Kerchner v Obama, Supreme Court fails, Duty as checks and balances, Duty to interpret Constitution, Duty to uphold Constitution, Marbury v Madison
“Why has Obama, for over 2 years, employed numerous private and government attorneys to avoid presenting a legitimate birth certificate and college records?”…Citizen Wells and millions of concerned Americans
“It is emphatically the province and duty of the judicial
department to say what the law is. Those who apply the rule to
particular cases, must of necessity expound and interpret that
rule. If two laws conflict with each other, the courts must
decide on the operation of each.”
“If then the courts are to regard the constitution; and the
constitution is superior to any ordinary act of the legislature;
the constitution, and not such ordinary act, must govern the
case to which they both apply.”
“The judicial power of the United States is extended to all
cases arising under the constitution. Could it be the intention
of those who gave this power, to say that, in using it, the
constitution should not be looked into? That a case arising
under the constitution should be decided without examining the
instrument under which it arises? This is too extravagant to
be maintained.”
“Why does a judge swear to discharge his duties agreeably to the
constitution of the United States, if that constitution forms no
rule for his government? if it is closed upon him, and cannot be
inspected by him?”… Marbury versus Madison
The US Supreme Court has denied the petition for writ of certiorari in Kerchner v Obama.
“(ORDER LIST: 562 U.S.)
MONDAY, NOVEMBER 29, 2010
CERTIORARI”
“CERTIORARI DENIED”
“10-446
KERCHNER, CHARLES, ET AL. V. OBAMA, PRESIDENT OF U.S., ET AL.
The motion of Western Center for Journalism for leave to
file a brief as amicus curiae is granted. The petition for a
writ of certiorari is denied.”
http://www.supremecourt.gov/orders/courtorders/112910zor.pdf
The two main reasons for the existence of the US Supreme Court are as follows:
1. Serve as checks and balances for the other two branches of government . Executive and Legislative.
2. Interpret the US Constitution.
Once again they have failed to do their duty and they should be impeached.
Irrespective of any birth certificate issues surrounding Obama, and those are enough to warrant involvement from the Supreme Court, Obama is clearly not a Natural Born Citizen and the justices know it. They are avoiding the Obama eligibility issues for some reason and should be removed from the court.
For those on the far left, those still in denial, or those incapable of rational thought, the decision to deny the petition is not a ruling on the Kerchner v Obama or any other eligibility case. The justices do not have to give a reason and have not done so. They have simply chosen the coward’s way out. I quoted Marbury v Madison again for a reason.
The swearing in of Obama by Chief Justice Roberts and the difficulty in stating the oath and the subsequent reswearing in are unprecedented in my lifetime.
The oath: “I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.”
CNN has covered the Supreme Court denial.
“The Supreme Court has again cast aside an appeal that raised doubts about President Barack Obama’s U.S. citizenship, a grass-roots legal issue that has gained little legal or political footing, but continues to persist in the courts.
The justices without comment Monday rejected a challenge from Charles Kerchner Jr., a Pennsylvania man who sought a trial in federal court forcing the president to produce documents regarding his birth and citizenship.
Kerchner’s attorney, Mario Apuzzo, had argued in a petition with the Supreme Court that Obama did not fit the definition of a “natural-born citizen” required for the nation’s highest office, as defined by Article II, Section 1 of the Constitution.
That clause states, “No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.””
“State birth certificate records show he was born August 4, 1961, in Honolulu, Hawaii. His mother is a native of Kansas; his father was born in Kenya, which at the time was a British colony.”
“Obama and his staff produced copies of his birth certificate when he was running for president in 2008”
Read more:
http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/11/29/scotus.birther.appeal/
There is no corroboration of the following:
“State birth certificate records show he was born August 4, 1961, in Honolulu, Hawaii.”
The following is an outright lie and CNN knows it.
“Obama and his staff produced copies of his birth certificate when he was running for president in 2008”
From an honest journalist who once worked at CNN.
Citizen WElls 
I agree the concept of Standing limits ones right to redress pursuant to Bill of Rights. In the Kerchner case, however, there were no actual present damages at the time of filing and a political issue argument was raised by suing the entire congress.
It was asking for too much to ask SCOTUS to set a precedent allowing a plaintiff without present actual damages to sue former VP Cheney and the entire US congress.
If SCOTUS had taken the case and ruled for the plaintiff, it would have set a precedent allowing even a plaintiff without actual present damages to sue the entire congress regarding any acts perceived to cause future damages.
If SCOTUS had taken the case and ruled for the defendant, then whether stated or not it would have been construed by bo as a ruling abrogating the Qualification Clause of Article II Section 1 of the Constitution.
Thus, the Kerchner case was a no-win situation for SCOTUS and the Rule of Law.
Serious question:
Can the USA still be defined as a Republic albeit no longer girded by the Constitution (and Declaration of Independence)?
If so, post-Kerchner denial, perhaps we can at least re-label ourslves the 2nd Republic of the USA. (That re-labelling would convey a lot to the uninformed.)
Freespeech,
I personally believe that Kerchner has been damaged, by the confusion that could result in not knowing that an order is legal. That creates stress, or mental injury, which is plenty of ‘standing’ for most to get redress from the courts, or at least discovery. The same ‘injury’ which has allowed standing for discovery of millions of Americans in lawsuits everywhere for decades. However, my beliefs are not relevant to the courts and I accept this.
Be that as it may, you know when the truth comes out, the standing excuse is going to look real thin to the American People. Perhaps by then we will no longer even imagine a Constitutional Republic, and it will be moot, having completed the transformation to fascism/dictatorship that has begun.
They should have granted discovery, then decided if their were injuries (tossed due to standing), and made a determination on NBC. This would have solved the problems, and questions, that are damaging the people’s faith in the government.
Pete
Fascinating how CNN decided to eliminate COMMANDER KERCHNER’S rightful title and use the words “grassroots” rather than citizens.
“The justices without comment Monday rejected a challenge from Charles Kerchner Jr., a Pennsylvania man who sought a trial in federal court forcing the president to produce documents regarding his birth and citizenship.”
How insulting to this brave and courageous former COMMANDER!
(FS – see it is possible for a patriot to distinguish the good from the devious who served in our military, which btw my father did honorably – please don’t insult me again by twisting my words to suit your divisive purposes and never again put words in my mouth I never said. I sincerely hope to never have to have such a conversation again.)
Peace
Pete | November 29, 2010 at 3:07 pm | Freespeech,
I personally believe that Kerchner has been damaged, by the confusion that could result in not knowing that an order is legal…
They should have granted discovery, then decided if their were injuries (tossed due to standing), and made a determination on NBC. This would have solved the problems, and questions, that are damaging the people’s faith in the government.
Pete
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I agree that all Americans have suffered real injury as a proximate result of bo’s illegitimate pResidency, some more than others. I was sent to jail for 60 days, Kerchner had some mental distress.
“They should have granted discovery, then decided if their were injuries (tossed due to standing), and made a determination on NBC. ” I agree with this concept in principal, but in reality if remanded to a lower court, how could SCOTUS prevent the lower court from ruling in favor of bo and abrogating Article II Section 1 of the Constitution in its entirety?
If not throught the Supreme Court, is there ANY other way for us to ever discover and reveal the actual truth about Obama’s eligility? I mean, of course, the kind of proof that would have been produced in the process of “discovery” if any of the eligibility lawsuits were to have moved forward. I guess it’s too much to hope that Issa would pursue this?
How can a dual citizenship, be a natural Born American citizen?
This was written from the latest leaked documents from Wikileaks:
America’s ambassadors can be merciless in their assessments of the countries in which they are stationed. That’s their job. Kenya? A swamp of flourishing corruption extending across the country. Fifteen high-ranking Kenyan officials are already banned from traveling to the United States, and almost every single sentence in the embassy reports speaks with disdain of the government of President Mwai Kibaki and Prime Minister Raila Odinga.
http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,731580,00.html
Linda Starr | November 29, 2010 at 3:25 pm | If not throught the Supreme Court, is there ANY other way for us to ever discover and reveal the actual truth about Obama’s eligility? I mean, of course, the kind of proof that would have been produced in the process of “discovery” if any of the eligibility lawsuits were to have moved forward. I guess it’s too much to hope that Issa would pursue this?
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Being that no republicans objected to the certification of bo as pResident, I suspect that the repubs will investigate the crimes of the bo regime but they will be content to allow bo to linger on until 2012 for maximum political advantage.
Margie | November 29, 2010 at 3:28 pm | How can a dual citizenship, be a natural Born American citizen?
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bo is NOT a NBC.
FreeSpeech,
I respectfully disagree with your analysis of “Standing” issuance. I will leave it at that. There are in Fact SCOTUS suits that allowed “Standing” to less. No sense in dancing on the head of a needle.
In any event. Look folks, sometimes justice does not deal us the hand that we absolutely know it should, it happens; unfortunately at times we expect it at our worse endeavors and demand or expect solutions in the time-line we wish it. I doesn’t always work in the timely manner we like nor the fashion we lay our faith upon regardless of efforts.
I believe in each and every single one of my fellow Patriots here. I know, that as individuals, you have the will and desire to succeed in this resolution and will without doubt, utilize every resource and discover new ones, to expose this American risk and fraud for what it is.
It can be done….
SirWilliam | November 29, 2010 at 3:39 pm | FreeSpeech,
I respectfully disagree with your analysis of “Standing” issuance… There are in Fact SCOTUS suits that allowed “Standing” to less.”
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Name 1 SCOTUS case where a Writ of Certiorari was granted to a plaintiff with less standing than Kerchner?
Sir William…It is time to give up. I will not vote again, it is a waste of time. I can only hope they all burn in Hell, very soon.
Again, addressed to Free Speech and anyone else, serious question:
Can the USA still be defined as a Republic albeit no longer girded by the Constitution (and Declaration of Independence)?
If so, post-Kerchner denial, perhaps we can at least re-label ourslves the 2nd Republic of the USA. (That re-labelling would convey a lot to the uninformed.)
SirWilliam,
Name 1 SCOTUS case where a Writ of Certiorari was granted to a plaintiff with less standing than Kerchner?
FreeSpeech,
Certainly.
High Court Rules In Massachusetts v. EPA Climate Change Case – Apr 2: In a 5-4 decision,
After you are done reading the writ, and the comments whereby the Majority ruled that “All of the Citizens in the World Had Standing), let me know of your comments.
Why am I not surprised that SCOTUS has no zeal for constitutional issues or the truth? Because I no longer trust SCOTUS, Congress, our intel agencies, or anyone else to reveal the truth to the American public. At some juncture, the ptb decided it would be easier, safer, less embarrassing to shovel manure on those who asked questions and presented evidence than to admit that they gave this hustler a pass and intend to keep protecting him until his term is done.
I cannot conceive of anyone I trust less than this president and his administration unless it would be Putin, Chavez, Ahmanidinejahd, Castro, Kim Jung Il, Sr. and Jr., or Osama bin Laden. I didn’t betray my government; my government betrayed me.
And let me know also how “Every Citizen in the World has Standing” in the Supreme Court, and how Every Single Citizen has a Unique and Specific harm, with an estimated 5 Billion People. But they said they have “Standing”..
To: jamese777
As I have told you scores of times, the appropriate way to challenge Barack Obama’s eligibility is through the criminal courts not the civil courts. All that is needed is to convince a prosecuting attorney: either a district attorney, a US Attorney, a Special Counsel, or a state attorney general that there is probable cause of election fraud, forgery or felony fraud.
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That is absolutely correct.
http://standupamericaus.com/our-privilege-our-right-and-our-duty-civilian-grand-jury:33320
SirWilliam | November 29, 2010 at 4:07 pm |
That’s easy sw. There are tangible environmental damages as opposed to Kerchner’s intangible emotional distress. Did Kerchner even present his psychiatric records to prove his emotional distress?
To: American Constitutionalist
” What is happening is, the precedent is being set that someone born with foreign citizenship, with allegiance owed from birth to a foreign country, is eligible to be the Commander in Chief of the armed forces. “
This is more than just dismantling the US Constitution, it’s the US giving up it’s sovereignty over to the United Nations.
87 posted on Monday, November 29, 2010 3:27:57 PM by American Constitutionalist
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Yes, if BO is not legally removed, the result will be a UN takeover of the USA.
http://standupamericaus.com/our-privilege-our-right-and-our-duty-civilian-grand-jury:33320
NO ONE can touch the FRAUD…..he is prez of the US Corporation and he does not have to be a Natural Born Citizen to hold that position!! Until we prove our present form of government is unlawful then “we the people” do not have a chance……listen to Rod Class on talkshoe and then you all might understand what we are up against!
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SirWilliam | November 29, 2010 at 4:07 pm |
Did Kerchner even present his psychiatric records to prove his emotional distress?
If Kerchner did not present his psychiatric records to the court, how did he expect any court to recognize that he had any damages at all?
How did he expect the Supreme Court of the United States of America to grant a Writ of Certiorari in a case where there was no proof of any damages at all?
Free Speech | November 29, 2010 at 3:32 pm |
I think that you are right, FS. He’ll be there through 2012. Obama is worth more in office, with the soon to come steady drip of investigations of corruption. Which means that we have two more years ahead of us in limbo with these daily circle jerks. This country needs to move forward.
Do you think that either of the two other cases have a better shot at ‘standing’?
SirWilliam | November 29, 2010 at 4:07 pm |
That’s easy sw. There are tangible environmental damages as opposed to Kerchner’s intangible emotional distress. Did Kerchner even present his psychiatric records to prove his emotional distress?
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Lets break this down… I know you have not reviewed the case, it took me 3 days, last year, but you responded in a matter of minutes. I’m not your enemy FreeSpeech, I am simply trying to understand your legal analogy for a moment.
First, as you said…”There are tangible environmental damages”
Ok, say I agree with that notion… Would you not also confess that having an Illegal President of the United States holds Tangible damages? Therefore the Entire world (same as EPA) is at risk? Or not?
And…”Did Kerchner even present his psychiatric records to prove his emotional distress?”
Out of 5 Billion people, how many presented themselves to the U.S. Supreme Court with their Psychiatric Records for Global Warming?
Answer…. Zero…
You asked me a very simple question, and I gave you the case. The Entire world and Every Citizen has Standing in the EPA case. But is Every Citizen in the Entire World hold a “Unique and Specific Harm” and proven as such?
Paxson | November 29, 2010 at 4:37 pm | Free Speech | November 29, 2010 at 3:32 pm |
I think that you are right, FS. He’ll be there through 2012. Obama is worth more in office, with the soon to come steady drip of investigations of corruption. Which means that we have two more years ahead of us in limbo with these daily circle jerks. This country needs to move forward.
Do you think that either of the two other cases have a better shot at ‘standing’?
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Yes, Paxxon, I am afraid you are correct about the limbo of the daily circle jerk.
IMHO, both Keyes and Hollister have much better standing than Kerchner, but better yet is a criminal case and there are thousands of potential criminal cases against bo and his co-conspirators.
http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/06/how-to-start-and-lead-citizens-grand.html
SirWilliam | November 29, 2010 at 4:07 pm |
sw, environmental damage is self evident. So what is Kerchner’s proof of damages?
Did Kerchner even present his psychiatric records to prove his emotional distress?
Did Kerchner present an independent psychiatric evaluation to the court to support his claim of mental distress?
If Kerchner did not present his psychiatric records to the court, how did he expect any court to recognize that he had any damages at all?
How did he expect the Supreme Court of the United States of America to grant a Writ of Certiorari in a case where there was no proof of any damages at all?
If Barry knew he wasn’t born in this country, but told people he wanted to be president someday, anyhow, doesn’t this implicate prior knowledge of ineligibility? His contact in Decatur, IL, the proprietor of a hippie smoke shop, inquired for detailed information about me from my friend, their babysitter, in the early 1970’s when I rejected the idea that we should alter the intent of the Founders to accomodate Barry’s presidential aspirations. I rejected the notion of a foreign-born POTUS then and I reject it now, unequivocally.
Bill Clinton let it slip that he only knew of two qualifications to be a candidate for the presidency, age 35 years and a resident for 14 years. That’s right, there is nothing preventing Putin from sending his offspring to our soil and either exploiting the gaping gaffes in our system or just getting said issue adopted by an Indian tribe. Nobody in the government or the press or in our intel agencies is going to be able to do anything but stand by like impotent fops. SCOTUS just told us again, they couldn’t care less about his misrepresentations and fraud perpetrated on the voters in the last election. How much power have the watchdogs already ceded to this imposter? More than he should ever have been allowed to usurp. I didn’t betray my government; my government betrayed me.
Lillibet | November 29, 2010 at 4:58 pm
bo is a law school grad and a former instructor of Constitutional Law which is prima facie evidence that he understands Art. II Sec. 1, i.e., bo willfully committed fraud when he ran for POTUS.
Hello all…..
Does anyone besides me smell a rat in the Wikileaks situation?
I’m waiting for someone to tell me how a lowly private first class has access to such a wealth of information! Having been an officer for over 26 years in the US Army, I can tell you with no reservations that it is almost an impossibility for someone of that low rank to have access to such information.
I think this information in Wikileaks is coming from a very high source within obama’s administration…someone with an axe to grind…but not from a private!!!!
Let’s hope it contains some info on bummer’s missing passport information and true birth certificate…maybe that’s to come.
FreeSpeech,
Dear Sir, and I mean this out of the most professional dearest deep-rooted part of my heart when I say Sir.
I dearly, and up-mostly respect you FreeSpeech, and always have, but it is apparent you are intentionally avoiding my simple question to you, or possibly side-tracking. If so, and you wish to dis-involve yourself, then that is acceptable.
The Case with EPA and the issue of “Standing” remains, and unanswered. Tell me, how 5 Billion People have “Standing” in the U.S. Supreme Court whereby Each and Every Single one of them “Proved Injury” Unique to Each and all 5 Billion of them? How…..
Yowanda’s in Ethopia, faced a .5 degree in temp rise over the last 35 years, her Unique damage, ONLY TO HER, was what? Compared to the Rest of the Entire World on each of those Citizen residents?
Tell me the difference? I don’t understand. Ok for one case, but not another.
Margie @ 3:28 pm |
How can a dual citizenship, be a natural Born American citizen?
Maybe the best answer is a guess, Obama is the messiah (the word according to him) so this must be a miracle- Oh, my gosh he has created his own miracle what a guy.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/watercooler/2010/nov/29/wikileaks-and-obamas-bow/
Brennan said President Obama looked forward to seeing the King at the G-20 summit in London. “Thank God for bringing Obama to the presidency,” the King answered, which has created “great hope” in the Muslim world. “May God grant him strength and patience, Abdullah continued, “May God protect him. I’m concerned about his personal safety. America and the world need such a president.”
Glenn Beck is explaining Wikileaks today and why this stuff is going on!
sw, environmental damage is self evident. It is as simple as that. If you still don’t get it then think in terms of a car wreck case. You don’t necessarily need an expert to prove your was smashed and your back was broken, but you would still need psychiatric records and an expert to prove mental distress. That is just the way it is.
So what is Kerchner’s proof of damages?
Did Kerchner even present his psychiatric records to prove his emotional distress?
Did Kerchner present an independent psychiatric evaluation to the court to support his claim of mental distress?
If Kerchner did not present his psychiatric records to the court, how did he expect any court to recognize that he had any damages at all?
How did he expect the Supreme Court of the United States of America to grant a Writ of Certiorari in a case where there was no proof of any damages at all?
SW, if you do not know the answer to any of my questions, please just say so.
I admit the concept of Standing limits ones right to redress pursuant to Bill of Rights. In the Kerchner case, however, there were no actual present damages at the time of filing and a political issue argument was raised by suing the entire congress.
It was asking for too much to ask SCOTUS to set a precedent allowing a plaintiff without present actual damages to sue former VP Cheney and the entire US congress.
If SCOTUS had taken the case and ruled for the plaintiff, it would have set a precedent allowing even a plaintiff without actual present damages to sue the entire congress regarding any acts perceived to cause future damages.
If SCOTUS had taken the case and ruled for the defendant, then whether stated or not it would have been construed by bo as a ruling abrogating the Qualification Clause of Article II Section 1 of the Constitution.
Free Speech | November 29, 2010 at 5:29 pm |
sw, environmental damage is self evident.
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Bull Chit…….
There is no such thing as “Self Evident”, without evidence.. \
And we are speaking about “S
Why and how did they ban 15 top Kenyans from coming to the U.S.?
Free Speech – I do agree that the SC would prefer to rule on a case that has a narrow application for future possible cases. I believe you suggested that the SC might have accepted the other brief in the case as a show of interest. I hope that is the case. We’ll know soon enough with the other two cases.
I hope there will be early actions forcing the Secretaries of State of each state to do their duty to vet candidates. All it would really take is for one SofS to declare a Natural Born Citizen as one requiring 2 citizen parents.
It would be nice if Bobby Jindal and/or Marco Rubio brought an action for Judicial Clarification as to their eligibility to serve as President.
Free Speech | November 29, 2010 at 5:29 pm |
sw, environmental damage is self evident.
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Bull Chit…….
There is no such thing as “Self Evident”, without evidence..
And we are speaking about “STANDING CLAUSE”…
No Standing because your harm is not unique and particularized in the Kerchner case. But tell me, How is “MY” harm, Unique and Particularized with the EPA? How does my harm in CO2 differ from that than your? How does mine differ in degree from State to State? How does mine differ from that of our Neighboring Boarders in Countries? How does my CO2 Intake Make me a special Unique person out of 5 billion persons?
I never submitted a psy examine to the U.S. government making me “Special” out of 5 Billion people. Yet you require that of “Commander Kerchner”.. Interesting analogy. I will hold you to that accountable fact from here on out.
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GORDO | November 29, 2010 at 12:54 pm | “Open Letter to Congressman Rohrabacher”
“ISN’T IT PAST TIME FOR YOU TO FIX THE PROBLEM YOU CREATED?”
“To add to this betrayal of the American people, the 111th Congress not only permitted the subversion of the government to occur but all of the members of Congress also aided and abetted the domestic enemy, Mr. Obama, to proceed.
When I visited your office regarding my concerns about this matter in the early part of 2009, you even had the unmitigated gall to give me your personal assurances that Mr. Obama’s eligibility issue was resolved to your satisfaction, that you were especially familiar with the issues and that it was of no consequence.”
http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/11/29/open-letter-to-congressman-rohrabacher/
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Pete | November 29, 2010 at 12:55 pm | To my fellow bloggers and CW,
The SCOTUS has a duty to determine what is Constitutional, and to interpret the Constitution. They don’t have to find against Obama to make a ruling that is important precedence for the meaning of NBC for the office of POTUS. I do not believe that silence is adequate here, they need to take one of these cases and make a ruling as to the meaning of NBC. My belief before was that this has nothing to do with the Constitutional meaning of NBC, and this is just being reinforced as time goes on. This entire fiasco has to do with preventing discovery. Get discovery, and it all goes away, the truth will set us all free.
Pete
Zach Jones | November 29, 2010 at 5:57 pm | Free Speech – I do agree that the SC would prefer to rule on a case that has a narrow application for future possible cases. I believe you suggested that the SC might have accepted the other brief in the case as a show of interest.
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What reason would SCOTUS have to accept the Western Journalism Brief other than to gather information for future cases against BO?
Free Speech – Just to carry on the illusion of fairness.
Zach Jones | November 29, 2010 at 5:57 pm | Free Speech – I do agree that the SC would prefer to rule on a case that has a narrow application for future possible cases.
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In the Kerchner case, Apuzzo sued bo, pelosi, VP Cheney, the entire US Congress et al. Can you imagine how nightmarishly cumbersome and difficult it would be to try a case with that many defendants? No judge would want to try a case like that.
“OPEN LETTER TO ALL CITIZENS WHO INTEND TO RESTORE THE U.S. CONSTITUTION”
http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/11/29/open-letter-to-all-citizens-who-intend-to-restore-the-u-s-constitution/
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“THE GIFT OF WISDOM”
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“DEFENDING, MAINTAINING, AND ADHERING TO THE CONSTITUTION”
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Zach Jones | November 29, 2010 at 6:09 pm | Free Speech – Just to carry on the illusion of fairness.
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I doubt it. SCOTUS has no need to ingratiate themselves. How does it convey fairness for the to accept an amicus for a case that they have already dismissed. The only plausible explanation for them accepting the amicus brief is that they thought that they might get info that could be useful in future cases, info that they did not get from Apuzzo.
Depending on what happens with Lt. Col. Lakin’s trial and the grounds for appeal, we will see if the Supreme Court has truly sold its soul.
Zach Jones | November 29, 2010 at 6:32 pm | Depending on what happens with Lt. Col. Lakin’s trial and the grounds for appeal, we will see if the Supreme Court has truly sold its soul.
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Col Lakin’s case is perfect for appeal the only issue is the lawfulness of BO’s orders and in the event of his conviction, his injuries and thus his standing for appeal to SCOTUS will be substantial.
Good night. Time to eat!
SirWilliam | November 29, 2010 at 5:58 pm |
You are the one who stated that Kerchner’s damages were mental distress. Is a case for mental distress alone, even actionable in PA. If Kerchner’s damages were not merely mental distress, what exactly are the damages stated in his original complaint?
You are aware that you must have actual damages to prevail in a lawsuit, aren’t you, SW?
Damage Control. Once again the Supreme Court of the United States of Obamanation has ruled in the Ones Favor. All Branches of the Government and the Left wing Media are too busy enjoying the bountiful wealth of George Soros and the Muslim Royalty of Saudi Arabia to care about the American People, or the Military. Michael Savage in his Trickle Up Poverty book says there is No Democrat or Republican. They are both sides of the Same Coin that sucks the Money out of the American Tax Payers Pocket for their Enjoyment. I agree with him.
Can Congress bring the nine completely ruthless, dangerously corrupt, completely lawless, despicably evil, completely immoral & arrogant & wicked Massive Serial Criminals who want to be called Supreme Court justices, when they are Massive Serial Criminals – into Congressional Ethics Hearings to impeach & disbar all of them with Massive Ethics Complaints against their aiding and abetting the Massive High Crimes, Seditions, & High Treasons of Soetoro alias Obama in their unethical and illegal & unconstitutional, evil, & sick behaviors?
We The American People MUST get all the criminals on the Supreme Court impeached, disbarred, and punished for they have committed Serial High Crimes & High Treasons to protect & to keep a lifetime position, paycheck, & career for themselves, as they refused to protect We The American People’s Civil Rights, Freedoms, and Liberties, & they refused to obey, uphold, preserve, protect & defend the USA Supreme Law Of The Law, the USA Rule Of Law in the USA Constitution & ALL 310 + Million USA American lives from the attack of the Foreign War against the USA to Overthrow, & To Criminally Destroy, & To Illegally & Constitutionally Attack & Usurp In Massive High Crimes & High Treasons the USA Government – that the Foreign & Domestic Enemy Terrorist Usurper, Barry Soetoro Soebarkah, alias Barack Obama is waging against America and ALL Americans now!
USA Supreme Law Of The Land
I for one, will no longer recognize any decision of the so-called Supreme Court justices. To me, they are Serial Criminals who committed High Cresim & High Treasons aiding and abetting a Foreign Terrorist who is in the White House. I want to help get them impeached, disbarred and arrested for committing HIGH CRIMES & HIGH TREASONS against the USA American citizens. I want them brought down to zero from their lofty arrogant positions, where they are getting paid to destroy the USA with Soetoro.
Free Speech | November 29, 2010 at 6:54 pm |
SirWilliam | November 29, 2010 at 5:58 pm |
You are the one who stated that Kerchner’s damages were mental distress.
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Where in the hell did I state that? Are you on Drugs Sir?
I think you need to call it a night and lay of the Whiskey or what ever you are on. If I said that, then quote it..
You really need to call it a night FreeSpeech. You are in over your head here.
With all due respect,
Lillibet wrote, “That’s right, there is nothing preventing Putin from sending his offspring to our soil and either exploiting the gaping gaffes in our system…”
But that is exactly what has been done with Barry. He is an *ideological* offspring of Putin’s as he is an NWO/Marxist plant. The perfect Trojan Horse, groomed from birth with his DNA granting a patina of Teflon. In this day and age of political correctness, anyone who dared question anything whatsoever would be labeled a racist in light of this “historic event”. In hindsight, it was brilliantly executed. Objectively, the years of planning and execution have been flawless. And it certainly is historic. Written about and predicted eons ago.
Because the USA Serial Criminals who are infecting the Supreme Court are committing High Crimes & High Treasons & Seditions against ALL 310 + Million Americans, we must inform them that they are not safe in their lifetimes position. Patriots unite to save the USA from the massive criminals who are infesting OUR Supreme Court, and who are in Congress, and in the judiciary, and in the White House who are selling out our lives, our national securities & futures, & the national securities & futures of ALL USA American citizens for their personal greed, profits, and personal securities.
lifetimes positions.
ONE OF OUR MANY BATTLE CRYS MUST BE:
“OBAMA MUST STAND UP NOW OR STEP DOWN”
By Dr. Edwin Vieira, Jr., Ph.D., J.D.
October 29, 2008
http://www.newswithviews.com/Vieira/edwin84.htm
I personally think that the ENTIRE US government is now operating like an OVERSISED CHICAGO MOB.(DALEY STYLE). Every single GOON gets a little piece of the action,for acting to keep the grandmaster out of trouble. The courts,the military,and Congress ALL receive their pay from the alleged GOVERNMENT, and it is ENTIRELY ON Soetoro’s payroll. GAME OVER!.
CHAVEZ’S BUDDY HAS WON THE BATTLE, BUT HE HAS BY NO MEANS WON THE WAR. THE BATTLES WILL CONTINUE for as long as it takes to expose what,and who he really is.
Found this comment at another blog…..this is exactly what I am talking about……you can not get rid of the FRAUD because he is CEO/PREZ of the US Corporation and does not need to be a NBC…….wake up foks….we have all been duped for a long….long….time……go back to 1861 when America was duped….research…..read about it…..check it out…….NONE of these lawsuits will ever be heard>>>>PERIOD!
FollowtheConstitution says:
November 29, 2010 at 5:19 pm
Did anyone really think they would allow this to be heard? They know he isn’t eligible but they also know it doesn’t matter because we haven’t had a lawful government ever since the south walked out on Congress and Lincoln replaced them with military officers. We have been under a State of emergency ever since and this country is operating under military rule, not constitutional law. They suspended the constitution and have no intention of ever bringing it back. Anything you see pertaining to the constitution is just a dog and pony show. The same with voting. The elections are also a dog and pont show. They control who wins and they put the ones they want in office. Your votes don’t count. The control the electronic voting machines. Everything you see is all for show and rigged to keep the masses divided.
We don’t have a government and haven’t had one for over a 100 yers now. We have a private corporation running everything and it is designed to milk every penny from the people they can get. To them you are all chattel. They steal the wealth from this country and stash it into their CAFR accounts and tell you how they are spending more than what is coming in. They are taking in TRILLIONS every year and they are going to take more and more until everyone is kicked out of their homes, starving to death, and willing to beg for government to do something which the people will then give away any freedom left just so big government will take care of them
They already are the biggest stock holders in every corporation. Because of this they control who the CEO’s will be of those corps just like you seen them do with GM. Only you don’t see it all the time because it is being done by the boards of these companies that this corrupt government has people sitting on those boards dictating all the shots.
You can’t even begin to comprehend the degree of how deep this evil has penatrated everything. They own the majority interest in all major media that they control what you are being told and use to suck the masses into watching all their programs so the sheeple don’t pay attention to what they are doing behind the scenes. Even with all they have been exposing to us on how they will do anything they want and showing they are above any laws the people just sit there and take it.
Look at the airports right now as the perfect example. How even ONE single person is willing to tolerate that and allow themselves to be put through that is beyond belief. People don’t even have a clue that this is just a test to see how dumbed down and far gone the people really are before they carryout the rest of their plans to totally enslave everyone. People complain, scream, whine and yack up a bunch of garbage how they are not going to take it. They will take a stand. BS! The masses will do nothing and continue to just make worthless noise while sitting in their pots as the water starts to slowly boil and over takes them.
If they came out today and told everyone they are being routed to the fema camps in the name of safety because of BS terrorists threats half the sheeple would just line up and comply. Sure, they will whine and complain, but they will willing comply! We are own worst enemy because we just sit back and take it while allowing them to grab more and more control over us while doing nothing but whine and complain.
I’m afraid it is long past too late for this country and the masses are far to gone to ever wake up.
OldSalt,
It really is beginning to appear that way isn’t it. I still firmly believe that “We the People” hold the power and the contractible bridge between us and the Government of which we allow power to represent us as a whole.
The fight is not over, its just begun.
Now i’m pissed…
Free Speech | November 29, 2010 at 6:16 pm |
Zach Jones | November 29, 2010 at 5:57 pm | Free Speech – I do agree that the SC would prefer to rule on a case that has a narrow application for future possible cases.
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In the Kerchner case, Apuzzo sued bo, pelosi, VP Cheney, the entire US Congress et al. Can you imagine how nightmarishly cumbersome and difficult it would be to try a case with that many defendants? No judge would want to try a case like that.
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Thanks for keeping the sanity around here.
Paxson | November 29, 2010 at 8:03 pm | Free Speech | November 29, 2010 at 6:16 pm |
Zach Jones | November 29, 2010 at 5:57 pm | Free Speech – I do agree that the SC would prefer to rule on a case that has a narrow application for future possible cases.
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In the Kerchner case, Apuzzo sued bo, pelosi, VP Cheney, the entire US Congress et al. Can you imagine how nightmarishly cumbersome and difficult it would be to try a case with that many defendants? No judge would want to try a case like that.
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Thanks for keeping the sanity around here.
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No problem. I just skip over the insane obot posts unless I feel that I can make a point by responding as with the Kerchner standing issue.
Paxson,
How can one expose Obama, without exposing the others involved? ie.. Congress, Senate, V.P. Cheney, Pelosi, et al.? Obama, alone all by himself?
Interesting.
SirWilliam | November 29, 2010 at 8:11 pm |
Paxson,
How can one expose Obama, without exposing the others involved? ie.. Congress, Senate, V.P. Cheney, Pelosi, et al.? Obama, alone all by himself?
Interesting.
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Sorry…..all of this is for naught……nothing will happen until “we the people” expose the unlawfulness of the current government system that has been in place for some 150 years……talking and filing lawsuits to get rid of the FRAUD will never come to fruition! Sorry to say…..read the comments from my friend FollowtheConstitution….he is right on target!
Free Speech 6:16 PM
In the Kerchner case, Apuzzo sued bo, pelosi, VP Cheney, the entire US Congress et al. Can you imagine how nightmarishly cumbersome and difficult it would be to try a case with that many defendants? No judge would want to try a case like that.
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Having been away all day, I have just now tried to catch up on what is going on here at CW’s. Free Speech, I see your point about this case being a virtual minefield, because the list of defendants was entirely too broad.
I don’t think we should be in such despair in spite of our disappointment. I wonder why Attorney Appuzo allowed such wide stretch re. defendants to go forward? He seems to have done exemplary work re. NBC issue.
BIX WEIR: NEXT Wikileaks release and it will be a BIG ONE for our camp. He’s going to release incriminating emails about
Posted By: watcher51445
Date: Monday, 29-Nov-2010 19:40:55
Forbes has recently interviewed Wikileaks’ Julian Assage about the NEXT Wikileaks release and it will be a BIG ONE for our camp. He’s going to release incriminating emails about a “large US Bank”. I would expect it to be Bank of America and it will likely relate to the Global Mortgage Fraud BUT there is also the possibility that the bank will be JP Morgan in which case the ENTIRE WORLD WILL BLOW UP.
http://blogs.forbes.com/andygreenberg/2010/11/29/an-interview-with-wikileaks-julian-assange/
Here’s an excerpt from the interview:
These megaleaks, as you call them that, we haven’t seen any of those from the private sector.
No, not at the same scale for the military.
Will we?
Yes. We have one related to a bank coming up, that’s a megaleak. It’s not as big a scale as the Iraq material, but it’s either tens or hundreds of thousands of documents depending on how you define it.
Is it a U.S. bank?
Yes, it’s a U.S. bank.
One that still exists
Yes, a big U.S. bank.
The biggest U.S. bank?
No comment.
When will it happen?
Early next year. I won’t say more.
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By now you should be able to FEEL something is VERY WRONG with our Global Financial System. I can’t tell you the day (obviously) but I can tell you that the RESULT of the coming crash will be the TOTAL AND COMPLETE destruction of the fiat monetary system.
You can figure out for yourself how that will effect you and your investments.
Bix
http://www.RoadtoRoota.com
PS – All is progressing along the carefully planned script. It’s just a matter of time. The National Bank of Australia “problems” are just a shot across the bow. 19,000 “customers” still don’t have access to their funds…I’d bet you these are 19,000 of the largest accounts!
Prepare yourself: A FINAL CHECKLIST FOR EVERYONE
PO Box 10626, Oakland, CA 94610, USA
This is just spoken from the heart and is not meant to be insulting to anyone.
Madame Defarge was a fictional character of “A Tale of Two Cities”, by Charles Dickens. During the French Revolution she was a vengeance-seeking agent who possessed a remorseless bloodlust. Unfortunately there was a tinge of that attitude displayed in a few comments on the prior thread.
I can fully understand the anger and feeling of betrayal.
If we know and remember history, that revolution, unlike ours, did not turn out well at all. The revolutionaries became more vile than those whom they eliminated.
Let’s watch ourselves, keep our heads, and steadily stay the course. We need to keep our footing and not succumb to exactly what our enemies want – chaos.
>>>SirWilliam | November 29, 2010 at 7:49 pm |
OldSalt,
It really is beginning to appear that way isn’t it. I still firmly believe that “We the People” hold the power and the contractible bridge between us and the Government of which we allow power to represent us as a whole.
The fight is not over, its just begun.
Now i’m pissed…<<<
SirWilliam and Oldsalt79,
For some strange reason i feel very akin to you both, like somehow I have know you both forever. SirWilliam, get in line…I been pissed since I researched this joker when he was running for the democratic nomination. Oldsalt79, thanks for your and many other vets service, there are a few of us civilians that truly get it, and care about what you did for us. BTW, as an American I'm truly sorry about Bravo, they miscalculated and hurt many people.
Pete
Scotus is eventually going to see the LTC Lakin case. We need to bring as much awareness as possible to his case, it may be our last chance to defend the natural born Citizen clause, or any other part of the Constitution.
bob strauss,
For all practical purposes, the last chance was today (w/Kerchner). We are NOW living under the 2nd Republic of the USA (the “Post-Constitutional Republic”). The 1st Republic (the “Constitutional Republic”) ran from 1789 to 2010. This, the 2nd Republic, officially began today with the final acquiesence of all 3 branches of govt.
… at least that is how I believe future historians should characterize this.
Answer Cabby AZ – because Apuzzo and Kerchner have both figured out the crime of the century – the Act of 1871.
The slower learners or psyop infiltratators – take your pick, want to keep you and me and the rest of the world in the dark. Maybe they are getting paid to post here all day, I don’t know, but what I do know is that JS’s friends post above is spot on.
Indulge me and allow me to add this ditty, the original 13th amd recognized the devious and underhanded nature of Esquires which is why this amd just vanished, poof, gone. You see, these Esquires through their Bar Associations report to …. tada…. the Queen. Know she is at the top of the pyramid and the Esquires knowing it or not do her bidding.
Like JS said, of which I am in total agreement – read the Act of 1871. No one is asking you for your first child, your leg or your bank account, we’re just asking, he!!, begging you to read the Act for yourself.
None of this is rocket science. It’s simply taking responsibility for your own educated journey through the morass of lies aka the matrix.
bob strauss | November 29, 2010 at 9:03 pm |
Scotus is eventually going to see the LTC Lakin case. We need to bring as much awareness as possible to his case, it may be our last chance to defend the natural born Citizen clause, or any other part of the Constitution.
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Bob….even if it does see the LTC Lakin case…..what good will it do…..the fix is in! WE are under and unlawful government…..run by International Bankers who put BO in as their CEO/PREZ….we the people have to ban together and present the unlawfulness of this government…..that is what Rod Class is focusing on…..please listen to his talkshow archives if you haven’t already….it’s a great place to get information on the true history of the current government and how we were duped in the 1860’s and now we are under Corporate rule!
helen | November 29, 2010 at 9:20 pm |
Answer Cabby AZ – because Apuzzo and Kerchner have both figured out the crime of the century – the Act of 1871.
The slower learners or psyop infiltratators – take your pick, want to keep you and me and the rest of the world in the dark. Maybe they are getting paid to post here all day, I don’t know, but what I do know is that JS’s friends post above is spot on.
Indulge me and allow me to add this ditty, the original 13th amd recognized the devious and underhanded nature of Esquires which is why this amd just vanished, poof, gone. You see, these Esquires through their Bar Associations report to …. tada…. the Queen. Know she is at the top of the pyramid and the Esquires knowing it or not do her bidding.
Like JS said, of which I am in total agreement – read the Act of 1871. No one is asking you for your first child, your leg or your bank account, we’re just asking, he!!, begging you to read the Act for yourself.
None of this is rocket science. It’s simply taking responsibility for your own educated journey through the morass of lies aka the matrix.
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Thanks Helen…..until the truth is exposed these cases are going NOWHERE….not because I don’t want them to but because we are not under the original Constitution and a de jure government…..everything they face in court is under de facto rule…..wake up folks and do the research……you’ve been talking here for 2 years and nothing has changed…..time to find out WHY???
Rather than “unlawful government”, since the government is dictating the law, I’d say we are now, officially, a “Post Constitutional” Republic.
Look folks, we elected the ‘President’ and the “Congress” which have appointed and confirmed the SCOTUS, which have now declared the Constitution null and void. To the extent this new government continues, and passes, executes and interprets the laws, and we live under them, we are now under a new government, the “Post-Constitional” Government.
typo, that’s “Post-Constitutional” Government
Pete,
Thanks,
But I have been in Line for 2 years… Pissed now, as I mentioned above, but I will in fact remain calm, refrain from over simplifications and will not allow a Barrier to become a hurdle in my life, it simply will not happen.
I have been challenged all throughout my life and Professional Career. I am relentless, I never give up, I always find a means, a way, a path, to improve and implement such change that always sustain positive results.
When I sought the opportunity to catch the DOJ in an absolute falsehood, mis-statement to be polite, yet an outright Lie and fabrication, I did not sit back and do nothing. When I filed with the Chris Strunk FOIA, under penalty of perjury, per my investigations, in Washington D.C., I meant it, accusing the DOJ of lying in a Federal Court is no easy task for many. For me, it was my Patriotic Duty, the least I could do.
Please, do not “Enlighten” me on what I should do or the line of order I should follow. I have, and will continue, to fight.
It has just begun….
educated – “educational”
and the Original 13th amd vanished, even after it was published for years in the Congressional record AND a court case was filed using this amd and the state WON, just after Lincoln was murdered.
and just before the Act of 1871 became law.
You see, Esquires don’t want you and me, the widdle people, to know they are indeed snakes hiding to bite in the grass. They are. At one time I thought I knew who one particular Esquire who wakes up and proceeds to post here daily who casts divisive aspersions toward any that don’t carry the official corporate line, was. I don’t. Maybe this site and his relentless dismissiveness and condescencion is part and parcel of his probation. I don’t know nor do I care.
What I do care about, deeply, is helping anyone who wishes to climb out of the matrix has fellow patriots who are read you to help them –
httpv://www.youtube.com/watch?v=te6qG4yn-Ps
I said “What I do care about, deeply, is helping anyone who wishes to climb out of the matrix has fellow patriots who are read you to help them -”
should have read – “…has fellow patriots who are READY to help”
D0 you really think this gang of evil SATANS really would let any court, rule against this MARXIST-SOCILLIST !! After almost a 100 years of planning this ! Since the age of 10 grooming “whatever his resl name is” let it all “GO DOWN THE DRAIN” ?? They have courts,Supreme Court CIA FBI military and any other agency you can think of “INFILTRATED”.
remember “MONEY TALKS —BS WALKS !!!!!!!!
I HAD SUCH HOPE AND PRAYED —UNTIL NOW
TIME TO STOP BLOGGGING——-“WAKE UP AMERICA”
GET YOUR SOUL READY,for i believe in a few years America will be no more than —–“SOVIET RUSSIA” !!!!
SORRY, it is so hard to believe it is more than—–“CHILLING”.
AS I JUST SAD____”GOD BLESS THE ONCE REPUBLIC—–“AMERICA”
JS wrote: “Thanks Helen…..until the truth is exposed these cases are going NOWHERE….not because I don’t want them to but because we are not under the original Constitution and a de jure government…..everything they face in court is under de facto rule…..wake up folks and do the research……you’ve been talking here for 2 years and nothing has changed…..time to find out WHY???”
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No need for thanks, JS. You have shown your willingness to open your mind to all possibilities for which I truly marvel. We have had this conversation numerous times over the years here at CWs and I for one am grateful you keep coming back and share with all here what you have learned.
You and I are both students who have taken the time to learn from those wiser than us. Now it is time for those who have clawed their way out of the matrix to help others.
Sir William is pissed as he should be. If we were living in a country we were told throughout our lifetimes we were supposedly living in then today’s SCOTUS decision would have been a know brainer.
FS wants us to believe SCOTUS rejected their ruling was b/c it held the corporation’s board of director’s the corporation’s CEO VP accountable, but that’s just smoke and mirrors as you and I both know.
Your bud hit the target, that is how does one remove a CEO of a corporation when there IS no such law or rule that exists. BINGO.
The sooner folks dismiss the Esquires and their allegiance to the Crown, and the sooner folks stop posting and start researching for themselves, and the sooner we can get the people to realize the crock of crap we’ve been fed over our lifetimes then the sooner we can come together and figure out how we return our beloved country to a nation ruled by constitutional law and NOT military Rules of Procedure.
Keep on learning, JS. Your mind is fertile ground. Keep it open and let the truth seep in. I, one who tangled with you more then once in the old days, am in awe of your strength and willingness to break free of the matrix’s shackles.
Here is to keeping on spreading the truth no matter how uncomfortable it makes our friends …
Pete,
After reviewing my last comment, it appears that I may have chastised you a bit harshly. That was not my necessary intent and if offended in any way shape or form, I deeply and dearly apologize to you Pete.
Frustrated, yes. But that is no excuse on my part. Again, I apologize Pete, as I understand your comment of “Get in Line’…….
Your frustrations are the same… and that is what you meant.
And yes, that would make us connected to a direct cause.
UP4LIberty said on Roots of the Usurpation-1913 at drkatesview.wordpress.com
Before I say goodnight, here’s a comment from dk’s site that was just posted. It pretty much sums up what some have expressed here today.
Peace
November 29, 2010 at 8:42 pm
In response to drkate on November 27, 2010 at 11:30 pm:
©2010 drkate Almost 100 years later, the destructive events of 1913 have come to fruition as the excruciating moment we are living in the united States, and in the form of the direct usurpation of the White House by foreigner Obama. That a usurpation has happened in our Country, given the protections outlined in the […]
Hi Dr. Kate,
Thank you for the well-researched, well-informed, and well-written article.
For the past 5 years, I have done my best as a true patriot to make many of my family members and friends aware of the facts you present (having researched this topic almost half a decade ago)..and you know what I keep running into? People think this is all a load of BS made up by conspiracy theorists – and they think I’m nuts.
It is quite saddening as an American citizen to see so many very intelligent people just completely unaware and so pathetically out of touch with the REALITY of this situation regarding the Fed and all of the absurd “progressive” – read MARXIST – legislation that was passed in the early 1900′s…;
We need an army of modern-day Henry Hazlitts more than ever…besides just Ron Paul. Dr. Paul can’t do it alone.
There are so many verifiable, historically proven examples of how our great nation has been under attack for close to 100 years…;
The very existence of the Fed being the primary example, but just look at this time line/list:
The creation of the IRS
Passage of the Social Security Act
The false flag Lusitania sinking used to drag the US into WWI
Central banks lending money to both sides of the conflict
Roosevelt’s CRIMINAL confiscation of Gold
The false “sneak” attack on Pearl Harbor the FEDS REALLY KNEW WAS COMING that was used to drag us into WWII
Central banks lending money to both sides of the conflict
The establishment of the UN and the IMF
The breakdown of Bretton-Woods
The assassination of Mossaddegh – the legitimately elected leader of Iran
The Kennedy assassinations
The attack on the USS Liberty by the Israelis
MLK’s assassination
The false flag “Gulf of Tonkin” incident used to drag us into the VietNam war
Central banks lending money to both sides of the conflict
The closing of the gold window by Nixon
GHW Bush’s “New World Order” speech
Clinton selling sensitive secrets to the Chinese
Clinton signing the repeal of the Glass-Steagall Act in 1999
911
GW Bush false claim of existence of WMD’s used to gain permission from the UN for the invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan – when the use of Marque and Reprisal could have easily been a far more effective way of pursuing the culprits responsible for the attacks…;
Collapse of our monetary system (Underway but very close…)
I mean, when you look at all of this, how could any rational American citizen think things are okay – and that the current crop of politicians / thugs / criminals should be permitted to stay in office?
All American patriots need to help awaken their fellow countrymen and women for the sake of our children and future generations…and vote out every incumbent who does not either enforce our Constitution, or does not MAKE THE CONSTITUTION LEGAL.
In Liberty,
UP4Liberty
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Amen, we truther’s are not your enemies. Instead, we are here to prick and prick and prick your consciences to the point that it begins to hurt…in your soul…because it is from the soul you strike out to learn and gain God’s wisdom.
As i e-mailed a couple of days ago,NOBAMA is probably the illigitamite son of MALCOLM X.His records are classified by the CIA and will NEVER be released they say it would be a threat to “OUR NATIONAL SECURTY”.
How in the world can SCOTUS keep sending in “UNCONSTITUTIONAL”
verdicts ??
Cannot they read the “CONSTITUTION”:
ARTICLE 2—SECTION 1—–CLAUSE 5
Both parents must be citizens to be —–a “NATURAL BORN CITIZEN”
Tell me if i’m wrong ——-BUT WHAT WEASLY B_______ THEY ALL
ARE—–AS I ALWAYS SAY FOLKS:
If you do not get paid back in this life,you will get paid back IN THE NEXT!
“GOD BLESS AMERICA AND HER PATRIOTS”
Helen and JS.
I don’t believe that this is what FS said “FS wants us to believe SCOTUS rejected their ruling was b/c it held the corporation’s board of director’s the corporation’s CEO VP accountable, but that’s just smoke and mirrors as you and I both know.”
I think that wat FS said was that Kershner did not adequately show that he had been harmed in any way. He then elaboratated about the precedent that it would set going forward in suing congress et al.
He then went to say that the other two cases should have better standing, but he is still skeptical (but hopeful) that this will result in Obama’s removal. He is more gung ho on criminal investigations in the congress and citizen’s grand juries. Correct me if I’m wrong, FS.
It’s not what FS ‘wants you to believe’, it’s his opinion. Put it through your own filter and pick and choose what you want to accept or reject.
With respect to desiring system collapse, which it appears that you both long for, as with the SDS and the WeatherUnderground of the 60’s who also dreamed about system collapse…what will fill the vacuum? Be careful for what you wish for, you just might get it.
Paxson | November 29, 2010 at 11:17 pm |
Helen and JS.
I don’t believe that this is what FS said “FS wants us to believe SCOTUS rejected their ruling was b/c it held the corporation’s board of director’s the corporation’s CEO VP accountable, but that’s just smoke and mirrors as you and I both know.”
I think that wat FS said was that Kershner did not adequately show that he had been harmed in any way. He then elaboratated about the precedent that it would set going forward in suing congress et al.
He then went to say that the other two cases should have better standing, but he is still skeptical (but hopeful) that this will result in Obama’s removal. He is more gung ho on criminal investigations in the congress and citizen’s grand juries. Correct me if I’m wrong, FS.
It’s not what FS ‘wants you to believe’, it’s his opinion. Put it through your own filter and pick and choose what you want to accept or reject.
With respect to desiring system collapse, which it appears that you both long for, as with the SDS and the WeatherUnderground of the 60′s who also dreamed about system collapse…what will fill the vacuum? Be careful for what you wish for, you just might get it.
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First of all I don’t comment to FS and secondly…..I have NO desire for anything to crash….do your research…..the majority of economist are predicting it and telling folks to get prepared…..do you ever listen to Glenn Beck…..he has been presenting the facts on this for weeks……Wake up and quit being in denial…..that won’t get you anywhere!
JS said:
Thanks Helen…..until the truth is exposed these cases are going NOWHERE….not because I don’t want them to but because we are not under the original Constitution and a de jure government…..everything they face in court is under de facto rule…..wake up folks and do the research……you’ve been talking here for 2 years and nothing has changed…..time to find out WHY???
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SCOTUS did not undermine the constitution. The United States Congress, United States Senate and the Secretary of State in all 50 states did so in November of 2008 and then again in January of 2009. In addition, the Democrat party committed fraud in order to get Barack Hussein Obama on the ballot. The Supreme Court must assume that Barack Obama was already vetted by those bodies and that he is NBC. Therefore in order to take any case, there must be standing to show that one had been harmed in some way on the illegitimate actions of those bodies and an illegal President.
Do we want a Supreme Court that arbitrarily gives anybody standing to remove the President of the United States? No. They are, hopefully, waiting for the right case or (more likely) hoping that the legislative branch upholds their oath to the constitution.
I’m not an attorney, but this is my two cents and just my observations.
http://hillbuzz.org/2010/11/29/michele-bachmanm-calls-for-full-federal-investigation-of-fraudulent-pigford-black-reparations-claims/
http://biggovernment.com/mbachmann/2010/11/29/congress-should-investigate-pigford-ii-claims-before-funding-them/
There are only 18,000 black farmers alive.
84,000 black people applied for free “Obama Money” under Pigford.
Something is not right here.
And that something leads all the way to the White House.
Jacqlyn Smith | November 29, 2010 at 11:21 pm |
First of all I don’t comment to FS and secondly…..I have NO desire for anything to crash….do your research…..the majority of economist are predicting it and telling folks to get prepared…..do you ever listen to Glenn Beck…..he has been presenting the facts on this for weeks……Wake up and quit being in denial…..that won’t get you anywhere!
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I definitely am not in denial. I do listen to Glenn Beck from time to time, but I do not need him to tell me that we are teetering on the edge. I am all for a major purge of corruption and those who perpetrate a perversion of our constitution.
The saying “a little bit of knowledge can be a dangerous thing” comes to mind.
http://hillbuzz.org/2010/11/29/asra-nomani-a-muslim-argues-for-security-profiling-of-muslims/
http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2010-11-29/airport-security-lets-profile-muslims/?cid=hp:mainpromo5
This is a must read.
Asra Nomani gets it…and says it is ridiculous to pretend Muslims aren’t the people trying to blow up airplanes.
They are.
So, she says profile them and stop strip searching kindergarteners and groping grandmothers.
If Muslims do not like being profiled, they can take this up with the terrorists in their midst and eliminate whatever it is in Islam that breeds people who want to murder thousands of innocents for Allah.
Great, great read.
http://hillbuzz.org/2010/11/29/even-worse-pigford-black-reparations-are-funded-by-cuts-to-childrens-nutrition-programs/
http://biggovernment.com/publius/2010/11/29/pigford-ii-settlement-partially-funded-by-cuts-to-children-nutrition/#idc-container
Where is the “Obama Money” that’s being given to blacks as reparations in the Pigford scam coming from?
Children’s nutrition program cuts.
Meanwhile, Obama is also now freezing military pay and looking to take social security away from large swaths of the population.
But Democrats in the House are making sure the “Obama Money” reparations pays back blacks for their race bloc support of Obama in 2008 and his continued 95% approval in the black community today.
Can’t wait. Obama’s Watergate and the end of the Democrat Party as we know it.
http://hillbuzz.org/2010/11/29/pigford-black-reparations-payments-heading-to-house-for-finalization/
http://biggovernment.com/publius/2010/11/29/ag-secy-vilsacks-legacy-pigford-ii-settlement-almost-finalized/
This is the “Obama money” that blacks were promised if they abandoned the Clintons and supported Obama instead, starting in the South Carolina Democrat primary.
Pigford, once exposed, will be Obama’s Watergate and the end of the Democrat Party as we know it.
Watch Andrew Breitbart, Michele Bachmann, Peter King, and Darryl Issa on this.
Those names will become as famous as Woodward and Bernstein’s were in the 70s.
All day a wild thought has been nagging me.
There’s been tremendous media coverage about Asange and his release of so called sensitive government documents on wikileaks. So far all what the media disclosed that was revealed on wikileaks wasn’t anything most of us didn’t already know.
What is interesting to me is the fact it appears even Asange has failed to release any documents that pertain to Obama’s eligiblity.
Wouldn’t there be some emails, Pelosi’s “certification file”, records about any of the Obama cover up –or even better some actual records from Obama’s past in this huge volume of “sensitive documents”? How obvious is this? Even Asange refuses to discuss Obama’s eligibility!
For this reason and others, I suspect the Asange scandal is just another dramatic performance to focus America’s attention while this dictatorship pulls more stunts upon us.
usapatriots-shout | November 29, 2010 at 11:44 pm |
The current Wikileaks drop contain “cables” from diplomats. I don’t think that any emails between Democrats strategizing how they are going to commit fraud on the American people would be in those cables. Perhaps a slip from a diplomat with a foreign government who may have additional information, but I don’t think much else.
Author on Fox News: Obama’s Grandmother Said Barack was born in Mombasa, Kenya
Maybe the folks who plotted/schemed to put Obama where he is now in some places overplotted, underplotted and became over arrogant (if that’s possible with this group) tried to micro-manage, control far too much and in the end lost control of it all, things are spinning out of control very fast for them. Before not too many were aware of the corrupt/inept Obama-whatever gov’t now everyone is watching for the tiniest little slip.
http://www.worldburnsclub.com/poems/translations/554.htm
But Mouse, you are not alone,
In proving foresight may be vain:
The best laid schemes of mice and men
Go often askew,
And leaves us nothing but grief and pain,
For promised joy!
I personally believe that Soetoro will be distrusted and/or despised for the rest of his life. I believe that he will be forced to fight everyday of it. Conservatives are NOT GOING TO GO AWAY,nor are we going to rollover and die out. Most of us will be continuing to fight him in every arena in which we find him. He might win a few battles but he started the war now lets seeif he has the courage to stand and fight like a man. Most people who have a good English,and grammar background can TWIST WORDS around,and make UP look like down, or left appear as right. Some are ardent habitual liars. One of them now sits in the WH.. One by one,two by two,etc, even his peers are beginning to doubt him now.
oldsalt79 | November 30, 2010 at 12:10 am |
The layers of the onion are being peeled back, one by one.
Paxson | November 29, 2010 at 11:17 pm |
I read America is not 3/4/5 trillions in debt…take all the govt. programs, future pensions, state debt, anything and everything …and it is quatrillions if we are truthful…we have run on debt, credit, borrowed funds for decades with no GDP sufficient to warrant the spending CONgress has done for many years….
So, why is it wrong to wish for the nation to go bankrupt, that system collapse is coming whether we want it or not!!!!
Start anew, a clean slate, never spend what you don’t have, abolish CONgress, states legislate states, no federal govt needed, and as the Bible says, 2 Thessalonians 3:10…that if any would not work, neither should he eat…..NO MORE WELFARE.
Scientist at Cancun Climate Summit call for WW2 type rationing in developed nations.
“In one paper Professor Kevin Anderson, Director of the Tyndall Centre for Climate Change Research, said the only way to reduce global emissions enough, while allowing the poor nations to continue to grow, is to halt economic growth in the rich world over the next twenty years. ”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/copenhagen-climate-change-confe/8165769/Cancun-climate-change-summit-scientists-call-for-rationing-in-developed-world.html
JJ | November 30, 2010 at 1:08 am |
It may be o.k. for the very young or those just starting out in life, but would wipe out the life savings of many people who worked hard all of their lives.
Paxson | November 29, 2010 at 11:17 pm |
Helen and JS.
I don’t believe that this is what FS said “FS wants us to believe SCOTUS rejected their ruling was b/c it held the corporation’s board of director’s the corporation’s CEO VP accountable, but that’s just smoke and mirrors as you and I both know.”
I think that wat FS said was that Kershner did not adequately show that he had been harmed in any way. He then elaboratated about the precedent that it would set going forward in suing congress et al.
He then went to say that the other two cases should have better standing, but he is still skeptical (but hopeful) that this will result in Obama’s removal. He is more gung ho on criminal investigations in the congress and citizen’s grand juries. Correct me if I’m wrong, FS.
It’s not what FS ‘wants you to believe’, it’s his opinion. Put it through your own filter and pick and choose what you want to accept or reject.
With respect to desiring system collapse, which it appears that you both long for, as with the SDS and the WeatherUnderground of the 60′s who also dreamed about system collapse…what will fill the vacuum? Be careful for what you wish for, you just might get it.
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Well Stated, Paxon.
I hadn’t thought about it in those terms, but helen and js’ desire to see the collapse of the USA is no different than the position of ayers, bo and ossama bin laden.
Paxson | November 29, 2010 at 11:30 pm |
SCOTUS did not undermine the constitution. The United States Congress, United States Senate and the Secretary of State in all 50 states did so in November of 2008 and then again in January of 2009. In addition, the Democrat party committed fraud in order to get Barack Hussein Obama on the ballot. The Supreme Court must assume that Barack Obama was already vetted by those bodies and that he is NBC. Therefore in order to take any case, there must be standing to show that one had been harmed in some way on the illegitimate actions of those bodies and an illegal President.
Do we want a Supreme Court that arbitrarily gives anybody standing to remove the President of the United States? No. They are, hopefully, waiting for the right case or (more likely) hoping that the legislative branch upholds their oath to the constitution.
I’m not an attorney, but this is my two cents and just my observations.
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Again, excellent analysis, Paxon.
The US Supreme court has an obligation to interpret the US Constitution. A ruling on Natural Born Citizen
is long overdue.
They damn sure have an obligation to check the power of the Executive Branch. Especially when there are compelling
questions about the eligibility of the occupant of the White House.
PS-Natural Born Citizen is in the Constitution.
Standing is not.
Cabby AZ @ 8:49 p.m., at the risk of being shrill, may I ask how you would you feel if Barry came into your town, spoke openly about wanting to be president despite his foreign birth, let it be known that he had no SS# and no bc to use to apply for a SS#, and his ‘handler’ convinced a school mate of yours that you had known since sixth grade to threaten you that if you ever spoke of the truth about his revelations, you would be discredited? How would you feel if a low-life, dope dealer who knew Barry and his people from HI was inquiring about you, what kind of person you were, where you lived, even your SS# and date of birth? How would you feel being targeted by a low life scumbag that the Decatur, IL police department were trying to convict of selling illegal drugs to high schoolers? Wouldn’t you feel that you were ‘personally’ injured, ‘personally’ insulted, ‘personally’ outraged?
Considering what Barry Obama and his ‘friends’ have done to me, I think I am being civil and rational. It is high time we turn the magnifying glass on the hairs on his head and the heads of those with whom he colluded to perpetrate this fraud upon the voters until he is scorched by a blinding light and feels the heat. May the bright light of public indignation ignite a firestorm of discomfort and scrutiny on the entire lot of them.
I gave Timothy Geithner an opportunity to explain his association with Barry and he refused to do so before the press corps and the Congress. Timmy well knows Barry’s many, many names and I can guarantee you all here that you have not seen them revealed in any document he has released on the web, nor were they stated on the DNC nominating form or any presidential election ballots.
Why was Timmy so enamored of Barry’s many, many names? He recited them over and over again with evident relish. At the time, I thought it strange that he should take such pleasure in speaking of someone he professed was not his school contemporary. Where would Tim learn Barry’s many names? From his father who spoke frequently of Barry’s full name and origins? Or, from personal contact with Barry at an embassy or other venue? And, do you think it a mere coincidence that Barry named Timmy as his Treasury pick? Are the American people not entitled to some transparency on Barry’s bona fides, any prior relationship he may have had with Peter Geithner, SAD’s boss and any prior knowledge/relationship Tim might have had with Barry? It is time for these people to answer the obvious, glaring questions on the minds of the public and to mitigate or justify their secrecy and actions. And, at the risk of sounding like Madame DuFarge, I’d like the dirtbag who ran the hippie shop questioned about whether Barry delivered drugs to him from FMD or Gramps. After all, Barry had applied for and received a SS# from HI before he applied for and used the CT SS# on his draft registration. Why should the CT SS# be used as an alterantive number, but to evade detection, perhaps from some illegal act or criminal citation? How many SS# do you use? And, how many SS# would the United States government allow you to use without investigation?
Rational, concerted pressure on these people, an absolute insistence that they explain themselves is my primary goal. To me, this matter will always be personal because they made it personal. It is an affront to my personal dignity and personal security. To you, it is a matter of national trust and national security without the sting of searing proximity. I have no power to incite you to do anything, nor would I ask anyone here or in this country to break any law or perpetrate violence against any of these people. But, I would ask that the media finally fulfill their obligation to report on this crisis. The fraud perpetrated upon the voters in the last election will be repeated in the next election unless we are able to do something to stem these evasions. Barry Obama is but the tip of the iceberg here; if the nbc clause is void then we have no way to prevent Putin from seeding a successor to the Obama legacy in the near future. I have been more than generous and measured in my assessment of the risks presented by these people’s secrecy and evasion of the safeguards put in place to avoid the appearance or fact of collusion or conspiracy.
citizenwells | November 30, 2010 at 8:11 am |
I’m on your side CW, I was just as disappointed as you. I’m just trying to remove my emotions from the analysis and think critically about options.
No problem Paxson.
Agreement is not mandatory or expected.
citizenwells | November 30, 2010 at 11:25 am |
Good always wins in the end, right? Well, let’s hope so.
“When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.”
Edmund Burke
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Cabby @ 8:49 p.m., I hope you did not misinterpret my comment above as directing any hostility towards you. My apologies to you if this was the case. This certainly was not my intention, although, when I speak of their tactics (intimidating a teenager with ruin), I am filled with contempt for Barry’s handler’s methods. My comment was merely directed to you because you cautioned posters about inciting violence. Inciting violence, I believe, is exactly what they want us to do. Declaring martial law may be part of the solution to the man-made catastrophe that they have created.