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Health care debate, Saturday, November 7, 2009, Obama visits Congress, Socialist Health Care Bill, Control, Far left support, Weekend debate

To:

US Congress

From:

The American People

 

Who are you going to listen to?

The American People, who do not want Government Health Care and higher spending.

or

Barack Obama, who is pushing his personal agenda and that of far left socialists.

 

Reported here October 22, 2009

All you need to know about health care reform

What is the current attempt by Obama and liberal Democrats at health care reform all about?

  • Appeasing their far left core support.
  • More control over the American people to get votes.
  • Payback to trial lawyers and other big supporters (refer to contribution table above).
  • Achieving the goals of far left, socialist, communists who are controlling the party with the goal of redistribution of wealth..

All you need to know about Obama Health Care

Today, November 7, 2009, from Fox News.

“Health Care Debate on Capitol Hill Begins”
“The debate on the House floor comes as President Obama prepares to make a rare visit to Capitol Hill aimed at closing the deal, a move that reflects the do-or-die stakes.”
“The House kicked off what is expected to be a tense day of debate Saturday leading up to a final vote on legislation acting on President Obama’s call for a sweeping overhaul of the health care system.

The debate on the House floor comes as Obama prepares to make a rare visit to Capitol Hill aimed at closing the deal, a move that reflects the do-or-die stakes.

The historic House vote, planned for late Saturday, was expected to be tight and Democratic leaders hoped Obama’s late-morning visit would tip the balance in their favor.

In the opening moments of debate, Democrats hailed the legislation, which would extend insurance to tens of millions of Americans and enact dramatic changes to the country’s medical system, as an advance for the nation’s social fabric and a moral and economic imperative.

Republicans said it would be a government takeover of the health care system that would damage the economy and erode the doctor-patient relationship.

Late Friday, House Democrats cleared an abortion-related impasse blocking a vote and officials expressed optimism they had finally lined up the support needed to pass Obama’s signature issue.

“We expect it to come to a vote. We expect it to have 218 votes,” House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer said Saturday.”
“With Democrats’ command of the necessary votes looking tenuous in the final hours, Obama threw the weight of his administration behind the effort to round up support. He and top administration officials worked the phones to pressure wavering lawmakers.

Rep. Jason Altmire, D-Pa., said he heard Friday from Obama, White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel, Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius and Education Secretary Arne Duncan.

Their message: “This is a historic moment. You don’t want to end up with nothing,” said Altmire, who remained undecided.

Democratic leaders hoped to hold the vote Saturday evening, but Majority Leader Steny Hoyer said it could slip.

Democrats hold 258 seats in the House and can afford 40 defections and still wind up with 218, a majority if all lawmakers vote. But all 177 Republicans were expected to vote “no,” and Democratic leaders faced a series of complications trying to seal the needed votes for their complex and controversial legislation that would affect one-sixth of the economy and touch the lives of countless Americans.”

“Democrats have little room for error, with the prospect of the 2010 midterms looming large and a some of their own moderates already declaring their opposition.”
Read more:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/11/07/obama-tries-close-sale-health-care-overhaul/

Congressmen, regardless of how you vote and behave, we will use this as a scorecard in 2010.
We will vote the Jackasses out in 2010.

Socialist Health Care Bill, Nancy Pelosi and Congress ignore public, Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, Conclude debate and vote on Saturday, Vote the jackasses out

“We were waist deep in the Big Muddy, And the big fool said to push on.”…Pete Seeger

The arrogant Jackasses continue to push on

to ram a unpopular

Socialist

Health Care Bill

down our throats

 

From Fox News November 5, 2009

“House Poised to Debate, Vote on Health Care Reform Bill”

“President Obama’s sweeping vision of a health care overhaul will come to an historic debate and vote in the House this weekend.

Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, D-Md., said the House would conclude its historic debate and vote on Saturday.

“That would be my expectation,” he said on the House floor, responding to a query from House Minority Whip Eric Cantor, R-Va., who asked whether lawmakers would be able to leave Washington Saturday.

“It is our intent to finish the health care bill Saturday, Saturday night or Sunday morning,” he said.

Republicans will be allowed to offer their health care bill as an amendment, Hoyer said.

The Congressional Budget Office estimated that the GOP plan, while keeping premiums down and costing a mere fraction of the Democrats’ bill, would cover only 3 million more Americans. By comparison, the Democrats’ bill is projected to cover 36 million.

On Thursday, House Democratic leaders predicted swift passage of the bill and Obama declared health reform is closer to passage than ever before.

The bill received a huge boost Thursday from two major groups: The American Medical Association and the powerful seniors’ lobby AARP. AARP, with its 40 million members, promised to run ads and contact activists to gin up support.

“I urge Congress to listen to AARP, listen to the AMA, and pass this reform for hundreds of millions of Americans who will benefit from it,” Obama told reporters during an unannounced visit to the White House briefing room after the endorsements were announced.

At the other end of Pennsylvania Avenue, Democrats were listening.”

Read more:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/11/05/house-poised-debate-vote-health-care-reform/

We must fight this socialist takeover.

However, do not be troubled if the Obama thugs pass a government run health care bill.

We must change Congress anyway next year.

We will vote the jackasses out in 2010.

And then we will repeal the socialist bill.

Michele Bachmann Patriot V Harry Reid Politician, Nancy Pelosi politics, Socialist Health Care Bill, US Constitution trampled, Support Bachmann, Kick out Pelosi and Reid

Patriot Michele Bachmann

Vs

Politicians Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid

Politicians Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid and the Democratic controlled Congress are attempting to ram the Obama socialist Health Care Bill down the throats of the American public. Patriot stateswoman, Representative Michele Bachmann of Minnesota, is trying to stop passage of a government run Health Care Program. Michele Bachmann will confront Pelosi and Congress on the steps of the Capitol Building on Thursday, November 5, 2009. We must support Bachmann.

Regardless of what the out of control Congress does, we must get rid of Reid and Pelosi. Harry Reid can be voted out of office in 2010. Whether or not Pelosi can be voted out of office, since she represents one of the most liberal parts of the country, does not matter. We can change Congress and remove her as Speaker of the House. That is very doable.

Let’s focus on Harry Reid and his involvement in chicanery and constitutionally shady activites, attempting to force socialist health care upon us.

Over the past several months, the makeup of the senate and the number of senators required to pass a Health Care Bill has been talked about and analyzed. Two numbers, 50 and 60, have been frequently mentioned.  The following explains what Harry Reid and his cohorts are attempting to do (recent events may make even this difficult to achieve).

From the US House rules

“THE BUDGET RECONCILIATION PROCESS
In the Senate, total debate on a reconciliation bill is limited to 20 hours, although the actual time for consideration of the omnibus package often exceeds this time limit set in the Budget Act. Motions and amendments may be offered and considered without debate at the end of this time period. There are also restrictions on the content of a reconciliation package and on the amendments which may be offered to it. For example, any amendment to the bill that is not germane, would add extraneous material, would cause deficit levels to increase, or that contains recommendations with respect to the Social Security program, is not in order. The Budget Act also maintains that reconciliation provisions must be related to reconciling the budget. For example, section 313 of the Budget Act, more commonly known as the “Byrd Rule”, provides a point of order in the Senate against extraneous matter in reconciliation bills. Determining what is extraneous is often a procedural and political quagmire navigated in part by the Senate Parliamentarian. The Byrd Rule and other points of order in the Budget Act may only be waived in the Senate by a three-fifths vote. Furthermore, the Budget Act prevents reconciliation legislation from being filibustered on the Senate floor.”

http://www.rules.house.gov/archives/bud_rec_proc.htm

From Patriot’s Network, Dick Morris

“Once Obama’s plan fails to attract 60 votes, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) will fall back on reconciliation as a strategy and hope for 50 votes. But if the Democrats pass the bill with 50 votes, it will set a precedent they may come to rue. It would basically eliminate the filibuster as a parliamentary tactic and would condemn any future minority party (Democrats in 2011?) to the same irrelevance as afflicts their House colleagues. To be in the minority in a chamber run by a bare majority is not a fun task.”

Read more

http://usaguns.net/patriot/pg/blog/Syndee/read/5632/dick-morris-the-fox-news-analyst-says-we-can-still-defeat-obamacare

From the Las Vegas Review Journal October 18, 2009

“If Harry Reid decides to use the Senate’s “reconciliation” process to ram health care legislation through his chamber and crush a filibuster, then he’ll have to reconcile something else: his astounding hypocrisy.

The majority leader from Nevada is working behind closed doors to merge health care bills passed by the Senate’s health and finance committees. He desperately wants to come up with something that can get 60 votes — the number needed to halt any attempt by minority Republicans to block a final vote on the massive expansion of federal authority.

 
Although Reid has 60 votes in his caucus, it might be an impossible task. Moderate Democrats oppose a “public option” that allows the government to sell health insurance and undercut private-sector providers, and far-left Democrats are insisting that any bill include the first step toward nationalized health care.

So Reid has let it be known that wrangling over the public option might compel him to go with the “nuclear option”: ending a filibuster without 60 votes.

To do that, Reid would have to use a parliamentary maneuver called “budget reconciliation.” Votes on the federal budget are exempt from filibusters. If he takes this route, Reid would have to pretend the legislation is a simple matter of fiscal housekeeping — a routine issue that needs just 51 votes to pass.

Given the complexity and controversy surrounding new health insurance mandates and regulations, such an end-around would be unprecedented.”

“”The filibuster is a critical tool in keeping the majority in check,” Reid continued. “This central fact has been acknowledged and even praised by senators from both parties. …”

“The right to extended debate is never more important than when one party controls Congress and the White House. …”

“Some in this Chamber want to throw out 217 years of Senate history in the quest for absolute power. They want to do away with Mr. Smith coming to Washington. They want to do away with the filibuster. They think they are wiser than our Founding Fathers. I doubt that’s true.””

“In other words, the filibuster is “a critical tool in keeping the majority in check” when Democrats are in the minority, but it’s a disposable relic when liberals are trying to run up the national debt and regulate our economy to death.”

“But if he decides to take the filibuster out back and shoot it, he risks incurring even more wrath from Nevada voters, who already are growing tired of his expedience and pandering to the far left. A Review-Journal poll conducted this month found 54 percent of registered Nevada voters don’t want Reid to use reconciliation to pass sweeping health insurance regulations. Only 32 percent approve of the tactic.

“If he does that, he is resigning himself to not being re-elected (in 2010),” said Brad Coker of Mason-Dixon Polling & Research Inc., which conducted the poll.

If he does that, no amount of explaining, no amount of convenient forgetting will save Hypocrite Harry.”

Read more

http://www.lvrj.com/opinion/reid-champion-of-the-filibuster-might-nuke-it-64690187.html

Nevada citizens speak out on Reid

“He (Reid) and Pelosi have totally destroyed this country,” said Elouise Joyner of Bullhead City. “I have no idea what their agenda is, but it’s not an American agenda,” she said. “There’s nobody that wants this stupid health care bill, yet he’s going to push it.”

“I don’t think he should be returned (to office) because I don’t believe in his philosophy,” said Jeannie Norris of Mesquite, Nev. “I don’t want more taxes.”

“He hasn’t done anything for Nevada,” said Norris’ husband, Jim, “and he just doesn’t represent me and he doesn’t believe in what I believe in.””

Read more

http://www.mohavedailynews.com/articles/2009/09/27/news/local/local1.txt

From Defeat Read 2010

“There is a lot of work to do before the Mid Term elections in 2010 and not much time to do it. If you have a little extra time, we are looking for volunteers to lend a hand in this effort.
As a darling of the left, Harry Reid is the one most well funded candidates in the Senate and that is just his own campaign war chest. So far he has over 7 million dollars as of his last quarterly report. He will also be aided by every left wing special interest group in America.

The DNC has identified his seat as one that is particularly vulnerable seeing how unpopular he is with many Nevada voters. Recent polls show his unfavorable ratings hovering around 50%.

Unlike ACORN we will not be receiving any of the stimulus money. This means we are not going to be able to do this alone. It will take a group effort to have a real effect.
Like many of Harry Reid’s constituents, we do not feel that the Senator is representing the interests of the people of the great State of Nevada. Senator Reid has become one of the spokespersons for the expansion of government and for trillions of dollars in deficit spending.”

http://defeatreid2010.org/

HarryReidKickOut

Harry Reid recently has indicated that a Health Care Bill may not be passed this week. The elections yesterday and the Michele Bachmann Tea party on the Capitol steps tomorrow may cause some Democrats to think twice about voting against their constituents’ wishes. However, do not trust Harry Reid. Keep a close eye on him.

And make certain Reid is voted out of office next year.