Nevada elections, Harry Reid, Senate majority leader, 2010 elections, Harry is history, ACORN corruption, Las Vegas Tea Party, Citizen Wells open thread October 20, 2009

Harry is History

Citizen Wells open thread for October 20, 2009.
The state of Nevada is ready to clean house. The good citizens of NV have two big reasons to be outraged.

ACORN corruption and Senator Harry Reid, who along with Nancy Pelosi, fellow Democrats and Obama are trying to destroy this country. Harry Reid is, in fact, more concerned about protecting ACORN than protecting the citizens of this country.

Monday, October 19, 2009, the Citizen Wells blog presented

 

“The Nevada Grassroots Coalitions invite you to participate in this exciting event. This is a chance for you to meet the team that is now leading our county to win back our state. If you care about your family and our state You can not afford to  miss this event.
 
Join us and our feature speaker Nevada State Senate-Minority Whip Barbara K. Cegavske. The Senator will provide us unique insight as to what we need to do to win back our state. She will present a valuable analysis of the State Assembly and Senate for the 2010 elections.”

 Nevada Grassroots Coalitions

Congresswoman Dina Titus is hosting a health care forum Monday October 19th to hear your concerns about government run health care. It is critical that we show up in force to take a stand against a government take over of our health care. Please bring your friends, family, and neighbors to this important event. Make sure your voice is heard but remember to be respectful and polite.”

Congresswoman Dina Titus health care forum
 

Let’s support our friends and fellow Americans in Nevada to kick out Harry Reid and take back their state.

Tomorrow the Citizen Wells blog will kick off a series of articles, an extension of the Congress Hall of Shame that was begun last year. Tomorrow’s article will feature Senator Harry Reid.

Harry Reid can be voted out next year.

We will attempt to unseat Nancy Pelosi as a California representative. We have a good shot at removing Pelosi as Speaker of the House.

We cannot become overconfident or complacent.

201 responses to “Nevada elections, Harry Reid, Senate majority leader, 2010 elections, Harry is history, ACORN corruption, Las Vegas Tea Party, Citizen Wells open thread October 20, 2009

  1. “dingy” Harry, is just THAT.

    God Bless us, God HELP us.

    I will forward this information.

    What will you use as a form of communication in one year?

  2. BTW … where’s re-do?

  3. Venice,

    I’m just catching up. …

    He did say he would NOT QUIT. I heard it too. Then with his thuggery way, he leaned over and took “that” tone and said … I’m just getting started. ( barf)

  4. About the cousins ….

    Let me see if I’m getting this right ….

    Stanley Ann & Frank M Davis are cousins?
    And together they produced BHO ?

    If that’s right, where is this story and evidence coming from? I know .. MissTickly … bet where did she find it?

    WT ?????????????????????

    It just gets crazier by the day.

  5. With all the voting fraud going on, somehow I have a feeling both botox bimbo and harry hairpiece will find a way to pay their way back into office. You see, the elections are fixed.

    Fix the elections and you fix the nation

    (note the tergiversation)

  6. Regarding Leo Donofrio on the previous thread:

    He has always maintained that he thought Obama was born in Hawaii and sought to get that verified using Hawaiian law.

    I thought he expected to get the runaround from the various officials, which would allow him to file a lawsuit to compel them to release the requested information. I also thought that when he parted ways with TerriK, it was easier for him because he would then only have to represent himself.

    I really does seem that he got to the lawsuit stage and quit.

    He calls for increased publicity and explains that necessity and then closes his blog?

    I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt and hope he really is working with patriot clients, but I am concerned.

  7. Miss Tickly doesn’t have the evidence yet that Obama’s parents are Anne and Davis, or that either are part of the Hawaiian Royalty (cousins). She is making some huge assumptions and leaps at this moment (but she is working hard trying to find the connections). We will see if she finds actual connections, but for right now, it’s just a theory.

  8. Thank you, Paulajal, for explaining what we’ve been reading about i.e., the Obama parents possibility—I look forward to Miss Tickly resolution of this theory.

  9. Ladyhawke,
    Is there an attorney that would “pick up” from where Leo is at present and go forward in HI?

  10. Val,
    Didn’t you and I talk about the “quit” word in his speech? I remember talking here on the blog with someone. Because the thought was that the idea of “quitting” may have gone through his thoughts. In Dem fashion of “doublespeak”
    I’m not going to “quit” can translate to
    I am quitting—this sucks —this is my opinion.

  11. How do you listen to blog talk radio – I clicked on site but do not know how to connect ? I am computer dumb.

  12. Val, maddie,

    I don’t question it at all. I just wanted to hear the tone with which he said it, often reveals much. If Ihave the fortitude, I’ll go back and listen; thanks for letting me know more or less where it is.

  13. Bring it on buddy!We are ready for you…so are the Oathkeepers…

  14. maddie, Val,

    I just finished listening, but this time with a different ear. Still didn’t hear him say he’d quit, so I suspect it’s been edited, which is interesting in itself.

    But actually it doesn’t matter, because the essence of the speech, if I were a supporter is distressing.

    He is pleading with his audience to support him. Odd because he is no longer a candidate. He is pleading with his audience not to grow “tired”, not to treat the election like a “fad”, not to forget that he did win.

    If I were a supporter, I would be very worried.

  15. Maddie…………………………..

    Go back to the last thread, because I added another somewhat lengthy comment to you specifically. My last comment is the one that I am referring to.

  16. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/20/world/asia/20afghan.html?hp

    Somehow this doesn’t seem to be a surprise. They sure got him by the gonads.

  17. OT:

    Major Garrett—reported that he has the Swine Flu—-wonder if he got it at a Gibbs’ presser?

  18. OT:

    Greta V.S.—spending a lot of air time talking about Axelrod’s criticism of the Fox News Network not really being a news network, reporting the news, etc.

    Apparently Newsweek is calling Fox News “un-American”—- that’s strange, isn’t it?—I’d call Fox News the closest we have to an “American” news network.

  19. Venice,
    Just to make it clear on the SF speech—
    bo said he” won’t quit” (not that he “would quit”).

    Interesting point here is that: 1. he used the word “quit” referring to himself and 2. the thought that the “idea” may have crossed his brain! 3. Dem doublespeak for the “opposite”

    Hope I’m not making it sound more confusing.
    When I heard him say it he wasn’t smiling and had that tired, glum look on his face imho.

  20. Patriot Dreamer

    Newsweek has turned into BO’s personal cheerleading squad. LOL!

  21. Ladyhawke,

    Leo is getting ready to pull the trigger and LITIGATE, is how i interpret his words. Sounds like he getting ready to file.

    He’s not closing his blog.

  22. maddie, I agree with you that Obummer saying that he “won’t quit” is significant in that it means the subject of quitting is in his head- kind of a Freudian slip.

  23. Patriot Dreamer

    Richard, that’s what I was thinking Leo D. meant, too. I hope so, anyway.

  24. Patriot Dreamer

    The Senate Finance Committee’s health care bill has been filed. It is 1,502 pages long.

    http://www.politico.com/livepulse/1009/Finance_Committee_bill_has_been_filed_.html

  25. Has anyone heard any more about Leo Haffey?

  26. Patriot Dreamer

    Recession hits Hawaii’s public schools (closed on most Fridays through end of academic year):

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091019/ap_on_bi_ge/us_hawaii_school_year

  27. Patriot Dreamer,

    Id like to think that Leo D. is getting ready to sink his fangs in the back of some body’s head, and suck the juices right out (Hawaii)

  28. OldSalt77—I’ll see what can be done.
    I know there used to be a Federal Repository at a university not too far away from here. I’ll contact the reference librarians this week and see what direction to go. Or, do you recommend online routes, if so what do you suggest?

  29. Patriot Dreamer

    We can hope, Richard!

  30. Richard,

    I meant to say that he closed comments to his blog where until today he claimed he got very good input.

    I am sorry to disagree, but as he said he was working with others – something unnecessary in what I thought was his original plan – he could file those suits alone.

    Had he not stopped comments, we could get a clarification.

  31. Hey, everyone:

    My husband and I think drudge is kind of going downhill. What’s happening there?

  32. oldsalt77
    **** Aristotle the Hun (if you are reading this) ****
    I received a rather disturbing message from Leo Haffey’s wife a few minutes ago.
    It appears she is being jerked around by the prosecutor’s office.
    I will try to clarify in the morning.

  33. I hope I’m wrong, but when I read Leo’s post, I thought he was almost hoping for someone else to go forward due to the almost simplistic nature of any person having standing in HI etc., etc.,

  34. CW,

    Leo needs to file an immediate writ of Habeas Corpus. Tomorrow. The longer he waits, the worse it will get.

  35. Hi Kittycat,
    I’m not sure, you are probably right on that. Don’t hear much from Drudge of breaking news substance.

  36. JeffM.
    That is a possibility.

  37. OT:

    Liz Cheney on Hannity tomorrow night:

    She’ll discuss why obama’s radical policies are putting us all in danger.

  38. Patriot Dreamer

    A perspective on the Afganistan War from journalist Michael Yon

    http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=MjI1NjRiNDc1OGRmZjBjYTMwMGY1ZDU0NTVhNGU3NzU=

  39. Indian River County, Florida 76 chihuas puppies were donated by a breeder who could no longer care for them.They will be available by the end of the month, just saw on the news Channel 12 CBS. They are so cute….

  40. I just spoke to Aristotle the Hun about Leo Haffey.
    I am somewhat encouraged by our conversation.
    Will relay more as I can.

  41. CW,

    That’s good news! Tuning in for updates…

  42. I am working on educating myself about SSNs in general. Thought maybe it might be of interest to us here as well. Will post some info.

    •Area numbers – The first three numbers originally represented the state in which a person first applied for a Social Security card. Numbers started in the northeast and moved westward. This meant that people on the east coast had the lowest numbers and those on the west coast had the highest. Since 1972, the SSA has assigned numbers and issued cards based on the ZIP code in the mailing address provided on the original application form. Since the applicant’s mailing address doesn’t have to be the same as his residence, his area number doesn’t necessarily represent the state in which he resides. For many of us who received our SSNs as infants, the area number indicates the state we were born in. You can find out which area numbers go with each state at SSA.gov: Social Security Number Allocations.
    •Group numbers – These two middle digits, which range from 01 through 99, are simply used to break all the SSNs with the same area number into smaller blocks, which makes administration easier. (The SSA says that, for administrative reasons, group numbers issued first consist of the odd numbers from 01 through 09, and then even numbers from 10 through 98, within each area number assigned to a state. After all the numbers in group 98 of a specific area have been issued, the even groups 02 through 08 are used, followed by odd groups 11 through 99.)
    •Serial numbers – Within each group designation, serial numbers — the last four digits in an SSN — run consecutively from 0001 through 9999.
    Although SSNs are issued in some order, there is no simple way to tell a person’s age based on his Social Security number.

  43. http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/10/federal-court-case-to-make-obama-prove.html#links
    The Steady Drip
    Monday, October 19, 2009
    Federal Court Case to Make Obama Prove Eligibility Marches On
    Federal Court Case to Make Obama Prove Eligibility Marches On
    Executive Summary – There is a live case in US Federal Court with Judge David Carter to make Obama prove his eligibility to be President of the USA. On Oct. 5th the Department of Justice attorneys went into court and did not produce any documents establishing Obama’s eligibility instead argued why the case should be dismissed. Absurd.
    They say things like the Federal Courts have no jurisdiction over the President; only the legislature has power to do this under impeachment proceedings. Wrong. Poorly argued. If Obama was not qualified then he is not President and also then he is guilty of crimes along with many co-conspirators. Crimes like fraud, election fraud, frauds against a federal court, treason, perjury, and sedition. Things one goes to jail for many years for.
    Imagine seeing a CNN special with Obama in the same prison as the victims of the UBS bank fiasco. May be coming to a station near you sooner than you think. The Justice Department is also saying the citizens have no status as rightful plaintiffs to challenge the President’s eligibility. This does not even deserve a comment it is so far fetched. Goes to show these lawyers will do anything to keep their jobs.
    The judge took Obamas motion to dismiss under advisement and has not yet ruled on it for 10 days, which is not good but not that bad either. If they survive the dismissal motion then they will seek orders for the production of documents such as his birth certificate. Obama will object and file stall motions. They will also file for the deposition of Obama. Such a deposition he could not survive so I doubt he will ever show up. If they lose the dismissal motion the plaintiffs will file appeals and keep beating the drum. The best bet for the Obama lawyers is to fight everything and stall, stall, stall and hope it can go on until after he has finished his terms and then try to dismiss it as moot since he is no longer the President thus avoiding any criminal charges.
    Obama getting reelected is absurd in that he would have to prove his eligibility to run again and that is not something he will chance. Why should the US taxpayers have to pay for Obamas defense when all he has to do is produce one document? This one is bigger than 9/11 but they figured if they got away with 9/11 this is a no brainier. Well they tripped on their own shoelaces again. These people are maybe 20% as smart as people think they are and 500% more vicious and ruthless than people think they are. Bad combination but do not overestimate them.
    Implications – Well Obama is certainly upset by this. If this goes wrong he stands to face a stiff jail sentence, will be bankrupt in legal fees defending himself in that he is not a Rockefeller or Kennedy. If he is not president he is not able to use the Justice department to defend him personally against criminal charges filed by the justice department. His handlers are whispering sweet reassurances to him but rest assured this is stressing him out big time. He is facing riches to rags and could die in prison. Since he knows secrets he would have to be put in a military secure prison in isolation and kept away from the media something like the way they kept Noriega. He would not be eligible for secret service protection since he was not ever a real President. His wife could also face conspiracy charges.
    He is wondering if he was set up by his handlers. How is it going to end? How much do his handlers really care about him? He will put on a good front like the president of Iran does but rest assured they are both gravely troubled by the circumstances as in anxiety, lack of appetite, trouble sleeping, etc. I would watch for signs of Obama cracking up if this case moves forward.
    Suggestions – If Obama was eligible he would have laughingly produced his birth certificate and blamed the whole affair on racism, his favorite scapegoat but of course also a racist one at that. No he cannot produce what he needs to is the obvious conclusion. Keep educating friends and relatives about this and get as many people as possible aware of this.
    Education alone causes damage in a case like this. Don’t let them get away with this. This guy has the nuclear triggers. Scary huh? If people accuse you of being racist for picking on Obama because he is black this is what you say: If you do not call him black I will not call him white. That’s should shut that down. Remind everyone that Obama is just as much white as he is black.

  44. Does everyone have to have a Social Security number?

    According to the U.S. Internal Revenue Service (IRS), any U.S. citizen (over age 18) who receives income must have an SSN. Employers are required to use that SSN to report the individual’s income to the IRS.

    Social Security coverage is mandatory — you can’t drop out. To those who claim their private retirement plans are better, the SSA points to its disability coverage and provisions for survivors, coverage it claims provides greater protection for families than what most private pensions provide.

  45. What happens to my social security number after my death?

    According to the SSA, SSNs are not recycled. Upon an individual’s death, the number is removed from the active files and is not reused. Recycling numbers might become an issue someday, but not any time soon — statisticians say that the nine-digit SSN allows for approximately one billion possible combinations.

  46. maddie-Thank you for that information, I was wondering what the “code” was for the social security numbers. I knew there had to be some logic to it.

  47. maddie-I always wondered how to they check for abuse re: multiple ss#’s like the Obama crime family. In Chicago they would have the WELFARE QUEENS using many multiple ss#’ for purposes of fraud-multiple ss #’s targeting many agencies. Every once in awhile newspapers would do an expose. Usually the welfare queens would expose themselves by driving around in expensive cars, expensive houses, clothes, jewelry etc. I would love to find out how those people accomplish their crimes. How many are currently doing this? How much cost to the taxpayers? Etc.

  48. You are not necessarily required to give your SSN to government agencies asking for it. These agencies must provide you with a Privacy Act of 1974 Disclosure Notice, which explains which law allows them to ask, whether you are required to answer and what penalties you face if you refuse to provide the number.

    If a business or private company insists on knowing your SSN (they are not bound by the restrictions mentioned above), you can choose either to provide it or to take your business elsewhere.

  49. What if I find out someone else is using my SSN?

    First, you should call the police and contact the Social Security Administration Fraud Hotline, which is operated by the Office of the Inspector General (OIG), an independent law enforcement agency that investigates violations connected with SSA programs. These violations include the following:
    •Misuse of an SSN
    •False statements on claims
    •Misrepresentation or concealment of facts affecting eligibility
    •False statements made to obtain an SSN
    •Crimes involving SSA employees
    •Conflict-of-interest and standards-of-conduct violations
    •Mismanagement and/or waste of funds

  50. http://www.inthesetimes.com/article/3796/the_dark_side_of_the_toyota_prius
    Linda from NY-This one’s for you.
    News » July 16, 2008
    The Dark Side of the Toyota Prius
    By Paul Abowd
    A new report alleges that Toyota, the world’s largest auto company, is violating workers’ rights at Prius hybrid plants in Japan.
    Share Facebook Digg del.icio.us Newsvine StumbleUpon Reddit TwitThis Furl Propeller The National Labor Committee (NLC), a New York-based human rights group, has been investigating working conditions at Toyota Motor Corp., and the labor used to produce its best-selling Prius hybrid cars.
    In its 65-page report released in June, NLC includes first-hand testimony of factory conditions in “Toyota City,” outside of Nagoya, Japan — less than 200 miles southwest of Tokyo — where the largest auto company in the world employs some 70,000 people.

  51. Michelle,
    Sounds like SSN fraud could be rampant in certain crime circles and even at the highest level. The source for this SSN info is “HowStuffWorks” .

  52. maddie-Thanks I’m going to check into that tomorrow. I think I better go to bed.

  53. A message to all members of Constitutional Emergency

    Joe has asked us to ask ourselves some very important questions. Lets read this post and lets unite.

    http://patriotsforamerica.ning.com/profiles/blogs/my-plea-to-everyone-in-this

  54. Unite or Die!
    Count me in!

  55. Michelle: Thanks for the info….Good Night!

  56. CW……

    Posting message from Tea Party Express.
    Five TPE principles:

    * End the Bailouts.

    * Stop Cap and Trade.

    * Stop out of control spending.

    * End the government takeover of Health Care.

    * Stop raising our taxes.

    I’m would like to submitt a 6th item for consideration.

    * Stop the UN Climate Change Accord to New World Economy. BO to sign accord December 2009 (This spells disaster in the making).

  57. Stop the Car…
    Stop the Train…
    Stop the planet…

    I want to get off!

  58. Old Salt

    You still here ?..

    I found two 1890 dates and names CT . died , 1978, 1979 , what are you looking for.?

    two names ….. 042- 68- xxxx

  59. Just saw this on a Chinese language website. Chinese merchants are getting ready to welcome Obama’s visit to China by selling T shirts featuring Obama wearing the PLA uniform with Mao’s quote “Serve the People” underneath. It is apparently a simple replacement of Mao’s face with Obama’s and the name is also changed to Oba Mao.
    Go to the link to see the photos:
    http://news.wenxuecity.com/messages/200910/news-gb2312-942484.html

  60. Is anyone here? This is important.

  61. Of anyone is here, please go to Orly Taitz site.. new.. Another Obama BC.. I am unable to open any of the files.. If you can, come back and post on what is on the 2 emails, please

  62. Steady Drip has it posted but no certificate number, so I am a bit skeptical. Remember, ANY alterations will void the certificate…..

  63. I have to admit that I am fearful of visiting orly’s site. Not sure what to make of hackers messing with her site, so I just stay away.

  64. ok ty both

  65. I could not find any William Blaine Law anywhere

  66. There is no seal on it

  67. WoW that’s really a stupid hoax , Kenyan birth certificate issued by Hawaii………

    It’s no wonder they didn’t finish that thing……LOL

  68. It shows Anns mother as having registered it as Obama having been born in Kenya . It is just a COLB, not vault BC

  69. I hope Orly gets it checked out before filing it

  70. Hey Beck we got another Soetoro comrad , put him in the line up,,,,,,

    Another Obama Czar Ron Bloom Agrees With Mao – Also Thinks Free Market is ‘Nonsense’

    http://www.breitbart.tv/obama-czar-agrees-with-mao-too-and-thinks-free-market-is-nonsense/#comments

  71. @John Charlton:

    That is a very interesting possibility. I’m not sure what to make of it at this point to be honest.

    The phrase “Obama’s alleged birth” really made me laugh very hard. It almost implies that he arrived on earth via some other method…I think I’ve stayed up way too late.

  72. Jacqlyn Smith

    From Orly’s site….anyone and everyone who can….please help!!

    Important, help in research needed

    Posted on | October 19, 2009 | 7 Comments

    I am trying to ascertain what happened to this individual, who was born in 1890 in CT, received his ss number in CT between 1977-1979 (probably he needed it for some ss benefits or medicaid benefits in his older age) , and whose ss Obama used most of his life.

    We already know that another ss Obama used 485-40-5154 was issued in IA to Lucille Ballantyne, born 12.22.1912, deceased 09.13.1998. Last residence was at 50140 Lamoni, Decatar, IA. Does anyone know where did she die, how?

    I am deeply concerned, what happened to the person whose ss Obama used in MA, Chicago and currently using in DC? This person (could have been a man or woman) was born in 1890 and would’ve been 119 years old today. Since we don’t know of any 119 y.olds in this country, it is safe to assume this person is deceased. I am greatly alarmed, why isn’t he noted as deceased in the National databases. Why is Obama using his ss with such unbelievable arrogance? Does he know how this person died? Is he sure for some reason that no one will be reporting his death today or tomorrow?

    I need more info on other deaths:

    1. death of Renee Abima Obama – 3 months old, birth and death were reported in Springfield MD. Was there a doctor in ATTENDENCE, who reported her death? Coroner?

    2. Was there any doctor, who recorded death of Madelyn Payne Dunham? Is there a coroner’s report?

    3.Was there a doctor present when Stanley Ann Dunham died? Is there a death certificate signed by a doctor in attendance? coroner’s report?

  73. Jacqlyn Smith

    More from Orly’s site…….

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    *HOT – Siddharth Velamoor – college resume & relationship with Perkins Coie *
    Monday, October 19, 2009 12:02 PM

    To:
    “Orly Taitz”

    Orly,

    Now WHY would Siddharth Velamoor — who just was hired as a clerk for Judge Carter in October and
    is coincidentally a partner with Perkins Coie LLP (general counsel for Obama & the DNC) — show attendance at different colleges?First, is the judge even aware of this relationship with Perkins Coie? He may not …

    Second, I suspect there are inconsistencies with Velamoor’s resume when he applied with Judge Carter for this one-year term:

    http://pview.findlaw.com/view/4073288_1?channel=CCC
    Education:
    Comenius University School of Law, Bratislava, Slovakia, 2008, J.D. Honors: Harlan Fiske Stone Scholar
    London School of Economics and Political Science, 2005 M.Sc.
    Dartmouth College, 2004, A.B.

    -VS-

    http://www.martindale.com/Siddharth-Velamoor/33735949-lawyer.htm
    Education:
    Columbia University, J.D.
    Dartmouth College, A.B.
    It appears Velamoor may have been a Foreign Exchange Student either from or through Columbia — Obama’s alma mater. Did he report this to the Judge on his resume?

    Additionally…
    Some researchers believe that Obama was in a Foreign Exchange Program at Columbia — which explains why Obama is restricting access to his college records, and why few remember him at Columbia University …

    Hmmm…

    BTW, changing Wiki Page:
    OLD: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=David_O._Carter&direction=prev&oldid=320420753 (Sept 19, 2009)
    CURRENT: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:David_O._Carter (Oct 17, 2009)

    Dubious reason for change: Law clerk is under attack

    Seeing this: [1] I have decided to delete the entire chapter. There are dangerous people up there, with guns. We do not want any people threatened or killed. Please discuss if you think otherwise.—Paul Pieniezny (talk) 16:15, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

    Paul Pieniezny (talk | contribs) at 16:16, 17 October 2009

    Answer

    I don’t know if anyone reported this to judge Carter. Can someone check if there are multiple addresses and SS numbers for this person as well.

  74. zachjonesishome

    Good Morning everyone. Zach

  75. Good morning Zach.

  76. Another Birth Certificate Surfaces

    This “Certificate of Live Birth,” has been circulating on the net in the last couple hours. It shows Barack Obama as being born in “Kenya, Africa.” Attorney Mario Apuzzo and Charles Kerchner both believe it is a forgery and a fraud — probably created by Obots to get our side scurrying around.

    The reason they think it is a fraud is because the Hawaiian statute cited in the lower right corner as the version with the “.8” amendment on the end, i.e., 338.17.8 did not exist in 1961. It was added in 1982.

    That jumped out at them right away. 338.17.8 did not apply to Obama in 1961 because it did not exist in the law books yet. But the registration of out of state children was permitted in 1961 under older laws such as the one in 1911 and another in 1955.

    Since this document cites 338.17.8 it cannot be the initial or original birth registration document.

  77. Jacqlyn Smith

    Hey Zach….Hey CW…..

    I attended the Dina Titus Health Care Forum last night in Henderson…..what a joke…..most of the folks there were against the health reform being put on the table…she was booed several times and called a liar many times also.

    I sat with two veterans on my left but on my right was a LIBERAL moron who kept calling me names and telling me to shut up…typical a-hole….trying to get me to stop telling the truth. When Titus tried to blame the job crisis and economy as inherited from the previous administration the place went nuts and told her to get off of it and start owning up to the problems they have created….of course nothing was accomplished but it was still GREAT FUN irritating the LIBERAL TRAITORS there.

    I approached one of her staffers from DC and said the next time they should have a real debate….TITUS and ENSIGN…let’s get both sides of the story instead of the lies and half truths being promoted by the DemoCraps at true…..I also said that none of this CRAP matters until the FRAUD in our HOUSE shows he is a legal POTUS….the staffer actually agreed with me…so he said…but then a eaves dropper BUTTED in and said he was born in this country and he is legal…..to which I said…..doesn’t matter where he was born….he is still not a legal POTUS and I have my doubts as well that he was really born in Hawaii….then I asked for the proof and he said it was already proven….I then said so you were at his birth and you saw him being born…..to which he said he was…..I laughed in his STUPID face and said YEAH RIGHT…..!!!!

    All in all I have to credit Titus for getting up in front of an unfriendly crowd and trying to put up a good front….however it was evident to me that more than 55% of the country does not want any bill coming out of Congress or the Senate that allows our health care to be tampered with…..especially if it is revamping the entire system for 10% of the population!!

  78. Hannity: Obama Administration Is “Scared” of Fox News

  79. Thanks Jacqlyn.
    Would you like to add any details and make it a report to be posted?

  80. 5 days after the Post & Email outed Google for scrubbing their Newspaper Archive, they have sabatoged it completely with a new algorithm

    http://thepostnemail.wordpress.com/2009/10/20/google-news-archive-rearranges-history-for-obama/

  81. Quote from Tim Phillips of Americans for Prosperity:

    “So, that means folks like Rachel Maddow, Speaker Pelosi, Majority Leader Harry Reid, the big labor unions, and all their friends are going to drop the issues debate and focus their fire on discrediting us with personal attacks.We should be encouraged by this turn of events. Their attacks mean we are winning with the American people.

    We are winning… I cannot tell you how many times I heard those words from the lips of thse speaking at the Defending the American Dream Summit. But we have to believe that we are! Also you have to feel that we are. You have ot feel it deep inside your mind, heart, and soul. That is what we felt at the Washington DC 9/12 Rally. Mean you just wanted to just capture it. Place it in a bottle. You did not want to leave that lawn of the Capitol. It was the most incredible feeling you ever wanted to feel.

    Now we just have to believe and spread this fire inside others… But how do we do it now?”

    This was on that website LM posted earlier:

    http://patriotsforamerica.ning.com/profiles/blogs/my-plea-to-everyone-in-this

  82. LM,

    Thanks for the vid. The war is on. Repubs, Dems, Indies against the far left. And this is coming from the top! It’ll be interesting spectator sports for a while, until it gets serious.

  83. http://www.oilforimmigration.org/
    Read the connection,could this be why?

  84. zachjonesishome

    Jacqlyn Smith // October 20, 2009 at 7:58 am (edit)

    Hey Zach….Hey CW…..

    I attended the Dina Titus Health Care Forum last night

    Great work Jacqlyn!

  85. Jacqlyn Smith

    #

    citizenwells // October 20, 2009 at 8:04 am

    Thanks Jacqlyn.
    Would you like to add any details and make it a report to be posted?
    ****************************************

    You mean the details that she lied about…..I didn’t really write anything down as it was just the same rhetoric…..she did go on the record to say her biggest concern was how it will be paid for and she insisted many times that this is very much still in debate and will take a long time to work out….she has some bill she has introduced into Congress to not allow raising Medicare costs on Seniors since they are not getting a cost of living raise on their Social Security…most of the time I was busy with the moron on my left trying to silence me….if you know what I mean. No fights broke out even though I was tempted to slap the guy in his face!!

  86. Patriot Dreamer

    GBAmerica // October 20, 2009 at 8:23 am

    Do we trust “casper”?

  87. Jacqlyn Smith

    I just saw this in RJ concerning REID….it was written in Sept….first I hear about it!!!

    Titus said something about Nevada getting special treatment!!

    Found at….

    http://www.lvrj.com/news/reid-pursues-bill-changes-to-aid-nevada-60602142.html

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Reid pursues bill changes to aid Nevada

    By BENJAMIN SPILLMAN
    LAS VEGAS REVIEW-JOURNAL
    More Info

    * Health Care Reform

    Changes to a health care reform bill in the U.S. Senate increased to $2.3 billion the extra money that would assist low-income residents in Nevada.

    That is the word from Sen. Harry Reid, D-Nev., who sought changes to a proposal from Sen. Max Baucus, D-Mont. The changes would provide more health care help for Nevadans without dipping into the state’s budget at least temporarily.

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    Under changes made by the Senate Finance Committee, Nevada would be one of four states to be reimbursed 100 percent by the federal government over five years for the cost of increasing the number of people eligible for Medicaid.

    After five years, the federal government would pay 82.3 percent of the cost to provide care to the newly eligible people. Nevada would pay 17.7 percent, said sources who worked on the legislation.

    “I promised the people of Nevada that I wouldn’t support any health insurance reform proposal that wasn’t good for our state, and I meant it,” Reid said in a statement.

    An earlier version of the bill would have required states to increase the percentage rate they pay for Medicaid. Reid said that was unacceptable and sought changes to shield Nevada from such an increase.

    The five-year period of eligibility expansion would span 2014-19. The $2.3 billion would be on top of the projected $7.6 billion the state expects to spend on Medicaid over 10 years, which the federal government is set to match.

    The state would have to put up an estimated $201 million in matching funds to access the $2.3 billion. But with $77 million in savings elsewhere in the legislation, the true cost to Nevada would be $124 million.

    Reid had expressed concern earlier that Baucus’ proposal to expand access to Medicaid was untenable if it required cash-strapped states such as Nevada to help pay to provide care to people who were not previously eligible.

    But even picking up 100 percent of the cost to expand Medicare eligibility from 2014-19 might not be enough for Gov. Jim Gibbons, who, with legislators, is facing a $2.4 billion gap between projected revenue and projected expenses by 2011.

    “If it is a federal government mandate, the federal government should pay for it,” Gibbons spokesman Dan Burns said. “Time limits are a smoke screen.”

    Burns complimented Reid for pressing for changes that would bring more health care money to Nevada. But Burns said the state might not be able to kick in its own money for 2019 and beyond.

    “The state general fund is in serious trouble. We are not in a position to say, ‘Yes, we can match X percent,'” he said.

    More light was shed Tuesday on other Senate health care reform plans in the works.

    A spokeswoman for the Nevada Cancer Institute said an amendment by Sens. Debbie Stabenow, D-Mich., and Robert Menendez, D-N.J., that is supported by Reid would change the way the Summerlin-based institute is reimbursed through Medicare.

    The amendment covers a few cancer centers nationwide, including the Nevada Cancer Institute.

    It would allow the institute to be reimbursed based on the actual cost of treating Medicare patients, as opposed to applying pre-set reimbursements.

    Adding the Nevada Cancer Institute to the exemption program, which has existed for decades, will allow the nonprofit center to put more money back into research and care, Jennifer McDonnell said. The exemption is needed because the institute treats only cancer patients and does not have revenue streams typical hospitals use to recoup costs, she said.

    “It just broadens the therapies we are able to bring to Nevada,” McDonnell said.

    Contact reporter Benjamin Spillman at bspillman@reviewjournal.com or 702-477-3861.

  88. Patriot Dreamer

    Jacqlyn, thanks for your report.

    Zach, I hope you can share some of your thoughts from the Dina Titus Health Care Forum when you get the chance.

  89. Good morning all.

    I see … another day … another Birth certificate!

    OLDSALT: Can you take a look at John Charlton’s post @ 2:53. In the article it describes the type of copier they believed was used to produce the “new BC” . I know you’re the paper / printer expert here. What do you think of it?

  90. PD @ 8:52,

    I was wondering the same thing. Isn’t “Casper” the one that may have been writing the threats to Orly?

    I remember the name ‘casper’ was being discussed here a couple of days ago. Was it about Orly, or something else?

  91. Patriot Dreamer

    Val, I knew I recognized “casper” from our recent discussions ( and not in a good way). Is this “casper” the same as the other “casper”?

  92. zachjonesishome

    Patriot Dreamer. I was not there. I was praising Jacqlyn’s participation. Zach

  93. Jacqlyn Smith

    Great editorial in the Las Vegas Review Journal…..

    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    EDITORIAL: ‘Government has never created a job’

    Steve Wynn offers TV audience a dose of economic reality

    Appearing as the lone representative of the private sector on the morning talk show “Fox News Sunday,” Steve Wynn, chairman and chief executive officer of Wynn Resorts, sparred with Michigan Gov. Jennifer Granholm and Democratic economist Mark Zandi on the proper role of government in forging a stable recovery.

    Unemployment rose to 9.8 percent nationally in September, the highest rate since 1983, and likely will climb for eight more months, peaking at 10.5 percent next summer. Layoffs, bankruptcies, and business closures continue to make headlines. Yet Mr. Zandi, who helped Washington’s majority party write last winter’s “stimulus” bill, insisted to host Chris Wallace that the recession “is over.”

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    “Ten-point-five percent is a very reasonable expectation for the peak in unemployment, but I think it would be measurably higher if not for the stimulus package,” Mr. Zandi explained for the benefit of simple-minded viewers who believe a “recovery” should involve getting people back to work. “The stimulus, in my view, is working. It’s just gotten overwhelmed by the magnitude of the economic crisis. … The idea behind the stimulus was to bring an end to the recession, to provide a catalyst for future growth and then to let the private sector take over, and it’s done exactly that,” bragged the co-founder of Moody’s Economy.com.

    “The recession is over. It’s no accident that the recession has ended when the stimulus is providing its maximum economic benefit.”

    Ah. So the private sector has now taken back control of General Motors from the White House and Mr. Obama’s union favorites? Factories are re-opening? Insolvent banks, no matter their size, have now been allowed to fail? All-new private bankers — unrelated to the gang from Goldman Sachs or the Federal Reserve Bank of New York who’ve been running the Treasury for decades, regardless of the party in power — have bought up remaining good assets at auction, meaning no more bailout or inflationary “stimulus” schemes will be needed?

    Indiana Gov. Mitch Daniels disagreed, saying the stimulus has not yielded the benefits it advertised months ago.

    “It’s coming very slowly, if at all,” the Republican said.” “The stimulus, I … don’t think you can point to much effect so far.”

    The biggest bubble of the past decade — even considering home prices — may well have been the unsustainable growth in the size of gold-gilt government bureaucracies. Yet Mr. Zandi expressed pride that current administration policies, especially the stimulus bill’s direct funding of state governments, have managed to prevent any substantial trimming of bureaucracies, at all.

    “Of the $787 billion stimulus package, $300 billion of that was tax cuts to individuals and to businesses, ‘Cash for Clunkers,’ tax credits for home purchases,” Mr. Zandi said. “Almost every state governor would say that they’ve been helped by the stimulus quite significantly. They’d be cutting even more aggressively if not for that.”

    Gov. Granholm, a Democratic attorney who gave up a Hollywood acting career when she turned 21 and served on the Obama presidential transition team, called for more tax incentives to create jobs as well as extending unemployment benefits in her state. (Michigan’s unemployment rate is the highest in the nation at 15.2 percent. Nevada’s is second highest, at 13.2 percent.)

    “It would be good to see another targeted tax policy,” Gov. Granholm told Mr. Wallace, “if you can target tax incentives to job creation and job growth.”

    But what does anyone at the White House or in Congress know about where best to “target” money to create jobs? Where a private investor might consider a coal-fired power plant to be a better investment than some “green” wind farm, government can never resist the temptation to use such subsidies to pick favorites — especially if the favorites are the kind that would never pencil out for private financing in the first place, and are thus doomed to collapse as soon as the government subsidies are removed.

    Mr. Zandi, for instance, made it clear the Democratic administration has no plan to let real estate prices fall to their natural market levels, where private investors would swarm to buy without government price supports.

    “I think the housing market could also use some more help through an extension of the first-time home buyer tax credit into next year to try to keep this recent stability in housing values permanent,” he explained.

    A “stability” that can last only so long as government subsidies flow?

    It was Mr. Wynn who, from his vantage point in the private sector, showed the clearest economic vision Sunday.

    “The priorities of the administration should have been more directly focused on job creation from the day of the inauguration forward,” he said. “That’s the thing that changes America.”

    And the best way for government to promote job growth, Mr. Wynn made clear, is not to “target” pet political projects, but to simply cut taxes, leaving private parties with more resources to invest where they see the best chance for profit.

    “If the government had used its power to restrain its tax collection, they would have given everybody who runs small businesses, large businesses, a chance to hire more people,” explained the man who built The Mirage and Bellagio. “Government has never increased the standard of living of one single human being in civilization’s history.”

    Mr. Wynn, who opened the $2.3 billion Encore at Wynn Las Vegas last December, said he hired 5,000 employees for the resort. And he’s fearful that the current debate in Congress about further expansion of government programs, “a barrage of taxes that will result in more layoffs, that will not be helpful. It’s counterproductive. … Consumer confidence will return when the unemployment rate goes down. …

    “Government has never created a job,” Mr. Wynn said; the only way to improve people’s standard of living is to cut taxes on employers, thus allowing the free market to provide them with jobs.

    The health care debate has delayed any economic fix, Mr. Wynn said — which is certainly true, as Congress extends uncertainty about the future profitability of businesses.

    “Health care is something I know about,” Mr. Wynn said. “It’s a complicated and technical issue. Everybody in this administration has zero experience in dealing with health care. They should be focused on job creation.”

    Amen.

  94. I know this was posted before, but for some reason it was reposted on youtube yesterday. I don’t know if they added anything, I didn’t watch entire video. This reporter is a jerk. It is obvious they are getting scared!

  95. PD,

    I’m not sure if this is the same casper or not. The article on steadydrip shows another writers name under the heading, but I also noticed the story ended with the name casper …? ???

  96. Jacqlyn Smith

    More on Reid and son…..we don’t need either one of them!!

    LETTERS: State doesn’t need a Reid political dynasty

    To the editor:

    Sen. Harry Reid’s 27 years in Congress was a career without achievement, unless you count his pay, pension and personal wealth.

    Nevada could have been represented by a doorknob in Congress, and the effect on Nevadans would have been unchanged.

    Now we have the offspring, Rory Reid, announcing he will attempt to advance his unremarkable career by being a candidate for governor (“Rory Reid: Diversify state economy,” Thursday Review-Journal). “Like father, like son” is a phrase that is bone-chilling in the case of this politically aspiring family.

    Let’s hope that the people of Nevada are smart enough to not burden their state with the creation of a “Reid dynasty” of political ineptitude.

    Gerry Lock

  97. Also on steadydrip, there is an article about John Ziegler. It’s the video that was posted here yesterday about him being asked to leave some function. On the Steadydrip, it’s a 2nd or 3rd part to the JZ video and it says that Att. Gary Kreep asked JZ to leave the event. …..?????

  98. Isn’t Caper the one who came out with the “Obama resigning by noon” articles a few weeks back ?

  99. Patriot Dreamer

    Val // October 20, 2009 at 9:12 am

    OK, I remain wary until I have more information.

  100. Jacqlyn Smith

    More on Reid the HYPOCRITE!!!!

    GLENN COOK: Reid, champion of the filibuster, might nuke it

    If Harry Reid decides to use the Senate’s “reconciliation” process to ram health care legislation through his chamber and crush a filibuster, then he’ll have to reconcile something else: his astounding hypocrisy.

    The majority leader from Nevada is working behind closed doors to merge health care bills passed by the Senate’s health and finance committees. He desperately wants to come up with something that can get 60 votes — the number needed to halt any attempt by minority Republicans to block a final vote on the massive expansion of federal authority.

    Although Reid has 60 votes in his caucus, it might be an impossible task. Moderate Democrats oppose a “public option” that allows the government to sell health insurance and undercut private-sector providers, and far-left Democrats are insisting that any bill include the first step toward nationalized health care.

    So Reid has let it be known that wrangling over the public option might compel him to go with the “nuclear option”: ending a filibuster without 60 votes.

    To do that, Reid would have to use a parliamentary maneuver called “budget reconciliation.” Votes on the federal budget are exempt from filibusters. If he takes this route, Reid would have to pretend the legislation is a simple matter of fiscal housekeeping — a routine issue that needs just 51 votes to pass.

    Given the complexity and controversy surrounding new health insurance mandates and regulations, such an end-around would be unprecedented.

    It also would represent one of the greatest flip-flops in recent memory. Just 41/2 years ago, when he was Senate minority leader, Reid was the undisputed champion of the filibuster, using it time and again to block President George W. Bush’s judicial nominees and the GOP agenda.

    Reid went to his obstructionist playbook so frequently that Republican leadership hatched a plan to abolish the filibuster in the judicial confirmation process.

    The senator used the occasion to channel the founders and articulate some of the most principled, measured rhetoric of his political career.

    “It encourages moderation and consensus,” Reid said in a 2005 floor speech in defense of the filibuster. “It gives voice to the minority, so that cooler heads may prevail.

    “It also separates us from the House of Representatives — where the majority rules. And it is very much in keeping with the spirit of the government established by the framers of our Constitution: limited government, separation of powers, checks and balances. …”

    “The filibuster is a critical tool in keeping the majority in check,” Reid continued. “This central fact has been acknowledged and even praised by senators from both parties. …”

    “The right to extended debate is never more important than when one party controls Congress and the White House. …”

    “Some in this Chamber want to throw out 217 years of Senate history in the quest for absolute power. They want to do away with Mr. Smith coming to Washington. They want to do away with the filibuster. They think they are wiser than our Founding Fathers. I doubt that’s true.”

    Reid said then that preserving the filibuster was the “most important issue I’ve dealt with in my 40 years of public service.”

    Reid won that fight thanks to a compromise brokered by moderate Republican and Democratic senators that allowed some Bush nominees to be confirmed while permitting Reid to continue filibustering at will. He could hardly contain himself upon being allowed to keep his favorite toy.

    “The Senate has worked its will on behalf of reason, responsibility and the greater good,” Reid said on May 24, 2005. “Abuse of power will not be tolerated, and attempts to trample the Constitution and grab absolute control are over.

    “The nuclear option is gone for our lifetime.”

    As Reid has been known to say, that was then and this is now.

    In other words, the filibuster is “a critical tool in keeping the majority in check” when Democrats are in the minority, but it’s a disposable relic when liberals are trying to run up the national debt and regulate our economy to death.

    That Reid has given this possibility even a moment’s thought shows how little he values his own word.

    There’s no splitting this particular hair. You can’t support using the filibuster when it suits your interests, then get rid of it when it doesn’t. And if the ability to filibuster a handful of appellate court nominees is a hill to die for, then surely it’s worth preserving when one party is attempting to remake one-sixth of the country’s economy.

    Perhaps Reid won’t need to resort to reconciliation after he introduces his consolidated bill next week. Perhaps he’ll be able to get the votes of Sens. Olympia Snowe and Susan Collins, R-Maine, along with some of his own party’s pesky Blue Dogs.

    But if he decides to take the filibuster out back and shoot it, he risks incurring even more wrath from Nevada voters, who already are growing tired of his expedience and pandering to the far left. A Review-Journal poll conducted this month found 54 percent of registered Nevada voters don’t want Reid to use reconciliation to pass sweeping health insurance regulations. Only 32 percent approve of the tactic.

    “If he does that, he is resigning himself to not being re-elected (in 2010),” said Brad Coker of Mason-Dixon Polling & Research Inc., which conducted the poll.

    If he does that, no amount of explaining, no amount of convenient forgetting will save Hypocrite Harry.

  101. Blue States and Obamacare- pay backs.

    http://www.collinsreport.net/

  102. Patriot Dreamer

    zachjonesishome // October 20, 2009 at 9:08 am

    Zach, oops! I misinterpreted what you wrote. Sorry about that!

  103. Patriot Dreamer

    Prairie // October 20, 2009 at 9:23 am

    Isn’t Oregon one of the states with universal health care? Interesting that it’s one of the states getting a “payback”.

  104. That new so-called Hawaiian birth certificate is a fake also because of the address, which was already debunked because they never lived at that address. It’s the same address as the bogus birth announcement. Also, “African” was used and that was not used in the 60’s. I also believe some obots made that up just as they made up the certification of live birth fake document.

  105. I read articles by Don Nicoloff; detailing many pictures of aka Obama convinced even me that they were photoshopped and a poor job at that.
    I had already felt that way with the pic of Soetoro on the bench…..just too obvious with the spacial aspects off and size in relation to each other really off.
    We’re so screwed!!

  106. Jacqlyn Smith

    This is great….found at…..

    http://www.tothepointnews.com/content/view/3546/85/

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    PROPOSED DIVORCE AND SEPARATION AGREEMENT Print E-mail
    Written by John J. Wall
    Friday, 13 March 2009

    Dear American Liberals, Leftists, Social Progressives, Socialists, Marxists, and Obama Supporters, et al:

    As a law student, I have drawn up a divorce & separation agreement on behalf of my fellow Conservative Americans and you.

    We have stuck together since the late 1950’s, but the whole of this latest election process has made me realize that I want a divorce. I know, we tolerated each other for many years for the sake of future generations, but, sadly, this relationship has run its course.

    Our two ideological sides of America cannot, and will not ever agree on what is right, so let’s just end it on friendly terms. We can smile, chalk it up to irreconcilable differences, and go our own way.

    Here is a model separation agreement:

    Our two groups can equitably divide up the country by landmass each taking a portion. That will be the difficult part, but I am sure our two sides can come to a friendly agreement. After that it should be relatively easy! Our respective representatives can effortlessly divide other assets since both sides have such distinct and disparate tastes.

    We don’t like redistributive taxes so you can keep them. You are welcome to the liberal judges and the ACLU. Since you hate guns and war, we’ll take our firearms, the cops, the NRA, and the military.

    You can keep Oprah, Michael Moore, and Rosie O’Donnell (You are, however, responsible for finding a bio-diesel vehicle big enough to move all three of them).

    We’ll keep the capitalism, greedy corporations, pharmaceutical companies, Wal-Mart, and Wall Street. You can have your beloved homeless, homeboys, hippies, and illegal aliens. We’ll keep the hot Alaskan hockey moms, greedy CEO’s, and rednecks.

    We’ll keep the Bibles and give you NBC, the New York Times, and Hollywood.

    You can make nice with Iran and Palestine and we’ll retain the right to invade and hammer places that threaten us. You can have the peaceniks, and war protesters. When our allies or our way of life are under assault, we’ll help provide them security.

    We’ll keep our Judeo-Christian values. You are welcome to Islam, Scientology, Humanism, and Shirley McClain. You can also have the U.N. But we will no longer be paying the bill.

    We’ll keep the SUVs, pickup trucks, and oversized luxury cars. You can take every Subaru station wagon you can find.

    You can give everyone healthcare, if you can find any practicing doctors. We’ll continue to believe healthcare is a luxury and not a right.

    We’ll keep The Battle Hymn of the Republic and the National Anthem. I’m sure you’ll be happy to substitute Imagine, I’d Like to Teach the World to Sing, Kum Ba Ya, or We Are the World.

    We’ll practice trickle down economics, and you can give trickle up poverty your best shot. Since it often so offends you we’ll keep our history, our name, and our flag.

    Would you agree to this? If so, in the spirit of friendly parting, I’ll bet you ANWAR which one of us will need whose help in 15 years.

    Sincerely,

    John J. Wall
    Las Student, Washington University, St. Louis, Missouri

    Ps: Also, please take Barbra Streisand and Jane Fonda

  107. speedy… I thought I read that was where the grandparents lived at that time, but that Ann never lived there (or Obama sr.. Thats why no biracial couple ever rememberedas living there

  108. maddie // October 19, 2009 at 10:22 pm

    Venice,
    Just to make it clear on the SF speech—
    bo said he” won’t quit” (not that he “would quit”).

    Interesting point here is that: 1. he used the word “quit” referring to himself and 2. the thought that the “idea” may have crossed his brain! 3. Dem doublespeak for the “opposite”

    Hope I’m not making it sound more confusing.
    When I heard him say it he wasn’t smiling and had that tired, glum look on his face imho.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Why would a ‘leader’ of the free world, a ‘leader’ of the greatest country on this earth even bring up the subject of ‘quitting’….quitting what exactly??
    And, then the question must be answered……who has asked him to or suggested this??

  109. Patriot Dreamer

    JeffM, I’m trying to reach you by e-mail, but your mailbox is full.

  110. Patriot Dreamer // October 19, 2009 at 10:35 pm

    Recession hits Hawaii’s public schools (closed on most Fridays through end of academic year):

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091019/ap_on_bi_ge/us_hawaii_school_year
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    By the way, Hawaii, how’s that state-run healthcare going for ya???

  111. ArmyDAV—
    Do you have names for the 1890?
    thanks, Maddie

  112. Patriot Dreamer

    “Sotomayor Says White House Even Picked Out Her Clothes:
    Officials took over her fashion decisions, she says”

    http://www.nbcconnecticut.com/news/politics/Justice-Sotomayor-says-White-House-Left-Nothing-to-Chance-64724512.html

  113. JS,
    Just got off the phone with the Ohio P.I.
    Thanks for posting from Orly’s site. This is
    on target.

  114. Jonah et.al.,
    I know you mentioned you were in
    a key state for some digging, so if you
    would get back with me, great.

  115. Can anyone come up with a list of
    campaign headqtrs. that bo used
    before the election?

  116. Venice, thought you may find this recent Tarpley interview of interest.

    “Al Qaeda itself is a kind of CIA Arab legion created during the Soviet presence in Afghanistan,” he said. “It is an open secret to any regional expert: the Jundallah is controlled and funded by the US and the British.”

  117. Heading out ….

    As far as the address on the ‘new’ bc … I read somewhere that there was supposively an apt behind that address that Stanley Ann possibly lived in …???

    Just saw on FOX that BH approval rating with the Dems on the Healthcare has dropped 15 pts since mid Sept.

    Michelle will be on Leno tonight .. Ugh!
    **************************************
    Every night when I go to bed I lay there and think…. are we living in the Twilight Zone?

  118. Patriot Dreamer

    “Could the Large Hadron Collider be sabotaging itself from the future, as some physicists say”

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/science/biology_evolution/article6879293.ece#

  119. JJ—good questions. As I said after I heard that part of his speech, the word “quit” made me
    jump to attention. That’s when I thought of
    the possibilities of why choose the word “quit” or was it a Freudian slip, does he really want out but doesn’t know how to exit to his benefit.
    Is he looking for an excuse to quit? Is the pressure getting to his possible “addictive” personality. The only high he gets is the campaign-style speeches and whatever.

  120. Patriot Dreamer

    Val, I sometimes wonder if we live in Orwell’s “1984”.

  121. Tuesday, October 20, 2009 Email to a Friend ShareThis.Advertisement
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  122. Patriot Dreamer

    ARMY D.A.V // October 20, 2009 at 3:11 am

    Is this what Ron Bloom’s trying to say?

    should probably read “communism”, though, since Bloom was talking about Mao.

  123. maddie

    Grandma Dunham ( P ) coroner report .
    Stanley A Dunham (v) Family member verified .

    SSN# I have no idea what’s going on .

    There are only two people born in CT 1890 with dates that match 1978- 79. ( 042 – 68 – xxxx , They are both women .

    I don’t like posting names but I sent the link to old salt to look at.

  124. Patriot Dreamer

    Beck should save us some time and just tell us about the ones that are not commies.

  125. #

    maddie // October 20, 2009 at 10:16 am

    JS,
    Just got off the phone with the Ohio P.I.
    Thanks for posting from Orly’s site. This is
    on target.
    ******************************************

    Maddie….What is on target…the SS#’s??? or the clerk info???

  126. Patriot Dreamer

    ARMY D.A.V @ 10:45 am

    😀

  127. JS–both excellent, but emphasis on the
    SS#s. There is another possibility. Tell you
    when I get the stuff.

  128. Jacqlyn Smith // October 20, 2009 at 8:53 am

    I just saw this in RJ concerning REID….it was written in Sept….first I hear about it!!!

    Titus said something about Nevada getting special treatment!!

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    And we’re to believe this because???

  129. Gee…I wonder why…

    Obama to skip anniversary of the Fall of Communism

    http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2009/10/obama_to_skip_anniversary_of_t.html

  130. maddie

    Do you want the link for the two 1890’s that I found?.

  131. Obama abuses faith office to promote his radical agenda

    http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/10/obama_abuses_faith_office_to_p.html

  132. VP Joe Biden: “This Is a Depression. This Is a Depression”

  133. joe biden is an idiot

  134. Maddie-@ 10:18
    I’m still checking for campaign headquarters, but I found this in the meantime. Scroll down and look at the figures-they put me in shock.
    http://www.gwu.edu/~action/2008/cands08/obamamain.html

  135. Patriot Dreamer

    Fox News’ Brit Hume laughs at Glenn Beck’s latest twist on the red phone to Anita Dunn at the White House:

  136. All this welfare assistance speculation in Hawaii, foreign aid tuition, etc……….if aka Obama was truly a grandchild of the Dunhams, then why, with granny being a VP at a bank, and grandpa being a furniture salesman, would he qualify for either??
    All this leads to the theory that he never was a grandson to the Dunham family, and pictures of Ann in her swimsuit, definitely not pregnant, in summer of 1961, speaks for itself.

  137. Da verg,

    And can’t even run a hot dog stand !

  138. Army D. A.V. —

    1890 is more likely to be a DOCUMENT date, not a BIRTHDATE (despite the fact where it is listed on the abstract of an index record.)

    That is why the SSN Verifier MUST be visually verified by the Federal District Court.

  139. Maddie-just so you know North Michigan Ave. is on the ritzier side of Chicago, as opposed to South Side of Chicago. Will check more to see if I can find an address.
    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2055894/posts
    Today’s Washington Post has an bit of a puff piece on the Obama campaign. There were some interesting nuggets like the lede which parallels some discussions we contributors have had offline on the subject:
    CHICAGO — The bustling Obama headquarters on North Michigan Avenue invites comparisons to a start-up, teeming with young people in jeans clutching BlackBerrys as they walk through the halls. Yet in Democratic circles, another, potentially less welcome, parallel is being made: to the tight-knit and tight-lipped organization eight years ago of George W. Bush.
    Decisions are guarded with extreme secrecy, none more so than the upcoming vice presidential selection, and that has occasionally irked members of Congress. In recent days, as Republicans publicly accused Sen. Barack Obama of appearing presumptuous during his presidential-style trip to Europe, Democrats privately expressed concerns that Obama has become too Chicago-centric, relying on his inner circle rather than a broader group that encourages input from Washington and elsewhere

  140. Maddie-Let me know if you need for “digging”
    BARACK OBAMA!
    November 4, 2008
    Campaign Headquarters, 233 N. Michigan Avenue, 11th Floor
    Chicago, Illinois

  141. ‘They Tried to Steal an Election,’ N.Y. Voter Fraud Case Heats Up

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/10/20/tried-steal-election-ny-voter-fraud-case-heats/

  142. Patriot Dreamer,

    Sorry about the email. Give it a try now.

  143. ARMY D.A.V —

    The date that Kenya became a British Protectorate is July 1, 1890, the date of the famous Anglo-German Treaty swapping the Island of Heligoland in the North Sea or the Island of Zanzibar off the coast of Africa.

    It was the controlling legal document for the Kenya Colony and Protectorate until Uhuru (Independence) was granted on December 13, 1963, and a new Constitution was adopted 1 year later.

    Therefore, it would be used for descent to the rights of a British subject in 1961.

    Notice the reflective birthdate: —

    08/04/1961 and 04/08/1961.

    This indicates to me that a British format document is on file with the Social Security Administration.

    This is why the Federal District Court MUST visual verify the contents of this file!

  144. What?

    Justice Says N.C. City Must Have Party Affiliations to Protect Black Voters

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/10/20/justice-says-nc-city-party-affiliations-protect-black-voters/?test=latestnews

  145. Where in the HELL is F.B.I. Director Robert Mueller ?

    Hiding behind bureaucracy, and can’t see the trees from the forest ?

    Even though he has been named in one of (the neutron in a tin can’s lawsuits), he hasn’t been saying anything at all. Too damn quite.

    I’m about stoked enough to outline and copy some information like, Polariks final report, Sandra Lines sworn affidavit, Grandma’s taped confession, Kwelia Shuhubia’s sworn affidavit, along with other items, just to put the Director on notice, that his eye’s have seen the information, via certified mail.

    There’s more than enough doubt and suspicion for this sworn officer of the republic of the United States, to get off his anatomy and simply take a look at what Barry’s hiding from all of us.

    Of Course he can also wait for a big a#% asymmetrical attack, to slam some innocent folks into the abyss, and set this mighty nation back to the eighteenth century.

  146. Bob, Army D.A.V:

    Born 1890 died 1979

    The date that Kenya became a British Protectorate is July 1, 1890.

    Perhaps someone is trying to tell us something.

  147. Would Obama have been elected if he had campaigned on what he has actually done?

    Hope this hasn’t been posted……IT IS AWESOME:

    http://www.eagleforum.org/column/2009/oct09/09-10-16.html

  148. Richard Said:

    Where in the HELL is F.B.I. Director Robert Mueller ?

    This is the same Mueller that stonewalled the BCCI Bank scandal back in 1991 when John Kerry blew the lid on the whole charade.

    http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,973481,00.html

  149. By stonewalled I mean the investigation.

  150. venice: Thanks for the link above. Black is white; left is right; blah blah blah… Just goes to show you how inept this administration is in handling any crisis even the ones they create!

  151. Supreme Court to Hear Case of Uighur Detainees

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/10/20/supreme-court-hear-case-uighur-detainees/?test=latestnews

    Guess these guys have “standing!”

  152. Do you approve of the job Obama is doing?
    Yes
    7% 578 votes
    No
    92% 6945 votes
    I don’t understand why members of the press still say Obama is popular as if he ever was.
    Not for a long time according to Rasmussen. (June 30)

  153. JeffM —

    Susan Daniels is a true American hero! The SSN Verifier in her Affidavit says this to me —

    Stanley Ann Dunham was getting vital records together to Obama’s applications to college.

    She applied for a Social Security number with TWO birth certificates: 1. British, and 1. an American COLB. She used the Anglo-German Treaty to establish that Obama was a ‘DUAL CITIZEN!’

    This would allow him to apply for scholarships as an ‘international student,’ exactly as had his father, Obama, Sr. Why? This is the college funding that Stanley Ann Dunham would know and understand.

    However, he would have to also be a DUAL CITIZEN with KENYA, which is the real reason why she presented the Anglo-German Treaty also.

    This is by far the best evidence available to us of the existence of a Kenyan Birth Certificate, and besides that, it is already in the files of the United States Government, and has been since 1977 to 1979!

    There should be no reason for either the Apuzzo judge or the Taitz judge to order a visual verification of the contents of that file!

    It would seal the case!

  154. Patriot Dreamer

    JeffM // October 20, 2009 at 11:47 am

    OK, I have requested that CW try to send my e-mail to you again.

    Thanks!

  155. Patriot Dreamer

    Bob // October 20, 2009 at 12:20 pm

    Bob, please send this info. on to all concerned.

  156. I keep thinking of those Chrysler dealerships that were put out of business due to political donations made to the Republican party. They killed about 99 per cent of them. Is there a name for after the fact extortion? To me this is criminal theft on a very large scale. The determination was made by one of the czars who had access to donors both Republican and Democrat. No American of any party could be proud of tactics like this. What’s next with this group the gold out of your teeth? The Republicans should make this a gigantic issue in the upcoming elections.

  157. Thanks everyone for the usual fantastic tips.JS you are a HELLCAT!
    I just submitted this to my local freebie paper:

    It was very considerate of the U.N. to persuade President Karzai to hold a runoff election since there were fraudulent votes.Now, Afghanistan can at least project a semblance of not being a feudal state and justify Obama’s sending a contingent of troops to fight for trade routes.Considering the backdrop of current events in that Honduras is now the new beacon of the world in standing up for the rule of law and using the judiciary to remove a drug mule and dictator from power even though our administration backs the drug mule, Zelaya and we see the courage of the interim leader in protecting his people and their country’s Constitution.Also,cluing Americans in on how to preserve the Constitution by pulling illegitimacy up and out by the scruff of the neck.It is sad that the U.N. will not grant the United States the same favor of a run-off seeing that the ACORN-fraud machine affected states across this once mighty nation.The U.N., is, though quite busy regulating the U.S. from afar in such topics as Sharia Law promotion,state-run parenting and global hoaxing of the West to funnel dollars from America’s middle-class to the arms of Sharia-inspired dictators.Thus leaving Americans on the path to the eating of insects and paper fans for cooling. At least in Honduras and even in Iran,they know where their leader hails from and who his parents are. In contrast,American bloggers are tracing their leader into worlds of multiple real estate deals, social security numbers and alias names and a Dept. of Health in Hawaii overthrowing their own Freedom of Information statutes to the lawful right of the public to see requested documents pertaining to their President.The good news my fellow Americans is that Honduras is not far away should you need to flee suddenly.

  158. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2366677/posts
    Obama’s War On Fox A Good Idea ? Approval Index Falls 9 Points In 10 Days
    It is amazing the conclusions the American people come to when the news is actually reported as opposed to the propaganda networks. They deserve to go out of business.

  159. Fox just keep reporting.
    Out Foxed
    Cowboy Confessional ^ | 10/20/2009 | Guy Smith
    Posted on Tuesday, October 20, 2009 12:08:20 PM by guyshomenet
    Will someone give the Obama White House a break? I mean besides ABC, CBS, NBC, PBS, MSNBC, and the Communist News Network.
    On the Sunday talk show circuit, senior and senile Obamatrons implied or outright stated that Fox News was not a news network, lacked journalist credibility and that Rupert Murdoch was a child eating space alien.
    This, of course, backfired. Telling the media not to report a news story is like telling a teenager to not drink, smoke or have sex – it tends to promote what you proscribe.
    Back when newspapers were relevant, politicians routinely said “never pick a fight with a guy who buys ink by the barrel.” The bromide applies to broadcasters to boot.
    But even broadcasters are second tier influencers in the age of the Internet.
    Which brings us back to the Fox News ban. Since Obama believes Fox News will not treat them with (take your pick) kid gloves, deference or divine reverence, they sought to banish them from information flow. This strategy had two primary flaws. First, as noted above, the media isn’t in control of the conversation, they only seed it. So when Obama’s handy henchmen went on every other Sunday talk show (except Fox’s) and spoke derisively of Fox, they attracted the attention of people who then started Internet conversations.
    Note to Barack: If the media is not in control of the message, don’t bother trying to control the media … or the people.

  160. Great analysis found at…

    http://newsrealblog.com/2009/10/20/a-slow-ride-to-socialism/

    Attacking Freedom of the Press – A Slow Ride to Socialism?
    2009 October 20

    by Karen Northon
    asalto-libertad-latuff2

    RANKING members of the Obama Administration have publicly denounced and derided what they see as a major threat to their agenda – FOX News. This ongoing battle between the White House and a cable news outlet is just the latest example of the many dangerous obsessions of Obama’s White House: dangerously skewed priorities, image-obsessed leadership that expresses an ever-growing need for control, and the petty, undignified truth behind their campaign rhetoric of hope and change.

    “When one makes a Revolution, one cannot mark time; one must always go forward – or go back. He who now talks about the ‘freedom of the press’ goes backward, and halts our headlong course towards Socialism.”

    – Vladimir Lenin, Communist Leader of the Soviet Union (1870-1924)

    The White House’s anti-democratic, anti-free press effort to bring down a major news outlet – a move that most pundits agree is a public relations disaster in the making – is being led by (of all people) White House Communications Director Anita Dunn. As a former public relations executive myself, I’m astounded Dunn has made it this far in her career making decisions this idiotic. There was Rahm Emanuel –

    And David Axelrod –

    And let us not forget Chairman Mao loving Anita Dunn herself –

    A columnist with the Baltimore Sun sums up the fracas well –

    Where are their priorities?

    I will take the press critics in the West Wing like Rahm Emanuel and David Axelrod seriously when they condemn MSNBC for the same sins and worse than Fox.

    And I will take this administration more seriously when it starts doing the real work of governing instead of worrying primarily about its image and trying to silence anyone who would be critical of it.

    – David Zurawik, Z on TV

    Although a select few in Norway may see Obama’s rhetoric – mere words, carefully crafted by well-paid speech writers – as worthy of a Nobel Peace Prize (did his speech writers get to share in this Nobel Prize?), I liken it more to a highly successfully advertising campaign worthy of a Clio or an Addy® Award – an attempt to sell Americans a shell of an ideal.

    Buyers’ Remorse

    All too often, products fail to live up to their hype – as do politicians. President Obama has failed to deliver in any meaningful way, shape or form resembling his advertising campaign of Hope and Change.

    The White House’s petty, strong-arm tactics with FOX News are hardly evidence of the new era of bi-partisan American politics repeatedly promised by Candidate Obama. On the contrary, this White House vendetta serves as further indisputable evidence of an administration that is perfectly content to further divide our nation by catering to the sentiments and musings of one segment of our society while openly and brazenly dismissing another.

    Cenk Uygur, host of a low-rated satellite radio show, advertised in his analysis on the Huffington Post the reason why folks just aren’t listening to his show. In his editorial, Uygur declares himself an authority on media bias, labeling various news outlets/shows as either opinion, partisan or straight news.

    Either he refuses to acknowledge, or simply cannot conceive that a subjective concept such as media bias is largely in the eyes/ears of the audience. It certainly cannot be credibly determined by a member of its own ranks.

    But that screaming moment of hubris aside, his greatest affront was not in his lengthy, narrow diatribe on the horrors of biased media, but rather, his anti-democratic perceptions of the relationship between a government and the news media – stated upfront in his headline, “Why the White House is 100% Right to Challenge Fox News.”

    A Threat to Democracy

    The fact that White House leaders like Rahm Emanuel, David Axelrod and Anita Dunn have focused such caustic vitriol on, and had threatened to cut off, a prominent news media outlet is a threat to democracy – not to be taken lightly be any American on the left or right.

    In any free society, the power of the press is evident in its ability to influence national opinion and priorities, serve as watchdog over governments, and spark open, healthy debate over public policy. For this reason, government coups throughout history have always made government control over the news media an immediate priority. It’s a sudden and dramatic take-over supplanting legitimate news with endless propaganda.

    But a sudden and forceful takeover isn’t the only way to gain control of a free press. It can be accomplished slowly, and insidiously; so slowly that many of us may choose to dismiss the warning signs – the proof – preferring to interpret the shift in media control as no more than a reflection of a shift in public opinion. That is a dangerous misinterpretation.

    In a democracy such as ours, it is the role of the news media to gauge the legitimacy of a government. It is NOT the role of a democratic government to assess the legitimacy of the news media. When the government assumes such a role, our democracy has been turned on its head, and our government is no longer accountable to the people.

  161. Jacqlyn Smith

    Magna Carta // October 20, 2009 at 12:32 pm

    Thanks everyone for the usual fantastic tips.JS you are a HELLCAT!

    **********************************************Magna….I am not an official Oath Keeper….but I promise to never give up until this FRAUD is behind bars and we have our Constitution back…..even then…..I will never ever become an apathetic American again…..so help me God and as long as I shall live…..THIS YOU ALL CAN COUNT ON!!!

  162. **** New Post ****

  163. For those interested – VIP interview.

    Pastor Lindsey Williams on Alex Jones show right now telling about his recent phone conversation with a former oil CEO. What’s coming – timeline

    http://www.gcnlive.com/programs/alexJones/
    click on the “on demand” above the photo.

  164. Linda from NY

    Yikes! This guy wants to rewrite the Constitution. I am not sure whether he is talking about “the” Constitution or the Constitution of NYS.

    Message from Rick Lazio

    http://lazio.com/

    Is it fashionable to hide your party affiliation?

  165. Patriot Dreamer

    Linda from NY // October 20, 2009 at 1:09 pm

    Hi Linda, based on context I’m assuming he’s talking about rewriting New York’s state constitution.

    Yes, it does seem to be fashionable to hide party affiliation. I’ve noticed that with a lot of candidate web sites for a while now.

  166. Linda from NY

    Do you think pp could run for King of Kenya?

    Former nurse’s aide in US becomes Ugandan king

    http://www.rr.com/news/topic/article/rr/9002/9258943/Former_nurses_aide_in_US_becomes_Ugandan_king

  167. Linda from NY

    Patriot Dreamer: Thanks for your opinion; I thought so, too, but just had to ask.

    Not sure, but think this guy may be a Dem; key was his reference to “change,” a buzzword for the Dems lately, but it does not matter because there is no need to re-write the NYS Constitution evah IMHO!

  168. Bob, Where would one file a FOIA form to see the application of a scholarship?

  169. Linda from NY

    Bob: Thanks for that great information. Sounds logical and hopeful.

    Greg Goss: Great question. One would think grant and scholarship information would come under FOIA. Sure hope so.

  170. Patriot Dreamer

    Linda, I just looked him up. Looks like he’s a Republican.

  171. Linda from NY

    Patriot Dreamer: Thanks for the info. Not good. He’s got some far out ideas IMHO. Guess not all Republicans are created equal.

    Hopefully, they will put up some better candidates than him.

  172. Yes, ArmyDAV– I would like the link
    you used. Thanks very much, Maddie.

  173. As for the latest fake Obama BC: Our online community is getting really quick about exposing such hoaxes. This one was exposed in just over an hour.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    comment on SS#:
    I don’t know how this directly applies but FYI our own intelligence operatives have a block of SS#s set aside for their use as part of their “cover”. These are authentic numbers that will check out as being issued to the operative.

    For instance, when I became inactive I was assigned a new SS#. You should have seen the consternation on the faces of the SS representative when this 65 year old man applied for SS with a SS# that was issued in 1987. So any SS# issued to one of our own will check out as authentic.

    Foreign intelligence operatives can’t get authentic SS# so they do searches for SS#s of deceased, self employed, or low income individuals to assign to their operatives.

    If a SS# comes up as belonging to a dead person or if the SS# is stolen one of the options to be investigated is; is this person a foreign operative?

    Foreign operatives are often assigned more than one illegitimate SS#. When I saw that there were several SS#s assigned to Stanley Ann Dunham after the original number was assigned when she was a teenager I became suspicious that she was a foreign agent. These numbers are assigned to foreign agents by their handlers even if the agent is not yet activated.

    I am not saying that Obama and his mother are foreign agents. I am saying that using illegitimate SS3 is one of the indicators of a person being a foreign agent.

    Lots of people use illegitimate SS#s for all kinds of reasons. However, in the intelligence community using a fake, or multiple, SS#s is a red flag indicating that that person certainly isn’t one of our own no mater what else they might be.

  174. Just an FYI for all who may remember the idiot in Calgary that was emailing Orly. His IP has been totally inactive since that day it was revealed…

  175. Let’s discuss the real way to get the attention of the federal government regarding the illegality of the 2008 primaries, shall we?

    I’ve been following jbjd’s complaints for some time. She has the right idea, but it’s incredibly inefficient and has some inadequacies. Let’s trim things up a little and get this ball rolling in the right direction.

    Here are some important facts:

    1. There is virtually no state that has enacted law stating how any candidate is vetted
    2. There is no state that has enacted law stating how a party organization is audited for proper vetting
    3. The term “natives” and “natural-born citizens” are interchangeable as per de Vattel’s Law of Nations
    4. There is only one place you need to file a formal complaint: Your local Federal District Court. It says so in USC T2, Ch. 14, Sc 1 §437h:

    http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode02/usc_sec_02_00000437—h000-.html

    5. US Code also says that only “eligible candidates” can receive federal funding:

    http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode26/usc_sec_26_00009004—-000-.html

    6. The fraud jbjd is mentioning is covered in USC T26,ST h., Ch. 96, Part 2 which states all candidates must be qualified by the states to receive federal campaign dollars. There is no need to go state to state:

    http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode26/usc_sec_26_00009032—-000-.html

    This is of particular interest because it says the DnC cannot qualify candidates on behalf of the candidate unless the state allows it. Only the candidate can qualify himself and He i ultimately responsible. If he didn’t do so, he’s in violation of this Act. If the candidate didn’t provide ample evidence of being qualified, he’s not. So yes, the DnC and RnC have been illegally vetting candidates since 1973 in any state that does not grant explicit permission to the party to ensure the candidate is qualified.
    7. What this means is the DnC and RnC both received campaign funding granted by the federal government’s Federal Election Campaign Act (c. 1973) illegally.

    <<<>>>

    Now we have a case of federal election fraud that cannot be ignored and is plain as the nose on our faces. No one yet has sufficiently proven that the DnC, RnC, and SoS of each state did not fully qualify Soetoro because quite frankly, they are not authorized under Federal election law to do so on his behalf unless the state authorizes it. And even then, the candidate is responsible for ensuring all state guidelines are met to receive campaign funds.

    Go this route and the law entitles judicial review, bypassing the office of the U.S. Attorney General for permission. But you have to be a registered voter. You can file this at any federal court in your jurisdiction.

  176. Jacqlyn Smith

    JeffM // October 20, 2009 at 3:27 pm

    Let’s discuss the real way to get the attention of the federal government regarding the illegality of the 2008 primaries, shall we?

    I’ve been following jbjd’s complaints for some time. She has the right idea, but it’s incredibly inefficient and has some inadequacies. Let’s trim things up a little and get this ball rolling in the right direction.

    ******************************************

    Ok Jeff…this makes sense…..what do we file and where can we get the complaint….are you saying we can use jbjd’s…..that’s if she approves it and gets the credit??? Please clarify! 🙂 🙂 🙂

  177. JeffM said

    5. US Code also says that only “eligible candidates” can receive federal funding:

    Obama did not take the matching funds. And he knew that he would not be able to withstand the scrutiny that would have brought..

  178. JeffM // October 20, 2009 at 3:27 pm

    Let’s discuss the real way to get the attention of the federal government regarding the illegality of the 2008 primaries, shall we?
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    I have been saying that we need a full spectrum effort; grassroots protest, blogger, high profile Citizen Grand Juries, secret Citizen Grand Juries, conventional local grand juries, and Federal Grand Juries.

    I have been working with a nationally known lawyer on some of these project. (black op for now)

    I will share your comment with him and advise later.

    Thanks.

    ATH

  179. Jacqlyn Smith,

    I’m not 100% certain what to do yet. I do know that there is some question as to the Constitutionality of the Election Act of 1973 re. campaign fund eligibility.

    If the Act has violated the Constitution (which I believe it has) we file a request for declaratory judgement. What we would say here is something along the lines of “Act fails to enforce Article II requirements by being dependent on State statutes for ballot eligibility, which causes a barrier to entry for candidates normally qualified under the U.S. Constitution”.

    If the Act is found Constitutional, we file the formal complaint with the Election Commission.

    At this point I’m suggesting a two prong attack. File request for declaratory judgement and a complaint with the FEC.

  180. Greg Goss said:

    Obama did not take the matching funds. And he knew that he would not be able to withstand the scrutiny that would have brought..

    True. However his buddy Biden took funds and they were on the same ticket.

  181. I did some more research on this. Just because Soetoro didn’t accept a penny from the fund, the Campaign Act still applies along with all the statutes.

    They thought because they didn’t take money from the Government meant they were excempt from its law. How wrong they are.

  182. just wondering

    Old Salt, DAV & Maddie,
    I have ben trying to keep u with you and the ss# of the 1890 person because I live in the state and could sleuth some. I can only download this list of comments and read it once a day, so I don’t get to post much, but would love to help. I saw that the Death index search peoples #’s do not jibe with the number you thought it was yesterday…can you explain? Are we onto the right people? If so I can head to the town hall and see what I can find out. Please respond with any specifics that you would like.

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