NC unemployment rate drops while labor force plummets, Participation rate drops 4 % since Obama took office, 1.7 % since McCrory took office, NC losing jobs and workers

NC unemployment rate drops while labor force plummets, Participation rate drops 4 % since Obama took office, 1.7 % since McCrory took office, NC losing jobs and workers

“11.4%: What the U.S. unemployment rate would be if labor force participation were back to January 2008 levels.” …James Pethokoukis, American Enterprise Institute, June 2013

“Nearly half of U.S. companies are reluctant to hire full-time employees because of the ACA. One in five firms indicates they are likely to hire fewer employees, and another one in 10 may lay off current employees in response to the law.

Other firms will shift toward part-time workers. More than 40 percent of CFOs say their companies will consider switching some jobs to less than 30 hours per week or targeting part-time workers for future employment.”…Duke University Fuqua School of Business December 11, 2013

“Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.”…George Orwell, “1984″



We have the Obama administration touting job creation.

Governor Pat McCrory of NC is pleased with the improvement in the jobs situation.

The truth has stayed mostly hidden or under reported.

To fix a problem it is important to:
A) Acknowledgement the problem.
B) Understand the problem.

It appears that neither A or B is the case.

The Labor Force Participation Rate in NC has dropped 4 percent since Obama took office in January 2009 and 1.7 percent since Pat McCrory took office in January 2013.

The real unemployent rate in the US and NC?

Well over 10 percent.

The following article at least attempts to present the truth.

From WRAL March 28, 2014.

“NC employers shed thousands of jobs in February; unemployment rate dips”
“North Carolina’s unemployment rate fell again in February, but employers in the state continued to shed jobs, according to data released Friday by the state Department of Commerce.

A survey calculating nonfarm payrolls recorded 11,300 fewer jobs in the month after a decline of more than 7,000 jobs in January.

Despite the drop in jobs, the state’s unemployment rate dipped to 6.4 percent, marking the eighth straight month of steady decline. North Carolina’s unemployment rate is down 2.2 percentage points from February 2013 and is now better than the national unemployment rate, which was 6.7 percent last month.

The state’s labor force in February was 4,659,236, down 7,349 since January. The labor force is down more than 60,000 since February 2013, evidence of many people, some of them the long-term unemployed, are dropping out of the job market and are no longer counted in the unemployment rate calculation.

“If North Carolina is going to see a healthy long-term recovery in employment growth, we need to see all jobless workers moving into jobs, rather than out of the labor force. And we’re not seeing that because job creation remains anemic,” said Allan Freyer, an analyst with the NC Justice Center.

The number of people unemployed – those who are looking for jobs – fell sharply, from 310,974 in January to 296,226 in February.

Employers continue to shed jobs

Employers in North Carolina shed more than 11,000 jobs in February, and only three nonfarm sectors saw growth during the month.
NC Department of Commerce.”

“Gov. Pat McCrory said Friday that he’s pleased to see more people getting back to work.”

Read more:

By the way, the labor force in NC was 4,728,203  when McCrory took office. It was 4,659,236 in February 2014.

131 responses to “NC unemployment rate drops while labor force plummets, Participation rate drops 4 % since Obama took office, 1.7 % since McCrory took office, NC losing jobs and workers

  1. OT, but……

    Ultimate movie experience? Earthquake hits LA cinemas during end of the world scene in Noah

    Moviegoers in Los Angeles were given a real show during at least one screening of Noah when a pretty significant tremor shook the building – just at the point the world pretty much ends.

    Tweets of moviegoers follow.

  2. This is the kind of crap demorats are worried about, not jobs.
    White House Looks to Regulate Cow Farts

  3. Bob Strauss…..
    That is the typical level of LIBERAL mentality!
    BTW I was at butterdezillion’s site earlier tonight,and she was talking aabout the Fuddy airplane crash. The person she was talking with was some sort of radio person. He doesn’have his facts straight regarding the Cessna Caravan. It is not powered by a piston engine,it is powered by a P-^ P&W TURBO PROP engine. Turbo props DON’T have pistons,or connecting rods. Perhaps somebody who visits her blog can pass that info along…..In addition it is obvious that she has not yet seen the picture of the individual in the water wearing a US Marshal’s Service cap. She needs to revisit all of the photos that were on line. Maybe somebody can pass that on to her as well.

  4. TYPO = P-^= NO …………should be P-6 P&W turbo prop engine.

  5. citizenwells

    From a retired military friend:

    Well America … will you wake up in time or will your children grow up in another world?

    For everyone who wanted change here we go…

    How about this for change?

    Just the messenger!!! It’s up you to decide how you feel about this.


    Look who’s new in the white house!

    Arif Alikhan
    Assistant Secretary for Policy Development for the U.S. Department of Homeland Security

    Mohammed Elibiary
    Homeland Security Adviser

    Rashad Hussain
    Special Envoy to the Organization of the Islamic Conference(OIC)

    Salam al-Marayati
    Obama Adviser and founder of the Muslim Public Affairs Council and is its current executive director

    Imam Mohamed Magid-
    Obama’s Sharia Czar from the Islamic Society of North America

    Eboo Patel-
    Advisory Council on Faith-Based Neighborhood Partnerships

    This is flat-out scary!!!

    The foxes are now officially living in the hen house…

    Now ask me why I am very concerned!!!

    Do you feel OK with this???

    How can this happen, and when will we wake up???
    We are quiet while our Country is being drastically changed!!!

    If you’re not CONCERNED, DELETE this.

    Go to bed tonight…sleep well!

    Otherwise, pass it on get the word out!

    We’ve got to have some relief starting with the 2014 Elections!

  6. Citizenwells……..

    Now if the above information doesn’t move the people of this country to action….then nothing will….my compliments to your military friend….he should have listed all the Islamic military training sites too….there is one located in York County SC…just about 30 mles from Charlotte…..

  7. Here’s something to think about this morning….

    With the disappearance of those on Malaysian Airlines MH370 billionaire Jacob Rothschild becomes the sole owner of an important semiconductor patent.

    Coincidence? I think not! The mysteries surrounding Malaysian Airliner MH-370 continue to grow with each passing day and Mr. Rothschild is smack dab in the middle.

    Illuminati member, Rothschild, is believed to have exploited the airliner to gain full Patent Rights of an incredible KL-03 micro-chip. The US technological company, Freescale Semiconductor, who shared its rights with Rothschild, had twenty senior members on

    board who had just launched a new electronic warfare gadget for military radar system’s the day before the plane went missing.

    The Semiconductor company develops microprocessors, sensors, and other technology including stand-alone semiconductors that perform dedicated computing functions.

    But the questions that arise are why were there so many Freescale employees traveling together? What were their jobs? Their mission? And did they employees carry valuable cargo? With all the power our elite carry, why couldn’t they track down the missing plane?

    Of the 239 people aboard flight MH370, most of them were engineers and others working to make the company’s chip facilities in Tianjin, China and Kuala Lumpur more efficient.

    “These were people with a lot of experience and technical background and they were very important people,” Haws said. “It’s definitely a loss for the company.” Mitch Haws vice president of global communications and investors relations

    According to the Freescale’s website, operations for the company began in 1972 and covered an eight hectare site that tests and manufactures microprocessors, digital signal processors and integrated radio frequency circuits.

    Furthermore it owns Freescale RF which is involved in making solutions for Aerospace and Defense including: Battlefield communications, Avionics, HF Radar – Band L and S, Missile Guidance, Electronic Warfare, and Identification (IFF).

    But here’s where it gets even more interesting. The Freescale’s shareholders include the Carlyle Group who’s past advisors have included ex-US president George Bush Sr and former British Prime Minister John Major. Some of the companies previous clients include the construction firm owned by the family of Osama bin Laden, the Saudi Binladin Group.

    What makes this claim stand out above all the other theories is the fact that so many highly qualified staff members were on board and if the airliner crashed into the Indian Ocean, as recently reported, then this would validate the claim all the more.

    Considering the large passenger jet had flown undetected for six hours, the elites had to be involved because they are the only ones who can accomplish such a task.

    According to World Truth TV…..

  8. Good Morning All. I follow the current earthquakes happening and when anything other than a tiny one occurs at Yellowstone, my eyebrows rise.

    32km ENE of West Yellowstone, Montana
    2014-03-30 11:12:24 UTC-04:006.0 km
    32km ENE of West Yellowstone, Montana
    2014-03-30 11:07:49 UTC-04:006.6 km

    33km ENE of West Yellowstone, Montana
    2014-03-30 09:56:40 UTC-04:007.7 km
    34km ENE of West Yellowstone, Montana
    2014-03-30 09:30:52 UTC-04:004.5 km

    37km ENE of West Yellowstone, Montana
    2014-03-30 08:34:39 UTC-04:006.8 km
    35km ENE of West Yellowstone, Montana
    2014-03-30 06:36:25 UTC-04:001.6

  9. There was an earthquake just now in Las Floras, Portugal (The Azores), which also sets atop a supervolcano possibility. Hmmmm.

    141km ENE of Santa Cruz das Flores, Portu

  10. CW…………
    Start Sweeping the Dirty Dozen Under the Rug!

    Vulnerable Democratic Seats

    Alaska – Mark Begich won by 1-point in 2008 after Republican Ted Stevens was convicted of minor crimes just days before the general election. The conviction was later thrown out when it was later discovered that the prosecution had hidden key evidence that would have likely led to a non-guilty verdict. Without the prosecutorial misconduct, the US Senate outcome would have likely been different. Begich provided the 60th vote for Obamacare.

    Arkansas – Mark Pryor didn’t face opposition in 2008, which was odd given the conservative tilt of the state. This will be his first time facing the voters since voting for Obamacare supporting most of the Obama agenda since. Democrat Blanche Lincoln lost by 21-points in 2010 after facing the voters for the first time and the GOP is hoping to repeat that performance against Pryor.

    Colorado – Mark Udall won with 53% of the vote in his first contest and would be the favorite to win re-election. But there are a number of candidates who could make the race competitive for Republicans.

    Iowa – Tom Harkin won by a healthy 26-point margin in 2008, but he decided not to seek re-election in 2014. Republicans have a fairly wide pool of candidates for a possible takeover.

    Louisiana – Mary Landrieu has won election to the US Senate by an average of just 3 points in three elections. She remains one of the few Democratic senators in the south and, along with Pryor, will face voters for the first time since voting for Obamacare. Her blue-dog claims may be less convincing this time. So far, Congressman Bill Cassidy has has declared his candidacy for the GOP side and has raised considerable cash. (Full Louisiana 2014 analysis)

    Michigan – The retirement hits keep coming for the Democrats as sure bet Carl Levin announced he would also retire in 2014. Both the GOP and Democratic fields are wide open and each side has recent victories to brag about. President Obama and Debbie Stabenow both won the state in 2010, but the Governor’s mansion any many statewide races flipped to the Republicans previously

    Minnesota – “Comedian” Al Franken won by the slimmest of margins in a highly controversial outcome in 2008. Minnesota has trended blue, but Obama did not run away with the state in 2012, having picked up just 52% of the vote. So far, the GOP hasn’t had much luck finding a candidate. Former Governor Tim Pawlenty and US Senator Norm Coleman have passed on a run.

    Montana – Mac Baucus announced he was retiring after his current term expires in this red state. Now it is up to the Republicans to find a candidate who can put the state in the win column. Former Democratic Governor Brian Schweitzer would be the best hope for Democrats. Mitt Romney carried the state by double digits in 2012.

    New Hampshire – Jeanne Shaheen is one for two in this US Senate race but won’t be going up for round three against John E. Sununu. Sununu won by 5 points in 2002, while Shaheen won by 7 in 2008. New Hampshire is very unpredictable electorally. So far, there is no clear frontrunner to challenge Shaheen.

    North Carolina – Kay Hagan enjoyed upset victories in 2008 along with Democrat Governor Bev Purdue and President Obama. Obama lost the state in 2012 and Purdue didn’t even try to run for re-election given her unpopularity (Subsequently won handily by the GOP ticket). Polls show Hagan is upside down in job approval and she will see no shortage of potential opponents.

    South Dakota – Tim Johnson is another “moderate” Democrat in a heavily Republican state who announced is retirement rather than face the voters after voting for Obamacare. Former GOP Governor Mike Rounds announced his candidacy and the state’s lone congresswoman Kristi Noem, who just won re-election state-wide by 15 points, is considering a run. The Democrats best (and perhaps only) chance at keeping the seat rests with former congresswoman Stephanie Herseth Sandlin, who lost to Noem by just over 2 points n 2010.

    West Virginia – Jay Rockefeller has decided not to run for re-election, giving the GOP a decent chance at finally winning a Senate seat in supposed-to-be-really-conservative West Virginia. Congresswoman Shelley Moore Capito is running for the Republicans and very early polls have given her a healthy lead against potential Democratic opponents.

  11. March 30, 2014

    Sharon Rondeau:

    “Mark Levin Facebook Page Administrator Bans Comments on Arpaio Obama Criminal Investigation”

  12. >>> From January 16, 2012

    “In an interview with about his new book—“Ameritopia: The Unmaking of America” …

    “I believe to a great extent we now live in a post-constitutional country, where much of the Constitution is ignored or evaded,” Levin told

    “What I want the readers to understand, what I want the public to understand is, this is not new and it’s going to destroy us,” said Levin. “It’s going to destroy us because it is an attack on the individual. It is an attack on the nature of human beings.””
    >>> From October 2, 2011


    “Mark Levin is known to hang up in your face if you mention Obama’s eligibility issue”
    >>> From August 24, 2011

    “Mark Levin: Obama Not Qualified; I Don’t Mean Constitutionally; I’ll Leave That To The Goofballs”

    [go to 4:28 for “Goofballs” comment]

  13. Judge Jeanine To Obama: Putin’s Been ‘B*tch-Slapping’ You Since The Snowden Mess!

  14. Disgusting: Clinton Snared In Pedophile Ring

  15. Hi Zach,

    Yes, there was notification from the U.S. Geological Survey of the Yellowstone quake (magnitude 4.8) last night. A friend in OK reported several magnitude quakes overnight; we know what’s happening in CA.

    Here’s a pretty good site, if you’re interested; it shows the location of quakes over the past day, the magnitude, and depth.

  16. March 30, 2014

    Sharon Rondeau (“The Post & Email”):


    “On Saturday, a story appeared at (BIN) titled “CIA Reveals Arpaio Information To Media – Video – Apocalypse Breaks Right Now Before your Eyes.”

    The Post & Email contacted Zullo about the BeforeItsNews articles, to which he responded, “When the time is decided upon by Sheriff Arpaio to release our information, I personally will put out a public statement. If you don’t hear it from me it isn’t true.””

  17. GORDO,

    Thanks for posting this; the Obots are hard at work!

    Believe nothing unless it comes from Sheriff Joe, Mike Zullo and the CCP; they have the goods. No one else has what they have, especially suspect people and web sites.

    Waiting and praying.

  18. What do you expect from a Kenyan usurper.
    Obama Making Soldiers Dig Latrines in Kenya

  19. Surrendering America

    Obama was elected as an antidote to all the flags liberals were forced to look at following 9/11. He was the anti-American candidate, elected to take the Last Best Hope down a few pegs. Credit where it’s due — Obama has come through. Four appalling examples of his deliberate weakening of America are the Internet, the military, energy policy, and NASA.

    Fox News provided an overview in the special Surrendering America. In case you missed it:

  20. Does anyone read Ann Barnhardt?
    I did for giggles. Not any longer.
    She has insulted my intelligence before–but not any longer.
    1) the BC issue
    2) chemtrail aerosol spraying
    3) 9/11 and those behind it…
    and now
    4) Flight 370 had mechanical failure and anyone thinking otherwise is stupid or wears a number of tin foil hats of different colors

    Can someone so adept in economics and finance be so fricking naïve??

  21. More and more questions:


  22. Barack Hussein Obama is registered to vote in Washington, D.C., not as Barack Hussein Obama, but as Barry Soetoro.

    The latter was his name when he was adopted by Obama’s mother’s (Stanley Ann Dunham) second husband, the Indonesian Lolo Soetoro. (Please note, however, that there are questions as to whether Obama’s mother and his supposed biological father, Barack Hussein Obama Sr., were ever married, there being no trace of either a marriage or divorce certificate.)

    Lolo Soetoro and Stanley Ann Dunham were married on March 15, 1965, when little Barry was 4 years old. In 1967, when Barry was 6 years old, he and his mother joined Lolo in Indonesia. Barry lived in Indonesia from ages 6 to 10. In 1971, 10-year-old Barry was sent back to Honolulu to live with his maternal grandparents; Barry’s mom remained in Indonesia. The marriage between Dunham and Soetoro ended in 1980. (Source)

    You can verify Barry Soetoro’s voter registration for yourself. Here’s how:

    1. Go to the website of the District of Columbia Board of Elections. Click here or go to:

    2. Type in the first name: Barry; and the last name: Soetoro.

    3. Type in the birth date of August 4, 1961 — Barack Obama’s birthdate, according to the White House’s website.

    4. Type in the zip code 20500, the zip code for the White House at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave, Washington, DC, according to

  23. I didn’t find the information for barry.

  24. Explosive Letter Blasts Supreme Court Justice John Roberts and President Obama for Obamacare
    This man’s fiery letter is worth a look.

  25. Better link to story

    Explosive Letter Blasts Supreme Court Justice John Roberts and President Obama for Obamacare
    This man’s fiery letter is worth a look.

  26. King Abdullah Kicks Obama Out of Saudia Arabia ?

    You’d think American foreign policy couldn’t sink any lower than standing by while Vladimir Putin re-conquers the Warsaw Pact nations. Then you’ve underestimated Barack Obama’s incompetence.

    Apparently, Obama didn’t bow low enough to King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia. Whatever happened, an “intimate” evening planned for Obama and Abdullah was abruptly cancelled after a two-hour meeting between the two leaders. A meeting intended to “mend fences” between the two men.

    UPDATE: Here’s the video from Lou Dobbs on Fox Business…….

  27. Good morning CW, et al,

    Did anyone else see the interview with “Surfer Dude”, where he turned down an 80K job, so he could stay on government handouts?

  28. citizenwells

    Good morning William, et al.

  29. citizenwells

    Diego Garcia???

    “Multiple sightings of objects floating in the ocean by Chinese, Australian and New Zealand aircraft on Friday raised hopes that authorities had made the right call to shift the search around 700 miles (1,127 kilometers) northeast of a previous zone because of new calculations of radar data. But items fished out of the water turned out to be unrelated to the missing plane.”

  30. citizenwells

  31. Ladies and Gentlemen….
    A proud supporter of Communism

  32. RMINNC…….
    I would have to add that if she likes Communist China so well perhaps she will decide to make it her permanent home.I doubt if anybody in America will ever miss her.

  33. Whenever I see a picture of MOOOOOOchelle,it makes me want to go OINK,OINK,OINK.!

  34. Does anybody out there still have the photographs of the people in the water after the ditching of the Cessna Caravan. I am particularly interested in the photo showing the person wearing the US Marshal’s cap.

  35. Is there anybody out there who has the sort of computer equipment that can enlarge and enhance the US Marshals insignia on the baseball cap that is being worn by one of the people in the water. I will pay for such an enhancement. I believe that it was one of the two US Marshals that were aboard that flight who perpetrated her murder. If they were escorting her then they had a LAWFUL DUTY TO PROTECT HER from such an attack. Why were they on a PRIVATE FLIGHT? It is either or both who would have had the means,and perhaps the orders from above to take her out. All that would be needed would be an overdose of drugs via an injection below water….out of sight and out of mind. Her alleged assistant is still not cleared of wrongdoing either. Literally anybody could have easily stabbed her with a syringe containing a massive overdose of drugs which would appear like cardiac arrithmia. Classic example……Jim Mc Dougal. He had NO HISTORY of any heart related problems….yet he died of a massive heart attack soon after he was administered a shot in his cell, at nearly midnight. After his death there was never a legally executed autopsy conducted. He was cremated soon thereafter.

  36. be aware, …..the enhanced photographic work MUST bear CERTIFICATION that it is a photograph of the insignia which was on the cap being worn by a person in the water at the time,and place of the alleged accident.

  37. ……..I want the absolute best possible resolution along with about 100% enlargement. If you know of anyone having both the equipment,and the knowledge necessary to satisfactorily execute this undertaking, you only need to contact me first via this blog.

  38. oldsailor:

  39. BTW…….If anybody seta out to take on this task,I would like as much of the face of this person included in the enlargement,and enhancement.

  40. Maybe it should be the “First Laddie”. “She” looks so masculine in that shot waving the commie flag.

  41. Kiltie……..

    Maybe it is the First Laddie…..time will tell.

  42. Craig…..
    Can you tell me how to download the photograph onto a dvd?

  43. I have an older Compaq system with dvd writerand cd writer(Lightscribe)

  44. oldsailor81

    You should be able to right click on the image and save it to your drive. Stick a disk in the computer and it should identify which drive it is.

    Good luck.

  45. kiltie,
    This is for you.

  46. If you are interested in Yellowstone, the best place to get real time seismic data is

  47. Regarding Yellowstone and if you would like to get your friends a little worried. Just google – yellowstone Helium 4 and Helium 3 big release – yellowstone ground rise – yellowstone earthquakes – Passover – Blood Moons in 2014-2015 and how Obama has betrayed Israel at every turn – then just spend a little time connecting them altogether. I don’t think I’ll be flying over Wyoming April 14 or 15th. Is there anything in the Bible Codes regarding these separate circumstances? If there is, then oh my.

  48. zachjonesishome | March 31, 2014 at 3:19 pm |

    Regarding Yellowstone and if you would like to get your friends a little worried. Just google – yellowstone Helium 4 and Helium 3 big release – yellowstone ground rise – yellowstone earthquakes – Passover – Blood Moons in 2014-2015 and how Obama has betrayed Israel at every turn – then just spend a little time connecting them altogether. I don’t think I’ll be flying over Wyoming April 14 or 15th. Is there anything in the Bible Codes regarding these separate circumstances? If there is, then oh my
    She’s due to blow.
    I’m happy I live to the west of Yellowstone, hopefully far enough west, I’ll be last, to feel the effects of ash fallout, after it circles the globe.

  49. Bob – If she blows, we are all in a world of hurt. Buy ammo.

  50. This is what I mean about West, he has a harsher tone, maybe he’s seen the light. He knows about the usurper’s legal problems.
    Allen West
    According to a new report, ICE is RELEASING more illegal aliens and more criminal aliens than they’re trying to remove. Got to keep all those freshly-minted Democrats in place!

  51. I saw that Bob. Unbelievable.

  52. Seeing With One’s Own Eyes: Evidence that the Hawaii Medical Examiner turned a blind eye to the death of Loretta Fuddy

  53. Sandy Hook Hoax

  54. How about we arrest the usurper to prove the Constitution is still in force.

  55. Update missi g airplane had exposive cargo was set off in new mexico march .

  56. Video showing march 18 explosion in new mexico could this be what was on the plane

  57. Video: Colorado Gubernatorial Candidate Questions Obama’s Forged Birth Certificate

  58. This person goes out of the way to excuse the possibility that the usurper is a foreigner, what a joke! Just sickening!
    Shocker: Beaton At The Aspen Times Goes There; Is Obama A Manchurian?

  59. The coordinates for the picture sent by IBM passenger from phone:
    Go here:

    Put in these at the bottom right where it says degrees—minutes– seconds

    -7 degrees 18 minutes 58.3 seconds LATITUDE
    72 degrees 25 minutes 35.6 seconds LONGITUDE

    Click on: SHOW POINT
    zoom in and you will see where the photo originated. Wow. You’ll probably
    recognize the heavy aircraft parked nearby.

    ( I used my Google Earth–got the same location using the latitude and longitude coordinates.0

  60. JayJay,
    We’re talking Diego Garcia?


    That’s what I said three weeks ago………Diego Garcia…

  62. NBC_Vic_Hern

    My gut feeling is Diego Garcia also.
    Did those 2 Navy Seals, assigned to protect SOMETHING OF VALUE in transit, really die of heroin overdose, or was it some
    deadly virus or bacteria? Why did disease experts from our own CDC and Chinese disease experts descend on Diego Garcia the day after the plane went missing?
    Is some investigative reporter connecting any dots?

  63. JayJay
    Pretty neat, like it. Do you know what ellipsoid is being used?
    Could have used this when I worked at Vandenberg AFB

  64. Good Morning CW, et. al.

  65. citizenwells

    Good morning Zach, et al.

  66. Oldsailor , someone on FR, said that one could buy those hats anywhere.

  67. The last I read is that it is ILLEGAL to duplicate any logo of a Federal Agency, whether it is on a cap or uniform The Federal Marshals Service is a FEDERAL Agency. If somebody is making and selling those hats he/she is out on a real limb. The people making them could face prosecution and be fined up to $10,000.00,and possibly slammer time.

  68. Admiral Says Obama Told Military Leaders: Accept Gays In Military Or Step Down…

    In a meeting with the heads of the five service branches in 2010, President Obama offered the leaders a choice: Support my efforts to end the military’s Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell policy, or resign.

    In a video obtained by BuzzFeed via a Freedom of Information Act request, Coast Guard Commandant Adm. Robert Papp revealed that Obama was unwilling to compromise with service leaders over DADT during a meeting in 2010. “We were called into the Oval Office and President Obama looked all five service chiefs in the eye and said, ‘This is what I want to do.’ I cannot divulge everything he said to us, that’s private communications within the Oval Office, but if we didn’t agree with it — if any of us didn’t agree with it — we all had the opportunity to resign our commissions and go do other things,” he said.

    Papp talked about the meeting during a Q&A session with U.S. Coast Guard Academy cadets following a leadership address to the corps on Jan 8. The admiral was asked how officers should respond to policies that they disagreed with but were required to enforce. “If I disagree morally with [a policy], it’s my obligation to voice that, regardless of the risk it might give my career,” he said. “I’ve been in those situations. I’ve been fortunate to have good leaders that have appreciated that.” Using himself as an example, Papp said it was OK for leaders to “not be thrilled” with a certain regulation, but if they didn’t “see anything terribly wrong with it,” it was their job as officers to support and enforce it.

    Keep reading…

    Looks like that meant also accepting the fabulous “parades” et al. Nowadays any new promotions to Gen. or Admiral you’ll have to wonder about!

  69. Just for the record….I looked up the laws relating to such duplicating of ANY DOJ seal DEVICE,or official ID;
    The laws are still on the books and,as such the person who duplicates any of the official logos of the DOJ can face prosecution and subsequent fine and/or up to 6 mos in prison. This was in part the reason why I wanted to obtain a sharpened up look at the logo. If it is an exact duplicate and was worn by a person on the crashed aircraft there is a strong probability that it was for the purpose of DECEPTION. As such if proven, then becomes a FELONY.

  70. Regarding the order from Soetoro that the top brass will either implement the revised so called GAY military person act or they have the option of resigning. I am sickened by the fact that the chiefs did not then speak up together and say to him “If you wish for us to implement your orders you must FIRST PROVE TO US THAT YOU ARE IN THE LEGAL POSITION TO DO SO. PROVE THAT YOU ARE LEGALLY THE POTUS. SHOW US YOUR BC, OR YOURSELF FACE CHARGES FROM THE ENTIRE MILITARY OF THE US.This proves to me that their primary interest is in themselves. Several chose to be separated from their careers,rather than go on the offensive,which is what they should have done. Yes Congress would try to prosecute all four of them,but all they had to do was order the military to take control of the US,at which point Soetoro,and all of his goons would have faced IMPRISONMENT.

  71. It is also now very clear that only the people who are seriously ill have enrolled in ACA. Most young people VERY MUCH RESENT the notion that they should be expected to pay for the healthcare of senior citizens. In all probability after a few months there is going to be a backlash cost to the taxpayer with an increase in federal income tax of at least another 10% in addition to that which already exists. At this point our Federal Individual tax will be in excess of 30%.BTW nearly a quarter of a billion dollars was wasted on the alleged Federal ACA website. Looks like Moooooochelle’s FRIENDS, and her (alleged) jerk-off husband’s goons will be able to retire with plenty of spending money….thanks to American taxpayers.

  72. Observer — Obama is trying to make the military follow the example of Ernst Rohm and the Storm Troopers, which were nearly all homosexuals. Advancement in the ranks depended on being a homosexual. Rohm was later executed on orders from Himmler as a potential rival. Rohm’s homosexual cohorts were also executed, not because they were homosexual, but because Rohm was considered such a threat to Hitler. But Hitler was a pervert, too and Nazism was steeped in the neo-paganism that the Liberal New Age movement tries to promote. (Also, though Islam forbids homosexual acts, male homosexual rape is used as an act of dominance in Muslim culture). I might add, as a retired Army noncom, the Don’t Ask Don’t Tell is the best that could be worked out to allow homosexuals to serve. Going beyond that is pure disaster for the military, both in terms of morale and morality. It is sick and evil, just as Nazism was sick and evil. Anyway, that’s how it looks to me.

  73. Dean M……..

  74. I I wonder what yoiu would call a muslim who was having sex with his best nanny goat.

  75. DeanM……..
    In the 1950s homosexuals were automatically awarded,a Section 8 discharge.(PSYCHO).

  76. oldsailor81 — I like how you refer to WH occupant as “Soetoro.” That is the only legally verifiable name we have for the guy. We don’t know what his name was at birth as the document he produced as a birth certificate is a demonstrable forgery. He should be impeached on that alone. If enough people would refer to him as “Barry Soetoro,” and refuse to call him “Obama” until he proves himself to be so, then maybe we would get some place? (As for the birth announcements on the newspaper microfilm, the CIA, in creating a false identity, would have covererd that base. They would have pulled it up and inserted into the microfilm. Document experts should check that out, too.) The Left is into this false document stuff, and truth is, they aren’t that good at it. They leave a trail–like the false document Dan Rather & CBS News tried to use against W.

  77. oldsailor81 — I try to have compassion for those who are sexually confused, but you are right and the military was right in 1950, there is no place for them in a military unit unless they can keep their proclivities entirely to themselves. When I was at Camp Alpha in Saigon, waiting to fly out back to the States, we were in this open bay barricks and a bucn of us woke up because some guy had been going from bunk to bunk touching folks in the private parts. I suddenly awakened and this “fairy” was parading around in girl’s green panties. He ran out and we chased him to turn him in, but he got away. That is why it used to be called “queer.” “Gay” is a euphemism for “sodomite.” It used to be said of the dominant or older man in a homosexual arrangement. The expression was, “Now isn’t he a gay fellow,” a sarcastic expression for the slang, “chicken hawk.” They try to recruit and corrupt young men and boys. It is really, really sick and those who have been aused by this sickness and then have it themselves–I feel sorry for. But there is no place in the military for this.

  78. oldsailor81 — One more comment on this– Soetoro wrote poetry as a young man which poetry suggest, at least in one poem, that he was a vicitm of homosexual abuse (sodomy) by Frank Marshall Davis. The tendency of victims of sodomy is rage which they then try to “normalize” rather than face their own rage. They then become homosexuals themselves. (I know personal examples of this among some friends and relatives.) Then there are those who take violent action against homosexuals, who have not tried to “normalize” their rage or were unable to. These are dubbed “homo-phobic. “Soetoro, in his poem, shows strong signs of trying to “normalize” his experience. It carries over to today in his trying to “normalize” it for the military. Which begs the question as we talk about this stuff–How in the world did we get to this point? A Muslim, socialist, homosexual, anti-American Commander in Chief with a fraudulent birth certificate and false identity, to include false social security number? How????

  79. Interested Bystander

    Hey All,

    Obama is on TV telling the American people that 7.1 million people signed up for the ACA.

    I smell horsesh!t.

    Or is that Obama’s breath?

    He’s lying again.

    I’ll suggest he won’t talk about the 6 million who got cancellation notices.

    So even if what he said IS true, that’s a net gain of ONLY 1.1 million people, when he went around telling us that 30 million people were uninsured.

    So less than 30% of those uninsured signed up.

    Plus the ACA put 6 million more in the uninsured category.

    Someone explain to me how this is good for the Country as a whole?

  80. Interested Bystander

    Hey All,

    A few more things.

    It’s been 25 days since that plane went missing.

    In this day and age I find it IMPOSSIBLE for SOMEONE not to know where that plane is.

    I believe if it was in the ocean, SOMETHING would have been found by now.

    Nothing has been found, so one would conclude that it is being hidden somewhere.

    I can NOT believe that with the technology we have today, that EVERY plane isn’t equipped with something that can NOT be turned off, so that we know where every aircraft is.

    Is onstar still available?

  81. bob strauss

    Barf bag alert!
    On April 1, the White House announced First Lady Michelle Obama will eye a run for the presidency in 2016 and that Barack will run as her vice presidential candidate. The presidential couple has constructed an exploratory committee to determine the funding and operational assistance that will be required for Michelle’s upcoming campaign.

    If the idea of another four to eight years with an Obama presidency is physically painful, and unfortunately, very possible.

    “I’ve loved living in the political spotlight over the past five years, but I’d like to take on a larger role in the government of our great nation,” Mrs. Obama told reporters. “I would genuinely love to be president.”

    Michelle Obama also hinted that her “hubby” would be on the ticket for a third election cycle. “We’ve come so far together under Barack’s presidency. What better way for him to continue to represent this country than by becoming my vice president?” Michelle asked.

  82. oldsailor81

    You are right on the money guy, and therein lies the reason why the ACA is the equivalent of SHOVELING MANURE AGAINST THE TIDE,AND VERY SOON THE NUMBERS OF THE COST IS GOING TO REAR IT’S UGLY HEAD, AND NOT EVEN Mzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. IMPORTANT will be able to WORDTWIST THAT ONE! Yet there are a hell of a lot of absolute morons who walk among us who think everything is so great. Talk about twisted mentalities…..but the twisted mentalities are the very people who put the BASTARD in the WACKY HOUSE TO BEGIN WITH.

  83. Interested Bystander

    Hey All,

    March has come and gone without ANY information from Zullo. (unless you think that saying that the “information is coming in faster than it can be processed” type of statement is information)

    I have to state that I fell for Larry Sinclair hook, line and sinker UNTIL he went to DC (the first time).

    He posted some video the first night he was there, and said more was to come. NOTHING else was given us. (I guess I shouldn’t post this, because he actually did post some “interview” teaser, saying that someone in the news wanted to interview him, and everyone over at Larry’s site guessed that it was Greta)

    He told us that he was going to have something “big” when he went to DC (the first time, not the time he was arrested after the Press Club “news” conference). He stated he needed to stay a while longer, and asked for donations. I was one of those dumba$$e$ that donated so he could stay.

    NOTHING came of it after he promised that it would.

    Then he asked for donations for ANOTHER trip for the Press Club appearance. I wasn’t foolish that time.

    Larry has NEVER came up with anything other than his story. And yes, for historical purposes, I bought a copy. (MY own history)

    Then the African Press International stated that they had a tape of Michelle yelling and screaming about something, and they stated that they would release it on this date, then that date, and they never did.

    Orly Taitz has had many a day in court, and when you listen to the tapes of those appearances, she sounds like an incompetent boob.

    I hope I get my motivation back, but to me this is another wild goose chase with Zullo. He has tasted a small part of “fame” and is feeding off of it.

    “They” told us last SUMMER that something big was going to be released. Here is is a half a year later, and they are STILL stalling.

    Oh I’ll watch video of the “information”, but I’m guessing it won’t amount to anything worth while.

    And let me also add, that those few on here that state that Zullo only has one chance at this, I think that’s simply rhetoric that Zullo has planted in your heads.

    The last I knew, if charges are filed, they do NOT have to be prosecuted together.

    But I DO respect your opinions.

    I hope you are right, but history is that I am.

  84. Interested Bystander

    Hey All,

    I find it right down idiotic that the Government makes a car company put airbags or seat belts in cars, that they have to meet certain “emission” guidelines, or that they get so many miles a gallon.

    Is there a part of our Constitution that I am not aware of?

    You know, the part that says that the Federal Government knows what is best for us?

    Is there ANY aspect of our lives that our Government doesn’t have it’s “nose” in?

    I don’t think so.

    Do they regulate toilet paper too?

  85. Interested Bystander


    How soon we forget………

    Not four months ago the media was all over the failure of the website.

    NOW it is being touted as the best thing since sliced bread.

    He’s a car salesman, and not a very good one, except of course to those who are alread indoctrinated.

    “Yes master”

  86. Interested Bystander

    “They” DO regulate toilet paper:

  87. Interested Bystander

    OK All,

    I have overstayed my welcome already.

    I’ve got most stuff off of my chest.

  88. IB — re Zullo, etc–the CIA has done a good job covering tracks for Soetoro. People have been intimidated (or perhaps bumped off) as well as sold a bill of goods under the heading of “in the interests of national security.” Rev. James David Manning was harassed by the Company

  89. oldsailor81

    The Fed is getting all over GM’s manure,but it strikes me that much of the BULLSHI# which alledgedly occurred was during the time that SOETORO ILLEGALLY took over GM,after which there was MASSE FIRINGS of management personell. Some of whom were possibly trying to overcome the problems at hand…… what I am saying perhaps we need to ask the BASTARD in the WACKEY HOUSE, why all the GM BOMBS,are developing very short fuses.

  90. Direct link to youtube:

  91. IB,
    You are on a roll today!! I don’t know about Zullo, but still hold out a smidgeon of hope. Certainly agree about the ACA numbers! The books are being cooked again just as with job data and the rest of the economy – All lies.

  92. oldsailor81

    Has everybody bought a new ESCALADE lately? How can you go wrong especially when 20,000 lard assed black females who weigh at least 600 lbs,and transport all 10 of her LIL BASTARDS to and from the local food bank every day,use the same vehicle. Must have one hell of a beefed up suspension,and high quality TRUCK TIRES. Not to mention an extremely high horsepower engine. Who cares about gasoline mileage,hell they get it FREE. OHHHHHH SOB,SOB the Messiah has arrived, the messiah has arrived, ohhhhhhh SOB,SOB.

  93. oldsailor81

    Do you suppose Orly is really a double agent, and everything she has uncovered is also in PUTIN’S hands? That would give PUTIN a ROYAL FLUSH…..even beats four of a KIND. har har


    Is this an April Fool’s joke or something…….I know she or it’s an everlasting joke, but is this for real?

    “Michelle Obama also hinted that her “hubby” would be on the ticket for a third election cycle. “We’ve come so far together under Barack’s presidency. What better way for him to continue to represent this country than by becoming my vice president?” Michelle asked.”

    If this happens I know for sure there will be a full blown revolution !

  95. Listening to the Obamacare numbers, and they are a joke.

  96. Wasn’t Sasquatch the one who was complaining that she felt too confined in The White House and that she hated it? That her every move was being dissected?

    I’m calling April Fools on that one…

  97. oldsailor81

    I went to The Birther Report and watched Stephen Pidgeons recital regarding Soetoro. Either Pidgeon is a FALSE FLAG,or he is totally wrong. First of all he heferred to Muslims as Moslems. That is INNACCURATE. Moslem people were WANDERERS OF THE DESERTS. They were not necessarily MUSLIM.
    He then made reference to a name change for Obama he found in British Columbia, wherein Soetoro allegedly used the name Valez as his present name. This is a misrepresentation of fact, and is a felony in the US as well as BC. This totally nullifies any legally adjudicated name change that may have occurred. In short he is STILL legally Barry Soetoro. I do not understand why an attorney of Pidgeon’s alleged repute, would overlook this issue, or willingly look the other way. Then Pidgeon goes on to say that he believes that Soetoro was born in Seattle. If that is the case then there would be a PUBLIC RECORD of the birth. We already looked at that. There is NO PUBLIC RECORD of such a birth having occurred during the 1961 year, in the state of Washington.

  98. oldsailor81

    In Washington State,like most of the other 50 states a BIRTH,A DEATH, A DIVORCE,A MARRIAGE, ETC, ARE ALL RECORDED AS PUBLIC INFORMATION, AND EASILY CHECKED OUT. So for whatever his reason I stand in conflict with most of his assertions. I have in the past been in contact with him regarding the INS records of Stanley Ann Dunham, which have allegedly been found as useless and destroyed by the INS. Such may be the case but there is over 1000 repository libraries throughout the US where the same exact records were sent,on microfilm rolls. It is only necessary to find the library which the goon squad missed. and you will kill several birds with one stone, and in all probability confirm the legal validity of the Lucas Smith document, as well.

  99. bob strauss

    A Congressman has come forward, saying that the votes for impeachment are there in the House. This should go viral. Please SHARE.

    We’re halfway done. The next step is the Senate, which means it’s more important than ever to expose Obama for what he is. Let’s make it happen.

  100. oldsailor81

    Bob Strauss…….
    An April fool would have to be a 12 month FOOL to think that MOOOOOOchelle would be any sort of POTUS……in fact such a FOOL would be a downright MORON voting for another MORON……but “birds of a feather……………..”

  101. bob strauss

    RMinNC | April 1, 2014 at 5:53 pm |


    Is this an April Fool’s joke or something…….I know she or it’s an everlasting joke, but is this for real?

    “Michelle Obama also hinted that her “hubby” would be on the ticket for a third election cycle. “We’ve come so far together under Barack’s presidency. What better way for him to continue to represent this country than by becoming my vice president?” Michelle asked.”

    If this happens I know for sure there will be a full blown revolution !
    Looks and sounds legit to me.

    Hopefully they will be in jail before it happens.

  102. oldsailor81

    Bob Strauss……..
    If the votes are there then there is a need for accurate documentation of everything. I don’t mean simple records, I mean CERTIFIABLE DOCUMENTATION which is admissable as evidence. Hopefully they will not go forward until they have him COLD! Otherwise the WORDTWISTERS will equalise everything and UP will be DOWN once again,and the action will be thrown out of Congress. JUST THE FACTS MAAM!

  103. oldsailor81

    Bob Strauss Re 6:34 PM
    If the NEUTER GENDER was to run for POTUS you say that there would be a revolution for sure…….I respectfully disagree, because there are now so many sick, mentally twisted perverts walking among us that they alone could probably dominate an election. Simply because many,many Americans now think being a SEXUAL DEVIATE is GREAT. So did the Roman (NOW EXTINCT) Empire, and later the NAZI (MASTER RACE). Look where they all are now.

  104. bob strauss

    The office of president of the US used to command respect, now the office has been usurped, and the usurper can’t even spell respect. They have turned the office into a laughing stock.

  105. bob strauss

    I went back and read the whole story, and the bottom line is:

    Oh, and by the way, APRIL FOOLS!

  106. Dean M. and Old Sailor,
    I appreciate your comments on gays in the military. Having had a dear relative who got “indoctrinated” many years ago during Army service, I have compassion for those who have been perverted and know that it has been going on since the beginning of sinful man. What is so absolutely appalling and reprehensible is for the CIC of the USA military to promote it so vigorously. To think that the head of the free world (I know he is an impostor) takes this position will never cease to grieve and amaze.

  107. oldsailor81

    CabbyAZ and DeanM…….
    In fighting people the word COHESION is a very important word because it tells exactly what must be present in fighting men.. and in all branches of our military. Cohesion is best defined as “BROTHERLY LOVE”. This is what a successful fighting unit is ….A BAND OF BROTHERS. Sexual deviates do NOT FIT the required PARAMETERS,simply because NOBODY wants a sexual deviate as a fighting comrad.

  108. bob strauss

    Anyone surprised by this Arab backed usurper?
    Obama Attacking Fracking

  109. oldsailor81

    Oliver North summed it up very well when he stated with such people in a platoon,or company,it becomes necessary to not only watch your flanks but when they are around you must also watch YOUR REAR.

  110. oldsailor81

    Bye bye all have a great day tomorrow. I dearly love to communicate with everybody. It means a lot to me.

  111. oldsailor81 — Orly is from Russia. Maybe there is a Putin connection. (I know you’ve signed off. Maybe you’ll see this tomorrow.)

  112. cabbyaz — The Don’t Ask Don’t Tell policy seemed to work. In my view, it is the best that can be done for “gays” if they want to serve their country in the military. Otherwise they need to be removed.

  113. Here on the Left Coast it is still early–7:40 pm. Anyway, as some of you know, I do Bible Code searches with a program I got from Israel. Instead of looking for “Barack Obama” I decided to search for “Barry Soetoro.” I found today that name in the Book of Numbers at an equidistant skip of 4848. I tried using a matrix of 606 which is 4848 divided by 8. At 5454 right adjacent to “Barry Soetoro” I found “Lo-Mi-Hawaii,” (“not from Hawaii”) and at 1212 flush with “Barry Soetoro,” “Va-Peh-Kenya,” (“but here, Kenya”). Then AFRICA comes up near “Mekhorah” (“birthplace”). This is chapter 9 thru 32. I don’t know what this means exactly. Is it saying what people will think, or what is fact? It is really impressive how compact the “finds” are. Based on the compactness as well as the exact multiples of 606 for the “finds” I would tend to see this as implying fact.

  114. Follow up: These Bible Code “finds” (mentioned above) intersect with the text that comments on native versus foreign sojourner. Intersecting with “ha-Azrach,” “native” is “Le-Luo,” “to (the) Luo” meaning the Luo tribe. Obama Sr. belonged to that tribe. Would this exclude Malcolm X as father, which seem indicated by other “finds” in the Bible Code? I don’t know. Funny how we are going to such measures to ferret out the truth. Goodness gracious–or just plain old Oy Vey! A guten ovent . . .Bye! Shalom!

  115. Not so fast — One more thing. A wild long shot. Something told me while I was signing off to try one more search in the BIble Code, looking for “Soetoro is from Kenya.” (Maybe there are other Soetoros in Kenya, but I doubt it.) Well, with a 25.7% probability, the statement in Hebrew, “Soetoro Mi-Kenya” comes up, but not just that. At a 1.41% probability “B.Soetoro Mi-Kenya” shows up, but not just in the 5 books of the Penteteuch, but in Leviticus alone at a skip of 1297 at a 0.0286% probability that this could be by chance. The alphabetic for 1297 (the 1297th word listed in Strong’s Dicionary of Bible words) is “Beram,” meaning “nevertheless, however, in spite of.” It is Biblical Aramaic (found in Ezra and Daniel). It indicates that something is being done in spite of certain contrary circumstances or expectations. There it is. “B.Soetoro is from Kenya” “Beram” in spite of what people say. Is there any other B.Soetoro who would be from Kenya? I think the one and only is illegally sitting in the White House. Unless the Bible Code is a total fluke, which I don’t think it is–every word in the Torah is in place as carefully copied by scribes who were told if they got one letter wrong they could destroy a universe–then “B.Soetoro is from Kenya” may be G-d’s way of telling us something we need to know? Sure looks like it could be so to me.

  116. Because one is not enough.

  117. Obama is on TV telling the American people that 7.1 million people signed up for the ACA.

    But, how many have actually paid a premium or are not subsidized??
    Where are those numbers. Psychobama??

    The plane, the plane!
    Ask Rolls Royce where the plane is and why are they remaining silent??

  118. ***And let me also add, that those few on here that state that Zullo only has one chance at this, I think that’s simply rhetoric that Zullo has planted in your heads***

    I agree on this; your assessment sounds logical.

  119. If that is the case then there would be a PUBLIC RECORD of the birth. We already looked at that. There is NO PUBLIC RECORD of such a birth having occurred during the 1961 year, in the state of Washington.

    What if she crossed the border in hopes of finding a black couple to adopt??
    Just one supposition surfacing.

  120. Good morning CW, et al

  121. Good Morning CW, William, et. al. Dean M. – Have you done any Bible Code stuff regarding Yellowstone, Helium 4 gas release, Blood Moons, Passover, Israel? Just curious. Have a great day!

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