Obama foreign student aid whistleblower, June 21, 2013, Orly Taitz sworn statement, Higher Education Services evidence of fraud, Financial aid microfilm, Obama Indonesian citizen

Obama foreign student aid whistleblower, June 21, 2013, Orly Taitz sworn statement, Higher Education Services evidence of fraud, Financial aid microfilm, Obama Indonesian citizen

“Why has Obama, since taking the White House, used Justice Department Attorneys, at taxpayer expense,  to avoid presenting a legitimate birth certificate and college records?”…Citizen Wells

“Khalid Al-Mansour was “raising money” for Obama.”
“Khalid Al-Mansour was trying to help Obama get into Harvard Law School.”…Percy Sutton

“Barack Obama, show me the college loans.”…Citizen Wells

There are many controversies and deficiencies associated with Obama’s records and eligibility for the presidency.

Obama is not eligible due to his father being Kenyan/British.

Obama has never produced a birth certificate proving US birth.

Obama has produced no proof that he is a natural born citizen. A requirement for the POTUS.

No one in the mainstream media has covered Obama’s deficiencies, including, and especially Glenn Beck, who ridiculed anyone questioning Obama’s eligibility.

At Citizen Wells, we began using these questions years ago.

“Why did Obama, prior to occupying the White House, employ Robert Bauer of Perkins Coie, to assist him in avoiding the presentation of a legitimate birth certificate and college records?”

“Why has Obama, since taking the White House, used Justice Department Attorneys, at taxpayer expense, to avoid presenting a legitimate birth certificate and college records?”

Why wouldn’t Glenn Beck or anyone in the media doing their job ask those questions. They are based on facts. Matters of public record.
Whether you agree with attorney Orly Taitz and her methodologies or not. The following must be considered on it’s own merits.

“1. On 06.19.2013 I participated in a rally in front of the U.S. Capitol.
2. At the rally I met a whistleblower, who is an employee of the Higher Education Services Corporation in Albany, New York. (Hereinafter HESC)
3. The whistleblower advised me that she is seeking to provide to a judge evidence of fraud.
4. The whistleblower stated that she personally reviewed aid records of Mr. Barack Obama. She reviewed the financial aid microfilm, where it stated that Mr. Obama received financial aid as a foreign student, citizen of Indonesia.”



From the Philip J. Berg 2008 lawsuit.

“There are unanswered questions as to where Obama was actually born, in the United States or abroad, registering his birth in Hawaii. There are further unanswered questions regarding Obama’s United States Citizenship, if he ever held such, being expatriated and his failure to regain his citizenship by taking the oath of allegiance once he turned eighteen (18) years of age. There are additional unanswered questions regarding Obama’s “natural” citizenship status in Indonesia and if in fact Obama ever took the steps necessary and filed the appropriate immigration paperwork to become a “naturalized” citizen of the United States. Furthermore, there are unanswered questions into Obama’s multi citizenships with foreign countries, which he still maintains. To date, Obama has refused to prove he is qualified under the U.S. Constitution and his eligibility to run as President of the United States.”

From Citizen Wells March 21, 2013.

“Recently O’Reilly once again lamely raised the spectre of Obama’s hidden college records.

“How much the system helped President Obama is unknown, as his college records have been kept private.

To be fair to the president, it would be helpful to know how much the government subsidized his climb to the top.””

College records kept private?

Obama used Robert Bauer of Perkins Coie and other private practice attorneys prior to January 2009 and a long list of US Justice Dept. attorneys, at taxpayer expense, afterwards, to keep his college and other records hidden from the public.

How much the government subsidized him?

Bill O’Reilly, how about which governments helped Obama and how much?

We know that Obama had a full scholarship to Occidental, which was not academic or athletic. This came after a self admitted poor performance in high school.

Who paid for Obama’s free ride at Occidental?


How did Obama pay for Columbia, that is, if he actually attended?

From the St. Petersburg Evening Independent November 6, 1979.


Vernon Jarrett

What about those rumored billions of dollars the oil rich Arab nations are
supposed to unload on American black leaders and minority institutions?
“It’s not just a rumor. Aid will come from some of the Arab states,”
predicted a black San Francisco lawyer who has close ties to officials of
the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC).

“The first indications of Arab help to American blacks may be announced in
December.” said Khalid Abdullah Tariq Al-Mansour, formerly known as Donald
Warden, of the Holmes and Warden law firm.

Al-Mansour is the lawyer who filed a friend-of-the-court brief in support
of OPEC last winter when the International Association of Machinists and
Aerospace Workers (IAM) filed an antitrust suit against the 13 OPEC
countries in U.S. District Court in Los Angeles.”


We know how Obama attended Harvard.

A picture is worth a thousand words.


Thanks to commenter GORDO.

115 responses to “Obama foreign student aid whistleblower, June 21, 2013, Orly Taitz sworn statement, Higher Education Services evidence of fraud, Financial aid microfilm, Obama Indonesian citizen

  1. citizenwells

    From GORDO prior thread:

    June 20, 2013

    “New Whistleblower: Financial Aid Given To Obama As Foreign Student With Indonesian Citizenship”

    “Press Release: Law Offices of Dr. Orly Taitz;

    A whistle-blower from Higher Education Services Corporation in Albany New York came forward and advised Attorney Orly Taitz that she personally reviewed Barack Obama’s financial aid information, which stated that financial aid was given to Obama as foreign student and as a citizen of Indonesia.”

    “FLASHBACK: Obama’s Indonesian Stepsister Dies: Obama Referred As Adopted/Foster Brother”

    details here:


    continue reading here:


  2. This is a critical point: IF aka Obama is indeed currently a US Citizen, then he was naturalized from his previous Indonesian national status. A naturalized citizen can never be a Natural Born Citizen.

    Only an immigrant would need to falsify his birth certificate, and I’m sure his naturalization file is held Big Sis at the DHS.

  3. August 19, 2008

    “Obama calls himself a desi”

    “”Not only do I think I’m a desi , but I’m a desi ,” the San Francisco Chronicle quoted Obama as telling a mirthful crowd. “I’m a homeboy.” Obama then went on to recall how when he first went to Occidental College, his first roommate was Pakistani. And in his dorm, he said with a laugh, “Indians and Pakistanis came together under one roof … to cause havoc in the university.” To applause, he said he became an expert at cooking dal and other ethnic dishes, though “somebody else made the naan.”

    Obama also roomed with Pakistan and Indian collegemates, one of whom, Vinai Thummapally, …”

    At “The Obama File”:


    “… Obama entered Occidental College in California in 1979, where his freshman roommate was Imad Husain, a Pakistani, who’s now a Boston banker. Also, as a freshman, he quickly became friends with Mohammed Hasan Chandoo and Wahid Hamid, two wealthy Pakistanis.”

    Occidental Friends:

    “… He becomes friends with Pakistani Muslims Mohammed Hasan Chandoo (perhaps spelled Chandio) and Wahid Hamid, and Indian Vinai Thummalapally. … Fellow student Thummalapally lives with Obama in the summer of 1980. Obama’s freshman year roommate at Occidental is Imad Husain, a Pakistani.

    You will notice that Obama’s roommates were foreign students from South Asia. This is a pretty good indicator that Obama was enrolled as a foreign student from that part of the world.”


  4. Good afternoon all,

    I read that article pertaining to the so called whistle blower for Orly. I am having some slight issues with this notion.

    One, this is not the first time anyone has ever pull a stunt with Orly, in fact, the Obots go to her specifically as the “Go-To” person. They know she is highly gullible and will grasp anything she can. They also know she will submit anything in court they provide her, then make an ass out of her on the Obot sights while bragging.

    Secondly, this is nothing more than “Hearsay”. It is not permissible in any relevant case she has, nor criminally. No judge will allow amendments or evidence under a “he said – she said” analysis.

    Even if this woman has paper document(s) to give to Orly, I would be highly suspicious of it, the same as the Fake B.C. Fogblow made and gave Orly. It requires “Verification” of “Facts” before the next step. But we all know Orly won’t do that!

    Lastly, one needs to consider why this person would even approach Orly with this information. Obviously this person is aware of the Obama saga and all those involved, which also means this person is aware of various avenues to take such information too other than Orly. But for now, only Orly has been selected while batting a .000.

    My Spider senses decry Caution…..

    Just my 2 cents on this

  5. FYI,

    I truly believe Obama was registered as a Foreign Student. However, it will take a court order to get that information and submit in a court of law and expose it to the world. Hearsay won’t do it.

  6. Is O bama granting HIMSELF amnesty???

    Must See & Hear: Immigration Bill Waives Felony Document
    Fraud & Social Security Number Fraud For Illegal Aliens

    Just a few felony crimes that will be waived for ILLEGAL aliens under Immigration Bill S.744:

    ‘Falsely representing or knowingly using a Social Security Number obtained with false information’

    ‘Falsely claiming citizenship on Form I-9’

    ‘Knowingly altering a Social Security Card’

    ‘Document fraud to prove eligibility for employment’


  7. oldsailor80

    It is probable that Soetoro was NEVER naturalised and is NOT EVEN a citizen of the US. Any documentation that exists to that end is with out a doubt FRAUDULANT. He has never filed for a name change either,and it is plain to see that his alleged wife is not a wife at all.

  8. oldsailor80

    Without a doubt you are correct. The eventual prosecution of the alleged POTUS will require very high levels of government cooperation. However I am wondering how those who now view as much of the existing evidence as hearsay will explain the outcome when HEARSAY becomes the proven, and CERTIFIED FACT. Will the expression upon their face CHANGE, or will they create a little vacuum of DENIAL? Ought to be a really interesting outcome, if there is EVER any outcome at all.

  9. oldsailor80

    Soetoro cannot change the laws which already exist, but he can and does maneuver around our laws. Proving his SLIMEY nature. I refuse to accept any sort of default REASONING, or logic put forth by anyone. I personally have faith that EVENTUALLY the GARROTE will close tightly around his neck,and the necks of all of those who were instrumental in the fraudulant election and subsequent re election of such a person. Like the Nuerenberg trials, it will culminate with a KA THUMP.

  10. oldsailor80

    In the case of Mussolini it was not even the result of any court action……..his end was at the hands of an ENRAGED LYNCH MOB, and his body was left hanging upside down from a sign pole.

  11. oldsailor80

    I am going to change the 80 to 81. Can you retrain your equipment to recognise it as such?

  12. Gordo,

    From the article you posted………….

    Our guy in Jakarta writes: “The actual usage of the word ‘mengaji’ in Indonesian and Malaysian societies means the study of learning to recite the Quran in the Arabic language rather than the native tongue. “Mengagi” is a word and a term that is accorded the highest value and status in the mindset of fundamentalist societies here in Southeast Asia. To put it quite simply, ‘mengaji classes’ are not something that a non practicing or so-called moderate Muslim family would ever send their child to. To put this in a Christian context, this is something above and beyond simply enrolling your child in Sunday school classes.”

    “The fact that Obama had attended mengaji classes is well known in Indonesia and has left many there wondering just when Obama is going to come out of the closet.” As Plato said, the images and stories we feed our children affect them for life.

    “As I’ve stated before, the evidence seems to quite clearly show that both Ann Dunham and her husband Lolo Soetoro Mangunharjo were in fact devout Muslims themselves and they raised their son as such.”

    Obama’s half-sister, Maya, recalled that the family attended the mosque “for big communal events,” and “Obama occasionally followed his stepfather to the mosque for Friday prayers.”

    On January 24, 2007, the Obama campaign released the following statement, “To be clear, Senator Obama has never been a Muslim, was not raised a Muslim, and is a committed Christian who attends the United Church of Christ in Chicago.

    Then, on March 14th, 2007, the Obama Campaign told the LA Times he wasn’t a “practicing Muslim.”

    But his official website says: “Obama Has Never Been A Muslim, And Is a Committed Christian” (dated: 11/12/2007, and still up as of 5/5/2008)

    So where’s your testimony? How did you come to know Jesus? Tell us about it won’t you, Mr Soetoro? I could claim anything…..same as you.

    BTW, Gordo, your archives rock!

  13. a committed Christian (would never attend the United Church of Christ in Chicago, my addition) who attends the United Church of Christ in Chicago.

  14. citizenwells

    oldsailor, send me 2 quick comments with 81.
    I will approve.

  15. citizenwells

    You are correct.
    Next play, the judge must react.

  16. Montrey, my thoughts!!!

  17. citizenwells

    Thanks Observer.

  18. ‘Offensive to Muslims’: Dem Congressman calls on FBI to take down photos of terrorists

    Always-unfiltered Rep. Jim McDermott penned a letter to FBI Director Robert Mueller Wednesday claiming a Joint Terrorism Task Force ‘Faces of Global Terrorism’ ad is racist.

    McDermott, a Democrat from Washington state, voiced his “deep concern” about the ad, which shows mug shots of international terrorists, and asked the FBI chief to “reconsider publicizing” it.

    According to McDermott, the “ad featuring sixteen photos of wanted terrorists is not only offensive to Muslims and ethnic minorities, but it encourages racial and religious profiling.”
    Oh yea?…I thin this Congressman needs to bend over, take his right hand and grab his left ear, then take his left hand and grab his right ear…..and pull real hard….that should dislodge his head out of a** where he can see the sunshine and smell the fresh air……however, I’m sure Mr. Mueller will comply with his request….after all, we don’t want to offend any ISLAMIC TERRORIST, they may one day be our next door neighbors.
    Would someone tell this stupid, idiot, make believe Congressman that cutting off peoples heads by the ISLAMIC TERRORIST and cutting out the hearts and livers of people who do not agree with them then brazenly eating them on videos is not very nice and that is damn OFFENSIVE to most people in the world….

    OK Congressman McDermott,…enough is enough…. please take down another letter to FBI Director Mueller…are you ready…copy as I talk, and don’t leave out a single word I say…every word is important…

    Dear MR. FBI,
    Forget what I said in my last letter. When the Terrorist stop cutting off peoples heads, and cutting out their hearts, I will write you another letter It was just a passing thought anyway. I really didn’t think it was racist in the first place, I just wanted to score some “brownie points” with the boss.
    Jim McDermott

  19. Observer,

    From my previous post…………

    “Then, on March 14th, 2007, the Obama Campaign told the LA Times he wasn’t a “practicing Muslim.”
    OK, apparently he WAS a practicing Muslim, because he was lying through his teeth. That’s what Muslims do. And they seem to do it very well.

  20. SueQ……”Once a Muslim…Always a Muslim”…..or a DEAD apostate ….

    I think thats the way their religion goes…..





    I hope you enjoyed it as much as I did…I have played it about three time now…lol

  23. haha……./My wife just came in and called me a dirty old man……

    well I am an old man, that I admit…but I can’t be too dirty, I just took a shower.

    Hummmm…let me think about that one a while…lol

  24. At least i like to add a little spice to the party…. wakes you up doesn’t it?

  25. Your wife is right, RM. If you watched that 3 times, then you need a little break from the computer. Go smooch your wife and make her dinner. 🙂

  26. hahaha SueQ….thats funny…I like people with a good sense of humor and you are someone who fits that bill….the damn world is too dreary as it is…..

    The wife just came in and said, “giddy on up Buster, we are giddying on out”….that sounds like an order to me !
    She wants me to take her to dinner…thats a great idea……..

    Have fun everyone….will be back on later tonight….

  27. oldsailor81

    Sorry I missed your get back earlier. Here comes the 81

  28. oldsailor81

    Just forwarded a huge pak of data to Zullo for them to look at.

  29. “Freudian Slip: Yahoo News Goes Birther; Reports Obama Won’t Stop By Kenya His Country Of Birth”
    By Rachel Rose Hartman @ Yahoo News via Free Republic

    “President Barack Obama makes the first extended trip to Africa of his presidency next week—but he won’t be stopping in the country of his birth.”

    “Note: Yahoo News has since changed the sentence to read, “but he won’t be stopping in his ancestral homeland.””



  30. Here’s what Russia thinks of Obama…..might be sentiment of the rest of the world too. “Weak eyed Obama is leader of Sodom and Gomorrah….”



    Bill Whittle is one smart dude…..everything he says makes good sense….


    “Classic cookie has new summer flavor that has some concerned about racist overtones”


  33. For those interested, Ted Cruz has a petition going concerning Amnesty. Here is the article:

    Here is the petition: http://www.tedcruz.org/stop-amnesty/

    Thank you.

  34. 8:22 pm —

    “Freudian Slip: Yahoo News Goes Birther; Reports Obama Won’t Stop By Kenya His Country Of Birth”
    By Rachel Rose Hartman @ Yahoo News …”
    June 22, 2013

    “Twitter mob calls for head of Yahoo! News’ ‘birther’ White House reporter
    By Twitchy Staff”

    “@YahooNews needs to fire racist @rachelrhartman. If they don’t, they are no better than the racist Fox News.
    — lapared (@lapared) June 22, 2013”

    “After Yahoo! News White House reporter Rachel Rose Hartman “outed” herself earlier this evening as a birther with a piece referring to President Obama’s African country of origin, her Twitter feed has been quiet. She might be away from the computer (it happens), or she might have gone into hiding until Yahoo! finds some way to blame Fox News for the error. Liberal news outlets are used to letting things like this blow over, but Hartman compounded her sin by addressing the cost of the first family’s Africa trip.”
    “Some pretty insane Twitter reactions at”



  35. Good Morning! As much as I would like to believe the whistle-blower about Obama’s status as a foreign student, I kind of agree with William’s analysis. Time will tell and some validation of credentials of WB

  36. GORDO | June 22, 2013 at 6:49 am Interesting!

  37. citizenwells

    Good morning Zach, et al.

  38. citizenwells

    I understood when reporting on Orly’s declaration that the “whistleblower” could be a plant
    or non credible. However, the story is very plausible.

  39. I agree CW…the evidence is plausible…but a solid provable paper evidence trail is required….I think Orly is chasing her tail again…..

  40. citizenwells

    Not leaving things up to Orly.
    There are people out there who have seen Obama’s school records.
    Hoping they will speak out.
    It is their constitutional duty.

  41. At “The Obama File”:



    “Yahoo! News goes Birther”

    “If it’s on Yahoo! News, it must be true!

    It’s what all of these reliable sources say, as well.”

    CDR Charles Kerchner:

    By “Protect Our Liberty:

    “Kenyan Gov Officials, African Newspapers, Obama 1991 Bio, Obama Family Mbrs, and other Accounts Reporting Obama is Kenyan Born Collection”


  42. June 22, 2013

    “MacBook Pro battery recall due to extreme fire hazards”

    “This recall involves both black and white ATG lithium-ion replacement batteries for MacBook Pro notebook computers. Model number “MC-MBOOK13B” is on the label of the black battery and model number “MC-BOOK13W” is on the label of the white battery. The ATG logo is on both batteries. The total number of batteries that fall under the recall notice are about 5,100 third-party replacement MacBook Pro batteries.

    The recall involves any batteries bough from Bestbuy.com and Partstore.com, or shipped to customers through the Geek Squad Protection fulfillment at Best Buy from September 2008 through June 2012.”


  43. Worth watching once again…………….if for no other reason than to see the smile from Obama’s face disappear.

    Compare this to Obama’s speech when his teleprompter took a vacation.

  44. Thistle………..
    I would venture to say that Putin was just calling a SPADE a SPADE!

  45. With regard to calling a SPADE A SPADE it is my conclusion that most of us have known for many moons exactly what Soetoro is. I would also add that he can’t be the leader he is far to stupid,but I would bet the farm that he is SODOM himself.

  46. ……maybe that is why he draws flies! Flies like the smell of FECES.

  47. Unlike everyone else I am inclined to look a little closer at the facts,and do a little digging of my own, after which I will then decide if Orly is getting “DIZZY”. Take a look at the history and direction of the organisation, look at the faith of those who are employed by them, and take a close look at their political affiliations, and who they supported in the recent election etc. Lot to learn about them. Then take a look at the background of the whistleblower. Look and see what they all have been up to lately. Easy enough to dig up!

  48. Thistle,

    From the article you linked……….. Mr. Lerma says:

    “The US is broke and Russia is the world’s largest oil producer with a growing economy. Russia is not backing down and they have China to back them up. Who will back the US? Tiny Britain? Americans are turning gay and Russian men are looking more like the Klitschko brothers. The US is the modern day Sodom and Gomorrah while Christianity triumphs in Russia. No ACLU in Russia suing Christians to be sure.”

    Read more: http://freedomoutpost.com/2013/06/russian-paper-says-weak-eyed-obama-is-leader-of-sodom-gomorrah-following-g8-summit/#ixzz2WxaHc3p7
    I hope this is true, because wherever Christianity triumphs is good! China though? One of the biggest persecutors of Christians is their ally? I’m getting dizzy.

  49. SueQ…..Do you think we may be living in the wrong country now days…everything you say is true…but what should we expect when we have a full fledged MUSLIM sitting in the White House.

    It’s as if Russian and the USA have just switched roles in the world in the past 10 years….but I’m sure there are a lot of thiings about Russia that we don’t know and they won’t tell….

  50. Good afternoon Oldsailor81……..

    Like you say, ….if it looks like feces, and smells like feces………its almost a 100% chance it is feces….thats exactly why flies are attracted to “the anointed ONE”…..feces makes a good breeding ground for more flies.

  51. The incompetence of liberals at its finest. Waste, fraud, and abuse define liberalism.
Check it out:

    The Internal Revenue Service sent 23,994 tax refunds worth a combined $46,378,040 to “unauthorized” alien workers who all used the same address in Atlanta, Ga., in 2011, according to the Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration (TIGTA).
    The IRS sent 11,284 refunds worth a combined $2,164,976 to unauthorized alien workers at a second Atlanta address; 3,608 worth $2,691,448 to a third; and 2,386 worth $1,232,943 to a fourth.

    Read more: http://conservativebyte.com/2013/06/irs-sent-46m-in-refunds-to-23k-illegals-at-1-atlanta-address/#ixzz2WxlzK1cn

  52. bob strauss

    SueQ, Another good speech from a man faithful to his oath.

    Did you see Hannity on FOX last night, and his “American” guests?

    The Speech That Rocked Virginia

    E.W. Jackson’s vision, inspired and united Richmond, and his words have rocked Virginia.


  53. bob strauss

    VIDEO: Jennifer Burke, Black Tea Party Activist, ‘Schools’ the Left http://bit.ly/1c7LcTk

  54. Whistleblower
  55. Bob,

    I didnt see Hannity. Thanks for posting the link to the video. I heard Jackson interviewed on a local station, and apearanly he got in trouble for his views on gay marriage. He is a Christian pastor afterall. He was not at all hateful towards gays……….he merely stated his beliefs, and did so quite well. He didn’t back down. We will see what happens here in good old Virginia. Northern Va is quite bloated population wise thanks to close proximity to the federal govt., therefor quite liberal. The rest of us wish we could just cut them loose. They have far too much power over the rest of the state.

  56. Cabbyaz….you said,
    “The IRS sent 11,284 refunds worth a combined $2,164,976 to unauthorized alien workers at a second Atlanta address; 3,608 worth $2,691,448 to a third; and 2,386 worth $1,232,943 to a fourth”

    This is what I have been raising hell about around April 15 this year here on CW……it goes much deeper than this……in 2008, the IRS has sent over 5 BILLION dollars ( maybe by now, 2013, as much as 9 BILLION) ) in tax returns to Mexican alien working here in America and claiming dependents
    ( aunts, uncles, neices, and nephews) who LIVE in Mexico and have NEVER set foot on American soil…

    No one in a position of authority can give me a logical answer as to why this exist, and why they are permitted to rob our treasury like this. If you or I, or any other LEGAL citizen did this, we would be thrown in jail and the key thrown away !.

    The IRS knows about this scam for years according to RUSSELL GEORGE, the IRS Inspector General,but does nothing !!!…..my question is: Just why in the hell does any legal American citizen pay any taxes with such a criminal cabal in charge?..

    This crap makes me so mad that I could eat a pound of nails ! This is just another way they have found to “give our country away”. Just thinking about all the stuff that is going on in our country today and knowing that it’s done INTENTIONALLY, is enough to think 1776 again.

    And what a joke when the Congressional Budget Office tries to tell the American people that legalizing 20 million illegal Mexicans will result in a budget surplus of 197 BILLION dollars over 10 years. PURE BULL….

    The government plans to legalize over 15 million ILLEGAL aliens and then lets divide 197 billion by 1o…We get 19 Billion a year in surplus…Now lets divide 19 billion by 15 million aliens……bad math, bad math… I think…….We should be asking ; how many grandparents, other relatives now living in Mexico/other third world countries will be “Coming to America”

    Anyone who thinks America is going to come out on the winning side by this immigration legalization crap of all the aliens in the US, come and see me, I have a bridge in San Francisco I would like to sale you..real cheap.

    As I see it cabbyaz,;
    Within 10 years, America will be no better than a South American Banana Republic ( without the republic)…if even at that level….We will most likely be deep into Marxist/Communist rule with no MONEY, no FREEDOM, no HOPE or opportunity for CHANGE.

    God help us… and may God condemn those who have brought this plague upon our nation to the eternal fires of hell…….

  57. I sometimes wonder if Jesus was referring to big government when he made this statement………..

    “Wherever there is a carcass, there the vultures will gather.” Matthew 24:28

  58. CW et al.,

    I agree it becomes a wonderful thought for many ‘insiders” to speak out on what they know pertaining to Obama. However, due to the mass flooding of misinformation by the Obots, I am highly suspicious unless there is verification of factual claims which are presentable to a court of law. Hearsay, pc generated documents, Xerox files supposedly sneaked out of work offices, pdfs or otherwise, have very little weight with me. Plausible? Of course. But factual verification is called for prior to myself jumping onboard.

    Just me being me and my 2 cents on this matter.

  59. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    Something to think about
    How about this scenario – If the natl. debt clock is right and divide the 300 million people in the population by the debt, you come up at around $50,000 per individual. If you want to leave the U.S. they will say you have to pay this off first. OR another thought – The government figures that the more we allow foreigners into the country then that will LOWER each individuals personal debt. A Catch 22!!

  60. On another note,

    OldSailor, RminNC, CW, Cabby,

    I was just a mere walking child during this time frame during the very early 60’s and you may know more about this than I. Have any of you ever of heard of “Operation Northwoods”? Google it if you haven’t.

    In brief, it was were our own Government PLANNED on KILLING mass American Citizens in an Attack and then Blamed it on Cuba! It was not exposed until the 90’s. Think about that for a moment.

    Our own Government, willing to slaughter U.S. American Men, Women and their Children; murder them – and blame Cuba, for control of a political issue and cause. Have these redundant bastards of less than 600 not learned they themselves are not the majority and civil consequences associated with such decisions once discovered by the 350 million Citizens? This is far beyond a risk factor, this is lynching and shoe hanging upside down in public view.

    Is this why they think they can get away with such notions as “Fast and Furious”? Plan, then blame, in order to gain control?

    All I can repeat is the wise words of Elmer Fudd. Be “wary wary careful” if you’re hunting American Citizens for political gain; we are more armed than the less 600 people calling the shots including the appointed officials, FBI NSA and another combination thereof in administration. And in the South, we say there ain’t no hole or swamp you can hide in once you piss us off, we know where they are too!

  61. Mr. Bill,

    Did you see over at the ORYR website of the laws in the immigration bill that forgive criminal acts in order to obtain legal status? All American citizens must face the criminal crimes, not illegals.

  62. William….

    Oh yes…that damn near got us into a real war with Russia..

    It was false flag operation hatched up in 1962 by Lymon Lemnitzer, then Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and with the approval of all the Chiefs of Staff………..It was presented to John Kennedy, who knew nothing of the planning or approval stages of this false flag operation that was supposed to have killed innocent Americans and blame it on Cuba….that was to be our excuse to invade Cuba…..it was planned with the knowledge of the CIA Director then, John Foster Dulles who later sat on the board investigating Kennedy’s murder in Texas….,

    When Kennedy found out about this illegal operation, he fired John Foster Dulles, Lemnitzer, and a lot more people. The plan was suppose to have been conducted sometime around June or July of 1962….It didn’t, thank God.

    I was stationed at Fort Hood, Texas as a 1st Lt. of Infantry when Kennedy was assassinated in Dallas on 22 Nov 1963. I will never forget that day. Americans will never know just how close we came WWIII by that murder.It is interesting to note that Johnson appointed all of Kennedy’s enemies to investigate the assassination. Thats kinda like asking the fox to guard the chicken house. There is no doubt in my mind, that Lyndon banes Johnson behind that murder and l was the fall guy….but thats another story.

    Back to Northwoods……here is the complete OPERATIONAL ORDER as it was presented to Kennedy…
    I hope this opens up…I have another post of Northwoods for you.

  63. this….”no doubt in my mind, that Lyndon banes Johnson behind that murder and l was the fall guy….but thats another story.”

    should read….”Oswell was the fall guy”…my keyboard is dropping letts…sorry.

  64. William…for your info…

  65. RMinNC,

    I have to run to the store for a bit, but will get back with you. I have a question or 2 I would like to ask.

  66. I should have said “not born yet”. LOL.. I was 3 days old when Kennedy was murdered.

  67. To explain further my reference to Mat.24:28, lest you think I’m kinda nuts…..

    Government (the carcass), whether federal, state or local, seems to attract opportunists and liberal control freaks as well as special interest groups and all the “hanger ons” (vultures). It’s the nature of the beast. Conservatives who just want to be left alone, (ie. those who just want to provide for, and raise their families) never seem to get involved unless it reaches a crisis point, which it has.

    Some conservatives, once elected, sell out. Others who don’t are intimidated into silence. This is my estimation of that scripture for what it’s worth…..which probably isn’t much.

    On a side note, (this is a true story), 10 years ago I was out in a field with my grandson. He was only 18 months old. With me also was my dog, a German Shepard. Out of the corner of my eye, I saw a large bird take a dive bomb towards my grandson. In an instant, my dog caught the bird in mid-air and snapped its neck. I looked on in shock as I saw…on the ground…….just feet away, this huge bird of prey, it’s head severed. My dog saved my grandson’s life. Only God could have arranged that. I thank Him every day.

    Thanks for letting me ramble.

  68. SueQ….

    your post always makes sense to me and everyone else on here…and yes God is a very strong factor in everyone’s life, regardless if they know it or not……

    Ramble on SueQ…ramble on……we like it..

  69. Thanks, RM

  70. bob strauss

    This is good! Finally someone tells the truth about the Usurper and Michelle.

    Obama Called “Hypocrite Of The Century” In Irish Parliament


  71. SueQ,

    Some things – we simply can’t explain away. For anyone to deny a higher existence is beyond questionable. In my opinion (and experience) luck only goes so far before it becomes statistical anomaly.

  72. Hey Bob,

    Long time no see friend!

    You do know its back to summer again, and of course back to swimming, which also means I have to make the “speedo” jokes – again… 🙂

  73. CW,

    Can you please give my personal email address to RMinNC, of course if he agrees.

  74. CW…I have no problem with Williams request….


    you said you has a couple of questions of me….fire away.

  75. bob strauss

    William | June 22, 2013 at 5:07 pm |

    Hey Bob,

    Long time no see friend!

    You do know its back to summer again, and of course back to swimming, which also means I have to make the “speedo” jokes – again… 🙂
    Oh nooooooooo!

  76. Bob,

    In reality and real time, I am about to get out to the pool and kick-back. I have some Southern smoothness to assist with relaxation and a friend named Jack. A couple of bands I will put on in the background called Bob Seger, Lynyrd Skynyrd and Jimmy Buffet.

    But due to the recent weight gain since last summer, my speedo doesn’t fit and require a loose swimming trunk. But just for you Bob, I’ll take a deep breath, hold in the fat gut and put on the speedo for today in soprano style, while throwing on hot oil greased up on this White body to tan….


    I miss the days of messing with Bob..

  77. Question,

    How do you fit 270 pounds into a size 7 speedo?

    I don’t know either, but about to try it.

  78. Hush SueQ,

    🙂 Just thought of something, SueQ knows I’m not 270.. LOL.. Can’t lie and get away with it… Too many know me here… LOL

  79. Mums the word, William,

    Take care and have a great weekend.

  80. RMinNC,

    One perhaps is not a question, but rather to inform. As you know from past comments of mine pertaining to my youngest son in ROTC, now a 1st Lt., I showed him (with some regret) the video you posted with the Syrian General. I am very adamant about not breaking his military dreams, but also as his dad, introducing him to reality – as a protection for consideration.

    The question I had alternatively to that was one of wonder. Have you ever had the chance to read all the Federalist Papers? You know how the Obots claim British law, common law – whereby “Subject” also means the same thing as “Citizens” ect.? I did an analysis on this a few years ago and will send it to you, as well as all the references I researched. It’s worth having.

    Additional question was a friendly one. How did dinner go last night after the Cowboy video? 🙂 As my wife questions me from time-to-time; do you ever feel like a piece of meat? Yep, is always my response. 🙂

  81. SueQ,

    You to hun, take care, love ya.

  82. Off to the pool for awhile. Jack and I have an appointment, which he has started an hour ago ahead of me.. 🙂

    If I am speaking Chinese in a couple of hours, forgive me…

  83. William…
    Dinner went well…dropped a hundred+bucks, but made the wife happy….as far as your comment about feeling like a piece of meat…I’m far past that stage….just trying to get along to get along….

    I take you you liked the” Giddy Up and Giddy Gone” video…I thought it was cute…and it added a little color to the party…lol

    The Federalist papers…ah yes…I have read with amazement…some people in the US think we are still subjects of the “crown” which has nothing to do with the British monarchy, as you know…….thats the banking system thats running the world currency…some say even the Federal Reserve……well if they are, they are doing a pis*-poor job of it.

  84. I’m going to trash this damn computer…it’s adding words…dropping letters, and all kinds of crazy things….sorry folks.

  85. All I have to say is…………

  86. RMinNc…..don’t toss the computer, just get a new keyboard…..it’s cheaper. 😉

  87. Ditto hapnHal!

  88. Thanks THISTLE and hapnHAL….guess that tells you how much I know about these 21st Century machines……..

  89. RMinNC. I have the same problem. I have bashed my keyboard so much that keys are “sticky.” But, there is another problem – the “adding words, dropping letters, etc is because the NSA is watching every key stroke you take. It is like te “echo on a phone,” or driving lessons where you “are at the wheel,” but the other guy ( the instructor, that´s how they do it here in Europe) actually has the controls, remotely. One is a “simple key.board

  90. …..problem. The other is not. the minute i typed NSA here, it started. Go to my Facebook page, watch the videos about it. Madeleine De Larrain Ross. Good luck. God bless. Stay safe. These peope are bastards. I´m Irish. They don´t frighten me. They make me angry.

  91. This week-end is the 17th Tammuz in the Jewish Calendar. Look up the significance. Youtube will not let me post videos again to my channel, madeleine7, or to my Facebook Page, Madeleine De Larrain Ross

  92. http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/humble_hero_an_army_of_one_ccqcXGajsrui0A06YZ978H Damn. Sgt. 1st Class Dillard Johnson is the deadliest US soldier on record – with 2,746 kills

  93. citizenwells

    Good morning Zach, et al.

  94. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    Good article Zach, but scares the he11 out of me!

  95. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)


    In the 1957 movie “A Night To Remember” about the sinking of the Titantic, there is a scene with the Captain and the ship’s builder. They decide that since the first 5 water-tight compartment have been breached, the ship was doomed and we all know what happened. Many years later after the wreck had been found there was much speculation about what could have been done. It was determined nothing could have been done except that they could have slowed down the sinking, thus giving more time for more rescue ships to arrive. This could be done by opening the remainder compartments thereby allowing the ship to sink in a more level and slower way, giving more time to rescue more survivors. I think our Government has decided that our country is like the Titantic and they are going to spend all they can before we sink and like “rats on a sinking ship” they will grab all they can for themselves. Have a good day.

    PS – Sean Connery had a minor roll as a crewman handing out life preservers.

  96. Something not right as I suspected,

    It’s just to damn convenient for Snowden to move around. As I first said when this news broke out, watch out for Russia getting their hands on him. And what just happened? Russia bound….

    More importantly, he used his real name to book the flight? If the CIA and FBI knew I was in Hong Kong (only 1 major airport) and was looking for me, you would think the Airport is the place to secure! But that didn’t happen and he used his real name to book the flight! He is not hiding, he is in plain sight.

    Which leads me to my next conclusion. Snowden, an ardent Obama supporter, didn’t think of this on his own, Obama is behind this. Otherwise, we would have captured the traitor at the Only Airport Hong Kong has. He didn’t slip through the cracks, evade or anything else. He simply used his own name to book a flight, walked in the airport, boarded the plain, no disguise or fake mustache, no fake papers, just walked in plain sight.

    How is that possible if we are truly out to capture him? It’s not!

  97. CW,

    Did you get the memo of sharing my email with RMinNC?

    RMinNC, if CW sent it to you, shoot me an email,

  98. Plane, not plain.. LOL.. sorry

  99. Good morning …or good afternoon Madaline DeLarrin Ross in Ireland !!!

    Welcome to CitizenWells….I’m also Irish/Scotch and they don’t scare me either….I have said a million times that I would rather die fighting on my feet than to cower on my knees for the rest of my life as a slave…….

    We always like to have new people with conservative points of view and a logical mind to present them come on CW’s website…..there is no doubt in my mind that the NSA is tracking me because those who post here at CW know that I’m very outspoken and at times, “let it all hang out”…..

    I’m outspoken because I love my country and it hurts like hell to see it “going to the dogs” under this current bunch of criminals we have in charge….

    Would you mind giving us here at CW, your opinion on the recent visit of Obama to your country last week ?….. Our media write of him as some kind of Savior…….of course those who have been keeping up with his time in office know better, we prefer to refer to him as a Chicago criminal…….

    Thanks for the advice on my computer problem…I will get another keyboard today….

    also thanks to THISTLE…..(by the way, thats the national flower of Scotland, isn’t it?)….

    I’m doubly cursed…lol….I’m a lot of Irish with a wee bit of Scotch in my blood lines…but you can bet your boots that I’m All-American… through and through….

    Again, welcome and keep posting, we like to hear opinions of those who do not live in America…it helps us in deciding how to approach our problems here at home…….again thanks and “welcome aboard”…..

  100. “A Night to Remember” – Full Movie

  101. Mr. Bill(ms. helga) Scares the hell out of me too. I hope Sen. Paul, Atty. Klayman, ACLU, etc. will join forces and file a major class action suit. I’m sure millions would join if they thought it was a serious effort. I would.

  102. Hold on a minute WILLIAM…let me go check my mail before I go to church and ask the good LORD to forgive me for whatever I have done bad this week….which couldn’t have been very much…lol

    Be right back.


    Please give me WILLIAM’s email address, we need to communicate…he is requesting this and I have no objections….

    WILLIAM…..no he hasn’t posted it to my email as of now…
    …if he does post it this morning, I will contact you when back from church…..

  104. William @ 8:49.

    I am not saying you are wrong, but how would it be to Obama’s advantage to facilitate Snowden’s departure from Hong Kong? It makes him look even weaker than he already appears. Especially after so many on both sides (did you see how Pelosi got heckled by leftists for saying Snowden broke the law?) have declared Snowden a traitor.

    This seems to be an issue (privacy) that truly unites both sides……..both pro and against. Strange.

  105. @RMinNC. I loved Clare Daly´s rant against Obama She was right on, talking about the Irish “slobbering” over him. I have lived in Spain for 50 years ( well, it wll be in January). Michelle Obama and her friends spent that super expensive holiday here in Marbella. I read this site every day, have done for years. I can´t wait to get obummer out. He is a danger to te World. Spanish police have picked up Jihadi kiles here, “On their way to Syria.”

  106. NSA are playing games again…! “kiles” should be “killers.” We have a joint US/Spanish base at Rota. 550 SEALS have just been flown in, “just in case.” Thank you for your service. We would have been speaking German in Europe if you Americans had not come to help us ( more than that!) in both World Wars. God bless.

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