No sign liberals targeted by IRS, US tax investigator, Russell George inspector general for tax administration, June 27, 2013, Associated Press letter

No sign liberals targeted by IRS, US tax investigator, Russell George inspector general for tax administration, June 27, 2013, Associated Press letter

“Now, I don’t get upset when foreign and national journalists fail to mention Tony Rezko, or the Daley boys, or how the Chicago machine plans to staff the Department of Justice, and the new Department of Homeland Casinos.”…John Kass, Chicago Tribune July 30, 2008

“The past, he reflected, had not merely been altered, it had
actually been destroyed. For how could you establish, even
the most obvious fact when there existed no record outside
your own memory?”…George Orwell, “1984″

From Florida Today June 27, 2013.

“US tax investigator: No sign liberals targeted by IRS”
“A government inspector who detailed the U.S. federal tax agency’s tough treatment of conservative groups says he has no evidence that liberal groups were similarly targeted, according to a letter obtained by The Associated Press on Thursday.

Russell George, the inspector general for tax administration, addressed the letter to a top Democratic lawmaker who has complained that George unfairly focused on tea party and other conservative groups in a report released last month, while omitting mention of liberals.

George’s report became a major scandal for the Obama administration and led to the removal of at least five top officials at the Internal Revenue Service, including former acting Commissioner Steven Miller. It revealed that the IRS targeted conservative groups for extra scrutiny when they applied for tax-exempt status.

Democrats seem determined to shift the focus to this week’s disclosure that “Progressive” was also on a list of terms used by IRS screeners from 2010 to 2012 to look for applicants with potential problems that would merit close scrutiny.

In a letter obtained Thursday by The Associated Press, George acknowledged that “Progressives” appeared on the list. But he said there was no evidence the IRS set aside progressive groups’ applications for tax-exempt status because they appeared on that list.

George said his investigators have “multiple sources of information corroborating,” including interviews with IRS employees, emails and other documents, that tea party groups’ applications were set aside for close examinations.”

Read more:

http://www.floridatoday.com/viewart/20130627/NEWS/306270052/US-tax-investigator-No-sign-liberals-targeted-by-IRS

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97 responses to “No sign liberals targeted by IRS, US tax investigator, Russell George inspector general for tax administration, June 27, 2013, Associated Press letter

  1. Another solid citizen of New Jersey just going about his business…Where was the Neighborhood watch? Will this make national news? I doubt it….
    The main stream media is too busy with the Trayvon Martin thing…Should America be OUTRAGED over this crap…YOU BET WE SHOULD…

  2. US Supreme Court struck down the Defense of Marriage Act, in part on the grounds that states should have the right to decide the definition of marriage, the federal government has no Constitutional authority to do it.

    Glad to hear States Rights are making a comeback with the Lefties. Let’s remember this when Obama, Feinstein and Bloomberg call for national gun control legislation in the near future

    But the Liberals have a short memory.

    .Funny thing about politics…you CAN have it both ways.The Left has proven that over and over.

  3. Interested Bystander

    RMinNC,

    It doesn’t fit THEIR agenda.

    Now reverse the races and sexes, THEN you would have a public outcry for justice.

    And please, someone tell me that Trayvon’s “girlfriend” did NOT just say that being called a “crazy ass cracker” is NOT racist. (who was doing the “racial profiling” here, or maybe BOTH were)

    But say the “n” word ONE TIME in your LIFE, and you will be judged.

    I would suggest to you that you would be hard pressed to find someone who HASN’T said it.

    I’ve said it, and I’ll probably say it again.

    UP is DOWN.

  4. Interested Bystander

    Hey All,

    If you haven’t noticed, although I am some 29 years younger than oldsailor, I give my opinions without regard for how they will be preceived.

  5. Interested Bystander

    RMinNC,

    But the SC also struck down the Proposition 8 law that PASSED in California which defines a marriage as being between a man and a woman, just like DOMA did, and upheld a lower court’s opinion.

  6. http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/06/27/charges-filed-against-mf-corzine

    Its about da_n time SOMEBODY is being held accountable for recent fraud.

    Still waiting for accountability for the ’08 collapse, Solyndra, F and Furious, etc., etc., etc.

  7. Umm….didn’t common sense sorta dictate this outcome??

    Polygamists See Gay Marriage Ruling Opening Door to Multiple Marriages

    http://www.newsmax.com/TheWire/polygamists-gay-marriage-ruling/2013/06/27/id/512233#ixzz2XSJrwzvn

  8. Gorodo….. I need your expertise. My computer crashed and I had to get a new hard drive put in. I wanted to stay with Microsoft Windows 7. I did not like Windows 8. I had to finally switch to Mozilla Firefox and I am glad now that I switched. My poor husband is getting tired having to work on my computer all the time. 🙂

    My problem is we no longer can share our e-mail with Charter. Problem is My husband has tried several times now to hook my lap top up with Reagan’s e-mail but can not get accepted. He has e-mailed them with his e-mail and phone number for help ….but no reply. Do you have any idea what is wrong? I hear there is another e-mail from some other person who has the protected e-mail system.

  9. A “PLANNED” SCANDAL…….

    Does anyone besides me think it might be possible that Obama and his team “Planned” this IRS scandal to clean out the IRS so he could put “his own people” in there?

    Since the scandal broke, about eight top IRS officials have resigned their positions…..that means that eight more crooks will be appointed to fill those positions….

    Seems like all the ongoing scandals are only accomplishing one thing….TO MAKE ROOM FOR MORE OBAMA THINKING PEOPLE…..Why haven’t any of these scandals gotten to the source of the scandals?

    We are dealing with a very shiffty group of crooks here folks….the secret is to think like they think.

    That source, of course, is OBAMA himself…….

  10. bob strauss

    Dems Admit Obama’s Not Eligible

    Weary of defending in court the Constitutional eligibility of their man at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, the Democrat Party has finally admitted Barack Obama is not qualified to be president of the United States– and that it doesn’t matter. According to a motion filed by Party attorneys in Tennessee.

    http://www.westernjournalism.com/dems-admit-obama-not-eligible-dont-care/

  11. Observer @ 5:50 pm

    Well, Observer, if that’s what the polygamists believe, I think I’ll go ahead and marry a goat this weekend…

  12. bob strauss

    SueK | June 27, 2013 at 9:28 pm |

    Observer @ 5:50 pm

    Well, Observer, if that’s what the polygamists believe, I think I’ll go ahead and marry a goat this weekend…
    ****************************************
    When they are done redefining marriage it will resemble what they have in a Muslim country. The usurper will settle for nothing less.

    One thing about all of these marriages, it will mean more divorces, and more business for the lawyers.

  13. bob strauss

    Scalia: Gay Marriage Decision ‘Jaw-Dropping’

    In a blistering rebuke of the Supreme Court

    http://www.westernjournalism.com/scalia-gay-marriage-decision-jaw-dropping/

  14. LOL: Birthers Ambush Obama During $100 Million Trip To Africa; Welcome Home Mr. President

    http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2013/06/lol-birthers-ambush-obama-during-100.html

  15. Report: Immigration Bill Will Decriminalize Obama’s Felony Identity Document Fraud?

    http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2013/06/report-immigration-bill-will.html

  16. Must Read: Look What Just Happened: Damning Expose Of The Greatest Fraud In History By Don Fredrick Via Joan Swirsky

    http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2013/06/must-read-look-what-just-happened.html

  17. Update: Rep. Stockman & Sheriff Joe To Address Obama ID Fraud Investigation Live June 28, 2013

    http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2013/06/sheriff-joe-addresses-obama-id-fraud.html

  18. Observer | June 27, 2013 at 5:50 pm |
    Umm….didn’t common sense sorta dictate this outcome??
    Polygamists See Gay Marriage Ruling Opening Door to Multiple Marriages
    ===============================
    Supreme Court’s decision may have long range ramifications that would remove American wives and mothers and daughters from a special exemption they have been privilege to throughout our nation’s history.

    Someone I know very well serves on their local draft board. This friend is concerned that fewer people will enlist in the Armed Forces, in part, due to this administration’s pro- gay and anti-religion policies. This shortage of military personnel could lead to reinstating the draft.

    It’s just a matter of time before someone brings suit that since all men and women have equal standing in Federal laws, women also should be subject to the draft. The gay marriage ruling will open the door to Selective Service requiring women to register for the draft.

  19. Leaks: Donald Trump On Fox News; Obama’s Records Only Ones Not Being Leaked

    http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2013/06/trump-obama-records-only-ones-not-leaked.html

  20. Where Is The GOP’s 2010 Pledge To America?
    On September 23, 2010, the Grand Old Party made a Pledge to America that they promised to uphold if we gave them the House majority. Indeed, on November 2, 2010, we gave them that majority; but where now are the promises of the pledge?

    http://www.westernjournalism.com/where-is-the-gops-2010-pledge-to-america/

  21. June 27, 2013

    Paul Sperry:

    “Obama Brings Affirmative Action Back With A Vengeance”

    “While the Supreme Court rolls back the Voting Rights Act of 1965, condemning it as an unnecessary vestige of the civil-rights era, President Obama is acting as if America were still in the mid-’60s.

    His race-obsessed administration is bringing racial preferences and affirmative action back with a vengeance.

    And it’s doing so outside the legislative process, largely behind the scenes, through executive orders, regulations and prosecutions, effectively expanding existing civil-rights law.”

    http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials-perspective/062713-661675-obama-pushing-racial-preferences-on-employers-lenders-schools.htm?p=full

  22. RMinNC | June 27, 2013 at 4:42 pm |
    Another solid citizen of New Jersey just going about his business…Where was the Neighborhood watch? Will this make national news? I doubt it….
    The main stream media is too busy with the Trayvon Martin thing…Should America be OUTRAGED over this crap…YOU BET WE SHOULD…
    ———–

    This is scary, and why every women should own a gun or learn to defend herself. Thanks for sharing.

  23. bob strauss | June 27, 2013 at 9:46 pm |
    =========================
    I wouldn’t be surprised, when the state takes more and more control of marriage, they will mandate which women will be allowed to procreate…and do it on political lines. China had their child policies based on the so called strain on the population which had the effect of families suffering from the lack of help from more children and always from hearts growing cold. And liberal/feminist women themselves will even stand behind such gov. control in order to persecute women of faith and family.

  24. citizenwells

    Good morning Zach, et al.

  25. You are most welcome TINA….

    I own a handgun and I have taught my wife how to use it.

    There are some Cardinal Rules you must understand and follow in regards to using a handgun or any other gun.

    1, Don’t ever use a gun unless you are willing to ‘shoot to kill”…otherwise the gun may be taken from you and I assure you that your attacker WILL shoot to kill.

    2. Don’t ever shot to wound…..otherwise again the gun may be taken from you and used against you….

    3. If you ever show a gun to someone who can bring you harm…do not be afraid to follow Rule One….

    This is just some common sense from an old soldier who has used many guns in his lifetime and lived to tell about it.

  26. James Cartwright, Retired Marine General, Targeted In Leak Probe: Reports
    WASHINGTON — A former vice chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff is under investigation for allegedly leaking classified information about a covert cyberattack on Iran’s nuclear facilities, according to media reports.

    Retired Marine Gen. James “Hoss” Cartwright has been told he is a target of the probe, NBC News and The Washington Post reported Thursday. A “target” is someone a prosecutor or grand jury has substantial evidence linking to a crime and who is likely to be charged.

    The Justice Department referred questions to the U.S. attorney’s office in Baltimore, where a spokeswoman, Marcia Murphy, declined to comment.
    ———————————————————————————————-
    Has anyone noticed that all the generals who are forced out or investigated for leaks or discredited are always white generals…..I wonder why?

    Could Obama be building his all black army commanders from the ground up?

    If the Justice Department is really interested in investigating leaks…I suggest they start in the White House…or maybe at the Department of Justice.

  27. bob strauss

    Observer | June 28, 2013 at 8:20 am |

    bob strauss | June 27, 2013 at 9:46 pm |
    =========================
    I wouldn’t be surprised, when the state takes more and more control of marriage, they will mandate which women will be allowed to procreate…and do it on political lines. China had their child policies based on the so called strain on the population which had the effect of families suffering from the lack of help from more children and always from hearts growing cold. And liberal/feminist women themselves will even stand behind such gov. control in order to persecute women of faith and family.
    ***************************
    Observer,
    All of this should take guidance from the tenth Amendment of the Constitution.

    “The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.”

  28. bob strauss

    CHICK-FIL-A CEO: ‘Founding Fathers Would Be Ashamed’ Of Supreme Court Rulings…

    http://atlanta.cbslocal.com/2013/06/27/chick-fil-a-ceo-founding-fathers-would-be-ashamed-of-supreme-court-ruling/

  29. Sheriff Arpaio and U.S. Congressman Stockman Discuss Obama’s ID Fraud

    5-7PM Eastern

    http://commieblaster.com/index.html

  30. IMMIGRATION & NATURALIZATION SERVICE DOC FOUND: U.S. CERTIFICATE ISSUED TO ONE EAST AFRICAN-BORN CHILD OF U.S. CITIZEN IN 1961

    http://politicalvelcraft.org/2012/03/26/breaking-obama-immigration-naturalization-service-doc-found-u-s-certificate-issued-to-one-east-african-born-child-of-u-s-citizen-in-1961/

  31. Email Exchange: Obama Tried to Steer $10 Million to Chicago Nonprofit Under Investigation

    http://dailycaller.com/2013/06/27/email-exchange-claims-obama-tried-to-steer-10-million-to-chicago-nonprofit-under-investigation/

  32. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2350807/George-Zimmerman-trial-Neighbor-tells-court-Trayvon-Martin-straddling-George-Zimmerman-MMA-pound-ground-position-shot.html?ito=feeds-newsxml And this was a prosecution witness? I think they may be trying to get a dismissal before Defense puts on a case so they can go home. If they care about the danger to jurors in the event of an acquittal, they (the judge) should take it out of their hand.

  33. Jack Cashill:

    “STAR ZIMMERMAN WITNESS IMPLODES”

    “Save for the true believers, the expectations did not survive the afternoon. The plus-size, American-born daughter of Haitian and Dominican parents, 19 at the time of the trial, defied easy description. She was sassy, defiant and all but incomprehensible.

    Before she was through, she would test the patience of the prosecution, the defense, the judge and especially the court reporter.

    The most pathetic moment in the two days of her testimony occurred when Jeantel, a high school senior, proved unable to read back a letter she was originally alleged to have written. “I don’t read cursive,” she said.

    Defense attorney Don West quickly established that Jeantel was 18 at the time of the shooting not 16, that she had not been hospitalized, and that she was not Martin’s girlfriend. He also confirmed that she lied about the hospitalization under oath,

    West walked Jeantel through the various stories she had been telling since first going public, emphasizing their discrepancies.”

    http://www.wnd.com/2013/06/star-zimmerman-witness-implodes/

  34. “GEORGE ZIMMERMAN TRIAL WITNESS RACHEL GEANTEL 6.26.13 PT.17”

  35. I wonder if Prosecution is intentionally trying to present such a weak case in order to diffuse the anger in black community. When defense presents medical evidence consistent with prosecution’s witness testimony, etc., hopefully people will realize that Trayvon was the aggressor.

  36. Is this for real??? Is this administration purposely trying to destroy this country???

    Obama In The Name Of Austerity: Officially Shuts Down The United States’ Southern Border Air Defense System!

    Air Force’s Air Defense Radar Systems Along U.S./Mexico Border Was SHUTDOWN On March 15th, 2013

    On January 17th, 2013, Exelis Systems Corporation sent out an email (see email below) to all of its employees informing them that on March 15th, 2013 all TARS Air Defense Mission Operations will permanently cease.

    These TARS Air Defense sites were under the control of the United States Air Force.

    On January 15th, 2013, the Air Force informed Exelis (the defense contractor running the TARS sites) that the TARS sites will be shut down.

    Exelis tried to then negotiate with the Department of Homeland Security [ROTHSCHILD NAZI DISINFORMATION MACHINE] to see if they would take over the vital project, but it seems as though those negotiations have failed. What does this mean?

    This means the southern border of the United States of America will be more vulnerable to attack from low flying aircrafts, low altitude missiles, and other infiltrations such as smuggling.

    Speaking on the condition of anonymity, one Exelis employee had this to say about the announced closure of the TARS sites:

    “Not only will this closure mean hundreds of people will be out of jobs, but it also means our borders will not be safe, especially along the remote U.S. Mexico Border like in Texas. These defense radars detect low flying aircraft infiltrating our borders.

    Without these defense radars, low flying aircraft will go undetected. It will be open season for any drug/gun/slave smugglers, terrorists flying in with nukes, low altitude missiles, or even a full scale low elevation invasion/attack against America.”

    http://politicalvelcraft.org/2013/06/27/obama-in-the-name-of-austerity-officially-shuts-down-the-united-states-southern-border-air-defense-system/

  37. The above (air defense system shutdown) needs to be investigated. This vindictive, out-of-control, and destructive POTUS needs to be stopped.

  38. John in Illinois
  39. John in Illinois

    Carl Gallups, sorry

  40. Does this explain the probable mental health issues in the WH….self (own country) destructive tendencies and hatred?

    Betty Shabazz tragedy is about mental illness

    http://articles.baltimoresun.com/1997-06-07/news/1997158038_1_x-autobiography-malcolm-x-life-of-malcolm

    ……Recuperation from physical ailments is easier to gauge. How do we know that a Qubilah Shabazz or a Malcolm Shabazz is improving in a mental illness? How do we even know that their ailments aren’t hereditary? Malcolm X’s mother suffered from mental illness, as did his brother Reginald.

    ……As those who keep up with the news now know, young Malcolm was charged with juvenile delinquency in connection with a fire last weekend that resulted in his grandmother, Betty Shabazz, being severely burned over 80 percent of her body. Subsequent news reports said the boy was angry about being sent to live with his grandmother; that he had frequent clashes with his mother, Qubilah; and that he had led a troubled, nomadic life. Both mother and son have been treated for mental illness, according to news reports.

    Connection to the inability to feel the suffering of others….like leaving people to die if it serves your personal purposes?? or approve of the most horrendous treatment of babies and/or the elderly??

  41. Well, we knew this was coming. Looks like, for those who believe in God’s Word, the Commandment “thou shalt not kill” only applies when in a concrete building called a church or “worship” facility. And there they must leave their freedom of religion right, or, as we will more than likely see, be imprisoned or fined beyond affordability.

    US to Force Birth Control Rule on Employers With Religious Ties

    http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/obamacare-insurance-coverage-birth/2013/06/28/id/512562#ixzz2XYVbD962

    Sebelius has performed her own self-excommunication, along with Pelosi and Biden.

  42. bob strauss

    Americans put a stop to Hitler, and Americans will have to put a stop to Barack Hussein Obama.

    ‘Der Führer’ Barack Hussein Obama
    http://www.westernjournalism.com/der-fuhrer-barack-hussein-obama/

  43. Good advice, RMinNC. Thanks.

  44. The publisher just cancelled Paula Deen’s book that was #1 on Amazon.com! They should leave the lady alone.

  45. Good morning CW et. al,

  46. Comment on Snowden;

    A small few in the media such as Savage are calling him a hero. I believe he certainly is not a hero and instead refer to him as a Traitor. I also believe he is nothing more than a spoiled delusional socialist brat. One that considers China and Russia to be friends and allies to the United States and blames the United States for “misunderstanding them” and in turn – runs to their aide for protection – is quantitatively certifiable traitor.

    Snowden collected and took far more intelligence information than just the expanding Patriot Act. Snowden could have gone straight to South America which he claimed was his destination, but he didn’t. Instead, he ran to China and Russia with open friendly arms.

    Snowden’s father has considered a few demands he wants met for his son’s return, which I think are beyond ridiculous. He should neither get a hero’s return to the U.S. nor his requests met with bribery. He should be quietly disposed of by the C.I.A. or kidnapped and brought back in shackles.

  47. Tina,

    She should go with another publisher. There are many that would not fret at point of making a profit.

  48. Just to add,

    One thing Paula should not do, is give in to this PC of White Guilt crap.

  49. Willam,
    I’m not agreeing or disagreeing with your statements on Snowden. It’s very hard to say he gave China and Russia anything, since everything that has been released to the public thus far, was already known or suspected concerning misuse of the Patriot Act. He deserves whistleblower protection until it’s determined that he endangered others or gave information that will benefit enemies. If he endangered other agents abroad, or gave away secrets that compromise the United states ability to defend itself, I go with traitor.

    Pete

  50. Pete,

    If he deserves or even wants whistleblower protection, he should have gone through the proper legal channels here in the U.S., with proper legal representation in order to do that. He choose otherwise.

  51. Pete,

    Its the sort of those working at N.M. Los Alamos, download intelligence, sneak it out, run to China, claim they gave them nothing, but want Whistleblower protection when caught and wanted.

    It doesn’t work both ways, and certainly not in that persons favor. The difficultly level is that you never know exactly what they gave away. If they stay in the U.S. and follow protocol for whistleblower protection under the legal authority, at least you have the ability to know what they released and to whom. Reason I say you cannot have it both ways.

  52. Additionally,

    I would like anyone to explain to me the very simple question, if his true destination was South America for protection, then why didn’t he go there in the first place?

  53. Let me put this route another way.

    If I have top secret information and wish to leak it publically, I have 2 choices. I can use the whistleblowers avenue and Congress for legal protection, or I can run and attempt to do it that way.

    However, if I as a person wish to run – say to Sweden – for protection as a safe haven knowing I will most likely not be extradited, then I would head straight for Sweden wouldn’t I? Why would I fly to China, then Russia, then Cuba, and hit every know enemy of the U.S. while carrying such sensitive information, with Sweden being my last stop?

    The Obvious is just what it is.

  54. citizenwells

    Good morning William, Pete, et al.

  55. citizenwells

    Pete, I saw that.
    Thanks

  56. Pete,

    I did read that link you posted this morning early on and was an interesting find. But more than not, I am impressed with the notion and sign that many have not given up researching exposing Obama. I’m more impressed with that then anything else.

  57. Good morning cw,

    Friday, June 28, 2013
    Sheriff Joe Arpaio: There’s No Doubt Obama Birth Certificate Forged; Rep. Stockman On Board?

    http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2013/06/sheriff-joe-no-doubt-obama-document-forged.html

  58. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    RMinNC – Good News for your first comment. They caught the SOB from that home invasion. He had just been released from prison.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2351447/Police-catch-home-invader-vicious-attack-mother-child-caught-familys-nanny-cam.html

    First good news in 8 years!

  59. Mr. Bill,

    That S.O.B. deservers no less than 15 years hard time. And if I had my way, I would Horse-Whip the S.O.B. before he even made it to court.

    That is not a racist comment, because I would do the same to any person that did that to a woman. I am not a forgiving person when it comes to crap like this. If this happened to my wife, Horse-whipping is the least thing you better worry about when it comes to me.

    I have Zero tolerance when it comes to this of this nature.

  60. Jonah,

    Has your position changed any pertaining to ret. Col. Allen West representing your area, knowing he is attempting to get back in politics?

  61. West does not represent my area. I do not live in Florida but if I had a choice between Allen West and Marco Rubio for the Senate, I’d choose West.

  62. Mr.Bill…

    G R E A T ………whats the execution date/….oh whats that you say… Obama has pardoned him because he was only doing what was expected of him…..

    Well I feel like WILLIAM…..he should never make it to a court house for a trial……

  63. This is indoctrination of the worst sort, and few people know about it. Reminds one of Hitler’s Youth Movement in the days of Nazism.

    California Schools to Spend Millions Training Kids to Sell ObamaCare

    (quote)
    The Los Angeles Unified School District will use a state grant to train teens to promote ObamaCare to family members. Covered California, the state’s health insurance exchange, announced grants of $37 million on May 14 to promote the nationally unpopular law.
    LAUSD will receive $990,000. The district listed as a primary outcome for its project, “Teens trained to be messengers to family members.”

    http://libertyblitzkrieg.com/2013/06/26/california-schools-to-spend-millions-training-kids-to-sell-obamacare/

  64. WILLIAM…..good morning my friend from Tennessee….

    Have you ever thought that Snowden was nothing more than a “courier” ? what a perefct way our commander-in-chief has devised to get secret information to our enemies…”get a snowman”….

    look how serious Obama has been about trying to get Snowden back…he hasn’t even called Putin or anyone …and he says he will not scramble a jet for him…sounds like he (obama) isn’t interested in getting him back at all……..thats just my opinion…

    Second point….what national secrets have thus far been disclosed to the public?….answer NADA, ZILCH, NONE… they have been retained by the person(s) that the ‘courier” was sent to contact…..there will be NO vital information published that Snowden supposedly has…if he had any it is being retained by those he went to see in China and Russia…on orders from higher headquarters….

    Remember when Obama said to the Russian PM right before the election on a hot mic..”tell Vladimer that after the election, I will have more flexability”……is Snowden that flexibility?…is someone moving our national secrets via “courier”?…my money says YES..

    Others on here will argue Snowden is a hero…some will say he’s a traitor…I reserve my opinion until further developments are made….

    What I have noted in this post is only my opinion…but a sound logical opinion…..think about it.

  65. Obama Readies US Marines to Assist in Egypt… But Wouldn’t Send US Marines to Benghazi

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/06/obama-readies-us-marines-to-assist-in-egypt-but-wouldnt-send-marines-to-benghazi-on-9-11/

    The Obama Administration put the US Marines were on alert in southern Europe today as a precaution in advance of massive protests expected in Egypt.

    But the Obama Administration wouldn’t send US Marines in Europe to assist the US Ambassador in Benghazi on 9-11.

  66. Ted Cruz Tells National Right to Life Convention: Democrats Don’t Care About Infanticide

    Posted by Jim Hoft on Friday, June 28, 2013, 5:16 PM

    In 2008 abortion survivor Gianna Jessen joined Born Alive Truth in a campaign to shine light on Barack Obama’s horrific record in support of infanticide. Gianna, who had survived as a baby after being aborted, pointed out that–
    Obama voted 4 times in support of infanticide:

    The liberal media ignored this gruesome story.

    Today Senator Ted Cruz (R-TX) told the National Right to Life Convention that Democrats don’t care about infanticide.
    Life News reported:

    During a speech at the National Right to Life convention on Friday, pro-life Texas Sen. Ted Cruz said Democrats in the Senate don’t really care that abortionists like Kermit Gosnell kill babies in what is essentially infanticide.

    Cruz opened by thanking pro-life advocates for their efforts.

    “Thank you for that commitment to those who are most vulnerable among us, despite the ridicule of the mainstream media,” he said.

    Cruz recalled the story of when his older daughter was getting ready for her unborn younger sister to be be born. And he remembered how his daughter offered his unborn child her blanket to cuddle with and chew on for security.

    “It is amazing that, as a two-year-old, child, Caroline was able to understand something that Barack Obama and Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid don’t understand.”

    …Cruz mentioned Douglas Karpen, the late-term abortion practitioner who practices in Houston, Texas who also kills babies born alive and he said Senate Democrats don’t care that someone like Karpen operates like that. He condemned news outlets that ignored Gosnell and said pro-life advocates were successful in pressuring the media to cover his murder trial.

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/

  67. oldsailor 81

    Observer……………
    I would say that we only need to look at what is going on witrh regard to the outright murder of infants to realise the level of deterioration that is already at hand in our alleged society. It is fast becoming a SICK, DEVIANT,AND OTHERWISE MORALLY TWISTED SOCIETY. yOU DO NOT NEED A SHEEPSKIN TO SEE THROUGH SUCH PEOPLE AS REID ,PELOSI,AND SOETORO. Sadly they are supported by an ever expanding mass of MAGGOTS, who chose to writhe upon the rotting carcass vying for a bite of it.

  68. oldsailor 81

    ……………..such people think more about their sick twisted sexual gratification, and their genitals, than they do the requirements of their various elected positions,and representing the people.

  69. oldsailor 81

    ……………but their CREATOR sees all of it, and when it is time humankind as a whole will be struck dead in one masive swing of GOD’S axe.

  70. What bugs me the most is that the people who are in charge these days are actually dumber than door knobs when you come right down to it. They all live in the big delusion that most folks leave behind at a young age when they take on real responsibility. And the head door knob simply reads the pap that somebody in hiding puts in front of him. When that isn’t available it is obvious that he returns to the only self that is….a street agitator and shake down artist who has always lived off of others and wastes everything that he’s stolen. If the reigns of power get into the hands of horrendous tyrants, what power is left in the hands of the people unless they’re willing to risk everything….which they will do anyway if they do nothing.??

  71. RMinNC | June 29, 2013 at 9:36 am |
    WILLIAM…..good morning my friend from Tennessee….

    Have you ever thought that Snowden was nothing more than a “courier” ? what a perefct way our commander-in-chief has devised to get secret information to our enemies…”get a snowman”….
    ++++++++++++++++++++++

    That is exactly what I think!

  72. I’m glad to see someone on here thinks as I think……

  73. Jonah,

    My apology,

    Without looking up past conversations, I thought through past memory your stance was behind Ret. Col. West as a V.P. Candidate and claims of how well his excellent representation in your area was, as well as being a minority, and his military service fir the State of Florida. Perhaps I misunderstood whereby you meant in Florida district and State which is not yours.

    At that time during our brief conversations, I disagreed and for obvious reasons still do. As well all known, needless to say, his political career ambitions come first – Above County and the United States.

  74. RMinNC,

    Sent you an email this morning.

  75. Just to say before heading out for a bit,

    When it comes to the distinctions between Rubio and Ret. Col Allen West, I would say this: I expect more from a military officer than a politician, but do not understand why a military officer would yield his integrity for political ambitions! Personally, I hold them at a higher accountability than a lawyer. They know better. And to do nothing, makes them worse.

  76. WILLIAM…
    .I just read your email and responded…I agree with your position on West…if he can’t stand up for the Constitution…then he can’t stand up for me…..

  77. This is the best email I ever received………….
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Those of You Born
    1930 – 1979

    At the end of this Email is a quote of the month by Jay Leno.. If you don’t read anything else, Please Read what he Said.
    Very well stated, Mr. Leno.

    TO ALL THE KIDS WHO SURVIVED THE
    1930’s, 40’s, 50’s, 60’s and 70’s!

    First, we survived being born to mothers
    Who smoked and/or drank while they were
    Pregnant.

    They took aspirin, ate blue cheese dressing,
    Tuna from a can and didn’t get tested for diabetes.

    Then after that trauma, we were put to sleep on our tummies in baby cribs covered with bright colored lead-base paints.

    We had no childproof lids on medicine bottles,
    Locks on doors or cabinets and when we rode
    Our bikes, we had baseball caps not helmets on our heads.

    As infants & children,
    We would ride in cars with no car seats,
    No booster seats, no seat belts, no air bags, bald tires and sometimes no brakes.

    Riding in the back of a pick-up truck on a warm day
    Was always a special treat.

    We drank water
    From the garden hose and not from a bottle.

    We shared one soft drink with four friends,
    From one bottle and no one actually died from this.

    We ate cupcakes, white bread, real butter and bacon.
    We drank Kool-Aid made with real white sugar.
    And, we weren’t overweight.
    WHY?

    Because we were
    Always outside playing…that’s why!

    We would leave home in the morning and play all day,
    As long as we were back when the
    Streetlights came on.

    No one was able
    To reach us all day. And, we were O.K.

    We would spend hours building our go-carts out of scraps
    And then ride them down the hill, only to find out
    We forgot the brakes. After running into the bushes
    a few times, we learned to solve the problem.

    We did not have Playstations, Nintendo’s and X-boxes.
    There were no video games, no 150 channels on cable,
    No video movies or DVD’s, no surround-sound or CD’s,
    No cell phones, No personal computers, no Internet and no chat rooms. WE HAD FRIENDS
    And we went outside and found them!

    We fell out of trees, got cut, broke bones and teeth
    And there were no lawsuits from these accidents.

    We ate worms and mud pies made from dirt,
    And the worms did not live in us
    Forever.

    We were given BB guns for our 10th birthdays,
    Made up games with sticks and tennis balls and,
    Although we were told it would happen,
    We did not put out very many eyes.

    We rode bikes or walked to a friend’s house and
    Knocked on the door or rang the bell, or just
    Walked in and talked to them.

    Little League had tryouts and not everyone made the team.
    Those who didn’t had to learn to deal
    With disappointment.
    Imagine that!!

    The idea of a parent bailing us out if we broke the law
    Was unheard of.
    They actually sided with the law!

    These generations have produced some of the best
    Risk-takers, problem solvers and inventors ever.

    The past 50 years
    Have been an explosion of innovation and new ideas.
    We had freedom, failure, success and responsibility,
    and we learned how to deal with it all.

    If YOU are one of them?
    CONGRATULATIONS!

    You might want to share this with others
    who have had the luck to grow up as kids, before the
    lawyers and the government regulated so much of our lives
    for our own good.

    While you are at it, forward it to your kids so they will know
    how brave and lucky their parents were.

    Kind of makes you want to run through the house
    with scissors, doesn’t it ?

    The quote of the
    month is by Jay Leno:
    “With hurricanes, tornados, fires out of control,
    mud slides, flooding, severe thunderstorms
    tearing up the country from one end to another,
    and with the threat of swine flu
    and terrorist attacks.
    Are we sure this is a good time
    to take God out of the Pledge of Allegiance?

  78. SueQ…..that was G R E A T…..thanks a lot…

    It sure brought back a lot of memories from my late 1930’s early 1940’s childhood….especially the part where you said, ‘No one was able
    To reach us all day. And, we were O.K”….and the other part where you said…”when the street lights came one…we went home”…

    That was exactly what my childhood was like, especially in the ENDLESS summertime.

    Thanks so much for that post….

  79. Rm,

    Thanks. These were my childhood memories also. Once, when I was young, My dad stuffed 11 of us in the back of a rag top jeep to search for a pond to play ice hockey on. It was SO much fun. Today, he would go to jail.

    And like you, summertime was when we left the house and didn’t return till the sun went down. No worries.

  80. oldsailor 81

    Sueq …………..Re; 1:57 PM
    SO MUCH FOR POLITICAL CORRECTNESS! HAR HAR

  81. oldsailor 81

    ………..Sadly all too many people have either forgotten the THIRTIES, DIDN’T GIVE A DAMN, OR DON’T EVEN KNOW THAT THE THIRTIES EVER HAPPENED……..but I can guarantee you that your PARENTS knew about the thirties……in STARK REALITY. I always admired Art Linkletter for his notions……one of which is “My family never really paid much attention to the depression,since our standard of life was as though there was ALWAYS a depression”. Art Godfrey, Jack Benny, Bob Hope, used to make jokes about living through the depression,but like Red Skelton their jokes usually had a strong moral aspect to them.

  82. WHAT YOU PERHAPS DON’T KNOW ABOUT SNOWDEN’S FORMER EMPLOYER, BOOZ ALLEN HAMILTON:

    Let’s take another trip down the rabbit hole, shall we? Hi Ho, Hi Ho, it’s off to work we go…….

    Lost in the Edward Snowden debate is a critical look at his former employer, the company doing the spying on Americans in the first place: Booz Allen Hamilton.

    Booz Allen Hamilton is a government contractor, with 99% of its revenue coming from the US government. Not only does it receive money from the NSA, but also the US Army, US Navy, US Air Force, US Marine Corps, Department of Defense, Department of Homeland Security, the FBI and … the IRS. In addition, Booz Allen is heavily connected to the CIA.

    Among the individuals involved in running the company of BOOZ ALLEN, we have:

    JAMES CLAPPER – current Director of National Intelligence (DNI), head of NSA, the man who lied to Congress about the fact that NSA is actively spying on Americans, is a former executive

    MIKE MCCONNELL – a current executive of the company, had Clapper’s job (DNI) during George W. Bush’s administration (keep it in the family, eh?) — he worked for Booz Allen before Bush, then worked for Bush, then back to Booz Allen after Bush

    JAMES WOOLSEY – former CIA Director, current executive (see Jan Helfeld’s interview of Mr. Woolsey where it becomes clear that Woolsey has no interest in discussing principles, only war)

    MELISSA HATHAWAY – former executive, also worked for McConnell during the Bush administration

    JAN BRZEZINSKI – former executive, son of ZBIGNIEW BRZEZINSKI, co-founder of the Trilateral Commission with David Rockefeller, central figure in the NWO crowd, and mastermind of Operation Cyclone

    DOV ZAKHEIM – this character is … unbelievable:

    1993 – His company, System Planning Corporation, had a subsidiary called Tridata Corporation, which was the company that “oversaw” the investigation of the 1993 WTC BOMBING

    2000 – Part of the neocon Project for a New American Century, he is co-author of “Rebuilding America’s Defenses,” in which he is credited with the infamous line, “… some catastrophic and catalyzing event – like a new Pearl Harbor.”

    2001 – He was appointed Comptroller of the Pentagon, in which $2.3 trillion promptly goes “missing”

    2001 – Attack on 9/11 occurs; some people are suspicious of his connections, since his company, SPC, in involved in flight systems capable of REMOTE controlling aircraft, and because he was the guy who leased 32 Boeing 767 aircraft to McDill Air Force Base (2 of the 9/11 aircraft were 767′s), and McDill is close to Elgin AFB, which was the location that was to be used if Operation NORTHWOODS had gone live

    2004 – Goes to work for Booz Allen Hamilton.

    2012 – Advisor on Middle East policy for Mitt Romney campaign (gee … ya think Romney would have gone to war in the Middle East???)

    Booz Allen Hamilton is owned by the CARLYLE GROUP.

    One of the big investors in the Carlyle Group was the BIN LADEN family in Saudi Arabia. Yeah … THAT Bin Laden family. And instrumental in being the “go between” for Carlyle/Bin Laden was a guy by the name of GEORGE H. W. BUSH. Maybe you’ve heard of him?

    The CEO of the Carlyle Group (remember, they OWN Booz Allen Hamilton) is FRANK CARLUCCI. Mr. Carlucci has quite a resume:

    NIXON Administration – Director of the Office for Economic Opportunity (the “War on Poverty” — and a great place to decide who gets government contracts)

    CARTER Administration – Deputy Director of the CIA

    REAGAN Administration – National Security Advisor and Secretary of Defense (Donald Rumsfeld is Carlucci’s protoge)

    He is or has been with the Project for a New American Century and a member of the Board of Trustees for the RAND Corporation, a CIA front that develops policies that the Military Industrial Complex then carries out.

    You want a NWO guy? Carlucci is your man. And CEO of Carlyle Group, owner of Booz Allen Hamilton, spying on YOU.

    At RAND, his specialty was Middle East policy. What do you know? That was also the specialty of Graham Fuller, CIA guy who was the father-in-law of Ruslan Tsarni, uncle of Tamarlan Tsarnev, suspected Boston bomber.

    Speaking of the Boston bombing and Tamarlan Tsarnev, he had a couple of trips to Russia that made the news. But what did not make the news (in America, but it did in Russia) is that he went there for “training” that was funded by the Jamestown Foundation. And what do you know? The Jamestown Foundation (CIA front) has among its past board members none other than Dick Cheney and Marcia Carlucci, wife of Frank Carlucci.

    Given all their connections and government contracts, here’s an interesting question:
    Booz Allen Hamilton has not only been involved in spying via the NSA, but they have also received no-bid contracts from the IRS. What do they know about the American people via the IRS?

    Now, one of the things you will start to see if you look around at some of the big corporations these days is that many of them are involved in what they call “corporate citizenship” or something similar. What this means at the surface level is they are being “good citizens” by donating to charity. But when you go beyond the surface, you will see something else going on.

    Booz Allen Hamilton donates money to the CLINTON Global Initiative. The CGI is a part of the Clinton Foundation (yeah, THAT Clinton).

    The Clinton Foundation has been implicated in bribery on an international level. Clinton gave himself a special little privilege while president wherein he exempted the William Jefferson Clinton Foundation from the normal rules of disclosure regarding publicly listing who its contributors were. It’s a secret foundation. And it has over $200 million in assets now. And is alleged to be used as a way to funnel black money from corrupt governments around the world for behind-the-scenes deals like special oil contracts, arms dealing, US government foreign aid deals, whatever.

    So folks, what you are not being told in the media about Edward Snowden’s former company is that it is not only spying on you, but it is probably checking out your tax returns, too, and also receiving some of your tax money in government contracts, which it then funnels to CIA-connected/Military Industrial Complex-connected/NWO-connected individuals and organizations.

    Something like this: Your tax money (taken from you by force) -> IRS -> Booz Allen Hamilton -> Clinton Foundation -> foreign bribes -> more contracts for the Military Industrial Complex -> more spending by foreign governments -> more foreign aid from the US government -> more US government spending -> more taxes needed -> more taxes from YOU.

    Oh … and they are also spying on you, too.

    But Edward Snowden … yeah HE is the bad guy here. Uh huh … move along … nothing to see here. He’s just the “courier”…or as we say on the street…”the bagboy”
    —————————————————————————————–

    Oh what wicked webs we weave…when first we begin to deceive…
    it’s kind of like a puzzle within a puzzle, within a puzzle, isn’t it?

  83. oldsailor 81

    ……..the days of the hayrides in the fall of the year, and carving a face into a pumpkin, for Halloween was something many of us relished doing. Today far too many look upon such holidays as DUMB, and think it teaches DESTRUCTIVE BEHAVIOR..

  84. oldsailor 81

    Sueq…………
    Leno’s observations are pretty much as it was. Some ate canned sardines in mustard sauce instead of tuna,but a .10cent can of sardines was a meal for a couple of people. A loaf of white bread was .15 cents as well, and a dozen of FRESH Jumbo free range eggs was .25 cents.

  85. oldsailor,

    I still love sardines in mustard, and tuna as well, along with crackers… Makes for a good lunch at work or at home. May not wish to kiss me, but still is good.

    Came in from pool side briefly, another refill and meeting with jack. Going to grill out some ribs this evening. Any dibs on drinks and food, name it.

    Bob, that means I’m in my speedo…..while grilling too…. 🙂

    I can’t stop Obama today, but I can sure enjoy the moments of freedom while I still have it! And Bob Segar, Lynyrd Skynyrd, Jimmy Buffet and Jack, sure pass the time away.

  86. oldsailor 81

    ……………How many people remember REGULAR Gasoline at .19 cents a gallon? What used to be called “COAL OIL” was about .12 cents a gallon. People used it in SPACE HEATERS. Others had a POT BELLY stove in the middle of the house in which they burned ground dry corn cobs. Most folks who lived in the city had COAL BINS in their basements,and used the coal in an old cast iron gravity furnace.

  87. oldsailor 81

    William………
    I personally like the Johnsonville Brats, washed down by a Miller LITE.

  88. oldsailor 81

    ………. but you are also right about BBQ ribs. Done right,they are top fare, along with a little Miller Lite. Top dollar in my book.

  89. OldSailor says, “Most folks who lived in the city had COAL BINS in their basements,and used the coal in an old cast iron gravity furnace.”
    *********************************
    OldSailor, that brought back memories of the old, seven-room house we lived in during the 30’s and 40’s. It had a very large coal furnace in the basement and we periodically got a delivery of the large coal dumped into a basement chute. That furnace was large enough for a grown man to stretch out in, and every morning Dad would see to it that it was loaded with coal. On very cold days in Ohio, Mom would go down during the day and shovel some more. We were always toasty warm as there were hot air registers in every room. Now O wants to destroy the operations of coal mining. What a …………..!

  90. oldsailor81,

    I am only pushing 60, but I remember price wars when I was a kid in Corpus Christi. With a gas station on every corner, I saw it get as low as 13.9. Not a bad price to put a tiger in your tank, eeh?

    You could have Sinclair dinosaurs, Diamond Shamrock leprechauns or you could trust your car to the man that wore the Texaco star.

    Back when I was a young man, I actually hung a couple of microwave dishes under the revolving red flying horse, Pegasus, on top of the Magnolia building in downtown Dallas.

    We also had Humble, Gulf, Conoco, Phillips, Shell, Fina and a long list of independents to choose from as well.

    We have come a long way from five gallons for a dollar to five dollars a gallon, wouldn’t you say?

  91. oldsailor 81 @ 3:21.

    Speaking of Art Linkletter, one of my very fondest memories was when my mom read to us from the book “Kids Say the Darndest Things”.

    It was bedtime, and she was laying next to me reading aloud. Suddenly she broke out laughing so hard she could hardly catch her breath. She actually fell on the floor. I don’t remember what she read…….it went right over my head, but I’m tempted to find that book and discover what it was.

    So many good memories from the past. Will our children and grandchildren look back with fondness as we did?

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