Hospitals Opt Out of Obamacare, Watchdog.org study, Chances better with non Obamacare individual plans, Doctors and hospital names often not listed on exchanges

Hospitals Opt Out of Obamacare, Watchdog.org study, Chances better with non Obamacare individual plans, Doctors and hospital names often not listed on exchanges

“If you like your health care plan, you’ll be able to keep your health care plan.”…Barack Obama

“millions of Americans are getting or are about to get cancellation letters for their health insurance under Obamacare, say experts, and the Obama administration has known that for at least three years.”…NBC News October 29, 2013

“Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.”…George Orwell, “1984″

 

 

From US News October 30, 2013.

“Top Hospitals Opt Out of Obamacare”
“The Obama Administration has been claiming that insurance companies will be competing for your dollars under the Affordable Care Act, but apparently they haven’t surveyed the nation’s top hospitals.

Americans who sign up for Obamacare will be getting a big surprise if they expect to access premium health care that may have been previously covered under their personal policies. Most of the top hospitals will accept insurance from just one or two companies operating under Obamacare.

“This doesn’t surprise me,” said Gail Wilensky, Medicare advisor for the second Bush Administration and senior fellow for Project HOPE. “There has been an incredible amount of focus on the premium cost and subsidy, and precious little focus on what you get for your money.”

Regulations driven by the Obama White House have indeed made insurance more affordable – if, like Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius, you’re looking only at price. But responding to Obamacare caps on premiums, many insurers will, in turn, simply offer top-tier doctors and hospitals far less cash for services rendered.

Watchdog.org looked at the top 18 hospitals nationwide as ranked by U.S. News and World Report for 2013-2014. We contacted each hospital to determine their contracts and talked to several insurance companies, as well.

The result of our investigation: Many top hospitals are simply opting out of Obamacare.

Chances are the individual plan you purchased outside Obamacare would allow you to go to these facilities. For example, fourth-ranked Cleveland Clinic accepts dozens of insurance plans if you buy one on your own. But go through Obamacare and you have just one choice: Medical Mutual of Ohio.

And that’s not because their exchanges don’t offer options. Both Ohio and California have a dozen insurance companies on their exchanges, yet two of the states’ premier hospitals – Cleveland Clinic and Cedars-Sinai Medical Center – have only one company in their respective networks.”

“Though top-ranked hospitals like Case Medical Center accept plans from dozens of private insurers, if you buy your insurance on the Obamacare exchanges your options for treatment may be limited.

Wellpoint and Aetna’s decision to not educate the public on its choices doesn’t sit well with two experts.

“There is no reason to keep that quiet. It’s not going to be a good secret for very long when people want to use the plans,” Wilensky said.

“In many cases, consumers are shopping blind when it comes to what doctors and hospitals are included in their Obamacare exchange plans,” said Josh Archambault, senior fellow with the think tank Foundation for Government Accountability. “These patients will be in for a rude awakening once they need care, and get stuck with a big bill for going out-of-network without realizing it.”

All of this represents a larger problem with the Affordable Care Act, said Archambault, who has extensively studied the law.

“It reflects deeper issues in implementation,” he said. “Some hospitals and doctors don’t even know if they are in the network.””

Read more:

http://health.usnews.com/health-news/hospital-of-tomorrow/articles/2013/10/30/top-hospitals-opt-out-of-obamacare

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23 responses to “Hospitals Opt Out of Obamacare, Watchdog.org study, Chances better with non Obamacare individual plans, Doctors and hospital names often not listed on exchanges

  1. November 2, 2012

    “NatGeo Shocker: Prof Dershowitz NBC Fail; Ann Coulter Talks Birther Shut Down”

    “Ann Coulter: You know who brought up the Birther thing? Oh another reason I think he wasn’t picking Hillary. It was Hillary Clinton who first brought up, “Was he born in Kenya?” Who shot it down? My newspaper, Human Events, American Spectator. It was never talked about on Fox News. I discuss this in my three books back, Demonic. You heard about it every night on MSNBC, there may have been a few nuts out there. The conservative media shut it down. And point three, JFK’s father was a Nazi sympathizer. Nobody cares about what somebody’s father thinks.”

    “Professor Dershowitz is clearly clueless about constitutional eligibility. …

    This man teaches at Harvard! He then starts speaking some gibberish. Ann Coulter sucked it up and regurgitated her birther talking points ignoring the simple facts that most THIRD GRADERS are taught.”

    At >>> National Geographic Education website:

    “Grades 3-5
    Overview:
    The U.S. Constitution requires that the President be born in the United States….”

    http://www.birtherreport.com/2013/11/shocker-prof-alan-dershowitz-nbc-fail.html

    “Ann Coulter Brags Conservative Media Shut Down Birther Issue”

    Published on November 2, 2013

    “Alan Dershowitz: Foreign-Born Person Is Natural Citizen?”

    Published on November 2, 2013

  2. Murray Waas accuses The Huffington Post of fabricating “ObamaCare” stories

    http://illinoispaytoplay.com/2013/11/02/murray-waas-accuses-the-huffington-post-of-fabricating-obamacare-stories/

  3. A quote I came across today by Winston Churchill……..

    Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing had happened.

  4. What is really hilarious is that I came across this quote also…….

    It is a good thing for an uneducated man to read books of quotations.
    Winston Churchill

  5. I am uneducated. I only achieved 1 year of college. That is why I found this very funny. I guess you’d have to be me to get the joke.

  6. SueQ, et al.

    YC Not = E

    Years of college are not equal to education.

  7. Thanks CW,
    If you will indulge me one more quote…..

    C S Lewis
    Education without values, as useful as it is, seems rather to make man a more clever devil.

  8. Affordable Boat Act –

    The U.S. government has just passed a new law called: “The boat
    act” declaring that every citizen MUST purchase a new affordable boat, by April 2014.
    These “affordable” will cost an average of $54,000-$155,000 each.
    This does not include ta boats xes, trailers, towing fees, licensing and registration
    fees, fuel, docking and storage fees, maintenance or repair costs.
    This law has been passed, because until now, typically only wealthy and
    financially responsible people have been able to purchase boats. This new
    laws ensures that every American can now have a “affordable” boat of their
    own, because everyone is “entitled” to a new boat. If you purchase your
    boat before the end of the year, you will receive 4 “free” life jackets; not
    including monthly usage fees.
    In order to make sure everyone purchases an affordable boat, the costs of
    owning a boat will increase on average of 250-400% per year. This way,
    wealthy people will pay more for something that other people don’t want or
    can’t afford to maintain. But to be fair, people who can’t afford to maintain
    their boat will be regularly fined and children (under the age of 26) can
    use their parents boats to party on until they turn 27; then must purchase
    their own boat.

    If you already have a boat, you can keep yours (just kidding; no you
    can’t). If you don’t want or don’t need a boat, you are required to buy one
    anyhow. If you refuse to buy one or can’t afford one, you will be regularly fined
    $800 until you purchase one or face imprisonment.
    Failure to use the boat will also result in fines. People living in the
    desert; ghettos; inner cities or areas with no access to lakes are not
    exempt. Age, motion sickness, experience, knowledge nor lack of desire are
    acceptable excuses for not using your boat.
    A government review board (that doesn’t know the difference between the
    port, starboard or stern of a boat) will decide everything, including; when,
    where, how often and for what purposes you can use your boat along with
    how many people can ride your boat and determine if one is too old or healthy
    enough to be able to use their boat. They will also decide if your boat
    has out lived its usefulness or if you must purchase specific accessories,(like
    a $500 compass) or a newer and more expensive boat.
    Those that can afford yachts will be required to do so…it’s only fair.
    The government will also decide the name for each boat. Failure to comply with
    these rules will result in fines and possible imprisonment.
    Government officials are exempt from this new law. If they want a boat,
    they and their families can obtain boats free, at the expense of tax payers.
    Unions, bankers and mega companies with large political affiliations ($$$)
    are also exempt.
    If the government can force you to buy health care,
    they can force you to buy a boat …
    or ANYTHING else…
    (Like Michelle’s vacations?
    Ha – ha – ha !!)
    Yea…it’s that stupid…

  9. OBAMACARE IS ALL ABOUT CONTROLLING THE AMERICAN PEOPLE…IT’S GOT NOTHING TO DO WITH HEALTHCARE…

  10. Do I qualify for subsibies for this boat and it’s maintanence? I don’t make very much. 🙂 I don’t even want a boat.

  11. Bob @ 7:26,

    I asked Obama if I could just buy a canoe or a row boat. He said “no”. I have to buy a yacht.

  12. ………and NOW………the mass exodus of practicing doctors begins. In the latest AMA newsletter over 4000 practicing doctors have either closed their practices,or accepted positions at hospitals, which still closed their private practices. This 4000 across the entirety of the US might seem like a normal level of attrition,but in reality it is really scary because this was 4000 in less than a MONTH. As one endocrinologist said he can do just as well financially as an administrator,and not have the headaches of private practice.

  13. Bob Strauss……..
    Perhaps I was a bit hasty in getting rid of my own boat HAR HAR. The coming tsunami of WASHINGTON PRODUCED FECES will inundate all of us ……..maybe the reality is to “BUY A BOAT”, at least as such there is an element of survivability if you will.

  14. ………but we would end up floating around on the surface of a GIANT cesspool. Not sure if that would be healthy. HAR HAR.

  15. addendum………..get ready for the TSUNAMI from Washington DC. There will be ample warning…………the smell will preceed the tsunami and you will have plenty of time to “BUY A BOAT”. har har.

  16. ……since there willbe and even now we can smell the coming tsunami. There is still time to stop the tsunami from happening……are you going to just sit on your a$$ and let it happen, or are you going to unite and build a dike,big enough to reverse the flow of Washington FECES 180 degrees.

  17. ……….or are you so damn WEAK that you are willing to sit by and watch everything you worked your A$$ of to earn,be destroyed. If the latter is the case then you DESERVE IT.

  18. bye bye time to go back to sleep. Have a great day tomorrow everybody,and GODBLESS.

  19. off topic but interesting…….
    Do you suppose that Germany has had enough of NSA tapping of it’s leader’s private phone conversations. I read that there is a POTENTIAL now existing whereby Snowden might be given asylum in Germany. Sort of a SLAP in Soetoro’s stinking face. Go get em Msssssssss. MERKEL, SIC EM. BYE BYE

  20. CDR Kerchner (Ret)’s Blog:

    November 2, 2013

    “All U.S. Presidents Birth Locations & Eligibility: Grandfather Clause, Natural Born Citizen Clause, or Seated by Fraud”

    http://cdrkerchner.wordpress.com/2013/11/02/all-u-s-presidents-birth-locations-eligibility-grandfather-clause-natural-born-citizen-clause-or-seated-by-fraud/

  21. November 3, 2013

    Clarice Feldman:

    “The Silence of the Left”

    “NBC’s Lisa Myers broke the story, but both on air and in its published account NBC went to great lengths to bury her account of events that makes the president’s repeated pre-election promise that if you liked your insurance you’d be able to keep it an outrageous bald-faced lie.

    Here are the efforts NBC made to diminish that expose:

    On air, Myers’ report was cut to 21 seconds “buried at the end of the show’s fourth story, with no follow up on Today. ABC and CBS completely censored Lisa Myers’ discovery with not one single second of coverage on either their morning or evening programs.””

    http://www.americanthinker.com/2013/11/the_silence_of_the_left.html

  22. November 2, 2013

    Bradlee Dean:

    “Obama’s “Useful Idiots””

    ““If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic, and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”– Joseph Goebbels, Adolf Hitler’s propagandist

    Russian revolutionary and propagandist Vladimir Lenin said, “A good communist finds use for everything, and nothing is more useful than a useful idiot.”

    Today, on a daily basis, we see media propagandists fronting for this administration and special interests.”

    http://www.westernjournalism.com/obamas-useful-idiots/

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