11:39 am

    I agree with you, but there’s more to ACORN than just that. They are part of the “ends justifies the means” fringe socialist movement. Anything goes as long as they eventually get their way. They are also joined at the hip with SEIU, which states in their own bylaws that their goal is to take CONTROL of various industries through unions.

  333. SueK–I clicked on your link and it doesn’t come up, some “Bing” thing does instead. Thought you would like to know.

    Yes, the skunks are cute…but, what a repellent. Maybe we need to store some for when they try to make those vaccines mandatory! One spray will do ya!

  334. cq, et al. I don’t want to throw cold water on that video but I am having a hard time connecting the dots. Here is the website for the product mentioned in the video. http://www.cejayeng.com/products.php?id=59

    There is no mention of RFID technology for these units. I have sent the video to Cejay along in an email of concern asking for official comment. I will update if they reply.

  335. Civis Naturaliter Natus


    According to a comment at Leo’s blog…

    Leo, Urgent,

    Here’s your chance, please help.
    Orly Taitz
    My third web site was hacked. I can’t post anything at the moment. I just filed a request for stay of deployment of Captain Connie Rhodes MD pending decision on motion for reconsideration. If you are an attorney or paralegal and want to help wit…h drafting, call me at 949-683-5411 or e-mail dr_taitz@yahoo.com Write attorney or paralegal in the heading. I have over 80,000 e-mails and it might get lost otherwise.
    this is orlys direct request from her facebook.

  336. Civis Naturaliter Natus


    Louden exposes Van Jones Replacement

    Ron Bloom

    as Socialist from teenage years!

  337. Kim……….

    hmmmmmm…..just putting this software development together with other things I’ve read and (not about Dr. Taitz) and all I can say is hmmmmmm…..

    Thanks for the info.

  338. CNN,

    Sorry but I don’t know who John or the Post is but I want to help. Can you give me a link or address please?

    Thanks a lot.

  339. Fernley Girl,

    Thanks for the link. It fundamentally describes the specific pathological effects on the body, namely acute respiratory distress syndrome. What that means is that the tissues of the lung are sufficiently damaged by some agent to cause death. That can be achieved not only by viruses but by many other toxic agents.

    With seasonal flu, deaths arise from other causes. The issue at hand however is the epidiomological data. Does it cause greater numbers of death. So far the answer is no.

    Will it cause a greater number of deaths in the future? The answer to that is premised on the assumption that through mutation, the lethality of the virus will increase. The answer to that is pending.

    Virology, a highly complex and specialized field is potentially where the answers are, but may only remain confined to the lab. So far in the real world there is no evidence that it causes any greater number of deaths, even though the mode of the death may be different.

  340. Greg Goss,

    clicking through several links related to CEJAY’s site I saw the device – the Phoenix – profiled in a rotating fashion with other products. Not sure if I could find it again, though.

    Will wait to hear more from you

  341. Patriot Dreamer

    New high school class ring option from Josten’s:
    two choices for Barack Obama, 44th President


  342. Everyone,

    If we can get almost 2 million in Washington about healthcare, etc, why not have another with a unified message of:

    “We want an honest answer, we want our day in court!” (on eligibility)

    I was listening to a radio show out of Pittsburgh where they were airing a black woman insinuating anyone questioning Obama is racist. She said that she wishes the media would have interviewed tea party folks at the rally in DC to see what their M.O. is.

    Maybe we will be getting more media attention the next time around!

    Also, I think that the WND billboard thing is a great idea and we should make it a point to get them up in our local areas.

    On the Orly case, I have mixed emotions right now. I hope that she can overcome the system, but I feel like she is not being taken seriously.

    I think that she needs to lay low, go off the internet and the grid. Spend some time with some very good lawyers and rehearse the points she needs to get across as well as re-assess the legal situation given the evidence she has.

    BAD idea to advertise having anything of value, let that come out as a surprise in court!!

  343. Civis Naturaliter Natus



    Go to the About page (click tab at top)

    and you will find John’s email link…

  344. Gregg Gross,

    Information, it’s all good. sort through and do as one please. I question as well . hopefully they will reply to your email. Keep us posted. I also looked at their site and found no RFID info. Yet one may have to do more research. None the less, the video is not news to me. Just a nice message about the constitution and her oath to God opposed to the gevernment.

  345. Civis Naturaliter Natus


    Here is your chance to give Orly

    “an education”

    she’s solliciting help in writing better pleadings…

    That means she is not the arrogant b**tch others claim she is…

    Be patriotic and offer to give help…

    Even if it is only an outline of the kind of pleading she could submit…

    This is better that dissing her on blogs…

  346. Civis Naturaliter Natus


    I totally agree…I’ve given Orly similar advice…

    Keep the internet for fundraising, and only reports of filings…

    Omit everything else…its more prudent…

    by publishing personal comments on her blog, she is setting herself up for being psycop profiled, so they can press her buttons and get the reactions they might want…

    We all need to avoid that kind of public display on the internet…

    Obama will stop at nothing…

    Hacking Orly’s site hours after Land’s ruling, is standard pyscho-manipulation tactics to send someone into depression…military industrial establishment have used this on govt. workers for 4 decades…

  347. Civis Naturaliter Natus

    The South,

    regarding the corporation,

    Can you give me any govt. link that supports the assertion that our BCs are packaged and sold for credit?

    I’ve never heard of that, an have many friends who are financial experts, and they have not either…

  348. JustMe // September 17, 2009 at 11:28 am

    Hi JustMe,

    The information I have is that H1N1 has NOT mutated; this is the same flu setup we saw in Mexico this spring. I trust my source implicitly!

    Why is this being pushed on us? $$$. Plain and simple.

    During every seasonal flu season, sometimes there’s a vaccine shortage (this happened a few years ago) because, for many of the vaccine manufacturers, **there’s no money in it!**

    Let’s look at this from a pandemic perspective: If this (created) pandemic is big enough, pharma stands to make money hand over fist.

    We know that big pharma is in bed with Washington, so why not create a pandemic to bring lots and lots of money to the pharma industry?

    Make sense?

  349. GG @ 11:52:
    do you suppose if it is ‘legit’ they’d cop to it?
    Can’t imagine they would…or else, at least give you some ‘harmless’ spin on it.

  350. twe // September 17, 2009 at 11:48 am

    Ya, just aim a skunk out your door and that should do it!

    Apologies, twe…it’s an intranet site, so maybe it didn’t take.

    Sorry for the length of this, but here’s what it says:
    In public health bill, a contagion of fear; State rebuts talk of forced injections
    By Stephen Smith, Boston Globe Staff | Thursday, September 17, 2009

    The banner, bold and provocative, was tattooed with a syringe, skull and crossbones, and a call to action: “Say no to forced vaccination.’’

    The message, delivered last week on Beacon Hill, was aimed at a seemingly prosaic piece of legislation that aims to better define – and, in some respects, restrict – the emergency powers of the state’s public health officials.

    Within the bill’s arcane language, a 16-month-old activist coalition sees government authority run amok: mandated vaccinations, quarantines, arrests, fines. Swine flu, they warn, will be the virus that opens the door to the public health police.

    “We have a concern that we will be forced to be quarantined if we refuse the vaccine,’’ said Laura Jackson, president of the Liberty Preservation Association of Massachusetts, which mustered 30 to 40 members for the lobbying drive. “What I’d like to see done with this law is have it burned.’’

    Those concerns, public health authorities insist, are entirely unfounded. But the association’s multimedia campaign – aired over talk radio and its website – compelled state Public Health Commissioner John Auerbach to send an italicized, bold-faced missive to legislators, stressing that “mandatory vaccination is not and has never been part of the plan or discussion in Massachusetts’ pandemic response.’’

    The bill, Auerbach and other top officials said in interviews, would never force anyone to be vaccinated unwillingly, and its extraordinary measures – such as quarantining people who decline inoculations – would be reserved for equally extraordinary times, such as a bioterror attack or the emergence of a highly lethal, rapidly spreading germ. Swine flu, caused by the H1N1 virus, is not such a germ, Auerbach said.

    The protest by the group, whose founders supported Republican Ron Paul in the 2008 presidential election, reached its pitch at an especially delicate moment for public health authorities. Auerbach’s letter demonstrates that his agency is worried the dissent could raise doubts about vaccination and imperil an unprecedented campaign to inoculate millions this fall against the seasonal flu and the swine strain.

    “Accuracy of information is going to be key in terms of the public understanding what they should do,’’ Auerbach said in an interview.

    In the opposition to Massachusetts’ revised public health emergency law, as well as in the combustible health care town hall meetings that greeted some members of Congress this summer, analysts see more than traditional conservative concerns about individual liberty and big government.

    They also find signs of deeper worries about a world descending into uncertainty, with panic over economics and the emergence of a novel flu strain.

    “It doesn’t surprise me that when you have another epidemic, another threat of a disease, then you get emotions tweaked up, and separately in the health care debate, we’ve seen a rise in emotionalism replacing logic,’’ said Gene W. Matthews, a senior fellow at the University of North Carolina’s Institute for Public Health.

    Matthews was among those who presided over efforts to update public health emergency regulations when he was the top attorney at the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

    The terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, and the arrival of anthrax-laced letters at congressional and media offices a month later revealed a largely ignored truth about those laws: In many states, they had not been updated for decades.

    A team led by Lawrence O. Gostin, a Georgetown University law professor, drafted the language that has served as a model for Massachusetts’ proposed law and for revised rules adopted in 37 states so far.

    “Most of the laws were very antiquated,’’ Matthews said, “and they didn’t recognize concepts of due process and individual rights and legal evolution that had occurred in the last 50 years.’’

    In times of emergency, medical authorities had long possessed sweeping powers to do what was necessary to protect the public’s well-being. According to the state Department of Public Health, such emergencies have been declared only three times since the 1970s, with the most recent being a 2006 order for aerial spraying to combat Eastern equine encephalitis in Southeast Massachusetts. In 1993, when West Stockbridge’s water supply ran dry, the agency used its powers to tap water from a private source. And in the 1970s, the state took control of a financially teetering nursing home.

    The updated legislation, passed by the Senate in late April and awaiting action in the House, carries penalties for certain violations: People who refuse orders to remain isolated could face up to a month in jail and fines as high as $1,000 a day.

    But the proposed law also would, in certain instances, provide a check on the power of health officials. For example, a judge’s approval would now be needed before a government agency could perform tests or a physical examination on someone thought to present a significant medical risk to the community.

    Bob Dwyer, an opponent of the law, said the Liberty Preservation Association was “not trying to say don’t take the vaccines’’ against the flu.

    Still, he said, he believes the emergency law “violates numerous rights that we have in the Bill of Rights and the Constitution,’’ including the right to freely assemble. The law is unnecessary, he insisted, because most people don’t need the threat of legal action to persuade them to remain home when they’re sick.

    It’s understandable that some people might greet talk of quarantines with trepidation, said Valerie Bassett, executive director of the Massachusetts Public Health Association.

    But such measures, taken in rare circumstances, are “the same reason you drive within the lane on the highway,’’ Bassett said. “It’s about the protection of health and life.’’

    © Copyright 2009 The New York Times Company

  351. Sue K

    I am well aware of the reason WHY….sorry if it came across as if I didn’t….it was a general question for others to ponder.

    And I beg to disagree with you about the mutation aspect. Any flu vaccine is always in chase mode and render them useless.

  352. To the south, let me know what you think of this site in regards to BC. It states when you are born your parents sign your BC. Then when you turn 18 your BC becomes owned by the state.

    secured party creditor. look at this site. Has anyone heard of this?


  353. JustMe // September 17, 2009 at 12:20 pm

    Yes, vaccine do chase and are pretty much obsolute as soon as they’re produced however, the sequence of this bug is the same one we had in the spring but of course, this is not to say that it won’t combine with another virus.

    Remember back in the spring, the WHO was *predicting* it to combine with H5N1 (Avian flu)? Watching this closely because if H1N1 does, in fact, combine, we’re not talking ‘conspiracy theory,’ we’re talking full-blown conspiracy.

  354. SueK @ 12:13: I’ve posted about this several times, but it probably rings ‘hollow’ with anyone unfamiliar with, or without regard for, the ‘warnings’ of the ‘pharmakeia’ in the Scriptures that pre-record the very days we are living in, post 1948 & 1967.

    Just in the nearby vicinity, there has been a continual ‘replacement’ program going on for years: major gas stations at major, ‘high-traffic’ and ‘high-profile’ intersections…being scraped and replaced by major drug store chains. And since September 1st they’ve all posted signs offering the flu shots for something like $24.95.
    It’s already here, folks…AND I have noticed a significant rise in the ‘visibility’ of law enforcement vehicles on the streets; just a ‘coincidence’, maybe?….mmmmm….
    I have other ‘confirmation’ which I am not at liberty to share here…at least not today.
    there’s no harm in being ‘suspicious’…or just careful…didn’t someone recently post “trust but verify” as a Ronald Reagan quote?
    And I’ll leave you with, what I believe is, an encouraging message from The BOOK, for those who chose to trust it:
    Amos 3:3&7 reads- (meaning: us and Him):
    “Do two walk together unless they have agreed to do so? (read more…to v. 7) Surely the Sovereign LORD does nothing without revealing his plan to his servants the prophets.”

  355. Civis Naturaliter Natus-I think Orly is going to win the Guinness Book of World’s Records-Most Hacked Web-Site. I wonder if this will give the judges a clue, and what if they were trying to get a hold of her or anyone else important to the case. Could this obstruction of justice on some level?

  356. The WH had access to DNC donor list before shutting down Republican-supporting dealerships.
    Posted at ObamaCrimes by rxsid,
    Wednesday, September 16, 2009


    BTW – After Russia refuses to support his request to help him with islamic iran, he STILL caves and sends senior emissaries to kill off the missile defense shield planned for Poland and Czechoslovakia to intercept Iranian missiles but grumbled about by Russia! What a leader! (not!)

    If the lapdog Media did its job, this could be a scandal of epic proportions and one that makes Nixon’s Watergate or Clinton ‘s Monica Lewinsky affair pale by comparison. Why was there neither rhyme nor reason as to which dealerships of the Chrysler Corporation were to be closed? Roll the clock back to the weeks just before Chrysler declared bankruptcy. Chrysler, like GM, was in dire financial straights and federal government graciously offered to “buy the company” and keep them out of bankruptcy and “save jobs.” Chrysler was, in the words of Obama and his administration, “Too big to fail,” same story with GM.

    The feds organized their “Automotive Task Force” to fix Chrysler and GM. Obama, in an act that is 100% unconstitutional, appointed a guy named Steve Rattner to be the White House’s official Car Czar- literally, that’s what his title is. Rattner is the liaison between Obama, Chrysler, and GM.

    Initially, the national media reported that Chrysler had made this list of dealerships. That is not true. The Washington Examiner, Newsmax, Fox News and a host of other news agencies discovered that the list of dealerships was put together by the “Automotive Task Force” headed by no one other then Mr. Steve Rattner.

    Now the plot thickens.

    Remember earlier we said earlier that there was neither rhyme nor reason why certain dealerships were closed? Actually there’s a very interesting pattern as to who was closed down.

    Again, on May 27, 2009, The Washington Examiner and Newsmax exposed the connection. Amazingly, of the 789 dealerships closed by the federal government 788 had donated money, exclusively, to Republican political causes, while contributing nothing to Democratic political causes.

    The only “Democratic” dealership on the list was found to have donated $7,700 to Hillary’s campaign, and a bit over $2,000 to John Edwards. This same dealership, reportedly, also gave $200.00 to Obama’s campaign. Does that seem a little odd to you?

    Steve Rattner, the guy who put the list together. Well he happens to be married to a babe named Maureen White. Maureen happens to be the former national finance chairman of the Democratic National Committee. As such, she would have access to campaign donation records from everyone in the nation, Republican or Democrat. But of course, this is just a wacky coincidence, we’re certain.

    Then comes another really wacky coincidence. On that list of dealerships being closed down, a weird thing happened in Arkansas , North Louisiana , and Southern Missouri . It seems that Bill Clinton’s former White House Chief of Staff, Mack McClarty, owns a chain of dealership in that region, partnered with a fellow by the name of Robert Johnson. Johnson happens to be founder of Black Entertainment Television and was a huge Obama supporter and financier.

    These guys own a half dozen Chrysler stores under the company title of RLJ-McClarty-Landers. Interestingly, none of their dealerships were ordered closed – not one – while all of their competing Chrysler/Dodge and Jeep dealership were! Eight dealerships located near the dealerships owned by McClarty and Johnson were ordered shut down.

    Thus, by pure luck, these two major Obama supporters now have virtual monopoly on Chrysler sales in their zone.

    Isn’t that amazing? Go look in The Washington Examiner, the story’s there, and it’s in a dozen or so other web-based news organization, this isn’t being made up.

    Now if you thought Chrysler was owned by Fiat, you are truly mistaken. Under the federal court ruling, 65% of Chrysler is now owned by the federal government and the United Auto Worker’s union- Fiat owns 20%. The other 15% is till privately owned and presumably will be traded on the stock market. Obama smiles and says he doesn’t want to run the auto

    As horrifying as this is to comprehend, and being as how this used to be the United States of America , it would appear that the president has the power to destroy private businesses and eliminate upwards of 100,000 jobs , just because they don’t agree with his political agenda. This is Nazi Germany stuff, and it’s happening right here, right now, in your back yard. There are voices in Washington demanding an explanation, but the “Automotive Task Force” has released no information to the public or any of the senators demanding answers for what has been done. Keep your ear to the ground for more on this story. If you’ve ever wanted to make a difference about anything in your life, get on the phone to your national senator or representative in the House and demand an investigation on this.

    Benjamin Franklin had it right when he said, “All that’s necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.”

    Car Czar No More

    An amazing thing happened as this story was going to press. Obama’s Car Czar, Steve Rattner, resigned on July 13 and was promptly replaced by former steel workers union boss Ron Bloom. According to CBS News, Rattner left “to return to private life and spend time with his family.” Treasure Secretary Tim Geithner said, “I hope that he takes another
    opportunity to bring his unique skills to government service in the future.” By the way, Rattner is under investigation for a multi-million dollar pay-to-play investment bank scandal in New York . Uh-oh! But, we’re certain that had nothing to do with his resignation. And, according to several news sources out there, there are rumors he’s being investigated for what could be pay-to-play scandal involving the closing of Chrysler and GM dealerships. Really?

    Again, that couldn’t have anything to with his resignation- that’s ridiculous! Like CBS said, this guy just wants to spend more quality time with his family. Obama has thirty-two personally appointed “czars” that answer to no one but him, all of whom are acting without any Constitutional authority. But hey, we’re sure they all have “unique skills,” as Tim Geithner likes to say.

    http://noiri.blogspot.com/2009/09/unbel … b-ama.html

    “PLAINTIFFS” with “STANDING” here? I would think so…

  357. Civis Naturaliter Natus
    Scroll down 3/4ths of the page and read about the BC issue. I could not copy and paste it for odd reason.

    let me know what you think of this site in regards to BC. It states when you are born your parents sign your BC. Then when you turn 18 your BC becomes owned by the state.

    secured party creditor. look at this site. Has anyone heard of this?


  358. Time to let the media hear from us now.

    Mark your calendars – October 17th!!


  359. follow up , according to my understanding of Leo’s D’s posts, the best way to approach this is quo warranto case in DC

    which means an attorney, listed as qualified , would have to file it

    anyone still thinking about my idea? Where is this project 9-12 database that can be mined?
    for 10,000 people suing OBAMA and PELOSI for 1.5 trillion dollars? All we need is a suit
    of this magnitude to get the attention of these BSers contributing 100 each. What do you say?

  360. CNN,
    The point I was trying to make was simple. Blind faith got us to where we are today. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Hold on, blind faith isn’t all that’s wrong here…..
    Many regulations and laws enacted in the last 20 years didn’t see the light of day until exposed by an angry citizen, and many still today are being voted on behind closed doors; therein lies much of the problem…….transparency my a**!!!!!

  361. Re-do // September 17, 2009 at 12:32 pm

    Gotcha, Re-do…same thing happening on the Right coast.

    Why does a town of 30K need 5 CVSs or Walgreen’s? It’s for sure it’s not because of their weekly sales of Colgate toothpaste.

    I remember my local family-owned pharmacy in town who was unceremoniously put out of business by the large ‘chains.’

    The prescription lines are unusually long lately. I’ve not seen increased law enforcement presence (except on the never-ending construction projects while the weather’s good) but I’ll keep an eye out.

    Please share what you can, when you can and thanks for the words of encouragement.

  362. Fernley Girl -If all this is true it as disgusting as the ACORN scandal, if not much, much worse. To put people that have worked years to build these dealerships and intentionally put them out of business because they did not contribute to your political party, and increase business to those who did is thievery beyond belief. Say you and I represented a Dem dealership, a Rep dealership I would want to compete with you fair and square not get business in this sleazy underhanded way. Say the country flips to Republicans, do they now run around and arbitrarily and capriciously close Democratic businesses? I think those dealerships do have standing and should sue everyone involved. This is a terrible precedent to set. This crime is on a par with a robber goes into a bank with a weapon and steals all the money.

  363. Because he’s such a Jerk.
    Thursday, September 17, 2009 Email to a Friend ShareThis.Advertisement
    The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Thursday shows that 32% of the nation’s voters Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as President. Forty percent (40%) Strongly Disapprove giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of -8 (see trends).

  364. Sue K,

    Scientists in Brazil HAVE identified a mutation of H1N1.

    As I’m sure you know they are always ahead of us with their flu season and thus is always the area to “watch.”

    snipped from article on the web at this link:

    Scientists in Brazil have identified a new strand of the killer disease in a patient in Sao Paulo.
    The mutated form has been named A/Sao Paolo/1454/H1N1 by bacteriologists at the Adolfo Lutz Institute after experts compared the mutated virus with samples of the original swine flu from California.
    Scientist Terezinha Maria de Pavia discovered that the mutation had occurred in a haemoglobin protein.
    It is not yet known if the mutation is more deadly than the A/H1N1 strand which has already been declared a pandemic by the WHO.

  365. Kim // September 17, 2009 at 1:27 am

    Understandable, but it’s a broad jump from data processing to manufacturing a deadly virus is my line of thinking here.

  366. Sue K,

    yet another article on mutation….

    snipped from http://biomedreports.com/articles/most-popular/1438-h1n1-flu-has-mutated-which-companies-may-be-able-to-help.html

    The new strain of influenza appears to have mutated to become more infectious for humans, the online edition of science magazine Nature reported, referencing research by a team including Professor Yoshihiro Kawaoka of Tokyo University’s Institute of Medical Science.

    After analyzing multiple samples of the new flu virus, the team ascertained that in some cases the HA of the new H1N1 strain have mutated, allowing the strain to stick to human cells more easily. After analyzing multiple samples of the new flu virus, the team ascertained that in some cases the HA of the new H1N1 strain have mutated, allowing the strain to stick to human cells more easily. Full article at above link.

  367. Big Pharma made a deal with Obama to cut $80 Billion in projected costs to taxpayers and senior citizens over ten years. It looks like they looking to make up a lot of that with vaccine sales…

  368. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0057012/quotes
    from Dr. Strangelove
    General Jack D. Ripper: Your Commie has no regard for human life, not even of his own. For this reason men, I want to impress upon you the need for extreme watchfulness. The enemy may come individually, or in strength. He may even appear in the form of our own troops. But however we must stop him. We must not allow him to gain entrance to this base. Now, I’m going to give you THREE SIMPLE rules: First, trust NO one, whatever his uniform or rank, unless he is known to you personally; Second, anyone or anything that approaches within 200 yards of the perimeter is to be FIRED UPON; Third, if in doubt, shoot first then ask questions later. I would sooner accept a few casualties through accidents rather losing the entire base and its personnel through carelessness. Any variation of these rules must come from me personally. Any variation on these rules must come from me personally. Now, men, in conclusion, I would like to say that, in the two years it has been my privilege to be your commanding officer, I have always expected the best from you, and you have never given me anything less than that. Today, the nation is counting on us. We’re not going to let them down. Good luck to you all.

  369. I am providing a link to the list of proposed Chrysler closings. If you are inclined to help bring the owner of a dealership near you together with Leo Donofrio (naturalborncitizen dot wordpress dot com), please look through the list, locate a dealer and contact them. Print the article I posted from Noiri and give it to them along with Donofrio’s contact info. If we could gather up a large contingent of plaintiffs it would be a lot more difficult for the leftie media to ignore.

  370. #

    da verg // September 17, 2009 at 12:47 pm

    follow up , according to my understanding of Leo’s D’s posts, the best way to approach this is quo warranto case in DC

    which means an attorney, listed as qualified , would have to file it

    anyone still thinking about my idea? Where is this project 9-12 database that can be mined?
    for 10,000 people suing OBAMA and PELOSI for 1.5 trillion dollars? All we need is a suit
    of this magnitude to get the attention of these BSers contributing 100 each. What do you say?

    da verg – You can count me in.

  371. RFID chips…

    For those interested, a good primer on this technology can be found at http://www.spychips.com

    More about Dr. Albrecht at http://www.katherinealbrecht.com/

  372. We can be the Citizen Wells Contingent and all of us here will have something we can bond 0nto financially.

  373. SueK @ 12:48 wrote:
    “The prescription lines are unusually long lately. I’ve not seen increased law enforcement presence (except on the never-ending construction projects while the weather’s good) but I’ll keep an eye out.”
    a-ha! you just confirmed another ‘suspicious observation’…here, too! all the street construction: main thoroughfares ‘pinched and bottlenecked’ and blocked by large machinery. And where did the funds come from ‘suddenly’, when the states (like CA) are ‘broke’ and cannot afford to maintain the roads?!…’stinkulus’ funds!
    And the smell of it is, it all conveniently fits into the ‘roadblock’ scenario suggested by the female soldier on the YouTube “warning!” clip.
    No ‘coinky-dinky’ me thinky…All of a sudden the big main drags here are all repaired and looking like new…just the main ones. Some of the interconnecting routes ‘suddenly’ are having Public Works projects…digging up streets and putting in new main lines…that’s also been in the LA news of late: firetrucks disappearing into sink holes, etc. Yeh, I suppose it could all just be a big coincidence that it’s happening NOW.
    “keep yer eyes peeled…”

  374. General Motors kept their list of 1,100 closed dealerships private. If you know of a GM dealership in your area put on your gumshoes and find them. Put them in touch with Donofrio.

    And, a question for someone with a legal background….could all the employees who lost their jobs join in the suit as plaintiffs?

  375. Michelle: This one’s for you! Incredible summary of ACORN discoveries…you were so right; this scandal is definitely widespread! Investigations are spreading from state to state. It cannot be ignored any longer!


  376. JustMe // September 17, 2009 at 12:56 pm

    Right, JustMe…I know about the Brazilian situation. I was talking about the results of virology studies in the U.S.

    This is very much the same thing as the H5N1 we were all preparing for back in 2005; we thought it would hit the U.S. in a big way but it never did (one infected quail came into CA, and that was it) however, it was pretty devastating to Indonesia for quite some time.

    Bottom line is that we really don’t know what’ll happen and that’s why surveillance is important; not necessarily a ‘vaccine.’

    Interesting article-thanks for posting.

  377. Ms helga and da verg,

    count me in

  378. Truth Exists (Paulajal)

    Ms helga and da verg. Me too.

  379. If you know of a GM dealership … that was closed..

    my bad. allergies are making me stupid

  380. Kreep counters DOJ
    and chides Clay D Land in his rebuttal
    on “political” issues Land is so reluctant …..no balls…cowardly to address

    cq , need at least a 1000

  381. OK cq- I vote for CW to be our treasurer and President.

  382. and here we have the crux of the problem of Washington DC-all government entities contained there. They just can’t count-People/Dollars.
    A fierce numbers battle has erupted in the aftermath of Saturday’s Capitol Hill rally by “tea party” conservatives that is not over the growth of government, the budget deficit or even the $1 trillion cost of President Obama’s health care plan, but about the size of the crowd.
    Now they are “debating” crowd size. You don’t debate something like this, just simply stick with the facts. No doubt in my mind 2 million, spin that.

  383. da verg @ 1:27: for us ‘un-legals’…does that necessarily mean that (your suggesting) Kreep is not a creep…as some have stated…but legit; and that his ‘aid’ via an alternate route, such as it appears, has some teeth? splain, if you will, to us of lesser minds. thanks.

  384. Re-do // September 17, 2009 at 1:19 pm

    Losing computer access shortly, Re-do, but I wanted to respond.

    Since our weather here is so crappy, Public Works does what it can during our abbreviated summer (this one has been particularly bad). One project has been waiting for years and is finally underway, most likely because of Porkulus funds.

    On the other hand, you generally see projects going on as resources and weather permit. As we say around here: New England has two seasons-summer, and construction.

    Something to be aware of, I think. Not sure about that vid.

  385. A response from Cejay. First is my email to them.

    From: Greg Goss [mailto:Gwg1955@comcast.net]
    Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 11:29 AM
    To: info@cejayeng.com
    Cc: Jackie Smith
    Subject: Phoenix Junior

    To whom it may concern. I have come across this video that seems to be a little bit scary. I am far from a conspiracy theorist but your product is specifically documented. I here by respectfully request Cejay for an official response to this video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qQ4iFI5Np8&feature=player_embedded

    Your immediate attention will be appreciated.

    Greg Goss

    Hudson NH

    Then there was this internal email.

    From: Derek Haynes [mailto:info@cejayeng.com]
    Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 11:57 AM
    To: mark.haynes@cejayeng.com; stuart.jenkins@tiscali.co.uk
    Subject: FW: Phoenix Junior

    I am not sure how to handle this I watched the total tape the person on the tape is alarmist I don’t think it deserves the dignity of a response but I would be interested in your thoughts justifies the security measures taken the diatribe is referring to Ph junior and the pictures are of junior at the end of the tape. D

    And here is the “official” response.


    Thank you for bringing our attention to this video. The phoenix Combat ID system is designed, manufactured, and sold as Infrared IFF system as listed on our website. It is solely available to Military and Law Enforcement for purchase as an IFF system.

    We are not aware of any use / deployment of the system in correlation with the swine flu as proposed in the YouTube Video. Please see our website for additional information on the beacons history and purpose.



    S-Lite / Cejay Engineering

    So I would have to say that the alarm that this gal in the video is sounding seems to be unfounded. I am sure that is the “Government” was going to strap millions of Americans with this device Cejay would have knowledge.

  386. I wouldn’t be rushing so fast, but I just got through watching the USURPER giving his same speech to the Univ. of Maryland about”First a room, then a city, then a state, and then a country, and finally the world” He gave this same specch on 9-12 to the unions and this one to students. Shades of the Third Reich. He is DANGEROUS

  387. I simply scrolled down to the conclusion…always like to read “the ending from the beginning”…

  388. The South // September 17, 2009 at 2:38 am


    You are correct my friend. Lock and Load!

    Just like Joyce Rosenwald said in an interview; the only remedy is at the end of a barrel.

    I don’t condone violence, but for crying out loud, how do you get the so called Gov’t to listen to you?

    Jeff, South….conceded and yielded to that months ago. On January 20, 2009 about 12:10 PM.

    Thanks to Richard's advice, from reastoretheconstitutionalrepublic.com, I can LOCK AND LOAD in the dark a 12 guage.

  389. GG @ 1:34: I don’t write this with any sarcasm, as I respect your ‘angle and efforts’…but I can’t help that it brings to mind “Little Red Riding Hood”…of all the silly things…and the Fox’s masquerade…just sayin’….it’s still kinda creepy.

  390. Sue K

    What I’ve read about the WHO keeping track of this virus is that they’ve stopped tracking it. When they were “tracking” the spread I had my doubts about the stats they published based on what I read about their process for testing samples. The time lag, technicians, paperwork, etc… They are NOT my “go to” guys for this virus.

    Also, did you see their own document (90 pgs) that was making the rounds a week or so ago?

    Geneva – 8 to 12 October 2007

    Proposed Guidelines:
    Regulatory Preparedness for Human Pandemic Influenza Vaccines

    They admit to releasing viruses – “priming human populations.” I downloaded it and am about half way through it now. I realize some of this is necessary, but….this pandemic doesn’t pass the smell test for me.

  391. GG, thanks for the info. trust no body. ask your self, what are they not telling me and why.

    Obama wants health care pushed thru by Oct 15,

  392. Civis Naturaliter Natus


    Orly files Emergency Stay, and rebuts Land’s Ruling point by point…


  393. Re-do, The problem with stuff like this is the conspiracy factor. Here you have a company that employs local people in Florida, and apparently people of the same family. In order for what was depicted on the video to happen. You have to have a small company ramp up production probably about a year or so ago to prepare for the number of units that would be required.

    Shipping points would have to identified, logistics worked out and so on and so on. So many ordinary people would be involved that it would be impossible to keep it under wraps.

    That is why so many “conspiracies” get debunked so fast.

    Now do I believe there are conspiracies? Yes. Everything pertaining to BHO is a conspiracy. And because he has, allegedly, been able to commit or have someone commit murder at least twice it is a very effective silencing technique…

  394. OK-da verg -ms. helga,cq–& Truth Exists(Paulajal) we are up to a half of an Army Squad(8-16).Now we can start our war.


  395. Pelosi: I’m clueless about cash cut-off

    WASHINGTON — House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said yesterday she is clueless about an amendment to prohibit government funds for embattled ACORN. “I don’t even know what they passed,” Pelosi told The Post yesterday. “What did they do? They defunded it?”
    Now this post I can believe!!! What a dingbat…this is probably factual!!

  396. CNN – Great news. The last sentence of the post should make us all cry for joy.

    “Noteworthy is the fact, that Rhodes’ counsel has filed this Emergency Stay request on the anniversary of the ratification of the U.S. Constitution.”

  397. Sue K,

    the last article I posted a link to (BioMed Reports) was for a MUTATION in JAPAN. It isn’t another article confirming the Sao Paulo strain.

    felt like I should clarify that.

  398. Re do

    I read his rebuttal to DOJ for his case, he makes some good points methinks, esp. in regard to the political issue that Land raised , well really OBAMA’s liars raised. I have to believe that Land’s response was written by OBiLiar’s team of liars. Even though Land isn’t the judge in his case, it sort of cuts off that avenue with some solid facts. We shall see. As far as Kreeps other ventures i am not attuned to them.

    I need access to the million man data base, how do i get that? Who is the keeper. Surely someone took down twitters and email addies?

  399. Linda from NY 1:56 pm,

    The short answer to that is probably not. Doctors are already trained under a mentor system while providing service.

    As residents they provide the bulk of the clinical work in hospitals and get paid a fraction of what their attendants receive. In a sense they already have at minimum deferred income by 4 years, and depending on their specialty could be as lengthy as 8 years.

    Considering that by then these people are mature adults, ready to have families etc., asking them to limit their income further is unreasonable.

    If they can do what they did in defense of the Constitution we can surely do ours.
    Vera top of the charts in Great Britian at 92.

  401. SueK 2009/09/17 12:13pm

    You are correct about big pharma & Obama.

  402. Fernley Girl, I found you a list of 1,100 closed GM dealerships.


  403. Lame Cherry discussion of Obama shutting down defense shield as it relates to above Iran report of going nuclear.

  404. From MommaE blog radio:


    I just wanted to let you know that this afternoon’s show is definitely on! Mark McGrew will be my Guest this afternoon and you all know that when Mark and I get together, the show is fun and rocks right on. We will be talking about all kinds of things in regards to what out Government is doing and our continuing efforts to remove the Usurper out of our Whitehouse. We are working towards this Goal, because we firmly believe that he is NOT eligible under OUR Constitution.

    Please post this on your Blogs, any other Blogs or we Sites you are connected to and send to everyone in your Address Book.

    The Call in number, link and time of the show for all time zones are below.

    The Call in number is 646-727-2652.

    Here is the link for the show http://www.blogtalkradio.com/Sentinel_Radio

    12:30 PM Pacific

    1:30 PM Mountain

    2:30 PM Central

    3:30 PM Eastern

    Hope you will all join to listen and chat!


  405. yeah! Go, go go go Orly!!

  406. Also, he is an anti sematic (Land) as are most in the Georgia higher courts.

    Whoa, that’s pretty significant prejudice by a judge considering Orly is Jewish from Russia??? Is it not??

  407. Amy,

    Thank you! Am in the process of getting a contact list together for all the dealerships in my state.

  408. Linda from NY-Thank you. I just know South Side of Chicago, dirty politics. This is the epicenter of the filthy activity and Obama and most of his administration are up to their necks in it. What they used to say about the Mob up there was they have tentacles (octopus) everywhere. MOB/ACORN same thing in my mind and this body count of so many people near the “action” spooky, I think more to come, somebody is getting nervous. I am sure many Chicago news people have been and are currently working on stories. For the voter fraud see GiGi Gastons We Will not be Silenced. I think she knows Dr. Orly also.
    Everthing ACORN ever ever touched is corrupt.
    Talk about a class action suit. SEIU same thing.

  409. Obama rewrites story during his speach to congress- artistic liscence I guess.


  410. Everyone,

    The South Carolina model complaint of election fraud to the AG is up. Anyone here from SC?


    Now, to catch up on the comments…

  411. VENICE,

    THANK YOU for the speaking to the little unknown facts about physicians pay.

    My husband’s first salary, after spending YEARS in school and training, was something like $15,000 a year. He HAD to pick up extra work moonlighting in E.R. just to make ends meet & repay student loans.

    They also pay a lot of taxes that others benefit from.

    Physicians now days don’t make what they did in the “Golden Age”. Medicare now pays 40 cents on the dollar and, I believe, Medicaid pays 20 cents on the dollar. Furthermore, Medicare was NEVER meant to be the leader in reimbursement rates. Somewhere along the line, private insurance companies followed suit and cut their reimbursement rates to be comparable or in some cases match. That’s why some physicians don’t take insurance and cap the number of Medicare patients they see. Many times you have to pay up front and file your own claims.

    I personally don’t think the insurance companies should be allowed to reference on their remittances to patients what the physician’s fees are. It’s irrelevant anyway. They should post ONLY the fees they’ve contracted to pay the physician. This, in my opinion, has created the mindset “thank goodness I had insurance.” I digress…

    No matter the profession, NO ONE should have to take cuts in pay due to the government dictates. This mindset is Socialistic not Capitalistic.

  412. “One of the only sane senators in that loony bin of a senate…”


  413. Listening to Fox News right now, Former Ambassador John Bolton criticizing O’s decision to drop the Eastern European defense systems. One of Obama’s tools defended, saying Iran is ten to 15 years away from a nuke. Meanwhile this is posted on the internet:
    Nuke agency says Iran can make a bomb


  414. Time for a new Obama poster- picture a wooden obama with a Pinnochio nose.

  415. cq: yes, the 10/15 push seems to square with the video…but which came first, the chicken or the egg? the vid-chic coulda had that date info, too?
    or just another ‘coinky-dink’?

  416. Linda from NY-in the new bizarro world Joe Wilson LIES and gets censured for it, but Obama always speaks the truth-even when you have proof of his lies, paper/video etc.
    I swear to God Satan has nothing on Obama the other ONE with the bifurcated tongue.

  417. Linda, South: how would the RICO thing square with the ‘corporation’-thing? at all?

  418. Prairie: Great minds think alike, no?

    How’s your “poetic” prowess postulating?

  419. Prairie: are there folks who doubt that Israel will act alone and take out Iran’s nukes, if (?!) they consider themselves an immediate threat?

  420. or I should write “in immediate danger?”…

  421. To those that asked about the Birth Certificate Bond and info here.

    Redemption Services

    Yes, I have read that on another site here.

    US vs USA

    I also heard Joyce Rosenwald talking about it in one of the interviews she did with Carl Swenson.

    We’ve been had.

  422. Linda from NY
    Acorn Runs Off the Rails
    “After the Nevada voter-registration fraud indictment last May, Bonnie Greathouse, Acorn’s chief organizer in the state, told the Las Vegas Review-Journal that “we’ve had bad publicity before” and survived. “People always come forward to our defense. We’re just community organizers, just like the president used to be.”
    The end of her thought would be and just as corrupt as he is, because after all he trained us.
    RICO them SEIU, savings to taxpayers 2 trillion dollars.

  423. I read an article about a person manufacturing the innoculators for the flu vaccine…….she reported her job was to install a tiny (one of the tiniest made yet)RFID chip that would gain info and monitor that person……….

    What if the flu isn’t really the killer we are led to believe it is but really a project to an experiment of tracking devices installed in the unsuspecting???
    They know we won’t allow it in schools, and their motive with the H1N1 vaccine was really an experiment, not a prevention for flu???

  424. Acorn’s Bertha Lewis Says Thanks and Vote Working Families Party

  425. cq at 10:43,

    How dishonest can one get. DK is yet another in the long line of hucksters trying to gain notoriety by linking to my work – embedded, of course, no attributes – advising people to file complaints of election fraud to their A’sG and to obtain samples here. Someone emailed me to point out, she is trying to “attach” herself to your work.

    All of these people who have no idea what the work they have stolen from my blog entails, also have no idea how to avoid screwing it up. They do great injustice to both my readers and contributors; and me.

  426. Very serious confirmation today that Obama has scrapped plans for missile defence shield in Eastern Europe. Obama’s foreign policies must be stopped!

    He has distanced himself from all our allies..
    Snubbed Great Britain, Israel, Honduras….Not a word to those in Iran dying for protesting a rigged election. And now, he’s basically telling the Poles and the CZechs, they are on their own.

    Russia emerges the winner in this trade-off and the US gets NOTHING. Why????

    Do you remember in 2005(before Obama announces his run for President and before the passport break-in) when Obama, Lugar and others went as a delegation to Russia re: US, Russian disarmament talks. There were 3 tense hours while Russians were not allowing the Senators to board their aircraft until they searched it….The Senators were held in a room while the Russian border officials took their passports……..Gee, I wonder what they discovered from Obama’s passport .

    Is this perhaps what our Founding Fathers feared when they spoke of Dual loyalties…

    Is our President now being blackmailed???

    I admit, this is just food for thought.

    Perhaps though, a very valid argument for discovery….We should demand to know who this man really is!


  427. For you ‘Bereans’ out there…me thinks the ‘hinge’ verse to what will take place in the not-so-distant future is Joel 3:1-3…which needed the return of Jerusalem as Israel’s captiol to become ‘current and relevant’
    …as of 1967; the remainder is in motion.

  428. We became Government owned Chattel, when we assumed the designation of former “slaves” or
    [ 14th Amendment Citizens ]

    Read it and Weep

    Joyce Rosenwald has really done her homework, and has an overwhelming amount of educational information on her site, here…

    Joyce Rosenwald. com

  429. Re-do: Good question…but maybe, the question is: Is ACORN a corporation? With all of its subsidiaries [groups] and tentacles, it appears to be more than an “organization.” With all of the “entities” they listed residing at the same address, one would think they are all one big happy “family.” Or maybe, they are “mini companies” that belong to a corporation or “departments” in one company since they all get their funds from the same “pot.” Beats me, Re-do…but now they consider themselves “international” since they changed their name.
    Have to ask a RICO expert, but it seems, to me a non-expert, they would go after individuals first, representatives of the “corporation.” If they could prove, this was “SOS” [standard operating procedure], then maybe the corporation may be liable as well. There is also Fraud, Waste, and Abuse…we could ask Al Gore since that was his specialty when he served as VP under Clinton. What did you have in mind?

  430. looks like according to orly’s reply to the Land’s decision, that Land screwed up—perhaps on purpose– by not following the district’s own rules which may open the door for appeal and get this case out of Land’s court and up the ladder. Maybe he screwed upon purpose???

    What next? Read her compliant she goes after him with what looks like some heavy hitting errors. What next?

  431. The South,

    THANKS for the link to Joyce.

    I had listened to one of the podcasts a while back, but I couldn’t catch her last name. Now I have it! I want to learn more about her and her work. It’s all so surreal because it is counter to what we’ve been taught.

  432. da verg,

    I’m not a lawyer, but it looks like it may indeed work out in her favor. I’m hoping another patriot attorney helped her out…I can’t imagine being in her shoes with what seems to be the weight of the world on her shoulders.

  433. The South: Do you know if the 14th Amendment was ever ratified by the states?

  434. While you folks were debating the “mass genocide” Congress just defunded ACORN. 75 Dems voted against:


  435. Didn’t someone here point out that Judge Land’s decision may have ‘shut a door’ and ‘opened a window?’ I think Dr. Taitz is calling Land out and making him “eat his words.” According to Martha Stewart, “It’s a good thing!” IMHO

  436. Isn’t Orly also waiting for Judge Carter’s court to rule in California? When is that coming down?

  437. JustMe-I think Alan Keyes is helping, he is very knowledgeable, and a very cool head, maybe others-this is a ton of information and legal work for just one person. Orly always asked for help if she felt she needed it. Alan Keyes also knows Obama for what he is.

  438. jbjd, Go here http://www.redemptionservice.com/contents/secured_party_creditor.asp I can not highlight any text nor right click. Obviously some kind of protection code…you might want to research that..

  439. JJ–yes, I had read that also. It’s supposed to be in the needles. Just found it again:

    This is the speaker:


  440. Patriot Dreamer

    video: Pelosi warns of political violence


    Now I ask you all, who said, “get in their faces”, “if they bring a knife to the fight, we’ll bring a gun”, and “hit them back twice as hard”?

    Just who has called American citizens exercising their First Amendment rights to free speech as “un-American”, “evil-mongers”, “brown shirts”, etc?

  441. You Decide

    Did President Obama cave in to the Russians?

    Did Obama Cave?

    President Obama announced Thursday he was scrapping the Bush administration’s plans for a missile defense shield in Eastern Europe, claiming that intelligence shows the Iranian threat has changed. Critics, however, say the president is simply caving in to Russia, which had expressed strong opposition to the plan’s deployment of radar bases in Poland and the Czech Republic, and say Iran “now makes the longest range missile in the terrorist world.” Did President Obama cave in to the Russians?


  442. Patriot Dreamer

    Not to mention “racist”.

  443. The embed code doesn’t seem to be good. Here is the site for the RFID stuff and the former Kansas trooper that is talking about it:


  444. I have to say I love Hannah and James who successfully made chumps out of our entire media. Can the media rise to the occasion and look alive? I mean really would you want to be bested by 2 young and inexperienced 20 year olds? Of course those two are much more experienced and wise to the world now.

  445. Linda from NY.

    Carl says he has proof that the 14th was illegally ratified at the point of a bayonett, but is not willing to release it just yet. He’s putting something together with Bob, Joyce, and Rod.

    I’m not sure what to make of this, and haven’t had time to research it. He gave me this though…

    GA Archives

    RG 37-1-15

    Vol 2-10773

    S.R. Np. 39 Act No. 45

    Approved March 8, 1957

    And for another important one..,

    H.R. No. 174-554d

    Res. No. 100

    Approved March 13, 1957

    Maybe some of our legal researchers here could bring some light to this?

  446. CW: I think the “nays” on this vote should go on your “accountability list” of those not serving in our best interest.”

  447. Patriot Dreamer

    Democratic pollster says the ACORN controversy poses a “huge risk” to the Democratic party.

  448. HonorFirst, interesting post!
    Very shrewd observation.

  449. Linda.
    I hear you loud & clear.

  450. The South: Didn’t the pp reference himself a ‘native citizen’ according to the 14th Amendment? Could that be significant?

  451. Patriot Dreamer

    Camille Paglia: “Birthers” Aren’t Racist, and They Have a Point

  452. If you have this, then I apologize, but make your vote count now at Fox News: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2009/09/17/freeze-acorns-operations-assets/

    Guess I don’t have to tell you that I voted for the first one.

  453. Thanks kittcat! I voted.

  454. Linda from NY.

    Who’s the …… ” pp ” ?

  455. C.N.D.E. Ville II

    Judge Land, Sir: Re: Captain Rhodes

    My apologies. My bad. Inordinate frustration levels impede my clarity of thought.

    Please add: Ample evidence that Mr. Obama is not American born exists as well.
    Not American born + Lacking two American parents = No presidency

    Also, my “what if” questions are more effective in a form that reflects present reality, such as:

    Given the arguable possibility that Mr. Obama is not, in effect, a lawful CinC, military folk face the prospect of facing charges of treason for communicating and obeying unlawful orders.

    Allegiance to the Constitution, expressed in the military oath vs. following a CinC who is not Constitution certified places our military folk in an almost impossible situation which affects every military decision they make.

    Military code contains a provision prohibiting soldiers from obeying an unlawful order. The regulation presumes an underlying expectation that every soldier is required to think and act, not merely to blindly and unquestioningly obey. Disobedience to this regulation carries heavy penalties. Military folk have a right to know that obeying the CinC does not equal disobeying the code provision.

    Something like the above more clearly reflects the issues about which I so brashly sought to enlighten you.

    The case you dismissed, rather than being about “issues,” is, in fact, about the lives of our much loved family members.
    This week, soldiers died in combat in Afghanistan due to the fact that the helicopter did not arrive to cover them. Let me say that again. U.S. commanders did not send the helicopter due to new rules in place from the CinC.

    We were not there to back up our soldiers. We are America. We back up our folk, NO MATTER WHAT! We do not leave them there until they run out of ammunition. We do not leave them there as sitting ducks to be gunned down when we have the power to extricate them.

    Consider that you are the person giving the orders. You know, YOU KNOW, in your gut, you know, we do not hang our guys out to dry. You are trained, though, well trained to obey orders, a must for the military.

    Orders in place from the CinC prevent you from providing back-up. Orders in place from the CinC are the ONLY reason you do not send the helicopter.

    Maybe you hear the voices of the soldiers telling you to send help. Maybe you hear an audio play by play of their last moments. Maybe you personally know the people who are trusting you to back them up.

    Now you have to live with the call you made. Did you follow unlawful orders? What if you did? You cannot give back the lives of their loved ones to grieving families.

    Clearly, Captain Rhodes and the other military people face a horrendous lose/lose situation.

    I prayed that you would take the case, Judge Land. I prayed that truth and resolution would unfold in your courtroom. Why?

    A simple reason.

    That was MY family, dying out there, with help within reach. America failed to back up my people, for no good reason. That was Captain Rhodes dying out there. That was Major Cook, Lt. Easterling dying out there. That was my neighbor’s child, my co-worker’s husband, my baby-sitter’s father, my mailperson’s sister, my other neighbor’s grandson, expended NEEDLESSLY. The Commanders heard their calls for back up and left them there alone. That is NOT America.

  456. The South: pretend president

  457. It’s amazing that these judges are sweeping all these lawsuits under the rug, putting soldiers in harms way, and subject to military court martials for disobeying orders.

    And why? All for what?

    Just so Mr. Obama doesn’t have to show us a birth certificate?

    That birth certificate must really be important.

  458. Linda from NY.


    Not sure if that’s what he said?

  459. Linda from NY, you’re so very welcome!

  460. All-
    “If the Democrats continue to ignore the apparent fraud taking place with taxpayer money, they will pay a price politically,” predicted former Florida governor Jeb Bush (R) in an e-mail exchange with the Fix
    As a registered Democrat I would say that the Dems already got there. Most Democrats are center left/right depending on the issue. Please Republicans keep pointing out the graft, corruption, collusion, Obama Crimes in general. Very soon if not right now, all that will remain of Obama’s support will be his core 10 per cent extreme left wing Anti-American wing of the party, from the videos looks like 5 per cent of those will be in the slammer.
    I will bet ACORN and SEIU is also into drug running and other crimes. Those underage illegal aliens that they put into prostitution-lured by the promise of real jobs, a lot of times end up murdered. I wonder if they will find murder when these investigations really heat up.

  461. Just found this about 30 minutes ago…. Gotta give Dr. Taitz a lot of credit…….wish my “junkyard dogs” were just as tenacious!

  462. Patriot Dreamer

    PP also reminds me of “wee-weed up”! LOL!


  463. Patriot Dreamer,

    Don’t worry; the documents that will do her in are in process. as soon as I have the VA Certification documents in hand, she’s going down. That is, I will draft the election fraud complaint in VA; of course, if she had failed to authenticate BO’s Constitutional eligibility before Certifying to elections officials in VA he was eligible for the job then…

  464. http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=CNG.a2e736d334e760c3afc9d72bbc9a211c.bb1&show_article=1

    So let’s see.

    China is fast becoming the leading global cyberpower.

    It has savings in the trillions.

    It is quickly amassing goods and real estate internationally.

    Everybody knows its population.

    It is negotiating oil reserve leases on foreign soil.

    It is undermining U.S. military power in the Pacific with its increasingly advanced weaponry.

    I say its cyberpower is probably the most signigicant and needs the utmost closest surveillance.

    I truly hope the wars are in cyberspace and not at sea.

  465. the 14th ammendment says nothing about natural born citizenship, read Leo’s blog

    Carter is to rule on oct 5th, or thereabout

    yes orly’s response was spot on
    for those items, i just wish she would have hit harder on fact that obma is not NBC by obama’s own admission, his father not a US citizen

    and yes Pelosi is off in la la land with her
    “gay” card play, it falls in same category as Carter’s race card……both are jokers, not Aces.


  466. C.N.D.E. Ville II-You wrote this perfectly. These soldiers are our family-fellow Americans. Obama is not now nor ever has he been an NBC. Due to his illegal orders I would say he murdered those soldiers.

  467. Article: Proof of a DNC Conspiracy to Elect an Ineligible O:


  468. Patriot Dreamer


    I’m not really worried about Pelosi. She’s running scared now – her words show it.

    I’ve been thinking about your complaint. Many states are having elections fairly soon, which means that there will be some new governors and attorneys general. It might be wise to have folks resend their complaints after the elections if their governor or attorney general changes.

  469. Truth Exists (Paulajal)

    Patriot Dreamer, It might be wise for folks to ask anyone running their stance on the eligibility issue before they vote.

  470. The 14th amendment was NOT properly ratified and yes, some were held essentially at gunpoint. This is common knowledge and has been for years. See the book “Politically Incorrect Guide to the Constitution”, for instance. Several other amendments are either unratified or suspicious. The question is what to do about it. They have been in-place for so long – and much MUCH case law is built on the 14th – how can it be unwound?

    CAUTION: Be wary of congressional votes to “defund” ACORN. I smell a political ploy. We must ride this one hard and make sure ACORN, all of its siblings, and all of its offspring are killed dead DEAD, forever.

  471. http://www.theweek.com/bullpen/column/100521/Obama_heads_for_foreign_policy_disaster

    I think I may have to disagree with the author here: I think Obama is looking for a train wreck as dictated by his puppetmaster, Soros.

  472. Michelle // September 17, 2009 at 4:01 pm

    Can the sovereign We The People gather up the murderous usurper and sent him off to The Hague to be put on trial for War Crimes?

  473. #

    Richard // September 17, 2009 at 3:54 pm

    Just found this about 30 minutes ago…. Gotta give Dr. Taitz a lot of credit…….wish my “junkyard dogs” were just as tenacious!

    Yes…Orly is awesome….she is asking for help for other attorneys….I hope some will bite….JeffM….you should email her with your ideas too!!!

  474. ********* New Post *********

  475. jbjd….did you ever get my message that Bob Campbell from AGJ was trying to reach you???

  476. Canadian4Hillary

    Hello! Wow, you guys have been busy! so much info since I last visited…

    FergieGirl…hmmm I had wondered about the dealership closings…Wouldn’t surprize me abit if this it true (close Repubs & keep Dem dealerships)

    JJ, re: chips…I wont be getting a flu shot, but this is very troubling also!

    Anyone else feel like we are living a nightmare from hell!

    Make me wonder what side O is on, killing missile defense! & drudgereport has article that Iran is ready with bomb….who to believe!

    I’m so sick of this race baiting (Carter) & all…& O on tv day after day!

    Just keep up the great work & stay safe!

  477. Canadian4Hillary,

    Good to see you. How have you been?

  478. JustMe // September 17, 2009 at 1:45 pm

    I lost computer access today, so I’m catching up.

    Yes, I saw the second article regarding Japan; I had posted my previous reply as you were posting that one. Let me just say that viral mutations can be caused by many factors: The bug itself, the individual, or the socio-economic climate of where it occurs, among other things. Many variables involved.

    The WHO, as well as individual states (here) and countries can’t test every sample they receive; they generally graph the incidences of confirmed flu and extrapolate from there. I haven’t trusted the WHO from the get-go.

    The report that you mention is known. Let me just say that this type of ‘operation’ has been going on for some time. Unethical, sure, but they want to know how the population reacts to either a real pandemic, or a manufactured one. This H1N1 belongs to the latter category.

  479. The American Grand Jury was dealt a huge loss this week as well. The judge denied the convening of a grand jury , told them it was frivolous and if they keep filing their “presentments” they will be summarily denied or dismissed due to lack of standing. He was pissed!

  480. looks like according to orly’s reply to the Land’s decision, that Land screwed up—perhaps on purpose– by not following the district’s own rules which may open the door for appeal and get this case out of Land’s court and up the ladder. Maybe he screwed upon purpose???

    No, No, No!! The honorable thing to do would have been to get this thing over, take care of business, this idea of shifting it from one court to the other, get on with it!!!

  481. Just another POS judge that thinks he can make up the rules as ho goes.

  482. Hey, how’s it going?

    I want to pass along some very important news that everyone needs to hear!

    In December of 2017, Donald Trump made history by recognizing Jerusalem as the captial of Israel. Why is this big news? Because by this the Jewish people of Israel are now able to press forward in bringing about the Third Temple prophesied in the Bible.

    The Jewish people deny Jesus as their Messiah and have stated that their Messiah has been identified and is waiting to be revealed. They say this man will rule the world under a one world religion called “spiritualism”.

    They even printed a coin to raise money for the Temple with Donald Trumps face on the front and with king Cyrus'(who built the second Temple) behind him. On the back of the coin is an image of the third Temple.

    The Bible says this false Messiah who seats himself in the Third Temple will be thee antichrist that will bring about the Great Tribulation, though the Jewish people believe he will bring about world peace. It will be a false peace for a period of time. You can watch interviews of Jewish Rabbi’s in Israel speaking of these things. They have their plans set in place. It is only years away!

    More importantly, the power that runs the world wants to put a RFID microchip in our body making us total slaves to them. This chip matches perfectly with the Mark of the Beast in the Bible, more specifically Revelation 13:16-18:

    He causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads, and that no one may buy or sell except one who has the mark or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

    Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man: His number is 666.

    Referring to the last days, this could only be speaking of a cashless society, which we have yet to see, but are heading towards. Otherwise, we could still buy or sell without the mark amongst others if physical money was still currency. RFID microchip implant technology will be the future of a one world cashless society containing digital currency. It will be implanted in the right-hand or the forehead, and we cannot buy or sell without it! We must grow strong in Jesus. AT ALL COSTS, DO NOT TAKE IT!

    Then a third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, “If anyone worships the beast and his image, and receives his mark on his forehead or on his hand, he himself shall also drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out full strength into the cup of His indignation. He shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb. And the smoke of their torment ascends forever and ever; and they have no rest day or night, who worship the beast and his image, and whoever receives the mark of his name.” (Revelation 14:9-11).

    People have been saying the end is coming for many years, but we need two key things. One, the Third Temple, and two, the technology for a cashless society to fulfill the prophecy of the Mark of the Beast.


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