Politico lies Trump tells truth, Zero proof of US birth for Obama, I don’t know where Obama was born, Whitehouse.org image not certified birth certificate, Obama used private and Justice Dept. attorneys at taxpayer expense to hide records, Politico receives 4 Orwells

Politico lies Trump tells truth, Zero proof of US birth for Obama, I don’t know where Obama was born, Whitehouse.org image not certified birth certificate, Obama used private and Justice Dept. attorneys at taxpayer expense to hide records, Politico receives 4 Orwells

“Why has Obama, since taking the White House, used Justice Department Attorneys, at taxpayer expense,  to avoid presenting a legitimate birth certificate and college records?”…Citizen Wells

“Moore said he’s seen no convincing evidence that Obama is a “natural born citizen” and a lot of evidence that suggests he is not.”…Judge Roy Moore interview by WND

“When asked where I believe Obama was born I answer, I don’t know. There is zero proof he was born in Hawaii. The only evidence of his birth location that we have is much circumstantial evidence and that points to Kenya.”…Citizen Wells

 

 

Remember:

Websters New World College Dictionary

“The official dictionary of the Associated Press”
Lie definition (noun)

“anything that gives or is meant to give a false impression.”

The Politico article below, written by Jeff Greenfield, qualifies as a lie.

Donald Trump, as I. does not know where Obama was born. That is an honest, informed answer.

Jeff Greenfield, has either not done the research and/or doesn’t care about the truth.

From Politico July 22, 2015.

“Donald Trump’s Birther Strategy
His loony birth certificate quest fits into a xenophobic tradition in American politics.”

“However far apart the two men are, their two journeys are linked in significant ways. In the minds of millions of Americans (if polls are right), Barack Obama is actually returning to the country in which he was born—a “fact” he, his parents and the entire Hawaiian public health system have fiendishly hidden from the world for half a century. Those suspicions were fanned greatly by the comments of Donald Trump stretching back more than three years, comments that had no basis in fact, and for which Trump has offered neither explanation nor apology. Back in 2011, Trump trumpeted that he had sent investigators to Hawaii and that “they cannot believe what they’re finding.” We never did learn what it is they had found. A few weeks ago, asked about whether he thought Obama was born in the United States, Trump told CNN, “I don’t know. I really don’t know.”

For his part, Obama has usually resorted to humor to reply. The two men even faced each other at the 2011 White House Correspondents Association dinner, where Obama skewered Trump from the podium for his “birther” stance, saying, “I know he’s taken some flak lately, but no one is prouder to put this birth certificate matter to rest than The Donald,” Obama told the crowd. “And that’s because he can finally get back to focusing on the issues that matter, like: Did we fake the moon landing? What really happened in Roswell? And where are Biggie and Tupac?” Two years ago, he told the same dinner about plans for his library: “Some have suggested that we put it in my birthplace but I’d rather keep it in the United States.””

“The meritless suspicions about Obama’s birthplace and beliefs are in part a reflection of who he is: a uniquely “untypical” president”

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/07/donald-trumps-birther-strategy-120504.html?hp=t2_r#.VbJi1PlVikq

I was glad to see that Greenfield at least got this right:

“The framers of the Constitution were determined, in Alexander Hamilton’s words, to avoid “cabal, intrigue and corruption”—threats likely to come “chiefly from the desire in foreign powers to gain an improper ascendant in our councils.” That’s why they limited the presidency to “natural born citizens.””

From Citizen Wells July 9, 2015.

“To: Donald Trump

From: Citizen Wells

There have been numerous attempts to obfuscate and complicate Obama’s birth proof and eligibility.

The answer is simple.

There is no proof of Obama birth in the US and Hawaii.

Forget the semantics of birth certificate.

Hawaii is very atypical and consistently ranked as one of the most corrupt states.

One can have what is considered a “legal” birth certificate from Hawaii and not be born there.

If one looks at the alleged birth certificate for Obama that was posted on WhiteHouse.gov you will find.

WhiteHouseGovAbstractVerbage

Abstract: “The term abstract is subject to different meanings, but in a legal sense, it refers to an abbreviated history of an official record.””

This automatically disqualifies the WhiteHouse.com image as being a copy of an original birth certificate.

Governor Neil Abercrombie, an Obama friend, could not find a birth certificate for Obama. He may have found a recording of birth.

From Citizen Wells July 19, 2012.

“Former Hawaii elections clerk Tim Adams has now signed an affidavit swearing he was told by his supervisors in Hawaii that no long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate existed for Barack Obama Jr. in Hawaii and that neither Queens Medical Center nor Kapi’olani Medical Center in Honolulu had any record of Obama having been born in their medical facilities.”

https://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2011/01/25/tim-adams-affidavit-no-obama-birth-certificate-in-hawaii-no-medical-records-queens-medical-center-kapiolani-medical-center/

From Citizen Wells May 24, 2012.

“Here is a list of some of the US Justice Department attorneys who have assisted Obama in keeping his records hidden. Their representation of Obama is a matter of public record. This list does not include the support staffs.

Eric Fleisig-Greene

Elizabeth A. Pascal

Neal Kumar Katyal Acting Solicitor General

R. CraiG Lawrence

Mark B. Stern

Andre Birotte Jr.

Leon W. Weidman

David A. Dejute

Roger E. West

George S. Cardona

Tony West

Paul J. Fishman

Robert Bauer, who as an attorney with Perkins Coie helped Obama keep his records hidden before Obama took the White House, and afterwards was hired as general counsel, is not included in the list as well as numerous private practice attorneys

Obama continues to engage numerous Justice Department and private attorneys to keep his records hidden. It may be because Obama pretended to be from Kenya to get foreign student aid and benefits. There are quite a few references to Obama being from Kenya including the recently released bio from his 1991 book publisher.”

https://citizenwells.com/2015/07/09/to-donald-trump-from-citizen-wells-all-you-need-to-know-about-obama-birth-certificate-and-eligibility-zero-proof-of-us-birth-hawaii-birth-certificate-if-legal-does-not-prove-birth-there-obama/

Politico and Jeff Greenfield are awarded 4 Orwells.

Orwells4

 

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80 responses to “Politico lies Trump tells truth, Zero proof of US birth for Obama, I don’t know where Obama was born, Whitehouse.org image not certified birth certificate, Obama used private and Justice Dept. attorneys at taxpayer expense to hide records, Politico receives 4 Orwells

  1. citizenwells

    “Yusuf Acar, 40, who has worked in the technology office since
    2004, was charged with bribery, conspiracy, money laundering and
    conflict of interest.”

    “FBI agents carted away boxes and envelopes from the Office of
    the Chief Technology Officer throughout the day.”

    “Acar also told the informant that he could use computers to
    create fake D.C. birth certificates, Hibarger said.”

    “The scam began unraveling in March last year”

    https://citizenwells.com/2014/09/26/obama-birth-certificate-forged-by-brennans-company-vivek-kundra-yusuf-acar-et-al-whitehouse-gov-image-if-not-forged-does-not-prove-us-birth-team-arpaio-mike-zullo-reveal-forger/

  2. bob strauss

    The usurper’s phony ID, a crime so large, people have a hard time believing it could occur.

  3. oldsoldier79

    SO MUCH FOR “THE RELIGION OF PEACE”….

    WARNING: This video is very graphic…..

    The killing of Du’a Khalil Aswad is shown here. Up to 1000 men from the Yezidi Kurdish community of Mosul killed a teenager who’s only crime was running away to marry a Muslim man whom she loved and for possibly converting to his religion.

    For four months the girl had been given shelter by a local Muslim Sheik. It was reported that in the last few days her family persuaded her to return home, convincing her that she had been forgiven by her parents and relatives for her mistake.

    In a short mobile video clip which appears to have been taken by locals, the girl is seen being ambushed on her way home by a group of up to 1000 men who were waiting for her to return; the men killed her in the most brutal way possible, by throwing large stones on her head. The following clips show that while she is alive and crying for help she is taunted and kicked in her stomach until someone finishes her off by throwing a large stone on her face.

    ———————————————— ———————————————
    Don’t let anyone tell you that Islam is a religion of peace because it isn’t…this film proves that…

    There is no such thing as a ‘moderate’ Muslim and this brutality would happen to all who go against the religious cult’s Islamic teachings in America if this so called religion is given a foothold….

  4. oldsoldier79

    Everyone in America should be required to watch that video I just posted…

    Especially the Muslim pResident, and his Muslim corrupt government.

    Then let them try to tell everyone what a “PEACEFUL RELIGION” ISLAM is…..they are nothing but a 12th century bunch of murderous goatherders….

  5. bob strauss

    oldsoldier79 | July 24, 2015 at 2:58 pm
    *************
    I agree, God Bless the USA.

  6. oldsoldier79

    This BIG document discovery in England should give all DEVOUT Muslims- goatherders ….a whole lot of HEARTBURN and reason to question…..

    Timing is everything. On the heels of Dr. Bill Warner’s latest political islam video, which may be 20 minutes long, but it’s the most informative and entertaining one he’s done in a while, comes the news from the University of Birmingham that they’ve had a really OLD manuscript carbon dated and the date the fancy machinery came up with for when the animal skin on which the words were written was produced is around 645 AD (the BBC says at least 1,370 years old, and this writer did the math).

    This is very interesting because Muhammad was born in the year 570AD and lived for 63 years. He died in the year 633AD. If the date of this document just found is correct, then it was written only 12 short years after Muhammad’s death. If so, why wouldn’t Muhammad have know of its existence or plans for it too be written?

    And it turns out that the book in question happens to be a fragment of a really old Quran (Koran, Quran…muslims call it a holy book).

    Why this is breathless news from across the pond is that being that old, this particular Quran is quite possibly the oldest known copy of the book itself, even if it is incomplete. Why? Actually, Dr. Warner gave the answer on his Q & A video in the 18th minute:

    Question: Is there any archaeological evidence that corroborates early Islam as per the sira?

    Dr. Warner: “Out of all the questions asked, this is the one that goes the deepest, and I’ll give you the shortest answer. NO. How Islam came about is a self-myth. It turns out that there is not a single reference in any historical document that is contemporary to Muhammad that even mentions him. Does it mention anything about any rise to power of any religion in Arabia? The first time we run across historical evidence of Islam is about 150-200 years after the death of Muhammad.

    The first historical Quran was about a hundred and fifty years after his death. Now, there are mythical, earlier Qurans, but we don’t have any historical evidence. Archaeology is cruel to Islam. And as a matter of fact, Muslims don’t really care for archaeology at all because the first 200 years of Islam are simply nowhere to be found in any history book.

    One of the documentaries I would like to do…is called “The Invention of Islam” because we do have some real historical facts here, but none of them agree with what Islam says.

    We are told that the Quran is the perfect word of God, and has no variation and is therefore not corrupt.”

    Dr. Warner: “This is part of the self-myth of Islam. Hate to break it to you, but there is variation in the Quran. We have found historical Quran’s that are quite old, and they ARE NOT quite the same as the Quran we have today. As a matter of fact, the creation of the Quran, its self-myth, is that after Muhammad died, there was variation.

    And so, all of the Quran’s that were known and all of the pieces that were written were brought into Uthman, the third Khalifa. And he had a secretary, Zaid, prepare what is known as the Quran today. Now, the reason they made the Quran we have today is that they were worried about variation.

    Do you know what Uthman did with all the original documents? He had them burned. Now, why would you burn the original Quran’s? Simple. They were filled with variations.

    Dr. Warner will have to revise his statements as now there is one Quran, at least, in existence from the contemporary period of Muhammad. One of those mythical early Quran’s has surfaced even if it is not supposed to exist after the official one was compiled. It was supposed to have been burned. Even the scholars at the University of Birmingham admitted that.

    However, finding this particular text in the midst of a Middle Eastern collection of rare books is cause to celebrate among Muslims. These words to the Quran are very close to the contemporary period of Muhammad, and may well have been written by someone close to him. Whether or not they bear likeness to the modern Quran is a different story.

    The account a professor from the British university gives is the historical party line that Dr. Warner disputes. Even among history professors there’s a lot of disagreement when the documentation is incomplete.

    It seems that archaeology and the historical spotlight have swung back to Islam. If only the followers were literate enough to understand what that means. (Watch the full Dr. Warner video for the rest of that story.)

    Read more at http://dcgazette.com/ancient-quran-that-should-have-been-burned-found-in-england
    ———————————————————————————————–
    Now if i were a Muslim, (which I am not)…I would be asking myself a lot of questions about my religion.

    But if you are a simple goat herder living in some cave in god knows where, and you believed everything you were told by the religious leaders,the Mullah’s…then…why should the truth mean anything to you?

    As they say; “Submit and you will be taken care of later in the afterlife”….My question is; …’taken care of by whom” ?

    Islam is a false religion that has been built on lies then reinforced by bigger lies and terror tactics……and now threatens to keep 1.5 billion people in bondage.

  7. oldsailor83

    oldsoldier79…….
    ……….Islam is not even a religion, it is a PERVERTED,SICK, TWISTED way of life. In addition there is proof that they also engage in CARNAL ACTS with NANNY GOATS. In addition they rape their OWN 5 year old daughters. NO RELIGOUS PERSON WOULD EVER PERPETRATE SUCH HEINOUS ACTS.

  8. oldsoldier79

    So….in short, what the above proves is;

    That Muhammad was NOT of the Islamic religion because it didn’t exist until at least 200 years after his death..and not during his lifetime…..period.

  9. oldsailor83

    and at the wackey house lives the QUEEN OF SODOM.

  10. oldsailor83

    ……..in spite of education Most Muslims are ILLITERATE. The rate of illiteracy of Muslims exceeds 50%. Take away their IMAM and they become wandering, directionless MORONS.

  11. oldsoldier79

    that short video by Dr Warner is the best explanation of Islam I have ever heard…..I recommend it to everyone.

    and oldsailor83, you are correct……the rate of ILLITERATE Muslims is over 60%…..they are only expected to go to the masque, listen to the Eman’s and believe everything he says…..and above all;

    DO NOT QUESTION ANYTHING !!!!

  12. oldsailor83

    …………the cure for a person INFECTED BY ISLAM would be a COMPLETE LOBOTOMY.

  13. oldsailor83

    …………believe everything he says……….and then they repeat it as prayer 5 times each day to be sure they got it locked into their PEA SIZE BRAINS.

  14. oldsoldier79

    WHAT IF…….everything this man says is TRUE…..

    What if everything we have believed in, sacrificed for, and died for has been false? What if the Judge is right ?

  15. bob strauss

    *** WEEKLY UPDATE ***

    Judicial Watch has released more blockbuster documents from the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) that confirm that the IRS used donor lists of conservative, tax-exempt organizations to target those donors for audits. This is criminal. Please SHARE!

    President Obama isn’t fooling Judicial Watch as we battle his Justice Department and IRS lawyers successfully in court to hold him accountable for his worse-than-Nixon abuse of the IRS.
    Judicial Watch Uncovers Obama IRS Audit Abuse!
    Judicial Watch has forced out documents from the Obama IRS that confirm the IRS used donor lists to target conservative donors for audits.
    judicialwatch.org

    http://www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/weekly-updates/obama-irs-audit-abuse/

  16. OH,OH, Here come da Judge for Sheriff Joe

    PHOENIX (Reuters) – A federal judge on Friday ordered U.S. marshals to seize documents from the office of controversial Arizona lawman Joe Arpaio as part of an ongoing racial profiling case.
    U.S. District Judge Murray Snow issued the order at an emergency hearing he convened after a court-appointed monitor reported that the sheriff’s office had failed to turn over information being sought in connection with the case.
    In a brief order, Snow required that 1,459 identifications apparently taken from people by sheriff’s deputies during law enforcement actions and which were about to be destroyed be produced for federal marshals.
    The judge also ordered that computer hard drives, documents and other materials related to an investigation involving the judge by a confidential informant be given to marshals by the end of the day on Friday.
    Arpaio, the longtime Maricopa County sheriff, did not attend the last-minute afternoon hearing held in U.S. District Court in Phoenix.
    Sheriff’s office spokesman Officer Chris Hegstrom said in a statement that it would be inappropriate to comment at this time, but added that the “truth will come out during the hearing process.”
    U.S. Marshal David Gonzales told Reuters that the information ordered by the court had been seized by early on Friday night.
    Snow, who has become increasingly frustrated with the sheriff’s office in recent months, has mandated that all information be preserved as the case heads into a second round of contempt of court hearings.
    Arpaio and other current and former employees face civil contempt hearings scheduled to begin in September for repeatedly violating court orders relating to the long-standing case. Arpaio already has acknowledged he has committed civil contempt.
    Possible punishment includes fines, restitution and increased oversight by the court monitor. They also could be charged with criminal contempt.
    The court-ordered seizures represent another turning point in a case that was originally filed by civil and immigrant rights groups in 2007.
    In 2013, Snow ruled that Arpaio and his deputies racially profiled Latino drivers during traffic stops and wrongfully detained them, a finding that the sheriff vigorously disputes.
    The judge also ordered changes to the sheriff’s office and appointed a monitor to oversee operations and prevent any such repeats.
    A civil rights lawsuit by the U.S. Justice Department continues against Arpaio and his deputies, but both sides are trying to settle the case.
    (Reporting by David Schwartz in Phoenix; Editing by Dan Whitcomb in Los Angeles)

  17. citizenwells

    “Russian austerity: Putin fires 110,000 officials”

    “This is what belt-tightening looks like in Russia: Vladimir Putin has fired 110,000 government officials at a stroke.”

    http://money.cnn.com/2015/07/24/news/russia-putin-layoffs/

    Putin for president.

    He is as eligible as Obama.

  18. oldsailor83

    CW………
    ……….now that there is established PRECEDENT, Putin could actually run for POTUS. All he would have to do is cite the established precedent as both his justification, and foundation. The FEC would be forced to allow his name to appear on the ballot.

  19. oldsoldier79

    THIS IS EXACTLY THE WAY THE DEAL WENT DOWN !!!

  20. AND NOW…….
    ………..the (alleged) POTUS is in Kenya, and lying to them. In reality he is preparing the road for his possible EXILE(deportation) that he might soon be facing. It is ONLY a matter of time until the TRUTH EMERGES. When one of his cohorts is facing life in prison (without parole) he might be willing to sing very loudly, for a (with parole) position. Hopefully the lyrics will confirm what most of us already know. I believe that sooner or later it will happen. At the same time nobody is bothering to VET any of the alleged candidates. Neither Rubio, or Jindal are even eligible, yet they are running. So far I havn’t heard of a single person who has asked for a birth certificate from either Jindal, Rubio, or Cruz. sooooo hey Putin why not jump into US politics………hell you can run for POTUS without QUESTION, and there is established PRECEDENCE.

  21. oldsoldier79

    BEST DAMN ROAD SIGN I HAVE SEEN THIS YEAR !!!!!

  22. oldsoldier79

    COMING TO A NEIGHBORHOOD NEAR YOU !!!

    LOCK…AND LOAD !

  23. oldsoldier79

    lets try that again

  24. oldsoldier79

    sorry it doesn’t seen to work

  25. oldsoldier79

    oldsailor83….

    Obama is in Kenya trying to sale his homosexual agenda to those people….

    IT’S NOT WORKING !

    It is a felony to be gay in that country with up to a 14 year prison sentence for playing backdoor pool with your best buddy !

  26. Whistleblower

    Planned Parenthood Exec Cited Public Hospital as Possible Source of Aborted Baby Parts

    http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/barbara-hollingsworth/planned-parenthood-exec-cited-public-hospital-possible-source

  27. When is the last time a private sector non-career politician (like Donald Trump) was elected President?

    Barack Obama – US Senator
    George W. Bush – Governor of Texas
    Bill Clinton – Governor of Arkansas
    George Bush – Vice President
    Ronald Reagan – Governor of California
    Jimmy Carter – Governor of Georgia
    Gerald Ford – Vice President
    Richard Nixon – Vice President
    Lyndon Johnson – Vice President
    John Kennedy – US Senator
    Dwight Eisenhower – US Military
    Harry Truman – Vice President
    Franklin Roosevelt – Governor of New York
    Herbert Hoover – US Secretary of Commerce
    Calvin Coolidge – Vice President
    Warren Harding – US Senator
    Woodrow Wilson – Governor of New Jersey
    William Taft – US Secretary of War
    Theodore Roosevelt – Vice President
    etc. etc. etc.

    It’s time for a private sector business man for President.

  28. oldsoldier79

    WANT TO KNOW WHO KEPT THE MARINES FROM BEING ARMED IN CHATTANOOGA….YOU DON’T HAVE TO LOOK VERY FAR ……

    In June, Sen. Dean Heller tried to get the Pentagon to change its practice of banning arms from our soldiers on bases and recruiting centers here in America. But it appears that John McCain was the principle foe of the move and helped to defeat the arming of our soldiers which ended up having deadly consequences in Tennessee.

    Dean Heller: “So I submitted an amendment in the Department of Defense Authorization bill to allow this to happen. Now this was of course six weeks ago before Chattanooga. And the chairman of the committee wouldn’t support it–by the way, chairman was John McCain–did not want the amendment as part of the bill and wouldn’t accept it.

    Here is what Heller said on his website about the bill:

    Today, U.S. Senator Dean Heller sent a letter to the Chairmen and Ranking Members of the Senate and House Armed Services Committees, requesting that National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) conferees include his amendment to give military base commanders the authority to allow service members to carry personal firearms on base for their personal protection and force protection. In June, Senator Heller offered this amendment during the Senate’s consideration of the Fiscal Year 2016 NDAA. In addition, Senator Heller introduced stand-alone legislation to address this issue critical to the safety of our nation’s service members.

    John McCain made sure that the Marines who died in Chattanooga would not be able to fire back and save lives when a terrorist attacked. How’s THAT from a “war hero”?
    ———————————————————————————————
    Hero ?…or Hot-Dog?…or Turn-Coat ?

  29. oldsailor83

    Squirejacob………..
    1948 Harry Truman. He operated a men’s haberdasherie in Independence, MO.

  30. oldsailor83

    Squirejacob………
    ……..I like your UPPER ECHELON BREAKDOWN……….tells it like it is!
    …..I chose to pick Harry Truman out of the crowd. har har

  31. oldsailor83

    oldsoldier79……..
    …….I’m not sure that any of the people at Chattanooga would have had a chance to return the BASTARD’S fire even if they had been armed. Often times the winner is dictated by he who fires FIRST. I tend to think that whether they were armed or not it is entirely possible that they would NOT have been expecting the attack…….and therefore were not prepared for it.But at least they would have been in a better position to quickly respond to the attack. Anything that they could have done would most likely have been AFTER THE FACT. In defense it helps big time to have FOREWARNING of a coming attack…..otherwise you can suffer massive casualties. Sort of like when the enemy starts sending you airmail……which is sometimes not on target. Incoming mortars sometimes are heard before they are seen…….and you have a chance to get on the ground and flatten out. But when the enemy is already at YOUR FRONT DOOR and you DON’T suspect him, you will probably end up among the dead. Even if you was armed!

  32. oldsailor83

    Oldsoldier79
    …….. I hasten to add that the circumstances involved in such an attack more often than not will not provide much, if any forewarning whatsoever. Particularly at a PUBLIC place. The mindset of the military personell would most likely be one, of NORMAL APATHY, and focused upon their jobs. I think that the best defense for recruiters, and/or training facilities would be DOOR BELL ADMISSION and keeping the people doing the recruiting at safe places about 500 ‘ from the entrance…….at least they would have a small chance to draw weapons before the attacker could enter. Bullet proof glass could be installed at the CENTERS. ANYONE WANTING TO ENTER WOULD HAVE TO PRESS THE DOORBUZZER, then wait for somebody inside to press the ADMIT BUTTON. There would be a built in time lapse. Of course we shouldn’t kill everyone who comes through the door. Metal detectors at the entrance would also help. Also the people inside would have a good view of the person at the door. If he had a backpack then he would not be admitted. Again at least the people inside might have a chance if they can dive under a desk. Airport sort of scrutiny would also be something to consider for recruiting stores, and at main gates of bases. Before the attacker could get anywhere near the place he wants to either murder people in, or detonate a bomb vest he would undergo a thorough electronic scrutiny. Airport type of security should be deployed as well. They would find it long before he could reach his intended target. Well positioned explosives sniffing dogs might also help.

  33. Oldsailor83,
    Harry Truman owned a haberdashery for a very short time, but most of his professional life was spent as a career politician. Every President probably had some kind of private sector job at one time in their lives, but all those that I listed were career politicians before becoming President. I don’t know how far you’d have to go back to find someone who went from a private sector career to the Office of President. Ross Perot tried it and now Donald Trump is going to try it. The Democratic and Republic parties seem to have made President an exclusive club open only to the loyal party operatives.

  34. Let’s help Obama find his Kenyan Birth Certificate

    With President Obama’s 2012 reelection, a lot of the heat and energy went out of the ongoing debate about his place of birth. He’d already been president for almost four years and, to those disheartened by his presidency, it looked as if another grim four years was inevitable. So-called “birthers” were marginalized, and continued to be saw as other more immediately inflammatory issues took front and center: the September 11, 2012 Benghazi attack immediately preceding the election; the election itself; the Brennan, Hagel, and Kerry nominations; the Sandy Hook shooting; the gun control debate; and, of course, the perpetually sagging economy, which saw a peculiar uptick in the stock market even as the rest of the economy, including the employment market, sank below stagnant.
    (Read More: Alabama Supreme Court Reviews Shocking Evidence Obama’s Birth Certificate Likely A Forgery)
    During this busy time, one that was not receptive to news about the circumstances of Obama’s birth, a man named Dan Crosby, who publishes at The Daily Pen, wrote that he went searching for Barack Obama senior in the colonial records kept in the British National Archives, a repository of official documents, including colonial documents, that goes back one thousand years. Writing in mid-2012, Crosby claims to have found proof that the Kenyan Copy of Certification of Registration of Birth filed in one of the first “birther” lawsuits is not a fake, because it is confirmed by handwritten original records in the BNA.
    Some of you may remember that, back in 2009, a group of people questioning Obama’s birth narrative filed with the court a copy of what they contended was an original Kenyan Copy of Certification of Registration of Birth (“CCRB”) showing Barack Obama’s birth in Kenya.
    Purported Kenyan Birth Certificate
    Obama supporters instantly, and successfully, argued that the paper document was a forgery. They said that it was a primitive re-working of an Australian birth certificate, and that a blogger named Bomford had proved this point. Crosby, however, asserts that the document that Obama’s supporters produced to counter the Kenyan birth certificate narrative also came from the BNA. Their hope, Crosby says, which was realized, was to create such a swirl of confusion around the alleged Obama CCRB that no one could possibly know what was real and what was faked.
    (Read More: 7 Questions About Obama’s Birth Certificate, Identity, And Past The Media Won’t Ask.)

    http://mrconservative.com/2013/05/16165-british-national-archives-confirm-obama-sr-had-a-child-in-1961-kenya/

  35. citizenwells

    “Jim Webb is now the fifth Democrat to pursue the 2016 presidential nomination. He made the announcement Thursday on his website, acknowledging that other candidates in the race are likely to have more money and bigger campaign machines than he does.”

    “1. He’s the only combat veteran in this presidential field

    Webb, 69, is a Marine who fought in Vietnam. He was awarded the Navy Cross, Silver Star, two Bronze Stars and two Purple Hearts. He graduated from the Naval Academy, where he lost the 1967 147-pound boxing championship to Oliver North,”

    “5. He has had an affinity for the Confederacy and defended the Confederate flag

    Last month, candidate after candidate in the 2016 race called for the Confederate battle flag to be removed from the South Carolina state Capitol grounds. After Republican Gov. Nikki Haley of South Carolina held a press conference calling for it to be removed, Jeb Bush called the flag “racist.” Jim Webb, though, a descendant of Confederate officers, defended those who fought for the Confederacy. He wrote in a June 24 Facebook post:

    “The Confederate Battle Flag has wrongly been used for racist and other purposes in recent decades. … But we should also remember that honorable Americans fought on both sides in the Civil War, including slave holders in the Union Army from states such as Missouri, Kentucky, Maryland and Delaware, and that many non-slave holders fought for the South. It was in recognition of the character of soldiers on both sides that the federal government authorized the construction of the Confederate Memorial 100 years ago, on the grounds of Arlington National Cemetery. This is a time for us to come together, and to recognize once more that our complex multicultural society is founded on the principle of mutual respect.”
    Webb has always taken a more sympathetic view of the Confederacy. He has previously referred to Confederate soldiers’ “gallantry,” described Gen. Robert E. Lee as “venerable,” and defended the South’s want to secede. “Most Southern soldiers viewed the driving issue to be sovereignty rather than slavery,” he said in a 1990 speech at the Confederate memorial at Arlington Cemetery. “In 1860, fewer than 5 percent of the people in the South owned slaves, and fewer than 20 percent were involved with slavery in any capacity.””

    http://www.npr.org/sections/itsallpolitics/2015/07/02/419557773/5-things-you-should-know-about-jim-webb

  36. oldsoldier79

    Citizenwells…..

    It looks like someone, Jim Webb, has finally told the truth about the Confederacy and what they were fighting for……three cheers for Jim Webb.

    He is correct when he says that the Confederate Battle Flag has been wrongly used to represent racism and hatred. Most notably Webb brought out the fact that slavery existed in the states that were still part of the Union….that’s something these race baiter’s do not mention in their arguments today.

    If the American people would just take a step backward and look at what they are speaking about today…….all this crap about the battle flag,monuments, and dead Confederate generals would be forgotten. But they won’t because the “race baiter’s” won’t let them.

    There is a small minority of them (most likely paid for their services) who are creating all the chaos among the majority, both black and white. It is done to distract from all the REAL problems this country faces.

    I read somewhere a few days ago that 60% of all Muslims (world wide) could not read or write.. I think that same percentage could be used against the American people…….if the truth were known.

  37. citizenwells

    oldsoldier.
    Amen.

  38. U.S. marshals raid Sheriff Joe’s office
    Judge orders seizure of records, hard drives in racial-profiling case

    Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2015/07/u-s-marshals-raid-sheriff-joes-office/#L5Astc9ZbX3e2Tgc.99

  39. oldsailor83

    There are many thousands of younger Americans who don’t even know that there was a civil war, or who was president of America then. Once AGAIN we are seeing STATES RIGHTS being abused by the FED.

  40. oldsailor83

    Jonah…….
    Sheriff Arpaio was elected by the PUBLIC of Maricopa County AZ.. As such he is answerable only to the PEOPLE of Maricopa County. The Judge in this IMAGINARY CASE is a FEDERAL JUDGE. He does not have the legal right to order such a RAID. This was most likely ordered straight from the WACKEY HOUSE. Now is the time for the entire population of Maricopa County to file a complaint of FEDERAL HARRASSMENT to a duly elected STATE LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER. This would be filed as a class action, and as a CROSS COMPLAINT against the ILLEGAL ACT BY THE FEDERAL JUDGE INVOLVED. It is time for over a MILLION PEOPLE TO GET ON BOARD. The bullshi# can be rammed right back to the BASTARD who perpetrated it in the first place. Now lets see if the people of Maricopa County get angry enough to stand behind Sheriff Arpaio. I also believe that there is also some hanky panky going on with the A$$HOLE LIBERALS at the local level. With out a doubt they are involved.

  41. oldsailor83

    Larrabie……..
    I think that overall you are correct, but don’t forget……..there is a FIRST TIME FOR EVERYTHING! Often times someone with a well thought out plan, along with patience, and persistence is rewarded with success in a venture where MANY have failed. I NEVER SAY the word IMPOSSIBLE until it is absolutely proven to be naturally impossible. Apples don’t fall upwards to the tree……….but irregardless of this fact there is NOBODY on earth who can prove that it can never happen. Not because of Newtons law being flawed rather as a result of some strange occurrence which supposedly doesn’t occur in nature. I try to keep an open mind where nature and POLITICS are concerned. I believe that there are sometimes existing variables whereby DOWN could become UP…… in actuality such variables only occur when an OVEREDUCATED WORDSMITH TWISTS WORDS………like we now see going on in DC, as well as many other places in America.

  42. I have been on earth since 1932. I remember the bombing of Pearl Harbor well, and most of WW2 activity, both in Europe as well as the Pacific. I have seen a lot, heard a lot, and done a lot during the interim period up to today……amounting to about 76 years of life’s experiences…….not to mention education, or occupation. I am not a college grad. During my lifetime I was first an Infantryman (National Guard). Then I enlisted in the Navy in November 1952. I did NOT see any actual combat with the enemy in Korea. I did however as a gun crewman assist in firing a 5″ 38 at enemy shore batteries during early pilot recovery operations, close to N. Korean shore. Later I was privileged in assisting UDT personell in the actual recoveries. A few of these pilots were in serious condition when extracted from their fast sinking AD1 Skyraider aircraft. I felt great satisfaction in doing my part.
    In March of 1954 I was serving aboard a ship which was assigned to Operation Castle, Task Group 7.3 at Bikini Atoll. (Marshall Islands). This was to provide support to then AEC hydrogen bomb tests with 6 test shots scheduled during our deployment. I personally along with other crewmembers watched each of the very first HYDROGEN BOMB TESTS from about 40 miles distance. This included the INFAMOUS BRAVO TEST,( March 1954) which was a mistake in progress. It was supposed to yield 7 megaton, but owing to miscommunication, compounded by a refining technique change of it’s fuel it yielded OVER TWICE the destructive power, and because of an unknown high altitude wind direction change at the last minute ended up contaminating over 7000 square miles of the Southeastern Marshall Islands, and Micronesia with heavy (ionising radiation)CS 137 fallout, not to mention other less life threatening fallout. However a few crew members of the CV 105 died early, and very painful deaths as a result of the cancers which subsequently invaded their bodies as a result of exposure to the ionizing radiation. The US to this day is still paying for the care of the Micronesian tribe all of whom were heavily exposed,and had to be relocated, and rehabitated onto other islands. Many of the tribe were flown to the states for emergency hospital care. This all was for many years a government secret but finally was told during the Reagan administration. But I guess that when you play with explosives it is at some point probable that somebody will end up paying the FIDDLER with his ,or her life!

  43. WATCH! This guy is WONDERFUL

  44. Ginger……….
    ……….the magnitude of the alleged “SHELLGAME” is now so integrated into literally ALL federal departments and agencies. This game of “BULLSHI#” has been going on for decades. Unfortunately it was POO POOED for so long that it has now become a SYSTEMIC POISONING, and if we continue to sit on our duffs and go OHHHH WELLLLLLL, the poisoning will KILL AMERICA. The few people that he cited are only a very small contingent of the enemy. In actuality the poison has spread exponentially throughout the alleged FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, but it was spread DELIBERATELY, and by virtue of those who have become infected and done NOTHING, it will continue to spread…….UNTIL AMERICA IS DEAD! It is the younger people in our country who should be taking the lead in the coming hellish fight. ………but now a very large percentage of our young people’s minds are now poisoned as well. Many even think that our enemy is C-O-O-L. Some even idolize our enemy, and some are now trying to join our enemy to either MURDER THEIR OWN PARENTS OUTRIGHT,OR assist in the murder of their own parents. This is how they thank their parents for raising them……and that is the DIRECT FAULT OF THE PARENTS. They failed to teach their children right from wrong, and/or they failed to enforce it. Now we have a couple of generations of young people who DON’T GIVE A DAMN ABOUT ANYTHING EXCEPT DRUGS, DEVIATE SEX, AND PORN, AND THINK THAT ALL THEY NEED TO DO IS HOLD OUT THEIR HAND TO THE GOVERNMENT……….AND VOILA BIG GOVERNMENT IS ONLY TOO HAPPY TO HAND THEM A FREE LIVING. IN REALITY IT IS THE DO NOTHINGS AMONG US WHO ARE OUR WORST ENEMY both YOUNG AND OLD ALIKE. JUST MY OWN VIEWPOINT. NO OFFENSE TO ANYONE.

  45. oldsoldier79

    IT’S THE SAME DAMN PEOPLE…..OVER …AND OVER…AND OVER.

  46. citizenwells

    ” Anonymous said…
    Very little reporting on a key point in this Appeal: A judge involved in the Appeal read a book on President Eisenhower. In the book the antidote of when Ike told the former Attorney Gen. of Calif., if he would deliver Calif. for Ike, he would get a Seat on the Supreme Court. Ike carried Calif. and that former Atty. Gen. of Calif. became the Chief Justice of the U.S. Supreme Ct., Earl Warren. So when Blago’s Appeal went to the judge who read that story, he asked the Feds, how was what Blago did different from what Ike did? The Feds had no answer, and that caused this reversal. Add to that the fact that “Triple J” is out of prison, after stealing $750,000.00 and it becomes clear that Blago got a raw deal. But he will stay in prison until pardoned by Obama when he leaves Office. Too many people forget that T.V. ad where Obama asks “folks” to vote Blago a second term. They used to be buddies, they even had the same fund raiser, Tony Rezko. I wonder what he could tell. “G””

    7/22/2015 08:40:00 AM

    http://secondcitycop.blogspot.com/2015/07/blago-to-be-freed.html?showComment=1437629626032

  47. oldsoldier79

    THE ROLE OF THE HUMAN RACE….

    The grand game is being played on a level most humans cannot understand’ or want to understand…….this video is well worth watching. The description of the role of humans starts at about the 1:34 in the video…

    The initial 1:34 part of the video is about a disaster that is supposed to occur either in September or November of this year. If that occurs, most of the problems of the human race will be solved by a cosmic intervention.

    Having watched this video, many answers were provided to me as to why things are always screwed up and why they will remain screwed up….

    This is the most intelligent 14 minutes I have ever spent on the internet….

    Enjoy…and understand….and learn.

  48. bob strauss

    ” Anonymous said…”
    *********
    CW
    I believe he’s got it right.

    The whole show is run by the mob, and the crooks are fighting amongst themselves, and using the courts to punish their enemies, and block access to the usurper’s true ID.

    Reminds me of the “Godfather” movie.

  49. bob strauss

    The usurper’s Gay agenda isn’t working in Kenya, I hope they arrest the bastard!
    ******************

    Kenyatta’s opposition to Obama reflects Kenyan society.

    Jack Davis July 27, 2015 at 11:40am

    Kenyan President Uhuru Kenyatta has made it clear that President Obama was speaking to the wrong congregation when he urged Kenyans to embrace gay rights.

    During a Saturday news conference in Nairobi, Kenya, at the start of his trip to Africa, Obama equated the denial of gay rights with racism. “As an African-American, I am painfully aware of what happens when people are treated differently under the law,” Obama said.

    Kenyatta replied that although there are many areas of agreement between Kenya and the United States, Obama found an area where the two nations disagree.

    “There are some things that we must admit we don’t share, our culture, our societies don’t accept,” Kenyatta said. “For Kenyans today, the issue of gay rights is really a non-issue. We want to focus on other issues that really are day-to-day issues for our people.”

    Obama’s call for gay rights came despite pre-visit requests from Kenyan politicians and religious leaders to leave the issue alone.

    “We do not want him to come and talk on homosexuality in Kenya or push us to accepting that which is against our faith and culture,” said Mark Kariuki, the key architect of the letter. Kariuki leads an alliance representing 38,000 churches and 10 million Kenyan Christians.

    “The family is the strength of a nation. If the family is destroyed, then the nation is destroyed,” Kariuki said. “So we don’t want to open doors for our nation to be destroyed!”

    Kenyatta’s opposition to Obama reflects Kenyan society. A 2007 Pew Global study found that 96% of Kenyans surveyed believe that homosexuality should be rejected. Forty-one percent of American respondents felt that way at the time of the poll.

    Kenyan law makes sexual activity between two individuals of the same gender illegal and punishable by a maximum jail sentence of 14 years in most cases.

    http://www.westernjournalism.com/kenyas-president-did-not-like-what-obama-said-to-his-country-and-he-let-the-whole-world-know-it/?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=WesternJournalism&utm_content=2015-07-27

  50. bob strauss

  51. oldsailor83

    ………..AND the Kenyans HAVE IT EXACTLY RIGHT……..when the family is destroyed THE COUNTRY IS DESTROYED! I couldn’t have said it any better than Kariuki!

  52. oldsailor83

    ………moral turpitude is the primary cause of our own social DECAY.

  53. oldsailor83

    ……….Obviously Kenyans have a strong adherence to their Christianity. Sadly literally anywhere we look in America we see Christianity being attacked, by the SWINE who walk among us.

  54. oldsailor83

    bye bye…………Have a pleasant evening!

  55. oldsailor83

    CW……
    ……..in the last paragraph of your prelog you said I don’t know where Obama was born. That is the intelligent answer which Trump shares……..but I STILL BELIEVE that the CERTIFIED COPY of the Kenyan BC IS the true and CERTIFIED evidence of his Kenyan birth which Lucas Smith acquired. In fact he was willing to sign an affidavit attesting to the origin of the document. If it ever is proven FALSE Lucas Smith could find himself in the slammer for quite some time. My wife is friendly with a fellow retired nurse who was BORN IN Kenya also. I showed her a copy of the BC which Smith obtained……..she stated it looked like hers. She was born in Nairobi. Very interesting!

  56. oldsailor83

    …….she retired when she married. My wife still communicates with her from time to time. The lady now lives at Indianapolis. She has done quite well for herself…….she married a middle aged black doctor.

  57. oldsailor83

    bye bye again

  58. bob strauss

    Obama’s legacy: Jihadis with nukes

    Pamela Geller warns, ‘U.S. is under siege by a traitorous executive branch’
    wnd.com

    http://www.wnd.com/2015/07/obamas-legacy-jihadis-with-nukes/

  59. citizenwells

    oldsailor.
    Court of law.
    Zero actual proof of US birth for Obama.
    A mountain of circumstantial evidence indicates Kenyan birth.
    Verdict: born in Kenya.

  60. bob strauss

    Bill Clinton sexual-harassment accuser Kathleen Willey has launched an anti-Hillary Clinton website titled “A Scandal A Day.”

    The site is partially aimed at recruiting other women who may have been assaulted by the former president.

    Calling Hillary Clinton “without a doubt the most corrupt politician that this nation has ever seen,” Willey announced the launch of her new website Sunday on “Aaron Klein Investigative Radio,” broadcast on New York’s AM 970 The Answer and Philadelphia’s NewsTalk 990 AM and online.

    Willey, the former volunteer aide to Bill Clinton who says she was sexually harassed by the president in the 1990s, explained the website is part information-oriented and part political activism.

    “The Clintons have made it extremely easy for me,” she said in the radio interview. “I don’t have to do a lot of research, because it’s not just a scandal a day. It’s about two or three scandals a day. So what I’m doing is kind of a compilation of these scandals and explaining them in simple terms so most people can understand what’s going on, and what they’re up to and why they are lying every day.”

    One section of Willey’s website asks readers: “Are you being harassed, stalked, intimidated or persecuted by a person in position of power or public trust?”

    Listen to Klein’s interview with Willey:

    Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2015/07/bill-clinton-sex-accuser-launches-anti-hillary-website/#QLycf0THa5gq4Wml.99

  61. oldsailor83

    CW……..
    …………during the nearly three years of the name change research which I and two people who work within a “legal circle” in Fort Wayne conducted our mission was to find PUBLIC INFORMATION THAT SHOULD EXIST IF SOETORO WAS ON THE LEVEL. I am sure that you are aware of the hundreds of PI databases that exist in America. Information that one has is shared with ALL. …..and 99% of this information originates from ADJUDICATED COURT RELEASES into the LEGALS page of nearly every newspaper in America. The PI databases are often relied upon in determining a person’s true identity as well. This is because the BIRTHS, THE DEATHS, THE BANKRUPTCIES, LEGALLY GRANTED NAME CHANGES, MARRIAGES,AND DIVORCES ,AND ABOUT EVERY SORT OF INFORMATION BEING SOUGHT CAN BE FOUND AT THESE DATA BASES. At the outset we explored only the databases. But because these people also knew how to extract information from PUBLIC record for courtroom use WE CARRIED THE SEARCH TO INCLUDE THE SUPERIOR COURTS. All of the then existing databases were thoroughly searched, and there was NO EVIDENCE UNCOVERED to show that Soetoro had EVER filed a petition for name change, which if granted would have been included with all court adjudicated action RECORD which was RELEASED in the PUBLIC INTEREST, as is the case with LEGALLY GRANTED name changes. In many states it is required by law that a granted name change must appear for a period of at least 3 week days in a public medium. We then turned our attention to the Superior Court records (CLERKS) across America. Some of the Superior Courts were still NOT SEARCHABLE because they have yet to be computerised. There was a significant number. So a standard form letter was used, a copy of which was sent to all of the NON COMPUTERISED courts. All were returned along with clerk’s statements that there was no evidence, of any petitions for name change having been filed by the AFFIANT Barry Soetoro during the period from 1980- 2000. We learned the same thing from the records of the Superior Courts that were searched. I believe that NO STONE WAS LEFT UNTURNED. So legally the name Barrack H. Obama has not been legally assigned to anyone, during the specified interim period.(1980-2000). Therefore we can conclude that the person who was elected as Barrack H.Obama is really legally Barry Soetoro, and the Barry Soetoro name did not appear on any election ballots. So we have pure and simple ELECTION FRAUD. A legally valid BORN name of a POTUS candidate is REQUIRED by law to appear on the ballot.(This translates to GIVEN name, Middle Name, and SURNAME. While he was allegedly born as Barrack H Obama, his legally valid name became Barry Soetoro after he was LEGALLY ADOPTED by Lolo Soetoro, in Indonesia. Thanks to a lot of researchers over a lengthy period of time the truth has been uncovered. At least it is what I personally view as the truth. There is substantial evidence now existing which supports that he was born at Coast Provincial Hospital in Mombassa, Kenya. Further it is my BELIEF that the CERTIFIED copy of the BC which was obtained by Lucas Smith,while visiting Kenya is the real BC. FURTHER I BELIEVE THAT SINCE HE BECAME A CITIZEN OF INDONESIA, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN USELESS TO TRY TO HAVE THE NAME OBAMA LEGALLY RE INSTATED, BECAUSE HE WOULD HAVE NEEDED TO BECOME A NATURALISED CITIZEN OF THE US,AND THEREFORE WOULD BE INELIGIBLE FOR THE OFFICE OF POTUS. IN ADDITION BECAUSE HE HAD NO US BC HE COULD NOT LEGALLY FILE A PETITION FOR COURT ADJUDICATED NAME CHANGE. iN MOST STATES A CERTIFIED COPY OF A LEGALLY VALID BC WAS THEN ,AND STILL IS REQUIRED TO ACCOMPANY THE PETITION AT THE TIME OF FILING….WITHOUT WHICH THE COURT HAS NO RECORD OF THE NAME THAT IS BEING SUPERCEDED.

  62. oldsailor,

    I have not seen any documentation that Obama was legally adopted by Soetoro. Zilch. Nada. Nothing. If there was no adoption, a court adjudicated name change from Soetoro back to Obama is unnecessary.

  63. oldsailor83

    AND NOW…….
    ………..The beginning of the end……of the BSA as some of us once knew it is now, on the horizon. It was conceived as an organization which promoted, clean living Christian thought, and morally straight upbringing in our kids. Now it is OFFICIALLY allowing QUEER scout masters. I pray that the Boy Scout Council will simply disband all boy scout activity in America. This is clearly just one more twist of the perverted mentality of those who now are at the HELM OF THE BSA. In reality the BASTARDS want our youngsters to have their filthy relationships with and that is the bottom line.

  64. Jonah……to the best of my knowledge, of the knowledge of many who are a lot more knowledgeable than myself, have asserted that in order for Soetoro to attend school in Indonesia he had to be a LEGAL CITIZEN of Indonesia. This was only possible if the youngster was legally adopted. This has been commented on by many people most of whom have excellent knowledge of the Indonesian law as it existed THEN…… NOT NOW. As I remember Sharon Rondeau (PostnEmail) also looked into it and concluded that he could never have attended school without being an Indonesian citizen. Then later he is given government money as an exchange student and used the name Barry Soetoro. Had he been born in Hawaii he would not have needed exchange student government assistance. At Occidental college he used the legal name of Barry Soetoro. If he was not a citizen of Indonesia he wouldn’t be able to legally use that name at Occidental College. According to most of the knowledgeable people who looked into this aspect of it all concluded that he had used the Barry Soetoro name. At some point between Occidental and Columbia he began using the name Barrack H. Obama which is allegedly his birth name as given at Mombassa. and later used in Hawaii to illegally obtain US citizenship for him……….but a “CERTIFICATION” of live birth is NOT A “CERTIFICATE” of live birth. Sadly too many people think it has the same level of validity as a LONG FORM BC. IT DOES NOT. I believe that at some point down the road all of this will be CONFIRMED……….one way or another!
    BTW……..he is still between a rock and a hard place, there is still no evidence of a legally valid US BC. So anyway you stack it up he is a PHONEY. I even have a belief that he isn’t even a US CITIZEN AT ALL. At the rate the lies are now being propagated it is clear that there is GROWING FEAR amongst those who have supported him. Many of those who supported him in the past are now QUESTIONING his honesty, and otherwise distancing themselves from him. I know in my gut that he will be caught……..but the question is WHEN.

  65. CW, oldsailor83, all

    Found this post about the phony, illegal, queer, etc.
    residing in the White House, Well worth reading and saving.
    ——————————————————————————
    Questions about Barack Obama’s
    Eligibility and Citizenship

    Note: You might want to start at the Barack Obama Index Page, especially if you arrived here by using a search engine.

    Barack Obama has been elected to the office of US President. Long before election day, a lot of important questions came up. Because so much is at stake, these questions still merit further consideration.

    Subsections on this page:
    Is Barack Obama a natural born citizen?

    Donald Trump investigates Obama’s eligibility

    Barack Obama finally releases his birth certificate — but is it genuine?

    Sheriff Joe Arpaio Investigates Barack Obama

    Until 2007, Obama’s literary agent claimed he was born in Kenya

    Does Barack Obama have a valid Social Security number?

    The case of Lt. Col. Terry Lakin

    Obama ignores subpoena from Atlanta judge

    Other questions asked about Barack Obama

    Is Obama a natural born citizen?

    Get the details here:
    http://akdart.com/obama22.html

  66. oldsalt,

    I am into genealogy and I am a stickler for documentation so I can not assume there was an adoption. You’ve been looking for proof that Barry’s name was changed to Obama but I’m still looking for proof that it was first change to Soetoro. Until I see official adoption papers I can not accept for a fact that Obama was adopted by Soetoro. Think about it. Why would they enroll him in a Catholic school when they weren’t even Christian? An Indonesian school required citizenship for enrollment whereas the Catholic school could be more lenient. It is my understanding that this school accommodated many children of foreigners who lived and worked in Indonesia. It is true that Obama later attended Besuki School, one of the three best schools in Indonesia. By then, he could speak the Indonesian language and he had school records from Santo Fransikus saying he was Indonesian.

    I have not seen documents from Occidental showing that Barry attended under the name Soetoro. I’d like to see them if you know where they are located. It was cw who, a while back, brought up the idea that Barry may have received a financial aid as a foreign student because of his Kenyan citizenship, not Indonesian citizenship. But then I haven’t seen record of that aid either. Just speculations without proof. I’m from Missouri. SHOW ME.

    As to the COLB, it is merely a transcription of the info on the original birth certificate issued at the time of birth. A birth certificate can be amended a number of times and the resulting COLB could have totally different details than the original document. It is useless in establishing true identity.

    We both agree on one thing. Obama is a fraud. And he is destroying our country.

  67. oldsailor83

    Jonah……
    ……something which a lot of people are not paying attention to is his early days in Chicago. We need to find out exactly why the Chicago Bar association required the forfeiture of his as well as Michelle’s law licensures. I have read that it was because he had used another legal name, but when he was asked if he had done so he said NO. I am sure that you are aware that If a name is a LEGAL name of a subject it can only be attained either via birth, legal adoption, marriage, or legal name change. While there is not any records of his adoption by Lolo Soetoro, it is probable that these are also sealed, and will not be found until a FEDERAL COURT ORDERS them to be produced. At this point in time the likelihood of that occurring is about equal to HELL FREEZING OVER. BUT STRANGER THINGS HAVE HAPPENED ON EARTH, and I TRY TO KEEP AN OPEN MIND.

  68. citizenwells

    Andy Martin filed a formal complaint with the Illinois Board of Admissions, Attorney Registration and Disciplinary Commission and Illinois Supreme Court on March 13, 2007.

    “March 13, 2007

    Illinois Board of Admissions to the Bar
    625 S. College Street
    Springfield, IL 62704
    via fax (217) 522-3728
    with copies to:

    Attorney Registration and
    Disciplinary Commission
    Suite 1100
    130 E. Randolph Street
    Chicago, IL 60601
    via fax (312) 565-1806

    Clerk
    Illinois Supreme Court
    Supreme Court Building
    Springfield, IL 62706

    Re: Barack Hussein Obama (see attached)

    COMPLAINT
    Dear Board, Commission and Clerk’s Office:

    I am addressing the following complaint to all three of your offices because
    I am not sure which of you has jurisdiction to review the matters submitted
    below.

    Please deem this letter a formal complaint and request for investigation
    submitted to all three of your offices, although I understand that only one
    office will likely have authority to proceed with an actual investigation.

    1. Background facts

    a. Bar admission of Barack Hussein Obama
    Mr. Obama was admitted to the Illinois Bar on December 17, 1991 (see
    attached ARDC page). He is currently inactive.

    b. IBAB requirements
    The IBAB requires that bar admission applicants disclose whether they have
    outstanding parking tickets (see attached excerpt from current application).
    Obviously, in so far as the admission of Mr. Obama is concerned, the form of
    the 1991 IBAB application would be controlling.

    c. Outstanding parking tickets of Obama
    Mr. Obama recently paid outstanding parking tickets that were unpaid at the
    time of his admission to the bar (see attached news stories).

    2. Legal issues
    If in 1991 Mr. Obama signed an application to IBAB and denied that he owed
    outstanding parking tickets, he falsified his application and gained
    admission to the bar by fraud.

    3. Request for relief/investigation/action
    I would respectfully submit that Mr. Obama’s 1991 application should be
    scrutinized to determine whether he falsified his answers and whether he
    gained admission to the bar on the basis of fraudulent representations.
    If the investigating authority determines that Mr. Obama’s answers were
    deceptive, I believe an appropriate sanction should be imposed. It obviously
    should not be a major sanction but a public reprimand or other appropriate
    sanction should be imposed to protect the integrity of the admissions
    process.

    Respectfully submitted,
    ANDY MARTIN”

    Here is an email exchange from 2008 between Citizen Wells and Andy Martin.

    From: Citizen Wells
    To: Andy Martin

    Sun, Sep 21, 2008 7:37 PM

    What was the outcome of your March 13, 2007 complaint to the Illinois Supreme Court
    regarding Obama’s application?
    Thanks.
    Wells

    From: Andy Martin
    To: Citizen Wells

    Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 7:40 PM
    Nothing. Obama had already resigned as a lawyer and so they had no jurisdiction over him.

    From: Citizen Wells
    To: Andy Martin

    Sep 21, 2008 at 7:45 PM
    Thanks for the rapid response.
    However, is there not a penalty for supplying false information?
    Wells

    From: Andy Martin
    To: Citizen Wells

    Sep 21, 2008 at 7:48 PM
    Not if they have lost jurisdiction over the individual. They can’t punish someone who has resigned, which is why so many corrupt lawyers in Illinois resign before they are disbarred.

    https://citizenwells.com/2012/04/09/obama-illinois-bar-application-fraud-obama-lied-about-drug-use-other-names-and-tickets-andy-martin-complaint-letter-to-il-attorney-registration-disciplinary-commission/

  69. Andy Martin was the person who originally advised me how to obtain vital statistic info from Hawaii. Some day, when, he no longer has the power of the presidency, the truth about Obama will be revealed.

  70. CW……….
    ……….I can’t help wondering how many lawyers have forfeited their law practice licensure over some unpaid parking tickets? I personally think it would be FEW TO NONE. Costs like hell to earn a juris degree. I have my doubts that any person of sound mind would submit to forfeiture of his law license, unless there was a potential of being convicted of something far worse.

  71. The Phoenix “news” crew seems almost as anxious to hang Sheriff Joe Arpaio as the Obama regime and the Marxists he’s been battling virtually since Obama took office.

    Now that the investigation into the fraudulent document that Hussein Obama presented as being his birth certificate is moving into the home stretch, a liberal judge has decided to seize documents from Arpaio’s office, supposedly related to an ongoing “racial profiling” case.

    The woman plaintiff in that case, who is alleging some sort of racial profiling or other mistreatment by the Maricopa County Sheriff’s Office, is certainly well informed for a plaintiff as to the minute to minute decisions of a judge. It almost seems as if she’s acting in an unofficial official capacity as some sort of spokesperson. The “script readers” surely gave her biased story the weight of truth and that of representing the judge.

    Although the plaintiff asserts that the documents in question were withheld in violation of a court order, the officers interviewed, including MCSO Chief Deputy Jerry Sheridan denied any wrongdoing, stating that the first time any request to turn the documents over was received was during the raid.

    Perhaps this was an attempt by the Obama regime, through their judicial operative, to find out just how much Sheriff Arpaio knows about the fraudulent Obama documents. Raiding the Sheriff’s office and seizing documents is something that would be consistent with a fishing expedition on behalf of a guy who falsified his qualifications and supporting documentation to be president of the United States and has reason to fear his fraud is about to be exposed.

    Sheriff Arpaio stated unequivocally to Jake Tapper that the documents provided by Obama were a proven forgery and he’s got the proof. The time is running short for anyone seeking to destroy the evidence or the investigative files or at a minimum to learn what has been discovered in order to take “appropriate” actions.

    If that’s the case or even if it isn’t, Sheriff Arpaio isn’t going to be intimidated into backing off by this little exercise. If anything, his resolve to expose Obama will only be strengthened.

    http://rickwells.us/sheriff-joe-arpaios-office-raided-by-feds-as-investigation-into-fraudulent-obama-documents-winds-down/

  72. oldsailor83…..
    DITTO!

  73. Just a thought…. I am thinking that someone in the early times of Soetoro in Chicago, back stabbed the wrong person and they, had Soetoro investigated! In that investigation the dirt was found and sent to the Illinois Bar. You can bet that all involved may have met their maker! Is every one at the Illinois Bar still alive? hmm And that comes to the real name of Barry Soetoro and Michelle Soetoro. Both lying on their Bar license.

  74. oldsoldier79

    HERE’S YOUR JOKE FOR THE DAY…….

    A man dies and he goes to heaven. He arrives and on the wall behind St. Peter there are clocks.

    The man ask, ‘what’s whit the clocks St Pete” ?

    Peter says, “Well every human has his own personal clock on this wall and when you lie, the hand moves.”

    Peter said, “For example; there’s Sister Teresa’s clock. The hands on her clock have never move because she has never told a lie”. Then there’s Abe Lincoln’s, it has moved twice in his lifetime”.

    The man looks the clock wall over and says, “Where’s Barack Obama’s clock, I don’t see it one the wall ?”

    St Peter said, “Oh his clock is in Jesus’s office. He is using it for a ceiling fan”

  75. bob strauss

    SHTF ALERT — Judicial Watch Obtains Documents Proving Hillary Clinton Aides Knew About Benghazi Attack

    by James Beattie, WESTERN JOURNALISM

    Conservative watchdog group Judicial Watch obtained documents earlier this month proving that several top aides for then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton were aware the American consulate in Benghazi was under attack more than three years ago. This includes Clinton’s then-chief of staff and top confidant, Cheryl Mills.

    Four Americans were killed in the Benghazi attack: Ambassador Chris Stevens, information officer Sean Smith, and former Navy SEALs Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty.

    Judicial Watch is in the midst of a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) lawsuit against the U.S. State Department, the scope of which entails “any and all records concerning, regarding, or related to notes, updates, or reports, created in response to the September 11, 2012 attack on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, Libya.”

    On September 11, 2012, Maria Sand, a special assistant to Clinton, forwarded an email to Mills entitled “U.S. Diplomatic Mission in Benghazi is Under Attack.” Jacob Sullivan (then-deputy chief of staff for policy), Joseph McManus (then Clinton’s executive assistant), and several other special assistants in Clinton’s office also received the email. It read as follows:

    The Regional Security Officer reports the diplomatic mission is under attack. Tripoli reports approximately 20 armed people fired shots; explosions have been heard as well. Ambassador Stevens, who is currently in Benghazi, and four COM [Chief of Mission] personnel are in the compound safe haven. The 17th of February militia is providing security support.

    Mills was also forwarded an email sent by Scott Bultrowicz, former director of the Diplomatic Security Service. Judicial Watch noted he was fired following the review of the attack. The email was sent the day of the attack at 4:38 PM.

    DSCC received a phone call from [REDACTED] in Benghazi, Libya initially stating that 15 armed individuals were attacking the compound and trying to gain entrance. The Ambassador is present in Benghazi and current is barricaded within the compound. There are no injuries at this time and it is unknown what the intent of the attackers is.

    At approximately 1600 DSCC received word from Benghazi that individuals had entered the compound. At 1614 RSO advised the Libyans had set fire to various buildings in the area, possibly the building that houses the Ambassador [REDACTED] is responding and taking fire.

    The email had a chain of earlier updates from the same day, sent between 4:54 PM and 11:57 PM:

    “(SBU) DS Command reports the current shelter location from COM personnel in Benghazi is under mortar fire. There are reports of injuries to COM staff.”

    Update 2: (Subject: Update 2: Ansar al-Sharia Claims Responsibility for Benghazi Attack (SBU): “(SBU) Embassy Tripoli reports the group claimed responsibility on Facebook and Twitter and call for an attack on Embassy Tripoli.”

    “Embassy Tripoli reports the firing at the U.S. Diplomatic Mission in Benghazi has stopped and the compound has been cleared. A response team is on site to locate COM personnel.”

    Later that evening, an email was sent by Senior Watch Officer Andrew Veprek to various watch officials at the State Department confirming the death of Ambassador Stevens. It was later forwarded to Mills and McManus.

    http://www.redflagnews.com/headlines-2015/shtf-alert-judicial-watch-obtains-documents-proving-hillary-clinton-aides-knew-about-benghazi-attack

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