Restore the Constitutional Republic, Dean Haskins, January 22, 2009, Plains radio,Chalice show, Constitutional roots, Galvanize organizations, Citizen Wells

I have worked with Dean Haskins and the organization on several
projects and we are in regular contact. Dean just sent this:
“The chairman of Restore the Constitutional Republic, Dean Haskins,
will be on the Crystal Chalice Show (Plains Radio) tonight,
Thursday, January 22, from 7:00-7:30 CST (8:00-8:30 EST). 
Chalice and Dean will be discussing the efforts underway by Restore
the Constitutional Republic to galvanize the numerous organizations
across the country that have similar motivations and intentions to
take our country back to its constitutional roots.”

“Restore the Constitutional Republic is an organization dedicated
to those patriots who recognize that our government has become
unresponsive to the will of those who desire . . . no, demand . . .
that our Constitution be upheld, defended, and preserved”


194 responses to “Restore the Constitutional Republic, Dean Haskins, January 22, 2009, Plains radio,Chalice show, Constitutional roots, Galvanize organizations, Citizen Wells

  1. zachjonesishome

    This was just posted on PlainsRadio blog:
    Interesting –

    Re: NEWEST LAWSUIT FILED(?): Kerchner v. Obama

    Apuzzo authored this excellent piece:


    Statements have been made in the public domain that if Obama was not born in Hawaii but rather in Kenya, that he actually committed a crime involving fraud. That leads me to think that if that were true, then Obama has a Constitutional and state common law right to avoid further self-incrimination and to remain silent. That could explain why he has neither talked publicly nor wants to talk in any court of law about where he was born. But his right to remain silent would not extend to withholding his original Certificate of Live Birth. Disclosure of documents is not testimonial (coming from a person’s mouth) and his 5th Amendment and state common law right to remain silent and to not incriminate himself would not prevent such disclosure. This leads me to the main point.

    Obama at present finds himself in a trilemma: (1) Does he state publicly that he was born in Hawaii if he knows he was not and thereby “perjure” himself in the court of public opinion should the truth be eventually discovered? If he so swore under oath before Congress or any court of law, it would be actual perjury. (2) Will he produce his original birth certificate which may show and will he tell the public the truth that he was not born in Hawaii but rather Kenya and thereby betray his natural instinct of self-preservation and his life-long ambition to be President of the United States? or (3) Does he remain silent as to where he was born and continue to refuse to release his original birth certificate and thereby earn the contempt of those in the public who believe that he has not convincingly proven that he is a “natural born Citizen” and eligible to be President? I submit that Obama has made the third choice.

    The consequences for Obama are the least drastic and he gains the most benefits under the choice involving remaining silent and not producing his original birth certificate which is exactly what he has done to date. There are at least two reasons for this:

    (1) To date, no court of law has been willing to accept any case challenging his “natural born Citizen” status. The courts have dismissed law suits against him for reasons of jurisdiction, standing, political question, justiciability, and for reasons unknown. These procedural obstacles have allowed him to escape having to defend the underlying merits of the claims against him which would necessarily involve his having to make declarations under oath as part of legal discovery and before the court itself in case of a trial. He will simply continue to pursue this procedural strategy, for being so successful will allow him to maintain his silence and not produce his original birth certificate with the cost to him personally of only having to pay his team of lawyers. This strategy explains why he is willing to spend enormous amounts of his own money and resources for his legal defense (maybe not even his own money if he can make a case that he can use his campaign contributions to meet the costs involved) and cause private individual plaintiffs and public institutions (courts and public entity defendants) to spend theirs with no end in sight. This strategy also provides great impetus to the sales of his past and future books, thereby further filling up his coffers. This strategy also explains why he is not willing to simply spend less than $100.00 and produce his original birth certificate for the benefit of those Americans who want to see it. Lastly, this strategy provides an answer to the question of, assuming that Obama in the end simply produces his original birth certificate which shows he was born in Hawaii, why would Obama risk the public then perceiving him as one who played a dirty little game for the sake of aggrandizing his own image and increasing his profits.

    (2) Obama wants (i) people who simply voted for him, (ii) people who are apathetic to the eligibility issue or because of ignorance, fear, or self-ambition refuse to address it; and (iii) people who in good faith believe he is eligible to be President (these categories may overlap), to believe that all the lawsuits and internet chatter questioning his eligibility to be President is political sour grapes, racism, or “tinfoil hat” conspiracy nonsense. These “explanations” for this outcry against him provide great camouflage for his silence and refusal to release his original birth certificate. This strategy limits any contempt backlash to only those who oppose him on the eligibility issue and to no one else, thereby greatly reducing the price associated with the public contempt component.

    The benefits Obama gains from stonewalling compared to the price he has to pay for complete disclosure makes the choice to refuse to speak about where he was born and to produce his original birth certificate most attractive for Obama. The stakes are high in this game for the Office of President. Obama has shown that he has the arrogance and audacity to play the game any which way he wants simply to win that Office and greatly profit thereby. The question for many concerned Americans who doubt whether he is eligible to be President is what they can do to get the nation’s political, legal, and social institutions to adequately and honestly investigate and decide whether he is indeed qualified to be President. Obama’s strategy is now preventing these Americans from learning the truth about whether he is eligible to be President. The ball is in the court of those who challenge Him.

    © Mario Apuzzo, Esq.

    Jamesburg, New Jersey

  2. zachjonesishome

    CitizenWells – Here are the times listed at PlainsRadio.

    Tonight’s Lineup: Crystal Chalice Show And Western StraightTalk

    6-8 The Crystal Chalice Show

    Tonight’s show is about Unity!!!

    6pm to 7pm: Morgan will update us on Orly’s day in court! We will also discuss Unity!

    7pm to 8pm: Unity in motion!
    Dean Haskins
    Steve Marquis

    8-10 Western Straight Talk
    Open Lines with Roy! You want to discuss it, Roy is there to banter with you!

  3. Can someone please contact the attorney for the new case that was filed above, and tell them they need to incorporate ALL of Obama’s aliases/prior names in that lawsuit. We don’t wan’t him to get off on a technicality, now do we?

  4. Thanks Zach.

  5. GAME – SET – MATCH ???

    You lawyers out there need to provide a full explanation, but here is the gist of the story:

    Many of us have been frustrated by the fact that Obama will not be disqualified for not being a Natural Born Citizen (he most definitely is not). But this is a rather special legal term that essentially nobody understands. Many people might think of this as capital punishment for someone going 36 in a 35 speed zone. But for those of us who know that Obama is not a US citizen – surely that is the “atomic bomb” that will catch everybody’s attention and get him tossed in with OJ Simpson where he belongs.

    But – maybe not – – –

    Last May, Obama was unexpectedly and mysteriously adopted by a Native American family. The best anyone could figure at the time, it was just a quirky ceremonial way to extend his base of special interest groups. But why all the bizarreness for a few Indians – surely they have no substantive effect on the election.

    But now we learn that Native Americans are given a great deal of leeway in such practices and that any Native American (including adoptees) becomes quickly and automatically a US citizen. Just present some tribal papers at a local courthouse and – VIOLA! – no green cards, no waiting periods, no tests, no oaths of allegiance, nothing. Instant citizenship.

    Obama’s Native American parents had a VIP pass to the inauguration. His daughters have been quietly getting to know them over the summer and have been calling them Grandpa and Grandma for months.

  6. Carlyle,

    Hopefully if he tries to use that bullshit “I was adopted by American Indians” crap to clear his name, someone with legal know how can show that there was indeed a clear attempt by Obama and his staff to use this as grounds for claiming citizenship in a round about way to by pass all laws and any legal action against him. The intent is clearly visible.

    Problem is, he was a U.S Senator long before he became so called “adopted” so i don’t think it will hold water. He was an illegal alien posing as a U.S Senator prior to 🙂

  7. SORRY, but an adoption does NOT get anyone NBC status. Has to be 2 American Citizen Parents and born here in US…………………why do we keep repeating this???

  8. Meet Obama’s new parents

    Native American Family To See Adopted Son Sworn In

  9. [the south] he is nothing BUT bullshit – and nobody has cared so far.

    [ca patriot] I understand the NBC issue as well as anyone – you didn’t read my post correctly – try again.

  10. Someone once wrote a way to keep the definition of NBC as simple as possible for us not educated in lawyer-speak. It seemed to make sense.

    “BLOOD and DIRT”. In other words, born to two US citizen parents (blood) on US soil (dirt).

    Works for me!

  11. If in fact Mr. Obama is challenged through court cases that assert he does not have authority to sign laws into effect opening up use of subpoenas. Wouldn‘t it follow that not only would he be exposed through this method,

    BUT also he could be held accountable for loss or damage to victims.

    So lets say he is exposed. Why not charge him with death or personal injury to servicemen under his command or victims of abortions which might be performed by illegitimate passage of FOCA. Serious stuff!
    If there is anything to this and he knows it may happen, it should terrify him, especially having strong self-preservation attorney instincts.

    Maybe he should be read his rights.

  12. Carlyle – you may be right.
    Obama may be claiming US citizenship through his adoption by Native American parents. Is this a legitimate adoption, if he is already reached his majority?

    Perhaps the reason that he does not want his Hawaiian birth ceftificate shown is that it was updated by the adoption.???

    If your assumption is true, then he was a US Senator illegally.

    Even more reason to push for Natural born citizen!

  13. Show your Natural Born Citizenship:

    Any “profits” from the sale will be donated to Citizen’s blog and other patriotic sites, blogs, and initiatives.

  14. zachjonesishome

    Really good radio show tonight. Sign me up. Zach

  15. Katie wrote: “BLOOD and DIRT”. In other words, born to two US citizen parents (blood) on US soil (dirt).

    Yep, it works for me too. Sometimes I think they try to read between the lines too much when it’s really quite simple!

  16. A natural born citizen is one who was BORN BORN BORN to TWO American citizens. Did I emphasize BORN? Adopted at 46 years old to American Indians does not change someone’s original vault copy birth certificate.

  17. Natural BORN citizen. BORN. (Just wanted to be sure ya got it).


    Sorry this not on topic (again) but speaks to Orwell’s 1984.

  19. zachjonesishome

    Good Night Everyone! Zach

  20. Good night Zach.

  21. I spoke to Larry Sinclair today.
    Jeff Rense is still looking it over.

  22. Janet —

    There is one more step — and its this:

    It is the ‘natural-born Citizens’ who establish the government — not vice versa — so they are the principals who can change the government at will. From this vast pool of undivided loyalties, we elect our President — and from nowhere else.

    The only other time the ‘natural -born Citizen’ phrase in the ‘Presidential Qualification Clause’ was used other than for eligibility for President, was when it was used as the key to emancipating the slaves by means of the 13th Amendment.

    Lincoln’s first appointee to the Supreme Court decided that the freed slaves were ‘natural-born Citizens’, and so the “Civil Rights Act of 1866” conferred upon ‘free blacks’ the same rights enjoyed by ‘free whites.’

    Thus, the ‘natural-born Citizen’ clause is one of the most important in the history of this Nation, and it is being misused right now — and it has been called by some the most discriminatory clause in the entire U.S. Constitution.

    Such comments only disclose ignorance of American constitutional history.

  23. Someone please find me a pre-2008 reference that claims that “natural born” means “having two US citizens for parents”.

  24. JeffM,

    I just ordered a shirt. bkw

  25. CW,
    Shep on Fox News keeps talking about the people, I believe he called us crackpots, who question the citizenship. I wrote him an email and maybe, just maybe if some others wrote him with the arguments he might check into it. It’s assumed he is natural born. From now on, I am Little White Dove–who is going to be Running Bear? Obama HAS to be the most dishonest person I have ever heard of. Wonder if he will move the natives into the White House? By the way, I am part Cherokee. lwd

  26. Otis,

    Please do some research as it’s been covered a million times on this site and others.

    And the most lethal blow of all is Senate Resolution 511 🙂

  27. Brenda – here’s what I sent to Shep and about 8 other programs on FOX. (notice the date)

    Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 5:42 PM
    To: Show -Fox Report

    I’m sad that FOX is participating in the media’s hush over Obama’s citizenship. And I’m really sad that I can never again trust in your network’s integrity and journalistic ethics. FOX News was the last vestige of
    a free press on the TV, so I’ll miss you as I turn to internet news sources.

    Even when – if? – you do start to cover this news, I can no longer believe you are reporting the facts. How sad…

    His REPLY?

    Subject: RE: So long…
    Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 19:12
    From: “Show -Fox Report”

    “This story has no merit.”

    Don’t expect them to cover the biggest story in our nation’s history with any truth or accuracy. I guess their network will still be good for watching live police chases in California or something equally unimportant.

  28. Off topic but noteworthy. Maybe already noticed by your guys.

    Notice the absence of God in Obama’s Speech?

    Quote “All me are equal”

    Conveniently left out the created part.


  29. Do you think perhaps there is anything on the Obama’s marriage certificate that might help? I wrote to Cook County, Chicago and asked if it’s a public record and here is what they replied:

    “Yes marriage is a public record. You may visit our website at for information on ordering marriage certificates from our office.”

    I don’t recall in which Chicago county they were married, do any of you? If so, simply replace the letters “cook” with the proper county in the website address above and request their marriage certificate (you will need the date).

    Let us know what it says.

  30. My bad

    “the God-given promise that all are equal”

    More of a socialist comment.


  31. To Otis,
    There is a little more to this, it is about National Security and divided loyalties, and being the Commander in Chief. The reason for the “Natural Born” clause it to insure that no one with divided loyalties is ever allowed to become President.
    Scroll to article 212 read through 217
    This law reference was published in the late 1750’s and was used by many nations and the Founding Fathers to write the Constitution. Natural Born was a common knowledge in the time the Constitution was written.
    There several others I will have to dig out, let me know if you would like to read more?
    So far 32 law suits have been filed across the country.

  32. Brenda,

    Shep is a slime ball.
    Also I don’t think that anyone in FOX is going to report anything.
    Hannity? Nope.

    After the election Shep had Nader for an interview.
    Nader said:
    I hope Obama is going to be Uncle Sam for all Americans and not Uncle Tom for big corporations.

    Of course Shep ignored the message and just went all over him because he said Uncle Tom.

    Uh, don’t mention race.
    I mean, Obama ran his campaign on race baiting.

    This double standard is the norm now.

    The message of Nader (whatever You think of him) was right.

  33. Janet – I’ve been asking myself the same question about the marriage certificate. Which then leads to the question, what are the names on the certificate, and does that have anything to do with why both of them no longer have active law licenses? Did they both use different names? Or go under more than one name?

  34. Weren’t they married at Trinity United Church (Wright)?

  35. I found this:
    “Michelle and Barack’s wedding ceremony was performed on October 3, 1992 by Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr. at Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago, Illinois. Some web sites list their wedding date as October 18, 1992.”

    Only two dates in question!
    Much better than three countries and fathers, as with his birth.

  36. The South,

    I realize you guys have done an exhaustive job trying to prove this. However, my angle is this…where are the allegations that natural born implies that both parents are citizens written before this issues with Obama came to be? I don’t recall ever reading that before this past election year. if you can produce a source written in 2007 or earlier that would go a long way in convincing me.

  37. Okay, one more.


    President Obama made a surprise visit to the White House press corps Thursday night, but got agitated when he was faced with a substantive question.

    Asked how he could reconcile a strict ban on lobbyists in his administration with a Deputy Defense Secretary nominee who lobbied for Raytheon, Obama interrupted with a knowing smile on his face.

    “Ahh, see,” he said, “I came down here to visit. See this is what happens. I can’t end up visiting with you guys and shaking hands if I’m going to get grilled every time I come down here.”

    Pressed further by the Politico reporter about his Pentagon nominee, William J. Lynn III, Obama turned more serious, putting his hand on the reporter’s shoulder and staring him in the eye.

    “Alright, come on” he said, with obvious irritation in his voice. “We will be having a press conference at which time you can feel free to [ask] questions. Right now, I just wanted to say hello and introduce myself to you guys – that’s all I was trying to do.”

    “This is worse than the Middle East,” he joked, alluding to the territorial claims staked on the cramped corridor. “Who’s sitting where and all that stuff.”

    He revealed that he had already gotten in two work outs since being sworn in Tuesday.

    “Turns out I have a little gym up there,” he said with a smile.

    Obama said he had watched press secretary Robert Gibbs debut briefing “in anticipation of some flop sweat. … I just want to thank you for not completely ripping up Gibbs,” Obama said.

    “I am very proud of him today. He got a fist bump from me.”


  38. JeffM,

    I just ordered a shirt. bkw

    Thanks Brenda!

  39. Otis,

    Here is your information:

    Pay particular attention to:

    1. Rep. Bingham commenting on Section 1992

    2. War of 1812 and how it pertains to dual citizenship

    3. Langdon Cheves, February 1814

    4. de Vattel’s LAW OF NATIONS (the holy grail of the Constitution) c. 1758

    There are some court cases of interest as well (they discuss NBC status):

    U.S. v Rhodes
    Perkins v Elg

    You can find info on these in the comments.

  40. Jacqlyn Smith

    Berlin—–Gibbs sucked…….stammered and stuttered like his “messiah”!! Obams is so full of Bulls@#%!!!!

  41. Could this be why he was adopted by complete strangers?

    Disaster Uranium: Democratic Presidential Candidates Backed by Nuclear Powerhouses
    By Jessica Lee
    February 24, 2008

    While Senators Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama continue to spar for the Democratic Party presidential nomination, a hidden conflict over uranium mining and radioactive waste dumping is simmering, pitting the two candidates, other prominent politicians and Wall Street financiers against many indigenous and non-native American communities.

    Tens of thousands of people across the continental United States and in Hawai’i still suffer the effects of previous uranium mining booms during the 1940s and the Cold War, and fears are growing over how a nuclear power renaissance will impact tribal lands.

    Tiokasin Ghosthorse, a member of the Lakota Nation, explains, “In western South Dakota, there is an unspoken nuclear Chernobyl. There are days when the sky is brown from the dust of uranium mining tailings in the air. This is cattle and wheat country. When the dust settles, no one knows they are being radiated.”

    Ghosthorse, also the host of “First Voices Indigenous Radio” on New York’s WBAI, speaks in a firm voice when he discusses the impact of uranium mining on his home in Cheyenne River Indian Reservation. “A few years, there were only 19 of us left from my 1973 high school graduating class of 70 or 80 people. Nine out of 10 of them had died of cancer.”

    To bring attention to the environmental threats and the destruction of sacred sites, hundreds of Native Americans and supporters began trekking from San Francisco to Washington, D.C., on Feb. 11. The five-month walk commemorates the 1978 Longest Walk that led to the defeat of 11 anti-Native American bills in Congress and passage of the American Indian Religious Freedom Act.

    “The Walk is a call of action to the people to wake up and realize that the continued exploitation of Mother Earth cannot go on,” said Ricardo Tapia, a national coordinator of the Longest Walk 2. “This walk is for people of all colors. We are concerned about the trees, water and the sprit of the land. These things are alive. To most non-Indians, these are just seen as resources.”

    ‘ The New York Times recently noted that in the case of New Mexico, where the nuclear power industry is seeking to restart uranium mining near a Dine (Navajo) reservation, “mining companies walked away from their cleanup responsibilities” of a thousand open mines after the Cold War ended. The Times stated “among the horrors” that resulted were “shifting mountains of uranium tailings; open mines leaching contaminated rain into drinking water tables; wind-blown radioactive dust; home construction from uranium mine slabs; and even the grim spectacle of children playing in radioactive swimming holes and ground pits.”


    Like many other commodities, from gold to oil to wheat, uranium’s price has risen because of speculation. As of 2003, processed uranium ore, known as yellowcake, was trading for $7 a pound. Last year, it hit $138. The dwindling of Cold War-era uranium supplies combined with anticipation that industrializing economies in China, India and Russia would turn to nuclear power, led hedge funds and other big investors to drive up the price of yellowcake and the stocks of uranium mining companies. It’s this paper wealth that has stoked mining interests around the world.

    The Las Vegas Sun noted on Feb. 10, “More than 1,000 new uranium mining claims have been staked on federal lands near the Grand Canyon during the past three years because of rising uranium prices.” According to the U.S. Department of Energy, uranium exploration and development drilling totaled 5,000 holes covering 2.7 million feet in 2006. It is estimated that at least 50 percent of uranium deposits are located on Native-owned lands.

    But to realize these vast profits, the uranium mining industry needs various governments to approve new mining operations and to revive the controversial and dangerous nuclear power industry. In Virginia, for example, which has a moratorium on uranium mining; the state Senate approved a bill commissioning a “study” on Feb. 13 to determine if it is safe to mine a site that contains the “largest unmined uranium deposit in the United States, worth an estimated $10 billion.”

    While the Bush administration is pushing for nuclear power’s revival, its future is not just in the hands of Republicans.

    Claiming the United States cannot meet its goal of reducing greenhouse gas emissions if nuclear power is not an option, Obama wants to spend $150 billion over the next 10 years to develop new “climate-friendly” energy sources. Clinton says the issue of nuclear waste storage can be overcome by American technological innovation.

    The major political factor driving nuclear power’s revival is global warming. “What the industry’s public relations are trying to do is find a bigger boogie man that is greater risk than building nuclear reactors,” said Jim Riccio, the nuclear policy analyst for Greenpeace. “If you are afraid of nuclear power, you need to come up with an alternative that is more frightening. That is where the industry has latched itself to the climate change debate, and it is trying to sell themselves as a solution.”


    The nuclear industry has helped bankroll the presidential campaigns of both Senators Obama and Clinton. Executives and employees of the Illinois-based Exelon have given Obama at least $221,517 – making Exelon Obama’s eighth largest contributor. Obama’s chief political strategist, David Axelrod, has also served as a consultant to Exelon.

    NRG Energy is betting on Clinton. In September, NRG filed an application with the Nuclear Regulatory Commission to open the first U.S. nuclear plan in more than 30 years. NRG Energy has given Clinton nearly $80,000 in campaign contributions. The company’s president and CEO, David Crane, is a ‘Hillraiser’ a Clinton backer who has raised at least $100,000. NRG Energy has also given $175 to The Clinton Global Initiative run by former President Bill Clinton.


    Left unsaid on the campaign trail is the tragic fallout. Uranium exploration and mining, nuclear testing and radioactive waste dumping began more than 60 years ago, largely on lands that Southwestern Native Americans were forced onto generations earlier. Not only did Native communities receive little in the way of royalties for the uranium extracted from their lands, health and safety precautions were essentially non-existent.

    As with people in South Dakota, Wyoming and Montana, Dine and Hopi communities in the Four Corner region (Arizona, Utah, Colorado and New Mexico) have suffered greatly from environmental contamination and widespread illness. These areas were deemed “National Sacrifice Areas” by the U.S. government lands determined “uninhabitable” due to the planned depletion of water resources by industry and widespread radioactive contamination.

    For the Native communities who are all too familiar with the dangerous consequences of being the nation that possesses thousands of nuclear weapons and relies on nearly 20 percent of its power from nuclear generation, this is a cry for environmental justice. And the Democratic leadership does not seem to care.

    “Not one of the presidential candidates has an energy policy that excludes exploitation of indigenous lands,” said Klee Benally, founder of Indigenous Action Media and a volunteer with the Save the Peaks Coalition.

    Ghosthorse agrees. “Hillary and Obama are not going to do anything about this. It is not who we elect, it is the system.” While the presidential primaries continue to hypnotize the nation, the Native American resistance walks on.

    “Politicians do not have the answers and we cannot rely on them to provide the answers in the context of a system that is built on the exploitation of our lands,” Benally said. “We do not just need political action, we need direct action in our communities because behind every environmental crisis is a social crisis.”

    “This is the low-intensity warfare against Native people all of the time,” Ghosthorse said.

    Mike Burke and A.K. Gupta contributed additional reporting.

    Local Native American youth join the Longest Walk 2 hikers in California Feb. 16. Hundreds of people are walking across the nation for the next five months to bring attention to indigenous religious freedom and global environmental protection. Photo courtesy of LONGESTWALK.ORG

  42. Otis – You really have to go back to the intent of the Framers to understand the idea behind Natural Born as opposed to just a citizen.

    Even though they themselves where citizens, they knew that because their parents were foreign born and had foreign allegiances that they themselves were not eligible. So they wrote the grandfather clause which made them eligible. At that time, being a young country , it was important to keep foreign influences out of the Presidency.

    The best way to describe what their concerns were is to put it this way. If the King and Queen of England were in the US on vacation and the queen were to give birth, then their child would be a US citizen by all definition. Now that child could go back to England and be raised British until he was 18 and then return here to maintain his US citizenship. Then the Prince could eventually run for President. If he won then we would have a President who was also a British heir to the throne. It’s a Stretch I know but that was the main reason for the Natural Born Citizen clause. To prevent a President from having dual loyalties. Which is what we have right now.

    Right now Obama is subject to blackmail. What happens if his Kenyan family is Kidnapped? What will he do? That’s just part of all of the troubles that will most likely rise out of this fraud.

  43. JeffM, pullover hoodie please. Freezing my arse off here.

  44. Guys —

    Just so you all can keep your history straight.

    Rahm Emanuel’s father Benjamim was ‘a simple soldier’ in the Irgun, the Israeli terrorist group.

    Obama made his first Foreign relations phone call to Abu Mazen, President of the Palestinian Authority: that is Fatah, Arafat’s old terrorist brigade.

    Abu Mazen wrote his doctoral thesis, denying the Holocaust took place during World War II.

    Arafat’s uncle who raised him was the ‘Grand Mufti’ of Jerusalem under the British mandate.

    This hyperlink is to the history of the British mandate in Palestine.

    Notice whom the Grand Mufti is talking with in the photo — yes, that’s Adolf Hitler. The Grand Mufti never disguised his strong political sympathies were with Adolf Hitler.

    BTW — Notable Jews in Chicago believe that Rahm Emanuel remains the top Israeli Mossad agent in the U.S. But now, he is Obama’s Chief of Staff in the White House.

    Can anyone point where there maybe a problem here with “Divided Loyalities?” Right here, right now, in the Oval Office!

    That is exactly the reason why New York Governor John Jay asked the Constitutional Convention to add the words ‘natural born Citizen’ to the qualifications for Commander in Chief. This kind of stituation we have now.

    The government is playing with fire!

  45. It might be helpful if I report something I reported last November .

    Bill Clinton appeared on the Canadian scene giving talks across this nation. I attended one of them.

    The theme of course was on the global economy and of it course it was very well attended. It was followed by questions by a former premiere of New Brunswick, and again the questions generally followed the theme, as well Hillary being appointed as SOS. There was consistency in the discussion until out of the blue the matter of American citizenship as it applies to the presidency came up. It felt very much like a planted question.

    I took notes so this is more or less what Bill said:

    Two hundred years ago when the Republic was created different conditions prevailed that affected the definition of the qualifications for the presidency.

    In light of the number of immigrants now residing in the U.S., it might be necessary to let someone who for example “who is 45 years old and who has resided 35 to 40 years, be allowed to govern”.

    He went on further to say that the Constitution will be amended.

    This is Bill Clinton warning those abroad (but not yet his own people) what is coming. It is an implicit acknowledgement of the current situation (and we all know they all know), but it also reveals what the game plan is.

    This is what Americans are facing and one way or another this matter of “natural born citizen” needs to be resolved. They know Obama is not, but are already putting in place legal changes. The onlyquestion now is how will Americans deal with this.

  46. zachjonesishome

    Good Morning. I heard you mentioned on the show several times. I mentioned it in my blog. Great discussion last night.

  47. It was a good discussion Zach.
    I tried to call in to no avail, but did chat.
    I have been asked again to host a radio show.
    It could happen.
    However, I will focus where my energies are most effective.
    Egos have no place in saving this country.

  48. Am I the only one that after listening to the Gibbs press conference, how much he talks in the same style of his boss-ending his statements with an up-lilt(if there is such a word)?

  49. Fernley Girl,

    Let me work on that hoodie request today.


  50. This is a dire situation posted on Plains:

    Closing of GITMO – Where Will All the Combatants Go?

    This is a question everyone should be demanding of this new “administration”.

    Based on what we’ve been told these possible terrorists in detention at the GITMO facility will most likely be absorbed into the U.S. Judicial System. There would be no other reason to ship these known combatants into the country.

    What next? Bail? Safe harbor?

    That being said, imagine the implications:

    1. Known terrorist never steps foot on U.S. Soil.
    2. U.S. Military captures terrorist for trial.
    3. Terrorist gets “imported” into the U.S.
    4. Technicality allows terrorist to be set free to roam about (i.e. bail, being granted citizen rights as a foreigner, etc.)
    5. Terrorist now disappears into the U.S. with no passport, no papers, no point of entry, and not one single tracing mechanism.

    What do people on here think about this possible, but most likely, scenario? Are we getting a little more concerned now?

    I know I am. It could be construed as treason. “Inviting” known enemies of the U.S. into the country for trial is like asking Bin Laden over for dinner.

  51. Stanley Ann Dunham

    From the British Nationality Act of 1948.

    Has anyone yet discovered whether this step was taken?

    Section 6.2.

    Citizenship by Marriage

    Women married to CUKCs had the right to register as CUKCs under section 6(2) of the 1948 Act.

    CUKC means “Citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies (CUKC),”

  52. Bob,

    Excellent question. If we give Stanley the benefit of the doubt and she prevented polygamy, a U.S. felony at the time, she would have most likely become a U.K. citizen after marriage to protect her newborn.

    The U.K. normally honored local customs in their colonies, so it would have been acceptible and hence not illegal.

    I’m willing to bet solid currency she naturalized. It’s the only way she could have kept her nose clean living in the U.S.

  53. galvinizing

    suggestion; before the obamanation hitlerites destroy these federation, or is it confederation, of various websites and interested parties: someone should get all of our e mail addresses and , when, the sites go down we will have someway of staying in touch and bringing this movement back on line. just a suggestion, because we all know where we are going with this.

  54. also, since obama is illegal and usurper, by default, and fact that the SC has not seen it viable to hear a case, yet. Then the SC is complicit to any attempt to remove OBAMA , by any means. And, per the Constitution, that attempt to remove OBAMA would not be a crime. Or would it?

  55. zachjonesishome

    FYI – I changed my tag line from the quote I had to:

    Food for Thought: Lawful orders are lawful orders and unlawful orders
    are unlawful! How can anyone serving as President who is not a
    “Natural Born Citizen” issue any lawful orders?

    Have a Great Day. I’ll be back later. Zach

  56. Otis;
    Read the constitution. Article II, Section 1.

    It is the only time the term “Natural Born Citizen” is used in the Constitution.

    The concept goes back many years before the Constitution was ratified, and can be found in the “Law of Nations”. Our Founders were well-acquainted with “The Law of Nations”.

    It has been defined in federal caselaw many times, as well as by the writers and promoters of the 14th Amendment which defines requirements for “Citizens” and “Naturalized Citizens”, and importantly, makes no mention of “Natural Born Citizens”, thus leaving the original Constitutional definition of “Natural Born Citizen” intact.


  57. da verg, et al (yes I am being a smartass using the et al).
    In case you did not catch Dean Haskins of Restore the Constitutional Republic on
    Plains radio last night. We have been discussing plans to unite websites and
    orgs throughout the country. There are many discussions going on on many fronts.
    Your point is taken. We do not always reveal what is going on for obvious reasons.

  58. Thanks for the update CW.

    Communications will be paramount. Telephone will most likely be the best way to communicate aside from online/email.

  59. JeffM

    Unfortunately phones can be tapped and emails hacked. It could get difficult.

  60. I heard the show last night and it was great.
    This movement reminds me of the movie “The Terminator” where the resistant groups had to go underground to protect their liberties. We must do the same. We must organize our group throughout the US. I agree with PlainsRadio, we need to unite. We must take back our Country. Strength comes from numbers and we need all the strength we can muster up to defeat Socialism in the US.
    No Presidents in the history of the US had signed so much Executive orders as the Usurper had on his first day in office. Obama had already sign executive order to repeal Reagan’s ban on funds sending overseas for abortion. So, baby killing was on his top list and we are next!!!!!!

  61. Remember the military strategy of redundant communications. Keep other sites going, too! Consolidation is important…but if/when something happens to the primary site, it’s important to immediately be able to pick up where the primary left off. Strategy is important.

    It’s the same logic for having both cell phones and landline phones. Things can happen to either.

  62. Did anyone in Nancy Pelosi’s district in CA write to her regarding BO’s Constitutional eligibility for POTUS? Did she respond? This is important.

  63. jbjd
    several people wrote to her, i wrote to her, i don’t live in her district. i used to, a long time ago, but i moved, couldn’t stand it.

    she never responded.

  64. i, and my religion is against abortion. Regardless of others feeling on this matter, i respect your views. I don’t believe in excercising my view upon other people upon this issue. However, when other people want to spend my money to further something i find immoral then I think I should have a say in the matter.

    today OBAMA signed this , to use my money, I don’t want my money to go to this sort of thing, what is my recourse? Especially, since many of us feel he is not legitimate. I guess this case could be made for anything he signs.

    Any ideas?

  65. jbjd

    Re: Pelosi, I did write to her just before the elections, imploring her to AT LEAST take a hard look at the facts and what was missing. Her response was you don’t reside in my district so it would be inappropriate for me to talk to you, please contact your elected representative. Then I wrote to her through her House Speaker website. No reply, not even a response from one of her troll workers.

    Simply pathetic.

  66. As was mentioned before, Mr. Usurper will most likely be signing upwards of 20 EO’s before the end of next month. That’s nearly half of the average number of OE’s signed by prior presidents in a year.

    That’s Mr. Usurper, and THAT’s the dictator way.

  67. venice,

    No discussions at that level of importance should be done doing anything else but meeting in private.

    Our framers used coded messages to indicate special instructions. I suggest we do the same.

  68. JeffM

    That’s good.

  69. I want to question which came first his registration for candidacy for President or his alleged adoption by the Redskins. The timing might be a consideration to explore. Might want to take a look at older treaties that are still in force. If his candidacy was first then it would seem that by law he would have to adhere to everything as it was when he registered. The adoption could be ruled as moot given this precedent.

  70. redneck sympathizer

    I like your t-shirt.elegant simplicity for bringing this into the psyche of the people.
    I also have a shirt that is more visual but rather cheeky.Madison juxtaposed to brownshirt obama.His image is stamped with USURPER.My daughter and I worked on it and posted last week. We will also forward any profit to support the ongoing litigation.

  71. In thinking about the alleged adoption it seems to me that if the adoption occurred after his formal registration ,and Obama had already campaigned in several states, the adoption could be viewed as a campaign strategy, (tool). Under such circumstances it would seem that given the office being sought,would be contrary to the Constitution. The Constitution is the only acceptable bluprint for a Presidential candidate. To further clarify my point, he cannot legally change his citizenship status either as a candidate ,or after becoming sworn in as POTUS.

  72. Isn’t Pelosi from somewhere around SanFrancisco? If she is then i would expect that sort of a response even on her own stationery. I suppose the same would apply to Harry Reid as well.

  73. I spent over a year aboard ship which was assigned to the old destroyer base in Long Beach during the Korean war. Hated every day of it. California just didn’t get it for this Indiana HICK.

  74. To return to the subject I recently learned that Stanley Anne D.Obama was enrolled in the Autumn 1961 Classes at University of Washington,and was present for classes in August 1961. I am wondering how she was two places at once ;(2680 miles). She was allegedly in Wawaii on the same date. Perhaps we have a Casey Anthony doing retroactive time travel.

  75. CW,

    That threat that you had from Politico or whoever it was, do you know what the mention of code red Alexa status is, or is that a bunch of baloney?


  76. Jeff
    1. I would think that it would be the most feasible to either build a special prison on Catalina Island in CA 2. Re-hab Alcatraz 3. Rehab Leavenworth I doubt that Leavenworth is set up to hold enemy combatants. It seems that they would be best accomodated at the Hague holding facilities. At least they would not be on our soil. I personally think that it was a serious mistake to allow enemy combatants to have US civil rights. The Geneva Conference spelled out all of this years ago, and I find myself really angered whenever I think about the US “do gooders” who think that up is down and black is white. They will tell you that the slimy killers are really nice guys just trying to express themselves.

  77. Somebody wrote that Bill Clinton said in a discussion it should be possible for a foreign born to become president, if he/she had lived her for 40+ years.
    Let’s say he is right.
    Still, Obama got elected under the constitutiopn as it is now, not as they want to chnge it.
    Has anybody seen Arnie when he opened for
    If Arnold Schwarzenegger had run, BO had no chance.
    It would have just been more obvious how boring and scripted he is. No Soul.
    My point is.
    Let’s say naturalized citizens should be allowed too, then change the law first and then live with the consequences.
    Also I think btw. if BO had run against another black candidate he would have been in trouble.
    Anyway, You cannot chnge the rules during the game.

  78. I believe it is Russian for code of the imbeciles (ha ha).
    Real answer: No and I don’t care.

  79. From MommaE blog radio:


    I just want to tell you that tonight’s show is on. There will be another SPECIAL GUEST, an Attorney that will give us some updates on what he is going to do to continue the fight against Obama. I am going to keep “his” name quite, so that no one can contact him and convince him not to appear on the show, as has happened before. This is being done so that those that want to see us fail can’t spread it to other sources that are working against us. He will give us what time he can tonight as he does have other commitments. I told him that we would be grateful for any amount of time he gave to us.

    All kinds of good things to talk about and it will be 90 minutes of hot topics, updates and fun. It should be a HOT, rocking show, as well as interesting. We will be discussing the things she would like to see happen for our Country, our Constitution and the swearing in of someone for President that is NOT eligible under Our Constitution to be President of the United States of America!

    Please post this on your web site, blogs or any blogs you are associated with or have access to and send to everyone in your address book. There will be another Fast Blast that will be sent 2 hours before the show!

    Link, schedule, call in number and times for the Show is below!

    Call In # 347-237-4870

    5:30 PM Pacific Time

    6:30 PM Mountain Time

    7:30 PM Central Time

    8:30 PM Eastern Time

    I hope to see you all there. There are 3 ways to listen to the show, they are as follows:

    1. When you get to the Show page if the show doesn’t immediately start playing for you,
    you can click on the radio on the right, minimize the page and listen while doing something else.

    2. You can enter the chat as a Guest and read what is being said while listening.

    3. You can register/log-in and chat while listening.

    The choice is yours.

    I hope to see you all there.


  80. Re: communications. Nothing controlled by the FCC or USPS.

  81. Has lawdawg weighed in on the Lightfoot case today?

  82. Been watching for lawdog all day…he’s been silenced or maybe this is good news?

  83. zachjonesishome

    Can I listen in a day or two? I’m eating out tonight.

  84. Ya’ll see the Globe Magazine….it’s worth purchasing!

  85. GLOBE:
    8 things Obama is hiding

    1 Birth Cert
    2 What is your real name
    3 Are you Muslim
    4 Why conceal Columbia records
    5 When did you stop using drugs
    6 Did you cheat on Michelle with a man and a woman
    7 How did you travel to Pakistan in 1981
    8 Did you have anything to do with the murder of Donald Young

    All these questions are covered in a four page Globe spread

  86. Dang…the Globe
    Fair and balanced…who would have thought?

  87. Kim and Sandy,

    I was just about to ask about Lawdawg

    I also noticed that the SCOTUS blog has not posted it’s usual “cases to watch at today’s conference” blurb.

  88. The Supreme Court will more than likely NOT announce anything today, and leave the surprise that they have denied the case for Monday.

    The Government is a runaway train at this point, and it’s getting close to a second Civil War.

    Obama and the left leaning Marxist/Communist DNC are trying with all their might to destroy the United States from the inside out. They “want” the US dollar to collapse! They want the borders to be over run with illegals to put such a strain on us and our economy that it eventually comes to total collapse.


    So we will turn to them for help. So they can implement their NWO and gain even more control over us as a nation.So they can introduce their new Amero currency to move us closer and closer to a one world Gov’t. with a One world monetary sytstem.

    I think we are extremely close to a second Civil War in this country with every new Executive Order he signs, and every new anti gun bill he introduces. It’s like he’s “intentionally” trying to destroy the United States of America.

  89. I spoke to Larry Sinclair today.
    The Globe articles may help him with book sales.

  90. The South,
    Unfortunately, I think you are right. We need to know how to proceed with the Grand Jury if SCOTUS denies all cases and if they are making the lower courts do the same.

  91. NEWSBREAK- I am watching the Rod Blagojevich press conference. You know what? I like him. He reminds me of a young Ronald Reagan and don’t forget he started out as a Democrat and was from Illinois too.

  92. Explosive Video Reich, Obamas economic advisor no “White Male Construction Workers”

  93. Ladyhawke // January 23, 2009 at 4:03 pm

    Kim and Sandy,

    I also noticed that the SCOTUS blog has not posted it’s usual “cases to watch at today’s conference” blurb.


    Hi Ladyhawke,

    Will you please give me the web link for the “SCOTUS blog”? Thanks in advance.

    This is the only site I have that’s keeping a record of the lawsuits, and it’s not updated either.

    Eligibility Lawsuits

  94. Here it is day 4 of Obama’s usurpation.

    Here it is day 4 of Obama’s usurpation. He’s giving executive orders out like jelly beans. Where is the injunction? Where is the military? Where are “WE The People” to stop this man from the illegal orders he is making? This is what is happening before the eyes of the world and not one living soul will stop him.

    According to Edwin Vieira, Jr. from Obama needs to stand down. . . .
    Fifth, as nothing but an usurper (if he becomes one), Obama will have no conceivable authority “to make Treaties”, or to “nominate, and * * * appoint Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, Judges of the Supreme Court, and all other Officers of the United States, whose Appointments are not * * * otherwise provided for [in the Constitution]” (Article II, Section 2, Clause 2). And therefore any “Treaties” or “nominat[ions], and * * * appoint[ments]” he purports to “make” will be void ab initio, no matter what the Senate does, because the Senate can neither authorize an usurper to take such actions in the first place, nor thereafter ratify them. One need not be a lawyer to foresee what further, perhaps irremediable, chaos must ensue if an usurper, even with “the Advice and Consent of the Senate”, unconstitutionally “appoint[s] * * * Judges of the Supreme Court” whose votes thereafter make up the majorities that wrongly decide critical “Cases” of constitutional law.
    Edwin Vieira, Jr.
    Time is of the essence. If—which will never happen—Obama is stopped how are all these jelly bean orders and damage the monster has done be undone!
    It’s over, America. The American Constitutional love affair is over.
    Usa patriots-shout

  95. Hi Citizen Wells,

    Just curious….why do my comments go into moderation? Other’s comments post after mine; which is still awaiting moderation. Is it my name? lol

  96. Hmm! re Lawdawg’s absence–
    I wonder if Justice Thomas was at court today? I posted earlier that his mother-in-law died yesterday.
    Wonder if Justice Thomas is Lawdawg?

  97. CW,

    Okay, my last comment posted, but the one @ 5:06 is still in moderation. (???)

  98. Obama to GOP: ‘I Won’

    Challenged by one Republican senator over the contents of the package, the new president, according to participants, replied: “I won.”

    The statement was prompted by Senate Minority Whip Jon Kyl of Arizona , who challenged the president and the Democratic leaders over the balance between the package’s spending and tax cuts, bringing up the traditional Republican notion that a tax credit for people who do not earn enough to pay income taxes is not a tax cut but a government check.

  99. Lurker.
    Long story. Has to do with anti moron protection (not you).

  100. LOL Okay, thanks CW.

  101. We were all morons once. LOL

  102. Someone said the SCOTUS orders were released. One case accepted but Lightfoot was not one of them. If the recent pattern holds we need to brace ourselves for another bummer Monday.

  103. Lurker // January 23, 2009 at 5:30 pm

    Obama to GOP: ‘I Won’

    Actually he meant to say, “I am the One”.

  104. I don’t know if this has been posted here yet.

    Obama Snubs Medal of Honor Recipients (Updated)


    Except this time.

    The president and first lady, for the first time in those ensuing 56 years, did not make an appearance at the Salute to Heroes Inaugural Ball. In attendance at the gala were 48 of the 99 living recipients of our nation’s highest honor. Of the 99 who are still with us, not even half are in any condition or possess the wherewithal to travel to such an event. And by the next inauguration, likely half of those won’t be with us.


  105. The link for Steve Marquis site is incorrect. It is plural:

  106. Hey Gang,

    Natural Born Citizen hoodies have been added:

  107. NOT SO FAST about SCOTUS!

    I have noticed that on Friday the 9th and 16th, there were some cases released for public notice, BUT also on following Monday if you read the SC case listing from the previous Friday, there were some additionals granted. The listing from last Monday was huge, about 19 pages. So do not let anyone tell you that no listing Friday means denied.

    Another day close to knowing The Truth about barry soetoro.

  108. Update from MommaE blog radio:


    I just want to tell you that tonight’s show is on and it will be a DOUBLE WHAMMY OF GUESTS AND THE LAST GUESTS WILL BE A SCOOP. There will be an Attorney that will give us some updates on what he is going to do to continue the fight against Obama.

    The last Guests will be the lead Plaintiff in the Kerchner v Obama case that was just filed on the 20th and his Attorney Mario Apuzzo!!

    I am going to keep the first Attorney’s name quite, so that no one can contact him and convince him not to appear on the show, as has happened before. This is being done so that those that want to see us fail can’t spread it to other sources that are working against us. He will give us what time he can tonight as he does have other commitments. I told him that we would be grateful for any amount of time he gave to us. I am releasing Mr. Kerchner and his Attorney’s names because no one can keep them off of the show no matter what they say!

    All kinds of good things to talk about and it will be 90 minutes of hot topics, updates and fun. It should be a HOT, rocking show, as well as interesting. We will be discussing the things she would like to see happen for our Country, our Constitution and the swearing in of someone for President that is NOT eligible under Our Constitution to be President of the United States of America!

    Please post this on your web site, blogs or any blogs you are associated with or have access to and send to everyone in your address book. There will be another Fast Blast that will be sent 2 hours before the show!

    Link, schedule, call in number and times for the Show is below!

    Call In # 347-237-4870

    5:30 PM Pacific Time

    6:30 PM Mountain Time

    7:30 PM Central Time

    8:30 PM Eastern Time

    I hope to see you all there. There are 3 ways to listen to the show, they are as follows:

    1. When you get to the Show page if the show doesn’t immediately start playing for you,
    you can click on the radio on the right, minimize the page and listen while doing something else.

    2. You can enter the chat as a Guest and read what is being said while listening.

    3. You can register/log-in and chat while listening.

    The choice is yours.

    I hope to see you all there.


  109. JeffM

    Unfortunately phones can be tapped and emails hacked. It could get difficult.

    (They’re not already??)

  110. CA Patriot – thanks… I needed that!

  111. redneck sympathizer

    If a lower court accepts case and rules on it,then ruling will stand unless the SCOTUS steps in right? Trying to imagine a patriot judge just GOING FOR IT if you will.

  112. Judy,

    You bet phones and emails can be “intercepted”. However, we have some things we can do with email, such as encryption. There are some military encryption schemas that will knock your socks off.

    At this rate we need to create some rules about what we discuss openly and what we don’t.

  113. The South // January 23, 2009 at 4:04 pm

    The Supreme Court will more than likely NOT announce anything today, and leave the surprise that they have denied the case for Monday.

    The Government is a runaway train at this point, and it’s getting close to a second Civil War.

    Obama and the left leaning Marxist/Communist DNC are trying with all their might to destroy the United States from the inside out. They “want” the US dollar to collapse! They want the borders to be over run with illegals to put such a strain on us and our economy that it eventually comes to total collapse.


    So we will turn to them for help. So they can implement their NWO and gain even more control over us as a nation.So they can introduce their new Amero currency to move us closer and closer to a one world Gov’t. with a One world monetary sytstem.

    I think we are extremely close to a second Civil War in this country with every new Executive Order he signs, and every new anti gun bill he introduces. It’s like he’s “intentionally” trying to destroy the United States of America.

    Post this over and over and over and over………..

    with an emphasis on ‘implement their NWO and gain even more control over us as a nation.’

    Government’s goal: To get the guns swapped for food when the families are hungry enough.

  114. Seriously can the so called Justices keep denying the citizens request? Who raised these people?

  115. yes pelosi is from somewhere around san francisco, i beleive her district is in san francisco. most people don’t believe that san fransicko is still part of usa.

    what else? Nuke power , like refining is soon to be a lost science in this nation. All the engineers and scientists have long retired or moved on. We don’t even have the material, the specific confidential basics to manufacture the key elements/components in this nation any more. Sad.

    With one of the best cases, Orly’s, on the brink, we need to start challenging these orders. Get 9-11 victims, and military more involved and up to date.

    Stop paying our taxes as protest? Federal ones that is? Start the new silent revolution against the usurption of our nation.

    I won?
    what did he win?????????

  116. If the SCOTUS has decided anything today, it is not reflected as a MISC on their website as yet.

    Where did that information come from?

  117. Yeah, I am not seeing anything on SCOTUS. about the cases discussed today. Could it be a good sign??????

  118. Reality is here for those of you who want to take off the rose colored glasses. The Supreme Court is not about justice, up holding and protecting the Constitution, or anything else that looks like American citizens’ rights are to be protected. The Supreme Court is about covering up, convoluting its articles, and making the innocenct look guilty. Not one–not one case filed against Obama will ever bear fruition. Each and every one will be denied, dismissed, buried, and demeaned.

    It takes time for reality to come forward. After living a life time always believing in the old ideas as to what the Supreme court meant to us, we just haven’t had time to emotionally and intellectually process the change that has taken place. Nothing as we knew it, is so now.

    Where are the marches nof the thousands with the big clear signs saying:
    Obama is not a natural born citizen.
    Obama is a usurper. Arrest Obama!
    The Supreme Court betrayed us.
    Here are the names of every Congressman and Senator who clearly demonstrated his ignorance and indifference about Constitutional law after we the public sent letters to them. Here are their names and here are the stupidities they revealed. . .
    Arrest the voters of the electoral college for treason.
    Arrest the 9 Supreme court judges for conspiracy, treason, and breach of fiduciary duty.
    Arrest every Senator and Congressmen for violation of his oath of office, breach of fiduciary duty.
    No politician is above the law. We’re going to force you out of office for betraying us.
    Sooner or later we will make you accountable.
    You didn’t get away with it! We know who you are.
    This is the last term you will ever serve by my vote.
    These and more should be on bill boards, buses, marching signs, television, radio, flyers, vidioes and letters sent to these turkys, and so.

    If the whore politicians insist upon forcing an illegal government down our throats, then we need to insist on making public knowledge we are aware of what they have done–whores, sluts, pigs, traitors that they are.

    Usa patriots shout

  119. venice,

    Nice! If usurpers can use it so can we. Remember, what’s good for the goose is good for the gander.

    It’s all about information control. When that control is lost all their control goes with it.

  120. Ms Orly’s was DENIED cert today with a vote of 9-0. My husband is one of Scalia’s clerks and has been right 100% of the time. The people who were granted cerft were published late this afternoon – of course she wasn’t on it. Her denial will be out Monday morning. If you’ve read her suit, you won’t be surprised. Whew…all I’ll say

  121. da verg // January 23, 2009 at 6:28 pm

    I won?
    what did he win?????????

    da verg,

    IMAO, I see it as an ignorant and arrogant Oblowhard message to the Senate saying “I’m in charge, and I’m going to be making the rules.” Intimidation comes to mind.

  122. Never mind, CW, about the Alexa thing. I found out by accident on the WayBackMachine in the FAQ section in looking up something. That was a strange way to find out Alexa, if it even matters.

    And to the rest, I know we’re getting extremely frustrated with all the lawsuits not going forward with the judicial system. All I can say is, it just s*cks.

  123. Kittycat77 @ 8:15

    And to the rest, I know we’re getting extremely frustrated with all the lawsuits not going forward with the judicial system.

    “All I can say is, it just s*cks.”



  124. Rachel, have you read my military Complaint?

    Let me know what you think. All comments are in moderation.

  125. Lurker,

    I don’t know a way to say it nicely, or maybe that was nicely. All I know is this, many Americans are so totally fed up, who knows what will happen! Many are just being ignored, etc., and this is a legit problem. IT IS NOT A CONSPIRACY THEORY! It is killing our country and our people. It’s just that there’s a lot of people in some kind of make-believe la-la land and are in a different mind-set. I think something must happen to even shake them out of it. Don’t ask me what! I don’t know, but our Creator knows and he can shake as he sees fit and then start sifting, which may be what he’s doing now and has been doing.

  126. is there any attorneys out there who would know how to proceed to take this nut ball out of office. he is so high on power there will be nothing left of this country. i can not stand this man he has done nothing for the state of illinois and his vote was is present. he had the nerve to unseal jack ryans divorce records to smear this mans campaign. he is a vile human being

  127. How was the SCOTUS vote 9-0 when Justice Thomas was most likely not there, considering the death of his mother in law?

  128. Therese Daniels, this heated rhetoric makes hearing your point virtually impossible.

    Just because some of the lawyers have worked very hard on the cases concerning BO’s Constitutional eligibility for POTUS does not mean those cases were well plead. Most of these cases were based on mandamus, a legal cause of action allowing petitioners to ask the Court – the judicial branch of government – to order state officials – the executive branch of government – to carry out a ministerial duty, that is, a duty spelled out in the law. But as I have stated for months, ad nauseum, no provision of any state or federal law requires any government official to vet the major political party candidate for POTUS as to Constitutional eligibility. So all of those cases that were denied at the lower court level were decided correctly. And all of the last-minute ‘hail Mary’ filings could not cure their infirmities. Direct your ire at the well-intentioned lawyers who bring these procedurally faulty cases and then incite the public – you – when they fail (‘We have no standing; we are like slaves!’).

    P.S. What state do you live in? I am working on something.

  129. I believe we are running out of legal options.

    Leo has a good point with the Federal Grand Jury, and i hope he is discussing it with Dr.E.Vieira.

    I’m sure as the sun comes up every morning that when/if we were to muster thousands of Patriots to serve them with papers, they would go as far as to use the police in Washington against us, to silence us or even try to arrest us (even though we have every legal right in the world to do so).

    I’ve got a real bad feeling about what this may possibly come too.

    I pray that ONE good judge out there somewhere in America will agree to hear just one case.

    He would become a National Hero, and would more than likely win a Congressional Medal of Honor!

  130. Rachel,

    Where were the cases you claim were granted cert published? There is no such order on the SCOTUS site.

    The only mention of anything happening today was on the SCOTUS blog, and that came at 1:30pm and not “late this afternoon.” That related to one case and not “cases.”

    Does your husband, and more importantly, Justice Scalia, know you are blogging this information? If you really are who you claim, I would think you would not refer to your husband’s honorable boss as “Scalia.”

  131. Rachel–are you Lawdawg?
    Is your husband Lawdawg?

    How is it legal for you to tell us what happened in the judges’ private conference? Are you possibly jeopardizing hubby’s job by reporting this to us?


  132. Sandy, I cannot believe you said that. I just got home from grocery shopping and, I swear, at the checkout, I seriously considering buying this myself. And I thought watching FOX was surreal (until I stopped watching when they, too, went in the tank for BO).

  133. Joyce Stangland


  134. The South, we have not begun to explore our legal options. Almost 100% of the cases brought were based on the same faulty legal cause of action.

  135. jbjd,

    I also recently returned from the market – but I bought it! It’s an amazingly good account of all that is hidden about Obama. Of course it was nothing that most of us do not already know.

    So why did I buy it? The Globe has featured the controversies surrounding Obama for three weeks in a row. This issue hit him the hardest. I figure if they see a jump in circulation, they will stay on it. Money talks.

    And remember, this is the tabloid that broke the Monica Lewinski blue dress story – forcing the MSM to finally cover it.

    Please go forth and purchase! (Wear a hat, scarf and dark glasses!)

  136. ” pray that ONE good judge out there somewhere in America will agree to hear just one case.

    He would become a National Hero, and would more than likely win a Congressional Medal of Honor!”

    Personally, how can there not be one good judge anywhere? I’m with you, and there as to be at least one, yet there’s probably more. How do we find them? I want to say Texas where I live, because there’s lots and lots of judges and some may be frowning upon BO not proving himself.

    So, how do we find out the judges? Do we depend on asking attorneys? There must be some answer and if there’s a judge in a large town or a small town that frowns upon BO, then we MUST seek that place.

  137. EVERYONE! We just bought the Globe for the first time in our lives today. Isn’t that something? It says about what we’ve all been discussing too.

  138. Rachel —

    I KNEW there was a very good source here, somewhere.

    Others —

    Treat such sources RIGHT!

    Preserve their vital confidences. And, never again PLAN STRATEGY with them online!

    Why? Because that is what compromises a very good source! STRATEGYY cannot be a Two-Way conversation.

    Opinions – fine!
    Complaints -fine!
    Emotions – fine!
    Objections – fine!
    Even ANGER at SCOTUS – fine!

    But strategy, plans, and such — those conversations need something other than a FORUM like this.

  139. Joyce, go ahead.

  140. Joyce Stangland

    Dear Bill, Please read this and try to understand that “WE THE PEOPLE” love this country and are not NUTCASES as some of the MSM HAS INDICATED.


    Remember when this economic crisis hit, and Congress let Bear Sterns go under, pushed a bunch of forced marriages between banks, etc.? Then they bailed out AIG, WHY???

    Among other things,



    WE THE PEOPLE ARE THE TAX PAYERS,… WE HAVE SET BACK AND LET CONGRESS DO WHAT THEY WANT,…. BELIEVING THAT THEY HAVE OUR BEST INTERST IN MIND. YOU YOURSELF HAVE CONFRONTED BARNEY FRANK! (for that i thank you!) barney frank, polosi, dodd, reid,…. and most of the remaining congress/men/women are just as corrupt. (would the position of senator be so important if all the perks didn’t go along with it?. . . WHY would anyone be willing to pay for a senate seat? answer: money and power)

    I have emailed you before with my concerns. All we want is to know a few things about him. Why hasn’t the MSM helped us? Have you been threathened? Something is wrong with this picture. “WE THE PEOPLE” HAVE A RIGHT TO KNOW A FEW THINGS ABOUT THIS GUY. WHO IS HE? WHERE DID HE COME FROM? DOES HE HAVE ANY DECENT PEOPLE THAT CAN SAY ANYTHING HONEST ABOUT HIM? IS HE ANTI -AMERICAN? WHERE IS HIS COLLEGE PAPERS,…. HOW DID HE GET TO PAY FOR HIS EDUCATION? WHO ARE HIS ASSOCIATIONS? (WE KNOW SOME,…. AND IT ISN’T PRETTY) actually it is dangerous to say the least!

    MY POINT IS THIS: LOOK AT WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THE WHITEHOUSE! why should all these dishonest people get cabinet seats in the administration? IT IS NOT A GOOD THING FOR THE FOLKS! PLEASE HELP US BILL!

    obama wouldn’t even go to the military ball on tuesday. MY GOD IN HEAVEN,….. that should have been the one and only,… if he could only go to one. the military vote didn’t get to be counted in the election. IS THAT RIGHT? I DON’T DON’T THINK SO.




    BILL, REMEMBER THE CULT ABOUT HILTER AND OTHER DICTATORS? obama has an evil conman way about him. he is able to promise everything,…. and give nothing. (remember the show: DIRTY ROTTEN SCOUNDRELS…….. ? OBAMA IS THAT KIND OF MAN! scary to say the least.

    take a look at all the executive orders he has cancelled of (Mr President Bush’s) and all the new dangerous ones he has signed, that will

    put our Nation in danger. Bill,….. this is serious stuff. take some time and read a few of the interesting things that have gotten to the SUPREME COURT AS LAWSUITS. PLEASE BILL, I AM BEGGING YOU! FOR AMERICA not for me!

    Joyce Stangland

    Bullhead City, AZ

  141. We are not waiting on Bill O’Reilly and crew. Fox has let us down.
    O’Reilly and the MSM are has beens and will pay for their role in
    promoting and not exposing the real Obama.

  142. Rachel–would you please tell us how many judges conferenced today and who they were? Thanks.

    Also–for others, please check out Dr. Orly’s blog:

  143. I have been wondering if everyone in the United States refused to pay anymore income tax until Obama posted a certified copy of his vault COLB. I would think that there would not be jails enough to hold everyone. In addition it would probably break the Federal Government(If that is what we are still required to call it).What a shame;all of Obama’s “good intentions” right out the window. All the people who were expecting a complete living for free would have to go to work. Boy what a mess refusing to pay taxes would create. I can’t help it but think that all of those really nice people that Obama was going to support might get a little upset. They might even get really POd. Then what!

  144. Faith! thats whats needed. I was flying last week the day of the miracle plane water landing. before we took off at 1030am the plane safety video about life vests and pull this cord and etc. i was like no one survies water crashes, you just need to be ready with god when its your time. Well of course at 430 pm i put on the radio and hear about the plane safely landing in new york and no one killed or hardly injured. Faith is all you need!

  145. zachjonesishome

    Just checking in. What’s up?

  146. oldsalt76,

    It would be a blessing, if everyone would come together and agree “to not pay taxes” until he showed his birth certificate, and the Supreme court decided to hear at least one case.

    It’s just a matter of time (i believe) until the truth finally comes out, and Obama and the DNC are brought up on fraud and corruption charges.

    Eventually, the Supreme court will have enough heat on them from We the People, and the rest of the world, that they will have to make a move!

  147. Zach, you’re up?

  148. zachjonesishome

    Not long. Just got back. Friends are leaving so I have to go. I’m tired. Heck it’s 10:00. Oh My. Good night. I put a new post up. linked with restore the constitutionn. Zach

  149. Zach is a good man.
    Good night.

  150. RacheRachel

    my understanding is that only 7 of 9 judges vote on conference issues? So 9-0 is not possible.

    Did you husband say any reasons? Orly’s suit had some very good points.

  151. Withholding income tax is a good idea. I have read that the bill was never ratified so it isn’t legal anyway. Plus it doesn’t go to help our country, it goes right to the banksters to pay the interest so they can issue us debt notes-our “money” isn’t backed by anything. Our country was always supposed to make its own money. The federal reserve and the government are wringing us dry so we’ll be so poor we have to accept the NWO.
    We can’t get disillusioned and give up. We have to keep trying. I mean, the alternative is too unbearable to contemplate.

  152. Hi JDJB

    My guest for this Sunday evening’s program on my talkradio program had to go into the hospital due to pneumonia. I wish her a succesful recovery. Could you take her place? If not you, would one of you bright bloggers do so?

    I wonder how long and where about Venice lives in Venice since I lived, worked, and played in Venice for over 25 years. In those days I spent a lot of time drawing pictures and painting. Would Venice also consider filling in thisSunday night? My usual topics are Obama, his qualifications, the Suprem Court, and what are our choices.

    JBJD what is bother me these days is watching TV news castors broadcasting as if everything about Obama’s presidency is legal and perfect while they are suppressing the facts we are now facing our greatest national security because the world knows what our msm refuses to admit. Obama is a usurper–plain and simple.

    We the people have been demeaned, ignored, denied and invalidated for merely asking a simple request–Obama, where are your credentials. We need to know.

    It may be hard for many to believe, but if Obama were not a usurper in the Whitehouse, I would have no issue with him. I have no personal dislike of him. He seems to me he would be one of those very personable “bad guys” every one likes at the party.

    The issue of Obama being a natural born citizen is bigger than Obama. It is continuation of America as a Republic. It is part of the heart and brains of the foundation of America. If Jesus Christ himself did not qualify under our Constitution, I would just as readily and passionately challenge God.

  153. We have the right to petition and the right to a Grand Jury to fight against a government that no longer serves its people. We have a right to have a citizen militia. We must do all we can to remain free to exercise our rights!!!

  154. oldsalt76 // January 23, 2009 at 10:39 pm

    I have been wondering if everyone in the United States refused to pay anymore income tax until Obama posted a certified copy of his vault COLB….
    You should look into – there are many people who will tell you that federal income taxes are unconstitutional.

    For a real eye opener, read this post and also the links at the bottom. Note the dates are from 2005 and if you didn’t know that, you’d think it was written yesterday.

  155. Obama is doing well so far diggin’ a hole for himself.
    To journalists he says ” Oh, come on” if they ask real questions.
    Do the opposition he says “I won”

    This all doesn’t sound like he’s making friends in DC.

    A commenter on Orly’s blog stated that the justice system reminds him/her of China.
    There it was also impossible to get things through, except if the big wigs were fighting each other.

    We cannot bring them up against each other, but guess what?
    Obama can, and will!
    He is already at work.

    Just be patient.

  156. OK how’s this simplification for the bots (getting desperate):

    US Gametes and Dirt
    Dirt + US sperm and egg

    They “get it” but the Bush hatred filter, just like Hopenosis, lets them deny reality…but it won’t last.

    “Kansas is one of the few states that allow citizens to petition to empanel a grand jury.”


    In the petition, which contains 7,857 signatures, the group asks the Sedgwick County District Court to convene a grand jury and appoint an independent prosecutor to investigate Tiller (Hegeman, AP/Wichita Eagle, 9/6).

    According to the AP/Eagle, the number of signatures submitted by Kansans for Life is nearly three times the number needed to convene a grand jury (Hegeman, AP/Wichita Eagle, 9/6).

  159. Kim, perhaps those Kansans can rally a grand jury inspired by Obama’s $2BILLION to the abortion industry executive order, as somehow tackling that he is an invalid POTUS?
    It will come to an “issue’ which really furthers this because the natural born issue is abstract or nebulous to many people. Once they learn their dollars are now going to go to kill foreign babies, that puts a whole new fact on Obama’s ineligibility.

  160. Jacqlyn Smith

    I say let’s get the grand jury thing going!!! How many signatures do we need to go to the SCOTUS?????

  161. Jacqlyn Smith

    Pro-Life people already know their tax dollars are going to abortions!!! I am originally from Kansas. My mom, sister and brother still live there>

  162. “When Washington took the oath they did not have a Bible when they were about to begin. Someone had run down the street several blocks to find one. Evidently the chief justice of New York’s Supreme Court had admonished Washington and everyone present that an oath that was not sworn on the Bible would lack legitimacy. When Washington was finished, adding the phrase, “So help me God,” he bent down and kissed the Bible.”

  163. Lurker,

    Sorry I missed your question earlier. The link to the SCOTUS blog is:

    And to everyone else,

    It is interesting that Rachel never posted again, after all the interesting questions were posed about her news from Justice Scalia.

  164. Canadian4Hillary

    Have you seen Larry Sinclair’s blog,
    The Globe article, 8 Shocking Secrets about Obama. All the questions, we have been asking….click on the pics to read the article.

  165. Anybody find the quote from Obama telling Republican Senators NOT to listen to Rush Limbaugh ????

  166. Drudge has the Obama / Limbaugh story as its lead headline.
    Here it the story link:

    O also stretches his hand across the aisle to Eric Cantor and reminds him “I won”. I hope this wakes up the loyal opposition and perhaps they will revisit the idea of vetting this man.

    Hannity and Rush also whined recently on Hannity’s show that no one vetted this man. Don’t either of these guys have a staff or an investigator to find the facts? Why didn’t they vet the guy? I guess they are only entertainers not reporters.

  167. from Alisyn’s Blog (Fox & Friends), this morning:

    “”President Obama is warning Republicans not to listen to Rush Limbaugh anymore. What’s he afraid will happen? Does he think exposure to Rush causes a dangerous condition? What might that be?””

  168. Not paying taxes would only get a lot of us arrested, even if the taxes are Constitutionally illegal. The IRS are a nasty lot.

    Here is a better idea that is perfectly legal.

    If everyone of us withdrew all our money from every bank savings, CD, IRA and 401K, the already stressed banks would start to collapse like a house of cards. Before doing this, we should all convert as much cash to gold and silver bullion as possible.

    Then we all stop purchasing stuff. Only buy absolute essentials. No clothes, toys, candy, cars, jewelry, presents, etc… All companies would start going bankrupt, especially those already in bad shape, which is most.

    This would drive the USA into a great depression from which 0bama would be helpless to do anything about. It would absolutely destroy his presidency.

    Then we let it be known we will reverse it only when he admits he is not NBC and new elections are scheduled.

    I know this is severe, but what price are we willing to pay? At least this is peaceful and legal.

  169. mrje – read #23


    1. You have to believe the AIDS virus is spread by lack of Federal funding.

    2. You have to believe that the school system that can’t teach a fourth grader how to read is some how the best qualified to teach those same children all about sex.

    3. You have to believe that guns, in the hands of law abiding Americans, are more of a threat than U.S. nuclear weapons technology in the hands of Chinese communists.

    4. You have to believe there was no art before Federal funding.

    5. You have to believe that global temperatures are less affected by cyclical, documented changes in the earth’s climate, and more affected by Americans driving SUVs.

    6. You have to believe that gender roles are artificial, but being homosexual is natural.

    7. You have to be against capital punishment but support abortion on demand.

    8. You have to believe that business creates oppression and governments create prosperity.

    9. You have to believe that hunters don’t care about nature, but loony activists from Seattle do.

    10. You have to believe that self-esteem is more important than actually doing something to earn it.

    11. You have to believe that the U.S. Military, not evil and tyrannical regimes, start wars.

    12. You have to believe the NRA is bad because it supports certain parts of the Constitution, while the ACLU is good because it supports certain parts of the Constitution.

    13. You have to believe that taxes are too low, but ATM fees are too high.

    14. You have to believe that Margaret Sanger and Gloria Steinem are more important to American history than Thomas Jefferson, General Robert E. Lee, or Thomas Edison.

    15. You have to believe that standardized tests are racist, but racial quotas and set-asides are not.

    16. You have to believe Hillary Clinton is all about “progress” and not power. She just wants to help us out of the archaic system of governing that we have been subjected to since our founding.

    17. You have to believe that the only reason socialism hasn’t worked anywhere it’s been tried, is because the right people haven’t been in charge. (I’ve got news for you. It has never worked because the RIGHT people have been in charge.)

    18. You have to believe Republicans telling the truth belong in jail, but a cheat, liar and sex offender belongs in the White House and you would vote him back in there in a New York Minute (if you could).

    19. You have to believe that homosexual parades displaying drag, transvestites, and bestiality should be constitutionally protected, and manger scenes at Christmas should be illegal.

    20. You have to believe that illegal Democrat Party funding by the Chinese is somehow in the best interest of the United States.

    21. You have to believe that the vociferous minorities who protest against prayer and saluting the flag in school have far more rights than the majority who believe in God and country, and want these values instilled in our young children.

    22. You have to believe in MOB RULE and not RULING THE MOB (The Republican way).

    23. You must not listen to Rush Limbaugh.

    24 Trade Unions and Trial Lawyers are our strength and power.

    25 The Main Stream Media and Hollywood are our propagandists.

    26- FEMINISTS and GAYS are the men of our party.

    27- The Terri Schiavo case proves we and a two-timing husband have more power than GOD and 2 loving parents.





    30 – Remember what our Uncle Joe Stalin said-”It’s not who votes that counts, it’s who counts the votes”.



    LIFE AND WE(The Elitists -ie-


    32 You have to swear to the : THE DEVIL’S CODE




    THIS WAS THE OATH OF A FIGHTER PILOT. Keep forwarding and add more



    PSSS -PASS THIS ON TO 1000 FRIENDS or 1000 times to 1 ENEMY

  170. Sonof1776,

    That would only work if you had millions of supporters. You don’t have that.



  172. Citizen Wells, what are the specific laws and or rules to make a change in Constitutional Law or rule? Can Congress do this in secret or does any possible change’ s have to be made public before it’s changed? I wonder about this as the cases get stronger and also include our military, it’s possible Congress will try to change it to protect their own A-s. I deeply feel one of the Law suits are going to succeed. I ask this because of the statements Bill Clinton made pertaining to changes would be made to the Constitution.

  173. the last thing we want to do is withdraw our money from the banking system, and futher the nationalization and socialization of that economic sector.

    i believe not paying taxes , to the count of millions of us, will send a much stronger message to the feds and congress. They can’t come after a million people, and it cuts off their revenue stream and stream of income. This applies to businesses too, to stop paying employee federal taxes,etc.

  174. Blood and dirt.

    How can we get the NBC discussion finished and actually find an answer to the question? Can we leave O out of the discussion and just try to get our best and brightest pinned down to define it in such a way that even elementary school children can understand?

    Can we write and ask every official we can find what it takes to be a NBC? Why must we sue to get a definition of something that is in our Constitution? This should be basic and defined. We should all be in agreement. Everyone should be able to understand without looking at case law or US Codes. The founders understood without existing case law, codes, or additions to the Constitution.

    Has Mike Ritze in the new Oklahoma proof of citizenship bill written in a definition of NBC?

    How can someone in a SOS office , in Oklahoma, or anywhere declare someone a NBC if we do not have a definition that is clearly known and agreed upon?

    As Americans we should demand to have this issued clearly defined for us and applied equally.

    Most people on all these blogs are waiting for someone of authority to define the term of NBC. What are we waiting for? I have no authority but am feeling foxy today so I will declare a definition.

    To be a NBC one must be born on US soil and have both parents be US Citizens. Blood and Dirt. All other combinations are suspect and can only be Citizens. I am not a lawyer and I should not have to be one to know the definition of NBC. Blood and dirt. It is short and sweet, simple and easy.

    Am I wrong? Tell me why? Can’t we get the SCOTUS to impart their knowledge on what are the qualifications needed to be a NBC without a court case? Do the SCOTUS judges speak and answer questions from citizens without lawsuits? On an issue so fundamental why are they silent?

    WAKE UP AMERICA. Since you won’t be bothered to find out the facts for yourself I will tell you. BLOOD AND DIRT!

  175. Otis,

    We have millions of supporters. Most are merely observers right now. Things are starting to pull together and our cause is getting more unified.

    These movements take time. And once they do, you are going to see some interesting things take place.

  176. Congress can enact Federal Laws but cannot amend the Constitution without
    states ratification.

  177. based on rachel’s comment, i guess the next step would be to sue the SC itself, just like the SOS, they swore an oath (correct me if i am wrong) to uphold the constitution. What is THEIR evidence that OBAMA is eligible?

    also, they should be questioned in regard to meeting with a plaintiff behind closed doors in a pending case. I believe that the BERG case is the only case which specifically lists OBAMA as defendant, again unless i am mistaken, and all the other cases list state SOS’s as defendants. So unless the BERG case was dismissed, it is highly unusual for a judge, or judges, to meet behind closed doors. At least one judge, ALito, seems to realize the inpropriety of this.

    What do you all thing on this subject?

  178. da verg

    I don’t agree. All of our taxes barely pay the interest on the national debt. Cutting that off only means the treasury will issue more notes and the Fed will print more funny money.

    There is a movement that claims you can sucessfully evade taxes and not get in trouble. If someone would research that and find out if it is for real, I would be happy to not pay taxes. I just don’t think it would be effctive.

    But why not try it and see, if we only knew how.

  179. Citizen Wells, thanks for the answer, now would be the time to start rallys in each state to keep them from voting to ratify any amendments pertaining to a natural born citizen.

  180. the whole tax issue, is to offer a defense to get to the bottom of the eligibilty issue…not get the US further in debt. I was responding to the OP who wanted to take our money of the bank. You rightly pointed out the difference. Let me repeat it, taking money out of the banking system does nothing to further expose OBAMA’s eligibility issue.

    I agree with you on that one. however, it would provide a good defense to subpeona all of OBama’s records if you make a case that he, as head of the treasury, with his new executive orders to sponser abortion and other things specifically againts one’s religion, is a violation of religious rights and furthermore he doesn’t have the executive power to make an order because he’s illegit. So in defense of the latter, you would ask for his records. But alas, we already know he’s not natural born because he has basically admitted that his father is not a US citizen. But all efforts to bring forth this information to the voting public was muted.
    Is that a constitutional problem?? or slick manuevering within the law to dupe the people and do an end round around the constitution?
    I say it’s the latter, OBAma had lawsuits against him during the campaign, and he refused to address the issue.

  181. Joy
    I agree we need to start rallies in states. However, the Democratically controlled states like California and NY will not hear it. The focus should be in the Southern and western states (e.g. Montana, Wyoming, Utah, Nebraska, Kansas, Texas (wah? we neva heard of dis issua befoe ! According to Orly!!…sorry, I tawk funny like Bush. Ugh! I hate people like that. And you know I personally heard people say things like that. yes!), Mississippi, Georgia, South Carolina. Those are the states , and few others I left out which IMHO should pass eligibilty legislation. Oh yeah, Oklahoma and Tennesee.

    What you all think?

  182. Rachel,

    Dr. Orly Taitz, Esq would like for you to call her at

    She asked me to post this for her.

  183. Otis,
    It will work and it is working. This is part of the strategy of passive, legal resistance that we began following when it became apparent back in Oct that the MSM was going to anoint Obama, and no court was going to assist the citizens of this great nation to find the truth.

    You must remember that the banks are highly leveraged because of the fractal banking system they operate under. It is really nothing more than a giant Ponzi scheme. For every $1.00 that a bank has on deposit, they then “lend” 90 cents, allegedly keeping 10 cents “in reserve”. So, you borrow the 90 cents and deposit it into the bank. They then lend 90% of the borrowed 90 cents you deposited…and so on.
    It doesn’t take much for the house of cards they have built to come crashing down.

    The government doesn’t rely on the collection of income taxes anyways. It has openly admitted the only reason to collect income tax is for social policy — ie: to bend us to their will. That’s it. The real source of revenue is the interest on debt and the devaluation of the dollar (inflation) a hidden and far more dangerous tax. Were you aware that during the campaign, the “economic crisis” was used as a ploy to devalue the dollar by increasing the money supply by 70%?

    A good primer for some of this is Griffin’s book,
    The Creature from Jekyll Island, a Second Look at the Federal Reserve. Some good videos can be found on Youtube by Peter Schiff, an economist who is Ron Paul’s economic advisor, and Prof Badarnik (sp?).

    The first strategy is to take your money out of the big banks that participate in the Federal Reserve System. You can join a credit union, or start one yourself in your community (just contact the NCUA people in DC). Money deposited into credit unions is not part of the Fed Reserve system, and its control is managed by the shareholders — ie every member who has joined and made a deposit. Credit Unions are set up as non profit, so “profits” must be returned to the membership, and/or services and fees reduced.

    The second key item is to reduce debt. The Federal Reserve Monster feeds on debt. Take away debt and it will wither and die. The government can not coerce to take debt, nor can it coerce to live beyond your means, or purchase consumer goods. Most of the people in this resistance are either paying off their mortgages (if they can) or paying them down. Paying off all credit card debt is a given and not taking on anymore, save for basic revolving credit that you pay off in full at the end of each month — like a real credit card as was set up in the beginning. Do not carry balances.

    Thirdly, reduce consumer spending and practice checkbook democracy. We have put off any major purchases, as have others who have joined.

    Fourth, use your checkbook as a tool for your own plan to change behavior. We were disgusted at how Sarah Palin was treated in the press, and contacted the major advertisers in these publications. The least satisfactory answers came from Coke and Pepsi. We do not buy Coke or Pepsi products now. At first, I though this was going to be problematic, but it’s not.
    We bought our son a Homemade Rootbeer kit, and the kids have been making homemade sodas and love it. Their friends are doing the same. They also now make pizza at home from scratch instead of ordering out.

    The fourth thing we did was change our withholding to maximize our deduction and minimize withholding. This is legal. We looked at the last three years of income tax we paid, divided it by 12, and adjusted our withholding to reflect what we actually end up paying, rather than “loaning” the government money. It has freed up a significant amount of money each month, which we are using to purchase silver and gold (including liberty dollars).

    We were fortunate enough to have sold a rental property in 2005 and I had planned on using those funds to start a business. Instead, we used that money to pay off our mortgage. So, now there is no revenue (interest income to report or income generated by business investment), no employees or no jobs (in fact, down a job since I am now “unemployed”) and our stress level has gone down. I refuse to work my guts out if the plan is to “redistribute” my sweat equity. When the federal government decides to change its priorities, I will change mine.

    We have held bi-monthly meetings to discuss what we can do. Our strategy is having results. The local government here, which is very bloated, is now for the first time, making spending cuts, which it refused to do. Sales tax revenues are well off, and they know they can’t make them up, and resistance to any tax increase is high.

    It won’t take much on a national level to force the policy changes we, rather than “they” want. Obama and the Democrats can’t force their socialization of the country along if productivity goes down and people refuse to take on debt.

    They can’t force you to take on debt. They can’t force you to consume. And so on.

    If every family did the above to the best of their ability, you can bet it would have a far reaching effect.

  184. Jeff M

    I’m drawn to your comments because the tax resistance thing has been on my mind a lot. First for the reason of defiance and much more now because Obama is taking steps to spend our taxes to promote abortion.
    I was thrilled to be among the 100’s of thousands of young and old show up in DC on the 22nd. My point is that I see potential here. We need to bring different groups together against this common foe.
    It would involve some sacrifice.

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