NSA spies on Merkel, US Treasury criticizes German economy, Germany may grant asylum to Edward Snowden and seek testimony, Obama et al ruin US economy and continue to blame others

NSA spies on Merkel, US Treasury criticizes German economy, Germany may grant asylum to Edward Snowden and seek testimony, Obama et al ruin US economy and continue to blame others

“Over the last six months, of the net job creation, 97 percent of that is part-time work,”…Keith Hall, former BLS chief

“Between 2009 and 2012, the federal government recorded the largest budget deficits relative to the size of the economy since 1946, causing federal debt to soar. Federal debt held by the public is now about 73 percent of the economy’s annual output, or gross domestic product (GDP). That percentage is higher than at any point in U.S. history except a brief period around World War II, and it is twice the percentage at the end of 2007. “…CBO September 17, 2013

“So if Obama was hoping that all the late summer scandals that have taken his reputation to an all time low would at least push the NSA spying scandal away from the front page, he may need some additional fabricated and YouTube-validated false flag wars very soon.”…Zero Hedge October 31, 2013

 

 

Obama et al have ruined the US economy, are in the process of ruining our health care system with Obamacare and they continue to blame everyone else.

From Zero Hedge October 31, 2013.

“US Blasts Germany’s Economic Model; Germany Blasts Right Back… And May Use Snowden As Leverage”

“The chart below showing the portion of GDP generated through net exports by select group of trade surplus countries is well-known to most. Except, it seems, to the Treasury. Apparently to Jack Lew’s henchmen it comes as a complete shock that
Germany’s exports account for 41.4% of GDP – 50% more than traditionally
evil “mercantilist” China.

It is also a complete shock to the US Treasury that the current layout of the Eurozone – the same Eurozone that the Fed has stepped in on numerous occasions to bailout, common currency and all – was simply to facilitate German exports to fellow European countries.

Which is probably why, after years of saying nothing, in its semi-annual currency report released yesterday and “employing unusually sharp language, the U.S. openly criticized Germany’s economic policies and blamed the euro-zone powerhouse for dragging down its neighbors and the rest of the global economy.”

You see it was all Germany’s fault.”
Why the US would scramble to antagonize a Germany which as recently as a week ago was shocked to find out the NSA was spying on its beloved Angela Merkel is a mystery but apparently now that the fiction that Europe is “fine” and nobody can criticize it has ended and is no longer necessary because Spain is, in its own words, recovering, it is fair game to throw Germany and all other nations that dare to export better and more competitive goods and services than the US. under the bus. Because, you see, unless every “ally” of the US has the same “growth” model of internal consumption funded by titanic amounts of debt, be it household, corporate of sovereign, and is in the same insolvent boat at the end of the day as the US, they deserve to be spat upon.

“”The U.S. government should critically analyze its own economic situation,” said Michael Meister, a senior lawmaker and close ally of Chancellor Angela Merkel, criticizing the high debt level in the U.S., which “doesn’t just unsettle [the U.S.], but has negative effects on the global economy.”

“The German economy is competitive, with record-high employment—so it’s really not understandable why we’re being blamed for this success,” Mr. Meister added.”

Read more:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-10-31/us-blasts-germanys-economic-model-germany-blasts-right-back-and-may-use-snowden-leve

 

 

 

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53 responses to “NSA spies on Merkel, US Treasury criticizes German economy, Germany may grant asylum to Edward Snowden and seek testimony, Obama et al ruin US economy and continue to blame others

  1. “Rudy Davis of Dallas TX to Speak on Obama Ineligibility on WBTM TV Tonight at 7 P.M (Central Time) – 8 P.M. ET. Event Hosted by the LoneStarTeaparty.us”

    http://cdrkerchner.wordpress.com/2013/10/31/rudy-davis-of-tx-to-speak-on-obama-ineligibility-on-wbtm-tv-tonight-at-7-p-m/

  2. “The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services said it had added dozens of technology experts and engineers to its round-the-clock effort to fix the technical glitches on the site that is key to the implementation of President Barack Obama’s healthcare restructuring law.”

    “But some observers are skeptical. Howard Anderson, a lecturer at MIT’s Sloan School of Management, said that he does not believe that bringing in a large number of experts will necessarily solve the problem.

    “What I am seeing is the equivalent of a man-overboard drill. It is the equivalent of having an infinite number of monkeys on an infinite number of code-making machines,” said Anderson, who advises executives at Fortune 500 corporations on information technology strategy.

    “They have made some interesting promises about how this thing is going to get fixed, but they actually really don’t know,” he said.”

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/10/31/us-usa-healthcare-surge-idUSBRE99U16R20131031

    Remember my comment from Oct 22?

    In the 70’s I had the privilege of hearing a presentation by
    Frederick Brooks, who was involved in the IBM OS/360 project. Mr. Brooks had written a book, “The Mythical Man Month” about project management.

    From the book:

    “when schedule slippage is recognized, the natural (and traditional) response is to add manpower. Like dousing a fire with gasoline, this makes matters worse, much worse. More fire requires more gasoline, and thus begins a regenerative cycle which “ends in disaster.”

    “The’Man-Month

    The second fallacious thought mode is expressed in the very unit of effort used in estimating and scheduling: the man-month. Cost does indeed vary as the product of the number of men and the number of months. Progress does not. Hence the man-month as a unit for measuring the size of a job is a dangerous and deceptive myth. It implies that men and months are interchangeable.

    Men and months are interchangeable commodities only when a task can be partitioned among manyworkers with no communication among them (Fig. 2.1). This is true of reaping wheat or picking cotton; it is not even approximately true of systems programming.”

  3. citizenwells at 7:20 am —

    “Rudy Davis of Dallas TX to Speak on Obama Ineligibility …”
    ===============
    Heisenberg Report with Rudy Davis

    At YouTube: “An in depth look with expert Rudy Davis at Barack Obama’s eligibility to be president.”

    Published on October 31, 2013

  4. October 31, 2013

    Diana West:

    “What if Obamacare was never about our health?
    Diana West sees evidence program actually is giant ‘voter registration fraud scheme'”

    “Could Obamacare be the biggest voter registration fraud scheme in the history of the world?

    This is the bombshell assessment of a pair of conservative activists: Gregg Phillips, founder of Voters Trust, and Catherine Engelbrecht of True the Vote. Both groups are conservative nonprofits focused on election integrity.

    “Presto – 68 million voters, registered with the help of Obamacare “navigators.” Wanna bet whether these new voters will trend Democrat or Republican?

    Of course, “presto” doesn’t literally describe the pace of this massive voter registration project, but just give it time. This is the finding, not of conservatives Phillips and Engelbrecht, but of a report by Demos, a left-wing organization funded by George Soros. The report’s title says it all: “Building a Healthy Democracy: Registering 68 Million People to Vote through Health Benefit Exchanges.”””

    http://www.wnd.com/2013/10/what-if-obamacare-was-never-about-our-health/

  5. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    CW – I have marked down to listen to Rudy Davis tonight. I loved his closing line from the video -“May He bring Divine Justice to the wicked bastards who are destroying this country.”

  6. More corruption and weakening of our military:

    Pentagon training manual: white males have unfair advantages

    http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/10/31/pentagon-training-manual-white-males-have-unfair-advantages/

    A controversial 600-plus page manual used by the military to train its Equal Opportunity officers teaches that “healthy, white, heterosexual, Christian” men hold an unfair advantage over other races, and warns in great detail about a so-called “White Male Club.”

    “Simply put, a healthy, white, heterosexual, Christian male receives many unearned advantages of social privilege, whereas a black, homosexual, atheist female in poor health receives many unearned disadvantages of social privilege,” reads a statement in the manual created by the Defense Equal Opportunity Management Institute (DEOMI).

    …….I obtained a copy of the manual from an Equal Opportunity officer who was disturbed by the course content and furious over the DEOMI’s reliance on the Southern Poverty Law Center for information on “extremist” groups.

    “I’m participating in teaching things that are not true,” the instructor told me. He asked not to be identified because he feared reprisals.

    “I should not be in a position to do that,” he said. “It violates Constitutional principles, but it also violates my conscience. And I’m not going to do it – not going to do it.”

    DEOMI instructors were also responsible for briefings at bases around the country that falsely labeled evangelical Christians, Catholics and a number of high-profile Christian ministries as domestic hate groups.

  7. Another wussifying and demoralizing nutcase put in charge:

    Defense Secretary Hagel calls out 9 states for refusing to issue military IDs to same-sex spouses

    and the states are the ones accused of causing “division among the ranks”??!!

    Hagel said he has directed the chief of the National Guard Bureau, Gen. Frank Grass, to “take immediate action to remedy this situation,” and to “meet with the Adjutants General from the states where these ID cards are being denied.”

    Texas this summer announced a “potential conflict” between state law, which does not allow same-sex marriage and the U.S. Department of Defense policy. The Defense Department is now abiding by a Supreme Court ruling that struck down the Defense of Marriage Act that banned federal recognition of gay marriages.

    Texas, meanwhile, said the state would not issue ID cards to same-sex spouses at National Guard facilities, saying those identity cards can only be obtained at federal facilities in the state.

    Since Texas’ decision, eight other states have made similar decisions: Indiana, Georgia, Florida, Mississippi, Louisiana, Oklahoma, South Carolina and West Virginia.

    A senior defense official told NBC News that across those states there are “114 Army and Air National Guard sites that are not providing ID cards to eligible same-sex spouses.”

    http://www.trunews.com/defense-secretary-hagel-calls-9-states-refusing-issue-military-ids-sex-spouses/

  8. Thanks Observer.
    The Pentagon manual/training are of high interest to me.

  9. Top generals: Obama is ‘purging the military’
    Describe president’s actions as ’emasculating,’ ranks now lack ‘will to win’

    (linked at Drudge)

    WASHINGTON – Retired Army Maj. Gen. Patrick Brady, recipient of the U.S. military’s highest decoration, the Medal of Honor, as well as other top retired officers, say President Obama’s agenda is decimating the morale of the U.S. ranks to the point members no longer feel prepared to fight or have the desire to win.

    “There is no doubt he (Obama) is intent on emasculating the military and will fire anyone who disagrees with him” over such issues as “homosexuals, women in foxholes, the Obama sequester,” Brady told WND.

    “They are purging everyone, and if you want to keep your job, just keep your mouth shut,” one source told WND.

    Not only are military service members being demoralized and the ranks’ overall readiness being reduced by the Obama administration’s purge of key leaders, colonels – those lined up in rank to replace outgoing generals – are quietly taking their careers in other directions.

    Retired Army Lt. Gen. William G. “Jerry” Boykin, who was with Delta Force and later Deputy Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence under President George W. Bush, says it is worrying that four-star generals are being retired at the rate that has occurred under Obama.

    “Over the past three years, it is unprecedented for the number of four-star generals to be relieved of duty, and not necessarily relieved for cause,” Boykin said.

    “I believe there is a purging of the military,” he said. “The problem is worse than we have ever seen.”

    Boykin points out that the military adheres to the constitutional requirement of a civilian leadership over the military. As a consequence, officers are not allowed to criticize their civilian leadership, as occurred when Gen. Stanley A. McChrystal was relieved in 2010 of his command of the International Security Assistance Force and commander of U.S. Forces in Afghanistan.

    Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2013/10/top-generals-obama-is-purging-the-military/#4BZbCB77mArqkOi6.99

    Anyone want Obama types having your back??

  10. “Final US Manufacturing PMI Prints At Lowest In One Year, Makes Mockery Of Chicago “Data””

    “If anyone needed confirmation that yesterday’s soaring Chicago PMI data (to the highest since March 2011) was a typical “Made In Chicago” fabrication, then look no further than today’s final MarkIt US Manufacturing PMI, which instead of soaring as its Chicago counterpart, tumbled from 52.8 to 51.8, the lowest print since October of 2012 as the report indicated “only modest improvement in business conditions”, “output growth weakest for over four years”, and “new orders increasing at the slowest pace since April.””

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-11-01/final-us-manufacturing-pmi-prints-lowest-one-year-makes-mockery-chicago-data

  11. A lot more will lose healthcare of choice….that “they” knew of….in their “grand plan”:

    Obama Officials In 2010: 93 Million Americans Will Be Unable To Keep Their Health Plans Under Obamacare

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2013/10/31/obama-officials-in-2010-93-million-americans-will-be-unable-to-keep-their-health-plans-under-obamacare/

  12. Bombshell Report: Obama Impeachment Hearing Scheduled For January

    (Oct. 31, 2013) — Presidential candidate Cody Robert Judy is reporting that a hearing in the House Judiciary Committee to consider Articles of Impeachment against Barack Hussein Obama has been scheduled for sometime in January 2014 at which Judy will be providing testimony.

    http://www.birtherreport.com/2013/10/bombshell-report-obama-impeachment.html

  13. (CNSNews.com) – The Department of Justice, on behalf of the National Security Agency (NSA) and the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), has threatened to criminally prosecute a novelty store owner for selling mugs and t-shirts that say, among other things, “Department of Homeland Stupidity” and “The NSA: The only part of government that actually listens.”

    – See more at: http://cnsnews.com/news/article/ali-meyer-and-michael-w-chapman/feds-threaten-prosecute-merchant-selling-department#sthash.njPnHFYr.dpuf

  14. What a bunch of morons! (USDOJ)
    I hope that Zazzle.com’s sales skyrocket.

  15. Obama Continues to Purge Military of Top Generals

    Barack Obama is relieving four-star generals from the military at an unprecedented pace. This year alone, nine senior commanding generals have been fired by the administration.

    Retired generals and current commanders who have spoken to TheBlaze believe that political ideology is the primary impetus behind the effort.
    World Net Daily reported:

    Retired Army Maj. Gen. Patrick Brady, recipient of the U.S. military’s highest decoration, the Medal of Honor, as well as other top retired officers, say President Obama’s agenda is decimating the morale of the U.S. ranks to the point members no longer feel prepared to fight or have the desire to win.

    “There is no doubt he (Obama) is intent on emasculating the military and will fire anyone who disagrees with him” over such issues as “homosexuals, women in foxholes, the Obama sequester,” Brady told WND.

    “They are purging everyone, and if you want to keep your job, just keep your mouth shut,” one source told WND.

    Not only are military service members being demoralized and the ranks’ overall readiness being reduced by the Obama administration’s purge of key leaders, colonels – those lined up in rank to replace outgoing generals – are quietly taking their careers in other directions.

    Retired Army Lt. Gen. William G. “Jerry” Boykin, who was with Delta Force and later Deputy Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence under President George W. Bush, says it is worrying that four-star generals are being retired at the rate that has occurred under Obama.

    “Over the past three years, it is unprecedented for the number of four-star generals to be relieved of duty, and not necessarily relieved for cause,” Boykin said.

    “I believe there is a purging of the military,” he said. “The problem is worse than we have ever seen.”

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/11/obama-continues-purge-of-militarys-top-generals/

  16. Thornton Parsons

    LAX: sounds like a training exercise to take Obamascare #s off the front page.

  17. Here we go with more crony capitalism! But we can’t be surprised when we learn more and more about Chicago cronyism, thanks to CW’s reporting. This is on the grand state of the U.S. government and is infinitely worse.

    Obama donor’s firm hired to fix Web mess it created

    Anthony Welters, a top campaign bundler for Obama and frequent White House guest, is the executive vice president of UnitedHealth Group, which owns the software company now at the center of the ObamaCare Web-site fiasco.

    http://nypost.com/2013/11/01/obama-donors-firm-hired-to-fix-web-mess-it-helped-make/

  18. Oops – “state” should be “scale” or “stage”.

  19. The man is utterly deranged!

    President Obama issued an executive order Friday directing a government-wide effort to boost preparation in states and local communities for the impact of global warming.

    Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/nov/1/obama-orders-government-prep-global-warming/#ixzz2jQ8MSOgR

  20. cabbyaz — I agree, the man is “deranged.” He is deranged by Leftist ideology combined with Shia Islam. When the Iranian Revolution took place, they went by a blueprint drawn up by an Iraqi Shiite cleric who was later murdered by Saddam Hussein. His name was Muhammed Baqir al-Sadr, if I recall correctly. I’ve read some of his stuff online. One of the key points of his combining Marxism with Shia Islam was “the redistribution of wealth.

    If there is not a closer biological connection to Malcolm X, in his book, DREAMS FROM MY FATHER, Obama looks to Malcolm X as a spiritual model. Though Malcolm X went from the Nation of Islam to Sunni Islam after his trip to Mecca, according to a later biographer he was inspired by Shia Islam just before his death. Iran was the first country to honor Malcolm X with a postage stamp.

    All the people around Obama have Iran connections. Biden has close ties to the Iranian lobby and has received lots of financial backing from that lobby. He goes to their fundraisers and other events. Valerie Jarrett was born in Iran and spent her formative years there. She is featured at one Iranian website as “Iranian of the Day.” Hagel voted against sanctions against Iran when in the Senate. Kerry has an Iranian son-in-law. ( As for CIA director Brennan, maybe not an Iranian connection, but it is thought he may be a convert to Islam. What version?)

    This is just what is obvious and open for everyone to see. What about what we don’t see?

    The global warming hoax is to further undo the West, especially the US. This appeals to Obama’s Leftist base.

  21. Being reported, off-duty TSA agent goes postal at LAX airport. http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/11/01/Report-2-shot-LAX

  22. Philo-Publius

    Navy SEALs ordered to remove ‘don’t tread on me’ Navy Jack from uniforms
    http://dailycaller.com/2013/11/01/navy-seals-ordered-to-remove-dont-tread-on-me-navy-jack-from-uniforms/

  23. Let’s all start wearing these Navy Seal Patches.

  24. Thornton Parsons | November 1, 2013 at 6:56 pm

    Hi Thornton,

    First of all, thank you (and everyone here at CW) for your good wishes; they mean a lot!

    There was also an ’emergency response excercise’ at Logan Airport in Boston on the day of the Marathon (and the bombings) this year and now, one at LAX.

    Odd timing for both exercises, no?

  25. The Daily Caller is reporting…….

    AP editors: Obama relies on staged propaganda photos

    Editors of The Associated Press condemned the White House’s refusal to give photojournalists real access to President Obama, who prefers to circulate press release-style pictures taken by his own paid photographers.

    These official photographs are little more than propaganda, according to AP director of photography Santiago Lyon.
    The AP has only been permitted to photograph the president alone in the Oval Office on two occasions–both in his first term–and has never been allowed to photograph the president with his staff in the office. The AP generally receives access when foreign leaders are visiting, but at other times the White House relies on its own photographers to take pictures and distribute them to the press.

    Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/11
    # # # # #

    Gee, do ya think maybe the White House is banning the Associated Press from taking photos because they’re carrying a grudge for the AP publishing this photo of Obama’s, …um, Soetoro’s Indonesian school registration five years ago?

    http://www.hyscience.com/archi

  26. Jonah, the photo was scrubbed.

  27. Jonah at 7:54 pm —

    “… Obama, who prefers to circulate press release-style pictures taken by his own paid photographers.”

    “The AP has only been permitted to photograph the president alone in the Oval Office on two occasions–both in his first term …”
    ******
    Maybe THEY need to control what is seen by the public. Could be more than two.
    ==============
    January 27, 2011

    Bridgette:

    “Here a Scar, There a Scar, Everywhere a New Scar!
    Or Does Obama Have a Twin? A Double?”

    http://wtpotus.wordpress.com/2011/01/27/obamas-movable-features-his-newest-scar-open-thread/
    ++++++++++++++
    February 26, 2012

    Bridgette:

    “How Many Barack Obamas are There?”

    “Note the differences in the shape of the ear, the size of the ear lobe and the ear canal. These are two photos of BHO. The scar is also missing on BHO #1, but it is on BHO #2.”

    http://wtpotus.wordpress.com/2012/02/26/can-he-hear-us-now-open-thread/

  28. August 14, 2008

    “AP Photo Of Barack Obama’s School Registration In Indonesia As Barry Soetoro And As Indonesian Citizen”

    http://www.hyscience.com/archives/2008/08/ap_photo_of_bar_1.php

    Photo:

  29. Thanks Gordo.

  30. Thornton Parsons

    SueK, no coincidence here. Sandy Hook, the London Subway bombing, the San Diego shooting, etc. I just wonder why no one in the media wants to cover this. I tweeted about it this morning and someone sent me the mail.uk article. So, evidently, I’m not the only one who doesn’t take this incident at face value. Stay on the mend!

  31. I am still crying. Please, God destroy the evil ones who are killing our Service men and women. I am talking about the EVIL ones in ‘Our House’ in Washington, DC Bring them all home ALIVE!

    http://travel.yahoo.com/ideas/fallen-soldier-213011521.html

  32. Thornton Parsons | November 1, 2013 at 9:20 pm |

    I somehow think that the media wants to cover this after all, it’s what they do, Thornton. I believe they table their coverage of these events due to threats, intimidation and good old moolah; they’ve been bought. This is what this ‘administration’ does: Speak out against them and your life and/or career is in jeopardy. The people at the top are paid off; word trickles down to the rank and file reporters: Step out of line and the intimidation starts. And no one wants to be called a racist, either.

    I recall that in 2009, even our own local conservative talkers were silenced. When a caller would mention the birth certificate, one host said ‘Ah, no, I don’t wanna talk about that,’ and hung up. It’s happening at all levels of the media.

    Then, of course, there are the diversions; we see them almost weekly. When something gets a little too hot, you can count on some sort of a diversion to deflect attention away from it. The IRS scandal, the NSA, Benghazi, Fast and Furious; how many times has something ‘popped up’ to draw our attention away from these scandals?

    It’s the Chicago way.

    Mending slowly; thank you :).

  33. Thornton Parsons

    You know what they say, “The ends justify the means.” I hope that America is not now the country that used to . . .

  34. Stockman seeks special prosecutors for Obama
    Delivers book outlining ‘Impeachable Offenses’ to House members

    Congress needs to assign special prosecutors to investigate Obama administration misbehavior, charges a congressman who has distributed to members of the U.S. House copies of the book “Impeachable Offenses: The Case for Removing Barack Obama from Office.”

    “From Benghazi to Fast and Furious to crony deals for ‘green’ energy to Obamacare the lawless Obama administration must be reined in. I am calling on Congress to establishment Select Committees on these scandals with full subpoena power,” said Rep. Steve Stockman, R-Texas, in a statement Thursday.

    “We’ve seen how the Obama administration smears and defames their critics. Congress should investigate these scandals and turn the matters over to special prosecutors,” he said. (See video)

    Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2013/10/rep-stockman-seeks-special-prosecutors-for-obama/#I7zBTEZlV1WmtyhR.99

  35. SueK, Good to know you’re recuperating. The Red Sox winning probably helped. Congratulations!

  36. Thanks, Jonah!

    Unfortunately, I was in La-La land on Wednesday but was able to catch some of the game.

    Congrats to the Cards, too; they gave the Sox a run for their money and it was an excellent series. I know Saint Louis is proud of their great team! :).

  37. Good morning CW et. al,

    While driving home last night, I was listening to Fox news and that once again Moron Juan with his wildly idiotic comments. This time it was the debate on “The 5” when comments were made that the Government cannot do anything better than the private sector. Juan jumped in and claimed with disagreement; “What about the Military”…

    I hate to burst Juan’s bubble, but someone on “The 5” should have informed Juan that the Military doesn’t build anything, the Private sector builds for the Military paid for by taxpayer dollars!

    Northrop Grumman for example, built the Stealth Bomber, not the Government. Last time I checked, Northrop Grumman was not the Government. In fact, it takes Northrop approximately 1.2 Billion dollars to build one.

    Could you imagine if the Government was in charge of building the Stealth Bomber for 1.2 billion in 3 years? First, it would have ran over budget and would have cost taxpayers about 100 Billion dollars and 15 years later, it still wouldn’t fly and they would be reporting to Congress that they need more money to “work the bugs” out of it.

    Same as weapons. Private sector, not government.

  38. It is now clear that Soetoro now thinks he is a dictator. The boil that has been festering on America’s skin is now fast coming to a head. It will need to be lanced,because if it is left to explode it will end America as we knew it. I personally think that the manner in which the roll out was executed seems to say that it was,and is expected to fail ,and at that point Soetoro and his mentally twisted GOONS will swoop in and install a singlepayer sort of healthcare plan. For those who think that single payer healthcare is so great,why the hell do people from Canada keep coming to the US for their healthcare/

  39. Good morning OldSailor,

    I have a question for you my friend, it’s just a thought for now and you are certainly in a better educated position to answer this that myself.

    Pertaining to Obamacare, we know due to the CBO report, that in order to “help’ fund Obamacare, nearly 750 Billion dollars of Medicare would be cut from the program over a 10 year period. This program is designed to help with the elderly. We also know that about 95% of those signing up for Obamacare, are being redirected to Medicare. In essence, the program was already unsustainable with current enrollment, and with the cuts and mass flood of new enrollments, it’s certainly going to collapse quickly. Approximately 44 million people in this program now.

    On the other side of the coin you have Medicaid, which it serves for those below a certain proverty line regardless of age. No cuts from Obamacare to this program.

    However, I am wondering if Obamacare is actually working to serve it’s true hidden purpose better than most are thinking? In otherwords, they know full well most will not sign up for Obamacare, its high cost ect., will fail. But they can and are driving most everyone into Medicare knowing that defunding it, it cannot sustain itself and will quickly fail. This gives them the opportunity to then force everyone into Medicaid, and bundle this package into a 1-payer system, which is what they actually want in the first place. But they knew they couldn’t do it publically and outright openly. So the backdoor approach was necessary. About 40 million are on Medicaid. Combined them, and you now have 1/3 (84 million plus) of the population on a 1-payer system that will be supported through taxes of working people.

    Its just a morning thought,

  40. Additionally,

    If they really wanted to force “Young” people into Obamacare, they would have made the tax penalty around $2,500, not $95 dollars. They gave them an escape route, intentionally.

  41. Oh,

    OldSailor, I forgot to add to my thought here. Both Medicare and Medicaid Budgets are controlled by the DHHS, and how they allocate funds to each of these programs is at their discretion in a sense.

  42. Good morning Old Sailor, William and all,
    Remember Obama’s cronies remark, “Never let a crisis go to waste?” (Yikes, isn’t that a ghastly thing to say, when you think of it?)

    Well, from what we are hearing about this health care debacle – and I mean more than the computer problems – the perfect storm is developing and the noose is tightening. We are seeing only the tip of the iceberg now. Just wait until folks start losing their employer plans. I’ve heard that as many as 93 million could be without health insurance, and the plans being offered on the exchanges are way too expensive, notwithstanding promised rebates. There are much higher deductibles. Also, doctors and hospitals are opting out at an alarming rate. They are doing a great job in dismantling the greatest health care system in the world. But then isn’t that the goal in the first place?

    What does O and company have up their sleeves? Desperate people do desperate things. Oh, I hope I’m wrong, but it is entirely possible that the turmoil of an upcoming revolt could force him to engage a false flag event and give him the excuse for martial law. He already has taken unto himself all of the power to control transportation, food, power, etc., whenever he deems it to be needed.

    There is a glimmer of hope, however. He may have set in motion too many destructive operations at once – purging and destroying our military, scandals galore for which he takes no responsibility, destruction of healthcare, heavy push for that crazy global warming, etc., etc. In which case the sleeping, low-information masses may awaken in time to take action.

  43. Oh, the logic of the progressive mind! When confronted with the false promises made by Obama (“you can keep your healthcare plan”), these Democrat talking heads are now parroting that it wasn’t a lie but rather that he should have been more specific. They swear up and down that it was NOT a lie and that he did not intend to deceive. Well, we are all aware now that he did know that he was spewing out falsehoods.

    The liberal logic is just this absurd: Let’s say that a school teacher announces to the class that all have passed a test – period – and says nothing more. Later when the students get the test results back and find out that some have failed, the liberals would rush to the defense of the teacher and say, “Well, she didn’t lie or deceive. She just failed to qualify her statement by adding ‘if you get a grade above 70’ ”

    How far will they go to support this impostor?

  44. Hi, William (6:26 am),
    You make a very good point about the Medicaid program being used as a conduit to shift to a single-payer plan. I believe that the 95% figure represents folks signing up for Medicaid, not Medicare, but that does change the strength of your point. In fact, it reinforces it.

    I can hardly stand to hear Juan Williams anymore. Not that it ever was easy, but now that his leader is being exposed for what he is, people like Juan are REALLY losing it. Their ignorance is on full display these days.

  45. Hi Ya Cabby, and Good morning Darling,

    I did get the two arse backwords did I… LOL…

    Not enough coffee at that time… 🙂

  46. Cabby,

    Just to add to the reasoning behind my morning thought process here, is that the real intent behind Obamacare, is to drive the elderly and those at the proverty line into one bundled program, by intentionally collapsing one through flooding. This is a huge significant chunk of the Democrat voting base.

    Add that to the new taxpayer money that Janet Napolitano giving to illegal citizens for college, we may have the perfect storm and the true reasoning behind Obamacare. It was never made to be successful, it was intentionally designed to fail, and place blame everywhere else.

    This hits Every Key Voting base for benefits with the Liberal Democrats. By design.

  47. Just to add,

    If I really wanted and needed the “Youth’ to pay at least $2,500 dollars a year in order to make something work, why would I only charge them $95 dollars to opt out?

    That makes no logical Mathematical sense. And I am coming to believe that is by design.

  48. Here is another added thought to this,

    If the government sets out rules and options for me in taxes, and says William, you have 2 choices:

    1) you can pay $12,000 in total taxes this year, or
    2) you can donate a tax portion of you income in a penalty of $100 dollars.

    What am I going to do? There is a reason behind this.

  49. Good morning William, et al.

  50. William,
    I believe you are spot on, as they say. In fact, if a single-payer plan ever becomes a reality (God forbid), why would “they” want to set up something completely different as the vehicle? After all, the Medicaid program is already set up and running. All that would be needed is just an expansion, which big government just loves.

    With all of the recently added new enrollment in Medicaid, it is going to go bust unless more federal funds are channeled in anyway. So, just another step to make it easier for the big leap. Don’t forget, too, that as more and more lose their jobs, more will automatically qualify for Medicaid.

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