Yes Florida there is a sanity clause, Judges may be removed from office by impeachment, Judicial qualifications commission, Judge Kevin Carroll removal, Leon County circuit court

Yes Florida there is a sanity clause, Judges may be removed from office by impeachment, Judicial qualifications commission, Judge Kevin Carroll removal, Leon County circuit court

“Why has Obama, since taking the White House, used Justice Department Attorneys, at taxpayer expense,  to avoid presenting a legitimate birth certificate and college records?”…Citizen Wells

“Why do state election officials continue to ignore the US Constitution, federal election code and their own state election statutes?”…Citizen Wells

“Why does a judge swear to discharge his duties agreeably to the constitution of the United States, if that constitution forms no rule for his government? if it is closed upon him, and cannot be inspected by him?”… Marbury versus Madison

Judge Kevin Carroll, a Leon County Florida Circuit Court Judge, recently dismissed an Obama eligibility case. Judge Carroll made reference to a fictional ruling on Santa Clause in the movie “Miracle on 34th Street.”

I have a Sanity Clause ruling for Judge Carroll.

Removal from office.

In Florida there are 2 ways to remove a judge:

1. On the recommendation of the judicial qualifications commission, the supreme court may discipline, retire, or remove a judge.

2. Judges may be impeached by a two-thirds vote of the house of representatives and convicted by a two-thirds vote of the senate.

From WND December 22, 2012.

Cites paraphrased decision in ‘Miracle on 34th Street’ in Florida Democrat’s challenge”

“A real-life Florida judge has paraphrased a statement from the fictional Judge Henry X. Harper in “Miracle on 34th Street” to justify his sudden decision to dismiss a challenge under state law to Barack Obama’s eligibility to occupy the Oval Office.

The ruling from Kevin Carroll of the Florida circuit court for Leon County dismissed the case brought on behalf of Democratic voter Michael C. Voeltz, who raised the issue of Obama’s qualifications under a state law that allows voters to challenge candidates’ eligibility.

Carroll, who had given the plaintiffs until Dec. 23 to respond to Obama’s motion to dismiss the case, changed his mind and abruptly Thursday ordered the case dismissed.

He explained that the fact the government says Obama is qualified to be president is more than enough for him.

“This court notes that President Obama lives in the White House. He flies on Air Force One. He has appeared before Congress, delivered State of the Union addresses and meets with congressional leaders on a regular basis. He has appointed countless ambassadors to represent the interests of the United States throughout the world,” Carroll wrote.

“As this matter has come before the court at this time of the year it seems only appropriate to paraphrase the ruling rendered by the fictional Judge Henry X. Harper from New York in open court in the classic holiday film ‘Miracle on 34th St.’ ‘Since the United States Government declares this man to be president, this court will not dispute it. Case dismissed.’”

It was the second time in eligibility cases that a judge appears to have abandoned legal fundamentals and simply ruled for Obama on no particular basis.

Several years ago it was Judge James Robertson in Washington who dismissed a case because, he wrote, “The issue of the president’s citizenship was raised, vetted, blogged, texted, twittered, and otherwise massaged by America’s vigilant citizenry during Mr. Obama’s two-year campaign for the presidency.”

Carroll’s ruling also did not address the fact that in the movie, the judge was determining that a resident of a nursing home hired to play Santa Claus at a Macy’s store was, in fact, Santa Claus. His ‘proof” was a pile of mail addressed to Santa Claus that the post office delivered to him, confirming his identity.

Attorney Larry Klayman, representing Voeltz in the case, immediately responded with a motion for rehearing, contending that the judge “prematurely and precipitously” dismissed the complaint without a hearing as outlined under state law.

“This act also flies in the face of this court’s own order of Dec. 13, 2012, which was law of the case,” noted Klayman, founder of FreedomWatchUSA.

“This court had a statutory duty under the Florida Election laws, the Florida and U.S. Constitutions, and 3 U.S.C. Section 5, to adjudicate defendant Obama’s eligibility and his alleged fraudulent acts expeditiously, timely, and before the electors met on Dec. 17, 2012, and before the Electoral College votes on Jan. 6, 2013, Klayman explained. “Thus, this court also violated these law is dismissing the complaint summarily.”

Klayman suggested to the court its order “at a minimum creates an appearance that it simply jettisoned this case not only on the extrajudicial and non-legal premise that President Obama was president during the prior four year term, and has already performed many ‘presidential’ acts but also because this court did not want to be ‘inconvenienced’ by holding an evidentiary hearing.”

Klayman also questioned Carroll’s “off-the-cuff” remarks about a friend being appointed to a federal post by Obama as inappropriate.

He said the remarks about fictional judge Henry X. Harper in “Miracle on 34th St.” also were “inappropriate” and showed “a mindset simply to rid the court of this case.”

“This court seems to want to sidestep having to reach these serious and important matters before it,” Klayman said.

Klayman is seeking a rehearing and an evidentiary hearing in the dispute. He’s also seeking a temporary restraining order to halt the delivery of the Florida electoral votes to Obama until the court case is resolved.

He has submitted evidence by way of a sworn statement from Investigator Mike Zullo of Sheriff Joe Arpaio’s Cold Case Posse in Arizona that there probably were two crimes committed in the creation and display of Obama’s long-form birth certificate, which was released by the White House and posted online.

Zullo’s testimony is that forgery was used to create the document, and fraud was used in “presenting to the residents of Maricopa County and to the American public at large a forgery the White House represents as “proof positive” of President Obama’s” birth documentation.

Arpaio’s affidavit also was presented to the judge.

The sheriff said: “My investigators and I believe that President Obama’s long-form birth certificate is a computer-generated document, was manufactured electronically, and that it did not originate in a paper format, as claimed by the White House. … There is probable cause that the document is a forgery.”

Klayman has argued that Obama “has never established his eligibility for the presidency of the United States … the only evidence of defendant Obama’s alleged birth within the United States has come in the form of a belatedly filed electronic version of a claimed long-form birth certificate posted on the Internet.”

He told the judge that the evidence suggests, however, the document is fraudulent.

The case claims that should the judge not address the facts, the plaintiff “can never be made whole again.”

“If defendant Obama is found to be ineligible, which is likely to happen since there is no evidence … Obama was born in the United States to U.S. citizen parents, the plaintiff’s vote in the 2012 presidential election will be nullified.”

He suggested state law calls for an expedited hearing in such cases.

Carroll, however, said the state of Florida does not have jurisdiction to “determine the issue of qualification for the office of president of the United States, particularly at this late date in the process.”

His comments came after another challenge filed by Voeltz earlier this year was dismissed because the judge ruled it couldn’t be addressed until after the election.”

“Klayman said he also will be trying to go directly to the Florida Supreme Court if Carroll does not reconsider.

“It’s truly ‘remarkable’ and an affront to the rule of law and all our founding fathers and colonial America fought and risked and gave their lives for. This type of conduct by the establishment, which thinks it can do as it pleases without consequences, is why we have entered into a revolutionary state 236 years after we declared independence from the king. They will soon from We the People learn that there are consequences,” he said.

Read more:

Judge Kevin Carroll is either biased, incompetent or insane or some combination and should be removed.

Florida’s Sanity Clause.

Florida House of Representatives.

“The Governor, Lieutenant Governor, members of the Cabinet, justices of the Supreme Court, and judges may be removed from office by impeachment. The House of Representatives has the sole power to impeach. It may do so by a two-thirds vote of the members voting. The Senate tries all impeachments, with the Chief Justice of the Florida Supreme Court presiding. A two-thirds vote of the Senate is required to convict. If convicted, the officer is removed from office.”

Florida 2011 Court Reform.

“What the Joint Resolution Does:

House Joint Resolution 7111 proposes a Constitutional Amendment to
address reforms to Florida’s court system. The Joint Resolution passed the
Florida House with a vote of 80-38 on May 3, 2011, and later passed the
Senate with a vote of 24-11 on May 5, 2011. Among other things, the Joint

“As the body responsible for judicial impeachment proceedings,
grants the Speaker of the Florida House of Representatives, at his
or her request, access to the complaint files of the Judicial
Qualifications Commission at any time. The bill requires the
complaint files be kept confidential until the information is used in
the pursuit of impeachment.”

Florida Code of Judicial Conduct.

For the State of Florida
Online Version

Reports of misconduct by judges must be made to the Judicial Qualifications Commission at (850) 488-1581.

Print the Entire Code of Judicial Conduct in PDF.

The opinions of the Judicial Ethics Advisory Committee
are available on the Sixth Judicial Circuit Website.
Visit the web site to search the opinions.



Canon 1. A Judge Shall Uphold the Integrity and Independence of the Judiciary

Canon 2. A Judge Shall Avoid Impropriety and the Appearance of Impropriety in all of the Judge’s Activities

Canon 3. A Judge Shall Perform the Duties of Judicial Office Impartially and Diligently

Canon 4. A Judge Is Encouraged to Engage in Activities to Improve the Law, the Legal System, and the Administration of Justice

Canon 5. A Judge Shall Regulate Extrajudicial Activities to Minimize the Risk of Conflict With Judicial Duties

Canon 6. Fiscal Matters of a Judge Shall be Conducted in a Manner That Does Not Give the Appearance of Influence or Impropriety; etc.

Canon 7. A Judge or Candidate for Judicial Office Shall Refrain From Inappropriate Political Activity”

Mission of the Florida Judicial Branch.

“The mission of the judicial branch is to protect rights and liberties, uphold and interpret the law, and provide for the peaceful resolution of disputes.

Vision of the Florida Judicial Branch
Justice in Florida will be accessible, fair, effective, responsive, and accountable.

To be accessible, the Florida justice system will be convenient, understandable, timely, and affordable to everyone.

To be fair, it will respect the dignity of every person, regardless of race, class, gender or other characteristic, apply the law appropriately to the circumstances of individual cases, and include judges and court staff that reflect the community’s diversity.

To be effective, it will uphold the law and apply rules and procedures consistently and in a timely manner, resolve cases with finality, and provide enforceable decisions.

To be responsive, it will anticipate and respond to the needs of all members of society, and provide a variety of dispute resolution methods.

To be accountable, the Florida justice system will use public resources efficiently, and in a way that the public can understand.”

Procedures for filing a complaint.

Judge Kevin Carroll Ruling.

Click to access 12CA3857.pdf

81 responses to “Yes Florida there is a sanity clause, Judges may be removed from office by impeachment, Judicial qualifications commission, Judge Kevin Carroll removal, Leon County circuit court

  1. There is a picture of robbieparker. The actor who faked crying before he talked about his daughter being killed. Hes holding his other daughter the weird thing is she has a masonic hand signal with her hands in her mouth and just her eye showing. This sandy hook psyh opps keeps geting deeper

  2. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    Does anyone remember the line from one of the funniest movies ever made -The Producers- “If you got it,flaunt it!!”??

  3. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    And by the miracle of youtube –

  4. dualer’s comment at wtpotus:

    “The judges in Florida are absolutely praetorian guards of the Usurper and the Criminal Congress, and Carroll even has the nerve to threaten me w/ sanctions. I have filed a proper election complaint, to the letter of the law, challenging the “nomination or election of ANY PERSON to office (Fl. ss. 102.168(1), based on that person’s ELIGIBILITY for the office sought (Fl. ss. 102.168(3)(b)). The action has been filed timely (within 10 days after the final certification of the election by the Elections Canvassing Commission). The Fla. ECC has certified that “Barack Obama and Joe Biden (DEM) was elected President of the United States” (ECC certificate) as of November 20, 2012, and this action was filed and served by November 29, 2012. The action enjoins the ECC as an indispensible party, and is filed in the correct venue of Leon Co. Circuit Court (Fl. ss. 102.1685).

    This action CANNOT BE DISMISSED for “want of form” (Fl. ss. 102.168(5)), and plaintiff is entitled to “AN IMMEDIATE HEARING” (Fl. ss. 102.168(7).
    3 US Code 5 stipulates that ALL ELECTION CONTESTS should be determined w/ finality by 6 days prior to the meeting of electors (Dec. 11), BY THE JUDICIAL TRIBUNAL assigned by the state, or the Electors’ vote shall NOT BE CONCLUSIVE. Since ELIGIBILITY is a proper cause of action, according to the laws of Fla., of an election contest, then ELIGIBILITY must be ascertained by the judicial tribunal (Leon Co. Circuit Court, then Appeals, then Supreme) assigned by the legislature of 6 days prior to the elector meeting— and the judiciary made NO DETERMINATION, and illegally dismissed a proper contest of election.

    Judge Carrol’ls “ruling” flies directly in the face of the law that he purports to represent. Now I realize that I am arguing a defunct law, since the putative President, who is the executor of the laws, is illegal, then there is no law, and no constititution. There is only the rule of evil men. But I will make them ALL lie, all the way to the top. History will know the criminals that sold out the Republic.”

  5. Mario Apuzzo:

    “The Florida Courts Say that If Anyone Can Be Santa Claus, Barack Obama Can Be President”

    “Circuit Judge, Kevin J. Carroll, of the Circuit Court of the Second Judicial Circuit in Leon County, Florida, has abruptly dismissed the state Obama eligibility case of Michael C. Voeltz v. Barack Hussein Obama (Case No. 2012-CA-3857). Judge Carroll had given the plaintiffs until December 23, 2012 to respond to Obama’s motion to dismiss the case. But he then changed his mind and on Thursday issued an order dismissing the case.”

  6. Another possibility, CW, other than “biased, incompetent or insane.” The judge could be plain scared. We don’t know how people are being threatened “in the interest of national security” behind the scenes.

    I’m glad to see in this article, however, that the Electors don’t vote until January 6th. I had thought it was on December 17th and that it was a done deal. But they met on December 17th and vote on January 6th, as this article points out. So, the powers that be may still be able to force Obama’s removal before the 6th of January.

    They’ve got to be figuring it out by now–way before now. They (the CIA) created a monster–Obama and the Muslim Brotherhood of today (not to mention Obama’s Shiite preferences). Even Hillary Clinton has got to see that by now. (That is probably why she got such a bad stomach ache and went on to bump her head, giving herself a concussion.)

  7. Another thought: Judge Carroll, quoting from Miracle on 34th Street, may be hinting at what a farce the whole thing is. It might be he is being sarcastic. The Company has threatened him in some manner and his only way to give us a hint is by such a silly remark.

    Or, if he is a real Southerner, he may be retreating in order to fight another day. He may have something else up his sleeve. Or, the powers that be may have told him they intend to remove Obama by other means, so please step aside. Thus his remark was intended as irony.

    How else do we explain his sudden change of mind?

  8. DeanM……………….
    The word”Maybe” has no intrinsic meaning. Like the word “PERHAPS” which also has no real meaning. Both refer to each other and suggest a speculative sense to anything in which the words are used. Either Carroll has violated the law of our land or he has not. If he dismissed a case which by law should have been heard AS PER THE LAW then he has clearly committed an IMPEACHABLE OFFENSE, against the law of our land. The only remaining question is whether the state of Florida will bring any charges against him. If he is ONE OF THE GOOD OLE BOYS he will never be charged with anything. It is easy to see through the fog and see the bigger picture. Soetoro is the PAYMASTER of ALL federal JUDGES,and all other judges(by proxy) whether they sit on a state or even local bench they WILL FOLLW SUITE. So once again I say that the only remaining option is for ALL PATRIOTS to unite to a national force of 150,000,000 then GO TO WHERE THE PROBLEM is and PHYSICALLY CLEAN HOUSE. Before going there you need to hire a GARROTE MAKER,and commission about 5000 garrotes to be made and ready for service. Take the example of the Neurenburg trials. The results are always positive.

  9. If the Florida court uses such insanity as a basis for reasoning then the judges have a mental condition which would interfere with their ability to reason logically. Such incompetency would certainly be adequate grounds for their removal via impeachment.

  10. Jack Cashill:

    “Obama Has to Fib Even at a Funeral”

    “Yes, everything is about Barack Obama. From the beginning, he has built his career on his own personal story, and the funeral service of former Hawaiian Senator Daniel Inouye at the National Cathedral on Friday apparently struck him as an opportune time to remind the world what that story was. In his 1,600-word oration, Obama even managed to work in the fact, as though someone in the universe might not have heard, that he had “a white mom [and] a black father” “and was raised in Indonesia and Hawaii.”
    The problem, however, is not just that Obama used the word “my” 21 times, “me” 12 times, and “I” 30 times in the course of telling his story, but rather that even at a funeral, he could not keep the story straight.

    Post-re-election, reporters allow Obama to spin with impunity. They no longer seem worried that someone of the right will scoop them. They are confident that their media pals would ignore the scoop as well. They know that as long as they control the headlines, there can be no new Watergate — and Obama is beginning to sense it, too.”

  11. Dean M.
    I still lump scared under incompetent or insane.

  12. Gordo………………
    I would have to include the word STUPID with your comment. Yes he is probably the most ARROGANT BASTARD on EARTH, but within his SELF ADMIRATION,and INDULGENCE lies an OCEAN OF STUPIDITY.

  13. CW………..
    I have to agree with that assessment, because if a JUDGE IS SCARED, in my book he would be incompetent,and otherwise incapable of sound reasoning.

  14. I say we all take a break from Dick Tater and enjoy this wonderful holiday that celebrates the birth of our dear Savior. Turn on some sweet music and enjoy your family and friends.

    Dick is out of town for now, on his 4th “winter” vacation extravaganza since taking office. And he’s about as far away as you can get, so relax…. for a little while.

    Have a very MERRY CHRISTMAS to ALL at CW’s. God bless you all.

  15. SueQ.

  16. I have a certain belief that before we are ever able to get anywhere in the restoration of Constitutional government certain people are going to have to be made into PUBLIC EXAMPLES. PERHAPS at some point we will find it necessary to resort to certain EARLY BRITISH MARITIME TRIBUNAL PRACTICES which were put in place to DETERR WANNABE pirates from attacking British Privateers. When a pirate was prosecuted he received a death sentence. He was hung from a high place along waters edge,and his body was left to hang and rot in PLAIN sight of all ships arriving and departing that particular port of call. I have never read any accounts of how effective the practice was,but it seems to be something which would make anybody of sound mind think a second time before breaking the law. But for America to resort to such a practice there would have to be a complete breakdown of CIVILITY,which would force us backwards to such an extent that such a practice would be necessary to humble our criminals. After all a PICTURE is worth a THOUSAND WORDS.

  17. This would be back to the days of Captain Bligh, and/or Lord Nelson, the latter who was the victor at Trafalger. The HMS Victory dwarfs our own “OLD IRONSIDES” (USS Constitution), and the Constitution has pea shooters when compared to the 104 deck rifles of the HMS Victory. But the INTELLIGENT USE OF ALL LETHAL FORCE must be the ORDER OF THE DAY,otherwise you have wasted your time, and resources in battling an enemy,and it is very likely that even though you are clearly the superior force YOU WLL BE DEFEATED. That is one of the principle reasons why the USS Constitution is still in commission.

  18. Goodday all…..Godbless!

  19. I have been reading all articles/comments at Citizenwells’ site daily, since 2008 & trust all the patriotic commentors, including CW, who have spoken “LOUD & CLEARLY” to ALL authorities – they have proven above & beyond the call of duty they have worked diligently to help save OUR great country. God bless each of you – My most favorite commentor on this site is OLDSAILOR80, aka Oldsalt79 – YOU SIR ARE A TRUE INSPIRATION FOR ME THESE LAST 4 YEARS.
    To: Regional Director, Edward Lynch,
    CC: General Paul E. Vallely – STANDUPAMERICA


    We respectfully request this notification is forwarded directly to General Paul Vallely ASAP because his email shows an error code. We are natural born, legal United States citizens; belong to the law enforcement family and have been following the obvious foreign invasion of our country four years now. Within these agonizing four years, we have wracked our brains trying to come up with a peaceful resolution to major compounding problems facing all legal United States citizens. Four years ago with World Net Daily’s assistance, 500,000 U.S. citizens signed a petition requesting ALL the proper authorities do an extensive investigation on a possible foreigner who publically uses the name Barack Hussein Obama. Including 60,000 letters by formal notification to SCOTUS. Millions of legal U.S. citizens have painfully become aware ALL authorities knew the truth prior to our citizens investigation. Millions of Americans have become aware our country is currently being run as a corporation since 1913 (meaning no eligible president) and is NOT being run strictly by OUR Constitution in the honorable manner as it should, like the former FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover did for almost 50 years. This Constitutional crisis has evolved and the communists elements have infiltrated all facets of “we the people” existence. Millions of legal U.S. citizens are currently still the majority in our country but this communist group is quickly allowing illegal’s to become legal and importing thousands more to intentionally outnumber us. “We The People” are extremely pleased Arizona Sheriff Joe Arpaio is leading the first solid criminal investigation on a possible usurper, namely Mr. B. H. Obama, aka Barry Soetoro (including several alias’s) Americans are also being told Obama worked for the CIA exactly like Osama Bin Laden (cover name Tim Osmond). This alone is an outrage.

    We trust General Paul Vallely, including anyone in his group and would truly appreciate an idea we have to be considered before this Constitutional crisis overwhelms our God given rights and the total destruction of America is completed. Communist disinformation operatives have stifled U.S. citizens rights to unite and organize in a peaceful manner by threatening anybody/everybody who dares question Usurper Obama who intentionally refuses to prove he is eligible to occupy our White House. We noticed there are numerous organizations, websites, etc. dedicated to peacefully resolving this crisis situation and to follow our U.S. Constitution but this is causing a splinter effect. “We The People” need a leader who shares our common goal, which will render the majority of God fearing honest, law abiding U.S. citizens united as ONE. If possible, could General Vallely post a petition to unite as ONE, ALL U.S. citizens who have been begging the proper authorities to listen to our cries to remain free? Due to the well established documented facts, the communist obama group have blatantly stolen the 2008/2012 elections, which means we only have until January 20, 2013 to gather a petition signed by millions of freedom loving Americans who choose to resist a communist dictator who has arrogantly purchased OUR White House.

    Thank you for considering this option,

  20. God bless you, oldsailor.

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  22. Dean M.
    I tend to be with you on your assessment of the ruling by Judge Carrol.
    What if….he might be kicking the can down the road so to speak, and possibly inviting impeachment which would, in effect, involve discovery concerning the associated pertinent facts forming the basis of this case. It might also reveal any coercion that might be underlying his decision…a legal vindication of sorts. I don’t believe any of these judges would want to go this alone…just a thought…

  23. I am back but only for a few moments. I simply want to offer a brief prayer for everyone….”Dear God we are but your children,and as such we need guidance from time to time. We turn to you because you are our last bastion of hope. I ask in your name will you please help everyone in America have a wonderful Christmas? You really have a lot on your plate,but we know that only you can provide miracles. We are all in DIRE need of many miracles. There are thousands of us who have turned our backs to you, maybe you can shine a light upon these people at Christmas time that they will see as the beacon of hope. I also ask that you cast a most heavenly Christmas upon everyone at CW blog. May everyone enjoy a beautiful,and heavenly Christmas……….from “OLDSAILOR”.

  24. Judge Carroll, is none of the above. He is not insane nor incompetent. He is part of the plan. When all realize this and note that there is no where to turn ,maybe then you will all understand that the nation has been over taken from within. You can keep on throwing money to the wind, writing your letters to a defunct congress, calling, ringing phones off the hook, march on, but it will bear no fruit. This has been in the works for a very long time and the installation of key players has been fulfilled. There is only one way out now. I do not suggest violence against anyone as they have suggested but, I fear this may come. When you have hoodlums running the streets, causing great harm to innocent, law abiding citizens and they are no longer held accountable to any laws, it is then a do or die situation. When one set of people are held above another it is then something of grave concern. When you have elected paid officials in all branches purposely ignoring the rules, laws,we have a state of emergency. I cannot at this time, after all that has come to pass, think with any rational mind it can end any other way.

  25. DEMOCRATIC OFFICIALS in Maryland, NJ, NY and Massachusetts Face Prison Time for Voter Fraud (Video)
    Posted by Jim Hoft on Sunday, December 23, 2012, 10:42 AM

    Remember this the next time some lib tells you there is no voter fraud…
    Several top Democratic officials in Maryland, New Jersey, New York and Massachusetts were charged or found guilty recently in separate voter fraud cases.

  26. Wow!! this is a must read!

  27. “Dick is out of town for now, on his 4th “winter” vacation extravaganza since taking office. And he’s about as far away as you can get, so relax…. for a little while. ”

    I wonder if there is some way we can convince HI to permanently keep their “native son?” I don’t want him back in my White House EVER……….

  28. Agree CA Warrior, I wish Mr. Tater would stay there.

  29. coldwarvet2 | December 23, 2012 at 2:45 pm |
    Dean M.
    I tend to be with you on your assessment of the ruling by Judge Carrol.
    Ditto. The first effect is “shock” over such an utterance from a judge, but upon reflection I can see where something happened to cause him to rather abruptly change his mind (unless it was a charade from the start). Then the absurdity of his ruling is in itself so ridiculous, so as, perhaps, to send a message, of sorts. It is a possibility.

    Another thought: IF there are those patriots in high places who are planning behind the scenes some sort of concerted action to repel and halt the destruction of our country, at this point it is very unlikely that we would know about it. Such plans could not be publicized by discussion, e.g., on the internet, any more than the military waging war can disclose beforehand its battle plans. Hope springs eternal.

  30. ——- everybody go to this website and do what mike suggests if you really want to bring the birth certificate issue to critical mass and force it back into the msm . mike is using the best and fastest way to spread to spread the word across the u. s. and even the world . he has come up with a way to by -pass the corrupted msm and expose the usurper .

  31. cabbyaz & coldwarvet2 —

    I just read where, indeed, the Electors were supposed to cast their ballots on December 17th but they are not counted in congress until the 6th of January. So, even though everyone has said Obama won, we really don’t know until the vote is counted. Some States may even be holding off. There is no stated penalty for that. Truth is, we don’t know what is going on behind the scenes.

    I just feel something “big” is going on. Judge Carroll may be in a very difficult position. What would you do in his place if someone from high up in the Federal Government told you Obama is going to be forced to resign to avoid impeachment and the Electors have been informed and will most likely choose Romney and Ryan?

    I know that sounds wild. But I can’t help but think the Benghazi affair has finished Obama. I think the one most upset is Hillary Clinton. Yes, she is a political Liberal, but there is patriotic, Conservative side to her in spite of the political path she has chosen. That came out when she said she would “obliterate Iran” if Iran used nukes against Israel.

    That is the big difference between Obama and Hillary. He is pro-Iran and truthfully hates Israel.

    Anyway, I note a hint of both sarcasm and irony in the judge’s reference to Miracle on 34th Street. He may also be praying for a miracle. If I am right, something very soon is going to “bust loose.” We must continue to pray. We all need God’s help.

  32. Dean M. | December 23, 2012 at 5:28 pm |

    I know that sounds wild. But I can’t help but think the Benghazi affair has finished Obama. I think the one most upset is Hillary Clinton. Yes, she is a political Liberal, but there is patriotic, Conservative side to her in spite of the political path she has chosen. That came out when she said she would “obliterate Iran” if Iran used nukes against Israel.


    I wish, I wish , I wish wish wish you were right. Lord I wish you were right! But you are wrong! Benghazi will not take down Obama. And the latest report proves Hillary doesn’t have a patriotic bone in her body! She blamed Ambassador Stevens for his own death….everyone but herself, Obama and Panetta. It was pathetic. Read it.

  33. BoB Strauss: That sure is interesting! Although I must admit, I got lost trying to understand all that I was reading. One thing did jump out at me.

    I have been watching the Gulen movement for awhile. There are a bunch of “Harmony Schools” (and others with same “innocuous” titles) opening up all over this country. Although there has been some reporting on them, the whole idea has not really caused much outrage. I really believe it is a movement towards brainwashing certain children into Islamist thinkings.

    Anyone interested can google it up or go here for a summary:

  34. I don’t know whether or not anyone has directly addressed the transformation of the US military, and what overall effect it might have should the military be asked to carry out an unlawful order to intervene in a civil armed conflict involving the political structure of the States and the States collectively. I might add that there is a vast difference between the term “insurrection” and “that of “armed rebellion”.
    If. for instance, the military is currently staffed (as cadre) with various social deviants, or those who hold the Constitution, as written, as invalid…what, then, does this represent to the balance of the civilian community? On the surface, the prospect of gays serving openly in the military seems as merely a liberal tact designed to further a simple political end….and, in essence, this is true, however….there could be, and most likely is, a far more sinister and far-reaching design in play here. Would not these people see us as the bigoted oppressors they have constantly been at war with anyway, and now would have a rather contorted justification for revenge? What about our law enforcement community? I know that it has begun a hard left shift here in my state and apparently so in many others as well.
    My feeling is this…similar to the moral issue behind the history of the Roman emporer “Caligula,” wherein it begs the question…”who will protect us from our protectors”?

  35. Here is nationwide map of these schools.

  36. HonorFirst | December 23, 2012 at 6:23 pm |

    BoB Strauss: That sure is interesting! Although I must admit, I got lost trying to understand all that I was reading.
    I had to read it twice myself.

    It seems our country is being stolen from us, and the usurper is the enemy.

  37. Dean M,

    Sorry if I sounded rude and confrontational. I’ve been having a bit of a rough time. Forgive please. Happy Hanuka friend. God bless you.

  38. Coward of the Month, Judge Kevin J. Carroll GETS RIPPED by Judical Watch Founder …Obama, CIA Probably Threatened to Kill His Family

  39. And they had the nerve to blame Geo W Bush.

    New Study Finds Democrats Fully to Blame for Subprime Mortgage Crisis that Caused 2008 Financial Disaster

  40. Christianity ‘close to extinction’ in Middle East

    The study warns that Christians suffer greater hostility across the world than any other religious group.

    And it claims politicians have been “blind” to the extent of violence faced by Christians in Africa, Asia and the Middle East.

    The most common threat to Christians abroad is militant Islam, it says, claiming that oppression in Muslim countries is often ignored because of a fear that criticism will be seen as “racism”.

    It warns that converts from Islam face being killed in Saudi Arabia, Mauritania and Iran and risk severe legal penalties in other countries across the Middle East.

    “A far less widely grasped fact is that Christians are targeted more than any other body of believers.”

    It cites estimates that 200 million Christians, or 10 per cent of Christians worldwide, are “socially disadvantaged, harassed or actively oppressed for their beliefs.”

    Pray for our brothers and sisters.

  41. blogging and complaining continously about how bad the usurper is is o. k. but that will never get the job done of exposing him and removing him from the wh . / / blog

  42. To all my friends,

    I wish everyone a very merry Christmas. May God be with each of you during this time. SueQ, I pray that during this time you have comfort in your heart. I know this must be a very difficult time of struggle and would personally give ya a big hug…….

  43. Good Morning All. Merry Christmas! All I want for Christmas is an Obama Impeachment.

  44. Zach,
    Me too!

  45. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    Doris Kearns Goodwin on MSNBC now comparing The Usurper to Abraham Lincoln.
    That’s all we!

  46. Good morning Zach, et al.
    Merry Christmas.

  47. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    “Thou shalt not steal.”

  48. Thornton Parsons

    Merry Christmas, CW, et al. May we find peace in the world tonight and we pray that God softens the hearts that have been hardened against Him. I wish you all love, and peace, and joy for Christmas. But, most of all love.

  49. Article on Agenda 21 being implemented

    “Michelle & Barack Obama Born in America 2013 Calendar”

  51. Discussing calender. Go Orly

  52. 4firemen shot in NY 2dead 2 wounded
    This must stop,toooo many nuts out there

  53. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    Truth Now – Here’s live coverage.

    The country is having a breakdown.

  54. Subpoena on Michael Astrue, Commissioner of Social Security Washington DC

    Posted on | December 24, 2012 | No Comments

    Grinols subpoena on Astrue DC


    2:12-cv-02997-MCE-DAD Grinols et al v. Electoral College et al

    U.S. District Court

    Eastern District of California – Live System

    Notice of Electronic Filing
    The following transaction was entered by Taitz, Orly on 12/24/2012 at 10:28 AM PST and filed on 12/24/2012

    Case Name: Grinols et al v. Electoral College et al
    Case Number: 2:12-cv-02997-MCE-DAD
    Filer: James Grinols
    Keith Judd
    Thomas Gregory MacLeran
    Edward Noonan
    Robert Odden
    Document Number: 16

    Docket Text: NOTICE of subpoena to produce documents served on commissioner of Social Security Michael Astrue by All Plaintiffs re [13] Minute Order, Set/Reset Deadlines and Hearings,,,,. (Taitz, Orly)

  55. subpoena on Obama to appear at January 3rd hearing and produce documents filed with court and posted on SCRIBD

    Posted on | December 24, 2012 | No Comments

    subpoena on Obama to appear at January 3rd hearing and produce documents

  56. Merry Christmas to all! Thank you SueQ for the Hanukkah wishes. No offense taken by your challenge to some of my thoughts.

    SueQ, I couldn’t find the remarks you refer to concerning Hillary Clinton blaming Stevens for his own death. What I find is just the opposite. She took the “fall” for Obama, saying it was her responsibility. Also, in her remarks concerning Stevens she apparently had a great regard for him. She swore him in as ambassador to Libya and expressed a personal liking for the man. I am from the same area as Ambassador Stevens. The town I live in is just down the road from his hometown. Everyone who knew him had a very high regard.

    Hillary Clinton was raised in a Conservative Republican home. She is from my same generation. She is about 4 months older is all. As a teenager she was a “Goldwater girl.” I had joined YAF–Young Americans for Freedom–which totally supported Goldwater. Then later in life, as a Vietnam Vet, very demoralized by the war, I became a Liberal Democrat for awhile. (Being a Jew, that wasn’t hard to do.) But like Michael Medved, my common sense led to “Right Turns,” and I recovered.

    In his book, RIGHT TURNS, Medved mentions Hillary as a Yale classmate of his. He really liked her as a human being. But the Liberal brainwashing at an Ivy League school had its effect on her, not to mention her pairing off with Bill Clinton.

    Still, underneath it all, is her Goldwater girl self and Conservative Republican upbringing. Those values don’t just disappear.

    So, I think she gave Obama the benefit of the doubt when she went to work for him. I think a lot of people did, to include both former Presidents Bush. Secretly, I believe, the Bushes supported Obama over McCain. That is because of the circles they all move in. Obama’s background is hidden from view because of his CIA work, which agency recruits from the Ivy League schools. McCain was simply a Navy man who was seen as a loose canon because of his war experience.

    Now, after Benghazi, the elites have been confronted with something they cannot rationalize away. Stevens was taken out because of his support of the anti-Assad rebels in Syria. Iran was behind Steven’s murder and Obama prevented a military rescue. That, combined with all of Obama’s other supportive acts in favor of Iran, has to be very disturbing to the elites and insiders. Up until Benghazi, Obama’s actions could be rationalized as policy decisions, good or bad, but well intended. But Benghazi shows him square on the side of Iran, even to the point of allwing a US ambassador to be murdered.

    So Hillary Clinton now has a bad stomach ache and a concussion, while Obama gets John Kerry, that Jane-Fonda supporting puke who crapped on all of us Vietnam Vets, to now become Secretary of State.

    Will the elites let him get away with this? That is the big question.

  57. Emergency Motion Filed: National Archives Caught
    Altering Hawaii Arrival Records For August 7, 1961


  58. GORDO | December 24, 2012 at 11:36 am |

    “Michelle & Barack Obama Born in America 2013 Calendar”
    I went to site and zoomed in on Michele, and it looks like the calendar was created using photoshop.

  59. This is sickening

    Narcissist-in-Chief Obama Mentions Himself 63 Times In Eulogy For Sen.

    By Kris Zane 1 Comment

    Obama thinks he’s the center of the universe—even at a funeral! … [Read More…]

  60. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    Here is the whole Barry Soetoro case in a Xmas package.

    1 -Everyone knows that NBC(Natural Born Citizen) refers to BOTH Mother & Father being of U.S. born.
    Except most democrats.

    2 – Everyone knows that Barry Soetoro had an American mother and Kenyan father.

    3 – Everyone knows that Senate Resolution 511 was passed and signed to prove that BOTH parents of Senator McCain were U.S. born citizens, thereby making McCain ELIGIBLE to run for President.

    4 – Chairman Democrat Senator Leahy proclaimed that Sen. McCain was thus eligible because “BOTH” parents were U.S. born citizens.
    End of argument.

    PS – Senate Resolution 511 has been removed from wikipedia.
    Merry Christmas & Happy Hanukkah

    PPS – Barry Soetoro is the real name of Barack Obama and as Casey Stengel said “You can look it up.”

  61. Merry Christmas to all and Sheriff Joe.

    Score is still muzlims zero and how many now for Joe?? At least Az. has some sense left.

    December 19, 2012
    By ADI News Services
    A former Sheriff’s detention officer, Sinan Fazlovic, and the ACLU have lost their lawsuit in which the accused Sheriff Arpaio and his Office of discrimination based on religion by requiring Fazlovic and other Muslim employee’s to shave.

    The federal court jury reached a unanimous verdict in favor of Sheriff Arpaio and the Sheriff’s Office after a six day trial.

    In the lawsuit, filed three years ago, the ACLU claimed in a press release that Fazlovic was forced out of his employment for religious reasons. The Jury deliberated for less than one hour before rejecting all of his claims.

    In 2004, while speaking at an engagement at a Mosque, Sheriff Arpaio met Fazlovic and personally recruited him as a detention officer. Shortly after joining the Sheriff’s Office, Fazlovic was required to shave his beard in accordance with longstanding OSHA regulations and Sheriff’s Office Policy governing the use of breathing equipment detention officers must use.

    Fazlovic asked for, and was granted a religious waiver by the Sheriff’s Office. Once that wavier was granted the Arizona Department of Occupational Safety and Health (ADOSH) warned the Sheriff’s Office of impending monetary fines if the Office continued to allow Fazlovic to violate OSHA regulations.

    ADOSH rejected any accommodation and Fazlovic was offered a non-detention officer position which was at a lower pay rate. Fazlovic eventually rejected the accommodation position and resigned. Shortly after he left the Office, ADOSH changed their opinion and made an allowance for religious beards, but place strict guidelines on length. The Sheriff’s Office offered Fazlovic his job back. However the former employee declined the invitation and instead moved forward with this lawsuit.
    The ruling, coming from the U.S. District Court, was issued yesterday afternoon when the jury decided in the favor of the Maricopa County Sheriff’s Office on every claim made by the former employee. The Sheriff’s Office will seek their costs and expenses in defending the lawsuit.

    Sheriff Arpaio says “I was accused by the ACLU and its local director of discrimination, violating Fazlovic’s religious beliefs and his 1st and 14th Amendments rights. This jury saw through this obvious string of lies and mischaracterizations in an instant. They took less than an hour to dispose of all these baseless claims.”

    The ACLU has sued Sheriff Arpaio and the Sheriff’s Office in the past, and lost. Some of those cases include the 36 year-old Graves vs. Arpaio lawsuit regarding inmate care. The Sheriff’s Office was dropped from the lawsuit over a year ago.
    The ACLU also lost their case against the Sheriff for playing multi-religious holiday music to inmate housing units during the month of December. The ACLU claimed this also was a violation of the religious rights of inmates. The Sheriff is currently playing holiday music again this year to all the inmates in his jails.

  62. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    OH, I forgot – Of the six U.S. Senators on the committee who signed, two were Senator Clinton and Barack Obama!!!

  63. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    “Mele Kalikimaka”

  64. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    Bob – Notice it says “Whereas John Sidney McCain, III, was born to American citizens”. If only one was required it would have said “with at least one parent”.

  65. to zachjonesishome ——- you are never going to get any impeachment . it takes 67 votes in the senate after a trial is held to remove a president . ——— by pass the corrupted media and expose the fraud . ——– wheres

  66. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    gregi – I think Obama can’t be impeached because he is not a legitimate prez. He can only be stopped if the electoral college gives him less than 270 votes and then the U.S. Congress selects the prez and Senate picks the VP.
    UhOh – The way things are going the Republican House would still pick O !!

  67. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)


    The Great Train Wreck of January 8, 2009

    The train has already left the station, but a broken “bridge is down on the track ahead,” somewhere between December 15, 2008 and January 20, 2009 — and this will affect all Electors, all Senators and all Representatives from every State in the Nation.

    We can see far enough ahead now so the ‘gap in the line’ has caught the attention of the national media. It’s not complicated. What that means is that when a wider audience finally grasps what’s going on here, the political fallout is likely to be “NUCLEAR!”

    This is what happened: both major parties in every State have elected Electors, but both major parties have offered Presidential candidates who are NOT ELIGIBLE to serve.

    This has been done out in the open, and both Presidential campaigns have understood that their candidates may be NOT ELIGIBLE, and both campaigns have taken steps to notify the public that it may be possible their candidates are NOT ELIGIBLE to serve.

    But, this is what both campaigns failed to see: They are asking Electors, Senators, and Representatives from every State in the Nation to violate the Law.

    And that’s the broken bridge that’s down on the tracks ahead,’ between the Electoral College and Inauguration Day. It’s a bridge neither party or candidate can cross! So, the House of Representatives is likely have to elect our next President.

    * * * * * * * *

    What both major parties have now to explain is why they spent so much time and treasure (much of it in taxpayer dollars) to nominate and promote TWO candidates, neither of whom was ever eligible to serve!

    This will be the scene of the “train wreck:”

    On Tuesday, January 6, 2009 the 111th Congress will meet, and all Members will take their Oath to support and defend the Constitution and to faithfully discharge their duties. On Thursday, January 8, 2009, at 1:00 PM, a Joint Session is scheduled to count the Electoral College votes of the 2008 Presidential election.

    At that moment, the President of the Senate, Dick Cheney, and all Members of Congress will know that they are required under Article II of the Constitution to elect only a “natural born Citizen . . . to the Office of President.” And, that Citizen will be neither Senator John McCain nor Senator Barack Obama, because by Law neither is eligible and cannot serve, and both of them know it; and both have disclosed that fact to the public that there is this possibility, so they can not be criticized for not informing all parties.

    They will both be asked to withdraw their names from consideration. And, at that moment the political fallout is likely to be “NUCLEAR!”

    * * * * * * * *

    How did this happen? The Republican Party questioned the eligibility of Senator John McCain, and so asked Laurence Tribe of Harvard and former U. S. Solicitor General Theodore Olson to offer a legal opinion. They did – finding that Senator John McCain was indeed a “natural born Citizen, under legal precedent and historical practice.” They attempted to meet head on a 1964 Supreme Court decision that ‘natural born Citizen’ meant ‘born inside the United States.’ What they failed to address were the full ramifications of all Acts of Congress, so their analysis was challenged, and that disclosed the fact that Congress had already acted years ago (under its authority) to address McCain’s Citizenship Status. That contradicts the legal opinion of Tribe and Olson.

    It has always been known that the rights of citizenship of the ‘native Citizen’ and of the ‘naturalized Citizen’ are of the same dignity and are coextensive. The only difference drawn by the Constitution is that only a ‘natural born Citizen’ (Article 2, Section 1, Clause 5) is eligible to be President; and you can’t be a ‘natural born Citizen’ if your Citizenship is achieved through Article 1, Section 8, Clause 4 of the Constitution, the authority of Congress to establish an Uniform Rule of Naturalization, because you are then a ‘naturalized Citizen,’ and that is how McCain’s citizenship was achieved.

    To his credit, Senator John McCain knows that the opinion offered by Tribe and Olson has been challenged as falling short. However, it’s no longer consequential, because his Electoral votes have also fallen short. His major concern now is the audit by the Federal Election Commission (which will take about three years to complete), and whether the Commission will raise this issue, in order to recoup taxpayer matching funds.

    This is Senator Barack Obama’s obstacle: The 111th Congress will know that never in the history of the United States has a Citizen who has ‘Dual or Multiple Nationality’ on his or her ‘Date of Birth’ (subject to the laws of the United States) been considered by any Act of Congress, legal precedent or historical practice to be anything other than a ‘naturalized Citizen’ under Article 1, Section 8, Clause 4, regardless of where he or she was born. Why? Because ‘Dual or Multiple Nationality’ is addressed by an Act of Congress, and Article 2, Section 1, Clause 5, specifically excludes it.

    Most Senators and Representatives have received letters from constituents about the Citizenship Status of Senator Obama and have replied by saying they are willing to accept assurances from Senator Barack Obama that he was born in the State of Hawaii, in Honolulu. Most letters have discussed the files of the Office of Health Status Monitoring, because Senator Obama seems unwilling to open them to the public. It’s irrelevant!

    Why? Senator Obama has posted on his website, “Fight the Smears,” and this information has been confirmed by Senator Obama is the son of a British subject, one who (at the time) owed his allegiance to the Queen, and this status governed all of Obama Sr.s’ children. Senator Obama has disclosed that he was a ‘Dual National’ on the ‘Date of Birth,’ (the only day that counts). Therefore, under the laws of the United States, he is a ‘naturalized Citizen’ no different from Senator John McCain.

    * * * * * * * *

    One thing to observe: If, at any time or under any circumstance, your Citizenship Status needs to be “clarified,” you are NOT a ‘natural born Citizen.’ So, there’s no mention of ‘natural born Citizen’ in the Code of Federal Regulations, except in passing.

    Congress made the mistake once in 1790. Five years later, in 1795, they repealed the Act, realizing that to pass an Act regulating ‘natural born Citizen,’ they would need to amend the Constitution. And, they have not made this mistake again since! “Clarifies Barack’s Citizenship.”

    “When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4, 1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act ‘governed the status’ of Obama Sr.’s children.

    Let me repeat that last line again:

    “That same act ‘governed the status’ of Obama Sr.’s children . . .”

    British Nationality Act of 1948 (Part II, Section 5): Subject to the provisions of this section, a person born after the commencement of this Act shall be a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies by descent if his father is a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies ‘at the time of the birth.’

    That is the FULL DISCLOSURE by the Obama Campaign that Great Britain ‘governed the status’ of Barack Obama at the time of his birth.

    That begs the question: Is he responsible for the fact that voters of his party nominated him for the Presidency of the United States, even though he has FULLY DISCLOSED his Citizenship Status — and many voters still want to check out his Birth Certificate?

    His party is willing apparently to ignore the FULL DISCLOSURE, believing perhaps that Congress can cure the disability. However, other members of the public have shown themselves to be unwilling to ignore the FULL DISCLOSURE, and so it is the subject of legal challenges currently before the Supreme Court of the United States.

    * * * * * * * *

    However, because Barack Obama achieved his Citizenship Status through Article 1, Section 8, Clause 4, as understood by the Framers of the Constitution, his disqualification to serve as President of the United States is ‘incurable’ by the Congress, or the Courts.

    That word ‘incurable’ is an advance description of the train wreck!

    Never before has this come up during his career, because ‘naturalized Citizens’ legally are equal in almost all respects to natural born Citizens. The single distinction is the disqualification of ‘naturalized Citizens’ for the offices of President and Vice President.

    Is it unfair?

    It’s the Law.

    Rep. Jesse Jackson, Jr., (Illinois) IS qualified for the office of President: Sen. Barack Obama, Jr. (Illinois) IS NOT!

    There are (in fact) FIVE obstacles standing in Senator Obama’s way:

    1. The ‘natural born Citizen’ clause applies to his ‘date of birth’ (so his Kenyan and Indonesian ‘Dual Citizenships’ and what he has done about them are noteworthy, but not really relevant;

    2. ‘Dual and Multiple Citizenship’ is addressed by the Code of Federal Regulations, subsequent to an Act of Congress, the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952, as amended through 1994, and is our current law;

    3. The 14th Amendment clause “subject to the jurisdiction thereof” usually is understood to mean “subject to the laws” of the United States” (therefore, subject to the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952, as amended);

    4. Obama’s particular form of ‘Dual Citizenship’ (British) was specifically precluded by Article 2, Section 1, Clause 5 (and therefore is ‘incurable’ by Congress or the Courts);

    5. The constitutional duty of the President is to take care that the laws of the United Stated be faithfully executed. That is not possible to do, if the President is already disqualified from entering upon his office.

    * * * * * * * *

    Here is some history about this: We need to go back to the 39th Congress, where Rep. John Bingham of Ohio, father of the 14th Amendment, commenting on March 9, 1866 on the Civil Rights Act of 1866 (42 U.S.C., Section 1982), said that the first sentence of the 1866 Act means:

    “Every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents ‘not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty’ is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural born Citizen.”

    Then, late 19th Century, the Supreme Court decided in United States v Wong Kim (169 U.S. 649 (1898)) (my summation) that on the basis of the 14th Amendment that every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States is a ‘Citizen,’ but stopped short of declaring Kim a ‘natural born Citizen’ [because to do that would require still another amendment to the Constitution].

    Finally, we go all the way back to the Constitutional Convention, where according to James Madison’s notes, Mr. Gouverneur Morris of Pennsylvania said:

    “As to those philosophical gentlemen, those ‘Citizens of the World’ as they call themselves, He owned he did not wish to see any of them in our public Councils. He would not trust them. The men who can shake off their attachments to their own Country can never love any other.”

    Today, these words might be considered the words of a bigot!

    * * * * * * * *

    Now here is the Act of Congress: Justice Rehnquist (later Chief Justice) said the Constitution is “a political document noted for its brevity,” but it contains 11 instances addressing the ‘Citizen’ distinction: Art. 1, S 2, c 2; S 3, c 3, S 8, c 4; Art. 2, S 1, c 5, Art. 3, S 2, c 1; Art. 4, S 2, c 1, and in the 11th, 15th, 19th, 24th and 26th Amendments.

    The Constitution, in Article 1, Section 8, Clause 4, gives Congress authority to establish an Uniform Rule of Naturalization, and as a result, the 82nd Congress passed The McCarran-Walter Act, that is called “The Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952.”

    The 82nd Congress was controlled by a Democratic majority in both houses and that President Harry Truman vetoed the McCarran-Walter Act, but Congress overrode the veto and the Act became law.

    The Act was the product of the most extensive Congressional study in the nation’s history of the subject of Immigration and Nationality. It brought together and codified for the first time successive laws and decisions on immigration and naturalization.

    In the Act, Congress decided that the Secretary of State and the Attorney General were authorized, in their discretion and on a basis of reciprocity, to severally prescribe regulations implementing the Act. Those regulations are now codified in the Code of Federal Regulations.

    The Secretary of State codified her regulations concerning Citizens “born . . . in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof” in the 7 Foreign Affairs Manual (Consular Affairs), in order to advise U.S. nationals about their Citizenship: 7 FAM 1100 deals with the Acquisition and Retention of U.S. Citizenship and Nationality; 7 FAM 1110 deals with Acquisition of U.S. Citizenship by Birth in the United States, including specifically ‘Dual or Multiple Nationality’ (7 FAM 1111.4).

    * * * * * * * *

    Before the “McCarran-Walter Act,” there was ‘common law:’ Under common law, as is clear from the comments made by Rep. John Bingham of Ohio, the phrase ‘natural born Citizen’ means “birth to parents who are Citizens,” and “subject to the laws of the United States.” The phrase was so understood by William Blackstone’s Commentaries, “Natural-born subjects are such as are born . . . within the allegiance of the king . . .”

    It should be obvious that the applicable phrase in first sentence of the 14th Amendment, “subject to the jurisdiction thereof,” is a substitute for the phrase, “within the allegiance of the king,” in Blackstone’s Commentaries.

    That same word, “allegiance,” is used by Rep. John Bingham of Ohio when he says above that “every human being” born to parents “not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereign is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural born Citizen.”

    The common law was displaced in full when the Secretary of State codified her regulations concerning ‘Dual or Multiple Nationality’ (7 FAM 1111.4), in fulfillment of the McCarran-Walter Act. Therefore, any Citizen whose Citizenship Status is subject to the Act is by Law a “naturalized Citizen,” and also disqualified for the Presidency.

    * * * * * * * *

    What can be done? All Electors can object. All Members of Congress can object. Then the House and Senate will withdraw to their respective Chambers to consider the merits of objections according the procedure set out under 3 U.S.C. Section 15.

    Before the list of the votes are entered on the Journals of the two Houses, the President of the Senate, Dick Cheney, will call for the objections, if any.

    “Every objection shall be made in writing, and shall state clearly and concisely, and without argument, the ground thereof, and shall be signed by at least one Senator and one Member of the House of Representatives before the same will be received.”

    The Electoral College consists of 538 electors (one for each of 435 members of the House of Representatives and 100 Senators; and 3 for the District of Columbia.

    If, based on any objections, no presidential candidate wins a majority of electoral votes, the 12th Amendment to the Constitution provides for the presidential election shall be decided by the House of Representatives. I’m convinced that this will be the case!

    The House will select the President by majority vote, choosing from three candidates who received the greatest number of Electoral Votes. (However, remaining are only two candidates: Senator Joseph Biden (Delaware), and Governor Sarah Palin (Alaska)).

    The vote would be taken by State, with each State delegation having ONE VOTE. How many State delegations are Republican, and how many are Democrat?

    The House will vote for President, the Senate will vote for Vice President.

    So, it’s not impossible that Senator Joseph Biden (D, Delaware), or Governor Sarah Palin (R, Alaska), will be our next President of the United States, and the other will be our next Vice President of the United States.

  68. Mr. Bill(ms. helga) | December 24, 2012 at 4:53 pm |

    Bob – Notice it says “Whereas John Sidney McCain, III, was born to American citizens”. If only one was required it would have said “with at least one parent”.
    Mr Bill, this line from SR511 has me wondering who they are referring to?

    “Whereas previous presidential candidates were born outside of the United States of America and were understood to be eligible to be President;”

  69. GORDO | December 24, 2012 at 11:36 am |

    Merry Christmas GORDO, CW, and all CWers,

    Those are the shoulders and arms of a linebacker, not a woman; I’ll take that opinion to my grave.

    Peace on Earth, goodwill to us all (except barky).

  70. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    Bob – I think it is referring to the original colonists who were all born in England, Germany etc.

  71. Mr. Bill(ms. helga) | December 24, 2012 at 8:39 pm |

    Bob – I think it is referring to the original colonists who were all born in England, Germany etc.
    An effort to bastardize the grandfather clause, I presume.

  72. Merry Christmas SueK.

  73. …and to you, Bob!

  74. to mr. bill —- ms. helga ——– soetoro / obama or whatever his name is can only be stopped by the american people . the politicians are not going to do it . the only way to remove the usurper is to to bring the forged birth certificate to critical mass and force it back into the msm . there is an excellent method to accomplish that and by – pass the media to get it done .

  75. Interested Bystander

    Merry Christmas ALL!!!

  76. Merry Christmas IB, et al.

  77. Air Force Brat!

    Merry Christmas everyone!

  78. Mr. Bill,
    Wong Kim Ark did NOT recognize that all children born in America were citizens. See page 693– the holding of the case– where it says that the permanent legal residence of an alien establishes allegiance on the part of the legal resident alien to the state, and therefore his children, if born while in legal residence, also are norn “subject to the jurisdiction” of the state.Grays holding was based on the law of nations principle of inhabitation (See The Venus pg. 278). Legal inhabitance creates allegiance for so long as that legal inhaitance lasts. In FACT on page 703 of WKA (169 US 649) it says that the children of legal resident aliens are NATURALIZED by the 14A “without the aid of legislation”. The reading that WKA made all those born in the US citizens is a total LIE. The thought that allegiance means “subject to the laws” is a lie. It ALWAYS meant “SINGULAR ALLEGINCE”– just look at the naturalization oath.

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