Massive NC voter fraud discovered, Over 35 thousand voters same first and last name DOB registered in NC and another state voted in 2012, Senate Leader Phil Berger and rep Thom Tillis

Massive NC voter fraud discovered, Over 35 thousand voters same first and last name DOB registered in NC and another state voted in 2012, Senate Leader Phil Berger and rep Thom Tillis

“On Monday June 23rd, 2008 the SBI initiated an investigation into allegations that employees of the Alamance County Health Department specifically Dr.
Kathleen Shapley-Quinn and Nurse Karen Saxer were knowingly and willingly falsifying patient medical records.”
“At the request of some patients, Alamance County Health Department provided work notes and prescriptions in alias names. Providing these services would assist illegal aliens with maintaining assumed or stolen identities, which may be a violation of state, or federal law. (Identity Theft, Fraud, etc.)”
“Veronica Arias, of Texas, reported on May 2nd, 2008 to the ACSO that someone in Swepsonville, NC had stolen her identity and was using same to be employed.
Maria Sanchez was arrested on May 6, 2008 by investigators of the Alamance County Sheriff’s Office for stealing and using the identity of Veronica Arias.
Sanchez used the name, SSN, DOB, of Veronica Arias who is a living resident of Texas.”…Alamance County NC Sheriff 2008 report
“North Carolina is the latest state featured by Project Veritas in its series on how America’s electoral system is extremely vulnerable to voter fraud. During last week’s North Carolina primary, James O’Keefe and his colleagues demonstrated how easy it is to obtain ballots even if the person has publicly professed not to be a U.S. citizen.”
O’Keefe also tells WND about his group’s visit to the University of North Carolina, where a dean and a program director laugh off confessions of voter fraud and even seem to encourage it. Yet a day later, both officials tell conservatives that voter fraud never happens.”…WND May 15, 2012

“We control life, Winston, at all its levels. You are imagining that there is something called human nature which will be outraged by what we do and will turn against us. But we create human nature. Men are infinitely malleable.”…George Orwell, “1984″



From Phil Berger for Senate April 2, 2014.
“Tillis, Berger Issue Joint Statement On Newly Discovered, Alarming Evidence Of Voter Error And Fraud”

“Raleigh, N.C. – House Speaker Thom Tillis (R-Mecklenburg) and Senate Leader Phil Berger (R-Rockingham) issued a joint statement Wednesday in response to more alarming evidence of voter error and fraud discovered by the North Carolina State Board of Elections.

Initial findings from the Board presented to the Joint Legislative Elections Oversight Committee today show:

  • 765 voters with an exact match of first and last name, DOB and last four digits of SSN were registered in N.C. and another state and voted in N.C. and the other state in the 2012 general election.
  • 35,750 voters with the same first and last name and DOB were registered in N.C. and another state and voted in both states in the 2012 general election.
  • 155,692 voters with the same first and last name, DOB and last four digits of SSN were registered in N.C. and another state – and the latest date of registration or voter activity did not take place within N.C.

These findings only take into account data from the 28 states who participated in the 2014 Interstate Crosscheck, leaving out potential voter error and fraud in the 22 states that do not participate in the consortium.

Additionally, during an audit of death records from the Department of Health and Human Services, the Board discovered:

  • 50,000 new death records that had not previously been provided to the State Board of Elections.
  • 13,416 deceased voters on the voter rolls in October 2013.
  • 81 deceased voters that had voter activity after they died.

The findings were made possible by a new election reform law passed by the General Assembly last year, which called on the Board to improve the accuracy of voter registration lists and combat potential fraud by cross checking information on voting records with those of other states.

“While we are alarmed to hear evidence of widespread voter error and fraud, we are encouraged to see the common-sense law passed to ensure voters are who they say they are is working,” said Tillis and Berger. “These findings should put to rest ill-informed claims that problems don’t exist and help restore the integrity of our elections process. We appreciate the State Board of Elections bringing this critical information to light.””

From Citizen Wells December 11, 2012.

“How Obama stole the 2012 election was not a either or scenario. It wasn’t just voter fraud or absentee military ballots not counted or the Santa Claus appeal or the organizing strategy of the Obama Campaign or the massive record breaking contributions. It was a combination of those efforts.

I do not yet have a number for absentee military who were disenfranchised. I know for a fact, however, that they were not given a fair chance. I recently spoke to a family member who was in Iraq in 2008. He did not receive a ballot then.

Are you aware that there are over 800,000 undocumented aliens in Florida alone? In the period leading up to the 2008 election there was so much confusion on the part of social workers about illegal aliens and providing them with voter registration forms in Alamance County NC (just east of Greensboro), that the Sheriff’s Dept. documented the controversies in a paper. The Alamance Sheriff’s Dept. has subsequently been harassed by the US Justice Dept. for their efforts to uphold the law.

Obama and the Democrat party have done their best to permit illegal immigration and are now in the process of making them legal to broaden their voter base even more.

From The Examiner December 10, 2012.

“President Obama carried 70 percent of the Latino vote”

“Obama will introduce his own immigration reform proposal in January or February, and people familiar with the president’s plan say it will probably mirror a 2007 Democratic bill that would provide a path to citizenship for nearly all of the immigrants now in the country illegally, which some estimates put as high as 20 million people. That goes much further in dealing with illegal immigrants than Republicans have ever been willing to go, but Obama is betting that a newly chastened GOP will be more willing to negotiate.”

Read more:

Forget the popular vote spread between Obama and Romney. There were literally just a handful of counties in Ohio, Pennsylvania, Florida and Virginia that decided the election based on the electoral college. The useless states of California and New York accounted for the popular vote spread.

WND has presented an excellent article on how Obama stole the 2012 election.

From WND December 10, 2012.


“Following Barack Obama’s re-election, accusations from some quarters have held that his campaign stole the election through vote fraud. Others claim no vote fraud occurred, and that the election victory resulted from the Obama campaign’s vastly superior get-out-the-vote effort. One RedState diarist has even gone so far as to announce that commenters complaining that the election was stolen will be banned from the site.

With all of the swirling allegations, where does the truth lie? While there have been many proven cases of vote fraud in previous elections, and many credible allegations of fraud in this election cycle, was the cumulative total of all fraud sufficient to throw the election for Obama? After all, Obama’s team ran an intensely focused, highly organized get-out-the-vote effort. Republican efforts were, by comparison, disorganized and nowhere near as comprehensive or sophisticated.

Still, members of the president’s team did everything possible to rig the game in their favor. They took liberties with the law Republicans would never dare attempt and obstructed voter-integrity efforts at every turn, while the vast political-media-entertainment-education-union-nonprofit complex went all in to promote Obama’s narrative.

Democrats and their media allies also engaged in what has fairly been described as a dishonest and “vicious” campaign to discredit the Republican nominee while steadfastly  shielding the administration from its many scandals. Any of these could have sunk Obama’s reelection prospects had the media reported them with the enthusiasm they showed in attacking and spreading disinformation about Romney.

When it comes to outright vote fraud, however, let’s examine first those allegations with the greatest potential for skewing election results.

100 percent vote for Obama

In some inner city precincts, Obama garnered between 98 and 100 percent of the vote. This was most frequently noted about Philadelphia, Pa., and Cleveland, Ohio. Incredulous observers stated, “Third world dictators don’t even get 99 percent of the vote.” Rush Limbaugh quipped, “I mean, the last guy that got this percentage of the vote was Saddam Hussein, and the people that didn’t vote for him got shot.”

But these statements confuse turnout with votes. In communist countries like Saddam’s Iraq, every voter is indeed required to vote for the one choice on the ballot, and participation is close to 100 percent all the time. However, in U.S. elections, turnout has run at about 60 percent for the past three presidential races.”

“Does this mean that vote fraud didn’t occur in these locations? No, but if it did, it was likely not enough to throw the election. One issue that warrants a closer look, however, is absentee ballots. In Ohio, 29.5 percent of the vote came through absentee ballots in 2008 (2012 results are not finalized yet). In Cuyahoga County in 2012, absentee ballots made up 40.5 percent of the total.

According to the New York Times, use of absentee ballots nationwide has tripled since 1980 and now stands at about 20 percent of total ballots cast. The Times notes, “While fraud in voting by mail is far less common than innocent errors, it is vastly more prevalent than the in-person voting fraud that has attracted far more attention, election administrators say.”

Absentee ballots are particularly vulnerable to vote fraud. In one notorious recent case in upstate Troy, N.Y., eight local Democrat politicians were indicted and four have pleaded guilty to falsifying absentee ballots. This was a local election and these politicians won their seats before getting caught. Anthony DeFiglio, a Democratic committeeman who pleaded guilty, said that absentee ballot fraud was a “normal political tactic”:

[It is] an ongoing scheme and it occurs on both sides of the aisle. The people who are targeted live in low-income housing and there is a sense that they are a lot less likely to ask any questions… What appears as a huge conspiracy to nonpolitical persons is really a normal political tactic.

Bob Mirch, the former Republican legislator who first discovered this fraud, said, “It’s an insider game. It takes insiders to do it, and I think it takes insiders to catch those who try to steal the election. … It’s easy to do it and yes, it’s easy to not get caught …” Frank LaPosta, a former Troy, N.Y., city council president said he got run out of the Democratic Party for speaking out against the vote fraud.”

“Just the same, it is clear that Democrats are up to something at inner city polls. Their eye-popping – and illegal – stonewalling of poll watchers strongly suggests nefarious activity. The left’s nationwide campaign to discredit voter integrity efforts as “voter suppression” and their obstinate battle against voter ID laws only serve to reinforce this impression. Following are a few examples of realvoter suppression and threats to voter integrity that occurred in 2012:

  • 75 GOP vote inspectors were ordered to leave Philadelphia poll locations by Democrat poll judges. One judge was caught on audio. A court order sent them back but who knows what went on while they were gone? These poll locations were all within the 59 precincts where Romney received no votes.
  • In Philadelphia, the Community Voters Project, an ACORN clone that employs some former ACORN workers, shredded Republican voter registrations. This is not the first time they have been in trouble.
  • The Florida AFL-CIO threatened True the Vote and Tampa Fair Vote with legal action for submitting voter registration challenges.
  • Maryland Representative Elijah Cummings issued a highly publicized threat against True the Vote and Election Integrity Maryland just for checking voter rolls. EIM found 11,000 questionable registrations, including 1,566 dead voters. The Maryland Board of Elections took no action.
  • Cummings also attacked the Ohio Voter Integrity Project with the same baseless claims.
  • Think Progress falsely claimed True the Vote was “under investigation” by Rep. Cummings, when in fact he has no legal authority to do so.
  • Despite overwhelming nonpartisan public support for voter ID laws, Attorney General Eric Holder’s Justice Department and liberal jurists have delayed, emasculated or defeated ID laws in Texas, Wisconsin, South Carolina, Arizona and Pennsylvania.
  • Holder has vowed to fight voter ID laws as restricting voters’ rights.
  • The Obama administration “spiked investigations” of eight states that had major voter roll problems.
  • The Holder Justice Department conspired with Project Vote on National Voter Registration Act (aka Motor Voter) enforcement lawsuits, which force state and local agencies to become, essentially, low income voter registration drives.
  • In 2009 DOJ announced to its attorneys that it would not enforce voter roll maintenance laws because it wouldn’t increase voter turnout.

“Finally, whatever the actual level of voter fraud that occurred in the 2012 election, the potential for future fraud is truly staggering. Pew Research Center published a report revealing election rolls in a shambles nationwide. They found:

  • 24 million invalid or inaccurate voter registrations
  • 1.8 million deceased voters
  • 2.75 million registered in multiple states.

As noted earlier, Cloward and Piven’s Motor Voter law is responsible for much of this mess.

James O’Keefe’s Project Veritas found 30,000 dead voters still on the rolls in North Carolina, a state Obama won by only 14,000 votes in 2008.”

“llegal alien voting

Glenn Cook of the Las Vegas Review Journal reported in early November that illegal aliens were being pressured, even threatened, by Culinary Union Local 226, to register and vote. Cook related the story of two illegals who told him about it. In Florida, an NBC investigative report found that illegals were registered to vote and indeed have been voting.

This year, immigration officials uncovered a massive document fraud ring operating in Baltimore that has provided thousands of fraudulent driver’s licenses, green cards and Social Security cards to illegals for years. Such documents are apparently easy and inexpensive to obtain.

DHS believes about one-third of illegals in the U.S. are people who have simply overstayed their visas. Many of these people could have obtained driver’s licenses while still legal. Since licenses typically expire after a much longer period, it is reasonable to assume many of these people could be registered to vote.

Because of the National Voter Registration Act (Motor Voter), anyone who obtains a new driver’s license is automatically registered to vote. Furthermore, the NVRA does not require voting officials to verify proof of citizenship when people register. In states where illegals can obtain driver’s licenses, including California, Washington, New Mexico and Utah, they are likely already registered to vote. How many illegals actually vote on a systematic basis is not known, but many do.

In fact, Colorado Secretary of State Scott Gessler found that about 5,000 Colorado illegals voted in the 2010 midterm elections and 12,000 were registered to vote. In 2012, he sent letters to 3,900 people identified as potentially illegal voters. Gessler’s office intends to conduct a thorough statewide analysis once all results are official.

These illegal voters should obviously not be ignored. They could spell the difference between victory and defeat in many cases.

One aspect of Colorado’s voting history merits especially close scrutiny. Colorado has an approximately equal number of registered Republicans (1,157,373) and Democrats (1,151,198). Historically, unaffiliated voters in Colorado have numbered roughly the same. Between 2008 and 2012, however, their numbers grew by a whopping 23 percent, some 248,000 people. Unaffiliated voters, now numbering 1.3 million, are the largest single voting bloc in Colorado. Who are these people?

According to the U.S. Census Bureau, between 2000 and 2010 Colorado’s population grew by 728,000. Fully 42 percent of these were Hispanic and almost all, 303,000, were of Mexican descent. A Gallup poll shows that Hispanics in general (52 percent), but immigrants especially (60 percent), tend to identify as independent. Yet most affiliate with Democrats (52 percent) versus Republicans (23 percent).

How many of these were illegal, and how many of them voted? A study on illegal immigrant demographics by the Center for Immigration Studies estimates Colorado’s illegal population at 167,000, so to pin Obama’s Colorado win on illegals alone would require almost all of these to have registered and voted.

According to the Colorado Secretary of State’s office, Coloradan voters must show a state-issued ID if they have one; if not, a utility bill or Social Security number will suffice. It is likely that some illegals voted and could have contributed to Obama’s victory, but it is unreasonable to assume a large scale illegal vote would have gone unnoticed. Gessler’s observation of a few thousand illegal voters is much more realistic.

Obama’s Colorado win was, however, secured with the unaffiliated vote, and many of these were Hispanic. According to Latino Decisions, an election eve poll claimed that 87 percent of Latinos in Colorado supported Obama over Romney. Nationwide, they found that the GOP was supported by only 25 percent of Hispanics. An October 2012 Pew Hispanic Center poll showed only 21 percent of Hispanics supporting Romney to 69 percent for Obama.

Despite Republican post-election hand-wringing, this is not likely to change much with any kind of concessions to the Hispanic community.

The reasons are straightforward and not dependent upon immigration reform. According to the CIS study, 57 percent of illegals in the U.S. live at or near poverty. Granted amnesty, would this group suddenly embrace the entitlement-reform-minded Republican Party en masse? Who would get credit for amnesty in their minds, Democrats, or the Republicans they dragged to the table? The very act of Republicans “conceding” to Democrats on amnesty and immigration “reform” declares Democrats the victors.

More relevant are the sentiments among legal immigrants and Hispanic U.S. citizens. According to CIS, well over 60 percent of legal immigrants from Mexico and Central American countries – i.e. the vast majority of Hispanic immigrants – live near or in poverty. Among U.S. born Hispanics, 50 percent of households with children are led by single mothers, 55 percent of households with children utilize welfare, and 45 percent of all Hispanic households pay no income tax.

They will probably not be voting Republican anytime soon.”



Thanks to commenter Jonah.



183 responses to “Massive NC voter fraud discovered, Over 35 thousand voters same first and last name DOB registered in NC and another state voted in 2012, Senate Leader Phil Berger and rep Thom Tillis

  1. citizenwells

    Good morning Zach, et al.

  2. citizenwells

    “It was so fitting that Obama sauntered into the Rose Garden on April Fools day to proclaim the wonderful success of Obamacare. We are the fools for allowing this fool and his fellow fools in Congress to further bankrupt our country with this disastrous government run clusterf*ck. He is a dangerous empty suit. The only thing that mattered to him and his sociopathic control freaks in the last two months was hitting an enrollment number that he could tout as success. Making sure there are enough doctors in the plan or ensuring excellent healthcare services once you get sick is not part of their agenda. And they certainly don’t worry about the 7.1 million people paying their premiums. That’s the insurance companies’ problem.”

  3. citizenwells

  4. Yes, and when the insurance companies need money either because premiums are underpaid, and/or claims for medical benefits are too excessive, then guess who reimburses the insurance companies? This is all a part of the nefarious plan to further bankrupt us. Traitors all.

  5. citizenwells

    “Every effort needs to be made to facilitate coordination among the states in the development of accurate and up-to-date registration lists. States should also take advantage of other publicly available databases that indicate which voters have moved or died. All these efforts must, of course, remain compliant with NVRA rules concerning voter notification and removal from rolls. Protecting the privacy of voter data must also be a top priority. However, data-matching tools have advanced to the point where seemingly intractable registration problems can be addressed by simple coordination between the states using publicly available databases concerning “who” lives “where.” Two existing projects are emblematic of these efforts.

    The first is the Interstate Voter Registration Crosscheck Program (IVRC). Twenty-nine states have joined that program.75 Participating states exchange and compare voting data after a federal election to ascertain whether voters in different states, sharing the same name, birthdate and other information, voted in the same election. Matched records are then forwarded to the participating states that can then cull them to see if any such matches represent attempts at double voting that should be forwarded to law enforcement. To ensure privacy, the project uses a secure FTP site that deletes all participating states’ data after running the crosscheck.”

    Click to access Amer-Voting-Exper-final-draft-01-09-14-508.pdf

  6. citizenwells

    “Presidential Commission on Election Administration
    Robert F. Bauer, Co-Chair”

    Click to access Amer-Voting-Exper-final-draft-01-09-14-508.pdf

  7. citizenwells

    Oct 24, 2013

    “Republican interstate ‘voter fraud’ detection program yields little fraud”

    “The program was developed by Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach, a Republican who has become a figure of increasing national prominence in what conservatives (Republicans, mostly) bill as a national effort to project the integrity of elections — and what civil libertarians, voting rights advocates, and Democrats (generally) call a systematic strategy to suppress voting.”

  8. citizenwells

    “In the week ending March 29, the advance figure for seasonally adjusted initial claims was 326,000, an increase of 16,000 from the previous week’s revised figure of 310,000. The 4-week moving average was 319,500, an increase of 250 from the previous week’s revised average of 319,250.”

  9. Thank you Jonah
    Thank you Mr. Wells

    Wow! My head is spinning! To read the numbers for voter fraud just down right angers me. We have know for years though. We have got to get to work before November. Maybe someone can get into the electronic voting machines and destroy the fraud inside. Then those states will have to go the ‘paper trail’ way!

    I cry for my country….

    BTW…Has any one noticed that both times of the Fort Hood shooting the shooter was stopped by a female? Thank God this female did not have to fire that shot…but if it were me I would had filled that scumbag full of holes.

    God Bless Fort Hood victims and their family and friends.

  10. CW…….
    “Fool me once …shame on you!….Fool me twice…SHAME ON ME!

  11. CabbyAZ…….
    Guess who then becomes “OWNED” by the FED.

  12. Ginger……A primary way to make even the MORONS do a double take is to put the evidence in front of their face in terms that a he/she can understand……..PICTURES! …If you take a minute to think about it the translation to pictures is pretty simple.

  13. CW……..
    I scanned the Robert Bauer THING,but nowhere in the entirety of the literature did I see anything relating to “ELIGIBILITY OF CANDIDATE”…….perhaps there is an explanation,,,,,,,har har! Could part of the explanation have any relationship with a person by the name of ROBERT BAUER?

  14. OT


    Tornado in your area last night; hope you’re OK!

  15. A figure of 35,000 erroneous votes, seems to me to be probably about what the Liberals planned into their illegal vote TWISTING. They twist words by the millions so it only seems logical that they will endeavor to twist ANYTHING,that they think needs to be TWISTED. Hell nothing was done to correct the 1,000,000 vote discrepancy in California, which turned out to be largely the DEAD VOTING. When you have a vote count that is 50% over the total REGISTERED VOTERS it would seem to me that somebody would yell…..”TILT”!

  16. This is the time of year when MOTHER NATURE gets out her VACUUM CLEANER to do her spring housecleaning. When you hear the roar of her vacuum cleaner it is time to get into the deepest place you can find…..IN A HURRY!

  17. First we see a JIHADI WHACKO SHRINK decide to do his thing a while back. and once again we see another NUT CASE who was simply being MONITORED. Obviously the MONITORING wasn’t what was needed. The NUT was able to buy a firearm and use it to erase 4 people’s lives. We all know that it isn’t the firearm which does this. It is the mentally impaired person holding the weapon. While it seems a bit harsh,it is clear that there needs to be a hell of a lot more done than simply MONITORING such a person. He needs to be closely WATCHED. Probably next to impossible to do, yet with a little ingenuity it seems POSSIBLE. Here is one idea…..Why not pair up all military personell. By that I mean that wherever one goes,or whatever one does, the other is alway ON STATION as well. If one wants to go to purchase something the other must accompany him/her. It would be part of the military obligation….after all they allegedly do this on the battle field, so why not watch each others flanks OFF THE BATTLEFIELD?

  18. bye bye……..rain has stopped,got som stuff that I need to do. Have a great day.

  19. CW, in order to impliment such a vast scheme of voter fraud, you have to have a powerful, well organized system at your disposal. What group, agency, organization can we pinpoint as running this operation for which Soetoro is the front man? I have my own theory (the out of control Central Intelligence Agency). Are there any other ideas? The reason I say CIA (along with other Intel agencies subserviant to it) is it has next to no oversight and an unlimited budget and can do what it chooses under the heading of “national security.” We are being held hostage to the fear of economic collapse, civil unrest and being cut off from foreign oil. The elites submit to this and let the CIA with its control by Leftwing/pro-Muslim personnel who have moved into strategic postions of power, call all the shots and rig our elections. That is how it looks to me.

  20. oldsailor81 | April 3, 2014 at 11:08 am |
    Guess who then becomes “OWNED” by the FED.
    Hi Old Sailor,
    You “guess-ter, Chester”, to be sure!! That was the aim in the first place, wasn’t it?

  21. CitizenWells and fellow posters,
    What I witnessed, here in Florida, was massive numbers of people from the northeast, arriving right before the elections in 2012. Specifically, large number of Democrats from states that are NOT part of the Crosscheck. Maryland, Conn, New York. People that I suspect vote by absentee in the North, and then in person in the south. ‘Modern Carpetbaggers’ is how I refer to them.


  22. Dean,
    It’s not the CIA, FBI, or any other government agency they just turn a blind eye. It’s the DNC, Saudis, and George Soros with foreign money. American elections aren’t fair, and they aren’t even American anymore.


  23. Dean M,
    After hearing some of the testimony of the high-ranking CIA official yesterday before Congress, I can see how the CIA is so vast, secret, and uncontrolled. Here he took the opinion of CIA analysts re. Benghazi in the early hours after the attack, even though they were not on the ground, and he did factor that into his understanding of what happened. Right then I thought, “There is plenty of room for rogue elements to operate without oversight.”

    Thanks to your informative posts over the years re. CIA operations (very free-wheeling apparently) I have a much better understanding of this very secret organization. I wouldn’t doubt at all that it could well have a hand in rigging the outcome of elections, as you suggest. Its arms can reach into almost every area of our lives. When there are uncontrolled mavericks in high places operating without any oversight, anything can happen.

  24. citizenwells

    Thanks Pete.

  25. Pete,
    We need to go back to paper ballots and stop allowing the polls to be open for a large number of days before the official election day. Also, there needs to be much more control over absentee ballots. For years and years we did fine with the polls open from 6 AM to 6 PM, or similar, for ONE DAY only. That wouldn’t eliminate all fraud but it would help. There is just too much room and time for hanky-panky.

  26. citizenwells

    Pete, you are correct.

  27. citizenwells


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  28. Pete — Tkhey’re not just turning a blind eye. Look at who is in control. Who is Director of the CIA? Brennan. He is a Leftist who is thought to be a convert to Islam. He speaks Arabic fluently. He is pro-Muslim at the very least and very Liberal. Who is President? Who is in control of the military? The government agencies are not just turning a blind eye. They have been co-opted by the pro-Muslim Left. That is how the Left works and that is also how the Bedouin Muslim mind works–to use their enemies’ strong points against them, i.e., fly our own aircraft into our own structures and symbols of power. Now it is to use the agencies set up for national security against us and to use the highest office of the land against us. We are as a whole really naive and in denial. Those turning a blind eye are our representatives in Congress, the courts and the Media, to include Conservative Talk Radio.

  29. I can’t think of any other group that has the resources and that has any more of a vested interest in keeping the puke in power. IMHP they are the ones that created him.

    He is like the turtle on a fence post. He didn’t get there by himself.

  30. Oops, IMHO 🙂

  31. Or, it could be “In My Humble Pinion.”

  32. “CabbyAZ Pete,
    We need to go back to paper ballots and stop allowing the polls to be open for a large number of days before the official election day. Also, there needs to be much more control over absentee ballots. For years and years we did fine with the polls open from 6 AM to 6 PM, or similar, for ONE DAY only. That wouldn’t eliminate all fraud but it would help. There is just too much room and time for hanky-panky.”

    I am 100% with you on that. 1 person, 1 vote, no cheating.


  33. Dean,
    I have no respect for the current head of the CIA. During the election cycle it was Petreas. He was attacked by the administration because he wouldn’t like about Benghazi, remember the ‘affair’ thing. That was politics, you don’t play ball then we will get dirty and ruin your life. Petreaus decided to refuse to be blackmailed. I doubt he would instigate voter fraud, but he might not have ‘looked’ for it.


  34. bob strauss

    Report: Congressman Cory Gardner Hires
    Private Investigator To Look Into Obama ID Fraud

  35. oldsailor81

    The rigging of MECHANICAL voting machines is a big problem for the rigger simply it does the same thing to BOTH sides. Sort fo like shoveling manure against the tide. har har For many decades the old “one vote at a time” mechanical machines worked fine for the entire country, but ever so slowly came the ALLEGED electronic machines which probably with the right sort of management are an improvement over the mechanical BONGERS,…..BUT with the electronic machines have come the DISHONEST RIGGING of them. Particularly those that are computerised,and ONLINE. It is comparatively easy to install a KEYLOGGER program in any one or more of them. Sadly there are no tests that will reveal the presence of such software. That is primarily why it is imperative that we return to what we know works. That will probably be easier said than done,at this late date. The LIBERALS would RIOT.

  36. oldsailor81

    Bob Strauss…..
    While I do not in any way doubt that a private investigator has investigative ability, I find myself wondering what exactly what Cory Gardner thinks his private eye is going to uncover that Zullo,and Arpaio havn’t already learned. Again this is wasteful because he must cover ground that has already been covered. But as I recall there was a lady who conducted private investigation,and she was able to uncover quite a bit, particularly regarding Soetoro’s financial stuff relating to his days as a foreign student. I believe that she was principle in getting a lady who worked in that office to come forward. Unfortunately something occurred which caused her to turn away form revealing what she knew. She was probably advised that if she revealed the information it would be her very last words forever.

  37. bob strauss

    Former House Speaker Tom DeLay said that Obama’s attempts at bypassing Congress is illegal and pure tyranny. Please SHARE.

    He said, “I could go on and on [about] what we’re living under right now and the American people need to wake up.… We need a revolution for the Constitution.”

  38. bob strauss

    oldsailor81 | April 3, 2014 at 3:37 pm |
    The investigator is probably his brother in law.

  39. oldsailor81

    Bob Strauss……
    I also believe that there was fraudulant activity by the alleged ELECTORAL COLLEGE. As I recall there was a number of people who questioned the votes of the electors, both in 2008,as well as 2012. The latter even moreso.

  40. bob strauss

    I’m sure you remember the fraud surrounding the signatures on the Indiana candidate petitions back in 2008, where it was held, that neither Obama or Hillary had enough legitimate signatures to qualify to be on the ballot.

    Our elections are based on the honor system, and guess what, demorats leadership are criminals. Orly Taitz has it labled correctly as a RICO.,d.aWc

  41. citizenwells

    “Top Democrat Calls Obama a Delusional Liar”

    “Bob Kerrey says Obama is a liar.

    Obama, he said Wednesday in his Manhattan office, knew full well he was lying when he promised that the Affordable Care Act would allow Americans to keep insurance plans they liked.

    ‘He had to know he was misleading the audience,’ Kerrey said quietly, recalling the newly minted president’s countless promises as Congress and the public debated his signature health insurance overhaul.

    Bob Kerrey says that President Obama is a delusional liar and knew all along that he was lying to the American people.”

  42. bob strauss

    citizenwells | April 3, 2014 at 4:05 pm |

    “Top Democrat Calls Obama a Delusional Liar”
    In my opinion his lying includes, about his Citizenship, and presidential eligibility.

    RICO describes it best. From Indiana all the way to the White House, nothing but lies, and coordinated fraud.

  43. Pete – Okay, I guess I better explain myself a little better. Not all people in the various government intel agencies are Leftist pro-Muslim stooges. But the key positions are being politically determined and what the regulars are told to do they are told to do “in the interest of national security.” Then, with certain people in key positions, surrogates are used and paid for–even outside the agencies–to do their bidding. The nearly unlimited funds and lack of oversight allows for this. No expense is spared for “national security.” So there is a shield of protection under this heading for those who have infiltrated. Look at all the Muslims that are now in key positions in the various agencies, to include Homeland Security. This is what people are turning a blind eye to. There is the underlying fear that to oppose what is happening in any real way will lead to economic collapse and civil and even race war precipitated by loss of foreign oil. So, everyone cooperates. We go along to get along, hoping for some fortuitious opening to mitigate the situation, like another rigged election? Just don’t rock the boat. And if need be, people are bumped off if they become too much of a threat. The CIA specializes in that, too. Think of the trail of convenient deaths for Soetoro. That hampers a lot of would-be Snowdens as well. It is, indeed, 1984.

  44. Old Sailor,
    I agree with you about the old mechanical voting machines, which would be far safer than the electronic ones. We used the former for decades.

  45. Dean M,
    In reading comments around the blog I find that more and more posters are talking your language these days. They don’t necessarily have your more in-depth understanding, but they are waking up to the CIA and muslim connections. A couple of years ago your voice was nearly solo, but not so now.

  46. Rosemary Woodhouse

    And Congress will do….nothing. I hate to hang the crepe, but to state the obvious, we’ve been coup-coup d’couped.

    As Nikita Khruschev stated in 1960, “We cannot expect Americans to jump from capitalism to Communism, but we can assist their elected leaders in giving Americans small doses of socialism until they suddenly awake to find they have Communism.”

  47. Rosemary Woodhouse

    @Dean ….trail of death…Clinton and Soetoro, both.

  48. cabbyaz — Thank you for your kind remarks. We’ve been at this a long time, eh? Were you one of those posting at the Texas Darlin’ site back in 2008? That is where I started, trying to tell people back then Obama was a Muslim CIA recruit. He began his bid for the Presidency going to the largest mosque in the US in Dearborn and having private talks with Hasan al-Qawini whose mosque shares speakers like Louis Farakhan with Rev. Wright’s Trinity Church, which allows Muslims to join without any conversion process and/or baptism. Al-Qazwini gave Obama (Soetoro) a copy of his book AMERICAN CRESCENT. The Press was denied entrance to their private talks. This is a Shiite Mosque. Anyway, back then I was castigated and laughed off the sites. No one wanted to hear what I was saying. I had worked under NSA in Vietnam in the Army Security Agency and later became an instructor for operatives in my particular field. I was privy to certain things and I saw the vast potential for abuse. The Cold War caused us to use some questionable methods in relation to our democratic values and Congress practically abdicated its oversight role. So, things have evolved as they have. The country needs to first wake up. I’m glad if more people are beginning to see the light.

  49. Dean M,
    You’re welcome! No, I wasn’t over at Texas Darlin’ because I didn’t get a computer until 2009 and began frequenting the blogs early in 2010. CW’s was my resting place. Thanks for the early info you relate in the above post.
    Let me share a story. In 2008 a long-time Jewish friend was always telling me that Soetoro was a “muslim sleeper”. He had somewhat the same insight as you but did not know what you know. I was always responding, “He’s a Marxist.” Then we would go back and forth, in a friendly way. The two seemed rather incompatible at the time, but not now, since you have explained previously how Marxism can cozy up to Islam. Keep on sharing your insights! They help us to understand how deep the mire is.

  50. bob strauss

    Green Guru James Lovelock on Climate Change: ‘I don’t think anybody really knows what’s happening. They just guess’ – Lovelock Reverses Himself on Global Warming

    Lovelock, on BBC TV, slams the global warming claims including those of of the United Nations climate panel. ‘They just guess. And a whole group of them meet together and encourage each other’s guesses.’

  51. oldsailor81

    Hopefully Photo ID laws will be utilised to vote in EVERY state, and the voter will receive a receipt showing how he voted. If the vote receipt shows an error with the vote then the HONCHO over the voting site will be required to correct the vote whether he/she likes it or not. If they refuse to fix the vote then that person gets a little slammer time.

  52. Dean,
    I know exactly what your saying. Perhaps I haven’t made myself clear in the past. The process we are witnessing didn’t begin in the last 5, 10, or even 15 years. We, by paying attention, have witnessed something whose footprints have been ongoing for years. Obama is a construct, something that was made up for delivery to the people at the right time, and inserted at a ‘made’ economic crisis. That means planning begins before his birth in 1961, just 16 years after the end of WWII and 8 years after Korea.

    The Muslims were recruited by the Nazi’s to slaughter Jews and Christians. The Conflict in Croatia in the early 1990’s was retribution to the Muslims for their participation with the Nazi’s, which was delayed secondary to Tito’s takeover. The Communists were already embedded in NAZI spy rings, US spy rings, and into US government even during WWII. The Muslim and Marxist connection to US government would have been achieved via the formation of the CIA, and operation paperclip, wherein multiple NAZI agents were re-purposed to spy on Stalin.

    This isn’t a simple, off the shelf, event. Some of what we see is likely chance, and not everyone is corrupt. This is statistically the most likely possibility. However, when it comes to events like Obama creation, election, massive voter fraud, made up federal government numbers, and records disappearing, the mask comes off a little and we can see footprints of a dark entity protecting this storyline, which is likely the CIA.

    My personal ‘guess’ is that the CIA is involved deeply in world drug trade. Everything hinges on product creation and delivery. They know exactly what Obama is, but that makes him more useful for their very purpose. That is the underlying impetus for allowing Obama to continue, to hide his past, to intimidate and murder opponents, to protect ‘funding’ of the CIA by it’s other means.

    So is the CIA involved, Yes we agree. I don’t think it’s as simple as they ‘like’ Obama, but he makes them rich.


  53. Pete…..
    I completely agree with the long time nature of what has ben occuring. Itoo have see the shreds of change which have come about over the years,
    but I would hasten to add that the handwriting was on the wall even in the 1950s,and was PLAIN TO SEE. While it was a subtle change many saw it even then as potentially dangerous to our country…..but you are right,todays problem didn’t begin yesterday. It was a deliberately planned, and very slowly infused program perpetrated by the so called PROGRESSIVES. Yet thousands of others also see what is happening ,and sadly they don’t even care about it. In some quarters they look upon it all as being “C-O-O-L”….(in their own language). Sadly that word along with a few others(INVECTIVE) constitutes their entire vocabulary. The progressive movement has been helped along by the gradual DUMBING down of young people along the way. This works hand and glove with the progressive movement.

  54. i found this over at WZ’s. The comments are truly rich and worth the time to read.

  55. Pete……
    ………..and in the END stage of our disease of stupidity,our alleged society will degress into a pile of writhing maggots feeding upon rotted carcasses.

  56. Hopefully Photo ID laws will be utilised to vote in EVERY state, and the voter will receive a receipt showing how he voted. If the vote receipt shows an error with the vote then the HONCHO over the voting site will be required to correct the vote whether he/she likes it or not. If they refuse to fix the vote then that person gets a little slammer time.
    Well, if the computer can alter the vote, can’t it alter the receipt?
    So, aren’t we back to square one–the essential need to return to paper ballots with receipts.

  57. bob strauss

    What Happened to Chicago’s Murder Rate After Illinois Upheld Concealed Carry and Why it Matters

    In July of 2013, Illinois became the last state in the union to enact a concealed carry law. In January of this year, the state began accepting applications for permits. This week, Chicago police announced that the city’s first quarter murder rate was the lowest since 1958.

    Via ABC-affiliate Eye Witness News in the Windy City:

    The first three months of the year saw 6 fewer murders than the same time frame in 2013–a 9 percent drop–and 55 fewer murders than 2012, according to a statement from Chicago Police.
    There were 90 fewer shootings and 119 fewer shooting victims, drops of 26 and 29 percent respectively, according to police statistics.
    Compared to the first quarter of 2012, there have been 222 fewer shootings and 292 fewer shooting victims. Overall crime is down 25 percent from last year, and police said more than 1,300 illegal guns were recovered in the last three months.

    Coincidence? Hard to say. And too early to tell. Although, I doubt that the anti-gun crowd is celebrating the good news.

    Gun crime experts John Lott, Jr. and David Mustard made the famous argument in “Crime, Deterrence, and Right-to-Carry Concealed Firearms” that: “When state concealed handgun laws went into effect in a county, murders fell by 8.5 percent, and rapes and aggravated assaults fell by 5 and 7 percent.” More guns mean less crime.

    Gary Kleck, PhD., also a gun crime expert, found that the crime deterrence effect of firearms possession is significant: sophisticaed statistics suggest three to four crimes are stopped by a handgun than are committed in the United States every year.

    True, the U.S. has many more guns than other countries, but 99.995% of firearms every year are not used to commit homicides. The rate of gun homicide is in the thousands every year in a nation of over 300 million – meaning that there are numerous “killers” that far exceed gun homicides.

    While statistics vary and people on both sides of the gun debate differ on whether concealed carry laws help to prevent gun crime, this thing is certain: If my loved ones or I were under attack, I would want the capability to stop the attackers. Dead in their tracks, if necessary. Wouldn’t you?

  58. oldsailor81

    With respect to the MECHANICAL voting machines, to alter a receipt requires a MECHANICAL alteration per se. If the mechanical alteration is done then everything from that point on does as the MECHANICAL alteration causes,but it occurs to everything,that is to say what happens to the vote of a Democrat also happens to the vote of a Republican,and therefore the alteration of the machine causes the person who done the alteration to be essentially “SHOVELING FECES AGAINST THE TIDE. Nothing to gain,and a lot to lose. I personally would love to see the electronic voting machines made ILLEGAL. Any alteration of a mechanical voting machine as they once were would quickly be discovered, and by law would have to be immediately repaired or taken out of service.

  59. bob strauss

    Allen West sounds like he may have seen the light.

    “Could it be Obama seeks to destroy the very thing those humble men set out to establish over 200 years ago in the hall upon which I gaze? More importantly, has America awakened to that fact? And if we do realize Obama’s intent, what are we willing to do about it? Sadly, I believe there are too many who know nothing of our fundamental principles, as well as many who do not even care. People such as this enable someone like an Obama to rise and threaten to destroy that precious quality birthed right here in Philadelphia: individual liberty. A president who finds comfort in lying to the American people is one willing to do anything to achieve the ends of “fundamental transformation.”


  60. oldsailor81

    I would also hasten to add that whatever happened to a Republican Vote would also happen to the vote of a Democrat. The outcomwe would be exactly the same with every vote…..and as I stated QUICKLY DISCOVERED. In the past these machines were thoroughly tested,and certified, by a company who was required to post a huge financial bond. In those days that seemed to be enough to keep the CERTIFIERS honest. These machines were used for decades….very successfully in all states. They were a bit slow but the election always got done irregardless.

  61. oldsailor81

    Another way to view this is to think of an old printing press. It will faithfully produce the same image, with every revolution of the press until the typographer MECHANICALLY changes the type in the locked in form. From that point on it then prints what has either been added, or no longer prints what has been removed,and continues to do exactly the same thing with every revolution until the form is again changed by the pressman,or typographer. In the older voting machines the same thing applies. Whatever is selected by the VOTER is printed!
    I took the time to explain the process of the old voting machines because many people have never seen one, or have the slightest idea how they worked. When you closed the curtain you were faced with two horizontal rows of names and pictures. One row was Democratic,and the other Republican. Each had a small lever below the picture. So initially you could select either a straight ticket with the one lever at the head of the list,or if you wished to split your ticket you then had to activate each lever by itself below each picture. After you made all of your selections you simply pulled the lever,and your vote was cast. The secrecy curtain was simultaneously opened for the next voter. After the vote was cast all of the levers mechanically returned to the start position.

  62. bob strauss

    Rebellion is growing, and pushing back against the usurpers extortion.
    The Missouri House has just voted on one of the most pro-gun bills in decades, nullifying ALL federal gun control… including future gun control. Please SHARE.

    This is a direct response to Obama’s attempts to undermine the Second Amendment. Every state should follow the example and fight back.

  63. oldsailor81

    Bob Strauss……
    Regarding Allen West,I once believed in his sincerety,simply because he had been a commissioned officer in the US Army. Unfortunately I failed to realise that even a commissioned officer has his own beliefs which sometimes gets in the way of honest application. I remain somewhat disenchanted with his prospects of being elected once again. Once you have created a breach of trust it is awfully difficult to repair it. I do however realise that Allen West is simply Allen West. By himself he is probably no more powerful than anybody else. In order to make things happen you must command the respect of a hell of a lot of your peers. I believe that he fell short of that goal last time around. But I do keep an open mind.

  64. oldsailor81

    Bob Strauss…….
    I personally think that there will eventually be a confrontation between the Feds,and the state of Missouri,as a result. It could get really nasty. If there is to be such action by the states it SCREAMS for UNITY throughout all of the states. On a one by one basis, I believe that each will fall to a federal KANGAROO court, and federal law will end up being shoved down everyone’s throat. That is why it is almost IMPERATIVE that this occur in ALL states simultaneously. When that happen WE are then in a position too unceremoniously RAM IT ALL up the BASTARD’S ANUS.

  65. oldsailor81

    When you have state officials like those of Connecticut you have a tribe of MORONS who think that THEY ARE God,and as such they can ram their manure down the throats of all the folks in Connecticut. The gun confiscation has yet to commence. There are about 300,000 people in Connecticut who have asserted that it IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN! I believe that there ARE any JUDGES in Connecticut who are crazy enough to try to intimidate 300,000 enraged citizens. But if one of them is CRRAZY enough to try it…you might hear the FIRST SHOTS of a REVOLUTION which is waiting to happen. If it happens in Connecticut it could easily ignite the rest of the states as well. When that happens there will be outright WAR,and in that vein, there will be no effective martial law either. In war there IS NO LAW,except thhhat which exits the muzzle of a weapon, or is comprised of a GARROTE.

  66. oldsailor81

    TYPO ARE =NO AREN’T= yes

  67. citizenwells

    The Post & Email
    The Post & Email Extends Its Best Wishes to Atty. Orly Taitz for a Full Recovery | The Post & Email

  68. oldsailor81

    I would further venture to guess that if such a conflict would actually begin ALL of the LIBERAL LUNATICS will be RUNNING as FAST AS THEY CAN towards some sort of imagined hiding place. With so much political manure being compounded by even more political manure, even the absolute MORONS among us will probably decide that ENOUGH IS ENOUGH, and pick up a weapon. This could EASILY HAPPEN,and given the right set of prevailing circumstances might ACTUALLY happen. At which point BLOOD will soon thereafter be running down the gutters everywhere……BUT if this actually happens,there will be ONLY one outcome……the BELL will be tolling for the USURPER.

  69. oldsailor81

    Now it is Orly Taitz whose life could have come to an end. While the accident could, and perhaps was just an accident,there is plenty of justification to wonder if her BRAKE lines might have been cut, or the throttle set to stick in wide open position. Do you think any California police would even bother to take a look to see if her brakes were tampered with. Very doubtful. Hell they got Mzzzzzzzz. Fuddy,so why not Orly? Just GUESSING!

  70. bob strauss

    If Yellowstone erupts all bets are off.

  71. oldsailor81

    I pray with all my heart and soul thhat Orly survives this ordeal,then takes her case this time to the PEOPLE. She needs to get on every talk show that she can get on,and in every newspaper that will print all that she has uncovered.

  72. bob strauss

    oldsailor81 | April 4, 2014 at 5:16 pm |

    Now it is Orly Taitz whose life could have come to an end. While the accident could, and perhaps was just an accident,there is plenty of justification to wonder if her BRAKE lines might have been cut, or the throttle set to stick in wide open position. Do you think any California police would even bother to take a look to see if her brakes were tampered with. Very doubtful. Hell they got Mzzzzzzzz. Fuddy,so why not Orly? Just GUESSING!

    We are truly being extorted by our “government”. The usurper’s secret police, his domestic army, all of this homeland security crap, and TSA is just there to keep track of people’s whereabouts. It’s as if we are already under arrest, we’re just awaiting processing.

  73. citizenwells

  74. oldsailor81

    Bob Strauss…..
    Look at it this way for a moment…..if Yellowstone were to erupt we probably would not need any impeachment stuff. Mother nature will become the judge, jury and executioner,of Americas BASTARD.
    A potential eruption of a volcano who’s cauldron is 45 miles across, is not a half pint kid on the block. The reading which I have done in the past seems to tell me that there would literally be NO ESCAPE for any living being or creature on this continent,which btw includes DC. If Yellowstone were to erupt to the maximum of it’s potential, probably all living creatures within a 1000 mile radius would soon perish. Alaska might escape the worst of it but certainly several Canadian provinces would be devastated as well. I expect that the destruction would reach to, and perhaps even beyond the shores of the Gulf of Mexico. Nor do I believe that California ,Oregon,and Washington,would get off easily. There might be surviveability in those states,but not without severe hardship. I think that because of the prevailing Eastward travel of atmospheric debris,dust, etc our entire East coat would end up literally buried in PUMICE. Everything in between would probably already be dead…from asphyxiation, or from a high level of shock,or a combination of both. Not a very pretty scenario, but I guess we all die from something sooner or later.

  75. oldsailor81

    Is the photograph (upside down) Orly’s car or is it one that she struck form behind.

  76. oldsailor81


  77. bob strauss

    I’m sure this will have the full backing of the white house….

    Communist Oprah Developing Race Riot Miniseries

  78. bob strauss

    Mozilla CEO Resigns After IRS Leaks His Prop-8 Donation to Gay-Advocacy Group
    Usurper’s MO.
    Release private records of your competition, and then send your henchmen after him.

  79. bob strauss

    Sound familiar?
    How EPA Finds People for Its Gas Chamber Experiments

  80. citizenwells

    I had rotated Taitz’s car but some kind of stupid cache like scenario picked up pre rotation.
    I retrieved again rightsided.

  81. bob strauss

    Demorats are still trying to ram this up are a$$es. Right in the backdoor.
    Key GOP Balk at Inserting Immigration Bill into NDAA

  82. bob strauss

    Looks like a very hard hit on Orly’s car. An investigation needs to begin and check out the other driver, and whether he may have made any sizable deposits lately. With a lawless government led by a usurper anything is possible.

  83. bob strauss

    A Senator blows the lid wide open on Benghazi…just when you thought it couldn’t get any worse!

    Please share this with your friends if you still are committed to bringing those behind this “phony scandal” to justice!

  84. Wonder what Orly was going to talk to the LA Times about:-(

  85. bob strauss

    This is huge… Oklahoma is moving forward to become the second state to dump “Common Core”. Please SHARE.

  86. Judge dismisses lawsuit over drone strikes

    “Defendants must be trusted and expected to act in accordance with the U.S. Constitution when they intentionally target a U.S. citizen abroad at the direction of the president and with the concurrence of Congress,” said Collyer. “They cannot be held personally responsible in monetary damages for conducting war.” The lawsuit sought unspecified damages.

    Hina Shamsi, director of the ACLU National Security Project, called it a “deeply troubling decision that treats the government’s allegations as proof while refusing to allow those allegations to be tested in court.”


    Something to think about tonight….

    One man’s hawk is another man’s dove,
    One man’s hug is another man’s shove
    One man’s rock is another man’s sand,
    One man’s fist is another man’s hand
    One man’s tool is another man’s toy,
    One man’s grief is another man’s joy
    One man’s squawk is another man’s sIng,
    One man’s crutch is another man’s wing

    One man’s pride is another man’s humble,
    One man’s step is another man’s stumble
    One man’s pleasure is another man’s pain,
    One man’s loss is another man’s gain
    One man’s can is another man’s grail,
    One man’s curse is another man’s sail
    One man’s right is another man’s wrong,
    One man’s curse is another man’s song

    One man’s deuce is another man’s ace,
    One man’s back is another man’s face
    One man’s reason is another man’s rhyme,
    One man’s dollar is another man’s dime
    One man’s tree is another man’s post,
    One man’s angel is another man’s ghost
    One man’s rain is another man’s drought,
    One man’s hope is another man’s doubt

    One man’s false is another man’s fair,
    One man’s toup is another man’s hair
    One man’s hand is another man’s stub,
    One man’s feast is another man’s grub
    One man’s dread is another man’s dream,
    One man’s sigh is another man’s scream
    One man’s water is another man’s wine,
    One man’s daughter leaves another man’s cryin’

    One man’s famine is another man’s feast,
    One man’s pet is another man’s beast
    One man’s bat is another man’s ball,
    One man’s art is another man’s scrawl
    One man’s friend is another man’s foe,
    One man’s Joesph is another man’s Joe
    One man’s hammer is another man’s nail,
    One man’s freedom is another man’s jail

    One man’s road is another man’s rut,
    One man’s if is another man’s but
    One man’s treasure is another man’s trash,
    One man’s landin’ is another man’s crash
    One man’s word is another man’s lie,
    One man’s dirt is another man’s sky
    One man’s skin is another man’s color,
    One man’s killer is another man’s brother

    Hank Williams said it best. He said it a long time ago
    “Unless you have made no mistakes in your life
    Be careful of stones that you throw”

  88. This is huge… Oklahoma is moving forward to become the second state to dump “Common Core”. Please SHARE.

    Pennsylvania’s House also passed a bill to drop Common Core, and three other states, including Florida, Michigan and Ohio, have also introduced bills to get rid of it. –

    Add the 4 that did not adopt the program, and that is 9 not participating now.

  89. Good Morning CW, et. al. – Sorry to hear about Orly. Hmmmm – Everyone who gets close or has the possibility of getting close seems to meet with death, danger or threats. Sheriff Joe had better up his life insurance.

  90. citizenwells

    Good morning Zach, et al.

  91. Better check to see if he was about to out Obama for one of his many secrets.

  92. Is anyone else having problems going to Breitbart?

  93. citizenwells

    Breitbart not coming up.

  94. Thanks CW. I’ve got to go now. Have a great day!

  95. John in Illinois

    I’m having trouble with
    as well as
    maybe its mediacom at my location?

  96. citizenwells

    Drudge, yes.
    WND very slow.

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  98. FAKE photos
    April 5, 2014

    Shawn Glasco:

    “Did Barack Obama Sr. visit Hawaii in 1971?”

    “But was Obama Sr.’s 1971 Hawaii visit, as narrated in Dreams, a hoax? To begin with, Dreams specifically states that the “only” pictures of Barack Jr.’s “father’s” Christmas visit were “ones” where Obama Sr., Ann, and Barack Jr. were “stand[ing] in front” of a “Christmas tree,” with Barack Jr. holding an “orange basketball” and Obama Sr. “showing off [a] tie.” And yet three other “only” Christmas photos have mysteriously appeared the web and in Obama biographies.

    1. A lesser-known photo, with a Daphne Barak credit and appearing on “anti-birther” websites, does show Obama Sr., Ann, and Barack Jr. at a “Christmas tree,” but neither an “orange basketball” nor a “tie” is seen. Furthermore, Ann’s arms are outstretched, handing a large Christmas present to Obama Sr., with the present balanced on two of her fingertips and on Obama’s Sr.’s left hand – yet, simultaneously as Obama Sr.’s arms are crossed, he somehow hands a smaller Christmas present to Barack Jr., similarly balanced on both of Obama Sr.’s and Barack Jr.’s fingertips, even though Barack Jr.’s hand is awkwardly at his side and he is kneeling at a distance farther from Obama Sr. than a sitting Ann. The Daphne Barak “Christmas tree” photo is apparently fake.”

    [much more at link]

  99. Good morning CW, et al

  100. Zach……….I would probably increase my insurance coverage……but at the same time I would begin carrying a S&W .44 Magnum. When a SLIME is hiding behind a door you just shoot THROUGH it. Works 99% of the time.

  101. It seems that virtually everytime Soetoro visits Hawaii somebody dies somewhere. I get the feeling that he goes to Hawaii to establish an ALIBI, because he is very aware of the public scrutiny which he receives 24/7. His goons can dream up photographic BULLSHI#,and publish it,or they can threaten people,but after all is said, and done very damn little changes. The Federal Judges are still who they are,and what they are,………SLIMEY,LYING,AND OTHERWISE UNPRINCIPLED EXCUSES FOR HUMAN BEINGS. THEY ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE ON A PAR WITH Levin of Michigan, who was behind the removal of the CEO of Mozilla. Levin is probably a SEXUAL DEVIATE himself. For him to cause somebody to lose the position that they have worked hard to earn tells me that he is a NUMBER ONE BASTARD. He sides with the FAGGOTS. He is little more than DIRT. His presence in Michigan shows in DETROIT.

  102. For oldsailor81:
    10:53 am —

    ” … but at the same time I would begin carrying a S&W .44 Magnum.”
    “.44 Magnum Model 29 (Dirty Harry Returns)”

  103. CW……..
    If that is the remains of Orly’s car, then somebody hit her at pretty high speed. I know a little about Northern California around Mission Viejo, and if the terrain where the accident occurred was anything like around Viejo,there might be a probability that somebody might have intended to cause her to go over the side of the many deep ravines alongside of the road,which are often very deep (100-300′ deep) especially along the Coast Highway (1)…interstate 5 isn’t much improvement. In the case of Highway 1 one side of it is too the Pacific Ocean for much of it’s length,and if she was struck just right in the rear it could have sent the Lexus over the guard rail and down about an average of 200′ to the rocks below which in all probability she would not have survived either. As memory serves Orly lives in that general neighborhood.

  104. oldsailor81 | April 5, 2014 at 10:53 am | When I was in my early 20’s, I would help a friend set up motion sensor camera’s for identifying bobcats and Florida Panthers in a rural S. Fla County. There lots of wild bore hogs, rattlesnakes in the palmettos. I wore snake boots and carried a Ruger .45 Long Colt pistol with 250 grain ammo. It had about 300 ft.lbs of muzzle energy. I felt safer, but a 400 lb wild bore coming out of heavy brush would have scared the crap out of me.

  105. Gordo……
    Great video…..right up my alley, and definitely my kind of TOY! Lots of folks remember the famous lines..”Go ahead punk MAKE MY DAY”. Throughout my adult life, many of my friends were law enforcement officers. Most of whom I attended high school with.Some were County Police Officers (Sheriff’s Dept), Indiana State Police,or Fort Wayne City Police. Nearly all are now retired! The son of one of these officers became our Chief of Police. I once ventured in that direction also,but quickly removed myself when I discovered the level of deceit,and payoffs that was going on in the department. It was in my opinion totally CRIMINAL. In that city this was seen as NORMAL……but fortunately I didn’t see it that way! I simply became a commercial printer instead……at least I earned my pay HONESTLY. This in no way means that I am saying that ALL police are CROOKED. Most are honest God fearing folks, but in the Eastern city which I characterised many were indeed as crooked as a dog’s hind leg. Not my cup of tea! However I still carry a torch for all officers of the law…male or female, wherever they happen to be. They put their lives on the line virtually everyday,without expecting anything in return,because it is part of the job.

  106. Zach……
    In various places throughout the South wild boars have become a real problem. Most of the critters you can kill with a 22 MAG, but where the very often 250lb, and usually larger wild boars are concerned I would not be without a .44 Ruger, or a weapon capable of safely firing a .44 mag. When one of the boars gets really POd you don’t have much time until he is right in your face. A couple of people I know very well found that out last year…the hard way. One of them was not paying attention to what he should have been and he got RUN OVER by a WILD BOAR,who in the process tore a gash up his leg over 12 ” inches in length. Hell he wasn’t even carring a hunting rifle. He was too busy eating a candy bar. He was damn lucky that his friend had some emergency medical training during his Marine Corps, enlistment,otherwise the kid would probably have bled to death before he figured out what to do. Honestly such people should not even be out in places like that, if they are that damn stupid. Me I would have a trusty Model 29 hanging on my hip, with magnum loads inserted. Just DON’T MISS, because a 300 lb wild boar comes like a greyhound bus and behaves like a Patton tank.

  107. Zach …….
    My last comment was really directed to both you and Gordo.

  108. Take care oldsailor81. I live up north now so I don’t even have to look for snakes.

  109. Zach,and Gordo…….
    I also know a person who regularly hunts down destructive boars……..he uses his trusty .22-250. (Hits like a .243 Roberts load.) Great varmint rifle…….but when the varmint weighs over 300 lbs I personally believe it is time for something more meaningful. Perhaps you could do like Bob Stack used to do on his Kenya elephant hunts where he goaded the elephant into charging him then at the last second he casually steps aside and shoots the elephant behind the left ear with his Ruger .44 mag. as the elephant passes by. HAR HAR HAR. I guess I can only say “GO GET EM BOB”….I’ll just watch”. Personally I would be quite a distance away with my trusty .458 Super 70. Works just like a .416 H&H. The latter is what most of the Kenya guides used in their double barreled rifles for a lot of years. If the person who they were guiding missed they pulled up and dropped the animal…usually in one round! But I can readily state that you don’t want to be wearing your false teeth when you fire either a .416,or a .458 especially if either is magnum loads. You definitely need a little rear end, to help hold you down. Makes your sinuses drain as well.! Another idea is to put a football teeth protector in place before you fire either rifle, and keep the sling as tight as possible. I would love to fire a M-82 Barrets.50 caliber down range sometime. I would wager that you would know very quickly that what exited the muzzle….HAD SOME WHISKERS ON IT!

  110. Zach…..

    Then watch out for angered BLACK BEARS!.

  111. If I was about 30 years younger I would be heading towards Southern Alaska. Hell the LAST FRONTIER with mosquitos as big as buffalos! har har

  112. citizenwells

    Orly’s car took a heck of a hit.

  113. Oldsailor,

    I too when younger thought about moving to southern Alaska.

  114. I still think about it……watching all of the Alaska programs now on TV….
    Hehehehehe! No, “I’m too tired to roam, so I’ll just stay in AZ and call it home.” Alaska is only for the fit and fiddle. I like Alaska while sitting in my cozy recliner.

  115. oldsailor – last year I bought a Savage .17hmr cal. rifle. I was sighting it in. I had my target on a piece 2×12 leaning against a bale of compressed pine shavings, with a 1″ piece of plywood wedged in with another 2×12, the last backstop was my hillside. I was amazed at how powerful (and loud) this little bullet is. It went through everything, leaving only tiny holes. It’s a nice little rifle and cheap to shoot. They now make a .17 cal. magnum that is real fast. Not sure about price of ammo. My Model 670 30-06 I bought in 76 still shoots real good but the ammo is expensive and it will just about dislocate one’s shoulder. I had a black bear in my garbage can this past summer. I put the floodlight on him and he acted like there was no light at all. I watched him for 10 or so minutes until he realized there was a light on and I was at the door, he or she just wandered off. My dog never woke up.

  116. oldsailor81

    Her car appears to be about 2′ shorter. What happened to the person at fault? I don’t believe he/she would have driven their vehicle away either. I am glad to hear that she was not injured badly. The only problem is possible NECK injuries. If she had an adequate head rest she might well have avoided some really nasty soft tissue injuries from the sudden impact forces. There have been people in the past who have sufferred SEVERE muscle, and soft tissue injuries which don’t show up right away. Often even herniated discs,at c3,c4and c5, in the cervical spine. Many of the older vehicles were NOT equipped with padded head stops. Most vehicles are so equipped now. When you are struck from the rear, the impact transfers one hell of a forward inertial energy,which snapps a persons head towards the rear of the vehicle. However with a headstopping rest most of the energy is transferred to the back of the drivers seat. When we was struck in the rear we did not have such a headstop and Delores sufferred a herniated disc at c4. She still has residual pain from time to time if she inadvertently sleeps in the wrong position,etc. We have a pretty good insight into such accidents. The vehicle which struck us in the rear was a 1995 Chrysler Concord….almost 3000 lb, traveling at a little over 50MPH. Fortunately a lot of the energy was taken out of the impact be virtue of the sheet metal and related body crush. We then had a 1988 Ford Aerostar,which as luck would have it was built with a FULL frame under it. Yet the force of the impact tore the engine from its mounts, crashed us into the vehicle in front of us and he into the vehicle in front of him. We were fourth in a line of stopped vehicles at a red light. The person who struck us didn’t even slow down. The police estimated her speed at over 50mph. The impact shortened our van by about a foot and a half,and it had a heavy duty REESE hitch on the rear as well. The Concord was about 3 foot shorter,but the lady being drunk,was not even injured. But she was arrested at the scene. The Concord was a FULL SIZE vehicle. The Aerostar was totalled,but I have often said that it probably saved both of us from really serious injury.

  117. oldsailor81

    ….We ended up with a brand new 1999 Ford Windstar. We have since traded it off for a 2009 Ford Escape which we might be soon trading.

  118. oldsailor81

    For no larger than the black bear gets it can be a really agressive adversary. When they stand they can often stand at 6′ or so,and they can be really intimidating. I have hunted Brown bear and Grizzly both, but I shot both of them at about 100 yds or so. I used an old converted Lee enfield .303 on the brown bear,but I was not that brave with the Grizzly. He received a dose of my .458 Winchester Super 70. I was taking a chance with a smaller round because the fur on a Brown bear can often be upwards to 3″ thick,and it acts like armor plate. When I fired he didn’t go down right away,and I started setting up for a second shot. But he just stood there and after what seemed like forever finally fell forward and didn’t get up. You can be really fooled by bears, it pays biig dividends to approach the kill with extreme caution. The same caution applies to MULE DEER also. When you think he is DEAD is sometimes a bad mistake. The last year I hunted in Colorado, a hunter who was making an approach to his kill quickly and painfully discovered how these deer come up off the ground…..rack first, and if you are in the way like he was you can find yourself painfully impaled by multiple points of his rack, and being pushed against the ground to make his point. Such an encounter usually does not turn out well. Hopefully you will have a hunting partner along who has the smarts to get another round into the animal,quickly.

  119. bob strauss

    Orly’s car is a Lexus 450, top of the line car, should have plenty of safety built in.

  120. oldsailor81

    Yep the high power rounds are getting astronomical in cost. I have always bought brass cases which can be reloaded. Today the price of my .458 special is in excess of $3.00 per round. Fortunately when I bought the last order of ammo for the rifle I bought a case. it is getting a little old now and I am considering having it all reloaded. I no longer own the Lee Enfield, or my M1. I originally bought the M1 for $500.00 in the early 60s. It was brand new fresh out of the factory. Was never fired and still had the original cosmaline on it when I sold it . I tripled my investment. ending up with $1500.00. I did not ask him for that much…..he offerred it, so I accepted,and he left like a little kid with a new toy. I have lately been wondering if I made a really bad mistake.

  121. oldsailor81

    Bob Strauss……….
    I know a couple of people who own Lexus vehicles. They both like them quite well,and it was only about a month back that one of them stopped in and I had a chance to look at the interior. This was just before all the snow started. It did have a really tall back to the seat compounded by a head stopper which nearly reached the ceiling. Of course he keeps his golf caddy in the trunk, so there isn’t much chance of a number 2 wood becoming a lethal missile, should the brakes be suddenly applied. But given all of the freeboard toward the backseat I seriously doubt that a golf club would even come close to him. It probably would exit the vehicle via the windshield.

  122. oldsailor81

    CW….. the picture seems to imply that the greates force was to the driver side of the vehicle from the rear. The impact energy had to be quite high, to do the visible damage to the undercarriage assemblies. If she was standing still then it would have been even worse. But I don’t know if she was moving forward or not. Just a guess.

  123. oldsailor81

    Bob Strauss…….
    Probably went into her campaign account…..where else!

  124. oldsailor81

    Bye folks gotta take time off. Been here far too long!

  125. Thornton Parsons

    CIA Official dies in an apparent suicide. It keeps getting curiouser and curiouser, as they say.

  126. bob strauss

    oldsailor81 | April 5, 2014 at 4:53 pm |

    Bob Strauss…….
    Probably went into her campaign account…..where else!
    Hush money for Bill’s underage sex partners?


    The Traitors will be identified….America will know her shame…

  128. RMinNC, Did check out the page www,, he gives a comprehensive listing of events and persons who were at the White House that day. Many signed in and were never signed out. PARTY !!! Sorry, can’t post a link here, again !!!!

  129. James………
    Perhaps the event would be better defined if it was referred to as a “REAR” door party.

  130. Good Morning CW, et. al.

  131. citizenwells

    Good morning Zach, et al.

  132. April 6, 2014

    “Team Arpaio: Quiet Before Storm; Sheriff Arpaio About To Change America’s Political Landscape Forever”

    Mark Gillar Via Twitter:

    — “Soon we will learn that those who have the responsibility of protecting us have instead betrayed us.”

    — “This is the quiet before the political storm. Arpaio about to change America’s political landscape forever.”

    — “Between now and the midterms, shocking revelations will be brought forward by Sheriff Joe.”

    — “… LFBC stuff would be out already if not for other crimes discovered. LFBC just the tip of the iceberg.”

    — “… Believe it or not, the new stuff somewhat eclipses the LFBC crime. It’s that big.”
    Mark Gillar (host of “Tea Party Power Hour”) is the voice-over in the Cold Case Posse’s Obama fraud video presentations.



  133. citizenwells

    Was just looking at that.


    we will know when all the rats start running for cover>

  135. SueK | April 3, 2014 at 11:33 am |
    Tornado in your area last night; hope you’re OK!
    Sue, We had lots of rain and strong winds but the tornado missed us. Check your email.

  136. CW……
    Watch closely when the Liberal Dems start lawyering up we will be tipped off that their world is about to evaporate. Watch Mr, Shooooooomer too. He is one of the worst SNEAKS on earth,and will LIE at the drop of a hat. Mssssssssss.Durbin will run,and hide with the women. Then watch the QUEER community,they will be going absolutely BONKERS.(of course they are already sick ,and morally twisted so for them they will be simply turning up the volume. I personally believe that a growing number of people in the US are beginning to get really annoyed by all of the special attention that the SEXUAL DEVIATES are getting from the Federal,and state governments. Now two of the same sex get tax breaks that are really intended for traditional man and wife families. I pray each day that ALL of these deviates will develop full blown AIDS. They think that it will never happen to them…har har….famous LAST WORDS!

  137. Good morning CW, et al.

    RMinNC, (and all others)

    Here is the real timeline of the W.H. meetings during the attacks, and those present. Far more than what was released. Per your video above is the link for all others to read.

  138. A rocking good morning!

    Series of small earthquakes rock Oklahoma in record seismic activity

    “One earthquake recorded at 3.8 magnitude by the U.S. Geological Survey rocked houses in several communities around central Oklahoma at 7:42 a.m. local time. Another about two hours earlier in the same part of the state, north of Oklahoma City, was recorded at 2.9 magnitude, USGS said.

    Those two were preceded by two more, at 2.6 magnitude, and 2.5 magnitude, that also rolled the landscape in central Oklahoma early Saturday morning. A 3.0 magnitude tremor struck late Friday night in that area as well, following a 3.4 magnitude hit Friday afternoon.

    Austin Holland, a seismologist with the Oklahoma Geological Survey who tracks earthquake activity for the USGS, said the earthquake activity in the state is soaring.”;_ylt=AwrBEiLCQUBTDxwAIUvQtDMD

  139. ……….C’MON Arpaio, lets GET ER DONE! America is READY! I wish there was a time machine because we could send all of the MOOSLIMS, Moochelle,Lil Barry,all his GOONS, and all sexual deviates back to the 4th century, so they can get a real “BELLY FULL” full of REALITY.

  140. Observer…….
    Here is a question which has been in my mind for some time. Are you up to date regarding “FRACKING”? I have read in several publications that the breakage of certain types of rock formations can generate the tremors being felt on the surface,that are thought to be natural earth movement. I personally believe that the fracking has a lot to do with the tremors… do a lot of scientists. After all it sometimes requires astronomical levels of hydrolic power to fracture some of these formations. When they finally give way, it sounds. and behaves like an earthquake,and the generated shock waves are thought to be earthquake tremors.

  141. …….allegedly Fracking can potentially generate seismic tremors up to about a 4.0…..of course being dependent upon the size of the shale field being fractured.

  142. … present there is a LOT of fracking being done RIGHT UNDER Oklahoma. I have mixed emotions regarding FRACKING. The natural gas people who do much of the fracking, could inadvertently force methane through natural rock faults,and it could escape via seepage through the surface,and without warning a methane explosion could ensue. If there was pockets of it ,lying close to the ground it would require only a spark. Since it is heavier than air,it will accumulate at ground level.

  143. William……Good morning….
    Well I have some reservations about such activity by the Navy, after all that is exactly why we have a US Coast Guard. The only advantage the Navy has over the Coast guard, is speed through the water. Coast Guard cutters are only 20 knot vessels…..conversely a newer gas turbine powered destroyer can attain speeds over 40 knots if there is justification. In this particular instance where there was an immediate need for assistance,and I fully concurr with the choice to use a FAST destroyer. There are now a few of the newest TIN CANS that are capable of over 50 knots. Their exact maneuvering,and speed capability is still classified. Just as are certain types of hydrophone(sonobouys). The Navy probably will NOT USE our finest listening capability for MH 370,simply because doing so could easily compromise it’s secrecy, but I think I can safely say that they can hear a tiny fish fart for a very,very long distance.

  144. ……..and also see the exact size, speed and depth of the fish that farted.

  145. According to a television network at least one of our fast tac nuclear subs is in the Indian Ocean helping in the effort to locate the black boxes,and subsequently the wreckage itself. It is entirely possible that the devices could have both been ejected from the aircraft,simply because of the CRUSHING effect upon certain areas of the airplane as it sunk to the bottom.

  146. Observer | April 6, 2014 at 10:39 am |

    Morning, Observer,

    One of our bloggers is in OK, and there have been a lot of low-magnitude quakes; they’re strong enough to be felt, but not strong enough to do any substantial damage.

    There are several fault systems running through OK, with the Nemaha fault zone being the one that gets the most attention.

    Seismologists are baffled as to what’s causing them, but they could be occurring due to wastewater injection into porous rock, and/or oil and gas exploration (fracking) in the northern part of the state. Any ‘disturbance’ in the subsurface strata could cause low-magnitude quakes to occur.

    These quakes seem to caused by man made activities and are not natural processes.

  147. OldSailor and Sue K,

    Yeah, the article mentions the oil and gas exploration taking place in OK.

  148. Yes, Observer…exploration in the northern part of the state.

    The faults in the area have been inactive for a very long time, so the question is: Why is this happening now? You generally don’t think of OK being a seismically active area!

    I hope they get to the bottom of what’s causing this; to have this happening on such a regular basis does nothing for the residents’ peace of mind.

  149. Seems clear that the George Soros sponsored Secretary of State Project designed to put leftists into each States administration has been successful.
    It certainly was not a difficult task in Blue States to be sure.
    The Secretary of State, of course, is in charge of elections, and is supposed
    to be in charge of vetting candidates, and/or acting on behalf of citizens to
    investigate/vet candidates that are challenged.
    How this man remains, standing, talking, taking up space/resources/air is a mystery to me.
    I believe he lives in NY City on a visitors visa, and has rumored to have
    applied for citizenship.
    If indeed he is the front man for this whole operation, aided and abetted
    by .01%ers in cahoots with the CIA, he can probably do and be whatever
    Can anyone confirm?

  150. And the question is….if these various kinds of gas/oil exploration have been taking place for decades, and probably previously by more disturbing methods, why now does it seem that there are greater fears and recognition of/for the results? For previous quakes, not getting as much attention, were there any connections made to what precipitated those? I also think that there certainly could be a relationship of cause and effect but there is today also the matter of the earth’s core having the greater magnetic pull from the planetary positioning, which, btw, was alluded to by NASA in a NYTimes article back in 1983.

    An outer planet was first hypothesized in 1841 when astronomers noticed Uranus did not move as predicted in it’s orbit. Based on these residuals, the search for Planet ‘X’ began

    On November 9th, 1983 in Washington DC a press conference was held discussing objects which were seen in infrared but had no recorded visible counterpart “All I can tell you is that we don’t know what it is,” Dr. Gerry Neugebauer, IRAS chief scientist for California’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory and director of the Palomar Observatory for the California Institute of Technology, said in an interview.

    The discussion of this disturbing planetary presence has since been verboten and all things related to this discovery, like the Obama dirt, has been scrubbed by the controllers fearful of the greater public reaction/panic. This is related as well to the sudden appearance of more near earth comets/meteors and magnetic disturbance of the oort cloud. Recently there was news about this possibility:

    Though exciting in its own right, the discovery raises a more tantalizing prospect for many astronomers: that a “Super Earth” up to 10 times the mass of our planet orbits the sun at such a great distance that it has never been seen.”………”This object has the most distant orbit known,” Scott Sheppard at the Carnegie Institution of Washington told the Guardian. “It extends the known boundary of the observable solar system.”…….Earlier this month, Nasa’s Wide-Field Infrared Survey Explorer (Wise) reported the results from its search for “Planet X”, a hypothesised planet far out in the solar system. It found no evidence for a new planet larger than Saturn within 10,000 AU of the sun. But Saturn is 95 times more massive than Earth, so a smaller Super Earth could go undetected in that region.

    Already realizing the effects of this nearing planet’s orbit with the accompanying magnetic pull?:

    I have noticed over the last ten years, as I am sure the readers of this site also have noticed, the drastic change in our present day weather patterns, increased earthquake/ volcanic activity, reports of the gradual slowing of the Earth’s rotation and geomagnetic planetary field deviations, and other anomalies. All of which are allegedly due to the energy being released by our planet in response to the gravitational field that is preceding that projected planet.

    Nasa will continue to identify objects ahead and around X to misdirect attention. The normal helpful & professional Nasa employees are being evasive & condescending when asked about it. How Nasa has chosen to handle their knowledge of Planet X fits into a pattern of concealment X has INTENTIONALLY BEEN MADE TO SOUND RIDICULOUS and confusing for several reasons. One of which is to avoid causing panic among the world’s population. Many websites and articles continue to be written about Planet X that spread lies. They say it only MAY exist and comes around only once every few million years IF it does. This disinformation is widespread. X’s MASS, MAGNETISM & DENSITY is such that it DISRUPTS the surface of EVERY PLANET IT PASSES. In fact, history shows approximately 7 YEARS PRIOR to its passage its far reaching eletromagnetic/gravitational influence changes Earths core flows TRIGGERING WEATHER, VOLCANIC & SEISMIC ACTIVITY.

    Something to ponder….things don’t always have “man made” causes as the progressives would like everyone to believe.

  151. Well surprise, surprise Obama should score 60+. Obama’s Cum Gang probably got him quite a few points and the Rev. Wright ‘down low’ dating service for people with beards we heard about & the Man’s Country (?) rumors should count for 10 or 15.

    Quote: …At heart, Hare’s test is simple: a list of 20 criteria, each given a score of 0 (if it doesn’t apply to the person), 1 (if it partially applies) or 2 (if it fully applies). The list includes: glibness and superficial charm, grandiose sense of self-worth, cunning/manipulative, pathological lying, emotional shallowness, callousness and lack of empathy, a tendency to boredom, impulsivity, criminal versatility, behavioural problems in early life, juvenile delinquency, and promiscuous sexual behaviour. A pure, prototypical psychopath would score 40. A score of 30 or more qualifies for a diagnosis of psychopathy. Hare says: “A friend of mine, a psychiatrist, once said: ‘Bob, when I meet someone who scores 35 or 36, I know these people really are different.’ The ones we consider to be alien are the ones at the upper end.”…

  152. Uh oh….but predictable in this regime’s big plan:

    Muslim Brotherhood Launches US Political Network to Promote Sharia Law

    “The radical Muslim Brotherhood has built up a political network that seeks to turn Muslims into a voting bloc. The group is hoping to institutionalize favorable policies like Shariah law in the US.”

    Investor’s Business Daily reported:

    With an eye toward the 2016 election, the radical Muslim Brotherhood has built the framework for a political party in America that seeks to turn Muslims into an Islamist voting bloc.

    ‘Muslim voters have the potential to be swing voters in 2016,” said Nihad Awad in launching the benign-sounding U.S. Council of Muslim Organizations, whose membership reads like a Who’s Who of Brotherhood front groups.

    “We are aiming to bring more participation from the Muslim community.”

    USCMO also aims to elect Islamists in Washington, with the ultimate objective of “institutionalizing policies” favorable to Islamists — that is, Shariah law.

    This development bears careful monitoring in light of the U.S. Brotherhood’s recently exposed goal to wage a “civilization jihad” against America that explicitly calls for infiltrating the U.S. political system and “destroying (it) from within.”

    The subversive plan was spelled out in hundreds of pages of founding archives that the FBI confiscated from a Brotherhood leader’s home in the Washington suburbs after 9/11.

    Think the IRS will target these guys?

  153. bob strauss

    Gotta be out in time for the mid term election.
    Surprise! Jailed Communist Rep Jesse Jackson Jr. Getting Out of Prison Sooner Than Expected

  154. bob strauss

    Muslim version of politics
    Muslim Brotherhood Warns Britain Not to Ban Them or They May Resort to Terrorism


    students at a movie theater breakout in the star spangled banner

  156. oldsailor81

    Allegedly, immediately before the Washington state mudslide there was 1.1 quake in the area. It would seem to me that if the ground is saturated with moisture it becomes much heavier per cubic foot. This compounded by a loosely compacted soil, to begin with tells me that the presence of these variables was all that was necessary to precipitate the landslide. The ACE had warned the town REPEATEDLY that the area was a tragedy waiting to happen. But nobody bothered to take any precautions. I guess it amounted to “ohhhhhh HO HUM”! I would feel safe in saying that all of the lives lost might have been avoided.

  157. oldsailor81

    It is really heartening to see,and hear such a thing. Not very long ago we had a NEO NAZI group in our city who went around singing
    “Das Deuschenlied” at public events……and nearly everytime they caused some pretty hairy profanity against themselves by veterans ,and survivors of WW2 dead. They were run out of the area everytime they opened their mouths.

  158. oldsailor81

    That video seems to say that there are still some children who know UP from DOWN. Warms my tired old heart!

  159. bob strauss

    Team Arpaio: LFBC Tip Of The Iceberg; Sheriff Arpaio To Change Political Landscape Forever

  160. oldsailor81

    I was not praising the Nazi nitwits, the spontaneous singing of the beautiful little kids just brought it to mind,and I thought I would mention it for CONTRAST!

  161. Is Obama a Psychopath?

    This article covers many aspects of his behavior and explains a lot.

    Here is a sample:

    … is interesting to consider some characteristics when combined with actions of President Obama since he took office. He certainly had the initial charisma and likability. He had the perfect-looking family with the perfect-looking face at the perfect time for America to fall for him. No matter what his opponents pointed to, no one questioned him for fear of being labeled racists.
    Psychopaths often act audaciously, without regard for those affected. They get away with actions that others in their positions haven’t, because of their ability to remain calm even when committing atrocities, and their ability to manipulate whole groups of people.


  162. Good morning CW, et al.

    I have a question pertaining to the airplane search for the black-box.

    In the news this morning, they are claiming a possible ping during this search. However, everything I have researched states that the battery in a black-box only lasts for about 5 days at the most before it no longer sends out a signal?

    So how can they picking up anything at this time?

  163. Here is something else,

    Over the weekend, I was watching a show called “How it’s made”, and it showed how “black-boxes” are made, including the battery and it’s life span (also states about 5 days).


  164. It does seem convenient William if one is trying to downplay the other alternatives. We got a ping, sorry we couldn’t find the plane, kill the alternative story-lines

  165. Oldsailor,

    I agree my friend. I think the Navy has some really cool stuff and has come a long way in technology over the decades. Something I learned long ago; when the public gets to see it and knows about it, they are 5 steps ahead with what the really have. 🙂

  166. Zach,

    Exactly! How can anyone be picking up a ping at this time? If the battery life is only up to about 5 days, what are they picking up? That makes no sense…

    The news should be questioning the life span of the battery in a black-box that sends out the ping? Shouldn’t they?

    Just seems like a false flag to me.

  167. citizenwells

    Good morning William, Zach, et al.

  168. William – I was an In-flight Tech on P-3 A’s and B’s in the 70’s and the tech was impressive. However, the rumors of what they were working on was incredible. Hopefully, they are continuing to be 5 steps ahead.

  169. Hi William,
    Everything I’ve heard for the last month (and it’s a bunch) is that the battery life is 30 days, so right now they are on the edge. However, I do think that it is possible this latest discovery could be used to stifle all of the alternate theories. So far they have found not one piece of wreckage from the plane.

  170. zachjonesishome at 7:42 am —

    “… the rumors of what they were working on was incredible.”
    “Hangar 1 The UFO Files: Space Weapons”

    “Hangar 1 files reveal that President Ronald Reagan’s personal encounters with UFOs may have been the driving force behind his “Star Wars” Strategic Defense Initiative.”

  171. Cabby,

    I honestly don’t know the full extent of battery life of a black-box other than what I have reviewed pertaining to this, which is no more than 5 days. Perhaps there are some that last a bit longer, but I have not found one that does in the tech engineering research portion of it.

  172. William &CabbyAZ
    I wish that I could tell what I know about the hearing abilities of the Sonobouys. During the 1960s we printed much of the technical service manuals which ultimately became the property of the US Navy. Even the now OBSOLETE AN APQ84 and the next prototype the AN APQ 94, have never been removed from the classified list. Anyone with a background in either AMATUER radio,or military service school would have the basic ability to comprehend what makes the sonobouys,and the advanced hearing of our fast tac subs,function. The on board systems are a lot more sensitive,and technologically advanced. The sonobouys were originally developed as a tool in the ASW warchest of surprises for the enemy, so you can see the reasons why the technology though getting old is still classified.
    The sonobouys were originally dropped from either fixed wing aircraft or helicopters. Some were designed to be sunken to the bottom of the sea,and their recorded data was extracted by submarines. But the listening technology has developed FAR beyond what existed in the 60s.
    Anybody who thinks that China and Russia do not have such technology is a FOOL. They have the technology,and what is worse they have not stood around with their fingers up their noses. I would be expecting both to have at least the same level of underwater hearing ability, as we do,and rest assured the probability exists that they might have a BETTER level of hearing. Never,never underestimate the smarts of your enemy.

  173. oldsailor81

    While I am not sure ,I believe that the batteries in the black boxes, are subject to periodics just as is the aircraft itself. I would think that the batteries would be replaced after a certain number of hours, whether they had been used or not. Anything made by man is subject to deterioration,either chemical,mechanical,or electrical. Even the best materials that man can devise are not infinitely durable. Everything deteriorates eventually. This is primarily why there must be a set term of service for a battery. That said if the EPB of the blackbox is relatively fresh then there is no reason why it would not either match,or surpass the guaranteed term of life……even at 15,000 ft below the surface of the sea!

  174. oldsailor81

    I was forced to blow the dust off of a few of my old books,and do some research into the navigation, and inertial guidance system used by Boeing. However I had to take a look at some stuff which I begged from a friend who is a HOMEBREW AIRPLANE BUILDER EXTROARDINAIRE. He retired from air freighting. He spent nearly 30 years at his FUN.He developed a heart murmer,and his employer decided it was time for him to get out of the company aircraft. (Fedex). Anyway he provided me with a lot of stuff relating to the auto pilot,and the fly by wire system of the 777. Right off however,I discovered that I was 100%right regarding the autopilot system….it needs constant input from BOTH the altimeter,and the GYROCOMPASS, in order to maintain a programmed heading. Without the altimeter function the aircraft can either ascend,or descend (wander),similarly if the GYROCOMPASS has no input the aircraft can wander (direction). The computer system must have constant stream of information regarding what the aircraft is doing, in order to make corrections automatically. If any portion of the electrical distribution is either cut off or impaired, both the gyro and the altimeter outputs will fail as well. This could have happened as a result of an electrical fire, either at the battery box, or anywhere in between it ,and the cockpit. If the airplane was @ 35,000 ft. you must keep in mind that everybody on board is already breathing provided oxy. If there was an electrical fire, it could easily have taken out the oxy metering system,along with everything else. At 35,000 ft. and you are without oxygen then your life expectancy is extremely short. ….but if the pilot and co pilot were both already either overcome or dead, and without any inertial guidance then the aircraft could slowly climb to the alleged 45,000 ft from which it ultimately came back down to 12,000 feet. I think that this COULD have been the last act of whoever was in the cockpit. This could have been done in a vain attempt to get the airplane down into breathable outside atmosphere(Approximately 10,000 ft.). But I have my doubts about that, If that had occurred the AUTO PILOT would have been turned off. If the auto pilot had been turned off the aircraft would never have flown itself an additional 1200 miles.That suggest that the integrity of the airplane was broken,and there was probably a subsequent massive depressurisation of the aircraft, which at 45,000 ft. without oxy your life expectancy is in seconds. Yet even though the inertial guidance was gone the autopilot somehow kept the aircraft flying, I tend to think that if there was initially a fire on board ,without oxygen it could not get any worse and finally died, I believe that all people on board were already dead or totally incapacitated. The airplane made the abrupt turn during the initial stage of the fire, and the flight deck crew was already incapacitated, so they would not be able to correct the heading. I believe that the heading that the airpllane finally ended up on was largely accidental, and the auto pilot tried to maintain it. Without input from the gyro,or altimeter, the aircraft slowly lost altitude until it impacted the sea.

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