Glenn Beck, Obama college records, Obama eligibility, Citizen Wells challenge to Glenn Beck, Obama student loans, Obama lies and deception, Obama attorneys, Percy Sutton, Khalid Al-Mansour, Saudis, O’Reilly, Orwellian lies

It is important for people like Glenn Beck, who have an enormous responsibility and large following to be careful what they say. “Loose lips sink ships.” It is also important to use caution when you “Hitch your wagon to a star.” Beck apparently has hitched his wagon to the blowhard O’Reilly.

Glenn Beck continues to insult concerned Americans, many of whom are military or retired military. Beck either speaks out of ignorance, influence of O’Reilly or pressure from Fox via the Saudis. I wonder if Glenn Beck has the guts to confront someone like me who is not bought by any entity and is well armed with facts.

The Obama camp and Orwellian left have tried to paint Obama’s eligibility issues as a monolitihic conspiracy theory espoused by right wing idiots and for some reason Glenn Beck has signed on. The truth (you know facts, Beck) is that Obama’s eligibility crisis is a puzzle piece in a much larger puzzle. That is one of the reasons that this blog has presented a question that a fifth grader could pose and answer.
Why has Obama employed a legion of private and government attorneys to avoid presenting a legitimate birth certificate and college records?

Why have we done this? The answer is simple. It is obvious why Obama has done this. Also, the issue of college records is simple. There are no confusing constitutional issues (they are only confusing for those with an un American agenda and those who do not care) and no grey areas for debate. There are other issues about Obama’s past that are suspicious such as his lies/ommissions on his IL bar application and his suspect Selective Service Application. But let’s keep this simple for the far left and Glenn Beck.

Obama’s extensive campaign to keep his college records sealed is a book unto itself. This blog will be revisiting the myriad components of this conundrum. The following will reveal why it is crucial for those who truly care about this country to question everthing and not take something spoken or written as gospel.

Newsmax, on the whole, has done a decent job of covering Obama. In the following article, these suspicious components of Obama’s college education are presented:
Obama allegedly obtained student loans for Harvard.

Percy Sutton stated that Khalid Al-Mansour was “raising money” for Obama.

Percy Sutton stated that Khalid Al-Mansour was trying to help Obama get into Harvard Law School.

Percy Sutton stated that Khalid Al-Mansour was an advisor to Saudi prince Alwaleed bin Talal. reported “a spokesman for Sutton’s family, Kevin Wardally” stated that Sutton was mistaken.

Sutton’s family denied Wardally’s claims to

“Al Mansour said that he was determined to keep a low profile to avoid embarrassing Obama.”

Obama has refused to release Harvard Law School records.

Obama came up with more than $32,000 over three years from sources other than loans.

In April 2008, Michelle Obama, “just paid off his loan debt” for his Harvard Law School education.

Chicago Sun, Obama borrowed $42,753 for Harvard Law School, “tens of thousands” more for Columbia.

NewsMax found no trace of any outstanding college loans, going back to 2000.

US Senate candidates are required to file a financial disclosure form detailing liabilities.

Obama listed “zero” under liabilities in 2004 and in all subsequent US Senate financial disclosure forms.

Senate ethics rules require disclosure of any loan, including credit card debt, of $10,000 or more.

Apparently, Michelle Obama misspoke, per the Obama campaign.

Campaign spokesman Ben LaBolt,  Harvard Law School loans “were repaid in full” during senate campaign.

Campaign spokesman Ben LaBolt, “the modest outstanding balance he repaid was not reportable as a liability”

Obama didn’t report income from the book until 2005, how was he able to repay his student loans in 2004.

Obama released seven years of tax returns on March 25 of 2008.

The returns, dating back to 2000, indicate no interest on their student loans. The interest was deductible.

2000 through 2004, student loan interest is a deduction on line 24 form 1040. After 2004, Line 33.

Obamas never declared a dime of interest in student loans on their return.

“most likely because they simply earned too much money to be able to take the deduction under the IRS rules.”

This article from NewsMax, September 23, 2008, covers a lot of ground and stands on it’s own merits. The facts contained in this article alone, would have shut down the campaign of any other presidential candidate in pre Orwellian America. But there is at least one more observation to be made. From the last comment above.
“most likely because they simply earned too much money to be able to take the deduction under the IRS rules.”
Oh really.
From the LA Times, April 27, 2008.

“In his book “The Audacity of Hope,” Obama tells how his finances had deteriorated to such a point that his credit card was initially rejected when he tried to rent a car at the 2000 Democratic convention in Los Angeles. He said he had originally planned to dedicate that summer “to catching up on work at the law practice that I’d left unattended during the campaign (a neglect that had left me more or less broke).”

Read more:,0,6789688.story

So, Glenn Beck, et al, the eligibility issues really are vastly more fact based and far reaching than you have portrayed. The simple question for you and the world is, why has Obama gone to such expense in money and resources to keep his college records hidden. I believe even a third grader could answer this one.
Glenn Beck, are you smarter that a third grader?


150 responses to “Glenn Beck, Obama college records, Obama eligibility, Citizen Wells challenge to Glenn Beck, Obama student loans, Obama lies and deception, Obama attorneys, Percy Sutton, Khalid Al-Mansour, Saudis, O’Reilly, Orwellian lies

  1. I really do not know if there’s anything to this birth certificate thing, but I feel fairly confident that Beck has looked at the evidence and decided he believes Obama on the matter. He might be wrong, but I don’t think Beck has knowingly joined some conspiracy.

  2. Actually, Obama’s whole life seems to be nothing but a work of fiction.

    If you’d like to see something from a different point of view, watch the two short videos below which, even though they start slowly, contain a wealth of factual data – more than we’ve seen from Obama.

    In fact in the second video a famous senator is quoted speaking about someone that sounds for all the world like “Our Boy” and really strikes a chord.

    Only thing is the senator was the Roman named Cicero speaking in 42 BC – but the message is still very directed and pertinent for all of us: Three Little Words Merry Christmas OmeriKa!!

  3. A Chronology of Forgery & Deceit by Obama and His Supporters:

    M Publius Goat

  4. CW…..Great post…..I wonder what it would take to start up our own cable tv station… would think their might be one wealthy Patriot out there who can do this and really expose the eligibility issue!!

  5. So Jeremy.
    Why is Beck not keeping his mouth shut and at least asking
    the basic journalistic question that Dobbs asked?
    Why doesn’t Obama present a legitimate birth certificate?
    I add,
    Why doesn’t Obama present his college records?

  6. Patriot Dreamer

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  7. Obama adviser: Amnesty to ensure ‘progressive’ rule
    “Granting citizenship to millions of illegal immigrants would expand the “progressive” electorate and help ensure a “progressive” governing coalition for the long term, declared a recent adviser to President Obama whose union group is among the most frequent visitors to the White House.

    “We reform the immigration laws, it puts 12 million people on the path to citizenship and eventually voters,” stated Eliseo Medina, international executive vice-president of Service Employees International Union, or SEIU.”

    Obama tells Democratic lawmakers they have to ‘finish the job’ and enact health care overhaul.

  8. Patriot Dreamer

    “Rangel: Lawmakers writing compromise health bill”

  9. Jeremy Sarber // February 3, 2010 at 11:43 am

    I really do not know if there’s anything to this birth certificate thing, but I feel fairly confident that Beck has looked at the evidence and decided he believes Obama on the matter. He might be wrong, but I don’t think Beck has knowingly joined some conspiracy.


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  10. CW: Great Post!

    “Glenn Beck continues to insult concerned Americans, many of whom are military or retired military.”

    I think that is because he has to “play the heavy” at times.

    “Beck either speaks out of ignorance, influence of O’Reilly or pressure from Fox via the Saudis.”

    All of the above!

    “I wonder if Glenn Beck has the guts to confront someone like me who is not bought by any entity and is well armed with facts.”

    I doubt it…you would petrify, pulverize, and punt him in hysteria! Wouldn’t be pretty seeing a grown man cry…lol

    He may be asking us all to do what it is he cannot do himself or he may just be playing ping-pong with the electorate IMHO.

    Great summary…one of your BEST!


  11. Patriot Dreamer // February 3, 2010 at 12:03 pm

    “Rangel: Lawmakers writing compromise health bill”


    PD……These people continue to live in LA-LA-LAND!!!


    John 10:1-2, 10
    I tell you the truth, the man [USURPER] who does not enter the sheep pen [OFFICE OF PRESIDENT] by the gate [ARTICLE II, SECTION 1, CLAUSE 5 OF THE CONSTITUTION – BORN IN THE COUNTRY, OF PARENTS WHO ARE CITIZENS], but climbs in by some other way [FRAUD], is a thief and a robber. The man who enters by the gate [ARTICLE II, SECTION 1, CLAUSE 5 OF THE CONSTITUTION – BORN IN THE COUNTRY, OF PARENTS WHO ARE CITIZENS] is the shepherd of his sheep [WE THE PEOPLE]. The thief [USURPER] comes only to steal and kill and destroy [THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES, AND WE THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES]…

    Matthew 7:15
    Watch out for false prophets [USURPERS & THOSE WHO SUPPORT USURPERS]. They come to you in sheep’s clothing [ORGANIZING FOR AMERICA], but inwardly they are ferocious wolves [WHO COME ONLY TO STEAL AND KILL AND DESTROY].

  13. Benaiah // February 3, 2010 at 12:19 pm

    Thank you for your tenacity!

    Happy Day and God Bless You…Linda

  14. Hi, all!

    Blessings on your day.

    Searching for the most recent poll info about all the 2010 election races, I had been unable to find any CA polls later than Jan. 20th or so.

    However, my more focused searches did turn up this interesting tidbit: more facts for the eligibility fray.

    “1/26/2010 #2325: Nearly three in ten California voters identify strongly or some-what with the tea party movement. One in three voters also not convinced that Obama was born in U.S. ”

    One in three!!!!!! That stat indicates significant traction for the issue amongst the citizens, imo.

    AND, the polling co. thought the question important enough to add to a poll. Interesting . . .

    posted at:

    “The latest poll also included a question probing whether Californians believed President Barack Obama was born in the U.S. Statewide while two in three (67%) think that he was, 33% are not convinced, with 11% maintaining that he was not and 22% not sure.
    These are the findings from the latest Field Poll conducted among a statewide sample of 1,232 registered voters in six languages – English, Spanish, Cantonese, Mandarin, Korean and Vietnamese.”
    “Transgression speaks to the wicked deep in his heart; there is no fear of God before his eyes. For he flatters himself in his own eyes that his iniquity cannot be found out and hated. … Thy steadfast love, O Lord, extends to the heavens, thy faithfulness to the clouds.” from Psalms 36


  16. Notice how the james okeefe affair fits into all of this.

    They destroy the guy for doing nothing more than sneekily trying to get the goods on someone. Destroy him, and maybe others won’t try such things.

    If you’re thinking right about now that i’m exagerating and that okeefe went too far, remember all the times that leftist lackeys have tried to run stings, printed top secret documents on the front page of newspapers etc, all to “get” a conservative.

    They’re trying to send a warning to us to stop the investigatin.


  17. Obama adviser: Amnesty [TREASON] to ensure ‘progressive’ [COMMUNIST/MARXIST] rule
    ‘Imagine 8 million new voters who care about our issues?’

  18. TO:
    Jacqlyn Smith // February 3, 2010 at 11:50 am

    CW…..Great post…..I wonder what it would take to start up our own cable tv station… would think their might be one wealthy Patriot out there who can do this and really expose the eligibility issue!!
    \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ //////////////


    It doens’t need to be cable TV all we need is an Online Tv Channel there are some things started but like not good enough. This is cheap enough to do with VShare, JustinTV or any of the others video share channel sites.

    I have been asking Rush, Newsmax, Lou Dobbs, etc to get this done maybe someday SOON.

    This would be a big blow to the news networks EVEN FOX.

    We could get news online 24/7 with our own Conservative News Network

    If I was President by Chuck Baldwin
    Please read and pass on!It’s a must read!!

  20. Portuguese Revolutionary War Hero – Peter Francisco // February 3, 2010 at 12:57 pm

    I think John Charlton of TP &E, and Phil at TRSOL, and CW could team up and launch an online news network…

  21. Jacqlyn Smith // February 3, 2010 at 11:50 am

    CW…..Great post…..I wonder what it would take to start up our own cable tv station… would think their might be one wealthy Patriot out there who can do this and really expose the eligibility issue!!
    Also, CW, with a subscription fee, it could eventually support itself!!!

    I have $65 monthly saved from discontinued cable fees I’d just love to use for a conservative station.

  22. don in california

    Justme, I have only had time to watch two of the video’s that you asked me to watch. They are very interesting and have caused me to really consider my thoughts about bush and his admin. As for the two CIA;s, yes that is very possible. One obeys the President, the other actually does their job to protect the U.S. That is my thoughts so far.


  23. CW………………………………………………………
    What about the student loans that Soetoro allegedly received as a FOREIGN STUDENT at Occidental. I personally beleive that he may have LIED about his past to gain entrance to Occidental. There is a problem with the timeline relating to the name that he used on his alleged draft registration, and the name he used at Occidental which would have had to be Soetoro. When you look at this one of the two was a lie.

  24. don in california

    Has obama ever changed his name legally and if so from what to what. Just what IS his legal name. If he signs laws with a non-legal name, are the laws legal??

  25. The White House recently announced its pricey Childhood Obesity Initiative to tell us what we should feed our kids. Helpful I’m sure – but most Americans would rather see government focus on other important areas right now. We know what our kids should eat: more healthy food, less junk food. There – we just saved Washington a ton of money by announcing that finding on personal responsibility. —Sarah Palin

  26. Just brainstorming here: The OLIVE Network

    OLIVE – Online Live Internet Video Essays

    The OLIVE Network – Objective investigative journalism presented through Online Live Internet Video Essays written and produced by old school journalists who simply ask the right questions…

    The OLIVE Network, hosted by Citizen Wells…

    The OLIVE Network proudly presents Glenn Beck, formerly with FAUX News Network…

    “The OLIVE Network is ON…”

  27. Benaiah.
    I guess satellite locations would be “OLIVE branches”

  28. oldsalt78.
    Lots of lies.

  29. Is this why PAPA BEAR BUSH visited the WH??? I’d kick his azz if he treated my son like that…….but, we are dealing with trash from Chicago…….scratch that …from who knows where>>>>>

    As you may know, after the Fort Hood attack, former President George W. Bush
    and his wife, Laura showed up unannounced to visit the injured soldiers at
    the hospital. This was confirmed by Link to: http://www.snopes

    However, as you can read below, there’s allegedly more to the story.

    I sent my cousin in Fayetteville , N.C. (retired from Special Forces) that
    picture of George W. visiting the wounded at Ft. Hood … I got this reply:

    What is even better is the fact George W. Bush heard about Fort Hood , got
    in his car without any escort, apparently they did not have time to react,
    and drove to Fort Hood . He was stopped at the gate and the guard could not
    believe who he had just stopped. Bush only asked for directions to the
    hospital, then drove on. The gate guard called that “The president is on ‘
    Fort Hood and driving to the hospital.” The base went bananas looking for
    Obama. When they found it was Bush they immediately offered escort and Bush
    simply told them to be quiet and let him visit the wounded and the
    dependents of the dead. He stayed at Fort Hood for over six hours and was
    finally asked to leave by a message from the White House. Obama flew in a
    few days later and held a “photo ” session in a gym and did not even go to
    the hospital. All this I picked up from two soldiers here who happened to
    be at Fort Hood when it happened.


    Dion Thomas DeNault
    Psychology AA

  30. citizenwells // February 3, 2010 at 2:01 pm

    I like it…

    We could have a weekly contest to expose those politicians who put themselves before “We the people”… They would would be known as “OLIVE pits”.

  31. don in california

    Philo-Publius // February 3, 2010 at 2:04 pm
    That is from a San Francisco newspaper and the comments reflect a dissatisfaction with the Dems. Unbelievable!!

  32. I have mentioned this twice and been ignore- still, here it is.
    On the COLB the name of child is BHO II. All “how to name your child” sites provide the rule: “II” is used to name a child after the GRANDFATHER, UNCLE, or OTHER RELATIVE. JR. is used when the son takes the father’s exact name.
    1. SAD was stupid.
    2. Sr. is not his father but a poor sap someone used.
    3. Rules for naming a child differ in Kenyan culture.

    If #2 is correct- O could HAVE BEEN a NBC (still lost if adopted). We would not have a clue who his father is (while he looks like Malcom x). His statements on Fight the Smears could be a set up (do you put this past him?) My belief is this: Barky is born Steve Dunham. SAD marries O SR. and Steve goes by Barry. A crack head commi college age Barry finds his BC, wants to get in touch with his African roots, starts using th name BHO- knowing this is not his real father and being an “elite type” he uses the term, “II.”

  33. DoninCalifornia………………………………………
    Over a period of many months I searched ALL databases that contained public records which a name change Petition is one of. The period of time(interim) that I used was from 1969 to 1980. Each database that is computerised responds in a matter of seconds. I searched no less that 118 such entities. There was no record of such a name change having beenPetitioned anywhere in the US.. This includes Hawaii. I strongly believe, and otherwise support the idea that the name Obama was NEVER LEGALLY restored to him. However if it is executed, and whoever executes it a Court Petition for Name change is required in most states. Including Hawaii. I believe that the veracity of my search was fair, since these records are PUBLIC information. Many states require the posting of a name change in a public media for a designated period on the “legals”page of the particular publications.
    The next vein of my search was to isolate all newspapers that were being published between 1969- and 1980. then I was going to look for the posting of the name change. I am sure that it would be there. It is only whether it can be found. As is the case pertaining to the POE records, whoever finds this record will be holding a document having a potential six figure intrinsic value.

  34. Don………………….

    It was my intention to start with the latest dates and work backwards. Also It was my intention to start with the Chicago Tribune., and expand from there.

  35. Great post, CW!!! IMO Beck has become O’Reilly light. Both’s heads have swelled to the point of non-function. Beck is a coward and a hypocrite. His apparent lack of actual knowledge about the eligibility subject requires that at-best he should keep quiet- not insult his more knowledgeable audience. The gall of him using “bold questioning” as part of his mantra and then turning on those with legitimate questions is inexcusable. But like I said- head too swelled for common sense. Or more likely, Beck is making money getting people to look at other nasty Obama subjects. The eligibility end game would also end Beck’s claim to fame.

  36. #

    citizenwells // February 3, 2010 at 11:51 am

    So Jeremy.
    Why is Beck not keeping his mouth shut and at least asking
    the basic journalistic question that Dobbs asked?
    Why doesn’t Obama present a legitimate birth certificate?
    I add,
    Why doesn’t Obama present his college records?

    There in lies the problem. If one dare to criticize Zero before the election one was called a racist. Once the election was over the “brither” & racist became synonymous. ie Mathews badgering Hayworth. So if one were to leave the birth certificate alone and ask only about college records one would still be lumped in with the “birhthers”.

    I is frustrating.

  37. don in california

    oldsalt78 // February 3, 2010 at 2:17 pm
    Thank you. But, but my main question was for the legal eagles on here. If obama (or whatever his name is) signs a law with a non-legal name, is the law legal??

  38. Prairie // February 3, 2010 at 2:12 pm

    In my opinion, BHO II would have released his original long form birth certificate if the following information was reflected on his original long form birth certificate:

    BHO II was born in Hawaii and BHO Sr. was his father.

    In my opinion, since BHO II has refused to release his original long form birth certificate, either BHO Sr. is not his father, or he wasn’t born in Hawaii.

    As we all know from his book, “Dreams of William Ayers”, BHO Sr. was his father, and he was born in Hawaii, so why doesn’t BHO II release his original long form birth certificate?

  39. Don…………………………………
    You don’t need to be a “legal eagle on that one. You only need to ask if a signed contract is valid if you forge a nam other than your own. As a printing entity for over forty years during which time we done a lot of business as aprime contractor with DOD. Hasd we signed any name other than our own we would have been immediately sued by the US Government Printing Office.

  40. don in california

    Benaiah // February 3, 2010 at 2:30 pm
    If BHO SR is his father then that proves jr is not eligible as a NBC. As long as there is a doubt (which he has already admitted that he is a British Subject) then he can continue to resist.

  41. don in california

    oldsalt78 // February 3, 2010 at 2:38 pm
    True! But I just wanted that question out there due to the bills that obama has/is signing. They are ALL null and void.

  42. don in california

    I’m just waiting for the first person that runs afoul of one of obama’s laws to claim that the law is not legal due to obama not being a legal President due to lack of NBC or obama signing with an illegal name. Either one would give them “standing” to question obama’s status.

  43. I think Glenn Beck s a fairly smart guy.
    I think he has political ambitions; he wants to become one of America’s re-founding fathers. Being associated with the eligibility issue would be too great of a negative for Beck. Sarah Palin distanced herself by calling it a fair question (although not one she would ask).
    If Beck had any evidence that Obama s eligible, he would have show it to us, drawn it on the chalkboard, and called us stupid again.

    Bernie Madoff, ClimateGate, BHO – three great frauds of the century.

  44. Linda from NY

    Prairie // February 3, 2010 at 2:12 pm

    I agree with you about the jr and II designation.

    I believe he was born Steve Dunham because SAD was, as Mo said, single when he was born. That does not mean SAD was his mother, though…I’ve already said I think she was his sister.

    However, there is no proof she married the Kenyan, but it is believed they went to the same college so she could have known him. She or Gramma could have tried to pass off the Kenyan as his father [letter from Grandparents objecting to marriage and Gramma Dunham was not too thrilled about it either] to keep the true identity of his father a secret.

    I think Steve’s name was changed to Barry when Soetoro adopted him [as was implied in the divorce papers].

    Since Mo and Bo are social climbers without the social upbringing, Bo would find he got more attention with an unusual name so he not only adopted the name of his “alleged” father, but he also “adopted” him as his father.

    I read somewhere there was a child born named BHO in Kenya, but the child died. That could be the child Gramma O remembers she witnessed being born.

    I think the whole Obama family was conned into thinking he was senior’s son by the Dunhams. How would they know? Senior had so many children; what’s one more?

    I agree with you…he looks more like Malcom X than BHO senior, but he also looks more like Grampa Dunham than his alleged mother.

    It’s a mystery for sure, but you are correct; II doesn’t fit so you must acquit!

    Happy Day…Linda

  45. Benaiah,
    Exactly! If the long form confirmed HI and Sr. he would release it- the only thing I would ad is the 1961 date. I don’t believe Sr. is the biological father. I believe this has everything to do with SAD’s time as an “au pair” in Chicago (when she was all high from her studies of the Communist Manifesto in Seattle) . I believe bits of info and falsehoods have been planted to keep us chasing our tails in all directions.

  46. Don……………………………………………..
    In all candor this was covered months back .Gregg Goss commented on it so did several others at least one of whom was either attending law school or already had his Juris degree. Also this would be a question to put upon JBJD. I beleive that JBJD’s usual precise”word for word” recital of the pertinent laws should clear the air for you.

  47. don in california

    Thanks OldSalt.

    This area is one that G. Beck could cover, if he would, since he knows so much about the Constitution and laws. ha! I sure don’t expect it to happen.

  48. Sue K – you my friend are my hero!

    Listening to Alex Jones today was a real eye opener. One of his guests was a Wolfgang Wodarg who is leading an investigation into the H1N1 bird/swine flue pandemic in Europe. Baxter was named. He also stated it was a hoax. If you get some time you may want to listen to his interview. I think it was in the third hour. Really good and supports 100% of all of your warnings in late ’09 and early 2010.

    Thank you for your passion and willingness to inform us. Because of you, my elderly mother avoided the shot.

    Here is Mr. Wordag’s site

  49. don in california

    I hope I’m not bothering people with my stupid questions and comments. As I think of things, I have a habit of asking or commenting. I know some of my questions have been discussed before, but believe that they should remain out there for people to consider.

  50. Regardless of who Barky is, the constituion states Natural Born, Barky’s public statement is dual- citizen, Native born. NO court, media, or politician will question the in-your-face contradiction. I am chasing my own tail pondering these things.

  51. Don..I agree, I ask questions too…I hope no one is bothered. We all have the same goal. Respect OUR Constitution, NO ONE is above the Law. We need more investigating journalists …like the ones investigating Acorn.

  52. Linda from NY

    SueK // February 3, 2010 at 2:27 pm

    Isn’t that great? Glad he is insisting it be done post haste. After all, that Kirk guy needs to go back under the rock from which he crawled!

    How ya doing? Any possibilities?

    Happy Day…Linda

  53. don in california // February 3, 2010 at 2:38 pm

    BHO II “admits” that his father is BHO Sr.

    We both agree that if BHO Sr. is his father, BHO II is not an Article II NBC, as his father was a foreigner.

    The debate that is being framed by the opposition is that an Article II NBC doesn’t require 2 citizen parents.

    In my opinion, there is some information on BHO II’s original long form birth certificate that will change the dynamics of the debate from the issue as it stands currently, namely whether an Article II NBC must be born of 2 citizen parents.

    The dynamics of the debate would change dramatically if BHO II wasn’t born in the United States. The opposition could not defend BHO II as an Article II NBC if he wasn’t born in the United States.

    The dynamics of the debate would also change dramtically if BHO Sr. wasn’t his father. If BHO II’s father was someone other than BHO Sr., then the debate would be about whether or not BHO II should be allowed to resign like Nixon, or whether or not he should be criminally prosecuted for fraud and tried for Treason…

  54. truthbetold11

    Beck talk this am about the birth issue, he’s 100 percent right. Who cares!!!! Its just a small part of the big communist take over. Some little document isnt going to go anywhere, look at what they did to the constitution! Obama has a army of cronies who are in place to destroy america. Its a military tactic. You can take out the leader but he still has 100 generals around him waiting to tkae his place. There is a bigger picture going on

  55. I wish I was better at digesting this information. I don’t care if it is a trillion, trillion I don’t like to see the taxpayers money wasted.
    Total Assets of the U.S. Economy $188 Trillion, 13.4xGDP

  56. Linda from NY

    Prairie // February 3, 2010 at 3:00 pm

    You’ll figure it out…you have a fine investigative mind. Keep searching…

    BTW…if this guy was a legitimate person, why would he need to borrow an SS# from someone who lives in CT and would be 109 years old today? I think he is an illegal alien just like his Auntie; here on borrowed time!


  57. In my own opinion there are no laws against signing any name you choose, to anything that you choose. But you will quickly discover ( perhaps the hard, and expensive way, that there are pertinent laws to prosecute such behavior AFTER THE FACT.
    Where it concerns Soetoro, the trick lies in finding anyone who will attempt to prosecute him. Therein lies the reason why he continues to illegally sign anything, and everything. He has the entire Federal court system in his pocket…….so he thinks. The latest court action in DC has a good chance of being successful. In the DC Surerior Court. We will see. I personally am encouraged, but even that said I am not holding my breath.

  58. More eligibility poll results.

    “Barely half of North Carolina voters believe that President Barack Obama was born in the United States, according to a poll released today.
    Public Policy Polling surveyed 749 North Carolina voters from Aug. 4-10, and found that 54 percent believe that Obama was born in the United States.


  60. truthbetold11

    Starting a cable business ,which i work in.Lets say you need long long dough to get started and. Who is going to watch right wing news or the truth. Lies,Deceit,Smears,Murder,Robbery,Nudity, etc is what keeps cable going. Thats why my company always pushes boxes so more things can be ordered. I work there to make a living and pray everyday to get out. but i feel like i have made a difference by helping people make better decisions and not order things they dont need.

  61. don in california // February 3, 2010 at 2:59 pm

    Keep asking your questions. We all have questions.

  62. Linda from NY // February 3, 2010 at 3:08 pm

    Hi Linda,

    Yup…great! Got that link from my pal in the know. Kirk needs to resign NOW and get out of the People’s Seat, which he never ‘won.’

    Doing OK. Found a female locally, but the shelter has now paired her up with another, so they both have to go together; I just can’t get there on a weekday. Still working with my friend in CT for another female who came in last week with her cage mate when I was there; the cage mate was very sick and had to be put down, so this is a possibility.

    Thanks for checking in on the ‘pig dilemma!’

  63. Afternoon. I put a post on the WeSurroundThem site about Glenn Beck insulting people who question Obama’s eligibility. Some guy named Jared Law responded with some questions about how is this helpful etc.

    I answered.

    He suspended my discussion.

    I put up another discussion saying Jared Law suspended my last discussion and stated: So much for freedom of expression.

    He suspended my account. I guess I’m on Glenn’s shit list.



    “Jul 31 2009, 5:14 pm by Chris Good

    Obama Citizenship Poll: Things Get Weird In The GOP Base
    The political world was more or less stunned Friday by the revelation that, according to Research 2000, less than half of Republicans think President Obama was born in the U.S. In fact, 28 percent of the poll’s GOP respondents said he wasn’t. (I question the wording here a little bit, but the statistic is self-explanatory.)

    After initial questions of whether this can be, it’s clear that the polling methodology looks pretty good: Research 2000 polled a decent sample of 2,400 adults nationwide, and the regions are split evenly.”

    From: Politics edited by Marc Ambinder
    “The words of his mouth are mischief and deceit; he has ceased to act wisely and do good. He plots mischief while on his bed; he sets himself in a way that is not good; he spurns not evil. ”
    ” … man and beast, thou savest, O Lord.
    How precious is thy steadfast love, O God! The children of men and women take refuge in the shadow of thy wings.” from Psalms 35

  65. ticktock,

    oh boy….playing the Al-CIA-da card again. Look at that image of those bloated egos all sitting in a room planning THEIR attack on the American people.

  66. Linda from NY

    NancyDrew // February 3, 2010 at 3:15 pm

    Unfortunately, I agree.

    Excellent illustration…Thanks for sharing.

    Happy Day…Linda

  67. ticktock // February 3, 2010 at 3:14 pm

    Hi ticktock,

    Ya, watching this closely.

    If we’re hit again-and I don’t see why we wouldn’t be with Barky in the driver’s seat-he’ll be removed not by the courts or the congress or the military, but the American people.

    The terrorists see a golden opportunity to hit us within our borders because they see a weak, bowing, kowtowing (P)resident who can’t seem to figure out which end is up for anything he touches.

    From now on, please pay attention to your surroundings; if something doesn’t seem right, it probably isn’t.

  68. oldsalt,

    Speaking of JBJD. I haven’t seen her around in a few days. I asked her a question but she hasn’t replied………

    Why was the PRESIDENT’S STAFF involved in writing the Senate health care bill but duly elected Republican Senators were locked out of the process?

    Hear what Demint says at about 5:30 in this clip
    Rahm Emanuel: WH Was “Involved” In Health Legislation “All The Way Through”

    Every fifth grader knows the U.S. Constitution requires a separation of powers through the three branches of government, the Executive, the Legislative and the Judicial. The Legislative Branch has the responsibility of making the laws. Would it be appropriate if a Supreme Court Justice took part in the process of writing a bill? Of course not! Then the present administration has overstepped their authority. This may have occurred in past administrations but for the sake of righteousness and adherence to the Constitution, it must stop NOW! The entire process of this bill was a violation of the Constitution. Shouldn’t it be thrown out?

    Is anyone in Congress going to protest this usurpation of their Constitutional responsibility and demand that the President GET HIS HANDS OFF CONGRESS?! Are we on the road to becoming a dictatorship? Where are the Patriots?

  69. don in california


    TN State Speaker and Lt. Governor Ron Ramsey
    (Feb. 3, 2010) — According to via the AP, when Maclin Davis, a former Tennessee state representative, Legal Counsel for the Tennessee Republican Party and practicing attorney asked State Speaker and Lt. Governor Ron Ramsey whether or not he believed Barack Obama is a U.S. citizen, Ramsey responded: ““I’ve got a table full of advisers sitting over there, and they’ll probably start cringing right about now when I start talking about some of this stuff…I don’t know whether President Obama is a citizen of the United States or not. I don’t know what the whole deal is there.”
    Once again they ask the wrong question. Being a citizen does not qualify you to be President. Must be NBC!!!!!!

    When are they going to learn???

  70. Zack..can you link up the site? Is the site wesurroundthem com, org net?

  71. Study: Hunger in America jumps ‘unprecedented’ 46 percent

    snipped from:

    The study, Hunger in America 2010, found that 37 million people, or roughly one in eight US residents, received food aid in 2009. That’s a 46 percent jump from a similar survey carried out in 2006.

    “More than 46 percent of clients served report having to choose between paying for utilities or heating fuel and food; 39 percent said they had to choose between paying for rent or a mortgage and food; 34 percent report having to choose between paying for medical bills and food; and 35 percent must choose between transportation and food,” the study reports.

    “It is morally reprehensible that we live in the wealthiest nation in the world where one in six people are struggling to make choices between food and other basic necessities,” Escarra said.

  72. These are the answers I gave to Jared Law:

    How is this thread helpful? A large percentage of Glenn Beck’s audience have questions about Obama’s eligibility. It weakens Mr. Beck’s efforts when he goes out of his way to attack them. Glenn is doing the dividing himself.

    Do you REALLY think that’s the best use of our time/efforts?
    Yes. I think Glenn is helping the left to define the issue and define those who question Obama as ‘birthers’. He’s like the family member who turns on another family member because he doesn’t want to risk being embarrassed or is trying to please someone else. I want is for the issue to be defined as a question about who can be a ‘natural born citizen’. If it is defined correctly, people will demand answers. If answers are demanded, Obama can be removed and all the damage he is doing can be reversed. you REALLY think that between NOW and NEXT JANUARY, that it isn’t more important to stop the legislation…
    It is important to do both. Making sure we do not let the left define who we are and what we are asking is equally important.

    What, precisely, are you trying to accomplish, Zach?
    I want to let Glenn know that what he is doing is unfair and unnecessary. If he does not want to discuss the issue, fine. However, if he wants to misstate the issue there will be many to step up and say wait just a minute – you have that wrong.

    If Glenn shows me that I have my facts wrong, I will stop. Maybe I should get one Glenn’s little red phones.

  73. JS – following the 2004 DNC Convention, all Ds heard was about the wonderful, smart, exciting, smart, great, smart man who went by the name of Obama. He’s somebody to watch. He should run for Pres. He speaks so well. Very articulate. yada yada. Ds were spoonfed this info and didn’t question.

    We Hillary supporters listened but dismissed him b/c of his lack of experience, his questionable connections and his name recognition was low. Instead, we turned a blind eye b/c we couldn’t fathom how the majority of “smart” thinking Ds would possibly support this total unknown or inexperienced political climber. Especially given HRCs experience and name recognition.

    We were terribly wrong.

    He started his sales pitch that night in 2004 and spent the next three years shmoozing and playing nice with the leaders of the local party’s. He convinced them her was one of them.

    Call me a skeptic but I see similarities b/w the guy that came out of the blue with the gal that has come out of the blue. Ds were told 0 was the one and now I see TPers being told the same about Palin. Rockefeller is behind 0 and Rothchild is now behind Palin. Both have their own agendas – good or bad – and have their own visions.

    Everytime I’ve mentioned Hillary you have rightfully tried to pry open my eyes to force me to see her for who she is. I did and continue to do so. I will never support her again and I thank you for that.

    Well, everytime I throw caution about Palin here you become defensive and go on the attack. No one else does this here. Only you.

    Most of the time I just try to ignore you, but you don’t stop until you get a reaction. So, I react to you more out of sheer frustration than anything else, and b/c I do, I go into moderation but you suffer no consequence.

    What many of us have been trying to say to you and CW for sometime now is that we share a thought, info, or opinion and the next thing we know is we are being judged by you. How is this helpful? It’s not b/c we want to converse not be judged. There is a difference.

    Two or three threads down you spent time, late at night, analyzing me and my comments and finally cast the judgement that I was a Ron Paul supporter. I challenged you on this and you never answered. Instead you came at me over Palin and the TP.

    Not once have I stated support for anyone let alone Ron Paul. Not once. Yet, you think it’s perfectly fine to toss such false information out there and bear no consequence. And then you wonder why people get frustrated with you.

    I for one like to read your thoughts and opinions, but I draw a line at your judgements. I find them unhelpful and damaging to the rich conversations that take place on this board.

    Thanks for hearing me out.

    when all I am trying to do is get you to do what you asked me to do…open your eyes and learn.

  74. Don……………………..
    In reality, I do not beleive that Beck has any grounding in juris prudence. Rather it is my belief that the FOX legal team thoroughly examines everything that he wants to put on a show, and they remove anything that they view as too controversial to repeat on the air. It has been my belief that if he could he would have gone into the eligibility issue long ago. After all his tenure will be decided by rating, and the eligibility issue would be equivalent to TNT. Fox knows this I am sure, and I tend to think that they are afraid that it will explode in their faces. There broadcasting liscenses would be terminated immediately, by Obama himself. (illegally). I am further sure that Murdoch has already told the entire FOX staff, “If you screw up we, and you are finished.”

  75. From TPMDC

    Is Virginia For Birthers?
    By Eric Kleefeld – August 5, 2009, 11:31AM

    “The new survey of Virginia by Public Policy Polling (D) finds that only 53% of likely voters in the state think that President Obama was born in the United States, compared to 24% who say he was not and another 24% who are not sure.”

    Does Glenn Beck realize the number of Americans he discounts by his comments regarding o.’s ineligibility?

  76. Linda NY,

    Haven’t forgotten you. I FINALLY found my information on the outsourcing to India and China I was speaking about earlier. I’m in the process of writing up a post.

  77. Patriot Dreamer

    Jonah // February 3, 2010 at 3:28 pm

    Jonah, this has been going on for many years – it is not a new thing with BO. IMO, BO, Nancy Pelosi, and Harry Reid all want basically the same things, so in that sense it doesn’t really matter anyway.

    To become law, all bills must pass both the Senate and the House and then signed by the President. It has become common practice for representatives from the White House to negotiate with Congress during the bill writing process. Congress still has the ability to accept, reject, or modify anything that the Administration’s representatives propose, and the White House still has the ability to veto the legislation if it ends up being something it doesn’t like.

    Hope this helps.

  78. don in california

    zachjonesishome // February 3, 2010 at 3:29 pm
    This what I just posted on the 912project forum.

    He got elected because he refused to prove that he is a Natural Born Citizen. We have a British Subject sitting in the Oval Office pretending to be President!!

  79. Thanks Don in California. I’m not allowed in anymore. Who is Jared Law?

  80. After reading ZACH’S comment I too cringe a little. At every turn Beck is demonstrating an alignment with the LIBERAL,progressive side. I was giving him the benefit of the doubt up to a short while ago. My faith in him is nearly exhausted. Beck you need to clarify your positions, and /or start showing support for …….”FAIR AND BALANCED.” Because right now it looks as though you are one of …….”THEM”.

  81. Patriot Dreamer

    and more info. here:

    “Sen. Kirk Must Step Down; Brown Election To Be Certified Thursday”

  82. Zack, Looks like you hit a nerve. Sorry you got booted, you were extremely cordial and there was no reason for them to do that. So you definitely hit a sore spot cuz they could not refute you. Good job!

  83. Patriot Dreamer

    Zach, I think Jared Law is the owner/webmaster for the 9/12 project website.

  84. oldsalt78 – I don’t think Glenn pays close attention to the site but some of his staff hear about it. All I wanted to do over there is express the idea that he should just ignore the issue – but stop insulting us.

    I was surprised to get kicked off the site. That’s a first for me – especially at what I considered the neighborhood pub. Darn. Oh well, got to speak up or get run over.

    It would be nice if someone would at least let the others know that I was fired and didn’t quit.

    Thanks – Zach

  85. Obama Surrendering Internet to Foreign Powers

    snipped from:

    “Without the ingenuity of America’s brightest minds and the investment of U.S. taxpayer dollars, there would be no Internet, as we now know it today.”

    “Now, the Obama administration has moved quietly to cede control of the Web from the United States to foreign powers.”

    “The argument advanced for those seeking international control of the Internet is that the Internet has become such a powerful, pervasive, and a dependent form of international communications, that it would be dangerous and inequitable for any one nation to control and manage it.”

    So…I don’t know…just guessing it’s going to be handed over to the U.N.

  86. Zach,

    This is exactly why I ‘unenrolled’ in the 9/12 Project.

    Don’t wanna have anything to do with them…

  87. Thanks alot Zack…It is so hard to believe all the corruption, and ignorance to OUR Constitution.

  88. Patriot Dreamer – When my discussion was suspended by Jared – I did send an email (an option that was available to protest) saying: What? So now you are the thought police? How is this different from fascism?

    Maybe that did it?

    I didn’t know who he was and he didn’t tell me so I got just a little ticked.


  89. Margie – Glenn Becks knows! He is just playing some sort of game. Zach

  90. ZACH…………………………………………………

    The fact that they booted you seems to confirm a lot of suspicions. Mine included. It seems that the Fox entity has moved to the left also. Perhaps Soetoro has ALREADY made it clear to FOX that their liscensure is now on the table. With out a doubt, Soetoro has caved to pressure from his friends at Acorn,and SEIU.

  91. oldsalt78 – It’s a sad state of affairs when a person can’t ask a few questions!

  92. don in california

    They haven’t deleted my comment yet. I’m waiting.

  93. FYI: Donofrio’s main Chrysler client is on Cavuto right now.

  94. I read this article as a definite propaganda piece, but the poll RESULTS are worth examining, imo. Hmmm. Increasingly earnest efforts at discrediting the ineligibility issue seem to be afoot in the land.

    PPP National “birther”/”truther” poll

    Brendan Nyhan | September 23, 2009

    “Tom Jensen of Public Policy Polling continues his interesting polling on political misperceptions in a new national poll (PDF) that was conducted Sept. 18-21 and released today.” …..

    “The primary finding is that the Obama birth certificate misperception ( My comment: They’ve already examined the evidence and rendered a legal judgment, have they?) has become far more prevalent among Republicans (42% no, 22% not sure) than the 9/11 misperception for Democrats (25% yes, 12% not sure). The percentage of Republicans who directly endorse the myth has increased substantially since the Daily Kos poll released in late July (which found 28% of Republicans said Obama wasn’t born in this country and 30% weren’t sure).”
    “They feast on the abundance of thy house, and thou givest them drink from the river of thy delights. For with thee is the fountain of life; in thy light do we see light.” from Psalms 35

  95. Judge Andrew Napolitano interview on Alex Jones’ show today. Talks about terror attacks on the U.S.

    Here is the podcast of that segment.
    [audio src="" /]

  96. LadyHawke:

    I’m glad to hear Scott Brown will be seated tomorrow at 5 p.m.

    Let’s hope they don’t try to push through some votes between now & then.

  97. don in california – maybe you should extend an invitation to come here? Just kidding – I don’t want to get on to them too bad. They have their role to play.


    Note: I won’t be going back because I need to be able to say what I need to say. Always, respectfully.


  99. Zach:

    That is how I feel. Beck doesn’t have to discuss the issue. But there is no need to insult the people who do wish to. I wonder exactly why he feels the need to continually do so. Once was enough.

  100. Or I should say, once was too much.

  101. Old Salt:

    Amen to that!

  102. BTW, Judge Napolitano on the podcast I posted above makes reference to the lack of birth records of Obama while making a point about Jose Padillo’s case.

    The Judge isn’t afraid to talk about it!

  103. Nancy Drew,

    Cavuto is covering that right now, the headline bar reads “BROWN TO BE SWORN IN AFTER VOTE ON UNION OFFICIAL.”

    Apparently that makes it more likely that card check will be passed.

  104. Patriot Dreamer

    zachjonesishome // February 3, 2010 at 3:59 pm

    I think that might have done it.

    I have noticed that Beck has limited his talk about “birthers” to those who believe BO was not born in the United States. Beck hasn’t mentioned NBC at all, as far as I know. That’s kind of the same point Leo Donofrio was trying to make: that if we make the issue all about the birth certificate (where BO was born), but we don’t have solid & complete information on where he was born, then all BO has to do is bide his time and then bring out the long-form BC.

    I wonder if Beck has talked to Hawaii Gov. Linda Lingle and she told him what the BC says? I have no idea, just thinking out loud.

    At any rate, I think it was unnecessary for Beck to insult “birthers” in that Alinsky-like fashion.

  105. don in california

    I’m really hitting them today. I just posted the following:

    Since we have the 1st Amendment, it doesn’t really matter if he is muslim or not. But, he has admitted to being a British Subject at birth which makes him ineligible to be President since he is NOT a Natural Born Citizen.

  106. Patriot Dreamer: I agree – I have not heard him mention natural born citizen. I remember his comment when he was talking to Michelle Malkin. Glenn said: Even if it’s true – What are we going to do? Throw him out?

  107. My question to Glen would be, did you read the Constitution? No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President. They all say he is a citizen? Was he around during the adoption of the Constitution? And no I did not need to go to Harvard, to comprehend the Constitution.

  108. Don:

    Good hit!

  109. don in california

    zachjonesishome // February 3, 2010 at 4:09 pm
    After today I’m going to unenroll myself. I just want to have my say before I do.

  110. don in california – There’s a lot of people over there that think the eligibility issue is big. Keep putting it out there. Zach

  111. don in california – maybe you should stay enrolled in case you, CW or someone needs to get a message to them in the future???

  112. JustMe:

    Thanks for the link to the podcast. I’ll listen to it later on. Gotta love the judge!

  113. don in california – if you do unenroll – leave a message that I was fired – I did not quit posting. Thanks Zach

    I do think that Jared Law’s strict policing of this issue does not help Glenn Beck’s efforts.

  114. don in california

    Zack, will do.

  115. Patriot Dreamer

    zachjonesishome // February 3, 2010 at 4:22 pm

    Zach, I can only think that he thinks that no judge will take up the issue (because it’s a political hot-potato), and even if one did, the case could be dragged out for years. We kind of saw that in California with Judge Carter and with Mario Apuzzo/Charles Kerchner where it took months just to reach a decision on jurisdiction and legal standing. Impeachment is not really an option right now, either, because BO’s party has big majorities in both houses of Congress.

  116. Zach,CW, anyone,
    We need to do a natural born citizen youtube for Glenn Beck ala Glenn Beck Style. Use of the blackboard and chalk, picture magnets etc…. then we need a red phone where Glenn can call and tell us where we are wrong.

  117. I had no idea PPP was running such an in-depth survey. According to the numbers, I’d say the ineligibility issue has morphed into a huge blaze amongst us sheeple. My sincere thanks to PPP for their polls and to the publishers of their findings.

    More PPP ineligibility poll results.—-oh-my.php

    My quotes from the article are selective. The title gives you the true flavor of the article.

    New Jersey Poll: Birthers, Truthers, And The Anti-Christ — Oh, My!
    TPMDC Eric Kleefeld | September 16, 2009, 12:41PM

    “My home state of New Jersey is one crazy place, according to the new survey of the state by Public Policy Polling (D).”

    “It turns out that 33% of New Jersey Republicans say that Obama was not born in the United States, plus 19% in the Birther-Curious undecided category.”

    “So that’s only 48% of Jersey Republicans who definitively are not Birthers…”
    O continue thy steadfast love to those who know thee, and thy salvation to the upright of heart! Let not the foot of arrogance come upon (us), nor the hand of the wicked drive (us) away.” from Psalms 35

  118. jc // February 3, 2010 at 4:32 pm

    Zach,CW, anyone,
    We need to do a natural born citizen youtube for Glenn Beck ala Glenn Beck Style. Use of the blackboard and chalk, picture magnets etc…. then we need a red phone where Glenn can call and tell us where we are wrong.


    I like it. CW – you watching?

  119. Zach.. I love it!

  120. Patriot Dreamer // February 3, 2010 at 4:32 pm

    I have been totally disappointed in the courts. You are right – it is too hot for courts. Maybe if Obama keeps damaging the country some judge will tighten his or her belt and step up. Zach

  121. I was just imagining what would happen if hackers from a foreign country went after the bc and college records.

    After watching Obama bow and figuratively kiss the rear ends of countries that want to destroy the US, can’t you just see the Obama administration go into full code orange/highest threat/scramble the fighters/launch the warships mode against a country that had hackers trying to find out what he’s hiding about his personal background. He’d probably tell the guy with the nuclear football suitcase to get ready.

    What a piece of work.

  122. jc and amy1 – I don’t have the equipment. However, it would be great if CW, Leo Donofrio, Mario Apuzzo and maybe Commander Kerchner were interested! Zach

  123. This article made me sick to my stomach. Obama soliciting high school kids.

    PARENTS BEWARE!! Obama Organizing In OHIO High School

    Obama is using our public school system to recruit for his Alinsky-inspired “people’s organization.” Organizing for America is (and I quote) recruiting in our high schools to “build on the movement that elected President Obama by empowering students across the country to help us bring about our agenda” …………of national socialism.

  124. Patriot Dreamer

    !?!! // February 3, 2010 at 4:32 pm

    The Dems. are trying to use Alinsky tactics against us:

    “Pick the Target, Freeze It, Personalize It and Polarize It.”

  125. jc and amy1 – if a youtube could be done with the right person – questioning Beck – it might just help to get the right message out there. Good idea!

    I’ve got to go for a bit. I’ll check back in later. Zach

  126. **** New Post ****

    This is not the surprise for Beck, only part of it.

  127. Zach.
    Have you been reading my mind.
    My latest post is the first installment.
    Red phone for Beck’s calls.
    I have a chalkboard.

  128. Dang.. I dont have the equipment either, but I surely love that idea

  129. Zach @ 3:22
    I can’t be insulted on the eligibility issue for 2 reasons: The Constitution
    The Bill of Rights-I think freedom of speech covers-asking a question.
    Ask the question and so many in the media FREAK OUT, which leads to next question WHY??????

  130. don in california

    zachjonesishome // February 3, 2010 at 4:45 pm
    Maybe a youtube with cut in’s of beck saying “question with boldness”, etc.

  131. SueK @ 3:28 pm
    Very good advice beware of your surroundings. I agree God Forbid there is another terrorist attack, Obama is more than half done, that would finish him off. But think about this, all those who aided, abbeted, ignored, lied, fabricated etc. off to jail with them, those who wimped out will not be able to walk down the street or get a cup of coffee.

  132. Linda from NY

    SEC IG Report: George Demos Pimped Peter Sivere

    By Larry Doyle on February 3, 2010 at 12:30 AM

    “I am writing to shed further light on what I deem to be the incestuous nature of the Wall Street-Washington relationship.”

  133. Patriot Dreamer // February 3, 2010 at 3:42 pm
    Jonah // February 3, 2010 at 3:28 pm
    Jonah, this has been going on for many years – it is not a new thing with BO. IMO, BO, Nancy Pelosi, and Harry Reid all want basically the same things, so in that sense it doesn’t really matter anyway.

    To become law, all bills must pass both the Senate and the House and then signed by the President. It has become common practice for representatives from the White House to negotiate with Congress during the bill writing process. Congress still has the ability to accept, reject, or modify anything that the Administration’s representatives propose, and the White House still has the ability to veto the legislation if it ends up being something it doesn’t like.

    Hope this helps.
    Thank you for taking the time to respond. But no, it doesn’t help. I am still outraged.

    Duly elected Senators are locked out …….but you say it really doesn’t matter because the president’s staff has been taking part in making the laws has for many years?

    Hear what Demint says at about 5:30 in this clip
    Rahm Emanuel: WH Was “Involved” In Health Legislation “All The Way Through”

    As I read it, the Constitution designates that responsibility ONLY to the House and the Senate.

    United States Constitution
    Article. I.
    Section 1.
    All legislative Powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States, which shall consist of a Senate and House of Representatives.

    The president does not make the laws he just places his signature on the bill and even if he vetoes a one it still can be passed by 2/3 of Congress. He does NOT have the final word.

    Because this has been going on for many years, we should just turn our heads and let them keep on doing it? This gradual erosion of the Constitution is why our nation is deteriorating. And that is exactly what the spineless members of Congress are doing. If THEY, the very first of the Three Separation of Powers mentioned in the Constitution, don’t give a damn and won’t protest this usurpation of their Constitutional responsibility then we might as well tear up the Constitution because it’s worthless.

    What’s the use of all your and my whining and complaining about Obama and all his deceptions? Without the Constitution, we have no recourse. Just save ourselves all the pain and aggravation and give him a crown and sceptor.

    I tried. Lord, have mercy on us all.

  134. don in california // February 3, 2010 at 2:25 pm

    Don, isn’t that like signing a financial contract with a name not yours??

    A mortgage, a car loan, insurance??

    Wouldn’t the answer be yes, it’s criminal??

    What’s to stop anyone from buying anything and signing another name on the contract??

  135. don in california // February 3, 2010 at 2:59 pm

    It’s okey dokey with me since I have adopted this stance…………

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