Monthly Archives: April 2008

Obama down low, Obama gay sex, Obama rumor in Chicago restaurant, Larry Sinclair

A post on the Larry Sinclair blog several days ago mentioned a post on savage politics about a Chicago restaurant owner that had heard rumors for years that Barack Obama is gay.  Someone claiming to be the restaurant owner has just posted a clarification on Sinclair’s blog. Here is the post:

“Some guy said he used to own a gay restaurant in Chicago and that everybody knew Obama was on the down low and, no, he would not post the name of the restaurant publically because…um…well he wouldn’t but he WOULD provide the owner of the site with the name for veracity. Hm. The odd thing. No one ever asked for the name”

I noticed in one of the above compendium posts that Paul, aka HBee, on his website misrepresented my comments on savagepolitics.com, the only site I’ve seen fit to post on regarding this Sinclair-Obama matter. I’d like to set the record straight:

First, my comment at savagepolitics.com:

“Frankly, I decided against voting for Obama a fair while back, long before hearing about Larry Sinclair and his allegations. Obama didn’t make a splash in the state legislature, and his record as a US senator has been underwhelming at best. But… I used to be co-owner and chef of a Chicago-area restaurant frequented by gays (closed in 2003), and during that time I heard from a number of different gay male sources that Obama was quite much on the down-low. This has been an open “secret” in certain sections of gay Chicagoland for quite some time, apparently. I’m sure that, with a bit of stirring, the pot would boil over, and the weight of additional “whistle”blowers’ stories would add much credence to Sinclair’s claims. I’d like to encourage those who have had encounters with Obama to come forward… this man wants to become president, and it’s high time his pattern of deception, personal and political, be exposed.”

Nowhere did I identify myself as a man (I’m not), and nowhere did I say it was a gay restaurant (it wasn’t). It was a rather artsy gourmet-eclectic restaurant that drew a very diverse, if well-heeled, clientele… including a fair number of gay men. When Paul demanded that I give out my personal information and the name of the restaurant, I said that I’d be glad to do that, to the owner of savagepolitics.com, with his guarantee of confidentiality. I don’t mind being vetted at all… but I’m not going to set myself up for the personal attacks that Paul and others (including some of Sinclair’s supporters) have been making. At no point did I express any support for Sinclair… my point in posting at all was to indicate that some posters were incorrect in saying that there have never been any Chicago-area rumors regarding Obama’s sexual proclivities. I first heard such remarks probably in early 2001, and continued to hear such remarks until I closed the restaurant in 2003 — I’d estimate that I heard variations on the theme perhaps fifteen to twenty times, and from disparate, apparently unrelated people. In no way am I supporting Sinclair’s claims… I have no idea as to whether or not his story is true. And I certainly had no intention of posting anywhere except at savagepolitics.com, until I discovered that Paul/HBee had beeen fudging the truth about my comments and about me. I’m now posting here, on Sinclair’s blog, because this is where I learned of Paul’s misstatements concerning my comments and me, not because I’m one of Sinclair’s supporters… it simply seems that readers of Paul’s site are also viewing here, and this is the logical place to get the truth out.

Again, I stand by my original claims, and again, I’m willing to be vetted by the owner of savagepolitics.com, given a guarantee of confidentiality. What I won’t do is offer my personal information to someone who can’t even get the details of a very simple post correct, and who clearly has no qualms about distorting information and committing very personal attacks. Frankly, vetting me at all seems ludicrous and smacks of desperation — I have no smoking gun, I have no knowledge whatsoever of Sinclair and his claims. All I do know is that, in the Chicago area, at least, there have indeed been long-standing rumors concerning Obama’s sexual proclivities. But if Paul/HBee wants me to be vetted, as I stated before, I have no problems with that — it will simply be done only by the owner of savagepolitics.com, and only with his guarantee of complete confidentiality.

ADDED BY LARRY:I personally would perfer you provide that directly to my Attorney Montgomery Sibley. If you would be so kind, as that would be greatly appreciated.
Delenn
Sunday, April 13, 2008

Read more about Larry Sinclair and the controversy surrounding Barack Obama and his alleged drug use and gay lifestyle here:

http://larrysinclair0926.wordpress.com/2008/04/13/obama-pr-attorney-andres-w-lopez-are-you-part-of-internet-smear-campaign/
 

Obama new allegations, Illinois FOIA violations, Citizen Wells charges, Illinois Attorney General, Bar Association, US Senate censure

Whereas:

Barack Obama has been a licensed attorney in the state of
Illinois since the early nineties and was a associate attorney
with Miner, Barnhill and Galland from 1993 to 2002.

Barack Obama also taught constitutional law part-time at the University of Chicago Law School from 1993 until his election to the U.S. Senate in 2004.

Barack Obama was a member of the Illinois Senate from 1997 to 2004.

The Illinois Freedom of Information Act
pro-disclosure statute was originally enacted on July 1, 1984.

The following is the position of the state of Illinois as stated
by the Illinois Attorney General:

“It is the public policy of this State that public bodies exist to aid in the conduct of the people’s business and that the people have a right to be informed as to the conduct of their business.”

“Attorney General Lisa Madigan believes that an open, honest and accountable government, the cornerstone of a democracy, can only be achieved through the free and open exchange of information between government and its citizens. Both the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) and the Open Meetings Act (OMA) endeavor to open the workings of government to the public, shed light on government actions and, in the process, strengthen our democracy. Similarly, the newly enacted government ethics laws are intended to increase government accountability. The Office of the Attorney General is committed to ensuring compliance with these laws and increasing awareness by both the public and public officials of their rights and obligations under them.”

Barack Obama has violated the letter of the law
and spirit of the Illinois FOIA.

Obama refused to supply information on one occasion when he
stated:

In a Tribune interview Thursday, the Illinois Democrat said he had no intention of sharing any of the documents he might still have in his possession.”

“The problem is whatever remaining documents I have are inevitably incomplete. And then the questions going to be, where’s this or where’s that. Once I start heading down that road, then it puts me in a position that could end up being misleading. I don’t want to mislead people. I don’t know the extent of the records that I have as a state senator.”
 
Obama has also either ignored requests for his records or given
evasive answers:

The Chicago Tribune has reported that it “requested documents from his time in Springfield and never received a response.”

In an interview with Tim Russert:

“MR. RUSSERT:  You talked about Senator Clinton having records released from the Clinton Library regarding her experience as first lady, and yet when you were asked about, “What about eight years in the state senate of Illinois,” you said, “I don’t know.” Where, where are the—where are your records?

SEN. OBAMA:  Tim, we did not keep those records.  I…

MR. RUSSERT:  Is your schedule available anywhere?  Are—the records exist?

SEN. OBAMA:  I—Tim, I kept my own schedule.  I didn’t have a scheduler.

MR. RUSSERT:  Senator Durbin, your colleague, publishes his schedule each day.  Would you do that?

SEN. OBAMA:  Well, you know, these days I have a public presidential schedule that I think everybody has access to.”
It is obvious that Barack Obama has violated the Illinois
FOIA Law by his failure to produce records that he has and has
violated the spirit of the law and policies of the State of
Illinois by his cavalier, evasive and irresponsible conduct.

It is self evident that the following should occur and I hereby
formally request the following:

A) That an investigation into the record keeping and compliance
with Illinois State Law by Barack Obama be initiated by the
Attorney General of the State of Illinois.

B) That the activities of Barack Obama in regard to the above and
any other federal and state laws be reviewed by the Illinois
State Bar Association.

C) That the aforementioned activities of Barack Obama be
investigated and reviewed in the United States Senate for possible
censure proceedings.
ILLINOIS FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT
The following is taken from the A GUIDE TO THE ILLINOIS FREEDOM
OF INFORMATION ACT:

“The Freedom of Information Act is the principal Illinois law governing the inspection of public records. It is a pro-disclosure statute originally enacted on July 1, 1984. This important open-government law is grounded in the principle that the public should be able to access public records and information about the workings of their government.

Illinois courts have long recognized that “good policy requires liberality in the right to examine public records.” Weinstein v. Rosenbloom, 59 Ill. 2d 475, 482 (1974); see also Copley Press Inc. v. City of Springfield, 143 Ill. App. 3d 370 (4th Dist. 1986); Warden v. Byrne, 102 Ill. App. 3d 501, 505 (1st Dist. 1981); People ex. rel. Gibson v. Peller, 34 Ill. App. 2d 372, 374 (1st
Dist. 1962). The courts have also recognized a common law duty to disclose public records, qualified only by a balancing of the public’s right to know against individual privacy rights and governmental interests. Lopez v. Fitzgerald, 53 Ill. App. 3d 164, 167 (1st Dist. 1977), aff’d 76 Ill.
2d 107. According to the court in People ex rel. Gibson v. Peller, 34 Ill. App. 2d 372, 374 (1st Dist. 1962), the common law right to inspect records also carries with it a right to reproduce or copy public records:”
“Under the Freedom of Information Act, public records are presumed to be open and accessible. Illinois Education Association v. Illinois State Board of Education, 204 Ill. 2d 456 (2003). The principal mandate of the Act is found in subsection 3(a), which provides that “[e]ach public body shall make available to any person for inspection or copying all public
records.” The remainder of the Act implements this requirement.”
“The Act requires all “public bodies” to make their public records available for inspection. According to subsection 2(a) of the Act, the term “public body” includes any legislative, executive, administrative, or advisory bodies of the State, State universities and colleges, counties, townships, cities, villages, incorporated towns, school districts and all other
municipal corporations, boards, bureaus, committees, or commissions of this State, and any subsidiary bodies of those public bodies, including but not limited to committees and subcommittees which are supported in whole or in part by tax revenue, or which expend tax revenue, and also School Finance Authorities created under Article 1E of the School Code.”
“It is the policy of the State, as enunciated in the Act, that all persons are entitled to “full and complete information regarding the affairs of government and the official acts and policies of those who represent them.” The Illinois Supreme Court has repeatedly embraced the
philosophy that public records are presumed to be open and accessible.”
“Subsection 2(c) of the Act defines the term “public records” to include all records, reports, forms, writings, letters, memoranda, books, papers, maps, photographs, microfilms, cards, tapes, recordings, electronic data processing records, recorded information and all other
documentary information having been prepared, or having been or being used, received, possessed or under the control of any public body.”
“Section 3 requires public bodies to make public records available “to any person.” A “person” is defined in subsection 2(b) as “any individual, corporation, partnership, firm, organization or association, acting individually or as a group.””
“Are office telephone records of members of a public body public records?
Yes. Telephone records of a member of a public body would be considered a
public record for purposes of the Act. Certain exemptions may exist that permit a withholding of these records per section 7 of the Act.”
“Are e-mails of members of a public body public records?
Yes. E-mail records of a member of a public body would be considered a public record for purposes of the Act. Certain exemptions may exist that permit a withholding of these records per section 7 of the Act.”
The Illinois FOIA act and manual can be viewed here:

http://www.illinoisattorneygeneral.gov/government/FOIA_guide.pdf
The following exerpt is from “FOIA and technology–When will
they converge?” By David Silverman, Joliet.
“Illinois has enacted comparable state laws that include “electronic records” within the definition of state government records.” “For purposes of the Local Records Act, “officer” is broadly defined as “any elected or appointed official of a court, county, municipal corporation or political subdivision.”22 Arguably, even e-mails received or transmitted from an elected or appointed official’s home computer are governed by the Local Records Act depending upon their subject matter. While these “home e-mails” may not be subject to disclosure under FOIA because they are not in the possession or control of the public body, they may very well be subject to the Local Records Act.”
Additional Barack Obama remarks about his records:

“I have no idea. I mean [muffled on recording]. I really don’t. Again, I did not have at my disposal. I wasn’t preparing for the Obama state senatorial library.”
“We did not keep those records.”
“Nobody has requested specific documents.”
“I have no idea. I mean [muffled on recording]. I really don’t. Again, I did not have at my disposal. I wasn’t preparing for the Obama state senatorial library.”
“An Obama spokesman, Ben LaBolt, last week declined to say where  Obama’s records from his years in the Illinois State Senate are located. There is no law mandating the state to archive the records. The records from Obama’s office — if he kept them — would potentially show appointments with lobbyists, policy memos, meetings, etc.”
“Well, let’s be clear.  In the state senate, every single piece of information, every document related to state government was kept by the state of Illinois and has been disclosed and is available and has been gone through with a fine-toothed comb by news outlets in Illinois. The, the stuff that I did not keep has to do with, for example, my schedule.  I didn’t have a schedule.  I was a state senator.  I wasn’t intending to have the Barack Obama State Senate Library.  I didn’t have 50 or 500 people to, to help me archive these issues.  So…”
 

 

 

April 10, 2008, April 11, 2008 polls, polling data, Obama, Clinton, McCain, Obama slipping, Associated Press-Ipsos national poll, AOL poll

Barack Obama has lost his 10 point lead over John McCain in a presidential matchup. Obama and McCain are in a statistical tie in a Associated Press-Ipsos national poll taken Thursday, April 10, 2008. Obama dropped 10 points among women from February to April. Clinton and Obama basically maintained their prior positions against each other.

The results from a unscientific poll taken  on AOL, Friday, April 11, 2008 at 9:00 EDST are as follows:

Who do you think will win the Democratic nomination?
Barack Obama 63%
Hillary Clinton 37%

Larry Sinclair, Obama Campaign, lies, attacks, allegations, Female Law Student, complaint, Judge Kennedy

Larry Sinclair has alleged an encounter with Barack Obama
between November 3 and November 8, 1999. Sinclair alleges
that he and Obama used drugs in a limousine and had another
drug encounter.Larry Sinclair has been repeatedly attacked
for making these allegations and has stated that the personal
attacks have come from “blind” Obama supporters and bloggers
associated with the Obama Campaign. One of the attackers,
referred to as Female Law Student and Concerned Citizen,
attacks Larry personally and tries to destroy his credibility
with purported facts. I have received numerous personal
attacks and attempts at discrediting my posts. All I have
done is ask questions. I notified Larry Of the comments
from Female Law Student. Here is his response:

ADDED BY LARRY:Thank you, I find it comical that the Pacer system is available to anyone who pays for its services, furthermore this ALLEGED law student is from the University of Michigan, I believe it to be the individual who posts as “Concerned Citizen” and it is just comical that these people try to say that Judge Kennedy’s ORDER is a fake, and that no motion was ever filed, when it was, and these are to be our future legal representatives? It is all these students who will die for Obama, and for what, so he can take their loan and grant money to send me letters thanking me for writing him yet not address my request for his records? I do not even waste my time thinking about so called law students who can’t give there names, but wasn’t Axelrods drunken woman fondling son supposed to be studying law at the U of Michigan?

Response from Female Law Student:

Yeah, I guess I am a joke. Well at least a will be a rich joke who decided to believe the next president of the United States. Also, my point in stating that Larry Sinclair was not on the schedule was not to state that the order was fake, but to show that once again Larry was the only person stating his claim. The anonymous bloggers now have to deal with Larry’s claims because he got nowhere in a court of law against Senator Obama. So I guess I will leave this blog now and I have renewed hope in the fact that I am a joke. Goodbye Larry, it was nice spending the day chatting with you. I have exams to prepare for so that I can begin to make money the good old way of working for it.

ADDED BY LARRY:Thank you Mr/Ms Axelrod, I have already stated Obama and Axelrod are going to try the same thing you state here, but there is one problem with that sweetheart, he cannot even think of trying to come out now and say he has records showing him to be somewhere else after claiming to every media outlet for almost a year he cannot produce any records not even personal ones because he didn’t keep them. Just because your precious Obama says something does not make it true, and baby has that been proven over and over again by his own lips.

Response by hope’s audacity:

 am finding it amazing the way that the “law students” that have attacked Mr. Sincliar, his ethics, and his credibility, are probably violating the ethics of their law school by using their LexisNexis access on anythi ng that does not pertain to their educational requirements. I don’t see research on Mr. Sinclair is being a part of that. Lexis Nexis is available to many people in many different professions, but I do know, having attended law school, that one agrees not to use the service for personal reasons or for internship work outside of the law school.

Female law student– better check the policies you agreed to when you started at your top law school.

Read more about Larry Sinclair, Barack Obama and bloggers trying
to discredit Larry at:

http://larrysinclair0926.wordpress.com/


Now read the following dialogue between me and Female Law Student
from my blog. The responses I have been getting from Obama
supporters and Obama campaign workers are one of the reasons
I believe that Obama is hiding something. At the bottom is a
copy of the court document signed recently by Judge Kennedy.
Larry sent me the copy yesterday.

My experience with the Female Law Student:

Female Law Student // April 9, 2008 at 6:39 pm (edit)

Citizen Wells, as a law student I can tell you the reason why the MSM is not picking the story up (and trust me every news network has its own legal team) is because they probably have researched the story and have found nothing credible. As far as where Senator Obama was on November 4, 1999 … The fact that he was not present at work means he was probably NOT EVEN IN CHICAGO OR THE STATE!!!!!!OR MAYBE HOME SICK AND TAKING CARE OF HIS CHILD WHO WAS ONE YEAR OLD AT THE TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now that I am calm again, when people miss work it is usually because they are either on vacation or home sick, NOT OUT HAVING GAY SEX WITH MENTAL PEOPLE!@!@!@

  • Female Law Student // April 9, 2008 at 6:47 pm (edit)

    And another thing, it is so disingenuous for you to act as if all the pieces of the puzzle and falling together to show that Larry Sinclair maybe telling the truth. That is bull and you know it. Anyone who has worked a day in their life knows the reasons people miss work and for you to suggest that Senator Obama missing work on the day that Sinclair “claims” that they had one of their “encounters” is so irresponsible and unbalanced that you really should stop. As a highly educated individual I am insulted by your posts and as a member of the legal community I am insulted by Sinclairs accusations and those who support his nonsense that has no legal foundation. I wish someone would accuse you of something and then see how it feels. Get a life and some education will ya!

  • citizenwells // April 9, 2008 at 7:57 pm (edit)

    Emotional, alleged law student.
    Have you prepared a motion?
    Have you filed a motion?
    Have you opposed a licensed attorney in court?
    Have you won against a licensed attorney in court?
    I have.
    Do you know the meaning of the words alleged and allegations?

  • citizenwells // April 9, 2008 at 8:00 pm (edit)

    Maybe Obama was at home on November 4 1999.
    That should be easy to prove.
    Show us the records.

  • Female Law Student // April 9, 2008 at 8:21 pm (edit)

    First of all I am not an alleged law student. I am a law student at one of the top universities in the country. As far as the motions are concerned go to the US district court for the district of columbia and look at the calendar and see if you see any motion hearings for Larry Sinclair’s “motion on the calendar or assigned to Kennedy. After you do your research then give me a call. Another thing, as a law student I have access to Lexis Nexis. Lexis is a search engine of all, ALLLLLLLL, cases filed in the ENTIRE COUNTRY. I did a search under “larry sinclair” and “lawrence sinclair” and NOTHING, NOTHING, NOTHING came up. You see my dear, there are people who have access to information that you as common people do not. AND MAYBE THIS IS WHY THE NEWS OUTLETS ARE NOT CARRYING THIS STORY. They probably have access to Lexis also.

  • citizenwells // April 9, 2008 at 8:44 pm (edit)

    “Common people”
    Well, you certainly have the arrogance to be a
    scumbag attorney.
    Regarding the MSM.
    I assume you recall the many questions from the likes of Tim Russert, The Chicago Tribune, etc
    regarding Obama’s records when he was serving
    in the Illinois Senate. He was also asked about
    his schedule outside of the senate. He gave, perhaps, the most evasive, suspect answers I have ever heard. He sounded like a criminal.
    The more people like you react to my questions in an emotional manner with personal attacks, the more convinced I am that Obama is hiding something.

  • Female Law Student // April 9, 2008 at 9:46 pm (edit)

    I apologize if I came across as arrogant, that was not my attempt. Poor choice of words, “common people”. What I am trying to get across is that you and everyone who chooses to believe Larry Sinclair’s “story” to be true are doing something that you cannot fully appreciate. Imagine for a minute that someone who doesn’t like you or just wants to get publicity decides to tell a story about something you did in your past that you cannot defend because it is your words against the person. Imagine that the persons story cuts against the core of who you are and what you have worked so hard to achieve. Imagine that even if you could go to a court of law and win that the win doesn’t matter because the bad publicity has caused people to second guess you and then you lose your job or some other status in public because of this allegation. Imagine that the person makes these claims and you were home sick at the time. Imagine that you have no proof to show that you were home sick. No matter what your political affiliations are, we should demand that Larry Sinclair offer up his so called “proof” before we convict Senator Obama on the web. This goes against everything this country’s wonderful judicial system is built on . One is innocent before proven to be guilty. I hope that something like this doesn’t happen to you.

  • Female Law Student // April 9, 2008 at 10:47 pm (edit)

    Anyone can file a case. If I wanted to I can file a case against you tomorrow filled with allegations. I don’t have to offer up not one single shred of evidence to support my allegations. That is where is motion for summary judgment would come it. If Senator Obama had airline tickets proving that he and his family were in Hawaii, at a motion for summary judgment that would end the case and that’s it. However, Senator Obama is in a very sticky place. If he responds to Larry Sinclair, then the MSM will be all over the story and in this country once it is on the news it will stick. And between the time he files his motion for summary judgment and the time the court actually hears the arguments and rules, the primary would be over and he would have lost because everyone would have convicted him in the media. Forget about how his wife and family would feel about this person making this allegations against Senator Obama. This is why Larry Sinclair is on the web, using the web to convict Senator Obama. Please don’t fall for it.

  • citizenwells // April 9, 2008 at 10:49 pm (edit)

    Thanks for getting back.
    I have been consistent in my wording.
    I have always referred to Larry Sinclair’s claims
    as allegations.
    I have a strong business background and have worked with and been around attornies and accountants all of my adult life.
    My first job was with a top accounting firm.
    I understand records and record keeping.
    A recent example that comes to mind is the opinion of 2 major law firms and their recommendation regarding the length of time
    for real estate professionals in NC to keep records. Most of the minimum legal requirements are 3 years. These 2 prominent law firms are recommending 10 and 12 years.
    I was in business for myself almost half of my former life career spanning over 30 years. I kept appointment books and mileage records and I still have some from 1993 and probably older.
    There are too may red flags about Obama’s past and responses. Obama has not been forthright in responding to requests for his records.
    As I have repeatedly stated, I hope that the allegations made about him are false.

  • Female Law Student // April 9, 2008 at 10:59 pm (edit)

    Okay, so I worked for six years before coming to law school. Every year once I was there for three years, I dumped everything that was older than two years. Now you are talking about a young male Illinois Senator who didn’t have a secretary. That is a fact. If I had to guess, I would imagine that his schedule keeping was sloppy and he probably didn’t think it was important to keep after all he wasn’t the president or something. So can you just try to imagine that the Senator is probably telling the truth that he may have just dumped daily schedules once he became a US Senator. When I left my job for to come to law school that is exactly what I did. I dumped all my schedules and paperwork that was not necessary for someone who would be taking over my job. Why can you not understand that. Why does it have to be something sinister and shady. My god, is that where we are in this country! We always have to assume the worse. I dump my schedules all the time and this is a dude. He ain’t caring about schedules that is what a secretary is for and he did not have one. Cut the man some slack.

  • citizenwells // April 9, 2008 at 10:59 pm (edit)

    I understand and appreciate the fact that Obama
    is in an awkward position. He put himself in that position. If he had been more cooperative and more proactive in providing records about his activities during the span of time when he was in the Illinois Senate, the allegations would never have grown in importance and mystique.
    What I mean is a resonable accounting for his life, in the senate and away from the senate. He was not in the senate on November 4 1999. There should be a record of his activities. That is only one day out of many. Forget the Sinclair allegations for a moment. What was Obama doing the rest of the time?
    Obama has just as many credibility issues as Sinclair. He has also chosen to associate with many questionable personalities including criminals.

  • Female Law Student // April 9, 2008 at 11:05 pm (edit)

    Okay so I am what one call a pretty decent person. I found a ring on the ground once and turned it in to the lost and found for my neighborhood. So my sister got married and my brother in law and I are good friends and I helped him start his own plumbing business. Turns out that my brother in law got arrested for cocaine use. True story. I am not lying. Do you think that I am questionable because I did business with my brother in law, a criminal. Is the business that I helped him create a criminal enterprise because of his drug use. Or is it that Senator Obama did legal transactions with someone who turned out to have a criminal side to him. Let’s not think the worst of the Senator.

  • citizenwells // April 9, 2008 at 11:06 pm (edit)

    Point:
    A. When I was his age I kept records.
    B. He was an experienced attorney.
    C. I am not running for president.
    D. He had some political aspirations.
    E. There should be a record or recollection of missing the important first day after the summer break.
    F. My opinion: if he didn’t keep records he was
    incompetent or if he disposed of them he was incompetent.

  • citizenwells // April 9, 2008 at 11:06 pm (edit)

    I am out of town and using dial up.
    Back later.

  • citizenwells // April 9, 2008 at 11:22 pm (edit)

    As you know, the degree of scrutiny applied and documentation necessary, depends on the job being applied for. Obama is applying for the job of President of the US.
    Point of law: Accessory before, during and after the fact.
    Guilt by association: at the very least social stigma. Criminal background checks go into many details. If there is a hint of mispropriety, an applicant can be dismissed from further consideration.
    Regarding your situation: you are not running for president.

  • Female Law Student // April 9, 2008 at 11:47 pm (edit)

    Citizen Wells, good luck. Honestly, we are coming from to different points of view. I choose to by default believe in the good of Senator Obama. I choose to believe that Larry Sinclair, whose case against Senator Obama was unequivocally dismissed in the Minnesota district court (go and look it up in Pacer), is seeking publicity. I choose to believe that a judge seeing all the evidence that Larry and his lawyer brought forward believed that no reasonable person on a jury could find in his favor. That is the judicial standard for a case to be dismissed so early. I choose to believe that Senator Obama will be a great President. Now its your time to choose. I truly hope you will choose not to believe the worst about Senator Obama.

  • citizenwells // April 10, 2008 at 12:17 am (edit)

    I seek the truth.
    All of the candidates must be held to a high standard.
    I have many concerns about Obama. These concerns have come about from reading factual data from a broad variety of sources. Some allegations gain credence in the context of known facts and unanswered questions.
    One of my darker skinned friends phrased it well a few weeks ago. “We really don’t know Obama.”
    Best wishes.

  • P Multani, Paramjit Singh Multani, Larry Sinclair, Barack Obama, November 4 1999, records, Obama not in senate

    To read the limo driver story questions and answers between
    Citizen Wells and Larry Sinclair, click here:

    https://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2008/07/21/limo-driver-multani-larry-sinclair-five-star-limousine-service-chicago-drugs-sex-obama-down-low-citizen-wells-blog-sinclair-news-conference/

     

     

    ** Update ** (see below)

    Why am I spending time researching and posting about an allegation made by Larry Sinclair about encounters he said he had with Barack Obama between November 3 to November 8 1999. Sinclair alleges several encounters with Obama in a limousine and elsewhere. Obama was not present for the Illinois Senate on November 4, 1999. Obama has been extremely evasive and uncooperative when asked to supply official or personal records to prove his activities and whereabouts.

    When I have asked simple questions about Obama’s whereabouts on November 4 1999 and Obama’s records for the rest of his senate career, I have been attacked by Obama supporters. Larry Sinclair has been viciously attacked, yet no one can verify Obama’s whereabouts. The Obama campaign runs on the philosophy of diversions and non compliance. The attitude of Obama and his supporters leads me to believe Obama is hiding something. So many attacks and lies were told about Mr. Sinclair that he has filed a complaint in Washington DC District Court.

    Sinclair has stated in the past that he helped illegal aliens. He also stated that the name of the limo driver is P Multani. An illegal alien by the name of Paramjit Singh Multani was in this country illegally and a hearing was set for him in Chicago in 2000. This is near the time of the alleged encounter between Larry Sinclair and Barack Obama. Some one commented on this blog several days ago and pointed out that a Paramjit Singh Multani is a licensed taxi driver in Maryland. They provided a link to the site. Does anyone out there have any more information on this?

    Name:Mr. Paramjit Singh Multani
    Badge#:10475
    Exp. Date:01/31/2009
    Association:Checker Cab Association, Incorporated

    http://webapp.psc.state.md.us/Intranet/Transport/TaxicabDriver.cfm?var=M

     ** Update **

    I have gotten a clarification from Larry Sinclair. Below are my questions to Larry followed by his response:

    “Thought you should know I did not state the above was the limo drivers name. That is an assumption that internet warriors for Obama made and claimed.

    Thank you,

    Larry Sinclair”

    Hi Larry.
    I am not trying to jeopardize your position.
    Can you confirm or deny what this commenter on your blog
    posted on Mar 20, 8:14 PM. It was posted by ravin kaur.

    “When you were in Florida, you help him, Paramjit Singh Multani, come to the States? Yes? He arrested and ordered deported but did not show? Later he and wife try to get citizenship but her I-130 revoked cause his to fail and again order for him to deport out of Chicago? Final order 2000 Yes? He work for Limo service: was it for Nemcovic or Nastev?”

    Citizen Wells

    “ADDED BY LARRY:I believe I included a comment that this was an example of people putting other peoples names out there with no facts to back it up. I can state that no I did not help this individual enter the US nor did I ever state he was my limo driver or that he worked for five star. I will tell you flat out this is not the driver.”

    Visit Larry Sinclair’s blog:

    http://larrysinclair0926.wordpress.com/

     

    Obama records, Obama senate records, Obama personal records, Larry Sinclair, November 4 1999, subpoena

    What is Obama hiding? What was Obama doing on November 4, 1999? What was Obama doing when he was not attending Illinois Senate sessions?

    Obama claims that he either did not have records or that they remain with the official senate records. Barack Obama was not present for the senate session on November 4, 1999. Obama must have had his own appointment book or other personal records. Obama must have kept records for tax purposes. Here are some of the responses Obama has given when asked to supply records of his activities:

    “I have no idea. I mean [muffled on recording]. I really don’t. Again, I did not have at my disposal. I wasn’t preparing for the Obama state senatorial library.”
     
    “The problem is whatever remaining documents I have are inevitably incomplete. And then the questions going to be, where’s this or where’s that. Once I start heading down that road, then it puts me in a position that could end up being misleading. I don’t want to mislead people. I don’t know the extent of the records that I have as a state senator.”
     
    “And so, you know, what I think, what I think, is not, doesn’t make sense is to say, to able to take credit for whatever Clinton Administration successes that she wants, and then selectively distance herself from any Clinton Administration failures, and not have some sort of public record that allows people to get a sense of that. Now, my sense is that this is information that, if they wanted to accelerate the process, so that it was available before this election, they could get it out there.”
    “We have just gone through one of the most secretive administrations in our history, and not releasing, I think, these records at the same time, Hillary, as you’re making the claim that this is the basis for your experience, I think, is a problem.”
    “We did not keep those records.”
    “The stuff that I did not keep has to do with, for example, my schedule. I didn’t have a schedule. I was a state senator. I wasn’t intending to have the Barack Obama State Senate Library. I didn’t have 50 or 500 people to, to help me archive these issues.”
     
    “Nobody has requested specific documents.”
    “I don’t know.” Where, where are the—where are your records? (My note – This is the response I get from many Obama supporters.)

    “We had one district director. I had one staff person, so, you know, we didn’t have some elaborate sort of system. I didn’t at my disposal millions of dollars and potentially multiple staff people to conduct an archive. Now keep in mind, it is apples and oranges. First of all, I’m not the one who has made this an issue. We saw during the debate, Senator Clinton was asked about it and the suggestion was somehow they’ve done all they could. And my simple point was, I don’t think there is some smoking gun in these archives or something, or some damning evidence. The only point that I’ve made is that, you know, Senator Clinton continues to base her claim on experience, in part, in substantial part, on her role as first lady, because if her, you know, experience was just based on her tenure as an elected official, it’s thinner than mine. So, I think it’s fair for people to ask, you know, what exactly was she doing, if that’s a substantial claim that she is making. So, I’m not interested in playing a game of gotcha, where I think there is evidence of something. I’m assuming most of this stuff is pretty mundane, you know, stuff. But what we do know is that she was involved in health care. Based on the questions you just asked me, or [New York Times reporter Jeff] Zeleny just asked me today, there’s this sense of, well, yeah, I was in charge of health care, but the fact that it didn’t work out, wasn’t my fault. That, we’ve at least got a public record that she was involved. From that point forward, we really have no idea what she was involved in. And so, you know, what I think, what I think, is not, doesn’t make sense is to say, to able to take credit for whatever Clinton Administration successes that she wants, and then selectively distance herself from any Clinton Administration failures, and not have some sort of public record that allows people to get a sense of that. Now, my sense is that this is information that, if they wanted to accelerate the process, so that it was available before this election, they could get it out there.”

    Any rational objective person reading Obama’s responses to being asked about his records has got to see a red flag.

    Couple Obama’s evasive posture with the lies he has told, his hypocrisy and suspect associations, his being absent from the Illinois Senate on November 4, 1999 and Larry Sinclair’s allegations of a drug and sex encounter between November 3 to November 8, 1999, One has to demand some straight answers.

    Larry Sinclair has some credibility issues.

    Barack Obama has some credibility issues.

    Larry sinclair has been attacked personally for the allegations he made. I have been attacked personally for asking simple questions. The more Larry is attacked and the more I am attacked, the more I am convinced that Obama is hiding something.

    Larry Sinclair filed a complaint in District Court of Washington DC. Larry’s complaint states that multiple lies have been told about him. Recently, Judge Kennedy approved the subpoenas that Larry’s side had requested. Here is a copy of the judge’s approval:

     

    November 4 1999, Obama records, Obama not in senate November 4, 1999, Russert, Lynn Sweet, Chicago Tribune, truth about Obama

    We need to know the truth about Barack Obama. We need to know where Obama was on November 4, 1999. We need to know where Obama was and what he was doing during his term in the Illinois Senate. When I first read the allegations of Larry Sinclair, I was very skeptical. I am still somewhat skeptical. However, I went to the records of the Illinois Senate for November 4, 1999 and Barack Obama was not present. Sinclair alleges that he had 2 encounters with Obama from November 3 to November 8 1999. The first encounter was allegedly in a rented limo and involved drugs and gay sex. This alone was not a red flag for me but when you couple this information with Obama’s known association with criminals, with racists and hate mongers and his failure to provide his records while in the Illinois Senate, there is a legitimate need to get straight answers from Obama.

    Here is what we know about Obama:

    Obama received campaign contributions from Tony Rezko and was involved in a real estate transaction involving Rezko and his wife.

    Obama had a long time association with racist, anti semitic pastor Jeremiah Wright.

    Obama has consistently evaded requests for information, lied about not knowing of pastor Wright’s comments and acted in a hypocritical manner such as when he condemned Don Imus in 2007.

    Obama has made hypocritical comments about open access to records:

    From the democratic presidential debate in Philadelphia on Oct. 30, Obama said to Clinton: “We have just gone through one of the most secretive administrations in our history, and not releasing, I think, these records at the same time, Hillary, as you’re making the claim that this is the basis for your experience, I think, is a problem.”

    November 3 2007. The Obama campaign sent out a letter  pressing Clinton to release her White House schedules before the Iowa caucuses.

    “Fully releasing these records is in keeping with the spirit of the process that makes the Iowa caucus so special,”

     Lynn Sweet, a columnist and the Washington Bureau Chief for the Chicago Sun-Times states:

    “Instead, since I have some reporting history here, I am noting a pattern that has emerged: This is Obama’s third ethical conversion of convenience — taking on a higher standard, but only when it appears to be politically expedient. Obama is making government transparency and ethics a centerpiece of his presidential campaign.”

    From a Chicago Tribune interview of November 12, 2007:

    “The status of any government records Sen. Barack Obama might still have from his time as a state lawmaker in Springfield has come up as he has repeatedly criticized Sen. Hillary Clinton for how slowly records from her husband’s administration have been released.

    In a Tribune interview Thursday, the Illinois Democrat said he had no intention of sharing any of the documents he might still have in his possession.”

    Next are the questions asked and responses from Obama. I know that many people have read this, but it is worth repeating:

    “Q: It is kind of unknown where some of the records from your time in Springfield are located. Where is that stuff, what do you have?

    “We had one district director. I had one staff person, so, you know, we didn’t have some elaborate sort of system. I didn’t at my disposal millions of dollars and potentially multiple staff people to conduct an archive. Now keep in mind, it is apples and oranges. First of all, I’m not the one who has made this an issue. We saw during the debate, Senator Clinton was asked about it and the suggestion was somehow they’ve done all they could. And my simple point was, I don’t think there is some smoking gun in these archives or something, or some damning evidence. The only point that I’ve made is that, you know, Senator Clinton continues to base her claim on experience, in part, in substantial part, on her role as first lady, because if her, you know, experience was just based on her tenure as an elected official, it’s thinner than mine. So, I think it’s fair for people to ask, you know, what exactly was she doing, if that’s a substantial claim that she is making. So, I’m not interested in playing a game of gotcha, where I think there is evidence of something. I’m assuming most of this stuff is pretty mundane, you know, stuff. But what we do know is that she was involved in health care. Based on the questions you just asked me, or [New York Times reporter Jeff] Zeleny just asked me today, there’s this sense of, well, yeah, I was in charge of health care, but the fact that it didn’t work out, wasn’t my fault. That, we’ve at least got a public record that she was involved. From that point forward, we really have no idea what she was involved in. And so, you know, what I think, what I think, is not, doesn’t make sense is to say, to able to take credit for whatever Clinton Administration successes that she wants, and then selectively distance herself from any Clinton Administration failures, and not have some sort of public record that allows people to get a sense of that. Now, my sense is that this is information that, if they wanted to accelerate the process, so that it was available before this election, they could get it out there.”

    Q: What about your stuff, though? What do you have?

    “I have no idea. I mean [muffled on recording]. I really don’t. Again, I did not have at my disposal. I wasn’t preparing for the Obama state senatorial library.”

    Q: You must have kept some stuff. Correspondence, calendars?

    “The problem is whatever remaining documents I have are inevitably incomplete. And then the questions going to be, where’s this or where’s that. Once I start heading down that road, then it puts me in a position that could end up being misleading. I don’t want to mislead people. I don’t know the extent of the records that I have as a state senator.””

    Read more from the Chicago Tribune:

    http://weblogs.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/blog/2007/11/obama_did_not_want_his_poems_s.html

    The following is from Lynn Sweet of the Chicago Sun-Times on November 11, 2007:

    “On Friday, Lynn Sweet of the Chicago Sun-Times reported that she had asked Obama at a news conference: “Do your state senate papers still exist? If they do, just where are they? And would you ever intend to make them public to be responsive to some requests?”

    Sweet wrote that he replied: “Nobody has requested specific documents.”

    But the Chicago Tribune has reported that it “requested documents from his time in Springfield and never received a response.”

    And Sweet wrote of her own paper, “The Chicago Sun-Times has also been asking about Obama’s papers.””

    “RNC spokesman Danny Diaz said of Obama’s reticence on records: “Barack Obama is a rookie senator with few accomplishments. Perhaps he’s reluctant to inform the public about his activities in Springfield because they demonstrate a lack of leadership at a state level as well.””

    “An Obama spokesman, Ben LaBolt, last week declined to say where Obama’s records from his years in the Illinois State Senate are located. There is no law mandating the state to archive the records. The records from Obama’s office — if he kept them — would potentially show appointments with lobbyists, policy memos, meetings, etc.”

    “Obama’s campaign has refused to identify the biggest bundlers, people who are raising at least $200,000 for him and are given membership in his National Finance Council. Obama, as all major candidates, declines most of the time to disclose details about most fund-raising events.”

    “Sometimes Obama has come late to the game. He did not stop taking rides on subsidized corporate jets until the week he was tapped to be the Democrats’ chief spokesman on ethics in January 2006. In 2005, Obama took 23 such private aircraft flights, some to attend fund-raisers he headlined. In 2006, Obama led the fight to ban lawmakers from taking cut-rate private air travel.”

    “Obama has supported more earmark disclosure to bolster government transparency. Last June, Obama disclosed the earmarks he requested for Illinois and national interests. However, his office, after repeated requests since June, has yet to disclose earmarks Obama sought in 2006, before he was running for president.”

    Read more from Lynn Sweet here:

    http://blogs.suntimes.com/sweet/2007/11/sweet_column_obama_record_on_t.html

    Tim Russert interviewed Barack Obama on November 11, 2007. During part of the interview Russert asked Obama about supplying records. Here is that segment:

    “MR. RUSSERT:  You talked about Senator Clinton having records released from the Clinton Library regarding her experience as first lady, and yet when you were asked about, “What about eight years in the state senate of Illinois,” you said, “I don’t know.” Where, where are the—where are your records?

    SEN. OBAMA:  Tim, we did not keep those records.  I…

    MR. RUSSERT:  Are they gone?

    SEN. OBAMA:  Well, let’s be clear.  In the state senate, every single piece of information, every document related to state government was kept by the state of Illinois and has been disclosed and is available and has been gone through with a fine-toothed comb by news outlets in Illinois.  The, the stuff that I did not keep has to do with, for example, my schedule.  I didn’t have a schedule.  I was a state senator.  I wasn’t intending to have the Barack Obama State Senate Library.  I didn’t have 50 or 500 people to, to help me archive these issues.  So…

    MR. RUSSERT:  But your meetings with lobbyists and so forth, there’s no record of that?

    SEN. OBAMA:  I did not have a scheduler, but, as I said, every document related to my interactions with government is available right now.  And, as I said, news outlets have already looked at them.

    MR. RUSSERT:  Is your schedule available anywhere?  Are—the records exist?

    SEN. OBAMA:  I—Tim, I kept my own schedule.  I didn’t have a scheduler.

    MR. RUSSERT:  Senator Durbin, your colleague, publishes his schedule each day.  Would you do that?

    SEN. OBAMA:  Well, you know, these days I have a public presidential schedule that I think everybody has access to.”

    To read more of the Tim Russert interview click here:

     http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21738432/

    Obama said, “I didn’t have a schedule.” What kind of evasive answer is that? Everyone has a schedule.

    Larry Sinclair’s allegation means almost nothing in a vacuum. However, when you look at the big picture, the picture that appears from all of the puzzle pieces, a scary picture emerges. Barack Obama is running for President of the United States. He has to be held to a high standard. It is time for some answers and information.

    Obama must provide records.

    Where was Obama on November 4, 1999?

    November 4 1999, Where was Obama November 4, 1999, Obama absent from Illinois Senate, Obama’s name on 2 bills

    Where was Barack Obama on November 4, 1999? Obama was not present in the Illinois Senate on November 4. Obama’s name was on 2 bills of record on November 4, 1999. There have been allegations by Larry Sinclair that he and Obama used drugs and engaged in gay sex between November 3 and November 8, 1999. There allegedly was an encounter in a rented limo and another encounter.

    As important as a senate session is, especially when one’s name is attached to 2 bills, there must be an important reason for missing the senate session and a record of the reason. I would like to hear from Barack Obama or his campaign or anyone else with documented knowledge of Barack Obama’s whereabouts on November 4, 1999. Once I receive conclusive proof, I will post it.

    Jeremiah Wright, Sons of Italy, letter, Wright’s comments about Italians,Jesus crucifixion, public lynching Italian style

    Jeremiah Wright made derogatory statements about Italians before his hate filled, racist sermons became widely known. The Italian insults were made in 2007. Obviously, Italian Americans were outraged by Wright’s comments. Apparently the Sons of Italy responded with a letter. Below is allegedly the letter from the Sons of Italy. I have no confirmation of the contents. If you have any confirming or denial information, please provide it.

      

    “We write on behalf of the 103 year old Order Sons of Italy in America (OSIA) and our 550,000 family members throughout the nation, and our anti-defamation arm, the Commission for Social Justice (CSJ), to strongly and unequivocally reject and condemn recently reported remarks made by the Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr. According to MSNBC and other published and internet sources, Rev. Wright in 2007 stated: “[Jesus’] enemies had their opinion about Him . . . . The Italians for the most part looked down their garlic noses at the Galileans.” He then called Jesus’ crucifixion “a public lynching Italian style” executed in “Apartheid Rome”.

    OSIA and the CSJ have sterling records of championing social justice and fair treatment for all people regardless of race, ethnicity, nationality or religion, and of combating, wherever and whenever necessary discrimination, defamation and stereotyping. We have worked closely, collaboratively and effectively for such causes with numerous and various social , religious and cultural groups throughout our long history. The civically responsible, philanthropic and patriotic works of the Sons of Italy have been publicly attested to by every US president since Woodrow Wilson.

    Indeed, it is this unchallenged record of advocacy of social justice for all people that has delayed our response to Rev. Wright’s unfortunate remarks, as we seek to lend reason and clarity to a deeply troubling historical reality. Rev. Wright’s remarks cannot merely be attributed to “anger”, but must be viewed against the backdrop of many years of what historian Richard Gambino called a “monstrous tradition in America” and an “injustice which remains hidden” directed at Italians.

    While America of the late 19th century witnessed widespread racist, ethnic and anti-Catholic hatred, few immigrant groups suffered more than Italians: in 1891, in New Orleans, ten Italian prisoners found not guilty by a jury were executed by a mob in the largest lynching in American history. That same year, several Italians were lynched in West Virginia. In March 1894, several hundred Italians were driven out of Altoona, Pennsylvania, by an armed mob. In 1895, six Italian labor organizers were lynched in Colorado, six more in Hahnville, Louisiana, as were five Italian shopkeepers four years later in Tallulah, La. Fatal mob attacks against Italians were recorded in 1901, in Mississippi, 1906 in West Virginia, and 1910 in Tampa, Fl. In addition to the highly prejudicial and legally tainted Sacco and Vanzetti case of the 1920s, historian John Higham wrote that “No pogrom has ever stained American soil, nor did any single anti-Jewish incident in the 1920’s match the violence of the [vigilante mob-led] anti-Italian riot ” in West Frankfort, Illinois.

    Words are important and have meaning, clear and subliminal. Shock jock Don Imus, whose very staple and basis for earning many millions of dollars, is the use of provocative, abrasive, demeaning and edge language, was fired and universally excoriated for the use of three extremely offensive and inappropriate words. A skilled communicator, Rev. Wright’s deliberate choice of words having explicitly 20th century meaning (”lynching Italian style”, “Apartheid”, even “Italians”; there were Romans at the time, Italy didn’t exist) to describe first century AD events speak to an intention far beyond the expression of mere “anger”, or the citing of putative historical truths. We decry those intentions and sentiments as, we are confident, do all decent and fair-minded individuals. Rev. Wright, while perhaps retired, nevertheless owes all Italian Americans a sincere apology. We live in a profoundly complex, multifaceted, diverse society, which defies simplistic questions, answers and reasons. We must transcend personal injustices and seek a deeper understanding and appreciation that each of us, separately and as a group, often are and feel offended. No one has a monopoly on being discriminated against, defamed or stereotyped.

    OSIA’s and the CSJ’s purpose here is not political. We desire no involvement in the current presidential campaign, nor do we wish to become embroiled in a political maelstrom. Still, one of the three candidates will, in all probability, become the next leader of the free world and the next president, thus representing all of the US’s 300 million-plus citizens, 26 million of whom are of Italian heritage. We believe that Senators Clinton, McCain and Obama must unequivocally condemn the words and sentiments voiced by Rev. Wright, and clearly disavow his actions.”

    Submitted by

    Philip R. Piccigallo, Ph.D
    National Executive Director
    Order Sons of Italy in America

    The Supreme Council
    Order Sons of Italy in America

    The Commission for Social Justice Board of Directors
     

    Barack Obama speech, Obama interview, Greensboro NC, March 26 2008, tear each other down, past divisions, hypocrisy

    Barack Obama gave a speech in Greensboro NC on March 26, 2008. Obama also was interviewed. In Obama’s speech, he talks of change and instead of tearing each other down, lifting the country up. He also spoke of past divisions and coming together as blacks and whites. Obama also spoke of politics without PR or spin and for more honesty and truthfulness.

    Once again, Obama is guilty of what he is preaching against, spin, dishonesty, etc. Obama has not been honest about his longtime association with pastor Jeremiah Wright and criminal elements. Obama was hypocritical when he lambasted Don Imus on April 11 2007, yet denounced the comments of Jeremiah Wright only when it was politically expedient. Here is one of the comments Obama made on April 11, 2007:

    “And the notion that somehow it’s cute or amusing, or a useful diversion, I think, is something that all of us have to recognize is just not the case. We all have First Amendment rights. And I am a constitutional lawyer and strongly believe in free speech, but as a culture, we really have to do some soul-searching to think about what kind of toxic information are we feeding our kids,”

    There are 2 main points about Obama’a quote in April 11, 2007. One is that what Imus said was very tame compared to what pastor Wright said. The other is that Obama said it about a year ago. What a hypocrite! Why was he not speaking out about Wright and Farrakhan then. They were certainly affecting his and other children.

    In Greensboro, Obama was asked about Jeremiah Wright and racism. Obama said he does not encounter many people he would consider racist. Obama said the conversation about race in the United States needs to move beyond “this polarized back-and-forth about who is doing what to whom.”

    The speech and interview can be viewed here:

    http://www.news-record.com/apps/pbcs.dll/section?category=multimedia&pluid=2566&playNowId=2563