Edward Snowden backup plan, June 26, 2013, Files are out there if anything happens to him, Encoded copies of documents, Guardian journalist Glenn Greenwald

Edward Snowden backup plan, June 26, 2013, Files are out there if anything happens to him, Encoded copies of documents, Guardian journalist Glenn Greenwald

“If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without bloodshed,
If you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly,
You may come to the moment when you will have to fight
with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival.”…Winston Churchill

“A Party member lives from birth to death under the eye of the Thought Police. Even when he is alone he can never be sure that he is alone. Wherever he may be, asleep or awake, working or resting, in his bath or in bed, he can be inspected without warning and without knowing that he is being inspected. Nothing that he does is indifferent. His friendships, his relaxations, his behaviour towards his wife and children, the expression of his face when he is alone, the words he mutters in sleep, even the characteristic movements of his body, are all jealously scrutinized. Not only any actual misdemeanour, but any eccentricity, however small, any change of habits, any nervous mannerism that could possibly be the symptom of an inner struggle, is certain to be detected. He has no freedom of choice in any direction whatever. On the other hand his actions are not regulated by law or by any clearly formulated code of behaviour. In Oceania there is no law. Thoughts and actions which, when detected, mean certain death are not formally forbidden, and the endless purges, arrests, tortures, imprisonments, and vaporizations are not inflicted as punishment for crimes which have actually been committed, but are merely the wiping-out of persons who might perhaps commit a crime at some time in the future.”…George Orwell, “1984”

 

From The Daily Beast June 25, 2013.

“Greenwald: Snowden’s Files Are Out There if ‘Anything Happens’ to Him”

“Snowden has shared encoded copies of all the documents he took so that they won’t disappear if he does, Glenn Greenwald tells Eli Lake.”

“As the U.S. government presses Moscow to extradite former National Security Agency contractor Edward Snowden, America’s most wanted leaker has a plan B. The former NSA systems administrator has already given encoded files containing an archive of the secrets he lifted from his old employer to several people. If anything happens to Snowden, the files will be unlocked.

Glenn Greenwald, the Guardian journalist who Snowden first contacted in February, told The Daily Beast on Tuesday that Snowden “has taken extreme precautions to make sure many different people around the world have these archives to insure the stories will inevitably be published.” Greenwald added that the people in possession of these files “cannot access them yet because they are highly encrypted and they do not have the passwords.” But, Greenwald said, “if anything happens at all to Edward Snowden, he told me he has arranged for them to get access to the full archives.”

The fact that Snowden has made digital copies of the documents he accessed while working at the NSA poses a new challenge to the U.S. intelligence community that has scrambled in recent days to recover them and assess the full damage of the breach. Even if U.S. authorities catch up with Snowden and the four classified laptops the Guardian reported he brought with him to Hong Kong the secrets Snowden hopes to expose will still likely be published.

A former U.S. counterintelligence officer following the Snowden saga closely said his contacts inside the U.S. intelligence community “think Snowden has been planning this for years and has stashed files all over the Internet.” This source added, “At this point there is very little anyone can do about this.”

The arrangement to entrust encrypted archives of his files with others also sheds light on a cryptic statement Snowden made on June 17 during a live chat with The Guardian. In the online session he said, “All I can say right now is the U.S. government is not going to be able to cover this up by jailing or murdering me. Truth is coming, and it cannot be stopped.””

Read more:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/06/25/greenwald-snowden-s-files-are-out-there-if-anything-happens-to-him.html

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73 responses to “Edward Snowden backup plan, June 26, 2013, Files are out there if anything happens to him, Encoded copies of documents, Guardian journalist Glenn Greenwald

  1. Is this a harbinger or what? Nothing like blatantly inviting the evil one into your very sanctuaries.

    WASHINGTON (CBSDC/AP) — The National Cathedral is pealing its church bells, along with some other Washington churches, to celebrate the Supreme Court’s decisions on gay marriage.

    Cathedral spokesman Richard Weinberg said the bells rang at noon Wednesday for 45 minutes to an hour. Bells also rang at other Episcopal, Methodist, Presbyterian, Unitarian and other Christian churches.

    The cathedral scheduled a prayer service for gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender families Wednesday at 7 p.m. to celebrate the ruling.

    In a statement, the cathedral’s dean, the Rev. Gary Hall, says the church is ringing its bells “to celebrate the extension of federal marriage equality to all the same-sex couples modeling God’s love in lifelong covenants.”

    Hall says the ruling should serve as a call for Christians to embrace religious marriage equality.

    Ah yes….that Smoke of Satan entering the church that Paul VI spoke of decades ago.

    Well, God is not mocked….esp. when it comes to marriage, family…..life!

    http://washington.cbslocal.com/2013/06/26/national-cathedral-rings-bells-to-cheer-gay-marriage/

  2. Interested Bystander

    Hey All,

    Just exactly did Snowden release???

    Was he the one who released information about the CIA and cell phone records?

    Not sure why anyone would be surprised by that, or how much of a “secret” the Government thought it was.

    The Patriot Act gives the Government the authority to do whatever they deem necessary to “protect” us.

    I’m just not sure why this Snowden guy is so important.

  3. Interested Bystander

    The first line should have been

    What exactly……………

    or

    Just exactly what…….

    either works.

    sorry

  4. Interested Bystander

    Hey All,

    You do realize that it is quite legal for our very Government to “detain” an American citizen INDEFINATELY because he/she is SUSPECTED to be up to something?

    AND

    It sure does seem like nothing is being done about the use of drones to kill Amrican citizens without due process.

    But yet “we” are disgusted that our Government keeps records of our cell phone “pings”?

  5. Interested Bystander

    Hey All,

    The ruling by the SCOTUS today is more proof to me that the Constitution means nothing.

    The Supreme Court struck down the law in California that claimed that a marriage is between a man and a woman.

    A vote was taken and the people of California voted to enact the law, but the SC today nullified the vote.

    The 10th Amendment to the US Constitution was repealed today.

    Although the trend was set long ago, this is as Pink Floyd would say is

    “Just another brick in the wall”.

    We are doomed.

  6. Interested Bystander

    Although I comment often that you will never be able to legislate morality, today the SCOTUS voted to make IMmoral behavior legal.

    I believe the Government never should have gotten in to the marriage business in the first place. And I’m not sure what benefits my wife and I get for being married, I know it used to be married filing jointly paid a slightly lower rate, but I think that isn’t the case any longer.

    What else is there?

    My gripe is with people who have kids.

    My wife and I CHOSE not to have kids (we’ve been married 30 years by the way), but yet we have to pay taxes so that OTHER people’s kids can go to school.

    And in reality SINGLE parents get more breaks than anyone. With food assistance, shelter assistance, medical assistance, utility assistance, child care assistance, education assistance and then, if the parent actually works, he/she gets to claim head of household, which is ANOTHER “break”.

  7. Interested Bystander

    My whole point is that there is no place for our Federal Government in our RELATIONSHIPS.

    We are headed for the same fate as the Roman Empire.

    In most States, there’s nothing stopping two people of the same sex from going to a lawyer and having papers drawn up that allows for ANYTHING they wish.

    There should be no law to stop this OR allow this. And when I comment “law”, I mean FEDERAL Law.

    The 10th Amendment allows STATES to legislate things not covered by the Constitution.

    Let the people of the “several STATES” decide what they want in their respective STATES.

  8. Observer — Obviously this movement to undermine marriage and family has been going on for a long time. What is being done in the mainline Protestant churches is also celebrated in the non-Orthodox Jewish synagogues–Reform, Reconstructionist and Conservative .

    This is a social deviation. The Orthodox Jewish teaching is social deviation brings divine wrath and judgment more than idividual sins.

  9. Unless there is now a strong moral outrage and protest, a Yom Din–a Day of Judgment–is coming upon our fair land. Perhaps it is coming anyway, for allowing evil men into office. “When the wicked rule, the people mourn.” (Proverbs 29:2)

  10. Obama: I won’t make churches conduct gay marriages

    http://washingtonexaminer.com/obama-i-wont-make-churches-conduct-gay-marriages/article/2532418

    No, he’ll be out of town but his DOJ will do the dirty work via lawsuits for him.

    Like “you can keep your own doctor and insurance”.

  11. Interested Bystander

    Zach,

    What’s your take on how the Zimmerman trial is going?

    I think it’s moving faster than expected.

    Trayvon’s “girlfriend” sure was “compelling” today, wasn’t she?

    For those who didn’t get the enjoyment of watching her, she was very disrespectful on the stand to the defense lawyer, and at one point near the end of the day, she uttered under her breath, but loud enough for the microphone to pick up that “I won’t be back tomorrow”.

    I just don’t see why, when Trayvon talks about Zimmerman and calls him rude names, that’s ok, but when Zimmerman describes Martin as black, and a “punk”, he’s vilified?

    I hope the jury gets to hear WHY Martin was in Orlando on that Sunday Night, and not in Miami, especially when it was a school night for MOST kids.

    Also, the 7/11 clerk didn’t seem very honest either.

    Can someone explain to me why there is no audio to the video from the 7/11, but it’s perfectly ok for the Government to listen in on your personal phone conversations?

    The clerk says he can’t remember any conversation he had with Martin.

    It took Martin a good 20 seconds to rummage through his pants to find enough money, and at one point in the conversation the clerk points to whatever is behind him, and then it “appears” Trayvon asked for a bad.

    I’m wondering how many people come in with hoods pulled up and their pants down around their knees?

  12. Interested Bystander

    Ok,

    Off to the shadows until I emerge again to vent.

    And the last word of the second to last paragraph in my last comment should read BAG, not bad.

    Back to regular programing……..

  13. How can SCOTUS kick back the Prop 8 decision to the lower court when they ruled that the appeals court for that decision was not authorized to rule. So how the heck is that lower court decision appealed?? If those citizens who voted for marriage only between a man and a woman who were ruled against by the lower court don’t have standing for an appeal in either the appeals court or supreme then it appears impossible for the people ever to be listened to because even when harmed by court decision they never have standing. At the same time SCOTUS justices have said that such decisions should be left up to the people to decide. Madness reigns! Reason dies.

  14. In the Torah Code, “26 JUNE 2013 ” comes up at a skip of 85. “AMeRiCA” crosses at a skip of 75 and “To’evah (abomination),” skip 436 intersects with “ha-Sodom (of Sodom)” in the plain text (Genesis 10:19). The range is Genesis 10 thru 12 with a matrix of 85. I looked for today’s date in the Torah Code. It comes up once in the Five Books at the low skip of 85.
    85 corresponds to “Abraham” in the Dictionary of Bible Words (Strong’s).

  15. Ephesians 5:31-32 “For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh. This is a profound mystery—but I am talking about Christ and the church.”

    Hear that? A profound mystery! Talking about Christ and the church. Whoever perverts this institution is poking God in the eye. Good luck.

  16. For what it may be worth for those who may be interested, I sometimes post Torah Code stuff that I find. The “finds” give me a lot to think about. Abraham is told to leave his country in this range of finds (Genesis 10 thru 12). He was to separate himself from the surrounding idolatry. “26 June 2013” encrypted here indicates to me the need to separate ourselves and disavow this current government. They have crossed the line. I don’t know what else to say

  17. Pentagon Extends Benefits to Same-Sex Spouses

    http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2013/06/26/pentagon-extends-benefits-to-same-sex-spouses/?mod=WSJ_hpp_LEFTTopStories

    The wives’ cookie exchanges will never be the same…nor, I suspect, the easy discussion!

  18. bob strauss

    Russian Paper: “Weak Eyed Obama” Is Leader Of Sodom & Gomorrah

    http://www.westernjournalism.com/russian-paper-weak-eyed-obama-is-leader-of-sodom-gomorrah/

  19. bob strauss

    Salon On MSNBC: Obama ‘Got The Last Laugh’ When People Died During Hurricane Sandy

    The “perfect storm” for the left.

    http://www.ijreview.com/2013/06/61679-salons-walsh-in-msnbc-obama-got-the-last-laugh-when-people-died-during-hurricane-sandy/

  20. Observer @ 5:07 pm

    Hi Observer,

    The Lord created two sexes for a reason and we all know what that is; humans were meant to procreate, and that’s why the parts ‘fit.’

    While I don’t pass judgment on who gets together with whom, I DO resent the fact that the ‘alternate lifestyle’ is shoved down my throat, when it’s not what I believe to be moral and right. Do what you wanna do, but don’t tell me that my faith and my morals are wrong just because I don’t buy into what I consider to be a deviant lifestyle. I also don’t believe in children being brough into this ‘union.’ It is not a marriage and will never be, regardless of which court says what.

    I also don’t understand how a mere 4% of the population can dictate their lifestyle to the rest of us. I just don’t get it…

  21. SueK | June 26, 2013 at 10:04 pm |
    I also don’t understand how a mere 4% of the population can dictate their lifestyle to the rest of us. I just don’t get it…

    SueK,
    Squeaky wheel gets the grease, and a homosexual usurper in the White House.

  22. SueK | June 26, 2013 at 10:04 pm |
    ========================
    Besides the chaos that the people will bring on themselves by siding with perversion and baby killing, get ready for some doozy of natural disasters since when everyone else forgets Him “the very rocks will cry out”. It always has been and always will be. The end will be as planned and even the elitists in their pride of “I shall not serve” will find that out to their own dismay.

  23. Just a Question?

    How many same sex marriages are there in the American Muslim communities. Looks like the Muslims are winning i.e.,.NSA directed not monitor Mosques and Muslims are exempt from the upcomming Obamacrap, excuse me Obamacare.

  24. oldsailor 81

    A looney toon was on FOX tonight who was being interviewed along with a pastor of a Christian church. The pastor said “A marriage is between a man and a woman” The looney toon said the pastor was wrong, that that is not what his god tells him. Homosexuals are NOT WORSHIPPERS of God. They are ATHEISTS.

  25. Good Morning CW et. al,

    Here is a simply analytical thought pertaining to Snowden. If Snowden really wanted his final destination to be in Central or South America, he could have simply gone their first on vacation. There was no need to attempt such dire route via Hong Kong, Russia, then Central/South America. He knew what he was doing and had every intent in mind to unload secret intelligence to our enemies via China and Russia.

    His passport at that time was not revoked, nor was he limited in such travel on vacation.

    Just common sense.

  26. Good Morning All. Interested Bystander – I haven’t been able to watch the direct and cross examination of witnesses in Zimmerman persecution. The satellite plan we have does not provide enough bandwidth. I read the articles about the case. It is very early in the trial and the witnesses for the prosecution witnesses seem weak to me.

    http://www.cfnews13.com/content/news/cfnews13/news/article.html/content/news/articles/cfn/2013/6/27/george_zimmerman_tri_0.html

  27. citizenwells

    Good morning William, Zach, et al.

  28. hapenHal,

    It’s simple discrimination and Ideological Contradiction by the left socialists. Utopia is difficult to argue against if not construed correctly, which the RINO’s lack the ability to construct to the public.

    Nevertheless, I believe the Republican party has successfully split itself with the upcoming passage of the immigration bill. Which in fact, may not be a bad thing after all. In my opinion, it’s all about exposure; and exposure is what they have done. We now know who stands where on what!

  29. Just a thought,

    With the recent SCOTUS ruling on Prop 8, this may be slight game changer for California voters which leans to the left. The overwhelming voters in California were in fact Hispanic, which are also mostly Catholic, but vote democrats. Having their votes nulled may be enough for some of them to switch parties in the upcoming elections.

  30. You know,

    At one time, our CIA and FBI acted with integrity to protect the United States with due diligence against Socialism and Communism. Now they protect it and attack U.S. Citizens. What a twist…

  31. Here’s a great factual quote:

    “We must now face the harsh truth that the objectives of communism are being steadily advanced because many of us do not recognize the means used to advance them. … The individual is handicapped by coming face to face with a Conspiracy so monstrous he cannot believe it exists. The American mind simply has not come to a realization of the evil which has been introduced into our midst.”

    Quote by: J. Edgar Hoover former FBI director. Source: Elks Magazine (August 1956).

  32. William – We can only hope that Hispanic voters in California will see where the DNC will take them – dependency and second class status. Regarding, marriage and the courts – I would like to see single couples living in partnership sue the feds under an equal protection/discrimination argument that federal and state benefits should not benefit married persons at all. Get government out of marriage all together. It there are not extra goodies provided to ‘married’ couples, then marriage can return to its appropriate place – in the various churches. What many on the left want to do is to completely destroy the concept of marriage and undermine religion. Just my opinion.

  33. Bob,

    Yes, even Russia recognizes Obama’s weakness, which they cheer and part of Obama and the lefts plan all along. Equality!

  34. Zack,

    Most all States do recognize single couple status benefits outside of marriage such as common law marriage, without actually having ever been married.

    I think the best legal move is to have those in Polygamy relationships to challenge the court. This will be based on the same principles the court just agreed too.

    They just opened a floodgate, and cannot deny marriage by anyone’s definition nor benefits. Otherwise, the court contradicts itself.

  35. Interested Bystander – This looks like an interesting site for a version of Zimmerman persecution. http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2013/06/27/day-14-week-3-zimmerman-trial-witness-discussion-thread/

  36. William – I agree. However, it’s the chase for benefits, health care decisions, social security benefits, intestate secession protections, etc. that have caused a perceived difference in treatment by government. Get that out of the picture and marriage will not have its attraction to many who are trying to stir the pot.

  37. There’s been some confusion about the source of “Coincidence?” – it was written by Don Fredrick.
    ********************
    June 26, 2013

    “Coincidence?”
    “By Don Fredrick Via Joan Swirsky Via Email. Originally posted at Don Fredrick’s site The Obama Timeline.”

    http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2013/06/must-read-look-what-just-happened.html
    ===============
    The essay:

    http://www.colony14.net/id668.html

    The video:

    Published on October 12, 2012

  38. I just sent an email to Rubio; here is my comment to him: As an American Citizen concerned for protecting the integrity of our laws, I am curious to your conclusions and justifications of exemption by criminal activity utilized with illegal entry into our boarders and their biasness. For example; How can you or any other politician exempt felony crimes committed by those not U.S. citizens, yet imprison U.S. citizens for the same identical crime without bias? According to your bill, Falsely claiming U.S. citizenship on I-9 form is “waived” by RPI status, but is a Felony punishable up to 3 years under 18 U.S.C. 911. Additionally, Document Fraud to prove Eligibility for employment (no pun intended – not hearsay) is also eligible for felony crime to be waived. This is punishable up to 15 years according to 18 U.S.C. 1546(a), but only applies to U.S. citizens and forgiven to all others? There are of course many other Felony criminal crimes your bill forgives to others but does not forgive the same crimes committed by U.S. citizens.
    How do you justify this? I am fairly confident that I will receive no more than a comment from an intern, a lengthy copy and paste response of your stance while avoiding my direction concerns by an intern, or none at all. Believe it or not, this is expected. And you wonder how you lost our turn out for past elections? I will say this; you and a few others have effectively split the Republican Party and perhaps, that’s not such a negative act after all.

    Sincerely,
    William Richardson

  39. Boycott Walmart for dropping Paula Deen. They are trying to destroy Southerners. She has apologized. Listen to rap songs and teenagers. They say the N word all the time! Get the message out. Boycott Walmart.

  40. Tina,

    I completely agree. I believe Paula should never had to defend herself in the first place. One only needs to walk downtown and elsewhere to see where discrimination takes places. Personally, I have grown tired of hearing excuses of why a particular race cannot move forward. I am living proof it can and within a single generation.

    Time for excuses are over….

  41. Sheriff Mack: Manchurian Candidate Obama Groomed By Commie
    Talk about a Mack Attack: Sheriff Richard Mack is interviewed by Alex Jones…

    http://www.westernjournalism.com/sheriff-mack-manchurian-candidate-obama-groomed-by-commie/

  42. Tina,

    Just to clarify for you, I was the first child on my mothers side – not born on the reservation. I was also the first child to complete High School and also the first child on her side to achieve a college education. Now how did that happen within a single generation?

    It’s not difficult..

  43. WILLIAM…
    .I got your email and I am reviewing it now…looks like you did your homework ! I will contact you later by email. Regerence your above comments; I too am sick and tired of the game that the media is playing about race….How long do you have to beat a dead horse before you know it’s dead?…This situation about Paula Deen is disgraceful…As long as one race keeps making excuses for another, no improvements will be made…thats the way I see it…..the media wants to excuse the face and keep “them down on the farm”…for their actions….I say put it all in the open and call it what it is…in most cases, its REVERSE discrimination. I went through this crap in my latter years in the military…it was sickening. Maybe one day, in private, I will tell you of some of thE idiotic stuff the professional army had to endure. but thats another story.

    To support your above post, I posted an article on June 24 here on CW’s site that pretty well said it all….I will repost it now, just in case you didn’t get to read it….If the TRUTH makes me a racist…then SO MOTE IT BE…..
    ———————————————————————————————–
    CHICAGO IMMIGRANT GUNNED DOWN IN CHICAGO

    A Chicago man is charged with the murder of an Italian immigrant whose final act was to confront the gunman in order to protect his wife, police said.

    According to police, Matthew Brown-Turner entered a pizzeria owned by Giovanni Donancricchia after closing time Thursday night and confronted his wife, Angela.

    Giovanni reportedly saw Brown-Turner enter through a back door and followed him to the counter area where Angela was working,

    64-year-old Giovanni then physically confronted the 23-year-old when he saw he had a gun, allowing Angela time to escape, police said.

    After following his wife out, Donancricchia then returned to confront Brown-Turner again, and was shot once in the chest.

    The gunmen reportedly then fled on foot.

    A witness who knows Brown-Turner told police Thursday that he saw a report on the news and identified him as the suspect. Police set up surveillance near an address provided by the witness and took Brown-Turner into custody early Friday.

    The couple’s son, Saverio told MyFoxChicago.com that his father came to Chicago from Sicily in 1968 at age 19, and had always wanted to start a restaurant. Saverio said his father worked odd jobs until he had enough money to buy a pizzeria of his own.

    “Giovanni Donancricchia was a real hero,” Ray Hanania, a town spokesman said in a statement. “With a disregard for the threat the killer posed to him, he ushered his wife out of the restaurant and harm’s way, which saved her,” Hanania said.

    Brown-Turner was scheduled to appear at a hearing Saturday. He is charged with three counts of murder and one count of attempt armed robbery.
    ——————————————————————————————
    Here is another case of blacks murdering and robbing innocent whites.

    But your won’t here any outcry from Marxist Obama’s Marxist media. They’re only interested in creating trumped up murder charges against George Zimmerman when all he was doing was trying to protect himself from being murdered by Travon Martin.

    Marxist Obama says he wants to stop gun violence by taking guns away from law abiding American citizens. A good place to start would be to take the guns away from the criminal element in Chicago. If he really wants to stop gun violence, he should read the following ACCURATE American crime rates and take guns away from the criminal blacks:

    Crime Rates in America:

    1.Blacks are SEVEN times more likely than people of other races to commit murder, and EIGHT times more likely to commit robbery.

    2.When blacks commit crimes of violence, they are nearly THREE times more likely than non-blacks to use a gun, and more than TWICE as likely to use a knife.

    3.Blacks make up only 12% of America’s population, but commit 85% of the crimes. The population of the nationals prisons also bare this out stat out too.

    4.Hispanics commit violent crimes at roughly THREE times the white rate, and Asians commit violent crimes at about one quarter the white rate.

    5.The single best indicator of violent crime levels in an area is the percentage of the population that is black and Hispanic.
    ——————————————————————————————-
    Figures don’t lie…but lier’s figure…..until we face these facts and act accordingly, nothing will change concerning crime in America.

    Now I don’t think we can lay these figures at the foot of slavery which occurred 160 years ago….but I do think we can say its because of individual behavior…be they black or white, or yellow…..

    Now if the publication of these facts makes me a racist….then so be it.

  44. William,
    That was an excellent email. It would serve Rubio well to listen and heed.

    Tina,

    I haven’t kept up with the Paula Deen thing, but I bet there are very few people in this country who have not said the N word, (both black and white) if for no other reason than to answer the question, “What does ‘N word’ mean, Mommy?” I remember the OJ Simpson trial, when the detective was asked if he had ever used the “N word”. I think his response was something like, “What do you mean by the ‘N word’? Can you tell me?” The defense lawyer refused to answer.

    Political correctness is killing us. When I was in high school, I was called many derogatory names by blacks, simply because I was white. This was shortly after the assassination of MLK.

    But I grew up hearing the old adage, “Sticks and stones can break my bones, but words will never hurt me.” Now, words DO hurt, obviously. But this adage helped me to grow a spine and not take it too seriously.

    Which kind of gets back to William’s point. A word, or a thought can get you in a heap of trouble. But an actual crime will be forgiven if you are an illegal alien. “Some are more equal than others”, a quote from another George Orwell book.

  45. William | June 27, 2013 at 9:34 am |
    *********************
    William,
    Excusing law breakers from prosecution, for these identification document crimes, would include the usurper at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, who has a forged birth certificate, a stolen Social Security card number, and a forged Selective Service card.

  46. oldsailor 81

    Since when does Paula Deen or anyone else have to DEFEND THEIR THOUGHTS. This is America…..you STILL have the RIGHT to SAY WHAT YOU THINK,and believe what you wish. If that OFFENDS some BASTARD QUEER then to HELL WITH THE BASTARD FAGGOT. I watched in sickness as the mentally twisted male faggots KISSED EACH OTHER FULLY ON THE MOUTH. They do not realise what this makes them look like. Next they will be getting onm their knees in public aand taking their partners penis in the ir mouths just to show HOW DAMN SICK THEY REALLY ARE. I hope and pray that each and every one of them DIE AN AGONISING death from their FILTHY practices. I have read that aids is still on the increaswe. I will take very special PLEASURE in watching every one of them DIE a HORRIBLE STINKING DEATH. In addition there is an ever increasing element of disease being passed along by LESBIANS as well. That is fine the more disease the quicker they will be removed from the facwe of the earth. If you do not like what I have said then SUE ME I havn’t a POT TO PISS IN or a window to throw it out of. You will be wasting your money. If you try to imprison me fine you will be doing me a favor.. If you try to kill an 81 year old man it will be you who will be buried instead of me. But be that as it may “GO AHEAD MAKE MY DAY”.

  47. oldsailor 81

    It is the mentally twisted freaks that are taking what Paula Deen had to say,and have done what they all do best TWIST,RE WORD,andn otherwise try to make it mean something else. They are the SLIMEY LITTLE WORDSMITHS who LIVE ON WELFARE MONEY, PICK THEIR NOSES,STINK,PLAY WITH THEMSELVES,DO DRUGS, wear their clothes with the AS OF THEIR PANTS DRAGGING THE GROUND. Oh yes I nearly forgot they are ALSO C-O-O-L,and think UP IS DOWN. In their twisted,perverted little minds this is REALITY.

  48. Thanks William and Sue, good thoughts. I taught my kids not to day the N word. My step-father marched with King. But Paula Deen said that word years ago. It is crazy when teenagers say it daily and no one says anything. Why do Hollywood types win awards for putting the n word in their movies and the little old lady from the south is destroyed? I think it is racism in reverse what they are doing to her.

  49. Apparent the American people are not buying the massacre of Paula Deen……three cheers for Paula !!!

    PAULA DEEN BOOKS SKYROCKET ON AMAZON…HER LATEST BOOK WHICH ISN’T EVEN PUBLISHED YET (AUGUST) HAS JUMPED TO THE NUMBER 1 SPOT…..

    OK…main stream media…explain that one please…
    Aww come on Matt Laur….you know its the ugly white people who are doing this………..

  50. Another thought is the Post’s front page headline is that married gays are eligible for federal benefits proving all along gay marriage was about getting more free stuff.

  51. oldsailor 81

    ADDENDUM………….
    I am really thankful that I served in the military service when MENTALLY DEVIATED people were still being removed from the services,and given Section 8 discharges. That is how it should STILL BE, but thanks to a zillion mental cases who somehow managed to become (ALLEGED) leaders themselves,we now are forced to serve with the mental DEVIATES. Our military services will never be the same again. In the last decade our aircraft carriers have been turned into nuclear powered CRUISE SHIPS..I personally believe that every one of them are SITTING DUCKS to a well equipped enemy..Thanks to a mentally twisted POTUS the Chinese now have the guidance technology for missiles which was at the time TOP SECRET. So maybe it is trime to include the person who was then potus in the same club that our present so called leader has placed SNOWDEN. Maybe the PERSON we sometinnmes refer to as SLICK WILLY should be prosecuted for treason as well. Oh yes I nearly forgot it was the same person who passed all of the coordinates of our undersea listening devices to the Chinese This program by itself was extremely successful. It began with our submarine detection SONOBUOYS, which I am PROUD TO SAY THAT I HELPED TO PRODUCE. in the early sisties.

  52. oldsailor 81

    TYPO sisties= no siixties=yes

  53. Just pre-ordered Paula Deen’s new cookbook from Amazon, and I hardly cook!

  54. oldsailor 81

    Anyone who thinks being GAY (as the word is twisted,) has to do with FREE STUFF you are DEAD WRONG……it is SEXUAL PERVERSION, with a FREEBIE TWIST. The practitioners will eventually pay for their sick pleasure,by meeting the same exact fate as Rock Hudson,Liberace, and a number of others. In their last days on earth their bodies emitted the stench of DEATH. Yet the rest of the so called GAYS think that they will not be affected

  55. oldsailor 81

    Tina………..
    Good for you!

  56. John Lennon used the N word in the lyrics of a song he wrote. Don’t believe me? Look it up.

    It’s a nasty word, but should it be banned?……..I suppose it already has been, thanks to PC.

    I think it was Ben Carson who said we should merely learn to treat each other with respect. I’m for that.

  57. oldsailor 81

    Tina…….Re; 11:23 AM
    It will be a very cold day in HELL when I become afraid to say what I think ANYWHERE,ANYTIME! Some might not like what I have to say but the Bill of RIGHTS is STILL IN FORCE,andn I DO HAVE THAT RIGHT,therefore I will say what I think UNTIL I DIE. The Bill of Rights has NOT YET been LEGALLY overriden. It has been USURPED by mentally TWISTED PEOPLE who think that they are going to shove their TWISTED BULLSHI# down the REST OF OUR THROATS. If you want to allow that it is ypour businesss, but you can rest assured that I will NEVER ALLOW IYT AS LONG AS I AM ALIVE.

  58. oldsailor 81

    Tina……
    The word NIGGER does appear in my issue of Webster’s New World dictionary. Definition= NEGRO, Dark skinned individual, used as a word of contempt for the negro,……but Webster did see fit to include it in this dictionary RIGHT ,WRONG,OR INDIFFERENT. So it appears that in reality it is Webster ‘s Publishing who needs to be FIRST CORRECTED. Those who want to do that then by all means SUE THE WEBSTER PUBLISHING COMPANY, and then have Congress pass a bill which OUTLAWS DICTIONARIES.

  59. Oldsailor,

    Say what you want, anywhere, anytime, as often as you like……that is your right. But Tina is not your foe.

    Just my 2 cents.

  60. On 26 June 2013, Obama made the following remarks concerning Syria:

    “We are sending assault weapons to the rebels (al Quaida) in Syria to confront a regime that does not represent them”….

    a reader responded with this;

    “Dear Al Qaida,
    Can you send them back? We need them to use against a regime that doesn’t represent us.
    Thanks,
    The American People”

    That’s about as close to the truth as we will get today folks……

  61. Boycott the companies that used to support Paula Deen but have now dropped her.

  62. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    I firmly believe that the over turning of DOMA yesterday with the help of Justice Kennedy(A Reagan appointment) will be The Straw That Broke The Camel’s Back.
    I expect to hear anytime now that California has fallen into the Pacific and ocean front property will be available in Nevada!!
    The real shocker was the ringing of bells yesterday at the Episcopal National Cathedral
    and The Shrine of the Immaculate Conception in Washigton DC. One commenter said “Well, They will make money performing all the new weddings!!”

  63. “Huckleberry Finn” was required reading when I was in school. It repeatedly used the word “nigger”. Yet this book was anything but racist.

  64. oldsailor 81

    Mr. Bill…………
    All the SCOTUS has accomplished is the deepening of the already deep chasm between the American people. “A COUNTRY DIVIDED CANNOT STAND”. Said by a person a hell of a lot brighter than me,but he was right on the money so far as I am concerned.

  65. oldsailor 81

    Today we watch the people of America become even more polarized than in the past. If that trend continues the WE THE PEOPLE CLUB will soon be fighting amongst ourselves….perhaps even killing each other……..all because somebody dares to say something contrary to the beliefs of somebody else,yet they both stand for the SAME basic values. My point…..if whatever I say offends then offend it shall, but the difference is whether or not it is said in MALICE OF FORETHOUGHT.

  66. oldsailor 81

    ………further I personally think that we are very close to being at a point where we might be far better off to stop putting window dressing upon the words we utter.
    It might very well be time to start saying exactly what we see in our mind’s eye. It might come out ugly,and otherwise offensive,but at least it will have been said in PLAIN AND SIMPLE TRUTH……..CAN YOU HANDLE THE TRUTH?

  67. oldsailor 81

    G,NITE ALL…… i’m out of here! HAVE A GREAT DAY! I AM WAITING FOR SOME OCEANFRONT PROPERTY TO SHOW UP IN ARIZONA!

  68. oldsailor 81

    Before I shut down I would like to clear up one tiny misconception……… I have NEVER regarded TINA or anyone else as a FOE. However I have stated my viewpoints. If they offended anybody I can only say that it was NEVER my intention to offend anybody. As I said I do not use any window dressing on my words. If my words are poorly chosen then so be it. There was a day when I was a bit more careful in the choice of my words. Sadly that day is long past. ……Again, G,NITE ALL.

  69. Oldsailor,

    You never offended me at all. I must have not expressed myself the way I intended. (Does that surprise anyone? I seem to do that way to often.)

    Take care friend. I’m going to take a break.

  70. PS, It was not your choice of words………..no problem whatsoever! It seemed to me you were directing your comments towards Tina. As usual, I injected myself where I had no business. My apologies.

  71. Thanks so much, SueQ and Old Sailor. I appreciate everyone’s thoughts. I was responding about free stuff to an older comment made many weeks ago that gay marriage was really about getting federal benefits. But again, I understand the other comments.

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