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The mainstream media is still not covering Acorn corruption, voter fraud, ties to Obama and recently is ignoring the shocking videos reported on Fox News. Extensive research was done on Acorn many years ago for the Catholic Bishops and real journalists such as Michelle Malkin and Larry Johnson pioneered revealing Obama’s ties to Acorn. The Citizen Wells blog reported the following on October 8, 2008.
Catholic Bishops report on community organizing, Acorn

“Introduction: This commentary is submitted to the Catholic Bishops of the United States with respect to their possible consideration of changes in the organization, funding, and structure of the Campaign for Human Development (CHD). It is essential to note, however, the limited purpose and scope of this commentary:”

“COMMUNITY ORGANIZING: During the funding period of 1992-1995, CHD gave significant grants to community organizing efforts that implement many of the organizational techniques recommended by Saul Alinsky.”

“The Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN) which is also patterned on Alinsky’s organizational recommendations, recruits individual members.”

“To be eligible to receive CHD funds, a program must be run by the poor, benefit the poor, and change social structures that harm the poor.” However, in light of the politically oriented thrust of ACORN’s activities, it is fair to ask whether the CHD subsidies to ACORN are advisable and commensurate with the purposes of CHD.”

“This commentary does not oppose CHD funding of genuine, grassroots community organizations, run and supported by individual members of a parish or diocese. There is potential value and virtue in the collective voice. However, when the CHD funds Alinsky-style, church-based community organizations as in the best interest of the poor and supports organizations which advance other agendas, it divests the poor of their right to an authentic voice. This process tends to treat the poor as exploited units of human capital, rather than as human beings created in the dignity of God’s image.”

“There are alternative, self-determined organizations of the poor, which are supportive of life. Those alternative, grassroots community organizations do not merely serve their constituency but rather they are their constituency. They do not use community organizing to further an additional agenda.”
“It would be reasonable for the bishops to consider:

The immediate cessation of all CHD funding to Alinsky-style, church-based community organizations.

To accomplish its goals, as outlined in the People’s Platform, ACORN has developed a political alliance with the Democratic Socialists of America (DSA). Together with others, ACORN and the DSA have formed a political party, the New Party.

National ACORN president, Maud Hurd, along with Dr. Cornel West (honorary chair of the Democratic Socialists of America) and a representative from the Reproductive Rights Coalition Fund, are listed as New Party supporters.”

Oct 8, 2008 Acorn, Catholic Bishops report, New Party, Democratic Socialists of America

From the Catholic News Service October 16, 2008:

“CCHD ends funding to ACORN over financial irregularities”
“The Catholic Campaign for Human Development suspended funding a nationwide community organizing group after it was disclosed June 2 that nearly $1 million had been embezzled.”

“”We’re not funding them at any level,” McCloud told Catholic News Service Oct. 15.

The suspension covers all 40 ACORN affiliates nationwide that had been approved for $1.13 million in grants for the funding cycle that started July 1, 2008.”

“Since revealing its financial troubles, the organization has come under intense scrutiny because of its voter registration practices. In several states voter registration forms have been found to include nonexistent or dead people. Some registrants have told elections officials they completed multiple cards at the urging of ACORN canvassers who claimed they would be fired if they did not meet a daily quota for signing up new voters.”

Read more:

http://www.catholicnews.com/data/stories/cns/0805268.htm
From Capital Research   in 2000

“As already noted, CCHD still funds several branches of ACORN, known for it’s radical protests against banks that fail to meet ACORN’s quotas for housing loans issued to low-income borrowers. ACORN demands that banks comply with it’s interpretation of fair lending practices and advocates for a higher minimum wage, federally subsidized housing, higher taxes and a repeal of the home mortgage interest tax deduction.”

Read more:

http://www.capitalresearch.org/pubs/pdf/Foundation%20Watch%20October%202000.pdf

US bishops cut off funding to ACORN

“November 12, 2008
Auxiliary Bishop Roger Morin of New Orleans, chairman of the US bishops’ Catholic Campaign for Human Development (CCHD) committee, announced yesterday that the campaign would no longer fund the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN).”

Bishop Roger Morin memorandum:

“Last June, CCHD cut off funding of grants to ACORN (Association of Community
Organizations for Reform Now) groups because of questions that had arisen about financial
management, fiscal transparency and organizational accountability of the national ACORN
structures.”
“Recent widespread reports of alleged ACORN involvement in voter registration
controversies and allegations of fraud raise additional serious concerns.”

“The current halt of ACORN funding means that no CCHD funds are
involved in any of these activities. Nonetheless, the suspension of all ACORN funding will not
be lifted until and unless it is clear that CCHD funds will not go to an organization that has
engaged in unlawful activities or voter registration fraud, even though this does not involve
CCHD funds.”….Bishop Roger Morin memorandum

The following report was prepared for the Catholic Bishops in 1997 and covers the period of time close to when Obama was a community organizer and involved directly with ACORN

“A Commentary on the Campaign for Human Development
Prepared for the Catholic Bishops of the United States
Prepared by the Wanderer Forum Foundation”

“This commentary is intended for the use of the Catholic Bishops of the United States in their consideration of the issues discussed. However, it will also be made available to other persons interested in these issues.”
A. ACORN

1. ACORN received approximately 5% of the national CHD annual budget between 1992-1995. Between the years of 1992-1995, ACORN received $1,493,000 in national CHD grants.

2. ACORN’s People’s Platform was written in 1978 and ratified in 1979 at ACORN’s national convention in St. Louis. The document was revised and re-approved in 1990 at ACORN’s national 20th Anniversary Convention in Chicago and is in effect at present. Among other things, the ACORN People’s Platform specifies that ACORN demands that the United States :

· “create a national health-care system” in which “all medical costs are covered” and in which doctors are provided a medical “education subsidized by the federal government.” [section on Health Care, # I & II]

· “create more housing” by setting a “goal of a million new units of federally subsidized housing per year.” [section on Housing, #I]

· “charge government and big business with the final responsibility for full employment.” [section on Work and Workers’ Rights, #II]

· “guarantee a minimum annual family income…” [section on Work and Workers’ Rights, #III]

· develop schools that are “available for community needs, like adult education” and “job training that is linked to specific employment,” and which “can provide all support and services that a child cannot receive at home.” [section on Education, #II & IV]

3. To accomplish its goals, as outlined in the People’s Platform, ACORN has developed a political alliance with the Democratic Socialists of America (DSA). Together with others, ACORN and the DSA have formed a political party, the New Party.

a. National ACORN president, Maud Hurd, along with Dr. Cornel West (honorary chair of the Democratic Socialists of America) and a representative from the Reproductive Rights Coalition Fund, are listed as New Party supporters.

b. Bronx ACORN operates a New Party chapter out of its headquarters.

c. In a drive to identify political allies, the New Party held “extensive discussions” in 1994 with “high ranking officials in labor (teamsters, electrical workers, oil workers, bus drivers, etc.); grassroots environmentalists with Greenpeace, Citizens Clearinghouse on Hazardous Waste and Friends of the Earth; community organizations like ACORN and the Industrial Areas Foundation; DSA [Democratic Socialists of America] and Sane/Freeze, and scores of important local organizations.”

d. By 1996, New Party alliances with ACORN, the IAF, Sustainable America, and others, promoted “living wage” campaigns around the country. ACORN has also promoted the Income Equity Act of 1997 (H.R. 687, 105th Congress), which would place federal control over executive earnings by “denying tax deductions for executive compensation that exceeds 25 times the company’s lowest paid full-time employee.””
“During the 1990s, ACORN has been openly active in Congressional lobbying. Its leadership operates, “…from inside positions of power. ACORN’s work on the savings and loan bailout provided effective means of developing and applying power…ACORN members won appointment to the Resolution Trust Corporation to help determine the management of the billions of dollars of assets the government seized.”

   
“ACORN’s educational activism was described by Jennifer Anderson from the CHD-funded NY-ACORN at the 1995 25th CHD Anniversary Conference in Chicago. NY-ACORN is establishing alternative “New Visions Schools” within the New York public school system. During her workshop: “School Reform Sweeping the Nation,” Ms. Anderson identified the reform model which NY-ACORN schools are emulating as the Debbie Meier experimental public school model (the Networks for School Renewal).”

“Academically, the Debbie Meier educational model includes substantive restructuring. Standardized testing is eliminated: “For instance, to put the sort of intense emphasis on standardized testing…meant, in practice, the gearing of curricula specifically to prepare students to pass narrowly focused tests-with little attention to the broader array of skills and critical capacities essential in a real world environment…In contrast…an alternative began to emerge.” Parents and educators must be re-educated to accept this restructuring: “But for democratic school approaches [such as the Deborah Meier model] to work necessitated not only changes in the formal structure of education but also effective, skillful training and some clear public commitment to an alternative understanding of educational purposes themselves.” These “educational purposes” can facilitate the training of new community organizers. In ACORN’s New Visions School in New York, Local 1199 School for Social Change, “…students analyze public health issues, the organization of community groups, the development of public policy and the international labor movement. Students are involved in hands-on activities in order to relate classroom learning to community service. These activities range from participation in labor and community organization movements to service as interns at local health care facilities.””
“The Catholic Bishops of the United States ought to reconsider the structure, funding, and activities of the Campaign for Human Development.

This commentary does not oppose CHD funding of genuine, grassroots community organizations, run and supported by individual members of a parish or diocese. There is potential value and virtue in the collective voice. However, when the CHD funds Alinsky-style, church-based community organizations as in the best interest of the poor and supports organizations which advance other agendas, it divests the poor of their right to an authentic voice. This process tends to treat the poor as exploited units of human capital, rather than as human beings created in the dignity of God’s image.

Nor is there any basis for the CHD to imply by its actions that there are no alternative organizations that it can fund to promote valuable institutional change, uninfluenced by a politicized agenda. There is no necessity for CHD funds to go to organizations which contribute to or participate in any way in the political support of abortion. There is no necessity for CHD to fund Alinsky-style, church-based community organizations. There are alternative, self-determined organizations of the poor, which are supportive of life. Those alternative, grassroots community organizations do not merely serve their constituency but rather they are their constituency. They do not use community organizing to further an additional agenda.

It would be reasonable for the bishops to consider:

The immediate cessation of all CHD funding to Alinsky-style, church-based community organizations.

The immediate cessation of all CHD funding to any organization that directly or indirectly promotes an agenda contrary to the social justice teachings of the Church.”….Catholic Bishops report

Do you remember hearing about any of the above from the mainstream media?

Are your concerns about Obama speaking to school children unfounded?

With the availability of information about ACORN on the internet, with the kind hearted CHD cutting off funding to ACORN in 2008, there is no excuse for Congress taking so long.

I believe that Senator Shelby is requesting an investigation. Let’s make sure it is thorough and let the chips fall where they may.

536 responses to “Acorn, Catholics cut funding in 2008, Catholic Bishops report, CHD funding, Acorn fraud, voter fraud, Community organizers, Obama, Democratic Socialists of America, DSA, New Party, Socialists endorsed Obama, political agenda, poor as exploited units of human capital, Saul Alinsky, schools train new community organizers

  1. They will just repackage their group under a new name. Thats the bigger problem. Where do a a bunch of thugs go for work now! to a neighborhood near you

  2. Patriot Dreamer

    JJ // September 15, 2009 at 4:03 pm

    JJ // September 15, 2009 at 3:58 pm
    “Health-Care Reform and the Constitution”
    by Judge Andrew Napolitano

    How about the 10th Amendment???? I keep them on my desk now…….

    (sorry, I am upset now, left out important part)
    This is in response to this:

    Then he shot back: “How about [you] show me where in the Constitution it prohibits the federal government from doing this?”

    well, here it is………The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
    Someone correct me if I’m wrong!!
    ***************************************
    JJ, you are correct. Safety (police, fire) and health have traditionally been the responsibility of the states under the 10th amendment and state constitutions. One of the (many) reasons people do not like the health care bills currently in Congress is because they are tired of the interstate commerce clause being used to justify legislation that really has nothing to do with regulating commerce between the states. If the people in this country really want the federal government to be in charge of health care, then let’s do something really “zany” and amend the constitution to give the federal government that power. A more appropriate use of the interstate commerce clause power would be to remove the government restrictions that prohibit selling health insurance policies across lines. True competition between insurance companies would bring some of the costs of health insurance down.

  3. Magna Carta (from the previous post): I hope Orly’s case isn’t ruined! She’s closest to getting this out in the open as anyone has been.

    Hope she hasn’t shot herself in the foot with her zeal.

  4. From previous post,

    Jenna, did you see this?

    http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSTRE58E6TL20090915

    Not passing the health care bill I fear would be Obama’s Waterloo.

  5. Sue K there are people who are not happy with her work,style approach so they are taking it upon them selves to investigate Orly. Go to investigating Obama website + Sinclair’s site + Betrayal to get an angle on this.Noone here seems hip to it yet.
    Also, I read that she did get discovery and judge ordered a court date (Officially???) see what you come up with.

  6. We aren’t sitting up Orly to be the fall guy here, are we now?.

    I thought Ali bama an the 40 czars was the bad guys……………

    Anyway, good post at Orly’s blog……

  7. I’ve read all of that today at IO. Personally I think that others should put aside their egos for now and concentrate on the BO issue.

  8. Patriot Dreamer

    US credit shrinks at Great Depression rate prompting fears of double-dip recession

    Both bank credit and the M3 money supply in the United States have been contracting at rates comparable to the onset of the Great Depression since early summer, raising fears of a double-dip recession in 2010 and a slide into debt-deflation.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/financetopics/recession/6190818/US-credit-shrinks-at-Great-Depression-rate-prompting-fears-of-double-dip-recession.html

  9. http://www.oilforimmigration.org/
    Letter from a Marine!Wants whole US to see it!!!
    Scroll down to read!!
    GOD BLESS OUR TROOPS!!!!

  10. See the Democrats were pro slavery, started the KKK, the KKK was the terror arm of the DEMOKKKRATIC party, they murdered and tortured over 2,000 black republican reconstructionists and over 1,000 white republican reconstructionists, the Demokkkrats started Jim Crow laws, they’ve always seen themselves as elitists who profit off the backs of the oppressed, whether slave owners or profiteers, or slave sellers such as Obama’s family.
    That they use the oppressed by making false promises to them for their own power and wealth gains, is consistent with their entire history.
    Over 150 years of terrorism followed by 50 years of tokenism, and the Demokkkrats still think they are “worth more human points” than other human beings.
    They are not humanists, they are ELITISTS and for a bunch of dumbshits they sure are delusional at that!! That is why they had to go after Joe The Plumber and Sarah Palin, they were “regular people” and that is the ultimate threat to the cocktail crowd elitists who murmur amongst themselves how they will SOCIALLY ENGINEER other humanoids.

    Blacks were historically Republicans, it was the Demokkkrats who profited by keeping them down and they still DO. It is the duped blacks who think the Demokkkrats are there to help them…NO!…they are use them for their own gains.

  11. ACORN is already moving the main organization to a new name. Probably moving most of the zillion related companies as well.
    We need to demand that Congress not provide funds to any organization that has officers or board members who were members of any ACORN organization from 2008 to present without a complete audit.
    Without an audit the federal government should not be giving money to anyone, much less an organization that the US Congress suspects of being a criminal enterprise!

  12. Obama is ACORN.

    Glen is the first to state this on TV.

    99% of the judges in America are too weak kneed to stand up for the Constitution .

    Beck is on……….

  13. ALERT – BOMBSHELL: new ACORN video!

    ACORN Prostitution Scandal: California Here We Come!

    Part1:

  14. If you are watching Glenn Beck, you just heard the Acorn worker state
    that they lobby the CA official (did not catch name) for healthcare.

    From Catholic Bishops report:

    “create a national health-care system” in which “all medical costs are covered” and in which doctors are provided a medical “education subsidized by the federal government.”

  15. Obama the pimp

    beck is on

  16. Suspect woman in pink also strikes me as a hardcore drug addict based upon her jerky and exaggerated body movements.

  17. House resolution of disapproval just passed.
    Let’s flush that toilet!

  18. Can you just imagine the next Lame Cherry visual..oh brother!

  19. 7 Republicans voted against Wilson
    11 Democrats voted for Wilson

  20. Army DAV..Just delivering the stuff I saw. I hope all will settle on down and let’s see what Judge Carter will do.

  21. Let’s id the phony republicans.
    They are history!

  22. OMG! House formally rebukes Rep. Joe Wilson; 240 – 179!

    7 Republicans voted to rebuke;
    12 Democrats voted against;
    5 voted Present!

    This is terrible!

  23. Rush said today that the Vote to Rebuke Joe Wilson will be a good thing for him. He’ll raise more money than ever before. The Dems always go too far.

    Did anyone watch Beck? Wow!

  24. CW

    I guess I got it too close to home when I earlier stated that the current health care scheme would require revamping medical education into a social engineering institution.

    The tradition of medical training rests on young doctors to utilize the wisdom of traditional teachings, to modify this knowledge with innovative thinking and most importantly to have the wisdom to know the difference.

    It requires the rigor of disciplined learning with the spirit of creative innovation over the course of a lifetime.

    Not a chance that anybody with those abilities would subject themselves to self-destructive and destructive indoctrination.

    Indoctrination by the way means accepting doctrines uncritically. The essence of medical training, without which one cannot serve the public, hinges on critical thinking.

    Any doctor prepared to be “indoctrinated” will not be a doctor by any measure that the U.S. has thus witnessed.

  25. CW: Yes, let’s get their names…shame on them!

    Let’s circulate our own “Resolution to Rebuke” the pp for lying to Congress and the American people!

    What say you?

  26. I still watching Beck now. Something needs to be done in a huge way. This is just totally sick.

  27. Linda from NY

    This is terrible!

    *****************

    From an illegitimate self- installed government with no constitutional authority ,

    this is called tyranny…………….

  28. Don’t let them divide our side. Isn’t that Obama’s way? Divide and conquer. I hope we don’t fall for it.

  29. If anyone had any doubt that the whole health care “crisis” is based on a lie and is all about control, there doubt should be put to rest as to the intentions of these criminals.

    My heart is breaking over what I just heard about the abuse of 13 yr old illegal girls. Just can’t even express my emotions. None of these ppl care about these little ones health care, which we really already addressed long ago and anyone can go to emergency and get cared for on the public dime. NO ONE who treats these precious young human beings like this deserves to have ANY agenda passed or have ANY trust in them whatsoever!

    Absolutely heart-broken….

  30. So what?
    Joe Wilson’s a big boy, he can handle it.

    But these NeoProgs have just trapped themselves into keeping their mouths shut when Sarah Palin speaks to them in a few years.

  31. Ha Ha Ha

    Every time the NeoProgs show their true colors, they get thrown out of office in droves.
    I love it. Keep calling Americans names!

  32. Tina, We need to kick the bad apples OUT of the Republican party so we will not be divided! I tend to agree with Rush on this that a 3rd party would be disasterous, so sticking together and holding feet to the fire is the best thing. Part of the process will be going at “bad apples” fiercly, especially those in the Republican party IMO.

    Constitution and small gov’t PERIOD. All the other disagreements are minute comparitively speaking and are mute if we don’t do this.

  33. For all those who watched Glenn Beck just now.
    Did you notice that he mentioned old Joe McCarthy (Rep) of Wisconsin of 1950’s fame.
    A fact that is little known is that Joe Kennedy loved him and made sure that Bobby workrd for him on Catitol Hill. Make sure all your liberal friends know this.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_P._Kennedy,_Sr.#Alliance_with_Senator_McCarthy

  34. Ace, The rules never apply to them! That’s the problem. They will yell all sorts of lies to and about Sarah and the Republican will LET them! This is what has been so dang frustrating to me over the years. We need to keep Joe and hire alot more just like him!

  35. GBAmerica // September 15, 2009 at 4:49 pm

    Thanks, GB-I cried through that. I was also upset by it, because of the fact that this illegal usurping bastid has put service people like Aaron in harm’s way.

    Damn bastid!

  36. A hearse labeled ‘Obamacare’ joins the Tea Party march on Washington on Saturday

    http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/53997

  37. ALEX JONES IS AN A$$HOLE – George Noury of COASTTOCOAST.COM Has Removed him from his show.

  38. Now that Joe Wilson has had his slap on the wrist, the Republicans should insist that Congress go after Charlie Rangel. What’s good for the goose . . . only Charlie is really guilty of bad behavior.

  39. #

    Linda from NY // September 15, 2009 at 5:44 pm

    OMG! House formally rebukes Rep. Joe Wilson; 240 – 179!

    7 Republicans voted to rebuke;
    12 Democrats voted against;
    5 voted Present!

    This is terrible!
    ———————————————————–

    Please get names for these people so we can start the calling!!

  40. cq – I hope Alex Jones’ body is in that hearse!!

  41. Well, my husband didn’t see Beck earlier, but we had it taped and I also watched it again. My heart just breaks because this country has so many liberal flakes and they don’t have any type of morals whatsoever. At least the people who have morals and a love of this country is more right now than the other. I do agree a huge investigation should be done pronto.

  42. You Decide

    Should the federal government require private agencies and their workers to clear background checks before getting taxpayer money?

    http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2009/09/15/decide-acorn-background-check/

  43. It is the duped blacks who think the Demokkkrats are there to help them…NO!…they are use them for their own gains.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    The Republican party even has a small 3″ by 4″ book explaining and educating this; as I changed parties, it was given to me and wow, it opened my eyes…it should be mandatory reading for every black, poor, before they vote.

  44. ACORN AND ALL ITS SUBS. GO AFTER THEM

    IT WILL LEAD TO THE WHITE HOUSE

  45. Glenn is on during my commute time and I can’t watch; I was able to listen this morning.

    Does someone have a link they could send so that I can see?

    TY!

  46. Linda from NY
    Have news on Joe Wilson’s constituents are saying they are speaking for us, most are very proud of him.

  47. Ticktoc: It’s the attorneys I was referring to. They have to work together. So many want to tear Orly down while they beg us for money to support their cause. They have to remember what our cause is…getting rid of Obama. Don’t loose the forest for the trees.

  48. Michelle: That is good to hear! There appears to be a fundraising war going on in SC, too! Any news on how that is going?

    Do you know how we can get a list of those who voted for the resolution to rebuke? We need to keep track of the representatives in both the House and the Senate that vote against our best interests.

  49. Hi Sorry, was not educated politically, although that is changing quickly, what happened to Joe Wilson? He still has his job? Does he pay a fine? (If so, ??) A native, or natural -born, are those born in a country with citizen parents… for a society….

  50. Thanks Venice! No, I had not seen that article but there is so much more to all of this I am sure. I am so angry right now…My kids just said that their teacher gave them an assignment to watch at least 2 of the interviews Obama is doing this Sunday. Well, we are going to make an unplanned trip to to our boat on Catawba and for some reason our TV’s won’t be working….
    Have a good evening everyone, I’m off for a cocktail!~

  51. National news still on-just reported on Acorn-prostitution sting in several cities, Congress will look into it. Referred to voter fraud and other legal issues (corruption).
    Bertha Lewis – lady at the top is calling it McCarthyism. I think she may go to jail to, she must have had some “clue”.
    I don’t think Bertha has ever been through an audit, she has no idea how much fun they can be.
    Real big trouble for Acorn need to trace the players to the new organizations. I doubt it will be any cleaner than this one.

  52. Have y’all seen WND yet? They have a good one that adds more of the video and in places that I haven’t seen. Listen around 1:53 + and see what you think.

    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=109844

  53. Margie.
    It is a slap on the wrist & that is all.
    Except that it will be a rallying cry.
    Huge Dem mistake.

  54. sure could use a bit of encouraging news right about now…

  55. ticktock-just so you know it isn’t just young girls. There was a big scandal here a professor at the University purchased a young boy in a South American country (poor) and used him as a slave (sex).
    It is so sick, know that there are those who are trying to help these young people. The professor got big time prison.

  56. 7:07: well, that’s a start…

  57. Linda.
    You read my mind.
    I have been working on this a long time.
    Stay tuned.

  58. at a different source, I think Yehaa news…right after the “you lie!”…reported it would be a rallying cry for the Dems…go figure…they need one? really?!

  59. Re-do.
    It has been mostly good news lately.
    Picture Nancy Pelosi removed as speaker in Jan 2011.

  60. CW, I see things progressing a lot faster these days. Hannity’s comment today, Glen Beck continuing his campaign, Rush getting into it as well, state reps clamoring about voter fraud, this could all come to a head very quickly and NP goes down with BHO if not before…(BBQ my house when it happens…)

  61. Jenna, what State are you in? I just called my Niece and read to her… my kids just said that thier teacher gave them an assignment to watch… and asked her, if she got that assignment too, and she said no. Michigan. Although now that I think about it, she may not tell me if she had, because she knows, I tell her what I was taught, and he is not a natural Born citizen. She would be afraid I would go to the school, and question it. That would embarrass her.

  62. If only I could do that withOUT having to “picture” NP…

  63. Linda from NY-they didn’t mention fund raising, interview with the folks at a local coffee shop, boy the food looked good, through the neighborhoods, just talking to the people. For the most part they love Joe and on camera say he is speaking for us. This KKK is such a reach.
    Either they are stupid, or they think Americans are stupid. I wonder if they even know what racism really is. I’m very serious.

  64. GG (& PD): will there be “signage” at the BBQ?

  65. The best and most stunningly comprehensive indictment of the former main-stream media EVER:

    http://spectator.org/archives/2009/09/15/media-malpractice-tom-brokaws/

  66. I hope I can remember how to spell BBQ when it goes down…you gonna create an invitation list from the head (or legs divided by two) count from ‘around the pond’ in D.C.?

  67. Jenna – have the kids do the report, but tie in his association with Acorn. Reams of it if you google Acorn Chicago-Obama’s name will come up a lot going back to 2003, maybe further.

  68. Greg Goss?? Where exactly is your house??? State??

  69. scroll down link to see great cartoon comic

    http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/

  70. Obama is failing badly right now. His fear is reflected in arranging to appear 5 times on Letterman. Even Nixon appeared on Saturday night live, but I think he did it only once.

    The economy is being buoyed by false supports and it is the only reason Obama’s numbers are where they are, albeit poor.

    Not only are Americans watching him, but the world is watching with keen eyes. I still believe his fall will come from international sources, and more likely surreptitiously.

  71. cq-Exactly how many crimes did the California whom confess to on camera? Sounds to me like premeditated murder on husband, it sounded like a set-up when she said she went to a womans shelter to set the murder up. She confessed to being a madame. She will be in jail soon too.

  72. GG: are you in the 56th or 57th state?

  73. Margie, We are in Ohio!
    Michelle- Oh I have plenty on Acorn and BO but it has to be on what he is speaking of. They are excellent students and not doing this won’t matter one bit. I’ll have my daughter wear her old Bush ’04 on Monday to stir things up! The Principals head will likely explode.

  74. Michelle,

    I don’t know, but I am laughing, laughter beyond laughter.
    this is toooo gooood!

  75. I ordered my “You Lie!” sticker for my car in support of Joe Wilson.

    Lou Dobbs mentioned that there were hardly any Democrats on the House floor speaking in support for the measure against Joe Wilson, even though, they voted for it. He thought the Democrats were afraid to speak on behalf of their own measure. They’re such hypocrits.

  76. http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com has the tally of votes on his site.

  77. Magna Carta // September 15, 2009 at 4:35 pm

    Evening, Magna,

    Just catching up after trying to keep posted at work (tough!).

    I think with Orly it’s a ‘he said/she said’ situation and we may never know what went on between Orly and Larry.

    Regarding the ‘expedited discovery’ I can find nothing that states that Judge Carter ordered this. The only court date I know of is 10/5 for the scheduling conference. Now, Judge Carter has *suggested* that the parties start discovery before that; it was not a court order, rather, voluntary.

    I’m also reading that a ‘conference of parties’ must be held at least 21 days prior to the scheduling conference. This conference would’ve had to have been held by by September 14. I don’t know if this was done. The report from that meeting is to be submitted to the court no later than 14 days prior to 10/5.

    If this conference of parties was not accomplished, I smell trouble…

    I may be wrong about this, and someone please correct me if I am, but it’s what I’m gathering-it’s all very hard to try to follow. I do know that she’s trying to have Gary Kreep thrown off the case…

  78. Jenna-what a naughty parent you are. old Bush ‘04 on Monday to stir things up! The Principals head will likely explode.-It’s never to early to teach children about the Constitution and their freedom of speech.
    One of my brothers used to get into this kind of trouble daily when he was in High School-always had to push the limit. He went to public, the rest of us went to Catholic, where the teachers would not put up with his nonsense for one minute. After the 20 th visit by my mother about his deportment she told the teachers why don’t you learn how to control these kids. In that school the kids ran it, using great teen age judgement. The kids had those teachers pegged and they ran with it. Sad.

  79. http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/54079

    Too important a headline at Drudge not to be broadcast. Larry’s Sinclair’s book also got a journalist’s attention and was told by editor he could not publish a review. Of course the latter’s content is incendiary for those who want to bury all the bodies (no pun intended honestly), but as usual the cover-up is the most important story.

  80. Sue K. see link below posted by orly

    why is judge Carter saying that- because I have to give Obama 30 days +3 days for mail and there is no reason to wait. On Sunday I submitted to the department of Justice electronically a proposed schedule of discovery. 33 days fall on October 17, I proposed deposition for October 19th Monday and left 4 weeks open,

    http://www.oilforimmigration.org/facts/?p=3362

  81. Sinclair filed something on Orly to Judge Carter. Its posted at :http://www.oilforimmigration.org

  82. Acorn investigation: the only legal and fair way to do this is just follow the evidence where it takes you. Most forensic and regular auditors are very knowledgeable people, somewhat those who are working on the Madoff mess trying to recoup what they can for the victims. One of his houses down here is for sale, along with all the contents. I think it is 7 million, understated elegance, great view, but on the chopping block it is. Where Bernie is he doesn’t need it anyway. Acorn is going to end up like Bernie-wait and see. Too many people on to the scam and man are some going to be singing. What did we hear Obama bragging about during the election “I’m a community organizer, what organization ACORN. I will bet you any money those poor people on the South Side of Chicago who were USED in such a cruel and vulgar way are glad this is going to be investigated finally.
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    Jarrett has pushed to integrate new developments by limiting the number of residents, mostly poor and black, who can live in the new communities. From the beginning, that stance clashed with efforts by residents and housing advocates to ensure the number of units set aside for the poor was as large as possible.
    I wonder how much Obama and Valerie skimmed off the top so not one cent could make it to these poor people. I hope they testify against those two.

  83. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2009/09/15/sen_wicker_pelosi_dems_scared_joe_wilson_becoming_a_hero.html

    Of course Joe Wilson is a hero. He responded passionately to a man who raises the ire like nobody else does. He has apologized for breaking house decorum rules and that is enough.

  84. This was recently posted by Lucas Smith on his youtube site. What is going on?

    Hello everyone. I am sorry but, I cannot work with Orly Taitz any longer. She wants me to lie under oath.
    Orly Taitz is not interested in the truth.
    No, this page has not been taken. This is Lucas Smith. If a video is needed I will upload something. Orly Taitz wants me to lie under oath about information that I had no knowledge of at the time I was in Africa. She wants me to make up names of people that I do not know the names of. She wants me to testify that Gary Kreep is a spy for Obama’s side, and that I have personal knowledge of this. Truth- I know nothing of Gary Kreep. My story is true but I wont embellish it with lies just to make Orly Taitz happy. There’s more too. I will report again soon. I am sorry that this happened. I cannot work with someone like Orly that wants me to lie under oath. I feel bad that this will be another setback. I want Obama out of office as bas as any of us. But fighting lies with lies is not a route that I am prepared to take. Lucas Smith In Prison is not a headline at WND that I look foward to reading while sitting in county jail. Not a future I look foward to. However, the battle is not over. I will keep everyone udated.
    Orly Taitz does not feel it is important to investigate further into any documents that backup Obama’s claim to Hawaiian birth. She says that she does not have the money to do so However, her legal team is free to pay their own way. Her whole legal team works for free and pays their own expenses. She had the nerve to tell me to get a job when I requested that she send me her another of her free legal team to Sacramento, CA to investigate the birth announcenment of Obama. All this after she tells the court that she fears for my life. I’ve been running around the world, blowing through thousands of dollars while this lady has been selling her body to legal team members rather than cough up expenses. She wont pay for anything unless I testify to her version of the STORY. No thanks Orly, I’ll find my own my home. Keep your plane ticket.

  85. cq // September 15, 2009 at 8:19 pm

    Hi cq,

    Thanks-yes I saw that posted on another site and have read what Orly had to say.

    What I’m questioning is whether or not the conference of parties as specified in the Order did, in fact, occur.

    Can’t seem to find anything on it and it should’ve happened by now, 21 days prior to the scheduling conference on 10/5.

  86. IN REGARD TO THE RECENT REVELATIONS ABOUT ACORN CORRUPTION, THE SENATE IS MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

    THE HOUSE HAS ALREADY INVESTIGATED ACORN BUT YOU CAN’T, OR WON’T PASS LEGISLATION TO STOP GIVING GOVERNMENT MONEY TO ACORN.

    U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
    COMMITTEE ON OVERSIGHT AND GOVERNMENT REFORM…….
    ACORN HAS REPEATEDLY AND DELIBERATELY ENGAGED IN SYSTEMIC FRAUD. BOTH STRUCTURALLY AND OPERATIONALLY, ACORN HIDES BEHIND A PAPER WALL OF NONPROFIT CORPORATE PROTECTIONS TO CONCEAL A CRIMINAL CONSPIRACY ON THE PART OF ITS DIRECTORS, TO LAUNDER FED. MONEY IN ORDER TO PURSUE A PARTISAN POLITICAL AGENDA AND TO MANIPULATE THE AMERICAN ELECTORATE. READ MORE…….

    Click to access 20090723acornreport.pdf

    IN RESEARCHING THE REASON FOR THE DELAY IN PASSING HR 2715, I LEARNED THAT OF ALL THE 48 CO-SPONSORS, NOT ONE IS DEMOCRAT! WHY IS THAT? THIS IS SHAMEFUL! …….
    http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-2715

    NOW, INSTEAD OF DOING SOMETHING SIGNIFICANT LIKE PASSING HR 2715, HOUSE REPRESENTATIVES ARE ENGAGING IN CHILDISH GAMES BY PURSING THEIR “RESOLUTION OF DISAPPROVAL” AGAINST JOE WILSON. THIS IS APPALLING! YOU PEOPLE NEED TO GROW UP OR STEP ASIDE SO WE CAN ELECT ADULTS TO DO THE JOB.

  87. Can Kreep keep his portion of the case open if it gets stormy on the other side?

  88. Story about Smith sounds very bogus to me………..sorry.

  89. The tea party might have to return during business hours to beat this into their heads:
    NO $$$ FOR ACORN!!!!

  90. GBAmerica SEIU is as corrupt as Acorn. Dues equal extortion, kickbacks. Those ladies work so hard taking care of the elderly what they are saying underneath is we need more workers, because we are trying to take care of these elderly people in a dignified way. They are speaking for themselves and the elderly. Guys at the top more skimming. They are crooks, no conscience at all.
    Does Obama know anyone who isn’t a hoodlum?
    He is such a capo

  91. Over the weekend the White House announced the Census Department is severing all ties with ACORN, the discredited organization that is under investigation for voter fraud in 14 states and recently the subject of a media sting by Andrew Breitbart’s Big Government blog and reported by Glenn Beck. Additionally The Senate has voted to drop all funding to ACORN from the Transportation Appropriations bill. All but 6 Democrats and one Republican supported the measure.

    It all seems too good to be true. And when it comes to Democrats reaching across the aisle, it probably is. You have to understand ACORN is where President Obama got his start. He defended them in court. He is tied to the hip to them. They have been the recipients of mega dollars of government largesse, courtesy of Democrats. It is simply out of character for them to cave so easily.

    The dirty little secret is ACORN is changing its name. In a June 21 Washington Examiner interview with Marcel Reid, a dissident ACORN whistle blower, the name is being changed to Community Organizations International.

    “We’ve known for many months now that the name ACORN is going to be retired,” [Marcel] Reid said. “The name has been so damaged to the point where the leadership knows it simply can’t go on as it has with the ACORN label out front and center, especially after all of the reporting.”

    In fact, the process has already begun, she noted. Wade Rathke, who founded the organization, announced on his blog that ACORN International has officially changed its name to “Community Organizations International.”

    So all the posturing by the White House and Senate Democrats is a sham. Republicans, make sure you add the term “and successor organizations” to any restrictions against ACORN.

    You’ve been had!

    (Again)

  92. That Lucas Smith thing sounds suspicious. Question is… what was he wanting out of the deal? Seems like he flaked on WND as well. He sure wasn’t in it for his conscience.

    I’m to the point that I don’t think anything will really come from the BC issue. With all the money, power and corruption involved I doubt any evidence still exists. It’s all been scrubbed and replaced by now. The best way to get rid of this nightmare is to focus on 2010 and exposing corruption.

  93. Orly Taitz is either an idiot or an obot.

  94. marmar // September 15, 2009 at 8:36 pm

    Hi marmar,

    Yes, I just checked Lucas Smith’s site:

    http://www.youtube.com/user/InspectorSmith

    I don’t know know what’s going on, but you now have Larry Sinclair filing an affidavit, and Lucas on his site, both saying that Orly wants them to lie under oath.

    Don’t know what’s happening, here!

  95. Holy SH*T BATMAN! They are actually going to hold the hearings to audit the Federal Reserve!

    This is HUGE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! …. HR-1207

  96. marmar // September 15, 2009 at 8:36 pm

    1) where’d you come from so suddenly??
    2) why should you care if Obama is removed?
    3) did we discover your country of birth? I’m curious
    4) investigate further into any documents that backup Obama’s claim to Hawaiian birth>>>why?? you claim to have the Kenyan BC
    6)where did you get thousands of dollars??
    7) you have proof of Orly soliciting for services??

  97. lucas smith didnt pass the smell test from day one with me period. He was to good to be true. what can 5,000 dollars buy a obot spy, lets see round trip tickets to kenya,passport,fake kenya seal document etc. through everybody off the obot trail

  98. Citizenwells…If you are watching Glenn Beck, you just heard the Acorn worker state
    that they lobby the CA official (did not catch name) for healthcare.

    From Catholic Bishops report:

    “create a national health-care system” in which “all medical costs are covered” and in which doctors are provided a medical “education subsidized by the federal government.”
    ////////////////////

    Not much different than the “education” the medical doctors receive to this day. It’s ALL funded/bankrolled by the powerful elite and has been since the 1920’s. The Rockefellers & others spearheading medicine/pharmacology early on, shaping the minds of virgin doctors to their liking. Sad, really, their agenda continues to this day with unsuspecting physicians .

  99. So there’s ANOTHER acorn tape coming up tomorrow on Hannity? It’s like Christmas!

  100. SueK // September 15, 2009 at 9:02 pm

    marmar // September 15, 2009 at 8:36 pm

    Hi marmar,

    Yes, I just checked Lucas Smith’s site:

    http://www.youtube.com/user/InspectorSmith

    I don’t know know what’s going on, but you now have Larry Sinclair filing an affidavit, and Lucas on his site, both saying that Orly wants them to lie under oath.

    Don’t know what’s happening, here!
    _____________________
    Sue…I have been a lurker here for over a year. I rarely post. Great site. I think Lucas Smith might be getting cold feet about testifying under oath. Wow…guess I shouldn’t have gotten my hopes up on this one either. Will the fraud in office EVER be taken down???

  101. JJ // September 15, 2009 at 9:08 pm

    marmar // September 15, 2009 at 8:36 pm

    1) where’d you come from so suddenly??
    2) why should you care if Obama is removed?
    3) did we discover your country of birth? I’m curious
    4) investigate further into any documents that backup Obama’s claim to Hawaiian birth>>>why?? you claim to have the Kenyan BC
    6)where did you get thousands of dollars??
    7) you have proof of Orly soliciting for services??
    ________________________
    wow…you are very rude. Do I have to be a member of some club to post here? I go to this site EVERY day to stay informed. I am just one of those people who don’t post much. With people like you JJ offending people like me Citizen stands to lose donations.

  102. Ace is the place,,,,,,hahaha ,,,,,,,,,,, I fiqured they be here this week this week ………….

  103. marmar is that a nick for Momar khadafi,,,,,,,,,,?

  104. Marmar,

    I believe JJ post was questions to ask Lucas. ????

  105. marmar // September 15, 2009 at 9:15 pm

    Welcome to the world of posting, marmar!

    Not sure what’s happening but I find it odd that Larry’s affidavit and now Smith are saying the same things.

    I think Barky will be taken down…look at it from this perspective: We have the lawsuits hammering away at him, we also have the fact that he lies like a rug and is quickly losing the support of his own party and today, Glenn Beck’s revelations. Obamacare doesn’t have the votes and just that fact alone may cause him to crash and burn.

    It’s all catching up; the truth will win!

    I can tell you that there’s no way I’d wanna be in Barky’s shoes these days.

  106. http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoID=21689194
    Something I found awhile ago,just take the time to listen.

  107. …. What the heck is going on?

    Remember the “rules” distract and divide …..

    Let’s not allow that to happen here.

  108. SueK,

    What do you think will happen regarding the Kenyan BC if Lucas steps out of the case?

    Since Orly showed the document in Cali …. can she continue with it?

    I’m totally lost!!

  109. THEY want to create as much confusion as possible – people become overwhelmed and give up.

    Obama was British at Birth (BaB) – he cannot be a Natural Born Citizen. The BC quest could be a well planned diversion from the Bab issue.

    We need to stay focused on Constitutional ineligibility – does not matter where he was born.

  110. Truth Exists (Paulajal)

    This whole Orly think is crazy-making. Does anyone talk to her? Is this Smith thing true (I mean, does Orly know that he is apparently claiming to jump ship)?

    As an attorney I looked at a lot of evidence. This whole thing doesn’t pass the smell test. Orly is just on the edge of success. Methinks the Obots have ramped things up. If Smith really wrote that, then he’s been bought off or was a plant to begin with (otherwise, I cannot think of any motivation for blowing up Orly- it doesn’t help him, and he doesn’t have to lie about anything (if she really asked him to). No, you have to look at what motivates people to find the truth. Arlen and Sinclair keep their positions as “players” if this is not resolved. But Smith becomes a hero if the Kenyan BC is not a fraud.
    Curiouser and Curiouser.

  111. Army D.A.V.-re: Lucas was there a video? Lucas never typed anything that I know of, it was always a video. Plus most of what he was going to say is on the video outside the California court room. Why would Orly who has worked like a dog on this case, endured death threats, had her web-site trashed 3-4 times, why would a smart girl like her suddenly go stupid and tell someone to lie in court? Not Orly’s style. Have you noticed, now that Orly is starting to get some real traction others are piling on. Thanks, where were you when I needed you, is what I would say. Orly’s helpers were volunteers in a lot of cases, you don’t volunteer then send somebody a bill.

  112. I’m personally not going to “accuse” Orly of anything nor Lucas Smith. Who is the grand accuser anyway? I don’t want to have that role.

    But do we know 100% that Lucas hasn’t been chosen for this very thing? I’m just throwing that out there because I do not know. Maybe BO had a printed copy of a BC set up for himself to prove those who are trying to find out about his eligibility incorrect. All along Leo has been saying and Zapem and others, forget the BC issue. And it’s not about that period, and that you will have it thrown into your face one day for worrying about his BC. Maybe they are correct and right-on.

    The whole issue as Leo sees it is about the statement on factcheck about his dad being a British citizen. That’s the issue.

  113. marmar // September 15, 2009 at 9:20 pm

    Marmar, I agree with Val…those were questions for Lucas!

  114. Val // September 15, 2009 at 9:23 pm

    Marmar,

    I believe JJ post was questions to ask Lucas. ????
    ____________
    ooops…I feel like an idiot. Sorry JJ.

  115. Earlier today someone mentioned about a song We’re not gonna take it by Twisted Sister.Here’s the video.

  116. SueK // September 15, 2009 at 9:31 pm

    marmar // September 15, 2009 at 9:20 pm

    Marmar, I agree with Val…those were questions for Lucas!
    _______________
    My bad! I kept thinking why would this person asks me these questions? Guess I should die my hair brown! (no offense to other blondes) ;o)

  117. This is their tactics Sal Alinsky, Marxist theology right out of the book for radicals………..

  118. Val // September 15, 2009 at 9:27 pm

    Hi Val,

    Yeah, I’m pretty confused myself!

    I don’t know what would happen if Lucas exits stage left.

    What I do think, however, is there’s enough reasonable doubt regarding Barky’s NBC status to somehow mandate him to produce his documents.

    Let’s go back a few months-most the citizenry wasn’t aware of this controversy; they are now. I don’t think this will die until he either shows the documents on his own, or is forced to do so.

    We’ll have to see how it all washes out.

  119. marmar // September 15, 2009 at 9:20 pm

    Can you answer the questions put to Lamar Smith??
    If not, then bow out.
    Mr. Wells must speak for himself.

  120. kittycat —

    I agree with you. I am willing to let this thing play itself out, because I do not believe that L. Smith’s Kenyan BC is legit.

    There are several important flaws (including the dimensions of the paper it is printed on), for me believe that it for real. If that is the case, then L. Smith will quickly look to escape.

    However, with respect to Orly Taitz, I believe that both Wiley Drake and Markham Robinson are straight shooters, and if they have confidence in Gary Kreep, then I feel I can too.

    So, why she wants to dump him, is beyond me.

  121. Has anyone contacted Orly regarding Smith and Sinclair?

  122. GBAmerica // September 15, 2009 at 9:34 pm

    That was me, GB…thank you for digging this up!

    ‘No, we ain’t gonna take it!’

  123. I generally like Glenn Beck, but he has really lost me on this one. What he is doing seems like a grand distraction. A skirmish in peripheral battles when we need to keep otherwise focused.

    ACORN is a huge organization with thousands of offices. So far all that he has showed is that there are several bad apples in several offices. The same can generally be said of any large organization.

    Starting from the bottom and working up will take YEARS if not DECADES to unravel things to the high-level crooks.

    In the meantime “Rome is burning”.

    Feel free to tell me where I am wrong. I would love to be wrong. But this just doesn’t feel like a big deal or a central issue to me. SIGH.

  124. Truth Exists……Methinks the Obots have ramped things up. If Smith really wrote that, then he’s been bought off or was a plant to begin with (otherwise, I cannot think of any motivation for blowing up Orly- it doesn’t help him, and he doesn’t have to lie about anything (if she really asked him to).

    You May have nailed it.


  125. Makes me tear up everytime.

  126. Army.
    Totally agree with you!

  127. Sue,
    Your welcome!perfect song!!!!!!!!

  128. Maybe Orly smelled a rat and she wanted to unload him, Lucas.

  129. SueK-when Orly, Lucas etc. did those video’s outside of court, am I remembering correctly they put their hands up and swore to something. Orly to me has most of the evidence right on those videos, Lucas would be needed to answer questions asked by the judge? Lucas cannot back out now, the judge/court system would be looking for him.
    Others are correct-Father born in Kenya Obama is not NBC.
    This has got to be the world’s weirdest soap opera.

  130. I started reading the book of Judges in the Bible,if anyone has time,chapter 4 and 5 blew me out of the water.Let me know what you think please.

  131. Carlyle // September 15, 2009 at 9:40 pm
    Feel free to tell me where I am wrong. I would love to be wrong. But this just doesn’t feel like a big deal or a central issue to me. SIGH.

    When the illegal alien occupying our White House was a part of ACORN, a community organizer teaching ACORN employees how to intimidate bankers for loans to those not qualifying, representing ACORN in litigation for obvious intimidation, skimming funds provided by our taxpayers to ACORN, yeah, you’re right, not much here, keep moving folks, nothing here….(note: sarcasm)

  132. GBAmerica // September 15, 2009 at 9:44 pm

    Hee, hee, GB…I was just picturing Barky as the dad. Cracked me up :).

  133. “So, why she wants to dump him, is beyond me.”

    =============================

    Gary Kreep:

    “There’s nothing that I’m aware of that says you have to have two American parents,” said the executive director of the United States Justice Foundation, Gary Kreep, whose lawsuit alleges Obama was born in Africa and thus is constitutionally ineligible. “My understanding of it is if you’re born in the United States, you’re a natural born citizen, period.”

    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=105904

  134. I’ll repeat , this is right out of the book for radicals , pin your opponents against each other to distract them from attacking you, then distroy the victor.

    The only one that is not going to fall for this is Orly, she knows exactly how the Marxist Leninist operate because she grew up in communist Russia.

  135. “ACORN is a huge organization with thousands of offices. So far all that he has showed is that there are several bad apples in several offices. The same can generally be said of any large organization.”

    One doesn’t have to do a huge taping event at every office of Acorn because that would prove to be wasteful. Keep in mind, if they have the mind-set at several offices of Acorn, then you can bet your bottom dollar that it will probably be that way at most of them, but possibly not to the extreme. However, keep this in mind too, we’re dealing with the liberal mind-set and many of them hold no morals. It’s just the way that it is. This is the way that they think. The libs just don’t have the morals. It doesn’t mean that all will go out and murder someone, but it does mean that they have an “anything goes” attitude. That type of mind-set gives people the freedom to think that they can literally do anything that they want to do. It’s because they don’t really understand what freedom means in our constitution, and honestly, they don’t give a crap. Freedom meant not to go out and hurt others or to be constantly offending others, but it means freedom from tyranny and oppression, and then freedom of religion. And to top it off with “freedom” in the religion sense, that means freedom from sin, meaning to not practice sins. They take it opposite and think that freedom means that it’s okay to commit sins.

  136. Truth Exists (Paulajal)

    Well one thing that’s true is that Orly already has Lucas by the acorns, if you know what I mean. He has to stand by his affidavit, and she already has his version of the BC.

  137. Carlyle-I think the objective is to get them away from all government money due to corruption. I think it is systemic, not just a couple of rogue departments. These people were just too comfortable in the wonderful world of crime, too relaxed, too knowledgeable. Would you trust them with your money? It is your money you know in the form of taxes.

  138. Michelle // September 15, 2009 at 9:45 pm

    Evening, Michelle, and yes, I remember some sort of ‘oath’ too…that what they were about to say was the truth?

    Let’s not forget that Smith also submitted an affidavit regarding what he had and it was filed. Remember we all said that if he was fibbin’ he was gonna see jail time?

    Smells like a week old Flounder to me. Something’s up.

  139. I completely laughed my butt off Sue.Your so right that song is PERFECT!!!

  140. GBAmerica // September 15, 2009 at 9:46 pm

    My preacher and seniors instructor covered Judges 6 Sunday…how coincidental.
    Theme: Questioning God is sometimes an indicator of our spiritual strength.

  141. http://www.resistnet.com/profiles/blogs/omg-you-must-read-this-its
    A must read for everyone,found over at resistnet!!!

  142. GBAmerica // September 15, 2009 at 9:52 pm

    GB, I think we ought to call Dee Snider and tell him that his song from 1984 has become THE anti-Barky anthem!

    My former band (I played bass) tried to do that song but we just couldn’t seem to get the makeup right….

  143. It’s because they don’t really understand what freedom means in our constitution, and honestly, they don’t give a crap.

    And possibly liberals don’t have the moral meter we have, they don’t fear God; therefore, they fear no consequences and have no conscience??

  144. Thank you JJ,but read chapters 4 and 5.It mentions the name Barak the son of Abinoam.
    NKJ version.

  145. Comic Relief anyone? Take a break n’ listen, please.

  146. Sue,
    Maybe Glenn Beck should play it for everyone from WE THE PEOPLE!!

  147. GBAmerica-Thank you for the great video. I had never heard the story in such great detail before.
    We Americans are descended from noble, unselfish heroes. A great reminder of our obligations. 2+million patriots went to Washington DC to remind them of their obligations.

  148. JJ // September 15, 2009 at 9:37 pm

    marmar // September 15, 2009 at 9:20 pm

    Can you answer the questions put to Lamar Smith??
    If not, then bow out.
    Mr. Wells must speak for himself.
    ________________
    I don’t understand you. I was on Lucas Smith youtube site when I saw his own posts. All I was doing was posting info on something I thought all of you regular posters would be interested in. Go there and check it out for yourself.
    http://www.youtube.com/user/InspectorSmith
    What do you mean by answer the questions put to Lamar Smith or bow out? I am just a mother of 2 who is a Patriot who loves this country just as Old Salt does and I have been studying Obama for almost 2 years and know he wants to destroy this country. I have steered many of my friends and family to this website to get information that the MSM will never give to the American people. Maybe I have sent them to the wrong place. Val or Sue…maybe you can translate yet again what JJ means.

  149. Rocknee // September 15, 2009 at 9:44 pm

    Maybe Orly smelled a rat and she wanted to unload him, Lucas.

    Rocknee, it’s hard to believe this woman who’s led this crusade for almost a year now would fall for such shicannery (sp?)…I feel an Obot is working us…..it’s not the first time I’d be mistaken, I thought Pumas would swing the votes toward a Mccain/Palin win!!!

  150. Linda from NY // September 15, 2009 at 10:02 pm

    Thanks, Linda…a classic! Always funny :).

  151. Sue K- you are right I remember now, yes there was the affidavit “fibbin’ he was gonna see jail time?”
    I could have sworn everybody on Orly’s tapes outside the courthouse raised their hands and swore to something, parts of it were hard to hear, not just Lucas everyone. Orly must have making sure of something.

  152. marmar // September 15, 2009 at 10:09 pm

    Sorry, marmar, I’m not reading what JJ is trying to say, either.

    JJ, can you elaborate? Would like to understand! TY.

  153. Legislator takes eligibility question to election officials

    ‘I expect somebody to come up with answers; so far that hasn’t happened’

    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=109915

  154. GBAmerica: What a beautiful video and song! Thank you!

  155. Sorry Tina, I’m not very focused today. Thanks for steering me in the correct topic direction. : ) Hm, the attorneys. I dunno what’s goin’ on there. I admire Orly greatly. And with everything that’s happening, I do wonder if we’ve got some wolves in sheeps clothing, so I dunno what to think.

  156. At risk of too many cooks, I wonder if JJ read marmar’s apology at 9:23 p.m.

  157. Michelle and Linda your both welcome.

  158. SueK-another thing-Orly is working on the behalf of her clients, not herself. Half at least are military. I believe she cares deeply about her clients as others would not.

  159. http://www.oilforimmigration.org/
    Everyone go here read the comments also.
    Just keep praying and stay focused!!!!

  160. Michelle:”ticktock-just so you know it isn’t just young girls. There was a big scandal here a professor at the University purchased a young boy in a South American country (poor) and used him as a slave (sex).
    It is so sick, know that there are those who are trying to help these young people. The professor got big time prison.

    Wow, sadness. Thanks for letting me know about this tho, Michelle. It gives me some hope that maybe this will finally be the thing people will NOT be willing to stomach coming from our gov’t, realizing there’s serious house cleaning to do! and I do consider ACORN our gov’t at the moment, unfortunatley. This country just cannot allow this to go on any longer.

  161. CW.

    I would like to ask if you are interested or even willing to get involved (on your blog) with the work that Carl Swenson, Joyce Rosenwald, and Rod Class are doing?

    These people have really uncovered some very serious wrong doings by the power elite. They are uncovering the fact that several Presidential Executive Orders over the years, have robbed us of our Constitutional Rights, and made us….

    ***** ENEMIES OF OUR OWN STATES *****

    Obama is not the problem. Even if he, Pelosi, Reid, Shummer, and all of them are arrested tomorrow, it will not change a thing.

    We need to start attacking the ”root” of the problem, which is the work that Carl is doing.

    Rise Up For America

    A lot of your viewers have absolutely no idea about the Federal Reserve Bank, the Emergency War Powers Act, or the problems Carl and others are working on to expose the real root of “ALL OF OUR PROBLEMS”.

    Obama could be arrested tomorrow, and it would not change anything.

  162. GBAmerica // September 15, 2009 at 9:59 pm

    Will do…and teacher suggested reading Joshua if we wanted some real eye-openers ……I plan on reading both..

  163. We do need to hear from Orly. Everything from Smith is in the Comments section of his Youtube blog and could very easily be fake.

  164. The South // September 15, 2009 at 10:26 pm

    I know, The South, you’ll believe me when I said a year ago, as the proceedings started for outing Obama…….this plan has been in the works for decades…it runs so deep, and is so complicated and connected, the master of this plan can never surface.??? Or the wizard behind the curtain???

  165. JJ,
    I’ll start reading Joshua also.
    http://pecanpii.wordpress.com/2008/07/21/who-funds-acorn/
    More about Acorn

  166. Okay I went to ask.com and put in Who funds Acorn well you would surprised!The one that caught my eye was Tom Brokaw but article GONE!!

  167. JJ.

    Yes, this is earth shattering info that Carl, Joyce, and Rod have uncovered.

    We have been enslaved by the Federal Reserve Bank since 1913. This is the root of all our problems, and we really need to start covering this.

    It’s so deep and complex, that most do not care to dive into it, but Thank God for those who are, as if we reverse these decisions at the State level (via Sheriffs) we can be back to a true Constitutional form of Government, that the Founders built.

  168. Army D.A.V. @ 9:49

    SPOT ON !!!!
    **********************

    EVERYONE PLEASE … SIMMER DOWN …
    STAY FOCUSED !

  169. Tina:”They’re such hypocrits.”

    Booooy you ain’t kiddin”. I’ve never been one to hollar Hypocrite often, but boy oh boy there’s no denying it here, not only with Joe, but in many other ways as well.

  170. kittycat // September 15, 2009 at 9:30 pm

    I’m personally not going to “accuse” Orly of anything nor Lucas Smith. Who is the grand accuser anyway? I don’t want to have that role.

    But do we know 100% that Lucas hasn’t been chosen for this very thing? I’m just throwing that out there because I do not know. Maybe BO had a printed copy of a BC set up for himself to prove those who are trying to find out about his eligibility incorrect. All along Leo has been saying and Zapem and others, forget the BC issue. And it’s not about that period, and that you will have it thrown into your face one day for worrying about his BC. Maybe they are correct and right-on.

    The whole issue as Leo sees it is about the statement on factcheck about his dad being a British citizen. That’s the issue.

    As Leo argued with Berg? It’s not the BC that matters, but the parentage??

  171. ticktock-For years in our country everyone was very careful and watchful over their little girls, never suspecting the little boys are in just as much jeopardy. Do not take your eyes off the little ones for a moment. John Walsh America’s Most Wanted-he just cannot stand these people who would harm a child and everyone is behind their efforts. I think Florida just passed some very stringent pedophile laws, plus they have a computer system that for child porn only is able to track back to these people from the porn site itself. It is very sick stuff that is done on these porn sites.

  172. Marmar,

    I’ve been posting on CW’s blog for quite some time now and I have seen your posts on a few occasions. Please continue to join us.

  173. A number 1 reason is no accountablity anymore to god or man. So honesty is thrown out. In the time of noah god allowed 8 people to live only. Why because the whole world was corrupt and evil in his sight. Wow! Only 8 shows how serious god is about obeying his laws and making him number 1. America must repent and turn back to god or it will be destroyed.

  174. Dr. Taitz has been vilified by her counterparts as incompetent, criticized for filing improperly, and attacked by those who want her to fail. And yet, she gets up every morning to begin the fight anew, travels back and forth across the country, and tries to keep her supporters informed. Whether or not Lucas Smith is telling the truth about how he obtained his documents or whether or not his document is real, are moot points. The forensic experts will eventually validate or invalidate his presentment. He has signed an affidavit to attest to his truthfulness and could be punished severely for lying. With all the fake documents that have surfaced, it is no wonder we are all skeptical anything will ever come of it. Everyone who has already filed a lawsuit and failed, along with those who are currently working on new litigation and new angles to expose what we already know to be true, is motivated by uncovering the truth and wants to accomplish the same thing…to remove the usurper from office.

    So let’s re-group. Let’s ask the right questions and not question our questions. Let’s list the facts we know to be true, drop the points that make no sense, and remain focused on our goal. After all, the truth will set us free!

    Peace to all…Linda

  175. venice // September 15, 2009 at 10:21 pm

    At risk of too many cooks, I wonder if JJ read marmar’s apology at 9:23 p.m.
    ______________
    Thank you Venice…does JJ think I am an Obot? That is laughable if the case…my husband is almost ready to divorce me (not really but we get into alot of arguments over it) because I am so obsessed with Obama being exposed for the LYING, CORRUPT, RACIST, DIVISIVE, ANTI-AMERICAN, POWER HUNGRY, NEW WORLD ORDER ACTIVIST, CONSTITUTION HATING, KENYAN, CHIGAGO THUG, WANNA BE ROCK STAR, DICTATOR, ACORN LAWYER, PALASTINIAN SYMPATHIZER AND WORST POTUS (usurper) EVER!(I’m sure I left some things out). I am still trying to figure out what I did wrong. People posting here should feel welcome and not feel like they don’t want to come back.

  176. marmar,

    While I agree with The South, that Obama’s departure would not eliminate the cancer that has been invading this country for almost a century, his departure would destabilize a corrupt system and therefore would be a good starting point.

  177. Michelle, As a mom of two boys, I hear ya! Any way you look at this behavior, victimizing our young, it is pure evil.

  178. Mario Apuzzo:

    “The Natural Born Citizen Clause of Our U.S. Constitution Requires that Both of the Child’s Parents Be U.S. Citizens At the Time of Birth”

    http://puzo1.blogspot.com/2009/09/natural-born-citizen-clause-requires.html

  179. Gary Kreep evidently does not believe in the Law of Nations as defining natural born citizen, that reference work of the framers, and feels anybody born here is natural born. I disagree and can see why Orly would not want to work with him. He cannot be trusted, either, as he has pulled clients away. He is making his own definition and Berg seems to have this approach, so they are working together against Orly, instead of being men, and working together in their own case. Very odd. If they have a different approach, they should file their case separately and not harrass Orly. But since she got her case into course, they try to take over and pull it away from like dogs after meat. Real bullies. Orly has great people as plaintiffs. She never made claims that the Lucas was authentic. She is submitting it for authentication, and at this point it is as “authentic” as Obama’s electronic document said to be forged. Obama can solve this real easy, but of course does not. This game of birth certificates is not why Orly went to court and her case does not rely on Lucas. Things are heating up. Pray for Orly. Pray for Judge Carter. Pray for America.

  180. Let me clarify my comment about Glenn Beck and Acorn.

    1st, I hate Acorn. Even their legitimate charter represents a lot of what I think is wrong with America. They do not represent or promote any America I know and love. I don’t want one penny of my tax money going to them for ANYTHING. Anything Glenn Beck does to shut them down is much needed and much appreciated.

    2nd, I know ACORN is responsible for much fraud and election manipulation.

    3rd, I believe Obama is aligned with and embedded with ACORN to a deeper level (including all the criminal activities) than even WE realize. But I think that is very hard to prove in a court of law.

    4th, It would take a special prosecutor and YEARS if not DECADES to use this as an avenue to out Obama.

    My point is that we need to keep our eye on the ball. Getting rid of ACORN is good for a lot of reasons, but I don’t see that being a fruitful avenue to Obama.

  181. ticktock-I’m the oldest of a big family, and have nieces and nephews. I always encourage the little ones that they can tell me anything that is disturbing them. Victim children of molestation take great pains to hide it, they are now training teachers for certain patterns of behavior to be aware of-certain body language but the children have to questioned carefully. Can you imagine that little girl kidnapped at 11 and the poor little thing living like that for 18 years? That man stole and ruined her entire childhood.

  182. venice // September 15, 2009 at 10:55 pm

    marmar,

    While I agree with The South, that Obama’s departure would not eliminate the cancer that has been invading this country for almost a century, his departure would destabilize a corrupt system and therefore would be a good starting point.
    _____________________
    I am a registered Republican…however, ALL in Congress and the Senate ( with exception for a few…Joe Wilson for one) need to GO!!!!! We as Constitution loving Patriots could do a better job than any of them! Heck…my DOG could do a better job!

  183. —– Original Message —–
    From: Orly Taitz
    To: Mary Ann Hartzler ; william odom
    Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 8:26 PM
    Subject: Re: HUGE NEWS…New VIDEO Atty.Orly Taitz — We can have him {Obama} out of office in 30 days

    this is absolute slander. I never asked anybody to tell a thing that isn’t true, I never asked anybody to fudge a thing
    Bill you should know that republising slanderous, defamatory statement is a defamation as well

    Orly Taitz DDS Esq

    26302 La Paz ste 211
    Mission Viejo Ca 92691

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    ph. w 949-586-8110 c-949-683-5411
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  184. I am a registered Republican…however, ALL in Congress and the Senate ( with exception for a few…Joe Wilson for one) need to GO!!!!! We as Constitution loving Patriots could do a better job than any of them! Heck…my DOG could do a better job!

    Precisely, which is why my sign Saturday read……YOU CAN’T FIX STUPID…BUT YOU CAN VOTE ‘EM OUT!!! (YES WE CAN)

  185. Carlyle // September 15, 2009 at 11:02 pm

    Carlyle, somewhere in my mind lying about being a member of the corrupt ACORN organization, among other things, is worse than lying about an encounter in the oval office with an intern….just saying…..

  186. Linda from NY -You are always right. I hate when they pick on Orly, since she has been working so hard and so long. They make me so mad, I accidentally read one that was picking on her “bleach blonde hair” inference “bimbo”???
    Well her hair is exactly the same color as mine and I know mine is natural. I call it my French Austro-Hungarian hair. It’s like platinum even beauticians think its not natural but it is. I had been dying my hair brunette for years so I grew up as a brunette, missed the whole dumb blonde thing. One day my Mom said what’s your natural hair color, I said I don’t know Mom I haven’t seen it in years, she said why don’t you let it grow out, so I did. Freedom: no more dying of the hair and the mess it makes. I ignore dumb blonde jokes and invite them to play Jeopardy with me-I can take on 5 guys and still win. I did-my brothers and their friends really freaked. They don’t pick on me anymore.

  187. JJ,

    I hope you’re right, but the difficulty as I see it is the incessant rigging that goes on with elections. Fraud has always existed, but not to the level witnessed with the last few elections, and most strongly with this last.

    I have said this before. I genuinely feel that if the will of the majority had been observed with this last election, first Hillary would have gotten the primary. Having failed that McCain would have won.

  188. Just to continue, even though many were duped by Obama initially, enough were turned around during the primary. It’s why I think Hillary cont’d, hoping to gain momentum as she did. Certainly by the general elections, enough of Obama’s fraudulence had been exposed with the primary shenanigans and the people were catching on. McCain would have won by a small margin, but he would have won.

  189. marmar-I agree-I’m a registered Democrat and I think Joe Wilson is the only one worth keeping. Everybody’s dog could do a better job and we would be money ahead. I still like the commercial where the firemen take over Congress and everything is fixed before the commercial is over and the man says at the end What’s so hard about this? I think they’re on to something.
    This group reminds me of a bunch of spoiled brats in a sandbox. The Joe Wilson censure was way overkill Ms Pelosi, who will regret that dumb move. Mrs Power Crazy Lunatic Woman.

  190. marmar // September 15, 2009 at 10:53 pm

    Marmar, you are always welcome here! Please share your valuable input whenever the urge strikes you-we’re all in this together!

  191. Michelle // September 15, 2009 at 10:23 pm

    Hi Michelle,

    I think so, too. I just found the timing of Larry’s affidavit and Lucas’ toot to be a bit strange.

    Although not too many of us know or have met Orly, I think she’s one of the most selfless people I’ve ever seen; she’s not in it for the glory and has had put up with a ton of crap which I’m sure neither she nor her family needs at this point.

    We need to move forward. All this will shake out.

  192. JJ // September 15, 2009 at 11:08 pm

    I am a registered Republican…however, ALL in Congress and the Senate ( with exception for a few…Joe Wilson for one) need to GO!!!!! We as Constitution loving Patriots could do a better job than any of them! Heck…my DOG could do a better job!

    Precisely, which is why my sign Saturday read……YOU CAN’T FIX STUPID…BUT YOU CAN VOTE ‘EM OUT!!! (YES WE CAN)
    _______________
    JJ…If you went back and read posts…what did I do wrong in posting what Lucas Smith wrote on his youtube site (if it is indeed him) just to give info to Citizen’s site? Sorry, but I am offended by the way you have treated me. This is why I am shy of posting anything. Sites have their “click” and most everytime I try to give info, I am accused of being someone I am not. How can we come together for the same cause if peeps like me are shunned???

  193. Patriot Dreamer

    venice // September 15, 2009 at 11:14 pm

    After the economy tanked in September, 2008, Bozo the Clown would have won against any Republican. At that point, it did not matter who the candidates were (and I personally didn’t like either choice), folks blamed George Bush and the Republicans for the economy.

  194. Thank you Sue and Michelle for making me feel welcome. It means alot.

  195. godlessness in the last days mark my words in the last days people will be lovers of themselves, lovers of pleasure, boastful,proud,disobedient,lovers of evil not good, conceited ,rash, always learning but not holding to the truth. have nothing to do with them.

  196. venice-The DNC should not have interfered with the will of the people-but a lot of the corruption and threats of violence were revealed there. All documented-tons of voter fraud-all documented. Acorn again I would have loved to see Hillary and McCain have it out. They are very good friends you know. I really don’t know who would have won, but it would have been fair and square. Obama may have won the battle, but he lost the war. Not only is Obama not NBC, but his victory was pyrrhic to say the least. He’s numbers are tumbling due to most Democrats can’t get away from him fast enough.

  197. thats in the NT

  198. truthbetold11 // September 15, 2009 at 11:33 pm

    godlessness in the last days mark my words in the last days people will be lovers of themselves, lovers of pleasure, boastful,proud,disobedient,lovers of evil not good, conceited ,rash, always learning but not holding to the truth. have nothing to do with them.
    ___________________
    you are correct…in this day and time bad is good and good is bad. How will God ever protect our country when we have turned our backs on him? We are not protecting Israel right now…we are DOOMED! I think I have seen your comments over @ repubx.com and other sites.

  199. PD,

    Your’re right, except I have to still wonder how the economy tanked. As far as I have read, there has not been a convincing argument for the crash, not for it’s appearance because a correction was expected from everyone, but more specifically for it’s exquisite timing and for its magnitude. McCain was beginning to soar just before Sept. 13, 2008.

    Also I recall a public revelation by Bill Clinton who witnessed Obama’s handling of this so called crisis where Obama literally turned to the committee on the Hill, and said (not an exact quote) “tell me what to say to the people, and I will fashion it so that it’s convincing” or something to that effect. Clinton shook his head in utter dismay at this man’s ignorance of economic principles.

  200. Michelle,

    Thanks. I followed the primary very closely, and remember the mountains of evidence that would have done anybody else in, except for the media that protected the One.

  201. JJ Thank you for Dr. Orly’s response, I know she would never do anything like this, much less jeopardize cases she’s been working on for over a year accompanied by the now perpetual death threats and real tired insults. Her crime: Protecting our Constitution from a usurper.
    “this is absolute slander. I never asked anybody to tell a thing that isn’t true, I never asked anybody to fudge a thing
    Bill you should know that republising slanderous, defamatory statement is a defamation as well”

  202. Hey all–chill!

    I’ve been away a few hours only to return to this back and forth. I thought something really big happened. Maybe the obots hacked Larry’s site. Maybe the obots hacked Lucas’ site. Remember how some have tried to go on to Orly’s site and came up against obot warnings? Maybe whatever.

    Stay the course, focus on the important stuff or divide and conquer will be what happens to us.

    You always know when you’ve come up against evil…it’s when you meet resistance in doing the right thing. God is truth. And, truth will win
    out, no matter what. We are meeting resistance from evil. We can’t fight that kind of thing on our own…but nothing is impossible for God. Trust in him and lean not on your understanding. We need to do our part and leave the final victory to him. He’s knows what he is about.

    And, thank you Marmar for letting us know about the latest development. It’s always good to keep up on such so we are not blindsided. Please be sure to post more often so everyone can get to know you. A peep or chirp every now and then is good.

  203. To twe:
    I searched Somerset, ky september 12th tea party for mentioning in the town paper and found this:
    .”Thanks to commenter twe. VOTE THEM OUT” will go Saturday to the townsquare in Somerset, KY.
    Are you from Somerset, Ky???
    I was there the 12th.

  204. Venice…a couple of links regarding George Soros.
    Soros caused the collapse of England’s currency and also in Malaysia
    http://raymondpronk.wordpress.com/2008/09/18/goerge-soros-barack-obamas-money-man-and-agenda-puppeter/
    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2098130/posts

  205. twe // September 15, 2009 at 11:52 pm

    Thank you for your kind words! ;o)

  206. I posted a link recently re: George Soros.

    Apparently he and Hillary were “soulmates” in their political ideology and it was the Clintons who more firmly entrenched Soros in political circles, hence giving him increasing influence.

    It is said that Soros guaranteed Hillary with the presidency, until early 2007 when he arranged to meet with Barry. He turned on his heels (I still wonder what transfixed him, though I have an idea) and threw his weight of support to dear old Barry. From then on, Hillary really didn’t have a chance given the magnitude of money involved.

    So it’s not just the overt fraudulence, but the massive coercion on an organized level that determined Barack’s position. He never really earned it (as much as anyone can), like he’s never worked in the trenches for many of his so-called promotions.

  207. marmar,

    We must be on the same wavelength as I posted my last entry before seeing your link to Soros.

  208. marmar // September 15, 2009 at 11:55 pm

    Marmar, and twe will send you a joke, right twe? 🙂

  209. JJ–very little bluegrass in my yard…sorry, not from Ky.

    ps–re my 1152…maybe someone is now masquerading as me (I feel sorry for them!);o

    I jumped the other day when I saw the initials tre thinking they were mine until I doublechecked them. I didn’t think they were usual initials but maybe more common than I thought. Always good to come down a peg! Anyway, thank you for thinking of me. God bless!

  210. venice // September 15, 2009 at 11:59 pm

    marmar,

    We must be on the same wavelength as I posted my last entry before seeing your link to Soros.
    __________
    there must be a time delay of some sort…I was responding to your post.

  211. venice // September 15, 2009 at 11:57 pm

    He turned on his heels (I still wonder what transfixed him, though I have an idea) and threw his weight of support to dear old Barry.

    Like you, I’ve been aware of Soros since 2007; the readings say he weighed the chances…….a black man, unknown, or a woman, with baggage (Bill)…….he was advised to go with the black man.

    The rest is history.

  212. Yes,

    I have read about the so called “philanthropic” activities of Soros and his significant contribution to regime collapses (that must be oxymoronic).

    I also understand that after studying at the London school of Economics where he became entrhalled with Karl Popper’s philosophical writings he decided he was better equipped as a financier than as a philosopher.

    Well you couldn’t find more opposing temperaments, but in this way he is much like his puppet. He maintains fantasies of his altruism, while being one of the deadliest on the face of the earth.

  213. SueK // September 15, 2009 at 11:59 pm

    marmar // September 15, 2009 at 11:55 pm

    Marmar, and twe will send you a joke, right twe?
    ___________________
    Sue…always in the mood for jokes!

  214. Michelle–Used to listen to Chicken Man in Germany on Armed Forces Radio…memories of the old days. Thank you.

  215. For Patriots only

  216. Food for Thought:

    http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1/?p=4327

    Tuesday, September 15, 2009 12:23 PM
    From:
    “Anonymous”

    Add sender to Contacts
    To:
    dr_taitz@yahoo.com

    Public letter to conservatives who have speculated as to Dr. Orly Taitz’s qualifications and legal expertise:

    As a viewer of the Internet news, rumor, and commentary concerning Obama’s eligibility, consider the following points and questions concerning Dr. Taitz :

    1. Bravery vs. Cowardice- Except for a few, America’s ruling class, including attorneys, have run from the issue of Obama’s eligibility. A few attorneys have filed a couple lawsuits but always with one eye on the current public perception of so-called “birthers.” As an American, I have become rather disgusted with the cowardice of these attorneys who make half-hearted attempts-not to mention the cowardice of the media. It is somewhat understandable that these attorneys would not invite the Cat 6 hurricane of attack by getting involved in the eligibility issue. However, one attorney, Dr. Taitz has shown true American courage in the face of intense opposition and has never stopped her tireless efforts- which has probably come at great cost to her and her three sons.

    2. Competence vs. Buffoonery- In light of the fact that Orly, an immigrant, has stepped us to plate when no other American attorney truly has, made great sacrifices, and has opened herself to attack, I make the following points;

    a. Does anyone think any American faults her for making English spelling errors or any judge for that matter? Or is she admired her for being able to achieve and accomplish so much in her relatively short time in America?

    b. Since we are talking here about who has the best chance of winning these court cases, answer this question: Does anyone really believe that an attorney that is better at dotting I’s and crossing T’s or perfect in the nuances of American courtroom protocol will have their court case heard and not thrown out by today’s brave judiciary? Or might it just be possible that any judge brave enough to even consider hearing an Obama “natural born” case in the first place, may respond better to a highly intelligent, conscientiously motivated attorney?

    c. Many of Orly’s pundits cannot see straight because of their own fears that someone could mess up everyone’s chances at seeing Obama’s birth certificate. I remind everyone that this is Orly’s chance- she earned it, she inspired the people, and many educated military personnel have chosen her for their attorney. Are all these plantiffs morons or might they just be a little smarter than those of us speculating from a distance? This speaks volumes for her competence.

    d. So who is truly competent and who is the buffoon? The intelligent, educated, and passionate defender of the Constitution or some nameless, good spelling, procedural master of litigation (who some seem to be watering at the mouth for)? Remember, we have come to this point in litigation for a reason- because this woman has done what American attorneys have not- from timidity, or negligence, or just plain failure, or other. Some people really need to rethink their definitions of competence in light of what is really needed for victory in our courts.

    3. Money & Fame vs. Conscience- The Power of Motives – Does anyone think Orly is in this for fame or fortune? She could have taken the easy route, lived very comfortably in her successful careers and enjoyed her time with her three sons – but her family has sacrificed everything for this great country that once chose freedom over tyranny while giving honor to the Creator. Don’t underestimate the appeal of these factors to honorable judges (we don’t have any chances with dishonorable ones anyway). These other attorneys are a dime a dozen and everyone, including judges, will believe they are in it for the money and fame. Orly has the most compelling reason for involvement (because of her background with Communism and corruption and her fresh enthusiasm, akin to our founders, for our country and constitution). This should carry a multitude of weight in making judgments about who is most qualified to bring successful litigation.

    Let this attorney do what she is so well equipped for and may other attorneys swallow their egos, forget their fear, and offer their services and expertise pro-bono… leave her at the helm.

  217. Patriot Dreamer

    This is just silly: tax court rules that prostitutes and pornography cannot be deducted as medical expenses on federal income tax returns. Did this really need a ruling from a court??!! LOL!

    http://www.forbes.com/2009/09/15/tax-court-deductions-prostitutes-medical-expenses-personal-finance-hookers.html

    ACORN should take note of this ruling. 😉

  218. JJ…why have you not responded to my previous posts? Just wondering.

  219. SueK and Marmar: best I could do on short notice:

    http://terrellaftermath.com/

  220. Michelle – thanks for the Yankee Doodle Dandy it made me smile!!

  221. twe-Austria and Germany that is where my grandparents on my mother’s side are from. Never met them, they died before my Mom got married to my father. Hope you liked it there, I like German pastries, but I could never think about eating the food. Hassenpfeffer forget it.

  222. Michelle–We used to raise little hassens when I was little. They are yummy–seriously, just like chicken but leaner. Just don’t pet them first. Spargel (white asparagus) is to die for. They make whole meals out of it. And, the wine is the best and still, my favorite. Pastries good and creamy but not as sweet as over here. Beautiful countries Austria and Germany. Great skiing, too!

  223. twe // September 16, 2009 at 12:12 am

    SueK and Marmar: best I could do on short notice:

    http://terrellaftermath.com/
    ________________
    TWE… thank you for the laughs… we need them alot to get us through what is going on in this day and age!

  224. LM-sometimes things get intense, this really is the most insane thing the United States ever saw. So George Soros thinks he is running the show. Real cute. One man, one vote. We are a republic, a democracy if he is doing what he is accused of doing then this is an oligarchy and he committed treason too. I read somewhere that he was a Nazi sympathizer against his own people the Jewish people, guess that makes him a double traitor.

  225. twe // September 16, 2009 at 12:12 am

    OK, twe…this time it was yogurt. The rug should clean up just fine.

    Thanks :).

  226. LM-go to twe 11:57

  227. Night, all.

    Wonder what Wednesday will bring?

  228. Night SueK,

    Yes store up your energy, I think a fair amount will be required.

  229. twe // September 16, 2009 at 12:19 am
    My mom just sent me this article on asaparagus, The source is “Cancer News journal” I haven’t checked it out but if true…would be wonderful!!! Sorry, kind of long!
    Please read All The Way Through,

    “My Mom had been taking the full-stalk canned style asparagus that she pureed and she took 4 tablespoons in the morning and 4 tablespoons later in the day. She did this for over a month. She is on chemo pills for Stage 3 lung cancer in the pleural area and her cancer cell count went from 386 down to 125 as of this past week. Her oncologist said she does not need to see him for 3 months.”

    THE ARTICLE:
    Several years ago, I had a man seeking asparagus for a friend who had cancer. He gave me a photocopied copy of an article, entitled, ‘Asparagus for cancer’ printed in Cancer News Journal.

    I will share it here, just as it was shared with me: ‘I am a biochemist, and have specialized in the relation of diet to health for over 50 years..Several years ago, I learned of the discovery of Richard R.. Vensal, D.D.S. That asparagus might cure cancer.

    Since then, I have worked with him on his project. We have accumulated a number of favorable case histories.

    Here are a few examples:

    Case No. 1, A man with an almost hopeless case of Hodgkin’s disease (cancer of the lymph glands) who was completely incapacitated. Within 1 year of starting the asparagus therapy, his doctors were unable to detect any signs of cancer, and he was back on a schedule of strenuous exercise.

    Case No. 2, A successful businessman 68 years old who suffered from cancer of the bladder for 16 years. After years of medical treatments, including radiation without improvement, he went on asparagus. Within 3 months, examinations revealed that his bladder tumor had disappeared and that his kidneys were normal.

    Case No. 3, A man who had lung cancer. On March 5th, he was put on the operating table where they found lung cancer so widely spread that it was inoperable. The surgeon sewed him up and declared his case hopeless. On April 5th he heard about the asparagus therapy and immediately started taking it. By August, x-ray pictures revealed that all signs of the cancer had disappeared. He is back at his regular business routine.

    Case No. 4, A woman who was troubled for a number of years with skin cancer. She finally developed different skin cancers which were diagnosed by asking specialist as advanced…. Within 3 months after starting on asparagus, her skin specialist said that her skin looked fine and no more skin lesions. This woman reported that the asparagus therapy also cured her kidney disease, which started in 1949. She had over 10 operations for kidney stones, and was receiving government disability payments for an inoperable, terminal, kidney condition. She attributes the cure of this kidney trouble entirely to the asparagus.

    I was not surprised at this result, as `The elements of materia medica’, edited in 1854 by a Professor at the University of Pennsylvania, stated that asparagus was used as a popular
    Remedy for kidney stones. He even referred to experiments, in 1739, on the power of asparagus in dissolving stones.

    We would have other case histories but the medical establishment has interfered with our obtaining some of the records. I am therefore appealing to readers to spread this good news and help us to gather a large number of case histories that will overwhelm the medical skeptics about this unbelievably simple and natural remedy.

    For the treatment, asparagus should be cooked before using, and therefore canned asparagus is just as good as fresh. I have corresponded with the two leading canners of asparagus, Giant and Stokely, and I am satisfied that these brands contain no pesticides or preservatives.

    Place the cooked asparagus in a blender and liquefy to make a puree, and store in the refrigerator. Give the patient 4 full tablespoons twice daily, morning and evening.

    Patients usually show some improvement in from 2-4 weeks. It can be diluted with water and used as a cold or hot drink. This suggested dosage is based on present experience, but certainly larger amounts can do no harm and may be needed in some cases.

    As a biochemist I am convinced of the old saying that ‘what cures can prevent’. Based on this theory, my wife and I have been using asparagus puree as a beverage with our meals.

    We take 2 tablespoons diluted in water to suit our taste with breakfast and with dinner. I take mine hot and my wife prefers hers cold. For years we have made it a practice to have blood surveys taken as part of our regular checkups.

    The last blood survey, taken by a medical doctor who specializes in the nutritional approach to health, showed substantial improvements in all categories over the last one, and we can attribute these improvements to nothing but the asparagus drink…

    As a biochemist, I have made an extensive study of all aspects of cancer, and all of the proposed cures. As a result, I am convinced that asparagus fits in better with the latest theories about cancer. Asparagus contains a good supply of protein called histones, which are believed to be active in controlling cell growth. For that reason, I believe asparagus can be said to contain a substance that I call cell growth normalizer. That accounts for its action on cancer and in acting as a general body tonic.

    In any event, regardless of theory, asparagus used as we suggest, is a harmless substance. The FDA cannot prevent you from using it and it may do you much good.

    It has been reported by the US National Cancer Institute, that asparagus is the highest tested food containing glutathione, which is considered one of the body’s most potent anticarcinogens and antioxidants.

    Please spread the news!

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  230. twe-Is a hassen a rabbit? Oh no The only way I can eat meat is if bears no resemblance to what it formerly looked like. I’d make a rotten frontiers person. What did you do in our Army?
    If it’s secret you don’t have to tell.

  231. Sue K-twe got you again?

  232. marmar -Thank you for the great article. God’s own little laboratory. One of the reasons they want to study plants in the rain forest, so interesting.

  233. Carlyle, Yes, there are generally bad apples in every large organization…but imo, this kind of bad apple business is so rotten, there’s no way it’s not limited to the whole box! Even tho every org has it’s bad apples, this level of evil, every org does not have. It’s looking more to me that the CORE of the apple, or in this case the ACORN..;) is rotten…ruining and infesting the whole thing. Glenn’s right, this needs the disinfectant of sunlight…and a whole lot more of it!

  234. Michelle // September 16, 2009 at 12:35 am

    marmar -Thank you for the great article. God’s own little laboratory. One of the reasons they want to study plants in the rain forest, so interesting.
    ________________
    Hi Michelle,

    I just noticed from my previous post that somehow people might think that the paragraph before “The Article” is about my mom, it’s not. It is from the article my mom sent me through email. Just looked for a link in her email but didn’t fine one. I apologize that I didn’t have a link but maybe it could be food for thought! ;o). I will have to research and post some documented facts. Going to bed. @ 48 years of age, it seems I go to bed a few minutes earlier than the previous night!!! Wow…getting OLD! Thank you to all
    who have been very kind to me. Still haven’t heard back from JJ upon a few requests…what does it take? I guess somehow I ruffled his feathers. I really am a nice person even though none of you know me! God bless all of you Constitutionally Loving Patriots!

  235. TO:
    Patriot Dreamer // September 15, 2009 at 11:31 pm

    venice // September 15, 2009 at 11:14 pm

    After the economy tanked in September, 2008, Bozo the Clown would have won against any Republican. At that point, it did not matter who the candidates were (and I personally didn’t like either choice), folks blamed George Bush and the Republicans for the economy.

    =================

    The Economy didn’t tank. It was PUSHED INTO THE TANK by SABOTAGE this video explains it. Who took $550 Billion out of the economy at a time that it best helped the Erosionists and Commemorate Sept 11?
    WHO? Very important listen to the whole Video.
    How comeo no one is INVESTIGATING? Who did this? Why is there so much American money in EUROPE being help in Euros lots of it transfered by AIG? WHY? WHO?

  236. LUCAS SMITH:

    Lets not jump to Conslusions and let things play out. There is more to this story than it is being revealed. One thing is for sure Lucas Smith Produced a Document with all signatures asn stamps Visible in One Shot….Obama’s COLB NEVER EVER DID THAT. There isn’t one image of Obama’s COLB showing the info and Seal and all signatures in one SHOT.

    Also Lucas Smith has signed an Affidavit that attest that the Document is Real as it was handed to him from sources, NOW has Obamaliar done that? Has he signed an affidavit or stated anywhere that he was NBC other that then from he signed for Arizona?

    Obama how about at least signing an affidavit that you are NBC and attesting to the COLB as real?

    I support Orly and Lucas Smith until I get more evidence…..sometimes there are misunderstanding. Lost of people can misunderstand something especially a strong hurried woman with an accent and loads of passion. I have talked to Orly on telephone and as a someone born on a foreign country and full of passion I can understand how someone can be misunderstood. I have been misunderstood many times to where my passion is misunderstood for anger, losing control, or agression…when it was just passion to get a point across.

    Lets lay low on this and let it play out.

    Meanwhile lets PUSH ACORNS down the squirrel hole.

  237. Dropping like flys….

    full story at:
    http://www.cnbc.com/id/32860315

    Snipped from CNBC site:
    James McDonald, a prominent adviser to wealthy families as chief executive of investment management group Rockefeller, died of a single gunshot wound Sunday, local authorities said Tuesday.

    McDonald, 56, was found dead in his car near a strip mall in Dartmouth, Massachusetts Sunday afternoon.

  238. Listen to the above Video Debate when Obamaliar “The Wizard of Uhhs” was running for the Senate…..eye opening.

  239. BORNTWYCE
    October 26, 2008

    LISTEN TO ENTIRE INTERVIEW AT LINK BELOW:

    http://www.eyeonbooks.com/ibp_obama.php

    1995 Obama Bizarre, Race Baiting Interview Found. A MUST SEE!!
    Obama admits his Redistribution of Wealth is to SAVE the African American community SO HE CAN ENSURE HIS OWN SALVATION! (and Our Countries Salvation) He compares the plight of African Americas to the ethic genocide’s of Bosnia and Africa. He blames all of African American’s problems on “ONE GROUP” who suppresses them. And He says WHITE people don’t want their taxes to help black children.
    1995 SHOCKING NEW BARACK OBAMA VIDEO FOUND…..RACE BAITING INTERVIEW!!!

  240. Like I said, dropping like flys….

    Just found another article at http://www.repubx.com

    Four “Financial analysts” and entrepreneurs die within 48 hrs.
    By DefendUSxSeptember 15, 2009 15:16

  241. I agree with The South and GBAmerica. Information has got to get out to the patriots about the federal reserve and the central bank holding us in indentured servitude.
    Beck is right when he says to stop thinking in the left-right paradigm. It’s bigger than that.
    Alex Jones takes it farther. Watch The Obama Deception.
    Don’t believe anyone 100%, people are weak, and evil is rampant across the earth right now.

  242. WOW now looking back Obamaliar wanted those that encourage illegal immigration fo 13 yr old for Prostitution to SHAPE HIS POLICY adn PUSH HIS POLICY.

  243. I guess the ObaMORONS may have learned that it’s easier to control the crime scene in a car than in an apartment like Donald Young. Less for the police to go on…as in forensics. If they find a hair or a fiber on the street next to the car it is much harder to place a suspect at the scene of the crime because it is a public place as opposed to someone’s apt.

    JFK Flu is rampant.
    Can anyone run a comparison of Clintons suspicious murders to these?

  244. Civis Naturaliter Natus

    I personally believe Taitz’s has more proven character than her present detractors…

    She’ll have witnesses to prove her side of the story…they already have many who impugn their character–obots will not be able to use their allegations without accepting their previous assertions against Obama as credible…

    It seems to be a big misunderstanding, taken the wrong way by those who did not want to understand…

    Lucas’ words, if they are his, seem to indicate he wanted money

    Sinclair’s, that Orly was not told correctly by others what he was claiming from the get go…and rather than explain, he jumped to accuse her…

    But who encouraged both of these men to jump to public accusations on the same day…?

    Hmm…

  245. Civis Naturaliter Natus

    One of these “suicides” cited in the last 48 hours, died on the 7th of sept. a week ago..

    http://www.treehugger.com/files/2009/04/th-radio-b-corporation-2.php

    but his corporation helped Obama’s transition team…promote social engineering planning…

    what did he know…

    then again, maybe his Beneficial Corp and this beneficial corp are different…

  246. Civis Naturaliter Natus

    Acorn sued and settled with Beneficial Corp in 2003

    http://therealbarackobama.wordpress.com/2008/10/27/loudon-more-on-barack-obama-and-the-socialist-new-party/

    Then the CEO drops dead

    right during the controversy over Acorn…

    CW!!!!!!!!!!!

  247. Civis Naturaliter Natus

    Anyone know a Article II Patriot who is a professional webmaster/webdesigner with HTML and CSS experience? Let John know over at the Post & Email…you have to have reference from CW, affirming you are a regular pro-patriot poster here…or recommended by one here..

  248. I felt a need to chime in. I have seen and hear people refer to these Acorn tapes as bad apples. However, if we look at the scummiest of the scum in our world, these folks on the tapes have exactly the same principles. A bad apple to me would be an Acorn adviser maybe doctoring the income level of a participant of the program to secure a loan. The magnitude of these apples are excrement of the foulest creature. I believe for the everyday person to find this scum in a position subsidized by the government, would be hard. Many would say “come on there are plenty of bad apples”, yes i agree. But this kind of bad apple is not doing this kind of work, let alone so many in one organization. These filmmakers threw a stone in the air blindfolded and hit many windows at once, hardly coincidental.

    As for Lucas Smith, he signed an affidavit, its a done deal. I have no idea where this diversion is coming from, what is important is how the Judge sees the paperwork. As for Orly i think she is justifiably paranoid, and doesn’t want to blow her chances. If she does blow her chances then she would do so on her own terms. I think she is promoting a optimistic viewpoint in her videos sometimes which can be seen as a little to in the bag as they say. She is taking the risk so leave her be. I believe the closer she gets the likelihood she will attract trouble disguised as help. It seems to me she will only feel comfortable with those who have been there since she started. With her schedule as full as it is, she has little time to micro manage, so she must keep all help which are familiar people and be weary of the pile on crowd.

  249. Good morning buys bees.

    Hello Marmar!! I have also seen your previous posts in here. Glad you found your voice again!

    Have a GREAT day Patriots!

  250. http://www.canadafreepress.com/

    What are your thoughts on this?It’s about the two different eligibility documents.I am curious what you all think.

  251. Army D. A. V wrote:

    “Army D.A.V. // September 15, 2009 at 8:43 pm

    Story about Smith sounds very bogus to me………..sorry.”

    Me, too. Not sure what’s going on, but will find out soon enough, no doubt…

  252. After the decline of the American dollar yesterday, gold is now at 1016.

  253. For those interested in finding out how a real communist got a White House job, the Van Jones scandal isn’t over.
    Soros Money Financed Communist Van Jones

    Cliff Kincaid Bio
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    By Cliff Kincaid Tuesday, September 15, 2009
    When the list of donors to the Van Jones “Green for All” organization is examined, one name stands out-the Open Society Institute of billionaire George Soros. The Green for All 2008 annual report is also notable for the pictures of the powerful people who associated with Jones. They include House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and former Vice President Al Gore.

    Full story:
    http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/14737

    This of course is not talking about the other more famous, but well hidden my the Bedmate Media, Communist (New Party Chicago with signed Contract in 1996 election) Obamaliar that used Fraud and Forgery to give us the Insurgency Presidency.

  254. CNN.
    There is so much material about Obama, Acorn, Chicago corruption that I often
    had to weigh what to write about.
    All the news about a completely corrupt candidate/president and the MSM
    does not touch it.
    Now Scott Shane of the NYT, is painting a picture of Acorn being targeted by conservative
    opponents. So, not only does the NYT not cover the Acorn stories and in fact was caught
    withholding a “gamechanger” story last years, now they do an Orwellian spin to blame others.

  255. CW,

    What’s your take on the newest Orly topic ..
    Lucas Smith & Larry Sinclair?

    Have you talked to Larry lately?

  256. Speaking of George Soros – Here is his house in New York. What say we have a march on it?

    http://virtualglobetrotting.com/map/38727/view/?service=1

  257. Full disclosure: I’m no Bush fan. But he sure nails it in this quote, at the end:

    “Bush: Obama Has No Clue”

    “Tuesday, September 15, 2009 4:15 PM

    By: Jim Meyers

    “President George W. Bush’s former speechwriter Matt Latimer reveals that Bush considered Barack Obama unfit for the White House and predicted that vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin would be a disaster for the GOP.

    “After one of Obama’s blistering speeches against the administration, the president had a very human reaction: He was ticked off,” Latimer writes in his forthcoming book, “Speech-Less: Tales of a White House Survivor,” which has been excerpted in the October issue of GQ.

    “He came in one day to rehearse a speech, fuming. ‘This is a dangerous world,’ he said for no apparent reason, ‘and this cat isn’t remotely qualified to handle it. This guy has no clue, I promise you.'”

    http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/bush_obama_speechwriter/2009/09/15/260438.html?s=al&promo_code=88BF-1

  258. Posted 6 hours ago on Lucas Smith youtube account: From Lucas Smith:

    Again, thank you everyone for your support and patriotism. Most of you have been here on this page with me since my Ebay auctions. It is not my intention to offend anyone. Your support is noted and appreciated. However, Orly Taitz is not a patriot but rather a egocentric correspondence course attorney that would take up any cause that will aid her in the fame and $$$ that she is seeking. She uses a ghost writer, for lack of correct terminology, to write all legal filings in this case against Obama. She has no understanding of the law and changes her story and the story of others everyday. It almost sickening. And this is the savior and patriot of the free world. I’d rather be marched off to a FEMA camp before I sacrifice my integrity and work this pathetic movie star fame seeker dentist attorney. Respectfully, Lucas Smith.

    *********************************************
    What the heck is going on?

  259. The CLOWNS Just Get Recycled Around:
    Two great stories from RedState. If you are not yet signed up for RedState’s daily e-mail updates I encourage to sign up I am very happy with it. They do a great job for exposing the Erosionists and keeping Conservatives informed on many issues.

    Story 1:
    Nancy-Ann DeParle is the Non Sequitur of Obama Appointees

    Last Wednesday night, Barack Obama, in his address to Congress, said

    [W]e’ve estimated that most of this plan can be paid for by finding savings within the existing health care system, a system that is currently full of waste and abuse. . . . The only thing this plan would eliminate is the hundreds of billions of dollars in waste and fraud . . . . Reducing the waste and inefficiency in Medicare and Medicaid will pay for most of this plan.

    Get the point? According the Barack Obama, most of his health care plan will be paid for by “reducing waste and inefficiency in Medicare and Medicaid” and getting rid of the fraud and abuse.

    Who has he chosen as his health policy czar to make sure the waste, fraud, and abuse gets stamped out? Nancy-Ann DeParle.

    And why do I call her a non sequitur appointee? Well, a non sequitur is a logical fallacy and that’s what this appointment is. Why the hell would you appoint as your healty policy czar who will focus on rooting out Medicare’s waste, fraud, and abuse the woman who ran Medicare for Bill Clinton and utterly and completely failed to root out waste, fraud, and abuse?

    That’s right – Nancy-Ann DeParle was in charge of Medicare during the Clinton Administration and left office having little to show for ridding the system of waste, fraud, and abuse.

    But if you think that’s the real story here, this just keeps getting better and better. Let’s dig in, shall we!
    Full story:
    http://www.redstate.com/erick/2009/09/16/nancy-ann-deparle-is-the-non-sequitur-of-obama-appointees/

    Story 2:
    Van Jones didn’t get Fired, Communist Clowns just get Recycled Around. They take care of Their Own. He continues working for Soros as he was when he was an Obamaliar Czar..it might be easier to ask: Who on the Erosionist Party doesn’t work for Soros?

    Story from RedState:
    You did not suffer under the delusion that Democrats are ashamed of their America-haters, cretins, adulterers, racists, perjurers, thieves, tax cheats, and other criminals, did you?

    Did you now?

    September 6 – Van Jones resigns under pressure as Obama’s ‘Green Jobs Czar’.

    September 9 – He’s back at the Center for American Progress, where he was previously a Senior Fellow.

    Not that there’s anything wrong with that, of course.

    Make no mistake. Van Jones is well taken care of.
    Read More:
    http://www.redstate.com/e_pluribus_unum/2009/09/15/van-jones-not-fired-just-transferred-to-another-division-of-soros-inc/

  260. CNN, didn’t take you long to find the dirt on some of these people who recently met their demise. Unbelievable, isn’t it?

  261. venice said:

    “After the decline of the American dollar yesterday, gold is now at 1016.”

    Gold’s going to go up and down like a yo-yo, making it difficult to predict on futures.

    Stick with platinum for now. It’s holding steady around $1335. It will fluctuate only so much and rarely goes below $1200.

  262. Ms. Helga….great idea!

    I remember reading Soros was suspected of the ECONOMIC 9/11 that occurred last year. Someone pulled the plug to stop the disappearing funds.

  263. TO:

    ms. helga // September 16, 2009 at 8:29 am

    Speaking of George Soros – Here is his house in New York. What say we have a march on it?

    http://virtualglobetrotting.com/map/38727/view/?service=1
    ===================

    Great Idea NEXT MARCH should be in front of this Communist Clown’s House…lets turn the tables on them…lets Saul Alinsky his sorry (soros) A$$.

  264. Jeff M,

    isn’t it a catch 22 with gold? It trades high, you sell it for what…more worthless fiat currency that you have to pay taxes on.

    Thanks for the scoop on Platinum.

  265. TO:
    JustMe // September 16, 2009 at 8:39 am

    Ms. Helga….great idea!

    I remember reading Soros was suspected of the ECONOMIC 9/11 that occurred last year. Someone pulled the plug to stop the disappearing funds.
    ===============
    See my video above @September 16, 2009 at 1:00 am for the 9/11 ECONOMIC ATTACK ON AMERICA.

  266. There are a lot of comments from Lucas Smith on his youtube account. You to the BC page and click on his name on the right of the video … scroll down to read the comments on the bottom right of page. He was posting throughout the night. There was a recent comment from someone to LS that said there was word going around that a person from Ohio – Lynn Newcomer has offered Lucas Smith 2.5 Million for the BC …?????

    Question: If Orly submitted the Kenyan BC to Judge Carter and now that Lucas Smith is backing out …. does Orly get to keep the BC as evidence?

    I’m so confused over this whole thing.

  267. Val said:

    “What the heck is going on?”

    It’s simple Val. You have a no-name forger that pops up magically. Yes, Taitz is a little wacky and unpredictable, too.

    I say that Taitz and Lucas can not be trusted, regardless of their affiliations or “heart” if you will. No matter. These cases are going nowhere. I’d be quite surprised if they ever make it past step 2 of the legal process.

    It wouldn’t matter if both were on the ball, had all the stars aligned, and were 100% honest (as is not the case for Lucas). Why? Because SCROTUS sent the message loud and clear on the Wrotnowski case back in January. They don’t want to listen to any case based on merit, and the rest of the DoIJ followed suit.

    Sure, Carter really wants to pull the rug out from under Soetoro, but he can’t because the minute he does the DoIJ will file an emergency appeal and SCROTUS will overturn the decision.

    Yes, nobody wants to hear this but let’s face it, this government is so corrupt I’ll be quite surprised if anything just happens in the next 2 years, including ACORN. It will continue to get worse. Look at what SCROTUS is doing now. Follow their cases in the hopper now.

    This usurping tyrannical government is really rounding the bend now folks.

  268. Here’s the youtube page. Click on the name “Inspector Smith” to the right of the video – scroll down to read comments.

  269. I would suggest we do a Cindy Sheehan long term style protest in front of Soros’ House until he comes clean or a Full Investiagtion is done.
    I call on people nearby especially those that lost their jobs, 401K’s, etc this may be the Biggest Culprit Clown of all….vent your anger towards him and set up camp near his house.
    This may be the biggest enemy of our economy and civility.

    Please Organize, if you are out of work you can do it. Do it for the Country and Our Children.
    This shamelss man has to be SHAMED. Please take inspiration from the ACORN 2 kids success….if two young people can bring down ACORN imagine what we grown ups can do to the Puppet Master behind all of this?

    Lets Roll

  270. Morning, all…
    Latest post…remember…we ARE the LONE WOLVES.

    Wait…isn’t that oxymoronic?

    http://conrest.blogspot.com/2009/09/lone-wolf.html

  271. JeffM @ 8:48,

    I’ve been feeling the same way. I hate to admit that! But I’m afraid we’re stuck with this for a while.

    I’m just looking forward to the 2010 Elections. I have never voted in those before but I sure will this go round! I will be counting on CW’s Hall of Shame . My thinking is: Whoever is in – goes OUT! With a few exceptions.

  272. Civis Naturaliter Natus

    JeffM,

    Your view is your opinion, but it is very negative.

    You really cannot say that these cases are going nowhere, they are moving, esp. Carters…

    I do agree we should not be relying on the presumption of success…

    However, if Orly does win and the govt appeals, then it will look much worse for Obama…as long as we can keep increasing the nationwide resistence to his tyranny, as soon as he makes a move for total power, we’ll have a much better change mobilizing grass roots military resistence..

  273. It wouldn’t matter if both were on the ball, had all the stars aligned, and were 100% honest (as is not the case for Lucas). Why? Because SCROTUS sent the message loud and clear on the Wrotnowski case back in January. They don’t want to listen to any case based on merit, and the rest of the DoIJ followed suit.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Amen, finally someone said it out loud….SCROTUS and other justices will not solve this problem….they are the problem.
    I believed it from November of last year… Nothing has changed…..David is here, but Goliath keeps changing his features.

  274. Civis Naturaliter Natus

    http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/2009/09/16/john-mccain-citizen-of-panama-at-birth/

    Donofrio on McCain citizen of Panama at birth, and possible still a citizen of Panama…

  275. Patriot Dreamer

    folks, please send this out to everyone on your mailing lists:

    “Dem Senator Warns of ‘Big, Big Tax’ on Middle Class in Baucus [Health Care] Bill”
    http://blogs.abcnews.com/thenote/2009/09/dem-senator-warns-of-big-big-tax-on-middle-class-in-baucus-bill.html

  276. Val.
    I have talked to Larry Sinclair several times.
    He gave me a heads up on all.
    I have tried to stay out of the way of anyone exposing the truth about Obama
    whether I agree with their methodology or their personality traits.
    Taitz has had a difficult time knowing who to trust.
    She told me so several months ago.
    It has also been important to avoid diversions and divisive
    efforts from the Obama camp.
    Larry Sinclair has always given me consistent straight answers.
    He is also very intelligent.

    “There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,
    Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.”
    William Shakespeare, “Hamlet”

  277. Val

    He would be marched off to prison for not testifying now , already committed.

    His site could have been hi-jacked.

    Looks like the leftist are involved , this looks like their MO.

    It doesn’t make any sense for these lawyers to be fighting over this case. When this goes down there will not be enough lawyers to handle all the law suits.

    Orly better start updating her site more often before she starts losing public support.

    I for one would like to know if the BC was authenticated yet.

    If the court gave Orly discovery , I’m sure the Brits would turn over his records, being a subject of the Queen.

  278. CW,

    Thank you for the reply.

  279. Army D.A.V.

    So will it be GB or Kenya who has the BC? I’m worried Kenya will not co – operate .

  280. SueK–1221. You brought that on yourself.

    marmar–1227. Yes, I’ve heard that. The fresh white asparagus is the best. Very buttery.

    Michelle–1227.
    1. yes but it doesn’t look like that in a casserole or curry.
    2. a little of everything and some that, as the saying goes, if I tell you I’d have to cut your tongue out! Don’t panic or freak out! It’s just a saying and is always supposed to be humorous.

  281. I just added a Shakespeare quote that comes to mind.
    There are many things happening behind the scenes.
    We know what the enemy is all about.
    Let’s all stay focused on the goal.
    Wells

  282. TO:
    JeffM // September 16, 2009 at 8:48 am

    Val said:

    “What the heck is going on?”

    It’s simple Val. You have a no-name forger that pops up magically. Yes, Taitz is a little wacky and unpredictable, too.
    ==================

    I fully support Orly she has brought us a long way if not for Phil Berg, Larry Sinclair and Orly….we wouldn’t have Public Opinion shifting away from Obamaliar as much as it has.

    I has lawasy said and continues saying these cases will be won in the Court of Public Opnion and we are slowly moving in that direction even with the teh Bedmate Media sabotaging our every effort and covering up for Obamaliar and the Soros Puppet Factory.
    Just keep plugging along tell two friends and so on.
    Just last April 15 or July 4th who would imagine we would have the biggest March in over 20 yrs on the District of Criminals? We did it.
    Now is not the time to let up….just follow the words of the biggest Fraud in USA history “if they hit you hit them back TWICE AS HARD”

    Who will crack the next Acorn? If a fake pimp and hooker can destroy a huge Erosionist Organization imagine what else we can do. They are not smarter than us…..they just had a long headstart.
    We can do it. Just keep it going Victory is in sight…..these cowards when fully exposed will quickly abandon the battle field and run and hide.

    We are doing great damage, even though they and their associated Erosionist members in the Bedmate Media work very hard to cover it up and hide it. It is visible in the Desperation for an Apology.
    God is with us and so are all our Founding Fathers. Click on my name and read about one of them that NEVER EVER gave up even when his army turned and ran he FOUGHT ON for AMERICA. Peter Francisco was an Inspiring Giant.
    Keep it up, Never Give Up.

  283. BTW: I was listening to the news last night and the word” racist” sure is being played. They were wearing it out for months, but they’re really playing that card a lot lately. I think it’s been beat to death, but they continue.

    So my question is – Is Kenyan West ( or whatever his name is ) a racist? We know he’s a jacka$$ based on what the ROTUS says.
    And will Serena Williams be labeled a racist for verbally assaulting that line judge during her tournament?

    This racist chit is getting really old.

  284. Now the global elite have drug their failed puppet into the ring – former President Carter – hoping to further fuel the racial divide/tensions. This move should come as no surprise given the success of the recent march in Washington. It’s always interesting to see the order of things in the news.

  285. Patriot Dreamer

    Cass Sunstein and the regulatory “fairness doctrine”
    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=109969

  286. Patriot Dreamer

    Not a truly scientific poll, but:

    “45% Of Doctors Would Consider Quitting If Congress Passes Health Care Overhaul”
    http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article.aspx?id=506199

  287. Should the White House Play Role in Kennedy Replacement?

    You Decide

    Is the Obama White House out-of-bounds in calling the Massachusetts Senate president to lobby for a change in state election law to replace Sen. Ted Kennedy?

    http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2009/09/16/decide-white-house-help-choose-kennedys-replacement/

  288. PD,

    Medical care would be in chaos until they trained their brand of doctors, after the current ones leave.

    The morale would be abysmal, regardless of the number that left, which would leave patients inadvertently in compromised positions.

    Doctors work hard enough without this garbage thrown at them. It’s not just about money. There are many more lucrative ways to make money than to spend 10 to 15 years of your life working an average of 6o to 80 hours a week, under intense conditions.

  289. Did Carter Cross the Line?

    You Decide

    Did former President Jimmy Carter cross the line when he called Rep. Joe Wilson’s outburst ‘racism’?

    http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2009/09/16/decide-carter-obama-racism/

  290. twe-the way I’ve always heard that expression is:
    “If I tell you I have to shot you”…..

  291. Obama Collecting Web Users’ Data

    The White House is collecting and storing comments and videos placed on its social-networking sites such as Facebook, Twitter and YouTube without notifying or asking the consent of the site users.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/elections/2009/09/16/obama-collecting-web-users-data/?test=latestnews

  292. Patriot Dreamer

    venice // September 16, 2009 at 9:45 am

    Absolutely.

  293. I agree with Army D.A.V.

    First thing which hit my mind was Lucas Smith’s website was hacked. Seems like small potatoes to hack his youtube page, not to mention its happened to Orly aswell. Something this big I would imagine him doing a Video Message. Leaving comments on a youtube page in the right hand corner just doesn’t seem logical at this point. Always ask the question if this is Misinformation.

  294. Val–926: the race card is played in order to get people to shut up. If it was a real race issue, at this point in time, it would lead to real discussion. Nowadays, it is used to make people back away from the truth. Don’t let it happen. Call them on it when you see/hear it.

    Michelle–946: that, too! One or the other, or both, can be done!

  295. Don’t forget Judicial Watch is Challenging Hillary Clinton’s Constitutional Eligibility for Secretary of State

    Today

    Judicial Watch, the public interest group that investigates and prosecutes government corruption, announced today that a lawsuit challenging the constitutional eligibility of Hillary Clinton to be Secretary of State (Rodearmel v. Clinton, et al., (D. District of Columbia)) will be heard by a special three-judge panel of the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia:

    Date: Wednesday, September 16
    Time: 9:30 AM ET
    Location: Courtroom 22A
    The E. Barrett Prettyman Federal Courthouse
    333 Constitution Avenue, N.W.
    Washington, D.C. 20001

    http://www.judicialwatch.org/news/2009/sep/september-14-2009-hearing-week-lawsuit-challenging-hillary-clintons-constitutional-eli

  296. Orly says
    Please don’t listen to vicious rumors

    http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1/

  297. With the implications of whats at stake here, don’t be surprised to see more misinformation, whether Lucas Smith is out or not. Apparently hacking a website isn’t very hard for trained people. Do you think the Left Mafia machine is going to sit still? They will do any small attack in bunches all the time to derail this anyway they can. Take CW’s advice and keep your focus. As for those who say that DOJ and SCROTUS is in the tank, don’t be so sure. There are many onlookers waiting for there moment.

  298. Cartoon notice:

  299. LM // September 16, 2009 at 9:48 am

    Obama Collecting Web Users’ Data

    The White House is collecting and storing comments and videos placed on its social-networking sites such as Facebook, Twitter and YouTube without notifying or asking the consent of the site users.

    =============
    LM— I’m sure they are collecting all the
    Conservation Blog Sites as well such
    as this site is probably included. They know
    we are here and are watching what we blog.

  300. So what happens if Obama doesn’t produce records as ordered by Discovery within 30 days?

    http://www.oilforimmigration.org/facts/?p=3372#more-3372

  301. LM—
    From what I saw on the news this a.m. with
    Jimmy Carter—He crossed the line about
    Wilson. And, imho, Jimmy Carter has crossed
    SO many lines against America (in the M.E.) that it’s hard to keep track of him—is it dementia?

  302. Patriot Dreamer

    “Spreading the Wealth: The end of welfare reform as we knew it”
    http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=YTAxODA3OGM4MGMxZDY5MzQzMjNlNjgxODhmNjA3MjI=

  303. Did I hear it right? Did Beck just announce he has an interview with Obama on Monday night?

  304. Patriot Dreamer

    Prairie // September 16, 2009 at 10:15 am

    Did I hear it right? Did Beck just announce he has an interview with Obama on Monday night?
    ****************************************
    I thought I heard Beck say that, too.

    ??????????????????????????????

  305. PD, thanks, thought my ears were playing tricks on me.

  306. cq@ 9:57,

    I read Orly’s post. I don’t know what’s going on, but Larry has a copy of legal documents posted on his blog that he says he submitted to the courts and to Kreep ( I believe). And she didn’t address the rumors about Lucas Smith. …… ??????

  307. All-Sound Familiar?
    The Boy Who Cried Wolf
    There once was a shepherd boy who was bored as he sat on the hillside watching the village sheep. To amuse himself he took a great breath and sang out, “Wolf! Wolf! The Wolf is chasing the sheep!”
    The villagers came running up the hill to help the boy drive the wolf away. But when they arrived at the top of the hill, they found no wolf. The boy laughed at the sight of their angry faces.
    “Don’t cry ‘wolf’, shepherd boy,” said the villagers, “when there’s no wolf!” They went grumbling back down the hill.
    Later, the boy sang out again, “Wolf! Wolf! The wolf is chasing the sheep!” To his naughty delight, he watched the villagers run up the hill to help him drive the wolf away.
    When the villagers saw no wolf they sternly said, “Save your frightened song for when there is really something wrong! Don’t cry ‘wolf’ when there is NO wolf!”
    But the boy just grinned and watched them go grumbling down the hill once more.
    Later, he saw a REAL wolf prowling about his flock. Alarmed, he leaped to his feet and sang out as loudly as he could, “Wolf! Wolf!”
    But the villagers thought he was trying to fool them again, and so they didn’t come.
    At sunset, everyone wondered why the shepherd boy hadn’t returned to the village with their sheep. They went up the hill to find the boy. They found him weeping.
    “There really was a wolf here! The flock has scattered! I cried out, “Wolf!” Why didn’t you come?”
    An old man tried to comfort the boy as they walked back to the village.
    “We’ll help you look for the lost sheep in the morning,” he said, putting his arm around the youth, “Nobody believes a liar…even when he is telling the truth!”

  308. I know people are wishing Larry Sinclair well with his new book. May I suggest that someone ask him to consider putting his book in a Kindle version? A lot of people are going to Kindle or other electronic ebook readers and he might get even more readership if he does that too. Just a thought.

  309. CW–Here’s the roll call list of votes on censuring Wilson yesterday. (At least Barney Frank didn’t vote to censure but voted “present”…considering he has been censured for something that really deserved censure. Still not commendable but better than out and out voting for censure).

    http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2009/roll699.xml

  310. Michelle // September 16, 2009 at 12:28 am

    Ya, Michelle…again. I’ll nevah learn….

  311. Patriot Dreamer

    Michelle // September 16, 2009 at 10:22 am

    Also applies to “racist”. Cry racism when it’s not appropriate too many times, and people will stop paying attention. Kind of like what’s happening now.

    Need to revist the “how to play the race card correctly” video (play it only when necessary!):

  312. Val, yes, I noticed all that. Just passing on what Orly said..

    I do not know wtf is going on. this is the strangest largest real, oh so real , soap opera I’ve ever followed.
    My instincts tell me Orly is not an Obot. Perhpas not perfect but not an Obot.
    and we all know Larry does not lie.
    Lucas on the other hand . Hmmmm?

  313. USCCB Press Release: Health Care

    http://www.usccb.org/comm/archives/2009/09-179EA.shtml

    Lobbying Planned today: Abortion Issue

    http://www.catholicnews.com/data/stories/cns/0904057.htm

    Is the Catholic Church unaware that the pp lied about what is in the Health Care Bill? Are they being led to believe federal funding for abortions was deleted from this bill? Is this the typical bait and switch?

  314. SueK Patriot Dreamer
    I was laughing so hard last night, yogurt all over the carpeting? Sticky. Messy Gosh

    Racism-that was what I was thinking about, they have beaten that poor horse to death and beyond. They are rendering “racism” meaningless.

  315. cq @ 10:31,

    I hear ya! WTF is going on? I’m with you!

  316. twe: As usual, thanks for the comic relief!

    However, that article about the free college tuition “lottery” takes the cake! What will they think of next?

    Oh yes, serve in the pp’s army and get a college education free!

  317. Tina,

    As I understand Larry has made his book available on kindle as of today.

  318. Patriot Dreamer…………LOVE THE VIDEO!

  319. I hope all the people in Pa. give Sen. Casey
    the boot. This guy got in on his fathers name (ex Gov of Pa.) I have not heard any news on are local staions about his pro vote
    for Acorn

  320. Alex // September 16, 2009 at 8:31 am

    Full disclosure: I’m no Bush fan. But he sure nails it in this quote, at the end:

    “Bush: Obama Has No Clue”

    “Tuesday, September 15, 2009 4:15 PM

    By: Jim Meyers

    “President George W. Bush’s former speechwriter Matt Latimer reveals that Bush considered Barack Obama unfit for the White House and predicted that vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin would be a disaster for the GOP.

    ++++++++++
    it just keeping getting interesting, doesn’t it?

  321. twe: That CZAR video was priceless! Thanks for sharing!

  322. Patriot Dreamer // September 16, 2009 at 10:16 am

    Prairie // September 16, 2009 at 10:15 am

    Did I hear it right? Did Beck just announce he has an interview with Obama on Monday night?
    ****************************************
    I thought I heard Beck say that, too.

    ??????????????????????????????
    ++++++++++++++
    You have got to be kidding?
    For what purpose?

    Will Obama resign on Beck’s show is my only
    thought. Little chance of that, probably.

  323. If Glenn does have him on, Glenn should have
    a body guard, not kidding.

  324. It is astounding that the American people at this time and this place in history, while engaging in an on-going war have as their representatives in the Executive, Legislative and Judicial the most misguided group of nit-wits that could be gathered in one spot. Most of their antics are juvenile at best, most are criminal. Who asked them to assault the Constitution on a daily basis? The are not governing for the people of the United States, a case could be made that they are governing against the people. Democrats you are by far the worst, being out of power has driven you insane. Republicans go after them like a heat seeking missile.
    I’m a registered Democrat and all Americans should be ashamed of those who are in power calling themselves Democrats, they are Communist, Socialist, Fascist, Totalitarian despots. If not actively participating, they are sympathizing with these factions. They will be out of power for a very long time after this, if they don’t totally crash the party in the meantime. This Democratic party is so bad, it has to go-with Acorn, Obama not NBC it looks more like a criminal enterprise than a political party.

  325. Poor Marcus Lloyd: He gets no respect from the left, either.

    http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/09/black_tea_party_express_tour_t.html

  326. Val—
    I’m wondering all the same things—What is
    going on. I have no idea now what the
    confusion with Orly, Larry, & Lucas is.
    Guess we’ll find out eventually.

  327. Oops…that’s Lloyd Marcus! my bad…

  328. this thread certainly lacks the ‘tone’ of Saturday’s glee over the D.C. rally…
    interesting that commentors here haven’t lost HRC in their ‘peripheral vision’ while the current focus is, admittedly on ‘all-things Barry’;
    looking forward to a new ‘thread’, CDub.
    ‘Morning all.
    ——————————————————
    While walking to my car just before sunrise
    A beautiful sight was low in the eastern skies
    The New Moon there, just a sliver of light
    And just to the side of it a smaller one, so bright

    It just reminded me of who’s really in control:
    The LORD of heaven and earth
    The Captain of my soul…

  329. Linda from NY @ 10:49: I’m guessing you were driving with your knees on the steering wheel, both hands occupied putting on some make-up in the rear-view mirror…and that’s why the names appeared in reverse; hope you didn’t spill your coffee, too…hehehe…

  330. Thanks twe for vote list

  331. Portuguese War Hero….

    Economic 9/11 video. I’m unable to view it…”an error occurred.” I’ll try later. Thanks for pointing it out. There’s so much on here to read and view I tend to miss things.

  332. And do you wear one of the ear-piece/hands-free cell phones?!…everyone’s so dang BUSY these days….multi-tasking while driving, especially. They really need to perfect the robot-chauffeur technology soon…unless you can afford a live one.

  333. Patriot Dreamer

    Linda from NY,

    That article by Lloyd Marcus was wonderful. Thank you for sharing it. I was truly blessed to hear him sing live and in person on Saturday at the 9/12 rally. I only wish that I could have been a bit closer to the stage so that I could have seen him! Does anyone have his e-mail address? I’d like to send him a note.

  334. Re-do: Not driving; just typing with brain fatigue, that’s all. Thank God…didn’t have my hands on the coffee at the time; sadly, I only have two…hands, that is. But, thanks for sympathizing.

  335. “I have a dream that one day even the state of Mississippi, a state sweltering with the heat of injustice, sweltering with the heat of oppression, will be transformed into an oasis of freedom and justice.” The Rev. Martin Luther King Jr.
    I have a dream today too. In a country sweltering with the heat of injustice, sweltering with the heat of oppression, will be transformed into an oasis of freedom and justice and people like Mr. Marcus can be a conservative and if he expresses conservative values he will be left in peace, and not blasted with phony calls of racism and veiled threats.
    On the subject of hyphenated divisions (stupid) in our country. What about people like me, I would need about 15 hyphens.

  336. Patriot Dreamer: You are very welcome! Try his website; there is probably a contact address there. Please let me know if you succeed in contacting him…thanks.

    Lloyd Marcus’s website is LloydMarcus.com

  337. Michelle: Hear! Hear!

    Frustrating, isn’t it?

  338. Michelle // September 16, 2009 at 10:33 am

    Yeah, Michelle, with twe’s posts (even with warnings attached) you just never know where food/beverage will end up.

    I’ve invested in a half-dozen large baby bibs. Since I can’t seem to follow my own advice and put the food down before I click on one of twe’s links, this may be the solution! I’ll let y’all know how it’s working out…

  339. Portuguese Revolutionary War Hero – Peter Francisco // September 16, 2009 at 9:25 am

    HERE IS MY FAVORITE -“NEVER GIVE UP” by Eddie Lawrence. This was back in the 50’s

  340. Patriot Dreamer-excellent video re: racism

  341. twe-I have an idea. They throw racism, we throw comedy back in their face. We need to invent some quick one liners.

  342. A little OT: ‘was at a civic function last evening; which, following the sound of the gavel, opened with the call for all to stand and recite the Pledge of Allegiance…something I hadn’t been asked/called upon to do in some time. When we got to the part “and to the REPUBLIC, for which it stands…” I gotta tell you that I thought of this place, and you all…with a bit of a lump in my throat…and a renewed sense of pride…and the others in the room, of all different colors and faiths…with hands over their hearts…spoke it out: loudly. It was, indeed, a sweet moment.

  343. Patriot Dreamer

    Thanks Linda and Prairie for Lloyd Marcus’ e-mail!

  344. Peter: Yup, that about sums it up! Thanks for sharing!

    Prairie: Thanks for helping Patriot Dreamer!

    Any new poems? Working on it? Hope so. Looking forward to your next one. What about one on ACORN? Naw…too depressing!

  345. Patriot Dreamer

    Glenn Beck just said that one estimate has the 9/12 rally at 1.7 million people. I think he said that the University of Pennsylvania (? – not sure if I caught the name of the university correctly) has a computer program that makes an estimate based on the photos.

  346. Re-do: Thanks for sharing your experience! I would imagine we all have experienced many teary-eyed moments in the past week! And, what a week it has been! Feel like I’m riding a roller-coaster every day. How ’bout you?

  347. The Greatest Sucker’s Rally in History?
    Posted Sep 15, 2009 01:20pm EDT by Henry Blodget in Investing, Recession
    Related: dia, spy, qqqq, ^djia, ^gspc
    In the past six months, Aaron and I have talked a lot about the similarity between the rally of early 1930 and the one we’re having today.
    The early 1930 rally came after the market had fallen nearly 50% in the fall of 1929. The spring rally took the market up nearly 50% again, to a level that was only about 20% below the previous peak.
    That rally, of course, was also the biggest sucker’s rally in history. After the market peaked in April 1930, it crashed again, eventually ending up down 89% from the 1929 high and more than 80% from the 1930 high. The market did not reach the 1930 high again for another quarter of a century.
    Our current rally came after a crash that was actually slightly more severe than the 1929 crash (53% versus 48%). It has taken the market up more than 50% from the low. Our current rally has also lasted slightly longer than the 1930 rally did.
    Today’s rally, of course, may actually be the start of a great new bull market, one that will climb the “wall of worry” back toward the previous record highs. On the other hand, it may yet also be another version of what happened in 1930.
    We won’t know for sure what today’s market is until we look at it with the genius of 20/20 hindsight. As yet another reminder of how similar the patterns up to this point have been, check out this excellent compilation of New York Times clippings from early 1930 put together by Dan Alpert of Westwood Capital.

    http://finance.yahoo.com/tech-ticker/article/330828/The-Greatest-Sucker's-Rally-in-History?tickers=dia,spy,qqqq,%5Edjia,%5Egspc&sec=topStories&pos=8&asset=&ccode=

  348. No me gusta roller coasters…nunca/nada/never.

  349. SueK,
    Looking up Marcus for PD, I also sent him the “We Will Rock You” spoof. Perhaps as a song writer he will get a laugh out of it.

  350. LindaK,
    I posted a spoof yesterday afternoon – our rap turned into classic rock. I was in a Wierd Al kinda mood I guess.

  351. Helloooo NooYawk!
    If I woulda been looking in the rear-view mirror, I mighta writ “lumps in my eyes” or “tears in my throat”…but I don’t too much worry who’s behind me…I try to be on the lookout for where I’m going!

  352. Prairie // September 16, 2009 at 11:22 am

    Excellent, Prairie! If Lloyd wants to produce it, I’ll volunteer as ‘backup banger’ with two hard shoes and two clapping hands :).

  353. What a mess! I don’t trust any of them on either side to do anything in the interest of the American people. Creating chaos seems to be the “rule of the day.”

    http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2009/09/senate_republicans_refuse_to_c.html

  354. SueK,
    Take your bib off first.

  355. Re-do: Glad you are keeping your eyes on the road and your coffee off the keyboard!

    Happy Day, Patriot!

  356. Patriot Dreamer

    My theory on the “bait and switch” of these various health care bills:

    Various Democrats have demonized health insurance companies, but the end result of these health care insurance bills will end up handing more profits to health insurance companies.

    Follow with me here: none of these bills opens up competition between states by allowing companies to sell health insurance policies across state lines (remember California small business owner Catherine Bragg), so their semi-monopolies on health care insurance markets in individual states remains intact.

    Also, the federal government will mandate that everyone must get “acceptable” health insurance. Fail to do so and you have to pay a hefty penalty to the IRS. Approximately 8.4 million uninsured Americans are between the ages of 18-25 and believe that they are “indestructible”. They’re young and healthy and believe that they do not need health insurance. Plus, they’d rather spend their disposable income on other things – beer money, perhaps. At any rate, the mandate to require individuals to purchase “acceptable” health insurance would add some 8.4 new customers onto the health insurance companies rolls. These new customers are young and healthy, so it’s like free money to the insurance companies at little risk.

    So, publically the Democrats have been demonizing the health insurance companies, but, in reality, insurance companies will financially benefit from the bills currently under consideration in Congress.

  357. Re-do I had that same feeling when I watched the video re: the history of the writing of The Star Spangled Banner.

  358. Another story about the 9-12 Protest from a participant…enjoy!

    http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/09/what_i_saw_at_the_revolution.html

  359. My heart breaks to post this:

    Judge land has denied the TRO for Capt. Rhodes, and granted the motion to dismiss, as well as allowing the defendants to recover their costs from the plaintiffs.

    The Order can be viewed here:

  360. Obama said in the czar video paraphrasing he will hold himself accountable to the letter and spirit of the Law. Obama you’re not an NBC-keep your word for once Resign today.
    Czar if you are a czar then you should dress like one, like the czars in the video. Any costume shop should be able to outfit THE CZARS. As loyal Americans they should be ashamed of that title. Of course we know about the bad end that came to Czar Nicholas and his family. Russia felt so guilty that Yeltsin had the family buried properly.

  361. Patriot Dreamer: Thanks for your take on the Health Care fiasco.

    I agree. After all, our pp has already made a deal with the insurance companies that will “diminish” their losses [?] so how are we going to get any relief from them? It’s a no-brain-er whose side he is on anyway; certainly , not ours.

    Wish we had a fighter in the House and/or Senate but alas, we don’t and even if we did, he/she would be “shouted out” of the debate.

  362. another BS judge who doesn’t know the Constitution

    he should be hanged by his balls
    for his treasonist decision

    but we already knew he was an OBOT from his previous idiotic questions and decisions

    this is what happens when far left liberals take over society and the justice system by incorporating their own law making judges

    what a crock of bull

  363. Celente: Revolution next for U.S.

  364. from previous history on this judge
    why didn’t orly ask him to be replaced
    like she did in the cArteR case?

    you can’t keep going down the same rathole

    with this obot judges

  365. My heart breaks to read it..

  366. Maybe the lump was in my chest…I did have my reading glasses in the left-side pocket where my hand was…no teary-eyed stuff…just the specks in my coat pocket. It was more of a sense of just ‘yeh: that’s what it is! not a ‘democracy’…a word which (I think this is right) appears nowhere in the Constitution or the Declaration of Independence. It sorta gets hammered on a bit here…siting the difference: but that’s ’cause it’s important to ‘define our terms’.

  367. Thanks, Venice, for the info.

  368. Prairie: I feel the same, but I have to say I did not have much hope or trust that Judge Land would do anything else. For me, it was all in his questioning of Rhodes and his treatment of Orly’s enthusiasm. He made everyone wait two days before he made his decision; not because he had to think it over, but just because he had already made it and had to formally pen it IMHO. The key: Rhodes had not refused any prior orders, and she was baited into the question about McCain and Bush…my indication he was up to no good in his line of questioning.

  369. da verg

    I believe Orly did ask him to be replaced and it was denied.

  370. Patriot Dreamer

    Another opinion on why the health care bills currently in Congress will not accomplish real reform:

    http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200909/health-care

    I disagree with him on some things, but I mostly agree with him.

  371. Prairie // September 16, 2009 at 11:27 am

    OK…will do. Wouldn’t look professional in the vid, anyway.

  372. Linda–you’re welcome

    maddie–1047: I’m with you. Someone should contact Glenn Beck re protection and advise him to keep in mind Alinsky tactics when you recall that O has someone that tastes his food in order to insure that it’s not poisoned. Watch out Glenn…

    CW: you’re welcome.

    SueK: BibsRUs

  373. Post-racial? I think not, but not because WE do not see race, but because too many keep harping on it. Wonder what Lloyd Marcus thinks of this? My bet: He would be offended.
    Wonder, too, what Joe Wilson says about these racial attacks. After all, he lives in the South!

    http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2009/09/jimmy_carter_says_youre_a_raci.html

  374. Don’t mean to harp on this race thing, but this has gone too far IMHO.

    http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/09/16/dissent-thy-name-is-racism-in-obamaland/

  375. Patriot Dreamer

    Found this comment on Free Republic on the Max Baucus health care bill:

    ***************************************
    “Also includes this nugget:

    “The Secretary would ensure that in each state exchange, at least one plan provides coverage of abortions beyond those for which Federal funds appropriated for the Department of Health and Human Services are permitted.

    In other words, the fed gov’t is going to require every state – regardless of its laws – to provide insurance that covers abortion-on-demand.

    FAIL.

    The Secretary would also ensure that in each state exchange, at least one plan does not provide coverage of abortions beyond those for which Federal funds appropriated for the Department of Health and Human Services are permitted.”

    The gov’t will require an option that limits coverage to the above-mentioned conditions (which are non-starters anyway).

    So, anyway you cut it, this bill, by requiring states to offer abortion-on-demand insurance, is indirectly mandating abortion coverage with your taxes. States can still prohibit abortion if they so choose, but since all 50 states allow it, it’s guaranteed that your taxes will finance an innocent child’s death.”
    *****************************************

  376. Another day, another death,
    Yet, we must fight till our last breath.
    Deceit and lies will never win,
    Dusted off to rise again.

    Da Verg,
    I’m working on my words to rhyme with “BALLS”

  377. A tribute to Patrick Swayze…thot you might enjoy!

    http://uppitywoman08.wordpress.com/2009/09/15/rip-patrick-swayze/

  378. Patriot Dreamer

    An opinion on health insurance “reform” from a Florida Neurosurgeon:
    http://www.campaignforliberty.com/article.php?view=217

  379. Patriot Dreamer: I wonder if the Catholic Bishops know about this or they are just taking the pp’s word he’s deleted it! Yeah, the states will not help quell this outrage, either. The Secretary; is that the HHS Secretary?

  380. Prairie: halls, calls, withdrawls, crawls, stalls…I used to have a book with rhyming words in it; wish I could find it, but do know there is one available…might help you in your quest for the right, rhyming word. Just saying…

  381. LM,

    Thanks for the video on Celente. I hadn’t seen this one. I follow him, Webster Tarpley and Max Keiser routinely. They’re usually all on the same page.

    He’s spot on…this is a cover-up, NOT a recovery!

  382. Everyone needs to listen to this show tonight!

    Carl Swenson will begin to reveal the “PLAN”

    7:00 PM EST/6:00PM CST/4:00 PM PST

    Listen here tonight

  383. the judge obviously was biased when he called
    the Constitution

    talking points

    his decision should be immediately appealed

    putting someone’s life on the line
    is NOT DAMAGES enough, for a usurper?

    liberal at the extreme shows no mercy for human life, another example here

  384. i for one will not let my funds
    go to the murder of an innocent
    victim

    let them try and come and collect from me

    i told you all this before they are
    trying to force their extreme liberal agenda down our throats

    i say no

  385. Patriot Dreamer

    Linda from NY // September 16, 2009 at 12:21 pm

    The Secretary; is that the HHS Secretary?
    ****************************************
    Yes.

  386. I know this was posted before, but Lame Cherry does have a point. The corruption is far greater and more widespread than we can even imagine.

    http://lamecherry.blogspot.com/2009/09/sappers-in-wire.html

  387. twe // September 16, 2009 at 10:01 am

    warning notice–iccckkk!!

    http://www.sondrak.com/index.php/weblog/easy_pickins/
    —————————-
    Probably a “coke booger”

  388. SIGN PETITION TO END THE FED

    Campaign for Liberty’s (Ron Paul) petition. Please sign and pass on.

    http://www.chooseliberty.org/auditfed1.aspx?pid=he2

  389. In regards to the distressing news about Land dismissing the case: We can’t give up! We have to keep peeling back the layers of slime on this corrupt usurper and the corrupt (hijacked) Democrat party. And the RINO’s!

    We have all been very civil but I’m starting to feel like going “disenfranchised, Islamic yutes” on their a$$es. This 40-ish mom of two young kids is pi$$ed. They would totally freak if we started torching stuff and rioting!

    I’m sort of kidding….

  390. Patriot Dreamer

    Look at the prices of precious metals today (chart on the right middle of the page):

    http://www.monex.com/

  391. HEY CNN,

    I do html/css/php professionally. I post here but not often… (lookup my “master plan” a couple of months ago).

    Very busy but please put me in contact as I would like to help the cause!!!

    CW, please forward my info if you can.
    Thanks.

    BTW — was in NYC the past couple of days and actually saw some “NOBAMA” shirts out there. Now that takes guts!

  392. I have begun an article to challenge Judge Land.

  393. Think Land dismissed Orly’s case knowing the suit in CA w/Judge Carter may kicks obuma arse. Can only hope!

  394. Patriot Dreamer

    GBAmerica // September 16, 2009 at 12:52 pm

    Change union bosses were counting on!

  395. So, publically the Democrats have been demonizing the health insurance companies, but, in reality, insurance companies will financially benefit from the bills currently under consideration in Congress.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Not if the gov’t plan puts them out of business for the critics say the insurance companies, even with 8 million new subscribers, can’t compete with the fed/state-run premiums, which esssentially are subsidized with our tax dollars??
    And let us not forget the Hawaii plan that put that state’s budget in a deficit…….with so many children placed on the state plan that saved money through cheaper premiums for their parents, it had to have resulted in insurance companies suffering also, as they lost clients.

  396. PD 12:17p.m.

    Great article. Everyone should read it. Your life might depend on it.

  397. Rocknee-It’s possible, I wonder if Orly will file an appeal. I’ve lost track of how many cases she has ongoing, along with all of the other lawyers.
    Andrea Shea King radio patriot has some very interesting articles today. One is sickening to say the least. The underground reporters v/s Planned Parenthood
    http://radiopatriot.blogspot.com/

  398. Prairie // September 16, 2009 at 11:45 am

    My heart breaks to post this:

    Judge land has denied the TRO for Capt. Rhodes, and granted the motion to dismiss, as well as allowing the defendants to recover their costs from the plaintiffs.

    The Order can be viewed here:

    As I’ve said since November, 2008, this plan of corruption runs deep….hard to find one justice not on the take or afraid???? Just saying.

  399. Where was this taken from? Great 9/12 pic:

  400. twe: Thanks for the link to poetry rhymes…that’s “Kewl!”

    That pix was Phenomenal! Thanks for sharing!

  401. CW: Looking forward to your “New Post!”

  402. Patriot Dreamer

    JJ // September 16, 2009 at 1:00 pm
    ******************************************

    Yes, the “bait and switch” I was talking about in my post is the short term effect. The long term goal, of course, is to force everyone onto government run and government paid health care. As someone who currently has health care courtesy of the United States government, I will tell you that it stinks, but I am thankful that we still have the choice (for now) to pay out of pocket or to purchase private health care insurance when the government’s so-called “health care” doesn’t meet our family’s needs.

  403. From the Steady Drip blog
    All-I don’t get the part about paving contractor for the road to hell????
    Wednesday, September 16, 2009
    No matter your motives, Orly, you hurt the cause!
    Ah yes, once again we run into the paving contractor for the road to hell.
    Judge tosses out Army captain’s complaint questioning president’s birth; Orly Taitz on notice
    BY ALAN RIQUELMY – ariquelmy@ledger-enquirer.com
    U.S. District Court Judge Clay Land today tossed out a complaint by an Army captain fighting deployment to Iraq by questioning the legitimacy of President Barack Obama.
    Land also put attorney Orly Taitz, who represents Capt. Connie Rhodes and is a leader in the national “birther” movement, on notice by stating that she could face sanctions if she ever files a similar “frivolous” lawsuit in his court.
    “(Rhodes) has presented no credible evidence and has made no reliable factual allegations to support her unsubstantiated, conclusory allegations and conjecture that President Obama is ineligible to serve as president of the United States,” Land states in his order. “Instead, she uses her complaint as a platform for spouting political rhetoric, such as her claims that the president is ‘an illegal usurper, an unlawful pretender, [and] an unqualified imposter.’”
    Check back with ledger-enquirer.com for more on this story.

  404. As treason wins again we shout “Let’s hang um by the balls!”
    Takin’ note and takin’ names to nail um to the wall.
    Then it occures, and it’s observed. . .
    They have no balls at all!

  405. aka: German Sleeper Agent

    meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

  406. Prairie, I love it..

  407. cq,
    You won’t see that in a Hallmark.

  408. The next Rally needs to be at The United States Supreme Court. They are suppose to work for We The People…Not the criminals in Politics. Where is the Checks and Balances here? Fight on my Fellow Americans. God Bless us all in our time of need!!

  409. and when the republic was lost
    remember Brutus nailed
    Cicero’s hands to the walls of the Senate

  410. or was it Marc Antony?

  411. mrsmwp // September 16, 2009 at 12:39 pm

    In regards to the distressing news about Land dismissing the case: We can’t give up! We have to keep peeling back the layers of slime on this corrupt usurper and the corrupt (hijacked) Democrat party. And the RINO’s!

    We have all been very civil but I’m starting to feel like going “disenfranchised, Islamic yutes” on their a$$es. This 40-ish mom of two young kids is pi$$ed. They would totally freak if we started torching stuff and rioting!

    I’m sort of kidding….
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    And you’re sort of not….I fear for the next ‘rally’, and I use that word lightly, in that it may not be peaceful…’peaceful’ was tried with nothing gained.

  412. The Obama File:

    “It is obvious from this judge’s written opinion that he is hostile toward the very suggestion that Obama might not be “natural born” citizen, and never intended to let any “birther” case proceed.

    And once again, we have a judge using the bogus “birth certificate” posted at FactCheck.org as evidence — he references it at least twice in his decision — but refused to even look at any other “evidence.”

    http://www.theobamafile.com/ObamaLatest.htm

  413. citizenwells // September 16, 2009 at 12:47 pm

    I have begun an article to challenge Judge Land.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Whatcha wanna bet he’s increased security??

  414. JJ
    I still believe the pen is mightier than the sword.

  415. Prairie, perhaps not, but bumper stickers should be ordered.

    As treason wins again we shout “Let’s hang um by the balls!”
    Takin’ note and takin’ names to nail um to the wall.
    Then it occures, and it’s observed. . .
    They have no balls at all!

  416. Shit will hit the fan when health care get’s pushed thru, and the dollar crashes.

    http://www.marketwatch.com/investing/index/DXY/charts

  417. Please read…
    The biggest and most secretive gathering of ships in maritime history lies at anchor east of Singapore. Never before photographed, it is bigger than the U.S. and British navies combined but has no crew, no cargo and no destination – and is why your Christmas stocking may be on the light side this year

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/moslive/article-1212013/Revealed-The-ghost-fleet-recession-anchored-just-east-Singapore.html#ixzz0RIF1E2Rk

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/moslive/article-1212013/Revealed-The-ghost-fleet-recession-anchored-just-east-Singapore.html

  418. Seems to me that if the dual citizen vis-a-via Leo’s argument had been used without any docs just historial proofs that may have been more powerful since the judge would not have been able to use factcheck in the manner he did.It should have been used to notate the shifting sands on that site juxtaposed to the consistancy and pattern of past jurisprudence on article II.

  419. Attacking Orly And Not Obama…Snakes Amongst Us

    Orly Taitz accused of suborning perjury for Barnett v. Obama — updated including affidavit, etc.

    By Arlen Williams

    This is the breaking news mentioned last night in Investigating Obama and The Awakening. Below is a post by Larry Sinclair, from his blog, “…on all things Obama,” about what he indicates he was asked by Dr. Taitz, to do.

    Affidavit to be Filed with Federal Court in Santa Ana Today
    http://www.renewamerica.com/columns/williams/090915

    They rather tie Orly up in court with their bs and take away her time to file and prepare for cases…Someone/Someones are being brought off

  420. cq 2 pm–thanks for reposting this. It needs to be read.

  421. cc warrior–bought off? Probably more than just one or two people. I mean, it’s very cost effective. Why spend $$$$$$$ on high priced attorneys when you buy folks for a lot less?

  422. http://thepostnemail.wordpress.com/2009/09/16/judge-land-rules-against-rhodes/

    Judge Land rules against Rhodes,

    Imposes penalties upon her

    And threatens Orly!

  423. another OBOT in wolves clothing
    the piece doesn’t make sense whatsoever,
    in a deposition the commentor is free to
    address questions undetered.

    He has answered no questions at all, and yet , he claims a crime has been committed? What a joke this is.

  424. twe….you’re right
    this is just so heart breaking to witness

  425. Fox reporting that Axelrod is making calls and lobbying for Kennedy’s seat to be filled before Jan 19 election.

  426. 1) We need to rally against the DOJ along with the Supreme Court – the DOJ is supposed to protect US, not the usurper
    2) Didn’t Cook’s case set any precedent? Why would the Rhodes case be any different?

    I think it was LaRouche that recently said that there are only 2 branches operating now: the Executive and the Legislative

  427. Heartbreaking it is.

    Orly must be finally reduced to tears.

    Hang in there Orly, get some sleep.

  428. Corrupt Dem. Lawmaker Behind Wilson Rebuke

    A deadbeat California congresswoman who funded her political campaigns with money from foreclosed homes is behind the admonishment of a fellow lawmaker who interrupted a presidential speech.

    http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2009/sep/corrupt-lawmaker-behind-wilson-rebuke

  429. Kim, makes you wonder what happened to Obama’s attorneys. did they quit? I agree we should rally against the Supreme court. They are supposed to protect us.

  430. http://www.spike.com/video/travis-tritt-lord/2790322
    Hey Sue!!!!Here’s another one!It’s country but couldn’t find it on you tube!!

  431. If you people won’t consider the possibility that this Orly Taitz person is a rank incompetent, or worse a plant, you’re no better than a garden variety Obot.

    Exactly what do you know about this person “Orly Taitz”.

    Nothing.

  432. Sue,
    The song is by Travis Tritt”Lord have mercy on the hard working man”
    Just love it!
    God Bless America!

  433. Justice Land wants SCROTUS to decide on the fate of Soetoro. He’s a coward and a bafoon. He could have ruled in favor of the Captain without discovery, and then let SCROTUS deal with it anyway. That would have protected the Captain from any potential harm until the real decision is made.

    After all SCROTUS is the only one who’s going to be able to rule effectively on this matter. But alas, they won’t because they didn’t before.

  434. Kim Said:

    “I think it was LaRouche that recently said that there are only 2 branches operating now: the Executive and the Legislative”

    No Kim, there is only one:

    The TYRANNICAL Branch!!

  435. Keep trying! Don’t give up.

  436. Ace we know why other talk and bash she’s doing. We know why other sit in the comfort of their home she traveling across states and country trying to get the cause told. She may not have been born in this country, and can’t pronounce English words to perfection, but she fights and love this country and thats all I need to know….While many talk the talk Orly walks the walks

  437. I’m a little concerned that Judge Carter was waiting to see what Judge Lane would do.

    Anyone have thoughts on that?

  438. John Charlton // September 16, 2009 at 2:16 pm

    Rhodes should take Land’s advice:

    REFUSE ANY AND ALL ORDERS BECAUSE THAT’S WHAT LAND TOLD HER IS THE “LAWFUL” THING TO DO!

    How do you like them apples?!?!

  439. she’s*

  440. I’ve been thinking about this since shortly after Barky took office (stole office, rather) and I really hate to say this but I believe it to be true:

    The race card comes out with disgusting regularity these days and if it keeps up, we’re not only going to see the second revolution, but a race war, as well.

    This has gone beyond ridiculous, pulling the race card whenever someone disagrees with another of color. Many posters have commented on the nauseating frequency of using race as an excuse, and peanut man Jimmah Carter (the second worst president this country ever had) had to back that up by throwing his convoluted two cents in yesterday.

    It ain’t the color, you damned fools, it’s the policies!

    Keep hammering the race card at every turn and there will be a revolt in proportions we’ve never seen before.

    Again, hate to say this, but to me, it’s as plain as black and white. I believe that this ROTUS has set race relations in this country back to pre -1950 levels.

    It’s a bloody shame.

  441. twe: It’s the “white thing to do!” LOL

  442. val said:

    “I’m a little concerned that Judge Carter was waiting to see what Judge Lane would do.

    Anyone have thoughts on that?”

    Who cares? Justice Clay Land just said that ANY AND ALL ORDERS FROM A USURPING “PRESIDENT” SHOULD BE IGNORED in order to make it a lawful argument instead of a political one.

    Patriot Active Duty military members: make it so.

  443. @ Ace: I know more about Orly Taitz than I know about the president of the united states.

    She has put herself on the line and in the spotlight for our constitution while he cowers in the shadows hiding his identity while destroying our country.

    Actions speak louder than words.

  444. Orly posted a good response to some of the rumors on her blog this morning. Worth reading. No mention of Smith though. I still think he just wanted $$$

  445. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to see that Obama is not eligible to be POTUS, in my opinion. Someone has to be brave enough to order discovery. If we’re all wrong, discovery will prove that. What’s wrong with ordering discovery? We’re talking about the POTUS.

  446. Carlyle,
    Beck won’t just harp on ACORN and the czars. The word he repeats most often is “corruption”. I think he will bring up more and more corrupt associations to Obama, and the government in general, and chip away at any vestige of credibility. Nixon didn’t resign the day after the Watergate break-in. The main difference between now and then is we don’t have the media on our side, which will make it much more difficult to raise the ire of the American public.

  447. cq,
    Obama is using the DOJ so we have to pay for his defense.

  448. Prairie // September 16, 2009 at 1:30 pm

    As treason wins again we shout “Let’s hang um by the balls!”
    Takin’ note and takin’ names to nail um to the wall.
    Then it occures, and it’s observed. . .
    They have no balls at all!

    Prairie, a jewel…and I see this repeated over and over..there will be no justice for the patriots….

  449. JeffM,
    Well said!

  450. GBAmerica // September 16, 2009 at 2:34 pm

    Got it, GB, thanks! Don’t listen to too much Country, but Travis, as always, comes through!

    Thanks for posting.

  451. Rhodes should take Land’s advice:

    REFUSE ANY AND ALL ORDERS BECAUSE THAT’S WHAT LAND TOLD HER IS THE “LAWFUL” THING TO DO!

    How do you like them apples?!?!

    >>>so a victory of sorts?

  452. Kim, exactly, I wonder how the obots feel about that.?

  453. I hate to break it you folks, but these eligibility cases will ‘never be heard’……EVER….until we take the steps that Carl, Joyce, and Rod are working on.

    http://www.blogtalkradio.com/PatriotsHeartNetwork/2009/09/15/The-Journey

    I know that no one wants to take the time to look into this, because it’s not quick and easy, and is not a magic bullet, but it’s the only way we are going to be able to have success.

    There is no Government, therefor the courts have no jurisdiction over this matter….not even the Supreme Court. The Corporation known as the United States has a different set of rules, and plays by a different book than what we’ve been led to believe all our lives.

    We have been reduced to the status of slaves, and as slaves, or enemies of the state, we have no standing to sue. The courts will “NEVER” allow one of these cases to go forward, until we tackle the root of the problem.

    Truth sucks, but it is what it is.

    Listen tonight as Carl presents us with the PLAN!

    7:00 PM/EST

    <a href="http://www.blogtalkradio.com/PatriotsHeartNetwork/2009/09/16/The-Citizens-Grand-Jury"This is how we're going to get it done

  454. How do you put a dollar amount on the attorney costs for US Attorneys? We already pay their salaries and they work for us, not the usurper. We definitely need to set up some kind of paypal fund for Rhodes so that she doesn’t have to shoulder the financial burden.

  455. Sorry, the link messed up. Here it is again…

    This is how we’re going to get it done

  456. What is so ironic, years ago this mess would have been handled by the ‘mafia’ league or handled legally in the courtrooms………today the ‘mafia’ league is the White House and the courtrooms.

  457. This was a high risk for Rhodes to take. We should not encourage people to do this who don’t have the funds to pay the anticipated court costs.

  458. *** New Post ***

    I am certain I could do better, but I am reasonably pleased.
    There is never enough time.

  459. Arlen Williams-isn’t that the one Orly removed the other day and said with friends like this who needs enemies?

  460. The South, since the US declared bankruptcy we’ve been operating under different laws.

    And since 9-11-01 we’ve been under a national emergency and we’ve been under different laws. Obama just renewed the national emergency. Why doesn’t anyone question why we need to be under a national state of emergency 8 years after 9-11-01? Bush and now Obama is using this to control us and limit our freedoms.

  461. Yep the same Arlen Wiliams
    To:
    arlenwilliams@yahoo.com
    Arlen Williams,
    I listened to your show the evening of 9/14, and toward the end when you started to smear Dr. Taitz, I found you unprofessional, even JB Williams found it distasteful enough to excuse himself from the rest of the show. Had you taken the time to research, you would have known it is Gary Kreep who is the “saboteur’ not Dr. Taitz.
    Remember when Obama was asking citizens to report their neighbor if they didn’t agree with his healthcare reform? Was it you who gave the Obama Administration the idea? Is that why you’re asking citizens to report to you about Dr. Taitz? Are you sharing the sheets with the Obama administration?
    http://investigatingobama.blogspot.com/
    Where have you been that you believe fastcheck.org? Weren’t you listening when Leo Denofrio was talking?
    Do your homework, investigate the facts. Had you taken the time to read Dr. Taitz’s blog, you would see that when she needs help, she posts it and anyone that has time does research and sends it to her. She has many volunteers who do whatever they can to help.
    The SS number that Dr. Taitz accidentally left in her blog was for one person, it was a from last year and it has been taken care of. How dare you put obstacles in the way of her time and research when she is the primary attorney on this eligibility issue working tirelessly and pro bona for over 18 months. Perhaps you should be asking Leo Denofrio to assist her. He is, after all, an expert.
    Suggest you drop the smear campaign and better utilize your time by volunteering to help instead of setting out to destroy someone who is trying desperately to save our country. Did you know Dr. Taitz speaks 5 languages, is a dentist, realtor, attorney, Mother of 3 and wife of a very loving and supportive husband? Suggest you go to and read all the articles written about her work, then go to her blog and spend some time catching up.
    G’day.
    Maria McMullen

  462. This was a high risk for Rhodes to take. We should not encourage people to do this who don’t have the funds to pay the anticipated court costs.
    >>>>>
    her life is a higher cost
    morality is higher
    now she has damages!!
    And she will not pay them, this judge was OBVIOUSLY biased and he probably didn’t even write this , the defense did.

  463. twe // September 16, 2009 at 3:10 pm

    Thanks, twe…my point *exactly!*

    This guy is FABULOUS and he’s spot on!

  464. ************************ New Post *****************************8

  465. Sue K: It may appear that is what has happened, but there are many people who still do not see race in their relationships with others. Consider the sources of this idiotic ranting! People of all race, creeds, religions, and political persuasions marched side by side in DC on 9-12. Nothing separated them from their cause, not even their signs! I do not see a race revolution in the future; I see a great number of people speaking out for what they believe is right and true and just. IMHO. Those who play the “Race Card” are showing their cards so to speak. Who wins the card game? Answer: no one. Will it strain relationships? Answer: Yes, but only among those who are racist. No change there.
    Just saying…

  466. Venice

    have said this before. I genuinely feel that if the will of the majority had been observed with this last election, first Hillary would have gotten the primary. Having failed that McCain would have won.

    =========
    Believe you have just summed it up.

  467. twe: That video was great! Nice to hear from someone who understands how the pp is pitting Americans against each other.

    Kudos…thanks for sharing!

  468. People we don’t need to hear from:

    Jimmy Carter
    Maureen Dowd
    Gibbs
    Alexrod
    Jesse Jackson
    Bill Cosby

    and, of course, Mr. & Mrs. O surper

  469. Michelle: Good find. I read that last night. What they are doing to Dr. Taitz, a naturalized American citizen who is fighting her heart and soul out for all Americans, is just sick! Thanks for sharing!

  470. maddie: Newp, we do not want to hear from you, and we refuse to listen to your racist drivel!

  471. http://www.oilforimmigration.org//

    A few positive comments concerning Judge Land’s decision today. Worth a look see and response from legals here.

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