ADP jobs data to be released soon followed by Labor Dept Orwellian reports, Don’t tell me we are not living “1984”, Doublespeak thought control, Big Brother is watching you

ADP jobs data to be released soon followed by Labor Dept Orwellian reports, Don’t tell me we are not living “1984”, Doublespeak thought control, Big Brother is watching you

“His earlier thought returned to him: probably she was not actually a member of the Thought Police, but then it was precisely the amateur spy who was the greatest danger of all. He did not know how long she had been looking at him, but perhaps for as much as five minutes, and it was possible that his features had not been perfectly under control. It was terribly dangerous to let your thoughts wander when you were in any public place or within range of a telescreen. The smallest thing could give you away. A nervous tic, an unconscious look of anxiety, a habit of muttering to yourself — anything that carried with it the suggestion of abnormality, of having something to hide. In any case, to wear an improper expression on your face (to look incredulous when a victory was announced, for example) was itself a punishable offence. There was even a word for it in Newspeak: facecrime, it was called.”…George Orwell “1984″

“Nearly half of U.S. companies are reluctant to hire full-time employees because of the ACA. One in five firms indicates they are likely to hire fewer employees, and another one in 10 may lay off current employees in response to the law.

Other firms will shift toward part-time workers. More than 40 percent of CFOs say their companies will consider switching some jobs to less than 30 hours per week or targeting part-time workers for future employment.”…Duke University Fuqua School of Business December 11, 2013

Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.”…George Orwell, “1984″




I was sitting here anticipating the ADP payroll jobs report which will be followed by the Orwellian reports from the US Labor Dept on Friday.

It does not matter which set of numbers they present.

If you have been paying attention, no apparent good news will rectify the dismal jobs situation. The countless millions who have dropped out of the labor force or can only find part time work.

If you have not been paying attention, don’t care or have been brainwashed by the Obama camp, you will go on grazing mindlessly before the “slaughter.”

I will ignore for the moment the surveilance aspect of Big Brother as we are living with the NSA and drones. “1984” is loaded with such references.

Here are a few passages that relate to government promises.

“Winston examined the four slips of paper which he had unrolled. Each contained a message of only one or two lines, in the abbreviated jargon — not actually Newspeak, but consisting largely of Newspeak words — which was used in the Ministry for internal purposes. They ran:

times 17.3.84 bb speech malreported africa rectify

times 19.12.83 forecasts 3 yp 4th quarter 83 misprints verify current issue

times 14.2.84 miniplenty malquoted chocolate rectify

times 3.12.83 reporting bb dayorder doubleplusungood refs unpersons rewrite fullwise upsub antefiling

With a faint feeling of satisfaction Winston laid the fourth message aside. It was an intricate and responsible job and had better be dealt with last. The other three were routine matters, though the second one would probably mean some tedious wading through lists of figures.

Winston dialled ‘back numbers’ on the telescreen and called for the appropriate issues of The Times, which slid out of the pneumatic tube after only a few minutes’ delay. The messages he had received referred to articles or news items which for one reason or another it was thought necessary to alter, or, as the official phrase had it, to rectify. For example, it appeared from The Times of the seventeenth of March that Big Brother, in his speech of the previous day, had predicted that the South Indian front would remain quiet but that a Eurasian offensive would shortly be launched in North Africa. As it happened, the Eurasian Higher Command had launched its offensive in South India and left North Africa alone. It was therefore necessary to rewrite a paragraph of Big Brother’s speech, in such a way as to make him predict the thing that had actually happened. Or again, The Times of the nineteenth of December had published the official forecasts of the output of various classes of consumption goods in the fourth quarter of 1983, which was also the sixth quarter of the Ninth Three-Year Plan. Today’s issue contained a statement of the actual output, from which it appeared that the forecasts were in every instance grossly wrong. Winston’s job was to rectify the original figures by making them agree with the later ones. As for the third message, it referred to a very simple error which could be set right in a couple of minutes. As short a time ago as February, the Ministry of Plenty had issued a promise (a ‘categorical pledge’ were the official words) that there would be no reduction of the chocolate ration during 1984. Actually, as Winston was aware, the chocolate ration was to be reduced from thirty grammes to twenty at the end of the present week. All that was needed was to substitute for the original promise a warning that it would probably be necessary to reduce the ration at some time in April.”
“What happened in the unseen labyrinth to which the pneumatic tubes led, he did not know in detail, but he did know in general terms. As soon as all the corrections which happened to be necessary in any particular number of The Times had been assembled and collated, that number would be reprinted, the original copy destroyed, and the corrected copy placed on the files in its stead. This process of continuous alteration was applied not only to newspapers, but to books, periodicals, pamphlets, posters, leaflets, films, sound-tracks, cartoons, photographs — to every kind of literature or documentation which might conceivably hold any political or ideological significance. Day by day and almost minute by minute the past was brought up to date. In this way every prediction made by the Party could be shown by documentary evidence to have been correct, nor was any item of news, or any expression of opinion, which conflicted with the needs of the moment, ever allowed to remain on record. All history was a palimpsest, scraped clean and reinscribed exactly as often as was necessary. In no case would it have been possible, once the deed was done, to prove that any falsification had taken place. The largest section of the Records Department, far larger than the one on which Winston worked, consisted simply of persons whose duty it was to track down and collect all copies of books, newspapers, and other documents which had been superseded and were due for destruction. A number of The Times which might, because of changes in political alignment, or mistaken prophecies uttered by Big Brother, have been rewritten a dozen times still stood on the files bearing its original date, and no other copy existed to contradict it. Books, also, were recalled and rewritten again and again, and were invariably reissued without any admission that any alteration had been made. Even the written instructions which Winston received, and which he invariably got rid of as soon as he had dealt with them, never stated or implied that an act of forgery was to be committed: always the reference was to slips, errors, misprints, or misquotations which it was necessary to put right in the interests of accuracy.

But actually, he thought as he re-adjusted the Ministry of Plenty’s figures, it was not even forgery. It was merely the substitution of one piece of nonsense for another. Most of the material that you were dealing with had no connexion with anything in the real world, not even the kind of connexion that is contained in a direct lie. Statistics were just as much a fantasy in their original version as in their rectified version. A great deal of the time you were expected to make them up out of your head. For example, the Ministry of Plenty’s forecast had estimated the output of boots for the quarter at one-hundred-and-forty-five million pairs. The actual output was given as sixty-two millions. Winston, however, in rewriting the forecast, marked the figure down to fifty-seven millions, so as to allow for the usual claim that the quota had been overfulfilled. In any case, sixty-two millions was no nearer the truth than fifty-seven millions, or than one-hundred-and-forty-five millions. Very likely no boots had been produced at all. Likelier still, nobody knew how many had been produced, much less cared. All one knew was that every quarter astronomical numbers of boots were produced on paper, while perhaps half the population of Oceania went barefoot. And so it was with every class of recorded fact, great or small. Everything faded away into a shadow-world in which, finally, even the date of the year had become uncertain.”
Don’t tell me we are not living “1984.”



80 responses to “ADP jobs data to be released soon followed by Labor Dept Orwellian reports, Don’t tell me we are not living “1984”, Doublespeak thought control, Big Brother is watching you

  1. citizenwells

    Good morning Zach, et al.

  2. citizenwells

    “Furious Russia Will Retaliate Over “Illegal And Absurd” Payment Block By “Hostile” JPMorgan”

  3. citizenwells

    “A powerful magnitude-8.2 earthquake struck in the Pacific off Chile’s northern region on Tuesday, killing at least five people, causing landslides and setting off a small tsunami, leading authorities to order an evacuation.”

  4. citizenwells

    “ADP said private-sector employers added 191,000 jobs last month, up from 178,000 in February. A prior estimate pegged February’s increase at 139,000.

    “The job market is coming out from its deep winter slumber. Job gains are consistent with the pace prior to the brutal winter,” said Mark Zandi, chief economist of Moody’s Analytics, which prepares the report with ADP’s data. “Even better numbers are likely in coming months as the weather warms.””

    “The stronger ADP data contrast with a recent report on U.S. manufacturers that showed employment growth slowed last month, echoing separate data on Chicago-area businesses.”

  5. Fears of Volcanic Eruption as Bison Seen Fleeing Yellowstone Park (Video)

    “A number of bloggers are posting video of animals fleeing the Yellowstone Park this week.
    Some believe this may be a sign of an imminent volcano eruption.”

  6. Wow, I believe I would be driving in the other direction.

  7. I found this in the comments over at birtherreport. I can’t stand Rachel Maddow, so I guess that explains why I was unaware of any of this.

  8. Intel Chief Clapper: NSA Poked Into Americans’ Email, Calls

    “James Clapper, director of national intelligence, has confirmed in a letter to Sen. Ron Wyden that the U.S. government has been spying on Americans’ email and phone records without a warrant.

    According to the New York Times, which said it had obtained a copy of the March 28 letter, Clapper said intelligence analysts accessed the massive database of records the NSA collected and searched for individual emails and phone records.

    Wyden, an Oregon Democrat, called the practice “unacceptable.””

    Why is the only PC word allowed these days “unacceptable”? It covers everything even up to mass slaughter.

  9. CW……..
    Flied my income tax return this AM, and now I know for sure that “BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING”, but not only watching but asking nearly NINETY questions which they really have no RIGHT to ask. I refused to answer the questions on the pink form, except NAME ,RANK and HORSEPOWER, har har might get me some slammer time but what the hell, life has no guarantees anyway,and at least I get three hots and a cot.

  10. FLIED= NO………….Filed= yes

  11. CW…..
    I would never have expected Clapper to admit to anything. He is a MALE version of Lois Lerner with a little Harriet reid mixed in. Somebody must be standing on his toes.

  12. It is now April. I remain very disappointed in Mike Zullo. He must realize his credibility at this point is wrecked. He led us to believe he was the real deal, but has now mislead us. If Arpiao runs for anything, I urge folks not to support him. You can’t make promises and not keep them. We can’t put up with that, and I don’t believe their excuses are real. I will eat crow if they do find the courage to take action. It will take great courage to announce all this, but so far I believe they are bluffing or scared of the CIA or both, but you just can’t make promises and not keep them. My two cents.

  13. Observer……
    At least they appear to be in the correct lane of traffic!!!!!!!!

  14. Tina, again I will say that Sheriff Joe and Mike Zullo were looking at the end of March as a *target date;’ nothing was etched in stone and no date for the release of info was ever confirmed.

    Believe what you want, but I still have faith that they’ve got the goods.

  15. Tina…….
    While his intentions at the outset may have been honorable, Itoo have been thinking that something is amiss. I have received solicitations to contribute to Arpaio’s fund for his run for the governorship, but I have been quite hesitant to tender any more cash.

  16. ……but I also agree with what Suek has said. So I might just adopt a wait and see approach ………but I do NOT intend to wait forever.

  17. All one knew was that every quarter astronomical numbers of boots were produced on paper, while perhaps half the population of Oceania went barefoot. And so it was with every class of recorded fact, great or small. Everything faded away into a shadow-world in which, finally, even the date of the year had become uncertain.”
    Don’t tell me we are not living “1984.”
    CW, wow! We are seeing the above carried out in the “reporting” of ACA sign-ups. Anyone who is supposed to know what the true figures are re. how many have actually paid, what the ages are, how many were previously dropped from prior plans, etc., etc., suddenly has either a lapse of memory or says that the info is unavailable. Who is kidding whom?

    Then when Obama gave his victory speech touting 7.1 million……. Well, anyone with a smidgeon of common sense (greatly lacking these days) knows that number is, no doubt, unsubstantiated. It could just as well have been 5.5, 6.8, or 7.5 million. Just pick a figure.

    We are now living in the grand age of deception and falsehood. And they have no choice now but to perpetuate it to save face. One lie to cover another. I hate it!!! “Truth is fallen in the streets.” No nation that has departed from the truth can long survive.

  18. oldsailor81 | April 2, 2014 at 12:33 pm |

    At least they appear to be in the correct lane of traffic!!!!!!!!
    Funny! More sense than libs….prob. because they’re still God patterned.

  19. Tina, if they keep getting more information and the net gets wider as the information comes in, wouldn’t you rather they take their time and we can get more scumbags put behind bars? The March date was set as a target date last fall….

    I’m so sick and tired of people complaining about the work that the Cold Case Posse are doing, they are risking their lives, working around the clock and spending weeks away from their families to get this “project” done. The people that are complaining are more than welcome to sacrifice as much as the Cold Case Posse and THEN you can complain about how they are handling the case, otherwise, please keep quiet.

  20. Vice President Lyndon B. Johnson was within a couple of days of being indicted for crimes when everything changed on November 22nd, 1963.

    This administration has a history of making up the rules as they go along.

    Throw in a disaster, man made or otherwise, and the next thing you know we are living under martial law.

    Every day that goes by that this fraud continues scares the hell out of me.

    Think about it. Every radio talk show host in the country is scared to death of mentioning these crimes. Forget seeing any real news of this on the tube.

    Please watch that Maddow video and then ask yourself what our corrupt government is capable of.

    I think everyone here has a earned the right to complain all they want.

    If you don’t like it…..

  21. zachjonesishome — From the previous thread, you asked me to check Yellowstone in the Bible code. I found its Hebrew spelling at a skip of 1356 in the book of Numbers chapters 14 thru 20 at a 1.89% probability. The Hebrew word for volcano, “Har-Ga’ash,” comes up at a skp of 1807. The two “finds” are compact with a matrix of 452. “To erupt” comes up three times at low skips and the 8th of Iyyar 5774 as well as the 8th of May 2014 seem very prominent in the encryptions relative to the same matrix.

    The plain text has to do with Israel being sent into the wilderness for 40 years and the rebellion of Korach, when the earth opens up and swallows the rebels who were against Moses. In versus 31 thru 33 of chapter 16: “. . the ground clave asunder that was under them: and the earth opened her mouth and swallowed them up, and their houses . . . and all that appertained to them went down alive into the pit and the earth closed upon them and they perished . . ”

    I don’t want to scare anyone or cause panic, but might one take a clue from the bison and other animals leaving the area? The reason I left Nevada a couple of years ago is I had a dream or vision in which I was told the land was holy and was to be purged by the Holy One. There were a lot of earthquakes in Reno at the time where I was living. So, at great expense my wife and I moved back to Northern California. I notice we are now outside the ash fall-out predicted if the super volcano erupts. Anyway, may G-d have mercy on us all and may we align with His will for us in our individual lives.

  22. JulieT, no I don’t agree because I was an I investigator too during my career. You get the guy and add to the charges. That is how it works. If we waited for every charge everyone would be walking the streets. Everyday in courts,all over America judges add to charges over the original ones. This doesn’t pass the smell test. You don’t wait for perfection.

    You can fall for their excuses, but then the investigators should shut their trap and not announce they have something. They didn’t have to get our hopes up. They should have run silent. They blew a bunch of smoke, got everyone hoping and waiting in vain, gnd have no announcement. Cases break when the public pressures law enforcement to act. Tbey need to be pressured to act now. No more excuses.

  23. Sorry for the typos. Guess my iPhone is not ideal to type on.

  24. From looking for “Soetoro” in the Bible Code rather than “Obama” as I mentioned in the previous thread, it sure looks to me like his real legal name is Soetoro and he was born in Mombassa, Kenya. The strange thing is, from the encryptions that I’ve found, they weigh heavily in favor of Malcolm X being the true biological father. So I wonder, could Obama Sr have agreed to provide paternity status to cover for Malcolm X, who later went to Kenya and visited with Tom Mboya, Obama Sr’s sponsor at the U of Hawaii? Was this to thank Obama Sr for giving paternity status to his son?
    Obama Sr was the only African student in Hawaii at the time. Stanley Ann, to cement the coverup for his true paternity, went to Kenya where the baby was born and paternity claimed? She then returned to Hawaii with the infant, but he now had status as the son of Barack Obama of the Luo tribe in Kenya. Later, in his return trip from Mecca, we know Malcolm went to Kenya for a visit and stayed with Tom Mboya. Mboya worked for the CIA in Kenya. He was later killed (assassinated) in 1969.

    Malcolm, however, was assinated in 1965. Stanley Ann married Lolo Soetoro in March 1965, the month after Malcolm X was killed. That is when her son was adopted by Lolo and took the name of Barry Soetoro. We have no record of a name change since that time, to Obama or other name/s. But the possible connection of Malcolm X to Obama Sr. via Tom Mboya in Kenya is curious to say the least. Also, the CIA connection and use of Muslims in the Cold War (see Ian Johnson’s book, A Mosque in Munich).

  25. oldsailor81

    Dean M……
    Hear is a little more logic regarding Soetoro’s birth in Kenya. You must keep an open mind as I say this…….think for a moment ….How would the Kenye Health Department or the Coastal Provincial Hospital even HAVE any record of Obama 11 if he was’nt born there. There would have been no record at all. Plain and simple. This is certainly a facet to consider when reasoning is being expended. If he WAS’NT born in Kenya Lucas Smith would not have been able to obtain a CERTIFIED Obama BC, and it would never have been certified by the officer in charge if it was PHONEY BALONEY…..further he would never have signed the document to begin with.

  26. oldsailor81

    When you follow the tracks which do show in the sand,you will eventually discover that the very strong probability exists that Soetoro is NOT EVEN a naturalised citizen of the US. He couldn,t receive money as a foreign national and be a legal US citizen. Either he received the money FRAUDULANTLY,or he WAS still a foreign national….and as such he would have had to become a NATURALISED citizen, and therefore could NOT LEGALLY HOLD THE OFFICE OF POTUS. You can thank Mr. Schatt of Hawaii, for the ALTERED wording on the Hawaii COE form which Mzzzzzzzzz. IMPORTANT signed as being TRUE. She is an accessory to TREASON.

  27. Tina, I’m sure you were a great investigator, but the stakes here couldn’t be higher. The people that will be charged can VERY easily make evidence or people disappear. There is no room for error. There is SO much at stake. Once they know what evidence is there, they can intimdate people, do pretty much anything they want. Also, so many things have to be figured out a head of time, who will then become President, who would do the arrest, how will they immediately fill so many positions that are necessary, how quickly can they change things over so our enemies don’t take advantage of our situation and attack one of our bases, etc.

    If what we are hearing is true and Bozo used to work for the CIA, then the CIA is complicit and what do we do then? These are just things off the top of my head. There are huge implications for every aspect of this.

    The Cold Case Posse are literally risking their lives and their families lives for this cause, don’t you think that they want this to be over soon?

  28. oldsailor81

    As an investigator you would understand the legal implications of the term “PROBABLE CAUSE”. For many years probable cause was enough to get search warrants,and telephone taps,as well as direct surveillance. This also includes arrest warrants. But suddenly we are told by the DOJ that where an ILLEGAL POTUS is concerned it is NOT ENOUGH. So much for the Soetoro Division of the DOJ. They are in his hip pocket……so long as the payola continues they will remain ready to SINK WITH THEIR STINKING SHIP. They can’t allow anything because they are all in it up to their eyeballs. If they would reverse course now a hell of a bunch of them would feel the IMMEDIATELY bite of the BIGHT.

  29. bob strauss

  30. oldsailor81

    Julie T
    Without divulging my reasoning,I WILL SAY that after the ARREST WARRANT is issued the rest is not difficult at all. If the potential prisoner decides to make a fight of it he only adds to the list of charges against him. In view of Soetoro’s ILLEGAL position he would not have a leg to stand on, or (NO STANDING) if you will. or if someone on his staff attempts to interfere, he too can face arrest. Even if ONLY probable cause exists there is still justification for arrest, if the issueing judge of the warrant so states. But you must keep in mind that the probable cause is usually determined by the prosecutor.

  31. Dean M – Thank you very much for your efforts. If it did blow, they (the cult of fear) wouldn’t have to worry global warming again until I’m long gone.

  32. oldsailor81

    Bob Strauss……
    The last I read about Yellowstone is that the cauldron is approximately 45 miles across. I guess that would make it a SUPER DUPER VOLCANO. This was published by the US Geoligical Survey. They are the same people who a number of years back said that the level of volcanic activity under the Artic Ocean, has been increasing…..which would account for the shrinking of the Arctic Ice shelf.

  33. bob strauss

    I blame the courts, congress, and the “news” media, for lack of action against the usurper. The CCP is doing what others have failed to do.

  34. oldsailor81

    Interestingly a few years back there was a 9.0 quake off the Chilean coast, and about 10 years prior to that a 9.2 in Alaska. The latter quake allegedly caused even the worlds most accurate chronometers(Atomic) to end up in error by 1 second. How that would occur is for somebody above my pay grade to figure out, but the story was originally carried in Newsweek if I remember correctly. Perhaps someone else remembers reading it as well.

  35. bob strauss

    If Yellowstone blows, it will be a game changer. Food shortages for sure, many will die, America will look like Pompeii, and as usual government will fail.

  36. oldsailor81

    Bob Strauss……
    The head of the Soetoro octopus is huge. and like it’s real counterpart it has such a level of verbal agility that it can slip through verbal cracks only a fraction of an inch wide. That is what the overeducated wordsmiths do best. They can verbally twist, bend,or hammer a statement into an entirely different meaning. Such people are present in our DOJ, and subsequently there are 127 Federal Judges who are like a UNION on strike. But when just one of them makes either a verbal,or legal mistake it will be seen and heard by the people who are in the best position to utilise the mistake and expand it into the total collapse of the LIBERAL ELECTED MORONS. Once the Judges have been dealt with the rest will be a PUD.

  37. If Yellowstone blows…. the whole damn world, can all kiss it goodbye…..that’s not fantasy …that’s fact…….check it out.

    p.s. the buffalos know something we humans don’t…….

  38. oldsailor81

    Bob Straiuss…..
    A friend of mine visited Pompeii along with his wife, a number of years back,and he told be and showed me pictures of buildings upon which was emblazoned the so called “DICKEY BIRD”. In the interest of the blog I will not elaborate,only to say that a dickey bird is a certain part of the male body which has a pair of wings attached. This allegedly is stuff which originated with the original Roman Empire, which seems to emphasise what their main interests ultimately became. They decorated their buildings with the dickey bird,as cornice statuets. Until I saw the photographs for myself I thought he was pulling my leg. I have wondered if photographs of the cornice stone work of the real old buildings is online. Might be interesting to some of the sexually confused people. The LEGEND of Pompeii…….har har

  39. Julie T | April 2, 2014 at 1:08 pm |
    I agree. There are few who have spent the real time and effort and endured the threats to attempt to solidify what’s still out there….beyond the failures of ill prepared earlier attempts with the corrupt justice system.

    Also, people must know that unless “sure things” are prepared for now all of the evidence could be for naught from here out….never to be used or presented again if another corrupt judge dismisses everything the CCP presents publicly with prejudice this time around.

  40. Also….Did anyone besides me, notice that strange moon last night ?

    Here in Charlotte, it was way low to the west by 9pm….and the crescent was at the bottom of the moon…I have never seen a crescent moon like that before in my life…..

    Anyone have any comments on this?

  41. bob strauss

    You’ll Want To Scream After Finding Out How Much Money Was Spent On Each Sign Up For Obamacare

  42. Interested Bystander

    Julie T,

    You commented:

    “The people that are complaining are more than welcome to sacrifice as much as the Cold Case Posse and THEN you can complain about how they are handling the case, otherwise, please keep quiet.”

    The answer to this request is NO WAY.

    We have the RIGHT to have our own opinions, we are FREE THINKING individuals, and can agree to disagree.

    I respect YOUR opinion that Zullo needs to “dot all of the I’s and cross all the T’s”, but he has got to have at least ONE solid case against SOMEONE.

    Is he afraid the others will “run”?

    And I’ll state once more, I do NOT believe the charges have to brought as one case.

    So we wait, and complain that Zullo’s not going fast enough for us.

    I would suggest that MOST of the concrete evidence was received before March 31.

    Why not charge whomever, and say that it is a continuing investigation.

    As we have it now, there are criminals running the street, possibly terrorizing people, or falsifying documents as I write this.

    People that Zullo claims he has the “goods” on.

    I believe it’s high time we get this ball rolling.

    Obama has been at this for quite some time. I believe it’s time to stop this INeligible president.

    His target date is past by 2 days. How long will this “overtime ” last? Another 2 months? Until AFTER the mid term elections? How long do we wait until we call “April Fools” on Zullo?

    Just asking.

    And one more question:

    WHY is Gallups allowed to see or hear the evidence, but we aren’t??

    Is Gallups “special”?

    “Oh it’s UNIVERSE shattering, you wait and see, it’s the biggest thing EVER.”

    As oldsailor states so eloquently


    We’re waiting………………………..

  43. Interested Bystander

    Observer commented:

    “Also, people must know that unless “sure things” are prepared for now all of the evidence could be for naught from here out….never to be used or presented again if another corrupt judge dismisses everything the CCP presents publicly with prejudice this time around.”

    I believe that even if all of the I’s are dotted and T’s are crossed, the Judicial system we have now will do EXACTLY that.

    Case closed.

  44. oldsailor81

    When the D-BIRDS start falling from the old buildings in Pompeii, it might be the result of a Yellostone eruption. …..EARTH SHAKING!!!!!!.

  45. Interested Bystander


    I will comment this about Maddow,

    IF she were as fired up about Benghazi, Fast and Furious, the NSA illegal tapping, the CIA’s INTERNAL crimes and the such, I would be watching her constantly.

    What I see when I watch her is someone who is one dimensional.

    Maybe she should try multi tasking.

  46. oldsailor81

    You are exactly right. Having PROBABLE CAUSE while being enough for a judge to issue various warrants on, might not be adequate for a potential arrest of Soetoro. He and his cohorts are MASTER WORDSMITHS,they can make UP into DOWN with a few words of their TWISTED logic, and it makes any sort of arrest or legal action against them appear like some child put it together,and the judge promptly throws it out and after so doing he/she receives their special ration of green stamps from their boss. That is the level of criminal behavior that America is up against. Another way of defining it would be to say it is an abstract of the Daley Chicago strategy, where UP first became DOWN. Yes you will need stuff powerful enough to put him as well as all of his cohorts away permanently,once it is shown in a courtroom. Unfortunately I do not believe that anything no matter how powerful it is will be allowed by any judge. That is why I have said many times we MUST find a way to IMPALE at lest one judge with his own words… which point he will have NO RECOURSE BUT TO ALLOW discovery. When that happens Soetoro and company are standing with one foot in prison and the other on a banana peel.

  47. bob strauss

    Finally good news regarding the demorats…
    Obama Bankrupts DNC

  48. oldsailor81

    Bob Strauss…..
    I went to IJR and looked at the statistics…….which screams a story….there are a hell of a lot of HORSES ASSES walking the streets of America. If there are that many horses asses who signed up then it is easy to extrapolate how many of them will be voting democratic,in both November and in 2016. They could win the election if my beliefs are sound. Yep the horses asses are more stupid than I ever imagined. Instead of standing up and collapsing the bullshi# canopy, they whined, coughed up all their money, and rolled over,still whining. Wait until they try to use their alleged INSURANCE……har har, their whining could turn into uncontrolled compulsions to KILL. Maybe they will be accompanied Debbie Schultz.herself. har har har! Wouldn’t that be something……. Schultz whipping MZZZZZZZZZ. IMPORTANT’S ASS.

  49. Perhaps a suggestion…maybe a rep from this site with ties to CCP can find out more with firm deadlines they can commit to with some info. Congress and law enforcement were briefed months ago. I have to believe they have more than probable cause. The CIA and Obama know what is there. Plus there needs to be a backup plan in case we loose one of these brave men. I hope they have that. They went public months ago for a reason. They got hopes up for a reason. We need to know why and deserve to know why. If Mr. Wells or his rep can give us updates straight from CCP that might help.

  50. oldsailor81

    I would have to say at this point….if everything is on the UP and UP with respect to Zullo and Arpaio, I would be the first to support their silence,because I would believe that there is a good reason. If Zullo,and Arpaio are truly serious about their evidence, and it is as strong as it has been said to be, I am doubtful that they would reveal any part of it until they have the necessary strength to go public. Further it is doubtful that they would even reveal a tiny portion of it to a go between. If their evidence is exactly as they have described it they would probably be fools if they layed their cards on the table rightr now. But up to a point I too feel like you do, but we can’t allow our feelings to compromise an investigation which allegedly is still ongoing. I wish I could say more but I will NOT GET DRAGGED INTO IT.


    Here is something to think about…it didn’t use to be this way…as late as 1950, the majority of all food and product shipping was by rail…it was faster, cost less, and didn’t clutter up the highways with trucks and heavy traffic……but then the Teamsters, ALF/CIO and other unions got involved and killed the railroads as prime movers of America’s products, and look what we have now……….A BRIDGE TO FAR
    The banner headline for the American Trucking Association’s web site reads: “The trucking industry is the lifeblood of the U.S. economy. Nearly 70% of all the freight tonnage moved in the U.S. goes on trucks. Without the industry and our truck drivers, the economy would come to a standstill. To move 9.2 billion tons of freight annually requires nearly 3 million heavy-duty Class 8 trucks and over 3 million truck drivers. It also takes over 37 billion gallons of diesel fuel to move all of that freight. Simply – without trucks, America stops.” With such an important job you would think the government would maintain the highways and bridges these trucks depend on.

    The Interstate 75 (I-75) corridor is a major six to eight lane north-south Interstate Highway that runs from Florida through Georgia, Tennessee, Kentucky, Ohio, and up into Michigan to the Canadian border. The report from the Office of Highway Policy Information from August 2013 says upwards of 45,000 trucks pass through Kentucky and Ohio every day, all across one single 50-year old bridge. The Brent Spence Bridge opened in November 1963 between Covington, Kentucky and Cincinnati, Ohio and carries in excess of 200,000 vehicles every day. In spite of the huge volume of goods hauled by trucks across this vital north-south highway, nothing has been done to replace the overloaded bridge. The debate over replacing this bridge has been going on for many years with the states of Ohio and Kentucky unable to find the resources to pay for a billion-dollar replacement. The federal government has shown no interest in the project other then allocating 30-million dollars for various studies.

    The Brent Spence Bridge is just one such bridge in the long journey from Florida to the Canadian border.. there are many such bridges on this major trucking corridor.

    To put things in perspective, the Barack Hussein Obama pro-Muslim Democrats in Washington have been spending trillions (trillions with a T) on rebuilding the entire infrastructures in Iraq and Afghanistan, that include new bridges, highways, and $545 million alone for 3 water treatment facilities plus new hospitals and electrical systems as well as constructing the new U.S. Embassies there that also included a billion-dollar fortress in Pakistan. That’s enough to pay for a thousand new bridges in America.

    If that isn’t extravagant enough then the new decoration being installed in front of the embassy ($450,000 camel) in Islamabad, Pakistan should get everyone’s attention, both for its misdirection, its cost and for its uselessness. It seems like Obama can spend the American taxpayers money for everything other than something to benefit the citizens.
    The bottom line of this post reads; If a terrorist organization every wanted to bring America to her knees fast…all they have to do is destroy a few of the bridges on the north-south I-75 corridor, and a few bridges on the east-west corridor in the heartland over which 70% of all fright and food products moves each day 24/7/365….then sit back and watch as the Americans starve to death. Ten days is the max a person can go without food and still function….far less than that from lack of clean water….

    This possibility scares the living daylights out of me…. no bullets or shots need be fired, no bombs need to be dropped from planes and exploding, no nuclear radiation to contaminate things for thousands of years in the future, no destruction of buildings or personal property, yet the end results would be the same as a major attack on our country with people killing their neighbor for a crumb of bread…

    Think about it for a moment……do we have A BRIDGE TO FAR scenario in America , or is my imagination just getting the better of me?

  52. bob strauss

    World Bank whistleblower Karen Hudes joins Gary Franchi for bombshell interview where Ms. Hudes reveals the secret US Constitution introduced in 1871. Hudes asserts that the US is not being run according to the US Constitution that everyone knows but instead the country is being run according to a second, secret Constitution and that we are all being “snookered.”

  53. bob strauss

    Rep. Gutierrez on the House Floor talks amnesty for ILLEGALS: The republicans threatened to impeach the pResident. Presidential candidates and entire cable TV networks questioned the pResidents own immigration status. We had Birthers denying the pResident was born in America demanding to see his papers… What a LIAR!

  54. The place in the Bible where it says, “Soetoro is from Kenya.”

    Leviticus 4:1–10:1
    Matrix 186

    1. B.SoToRO-Mi-KeNYA (B.Soetoro [is] from Kenya) skip 1297, probability by chance: 0.00164% (spell: bet,sin,tav,resh,vav,mem,kaf,nun,yod,heh)

    2. BARRY skip 188 (bet,alef,resh,resh,yod) (flush with Soetoro)

    3. MeKhORaH (birthplace) skip 186 (exactly on the matrix) (mem,kaf,vav,resh,heh) and touches 4 below.

    4. Mi-MOMBaSsA (from Mombassa) skip 5 (exactly located touching “birthplace” item 3 above) (mem,mem,vav,mem,bet,sin,heh)

    The probability that “birthplace” would be at that exact skip touching “from Mombassa” is a negative probability of 2.04e–005. In other words, satistically impossible by chance alone.

    This is all tightly compact in a range of 13,319 letters. I wish I had the means to show you how this all appears on a computer screen. It is mind boggling. (The lower case letters signify what can be represented with vowel signs, the upper case, the actual letters. A final “A” is usually represented by the letter Heh.) For what it may be worth, I’m sharing this. Anyway, Soetoro may think he is fooling us, but he cannot fool the Almighty.

  55. bob strauss

    Jim Garrow was on

    Must download and listen to this show! He has contacts that pretty much agree with McIneriny. The 20 engineers on the plane were in the process of stealing a new technology and bringing it to China (espionage) This new technology can pass light through a solid object. He said the plot to steal this technology was discovered and the 20 were followed onto the plane. The plane was taken over by US officials and diverted to Diego Garcia. The 20 were taken off the plane and the pilots were paid a large sum to then take the plane with the rest of the people to Pakistan. Fate of these people – sacrificed for this break through technology.

  56. bob strauss

    Liberal media is not happy about Rand Paul hiring a birther pollster Fritz Wenzel, who found that only 51% of Americans believe Obama to be an eligible president

    Posted on | April 1, 2014

  57. Re: the ft hood shooting….Ice recently recently released 68k criminal illegal aliens, many into texas…..Sure hope this is unrelated or O has some splainin to do. Not all illegelas are Mexican…

  58. Check out this blog who ask would you vote for Hillary Clinton in 2016? I love it!

  59. For those who might be interested, I feel it is implied in Bible Code encryptions in Numbers 7:1–12:1, matrix 286, that B.Soetoro became an Indonesian citizen effective January 1, 1968. The matrix is 286

    1. B.SoeToRO (bet,sin,tav,resh,vav) skip 858
    2. Le-AZRaCh Ha-AReTz [became a citizen of the land]
    (lamed,alef,zayin,resh,chet,heh,alef,resh,tzaddi) skip 1 (in text)
    3. Be-INDoNeSIA [in Indonesia] (bet,yod,nun,dalet,nun,sin,yod,alef) skip 1146
    4. Mi-JAKaRTA [from Jakarta] (mem,yod,alef,quf,resh,tav,heh) skip 263
    5. Be-Yom-ha-Rishon [on the fist day] in the plain text
    6. Be-Chodesh-ha-Rishon [in the fist month] in the plain text
    7. YR-68 (yod,resh,samech,chet) skip 863
    8. YNUAR [January] (yod,nun,vav,alef,resh) skip 2

    Again, it is how it appears on the screen that is so impressive and suggestive. This is for any who may be interested, who may also have the program to check, etc. Anyway, it is something to go by when we have little else. (The plain text in these concerns religious duties for the native born and the resident alien.)

  60. Dear God,

    Now we have to hear another speech from Obama pertaining to the recent shootings, whereby he will declare this is not a war against the beautiful religion of Musoooolums.

    Instead, it will be dubbed as “Attempted work place violence”..

  61. In regard to Arpaio and Zullo.
    Just speculating because I have no idea what is being done behind the curtains.
    BUT, what if Arpaio is getting together the sheriffs to take that sonofabitch, Psyco, narcissistic, thieving, lying POS down at the White House??

  62. Tina | April 2, 2014 at 5:24 pm |


    This has to be kept under wraps; no one, except a few select people, know what this info is.

    Can you understand why it has to be this way?

  63. Interested Bystander


    I respect you Sue, but I have to comment:

    IF Zullo has information enough to charge one person, it seems to me that when you charge that person, you could also ask the court to have released information that the defense has that the prosecution doesn’t have.

    As I know our legal system, requested information that is NOT turned over becomes quite damaging to the side that doesn’t release those doecuments to the other side.

    So to me, the best action I could think of for Zullo, is for him to get a prosecutor to charge someone and ask for discovery.

    I guess to me this “secrecy” is something that I find disturbing, because if they have the “goods” on people, and they are suggesting that they can’t release that information through that person being charged, because they are snagging other people in the web, just seems like a lame excuse.

    In my mind, they could charge these people that they have evidence on, and THEN go after those who got ensnared in this conspiracy.

    I’ll be the first to admit that I’m no lawyer (and neither is Zullo), but I’ve watched Maddox enough to know that discovery is allowed AFTER charges are brought.

    But again, I respect your view of this, I am simply giving the “other side”, which I believe in my free thinking mind.

    And I know about what happened to Lakin, he asked for discovery, and it was denied.

    But that was a military adjudication, NOT a civilian one.

  64. Interested Bystander

    Hey All,

    I’d just add that there has got to be someone who states this,

    I STILL think this has been taken on the wrong track.

    Obama’s father was NEVER an American citizen.

    The Constitution states that you must be a Natural Born Citizen, at least 35 yers old and lived in country for the last so many years (14?) years.

    To be a Natural Born Citizen one MUST be born in Country to citizen parentS.

    Obama does NOT meet the Natural Born Citizen requirements.


    If someone throws Ark in your face, simply state that the decision stated that Ark had all RIGHTS of a Natural Born Citizen, NOWHERE in the opinion does it state that Ark IS a Natural Born Citizen.

    Being President is NOT a RIGHT, it is a privlege, like driving, and you MUST meet OTHER criteria to drive (like pass a test) and you MUST meet other criteria to be a REAL Natural Born Citizen (like having citizen parentS).

    Double header Ballgame!!

    We’ve been playing THEIR game by going after where he was born, and the BC.

    We HAVE the evidence right in front of us, but yet we ignore it.

  65. Hi IB,

    A few points: First, you mention ‘the court.’ We know exactly where the court system has gotten us; this is why I believe that Zullo is *not* going through the court system. We also see what multiple attempts at discovery have gotten us: Nothing. Orly (whether you’re a fan of hers, or not) has been shooting for discovery all along and…Nada. Zip. Zilch. Discovery will never be permitted in any court where a/k/a Obama is concerned!

    So, OK, present the evidence, arrest, and try to prosecute. If the courts are stacked the way we know they are, we will again get nowhere. I believe that Sheriff Joe and Mike Zullo are taking a different track entirely. This is why I’m trying to be patient.

    Recall, if you would, that the birth certificate/Selective Service registration evidence was put out there a while ago (and the media virtually ignored it) however, with each piece of information that was obtained, even more followed. Digging deeper into the rabbit hole… To say that this investigation has taken on a life of its own would be an understatement! I don’t think that anyone involved in this had any idea what would be discovered.

    Now, towards the end of 2013 (I believe), Sheriff Joe announced that in addition to the evidence the CCP had already gathered, a criminal investigation was about to be opened; we had never heard this before, so something nefarious was discovered during the course of the investigation. This is where we are right now.

    Ya know, IB, when this comes out, I want it ALL to come out in a manner that can’t be disputed. Sheriff Joe, Zullo, and the CCP are all trustworthy, in my book. They know what they’re doing; often times, I have no idea what I’m doing :).

    I’m trusting them to do what they know will bring results, and also to get it 100% correct. Remember, this is a case, the likes of which have never before been seen, and an extraordinary case demands extraordinary measures, even if we don’t think they’re operating according to ‘normal procedure’; this is far from normal.

    Sit tight, keep your powder dry, and wait for the lid to be blown off this whole charade; the American people deserve that!

  66. Interested Bystander

    Let me also comment this and then I’ll be done:

    I believe that this “born on US soil to be a natural born citizen” as the ONLY requirement to be a Natural Born Citizen is a story like the 7.1 million people that have signed up for Obamacare (he called it that YESTERDAY, he NOW owns it hook, line and SINKER).

    It’s indoctrination, no doubt about it.

    I know most people here KNOW this, but those who may stop by and read my gobbly goop might learn something, or at least look in to it for themselves like I did.

    NOWHERE does it state that you ARE a Natural Born Citizen simply by being born on US soil, or because you were born to citizen parentS.

    You must have BOTH.

    Now I would give exception to those who are ORDERED by our Government to serve overseas.

    I find it hard to disqualify someone like a son or daughter of a 20 year old private who is ordered to the DMZ in South Korea from being President.

    But I also understand the argument that BOTH criteria MUST be met.

    Good night all.

    Thanks for allowing me to “speak my mind” CW.

    I am grateful to you.

  67. IB,

    The problem is that we really don’t know who his daddy was. We’ve been told it was a guy from Kenya and if that’s true, that’s the ballgame, as you say.

    The birth certificate is indeed irrelevant if there was one non-citizen parent.

    If, however, Obama, Sr., was somehow coerced (or paid) to lend his name to this child from who-knows-who and who-knows-where, all bets are off!

    The bottom line is that we just don’t know…

  68. Interested Bystander

    But SueK,

    Don’t they have to present their evidence in Court?

    I understand where you are coming from, I honestly do, and like I stated earlier to another post (maybe from Observer), I believe that even IF all I’s are dotted and T’s are crossed, the process will take place in a COURT, and that Court could very well say that it STILL isn’t enough.

    Do you think this will be reported without WINNING in Court?

    The case won’t even be mentioned (besides on the internet), UNTIL it is done and guilty/not guilty verdicts are rendered.

    The fake birth certificate is a GREAT example.

    Zullo PROVED it was fake, a made up document from many different documents, but other than the internet where have you seen this reported on?

    The selective serivce document is ANOTHER blarring example of a fake document.

    Show me ONE other selective service document without a 4 digit year stamp.

    I suggest you can’t.

    But yet it is ignored by the media.

  69. Interested Bystander


    So you suggest DNA?

    Where do we get SR’s DNA?

    I’m simply using the documents presented.

    I STILL find it hard to believe that “African” was listed on the COLB.

  70. Interested Bystander

    I will add this:

    I don’t think the REAL BC will ever be presented, unless it is the BC from Kenya that Lucas Smith has.

    But IT states SR is the father.

    I’m so confused.

    And the announcements in the two newspapers would have been LEGIT if Maddy sent in the paperwork to HDoH.

    I STILL think we ought to get Maury on this.

    There’s so many candidates.

    It would be GREAT television.

  71. Hey, even if Obummer claims Malcolm X is his father, and an American citizen as was his mother, and can prove it (dna from Malcolm’s kids), and it turns out he is 100% natural born American, I think legally he might be up a gum tree coz’ he’s proclaimed all along its Obama, Sr., so now he owns that, and he fraudulently run for Prez under an assumed name with intent to defraud.

  72. Good night all…I’ll leave you for a while…enjoy this Magnolia Wind from the deep south tonight…it’s 75 and just a great night for almost anything .

  73. I suspect that this occurred in just about every state ……..

    MASSIVE VOTER FRAUD IN NORTH CAROLINA: 35,570 Voters With Same Last Name and DOB Voted in Two States

    The North Carolina Board of Elections has discovered THOUSANDS of residents who voted in both North Carolina and another state in the 2012 elections.
    Pajamas Media reported:

  74. Another interesting Bible Code “find” today using “Barry Soetoro” in Exodus 25:1–29:1, matrix 146:

    1. BaRrY-SOeToRO (bet,resh,yod,sin,vav,tav,resh,vav) skip 291
    2. Mi-KeNYA [from Kenya] (mem,kaf,nun,yod,heh) skip 6
    3. Va-Mi-MOMBaSA [and from Mobassa] (vav,mem,mem,vav,bet,sin,heh) skip 146
    4. 5721 [1961] (heh,tav,shin,kaf,alef) skip 4
    5. AV-23 [Hebrew date] (alef,vet,kaf,gimel) skip 584
    6. AuGUST-5 (alef,gimel,vav,sin,tav,heh) skip 438

    Note: 438 and 584 are mutiples of the matrix 146. 291 misses only by 1.

    Also notice that the birthday is August 5 not August 4. In Kenya it would have already been the 5th while in Hawaii still the 4th due to the international date line. So maybe a phone call was made from Kenya and they had it announced in the papers in Hawaii giving August 4 as the date??? I know this probably seems very obtuse to some if not most, but I’m posting it anyway in case it might help in the search for the right information (look for an August 5, 1961 Kenya birth certificate, etc)

  75. bob strauss

    Jonah | April 2, 2014 at 10:42 pm
    I’ll bet they all voted for the usurper.

  76. Good Morning CW, everyone.

  77. citizenwells

    Good morning Zach, et al.

  78. Morning, IB, CW, et. al.,

    To be honest, I think that only a select few know how the CCP evidence will be presented, and the track they’ll take. If it goes to a court, try to find one judge who hasn’t been threatened or bought off; if it goes to Congress, that’s a different matter.

    Recall that when this investigation began and evidence started to pour in, Sheriff Joe said that they had to find the proper way to release the evidence; therein lies the rub: How do they proceed with this?

    So, I don’t know; wish I did.

    If barky IS an NBC, he has lied about his origins and fabricated a grand story. That, in and of itself, should be enough to remove him; how that will be done is anyone’s guess. Kiltie’s comment above is spot on!

    I’m thinking that the criminal investigation may have something to do with murder. Just a guess.

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