US Justice Department corruption, Obama eligibility, Blagojevich trial, Citizen Wells open thread, July 18, 2010

US Justice Department corruption, Obama eligibility, Blagojevich trial

This was sent to me in an email. It ties in to the articles on US Justice Department corruption .

” The mountain of evidence that is emerging that Barack Hussein Obama is not who and what he portrayed himself to be to the American electorate, the deception goes beyond using forged douments and a farbricated past to swindle the American public into believing that he was Constitutionally  eligible as per the United States Constitution. That same evidence is exposing the corruption in the United States Congress and the Judicial Branch and those that were complicit in the crime of treason against the United States Constitution, which they swore to uphold and protect and the citizens of this nation.
After repeated attempts to have their concerns redressed and investigated and properly handled, they have willingly and with malice and forethought forfeited their obligation, no different the the United States government deciding what laws to enforce when it comes to immigration or cases involving voter intimidation.  Willingly neglecting their oath and obligation is mocking civil government, it’s rules and laws, and the United States Constitution. May God have mercy on their souls, as he will be their final judge.”

http://nobarack08.wordpress.com/2010/07/16/the-preponderance-of-the-evidence-or-the-seriousness-of-the-charge/

189 responses to “US Justice Department corruption, Obama eligibility, Blagojevich trial, Citizen Wells open thread, July 18, 2010

  1. Philo-Publius

    Good morning.

    The lies, corruption and deception continue on a daily basis. Even Obama sponsored media like the NYT has taken notice.

    When Congress required most Americans to obtain health insurance or pay a penalty, Democrats denied that they were creating a new tax. But in court, the Obama administration and its allies now defend the requirement as an exercise of the government’s “power to lay and collect taxes.”

    Administration officials say the tax argument is a linchpin of their legal case in defense of the health care overhaul and its individual mandate, now being challenged in court by more than 20 states and several private organizations.

    In a brief defending the law, the Justice Department says the requirement for people to carry insurance or pay the penalty is “a valid exercise” of Congress’s power to impose taxes.

    Congress can use its taxing power “even for purposes that would exceed its powers under other provisions” of the Constitution, the department said.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/18/health/policy/18health.html?_r=1&ref=politics

  2. Ronald Reagan speaks out on Socialized Medicine – Audio

    This is a MUST hear speech on the demise of our republic by President Reagan. If you do not have time to listen to the whole recording please start at 7.42 mins

  3. Obamacare Should Be Repealed, but That Should Be Just the First Step

  4. Declassified docs show Kissinger siding with Arabs

    Told Algerian minister another war with Israel might be politically advantageous

    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=180265

  5. Philo-Publius

    With all the talk lately about “white vote,” I thought it would be helpful to know what a white person is. As the census definition makes clear, who knows? It’s a biological fiction, a figment of the pigment beneath which all human beings are the same.

    And yet, with midterm elections just a few months away, the so-called white vote looms large, an angry and vindictive political force. A Washington Post/ABC News poll released Tuesday showed that President Obama’s approval ratings have reached “a new low among whites, at 40 percent, with his positive marks dipping under 50 percent for the first time among white college-educated women.”

    Does race have anything to do with it? You betcha.
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/07/13/AR2010071305864.html?sub=AR

    Useful idiots like Courtland Milloy will never understand our opposition to Obama has nothing to do with race.

  6. Military Tribute “Toby Keith-American soldier”

  7. Free Speech

    zachjonesishome // July 18, 2010 at 6:01 am

    Interesting

    http://lamecherry.blogspot.com/2010/07/up-your-obama-pole.html

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    dems & libs turning of the islamo-fascist bo is key to his defeat.

  8. Free Speech

  9. Free Speech

  10. The usurper is a big liar. He promised all these tax cuts for 95% of people in the country. Now they are mandating more taxes for bogus death scare bill that the illegal alien signed into bogus law. This has to stop. I am sick of that usurper getting away with all the crimes he is committing.

  11. Free Speech

    previously

    Free Speech // July 17, 2010 at 6:07 pm

    Citizen Carlyle (FUBO) // July 17, 2010 at 5:44 pm

    Free Speech // July 17, 2010 at 3:46 pm

    bo lies again:

    bo/BP new Oil Gusher Cap has not stopped the oil spill.

    According to this Scientist, “Relief wells never work on the first try.”

    http://www.resistnet.com/video/video/show?id=2600775%3AVideo%3A2380658&xgs=1&xg_source=msg_share_video

    ========================

    The guy in charge of the relief well is a guru from what was Red Adair’s company that pioneered fixing oil wells. He has a track record of 4o for 40 with relief wells.

    SORRY I DON’T BELIEVE THIS GUY HAS A PERFECT RECORD AT 5000 FEET. bo/BPs RECORD AT PLUGGING THIS GUSHER IS ANYTHING BUT PERFECT. AS STATED IN THIS VIDEO bo/BP FALSE CLAIMS TO HAVE STOPPED THE LEAK THIS WEEK IS JUST ANOTHER bo/BP “PR STUNT” TO TRY AND LIE THEIR WAY OUT OF THIS MESS:

    Free Speech // July 17, 2010 at 4:02 pm

    Use of dispersants is bo/bp “PR stunt…” to hide the extent of the catastrophe.

    http://www.youtube.com/user/MOXNEWSd0tCOM#p/search/0/5ew7U5imIRM

    **************************************

    One of the submersible “search patrols” has discovered what appears to be seepage through the seabed sand and mud, not too far from the well head. It is being investigated and I will report how it turns out as soon as something is known for sure.
    ******************************************
    I do believe that bo/bp are attempting to hide leaks away from well head, i.e., bo/bp sabotaged explosion of the well head caused unintended consequences of their crime.

  12. 1. bo has already successfully stolen millions of identities over the past 3 years. boCohorts stole computer info as I have documented. bo used the census (ACORN) workers to steal millions more. I have provided evidence of this identity theft in Nashville to investigators.

    https://citizenwells.wordpress.com/category/nashville/

    There is no question that bo has used our own government to finance and execute MASSIVE IDENTITY THEFT

    2. It has been reported that the computer software in many counties (even Republican) is rigged. Simply put, boCohorts can program the software to register a vote for anyone they want.

    3. We all know of the New Black Panther Party & Union voter intimidation with the support of the dept of injustice.

    If Patriots have false hope in the Nov 2010 elections, we will lose our Country to bo’s Totalitarian regime.

    For information on forming a Secret Grand Jury to investigate crimes go here:

    http://grandjury.blogtownhall.com

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/06/how-to-start-and-lead-citizens-grand.html

    http://dewdropwarriors.blogspot.com/2009_03_01_archive.html

  13. CW,
    The Obama birth thing is really about common sense and obvious hypocrisy by the Obots. Let me give you a few examples:
    Obama, and his websites, claim he was born with dual citizenship. British, then Kenyan, then his Kenyan citizenship ‘expired’ and all he has is Natural Born US citizenship. This is an oxymoron, if you are Natural Born you have no claim on other citizenship, and no other jurisdiction has claim on you at birth. Further, you can’t be born a “Natural Born British Subject” and have your citizenship expire like an old milk bottle at a 7/11. When you’re a Natural Born Citizen, you have to take ACTIVE steps to dismiss your citizenship, not PASSIVE “I let it expire like a bottle of milk”. The Obots use ‘extreme’ past rulings to attempt to support that Obama has US Citizenship like Kim Wong Ark (not mentioning Natural Born), then turn around and say that his true British Natural Born Citizenship just EXPIRED!! The logic here is unbelievable.
    Then Obama campaigns on ‘Transparency’ and hides all of his past records. Further, legally publically available records—h is grade school enrollment records in Hawaii—that absolutely would eliminate any question of birth place—since his mom had to supply long form birth record—are the ONLY records missing from his kindergarten class! Imagine that!!!
    Wait….it gets even better. We have someone, who has sworn an affidavit that the Birth record, complete with footprint from Kenya, is accurate. The Obots and administration claim it is a fake, and that this person perjured himself in federal district court. However, the ‘Justice’ department (and I use that term loosely) and Holder, as well as the Secret Service, make NO ATTEMPT to prosecute this person. The footprint either matches or it doesn’t, it is either real or it is a fake. Can’t get simpler. Then again, if you can’t prosecute the person if the footprint matches now can you!!!
    The corruption even goes further. The representatives for Hawaii have come out publically and said Obama is a ‘NATURAL BORN CITIZEN’. This is utterly ludicrous for many reasons. First, only the Supreme Court has the authority to interpret the Constitution—not the Hawaii department of health. Further, in Minor vs. Happersett and I quote “At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners. Some authorities go further and include as citizens children born within the jurisdiction without reference to the citizenship of their parents. As to this class there have been doubts, but never as to the first”. The Supreme Court basically is saying that when you are born of Citizen Parents (that’s two parents) in country, you are a Natural Born Citizen, and this fact is not in dispute, but everything else is. Obama was born a British Subject, has made this claim himself. Here is the perfect irony, Obama, supposedly a Constitutional Lawyer, doesn’t know that without both parents being US Citizens and being born on US soil, that any claim on Natural Born US Citizenship isn’t in dispute……ROFLOL.

    Obama’s birth inquiry has never been about race or politics for me. This has been about if “We the people” still have a Constitution. The Obots and democrats know this, they don’t like the Constitution because it gets in the way of their democratic-socialist takeover, as it was truly INTENDED TO DO by those whom risked it all to give us freedom. The hypocrisy is known, understood, and ignored since it serves a purpose of pushing socialist values—they are blinded by party/politics and have forgotten Country and Constitution. The one thing that I’m absolutely convinced of, is that “We the People” no longer have STANDING to question our Legislative and Executive branches of government, and the Supreme Court doesn’t want to get involved. You decide what that means.

  14. These latest polls clearly show that repubs will not win the Senate in Nov 2010. Without control of the Senate repubs can not remove bo by impeachment. There will be no political solution to bo crisis.

    http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2010/jul/16/polls-harry-reid-grabs-lead-over-sharron-angle/

    http://www.politicsdaily.com/2010/07/06/rand-paul-in-tie-with-democrat-jack-conway-in-kentucky-senate-ra/

    If Patriots want bo legally removed it will have to be done by the Grand Jury process.

    For information on forming a Secret Grand Jury to investigate crimes go here:

    http://grandjury.blogtownhall.com

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/06/how-to-start-and-lead-citizens-grand.html

    http://dewdropwarriors.blogspot.com/2009_03_01_archive.html

    For information on Crimes committed by the BHO campaign:

    https://citizenwells.wordpress.com/category/nashville

  15. These latest polls clearly show that repubs will not win the Senate in Nov 2010. Without control of the Senate repubs can not remove bo by impeachment. There will be no political solution to bo crisis.

    If Patriots want bo legally removed it will have to be done by the Grand Jury process.

    For information on forming a Secret Grand Jury to investigate crimes go here:

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/06/how-to-start-and-lead-citizens-grand.html

    http://dewdropwarriors.blogspot.com/2009_03_01_archive.html

  16. Screw the thought of impeachment… Prosecute ALL involved in the CRIME against the Legal United States Citizens. Death to all TRAITORS. What say you???

  17. OBAMA ‘S KENYON CRIMES :
    AN IMPEACHABLE OFFENSE ?
    (video)

  18. This is what environmentalists say about the bo/bp oil & chemical polution of the Planet.

    http://www.youtube.com/user/GreenopolisTV?feature=pyv&ad=4134216626&kw=gulf%20of%20mexico#p/u/0/KoWJ4Dpz44A

  19. Cabby – AZ // July 18, 2010 at 11:38 am

    OBAMA ‘S KENYON CRIMES :
    AN IMPEACHABLE OFFENSE ?
    ************************************

    It is an indictable offense, he commited these crimes while he was still just a senator.

  20. Official Kenyan Government Records & numerous African Country News Accounts from 2004 to 2010 reporting Obama was Born in Kenya and was NOT born in the USA and is NOT a Native Born American.

    http://www.scribd.com/document_collections/2441535

    http://puzo1.blogspot.com/2010/05/catalog-of-evidence-concerned-americans.html

  21. If anyone hasn’t read jbjd’s most recent essay, you must. It is excellent; in fact, digesting it has absorbed much of my sub-conscious mind since I read it (and “conscious” also).

    jbjd said on the prior thread:

    “Doing nothing is not an option, when it comes to acting in the best interest of our country. Especially when you are an elected official, and you have sworn an oath to act.”

    http://jbjd.wordpress.com/2010/07/17/lying-then-or-lying-now/

  22. Free Speech // July 18, 2010 at 11:44 am

    Cabby – AZ // July 18, 2010 at 11:38 am

    OBAMA ‘S KENYON CRIMES :
    AN IMPEACHABLE OFFENSE ?
    ************************************

    It is an indictable offense, he commited these crimes while he was still just a senator.
    ********************************
    Did you watch the video? The recent event of trying to influence the vote for abortion in the Kenyan constitution IS an impeachable offense, because it was committed while he is president.

    You are referring to the Olinga matter which was committed while he was a senator.

  23. From: http://www.CitizenWells.wordpress.com

    “Obama, Saul Alinsky, Lucifer, Community Organizer, Ridicule, Socialists, McCain, Raila Odinga, ODM, Rules for Radicals, Alinsky Method, Ridicule older people”

    September 23, 2008 · 7 Comments

    “Lest we forget at least an over-the-shoulder acknowledgment to the very first radical: from all our legends, mythology, and history (and who is to know where mythology leaves off and history begins — or which is which), the first radical known to man who rebelled against the establishment and did it so effectively that he at least won his own kingdom — Lucifer“

    Saul Alinsky dedicates his book, “Rules for Radicals” to Lucifer.

    “Thirteen years after Alinsky died, some of his former students hired Barack Obama to a $13,000 a year job as a community organizer in South Chicago. In a few years he became very proficient in the Alinsky Method of community organizing and became an instructor and teacher of the Alinsky Method to other community organizers.”

    (snip)

    Obama quotes:

    “I want you to argue with them and get in their face,”

    “like a spy behind enemy lines,”

    “organize black folks”

    Saul Alinsky quotes:

    “laugh at the enemy”

    “Ridicule, is man’s most potent weapon. It is almost impossible to counterattack ridicule. Also it infuriates the opposition, who then react to your advantage.”

    “Rub raw the resentments of the people; search out controversy and issues.”

    “Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.”

    # # # #

  24. citizenwells

    Pete.
    Yes, the Constitution.

  25. ” The common law is the will of Mankind issuing from the Life of the People” .

    C. Wilfred Jenks

    Jenks is a global Communist .

    Check it out , the Marxist qoute can be found on the Holders new USJD web site , also notice the black theme .

    Holder is a proud Marxist .

    http://www.justice.gov/

  26. Free Speech // July 18, 2010 at 10:51 am

    Sorry but there will be no political solution to bo crisis.

    http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2010/jul/16/polls-harry-reid-grabs-lead-over-sharron-angle/
    *******************************************
    Don’t believe any polls coming out of Vegas, they have as much credibility as Obama.

    Anyone but Reid, I’d rather take the first 545 people out of the phone book to represent me than the liars we have now.

    Tea party is strong in Nevada, and will show up for Sharron on election day.

    A guy I met recently here in Reno gave me a bumper sticker:” REID MY LIPS HARRY GO TO HELL”.

  27. bo Regime arresting Reporters in Louisiana who try to report on bo/bp oil spill and threatening to arrest anyone with a camera.

  28. We can post here on CW’s site all we want, but we need to do more. We must reach those who don’t care and/or are oblivious and ignorant, especially the younger generation. All nationalities need to get the message.

    I offer a simple suggestion.

    Make signs, posters, flyers and even 3 x 5 cards or business cards or any other means you can think of…email all your contacts.

    Of course other avenues are being addressed here, but seems to me it’s better to cover as many bases as you can, in case one approach fails.

    Poster/card and email suggestion:

    So, now WE know
    “CHANGE EQUALS”

    MORE Debt
    MORE Taxes
    MORE Welfare
    MORE Regulation
    MORE Government
    MORE Wasteful Spending
    MORE CORRUPTION!

    OBAMA YOU’RE DESTROYING AMERICA!

    VOTE THEM OUT IN NOVEMBER.

  29. Free Speech

  30. hapnHal – 12:57 PM
    I offer a simple suggestion.

    Make signs, posters, flyers and even 3 x 5 cards or business cards or any other means you can think of…email all your contacts.
    *******************************
    This is a very good suggestion, which can begin anytime, but past experience has shown that during the summer months the attention of most folks is on vacationing, outdoor activities, etc.

    The prime time to start a massive ad campaign is the first part of Sept., because the kids are back in school and people have settled down. The attention span is greater then.

    Your example is very good – says much in few effective words! Thanks!

  31. Obama’s Rules for Revolution – The Alinsky Model:

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/23014651/Rules-for-Revolution

  32. ARMY – D.A.V. 12:33 PM

    ” The common law is the will of Mankind issuing from the Life of the People” .

    C. Wilfred Jenks

    Jenks is a global Communist .

    Check it out , the Marxist qoute can be found on the Holders new USJD web site , also notice the black theme .

    Holder is a proud Marxist .

    http://www.justice.gov/

    ****************************
    Army, doesn’t it just beat all to see the layout on the Justice Dept. page? Little by little (not too slowly) every vestige of our country’s heritage
    is being removed by these Marxist thugs. This
    Jenks fellow has been a strong advocate of global justice and is certainly a marxist.

  33. Free Speech

    bo/BP spraying Corexit over populated areas:

  34. AZ-legal citizen

    Bill Cutting // July 18, 2010 at 10:33 am

    Chrysler Case update from NBC blog.
    ————————————-
    I am so happy to hear that there is still someone fighting this case. I was afraid the Gov’t was getting away with what they have done to Chrysler which in my opinon is only the beggining of what the Gov’t plans for other companies and Stockholders. Unions are running the White House. Campaign Contributions have corrupted the Gov’t.

  35. Free Speech

  36. I havent posted in awhile,been in and out reading. But this is off topic.talked to my baby today rember i have 3 in army,his unit is set to deploy to iraq,they were bringing 7 units back and sending 2,well they were only sending a few tanks(very few) with both units.as of now there are alot of tanks going,something is up.cant say more for fear of getting someone in trouble.But sounds like they have another plan.I hope not.but the things you here that make you go holy sh^^.

  37. Free Speech

    kudos // July 18, 2010 at 2:16 pm

    “well they were only sending a few tanks(very few) with both units.as of now there are alot of tanks going”

    *************************************

    Lot of tanks going home to US or to Iraq?

  38. CNN happy to paint Tea Partiers as racists, but won’t report on the Blago and OB corruption. They don’t report how liberals called Bush a Nazi or a variety of other things. The media has really turned into propaganda and nothing else.

  39. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    Free Speech // July 18, 2010 at 9:58 am

    I largely agree with you. At this point there are few definitive facts. We can only have semi-informed opinions. Sharing ideas and insights can be beneficial at this point.

    bo lies again

    Like I have said many times: How do you tell if Zero is lying? His mouth is moving!” But at this point it is not clear what he is lying about or how big the lie is or why.

    SORRY I DON’T BELIEVE THIS GUY HAS A PERFECT RECORD AT 5000 FEET.

    Depth is only a real issue in terms of drilling the relief well main bore. That has been done. They are now just finessing the intersection of the two bores. And even if the guy DID have a perfect record, it does not prove #41. I just mean to say that if I had to pick something to worry about, this would be down the list a ways.

    Use of dispersants is bo/bp “PR stunt…” to hide the extent of the catastrophe.

    PR stunt, indeed, and VERY dangerous chemicals. This is near the top of my list of worrisome items.

    CC reports: One of the submersible “search patrols” has discovered what appears to be seepage through the seabed sand and mud, not too far from the well head. It is being investigated and I will report how it turns out as soon as something is known for sure.

    It now seems that what was being seen was gunk and gack being whooshed up from the seabed by ROV propellers. (But that does not mean there are no leaks anywhere, just that this one report was likely not it.)

    I do believe that bo/bp are attempting to hide leaks away from well head.

    This could be true. Certainly if there really were such leaks and if BO/BP knew about them, they would have every motivation to hide them.

    bo/bp sabotaged explosion of the well head

    Like I said, this is consistent with his background and past behavior, but no compelling evidence of this – yet. Again, if this were an inside job, they would be standing on their heads trying to cover it up. WAIT! They ARE standing on their heads trying to cover it up. Wonder what that means?

    caused unintended consequences of their crime.

    It is very likely that whatever caused the explosion also caused “unintended” problems elsewhere. But as yet unknown.

    Bottom line: Things are very suspicious but it is very hard right now to unravel the facts, the lies, the coverups, the suspicions, the wishful thinking, and the tin hat stuff. Much more and serious investigation is needed.

  40. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    Free Speech // July 18, 2010 at 1:00 pm

    ===========================

    This is a good video/audio. Simple, direct, easy to understand. I believe it is at least approximately true. I am going to reference it in my daily report which I will post soon.

  41. going not comeing

  42. Free Speech

    Cabby – AZ // July 18, 2010 at 11:51 am

    Free Speech // July 18, 2010 at 11:44 am

    Cabby – AZ // July 18, 2010 at 11:38 am

    OBAMA ‘S KENYON CRIMES :
    AN IMPEACHABLE OFFENSE ?
    ************************************
    U can’t be serious. No President in historyCabby – AZ // July 18, 2010 at 11:51 am

    Free Speech // July 18, 2010 at 11:44 am

    Cabby – AZ // July 18, 2010 at 11:38 am

    OBAMA ‘S KENYON CRIMES :
    AN IMPEACHABLE OFFENSE ?
    ************************************
    U can’tCabby – AZ // July 18, 2010 at 11:51 am

    Free Speech // July 18, 2010 at 11:44 am

    Cabby – AZ // July 18, 2010 at 11:38 am

    OBAMA ‘S KENYON CRIMES :
    AN IMPEACHABLE OFFENSE ?
    ************************************
    U can’t be serious. No President in history has Cabby – AZ // July 18, 2010 at 11:51 am

    Free Speech // July 18, 2010 at 11:44 am

    Cabby – AZ // July 18, 2010 at 11:38 am

    OBAMA ‘S KENYON CRIMES :
    AN IMPEACHABLE OFFENSE ?
    ************************************
    U can’t be serious. No President in history has ever been removed from office by impeachment. The last time it was tried was with Clinton and the Senate failed to convict and remove him. congress with a majority of demRats is not going to impeach let alone remove bo.

  43. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    GOM Oil Gusher Update

    The new cap seems to be holding tight. It is showing a pressure somewhat less than would be expected of the well bore were undamaged. So therefore they cannot prove with confidence the integrity of the well. However, whatever leaks there are must be minor since no noticeable seafloor plumes have been detected. (But remember, any scientist will tell you that a failure to find something doesn’t prove it’s absence — although confidence does improve with increased searching.)

    Except in Iraq, of course, were poking around for WMD failed to find any – and from which every person in the free world now believes that this PROVES that there isn’t any or never was. Ooops, sorry for the OT sidetrip, but it really P’s me off.

    The worst problem is what is unknown – and the large number of suspicious circumstances. And the worst part of THAT (i.e. the worst of the worst) is the media blackout. Besides being illegal and unconstitutional, it is TOTALLY FRIGHTENING. Especially in light of what we are being told as the official story, there is nothing so awful as to justify a blackout.

    From this I think is possible to reliably conclude:

    1. Regardless of success to kill the well, the extent and potential danger from the oil already spilled, and the toxic chemicals used to disperse it, is far worse than we are being told.

    2. Very possibly some acts of terrorism or sabotage are involved.

    Here is a video you might find helpful:

    see Free Speech // July 18, 2010 at 1:00 pm

    I cannot verify in detail the statements made nor the credibility of the two specific individuals. I can only say that it is consistent with many credible anecdotal reports from people in the region who have no particular reason to make things up. Also, the total lack of coverage on the MSM seems to corroborate the situation.

  44. Cabby-AZ…… thanks

    Yes, many folks are on vacation and having fun. Where I live, every weekend we have many community activities, and many people are from out of town. They may not want to listen, but then some do. I throw a dig in here and a dig there, and you should see the responses I get.

    Yesterday was a prime example, when I mentioned that O had his dog BO flown on a government jet to Maine for their vacation. I followed up with a “BO for President!”

    We need to start grass root campaigns, now! I fear if we wait, it may be too late.

  45. Free Speech

    Cabby – AZ // July 18, 2010 at 11:38 am

    OBAMA ‘S KENYON CRIMES :
    AN IMPEACHABLE OFFENSE ?
    ************************************
    U can’t be serious. No President in history has ever been removed from office by impeachment. The last time it was tried was with Clinton and the Senate failed to convict and remove him. congress with a majority of demRats is not going to impeach let alone remove bo.

    The only way Patriots can take action to remove bo is by the Grand Jury process.

    United States Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia stated in the case of United States vs. Williams:

    “… its (the Grand Jury) function is that it belongs to no branch of the institutional Government, serving as a kind of buffer or referee between the Government and the people.”

    For information on forming a Secret Grand Jury to investigate crimes go here:

    http://grandjury.blogtownhall.com

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/06/how-to-start-and-lead-citizens-grand.html

    http://dewdropwarriors.blogspot.com/2009_03_01_archive.html

    For information on Crimes committed by the BHO campaign:

    https://citizenwells.wordpress.com/category/nashville

  46. bob strauss

    Starla, This is what the democraps are trying to do to the Tea Party, and to those of us who know their tactics, it has become quite obvious.
    *******************************************
    “Ridicule, is man’s most potent weapon. It is almost impossible to counterattack ridicule. Also it infuriates the opposition, who then react to your advantage.”

    “Rub raw the resentments of the people; search out controversy and issues.”

    “Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.”

  47. bob strauss

    #

    AZ-legal citizen // July 18, 2010 at 1:41 pm

    Bill Cutting // July 18, 2010 at 10:33 am

    Chrysler Case update from NBC blog.
    ————————————-
    I am so happy to hear that there is still someone fighting this case. I was afraid the Gov’t was getting away with what they have done to Chrysler which in my opinon is only the beggining of what the Gov’t plans for other companies and Stockholders. Unions are running the White House. Campaign Contributions have corrupted the Gov’t.
    **************************************

    One of the governments (Obama’s lawyer) fears, was that the Chrysler case could lead to a Quo Warranto of the chief executive, Obama, who’s government has taken away their property, and livelihood.

  48. SOME MUST READ ARTICLES
    FROM:

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    There Are MANY Articles On This Page.
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    Some MUST READ ARTICES on this page are called: (Just scroll up & down)

    1. Obama: America’s National Nightmare!
    Can America & Israel Survive 4 Years
    Of Obama?

    2. OBAMA’S “United Fascist States Of
    America”

    3. “Obama’s Hate America Tour”

    4. “Obama’s Racism And
    Anti-Americanism”

    5. “Congress Uphold The US
    Constitution”

    6. “Is Barack Obama Mentally Unstable?”

    Excerpt: “Without a doubt Barack
    Obama is a racist. His own words
    make this an undeniable fact. He views
    the world and sees history as an
    ongoing racial conflict of white
    suppression and oppression of
    blacks. He has a Radical, Militant
    Black Panther Mentality, and a
    “Black vs. White” outlook on race.
    Obama has taken his fury against
    whites and channelled it into politics.
    […] I believe that for Obama, being
    the President of the United States
    would be his way of conquering the
    people he hates. Becoming the
    President would be for Obama, the
    ultimate victory, and final triumph
    over whites, whom he views as his
    enemy. Obama would cherish sitting
    in the Oval Office, it would be for him
    the supreme satisfaction of, “eating
    tiger meat” once again. I am
    convinced that Obama’s cloaked
    hatred for whites is the burning
    energy and the driving force behind
    his run for the White House!”

    “Beware of false prophets, who come
    to you in sheep’s clothing, but
    underneath are ravenous wolves.
    By their fruits you will know them.”
    Jesus Christ – Mathew Chapter 7:15-16.

    7. “Obama Wages A Tough “Politically
    Correct” War On Muslim Terrorism”

    8. “American Miranda Rights For
    Muslim Terrorists?”

    9. “OBAMA WINS THE NOBEL PEACE
    PRIZE”

    10. “President Barrack Hussein Obama”

    11. “The Democratic Response To The
    Muslim Attack on America”

    TO READ THE ARTICLES GO HERE:

    http://www.godsaveusa.com/obama.htm

  49. 2:55pm……

    Sorry, forgot to mention when I said “BO for President”

    BO has papers!

  50. Philo-Publius

    George Will: NAACP Resolution Is ‘Left-Wing McCarthyism’
    http://tinyurl.com/3yy5vwp

  51. Free Speech

    bob strauss // July 18, 2010 at 3:32 pm

    One of the governments (Obama’s lawyer) fears, was that the Chrysler case could lead to a Quo Warranto of the chief executive, Obama, who’s government has taken away their property, and livelihood.

    **************************************

    What is the basis of that assumption? Do you really expect Holder to file a Quo Warranto action against bo? Do you expect a fed judge to grant Quo Warranto?

  52. Free Speech – 2:39 PM
    OBAMA ‘S KENYON CRIMES :
    AN IMPEACHABLE OFFENSE ?
    ************************************
    “U can’t be serious. No President in history has ever been removed from office by impeachment. The last time it was tried was with Clinton and the Senate failed to convict and remove him. congress with a majority of demRats is not going to impeach let alone remove bo.”
    ******************************
    FS, you say, “U can’t be serious.” I am as serious as the Founding Fathers were who provided in the Constitution for removal of a President . Now, just because no one has ever been removed from office in the past doesn’t mean that it can’t happen in the future. After all,
    the CGJ method has not been used either for many years (not in the way you ascribe).

    Andrew Johnson was impeached by the House and acquitted by just ONE vote in the Senate. Otherwise, he would have gone bye-bye.

    As far as Clinton is concerned, when the Senate voted to acquit him, I said then that the Repubs responsible for leaving him in office would rue the day. Perhaps, if he had been removed then, we wouldn’t have an Obama in the WH today. Don’t ever kid yourselves, Bill and Hillary are just as devoted to Saul Alinsky as Obama. I would suggest reading some of their biographies written in the 1990’s. Bill was a better politician than BHO because he knew how to go along to get along with a Repub congress.

    I agree that impeachment wouldn’t succeed
    the way things are now, but that doesn’t mean that it should be discarded. FS, you sometimes make statements that are too dogmatic. You don’t know for certain WHAT is going to happen, and neither do I.

    In fact, if the Repubs can get a simple majority in the House in Nov. (and don’t come back with this prediction that we won’t be having elections – YOU SIMPLY DO NOT KNOW) then Articles of Impeachment should be introduced. In that way there can be an open revelation of the crimes Obama is charged with and also his ineligibility. There could be at last an open display and would attract some kind of media attention. This, imo, could even trigger SCOTUS to get involved, who knows?

    When the Senate would take it up at trial, well, by that time, some of the Dems may even want him out. These are all unknowns.

    This has a quicker chance of success than the CGJ approach, with all due respect to your convictions. It also would influence public opinion far more, because the info would be out there for the people to see, if someone brave enough in the House would step forward to introduce impeachment. With CGJ everything is kept secret, and if presentments are made they stay secret, too, unless some court (you think SCOTUS) takes the case. This is a very iffy situation as a practical matter.

    I think we all agree on this: We are not choosey as to HOW he goes. He must be unseated, but it MUST be done constitutionally. We cannot seriously entertain hysterical talk about someone going in there and putting him in chains, etc., no matter how sincere we are.
    He has to be brought to trial.

  53. bob strauss

    #

    Free Speech // July 18, 2010 at 3:42 pm

    bob strauss // July 18, 2010 at 3:32 pm

    One of the governments (Obama’s lawyer) fears, was that the Chrysler case could lead to a Quo Warranto of the chief executive, Obama, who’s government has taken away their property, and livelihood.

    **************************************

    What is the basis of that assumption? Do you really expect Holder to file a Quo Warranto action against bo? Do you expect a fed judge to grant Quo Warranto?
    ***************************************

    Leo Donofrio’s blog, @ Natural Born Citizen. Steve Pidgeon and Leo Donofrio are both two of the first attorneys on Obama’s lack of eligibility. Leo’s case was ignored by SCOTUS

  54. Free Speech

    OBAMA ‘S KENYON CRIMES :
    AN IMPEACHABLE OFFENSE ?
    ************************************
    U can’t be serious. No President in history has ever been removed from office by impeachment. Many politicians have been removed from office by Grand Jury indictment.

    The only way Patriots can take action to remove bo is by the Grand Jury process.

    United States Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia stated in the case of United States vs. Williams:

    “… its (the Grand Jury) function is that it belongs to no branch of the institutional Government, serving as a kind of buffer or referee between the Government and the people.”

    For information on forming a Secret Grand Jury to investigate crimes go here:

    http://grandjury.blogtownhall.com

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/06/how-to-start-and-lead-citizens-grand.html

    http://dewdropwarriors.blogspot.com/2009_03_01_archive.html

    For information on Crimes committed by the BHO campaign:

    https://citizenwells.wordpress.com/category/nashville

  55. bob strauss

    Free Speech, check this out.

    Old Chrysler’s Attorneys Have Withdrawn Their Improper Birther Footnote From The Reply Memo.
    Posted in Uncategorized on March 3, 2010 by naturalborncitizen

    In a previous post, I took issue with Old Chrysler’s attorneys despicably playing the birther card in their Response to our Motion To Reconsider the Court’s June 9, 2009 Rejection Order and June 19, 2009 Rejection Opinion. In our official Reply to their Response, I petitioned the Court to have that Footnote struck from the record. Judge Gonzalez treated (Footnote 14, pg. 24) our request as a “Deemed Motion To Strike” and gave Old Chrysler’s attorneys time to answer that Motion.

    On Feb. 11, 2010 Old Chrysler’s attorneys (Jones Day) officially withdrew Footnote 13 from their Response memo, stating:

    Response and Notice of Withdrawal of Footnote 13

    6. Although the Debtors disagree with the Movants’ claims in their Deemed Motion to Strike (particularly since the Debtors contend that the Movants placed at issue the timing of their filing and any motivations and explanations related to such timing), the Debtors hereby withdraw footnote 13 from the Objection to resolve this matter and avoid the need for further litigation of this matter.

    Having severely embarrassed themselves by extending their smear campaign against our clients to an official Court document, this retreat appears to be damage control as they must be aware that Steve and I are preparing a Rule 11 Sanctions Motion against them for making obviously fraudulent statements regarding the testimony of two key witnesses in their Response to our Motion.

    A poker reference is again necessary. Old Chrysler’s birther footnote was nothing more than a distraction bluff aimed at disguising the weakness of their hand. The record of the case clearly shows that Old Chrysler was the only party directly responsible for ripping the livelihood from our clients. We didn’t go after the Government or raise the eligibility issue in our papers. Our Motion was specifically directed against Chrysler activity. Old Chrysler’s attorneys sought to raise the birther issue as a distraction from the law. Had the law actually supported their position, they would not have sought to distract a soul.

    Lucky their position has such an ally as Judge Gonzalez who – by failing to correct his own fraudulent statement in Footnote 21 of the June 19, 2009 Rejection Opinion – has now elevated his transgression to intentional fraud.

    Personally, I have never seen a more obvious fraud perpetrated by a Judge. Where the witness clearly answered, “No”, the Judge has changed the answer to “Yes”. If this behavior is not repudiated by an appellate court down the road (and we will be going all the way to SCOTUS), then you can kiss any hope of a just America goodbye. This is the test case to see how far they can push small businesses into submission. The gauntlet is here. If Judge Gonzalez can change testimony at will, so can any other judge. And so they will if this is allowed to go unpunished.

    Leo C. Donofrio, Esq. for the Law Office of Pidgeon & Donofrio GP

  56. hapnHal – 2:55 PM

    We need to start grass root campaigns, now! I fear if we wait, it may be too late.
    ***********************
    Your point is well taken. Absolutely, we need to start now, but I was thinking about a special, all out “blitz” after school starts – High intensity!!!

  57. Free Speech

    bob strauss // July 18, 2010 at 3:53 pm

    Do you really expect Holder to file a Quo Warranto action against bo? Do you expect a fed judge to grant Quo Warranto?

  58. Bill Cutting

    Obama brings male companion on family vacation. Fly’s in on seperate jet with Dog!!

    “Arriving in a small jet before the Obamas was the first dog, Bo, a Portuguese water dog given as a present by the late U.S. Sen Ted Kennedy, D-Mass.; and the president’s personal aide Reggie Love, who chatted with Baldacci.”

    http://www.onlinesentinel.com/news/white-house-wanderers-tour-acadia_2010-07-16.html

  59. Free Speech // July 18, 2010 at 3:56 pm

    OBAMA ‘S KENYON CRIMES :
    AN IMPEACHABLE OFFENSE ?
    ************************************
    Free Speech, if this post (I didn’t print it out) is supposed to be in response to mine of 3:44 PM,
    you just completely sidestepped the issues brought forth and resorted to your usual repetition of CGJ links and reference to J. Scalia.
    Can you interact with a different viewpoint?

  60. bob strauss

    #

    Free Speech // July 18, 2010 at 3:58 pm

    bob strauss // July 18, 2010 at 3:53 pm

    Do you really expect Holder to file a Quo Warranto action against bo? Do you expect a fed judge to grant Quo Warranto?
    ****************************************
    Free Speech, I think the hope is, if the Chrysler case goes to SCOTUS, the illegality of the Obama administration will be exposed via discovery. AKA quo warranto. Holder is Obama’s sock puppet, he will never act.

  61. Bill Cutting // July 18, 2010 at 4:04 pm

    Obama brings male companion on family vacation. Fly’s in on seperate jet with Dog!!

    “Arriving in a small jet before the Obamas was the first dog, Bo, a Portuguese water dog given as a present by the late U.S. Sen Ted Kennedy, D-Mass.; and the president’s personal aide Reggie Love, who chatted with Baldacci.”
    **************************
    Oh, boy! The dog, Bo, traveling separately is bad enough, but then BHO has to have his “personal trainer”, Reggie Love, and we know…..we have heard…….
    who he is. They say that Rahm Emanuel always has a male traveling companion also. Sickening!!

  62. bob strauss

    #

    Cabby – AZ // July 18, 2010 at 4:14 pm

    Bill Cutting // July 18, 2010 at 4:04 pm

    Obama brings male companion on family vacation. Fly’s in on seperate jet with Dog!!

    “Arriving in a small jet before the Obamas was the first dog, Bo, a Portuguese water dog given as a present by the late U.S. Sen Ted Kennedy, D-Mass.; and the president’s personal aide Reggie Love, who chatted with Baldacci.”
    **************************
    Oh, boy! The dog, Bo, traveling separately is bad enough, but then BHO has to have his “personal trainer”, Reggie Love, and we know…..we have heard…….
    who he is. They say that Rahm Emanuel always has a male traveling companion also. Sickening!!
    *****************************************

    Only the best for our elected representatives, and their staff.

    If I really said what I am thinking CW would ban me for life. We must be politically correct.

  63. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    The Central International Crisis of Our Times

    [ This is OT to what usually happens on this blog, but it is so important I want to encourage each of you to read and ponder this, and to distribute as widely as possible. ]

    We all like to kvetch and plot on a different urgent topic – because it is so “in your face” and so deep into our pocketbooks. But there is actually a much bigger issue that we dare not ignore. In the simplest terms, we ask:

    1. What is Iran up to?

    2. What to do about it?

    These questions are crucial, intense, and urgent. We are at or near a tipping point. For Israel, at least, these are existential issues. (Do you really know (feel!) what ‘existential’ means? It is not just a big word! It is a notch worse than genocide!!) For the US, as the planet’s largest most prosperous and influential “good guys”, this is a defining moment. Unfortunately this is not just important to the WORLD, but the resolution of this issue is of the most critical interest directly to the United States. Alas, even more so than domestic issues of governance and economy.

    It is unlikely the summer will expire before the SHTF.

    This is a long read – a short book or a pamphlet really – but it provides essential context and analyzes options.

    http://www.weeklystandard.com/articles/should-israel-bomb-iran

    (Or maybe it would be easier to buy the magazine on the newsstand when it comes out next week?)

  64. Re: bob strauss // July 18, 2010 at 3:09 pm

    Starla, This is what the democraps are trying to do to the Tea Party, and to those of us who know their tactics, it has become quite obvious.
    *******************************************

    Hi Bob,

    At: http://www.CitizenWells.wordpress.com

    Please find this Article at CW’s:

    “Obama, Saul Alinsky, Lucifer, Community Organizer, Ridicule, Socialists, McCain, Raila Odinga, ODM, Rules for Radicals, Alinsky Method, Ridicule older people”

    September 23, 2008 · 7 Comments

    It is located on the right side of the screen. Look at the heading “Top Posts” and under the heading “Top Posts,” Scroll to down to the eighth post, the one I listed above and click it.

    For your convenience I have listed some
    some comments from this post that tells us what to do when Obama’s Unconstitutional, Illegal, & Immoral Team uses Alinsky’s Rules For Radicals Faith
    humble, moral, virtuous, Constitutional, & Legal, Faithful & True Christian Americans:

    “Leeballz // September 23, 2008 at 11:38 am

    “Ridicule, is man’s most potent weapon. It is almost impossible to counterattack ridicule. Also it infuriates the opposition, who then react to your advantage.”
    – Saul Alinsky

    I’m gonna have to disagree with Saul on this one. Ridicule and personal attacks in my humble opinion show that you have lost and have no argument left. It is the hallmark of the unconfident debater, and somewhat juvenile in the political arena. Furthermore, it shows a lack of conviction or passion for the topic being discussed and runs the risk of making one look aloof.”

    # # # #

    “citizenwells // September 23, 2008 at 11:43 am

    Leebalz.

    I would agree with you if your audience is rational and educated. However, this tactic does work with the core base of the Obama camp.”

    # # # #

    “Leeballz // September 23, 2008 at 1:13 pm

    I agree. I have debated these types for days on forums and usually they are the ones that look ignorant when we are finished. I have found that those who like the “Ridicule” tactic, in a serious debate, lack the stamina to keep it up. A “logical torpedo” into the hull of their ridicule argument will normally sink their ship quicker then the Lusitania.

    However, I have to admit I sometimes get the kitten and ball of yarn mentality and counter the ridicule tactic with ridicule itself.

    Apparently unknown to Saul, the ridicule tactic can easily be counter attacked
    with ridicule itself; to the point where the original ridiculer is running for cover at the end. I find that those initiating the ridicule tactic usually are not the best defenders of it and crumble fast.

    Ridicule is not only the hallmark of the unconfident debater, but those who initiate it are usually doing so out of fear and trying to bully their opponent. When I encounter it, it’s almost like blood in the water for me. The loudest dog has the weakest bite. This is Obama.”

  65. It should say:

    For your convenience I have listed some
    some comments from this post that tells us what to do when Obama’s Hate-Filled Completely Illegal, Unconstitutional, Immoral, Sinful, Evil-Hearted, Ungodly, Treasonous Traitors Team uses Alinsky’s Rules For Radicals TO FIGHT
    AGAINST We The People Who Are
    Faithful & True American Patriots who are Humble, Virtuous, Constitutional, & Legal, Ethical, Moral, & Faithful & True Christian Americans….who are being the Holy Truth & the Facts & Virtuous Ethical Wisdom to these sinners, liars, & evil lunatics.

  66. It should say: Bring not being….& 1 some

    For your convenience I have listed
    some comments from this post that tells us what to do when Obama’s Hate-Filled Completely Illegal, Unconstitutional, Immoral, Sinful, Evil-Hearted, Ungodly, Treasonous Traitors Team uses Alinsky’s Rules For Radicals TO FIGHT
    AGAINST We The People Who Are
    Faithful & True American Patriots who are Humble, Virtuous, Constitutional, & Legal, Ethical, Moral, & Faithful & True Christian Americans….who are bringing the Holy Truth & the Facts & Virtuous Ethical & Legal Wisdom to these sinners, liars, & evil lunatics.

  67. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    Cabby – AZ // July 18, 2010 at 3:44 pm

    =============================

    Cabby, as you know I have forsworn certain topics, so I will limit my remarks to “style” and “rhetoric” in general.

    I found it more than passing strange that a Patriot pushing a constitutional provision is criticized, solely on the basis of it not succeeding in the past, by another poster who has been pushing a different constitutional provision that has failed to work in the past.

    I think an approach of “everything is a long shot, so let’s try lots of things”, would be the proper way forward about now.

    SIGH

  68. A brief recitation of some famous lines from The Rubaiyat of Omar Khayyam, The Astronomer-Poet of Persia, for the last four administrations and 6-7, 12, 17, 23:

    “Dear love, couldst thou and I with fate conspire To grasp this sorry scheme of things entire, Would we not shatter it to bits And then remould it nearer to the hearts desire?”

    The key to discernment is the portal of light.

  69. Free Speech

    bob strauss // July 18, 2010 at 4:13 pm

    #

    Free Speech // July 18, 2010 at 3:58 pm

    bob strauss // July 18, 2010 at 3:53 pm

    Do you really expect Holder to file a Quo Warranto action against bo? Do you expect a fed judge to grant Quo Warranto?
    ****************************************
    Free Speech, I think the hope is, if the Chrysler case goes to SCOTUS, the illegality of the Obama administration will be exposed via discovery. AKA quo warranto. Holder is Obama’s sock puppet, he will never act.
    ****************************************

    What does the Chrysler case have to do with Quo Warranto? How does the Chrysler case get Holder to file Quo Warranto? How does the Chrysler get a fed judge to grant Quo Warranto?

  70. Citizen Carlyle – 2:42 PM
    “The worst problem is what is unknown – and the large number of suspicious circumstances. And the worst part of THAT (i.e. the worst of the worst) is the media blackout. Besides being illegal and unconstitutional, it is TOTALLY FRIGHTENING. Especially in light of what we are being told as the official story, there is nothing so awful as to justify a blackout.”
    ***************************
    CC, we know the above is the Obama way, but what official reason, if any, is given for the media blackout? I haven’t heard anything substantive. Even in times of dire disasters our country has not banned the press from reporting.

    Why is there not more “noise” being made about this? Why aren’t the states involved protesting more about the blackout? Maybe they have too many other matters to attend to? The only real protest, of sorts, I heard was on CNN, because Anderson Cooper had established a presence on the Gulf, but I think that has died down now.

    We NEED TO KNOW exactly why the press is banned! “Inquiring minds want to know,” but more seriously we HAVE A RIGHT TO KNOW.

  71. Free Speech

    Cabby – AZ // July 18, 2010 at 11:38 am

    No the issue is that impeachment of bo is NOT going to happen. No President in history has ever been removed from office by impeachment. The last time it was tried was with Clinton and the Senate failed to convict and remove him. congress with a majority of demRats is not going to impeach let alone remove bo.

    The only way Patriots can take action to remove bo is by the Grand Jury process.

    United States Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia stated in the case of United States vs. Williams:

    “… its (the Grand Jury) function is that it belongs to no branch of the institutional Government, serving as a kind of buffer or referee between the Government and the people.”

    For information on forming a Secret Grand Jury to investigate crimes go here:

    http://grandjury.blogtownhall.com

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/06/how-to-start-and-lead-citizens-grand.html

    http://dewdropwarriors.blogspot.com/2009_03_01_archive.html

    For information on Crimes committed by the BHO campaign:

    https://citizenwells.wordpress.com/category/nashville

  72. Free Speech – 4:55 PM

    Did you read my post of 3:44 PM? Your response of 4:55 PM does not address my points at all. I would be interested in a more specific response.
    Thank you.

  73. Free Speech

    Cabby – AZ // July 18, 2010 at 11:38 am

    The point is that impeachment of bo is NOT going to happen. No President in history has ever been removed from office by impeachment. The last time it was tried was with Clinton and the Senate failed to convict and remove him. congress with a majority of demRats is not going to impeach let alone remove bo.

    The only way Patriots can take action to remove bo is by the Grand Jury process.

    United States Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia stated in the case of United States vs. Williams:

    “… its (the Grand Jury) function is that it belongs to no branch of the institutional Government, serving as a kind of buffer or referee between the Government and the people.”

    For information on forming a Secret Grand Jury to investigate crimes go here:

    http://grandjury.blogtownhall.com

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/06/how-to-start-and-lead-citizens-grand.html

    http://dewdropwarriors.blogspot.com/2009_03_01_archive.html

    For information on Crimes committed by the BHO campaign:

    https://citizenwells.wordpress.com/category/nashville

  74. bob strauss

    Starla, Thank you for the information.

    It still infuriates me when lies are told and their excuse is, “that’s politics”.

  75. Philo-Publius

    Free Speech at 4:51 pm

    What does the Chrysler case have to do with Quo Warranto?
    ——————————————————–

    This is from an earlier post by Leo Donofrio explaining what they are doing.

    Re: Chrysler Dealers and Quo Warranto

    Just a quick update on the Quo Warranto aspect of our representing the Chrysler dealers. Both Steve Pidgeon and I agree that our clients should exhaust all possible remedies pertaining to the Chrysler bankruptcy before seeking Ex Relator status in the DC District Court. Filing a petition now in the DC District Court would be premature as we’ve recently filed a Notice of Appeal with the Southern District of New York. But we do represent 82 former Chrysler dealers – led by James Anderer – who support a future quo warranto action.

    http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/2010/03/11/re-chrysler-dealers-and-quo-warranto/

  76. Free Speech

    Philo-Publius // July 18, 2010 at 5:20 pm

    In other words no Quo Warranto action has been filed in the Chrysler case.

  77. bob strauss

    #

    Free Speech // July 18, 2010 at 4:51 pm

    bob strauss // July 18, 2010 at 4:13 pm

    #

    Free Speech // July 18, 2010 at 3:58 pm

    bob strauss // July 18, 2010 at 3:53 pm

    Do you really expect Holder to file a Quo Warranto action against bo? Do you expect a fed judge to grant Quo Warranto?
    ****************************************
    Free Speech, I think the hope is, if the Chrysler case goes to SCOTUS, the illegality of the Obama administration will be exposed via discovery. AKA quo warranto. Holder is Obama’s sock puppet, he will never act.
    ****************************************

    What does the Chrysler case have to do with Quo Warranto? How does the Chrysler case get Holder to file Quo Warranto? How does the Chrysler get a fed judge to grant Quo Warranto?
    ****************************************

    Free Speech, I am not a lawyer, but in the comments section of Leo Donofrio’s blog the subject was raised, whether or not the Chrysler case could lead to a quo warranto, based upon the POTUS is the executor of the law, and Obama has no legal right to take their businesses away because he was never a legal POTUS, because Obama is ineligible to hold the office of president, therefore the law can not be enforced.

    The government holds this concern that is why they immediately started calling Donofrio and Pidgeon birthers and calling this case another quest to discover Obama’s origins.

  78. bob strauss

    Free Speech // July 18, 2010 at 5:23 pm

    Philo-Publius // July 18, 2010 at 5:20 pm

    In other words no Quo Warranto action has been filed in the Chrysler case
    *******************************************

    Not yet.

  79. Free Speech

    bob strauss // July 18, 2010 at 5:26 pm

    According to what Philo posted no Quo Warranto has been filed in Chyrsler Case.

  80. Free Speech

    bob strauss // July 18, 2010 at 5:28 pm

    Free Speech // July 18, 2010 at 5:23 pm

    Philo-Publius // July 18, 2010 at 5:20 pm

    In other words no Quo Warranto action has been filed in the Chrysler case
    *******************************************

    Not yet.
    ***************************************
    Thanks

  81. bob strauss

    #

    Free Speech // July 18, 2010 at 5:30 pm

    bob strauss // July 18, 2010 at 5:26 pm

    According to what Philo posted no Quo Warranto has been filed in Chyrsler Case.
    ***************************************

    Yes, but they left the door open, and that is what Obama’s lawyers are afraid of, there must be some vulnerability for Obama.

  82. Free Speech

    bob strauss // July 18, 2010 at 5:35 pm

    #

    Free Speech // July 18, 2010 at 5:30 pm

    bob strauss // July 18, 2010 at 5:26 pm

    According to what Philo posted no Quo Warranto has been filed in Chyrsler Case.
    ***************************************

    Yes, but they left the door open, and that is what Obama’s lawyers are afraid of, there must be some vulnerability for Obama.

    ****************************************
    There is nothing that bo’s lawyers are afraid of Quo Waranto. They know Holder will not file it & no fed judge in DC is going to grant it.

  83. Free Speech

    Free Speech // July 18, 2010 at 5:39 pm

    bob strauss // July 18, 2010 at 5:35 pm

    #

    Free Speech // July 18, 2010 at 5:30 pm

    bob strauss // July 18, 2010 at 5:26 pm

    According to what Philo posted no Quo Warranto has been filed in Chyrsler Case.
    ***************************************

    Yes, but they left the door open, and that is what Obama’s lawyers are afraid of, there must be some vulnerability for Obama.

    ****************************************
    There is nothing that indicates bo’s lawyers are afraid of Quo Waranto. They know Holder will not file it & no fed judge in DC is going to grant it.

  84. bob strauss

    Free Speech, The Chrysler dealers injury is particularized, and they would have standing, after Obama took their business and livelihood away.

    Ask Obama,quo warranto? By what authority?

  85. bob strauss

    The Chrysler dealers can file in DC as EX RELATOR and SCOTUS will probably end up being the court that will decide their EX RELATOR status, to ask Obama, quo warranto? Or SCOTUS may do it themselves.

  86. Free Speech – 5:40 PM
    There is nothing that indicates bo’s lawyers are afraid of Quo Waranto. They know Holder will not file it & no fed judge in DC is going to grant it.
    *************************
    FS, if I recall correctly you are the one who often chastises the skeptics, and here you are trying to nullify any possible future Quo Warranto action which could occur as a result of the Chrysler suit(s). What is the motive here? You are certainly avid re. the CGJ movement, but when it comes to any other efforts, you usually try to nix them.

    Maybe as an attorney you are acting out as you would in a court before a judge. Try to not think of this forum as similar to a court of law. This is only a place to exchange ideas as we might if we were gathered person-to-person in more of a social setting, imho.

  87. Free Speech

    bob strauss // July 18, 2010 at 5:48 pm

    Free Speech, The Chrysler dealers injury is particularized, and they would have standing, after Obama took their business and livelihood away.
    *********************************

    Did the dealers sue bo? In the comment that you posted above the action is referred to as merely a bankruptcy claim.

  88. Free Speech

    Cabby – AZ // July 18, 2010 at 6:24 pm

    U misstate my position entirely with another straw man argument.

    I favor filing a Writ for Quo Warranto & a Writ of Mandamus as part of an Original Jurisdiction action before SCOTUS that should be obvious to anyone who has read my writings.

    United States Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia stated in the case of United States vs. Williams: “ the whole theory of its (the Grand Jury) function is that it belongs to no branch of the institutional Government, serving as a kind of buffer or referee between the Government and the people.”

    For information on forming a Secret Grand Jury to investigate crimes go here:

    http://grandjury.blogtownhall.com

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/06/how-to-start-and-lead-citizens-grand.html

    http://dewdropwarriors.blogspot.com/2009_03_01_archive.html

    For information on Crimes committed by the BHO campaign:

    https://citizenwells.wordpress.com/category/nashville

  89. Philo-Publius

    These are some notes I made from Leo (his comments) before he removed most of his blog postings.

    ——————————————————–
    The Federal Quo Warranto Statute Is The Only Constitutional Means of Removing a Sitting President Other Than Impeachment. A quo warranto may be issued from the United States District Court for the District of Columbia in the name of the United States against a person who within the District of Columbia usurps, intrudes into, or unlawfully holds or exercises, a franchise conferred by the United States or a public office of the United States, civil or military. The proceedings shall be deemed a civil action.

    The federal statute for quo warranto was tailor made by the legislature to challenge any person occupying any public office of the United States under questionable title thereto. If it can’t be done by quo warranto, then it can’t be done at all. Why? Because Congress is the only branch authorized by the Constitution to remove the President should he be found ineligible. And the only court Congress has delegated that power to is the District Court of the District of Columbia, and such delegation of power is strictly limited to actions governed by the federal quo warranto statute.

    The Department of Justice has already agreed that the POTUS eligibility can be reviewed and revoked in a recent court filing to one of the legal cases where the DOJ has represented President Obama.
    DOJ motion to dismiss in the Barnett case (page 16):

    “The authorizing statute for the District of Columbia sets forth a number of requirements, including a requirement that any quo warranto action be heard by the United States District Court for the District of Columbia. See D.C. Code Sections 16-3501 through 16-3503. Indeed, Plaintiffs acknowledge this requirement in their pleading, but seek to have this Court ignore it because of their apparent dissatisfaction with the precedents in the District of Columbia…”

  90. bob strauss

    Free Speech, Pidgeon, and Donofrio represent a large number of Chrysler dealers. I may be wrong but 85 dealers is what I remember.

  91. Free Speech

    There is nothing magical about quo warranto. It is just an old common law pleading, just another way of demanding that bo prove he is qualified to hold the office of POTUS.

    In modern pleadings, you don’t even have to use the term quo warranto to demand that someone prove their qualifications to hold office.

  92. bob strauss

    Lead Plaintiff James Anderer On Fox Business News: 12.29.09
    Posted in Uncategorized on December 31, 2009 by naturalborncitizen

    Video of James Anderer discussing the Motion to Reconsider filed on behalf of 21 former Chrysler dealers by Steve and I. This was during “Bulls and Bears” – Fox Business News, December 29, 2009 at 4:48 PM.

    P.S. Have a wonderful New Year.

    Leo Donofrio
    ***************************************

    Free speech, This is the lead plaintiff Mr. Anderer from the Chrysler dealers.

  93. Philo-Publius

    Leo had a wealth of information on his site before he decided to battle again in the courts.

  94. bob strauss

    Free Speech, It was 21 Chrysler dealers Obama put out of business, the 85 number is wrong.

  95. Free Speech

    spot.com/2009_03_01_archive.html

    For information on Crimes committed by the BHO campaign:

    https://citizenwells.wordpress.com/category/nashville
    Philo-Publius // July 18, 2010 at 6:44 pm

    These are some notes I made from Leo (his comments) before he removed most of his blog postings.

    ——————————————————–
    The Federal Quo Warranto Statute Is The Only Constitutional Means of Removing a Sitting President Other Than Impeachment.

    *******************************************

    That is simply not true. A quo warranto was never filed in the case of President Nixon though indictments certainly were and it was the fear of indictment that led Nixon to resign and seek a pardon from President Ford.

    *****************************************

    “The authorizing statute for the District of Columbia sets forth a number of requirements, including a requirement that any quo warranto action be heard by the United States District Court for the District of Columbia.
    &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&

    THAT IS THE PROBLEM WITH Leo D’s PROPOSAL HOLDER WILL NOT FILE HIS QW REQUEST & THE DC COURT WILL NOT GRANT THE DC COURT WILL NOT GRANT QW IN THE CASE OF bo.

  96. Free Speech

    Philo, be sure to put a “D” when referring to Leo “D” to avoid confusion. Thanks

    Philo-Publius // July 18, 2010 at 6:44 pm

    These are some notes I made from Leo D (his comments) before he removed most of his blog postings.

    ——————————————————–
    The Federal Quo Warranto Statute Is The Only Constitutional Means of Removing a Sitting President Other Than Impeachment.

    *******************************************

    That is simply not true. A quo warranto was never filed in the case of President Nixon though indictments certainly were and it was the fear of indictment that led Nixon to resign and seek a pardon from President Ford.

    *****************************************

    “The authorizing statute for the District of Columbia sets forth a number of requirements, including a requirement that any quo warranto action be heard by the United States District Court for the District of Columbia.
    &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&

    THAT IS THE PROBLEM WITH Leo D’s PROPOSAL HOLDER WILL NOT FILE HIS QW REQUEST & THE DC COURT WILL NOT GRANT THE DC COURT WILL NOT GRANT QW IN THE CASE OF bo.

  97. Philo-Publius

    Here is more explanation by Donofrio when he had a disagreement with Apuzzo.

    Leo Donofrio – Quo Warranto expanded

    QUO WARRANTO LEGAL BRIEF – Part 2
    http://www.w3f.com/patriots/warranto.html

  98. Free Speech

    Philo-Publius // July 18, 2010 at 7:07 pm

    What was the disagreement between Leo D & Mario all about?

  99. bob strauss

    Free Speech, Holder will be out of the picture on quo warranto if SCOTUS ultimately grants Leo D ex relator status, then Leo D will represent the interests of the United States of America. IMHO.

  100. Free Speech

    bob strauss // July 18, 2010 at 7:10 pm

    Free Speech, Holder will be out of the picture on quo warranto if SCOTUS ultimately grants Leo D ex relator status, then Leo D will represent the interests of the United States of America. IMHO.
    *******************************************

    SCOTUS wouldn’t even grant Leo D a hearing on Leo D’s case against Ms Wells.

    Then Leo D called the Justices a bunch of “WUSSIES” on his blog.

    So why would SCOTUS allow “Leo D” to ” represent the interests of the United States of America?”

  101. Please cast your 3 votes to get Attorney Mario Apuzzo on the Judge Andrew Napolitano show to discuss the eligibility issue. Nothing ventured, nothing gained. Please cast your votes and lets give this a try. Pass this link along to other sites and blogs and Twitter and Facebook lists too.

    http://freedomwatch.uservoice.com/forums/16626-freedom-watch-guest-suggestions/suggestions/268573-mario-apuzzo-esq-

  102. bob strauss

    Free Speech, The law works in mysterious ways, the bad part about it is, it takes too long.

  103. bob strauss

    #

    RJ // July 18, 2010 at 7:18 pm

    Please cast your 3 votes to get Attorney Mario Apuzzo on the Judge Andrew Napolitano show to discuss the eligibility issue. Nothing ventured, nothing gained. Please cast your votes and lets give this a try. Pass this link along to other sites and blogs and Twitter and Facebook lists too.

    http://freedomwatch.uservoice.com/forums/16626-freedom-watch-guest-suggestions/suggestions/268573-mario-apuzzo-esq-
    *****************************************

    RJ, We need to get CW on with the judge. CW’s knowledge of the various subjects surrounding Obama are unequaled.

  104. bob strauss

    So why would SCOTUS allow “Leo D” to ” represent the interests of the United States of America?”

    He would be a far sight better than our current Attorney General.

  105. Philo-Publius

    Free Speech @ 7:10 pm
    What was the disagreement between Leo D & Mario all about?
    ——————————————

    See here
    http://puzo1.blogspot.com/2009/11/quo-warranto-and-kerchner-v-obama-and.html

    Donofrio’s reply was: Misconceptionw About Quo Warranto

  106. bob strauss

    Philo-Publius, Thanks for posting the info from Donofrio on quo warranto, much better than my paraphrasing.

  107. Free Speech

    bob strauss // July 18, 2010 at 7:43 pm

    So why would SCOTUS allow “Leo D” to ” represent the interests of the United States of America?”

    He would be a far sight better than our current Attorney General.
    ***************************************

    That is not the question.

    SCOTUS wouldn’t even grant Leo D a hearing on Leo D’s case against Ms Wells.

    Then Leo D called the Justices a bunch of “WUSSIES” on his blog.

    So the question is why would SCOTUS allow “Leo D” to ” represent the interests of the United States of America” after he failed to even get a hearing in Donofrio v. Wells, then insulted the Supreme Court Justices?

  108. force.org/freedomcontent.cfm?fuseaction=fabianwindow&refpage=issues

  109. Free Speech = Leo H = perpetual trouble make in the patriot ranks.

    http://birthers.org/misc/lph.html

  110. bob strauss

    #

    Free Speech // July 18, 2010 at 8:11 pm

    bob strauss // July 18, 2010 at 7:43 pm

    So why would SCOTUS allow “Leo D” to ” represent the interests of the United States of America?”

    He would be a far sight better than our current Attorney General.
    ***************************************

    That is not the question.

    SCOTUS wouldn’t even grant Leo D a hearing on Leo D’s case against Ms Wells.

    Then Leo D called the Justices a bunch of “WUSSIES” on his blog.

    So the question is why would SCOTUS allow “Leo D” to ” represent the interests of the United States of America” after he failed to even get a hearing in Donofrio v. Wells, then insulted the Supreme Court Justices?
    ***************************************

    Time has elapsed, maybe the same 5 justices that just voted in favor of the 2nd amendment will vote again in favor of the Constitution and the natural born citizen clause,and declare Obama ineligible. He is ineligible you know?

  111. Free Speech

    Philo-Publius // July 18, 2010 at 7:58 pm

    Free Speech @ 7:10 pm
    What was the disagreement between Leo D & Mario all about?
    ****************************************

    Philo, thanks for posting this info about the Apuzzo/Leo D disagreement. I agree Apuzzo on this much

    “Leo Donofrio…maintains that quo warranto is an exclusive remedy available to remove Obama from office. He maintains that Obama may be removed from office only through a quo warranto action and that the DC District Court is the only court in the United States where such an action may be brought. I recently wrote an article about this issue, entitled The DC District Court Is Not the Only Court In Which to File a Quo Warranto Action. …

    Since Mr. Donofrio is proposing a quo warranto action, he must be planning a direct attack against Obama. Mr. Donofrio fails to recognize the many problems that exist with the quo warranto procedure that he advocates. Under the common law, only the United States can bring a quo warranto action. .. But the DC District Code presents a cumbersome procedure that has to be followed and which renders the very statute inapplicable to a quo warranto action against a sitting putative President such as Obama.”

  112. Free Speech

    bob strauss // July 18, 2010 at 8:18 pm

    #

    Free Speech // July 18, 2010 at 8:11 pm

    bob strauss // July 18, 2010 at 7:43 pm

    So why would SCOTUS allow “Leo D” to ” represent the interests of the United States of America?”

    He would be a far sight better than our current Attorney General.
    ***************************************

    That is not the question.

    SCOTUS wouldn’t even grant Leo D a hearing on Leo D’s case against Ms Wells.

    Then Leo D called the Justices a bunch of “WUSSIES” on his blog.

    So the question is why would SCOTUS allow “Leo D” to ” represent the interests of the United States of America” after he failed to even get a hearing in Donofrio v. Wells, then insulted the Supreme Court Justices?
    ***************************************

    Time has elapsed, maybe the same 5 justices that just voted in favor of the 2nd amendment will vote again in favor of the Constitution and the natural born citizen clause,and declare Obama ineligible. He is ineligible you know?
    **************************************

    I definitely believe that SCOTUS will rule bo ineligible but I doubt that they will allow “Leo D” to ” represent the interests of the United States of America” “Leo D” to ” represent the interests of the United States of America.”

  113. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    Free Speech // July 18, 2010 at 7:16 pm

    So why would SCOTUS allow “Leo D” to ” represent the interests of the United States of America?”

    ============================

    Perhaps because SCOTUS “scorns” Obama????

  114. RJ – 8:15 PM

    Thanks for the birther link.

  115. RJ – 8:15 PM

    Thanks for posting…..

  116. RJ@8:15PM

    Thanks for the link, RJ. This article first appeared last month, I believe.

    Thank you for having the tennis balls to post it.

  117. Bill Cutting

    “If I really said what I am thinking CW would ban me for life. We must be politically correct.”

    I was thinking the same thing. LOL

    I wonder how much we are paying First Family manservant Reggie?

  118. Free Speech

    Cabby – AZ // July 18, 2010 at 6:24 pm

    U misstate my position entirely with another straw man argument.

    I favor filing a Writ for Quo Warranto & a Writ of Mandamus as part of an Original Jurisdiction action before SCOTUS that should be obvious to anyone who has read my writings.

    United States Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia stated in the case of United States vs. Williams: “ the whole theory of its (the Grand Jury) function is that it belongs to no branch of the institutional Government, serving as a kind of buffer or referee between the Government and the people.”

    For information on forming a Secret Grand Jury to investigate crimes go here:

    http://grandjury.blogtownhall.com

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/06/how-to-start-and-lead-citizens-grand.html

    http://dewdropwarriors.blogspot.com/2009_03_01_archive.html

    For information on Crimes committed by the BHO campaign:

    https://citizenwells.wordpress.com/category/nashville
    **************************************

    boBots must very terribly afraid of True Patriots getting Grand Jury indictments of their messiah, bo.

  119. Free Speech

    Bill Cutting // July 18, 2010 at 8:58 pm

    “If I really said what I am thinking CW would ban me for life. We must be politically correct.”

    I was thinking the same thing. LOL

    I wonder how much we are paying First Family manservant Reggie?
    **************************************

    Worse yet is bo is using our government to destroy the Gulf Coast:

  120. Free Speech

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  121. Cabby – AZ // July 18, 2010 at 11:48 am

    If anyone hasn’t read jbjd’s most recent essay, you must. It is excellent; in fact, digesting it has absorbed much of my sub-conscious mind since I read it (and “conscious” also).

    jbjd said on the prior thread:

    “Doing nothing is not an option, when it comes to acting in the best interest of our country. Especially when you are an elected official, and you have sworn an oath to act.”

    http://jbjd.wordpress.com/2010/07/17/lying-then-or-lying-now/
    ************************************
    Thank you. I meant what I said.

  122. Free Speech

    BHO/BP spraying Corexit over populated areas:

  123. Free Speech

    A Good time to repost my February 2009 Call to Action For A Few Good Patriots:

    http://drorly.blogspot.com/2009/02/few-good-men-by-ea-leo.html

  124. jbjd

    Excellent article , A+

  125. I’d like to know in what universe being destroyed to make way for Berry Yawsbama, the Rhodesian puppet, is social justice. Let’s all hope they don’t allow FUBO to launch a race war before the November election. He is the most socially irresponsible, disrespectful of LEO’s and the military Precedent ever. I would have rather had Hillary’s fake ethnic accent (I come too far with them that brang me) or McCain’s inadvertent slips of a JFK “intervention,” or addressing his audience as “My Fellow Prisoners.”

    Please excuse me for suffering from the “malaise” cited by Zbigenew Brezinski. The ACORN race hustler in the WH is not to blame, it’s my fault for being pigmentally challenged which automatically makes me a racist who prefers law and order over paramilitary race activists with billy clubs at polling places and illegals trafficking drugs, child prostitutes and al Qaeda agents across the southern border. We need that tribal mentality in the WH to keep those of us that are pigmentally and intellectually challenged Anglophiles in line.

  126. Bill Cutting // July 18, 2010 at 8:58 pm

    “If I really said what I am thinking CW would ban me for life. We must be politically correct.”

    …………………………………………………………….

    The most I ever saw was CW saying on this point, (I’m going to paraphrase here, and I hope I’m correct) was him agreeing that criticising someone on the base of their ‘looks’ alone wasn’t any way to argue a point.

    Some people might regard that as ‘PC’. I regard it as plain good sense.

  127. Lillibet – 9:40 PM
    I would have rather had Hillary’s fake ethnic accent (I come too far with them that brang me) or McCain’s inadvertent slips of a JFK “intervention,” or addressing his audience as “My Fellow Prisoners.”
    **********************************
    It is understandable to see how you feel the way you do, but, believe me, Hillary Clinton, as you know, in the early 90’s was responsible for a far-sweeping national health care plan which was soundly repudiated. Also, she is thoroughly entrenched in Saul Alinsky teaching, as evidenced in the numerous biographies about her, and is a notorious liar, besides. She just has a little more “class”, shall we say? If she had been elected President, we would be on the same course as today, although she probably would have been a little more subtle about it all.
    She has identified herself as a “progressive”.

  128. Lillibet // July 18, 2010 at 9:40 pm

    I would have rather had Hillary’s fake ethnic accent (I come too far with them that brang me) or McCain’s inadvertent slips of a JFK “intervention,” or addressing his audience as “My Fellow Prisoners.”
    ********************************
    anybody except algore would have been preferrable to bo.

  129. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    Maria // July 18, 2010 at 9:47 pm

    Bill Cutting // July 18, 2010 at 8:58 pm

    “If I really said what I am thinking CW would ban me for life. We must be politically correct.”

    ============================

    If I may add just a little twist to this. Michelle Obama is the most b-tt ugly 1st lady there ever was. (And, yes, I used b-tt on purpose).

    I would not normally say my thoughts in this way. But when the media and the disciples talk her up as pretty, and fashionable, and put her on magazine covers, then I think THEY by their own actions have made this particular topic in-bounds and necessary.

    Just my 2¢ on PC. I don’t mind holding back, but I’ll be d-mned to let them rub it in my face!

  130. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    Free Speech // July 18, 2010 at 10:00 pm

    ============================

    You know, I was just thinking the same thing. I ‘hate’ HRC with a cold fire that will not go out – for many and varied reasons. But she is considerably better than Commander Zero in every way. Even her healthcare plan was lightyears better than Obama’s. Truly awful, yes, but still better. She would have never put us in this big of debt, she is not a Muslim and an Anti/Un-American, and she can make a coherent speech without a T/P.

  131. Lillibet // July 18, 2010 at 9:40 pm
    …to keep those of us that are pigmentally and intellectually challenged Anglophiles in line.

    ……………………………………………….
    Wow! As a Brit, I did wonder about your chosen name, it being the ‘pet’ name of Queen Elizabeth 2nd !

    You’re an *Anglophile?*

    Have you spent a lot of time in England?

  132. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO) // July 18, 2010 at 10:05 pm:

    You know, if Hillary Clinton were President, the slide downward would be just as great, but not as noticeable. It would be more subtle – more dangerous, too, because of the subtlety.

    In other words, it took a BHO to bring the Tea Partiers into existence. It took a BHO to awaken more people than Clinton would. We would still be like the frog in a pot of warm water being lulled toward our death, instead of the boiling water that BHO has created and alerted folks to the present danger. Does anyone think that Clinton is NOT for the New World Order?

    Look at what she is doing to influence the U.N. on the small arms treaty. Do you think she is a friend of Israel? No, we would not be better off with Hillary. We need to take the long view, imo.

  133. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO) // July 18, 2010 at 10:05 pm

    Free Speech // July 18, 2010 at 10:00 pm

    ============================

    You know, I was just thinking the same thing. I ‘hate’ HRC with a cold fire that will not go out – for many and varied reasons. But she is considerably better than Commander Zero in every way. Even her healthcare plan was lightyears better than Obama’s. Truly awful, yes, but still better. She would have never put us in this big of debt, she is not a Muslim and an Anti/Un-American, and she can make a coherent speech without a T/P.
    ***************************************

    My biggest objection to HC right now is that she supports bo on such issues as illegal immigration and Palistine.

  134. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    Cabby – AZ // July 18, 2010 at 8:49 pm

    RJ – 8:15 PM

    Thanks for the birther link.

    ARMY D.A.V. // July 18, 2010 at 8:53 pm

    RJ – 8:15 PM

    Thanks for posting…..

    SueK // July 18, 2010 at 8:58 pm

    RJ@8:15PM

    Thanks for the link, RJ. This article first appeared last month, I believe.

    Thank you for having the tennis balls to post it.

    =============================

    I think this article is a bit overboard on the hyperventilating. It is no secret that I perceive FS’s approach to be possibly one of many at best. But I think it is quite off the mark, and quite wrong, to call him an Obot or Demented – or inciting of violence.

    I believe he is angry, harassed, prickly, and FIXATED. All of which are either justified or personality quirks. None rise to the level of him being crazy or actually dangerous to us in any way.

    For those of you who have been following our arguments and discussion, I rarely if ever call him names. I use reason and asking leading questions. And I choose to exercise my right to agree or disagree.

    Even through all that, FS is my “cyber friend” and I respect him and honor him for all that he has suffered and all that he does. As I have mentioned before, I usually agree with him except especially on one topic.

    I don’t care how strongly one feels and I don’t care if people have ‘violent disagreements’. But calling people names or issuing gratuitous psychological evaluations is not particularly helpful or mature.

  135. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    Cabby – AZ // July 18, 2010 at 10:17 pm

    ===========================

    I can’t really disagree with that logic. But just to borrow a concept from one of my favorite long-ago writers and philosophers:

    I think I only mean to say that BHO and HRC live in different circles in hell.

  136. truthbetold11

    free speech,fubo,cabby, do u have jobs? because its like a alien abduction has taken u guys to posting so much it scares all the regulars. i guess its working. because many patriots stop posting here.

  137. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    Free Speech // July 18, 2010 at 10:24 pm

    ==========================

    YUP !

  138. Chairman Barrie Soetoro was installed over HRC for two reasons , Islamic connections , the race card.

    HRC would have been just as dangerous , just as delusional as any of the other sick evil corrupt puppets of the socialist party .

    Having a hard time finding Charlie , he’s the Atheist .

  139. Cabby – AZ // July 18, 2010 at 6:24 pm

    U merely discredit urself when U misstate my position with another straw man argument.

    I favor filing a Writ for Quo Warranto & a Writ of Mandamus as part of an Original Jurisdiction action before SCOTUS that should be obvious to anyone who has read my writings.

    United States Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia stated in the case of United States vs. Williams: “ the whole theory of its (the Grand Jury) function is that it belongs to no branch of the institutional Government, serving as a kind of buffer or referee between the Government and the people.”

    For information on forming a Secret Grand Jury to investigate crimes go here:

    http://grandjury.blogtownhall.com

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/06/how-to-start-and-lead-citizens-grand.html

    http://dewdropwarriors.blogspot.com/2009_03_01_archive.html

    For information on Crimes committed by the BHO campaign:

    https://citizenwells.wordpress.com/category/nashville
    **************************************

    boBots must very terribly afraid of True Patriots getting Grand Jury indictments of their messiah, bo.

  140. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    truthbetold11 // July 18, 2010 at 10:30 pm

    ==============================

    First of all, I am CC, not FUBO. BO is FUBO.

    Next – post away nobody is stopping you. So far the only people that admit to having gone away did so so that they could pursue bizarre stuff without having to be rational. They went to another blog they created so that they could feed off each other. It seems to me that we here and they there are both the happier for it.

    If you have something to say – say it. Just make sure you express it as an opinion or that you can defend “facts” rationally.

    In the end, I think a good working rule is: Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but not their own facts.

    As for jobs, it is Sunday. Other days I do as much as I can. Sharing information on how to defeat the WORST THREAT TO THE INTEGRITY OF AMERICA in 200 years, seems more important than working, eating, or sleeping.

  141. #

    ARMY D.A.V. // July 18, 2010 at 9:33 pm

    jbjd

    Excellent article , A+
    ***************************
    Thank you. (Hard for anyone to miss the point now, huh.) Please send this along to your Representatives. Better yet, stop by his or her district office; and bring your friends. And the press. (Make sure you know enough about the issues that you can refute the inane responses your direct confrontation is sure to revoke. And report back…)

  142. U have to be suspicious of the boBots who only come here to attack true Patriots. As far as my bona fides are concerned you can find them on several real Patriot Blogs like:

    http://standupamericaus.com/our-privilege-our-right-and-our-duty-civilian-grand-jury:33320

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2010/06/patriots-choice.html

    http://drorly.blogspot.com/2009/02/few-good-men-by-ea-leo.html

  143. Bill Cutting

    More Chrysler Bankruptcy News

    Obama hasty decision costs thousands of jobs.

    http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hJnwMBE7xMJZVNt_R997OWO3fIVQD9H1O0JG3

  144. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    Just thanked the dude for his post my friend , didn’t say anything about agreeing with it.

    Sorry if I acted immature but I’m only 64 years old , cut me some slack, buddy.

  145. truthbetold11 // July 18, 2010 at 10:30 pm

    free speech,fubo,cabby, do u have jobs? because its like a alien abduction has taken u guys to posting so much it scares all the regulars. i guess its working. because many patriots stop posting here.
    ***********************************
    Personally I am semi-retired and only learned to use the computer a few months ago. (A very senior citizen) You have every right to jump in at any time to post here, so why don’t you do it?

    Most of us are friendly folks and nobody has run anyone else away. Those that have left decided to go elsewhere, as has already been pointed out. Many times there are very serious discussions going on here at CW, and that is what makes this site more attractive than some of the others.

  146. Anyone here watching the BP live cam ?

  147. Boa deep C -ROV 2 , looks like trouble , camera keeps going off and on , let me know what you think.

  148. I too want to thank JBJD for an excellent article.

    http://jbjd.wordpress.com/2010/07/17/lying-then-or-lying-now/

  149. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO) // July 18, 2010 at 10:41 pm

    Carlyle,

    You are incorrect in your statement as to why people left this blog.

    Yes, a certain element wished to discuss RAP, and that’s their choice; I am not one of them. Other former posters can now be found at FreeRepublic, OilforImmigration, TRSoL, the T-Room, and many others too numerous to mention.

    There is only one reason why people have left in droves….

    BTW, it is not necessary to call everyone out who was appreciative of the link RJ posted. It was an interesting read; only the reader is the determining factor as to whether or not it has merit. I can tell you that link is posted on other sites.

    Make your own determination and have a pleasant evening.

  150. #

    Crystal // July 18, 2010 at 11:45 pm

    I too want to thank JBJD for an excellent article.

    http://jbjd.wordpress.com/2010/07/17/lying-then-or-lying-now/
    ***********************************
    Thank you. Have you accessed the links in the article? That is, are you aware of the collusion between radio talk show host Bill Press and WH Press Secretary Robert Gibbs to perpetuate the myth, the COLB on FTS is anything but a PAID POLITICAL ADVERTISEMENT? Have you read any one of the citizens’ complaints of election fraud to their state AG, alleging Nancy Pelosi swore BO was Constitutionally qualified just to get them to print his name on the ballot, before ascertaining he was a NBC? Have you read the article on WH Counsel Bob Bauer’s slight of hand in federal court, in the Hollister case brought by Phil Berg, where Mr. Bauer tried to trick the court into finding, the COLB was real (and not just an electronic image available only with the aid of a computer screen)?

    I found the finished article powerful, too. And I am just like you, I read it as if I am seeing it for the first time. Because while I am putting it together, from counting lawyers in the freshman class of the 111th Congress to finding videos of Mr. Kucinich’s Resolutions of Impeachment, I am too busy to see the whole product. But this time, I really packed a punch. Because any legislator reading this AND accessing the links provided, would finally see quite clearly why we are so angry, still, after the fraud perpetrated during the 2008 election cycle.

    And, after all, this was the point.

  151. Only the best for our elected representatives, and their staff.

    If I really said what I am thinking CW would ban me for life. We must be politically correct
    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    I don’t care what anyone does under the sheets…just not on taxpayer’s dime!!

  152. jbjd…..this is great. I need to absorb and re-read this article several times and the excellent comments, plus check the posted links. Wow!

  153. Obots come here to attack CW & the true Patriots who post here because bo & his co-conspirators are terrified that the truth about their crimes is being posted here.

    https://citizenwells.wordpress.com/category/nashville/

    Some of the obots are paid by the bo regime. Others are confidential informants who do bo’s bidding as part of a plea bargain to keep from being prosecuted by bo’s dept of injustice.

    Some obots simply post useless seemingly “scholarly” information. Others launch into diatribes against the Patriots that pose the greatest threat to the bo regime.

    Regardless of their tactics the sole purpose of the obots is to disrupt the discussion of any information damaging to the bo regime.

    http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/01/26/outing-obamas-internet-brownshirts/

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/05/exposing-obamas-psyops-agents-and.html

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2010/02/winning-against-obots-and-astroturfers.html

  154. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    Dear ones – – –

    Please pardon the method I chose to begin and cross-reference my post. It had an effect I did not intend. I see now in hindsight that what I wrote was confusing.

    My main urgency was to provide an opinion on the article itself. In the sense that I was calling anyone out, it was the author of the article. I didn’t even mean to call out the original poster of the article, although perhaps they deserved it a little.

    And, regardless of why some people say they left this blog, I still stand by my assertion that we are happier here and they are happier there. Sounds like a win/win to me!?

  155. I am not a lawyer, but in the comments section of Leo Donofrio’s blog the subject was raised, whether or not the Chrysler case could lead to a quo warranto, based upon the POTUS is the executor of the law, and Obama has no legal right to take their businesses away because he was never a legal POTUS, because Obama is ineligible to hold the office of president, therefore the law can not be enforced
    !!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Bob, Bob, Bob, didn’t they get the memo??
    The Chrysler dealers, all Republican, non-fraud supporters, don’t have………….STANDING!!

    After all, they only lost their livelihood along with thousands others.

  156. #

    hapnHal // July 19, 2010 at 12:52 am

    jbjd…..this is great. I need to absorb and re-read this article several times and the excellent comments, plus check the posted links. Wow!
    *******************************************
    Thank you both for appreciating the work and for committing to understanding the large volume of information in this article. If you have any questions, ask on the blog. And when you think you ‘get’ it, hit the road with it. (This means, get it to your Representative.)

  157. Free Speech

    When I scan articles, I ask myself 2 questions:

    1. Does it provide information that can be used to legally remove bo.

    2. Does it provide instructions on what steps can be taken to legally remove bo.

    Articles that do nothing more than bellyache about spilt milk or relating a crime totally unrelated to bo are useless IMHO.

  158. Free Speech

    Articles that do nothing more than bellyache about spilt milk or relate a crime totally unrelated to bo are useless IMHO.

    Furthermore, such articles divert attention from useful info.

  159. Articles that do nothing more than bellyache about spilt milk or relating a crime totally unrelated to bo are useless IMHO
    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    They do seem to be tedious and repetitive, huh??

  160. State Department warns employees about new website highlighting Top Secret facilities

    Notification of Major Media Outlet Story On Monday July 19, the Washington Post plans to publish a website listing all agencies and contractors believed to conduct Top Secret work on behalf of the U.S. Government. The website provides a graphic representation pinpointing the location of firms conducting Top Secret work, describing the type of work they perform, and identifying many facilities where such work is done.

    http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2010/07/16/state_department_warns_employees_about_new_website_highlighting_top_secret_faciliti

  161. Free Speech

    DABIG // July 19, 2010 at 1:51 am

    Sounds like traitors in bo regime are about to be outed.

  162. #

    JJ // July 19, 2010 at 1:50 am

    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    They do seem to be tedious and repetitive, huh??
    ****************
    JJ
    “Tedious and repetitive”

    Couldn’t have said that better, I skip that persons comments.

  163. http://www.t-room.us/2010/07/alex-jones-censorship-alert-obama-deception-illegally-removed-from-youtube/

    Censorship Alert: Obama Deception ILLEGALLY removed from YouTube

    Who’s next?? What’s next??

  164. TO: MY FELLOW AMERICANS,

    & jbjd // July 19, 2010 at 1:15 am

    HERE IS A MUST READ GREAT INTERVIEW & ARTICLE FOR EVERYONE

    Reprinted By Permission From The Post & Email, Inc.

    By Sharon Rondeau
    The Post & Email, Inc.

    July 18, 2010

    http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/07/18/u-s-senate-hopeful-hector-maldonado-if-obama-ineligible-he-has-committed-high-crimes-and-possibly-treason/#comments

    “U.S. SENATE HOPEFUL HECTOR
    MALDONADO: IF OBAMA INELIGIBILE, HE HAS COMMITTED
    “HIGH CRIMES AND POSSIBLY TREASON – “I WILL ASK THE TOUGH QUESTIONS”

    By Sharon Rondeau

    “Hector Maldonado is running for U.S. Senate in Missouri, and his motto is “Show Me Freedom.”

    (Jul. 18, 2010)

    Excerpt:

    “MRS. RONDEAU: It’s very interesting that you circled back to that, because I wanted to ask you another question about Obama. If it’s found that he did not meet the definition of “natural born Citizen,” how would that affect everything that he has signed and done up until that time?

    MR. MALDONADO: There are a lot of ramifications. First of all, if he does open his records and it is found that he is not a “natural born Citizen” in accordance with the Constitution, it means he committed high crimes and possibly treason, which is punishable under the Constitution. The “proof” that Obama has shown is a Certification of Live Birth. Anyone can get a Certification of Live Birth. The question is, where is the actual long form which would show all of the rest of the information such as that which John McCain submitted? McCain was born in Panama, and when he ran for president the first time, it was the Democrats who demanded this. Now we’re just demanding the same thing that they did.

    If Obama is found not to be qualified as a natural born Citizen, here are the ramifications: Nancy Pelosi and Joe Biden’s names are on the certification letter, of which I have a copy, the state Democrat party letter of certification and the national DNC certification letter which does not have actual proof attached. It’s just one letter from his own party which states that he meets the qualifications. I also have the long-form birth certificate from John McCain which is attached to the letter of certification he received from John Boehner that was submitted, so that qualified as documentation.

    The Certification of Live Birth lacks a lot of the information that the president is supposed to turn in. If he is found to be in violation and unqualified for the office, everything he has done is null and void. It would reverse every executive order, every appointment, every treaty, anything that he has done in the last year and a half. Further and beyond that, immediate removal would be warranted. He would have violated Article 4 of the Constitution, which states that if you previously swore an oath to support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic, which he did; he was a U.S. Senator and he took that oath. Amendment 14 also says that if you knowingly cause an insurrection or rebelled against the Constitution, you are not qualified to hold the office which you seek, which is where he is now. This is all unconstitutional, which means he’s not qualified for the office and calls for immediate removal. There should be no impeachment proceedings; it should be automatic; the Supreme Court should enforce that.

    As the certifying official, unless Nancy Pelosi can produce the long-form birth certificate that shows that he was born in Hawaii and other documentation, as John McCain produced, then she is also guilty of covering up. Whether she knew it or not or whether she just accepted it, I will hold her accountable for duping the American public and not doing her due diligence and looking and asking him for the long-form birth certificate. This would also mean that Joe Biden is unqualified to take over and Nancy Pelosi, being third in line, would not be qualified. So there would have to be a new election because Obama chose Hillary Clinton for Secretary of State, and that would also be a null and void appointment.

    So we’d have to have an immediate special election for president and a whole new administration. The ramifications are huge. This is bigger than any issue that America has ever faced.”

    THE MUST READ FULL INTERVIEW ARTICLE CONTINUES HERE:

    http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/07/18/u-s-senate-hopeful-hector-maldonado-if-obama-ineligible-he-has-committed-high-crimes-and-possibly-treason/#comments

    # # # #

    jbjd,

    Mr.. Maldonado has always & will continue to provide clear access to anyone to see the two letters that were mailed to him that requested to see proof of his citizenship and/or birth certificate and eligibility to run for office.

    jbjd, please read the Interview & Article
    in full at the link above. Mr. Maldonado appears to be answering your questions in one of your articles that you wrote.

    Mr. Maldonado has always been willing to publicly show the two letters he received publicly and he continues to do so to anyone. jbjd, in one of your articles on your blog, you were asking why should we believe he received any letters from anyone, and where is the proof of this?
    In the above interview, Mr. Maldonado answers your questions, jbjd.

    Mr. Maldonado said he has brought foward publicly & he will continue to bring forward publicly to all Americans the two letters that were mailed to him as evidence that what he is saying are the facts & the truth.

  165. Starla // July 19, 2010 at 2:37 am

    TO: MY FELLOW AMERICANS,

    & jbjd // July 19, 2010 at 1:15 am
    **********************************************
    Starla, as you already know, the article I posted on my blog on July 11 questioning the consistency of Mr. Maldonado’s public statements on the subject was the impetus for Ms. Rondeau’s follow-up interview of the primary candidate. One of my readers provided me with this P&E article several hours ago, and my response has been posted on the blog for some time. http://jbjd.wordpress.com/2010/07/11/sleight-of-hand-in-show-me-state/

  166. Maggie, this one is for you.

    Lieutenant Colonel Terry Lakin discusses the denial of access to key witnesses.

  167. Sorry! Maggie should be Margie.

  168. Here’s an interesting article about BS/BO’s trip to Russia as a senator…..

    New START and Obama’s Mysterious Trip to Russia by Cliff Kincaid….

    http://www.worldviewweekend.com/worldview-times/article.php?articleid=6291

  169. Free Speech

    tennbrock // July 19, 2010 at 6:01 am

    Thanks. bo won’t be only one tried for treason.

  170. Cabby AZ @ 9:54 p.m., Free Speech @ 10:00 p.m., and Maria @ 10:08 p.m.:

    Perhaps, you have already read the paper at the link below. If not, it would be worth your time to do so. G. Edward Griffin seems to explain everything, assembling the various puzzle pieces into a cohesive picture of what we see occuring on the world’s stage. Michelle linked to one of Griffin’s videos earlier in the week and I’ve spent a fair amount of time investigating his claims this week. I should mention that I found an excellent link on Sunday which mysteriously disappeared from my cache later in the day when I restarted my computer and my computer was ‘hiccuping’ from error messages.

    Click to access futurecalling2.pdf

    As for my choice of moniker, I maintain it was purely coincidental. Yes, that is what I maintain. And, Maria, as for my having visited England, I have missed that pleasure several times when circumstances caused me to change my plans. However, I carry England in my blood as do many of my fellow Americans, and, of course, our beloved Founding Fathers. Whether the English component of my blood is thicker or thinner is a matter of genealogical dispute and national loyalty. Since, I was born on this continent in the greatest nation to ever issue from the most brilliant minds in England and her colonies, I cherish the great gifts bestowed upon the world by the English legal system, the English university system, English industry, English government and English culture. England’s contribution to America is no more than America’s contribution of her English heritage to the world which was the cherished goal of Cecil Rhodes and the Rhodes Trust.

    My apologies for the long-winded explanation, but this leads me to state that I abhor the Muslim incursion underway in Britain and America. If Cecil Rhodes’ vision was the preservation and extension of Anglophilic government, education, science, and culture, why are we indulging barbarians and their cult trojan horse religion? It seems that the use of the Islamists to disrupt Russian aspirations in the ME and Afghanistan by Z-biginew, et al., is now being done to America by her President, Congress and thinktanks.

    The Fabian Society’s choice of an Omar Khayyam verse is important because according to Edward Fitzgerald’s study of Khayyam, the poet/astronomer was skeptical of organized religion, specifically the M-religion. If you read Khayyam’s Rubaiyat many verses deal with the futility of man’s plans, his impending mortality, and the indifference of the presumed Creator to intercede upon his behalf in this life.

    In the very old translation that I own, a Pocket Classic by the David McKay Company of Philadelphia, on page 71 it states that, “Von Hammer (according to Sprenger’s Oriental Catalogue) speaks of Omar as “a free thinker, and a great opponent of Sufism; ” perhaps because, while holding much of their Doctrine, he would not pretend to any inconsistent severity of morals. Sir W. Ouseley has written a note to something of the same effect on the fly-leaf of the Bodleian MS. And in two Rubaiyat of Mons. Nicholas’s own edition Suf and Sufi are both disparagingly named.”

    To conclude, why the Fabians would choose Omar Khayyam, the former tentmaker, poet and astronomer, as the author of their philosophical identity would seem to point to his abstinence of Islamic zealotry. The Fabian stained glass window, btw, is now housed in the London School of Economics after it disappeared, was stolen and recovered. John Maynard Keynes and George Soros are LSE alumnuses, iinm.

  171. Hi Lilibet.

    Your explanation was gratifying, if unexpected 🙂

    You said “To conclude, why the Fabians would choose Omar Khayyam, the former tentmaker, poet and astronomer, as the author of their philosophical identity would seem to point to his abstinence of Islamic zealotry”.

    You have obviously studied this matter more than I, but as there was little concern about Islamic zealotary at the time in England, to me it points to a fascination (at that time), with all things ‘oriental’, and perhaps to the atheism of Sidney Webb, but I stress, it’s not something I have studied, that is just off the top of my head.

  172. Khayyam…agnostic, Epicurean:

    http://www.victorianweb.org/authors/fitzgerald/rubaiyat.html

    The Iranians don’t like to acknowledge Khayyam, need I say more?

  173. “U.S. SENATE HOPEFUL HECTOR
    MALDONADO: IF OBAMA INELIGIBILE, HE HAS COMMITTED
    “HIGH CRIMES AND POSSIBLY TREASON – “I WILL ASK THE TOUGH QUESTIONS”

    We are in deep “doo-doo” here and the consequences of kicking this asshole back to where he came from far outweigh the disasters he has and is causing.
    I can’t even imagine a patriot EVER needing to debate these issues.
    Yep, it’s the Constitution stupid!!
    So, once again…………
    http://www.newswithviews.com/Vieira/edwin84.htm
    OBAMA MUST STAND UP NOW OR STEP DOWN by Dr. Edwin Vieira

  174. Will the Western media show these images?

    Please see the photos and videos at this site: GAZA

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2010/07/will-western-media-show-these-images.html

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