Eric Zorn, Chicago Tribune, Because a Constitutional crisis is just what this nation needs right now

Eric Zorn, Chicago Tribune, Because a Constitutional crisis is just what this nation needs right now

“Why has Obama, for over 2 years, employed numerous private and government attorneys to avoid presenting a legitimate birth certificate and college records?”…Citizen Wells and millions of concerned Americans

When I heard Glenn Beck insult millions of concerned Americans and military officers on his radio show, I thought that was one of the most insensitive, stupidest things I had ever heard. Is Eric Zorn related to Glenn Beck? Do they both have the stupid gene?

From Eric Zorn of the Chicago Tribune November 24, 2010.

“Because a Constitutional crisis is just what this nation needs right now”

“And since one must be a “natural-born citizen” to be president and   Barack Obama’s father was not, as everyone acknowledges,  a U.S. citizen, the whackjobs who have been unsuccessful in their “he was born in Kenya!” effort, are now hoping that the U.S. Supreme Court will help in their cause to declare him ineligible to hold office.”

Read more:

http://blogs.chicagotribune.com/news_columnists_ezorn/2010/11/vattel.html

On the one hand, for a micro second, I want to congratulate Zorn for mentioning the Kerchner v Obama lawsuit being before the Supreme Court. But that feeling quickly evaporates when I digest the way he dismissed those questioning Obama as being “whackjobs.” He displays a total lack of understanding about Obama’s eligibility issues and the Kerchner case.

First of all, we don’t know where in the hell Obama was born, since he has avoided presenting a legitimate birth certificate. Secondly, Zorn has got some nerve calling a retired naval commander, LTC Terry Lakin, multiple generals and millions of concerned Americans “whackjobs.”

Eric Zorn, we have a constitutional crisis now, due to people like you in the media not doing your journalistic job.

Eric Zorn, call me. Get your facts straight before making an ass out of yourself.

Eric Zorn, why don’t you ask the question above?

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136 responses to “Eric Zorn, Chicago Tribune, Because a Constitutional crisis is just what this nation needs right now

  1. This link continues where the above radio show link leaves off:

  2. Ted …………………………………….
    I recently contacted,and talked with a California practicing attorney who had once been the operations officer of a particular ship that I served on in the Navy. I had always found him to be an astute,knowledgeable,and well informed officer in our chain of command. To my absolute surprise and dismay I discovered that today he is POORLY informesd,and clearly demonstrates a propensity to remain that way. I couldn’t believe what I heard him say. “He has never heard of LtC Lakin,or Commander Kerchner. Further more he firmly believes that the alleged POTUS IS the legal CINC. I exchange a little small talk regarding our past alma mater,said Happy Thanksgiving followed by Good day,because I knew at that point that I was talking to an OBOT. He is 73 years of age.

  3. Up to a point Eric Zorn could be right. While I condemn his remarks regarding his view of commissionesd officers of our military, I will reiterate his view that a Constitutional crisis might be necessary. I have a little news for him though; ……………the Constitutional crisis already exists. Apparently he doesn’t yet know it.

  4. Often just as much can be accurately concluded as a result of that which people DO NOT SAY, as opposed to what they say. Largely this has been the case where Soetoro is concerned. Of course I hasten to add that this is tempered in part by his own remarks, in his own book.

  5. Thanks Zach.

  6. Today being Blaxck Friday,and a lot of stores offerring “STUFF”at allegesd super low prices, it sort of makes me wonder …..WHO THE HELL HAS ANY MONEY TO SPEND ON GREAT DEALS. I would think that anybody having money to spend would probably be one of Soetoro’s employees. After January 1st 2011, a lot of people are going to have EVEN LESS MONEY to spend. As each day passes the likelihood escalates, and it will drive the final nail in Soetoro’s political coffin.

  7. “Because a Constitutional crisis is just what this nation needs right now”
    To me the Constitutional crisis began as soon as an illegal entity assumed the job without the credentials or proof of credentials that the job qualifications entail.
    re: Nixon when did his Constitutional crisis begin, with the Watergate break-in? when he had knowledge of it? when he lied about it? which helped in his re-election? when he started with the cover-ups and everything else that came to light? patriots had to dig the information out then too, because the government wasn’t releasing anything. Abuse of power now, same as then.
    Say we were all working in a bank and it was super busy, and bank robbers came in with machine guns and threats. What would you say to the robbers we really don’t need a bank robbery right now? I’m sure the robbers would get a giggle out of that. Interchangeable or you decide your own citizenship is not the law of the land, the problem is the laws have not been enforced-hence many illegal aliens “think” they are citizens others just blithely ignore the law-then have a fit when they are arrested/deported.
    You have to take your Constitutional crises (Obama not the first) as they come, convenient or not, because WE are a nation of laws and I believe the WE means every citizen no matter their position, government workers are not exempt. Maybe while restoring our Constitutional Republic we can also restore the honor of American citizenship, which has been sorely degraded.

  8. From my DIRTY LITTLE TRAILER, IN SLIME CITY BYE BYE ALL! I’M out of here. Baby sitting today! Or rather KID sitting!.

  9. we not only have a constitutional crisis we also have a national security crisis. obama the usurpur is a traitor and cannot be trusted.

  10. IMO, the constitutional crisis is the result of an inept judiciary which has shirked its responsibility in ruling on the merits of all challenges to BHO’s eligibility. Had they taken a stand to uphold the Constitution when the first case was brought before them, they could have addressed the question of NBC definition and this would have ended.

    Whether Obama is or is not eligible for the Office of the Presidency based on natural born citizen status is a valid legal question and not a conspiracy theory. An issue as to whether someone is constitutionally qualified to be President according to the requirements specified in the Constitution deserves due process and due diligence.

    “It is most true that this court will not take jurisdiction if it should not: but it is equally true, that it must take jurisdiction if it should. The judiciary cannot, as the legislature may, avoid a measure because it approaches the confines of the constitution. We cannot pass it by because it is doubtful. With whatever doubts, with whatever difficulties, a case may be attended, we must decide it, if it be brought before us. We have no more right to decline the exercise of jurisdiction which is given, than to usurp that which is not given. The one or the other would be treason to the constitution. Questions may occur which we would gladly avoid; but we cannot avoid them. All we can do is, to exercise our best judgment, and conscientiously to perform our duty. In doing this, on the present occasion, we find this tribunal invested with appellate jurisdiction in all cases arising under the constitution and laws of the United States. We find no exception to this grant, and we cannot insert one.”
    — Supreme Court Chief Justice John Marshall in Cohens vs. Virginia (1821)

  11. eddie h. @ 11:39 am |
    From the dawn of time no traitors have ever been trusted, before Obama Judas being the most notorious of them all.

  12. Philo-Publius @ 11:42 am |
    “Questions may occur which we would gladly avoid; but we cannot avoid them”
    Well this group has that gladly avoid down to a science.

  13. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/11/24/military-pegs-hourly-air-force-cost-g-obama-sets-travel-record/?cmpid=prn_baynote-js_Military_Pegs_Hourly_Air_Force_One_Cost_at_181G_as_Obama_Sets_Travel_Record

    The U.S. military has provided an updated estimate on that cost, first published by a taxpayer watchdog group and confirmed by FoxNews.com, and the number is staggering — $181,757 per hour. That’s the price tag for shuttling around President Obama, who, as it turns out, has spent more days abroad in his first two years than any other president.

  14. Dr Jerome Corsi Exposes Cancer Risks From TSA Full Body Scanners

  15. (pulled over from yesterday’s Thanksgiving thread)
    ms.helga | November 26, 2010 at 8:03 am |
    GORDO | November 26, 2010 at 2:30 am |

    “Is Obama the secret son of Malcolm X?”

    _______________________________________________

    That then poses an even bigger question – Does that make him legitimate as a NBC?
    **************************************
    Ms. Helga – Having read several articles re. Dr. Ron Polland’s theories (sites posted yesterday), I have to say the entire matter is very confusing, BUT one thing looms big – Regardless of whether he turns out to be an NBC or not, he is as guilty as sin for multiple forgeries, misrepresentations, fraud, and other crimes linked to the coverup. It is very doubtful that he was born in this country (as per Dr. Polland), however. Congress should investigate those issues, but I doubt if it will.

    The similarity between O and Malcolm X is definitely there. I know there is the question about X being against multiple wives, etc., BUT that doesn’t mean that he didn’t “slip” at one time, which would be all the more reason why X would secretly want his “son” to gain stature with a good education, etc. Here is a link that Gordo posted yesterday:

    http://israelinsider.net/profiles/blogs/is-obama-the-secret-son-of

    Now even though this was written just before the presidential election, it does set forth some interesting, possible background re. the Malcolm X theory that is worth a read, if you desire. One thing it explains for me: Why did so many influential, wealthy people take such an interest in this particular young man so EARLY on (I mean in the 70’s)? There had to be some purpose behind it all, and it wasn’t the New World Order setting its sights on a fledging, pot-smoking, mediocre student at that point in his or our history.

  16. I didn’t betray my country; my country betrayed me. Whatever Puffin’ Stuff is hiding, and I believe I already know most of what that is, he’ll get ample protection from Kagan and Wise Latina. Frank Marshall Davis’ brainwashing techniques caused Barry to intone the admission that he wasn’t born here, but wanted to be POTUS anyhow, like an automatic statement. Perhaps, one day, some reporter will ask Tim the Treasurer to recite Barry’s many, many names. Zorn couldn’t find the truth if it ran over him. Red Rover, Red Rover send Barry right over to make a START Treaty with Russia with undisclosed terms. How I wish I could trust these people, but they give me zero reason to do so.

  17. >>>Lillibet: “I didn’t betray my country; my country betrayed me.”

    That’s kind of the way I feel about it.
    Pete

  18. From an earlier thread:

    https://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2010/11/25/thanksgiving-2010-citizen-wells-challenge-to-glenn-beck-glenn-beck-thanksgiving-challenge/#comment-169856

    “MRS. RONDEAU: Do you have any ideas of where that could be?

    DR. POLLAND: My first choice is an Arab country in North Africa. Second choice is Ghana.

    MRS. RONDEAU: Why is that?

    DR. POLLAND: Because of where this individual was who may be his father.”
    ==============
    “Malcolm X visited the continent of Africa for the first time in his life in May, 1964. He had just finished his Hajj, or pilgrimage, to Mecca, where he changed his name to El-Hajj Malik El-Shabbaz. He was to return to the continent later that year, and stayed for 18 months. The two trips took Malcom X to several countries in Africa, including Algeria, Morocco, Egypt, Nigeria, Ghana, and Senegal, among others.”

    http://mlauzi.blogspot.com/2006/05/malcolm-x-and-pan-africanism-today.html
    ==============
    Morph of Barack O to Malcolm X:

    http://tinyurl.com/2ea53sc

  19. Amazing likeness Obama and Malcom X Scroll down see pics
    http://www.peoplespassions.org

    Even if he is his father,he was adopted and became an Indonesian,Barry Soretto.Maybe his collage records and students loans are sealed is because,perhaps he came here as a foreign student??

    JESSE VENTURA TONIGHT 9 AND ALSO 10 EST TRU,T-V RECORD,PASS ON GREAT SHOWS

  20. A good synopsis on the background of the NOI here:
    http://www.jtf.org/america/america.black.muslim.history.htm
    Near the middle of the article it says that Malcolm X’s conversion to true Islam caused him to reform his opinion that all white devils must be exterminated and amended that position to wage war against unbelieviers of all colors. And then this interesting tidbit appears:
    “The Bolshevik news media in America immediately hailed Malcolm X’s new “moderate” and “tolerant” philosophy, which merely called for exterminating all non-Muslims, but would spare whites who converted to Islam.”
    Just another coincidence that Mislam, Communists and NOI are all in bed together ideologically

  21. We really don’t know anything about AKA Obama.

    People talk about Frank Marshal Davis, and the influence he had over little Barry’s life, and yet, we don’t even know if this ever really happened. There are photoshoped pictures to manufacture a family, and a history,for AKA Obama. Where does reality begin, and fiction end?

    After watching the latest Dr Polland video, I have come to realize, nothing we have been told about Obama is true. The whole life history of Obama is just a made up story, to make it appear he grew up in Hawaii. As it stands right now I have to rethink everything I thought I knew about the life history of the mystery man AKA Obama.

    Think about it, why would someone have to photoshop a bunch of photos to place Obama in scenes that never happened?

    Someone is trying to pull the wool over our eyes. We will be amazed if we ever learn the whole truth about this fraud, and it certainly deserves investigation, and a special prosecutor.

  22. Found this post on CL (interesting, if true?)

    Your boy Obama wasn’t eligible to take the bar as he flunked a key 3rd year course in law school. He was fired from a senior intern position w/a private firm for incompetence. His complex derives from someone telling him frankly, not correctly. He went to Acorn for a job because he knew he couldn’t find one. His stint at Chicago Law was similar to one in a community outreach program on weekends, and didn’t require a license. He boasted ’til his 20’s that being born in Africa would help his job chances. He wouldn’t divulge his tax returns because…..(he made more than the book paid). (And Ayres had to be paid too. Who wants the questions?).

  23. hapnHal,

    What is CL?

    thanks

  24. bob strauss @ 2:01 pm |
    “We really don’t know anything about AKA Obama. ”
    especially anything that remotely resembles the truth. Obama/minions decided to go with the bogus COLB and all that bogus information, since he ran in the election on that information I think they are stuck with it-anything else drives home the word LIAR, with fraud upon fraud-lies and cover-ups. But now I have another question if Stanley Ann was 17 at the time would she have been under the age of consent meaning RAPE-so no matter who the “father” is he would be in the eyes of the law a rapist-does the statute of limitations run out on rape? Maybe that’s why they picked Obama Sr. as the winner in this lottery. Whole bunch of lying going on.

  25. bob strauss 2:01 PM
    Someone is trying to pull the wool over our eyes. We will be amazed if we ever learn the whole truth about this fraud, and it certainly deserves investigation, and a special prosecutor.
    ****************************
    I couldn’t agree more. In fact, whatever Congress and judges may have been told (in order for them to stay away from the issue) could well have been a pack of lies also. We have been duped, and a complicit media has aided and abetted.

  26. Another post from Free Republic. Lot’s of good info here!

    “The List, Obama’s Ninety Sixth Week in Office”

    A lot of work went into the listing. Worth reading…

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2633323/posts

  27. What is CL?

  28. “What is CL?”

    http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/pol/2079400554.html

    “Your boy obama wasn’t eligible to take the bar as he flunked a key 3rd year course in law school. He was fired from a senior intern position w/a private firm for incompetence. …”

  29. Michelle | November 26, 2010 at 2:24 pm |

    bob strauss @ 2:01 pm |
    “We really don’t know anything about AKA Obama. ”
    especially anything that remotely resembles the truth. Obama/minions decided to go with the bogus COLB and all that bogus information, since he ran in the election on that information I think they are stuck with it-anything else drives home the word LIAR, with fraud upon fraud-lies and cover-ups. But now I have another question if Stanley Ann was 17 at the time would she have been under the age of consent meaning RAPE-so no matter who the “father” is he would be in the eyes of the law a rapist-does the statute of limitations run out on rape? Maybe that’s why they picked Obama Sr. as the winner in this lottery. Whole bunch of lying going on.
    **********************************************************
    Michelle who knows? The whole Stanley Ann story may be 100% fiction.
    As it appears, we really don’t know what the truth is, only what we have been told, by people willing to commit fraud against the United States, and it’s people. I don’t know who is in charge of security, of America, but they better get their ass in gear or get out of the way of the investigation.

  30. Thanks, Gordo. CL makes sense now.

    I wonder who posted that?

  31. Sorry, CL = Craigs List Washington DC “politics”
    You can find the good, bad, and ugly on this site.

  32. Cabby – AZ @ 2:25 pm |
    “I couldn’t’t agree more. In fact, whatever Congress and judges may have been told (in order for them to stay away from the issue) could well have been a pack of lies also. We have been duped, and a complicit media has aided and abetted.”
    Yes, a different story/fiction for each group-but people were NOT willing dupes they were questioning these fictions long before the election.
    In a way some of this may be good: they have changed the story so many times, doctored the COLB more than once, different stories for different occasions that I don’t think they can keep track of them any more. The truth would have been ONE story and it would have been consistent through out but they decided to go another way, the bottom line is you cannot trust Obama/minions with anything. I never believed a word they said and Obama is famous for his “just words”-truth/lie seem immaterial to him. Seems to me that Nixon and all of his henchmen made the same mistakes-the lies and the cover-ups which were illegal.

  33. I just wonder who wrote that on CL. That is really interesting.

  34. Michelle | November 26, 2010 at 2:41 pm |

    Cabby – AZ @ 2:25 pm |
    “I couldn’t’t agree more. In fact, whatever Congress and judges may have been told (in order for them to stay away from the issue) could well have been a pack of lies also. We have been duped, and a complicit media has aided and abetted.”
    ***************************************
    They were going according to the CRS memos that were written to make Obama appear NBC, no one paid attention to the other side of the story because that’s where the “birthers lurked”, that “evil” place called the truth of the matter. The truth is, we don’t know what the truth is.

  35. ‘Unthinking anger’?
    by Joseph Farah

    “The Boston Globe thinks 58 percent of Americans are “mindless” because they express grave doubts about Barack Obama’s constitutional eligibility for office.

    In an editorial reflecting the official opinion of the newspaper Nov. 10, the Globe stated that the “conspiracy theory about Obama’s birth certificate” is an expression “of unthinking anger.”

    “A mindless conspiracy theory representing an expression of unthinking anger”?

    What is the “conspiracy theory” being put forward by American citizens who want to understand the countless contradictions between Obama’s official narrative of his life and reality?

    It’s very insulting and very ill-informed when press establishments like the Globe take such positions – especially in an editorial lecturing the people about being “statesmanlike.”

    This issue of Obama’s eligibility is not going away – no matter how much the press wishes it away.”

    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=231769

  36. kittycat77 @ 2:46 pm |
    Kittycat-my best guess coming from Chicago, is that this was someone near him in school, who probably did things the right way, the hard way and has had this sticking in his craw for a long time. Most likely some Chicago guy (my best guess black) that is sick and tired of hearing how great and wonderful Obama is while knowing the guy is a complete fraud. Can you imagine the garbage black husbands have to hear about this fool?

  37. Michelle – 2:41 PM
    In a way some of this may be good: they have changed the story so many times, doctored the COLB more than once, different stories for different occasions that I don’t think they can keep track of them any more.
    ************************************
    Somehow these liars think that we all are so dumb that we will take anything they say. That’s the way progressives/communists are. Of course, many citizens in our country are willing dupes because they don’t want to be bothered with the facts. You know the old saying, “My mind is made up; don’t bother me with the facts. ” Now we have a fine kettle of fish to deal with. I just pray that somehow, some way the TRUTH will eventually come out – sooner rather than later.

  38. CW – So much for freedom of speech at the Tribune. I tried to comment this and they refused it.

    “Give this some thought.
    Why are no Republican conservative talk show hosts mentioning the eligibility issue and in fact going along with the liberals in accusing us of being “nutcases” and “Birthers”? Read the following” –

    Thursday, March 13, 2008 (Notice the date)

    SPECIAL ‘CLOSED SESSION’ OF U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES DISCUSSED A LOT MORE THAN THE PENDING SECURITY SURVEILLANCE PROVISIONS!

    This was only the fourth time in 176 years that Congress has closed its doors to the public. What was it that they were discussing that they do NOT
    want us to know about?

    I believe the most important discussion had to do with the eligibility of BOTH CANDIDATES. Both parties had questionable areas and time was of essence. BOTH PARTIES ARE IN THIS UP TO THEIR EYEBALLS.

    continued ..

    1. the imminent collapse of the U.S. economy to occur by September 2008,

    2. the imminent collapse of US federal government finances by February 2009,

    3. the possibility of Civil War inside the USA as a result of the collapse,

    4. advance round-ups of ‘insurgent U.S. citizens’ likely to move against the government,

    5. the detention of those rounded-up at ‘REX 84′ camps *(see Below) constructed throughout the USA,

    6. the possibility of retaliation against members of Congress for the collapses,

    7. the location of ‘safe facilities’ for members of Congress and their families to reside during expected massive civil unrest,

    8. the necessary and unavoidable merger of the United States with Canada (for its natural resources) and with Mexico (for its cheap labor pool),

    9. the issuance of a new currency – THE AMERO (do a Google search) – for all three nations as the proposed solution to the coming economic Armageddon.

    READ #7 – LIKE RATS ON A SINKING SHIP

    Educate yourself

    http://educate-yourself.org/cn/mediablackoutclosedsessioncongress20may08.shtml

  39. GORDO @ 2:50 pm |
    but isn’t our entire legal system based on the truth, or the quest of it ie. Discovery in criminal cases, perjury if you’re dumb enough to lie in the Judges face.
    “58 percent of Americans are “mindless” – will not be satisfied until they see the truth. I wonder if people heard this same garbage when they were trying to cover-up Watergate. Notice all the lying was on the government side, the people and the press at that time were asking questions but getting very dishonest answers, if answered at all. Same threats, intimidation by the government.
    “This issue of Obama’s eligibility is not going away – no matter how much the press wishes it away.”

  40. Al Sharpton Wants FCC to Ban Rush Limbaugh
    http://www.newsmax.com/InsideCover/sharpton-fcc-limbaugh-fox/2010/11/24/id/378094?s=al&promo_code=B2FD-1

    “You’ve got to remember that those stations that Rush Limbaugh is on and others are regulated by FCC, granted by FCC; they go back to them to get waivers,” Sharpton said on his own radio show on Nov. 19th.
    ****************************
    So what else is new? “Kill” the messenger. Fox has also been under attack by the left.

  41. Now’s the time for the Constitutional Party

    The Democrat Party – Nothing But Politicians
    The Republican Party – Nothing But Politicians
    The Constitutional Party – THE LAW OF THE LAND

  42. Question…
    Do you think the North Korea situation could be an intentional “distraction” … as the eligibility case is being conferred in the Supreme Court (Kerchner) this weekend? ( do you remember when Biden, in 2008, said that he didn’t know when , but a crisis would occurr ..and that we would not like intitally what Obama does, but would eventually come to accept it….? Please refresh my memory….!)

  43. “Distraction” may be the wrong word…perhaps “propellant” or “ignition”?

  44. Happn’ Hal @ 2:10, Hambama was on the staff listing for SNR, a Chicago law firm with multiple offfices nationwide in 2000, and had an auxiliary office there that he dropped into when he was in that area of the city. I remember one of the staff recounting that she thought he was born in Kenya, and that she didn’t know why he was still on the staff roster because he was never there. She said that he had once been at the firm in any real capacity for several years since he left to pursue other projects. Needless to say, you can guess that the law firm was a bastion of radicals and leftists. SNR was a DNC stronghold, involved in liberal causes and advancing a progressive agenda. Three-hour lunches and stretches of being awol were common amongst the counselors there. Their corporate culture encouraged criticism for conservative family/religious values. Since I try to practice restraint from criticizing others, I will say that all of my former assertions are the kindest things I can say about his bunch. While I am not a fundamentalist Christian, if the winds shift and push comes to shove (to paraphrase Hambama), I’ll side with my Christian brethren against the religion of peace. It came as no surprise when i learned of Hambama’s radical connections; his old pals at SNR fit right into the mold with him. Perhaps, his name was on the roster because he was receiving a paycheck from the firm for advancing party causes.
    In 2007, he may have been posting or lurking at the JihadWatch site run by Robert Spencer and announced he was considering a run for office. Spencer’s site does a commendable job of informing the public about Muslim teachings and activities against infidels worldwide. Barky just can’t stop appologizing for that great religion, can he? Maybe he doesn’t like the true nature of such a ‘great religion’ to be disclosed to average readers, but I do and that is why I stirred up the waters over there to attract attention. It is strange indeed, that he came from a law firm where conservative family values and organized religion were frowned upon, but he continually holds up Mislam as a great beacon of light. Forewarned is for forearmed, as they say.

  45. Who does Sharpton really work for.He stirs up a lot of trouble.
    Fox needs to stop having him on their shows!
    Get rid of his radio show!!

  46. Truth Now | November 26, 2010 at 3:22 pm |
    Who does Sharpton really work for.He stirs up a lot of trouble.
    Fox needs to stop having him on their shows!
    Get rid of his radio show!!
    ************************************
    He does stir up trouble, that’s for sure. He owns his own network, I think, so if we believe in 1st Amendment rights for Patriots we must allow him to broadcast as he wills. However, I agree that Fox should opt to not have him on as often. He is such a flaming liberal and I cannot see anything of value that he ever brings to the table.

  47. Sorry CW, this is a bit off topic, BUT it is so interesting, I just had to share:

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/11/26/obama-needs-stitches-hurt-basketball-game/

    barry takes a shot in the mouth during a basketball pickup game, doctor puts in 12 stitches, and just look at the photo. NO BLOOD. He is holding a small piece of gauze in his hand as he heads to his vehicle.

    I once took an elbow to my lip and I was bleeding EVERYWHERE, face, hands, shirt, ground, etc. All for 4 stitches. And barry needs 12 and looks like he is fine????

    Just WTH is this guy? Mystery man, doesn’t bleed, flies land on him at will, rats show up at his speeches. What is occupying our White House?

  48. Clarifying a few typos/mistakes:
    She said that he hadn’t once been in the office on a regular basis since he left several years ago to pursue other projects.
    ‘His’ bunch is ‘this’ bunch.

  49. Gordo……………………….Ref; 2:50 PM…….
    Just $20.00 would make it ALL go away,or CONFIRM our worst fears. So far Soetoro has been unwilling to spend the $20,00. Yet he was willing,and did spend nearly two million to AVOID having to spend the $20.00. Does that sound like a pinnacle of INNOCENCE?

  50. CA Patriot, we don’t know because Steve Dunham/Barry Soetoro/Barack Obama regrets that he has no birth certificate to give to his country. I didn’t betray my country; my country betrayed me. Social justice, my ar…. Marxist coup!

  51. Lillibet @ 3:57 pm |
    So much of this is so idiotic-Obama is so catch me if you can. What if he was pretending to be a brain surgeon, heart surgeon, rocket scientist, airline pilot-they would demand to see some credentialing-schools attended and much more-but it’s ok if you fraud your way into the potus position and get irritable when asked-plus the COLB is not proof as they pretend it to be. I wonder if much of this is not about EGOS, they (gov’t-media) can’t believe they have been duped by a common ordinary South Side hood slum landlord? I say get over all of yourselves, because when you do that you’re aiding and abetting.

  52. CA Patriot @ 3:53 pm |
    CA Patriot-Hillbuzz take on it-trouble in loveland?
    http://hillbuzz.org/2010/11/26/trouble-in-paradise-obama-needed-twelve-stitches-today-after-playing-basketball-with-unidentified-men/
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40384019/ns/politics-white_house/
    Was it Reggie Love?
    Was it Kal Penn?
    Was it Alexi Giannoulias?
    Which of Obama’s “basketball buddies” smacked him across the face so hard he needed twelve stitches?
    Was it really during a basketball game?
    Or was it a “basketball game”?

  53. One explanation is that the cut is inside the mouth, caused by the force of an elbow compressing his flesh against his teeth. This is a common injury in basketball. This could explain why there is not much blood visible outside.

    I have played basketball for 45 years in a variety of venues including college. I had seen videos of Zero play. He is basically a weak player with only two moves; a wide open jump shot and a weak drive to his left. Very easy to defend him. But I suspect most just let him coast, he is POTUS for now. I will look forward to seeing how his fellow inmates treat him in prison.

    We regular readers of Eric Zorn’s column in the Trib know him as the bane of all except radical liberals. For example, he agrees with Zero’s stance on partial birth abortion. It is some kind of signal that something is up that he would even mention the eligibility controversy. Someone is getting nervous.

  54. CABBYAZ
    Sharpton is little more than a complete moron. I have researched him and have never been able to determine even his level of education. Judging from his command of grammar he doesn’t have much education at all. To my knowledge he has no formal employer. My best guess is that he is an understudy of Jesse Jackson who is skilled only at SHAKING COMPANIES,and ORGANISATIONS DOWN. I seriously doubt that either Sharpton,or Jackson have any formal education. I could be wrong. Just my opinion.

  55. Bill G @ 4:28 pm |
    “Someone is getting nervous”, let’s hope-gosh I haven’t read the Trib since I lived there. I still wonder if Obama wasn’t set up to snag the Olympics-the South Side is worthless except for the land, so that is why they would buy up all those terrible buildings for cheap and just sit on them-plus generate some cash in rent during– knowing it would be Section 8 money and never fix the buildings to make them livable-who would the people complain to? Also the thing with the O’Hare runway which left Bensenville (my hometown) all boarded up. Was the extra runway for the Olympics? Did they think it was in the bag? Someone got bought? and I do mean the Olympics committee but these plans went awry as we know now.

  56. Open Letter To Congress

    When you take office as a public servant you swear an oath before God and man. This oath you take is a sacred trust. It is your word and your honor spoken in public for all to bear witness. Your adherence to your oath is the measure of your integrity.

    Your solemn oath of office is to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States of America against all enemies foreign and domestic. God has surely taken note of your oath and will judge you according to the integrity of your soul.

    As a natural born citizen of this great nation that I love, I request that you honor your word by protecting and defending Article 2 Section 1 of the Constitution you swore before God that you would defend. The aforementioned article has come under attack from within. And as a result, the freedoms to which your oath applied are all at risk of disappearing, including the very Constitution you swore to protect.
    Millions of brave Americans gave their lives for the freedoms that our Constitutional rule of law has provided and has sustained us through the years as the greatest nation the world has ever seen. They also swore the same oath and their honor and integrity are intact without question. Let not their sacrifices be for naught.

    Our brave men and women of the Armed Forces today go into harms way without the assurance that the orders coming down the unified chain of command are legal and lawful because there are lingering questions as to the eligibility of the Commander In Chief to issue them. One brave soldier, Lt. Col. Terry Lakin, has tried to get an answer through normal military channels without success. He finally made the distasteful choice to invite his own court martial in order to get an answer to the question to finally put an end to the doubts and concerns of his fellow soldiers in arms. In this action he is doing exactly as he was trained to do.

    Lt. Col. Terry Lakin is an 18 year highly decorated Bronze Star recipient who served tours in Bosnia and Afghanistan. He has the support of three Generals, Army Major General (Ret) Jerry Curry, U.S. Army Major General (Ret) Paul E. Valalley and Air Force Lieutenant General (Ret) Thomas McInerney. General McInerney has submitted to the court an affidavit of support for discovery and a full hearing. In spite of the plea from Three Star Lt. General McInverney, Lakin is being denied due process by Judge Lind who has ruled that Lakin cannot defend himself in any way whatsoever because she will not “embarrass the President” to show his vital records, and prove his eligibility under Article 2 Section 1. As a result of that ruling Lt. Col. Terry Lakin faces years at hard labor because he might expose high treason against the people of the United States of America and the Constitution you swore to protect and defend.

    If ever there was a time for you to honor your oath with right action it is now. And there is an easy answer for your personal concerns about your oath and your integrity. If Obama is truly eligible to hold office and can prove it, your honor and integrity are intact, because you have done your duty to your word and your honor while performing a service to end the lingering doubts as to the lawfulness of orders coming down the unified chain of command. If on the other hand, Obama cannot produce proof of eligibility, then you have exposed and rescued the nation from acts of high treason, and your honor and your integrity will be intact. Either way you come out of it a hero and with your integrity intact. I ask you to be reminded of the courage and bravery of the millions who died to protect and defend our Constitution, and in that, find within yourself the courage to act with the same bravery and conviction of those who paved the way for the very freedoms you enjoy today.

    Remember, if due process can be denied Lt. Col Terry Lakin, it can be denied you also.

    Sincerely,

    A Natural Born Citizen of the United States of America

  57. oldsalt79 @ 4:38 pm |
    It’s sad about Al, I heard him speaking the other day-between the message, the mumbling and possible speech impediment I could not imagine what he was talking about. One thing I do notice they keep repeating the same tired tune all the time. Al-Civil Rights was passed-I don’t get this perceived abuse racket they have going on. I have worked with many black folks all my life and none have ever talked like this, for the most part all have been educated and articulate and if they were not and they needed help or an explanation of a concept they didn’t understand they asked for it.

  58. O/T but y’all might want to keep track:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/financetopics/financialcrisis/8160999/EU-rescue-costs-start-to-threaten-Germany-itself.html

    “Germany cannot keep paying for bail-outs without going bankrupt itself,” said Professor Wilhelm Hankel, of Frankfurt University. “This is frightening people. You cannot find a bank safe deposit box in Germany because every single one has already been taken and stuffed with gold and silver. It is like an underground Switzerland within our borders. People have terrible memories of 1948 and 1923 when they lost their savings.”

  59. CW – Hear the metaphor for “We Are Starting To Roll”
    This should bring fond memories to my fellow Old Timers.

    [audio src="http://www.sounddogs.com/sound-effects/40/mp3/418298_SOUNDDOGS__st.mp3" /]

  60. 68truthseeker……………………………………
    Regarding your comment at 12:15PM. If the radiation allegedly being emitted by the new TSA wands, is the same as the radiation generated by xray devices, it is IONISING RADIATION and CAPABLE of causing at least 23 different forms of cancer,as ADMITTED BY THE US GOVERNMENT several years ago. Those of us who participated in support activities at the 1954 Eniwetok H tests recieved varying levels of IONISING RADIATION,and many of us inhaled CESIUM 137 which is a by product of nuclear FISSION. The half life of Cesium 137 is over 50 years.This was all around ue because there was several MISTAKES made immediately prior to the INFAMOUS BRAVO test which ultimately contaminated over 7000 square miles of the Southern Pacific Marshall Islands. Many of the native tribes had to be relocated to more distant islands and even today the islands from which they were evacuated are STILL too HOT for HUMAN occupancy. The US Government is also STILL PAYING for the mistakes. But damn few people are aware of it. Sadly the USS Bairoko CVE 115 was literally plastered with CESIUM 137. The ship was so hot that the crew had to be removed,and the ship was “COLD IRONED”,and towed back to Bremerton,where it took a complete SANDBLASTING and REPAINT to get the RADIATION down to a safe level. In those days we had a normal atmospheric radiation of about 12 MILLI ROENTGENS,and any absorption of radioactivity in excess of 20 milliroengtens per hour was seen as dangerous. I personally received nearly 100 ROENGTENS, (NOT MILLI ROENGTENS.) This is a really dangerous dose. Our film badges were at best unreliable, and if we encountered any radiation over the minimum we were required to report it. When I reported my dose I was advised that I must have had the detector set on the wrong scale. I advised him that it was an employee of the AEC who scanned several of us. I doubt that it was set on the wrong scale. I later discovered that the particular detectors used on us DID NOT HAVE but ONE scale. We wre advised to immediately take showers.Sadly the ship was on WATER HOURS,and our need was in between the normal hours of water availability. We requested to be sent to one of the other ships anchored close by so that we could follow the orders. Ather the showers the radiation coming from our bodies was still at 20 Milli roengtens and required another shower befor it was brought down to 14 mil. which was deemed safe.
    Interestingly the Navy never offerred any follow up on my dose. I was forced to take the initive in this pursuit. I am still alive and on earth, and I do not “glow in a darkened room” I guess I am among the survivors. Sadly this was not the case for at least two of the crewmen from the Bairoko. Two years ago I discovered that TWO of the effected crewmen had both died of CANCER which was deemed as having been caused by the radioactive fallout that they encountered. They both died before their respective 50 th birthdays. Does this tell you folks anything?

  61. Stephen | November 26, 2010 at 4:44 pm |

    Open Letter To Congress

    ___________________________________________________

    Stephen – A great letter. We are beginning to roll.

  62. Michelle @ 4:08, the trust of the Armed Services cannot accrue to a POTUS who refuses to be forthright with those who serve in harm’s way. The other day, POTUS gave lip service to being proud of being their CINC while pardoning poultry. Shouting out before poultry and then including men and women who are suffering life-threatening conditions, life-threatening injuries and emotional privations brought on by fatigue, hardship and separation from normalcy cheapened their sacrifice.
    I have often thought that Dubya might have discovered Hambama’s ruse during the scandal about Hambama’s interference on the SOFA Agreement. I distinctly remember hearing in the news that Gordon Brown dropped into the WH one day and thought he might have brought Hambama’s British BC from the archives. If an Indonesia BC ever existed it probably was destroyed by the tidal wave in 2006(?)
    The truth may never be told. This man has the power to answer all of our questions, but he refuses to do so because maintaining control over the proving documents amuses him, deflects attention from hidden hand, stealth legislation/treaties/deals, or it implicates his criminality in defrauding the public? Which is it?

  63. Fernley Girl @ 4:52 pm |
    Fernley Girl-my mother’s parents were from Austria-Hungary, Germany and met on the boat to Ellis Island pre-WW1-I never met those grandparents they died before my mother married, but I know from my mother that their relatives over there (both big families) advised them in 23 and 48 of the terrible situation. I imagine the Germans are freaked-they know first hand how terrible it was and I’m sure this was passed down to the younger generations. I remember when I was a little kid hearing about wheelbarrows full of money to buy a loaf of bread.

  64. If anybody wants to know more about the Pacific Nuclear tests you need only type “BRAVO TEST into your search engine. There is lots to be read about it. Far more than I am willing to sit and type out. As I stated the US GOVERNMENT ADMITTED that MEDICAL EVIDENCE SHOWED that SMALL DOSES OF IONISING RADIATION IS CAPABLE OF CAUSING CANCER. More recently I have found medical information that IONISING RADIATION can also cause the DNA STRAND to be broken,and as a result the affected cells can NO LONGER PRODUCE exact copies of themselves, which ultimately leads to cancerous growths.

  65. Lillibet @ 5:57 pm |
    and we thought the Roman Emperors were a little bit nuts, ok some made it to totally whacked-Nero, Caligula-I believe every country in the World has Obama’s material-can you imagine their intelligence services being that remiss, as we would have everything on their people too. DC has it too-sometimes I wonder if they are not giving these people enough rope-cat and mouse game to catch every single one of them-something like come into my web said the spider to the fly.

  66. Stephen
    Great Letter to Congress!!
    share it with oreilly,beck,huckabee,hannity, fns, freedomwatch,donimus
    drudge,Rusty Humphries,Levin maybe u-tube !!!!

  67. By the way the US Government paid several claims to the survivors of the sailors who died early in their lives as a result of the radiation aboard the USS Bairoko. The wife of one of these sailors was paid $75,000.00. Later several other claims were paid an equal amount. The documents being held by the US government would PROVE that this did occur. It would be of great use in court. If anybody comes up with any of the cancers listed by the Veteran’s Administration you will have a case with LEGS in court.

  68. Truth Now,
    I sent it to those you mentioned and more. Feel free to send it viral. Thanks.

  69. Michelle…………………….Ref 4:52PM
    That is because the GERMAN MARK had little to NO value after WW1. By the way it was because they tried to MONETISE their debt just like out friends in the WH are DOING NOW. The same thing could and,might even occur here. Get your wheel barrow wheel greased up. You might even need a couple of wheel barrows filled with DOLLARS to even buy a chocolate bar.

  70. Please send viral…Thanks. Here it is again:

    Open Letter To Congress

    When you take office as a public servant you swear an oath before God and man. This oath you take is a sacred trust. It is your word and your honor spoken in public for all to bear witness. Your adherence to your oath is the measure of your integrity.

    Your solemn oath of office is to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States of America against all enemies foreign and domestic. God has surely taken note of your oath and will judge you according to the integrity of your soul.

    As a natural born citizen of this great nation that I love, I request that you honor your word by protecting and defending Article 2 Section 1 of the Constitution you swore before God that you would defend. The aforementioned article has come under attack from within. And as a result, the freedoms to which your oath applied are all at risk of disappearing, including the very Constitution you swore to protect.
    Millions of brave Americans gave their lives for the freedoms that our Constitutional rule of law has provided and has sustained us through the years as the greatest nation the world has ever seen. They also swore the same oath and their honor and integrity are intact without question. Let not their sacrifices be for naught.

    Our brave men and women of the Armed Forces today go into harms way without the assurance that the orders coming down the unified chain of command are legal and lawful because there are lingering questions as to the eligibility of the Commander In Chief to issue them. One brave soldier, Lt. Col. Terry Lakin, has tried to get an answer through normal military channels without success. He finally made the distasteful choice to invite his own court martial in order to get an answer to the question to finally put an end to the doubts and concerns of his fellow soldiers in arms. In this action he is doing exactly as he was trained to do.

    Lt. Col. Terry Lakin is an 18 year highly decorated Bronze Star recipient who served tours in Bosnia and Afghanistan. He has the support of three Generals, Army Major General (Ret) Jerry Curry, U.S. Army Major General (Ret) Paul E. Valalley and Air Force Lieutenant General (Ret) Thomas McInerney. General McInerney has submitted to the court an affidavit of support for discovery and a full hearing. In spite of the plea from Three Star Lt. General McInverney, Lakin is being denied due process by Judge Lind who has ruled that Lakin cannot defend himself in any way whatsoever because she will not “embarrass the President” to show his vital records, and prove his eligibility under Article 2 Section 1. As a result of that ruling Lt. Col. Terry Lakin faces years at hard labor because he might expose high treason against the people of the United States of America and the Constitution you swore to protect and defend.

    If ever there was a time for you to honor your oath with right action it is now. And there is an easy answer for your personal concerns about your oath and your integrity. If Obama is truly eligible to hold office and can prove it, your honor and integrity are intact, because you have done your duty to your word and your honor while performing a service to end the lingering doubts as to the lawfulness of orders coming down the unified chain of command. If on the other hand, Obama cannot produce proof of eligibility, then you have exposed and rescued the nation from acts of high treason, and your honor and your integrity will be intact. Either way you come out of it a hero and with your integrity intact. I ask you to be reminded of the courage and bravery of the millions who died to protect and defend our Constitution, and in that, find within yourself the courage to act with the same bravery and conviction of those who paved the way for the very freedoms you enjoy today.

    Remember, if due process can be denied Lt. Col Terry Lakin, it can be denied you also.

    Sincerely,

    A Natural Born Citizen of the United States of America

  71. out=our sorry……..

  72. I was out selling Goodfellow paper’s “No Child Without a Christmas” afterwards I asked, do you think the guy in the White house is there legally? Thank God they said no, he was born in Kenya….I was worried I can not stand to be around folks that do not know the Truth!! I told them we will know Monday at 10 what the Supreme Court decides. Stay Safe, God Bless!!!

  73. Stephen…………………………..
    Whoever composed the letter is dead on as to the feelings of ALL PATRIOTS. It would really impress me even if ONE of our alleged leaders in Congress acknowledges this letter. At the same time he/her will also tell you volumes if it is never even acknowledged. At least the letter could be answered by default. one way or another.

  74. Oldsalt,

    Thank you for your very kind words.
    Yes, it was my handiwork. I am hoping there is at least one member of Congress with a shred of decency left.

  75. I’ve always said Jackson and Sharpton are profitting off the very evil Dr. King fought, struggled and died to eliminate.

    By the way,

    They may CALL themselves “Reverends”,

    Dr. King WAS one.

  76. Bravo, Stephen!

    Your letter is going viral to my address book and beyond. Great job! 🙂

  77. http://WWW.BING.COM

    SEARCH TRILATERAL COMMISSION,IS THIS WHO GROOMED BHO??
    LOTS OF LINKS,LOTS OF BIG NAMES.This is deep stuff.I suppose this is on U-TUBE SOMEWHERE.
    THE WEBS ARE MANY,ALL ABOUT THE NWO.

  78. http://WWW.AMERICANGRANDJURY.ORG
    Former SR.ADVISOR TO OBAMA ARRESTED FOR SOLICITING SEX FROM A MINOR !!! This guy looks like a real sleeze bag !! and to think a senior advisor?????????? CRAZY SOME REAL WINNERS IN OUR GOVERNMENT

  79. He Blinded Them with Science
    He Blinded Them with Science »

    THE CORRECT SCIENTIFIC ANALYSIS OF VATTEL’S RELEVANCE TO “NATURAL BORN CITIZEN” by Jedi Pauly (Nov. 26, 2010) — As many of the readers of the Post and Email News are aware, I have written and…
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  80. Old Salt @ 6:14 p.m., thank you for making the world free from tyrants in the last world war. Serving in extreme danger and in the face of overwhelming odds, you, and others like you, secured the peace of the last fifty plus years. Throughout grade school, every school child was taught to understand that they were free because men had fought and bled to keep America and Europe and remote areas of the Pacific islands and elsewhere free from megalomanical tyrants.
    A former neighbor of mine in NC served as on an artillery crew for a ship in Pacific during WWII. He had the misfortune to sustain a brain injury from shrapnel which required removal of a substantial portion of his left hemisphere, iirc. After the war, he worked for the State of Connecticutt as an electrical engineer, mostly performing maintenance of lighting systems in state administrative facilities. He must have been exceptionally brilliant because he was still able to function quite well with only half of his brain, and he was a remarkable person, quite well-spoken and pleasant to be around. He spoke often of his two sons, who went to college on military scholarships and entered the military as a career. One son left the Pentagon after the attack there on 9-11 and became an investigative journalist. This son’s name was Wayne M.
    Your sacrifice means more to all of us here than you’ll ever know. How many millions of lives were guaranteed freedom, guaranteed life because you faced death down? Your children and your grandchildren will never know the dangers and hardships your prevailed against, if they are lucky. Nor will they ever meet your equal in constitution, indominitable will and unflinching bravery.
    During WWII, my mother’s uncles all served in either the Army or the Navy. My grandfather, the eldest was in charge of coordinating rail shipments for military supplies, arms and troops at the local railyard during the war. My grandfather enlisted, but they wouldn’t allow him to go because of his job and because his four brothers were already being drafted. The second eldest of the brothers was one of three survivors blown out of a ship on 9/11 during the war. Sharks fed on the bodies of the fatalities for days. My great uncle would never speak about the details of that and would, instead, gloss over the carnage with a shudder and state that he was saved by God and that he kept praying all through the ordeal to distract himself from the sharks and the reality that he might soon drown. A few weeks ago, I happened upon the newspaper clipping of that event. The newspaper caption states that the three survivors were rescued several days after floating in the ocean covered in blood and oil.
    Never forget that your courage and service made the world free for subsequent generations to live in peace. There are no words adequate to express our debt to you.

  81. Lillibet 8:14 PM

    Beautifully written tribute to Old Salt and all vets! We all owe them so much for their many sacrifices and devotion to our country.

  82. Old Salt and others – If you want to read more about the seriousness of the radiation emitted from the scanners, go here:

    http://www.newsmaxhealth.com/health_stories/blaylock_TSA_scan_safety/2010/11/24/363489.htmls=al&promo_code=B2FF-1
    **************************************
    It seems that the radiation from the scanners is particularly dangerous in that it affects the entire skin area. There are implications from this which should be noted; e.g., if gold jewelry was near a mole, the radiation effect could be 100 times more dangerous. Also organs such as the eyes, testes, and small blood vessels could be harmed significantly. It is an interesting read.

    We were told some years ago by supposedly knowledgeable authorities that C-Scans emitted no more radiation than a chest x-ray. Now we know the truth – C-Scans emit as much as 1,000 chest x-rays. Some people I know have had several of them all within one year or less. Also, children and the elderly, as well as those with compromised immune systems would be more at risk with the scanners.

  83. Michelle,
    It’s interesting to read the European newspapers, and watch some of the YouTube videos coming from Ireland & England. Everyone seems very angry/scared. And, many of them sound a lot like us! There’s a plan to try to have everyone in Europe withdraw their money from the banks on Dec. 7th in an attempt to crash the banks. The banks are being saved and the citizens are being screwed with higher taxes. Just like here, the pols would rather prop up the crooked bankers than force them into BK.

  84. Carol – the answer is YES, YES, YES!!!

    I applauad your looking outside the matrix. Keep doing it. You’ll be amazed at the crappola this useless corporation aka government has been selling all of us for more than a century now.

    To learn more google Wayne Madsen+Korea+RT News

    If that doesn’t work go to http://www.infowars.com or http://www.tarpley.net or com

    It’s all there. You’re instincts are spot on.

  85. Fernley Girl | November 26, 2010 at 9:41 pm |

    There’s a plan to try to have everyone in Europe withdraw their money from the banks on Dec. 7th in an attempt to crash the banks.
    ——————————————————————————————-

    Hey Fernley, I have a better idea. How about I put my hand on this table and you grab a sledgehammer and swing it is hard as you can and hit it?

  86. Stephen @ 6:51 pm |
    I agree with everyone else-just a perfect letter.
    “Remember, if due process can be denied Lt. Col Terry Lakin, it can be denied you also.”
    This part they just don’t seem to get. Haven’t seen you here before and thank you for your fine work and for sharing.

  87. I really don’t want to know is supposed to be an Elvis hit, not an attitude by government employees.

    “I Really Don’t Want To Know ” Elvis Presley

  88. I’m so terribly disgusted. I was trying to post something at FoxNews, and used the word “chopping,” but they won’t let it go through. Then I also used the word “Muslim,” and they won’t let it go. So I had to improvise and use the word “shopping” the explain that you change the “s-h” to a “c-h” instead. Then the M word, I find this so frustrating and so stupid that we have to talk in some kind of a silly code. They won’t allow certain words. Like chopping heads. Give me a break, so I have to misspell it and lead them to the correct understanding. Pretty soon we’re not going to be able to talk to anyone.

    Don’t y’all find this crazy too?

  89. Cabby – AZ @ 8:49 pm |
    Lillibet 8:14 PM
    This is a debt of honor that our entire country owes, every citizen in our country. WE THE PEOPLE honor our forebears, their sacrifices by honoring them and the Constitutional Republic that they swore to defend and did.

  90. Paxson | November 26, 2010 at 10:16 pm |

    Fernley Girl | November 26, 2010 at 9:41 pm |

    There’s a plan to try to have everyone in Europe withdraw their money from the banks on Dec. 7th in an attempt to crash the banks.
    ——————————————————————————————-

    Hey Fernley, I have a better idea. How about I put my hand on this table and you grab a sledgehammer and swing it is hard as you can and hit it?
    ***************
    NOT my idea, just passing on the info. Suggest you send your thoughts to Eric Cantora, the French soccer player. Click the “EN” button at the top of the site for English, unless you’re fluent in French. And, why the ad hominem attack?

  91. so pizzed at the attack by Paxson I forgot to post the link.

    http://bankrun2010.com/

  92. Fernley Girl @ 9:41 pm
    Remember the Iceland early warning bird in the coal mine thing from earlier this year. This European Union thing was this a great big experiment that did not work? I was talking to a friend this week naturalized citizen but German. I said I’m from Chicago and I know from all of our ethnic communities that you are not going to turn a German into an Italian, or a Spanish person, intermarriages yes but there is something so intrinsic to a person you can’t measure it but it is there-philosophies, dispositions, cooking, culture, arts on and on.

  93. Fernley, I wasn’t attacking. I was being sarcastic. I understand that a lot of people are not happy, myself included, with the political/economic system today. But a rapid collapse through a run on the banks or other means, as so many advocate here and elsewhere, would be exactly like slamming your fingers in a car door on purpose. Everybody’s life savings would disappear instantly. Sure, you can say that is what they are doing by monetizing the debt, but that is more of a controlled erosion and outside of our immediate control.

    In addition, what would fill the vacuum? Barter?

  94. Fernley Girl | November 26, 2010 at 10:53 pm |
    so pizzed at the attack by Paxson I forgot to post the link.

    http://bankrun2010.com/
    ——————————————————————————————–
    Hey everybody, this sucks….let’s go run off this cliff.

  95. Paxson @ 11:01 pm |
    I think so many people on both sides of the Atlantic, it would not take much to spook people-they are that sensitive to conditions. Plus factor in betrayals by governments, our SEC not on the job-people not trusting institutions so I think it is a good time to take a chill pill as much as possible, add to that someone might be chumming the waters for their own benefit. Trust is going to become a commodity more valuable than gold. Those who do have it will benefit. I think this is what Chris Christie is trying to tell the NJ folks, short term pain, bare bones budget could pay off in a few years.

  96. Michelle | November 26, 2010 at 11:08 pm |
    Paxson @ 11:01 pm |
    I think so many people on both sides of the Atlantic, it would not take much to spook people-they are that sensitive to conditions. Plus factor in betrayals by governments, our SEC not on the job-people not trusting institutions so I think it is a good time to take a chill pill as much as possible, add to that someone might be chumming the waters for their own benefit. Trust is going to become a commodity more valuable than gold. Those who do have it will benefit. I think this is what Chris Christie is trying to tell the NJ folks, short term pain, bare bones budget could pay off in a few years.
    ____________________________________________________
    Michelle, I just laughed out loud. This is how stupid that the French are. They will all do a run on the banks, collapse the system, their money will be useless and then they will go back out in the streets when the government can’t pay their pensions …..with the same end results, except they’ll be broke.

  97. I think the basis for much of the trouble is people do not trust their governments, here for obvious reasons-lied to once too often.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/27/business/global/27euro.html?src=mv
    Europeans Striving to Calm Nerves in Markets
    Instead, the Popular Party warned the government not to publish any misleading data, and its secretary general, Dolores de Cospedal, insisted that “the problem of Spain is lack of trust in the government.”

  98. So, every person in Ireland should take on massive debt to keep the banks from going into BK? From what I’ve been reading, the banking fraud over there has been massive. The ECB/IMF is talking about 6.7% interest on the loans to Ireland. 8B in interest, 5B in austerity savings, 3B in the hole at the end of it all, and Ireland will be worse off later than they are now. The FDIC is closing banks EVERY WEEK. All that’s doing is leaving the TBTF’s with less competition and more of our tax dollars in the pie to bail them out again. Some people in Europe are planning to withdrawn their money early, because they’re afraid to wait until the 7th. At least they have the stones to tell the bankers, in a non-violent way, what they think about a bailout.

  99. Fernley Girl @ 11:19 pm |
    re: banks I had an odd experience a couple of years ago when everything was rocking and rolling. I went into my bank, and something brand new was being constructed a few feet away, so I asked the teller (an older gentlemen) what is it going to be-he said “another house of prostitution”. I thought wow that’s pretty bold even by Palm Beach standards right on Federal Highway where god and everybody could see it. I said you’re kidding, he said No, its going to be another bank, within feet of each other 6 banks, somewhat like Starbucks-I think some of the shrinking, absorbing were seeing now is due to overbuilding of banks too.

  100. Fernley Girl | November 26, 2010 at 11:19 pm |
    So, every person in Ireland should take on massive debt to keep the banks from going into BK? From what I’ve been reading, the banking fraud over there has been massive. The ECB/IMF is talking about 6.7% interest on the loans to Ireland. 8B in interest, 5B in austerity savings, 3B in the hole at the end of it all, and Ireland will be worse off later than they are now. The FDIC is closing banks EVERY WEEK. All that’s doing is leaving the TBTF’s with less competition and more of our tax dollars in the pie to bail them out again. Some people in Europe are planning to withdrawn their money early, because they’re afraid to wait until the 7th. At least they have the stones to tell the bankers, in a non-violent way, what they think about a bailout.
    ____________________________________________________

    Here’s the deal Fernley, I’m not the biggest fan of the Central Banks or banks in general. However, is it the banks faults that the PEOPLE WHO ARE RUNNING ON THE BANKS ARE THE SAME PEOPLE WHO VOTED IN SOCIALIST POLITICIANS WHOSE MOUTHS WROTE CHECKS THAT THEIR BANK ACCOUNTS COULDN’T COULDN’T FUND? The Banks didn’t force the politicians to make those promises that are unsustainable.

    Essentially, they f.cked themselves through their votes and now they are going to f.ck themselves again by running on the banks. They aren’t going to hurt anybody but themselves and I will make the analogy again, why don’t we all go stick our tongues on the car door handle in below zero weather. We’ll get the same results.

    It’s the people’s faults, not the bank’s faults. Banks can’t vote (well, in an ideal world).

  101. Fernley. The banks were already bailed out by the Irish government. The banks debts are mainly guaranteed by the Irish government. Who owes the banks and now the government? The people, the same ones who are about to run on the banks.

    “In Greece, the massive burden of domestic debt threatened to bring down the economy not just because it threatened to squeeze the Greek taxpayer dry (were the government ever to manage to enforce its tax laws), but also because domestic banks were holding a massive supply of that same debt. A sovereign default would have wiped out Greek banks’ assets, crushing the country’s financial sector.

    In Ireland, the problem worked the other way around. When Ireland’s banks were threatened by depositor runs during the early days of the credit crunch, the government stepped in to guarantee the sector’s liabilities. A huge burden of private-sector Irish debt suddenly became public.”

    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/The-Meaning-Ireland-Collapse-atlantic-3700101347.html?x=0

  102. Not to mention the fact, especially in our country with the CRA (Community Re-Investment Act), Politicians (who were elected by the people) forced the banks to lend according to certain criteria or be punished.

    So ultimately, it is the people’s fault (ours) for voting in sh.tty candidates. Running on the banks isn’t going to solve anything at this point.

  103. Paxson @ 11:35 pm |
    “But in the long run, the peripheral states might have no choice but to break up the EU.”
    I wonder how far away this might be?

  104. Paxson @ 11:37 pm |
    I saw some videos re: CRA they reminded me of mobsters demanding protection money. Politicians demanding something of bankers a private business and if they didn’t do as they were told-then big trouble. That group should be outed. Then when this house of cards tumbles the politicians play innocent so much more needs to be investigated and prosecuted.

  105. Why should German’s pay for the bad choices that the Irish made? As in the United States, each EU country makes promises to their citizens. Some are a bit, shall we say, “pie in the sky”? So the Greeks want to retire at age 50, and get a pension for 30 or 40 years…. Why should the, I’m trying to think of a hard working European country and can’t so insert one here, pay for their easy ways?

    But it’s all the banks faults… 🙂 Just kidding. Let’s go run off this cliff.

  106. Paxson @ 11:48 pm |
    I think many of the European countries had 6 week vacation plans too, and bunchs of other perks an American would never dream of asking for.

  107. Why are no Republican conservative talk show hosts mentioning the eligibility issu

    >>>>michael savage repeatedly mentions that BO is a great pretender, he even plays the song

  108. Michelle | November 26, 2010 at 11:54 pm |
    Paxson @ 11:48 pm |
    I think many of the European countries had 6 week vacation plans too, and bunchs of other perks an American would never dream of asking for.
    __________________________________________________

    I do digress. I hope that Fernley doesn’t take me the wrong way. You know I go on my rants from time to time and then I am good. We just need to keep our heads and change our own government. Life will probably get harder before it gets easier. I have to hit the sack, my wife is yelling at me. Good night, all.

  109. Paxson @ 12:03 am |
    Too bad governments aren’t businesses WE THE PEOPLE by extension Europeans the customers could say you’re a lousy business and we want our money back- their salaries, bonuses since they were not doing their jobs-or doing a job on the people.
    “You know I go on my rants from time to time and then I am good. We just need to keep our heads and change our own government.”

  110. The ironic thing is that ACORN (led by Barack Obama) harassing the banks through the community re-investment act and the bad actors at Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac (Raum Emmanuel), Barney Franks, Maxine Waters, Chris Dodd’s et eal. are all of the same people who are working to get us out of this mess. Yet they keep digging a deeper hole.

    At some point, you just have to stop banging your head against the wall and realize that these people don’t know their arse from a hole in the ground. Or they do and are just trying to collapse the system. Pick your poison. It’s one or the other.

  111. Paxson @ 12:12 am |
    “At some point, you just have to stop banging your head against the wall and realize that these people don’t know their arse from a hole in the ground. Or they do and are just trying to collapse the system. Pick your poison. It’s one or the other.” I think it is both-plus arrogance and delusional insanity, they don’t live by what they create so therefore how could they comprehend.

  112. MIL called…….THAT always sucks up lots of time. 🙂

    And when one of the loan officers at BAC confessed to knowing that 80% of their sub-primes were bad, but they went ahead and bundled them up into MBS’s, you actually think we voted for that?
    I suppose it’s the voters’ fault, too, that both criminal and civil complaints against JPM have been brought by CFTC and Justice Department for manipulating the silver markets?
    How long do you think this Ponzi scheme can go on? Why should we, or the citizen of any other country, pay for the mismanagement of a private company? Why should private-sector debt become public-sector debt? That’s sorta like someone telling you, “I’m going to make you pay off my mortgage, my CC’s, and my car payment.” And holding a gun to your head while they say it.

  113. Fernley Girl | November 27, 2010 at 12:32 am |
    Why should we, or the citizen of any other country, pay for the mismanagement of a private company?
    ——————————————————————————————–
    We shouldn’t/ But didn’t you read that article that the Irish government had already taken most of the obligations off of the books of the banks? So it’s too little too late. What good will a bank run on do in Ireland now? The Irish government owns the debt now. There aren’t enough revenues coming in to keep the government afloat. Ireland, the country, needs a bailout in the same fashion that California and other states may need one. But where is the money going to come from?

  114. Can’t you see that they want the system to collapse? Cloward-Piven.

  115. But where is the money going to come from?
    ************
    You, me, our children, our grandchildren, even our great-grandchildren. Or, we default. Or Soros does his “crash the British Pound Sterling” thingy. If we actually pay off the debt we will be a Third World nation financially by the time we’re done with all of it. How about a 23% VAT tax to help that debt along? That’s what the brainy dudes at the EU are proposing to raise the VAT tax to over there.

  116. And, as far as Cloward-Piven goes, I think there are two disparate groups there. The Socialists are all for it. The banks, not so much. Central planning pretty much cuts them out of the “rape and pillage” loop. THAT would be the forte of the government.

  117. Fernley, I agree with both of your last two posts. What to do? Methodical change.

  118. Lillibet………………………………..
    First and foremost I have the need to correct you on the time of my service. I was serving in the US Navy during the KOREAN war, but not in WW2. My first military sort of activity was the result of joining our Indiana National Guard at 17 years of age. I spent a total of 2 years in the Guard then requested active duty in the Navy. The service in the guard made an excellent platform from which to move into active service. I already knew about how the military services operate,and had insight into military chain of command,etc.
    With respect to my service as a whole, I did nothing more than discharge my obligation that I have as a citizen of my country. I did this, and so did thousands before me,and after me. Some did NOT COME HOME. In my heart,I never forget them. We were,and are a band of brothers,irregardless of which branch we served in. It is because of those who did NOT return that I DID return. I hold my deepest,and most heartfelt admiration for them. I have become an advocate of our military services,and I really become inscensed when they are CHEATED, and or disrespected by people in all walks of our country including the ALLEGED leaders. My disdain goes against them first because the US Government,and the CINC have the PRIMARY,and fundamental power over the military to begin with. If the CINC is a PHONEY, then I do not respect him as a leader. Until he shows me a VALID CERTIFICATE OF LIVE BIRTH,( NOT A PHONEY CERTIFICATION OF LIVE BIRTH) bearing his correct name,and issued in 1961 from the Hawaii DOH, I will not regard him as either our President,or our CINC. I do not believe that I am alone in this,and I believe that there IS NO ORIGINAL CERTIFICATE OF LIVE BIRTH on file in Hawaii,and further I believe that he was fraudulently elected. He ran for the office as Barack H Obama, but in truth he is LEGALLY Barry Soetoro. To the best of my knowledge his birth name was never legally re instated. This simple fact alone tells me that he is INCREDIBLY STUPID. It also smacks of the possibility that he is not even a citizen of the US, otherwise his birth name would have been restored. I live for the day when I see all of this brought out into the light of day, and documented.

  119. Jesse Ventura had a very good show tonight regarding the CRIMINAL behavior of Wall St. insiders, which led to the great ROBBERY of our FEDERAL RESERVE, which all of us, our children,and grandchildren must now pay back. The perpetrators should be prosecuted vigorously, convicted,and given the same sentence that Maddow recieved.

  120. Fernley, I agree with both of your last two posts. What to do? Methodical change.
    ********
    We are, after all, just observers. And victims. In the end what we think is irrelevant. The Nov. elections changed nothing…..the leadership at the top is still the same ol’ people…..they just swapped a couple of offices. We have NO power. We are just pockets to be picked. The only way we can safely keep our dollars to ourselves is to choose poverty. If we choose to be in the bottom half the taxman will ignore us……..at least for now.

  121. Fernley, yep.

  122. According to Ventura’s investigation all of the problems were emanating from Goldman Sachs. They were playing the DERIVATIVE CONTRACT MARKET,and continually LOST. As Fernley stated these things were bundled, and huge loans were taken against them. In short they were a market that could,and was being sold short. It was common knowledge that the Contracts would lose value, making them a primary entity for selling short.

  123. Fernley & Paxson………………………….
    I personally think that the best approach towards our common problem is to NOT OWN ANYTHING, keep your cash hidden,do not work for ANYONE, and only a SMALL portion of your money in a bank. Do verbal barter tas much as possible to buy anything. Above all do not leave a paper trail in your financial transactions.

  124. “Colonel Gregory Hollister’s Obama eligibility case goes to the Supreme Court: SCOTUS challenged to put Constitution above Twitter”

    “This makes three eligibility cases against Obama now pending before the Supreme Court …”

    http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/11/col-gregory-hollisters-obama.html

  125. Gordo………………………….
    I hope that Phil Berg’s case is included. After all he was the first person down this road, and probably deserves SOME of the credit for developing the notion of sueing Obama to prove his eligibility.

  126. I personally think that the best approach towards our common problem is to NOT OWN ANYTHING
    **************
    And you can be sure the government and the banks would be more than happy to help us all meet that goal! Obama’s DOJ will make certain only the underlings get prosecuted for all the banking/mortgage fraud, and will leave their GS pals financially whole.

  127. GTG watch the news……..want to see how UNR did against Boise State.

  128. Fernley…………………..
    Own nothing………nothing for the Feds to tax the hell out of. If something isn’t agreed to soon,there will be ONE HELL of a TAX increase after January 1 2011

  129. “oldsalt79…….I do not believe that I am alone in this,and I believe that there IS NO ORIGINAL CERTIFICATE OF LIVE BIRTH on file in Hawaii,and further I believe that he was fraudulently elected. He ran for the office as Barack H Obama, but in truth he is LEGALLY Barry Soetoro. To the best of my knowledge his birth name was never legally re instated. This simple fact alone tells me that he is INCREDIBLY STUPID. It also smacks of the possibility that he is not even a citizen of the US, otherwise his birth name would have been restored. I live for the day when I see all of this brought out into the light of day, and documented.”

    Oldsalt,
    I agree. The country owes it to the dead, some of which will never come home to US soil, to find the facts and release them. I have no sympathy for any of Obama’s personal details, he took a life of public office and therefore one of exposure….ask the Judge in Alaska stated…..as Obama himself pulled up hidden records on his opponents in the past. He is ineligible, everything he has done is illegal and every bill he has signed is garbage. Americans can live with that and we can continue and thrive. Perhaps the Democrats can’t, but the country can. Party over Country and Constitution is, and has been, destructive for We the People.
    Pete

  130. I personally remain hopeful that the overly large financial institutions like GS will finally have LIMITS placed upon them that allow only a certain amount of wealth that they can legally have under management at any point in time,and should be vigorously enforced.

  131. I havn’t heard anything about Abby Cohen in the last few years. I am wondering if she had any involvement in the failed derivatives contracts. She had a lot of market ability. She too was a member of the “GOLDEN SLACKS” organisation.

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