Obama birth certificate conclusion, Obama and Ted Cruz natural born citizen status, Obama and Cruz eligibility, No document presented to prove US birth, Obama and media lies never end, Some patriots spoke out
“Why has Obama, since taking the White House, used Justice Department Attorneys, at taxpayer expense, to avoid presenting a legitimate birth certificate and college records?”…Citizen Wells
“Moore said he’s seen no convincing evidence that Obama is a “natural born citizen” and a lot of evidence that suggests he is not.”…Judge Roy Moore interview by WND
“We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.”…Abraham Lincoln
Proof of US birth not birth recorded is the issue.
With all due respect to the Arpaio Zullo investigation and analysis and commentary from others, it does not matter whether or not the image placed on WhiteHouse.gov, purported to be Obama’s birth certificate, is legitimate or not.
The state of Hawaii may consider this format legal to represent registration of birth in Hawaii.
If it is 100% legitimate and from the state of Hawaii, it still does not prove US birth.
1. It is not a copy of a birth certificate of that year stamped/embossed to prove it is a certified copy.
2. It is a computer generated document with data alleged to be pulled from databases. The verbage at the bottom states “or abstract.”
3. The words “or abstract” will disqualify the image in a court of law as proof positive of a Hawaii birth for Obama. Why? Because per Hawaii law ( check it for yourself ) you can be born elsewhere and have your birth data recorded in Hawaii just as if you were born there.
The lies emanating from the Obama camp and media made “1984” look amateurish.
Many patriots did speak out about the birth certificate, other Obama records and Obama’s natural born citizen deficiencies.
CDR Charles Kerchner filed his first lawsuit challenging Obama’s eligibility on January 20, 2009 prior to the inauguration.
Even though the main position of the lawsuit was Obama’s natural born citizen deficiency due to not having 2 US citizen parents, he included the following:
“Endnotes”
“7. From Hawaii’s official Department of Health, Vital Records webpage: “Amended certificates of birth may be prepared and filed with the Department of Health, as provided by law, for 1) a person born in Hawaii who already has a birth certificate filed with the Department of Health or 2) a person born in a foreign country” (applies to adopted children). A parent may register an in-state birth in lieu of certification by a hospital of birth under HRS 338-5. Hawaiian law expressly provides for registration of out-of-state births under HRS 338-17.8. A foreign birth presumably would have been recorded by the
American consular of the country of birth, and presumably that would be reflected on the Hawaiian birth certificate. Hawaiian law, however, expressly acknowledges that its system is subject to error. See, for example, HRS 338-17. Hawaiian law expressly provides for verification in lieu of certified copy of a birth certificate under HRS 338-14.3. Even the Hawaii Department of Home Lands does not accept a certification of live birth (COLB) as conclusive evidence for its homestead program. From its web site: “In order to process your application, DHHL utilizes information that is found only on the
original Certificate of Live Birth, which is either black or green. This is a more complete record of your birth than the Certification of Live Birth (a computer-generated printout).
Submitting the original Certificate of Live Birth will save you time and money since the computer-generated Certification requires additional verification by DHHL.””
Here are some articles from Citizen Wells that explain this more in detail.
From Citizen News.
“Obama birth certificate facts and lies, History prior to WhiteHouse.gov image”
“My first article about anything purported to be a birth certificate for Barack Obama was on August 8, 2008. It was about allegations that the COLB, Certification of Live Birth, was fake.
Obama did not present this, it was just placed on a few websites.
We later learned that it did not matter if it was fake or authentic.
Why?
Because a generated birth certificate like the COLB does not prove Hawaiian or US birth.
Why?
Because you do not have to be born in Hawaii to have your birth registered there and at the time of Obama’s birth, there were 4 ways to get it done.
From Western Journalism June 10, 2009.
“I think that I now understand the legal background to the question of where Obama was born.
Let’s begin with the statement that Dr. Chiyome Fukino, the Director of the Hawaii Department of Health released on October 31, 2008. The television and print media used this statement as a reason to prevent and treat with contempt any investigation into whether Barack Obama was not born in Hawaii. But the language of the statement was so carefully hedged and guarded that it should have had the opposite effect.
“There have been numerous requests for Sen. Barack Hussein Obama’s official birth certificate. State law (Hawai‘i Revised Statutes §338-18) prohibits the release of a certified birth certificate to persons who do not have a tangible interest in the vital record. Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.”
It is understandable that after such an apparently definitive statement most news outlets, whether conservative or liberal, would accept this as sufficient grounds to relegate the controversy to the status of a fringe phenomenon. Unless they happened to take the trouble to look into the “state policies and procedures” as laid down by the relevant statutes. If they had done so, they would have seen that Dr. Fukino’s press release was carefully hedged and “lawyered” and practically worthless. But the media in general should not be faulted. The statement seems to roll out with such bureaucratic certainty and final authority. I believed it to be significant until a Honolulu attorney mailed me the relevant statutes. I was so surprised that I laughed out loud.
Here is a summary of Hawaii’s “state policies and procedures” in 1961.”
http://citizenwells.net/2015/04/01/obama-birth-certificate-facts-and-lies-history-prior-to-whitehouse-gov-image-colb-no-document-presented-to-prove-us-birth-hawaii-birth-certificate-generated-does-not-prove-birth-there/
From Citizen News.
““Who is lying?
Neil Abercrombie?
Tim Adams?
Barack Obama?
From the White House blog.
“President Obama’s Long Form Birth Certificate
Posted by Dan Pfeiffer on April 27, 2011 at 08:57 AM EDT
In 2008, in response to media inquiries, the President’s campaign requested his birth certificate from the state of Hawaii. The state sent the campaign the President’s birth certificate, the same legal documentation provided to all Hawaiians as proof of birth in state, and the campaign immediately posted it on the internet. That birth certificate can be seen here (PDF).
When any citizen born in Hawaii requests their birth certificate, they receive exactly what the President received. In fact, the document posted on the campaign website is what Hawaiians use to get a driver’s license from the state and the document recognized by the Federal Government and the courts for all legal purposes. That’s because it is the birth certificate. This is not and should not be an open question.”
““The state sent the campaign the President’s birth certificate, the same legal documentation provided to all Hawaiians as proof of birth in state”
There are 2 lies in that statement.
If you have been paying attention, you should immediately recognize one.
It, even if authentic, does not prove birth in Hawaii or the US.”
http://citizenwells.net/2015/04/01/obama-birth-certificate-facts-and-lies-whitehouse-gov-image-april-27-2011-more-lies-no-document-presented-to-prove-us-birth-hawaii-birth-certificate-generated-does-not-prove-bir/
From Citizen News.
“SOMEBODY IS LYING.
Obama? He has consistently lied to the American people about his records, his associations with criminals like Tony Rezko and about the health care bill. Obama is a liar.
Neil Abercrombie? The newly elected Governor of Hawaii suggested in an interview with the Honolulu Star Advertiser that a long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate for Barack Obama may not exist within the vital records maintained by the Hawaii Department of Health.
Tim Adams ? a elections official in Honolulu in 2008 signed an affifavit stating:”
http://citizenwells.net/2015/04/01/obama-birth-certificate-facts-and-lies-whitehouse-gov-image-somebody-is-lying-obama-neil-abercrombie-tim-adamsdonald-trump-loretta-fuddy-no-document-presented-to-prove-us-birth/
From Citizen News.
“Jana Winter and Fox intentionally misleading Americans?”
“Jana Winter of Fox news presented this article on April 29, 2011.
“Expert: No Doubt Obama’s Birth Certificate Is Legit”
“The White House has released President Obama’s long-form birth certificate, saying the document is “proof positive” the president was born in Hawaii.
It didn’t take long for some of President Obama’s doubters to claim the long-awaited birth certificate posted online by the White House on Wednesday had been altered or might be a fake.
But a leading software expert says there’s no doubt about its authenticity, and he dismisses claims of fraud as flat-out wrong.
The doubters have latched onto the idea that Adobe Illustrator — the premier program for computer graphic artists — “reveals” evidence of document manipulation in the Obama birth certificate. They note Illustrator reveals nine separate layers of the document, and claim it’s “proof” the file has been altered.
But that’s not so, says Jean-Claude Tremblay, a leading software trainer and Adobe-certified expert, who has years of experience working with and teaching Adobe Illustrator.”
Read more:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/04/29/expert-says-obamas-birth-certificate-legit/
First of all, I have not questioned whether or not this document actually came from the State of Hawaii or not or whether or not the the document was “photoshopped.” It was not the core issue for me.
The article heading is at least misleading or an outright lie.
“Expert: No Doubt Obama’s Birth Certificate Is Legit”
- Jean-Claude Tremblay ia a Adobe-certified expert. He only addressed the issue of document manipulation.
- No mention was made of whether or not Tremblay was a birth certificate expert.
- Tremblay has not been given access to an original birth certificate.
- Tremblay did not say that the document was an authenticate presentation of Obama’s original birth certificate.
Why does the article contain these statements?”
http://citizenwells.net/2015/04/01/obama-birth-certificate-facts-and-lies-whitehouse-gov-image-jana-winter-and-fox-intentionally-misleading-americans-image-analysis-ocr-software-no-document-presented-to-prove-us-birth/
Citizen WElls 